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Title: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: RoseNoire on November 15, 2017, 01:50:40 AM
Hi everyone !

I'm fairly new to this community and not very experimented. So, by reading all your abbreviations and not getting them, I had the idea to make a topic explaining all of them for everyone. In order to do that, I need your contribution and your expertise. I'll edit this topic to add them. =)

So, here's...

The list

* PC = Price Check
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: okamigirl64 on November 15, 2017, 04:35:54 AM
http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,283482.0.html
There’s a list of them under the arena tutorial tab. 😊
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: RoseNoire on November 15, 2017, 04:38:17 AM
Oh, okay, nevermind then.  :lol:
Let this topic sink then.
Let it sink, let it sink.  :whistle:
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: northstar3184 on November 15, 2017, 08:35:25 PM
One to add:

GITD = Glow in the Dark
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Lady.Arachnia on November 16, 2017, 12:52:30 AM
EveryPony = EveryOne!!! I think this is really an unique *thing*  here on the Arena! X
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on November 16, 2017, 04:29:42 AM
EveryPony = EveryOne!!! I think this is really an unique *thing*  here on the Arena! X
I'd likely agree except I think FiM uses this too so there is a lot of fans outside of the arena who likely do so as well XD
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Taffeta on November 16, 2017, 06:10:47 AM
EveryPony = EveryOne!!! I think this is really an unique *thing*  here on the Arena! X

It's not, it's a FIM term. The Arena is for all generation fans, and most older generation fans don't use FIM terminology so this isn't an Arena term, it's an FIM one.

Speaking of FIM terms, EQG is missing from the Arena list (Equestria Girls).
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 16, 2017, 06:43:08 AM
I was gonna contribute but then I saw the link posted-Whoops!
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Lady.Arachnia on November 16, 2017, 07:31:55 AM
Owhmy......I am totally not into the FiM *thing*.... :redface:
I do like some of the G4 Ponies though (The new Sea Ponies YAY!!!)... :lovey:

But really.... I can't  stand those high pitched voices and *over the top* cartoons they make today....Not only the MLP but every cartoon these days.....I already have ADD...5 minutes Cartoon Network and I need more Ritalin!!! ;-)
I'm an old grumpy thing from 1978....I'm all about the G1 cartoons!!!  :relaxed: :relaxed:
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 17, 2017, 08:45:25 AM
I like everypony, I just wish people (bronies, most likely) would realise it's supposed to be an alternative for everyone/everybody and not a replacement for them.  Meaning that it's not a mistake if a G4 pony doesn't say it, and (for hater-bronies) it is not proof of pre-G4's inferiority if a pre-G4 pony doesn't say it (these are only the really bad hater-bronies who actively look for things to hate about pre-G4 rather than actually not liking it for opinion reasons).
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Lady.Arachnia on November 19, 2017, 01:11:05 AM
I think it is just a cute thing to use EveryPony like here on the forums!
Not only to adress to other people here....but that really Every Pony (G1/G2/G3/G3.5/G4 AND Fakies!) is Welcome here!!!
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 19, 2017, 09:55:33 AM
I don't. I think its annoying.
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Carrehz on November 19, 2017, 10:20:48 AM
I don't. I think its annoying.

-nodnod- Same here.
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Taffeta on November 20, 2017, 04:34:02 AM
I don't. I think its annoying.

Agreed. I find it silly and when people use it I find it hard to take them seriously :/ but its not as offensive to me as brony, pegasister or cutie mark when applied to G1 collecting. So I dislike it but I can tolerate it, I just twitch when I see it. Whereas anyone talking about G1 symbols as cutie marks is a whole other rage-event in my little geekish brain. ;)
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 20, 2017, 06:58:20 AM
I guess it all just depends on how we perceive each term, and if it means something to us.  Like I say, I like "everypony" as long as people aren't so pedantic about it (with what I mentioned earlier) - I only say it to describe ponies though, not the fans, but am okay with those who do, and I love the term cutie mark, as some of you already know, and have a nostalgic attachment to it, as well as the term brony. 

However, at the same time, I realise that a lot of you may have nostalgic attachments to the terms that mean something to you in someway, such as symbol instead of cutie mark.  I try to respect that as best I can, and will usually use "symbol" for G1 ponies, unless I am specifically writing something were G3 or G4 terminologies apply (e.g. my fanseries is set in Equestria, so even the G1 ponies have cutie marks there, but I try to remember to use symbol everywhere else).

So yeah, I think how each term sounds depends on how much it means to you, it doesn't even have to be a nostalgia thing (although it is to me, for the most part), but simply if it means something to you or whatever.  I am sure a lot of you have more sentimental or nostalgic attachments to G1 as that's where a lot of you started, but even those who didn't could have nostalgia or sentiment for the terms, and I totally understand that, as I am nostalgic for the G4 terms I mentioned, like I said.
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Taffeta on November 20, 2017, 07:06:00 AM
Personally I have no issue with those terms when correctly applied to the generation(s) that spawned them, I just have a really violent hatred of anachronism. I hate terms being backdated to apply to generations that predate those terms as it is a symptom of the world seeing the original My Little Pony through the lens of FIM. Logically they are all separate generations with their own key features that each should be recognised for and respected for...and for that reason I like terms to be used for the right generation they apply to. So Cutie Mark applies from G3 but is not appropriate to me for anything before that.

I don't like the idea that all generations before G4 are proto-G4 leading up to G4 and the use of terminology is part of that.

