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Title: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Shaz on October 03, 2018, 02:36:38 AM
Following on from my obsession with foreign pony names (subject of a previous thread), I have now become interested in the complex world of My Little Pony releases in Europe. Help....

Anyway, as two of my favourite countries to research in terms of language, history, culture etc are Romania and Greece, I soon started focussing on them. And then I got interested in Eastern Europe in general, especially since I can't find out much about ponies in that part of the world.
So here is what I know so far:

ROMANIA - Romania did not have G1 ponies. At all. It is the only country listed on My Little Wiki that definitely had no G1 ponies. Poor Romania. I know they have G4, but does anyone know if they had G2 or G3?

GREECE - I know a LOT about Greek ponies, from the El Greco ponies to the Hasbro European releases. I don't think I have any questions about Greece at the moment.

CROATIA, SLOVENIA, MACEDONIA, BOSNIA, SERBIA, MONTENEGRO - Back in the G1 days, these were all part of Yugoslavia. I can't imagine that ponies were a thing in Yugoslavia, but I hope to be proved wrong :). I know these countries had G3, as I have a Princess Parade sticker album in Croatian, and have seen these albums for sale on eBay from Serbia and Macedonia. Obviously G4 is there now. What about G2?

BULGARIA - I don't know anything about ponies in Bulgaria. Again, I think their political situation in the '80s probably means that vinyl ponies weren't exactly a priority.

RUSSIA - I am pretty sure I have seen the G1 cartoon translated into Russian! I even found some G1 names translated into Russian; they were in an article comparing G1 and G4. I would love to know more about G1 in Russia.

I'm also intrigued by HUNGARY. I know Hungary is really Central Europe not Eastern Europe :). I know they had G1 ponies as I bought a bundle from there once, and it included 'European' ponies such as Music-Time and Collector's Pose Applejack. I know that the 1986 movie was released in Hungary too. I'd love to know more about the pattern of releases in Hungary. It seems to be a bit of an ignored country in terms of pony history.

So if you know anything about ponies (pre-G4, since G4 is pretty much global) in these locations, I'd like to know it too :). Maybe there's even people from these countries here, who remember childhood ponies! Do you know of websites about ponies from these countries?

I have vague ideas of one day creating a website about ponies in Europe, with especial focus on G1. After all, there's plenty of info about countries such as France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, and various parts of Scandinavia, which could be collected and collated. I'm not sure I would ever have the energy to do it all (I have some health problems which means my interests can be a bit stop/start sometimes, as every so often I just have to let everything go hang and rest up for a while), but I am collecting information just in case. If you have obscure info about European ponies, I'm the person who wants to know it :).
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2018, 02:40:22 AM
Totally on board with you if you ever do make a European website. I'm trying to integrate some European stuff into my site at the moment but a more pan-European specialised site would be amazing, especially covering so many regions. Even if it takes you a lot of time, good luck with that :)

I remember there are a couple of Russian folk on here who mentioned stuff before. I have seen a Russian pony comic from the later years...1990s maybe? But featuring artwork from earlier pony stuff. I forget who it was who posted it but there was a discussion.

In honesty, I am interested in both Israel and China, as well as Malaysia and Singapore, as we don't talk about them much. Israel isn't quite Europe but it isn't quite not Europe. Any chance of adding that to your range of stuff? I know a little about Israel and G1 ponies because of my friend who is now back out there...she has her childhood ponies still and remembered some of who she has...but not much.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Mismatch on October 03, 2018, 02:42:18 AM
The release of G2s would have coincided with the Yugoslav Wars, so I kind of doubt that any were released in Yugoslavia, though I wouldn't know either way.  The wars themselves were terrible and would have had a profound economic impact on the former Yugoslavian States:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Wars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Wars)
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: katrine2309 on October 03, 2018, 04:12:49 AM
Oooh! This is great! I can’t wait to hear what you find out!! These areas are a little forgotten when it comes to MLP. Hopefully, your research on this will do something about that!

The political situation in Europe, and especially Eastern Europe was quite different than it is today. In the early 80’s it was still very much, both politcally and economically, defined by east vs west. It was cold war. You mention Hungary as a land of interest. During most of G1, I think Hungary was occupied by Soviet union? I’m fairly sure they didn’t get their independence until 1989? The same is more or less true for Poland (you don’t mention them, but I think that is an interesting country to look at as well). Given that you already know something about releases there it would be interesting to find out if the areas connected to Soviet would have more or less the same releases?

You mention that Romania didn’t have any ponies. At all. I don’t find that strange though. After they  were fred from Soviet occupation in 58 I think I read somewhere that they turned more towards China? Which can explain why they didn’t have any Hasbro toys. I’m not sure though. Regardless, Romania was extremely poor country in the 80’s.

What I also find interesting, and never seen any discussions on is if there were any differences in MLP in west-Germany and DDR( East- Germany). I am sure there would be? Do we know if there were any MLP in DDR at all? If you are looking into Eastern Europe, I would also include DDR if I were you. The Berlin wall didn’t fall before 1989, and the Soviet union didn’t dissolve before 1991. Did those two events impact anything perhaps?

 
The release of G2s would have coincided with the Yugoslav Wars, so I kind of doubt that any were released in Yugoslavia, though I wouldn't know either way.  The wars themselves were terrible and would have had a profound economic impact on the former Yugoslavian States:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Wars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Wars)

Agreed. I very much doubt that ponies were sold in former Yugoslavia. These wars were terrible indeed, and the worst wars in Europe since WW2. Tensions were high after Tito’s death in 1980, so that might have impacted the market during the first years of G1 too. The wars and what followed with them led to a high scale of refugees and forced movement. If G1 was sold during those early years I think it will be very difficult to find out any info on them.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Shaz on October 03, 2018, 07:02:23 AM
Lots of interesting things to reply to!

I figured that all the political upheaval in Eastern Europe would mean that there was no market for ponies in many of the countries. I know how grim things were in Soviet Romania, but I didn't previously know much about former-Yugoslavia.

I keep finding more and more countries that I want to know about! I know that Poland had the cartoon and the 1986 film, so I am guessing they had the toys too. Israel didn't get the cartoon until the 1990s (I think?). I think the MLP n Friends cartoon was quite a presence in various European countries in the late '80s/early '90s, e.g. Greece didn't get the cartoon until after the 1986 movie, but it continued to be aired on TV at various intervals throughout the '90s. I wonder if Russia also only got the cartoon later.

I know that ponies sold in Israel include Powder, because I bought one from there! I would like to know more about Israel, but there is quite a language barrier there. I will have a go at any language written in Latin, Greek or Cyrillic alphabet, but Hebrew is a closed book to me!

I remember reading somewhere that the Soviet regime in Hungary was less strict than, for example, that in Romania, and that Hungary was generally more affluent and had more access to Western media. So that is why it made sense to me that Hungary could have had ponies in the 80s even if neighbouring countries didn't. Based on my purchase of a bundle of ponies from a non-collector in Hungary, they seem to have had: Princess Ponies, Merry-Go-Round Ponies, Sunshine Ponies, Tropical Ponies, Pony Bride, Rockin' Beats, Precious Pockets, Playschool Babies, Schooltime Ponies and Rollerskates Ponies. Hmm, that is all later lines; I think the Princesses were 1987/8 elsewhere. There was also a Peachy and a CP Applejack, but who knows where they come into it!

My ultimate dream would be a gigantic list of all the ponies produced in G1, with comprehensive details of the countries and sets they were sold in. But trying to organise that would probably melt my brain! My hypothesis so far is that there was a great deal of variation in the early years of G1, with different sets in different European countries, ponies made in Italy, Greece, Spain, France etc.; then around 1988/9 the European countries that had ponies began to get the same ponies. I'm following a Greek vintage toys shop on eBay and they sometimes have later ponies for sale in pan-European packaging with lots of languages on the back.

Sorry if this is a bit scrambled! I'm at the "collecting lots of random info and hoping it all fits together later" stage of my pony researches :lol:.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2018, 07:18:44 AM
Unfortunately my Israeli friend is now back in Israel, so less easy for me to poke about stuff. I am not sure about the timeline, but I know from what she told me/remembered from her collection which she still has, she had the Apple Delight Family (Mum, Dad, Sister), SS Shady, and a winger...I think we decided it was a Windy Wing but I forget which one. She also told me a lot of these shows got to Israel a bit later. It sounds to me from what she said that the ponies they had were mostly from the US, so Powder makes sense, probably on US card.

The only Hebrew I can read is 'Shalom' and when I was over there I could make out signs that said Jerusalem while she was driving. Which isn't helpful for ponies.

It's not Europe but I am also interested in the Chinese language media and also what was in Singapore and Malaysia as I've heard various interesting stories about that. I can also sort of read bits of the Chinese (for example, I can read My Little Pony & Friends on the covers of the books LM listed on ebay) and I suspect with a bit of poking I could make some sense of those. My mandarin is still basic but there's some kanji crossover with Japanese and I can at least get the gist.

