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Title: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: Mana Minori on February 02, 2018, 09:39:46 AM
Let's talk about that.

Now, each generation seems to have had its share of love/ Valentine themed ponies- Valenshy, Heart Throb, Truly, we even eventually got a Princess of love, Cadance. But Lovestruck- while being a g3 pony, made her debut in the FiM Gameloft game- eventually getting a blind back figure later.  Sadly, no other toys have been made of her, which might be why she's so overlooked by fans and collectors. Even so, Lovestruck is a pretty adorable pony with some pretty interesting backcard descriptions on her, to give her a glimmer of personality. She also appears to have been based/ influenced off of g3 pony, Always and Forever- who also has a white body, pink (and red) mane, and a bow and arrow symbol with hearts surrounding it. Not much difference, but Always and Forever has blue eyes and is an earth pony, while Lovestruck is a unicorn and has green eyes.

I whipped up a theory about this underappreciated pony some time ago, but I think still holds relevance: (source: https://www.hasbro.com/mylittlepony/en_US/2017/02/community-soapbox-20-glimmys-evil-story.html)

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Lovestruck: cupid, student, or softhearted soldier?
Though Lovestruck is a pony who only has an appearance in the MLP Gameloft app, her description actually gives her a lot of potential for appearances in the animated series. It reads as follows: "Lovestruck is a pony filled with the spirit of love! On Hearts and Hooves Day, she tries to fill everypony with love in their hearts"

With her cutie mark being a bow and arrow with hearts, and a color scheme that screams Hearts and Hooves Day, she could easily be pining for a position as Cadence's personal student, possibly using Twilight as a mediator. Or could have good intentions and try to get Rarity to return Spike's feelings. Or status quo can be flipped on its head, and Lovestruck instead tries to enroll in the Crystal Guard to achieve her dream to promote peaceful, loving tactics in the ranks of the Empire's military.

How can Lovestruck be of use, if given some screen time? Would she just be a pony for HaHD, a student for Cadance, or something more?

Do many people appreciate this little lovebug, Lovestruck?
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: LadyMoondancer on February 02, 2018, 09:45:17 AM
I had to google to find out what she looks like . . . She's very pretty indeed!  Looks like she is basically a renamed G3 Always & Forever (which I can understand because having an ampersand in the middle of a name is awkward.)  I like that they made her a unicorn.

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Pic from My Little Wiki (http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Lovestruck).

I do enjoy seeing G3 ponies in G4, I believe Waterfire was another one who had a blind bag toy.
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on February 02, 2018, 09:57:40 AM
I would love to see her get a regular toy, I wish Hasbro still made new ponies specifically for holidays!

I do enjoy seeing G3 ponies in G4, I believe Waterfire was another one who had a blind bag toy.

There's quite a few who have! Breezie has a blind bag toy too (she was changed to a pegasus).
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: Khoufu on February 02, 2018, 10:06:25 AM
I kind of want Blind Bag Waterfire, though idk if I like her as a unicorn.
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: Taffeta on February 02, 2018, 10:12:19 AM
I didn't know this G4 as I don',t really follow blind bags, but it's just another example of a pony who COULD have been made and COULD have been given a place in children's hearts, but wasn't, because hasbro are obsessed with the same six ponies. I find that sad, but at least she exists in blind bag form.

A&F was a valentine Target pony I think, so not global - I guess this way she gets a wider release as a blind bag??

I have seen some really pretty blind bag figures (I know the names of none of them) who would make amazing ponies. (And I still want a pony version of Adagio Dazzle and her sidekicks, but no luck so far).

Hasbro really need to do more with these kinds of characters.
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: Mana Minori on February 02, 2018, 10:20:36 AM
I didn't know this G4 as I don',t really follow blind bags, but it's just another example of a pony who COULD have been made and COULD have been given a place in children's hearts, but wasn't, because hasbro are obsessed with the same six ponies. I find that sad, but at least she exists in blind bag form.

A&F was a valentine Target pony I think, so not global - I guess this way she gets a wider release as a blind bag??

I have seen some really pretty blind bag figures (I know the names of none of them) who would make amazing ponies. (And I still want a pony version of Adagio Dazzle and her sidekicks, but no luck so far).

Hasbro really need to do more with these kinds of characters.
the oversaturation of mane 6 needs to stop. Too many ponies are out there that could be getting released in actual brushable form (or MORE brushables), but just aren't, because everything is mane 6 and Princesses. Some ponies don't even HAVE any merch! (Sassy Saddles, Starswirl, Mistmane, Chip Cutter, Tender Taps, Gabby the Griffon, Iron Will, Tirek, and the Diamond Dogs, to name a few)
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on February 02, 2018, 10:24:24 AM
There are plenty of G1 heart related ponies...
Snuzzle would be the original.

