Target Exclusive FS Magic of Everypony Collection

[Sunset]

I bet the price point of $60 is with the idea of it being 33% off at the first sale...

QTF!    They'll squeeze every last drop from those who just can't wait.  Then when it does go on sale, everyone else will go "that's a great deal!"

[lostpony]

Hm its true $60 is a lot and these packs are slow to go on sale. They arent going to move superfast anymore than the current $60 wonderbolts set, but like the wonderbolts they will attract attention to the pony display area and i think that there's a movie.

Kids do care about show accuracy, at least some do anyway but they aren't as hardened as we are to make as big a deal about inaccuracy.  That these ponies look more like the movie than the old toys is definitely going to drive them to want them and parents and adult collectors are going to indulge their children/inner-childs with this exhorbitant set of boring mane 6 ponies.

If theyre not for you, there are plenty of choices coming out. I for one am really excited about the new toys.

I think its been true, what jorgito said that in g4 the show has been more important than the toys and i've lamented Hasbro's neglect of the g4 toys up to this point. While the new molds arent always quite the best i think they could be, its clear to me that Hasbro has been listening and is shifting a lot more focus to the new toys than they have so far this generation and i'm happy about that. Still none of these are quite up to g1 standards so far in my view. G1 still the best toys but these are still pretty great.

[KarentheUnicorn]

I've been collecting ponies for 30+ years (since 83), even back in the day I never though, I totally need a show accurate First Tooth Baby pony. Actually I seem to remember seeing new ponies in the store before I even saw episodes of the show. Yea before internet and 50 billion channels. There were no 10 reruns of MLP in a row back in my day.

Well you can't really compare these things because the cartoon for g1 was just a toy ad, it was never as important as FiM

I question the use of the word 'important' when discussing toys and cartoons LOL!! But that's probably because I'm in my 40's.

Post Merge: July 13, 2017, 10:47:13 AM

Are you reading only half of my sentences? What i said was that the older generations cartoons were never more important and popular than their toyline like FiM is to the g4 toyline.I never said they were never important.

But ya know, in context of little kids, you're kind of suggesting that the cartoon is more 'important' to kids now than kids of the 80's. Yea, that's why I got up at 630 am so I could watch a obscure cartoon called Honey Honey back in the 80's because I didn't care as much about cartoons. It's sort of saying that modern little kids give more of a crap over show accurate hair than say a kid from the 80's.

Because ya know, my post was in context to it being suggested that 'children' are insisting on having show accurate ponies for $60.

I think hasbro's marketing play on this is, the show accurate part is for the adults and that kids will end up with it because they like ponies, not automatically becuase 5 year olds are insisting on having show accurate hair because they're the ones demanding it.

[Dragonflitter]

Yeah this 'show accurate' idea is definitely aimed at the older collectors, in my opinion. I'm not saying children won't notice the difference between what's on the screen and the toy in their hand. I think they definitely will, BUT it won't stop them from wanting/getting the toy.

I remember many times in my childhood I was quick enough to point out when a toy or coloring book didn't match the tv show/movie/whatever. But that didn't stop me from asking my parents for the toys and coloring books. It just wasn't important to me. And I think the toy companies know that too. They strive to make the character identifiable to the audience, but they didn't stress if they couldn't make the toy perfectly match what was on the screen.

Then all of a sudden came a large section of very vocal adult collectors into the MLP collecting world who can be very picky, and started pointed out all this stuff like the non-accurate hair and the molds that aren't like the Flash animation. And now we have this 'show accurate' molded hair and new body molds that try to perfectly mimic the style of animation in the show.

The toy line has definitely changed to match the market demand. Even though the FiM toys are still aimed at the younger market, Hasbro is listening to the vocal other collectors as well.

[lostpony]

So, I have some thoughts on show accuracy from kids and adults perspectives, for what they're worth.

As a little kid I cared very much about show accuracy of my toys, of course this was only the original Star Trek in the 70s (long since in rerun) and there weren't any such toys available to me at all so I made my own out of mostly wood.  The hardest thing was the round part to make the Enterprise as I couldn't cut round pieces and I made phasers out of the crotch in a small tree branch (I was on the lookout for the right bits of wood for years after not making them anymore) and communicators out of the plastic woodwind reed-holders other students discarded stuck onto a bit of wood with wire to make the open-button and -- well you get the idea.  Not exactly show accurate but I did my best.  The uniforms of course were easy, they were just a T shirt.  I was so excited when the movie was announced....

