The MLP Arena
Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: Wardah on July 12, 2017, 02:17:19 PM
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https://www.mlpmerch.com/2017/07/target-releases-exclusive-magic-of.html
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Snobby nose ponies unite!! LOL!
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I will admit the design of the rebooted ponies has been growing on me- I think they're cute.
That said, although I am tempted to get them, I remind myself there is no room and I need to sell a few boxes of ponies as it is!
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i saw this on tumblr. im happy that their hair now looks more or less like the show, but its hilarious to me that this is an admittance of guilt, they KNOW their toys' hairs look Nothing like the show, they have this especially branded to look like the hair...
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The movie designs have really been growing on me lately (especially after seeing the trailer)...but the one thing I can't get over is that the larger eye shine... thing... is so dull compared to the smaller ones! It makes them look somewhat dead inside.
Still... fashion style sized and accurate hair? Stop tempting me, Hasbro! *shakes fist*
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Are these the same mold as the previous FS ponies? I like the FS size, but not their wing design. I'm interested in these if the wings have been redesigned.
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Are these the same mold as the previous FS ponies? I like the FS size, but not their wing design. I'm interested in these if the wings have been redesigned.
The price under it says 59.99 so if it's sitting in the right place they're fashion style size since the other old style sets like this were that price at target. It looks different from the new style in body as some on facebook says the legs look different.
So maybe they've tweeked the molds?
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One. Dumb name, totally cringe-worthy. Two the set isn't good. It's the same characters over and over again. I think Hasbro's brains are stuck on a permanent loop. :throw: Someone knock the needle off the record so we can get something new for once.
Every single set that is one of these six is not new. I don't care if they turn into flying land shark-jets. They're old and certainly aren't worth $60.
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One. Dumb name, totally cringe-worthy. Two the set isn't good. It's the same characters over and over again. I think Hasbro's brains are stuck on a permanent loop. :throw: Someone knock the needle off the record so we can get something new for once.
Every single set that is one of these six is not new. I don't care if they turn into flying land shark-jets. They're old and certainly aren't worth $60.
I actually didn't notice the name of the set till now....
Magic of....everypony. Yea, okay Hasbro, I guess it's everypony :p (every pony that counts? LOL!)
The issue I have is the noses look weirdly angular...it's like they've got they're noses in the air or something. Maybe they look better in person. It's like the new molds and I've seen those in person but haven't bought any cause they look 'weird'.
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I agree with you Karen. They do look very strange.
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Are these the same mold as the previous FS ponies? I like the FS size, but not their wing design. I'm interested in these if the wings have been redesigned.
It kinda does look like they've been redesigned- (if you click on the photo you can kinda see the wings for Dash and Twilight)
It also looks like they've gone to some greater effort with the hair styles (if you look carefully)
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One. Dumb name, totally cringe-worthy. Two the set isn't good. It's the same characters over and over again. I think Hasbro's brains are stuck on a permanent loop. :throw: Someone knock the needle off the record so we can get something new for once.
Every single set that is one of these six is not new. I don't care if they turn into flying land shark-jets. They're old and certainly aren't worth $60.
A pony turning into a flying land shark-jet sounds pretty cool, though. I'd buy one.
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The show accurate hair is nice but I am so beyond over the mane six I can't think of anything that would get me to buy more of them.
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One. Dumb name, totally cringe-worthy. Two the set isn't good. It's the same characters over and over again. I think Hasbro's brains are stuck on a permanent loop. :throw: Someone knock the needle off the record so we can get something new for once.
Every single set that is one of these six is not new. I don't care if they turn into flying land shark-jets. They're old and certainly aren't worth $60.
A pony turning into a flying land shark-jet sounds pretty cool, though. I'd buy one.
What would that even look like? :what:
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I need this. The second I saw this set it skyrocketed to the top of my want list.
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The show accurate hair is nice but I am so beyond over the mane six I can't think of anything that would get me to buy more of them.
Yes, this for me, too. Only new characters for me from now on.
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Every single set that is one of these six is not new. I don't care if they turn into flying land shark-jets. They're old and certainly aren't worth $60.
:lmao:
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Is it me, or is it really weird that when trying to make them *show accurate* they made Twilight the completely wrong colour?!
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I hate their balloon heads but I gotta give it to Hasbrony; finally bangs on brushables!