I stopped buying MLP G4blind bags, they just got to annoying, to much of the same, etc. If I had to choose at this point in if I'm buying a MLP blind bag or a Lego blind bag, am probably going for the lego one.
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on February 02, 2018, 10:27:23 AM
I didn't know this G4 as I don',t really follow blind bags, but it's just another example of a pony who COULD have been made and COULD have been given a place in children's hearts, but wasn't, because hasbro are obsessed with the same six ponies. I find that sad, but at least she exists in blind bag form.

A&F was a valentine Target pony I think, so not global - I guess this way she gets a wider release as a blind bag??

I have seen some really pretty blind bag figures (I know the names of none of them) who would make amazing ponies. (And I still want a pony version of Adagio Dazzle and her sidekicks, but no luck so far).

Hasbro really need to do more with these kinds of characters.
the oversaturation of mane 6 needs to stop. Too many ponies are out there that could be getting released in actual brushable form (or MORE brushables), but just aren't, because everything is mane 6 and Princesses. Some ponies don't even HAVE any merch! (Sassy Saddles, Starswirl, Mistmane, Chip Cutter, Tender Taps, Gabby the Griffon, Iron Will, Tirek, and the Diamond Dogs, to name a few)

Well they did release a bunch of non MLP characters from the movie with those action figure sets they are doing...and sorry I don't remember what the heck they are calling the 'action figures'. I refuse to buy that stuff, it's not MLP to me, regardless of if hasbro is making it etc.

I don't want Diamond Dogs, that would honestly be the last thing I'd ever buy. Tirek, no thanks. I just don't want any of that other junk, not interested, nope.
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 02, 2018, 10:30:13 AM
She's cute but I prefer her predecessor Always and Forever, as well as Wish-I-May and Wish-I-Might. I hardly ever do blindbags. I never cared for Truly, Heartthrob or Cadance.
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: Mana Minori on February 02, 2018, 10:49:19 AM
I didn't know this G4 as I don',t really follow blind bags, but it's just another example of a pony who COULD have been made and COULD have been given a place in children's hearts, but wasn't, because hasbro are obsessed with the same six ponies. I find that sad, but at least she exists in blind bag form.

A&F was a valentine Target pony I think, so not global - I guess this way she gets a wider release as a blind bag??

I have seen some really pretty blind bag figures (I know the names of none of them) who would make amazing ponies. (And I still want a pony version of Adagio Dazzle and her sidekicks, but no luck so far).

Hasbro really need to do more with these kinds of characters.
the oversaturation of mane 6 needs to stop. Too many ponies are out there that could be getting released in actual brushable form (or MORE brushables), but just aren't, because everything is mane 6 and Princesses. Some ponies don't even HAVE any merch! (Sassy Saddles, Starswirl, Mistmane, Chip Cutter, Tender Taps, Gabby the Griffon, Iron Will, Tirek, and the Diamond Dogs, to name a few)

Well they did release a bunch of non MLP characters from the movie with those action figure sets they are doing...and sorry I don't remember what the heck they are calling the 'action figures'. I refuse to buy that stuff, it's not MLP to me, regardless of if hasbro is making it etc.

I don't want Diamond Dogs, that would honestly be the last thing I'd ever buy. Tirek, no thanks. I just don't want any of that other junk, not interested, nope.
Guardians of Harmony? why aren't them MLP to you? Hasbro has put out things that aren't pony brushables, before, like the porcelain figures back in g1. Are they MLP, in spite of not having brushable hair?

Gimme my brushable Tirek, please. XD
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: Bebopgroove on February 02, 2018, 10:53:51 AM
I'll never understand why Hasbro only released about 5 different G3 unicorns.. One of my biggest gripes with the G3 line..
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: Taffeta on February 02, 2018, 11:02:53 AM

Guardians of Harmony? why aren't them MLP to you? Hasbro has put out things that aren't pony brushables, before, like the porcelain figures back in g1. Are they MLP, in spite of not having brushable hair?

Gimme my brushable Tirek, please. XD

It's a personal decision as to whether something is or isn't a pony in the context of their collection.

