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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: CarolSpain on March 08, 2016, 09:40:51 AM
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I know there are a lot of pots talking about the consequences of using acne cream on ponies, with pictures, but I'm not able to find them.
Could anyone help me?
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There's a thread here about a french bowtie that had acne cream put on her, with some pictures of the damage. (http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,370556.0.html) I saw some pictures of a seashell, too, but I can't find them. Hope this helps somewhat :)
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http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,356537.msg1237859.html#msg1237859 (http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,356537.msg1237859.html#msg1237859)
This is where I shared my pony.
We know not every pony will end up with big faded areas.
I know people have had success using this method on some ponies in very specific situations (mostly on yellow). but it's too easy to forgot which ponies where treated, so they are sold without this information disclosed. And sadly- this is one big reason I started avoiding buying from most collectors for the collector prices. Save a couple of people whom I know purchase carefully, keep logs and sell items with the history disclosed.
Some collectors do keep ponies in totes touching one another, and if they happen to have the wrong colour pony touching one with residues that didn't know were treated their good pony could suffer a similar result. WJ started with a much smaller faded patch. she's been stable like this for years. I have finally thought of a way to resell her honestly though as the stain could possibly be re tinted with a method mod barbie collectors use whose dolls were faded from these products. I'll have to etch RZ/AC by her maker marks before hand too, to be sure (if my info is lost by the next owner) each owner knows at least something was done to her after that.
*edit to add*
I'll add more..... When discovered it was thought of as a miracle cure- I thought we hit the jackpot as collectors some of the fixes were so impressive- this was before all the horror stories started showing up. :( so don't try it based on old, old threads. I feel guilty about cheering this fix on based on testimonials at the time, and with my bait successes.
I finally trashed my small box of acne/zit experiments stored together when I thought we had to move last year, testing acne cream and remove-zit side by side- so acne cream isn't always the kiss of death, some still looked perfectly fine from about 2005. but I still have the written work somewhere of detailing what worked and what didn't removing marks. needed too much caution and finesse to not accidentally get it anywhere you didn't want, remove every trace of residue, not leave it on too long etc. very hit and miss. I was super careful about removing residue for the success ones. Long long term I don't know what it does and you had to be so very careful and meticulous with the stuff to make sure there's hopefully nothing left of it. (I think it stays in the plastic though. :( )
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Do not do it! It was my French bowtie :(
Here is another post I saw this morning with some acne crème results. I'm sure my bowtie would have looked like this over time:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCsRVBomODhjmOE5bOSUQgIBOVeUy-XYKETgUM0/?taken-by=millydove
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCsRwrSGOETQlfmV8smOIUfzPrSEcYxKr_bFug0/?taken-by=millydove
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Thanks for your answers.
Do not do it! It was my French bowtie :(
Here is another post I saw this morning with some acne crème results. I'm sure my bowtie would have looked like this over time:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCsRVBomODhjmOE5bOSUQgIBOVeUy-XYKETgUM0/?taken-by=millydove
https://www.instagram.com/p/BCsRwrSGOETQlfmV8smOIUfzPrSEcYxKr_bFug0/?taken-by=millydove
I cannot see the pictures :-(
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Nooo to acne crème here. I have a Tuneful that has a white underside and it has slowly spread to random spots on her body. It wasn't done by me, previous owner must have tried it on some pen marks on her. Sorry no pics Photobucket is blocked here...
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So sad seeing these pictures. I had a Powder once that that happened to. I used acne cream on her not knowing the true damage. I think I made her into a custom pony.
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Me too, I once had a pony who had been a victim of remove zit -_- Was fine in the pics, then the patches showed up while she was in transit to me. I was devastated when I opened up my parcel. She was a blue pony too. Never, ever use those acne creams :nope:
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I agree it is way too harsh an intervention :(
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I'm glad I was too lazy to try this method back when it was all the rage.
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I'm glad I was too lazy to try this method back when it was all the rage.
I only started collecting a few years ago so luckily it was already a well known problem! Phew!
