So, I've just returned from the cinema and I kinda have mixed feelings about this. The graphics and tricks and CGI were good, but the plot was really predictable and naive and simple. Maybe it'll be better in the upcoming movies and it'll expand and everything, but this was 5/10 at max in my opinion.
I've won tickets to the official formal premiere which was two days earlier than the casual one for public, so I don't know if anyone else has seen it already. If so, what's your opinion?
I haven't read the book yet, so I didn't have any real frame of reference, but I saw the movie this past weekend and I really enjoyed it! I'm looking forward to the next one, and hope to pick up a copy of the book before then haha
I'm afraid to see the movie.
The book seemed more like a "guide" or side project than a story (I didn't buy it for that very reason).
Making a movie based on a non-story seems like it could be problematic. I've heard that Potter fans LOVE it and also HATE it- and so I'm not sure whether the people who love it are just desperate for something in the Potter world or have low expectations or it really was good ?
Thismoviemoney grubbing mess was a giant steaming pile of garbage that I'm glad I didn't pay for because if I'd had the ability to walk out of the theater in the middle, I would have... :pout:
If you read nothing else, know this: JKR SEXUALIZED A HOUSE ELF. This is a sin that cannot be forgiven or overlooked! :shocked:
Other problems:
- The characters were one-dimensional with no character development at all.
- The "plot" was loosely strung together by happenstance with no goal, rhyme, or reason.
- JKR clearly has no idea how America works.
- JKR doesn't understand what a congress is or what it does.
- JKR doesn't understand a president isn't a king.
- Manhattan is whitewashed except for one black woman.
- Somehow, despite America's huge population, amount of empty wild land, massive amounts of hunting fanatics, and history of obsessively exterminating indigenous creatures for fun, the government doesn't have a team of specialists to deal with magical creatures.
- There is no magical transportation.
- There is no magical customs office.
- Newt is negligent to the point of being homicidal; locks, gates, barrier spells, and other such safety features clearly don't exist in the world of Harry Potter.
- Newt has the same backstory as Hagrid, except JKR forgot she wrote that students who are expelled have their wands broken, so he gets to keep his.
- Spells such as the Disillusionment Charm, Stupefy, Accio, and transfiguration are never used, no matter how useful they would be in capturing magical creatures.
- Newt loses an Occamy (winged snake) egg, even though the egg must have somehow gotten out of the nest, across multiple rooms, up a set of stairs in the suitcase, and fallen out...????
- Everyone ignores Tina's warnings about Newt because... plot... reasons... Why would anyone other than an auror have a way to report an incident? Only aurors can see problems.
- No one notices Newt magically fixing that baker's building in crowded broad daylight.
- Newt really does not care that someone got mauled by his creatures until much later when it is convenient to deal with it.
- An ex-auror ignores a possibly poisoned man in favor of dinner and never mentions it again.
- Deadly magical creatures are loose so of course they ignore it and have dinner then go to bed.
- The illegal and dark magical practice of legilimency is apparently fine in America, and it's super cool to use on muggles and wizards alike.
- Excessive mind rape is extremely romantic and the audience should find it cute and a fantastic basis for a relationship.
- Somehow wizards can exist in MANHATTAN without ever interacting with muggles at all.
- Remember the Erumpent horn in the books? The one Luna Lovegood's father lied about being a Crumple-Horned Snorkack horn and it destroyed their house in a fiery ball of death? Newt never thinks its important to inform the ex-auror a live one is now loose in a crowded city...
- The giant Erumpent gets through the entire city and destroys the zoo without anyone seeing or hearing it, or caring about the destruction it leaves in it's wake.
- No one fixes the zoo and muggles can deal with their own deadly animals because why not.
- A muggle is clearly a better companion than an ex-auror for catching magical creatures.
- Newt tricking said muggle into helping him by implying he won't mind wipe him later, when he'd previously planned to, and does it anyway later, is never really addressed questioned by said muggle as a problem.
- Everyone falls in love with the minimum time and interaction possibly allowed.
- All muggles who hate magic are evil creeps.
- All muggles who die clearly "deserved" it, so don't feel bad.