I don't buy GOH either. It doesn't bother me that it's there, but I don't count them as ponies. They're pony merchandise to me. So are ceramics. Ponies are brushables. That's because I'm a G1 person (and so is Unicorn) and G1 was basically about brushables. Nothing wrong with that. It's just personal preference, which should be respected IMO.

I also don't care about having toys of the other characters in the show in any generation because I basically don't like the show much in any generation ;) It's fine, it's just not the be all and end all of MLP to me. I wouldn't really want any Tirek, brushable or otherwise. I don't really understand the FIM mindset of seeing everything through the lens of what's in the animation. Those characters were irrelevant to my childhood as I didn't see most of the G1 animation until I was about 14 - and I genuinely don't mind. But I probably wouldn't want dolls of the Weather Witch or Wizard Wantall either, from the comics...I don't even like Megan all that much. Dragons and pony attendants/friends I'm ok with...but that's I guess where I personally draw the line.
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on February 02, 2018, 12:03:03 PM

 Guardians of Harmony? why aren't them MLP to you? Hasbro has put out things that aren't pony brushables, before, like the porcelain figures back in g1. Are they MLP, in spite of not having brushable hair?

Gimme my brushable Tirek, please. XD

I refuse to buy that stuff, it's not MLP to me, regardless of if hasbro is making it etc.

I made some highlighs of my comment to answer your question.

and add what Taff said to further explain:


It's a personal decision as to whether something is or isn't a pony in the context of their collection.
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: Mana Minori on February 02, 2018, 03:26:58 PM

Guardians of Harmony? why aren't them MLP to you? Hasbro has put out things that aren't pony brushables, before, like the porcelain figures back in g1. Are they MLP, in spite of not having brushable hair?

Gimme my brushable Tirek, please. XD

It's a personal decision as to whether something is or isn't a pony in the context of their collection.

I don't buy GOH either. It doesn't bother me that it's there, but I don't count them as ponies. They're pony merchandise to me. So are ceramics. Ponies are brushables. That's because I'm a G1 person (and so is Unicorn) and G1 was basically about brushables. Nothing wrong with that. It's just personal preference, which should be respected IMO.

I also don't care about having toys of the other characters in the show in any generation because I basically don't like the show much in any generation ;) It's fine, it's just not the be all and end all of MLP to me. I wouldn't really want any Tirek, brushable or otherwise. I don't really understand the FIM mindset of seeing everything through the lens of what's in the animation. Those characters were irrelevant to my childhood as I didn't see most of the G1 animation until I was about 14 - and I genuinely don't mind. But I probably wouldn't want dolls of the Weather Witch or Wizard Wantall either, from the comics...I don't even like Megan all that much. Dragons and pony attendants/friends I'm ok with...but that's I guess where I personally draw the line.
I asked the question because I wanted to know. Not because I was putting down your opinion, nor is anything wrong with it. How can I know what it is, if I don't ask? We're not hivemind

what I was saying was that there should be more to the world than just ponies. g1 had bushwoolies, and dragons in the toyline, but all the races that make up g4 seem to be just ponies in the toyline. Barely any griffons or other species. Animation or not, it adds variety to the imagination, for the ponies to have conflict with others outside of themselves.
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: Mana Minori on February 02, 2018, 03:32:06 PM
She's cute but I prefer her predecessor Always and Forever, as well as Wish-I-May and Wish-I-Might. I hardly ever do blindbags. I never cared for Truly, Heartthrob or Cadance.
perhaps Lovestruck is just Always' mini Me? A failed clone attempt? Sisters separated at birth? XD 
yeah, blinds aren't my thing, either (too frustrating. Even the FUNKO Mystery Mini's)

The Wish twins I still think of as celestials, even though they're Valentine ponies. Must be that darn nursery rhyme about wishing on stars.
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: Taffeta on February 02, 2018, 04:30:23 PM
First point - your comments were taken as derisive both by Unicorn and by myself, so clearly you could have phrased your question better. It definitely sounded to me like you were making fun of Uni because she doesn't personally like GOH. That's not cool. If you didn't mean it that way, maybe making the joke about a Tirek brushable at the end wasn't the way to go.

Onto the other point - G4 has several separate toy incarnations which are very much tied to one source material, the show. Other generations didn't do that. If you're looking at MLP in context of just G4, then all the different aspects that connect to FIM are relevant. GOH and Blind bags and such are obviously included in that context. But you began this thread by connecting Lovestruck to G3 Always and Forever and the connecting factor between all the generations of MLP is the brushable. It's personal preference what you include and what you don't, but the core of the MLP line since 1982 is a fantasy coloured equine with brushable hair.