But that's not Europe. It makes me sad that the Japanese line holds zero interest for me and has zero in the way of interesting G1 media to read and translate :/ What is there is all covered in katakana and I don't like the Takara ponies anyway so meh. I would love to read and translate some G1 Japanese pony stuff, but it doesn't exist :(

But now I'm going off topic.

I had a friend from Croatia and it was pretty dire over there when he was a small kid. :/

I wonder whether some of these places got ponies after 1989. It sounds possible.

I used to have a colleague from Dresden which was in East Germany. I wonder whether anyone on here grew up on that side of the divide and may know the answer. She told me a lot about growing up in East Germany, but we never talked about ponies because she was ten years older than me and it wouldn't have appealed to her I don't think.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 07:29:36 AM

I keep finding more and more countries that I want to know about! I know that Poland had the cartoon and the 1986 film, so I am guessing they had the toys too.

I don't think you should guess at the information.
So far confirmed Poland had the cartoon. Unknown if they had the toys.

And I think you should try to get information if it was a common toy in most areas or just only in big city toy stores.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2018, 07:31:36 AM

I keep finding more and more countries that I want to know about! I know that Poland had the cartoon and the 1986 film, so I am guessing they had the toys too.

I don't think you should guess at the information.
So far confirmed Poland had the cartoon. Unknown if they had the toys.

And I think you should try to get information if it was a common toy in most areas or just only in big city toy stores.

Also if stores imported from other countries direct, or if it was a formal distribution by a Hasbro branch somewhere else...I guess?
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Shaz on October 03, 2018, 08:08:05 AM

I keep finding more and more countries that I want to know about! I know that Poland had the cartoon and the 1986 film, so I am guessing they had the toys too.

I don't think you should guess at the information.
So far confirmed Poland had the cartoon. Unknown if they had the toys.

And I think you should try to get information if it was a common toy in most areas or just only in big city toy stores.

You're right, I was leaping to conclusions there. And actually, thinking about it, I don't think it's uncommon to have a TV show in several countries and its related toys only available in some of those countries. I'm sure I've watched children's things on UK television and then found that the toyline is only sold in the US (I immediately can't think of an example). That could have been the situation with Poland and/or Russia, as I haven't seen any actual ponies from either of those places. I will wait in hopes of some confirmation one way or the other.

There's a lot that I think it will just be impossible to find out. Or if not impossible then very very difficult! Unless I start living a nomadic life travelling around Europe asking random people searching questions about their childhood toys :lol:. But who knows what will come to light.

@Taffeta, arghhhh don't give me more countries to wonder about!
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 08:35:41 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/these-crazy-star-wars-bootleg-toys-are-now-130055132.html

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“Because of trade embargoes in certain countries, a lot of the stuff was made during the Cold War,” Joseph Yglesias, a leading expert on Star Wars bootleg toys who is writing a book on the subject, tells Yahoo Movies. “So a lot of Soviet countries couldn’t get licensed products legally imported. For some reason, they could get the movies but they couldn’t get the toys. So to have something for the kid to play with, that was affordable for the average worker in say, Poland, a lot of these bootleg companies filled the gap.”
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: katrine2309 on October 03, 2018, 11:24:05 AM
@shaz: I am not sure how things were in Hungary during the 80’s, but from what I remember from my history is that Hungary actually revolted against Soviet in the 50’s which they lost of course, but the result was a much tighter grip on the Eastern bloc from Soviet. Not sure how tight it was in the 80’s though.

Actually, Romania was the first country that «liberated» itself from Soviet. They gained their independence already in the 50’s. Whereas Hungary, Poland and many other eastern bloc countries didn’t before 1989. I actually think they broke out of the Warszaw Pact as well- which was Soviet and the Easter blocs equivalent of NATO. Of course, Romania had it extremely difficult both politically and financially up until recent years. But I think that was based on their own rule? They did have a communist rule under the Cold War and tried to implement several reforms that didn’t go that well if I remember correctly...?

Anyway, I don’t remember that much from my history classes on the cold war- it’s been some years :lol: And I babble on anyway, because I think history is so exciting (now you all know why I like pony-history!!) :P

Do you know anything from the Baltic countries? Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia? They were a part of Soviet, so maybe not? It would be awesome to find something though. Have you tried to find BST sites in some of those countries? If they did have these toys- would they perhaps have a similar structure for BST of used stuff?

I found this on YouTube by the way- MLP intro in Russian: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wLSVGQTS2Vo

They at least had the show!
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Shaz on October 03, 2018, 12:44:35 PM
Kind of off-topic, but I am majorly jealous of the fact that you got to study the Cold War in history classes! When I was at school, our history lessons were very UK-centric (with the occasional bit of the US), so what I know about European history can be a bit patchy and vague  :blush:. Quite embarrassing as I do love history, but my self-taught history tends to be pre-20th century (e.g. 15th century Romania <3). I am learning a lot more 20th century history thanks to ponies!

I have been making a ton of notes about all that's been said in this thread, and I've also found some info about when pony cartoons were aired in various countries!

What I'm getting so far is that Romania and what was then Yugoslavia had no G1 ponies. Russia had the cartoon at some point (1986?), in the 90s they had some comics, but possibly no ponies (I vaguely remember someone on this forum mentioning in passing that there were no vintage ponies to be found in Russia?).

Poland may not have had any ponies. MLP the Movie was released on VHS in Poland in 1989. In 1998-9, there were Polish dubs of the movie and MLP n Friends on TV. There was a Polish dub of MLP Tales too, but I'm not sure when that was broadcast.

Hungary had ponies from at least around 1987/8. MLP the Movie was released in Hungary in 1990. MLP n Friends was shown in Hungary between 1991 and 1993. They didn't have MLP Tales. Oh, I have also discovered that the intro for Hungarian MLP is really catchy: "Én kicsi pónim, én kicsi pónim...." https://youtu.be/-ioPYX17QCA
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2018, 12:53:17 PM
Someone in Russia from this forum also mentioned getting pony stuff from Ukraine. But I can't remember which generation it was.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: LadyMoondancer on October 03, 2018, 12:53:23 PM
I can ask my Transformers bud from Russia if she knows anything about previous gens of MLP there, but she may not know since she is too young to have had G1 toys herself.  (I think they have the G4 toys.  They DEFINITELY have G4 bootlegs.)

I have a hard time believing G1 MLP would have made its way into the country, except as bootlegged stuff.  The USSR was around until 1991.  The Cold War was in full swing in the 80s and they didn't call it the Iron Curtain for nothing . . . But hey, maybe I am wrong.

Come to think of it, West Germany / East Germany were still a thing up to 1990.  Crazy to think about.  Anyone know if G1s were sold in East Germany?  Edit:  Oops katrine2309 mentioned this already, that's what I get for replying right away, ha ha.

Edit #2:  Yeah, here are the Chinese books if anyone is interested!  They are crazy long and they faithfully adapted EVERY episode of MLP & Friends + the two specials.  However the actual books appear to be published around 1994 and are almost definitely not licensed.
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Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Shaz on October 03, 2018, 01:05:38 PM
Wow, I didn't realise it before but Chinese pony books were totally something I needed to see! They are awesome. It's really cool to think of all these people all over the world who had ponies as part of their childhood, whether it was toys, cartoons or books.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2018, 01:26:50 PM
I would love a Chinese book one day just to see how much of it I can read...

But I can read the title and it definitely says My Little Pony (wo de xiao ma) and (he ) friends (peng you men).

Or to do it properly 我的小马和朋友们

Wǒ de xiǎo mǎ hé péngyǒumen

I am very bad at tones though :/ I had to look them up >.> I couldn't say it out loud without swearing, most likely :(

The characters are not the same as Japanese for the most part as its simplified Chinese. Which also means its mainland China, not Taiwan...or I think Singapore because I think traditional characters are used there as well.

LM, do you have any scans up on these at all? I know you are selling them so it's a cheeky question, but it would be so much fun to try to read just a bit of it...

My Mandarin is very basic but it would be fun :/
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: LadyMoondancer on October 03, 2018, 01:59:39 PM
And actually, thinking about it, I don't think it's uncommon to have a TV show in several countries and its related toys only available in some of those countries.

Like MLP Tales being shown in the US and none of the toys being sold here . . . What a world! :P

The Chinese books have a foreword that, according to Google Translate, says:

"This album is based on an American series of cartoons of the same name.  The story depicts a group of happy, cute, magical, and brave pony angels.  Under the leadership of friend Megan they are united and help each other against all kinds of sinister and insidious attacks from the bad guys, tenaciously defending their sacred territory--the pony kingdom.  The story is magical, thrilling, vivid, and cute, and the pictures are beautiful."