- They have to find a bug and a teapot instead of transfiguring them, or a cage that they could shrink, because... reasons...
- There are no guards at magical UN meetings, and you can just walk in.
- American aurors can apparently single-handedly order multiple executions of people without a trial, even people from other countries, and have it happen in less than a day.
- America has a death chamber full of creepy smiling executioners who ask no questions.
- Gellert Grindelwald's there for... reasons that aren't explained...
- Grindelwald's "plan" is circumstantial to the point of being idiotic to come all the way to another continent for.
- If these magical parasite things are created by neglect and trying to ignore magic, why didn't the Dursleys end up giving Harry Potter the same problem?
- Newt knows exactly what to do with the venom he previously mentioned he had no idea what it could possibly be used for...
- What about all the photos taken before the final battle? What about the people indoors? What about those who sent letters out of state or left on boats or trains? How could everyone's memory of the past few days possibly be erased?
- The story ends with another teenager being murdered for the grater good, except Credence lacks plot armor, so unlike the other book, he stays dead (I think...).
- Everyone who dies is evil, unless it's a tragic end point to show someone else is evil.
- If the baker and the mind rapist were really in love, why didn't they go to Britain where apparently they could be together legally?
- Manhattan was conveniently either empty or crowded, depending on the needs of the plot.
I mean... JKR could have tried a bit harder... -_-
Thismoviemoney grubbing mess was a giant steaming pile of garbage that I'm glad I didn't pay for because if I'd had the ability to walk out of the theater in the middle, I would have... :pout:
If you read nothing else, know this: JKR SEXUALIZED A HOUSE ELF. This is a sin that cannot be forgiven or overlooked! :shocked:
Other problems:
- The characters were one-dimensional with no character development at all.
- The "plot" was loosely strung together by happenstance with no goal, rhyme, or reason.
- JKR clearly has no idea how America works.
- JKR doesn't understand what a congress is or what it does.
- JKR doesn't understand a president isn't a king.
- Manhattan is whitewashed except for one black woman.
- Somehow, despite America's huge population, amount of empty wild land, massive amounts of hunting fanatics, and history of obsessively exterminating indigenous creatures for fun, the government doesn't have a team of specialists to deal with magical creatures.
- There is no magical transportation.
- There is no magical customs office.
- Newt is negligent to the point of being homicidal; locks, gates, barrier spells, and other such safety features clearly don't exist in the world of Harry Potter.
- Newt has the same backstory as Hagrid, except JKR forgot she wrote that students who are expelled have their wands broken, so he gets to keep his.
- Spells such as the Disillusionment Charm, Stupefy, Accio, and transfiguration are never used, no matter how useful they would be in capturing magical creatures.
- Newt loses an Occamy (winged snake) egg, even though the egg must have somehow gotten out of the nest, across multiple rooms, up a set of stairs in the suitcase, and fallen out...????
- Everyone ignores Tina's warnings about Newt because... plot... reasons... Why would anyone other than an auror have a way to report an incident? Only aurors can see problems.
- No one notices Newt magically fixing that baker's building in crowded broad daylight.
- Newt really does not care that someone got mauled by his creatures until much later when it is convenient to deal with it.
- An ex-auror ignores a possibly poisoned man in favor of dinner and never mentions it again.
- Deadly magical creatures are loose so of course they ignore it and have dinner then go to bed.
- The illegal and dark magical practice of legilimency is apparently fine in America, and it's super cool to use on muggles and wizards alike.
- Excessive mind rape is extremely romantic and the audience should find it cute and a fantastic basis for a relationship.
- Somehow wizards can exist in MANHATTAN without ever interacting with muggles at all.
- Remember the Erumpent horn in the books? The one Luna Lovegood's father lied about being a Crumple-Horned Snorkack horn and it destroyed their house in a fiery ball of death? Newt never thinks its important to inform the ex-auror a live one is now loose in a crowded city...
- The giant Erumpent gets through the entire city and destroys the zoo without anyone seeing or hearing it, or caring about the destruction it leaves in it's wake.
- No one fixes the zoo and muggles can deal with their own deadly animals because why not.
