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So Cherries Jubilee and the Wiki.
Taffeta:
Is there anyone around at the moment with the ability to edit the Wiki?
Noticed this this morning.
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Cherries_Jubilee#European_Cherries_Jubilee
(Note = this post is about versions made in HK, predominately. Italy and Spain etc are a whole other rabbithole, LOL)
There's still some confusion about how CJ was sold in the UK and Europe, and the above Wiki description for the European CJ is...not right. So just to clear things up a bit, here's my random geek ted talk on Cherries Jubilee, because she's awesome, and we should talk about her more.
And also I hope someone will fix the above linked information :P
So, Cherries Jubilee in Europe and the UK...
#1
"Groom and Style" Cherries Jubilee.
This pony is the same as the US release from year three.
The Groom and Style moniker comes from Hasbro's own files, probably because the set introduced curly hair over here :)
This Cherries Jubilee was sold in 1985, and packaged like this:
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This set had Bow Tie and Applejack in the collector pose. Bow Tie had curls.
In some places in Europe this set was sold with the ponies made in other places eg Italy, but on the same card. This set was also sold like this in some places in Europe, and also on US style card in places in Europe.
#2
1986 Cherries Jubilee (Second Edition, or UK Cherries Jubilee)
This pony has straight hair, normally straight like Posey or Tootsie.
She has a darker symbol.
She was sold in 1986, like this:
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This set had Posey with dark tulips, as well as Gypsy, Hopscotch, Snowflake and Honeycomb.
This Cherries Jubilee was sold in the UK and any country that also had Gypsy and Honeycomb in this set.
...Up to this point the Wiki is correct. However...
#3
European Cherries Jubilee, (circa 1986)
Has curly hair and a dark symbol. This is she:
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She was NOT sold in the UK. She was NOT a groom and style pony. She was NOT sold in the set with Bow Tie and AJ.
She WAS sold in continental Europe, in countries where they had HK versions of this set in 1986 (the Netherlands is one such place).
She was sold in a set with Hopscotch, Snowflake, WHITE TOOTSIE (Hong Kong), Posey (dark symbols) and Lickety Split (yes, a different version :D Goodie).
I don't have her backcard, but this is the set she belongs in.
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In some countries this same set was sold with ponies made in Spain or Italy.
In some places (eg Netherlands) this set were sold on the first release UK or US card from 1985, which did not picture the c correct ponies on front or back.
So, in summary.
Groom and Style CJ - sold in 1985, same as US version, in set with CP Bow Tie and AJ
UK CJ - straight hair, in Gypsy and Honeycomb's set, dark symbols.
European CJ - curly hair, dark symbols, in white Tootsie's set.
...If someone could fix the CJ page to reflect this, I would be so grateful.
Also, thank you for coming to my CJ Ted Talk.
Bonus:
The Wikipedia doesn't actually include European Lickety Split, the one listed is the regular groom and style version on the European card (which was sold in the US, in the UK, in Europe, and all over).
The text is correct as far as that goes, but this...
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is European (second edition) Lickety Split...;)
tailrustedtealeaf:
I've updated the European CJ section to hopefully reflect this information, I'll make a note to check on the LS page and update that as well...let me know if there's any errors that remain!
Taffeta:
TRTL, thank you for doing that :D
I wouldn't say incorrectly assigned them to the Groom & Style set as that was a UK only moniker rather than something used in Europe. But otherwise it looks great now :D
Groom & Style was just the name used in the UK by Hasbro to refer to the year 3 set. We had the CP AJ and Bow Tie at the same time the US had curly haired shy pose Bow Tie and AJ. That's the main difference. Europe also had the CP AJ and Bow Tie in this set.
The UK only had the shy pose/straight haired Bow Tie and AJ in the set with Bubbles and Seashell.
While we're being confusing, there are also things like this, but I honestly have no idea how they happened or what other ponies were sold in the set/when as all the names are removed and Bow Tie is not pictured.
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Isn't Europe great :D
tailrustedtealeaf:
Got it! I just removed that part of the sentence. Oh, Europe, your pony releases really are somethin'....
BabyTaffeta:
That is interesting! I am quite sure my childhood Italian Cherries Jubilee came in the same set like Bow Tie and Applejack in the shy pose. These were my first ponies and they were bought in the same store at the same time. Does this make sense?
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