Even though the book has "1994" on it, I wonder if it is really from around 1997-ish . . . The pictures are clearly traced from screenshots from the show, so I'm thinking maybe they got ahold of the MLP & Friends boxed DVD set that was available during G2.  Which would also explain why RaMC and EfC get entries, because they were 'extras' on that DVD set.

I am very bad at tones though :/ I had to look them up >.> I couldn't say it out loud without swearing, most likely :(

Hmm, we'll just replace all the swear words with "apple juice"! :P

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The characters are not the same as Japanese for the most part as its simplified Chinese. Which also means its mainland China, not Taiwan...or I think Singapore because I think traditional characters are used there as well.

LM, do you have any scans up on these at all? I know you are selling them so it's a cheeky question, but it would be so much fun to try to read just a bit of it...

My Mandarin is very basic but it would be fun :/

I scanned all of them but won't be posting any pics until the books sell, lol.  But I do have some random pages from the auction, don't know how clearly you can read them:

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Okay, those probably aren't readable but the pictures are fun too.  The pink bushwoolie in the last pic has Seen Too Much.l
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2018, 02:16:05 PM
Aside from the fact the spine mentions some kind of Chinese national publishing company...not much! XD

Apple juice! Yes.

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Like MLP Tales being shown in the US and none of the toys being sold here . . . What a world! :P
Glory. Medley. Moondancer. Powder. Need I continue? :P
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: CinnamonOnions on October 03, 2018, 03:17:59 PM
This is a really interesting topic! The pony distribution of eastern and central Europe, as well as Asia, is a large mystery. I'd be interested to know more too. It would indeed make sense that there were no ponies in the countries currently at war or connected to the Soviet Union then, but Russia is a mystery. I quess I should ask can we go thrifting near the border some year, when we last did I noticed an influence of russian imports there. So finding for example ponies not sold in Scandinavia but in other parts of Europe there could give some hints.
  Also poverty wouldn't be that big of a limit for pony distribution, cheap licenced ponies after all made their way to even Colombia, and some better ones to Mexico. Venezuela apparently was more stable then so not counting it.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 03:38:11 PM
  Also poverty wouldn't be that big of a limit for pony distribution, cheap licenced ponies after all made their way to even Colombia, and some better ones to Mexico. Venezuela apparently was more stable then so not counting it.

Do we know anything about the price points for Columbian or Venezuelan ponies or how affordable they were to the general population?
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Shaz on October 04, 2018, 01:54:51 AM
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Like MLP Tales being shown in the US and none of the toys being sold here . . . What a world! :P
Glory. Medley. Moondancer. Powder. Need I continue? :P

Just imagine having the cartoon and no ponies at all! :O If I am right in my surmise that Poland and Russia had the cartoon but no ponies, I wonder if they had any fakies?

My latest titbit of European info: I was looking at auctions for some MOC ponies from a seller in Greece (Starlight Babies and Playschool Babies), and the cards have 'small print' on them in English, Portuguese, Norwegian and Greek. A surprising combination, given how far apart those countries are geographically.

I've also been looking at Hungarian eBay equivalents. I've seen G3, G3 Ponyville, G3.5, tons of G4 of course, MLP n Friends on VHS, MLP n Friends and MLP Tales on DVD, and one solitary G1 pony (Hopscotch). Another Hungarian site had some finished auctions for G1 ponies - Pony Bride, a Drink n Wet baby, Baby Half Note (not BBE), Daddy Apple Delight, Fancy Pants Baby, Snowflake, Parasol, Baby Cotton Candy, a Rainbow Curl pony - but because they were sold items I wasn't able to check if they came from Hungary or a nearby country.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: katrine2309 on October 04, 2018, 02:22:16 AM
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Like MLP Tales being shown in the US and none of the toys being sold here . . . What a world! :P
Glory. Medley. Moondancer. Powder. Need I continue? :P

Just imagine having the cartoon and no ponies at all! :O If I am right in my surmise that Poland and Russia had the cartoon but no ponies, I wonder if they had any fakies?

My latest titbit of European info: I was looking at auctions for some MOC ponies from a seller in Greece (Starlight Babies and Playschool Babies), and the cards have 'small print' on them in English, Portuguese, Norwegian and Greek. An unlikely combination, given how far apart those countries are geographically.

Hmmm, that is weird! Are you sure it is Norwegian and not Danish? I’ve never ever seen anything translated in Norwegian instead of Danish or Swedish....

Edit: and never ever anything MLP. We had all our backcards in English...
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Shaz on October 04, 2018, 02:32:16 AM

Hmmm, that is weird! Are you sure it is Norwegian and not Danish? I’ve never ever seen anything translated in Norwegian instead of Danish or Swedish....

Edit: and never ever anything MLP. We had all our backcards in English...

Here's a picture: https://imgur.com/a/trNxNKQ
It's only the bit telling you not to give it to children under 3, the interesting bits of the backcard that tell you about the ponies are all in English.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: katrine2309 on October 04, 2018, 02:55:05 AM

Hmmm, that is weird! Are you sure it is Norwegian and not Danish? I’ve never ever seen anything translated in Norwegian instead of Danish or Swedish....

Edit: and never ever anything MLP. We had all our backcards in English...

Here's a picture: https://imgur.com/a/trNxNKQ
It's only the bit telling you not to give it to children under 3, the interesting bits of the backcard that tell you about the ponies are all in English.

Thanks!! That is Danish though, which makes much more sense :P
Norway has been more like a little brother compared to Denmark and Sweden for many, many years. Afterall, we were ruled by Denmark for 400 years and right after that we were given (yes, given :lol: ) to Sweden for almost 100 years. We didn’t get our independence again until 1905, and still then we were actually one of the most poor countries in Europe. It wasn’t until decades after we found oil in the North Sea that we «grew-up», and in the 80’s we were still like a «little brother». Definetely not an important enough language to be translated to foreign products.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Shaz on October 04, 2018, 03:21:28 AM
Thanks for pointing out it's Danish! So many things I need to double-check :blush:.

If I do ever manage to put together a website about European ponies, I wonder if I might track down some experts on pony distribution in certain countries to contribute overviews of pony history in their country.... Hmm, so many (probably over ambitious!) ideas and plans!
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: katrine2309 on October 04, 2018, 03:39:52 AM
Thanks for pointing out it's Danish! So many things I need to double-check :blush:.

If I do ever manage to put together a website about European ponies, I wonder if I might track down some experts on pony distribution in certain countries to contribute overviews of pony history in their country.... Hmm, so many (probably over ambitious!) ideas and plans!

No worries! They are very similar after all ;) I’m impressed you recognized it as a Scandinavian language. Not sure many would have been able to do that!

I would love to find someone who could tell me anything official on pony distribution in Norway, especially the early years! And I think it’s good to have ambitions!
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Taffeta on October 04, 2018, 03:54:42 AM
A lot of the cards in the Classic Collection/Baby Collection releases (and possibly all the ones in the "Post US" release dark pink cards have multiple languages and Hasbro addresses in the small print as far as I remember. Not as many as now, but it isn't as surprising as all of that.

I actually know nothing about G1 in Portugal at all, so I can't comment on that, but I think the reason those languages are there, even though they seem to be so diversely located, is that those places all had packages in English.

With the Classic Collection/Baby Collection cards, there are French, Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch (maybe Dutch/French? Can't remember) versions I think of all the same cards or boxes. So those languages wouldn't be on the English card as they aren't being distributed in those areas. Portuguese is really the only surprising one.

I probably have some examples but I am not sure if that part of the card in my photos is legible enough to check what other translated cards did. I have to go campus in a minute but I'll check quickly and if not, I'll have a proper look later.

Edit to add: Unfortunately it looks like the ones I have are in boxes in other languages and the information about safety is not on the back of the box but on the base which I don't have images of. So I'm not that helpful :(

 The only ones I have on card are German carded watercolor sea ponies.
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Seems to be all in German to me...
I also found Cherry Sweet on German card but the image isn't great. I think she's also all German.

Edit to add...I noticed that it isn't all the Classic Collection after all. My Cherry Treats' card (1990, first year of Classic Collection) only has text in English, so this must have begun in 1991...
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: CinnamonOnions on October 04, 2018, 04:37:09 AM
  Also poverty wouldn't be that big of a limit for pony distribution, cheap licenced ponies after all made their way to even Colombia, and some better ones to Mexico. Venezuela apparently was more stable then so not counting it.

Do we know anything about the price points for Columbian or Venezuelan ponies or how affordable they were to the general population?

Nope. Though I assume mexicans were pretty affordable, since they don't seem to be that rare at all. I know a site that has a scan of a colombian toy catalogue with ponies in it, but the picture is too blurry to read.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Leikin on October 04, 2018, 06:36:02 AM
This is so fun! 30 years later, and we are still digging for information for G1s. That they are still raising so much questions and interest, and there are still so much we dont know about them. That is really a fun part of collecting, that you learn new things all the time, even if you have been collecting for ages ^.^

Thanks for pointing out it's Danish! So many things I need to double-check :blush:.