Symbol isn't really a nostalgic term - I don't suppose for anyone. Hasbro's term was rump design or rump marking, but collectors defined symbol in the middle/late 1990s because it was a more generic term. There are people who don't use or like it though and that's fine. There isn't an official term for a G1 marking but then again the term Cutie Mark happened in G3. Because 'cutie marks' (especially in G4) have special and specific connitations, backdating the term is anachronistic. (That's even if you don't think it's a silly term, which some people do and some don't).

I'm a historian...I guess that's how I think about things. I have similar twitches with people calling the Japanese warriors I study 'samurai' when the western concept of what a 'samurai' is dates from much later and when the term has different connitations. For me it's a matter of historical integrity. You shouldn't look at generations with hindsight of other later generations but for themselves in all their glory and so preserving the right terms for the right generations allows us to do that properly without disrespecting any generation.

Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 20, 2017, 07:13:49 AM
Well, you could acknowledge the thing that inspired them by calling them brands, but I don't think anyone wants to do that. I know I don't.

I don't really care for applying G4 terminology to everything or using G4-isms in speech. For me it plays too much into bronies' idea that G4 is the only worthwhile generation and their egotistical delusion that MLP fandom belongs to them.
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Jennifer2004 on November 20, 2017, 08:59:08 AM
I think it is just a cute thing to use EveryPony like here on the forums!
Not only to address to other people here....but that really Every Pony (G1/G2/G3/G3.5/G4 AND Fakies!) is Welcome here!!!

I have always thought the same as you say above Lady Arachnia.

I honestly didn't realize it offended people. Gotta say I definitely did not expect that.

~Jennifer
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 20, 2017, 10:38:19 AM
@taffeta and @zeldatheswordsman I want to :grouphug: you both.
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: northstar3184 on November 20, 2017, 05:26:54 PM
I don't. I think its annoying.

Agreed. I find it silly and when people use it I find it hard to take them seriously :/ but its not as offensive to me as brony, pegasister or cutie mark when applied to G1 collecting. So I dislike it but I can tolerate it, I just twitch when I see it. Whereas anyone talking about G1 symbols as cutie marks is a whole other rage-event in my little geekish brain. ;)

With the term "brony", I hate when I hear it applied to just any male MLP fan. I've been a fan of MLP since the 1980s, long before the brony subgroup formed.
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Sunset on November 20, 2017, 05:58:34 PM
I don't find "every pony" offensive per say.  I just feel like the use of the term suffers from over use.  Like with the Smurfs where every other word is.... Smurf-ified.  Cute on occasion, increasingly annoying when heard constantly.  I mean, it's cute when they pony-fie words on the show if it's clever or makes sense because they are ponies and thus don't have human features (like swapping "hands" for "hooves".)  But "everybody" and "everyone" and various other similar words should be perfectly acceptable in FiM cause those words are not human exclusive.  Plus there are a ton of non-pony species populating the FiM world.
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on November 20, 2017, 10:41:53 PM
I don't. I think its annoying.

Agreed. I find it silly and when people use it I find it hard to take them seriously :/ but its not as offensive to me as brony, pegasister or cutie mark when applied to G1 collecting. So I dislike it but I can tolerate it, I just twitch when I see it. Whereas anyone talking about G1 symbols as cutie marks is a whole other rage-event in my little geekish brain. ;)

All of this.  'Everypony' makes me cringe, and assume the speaker isn't a legally old enough to drive.  I wouldn't call G4's markings 'symbols' anymore than I find it appropriate to call G1's 'cutie marks'.  Different gen, different terminology.  Same with shoehorning all MLP fans into the 'brony' label whether they want it or not.    :(
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Carrehz on November 21, 2017, 07:09:34 AM
I don't find "everypony" *offensive* per se, I just find it extremely irritating. (Plus it doesn't even really make sense, if you think about it.. I mean, we don't say "everyhuman", after all. What's wrong w/ "everyone" or "everybody"? Ponies have bodies! And wrt it being used outside of the show.. I'm not a pony, I don't want to be called one :p) Same w/ the other pony versions of normal terms, sometimes it works but most of the time it just makes me cringe. Like Sunset said, it works when used sparingly, but apart from that.. @_@;

I don't like the idea that all generations before G4 are proto-G4 leading up to G4 and the use of terminology is part of that.

:iconclap:
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on November 21, 2017, 08:41:17 AM
I hate anything G4 with a passion, so needless to say I can't stand the terms either. Especially when used on anything G1. -_-

On a different note: I always thought "cutie marks" were the hearts on the hooves of G3 ponies? I see it being used everywhere as a synonym for symbol now, but for some reason I seem to recall the hoof hearts were actually called cutie marks. This must have been around 2008, 2009. Anybody who can confirm/debunk this?
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: RoseNoire on November 21, 2017, 09:00:38 AM
Oh, well, I would have never guessed such simple words could upset some people here. Sure, I wasn't aware "cutie mark" was only used after G3 but, come on, they are just ponyfan vocabulary. At least everyone understands each other even though "Symbol" is self-explanatory enough. Maybe you're taking it a bit too seriously with your idea of anachronism. I never though of that, this idea just flew over my head.  :lol: I don't see the point in feeling anger or even hatred for some wording. Anyone using "everypony" or "cuttie mark" for G2/1 never meant to upset you, they are just using their terminologies.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: The many terms and abbreviations of the Arena [1 so far]
Post by: Mirnyj on November 21, 2017, 09:18:13 AM
Here at the Arena we do appreciate every generation and we do believe that fans of all generations can co-exist in peace and learn from each other. I'm locking this one now.
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