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I think it depends on the color of the pony
Here's a site with the info, go to the Creams section: http://www.mlppreservationproject.com/body.html#StainRemoval
It says you can use it on yellow and orange ponies and sometimes pink and white depending on the pony itself, but avoid on green, blue, or purple ones
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Personally I'd never use it on any pony, regardless of color.
The potential risks are just too high - it leaves behind active chemicals that work for years, if not decades, and the danger of cross-contamination through physical contact is very real. Not when we have sunfading which is far safer and doesn't pose the risk of being passed on to another pony by proximity.
While it seems 'safe' (and I use that term very loosely) for certain colors right now, that doesn't mean it actually is - it might just be that it'll take longer for the damage to be obvious with those colors.
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Personally I'd never use it on any pony, regardless of color.
The potential risks are just too high - it leaves behind active chemicals that work for years, if not decades, and the danger of cross-contamination through physical contact is very real. Not when we have sunfading which is far safer and doesn't pose the risk of being passed on to another pony by proximity.
While it seems 'safe' (and I use that term very loosely) for certain colors right now, that doesn't mean it actually is - it might just be that it'll take longer for the damage to be obvious with those colors.
I totally get what you mean and I understand but that is not necessarily true imo. A few dolls and toys I used acne cream on several years ago are still fine today, no after-effects after the stain removal, and it did not cross-contaminate either because some were stored in a bag full of other toys for a long time, and none of the other toys with them were affected.
Sunfading isn't always safe either, one doll I decided to sunfade and covered the rest of her w/ tin foil instead of using the cream method (since she was blue) ended up yellowing on the spots I tried to sunfade instead of the stains getting removed, ie it just made her staining worse. And even if you cover the non-sunfading parts, the heat from the sun can still affect the whole toy, which can cause discoloration in the plastic.
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Personally I'd never use it on any pony, regardless of color.
The potential risks are just too high - it leaves behind active chemicals that work for years, if not decades, and the danger of cross-contamination through physical contact is very real. Not when we have sunfading which is far safer and doesn't pose the risk of being passed on to another pony by proximity.
While it seems 'safe' (and I use that term very loosely) for certain colors right now, that doesn't mean it actually is - it might just be that it'll take longer for the damage to be obvious with those colors.
I totally get what you mean and I understand but that is not necessarily true imo. A few dolls and toys I used acne cream on several years ago are still fine today, no after-effects after the stain removal, and it did not cross-contaminate either because some were stored in a bag full of other toys for a long time, and none of the other toys with them were affected.
Sunfading isn't always safe either, one doll I decided to sunfade and covered the rest of her w/ tin foil instead of using the cream method (since she was blue) ended up yellowing on the spots I tried to sunfade instead of the stains getting removed, ie it just made her staining worse. And even if you cover the non-sunfading parts, the heat from the sun can still affect the whole toy, which can cause discoloration in the plastic.
Personally I'd never use it on any pony, regardless of color.
The potential risks are just too high - it leaves behind active chemicals that work for years, if not decades, and the danger of cross-contamination through physical contact is very real. Not when we have sunfading which is far safer and doesn't pose the risk of being passed on to another pony by proximity.
While it seems 'safe' (and I use that term very loosely) for certain colors right now, that doesn't mean it actually is - it might just be that it'll take longer for the damage to be obvious with those colors.
I totally get what you mean and I understand but that is not necessarily true imo. A few dolls and toys I used acne cream on several years ago are still fine today, no after-effects after the stain removal, and it did not cross-contaminate either because some were stored in a bag full of other toys for a long time, and none of the other toys with them were affected.
Sunfading isn't always safe either, one doll I decided to sunfade and covered the rest of her w/ tin foil instead of using the cream method (since she was blue) ended up yellowing on the spots I tried to sunfade instead of the stains getting removed, ie it just made her staining worse. And even if you cover the non-sunfading parts, the heat from the sun can still affect the whole toy, which can cause discoloration in the plastic.
This will likely not make sense but I'll try anyway,
I did have "success" with baits, that little box was mostly fine. all the ones I was careful with anyway. but- it's had enough pitfalls in the community it's not seen as a miracle anymore, rather something most of us want to avoid in our collections. Sadly I do not have a lab (that would be awesome!) to see if this stuff is really still working years later or not.
an analogy.