The big problem with G4's toyline is the oversaturation of the mane 6 and the pushing out of other characters to the blind bags and the GOH, perhaps even Equestria Girls as well to some extent. I would really love to see Adagio as a brushable but I don't suppose it will ever happen.

In terms of other species, G1 has probably as wide a cast of supporting characters that could have been produced in the 1980s as G4 has now. The fact they aren't maybe shows the emphasis being on the toy and imaginative play into which the various storylines feed, rather than the storyline trying to enforce creative play. You'd think that we might have had the Moochick, or the witches from the movie. Even smooze of some kind perhaps...we had boglins in the eighties, and other weird stuff, so why not? But it didn't happen. I think it does come down to the fact the G1 toy line was really diverse in it's species. And yeah, there were attendants, but they were connected to ponies. Other than the pony friends (which in G4 your equivalent is probably Zecora) there's not much deviation into other creatures and there's very little into human characters as well (despite endless Megan releases). I don't really think it is that important to release those characters. They only become relevant if you're a collector wanting to display scenes from the animation, or a kid who wants to play a particular episode. I don't know how many kids do that, so maybe it's more of a collector concern? I don't know?
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: Mana Minori on February 02, 2018, 05:38:25 PM
First point - your comments were taken as derisive both by Unicorn and by myself, so clearly you could have phrased your question better. It definitely sounded to me like you were making fun of Uni because she doesn't personally like GOH. That's not cool. If you didn't mean it that way, maybe making the joke about a Tirek brushable at the end wasn't the way to go.

Onto the other point - G4 has several separate toy incarnations which are very much tied to one source material, the show. Other generations didn't do that. If you're looking at MLP in context of just G4, then all the different aspects that connect to FIM are relevant. GOH and Blind bags and such are obviously included in that context. But you began this thread by connecting Lovestruck to G3 Always and Forever and the connecting factor between all the generations of MLP is the brushable. It's personal preference what you include and what you don't, but the core of the MLP line since 1982 is a fantasy coloured equine with brushable hair.

The big problem with G4's toyline is the oversaturation of the mane 6 and the pushing out of other characters to the blind bags and the GOH, perhaps even Equestria Girls as well to some extent. I would really love to see Adagio as a brushable but I don't suppose it will ever happen.

In terms of other species, G1 has probably as wide a cast of supporting characters that could have been produced in the 1980s as G4 has now. The fact they aren't maybe shows the emphasis being on the toy and imaginative play into which the various storylines feed, rather than the storyline trying to enforce creative play. You'd think that we might have had the Moochick, or the witches from the movie. Even smooze of some kind perhaps...we had boglins in the eighties, and other weird stuff, so why not? But it didn't happen. I think it does come down to the fact the G1 toy line was really diverse in it's species. And yeah, there were attendants, but they were connected to ponies. Other than the pony friends (which in G4 your equivalent is probably Zecora) there's not much deviation into other creatures and there's very little into human characters as well (despite endless Megan releases). I don't really think it is that important to release those characters. They only become relevant if you're a collector wanting to display scenes from the animation, or a kid who wants to play a particular episode. I don't know how many kids do that, so maybe it's more of a collector concern? I don't know?
I apologize. I wasn't making fun of anyone. I'm just not eloquent in wording what I want to say, both online and off. So that's my bad. I'm sorry if it came across as that.

as you said, I'm aware that the connecting central of MLP is the brushable ponies, and I've followed the franchise long enough to know that. Even with MPP. That's the whole schtick. My connection with Lovestruck to A&F was aesthetics only. Color pallet, markings, limbs, and whatnot. And yes, it also upset me, as I said before, that the other ponies get pushed to blinds and the mane 6 get focused on in brushables, when every gen had had a variety of brushables.
Title: Re: Lovestruck is a pony who doesn't really get much love
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 02, 2018, 06:17:33 PM
She's cute but I prefer her predecessor Always and Forever, as well as Wish-I-May and Wish-I-Might. I hardly ever do blindbags. I never cared for Truly, Heartthrob or Cadance.
perhaps Lovestruck is just Always' mini Me? A failed clone attempt? Sisters separated at birth? XD 
yeah, blinds aren't my thing, either (too frustrating. Even the FUNKO Mystery Mini's)

The Wish twins I still think of as celestials, even though they're Valentine ponies. Must be that darn nursery rhyme about wishing on stars.

That's really cute about May and Might!

Yes Lovestruck must be. AaF's adorably evil mini-minion! :silly: It makes perfect sense.
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