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Excited to get these! With me hopefully getting an actual job soon in addition to the small "job" I have now where I'm commissioned to make deserts, I'll try to save up $60 to get them at some point.
I've completely fallen in love with 4.5s after getting the normal sized Rarity and Pinkie Pie, so I look forward to having these fashion style-sized ones.
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The show accurate hair is nice but I am so beyond over the mane six I can't think of anything that would get me to buy more of them.
While I am totally over the mane 6 as well, I think it's worth not forgetting that this is a toy line for little kids, and little kids WANT to see their fav characters. Honestly, we aren't their target demographic. If there's one thing I've learned babysitting my pony obsessed niece, it's that one little girl can simply Never have enough rainbow dash merch x'D
You don't have to buy this set, and you only have to buy the new characters if that's what you want, but hasbro really.. Is going to keep making for their target audience. It's a toy company. It's their job.
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Umm, neither of us said "Omg! Hasbro you so stupid!" We both simply stated our own opinion and what we would be purchasing or not purchasing. No need for reminders about Hasbro being a children's toy company :/
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All I can say is, finally. Finally sculpted to look like the show. Finally with effort put into the hair, which is so integral to the designs of these characters. Finally fashion style size...since I grew up with G1, a pony isn't quite a pony if its rump doesn't fit nicely into your palm for easy adventuring.
The only thing I don't love about this set is the static poses! I think the dynamic sculpts of the smaller G4.5s are so cute. I just want those in this size with hair styles.
Early on I loved G4 as a show and felt let down by the toys (my opposite perception of G1.) G4.5 starts to turn that around - these look like the pony toys they should have made back in 2010. Cute!
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... one little girl can simply Never have enough rainbow dash merch x'D
True dat. Or aging codgers like me. Even if RD did stop being my fave as soon as I saw the show...
But to call it "everypony"? I clicked the link expecting like a 50-pony set or something. Everypony knows Luna and Tia are best pony and they're not in there, so....pout. Unforgivably inaccurate set name.
Still, it's always fun to have a big set at target to see every time I go in there looking for ponies. I don't have to buy them to enjoy the eye candy, like the Wonderbolts FS set that i never buy now. I wonder when these are going to arrive at my Targets. Maybe I can play movie ponies vs wonderbolts with them on the floor until they throw me out of the store.
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The show accurate hair is nice but I am so beyond over the mane six I can't think of anything that would get me to buy more of them.
While I am totally over the mane 6 as well, I think it's worth not forgetting that this is a toy line for little kids, and little kids WANT to see their fav characters. Honestly, we aren't their target demographic. If there's one thing I've learned babysitting my pony obsessed niece, it's that one little girl can simply Never have enough rainbow dash merch x'D
You don't have to buy this set, and you only have to buy the new characters if that's what you want, but hasbro really.. Is going to keep making for their target audience. It's a toy company. It's their job.
I think you took my comment more negatively than I meant it. I don't expect Hasbro to cater to me or adult collectors at all. I'm also a mom of a 9 year old daughter who has been playing with ponies since she was 4 and she is also over having 10 Pinkies etc. She is so bored with mlp that she lost total interest with never getting any new characters. And she hasn't outgrown toys, she plays with tons of other toy lines that offer new characters all the time to keep her interested. Yes kids are ok with some doubles but they're not stupid either and like variety. I also agree that it's a good move to have the mane 6 in constant circulation for kids getting into the series. I simply meant that I won't be worrying about having to track these down for myself because I have enough mane 6 for a lifetime. I wasn't complaining that there weren't any new characters in the set. I've been super patient with Hasbro and buy the mane 6 again if it's a good gimmick like the pearly ponies but I'm at the point now that I have too many and I won't be getting this set. Saving my wallet. :)
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Saving your wallet is not a bad idea; there's a lot of great new toys coming out!
I put a link to a toy fair video of the new toys here: http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,387052.0.html
Personally I don't think 10 is enough Pinkys, but I'd buy a new pony first.
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One. Dumb name, totally cringe-worthy. Two the set isn't good. It's the same characters over and over again. I think Hasbro's brains are stuck on a permanent loop. :throw: Someone knock the needle off the record so we can get something new for once.