In Canada In the 1970's a type of housing insulation was new, thought of as amazing- UFFI. People got credit to upgrade their homes. Gas was pricey, they were going through an energy/cost crisis at the time. Lots of energy upgrades were done as costs were way up. So UFFI calibrated and done correctly, it was fine (science!). But, many houses were not. the stuff gave off formaldehyde gas if the process wasn't done perfectly. and now, the stuff is inert and no longer throwing off formaldehyde gas 40+ years later anyway. Ontario folk still have to sign disclosures stating they do not have it in their home when you sell- if it's found in a house you sold, if you knew it was there present, or even past tense -removed and you didn't say huge legal trouble.... usually one or two parties losing everything. the house, even though it's actually fine now, is pretty much un-sellable. It's not the current safety of 40+ YO UFFI, rather public perception of UFFI. that makes these houses.... worthless.
After getting a messed up pony, and seeing what has happened to others. I do not want to buy another BP/RZ pony. if someone said "I used such and such cream to fade pen", I skip that pony. If I were to find one and find out after the fact it was treated, I wouldn't be pleased.
My other seaponies, when I have showed them off, people have messaged me with "if you ever sell I'll buy" "would you sell for such and such" poor WJ is a spare set (don't ask, I have two more loose ones w/shells) and thus I do not need her for my collection. I only had one person interested..... for less then I paid (I got what I thought was a good deal) and at that time, less then the shell alone would cost, the offer was both pony and shell together as a set. I don't blame that collector for the offer, honestly.... It's me who'll have to take the $ hit when I sell. If WJ was splotchy (those brown stains seaponies get) or marked with some pen, my inbox would have been full of offers.
So that's my sense -perception in the community makes these treatments a sort of black mark on resale. While I would skip BP/acne cream or remove zit ponies, I have still bought sunfaded ponies from collectors. I figure what I see currently is what I will get. Might have been better or worse then how the seller originally started before fading her, but they won't magically get worse in the post. Even de-rusting a tail I could mess it up and accidentally ruin her tail. any restoration has risk. some are riskier then others, and this one has such a wide margin of error- much larger imo then making a pony worse by sunfading her alone.
WJ was helpful though. I started keeping even better logs, and going back through my purchase records to keep track of ponies and logging the others I could. A fun part to me is saving every picture of every sale I bought, or trade etc. with the price and month year and sellers handle (ebay, TP, arena).
I used all that info and made a whole new list, toy collector sold, vs. non toy people sold (like a childhood collection that wasn't cleaned at all). I hope this lessens the chance that I inadvertently do the same to someone else, selling a fixed pony I bought and thought was "original" whom I had no idea was touched.
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coming in to share to of my acne cream victims...
"Just do it! It work sooo great!" they said... Nobody had kept an eye on their ponies for a longer period to see the upcoming damage so I cant blame anybody.
Baby Lickety Split... she was perfect except for a few tiny biro marks. Now shes... meh. Well, she is still very nice but see the pink spots on her rear? Thats where the acne cream was. It didnt lighten the ponys body but caused places to turn pink. And to make it worse, it spread / grew bigger. I didnt treat her symbols so everything that is under them comes from slowly processing damage over time.
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Poor Nightlight was worse... she came to me full of black marks, you can still see them. The acne cream turned her patchy but didnt do ANYTHING to the marker stains, lol.
Well I have to say, the acne cream - party happened about 8+/- years ago. The light spots caused by the acne cream were waaaaay brighter then, Im acutally surprised to see them darken again.
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I also had a Mommy Meadowsweet trated back then... her body turned yellow in those places I treated her and since she also had lost most of her hair she is now sitting in my bait box. Gotta dig her up ...
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Oh no, poor Nightlight! Have you thought about sunfading her? Although I don't know what effect it would have on the acne cream areas . . .
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Oh no, poor Nightlight! Have you thought about sunfading her? Although I don't know what effect it would have on the acne cream areas . . .
I think the cream reacts to sun &/or heat and it could yellow or further bleach out the pony. The black marker looks like it may be on the surface, I would try a very fine grit sand paper on her to see if you can take some of it off.... she actually looks like a really fun project pony.
