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Title: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: WaterDraw on August 25, 2018, 07:38:40 PM
Hello everyone! I just found out that I guess the MO Majesty and Playset Majesty were both made differently (I originally thought MO Majesty was just extra stock or something like that), and the main thing is that Playset Majesty tends to be of lesser quality than MO Majesty. Also I guess Playset Majesty has a farther back hairline? Maybe? I don't know for sure.
So, if someone could provide pictures comparing the two and listing out the problems with Playset Majesty, that'd be wonderful! I've been wanting a Majesty for a while and I want to make sure I get the right one.  ^.^
Also, as a side note, does anyone know is MO Majesty came with the crown?
Anyway, thank you to anyone who can help me! All replies are appreciated :)
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 25, 2018, 08:01:08 PM
It seems like we're still trying to figure out definites, but this thread (http://mlparena.com/index.php?topic=391648.0) might steer you in the right direction.
The summary is that receeding hairline Majestys always came with the castle, but not all normal hair Majestys were mail order. You know, the square/rectangle thing.
Can't find anything about her quality, but it'd be interesting to hear! I've got a receeding hair Majesty with some nasty brown spots.
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: WaterDraw on August 25, 2018, 08:05:01 PM
It seems like we're still trying to figure out definites, but this thread (http://mlparena.com/index.php?topic=391648.0) might steer you in the right direction.
The summary is that receeding hairline Majestys always came with the castle, but not all normal hair Majestys were mail order. You know, the square/rectangle thing.
Can't find anything about her quality, but it'd be interesting to hear! I've got a receeding hair Majesty with some nasty brown spots.

Thanks for the link! Hopefully we can all pin-point the differences and figure everything out soon...
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: KottonKandy on August 26, 2018, 08:25:58 PM
I only have the one Majesty and she sports serious Elizabethan hairline. I always figured it was done on purpose though so she could wear her little Damsel hat crown without mushing up her forelock.
I can't say much about the quality since I don't have the other Majesty to compare to. But she seems pretty normal. She's still pretty white and doesn't seem to have any brown spots or anything.
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: lilico on August 27, 2018, 01:38:40 AM
Also, there're 2 versions of Majesty : purple and blue eyed.
I never knew which is which ? Playset ? MO ?
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: Taffeta on August 27, 2018, 06:04:26 AM
There's also one made in China, which is thought to be a later European release towards the end of the Castle's issue. The castle was out continuously in the UK and in Europe quite late, and in some countries really late. It's been theorised by some folk on the continent that the Chinese Majesty came from that release.

My sister has one she found here in the UK, but ponies can travel.

My childhood Majesty who came with the castle in 1987 (castle had a blue brush, not yellow) has the flat hair and rooted back.

I have another really pretty Majesty made in HK whose hair has full shape and is shiny and lovely. But I cannot remember where she came from or if she could possibly be a MO...
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: flutterscotch on August 27, 2018, 06:53:11 AM
Can confirm that every person I knew who had a Dream Castle in the US around the time of release, we all had that weird Elizabethan hairline on ours and also figured it was so the damsel hat would fit better.

I have one that I believe is mail order currently, and her hair is rooted oddly.  The streak is just part of her top row of hair instead of a separate little row of holes, mixed in and she has flatter hair.  She is very white though.
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: ashlyne on August 27, 2018, 06:56:42 AM
Ya, this is a confusing one.  I don't know if Hasbro mixed stock, but of all the Majesty variations I have, the Mail Order one does seem to be of better quality than the others, just even in the way the plastic feels.   But it's one of those things you almost have to compare in person to see.   I tracked down mine as a set with the other mail order playset ponies just to feel confident I had the right one.

So here's my mail order Majesty, purple-eyed and full mane:
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Aaaaaand playset variations.

Blue-Eyed Receding Mane:
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Purple-Eyed Receding Mane:
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Purple-Eyed Full Mane:
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To make matters worse, some have thicker symbols vs thin symbols.   There's also a difference in the way the mane is haired.  Some of the plugs are spaced further apart and more random, with choppy ends (Sprinkles has this problem too) while others, like the mail order version, are nice and full with an even cut.  But it's really hard to know what are intentional differences, and which are just factory blunders.
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: Taffeta on August 27, 2018, 08:19:54 AM
@ashlyne - are any of them China Majestys?

My photo of my nice Majesty is too small to make out salient details so it's hard to know which category she falls into. I can about see she has purple eyes though.

I am not too worried about the difference between MO and playset with my own ponies, though, it's more that I wanted a nice Majesty. Mail order is kind of anathema here, and given how baby Half Note ended up coming with the playset here in stores, who really knows what Hasbro was thinking anyway.