Every single set that is one of these six is not new. I don't care if they turn into flying land shark-jets. They're old and certainly aren't worth $60.
A pony turning into a flying land shark-jet sounds pretty cool, though. I'd buy one.
What would that even look like? :what:
I'm not sure... but if Hasbro can make Optimus Prime transform into a Gorilla, then I'm sure they can turn Pinkie Pie into a shark-jet.
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Pinky shark-jet?
Maybe it would look something like this:
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(https://flic.kr/p/WFMXXF)pinkysharkjet (https://flic.kr/p/WFMXXF) by a lostpony (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150664916@N03/), on Flickr
scary, huh? I'd buy it.
Ironically in the news yesterday in the SF Bay area, a kayak was bitten by a great white and a jet almost landed on a taxiway. If only they had a pony this would have been a mashup of the news.
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I have kinda mixed feelings about these, I do like the new molds but I wish they were in more unique poses than the last fashion styles, I'm not sure if they're different enough from my current mane 6 to invest $60 in this set. I'm also not sure I have the space! :P I also love love love they styled hair on them! Finally ponies with bangs I don't have to try and style myself! However I wish Twilight's colors were a little closer to the show (that shade of purple they used for her body is atrocious, I wonder why they went so dark?) and it looks like they got Rainbow Dash's mane wrong still! Only the bangs are red/orange/yellow! I can see it peeking out behind her neck too, I hope it's not like all the other Rainbow releases where the blue and purple is only in he tail. :( I really want a Rainbow Dash with actual rainbow hair!
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I expect more sets to be released as well. We still have that Songbird Serenade one and some reboot-style Maud Pie and Coco Pommel. The Wonderbolts line also contained more sets.
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Since the thing I like most about the restyled G4s is their dynamic poses... these fashion styles don't do it for me! I think the rounder noses of the old style ones are far cuter...
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Wow, finally a set of G4s where there's actually a factory curl to speak of! Still, I can't get over their gray eye highlights :/ they're really cute otherwise.
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These huge target boxes are killing me! I love the FS ponies so much and being the first re-boot set this is a must have XD
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Passing on this one. I don't like the balloon-head 4.5's at all, and repeated releases of old ponies like Cheerilee and Lyra in new poses hasn't swayed me. I think I'll pick up some of the new movie characters like Sky Song, but definitely not more Mane 6.
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I like the set, will definitely get it but I have to say it, hasbro had the right wings for Princess Twilight in the G4 fashion Styles (at least they used it in the Sdcc glitter and crystals exclusive) and in the new small brushables (G4.5) they did molded them differently from the regular pegassus, why are they "regular" in this set? -_-
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@Olympus True! :snicker:
@lostpony That picture rocks so hard! Also, there are some strange coinkydinks in this world.
@Shy Violet Well said, little kids like variety, something Hasbro has forgotten and something most people know.
@orangepeachmango No. That's partially incorrect, kids do like variety. Even Transformers isn't this bad. Sure, there's returning fan favorites in every toyline but the newer or lesser used characters get fair amounts of rotation. MLP used to have that For 3 consecutive generations but now it doesn't and it's a baffling decision. My daughter loves all gens, she's had 2 Fluttershys, 3 Rainbowdashes and 2 Princess Lunas come her way and she's gotten rid of the excess and is always looking for new characters. Plus we're definitely allowed to have our opinions as this is a toy collecting forum.
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I remember liking ponies as a young kid, though I was around 11 when I started liking ponies. Not really sure if I was the target demographic since most pony collectors I know are younger than me. While I was going into my teens when I started liking ponies, others were between 3-8 probably.
Are there really 3-5 year olds who are insisting on having show accurate brushable hair? Most kids I know, as soon as that pony comes out of the box that hair isn't going to stay 'show accurate' very long. That's the story of brushable hair. The only people I really see having a fit over needing 'show accurate' ponies are in fact the new 'older' G4 fandom; not children.
I've been collecting ponies for 30+ years (since 83), even back in the day I never though, I totally need a show accurate First Tooth Baby pony. Actually I seem to remember seeing new ponies in the store before I even saw episodes of the show. Yea before internet and 50 billion channels. There were no 10 reruns of MLP in a row back in my day.
So saying they're making these 'show accurate' toys for children is probably a little bit of a stretch. Unless we're talking children as in 20something (LOL!).