Please note that if you use these creams on your body they are doing the same thing to you! I wont say too much there, but please please please, if you use these creams research more about them and what they are doing to your skin.
Has anyone tried soaking one of these ponies in oil or hand lotion? I know that sounds weird, but plastics loose oil as they age and these creams work by drying out the area they are on. Oil cant bring back color that was lost, but I wonder if it would stop the spread or help areas that are only part faded like the pink on the baby above? I had a bait Dutch diary that I soaked in oil recently and it had amazing results, she was NOT a acne cream victim though, just regular aging/play damage.
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No no no no no no no no....this is something I would stand on a soap box and preach to people about. Never ever use acne cream on ponies. For ever reason mentioned here especially that damage can take years to turn up (and since have passed through the hands of a couple of other collectors and the knowledge of the use may have been forgotten.
Too many horrendous stories of damage float around :( and its not something that can be fixed as you have bleached the colour out of the plastic.
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The only thing I have ever used on my ponies is a chemical-free soap and a very mild diluted shampoo for the hair, and ditto on any doubles I pick up and sell on, but some of the ponies we got in trade years ago, who knows? My sister's ponies all went up in the attic some years ago. We had them down over the summer and her Daisy Dancer has clearly been a victim of this. Sister took it reasonably well, she isn't a perfectionist, but it was still sad.
None of mine have shown this yet, and that may be because I bought most of mine pre-acne cream discovery, or from local carboot sales - or since the damage was discovered...but I don't rule it out as a possibility. We had Daisy Dancer a very long time, thinking about it, and she never showed any of these issues when she went up in the attic...so it's possible that people were using it even before it became discussed as a cure-all.
I don't believe in restoration generally...this is just a really really good example of making matters worse. I can live with pen marks, depending on where they are and so on...but splotchy plastic due to chemicals that might yet do more damage? No thank you.
Soap is good with me.
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Please note that if you use these creams on your body they are doing the same thing to you! I wont say too much there, but please please please, if you use these creams research more about them and what they are doing to your skin.
NPR but thank you for mentioning. You remember I had really bad skin? I was warned it makes us photosensitive by a doc. I would wear hats and stay inside a lot over the summer. :( I used to have to use it on myself- until I discovered what was causing the issue. Skin and a slew of other things I control with a sadly restrictive diet. but it's worth it to avoid this stuff alone, not to mention all those other problems.
No no no no no no no no....this is something I would stand on a soap box and preach to people about. Never ever use acne cream on ponies. For ever reason mentioned here especially that damage can take years to turn up (and since have passed through the hands of a couple of other collectors and the knowledge of the use may have been forgotten.
Too many horrendous stories of damage float around :( and its not something that can be fixed as you have bleached the colour out of the plastic.
YES. this is why I tossed all the baits, I didn't want them customized by someone lovingly only to have faded patches, or resold later without that disclosed. and I don't know if I should keep WJ as a horrible warning, or sell her. but before I do her maker marks WILL have RZ/AC etched beside them so any new owner after the next can look it up so they are aware.
My sister's ponies all went up in the attic some years ago. We had them down over the summer and her Daisy Dancer has clearly been a victim of this. Sister took it reasonably well, she isn't a perfectionist, but it was still sad.
None of mine have shown this yet, and that may be because I bought most of mine pre-acne cream discovery, or from local carboot sales - or since the damage was discovered...but I don't rule it out as a possibility. We had Daisy Dancer a very long time, thinking about it, and she never showed any of these issues when she went up in the attic...so it's possible that people were using it even before it became discussed as a cure-all.
When I had to use this cream on my face, well.... the warnings I got was to apply it with something so it isn't on your hands as it will bleach your clothing/bedding etc. So I did that and I also scrubbed my hands after, my blankets were navy and the transfer would have taken it out. it ruined a lot of my pillowcases, no getting around that- my face touched those.
But I could easily see a teen using cream on her face, applied with her hands and handling a pony after and there you go. wasn't intended to be on the pony but it's there anyway. -_-
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Oh no, poor Nightlight! Have you thought about sunfading her? Although I don't know what effect it would have on the acne cream areas . . .