- A muggle is clearly a better companion than an ex-auror for catching magical creatures.
- Newt tricking said muggle into helping him by implying he won't mind wipe him later, when he'd previously planned to, and does it anyway later, is never really addressed questioned by said muggle as a problem.
- Everyone falls in love with the minimum time and interaction possibly allowed.
- All muggles who hate magic are evil creeps.
- All muggles who die clearly "deserved" it, so don't feel bad.
- They have to find a bug and a teapot instead of transfiguring them, or a cage that they could shrink, because... reasons...
- There are no guards at magical UN meetings, and you can just walk in.
- American aurors can apparently single-handedly order multiple executions of people without a trial, even people from other countries, and have it happen in less than a day.
- America has a death chamber full of creepy smiling executioners who ask no questions.
- Gellert Grindelwald's there for... reasons that aren't explained...
- Grindelwald's "plan" is circumstantial to the point of being idiotic to come all the way to another continent for.
- If these magical parasite things are created by neglect and trying to ignore magic, why didn't the Dursleys end up giving Harry Potter the same problem?
- Newt knows exactly what to do with the venom he previously mentioned he had no idea what it could possibly be used for...
- What about all the photos taken before the final battle? What about the people indoors? What about those who sent letters out of state or left on boats or trains? How could everyone's memory of the past few days possibly be erased?
- The story ends with another teenager being murdered for the grater good, except Credence lacks plot armor, so unlike the other book, he stays dead (I think...).
- Everyone who dies is evil, unless it's a tragic end point to show someone else is evil.
- If the baker and the mind rapist were really in love, why didn't they go to Britain where apparently they could be together legally?
- Manhattan was conveniently either empty or crowded, depending on the needs of the plot.
I mean... JKR could have tried a bit harder... -_-
Oh thank god I'm not the only person who thinks this movie was complete trash! I ranted to a friend on the phone for 45 minutes about every reason this was horrible written, but then everyone I talk to (and all the online reviews) say it's so amazing. I'm like "Did we even see the same movie?"
Glad to see there's some others here who are of the same opinion. Makes me feel like I'm not alone in the world and/or completely crazy. ;)
Thismoviemoney grubbing mess was a giant steaming pile of garbage that I'm glad I didn't pay for because if I'd had the ability to walk out of the theater in the middle, I would have... :pout:SpoilerIf you read nothing else, know this: JKR SEXUALIZED A HOUSE ELF. This is a sin that cannot be forgiven or overlooked! :shocked:
Other problems:
- The characters were one-dimensional with no character development at all.
- The "plot" was loosely strung together by happenstance with no goal, rhyme, or reason.
- JKR clearly has no idea how America works.
- JKR doesn't understand what a congress is or what it does.
- JKR doesn't understand a president isn't a king.
- Manhattan is whitewashed except for one black woman.
- Somehow, despite America's huge population, amount of empty wild land, massive amounts of hunting fanatics, and history of obsessively exterminating indigenous creatures for fun, the government doesn't have a team of specialists to deal with magical creatures.
- There is no magical transportation.
- There is no magical customs office.
- Newt is negligent to the point of being homicidal; locks, gates, barrier spells, and other such safety features clearly don't exist in the world of Harry Potter.
- Newt has the same backstory as Hagrid, except JKR forgot she wrote that students who are expelled have their wands broken, so he gets to keep his.
- Spells such as the Disillusionment Charm, Stupefy, Accio, and transfiguration are never used, no matter how useful they would be in capturing magical creatures.
- Newt loses an Occamy (winged snake) egg, even though the egg must have somehow gotten out of the nest, across multiple rooms, up a set of stairs in the suitcase, and fallen out...????
- Everyone ignores Tina's warnings about Newt because... plot... reasons... Why would anyone other than an auror have a way to report an incident? Only aurors can see problems.
- No one notices Newt magically fixing that baker's building in crowded broad daylight.
- Newt really does not care that someone got mauled by his creatures until much later when it is convenient to deal with it.
- An ex-auror ignores a possibly poisoned man in favor of dinner and never mentions it again.
- Deadly magical creatures are loose so of course they ignore it and have dinner then go to bed.