If I do ever manage to put together a website about European ponies, I wonder if I might track down some experts on pony distribution in certain countries to contribute overviews of pony history in their country.... Hmm, so many (probably over ambitious!) ideas and plans!

No worries! They are very similar after all ;) I’m impressed you recognized it as a Scandinavian language. Not sure many would have been able to do that!

For me, danish and norwegian in writing are pretty much the same, although norwegian is easier to understand then danish most of the time, when spoken :P

We didnt get much translated here either. Denmark seems to have got a lot of translated cards (or "a lot compared to Sweden/Norway). I have actually ever only seen one blp box which was actually printed with swedish text, and not just with a sticker on it, and that is Megan and Sundance. Oh, how I wish to get hold of that one!!  :help:
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Shaz on October 04, 2018, 11:26:21 AM
The history of pony distribution is certainly fascinating....and often frustrating! :lol:
I've been Googling in multiple languages and looking through eBay-type sites in search of more information. I can't believe how much G4 I've seen, it's everywhere!

Anyway, here's my summaries so far. Of course some of it is just conjecture, so feel free to correct me if necessary.

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These European countries had G1 ponies: Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UK.

These countries had the MLP n Friends cartoon, and may also have had other media such as the film, comics, books, but do not seem to have had any toys: Poland, Russia, Czech Republic and Slovakia, Lithuania, possibly Bulgaria.
The movie exists in Bulgarian, but I haven't been able to find out when it was released there.
It is possible that the Russian dub was also shown in Belarus and Ukraine.

I found a list online (only on a Wikipedia type site, "fullwiki" I think, so not sure how much faith can be put into it) claiming that MLP n Friends was translated into the following languages: Chinese, Czech, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese(?!), Lithuanian, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Swedish. I have definitely seen bits of it in Czech, Greek, Hungarian and Russian.

These countries probably had no G1 ponies: Albania, Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia, Slovenia.

These countries I don't know about yet, but I have my doubts about them having G1 ponies: Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine.

My main interest is in G1, but I've been seeing other gens around too, and have reached the following conclusions, which, again, I'm up for being corrected on if necessary:

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European countries that had G2 ponies: Austria(?), Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UK.

European countries that had G3 ponies: Austria, Belgium, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Macedonia, Montenegro, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Serbia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UK.
Belarus MAY have had G3: I've seen a lot of G3 style fakies and some merch which looks genuine. Ukraine seems to have had a similar situation, this may be the gen that Taffeta remembers a Russian collector saying they had to import from Ukraine, but that's really just guesswork.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: banditpony on October 04, 2018, 02:00:56 PM
  Also poverty wouldn't be that big of a limit for pony distribution, cheap licenced ponies after all made their way to even Colombia, and some better ones to Mexico. Venezuela apparently was more stable then so not counting it.

Do we know anything about the price points for Columbian or Venezuelan ponies or how affordable they were to the general population?

Nope. Though I assume mexicans were pretty affordable, since they don't seem to be that rare at all. I know a site that has a scan of a colombian toy catalogue with ponies in it, but the picture is too blurry to read.

Please don't assume things then if you have nothing to base it off of. :/
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: CinnamonOnions on October 04, 2018, 03:52:04 PM
  Also poverty wouldn't be that big of a limit for pony distribution, cheap licenced ponies after all made their way to even Colombia, and some better ones to Mexico. Venezuela apparently was more stable then so not counting it.

Do we know anything about the price points for Columbian or Venezuelan ponies or how affordable they were to the general population?

Nope. Though I assume mexicans were pretty affordable, since they don't seem to be that rare at all. I know a site that has a scan of a colombian toy catalogue with ponies in it, but the picture is too blurry to read.

Please don't assume things then if you have nothing to base it off of. :/

With these things we often can only assume. Mexico as far as I know wasn't even back then all that welle conomicaly, so toys that there seems to be a fair amount of still around by sense probably can not have been too expensive. I know it's only a quess. I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Rhaegar on October 04, 2018, 04:49:21 PM
I can't help much with the other countries, but in the early 90s I had relatives in Hungary send me ponies in the mail. I received a Baby Alphabet on an English language card with the normal comb, nothing unusual to note. The year after I received a Vanilla Treat (with proper accessories and the normal pamphlet) in an English language Hairdo Ponies box. The MIB Beautiful Bows on the Wiki is exact same box, I would assume it was a reject/error? Besides mountains of fakies and G2s when they came out, the only other pony of note they ever sent me (out of package) was a Baby Honeycomb.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Taffeta on October 04, 2018, 05:02:22 PM
I can't help much with the other countries, but in the early 90s I had relatives in Hungary send me ponies in the mail. The year after I received a Vanilla Treat (with proper accessories and the normal pamphlet) in an English language Hairdo Ponies box.

...You have my attention. How the heck did that happen? Very weird but very cool.

As for assumptions - I think there's assuming blind and then there's building a hypothesis based on likely information. Which with some of these may be as much as we can do (but right now Shaz is only theorising, it's not a concrete website yet). So I guess it depends how much is all right to assume or conjecture and how much has to be hard fact.

<--Mediaevalist. ;)
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: banditpony on October 04, 2018, 05:46:03 PM
  Also poverty wouldn't be that big of a limit for pony distribution, cheap licenced ponies after all made their way to even Colombia, and some better ones to Mexico. Venezuela apparently was more stable then so not counting it.

Do we know anything about the price points for Columbian or Venezuelan ponies or how affordable they were to the general population?

Nope. Though I assume mexicans were pretty affordable, since they don't seem to be that rare at all. I know a site that has a scan of a colombian toy catalogue with ponies in it, but the picture is too blurry to read.

Please don't assume things then if you have nothing to base it off of. :/

With these things we often can only assume. Mexico as far as I know wasn't even back then all that welle conomicaly, so toys that there seems to be a fair amount of still around by sense probably can not have been too expensive. I know it's only a quess. I'm sorry.

No. Assuming gets us the wrong idea. We live in a aworld where we are all connected by the internet, and there's people who can chime in their experience.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Rhaegar on October 04, 2018, 06:51:26 PM
I can't help much with the other countries, but in the early 90s I had relatives in Hungary send me ponies in the mail. The year after I received a Vanilla Treat (with proper accessories and the normal pamphlet) in an English language Hairdo Ponies box.

...You have my attention. How the heck did that happen? Very weird but very cool.

No clue. She had her apron and comb as normal, so maybe they just had a few extra boxes and extra ponies and hacked them together? Those were the only two they ever sent me new in package and besides being purchased in Budapest I don't have any other information.

Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Taffeta on October 04, 2018, 09:43:43 PM
It reminds me of the wacky princesses and their cobbled together stuff and boxes. Maybe it was a case of that...leftover pony + leftover box...still really interesting.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Shaz on October 05, 2018, 01:42:35 AM
Rhaegar, thanks so much for chipping in with some Hungarian information! So they had G2 there as well? *updating my notes* It certainly seems as if they had some interesting ponies. Baby Honeycomb! Vanilla Treat in a Hairdo Ponies box! Given the sparsity of ponies on second-hand Hungarian websites, I'm toying with the theory that ponies were present in Hungary but perhaps not widely distributed; maybe they were only in shops in Budapest and other large towns/cities.

I have to admit that I have a stack of theories and hypotheses and I really wouldn't want anyone to take what I have to say as the gospel truth! I've only just begun my researches. I fully expect to get corrected on things! I try to build conjectures based on what is known; if my speculations cause someone to say, "That's not true, this is what actually happened" that's all to the good! Obviously if I get to the making-a-website stage I would have a much tougher criteria for what could be included.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: BrightLight on October 05, 2018, 10:53:07 AM
I'm from Budapest and the majority of ponies that most European countries had were available here. I'm also pretty sure that the alternate birthflower ponies were available here as well, because I used to find them regularly at the flea market.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: katrine2309 on October 05, 2018, 01:11:46 PM
I'm from Budapest and the majority of ponies that most European countries had were available here. I'm also pretty sure that the alternate birthflower ponies were available here as well, because I used to find them regularly at the flea market.

Oooh! Really? That is super excisting! I never heard that the alt.birthflowers were sold anywhere else than Denmark and Australia! Hmm, which countries do you think about when you say majority of Europe though? From my knowledge the European releases were a little all over the place and there are quite a lot of ponies that are exclusive to just a few countries. Someone mentioned baby Honeycomb? Do you remember if that baby set were sold in Hungary?
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Shaz on October 06, 2018, 02:36:32 AM
Katrine, you've asked all the questions about Hungary that I want to know the answers to as well :)

My Little Wiki says on their G1 distribution page that European ponies are known to have been sold in Poland :O
So there goes my theory of no ponies in Poland, although I would of course like more detailed information/proof.