[...]The black marker looks like it may be on the surface, I would try a very fine grit sand paper on her to see if you can take some of it off.... she actually looks like a really fun project pony.[...]
Yes, Ive tried that, for example on one of the spots on her neck (the one that looks a little more brown). It did come off a little but I have to say, the spot was smaller before I started treating it with sand paper, so I think I have rubbed it into the body or something (dont know how to explain it in english, I hope you understand what I mean). Well, Nightlight is with me since 2004 or 2005 I think (I got her when we still lived in Hannover, so it must have been around then) and tried so many things on her... nothing worked so I have decided just to leave her alone lol. She was the typical "I-hide-in-a-lot" - pony with her damage not visible. NONE of the other ponies were damaged, it was just her XD
But somehow I love her. Little Eva (Nightlight has the name "Eva" written on her display side) was only trying to paint more stars on her night-themed pony, so I can forgive her :P
btw, thats her display side : http://einhornbaby.contract-killers.de/sammlung/regenbogenponys_d/nachtlicht.jpg (you can see the name on the belly, the camera flash washed it out a little.)
But what I wanted to show and tell is : really DO NOT EVER use acne cream on a pony. You NEVER know what happens and the damage can come years after the use when the plastic starts to degrade. Id rather live with spots and marks then doing this ever again!
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Moral of the story is that marks are a sign of a child's playing with and loving the toy, but acne cream and chemical damage is the result of collector vanity trying to make an imperfect childhood item into a perfect museum piece.
Personally, I'm happier with the child's love, and I think the acne cream kinda indicates there's a line between cleaning up a battered pony and making it damaged in the long run for a short term appearance of pretty.
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Moral of the story is that marks are a sign of a child's playing with and loving the toy, but acne cream and chemical damage is the result of collector vanity trying to make an imperfect childhood item into a perfect museum piece.
Personally, I'm happier with the child's love, and I think the acne cream kinda indicates there's a line between cleaning up a battered pony and making it damaged in the long run for a short term appearance of pretty.
Well, my first bad experience with benzoyl peroxide was with a lavender pony whose stains are also kinda my fault (I left it in storage where it acquired several awful brown stains, probably from dust/dirt. They were pretty tough too)
Sometimes marks/flaws are caused by the collector themselves. You can't really blame someone wanting to fix a mistake they made themselves.
As much as I absolutely regret using it on that one particular pony though, I will also have to say that after repainting its symbols, having the bleached looking sections from the cream looks admittedly less bad than it looked before with all those huge brown stains. Lesser of two evils I guess.
I don't have a problem making a pony look more 'pretty' in 'short term' as I would rather already enjoy my toys in the current times especially when I still have a huge interest in them, not as 'collector vanity' to make something look 'perfect', especially since many MLPs are quite old and will eventually succumb to aging anyway.
I most likely won't use acne cream anymore after reading this thread, but all the other toys aside from the one I mentioned above that I have given the treatment a few years ago are still fine today, thankfully.
No spreading either from what I see.
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It does surprise me that there are still recommendations out there to use the acne cream on ponies.
I remember I bought some of the remove-zit when it came out to use on a doll's face- and it didn't really work, stank really bad and then the stuff got dry so I tossed it. Thank goodness I never tried it on ponies!
I still have the doll I tried the cream on- it actually didn't fade her face (it has been probably over 8 years) but the brown spots are still there, lol
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I should favorite this picture for all the times this comes up, lol.
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It does surprise me that there are still recommendations out there to use the acne cream on ponies.
There absolutely are, yes. I am still fairly new to collecting and restoring, and I came across it while looking for information. It wasn't until I registered here that I found out you should not use the cream, and by that time, I had already bought and tried it - luckily only on a baby bottle and maybe on a white pony (not even sure, think I wanted to see if the bottle worked first), but not on any coloured one.
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It does surprise me that there are still recommendations out there to use the acne cream on ponies.
I remember I bought some of the remove-zit when it came out to use on a doll's face- and it didn't really work, stank really bad and then the stuff got dry so I tossed it. Thank goodness I never tried it on ponies!