Eh I think it's far more important that these ponies look more like the Movie than the previous toys because some kids will have the Movie toys, and the other kids will want them.  I always wanted the newer toys other kids had (hotwheels and stompers and whatnot), and by the time I had one they were no longer what anyone else wanted anymore but I kept them forever anyway.  When deciding whether kids care about the "accuracy" of the hair it's important to realize kids these days have a lot more accuracy and information about their shows available to them than we did as kids so comparing them to us as far as whether they care about show accuracy is really more apples and oranges.

Bottom line is these ponies are not more accurate than the old ones anyway but they are updated to go with the movie, which is what I think will attract kids and grownups alike to them.

As far as crediting Hasbro for the "show-accurate" hair, remember this is a Target exclusive so it's more Target's thing than Hasbro's so we're talking about Target's marketing ideas not Hasbro's anyway.  Maybe this set isn't really intended to sell so much as make the Target pony aisle look different from the pony aisle in other stores, or to have a "high-end" set for those parents and adults who want to spend more than $6, $15, or $25.  I am sure some kids and collectors will want these special and expensive sets just to have the top-grade goodies that they can afford and have "better" toys than their friends, no?  I know less of us adult collectors want Mimic or Repunzel just to have better ponies than other people (at least I hope not) but remember as kids, we did kinda want our toys to be better than other kids toys didn't we?  At least a little?  I assume that this, at least, is still applicable to current kids because some things never change.

And just like when I was a kid, I'm still more than happy with the formerly-better toys that end up discarded and unwanted.  So I'll be more than happy to find these later in the $2 bags with their "show accurate" hair cut off or frizzed, and their bodies scraped, chewed and marked.

At any rate I look forward to these dressing up my Target pony hunts whether anyone buys them or not.  Thanks Target!

[KarentheUnicorn]

I know less of us adult collectors want Mimic or Repunzel just to have better ponies than other people (at least I hope not) but remember as kids, we did kinda want our toys to be better than other kids toys didn't we?

I bought 80's ponies in the store when they were new so I don't particularly remember needing my toys to be 'better' than other kids :/ But since I was around 11 when I started I wasn't abusing my toys like say a 3 year old might.

As far as Mimic and Rapunzel goes, I usually annoy people when I tell them what I paid for mine but then again, I was buying them in the 80's opposed to 20 years later when everyone and they're cousin decided they were hard to find rare items.

It's kind of like argentina ponies, when I first got online I was buying them for $20 still on card, now people are charging $100's for them looking like they escaped the glue factory.

But as a kid I don't know if I ever thought about needing my toys to be better than other kids?? I guess I never really looked at it that way...and I don't remember wanting toys just because other kids had those toys or because there was a commercial or cartoon. (shrugs)

[Wardah]

I think they are just trying to make them look better so that kids and collectors will be more interested. While kids might be willing to overlook inaccuracies, if they have a choice of something that only vaguely resembles a beloved character or something that looks just like them, most of the time they will pick the one that looks just like the character.

[Leave a Whisper]

Yeah but Hasbro still isn't thinking. What parent is going to pay $60 for 6 toys their kids already have, and if they don't, why pay that much when they can buy the little singles for $3-$5. Or the blind bags they can charitably cheat at?

[TheBeatlesPkmnFan42]

I did say I plan on getting these earlier, but just to add on, I really wish they would sell things that they have in these types of big sets separately too (or at least two packs). While $60 spread out wouldn't be too much of a big deal, I am still at the point where most things I get is with my parents' money since I do not yet have a job. It is much harder to get their permission for me to spend $60 all at once, compared to say, $10 or $20 per payweek.

It would be really nice if they were to release these (as well as the recently announced TRU 12 pack) separately or in smaller packs so that people could spread out the money spending, as opposed to spending $60 all at once.

Both these and all the ponies in the TRU 12 pack I really want, but it'll be difficult to get them if they are only available in these $60 packs, I can imagine it's the same case for many other people.