- The illegal and dark magical practice of legilimency is apparently fine in America, and it's super cool to use on muggles and wizards alike.
- Excessive mind rape is extremely romantic and the audience should find it cute and a fantastic basis for a relationship.
- Somehow wizards can exist in MANHATTAN without ever interacting with muggles at all.
- Remember the Erumpent horn in the books? The one Luna Lovegood's father lied about being a Crumple-Horned Snorkack horn and it destroyed their house in a fiery ball of death? Newt never thinks its important to inform the ex-auror a live one is now loose in a crowded city...
- The giant Erumpent gets through the entire city and destroys the zoo without anyone seeing or hearing it, or caring about the destruction it leaves in it's wake.
- No one fixes the zoo and muggles can deal with their own deadly animals because why not.
- A muggle is clearly a better companion than an ex-auror for catching magical creatures.
- Newt tricking said muggle into helping him by implying he won't mind wipe him later, when he'd previously planned to, and does it anyway later, is never really addressed questioned by said muggle as a problem.
- Everyone falls in love with the minimum time and interaction possibly allowed.
- All muggles who hate magic are evil creeps.
- All muggles who die clearly "deserved" it, so don't feel bad.
- They have to find a bug and a teapot instead of transfiguring them, or a cage that they could shrink, because... reasons...
- There are no guards at magical UN meetings, and you can just walk in.
- American aurors can apparently single-handedly order multiple executions of people without a trial, even people from other countries, and have it happen in less than a day.
- America has a death chamber full of creepy smiling executioners who ask no questions.
- Gellert Grindelwald's there for... reasons that aren't explained...
- Grindelwald's "plan" is circumstantial to the point of being idiotic to come all the way to another continent for.
- If these magical parasite things are created by neglect and trying to ignore magic, why didn't the Dursleys end up giving Harry Potter the same problem?
- Newt knows exactly what to do with the venom he previously mentioned he had no idea what it could possibly be used for...
- What about all the photos taken before the final battle? What about the people indoors? What about those who sent letters out of state or left on boats or trains? How could everyone's memory of the past few days possibly be erased?
- The story ends with another teenager being murdered for the grater good, except Credence lacks plot armor, so unlike the other book, he stays dead (I think...).
- Everyone who dies is evil, unless it's a tragic end point to show someone else is evil.
- If the baker and the mind rapist were really in love, why didn't they go to Britain where apparently they could be together legally?
- Manhattan was conveniently either empty or crowded, depending on the needs of the plot.
I mean... JKR could have tried a bit harder... -_-
Thismoviemoney grubbing mess was a giant steaming pile of garbage that I'm glad I didn't pay for because if I'd had the ability to walk out of the theater in the middle, I would have... :pout:SpoilerIf you read nothing else, know this: JKR SEXUALIZED A HOUSE ELF. This is a sin that cannot be forgiven or overlooked! :shocked:
Other problems:
- The characters were one-dimensional with no character development at all.
- The "plot" was loosely strung together by happenstance with no goal, rhyme, or reason.
- JKR clearly has no idea how America works.
- JKR doesn't understand what a congress is or what it does.
- JKR doesn't understand a president isn't a king.
- Manhattan is whitewashed except for one black woman.
- Somehow, despite America's huge population, amount of empty wild land, massive amounts of hunting fanatics, and history of obsessively exterminating indigenous creatures for fun, the government doesn't have a team of specialists to deal with magical creatures.
- There is no magical transportation.
- There is no magical customs office.
- Newt is negligent to the point of being homicidal; locks, gates, barrier spells, and other such safety features clearly don't exist in the world of Harry Potter.
- Newt has the same backstory as Hagrid, except JKR forgot she wrote that students who are expelled have their wands broken, so he gets to keep his.
- Spells such as the Disillusionment Charm, Stupefy, Accio, and transfiguration are never used, no matter how useful they would be in capturing magical creatures.
- Newt loses an Occamy (winged snake) egg, even though the egg must have somehow gotten out of the nest, across multiple rooms, up a set of stairs in the suitcase, and fallen out...????