While I don't have my own children I do have a lot of little cousins and I don't know any of those little kids who have ever decided to buy or want a toy because it had show accurate hair. :/
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I've been collecting ponies for 30+ years (since 83), even back in the day I never though, I totally need a show accurate First Tooth Baby pony. Actually I seem to remember seeing new ponies in the store before I even saw episodes of the show. Yea before internet and 50 billion channels. There were no 10 reruns of MLP in a row back in my day.
Well you can't really compare these things because the cartoon for g1 was just a toy ad, it was never as important as FiM
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I've been collecting ponies for 30+ years (since 83), even back in the day I never though, I totally need a show accurate First Tooth Baby pony. Actually I seem to remember seeing new ponies in the store before I even saw episodes of the show. Yea before internet and 50 billion channels. There were no 10 reruns of MLP in a row back in my day.
Well you can't really compare these things because the cartoon for g1 was just a toy ad, it was never as important as FiM
All of Hasbro's cartoons and movies are toy ads. You can have a fun cartoon that is still a toy ad. Saying FiM isn't a toy ad when it is just as much so as MLP and Friends, Tales, G3 and Newborn Cuties is incorrect.
Transformers, Joe and Jem fans know it. Moondreamer, M.A.S.K and Inhumanoid fans know it.
So why pretend that MLP is suddenly different and special and not like it's older incarnations and those other Hasbro franchises when it clearly isn't?
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I've been collecting ponies for 30+ years (since 83), even back in the day I never though, I totally need a show accurate First Tooth Baby pony. Actually I seem to remember seeing new ponies in the store before I even saw episodes of the show. Yea before internet and 50 billion channels. There were no 10 reruns of MLP in a row back in my day.
Well you can't really compare these things because the cartoon for g1 was just a toy ad, it was never as important as FiM
All of Hasbro's cartoons, movies and comics are toy ads. You can have a fun cartoon that is still a toy ad. Saying FiM isn't a toy ad when it is just as much so as MLP and Friends, Tales and G3 is incorrect.
That's not what i wanted to say.While FiM is still a toy ad, it became so important that for a lot of people it became what MLP is, instead of the toys.The older generations cartoons were never so popular that they became more popular than the toyline it was an ad for.
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I've been collecting ponies for 30+ years (since 83), even back in the day I never though, I totally need a show accurate First Tooth Baby pony. Actually I seem to remember seeing new ponies in the store before I even saw episodes of the show. Yea before internet and 50 billion channels. There were no 10 reruns of MLP in a row back in my day.
Well you can't really compare these things because the cartoon for g1 was just a toy ad, it was never as important as FiM
All of Hasbro's cartoons, movies and comics are toy ads. You can have a fun cartoon that is still a toy ad. Saying FiM isn't a toy ad when it is just as much so as MLP and Friends, Tales and G3 is incorrect.
That's not what i wanted to say.While FiM is still a toy ad, it became so important that for a lot of people it became what MLP is, instead of the toys.The older generations cartoons were never so popular that they became more popular than the toyline it was an ad for.
So older MLP cartoons were never popular? I'm really starting to get sick of this kind of retconning.
Contrary to popular belief, Friends and Tales were well received. Otherwise it wouldn't have survived.
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I've been collecting ponies for 30+ years (since 83), even back in the day I never though, I totally need a show accurate First Tooth Baby pony. Actually I seem to remember seeing new ponies in the store before I even saw episodes of the show. Yea before internet and 50 billion channels. There were no 10 reruns of MLP in a row back in my day.
Well you can't really compare these things because the cartoon for g1 was just a toy ad, it was never as important as FiM
All of Hasbro's cartoons, movies and comics are toy ads. You can have a fun cartoon that is still a toy ad. Saying FiM isn't a toy ad when it is just as much so as MLP and Friends, Tales and G3 is incorrect.
That's not what i wanted to say.While FiM is still a toy ad, it became so important that for a lot of people it became what MLP is, instead of the toys.The older generations cartoons were never so popular that they became more popular than the toyline it was an ad for.
So older MLP cartoons were never popular? Nice retconning.
Where did i say that?What i wanted to say all along was that g1 never needed show accurate toys because the show wasn't what was the most important thing, it was the toys.This balance changed for g4, where the show became more popular than the toys, mostly because of the brony fandom.