I still have the doll I tried the cream on- it actually didn't fade her face (it has been probably over 8 years) but the brown spots are still there, lol
OMG- thank you I thought I happily forgot about the stink, I think I got one application on my tests. I bought a sample of the stuff from another collector and the SMELL. :X The other scary thing is it was advertised as formulated for dolls and toys. grrrr. so people using it thinking it's made for this, I can totally totally see.
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Horrible but I'm glad we are having this discussion!
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OMG- thank you I thought I happily forgot about the stink, I think I got one application on my tests. I bought a sample of the stuff from another collector and the SMELL. :X The other scary thing is it was advertised as formulated for dolls and toys. grrrr. so people using it thinking it's made for this, I can totally totally see.
I think the problem is more that they don't specify what kind of toys and dolls it's formulated for. I recently got into Dollfie Dream and Obitsu dolls, and Removezit(and acne cream) are the go-to stain treatment solutions for them. And that's because the vinyl that those dolls are made of do respond positively to these things. Using the Oxy10 method(acne cream), on one of those dolls took off even sharpie with ease and absolutely no damage(beginner mistakes were made...) and that's usually how it goes. So I'm guessing that's probably where the suggestions come from?
It's interesting to read this thread because I have yet to see someone ever say something bad about the acne cream/removezit methods on the Dollfie hobby side. :lol: So it's a bit trippy to be somewhere where it causes damage and is hated. But it's totally understandable! I'm surprised it bleaches them like that.
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OMG- thank you I thought I happily forgot about the stink, I think I got one application on my tests. I bought a sample of the stuff from another collector and the SMELL. :X The other scary thing is it was advertised as formulated for dolls and toys. grrrr. so people using it thinking it's made for this, I can totally totally see.
I think the problem is more that they don't specify what kind of toys and dolls it's formulated for. I recently got into Dollfie Dream and Obitsu dolls, and Removezit(and acne cream) are the go-to stain treatment solutions for them. And that's because the vinyl that those dolls are made of do respond positively to these things. Using the Oxy10 method(acne cream), on one of those dolls took off even sharpie with ease and absolutely no damage(beginner mistakes were made...) and that's usually how it goes. So I'm guessing that's probably where the suggestions come from?
It's the recommended solution for American Girl dolls as well. I've read that the acne cream is only recommended for things colored with a solid pigment, rather than a dye like the ponies are.
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I've never seen this before. Now I'm curious. I wonder how regrind would respond to acne cream? Or if someone were to put it on a whole pony's body, would it go entirely, evenly white? These are things I would never do as the potential for transfer to other ponies is scary, but now my curiosity's going...
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Now I know what my Daffodil is suffering from. I got her a few years ago from Sweden, and she was perfect. Shortly after, in my humid environment, some yellow spots on her back developed. I haven't checked on her in a long time, and just today I picked her up, and under the yellow spots there are some pen marks appearing .... It looks so ugly. Thankfully it's only on her NDS and back, but still. I'm scared what other ponies in my collection back home have been developing ...
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Now I know what my Daffodil is suffering from. I got her a few years ago from Sweden, and she was perfect. Shortly after, in my humid environment, some yellow spots on her back developed. I haven't checked on her in a long time, and just today I picked her up, and under the yellow spots there are some pen marks appearing .... It looks so ugly. Thankfully it's only on her NDS and back, but still. I'm scared what other ponies in my collection back home have been developing ...
Oh yeah that is exactly what the acne cream does to ponies! Over time weird bleached spots appear and spread.
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I've never seen this before. Now I'm curious. I wonder how regrind would respond to acne cream? Or if someone were to put it on a whole pony's body, would it go entirely, evenly white? These are things I would never do as the potential for transfer to other ponies is scary, but now my curiosity's going...
Even though I sold my afflicted Bowtie (the buyer knew about the condition), I believe that someday she may turn totally white! I had her for less than a year and all the areas under her mane had turned white. When I bought her it was just her lip. So I do think even though it was one area she will someday be a strange white French bowtie lol. But maybe if acne cream is spread everywhere it would turn white and then maybe yellow? Hard to know :/
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I don't have a problem making a pony look more 'pretty' in 'short term' as I would rather already enjoy my toys in the current times especially when I still have a huge interest in them, not as 'collector vanity' to make something look 'perfect', especially since many MLPs are quite old and will eventually succumb to aging anyway.