- Everyone ignores Tina's warnings about Newt because... plot... reasons... Why would anyone other than an auror have a way to report an incident? Only aurors can see problems.
- No one notices Newt magically fixing that baker's building in crowded broad daylight.
- Newt really does not care that someone got mauled by his creatures until much later when it is convenient to deal with it.
- An ex-auror ignores a possibly poisoned man in favor of dinner and never mentions it again.
- Deadly magical creatures are loose so of course they ignore it and have dinner then go to bed.
- The illegal and dark magical practice of legilimency is apparently fine in America, and it's super cool to use on muggles and wizards alike.
- Excessive mind rape is extremely romantic and the audience should find it cute and a fantastic basis for a relationship.
- Somehow wizards can exist in MANHATTAN without ever interacting with muggles at all.
- Remember the Erumpent horn in the books? The one Luna Lovegood's father lied about being a Crumple-Horned Snorkack horn and it destroyed their house in a fiery ball of death? Newt never thinks its important to inform the ex-auror a live one is now loose in a crowded city...
- The giant Erumpent gets through the entire city and destroys the zoo without anyone seeing or hearing it, or caring about the destruction it leaves in it's wake.
- No one fixes the zoo and muggles can deal with their own deadly animals because why not.
- A muggle is clearly a better companion than an ex-auror for catching magical creatures.
- Newt tricking said muggle into helping him by implying he won't mind wipe him later, when he'd previously planned to, and does it anyway later, is never really addressed questioned by said muggle as a problem.
- Everyone falls in love with the minimum time and interaction possibly allowed.
- All muggles who hate magic are evil creeps.
- All muggles who die clearly "deserved" it, so don't feel bad.
- They have to find a bug and a teapot instead of transfiguring them, or a cage that they could shrink, because... reasons...
- There are no guards at magical UN meetings, and you can just walk in.
- American aurors can apparently single-handedly order multiple executions of people without a trial, even people from other countries, and have it happen in less than a day.
- America has a death chamber full of creepy smiling executioners who ask no questions.
- Gellert Grindelwald's there for... reasons that aren't explained...
- Grindelwald's "plan" is circumstantial to the point of being idiotic to come all the way to another continent for.
- If these magical parasite things are created by neglect and trying to ignore magic, why didn't the Dursleys end up giving Harry Potter the same problem?
- Newt knows exactly what to do with the venom he previously mentioned he had no idea what it could possibly be used for...
- What about all the photos taken before the final battle? What about the people indoors? What about those who sent letters out of state or left on boats or trains? How could everyone's memory of the past few days possibly be erased?
- The story ends with another teenager being murdered for the grater good, except Credence lacks plot armor, so unlike the other book, he stays dead (I think...).
- Everyone who dies is evil, unless it's a tragic end point to show someone else is evil.
- If the baker and the mind rapist were really in love, why didn't they go to Britain where apparently they could be together legally?
- Manhattan was conveniently either empty or crowded, depending on the needs of the plot.
I mean... JKR could have tried a bit harder... -_-
Although I agree that the story line was thin, you have to remember the story takes place in the 1920's. There were different rules, customs and regulations back then. We can't expect them to have the same laws then that applied in the Potterbooks. Who knows, maybe some of them were formed because of Newts visit there. Same with spells. Muggle UN for instance were formed 1945 so for the wizarding world to have one (I don't even remember the meeting being a UN one but ok) 20 years prior is big, as is having a female president. I think most people would have laughed if that was even mentioned back then.
I agree with some points you made, but I am also saying that trying to place laws and rules of 2016 on 1920 is a no go as the world was so different back then, both muggle wise and wizard wise.
- American aurors can apparently single-handedly order multiple executions of people without a trial, even people from other countries, and have it happen in less than a day.
- America has a death chamber full of creepy smiling executioners who ask no questions.
I wasn't going to mention this issue, as I thought it wasn't in the movie, but apparently it is... I just found out that the griffin-thing was supposed to be a thunderbird, even though it is clearly a griffin...???? I thought she was only being an insensitive culture appropriating jerk on Pottormore with "America's Whitewashed and Clearly Not Researched Magical History". Nope, I was wrong...