In other European pony news (straying far far away from Eastern Europe!), I have bought myself a set of G1 Portuguese stickers on eBay. For research of course :) They're from 1987/8, and have pictures of various ponies with their names in Portuguese. There's a summary of Escape for Catrina on the back of them. Very intriguing.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: bladed on October 06, 2018, 03:18:54 AM
The history of pony distribution is certainly fascinating....and often frustrating! :lol:
I've been Googling in multiple languages and looking through eBay-type sites in search of more information. I can't believe how much G4 I've seen, it's everywhere!

Anyway, here's my summaries so far. Of course some of it is just conjecture, so feel free to correct me if necessary.

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These European countries had G1 ponies: Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UK.

These countries had the MLP n Friends cartoon, and may also have had other media such as the film, comics, books, but do not seem to have had any toys: Poland, Russia, Czech Republic and Slovakia, Lithuania, possibly Bulgaria.
The movie exists in Bulgarian, but I haven't been able to find out when it was released there.
It is possible that the Russian dub was also shown in Belarus and Ukraine.

I found a list online (only on a Wikipedia type site, "fullwiki" I think, so not sure how much faith can be put into it) claiming that MLP n Friends was translated into the following languages: Chinese, Czech, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese(?!), Lithuanian, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Swedish. I have definitely seen bits of it in Czech, Greek, Hungarian and Russian.

These countries probably had no G1 ponies: Albania, Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia, Slovenia.

These countries I don't know about yet, but I have my doubts about them having G1 ponies: Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine.

My main interest is in G1, but I've been seeing other gens around too, and have reached the following conclusions, which, again, I'm up for being corrected on if necessary:

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European countries that had G2 ponies: Austria(?), Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UK.

European countries that had G3 ponies: Austria, Belgium, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Macedonia, Montenegro, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Serbia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UK.
Belarus MAY have had G3: I've seen a lot of G3 style fakies and some merch which looks genuine. Ukraine seems to have had a similar situation, this may be the gen that Taffeta remembers a Russian collector saying they had to import from Ukraine, but that's really just guesswork.
that japanese part intrigued me... but i can't find anything on it! only fan subtitled ones (english audio track, i ). do you have a link to this page? looking into fullwiki, it claims to be a wikipedia alternative for research with sources (or similar, i haven't actually looked at it in a couple of days) the other language claims are interesting too, but that part in particular jumped out at me (for probably obvious reasons)

sorry for running away from the main topic here a bit - i actually don't know a lot about european releases in general for most gens, so this thread is extra fascinating, hah... though when the japanese g4 came out, i was following that and related events.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Taffeta on October 06, 2018, 04:07:52 AM
I've also never heard of G1 animation being actually aired in Japan in Japanese. G4 was, but not G1.

(Japan in spoilers as it is somewhat OT)
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When we were kids, and my mother was teaching Japanese businessmen and sometimes their wives, my sister and I often played with the kids. At least one of them was mad keen on ponies. She was the same age as my sister, so she'd be 31 now. The general consensus from the mothers of these kids was that there was no MLP in Japan. They didn't know about Takara either, but then given the age of this kid, she would've been too young anyway. But while there is a glut of G1 and G3 ponies up for sale on second hand sites like the Yahoo auctions, that has to be taken with a pinch of salt. A lot of Japanese families spend extended periods in other countries due to the business of mostly father (occasionally mother). One of my mother's former students lived here for four years, then in Texas, and is now back in Japan. The family I mention above were here for a spell of about 5 years, then went to China, and are now back in Japan (I spent some time with them when I was over there last year, and they've relocated around Japan as well since then).

So it's really quite normal for Japanese kids to pick up foreign toys and take them back. Maybe also foreign VHS, and an interest in G1. But I am not aware of there being any natively Japanese attempt to produce or transmit this stuff. I can understand why there'd be a G1 fandom in Japan, but I don't think it came from Japan. If that makes any sense at all!

And this really isn't Europe, but when I first had the Takara leaflet scans sent to me in around 1998 or 1999, I did try to find out if there was anything else. And since I learned Japanese, I have kept my eyes open - but I haven't seen anything like the Chinese books LM posted above.

It's not impossible and I would love to be proven wrong. But I feel like G1 interest in Japan came from outside in because of the way Japanese business works. Before the bubble burst, Japan was very economically viable and so a lot of Japanese companies and individuals ended up abroad. I feel like it's more likely a symptom of diaspora than anything else.

When I was in Japan there wasn't even anything G4 except the odd plush and some Pez toys. I saw Monster High in the second hand stores, but I didn't see MLP. I know MLP has been found there, but mostly in Tokyo, I think - I was in Kansai and mostly Kyoto, and I didn't see anything.
*pretends Japan is now in Europe* XD

Regarding the Hungary information - I think the key thing is when did it start over there. We've got a range of dates for other European countries from 1983ish to around 1985. It would be neat to know if Hungary fit into that category.

Finding the BF ponies there is also interesting...in a completely random way. But then Vanilla Treat in a hairdo box is quite random, so.

For the record, we really still don't know even that much about Ireland. Bits and pieces every so often, but not anything properly coherent. Aware that isn't Eastern Europe, but just putting it out there to underscore that we have big European gaps.

And people wonder why I get so annoyed that people have spent 20 years focused only on the US system. Sigh.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Shaz on October 06, 2018, 06:52:09 AM
We have wandered beyond Eastern Europe a bit now, but I really don't mind :).

http://www.thefullwiki.org/My_Little_Pony_%28TV_series%29#Overseas_Editions - Fullwiki's list of MLP n Friends in translation. According to them, the Japanese version was called Kun Dono Sotyou. I did do a bit of a double-take when I saw Japan mentioned! It seems so unlikely that I haven't liked to put too much faith in that list.

Meanwhile, the Polish translation sounds, um, strange: "A single voice artist translated all dialogue, over the still-audible American actors."

Ireland does seem a bit of an unknown. I mean, they had ponies, and that's about all I know so far! I realised earlier that I know more about ponies in Greece than in the country that's right next door to mine :lol:.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: bladed on October 06, 2018, 07:20:40 AM
I've also never heard of G1 animation being actually aired in Japan in Japanese. G4 was, but not G1.

(Japan in spoilers as it is somewhat OT)
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When we were kids, and my mother was teaching Japanese businessmen and sometimes their wives, my sister and I often played with the kids. At least one of them was mad keen on ponies. She was the same age as my sister, so she'd be 31 now. The general consensus from the mothers of these kids was that there was no MLP in Japan. They didn't know about Takara either, but then given the age of this kid, she would've been too young anyway. But while there is a glut of G1 and G3 ponies up for sale on second hand sites like the Yahoo auctions, that has to be taken with a pinch of salt. A lot of Japanese families spend extended periods in other countries due to the business of mostly father (occasionally mother). One of my mother's former students lived here for four years, then in Texas, and is now back in Japan. The family I mention above were here for a spell of about 5 years, then went to China, and are now back in Japan (I spent some time with them when I was over there last year, and they've relocated around Japan as well since then).

So it's really quite normal for Japanese kids to pick up foreign toys and take them back. Maybe also foreign VHS, and an interest in G1. But I am not aware of there being any natively Japanese attempt to produce or transmit this stuff. I can understand why there'd be a G1 fandom in Japan, but I don't think it came from Japan. If that makes any sense at all!

And this really isn't Europe, but when I first had the Takara leaflet scans sent to me in around 1998 or 1999, I did try to find out if there was anything else. And since I learned Japanese, I have kept my eyes open - but I haven't seen anything like the Chinese books LM posted above.

It's not impossible and I would love to be proven wrong. But I feel like G1 interest in Japan came from outside in because of the way Japanese business works. Before the bubble burst, Japan was very economically viable and so a lot of Japanese companies and individuals ended up abroad. I feel like it's more likely a symptom of diaspora than anything else.

When I was in Japan there wasn't even anything G4 except the odd plush and some Pez toys. I saw Monster High in the second hand stores, but I didn't see MLP. I know MLP has been found there, but mostly in Tokyo, I think - I was in Kansai and mostly Kyoto, and I didn't see anything.
*pretends Japan is now in Europe* XD

Regarding the Hungary information - I think the key thing is when did it start over there. We've got a range of dates for other European countries from 1983ish to around 1985. It would be neat to know if Hungary fit into that category.

Finding the BF ponies there is also interesting...in a completely random way. But then Vanilla Treat in a hairdo box is quite random, so.

For the record, we really still don't know even that much about Ireland. Bits and pieces every so often, but not anything properly coherent. Aware that isn't Eastern Europe, but just putting it out there to underscore that we have big European gaps.