All I know is that DC was still on sale here from 1984-5 till around 1987-8 and possibly later in Europe, which means potential for a lot of Majesty batches even after the US stopped...
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: ashlyne on August 27, 2018, 09:04:20 AM
@ashlyne - are any of them China Majestys?


I will check when I get home, but I don't think so. I'm usually pretty good at checking the hooves and making note of the China ones or if some say PAT PEND while others don't. 

Post Merge: August 27, 2018, 05:17:49 PM

All my Majesty's are "HONG KONG PAT PEND. "

 :shrug:
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: WaterDraw on August 27, 2018, 07:28:58 PM
Ya, this is a confusing one.  I don't know if Hasbro mixed stock, but of all the Majesty variations I have, the Mail Order one does seem to be of better quality than the others, just even in the way the plastic feels.   But it's one of those things you almost have to compare in person to see.   I tracked down mine as a set with the other mail order playset ponies just to feel confident I had the right one.

So here's my mail order Majesty, purple-eyed and full mane:
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Aaaaaand playset variations.

Blue-Eyed Receding Mane:
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Purple-Eyed Receding Mane:
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Purple-Eyed Full Mane:
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To make matters worse, some have thicker symbols vs thin symbols.   There's also a difference in the way the mane is haired.  Some of the plugs are spaced further apart and more random, with choppy ends (Sprinkles has this problem too) while others, like the mail order version, are nice and full with an even cut.  But it's really hard to know what are intentional differences, and which are just factory blunders.

Oh my gosh...the hairline on the Playset one is so....so....uh shocking I guess. The hairline is the main reason I wanted to know if there was like actual differences because I heard people talking about it but I didn't know the receeding hairline was THAT drastic. I suppose it isn't noticeable though with her crown on...
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: wizzer218 on August 27, 2018, 11:34:44 PM
I have a China marked one :)
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: ashlyne on August 28, 2018, 06:01:06 AM
Of the Majesty ponies I have, the ones with the full mane that goes to the horn have the nice full line of plugs and even cut.

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The ones with the receding mane have a choppier mane, with the plugs spaced further apart. The mane doesn't like to curl around the neck and just kind of sticks straight.   

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Those with China ponies, is there a PAT PEND stamp on the hoof?  I'm curious :)
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: flutterscotch on August 29, 2018, 01:14:37 PM
Here's my weird Majesty of uncertain origin (but suspect mail order).






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More pics under the spoiler.

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Pretty thin lower mane rooting (and missing three plugs to boot)
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Her streak is especially weird.
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Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: Majesty on August 29, 2018, 01:17:47 PM
I also tried to find the difference and from what I saw the mail order one has a longer mane.
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: LadyMoondancer on August 29, 2018, 01:54:39 PM
I wanted to add that I once had about six Majestys in my trade box (back when G1s were fairly common second hand) and they all had slightly different eye colors ranging from lilac to blue.  In addition, I had a Majesty with one blue eye and one purple eye!  So the eye variation boils down to quality control issues and batch variations, I think.

Great picture of how far apart the plugs can be in Majesty's mane (especially the 'lower' row), most of the ones I had looked like that.  And they all had the receding hairline.
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: aria_elwen on August 29, 2018, 02:46:07 PM
Wow! I see what people mean when they say receding mane!

Mine is definitely a playset Majesty as I got her from new.

Purple eyed, full maned and from Hong Kong.
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: Powder1026 on August 29, 2018, 04:11:50 PM
Wow! I see what people mean when they say receding mane!

Mine is definitely a playset Majesty as I got her from new.

Purple eyed, full maned and from Hong Kong.

No kidding! Makes me want to go check out which Majesty I have lol.
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: Taffeta on August 30, 2018, 01:00:56 AM

Those with China ponies, is there a PAT PEND stamp on the hoof?  I'm curious :)

Your wish is my command ;) Yes there is:

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Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: ashlyne on August 30, 2018, 05:08:10 AM
Thanks Taffeta!  This is really interesting!
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: Khoufu on August 30, 2018, 07:16:31 AM
This makes me wonder where my Majesty came from. Full mane, purple eyes, and I got her as a kid about 15 years ago probably from an antique store or the like.
Title: Re: MO Majesty Vs. Playset Majesty
Post by: Taffeta on August 30, 2018, 03:20:06 PM
Thanks Taffeta!  This is really interesting!

Unfortunately the pony in question is packed away so I only have the pictures on my site of her at present. But if wizzer has one too she might get better images of things like eyes and symbols if you needed them for comparison. She doesn't seem to come up often but I guess a lot fly under the radar. Naynie's does look like the symbol is more dense but it might be just the rust...

It looks as though the hoof is just altered with the CHINA scraped into the plastic somehow, the other looks the same as the HK so unchanged.
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