If it's your own pony and you're okay with the consequences it's not an issue. The issue is with the examples discussed that get sold through multiple hands and, when the damage becomes visible, creates distress with those collectors. Several people here have ahd ponies they acquired as perfect and then realised what had been done to them later. That is what I meant by collector vanity. The pursuit of perfection doesn't always lead to the best outcome...some flaws are best left as flaws, because while ponies will age and develop problems, we still don't know the long term impact of this stuff on pony plastic and whether it could make the situation worse overall.
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OMG- thank you I thought I happily forgot about the stink, I think I got one application on my tests. I bought a sample of the stuff from another collector and the SMELL. :X The other scary thing is it was advertised as formulated for dolls and toys. grrrr. so people using it thinking it's made for this, I can totally totally see.
I think the problem is more that they don't specify what kind of toys and dolls it's formulated for. I recently got into Dollfie Dream and Obitsu dolls, and Removezit(and acne cream) are the go-to stain treatment solutions for them. And that's because the vinyl that those dolls are made of do respond positively to these things. Using the Oxy10 method(acne cream), on one of those dolls took off even sharpie with ease and absolutely no damage(beginner mistakes were made...) and that's usually how it goes. So I'm guessing that's probably where the suggestions come from?
It's the recommended solution for American Girl dolls as well. I've read that the acne cream is only recommended for things colored with a solid pigment, rather than a dye like the ponies are.
Huh, I'd always wondered why people ever thought to try acne cream and why it keeps coming up as a restoration method. I had no idea it actually is used elsewhere.
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There is a major difference in the plastics and polymers used between many dolls and ponies. As others have mentioned one of the key being that the polymers used are usually the correct colour but with ponies its an pigment additive. When something is an additive its easier to damage as its not an integral part of the polymer.
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I made a Tumblr post about this, feel free to reblog. :)
http://heckyeahponyscans.tumblr.com/post/141012572468
And thanks to mlp4me, Einhornbaby, and ShelvesOfWhimsy for permission to use their pictures!
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I made a Tumblr post about this, feel free to reblog. :)
http://heckyeahponyscans.tumblr.com/post/141012572468
And thanks to mlp4me, Einhornbaby, and ShelvesOfWhimsy for permission to use their pictures!
Ooo, another pony tumblr to follow! (not that I'm on tumblr much, but still. Ponies.)
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I made a Tumblr post about this, feel free to reblog. :)
http://heckyeahponyscans.tumblr.com/post/141012572468
And thanks to mlp4me, Einhornbaby, and ShelvesOfWhimsy for permission to use their pictures!
Ooo, another pony tumblr to follow! (not that I'm on tumblr much, but still. Ponies.)
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LadyMoondancer is definitely worth following- she has the most awesome scans and info!
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Thank you, very informative. Interesting to hear that doll communities have found success with the method. explains why it's endorsed so often still.
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I think it depends on the color of the pony
Here's a site with the info, go to the Creams section: http://www.mlppreservationproject.com/body.html#StainRemoval
It says you can use it on yellow and orange ponies and sometimes pink and white depending on the pony itself, but avoid on green, blue, or purple ones
Just fyi, this is one method I don't have much experience with personally. All my info was provided by other collectors and I put it last in the section since it worries everyone so much. I think it can help with yellow and white ponies, but when I've tried it I actually got no effect whatsoever, this was a couple of years ago and still no change: http://www.mlppreservationproject.com/mycollection6.html#SundaeBestPonies (sorry this section of the site is still a bit of a mess.) I tried whitening a pony with it too, just to see what would happen, and again, nothing. I don't know if I'm just not leaving it on long enough or what. It probably has something to do with the vinyl and what caused the yellowing.
I'd definitely give them a good oxiclean bath after using it. I'll probably contact a few of you to see if I can update that section with your pictures and info since this is such a nice thread about it.