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You said it was never important.
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Are you reading only half of my sentences? What i said was that the older generations cartoons were never more important and popular than their toyline like FiM is to the g4 toyline.I never said they were never important.
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I bet the price point of $60 is with the idea of it being 33% off at the first sale...
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I bet the price point of $60 is with the idea of it being 33% off at the first sale...
QTF! They'll squeeze every last drop from those who just can't wait. Then when it does go on sale, everyone else will go "that's a great deal!"
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Hm its true $60 is a lot and these packs are slow to go on sale. They arent going to move superfast anymore than the current $60 wonderbolts set, but like the wonderbolts they will attract attention to the pony display area and i think that there's a movie.
Kids do care about show accuracy, at least some do anyway but they aren't as hardened as we are to make as big a deal about inaccuracy. That these ponies look more like the movie than the old toys is definitely going to drive them to want them and parents and adult collectors are going to indulge their children/inner-childs with this exhorbitant set of boring mane 6 ponies.
If theyre not for you, there are plenty of choices coming out. I for one am really excited about the new toys.
I think its been true, what jorgito said that in g4 the show has been more important than the toys and i've lamented Hasbro's neglect of the g4 toys up to this point. While the new molds arent always quite the best i think they could be, its clear to me that Hasbro has been listening and is shifting a lot more focus to the new toys than they have so far this generation and i'm happy about that. Still none of these are quite up to g1 standards so far in my view. G1 still the best toys but these are still pretty great.
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I've been collecting ponies for 30+ years (since 83), even back in the day I never though, I totally need a show accurate First Tooth Baby pony. Actually I seem to remember seeing new ponies in the store before I even saw episodes of the show. Yea before internet and 50 billion channels. There were no 10 reruns of MLP in a row back in my day.
Well you can't really compare these things because the cartoon for g1 was just a toy ad, it was never as important as FiM
I question the use of the word 'important' when discussing toys and cartoons LOL!! But that's probably because I'm in my 40's.
Post Merge: July 13, 2017, 10:47:13 AM
Are you reading only half of my sentences? What i said was that the older generations cartoons were never more important and popular than their toyline like FiM is to the g4 toyline.I never said they were never important.
But ya know, in context of little kids, you're kind of suggesting that the cartoon is more 'important' to kids now than kids of the 80's. Yea, that's why I got up at 630 am so I could watch a obscure cartoon called Honey Honey back in the 80's because I didn't care as much about cartoons. It's sort of saying that modern little kids give more of a crap over show accurate hair than say a kid from the 80's.
Because ya know, my post was in context to it being suggested that 'children' are insisting on having show accurate ponies for $60.
I think hasbro's marketing play on this is, the show accurate part is for the adults and that kids will end up with it because they like ponies, not automatically becuase 5 year olds are insisting on having show accurate hair because they're the ones demanding it.
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Yeah this 'show accurate' idea is definitely aimed at the older collectors, in my opinion. I'm not saying children won't notice the difference between what's on the screen and the toy in their hand. I think they definitely will, BUT it won't stop them from wanting/getting the toy.
I remember many times in my childhood I was quick enough to point out when a toy or coloring book didn't match the tv show/movie/whatever. But that didn't stop me from asking my parents for the toys and coloring books. It just wasn't important to me. And I think the toy companies know that too. They strive to make the character identifiable to the audience, but they didn't stress if they couldn't make the toy perfectly match what was on the screen.
Then all of a sudden came a large section of very vocal adult collectors into the MLP collecting world who can be very picky, and started pointed out all this stuff like the non-accurate hair and the molds that aren't like the Flash animation. And now we have this 'show accurate' molded hair and new body molds that try to perfectly mimic the style of animation in the show.
The toy line has definitely changed to match the market demand. Even though the FiM toys are still aimed at the younger market, Hasbro is listening to the vocal other collectors as well.
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So, I have some thoughts on show accuracy from kids and adults perspectives, for what they're worth.