[bright rabbit 1]

I hope they do the other characters this size.

[lostpony]

Yeah but Hasbro still isn't thinking. What parent is going to pay $60 for 6 toys their kids already have, and if they don't, why pay that much when they can buy the little singles for $3-$5. Or the blind bags they can charitably cheat at?

To start with, parents whose kids are new pony fans and dont have the 6 already.

Hasbro is clearly thinking there will be a significant amount of them.

Having to buy the big set to get any of the special FSes inside has been a thing for a while now including the current wonderbolts set, the power ponies and i suspect other sets that i dont remember/dont know about.

[banditpony]

Well.
Call me crazy.

But I think $60 for 6 FS ponies is a good deal. ($10 per pony compared to $15 for a single). And I like that all of them are there. It really beats having to find them individually.

[Leave a Whisper]

Yeah but Hasbro still isn't thinking. What parent is going to pay $60 for 6 toys their kids already have, and if they don't, why pay that much when they can buy the little singles for $3-$5. Or the blind bags they can charitably cheat at?

To start with, parents whose kids are new pony fans and dont have the 6 already.

Hasbro is clearly thinking there will be a significant amount of them.

Having to buy the big set to get any of the special FSes inside has been a thing for a while now including the current wonderbolts set, the power ponies and i suspect other sets that i dont remember/dont know about.

And I just said, why should they grab that when blind bags that let you peak and singles are readily available for a fraction of that cost? Especially in this economy. You could probably get  all 6 f them in BB form for kiddo for less then $20. Or grab 3 of the singles at a time for about $10-$15

My daughter's G4 collection is nearly done because of the blind bags and singles. She really only needs a few that haven't been released yet and 2  that have been eluding her.

[TheBeatlesPkmnFan42]

Well.
Call me crazy.

But I think $60 for 6 FS ponies is a good deal. ($10 per pony compared to $15 for a single). And I like that all of them are there. It really beats having to find them individually.

Individual circumstance is everything.

$60 is definitely a good deal, but it's easier for some people to spend $60 on toys at once than it is for others. As I said, I still primarily rely on my parents to buy me the things I want. I'm still unemployed and that'll probably be the case for at least another year now. The fact that now every month we have to pay $100 (I think that was it) for the car my mom got two months ago certainly doesn't help.

They 100% are worth $60, I just wish I had the option of getting them individually and spending that $60 slowly over a longer period of time because that's easier for my family at the moment with our money circumstance. I just think it would be nice to have both this $60 pack for people who are able to spend it all at once, and individual releases (or 2-packs) for people who are unable to do that.

I do have a small side job right now where a local cafe commissions me to make a dessert for them, but as of right now I don't know how much money I will make from it nor how often it will happen. My mom also isn't too thrilled that I want to spend the money I make from it on toys.

[banditpony]

Well.
Call me crazy.

But I think $60 for 6 FS ponies is a good deal. ($10 per pony compared to $15 for a single). And I like that all of them are there. It really beats having to find them individually.

Individual circumstance is everything.

$60 is definitely a good deal, but it's easier for some people to spend $60 on toys at once than it is for others. As I said, I still primarily rely on my parents to buy me the things I want. I'm still unemployed and that'll probably be the case for at least another year now. The fact that now every month we have to pay $100 (I think that was it) for the car my mom got two months ago certainly doesn't help.

They 100% are worth $60, I just wish I had the option of getting them individually and spending that $60 slowly over a longer period of time because that's easier for my family at the moment with our money circumstance. I just think it would be nice to have both this $60 pack for people who are able to spend it all at once, and individual releases (or 2-packs) for people who are unable to do that.

I do have a small side job right now where a local cafe commissions me to make a dessert for them, but as of right now I don't know how much money I will make from it nor how often it will happen. My mom also isn't too thrilled that I want to spend the money I make from it on toys.

Well. I mean if you can't afford it, you can't afford it.

Let's be honest, there is a great chance that Target will want to sell this set during Christmas time. So it should be on the shelves November 15. There's 18 weeks till then. If you saved $3.50 each week till then you'll be able to afford $60.

Otherwise if you are doing it as a single set x 6 @$15 each, it's going to cost you $90 over time. If money is that tight, that seems like a waste of $30.