And people wonder why I get so annoyed that people have spent 20 years focused only on the US system. Sigh.

i see! i think i've only seen some retro merch from japan, though i don't know if it was imported (i didn't recognise it) but since they have the mlp cafe and pop up shops often it's possible... but that's even further off topic, since it's more related to g4 at that point.
We have wandered beyond Eastern Europe a bit now, but I really don't mind :).

http://www.thefullwiki.org/My_Little_Pony_%28TV_series%29#Overseas_Editions - Fullwiki's list of MLP n Friends in translation. According to them, the Japanese version was called Kun Dono Sotyou. I did do a bit of a double-take when I saw Japan mentioned! It seems so unlikely that I haven't liked to put too much faith in that list.

Meanwhile, the Polish translation sounds, um, strange: "A single voice artist translated all dialogue, over the still-audible American actors."

Ireland does seem a bit of an unknown. I mean, they had ponies, and that's about all I know so far! I realised earlier that I know more about ponies in Greece than in the country that's right next door to mine :lol:.
a quick search shows up with nothing, so it may be worth digging deeper.. i don't think it could be much, but hey, i might find something interesting along the way! i wonder where they pulled that name from... it doesn't have much of anything to do with mlp
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Taffeta on October 06, 2018, 07:33:06 AM
That's also horrible romanisation.

Just saying.

I searched both in English and Japanese with the proper romanisation/in kanji/in kana and hit nothing MLP at all. The search term on that site only shows up that site, absolutely no others, so that doesn't add to it's reliability.

The Hasbro MLP page for Japan also doesn't mention it. It talks about an airing series, not one that's finished, so I guess that's FIM.
http://www.mylittlepony.jp/about/07/index.html
There are pictures of the G1 Rainbows on there but nothing we haven't seen before with retro stuff.

Japan did have some weird retro stuff in the 1990s, like the baby sugarberry keychain...I think that had a rainbow logo reflecting G2 if I remember rightly? It was definitely right at the end of the 1990s.

In any case, I think that any MLP in Japan would've been Mai Ritoru Ponii something. Takara ponies are, and so is FIM, albeit FIM is mai ritoru ponii yuujou wa mahou.

It could be the name of an episode, and it could be the name of an episode from a fansub that someone got the wrong impression of. I am sceptical, but I admit, mostly because I hate people who romanise chou as tyou.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: banditpony on October 06, 2018, 07:37:08 AM
Re:Japan

The girl who sold her childhood takara made a comment about g1s in Japan I thought. I can't recall if they were on a base or what.. but I'm sure someone can dig it up
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: Shaz on October 06, 2018, 07:43:00 AM
I did have my doubts about Kun Dono whatsit, and I don't even know any Japanese!
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: bladed on October 06, 2018, 07:49:33 AM
That's also horrible romanisation.

Just saying.

I searched both in English and Japanese with the proper romanisation/in kanji/in kana and hit nothing MLP at all. The search term on that site only shows up that site, absolutely no others, so that doesn't add to it's reliability.

The Hasbro MLP page for Japan also doesn't mention it. It talks about an airing series, not one that's finished, so I guess that's FIM.
http://www.mylittlepony.jp/about/07/index.html
There are pictures of the G1 Rainbows on there but nothing we haven't seen before with retro stuff.

Japan did have some weird retro stuff in the 1990s, like the baby sugarberry keychain...I think that had a rainbow logo reflecting G2 if I remember rightly? It was definitely right at the end of the 1990s.

In any case, I think that any MLP in Japan would've been Mai Ritoru Ponii something. Takara ponies are, and so is FIM, albeit FIM is mai ritoru ponii yuujou wa mahou.

It could be the name of an episode, and it could be the name of an episode from a fansub that someone got the wrong impression of. I am sceptical, but I admit, mostly because I hate people who romanise chou as tyou.
tomodachi wa mahou ;)

the fansubs i've found just straight up use the english names (on niconico anyway), so if it is from a fansub it's something that doesn't seem to be around anymore. i can't even think of what episode title it would be a translation of? maybe a fansub group, but i can't think of much else.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: banditpony on October 06, 2018, 10:30:55 AM
Here in my mind I had an idea of a fansub/dub on a VHS...
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: bladed on October 06, 2018, 11:50:28 AM
Here in my mind I had an idea of a fansub/dub on a VHS...
ah, don't know why that didn't cross my mind since i've encountered many from america and such... i feel like the videos i found have gone through an amount of reuploading, or were fetched from a lower quality source, because even the highest quality uploads had a visible fuzz around the subtitles (i'd expect the video itself not to be great quality yeah, but the subtitles themselves like i said looked lower quality, and usually i see a contrast between the quality of the subs and the video if older stuff is subtitled, but i also could be talking rubbish)

but back to the point... i didn't look that much into it... but i didn't see much in the little time i searched. if this was a thing and there was discussion online then it's limited to maybe like, small forums which i didn't look at...
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: banditpony on October 06, 2018, 03:39:09 PM
Here in my mind I had an idea of a fansub/dub on a VHS...
ah, don't know why that didn't cross my mind since i've encountered many from america and such... i feel like the videos i found have gone through an amount of reuploading, or were fetched from a lower quality source, because even the highest quality uploads had a visible fuzz around the subtitles (i'd expect the video itself not to be great quality yeah, but the subtitles themselves like i said looked lower quality, and usually i see a contrast between the quality of the subs and the video if older stuff is subtitled, but i also could be talking rubbish)

but back to the point... i didn't look that much into it... but i didn't see much in the little time i searched. if this was a thing and there was discussion online then it's limited to maybe like, small forums which i didn't look at...

Ah I meant that I feel like whatever what distributed back in the 80/90s was on VHS and probably didn't make its way to the internet. (as by now, they could just rip a DVD and place subs on).
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Taffeta on October 07, 2018, 04:58:28 AM
Here in my mind I had an idea of a fansub/dub on a VHS...
ah, don't know why that didn't cross my mind since i've encountered many from america and such... i feel like the videos i found have gone through an amount of reuploading, or were fetched from a lower quality source, because even the highest quality uploads had a visible fuzz around the subtitles (i'd expect the video itself not to be great quality yeah, but the subtitles themselves like i said looked lower quality, and usually i see a contrast between the quality of the subs and the video if older stuff is subtitled, but i also could be talking rubbish)

but back to the point... i didn't look that much into it... but i didn't see much in the little time i searched. if this was a thing and there was discussion online then it's limited to maybe like, small forums which i didn't look at...

Ah I meant that I feel like whatever what distributed back in the 80/90s was on VHS and probably didn't make its way to the internet. (as by now, they could just rip a DVD and place subs on).


That's a good possibility, actually. Because that was a thing back before it became much easier (I never saw any material like that but I have heard about them.) I think you might have hit it.

Like Bladed, I can't think of a specific episode for which that would be a title, but I guess it could be the Prince & the Pony? Or Wouldbe Dragonslayer? It's still quite vague but meh.

@Bladed - tomodachi wa mahou, is it? I don't watch FIM in any language, so I knew I'd seen the subtitle in Japanese somewhere but I just assumed it was yuujou because yuujou is friendship. I guess in Japanese friends are magic? xD

In any case, I think that wiki info is bogus. And I know there are different ways to romanise Japanese. But I'm sorry. tyou for chou just rubs me up the wrong way.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: bladed on October 07, 2018, 06:15:01 AM
Ah I meant that I feel like whatever what distributed back in the 80/90s was on VHS and probably didn't make its way to the internet. (as by now, they could just rip a DVD and place subs on).
woops >_<

taffeta, yup! the concept of friends itself is magic, lol... (also, FiM isn't currently airing in japan last i checked - only the first two seasons aired, starting in 2013, so i don't know why the website says that unless they just never update it, or include reruns)

as a side note - the uploader doesn't have many episodes, so... i also noticed some oddities in the translations (at least from the perspective of an english speaker? mostly with colloquial stuff i'd say) so the title on fullwiki may be from an old, maybe a bit wonky translation, or a misreading? (can't think of anything off the top of my head though) too many possibilities lol.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Taffeta on October 07, 2018, 06:27:19 AM
Ah I meant that I feel like whatever what distributed back in the 80/90s was on VHS and probably didn't make its way to the internet. (as by now, they could just rip a DVD and place subs on).
woops >_<

taffeta, yup! the concept of friends itself is magic, lol... (also, FiM isn't currently airing in japan - only the first two seasons aired, starting in 2013, so i don't know why the website says that unless they just never update it)

It's dated 2015 but I don't suppose airing in Japan matters as the text says it is airing across the world. Present tense. Which is true. It doesn't mention Japan specifically in any way at all. Which is quite clever really, keeping the platform alive in case they want to use it again without telling any fibs...

Also, Mahou (no) Tomodachi actually makes more sense to me in that case >.> Let's have some Magical Friends, as an extension of Mahou Shoujo! Yay!

This has got way off topic now, though. Back to Europe...;)
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: LadyMoondancer on October 07, 2018, 06:32:54 AM
Meanwhile, the Polish translation sounds, um, strange: "A single voice artist translated all dialogue, over the still-audible American actors."