As a little kid I cared very much about show accuracy of my toys, of course this was only the original Star Trek in the 70s (long since in rerun) and there weren't any such toys available to me at all so I made my own out of mostly wood. The hardest thing was the round part to make the Enterprise as I couldn't cut round pieces and I made phasers out of the crotch in a small tree branch (I was on the lookout for the right bits of wood for years after not making them anymore) and communicators out of the plastic woodwind reed-holders other students discarded stuck onto a bit of wood with wire to make the open-button and -- well you get the idea. Not exactly show accurate but I did my best. The uniforms of course were easy, they were just a T shirt. I was so excited when the movie was announced....
Eh I think it's far more important that these ponies look more like the Movie than the previous toys because some kids will have the Movie toys, and the other kids will want them. I always wanted the newer toys other kids had (hotwheels and stompers and whatnot), and by the time I had one they were no longer what anyone else wanted anymore but I kept them forever anyway. When deciding whether kids care about the "accuracy" of the hair it's important to realize kids these days have a lot more accuracy and information about their shows available to them than we did as kids so comparing them to us as far as whether they care about show accuracy is really more apples and oranges.
Bottom line is these ponies are not more accurate than the old ones anyway but they are updated to go with the movie, which is what I think will attract kids and grownups alike to them.
As far as crediting Hasbro for the "show-accurate" hair, remember this is a Target exclusive so it's more Target's thing than Hasbro's so we're talking about Target's marketing ideas not Hasbro's anyway. Maybe this set isn't really intended to sell so much as make the Target pony aisle look different from the pony aisle in other stores, or to have a "high-end" set for those parents and adults who want to spend more than $6, $15, or $25. I am sure some kids and collectors will want these special and expensive sets just to have the top-grade goodies that they can afford and have "better" toys than their friends, no? I know less of us adult collectors want Mimic or Repunzel just to have better ponies than other people (at least I hope not) but remember as kids, we did kinda want our toys to be better than other kids toys didn't we? At least a little? I assume that this, at least, is still applicable to current kids because some things never change.
And just like when I was a kid, I'm still more than happy with the formerly-better toys that end up discarded and unwanted. So I'll be more than happy to find these later in the $2 bags with their "show accurate" hair cut off or frizzed, and their bodies scraped, chewed and marked.
At any rate I look forward to these dressing up my Target pony hunts whether anyone buys them or not. Thanks Target!
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I know less of us adult collectors want Mimic or Repunzel just to have better ponies than other people (at least I hope not) but remember as kids, we did kinda want our toys to be better than other kids toys didn't we?
I bought 80's ponies in the store when they were new so I don't particularly remember needing my toys to be 'better' than other kids :/ But since I was around 11 when I started I wasn't abusing my toys like say a 3 year old might.
As far as Mimic and Rapunzel goes, I usually annoy people when I tell them what I paid for mine but then again, I was buying them in the 80's opposed to 20 years later when everyone and they're cousin decided they were hard to find rare items.
It's kind of like argentina ponies, when I first got online I was buying them for $20 still on card, now people are charging $100's for them looking like they escaped the glue factory.
But as a kid I don't know if I ever thought about needing my toys to be better than other kids?? I guess I never really looked at it that way...and I don't remember wanting toys just because other kids had those toys or because there was a commercial or cartoon. (shrugs)
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I think they are just trying to make them look better so that kids and collectors will be more interested. While kids might be willing to overlook inaccuracies, if they have a choice of something that only vaguely resembles a beloved character or something that looks just like them, most of the time they will pick the one that looks just like the character.
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Yeah but Hasbro still isn't thinking. What parent is going to pay $60 for 6 toys their kids already have, and if they don't, why pay that much when they can buy the little singles for $3-$5. Or the blind bags they can charitably cheat at?
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I did say I plan on getting these earlier, but just to add on, I really wish they would sell things that they have in these types of big sets separately too (or at least two packs). While $60 spread out wouldn't be too much of a big deal, I am still at the point where most things I get is with my parents' money since I do not yet have a job. It is much harder to get their permission for me to spend $60 all at once, compared to say, $10 or $20 per payweek.
It would be really nice if they were to release these (as well as the recently announced TRU 12 pack) separately or in smaller packs so that people could spread out the money spending, as opposed to spending $60 all at once.
Both these and all the ponies in the TRU 12 pack I really want, but it'll be difficult to get them if they are only available in these $60 packs, I can imagine it's the same case for many other people.
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I hope they do the other characters this size.