That sounds AMAZING.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? G1, G2, G3
Post by: BrightLight on October 07, 2018, 11:57:46 AM
I'm from Budapest and the majority of ponies that most European countries had were available here. I'm also pretty sure that the alternate birthflower ponies were available here as well, because I used to find them regularly at the flea market.

Oooh! Really? That is super excisting! I never heard that the alt.birthflowers were sold anywhere else than Denmark and Australia! Hmm, which countries do you think about when you say majority of Europe though? From my knowledge the European releases were a little all over the place and there are quite a lot of ponies that are exclusive to just a few countries. Someone mentioned baby Honeycomb? Do you remember if that baby set were sold in Hungary?

Unfortunately I don't remember too much, because I was very young and more into dolls back then, but I remember seeing these in stores:
Princesses with dragons, Sunshine Ponies, Merry Go Round Ponies, Dance 'n Prance, Glitter Sweetheart Sisters, Bridal Beauty & Pony Bride, Rainbow Curl Ponies, Tropical Ponies (Pina Colada is the most common pony here), Rocking Beat Ponies, Precious Pockets, Cookery Ponies, Flower Ponies, Schooltime Ponies & Schoolhouse

I don't remember anything about Baby Honeycomb, but I have one from the flea market and I also have two Baby Cherries Jubilees (one from flea market and one from a childhood collection), so it is possible that they were available here.

I assume these were sold here as well, since they are relatively common in the second hand market:
Peachy & Lemondrop (both very common), first and second edition of Rainbow Ponies, alt. Birthflowers, Baby Ponies (Baby Cotton Candy, Baby Glory & Baby Moondancer are very common), Earth Ponies (Cherries Jubilee and Posey are the more common ones), Baby Cuddles, Baby Tiddley Winks, First Tooth Babies, Sweetberry Ponies (my friend has Boysenberry Pie and she says she got her from a toystore here), Baby Fancy Pants, Snowflake, Hopscotch, some of the Newborn Twins, Newborns, Loving Family, Drink 'n Wet, Merry Treat, Glow 'N Show, Rainbow Babies, Baby Ballerinas, Secret Surprise, Teeny Tiny Babies, Birthday Pony, Starlight Babies, Rollerskate Ponies, Sweet Kisses, Good Weather, Sweet Clover, Family Friends

These are somewhat rarer, but I have some from flea markets and I think it's possible that they were sold here:
Collector Ponies, Sundance, Flutters, Twinkle Eyes, some of the Big Brothers, Honeycomb, Gypsy, Twice as Fancy Ponies from year 5, Brush 'n Grow, Sundae Best, Flower Sweetheart Sisters, Windy Wings, Candy Cane, Talking Ponies (English and German), Tutti Frutti, Princess Sparkle, Hairdo Ponies, Romance Ponies, Best Friends Babies, Bedtime Newborns

I also found these here but they are less common and I'm not sure how they ended up here:
some ponies from the Slumber Party Set, German Rainbow Ponies (my guess is that they were bought in Austria and Germany), Baby Blubberchen, Baby Lollipop, a few Dutch ponies, some Italians

We had 4 TV commercials, one for the Sunshine ponies which you probably saw here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUe0rwgQ4NI

There's another one, it starts at 2:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkg_QZelzxs
I don't know, I never saw Surprise or Skyflier anywhere for sale in Hungary and the commercial is from 1991. :shrug:

I can't find the other two commercials, but those were for Merry Go Round Ponies and the Schoolhouse.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Taffeta on October 07, 2018, 01:54:02 PM
That is so interesting. It sounds like maybe Hungary got a mixture of the things that were out in different parts of Europe.

I also wonder how many of the "German" ponies actually came to Hungary via Austria.

I just wonder in what time frame this happened, and whether all these ponies appeared simultaneously or over an extended period from the early 1980s. It does sound like a pretty decent range and European mix of ponies :D The early pony commercial being from 1991 makes me wonder if maybe stuff arrived in a different order over there.

The fact you mention Slumber Party ponies is also interesting to me. The UK had some of these in weird distribution in around 1995-1996. We found one of the twins at the carboot sale and had no idea who she was. Since then I found Baby NightCap in a mostly boxed...I think Spanish language kitchen set...and then at the local market in 1996ish we found Pink Dreams and the other twin - both in clear plastic bags with a grey cardboard label with just the rainbow on and My little pony, nothing else. Pink Dreams had her wings attached to a piece of cardboard. I had no idea who she was either, as she wasn't officially sold here, so I called her Kitty xD. It sounds as though maybe something similar might have happened over there...

Pillow Talk is the only one I've never heard of being found wild in the UK, which suggests that all the others were ditched over here separately, not with the set. I've found all the others. Some multiple times. But never Pillow Talk and never any of the accessories.

Some of the ponies who are less common second hand over there may have travelled, though. I have found a bunch of ponies here which definitely didn't get sold here, and Europe is quite a fluid place for pony travel, especially since the 1990s.

Commercial is so cute. Sunshine pony one shows US sold ponies, but that doens't necessarily mean anything. Theme is the same as in the US except for the language...but again, that happened here too...

Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Shaz on October 08, 2018, 02:13:32 AM
BrightLight, thank you so much for all that information! I'm still processing it all! Every so often I go "they had Princesses with dragons in Hungary!" or "Gypsy has been found second-hand in Hungary!" :lol: The adverts are cute too.

Ponies do seem to have migrated about a bit, which does make sorting out European releases rather complicated, especially 20-30 years later! I had wondered if some ponies came into Hungary from Austria and/or Germany.

I'm currently in search of info regarding Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia, and Lithuania!
* Poland had the cartoon and My Little Wiki is telling me they had European ponies too. I want to know which ponies they had (I'm starting to think 'European' is a bit of a vague term....). And I want to see the weird Polish cartoon with only one voice actor!
* I have seen the cartoon in Czech but am not sure if Czechoslovakia (as it was until 1989, I think) had any G1 ponies.
* The unreliable fullwiki list says that MLP n Friends was translated into Lithuanian. This page (http://einhornbaby.contract-killers.de/wissenswertes.htm) also mentions MLP as existing in Czech and Lithuanian. I'd like to know more! I have seen so much G4 and G3 while looking up about Lithuanian ponies. They did at least have some cute G3 activity and story books published by Egmont, genuine G3 ponies, and some oddly cute G3.5 fakies which I think were probably imported from Russia. But of course I want to know about G1!
* And I still have nothing at all about Latvia and Estonia. I have a tentative idea that finding out about Lithuania might provide some clues.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Taffeta on October 08, 2018, 02:48:11 AM
My Little Wiki is telling me they had European ponies too. I want to know which ponies they had (I'm starting to think 'European' is a bit of a vague term....).

It is absolutely a vague term, because it seems like most European countries had some distinction from one another in the release. But because the internet sees these things as binary (it used to be US = UK, now US = Europe or EU) a lot of that distinction has been lost to time. The further we get from release the harder it is to put together that evidence, and it may well be that there are some things we won't ever get to know now. :/

Einhornbaby may come and comment on the Czech and Lithuanian.

When we had Lithuanian exchange students stay with us in the 1990s, neither of them knew about MLP. But that's two people from a whole country (both were girls though)! so it might not mean anything. It was pretty unusual back then to have a school exchange with Lithuania anyway.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: banditpony on October 08, 2018, 04:01:40 AM
. And I want to see the weird Polish cartoon with only one voice actor!


TBH I imagine its created the same way these are.
http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/chuck-norris-vs-communism/
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Shaz on October 12, 2018, 08:22:34 AM
Hi everyone, I'm still pegging away at my European MLP history :)
I've been writing up some of my findings, and have written summaries for Austria, Belarus, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Lithuania, Poland, Portugal, Russia and former Yugoslavia, which I'll hopefully copy n paste on here at some point for those interested.

If you have more to say on European pony subjects, feel free to say it :) If not, just consider this a friendly update on what Shaz is up to these days :lol:
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: allymer on October 14, 2018, 02:51:04 AM
Unfortunately my Israeli friend is now back in Israel, so less easy for me to poke about stuff. I am not sure about the timeline, but I know from what she told me/remembered from her collection which she still has, she had the Apple Delight Family (Mum, Dad, Sister), SS Shady, and a winger...I think we decided it was a Windy Wing but I forget which one. She also told me a lot of these shows got to Israel a bit later. It sounds to me from what she said that the ponies they had were mostly from the US, so Powder makes sense, probably on US card.

The only Hebrew I can read is 'Shalom' and when I was over there I could make out signs that said Jerusalem while she was driving. Which isn't helpful for ponies.

hey guys. i'm from Israel and been here at the MLPARENA for the past 10-15 years also collecting for over 20 years so.
i wrote about israel ponies before :) maybe i should try a segment for the Nirvana forum?
i searched the country all wide throughout those years and have the knowledge about how pony things were handle here...

fun fact- you could find all kinds of ponies in israelian stores back in the G1 - UK/US/ITALY/SPAIN are the more common, a lot of NC...

im in the middle of my job time so later on ill look for pictures and fact i collected through the years
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Taffeta on October 14, 2018, 01:07:04 PM
@ allymer I hoped you would see this and post. Really interested to know more about ponies over there!!!
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Shaz on October 15, 2018, 02:07:35 AM
@allymer, ponies in Israel sound totally fascinating, I hope you get a chance to put together some pictures and facts for us to look at! :)
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: allymer on October 15, 2018, 05:55:26 AM
@ allymer I hoped you would see this and post. Really interested to know more about ponies over there!!!
@allymer, ponies in Israel sound totally fascinating, I hope you get a chance to put together some pictures and facts for us to look at! :)

hello guys i manage to write some... i hope you find the information informative you can help by asking questions. im away from my own computre but when i can ill add some pic for fun.

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In Israel everything arrive a little bit later- so with ponies
 the years ponies were sold in Israel vary – some sets were sold in Israel later than in other countries.
Although some rumors from 15 years ago- there were NO Hasbro factories in Israel so there were no stamped or unique ponies for the country.
Alas there are many variation of ponies importing from all over the world- ponies sold in Israel were range from UK/US and some foreign
My first pony was as early as 1991 – it was Spain stamped Hopscotch- I got it MOC.
I guess Israel did have the first line of MLP can't find evidence either way but its ok to assume the Year One – 1982-1983 ponies were sold in Israel.
Year 2 – 1983-1984
We had most of the ponies in this line
Including the Show-Stable with Lemon Drop.
I've never seen sea ponies nor adult or babies in the country in my many years of collecting.
And sure – no MO ponies.
Year 3- 1984-1985- Year 4- 1985-1986
Again most of the ponies were sold in Israel- including lullabye nursery with baby tiddly winks.
Rainbow and Unicorn/Peg from those sets were sold in Israel from US/UK and many NC stamped.
Year 5-7- 1986-1989
So Soft ponies were sold here with most of the other ponies in those years; including the slumber party gift pack.
Princess ponies were UK sold in the country with dragons.
We had loving families – all sets MIB
My Apple Delight was with Mom from China and dad NC it goes vise versa and on…
You can find the NC vs China adult ponies
We had all 3 baby siblings, sold moc, in stores.

Year 8-10- 1989-1992
Baby Sparkle Ponies-
We had the set with the unoriginal names we were really like sparkle ponies- with the Gusty n northsatr in that set
But lucky for me we also had the UK baby Sparkle ponies – more pearly than sparkly with Stella, Nightsong, Mischief n Explorer. Again those had different stamp
You could buy a NC / HONG KONG or CHINA baby. The card grafics also vary.
Pony Bride came in the flat box.
Secret Surprise UK were sold with the box you actually can see the pony itself.
Birthday pony did made the way here
Also the SweetTalking ponies were sold MIB in Israel- talking English.
The G1 line run its cores in Israel until late 1994 maybe even 1995. Those later ponies were mix of very old ponies from the early years n some Europeans ponies or new edition. G1 line was the most successful line sold in Israel. We had a lot of different ponies and got the enjoy the Europe market as the American market.  That’s how the mix stamped pony diversity you can find occurred. Because Israel import from all over the world we always had until today some oddity with toys.
You could buy ponies stamped CHINA /HONG KONG/ NC/ SPAIN / ITALLY and the ponies themselves arrive from all over with many ponies having several different cards because where they were imported from,
Delicacy with Hebrew stickers on the top were sold- mostly ponies from years 5-7
Shirts with MLP were sold
We had an Hebrew Sticker Album and the Tv show itself was shown on TV dubbed and all.
writing case with papers and envelopes in many variations also were sold here- the ones with good smell and regular.
We had a lot of fakies diversity – including Princess rise n Spit (MOC/MIB) , Crumpet pose, Remco fakies and the real Gem- we had TAKARA ponies back than.
Israel is not a country filled with flea markets or second hand toys (its not a big country at all) so searching for ponies – especially G1 is one in a million- believe me  I do check every place and every corner twice.
I don’t have the knowledge but it seems some sets didn’t make it to Israel- like the Mountain boys or Perfume Puff. Its align with the Israelian market- usually in toys we don’t get the all stuff the line has to offer- hence why im not sure about some lines of ponies In Israel… 
G2 was very minimize here to some sets and that’s it.
The G3 line had all the earth ponies- for some very very weird reason- we didn’t get any unicorn/peg until the line was about to die and got stuck with those same 6 ponies…
G4 came here – as the rest of the lines a little bit later than America/Europe. But it did in the beginning had a lot of ponies. Later on Israel got mostly mane 6 ponies with some exceptions.
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Taffeta on October 15, 2018, 06:39:53 AM
Wow. Thank you for that! So interesting. My friend has yet to dig out her childhood ponies but she also said what you did, about things coming later. But it sounds like you had a really big mix.

I know my friend said she had SS Shady, the Apple Delights, and thinking on it, I think it might have been a Summer, not Windy Wing (if that matters) but what else she has I don't know. I do hope now she's back there she might have a chance to look since your list makes it sound like a really diverse market, maybe like South Africa which also seems to have got a mixture.

Regarding the starlight babies - I have found all three (NC, CHina, HK) Baby Mischiefs here in the UK, so I have no idea if there's any actual rule to those. We also got a lot of imported stuff on foreign cards at the end of the line (mostly German, but mostly stuff we already had on the same cards in English) so I do wonder if we had a few in other languages that might account for those variations. Really don't know though.

Thank you for taking the time to type all that out. I guess if they were imports there are no Israeli pamphlets or printed adverts for G1?
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Shaz on October 15, 2018, 10:13:07 AM
Allymer, that is an awesome amount of information, thanks for writing it all out!
There was a Hebrew sticker album?! I love MLP sticker albums, do you happen to have any pictures or other info about that? Also, were there any MLP story books in Hebrew?
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: allymer on October 15, 2018, 09:11:03 PM
Allymer, that is an awesome amount of information, thanks for writing it all out!
There was a Hebrew sticker album?! I love MLP sticker albums, do you happen to have any pictures or other info about that? Also, were there any MLP story books in Hebrew?

yes we had some like 2-3 Hebrew books. 1 I have which is (the shadow thief - translate back from hebrew)
and I do have pic of the Hebrew sticker album. I look n post. meanwhile I photobomb in my Instagram account my last post- jonathanvkmlp

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Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Shaz on October 16, 2018, 01:33:45 AM
Wow, seeing pony stuff in Hebrew is really cool!
I have a sticker album like that, but mine is in Spanish and came from Argentina.
There really was a fascinating array of ponies in Israel, a little bit of everything!
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Taffeta on October 16, 2018, 03:25:52 AM
I have seen a Hebrew story book before, but none of these :D

Also, that advert is amazing. Mostly because right there is the absolute proof of what you said, allymer...the loving family set in the US box...and the Sundae Best on the UK card, no clip, and the name Butter Kiss not Swirly Whirly. (Yes, I can read that. But it's obviously the UK card so I guess I cheated).

Is there any chance of being able to use that advert on my website or does the image belong to someone else?

Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: allymer on October 16, 2018, 04:15:59 AM
I have seen a Hebrew story book before, but none of these :D

Is there any chance of being able to use that advert on my website or does the image belong to someone else?


YES, you can use it :) it's taken from a friend of mine who dont collect mlp but does end up keeping the sticker album :) so its ok of you to use those...

if you want write me (pm or here) your Email n ill send you the pics
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Taffeta on October 16, 2018, 04:29:20 AM
I have seen a Hebrew story book before, but none of these :D

Is there any chance of being able to use that advert on my website or does the image belong to someone else?


YES, you can use it :) it's taken from a friend of mine who dont collect mlp but does end up keeping the sticker album :) so its ok of you to use those...

if you want write me (pm or here) your Email n ill send you the pics

I will PM you! Thank you!
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: Barnacle_lady on October 17, 2018, 01:31:35 PM
Thanks for sharing the Israel part, I always wondered since I didn't grew up or go on holiday a lot. Unfortunately I can not ask my family over there to go look on the fleamarkets or shops. Must try next year when I go Eurovision :)
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: allymer on October 18, 2018, 10:08:56 AM
Thanks for sharing the Israel part, I always wondered since I didn't grew up or go on holiday a lot. Unfortunately I can not ask my family over there to go look on the fleamarkets or shops. Must try next year when I go Eurovision :)

come say hey when you 're around :)
Title: Re: Ponies in Eastern Europe? (With digressions on other parts of Europe & Asia!)
Post by: CinnamonOnions on October 18, 2018, 11:43:50 AM
A polish person just confirmed me they had atleast G3 ponies over there! Not sure was this mentioned here already, but thought I'd add just to be sure. Sadly the older polish person I could ask from did not know anything about did they have offical ponies or not.
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