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Yeah but Hasbro still isn't thinking. What parent is going to pay $60 for 6 toys their kids already have, and if they don't, why pay that much when they can buy the little singles for $3-$5. Or the blind bags they can charitably cheat at?
To start with, parents whose kids are new pony fans and dont have the 6 already.
Hasbro is clearly thinking there will be a significant amount of them.
Having to buy the big set to get any of the special FSes inside has been a thing for a while now including the current wonderbolts set, the power ponies and i suspect other sets that i dont remember/dont know about.
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Well.
Call me crazy.
But I think $60 for 6 FS ponies is a good deal. ($10 per pony compared to $15 for a single). And I like that all of them are there. It really beats having to find them individually.
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Yeah but Hasbro still isn't thinking. What parent is going to pay $60 for 6 toys their kids already have, and if they don't, why pay that much when they can buy the little singles for $3-$5. Or the blind bags they can charitably cheat at?
To start with, parents whose kids are new pony fans and dont have the 6 already.
Hasbro is clearly thinking there will be a significant amount of them.
Having to buy the big set to get any of the special FSes inside has been a thing for a while now including the current wonderbolts set, the power ponies and i suspect other sets that i dont remember/dont know about.
And I just said, why should they grab that when blind bags that let you peak and singles are readily available for a fraction of that cost? Especially in this economy. You could probably get all 6 f them in BB form for kiddo for less then $20. Or grab 3 of the singles at a time for about $10-$15
My daughter's G4 collection is nearly done because of the blind bags and singles. She really only needs a few that haven't been released yet and 2 that have been eluding her.
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Well.
Call me crazy.
But I think $60 for 6 FS ponies is a good deal. ($10 per pony compared to $15 for a single). And I like that all of them are there. It really beats having to find them individually.
Individual circumstance is everything.
$60 is definitely a good deal, but it's easier for some people to spend $60 on toys at once than it is for others. As I said, I still primarily rely on my parents to buy me the things I want. I'm still unemployed and that'll probably be the case for at least another year now. The fact that now every month we have to pay $100 (I think that was it) for the car my mom got two months ago certainly doesn't help.
They 100% are worth $60, I just wish I had the option of getting them individually and spending that $60 slowly over a longer period of time because that's easier for my family at the moment with our money circumstance. I just think it would be nice to have both this $60 pack for people who are able to spend it all at once, and individual releases (or 2-packs) for people who are unable to do that.
I do have a small side job right now where a local cafe commissions me to make a dessert for them, but as of right now I don't know how much money I will make from it nor how often it will happen. My mom also isn't too thrilled that I want to spend the money I make from it on toys.
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Well.
Call me crazy.
But I think $60 for 6 FS ponies is a good deal. ($10 per pony compared to $15 for a single). And I like that all of them are there. It really beats having to find them individually.
Individual circumstance is everything.
$60 is definitely a good deal, but it's easier for some people to spend $60 on toys at once than it is for others. As I said, I still primarily rely on my parents to buy me the things I want. I'm still unemployed and that'll probably be the case for at least another year now. The fact that now every month we have to pay $100 (I think that was it) for the car my mom got two months ago certainly doesn't help.
They 100% are worth $60, I just wish I had the option of getting them individually and spending that $60 slowly over a longer period of time because that's easier for my family at the moment with our money circumstance. I just think it would be nice to have both this $60 pack for people who are able to spend it all at once, and individual releases (or 2-packs) for people who are unable to do that.
I do have a small side job right now where a local cafe commissions me to make a dessert for them, but as of right now I don't know how much money I will make from it nor how often it will happen. My mom also isn't too thrilled that I want to spend the money I make from it on toys.
Well. I mean if you can't afford it, you can't afford it.
Let's be honest, there is a great chance that Target will want to sell this set during Christmas time. So it should be on the shelves November 15. There's 18 weeks till then. If you saved $3.50 each week till then you'll be able to afford $60.
Otherwise if you are doing it as a single set x 6 @$15 each, it's going to cost you $90 over time. If money is that tight, that seems like a waste of $30.
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Well. I mean if you can't afford it, you can't afford it.
Let's be honest, there is a great chance that Target will want to sell this set during Christmas time. So it should be on the shelves November 15. There's 18 weeks till then. If you saved $3.50 each week till then you'll be able to afford $60.
Otherwise if you are doing it as a single set x 6 @$15 each, it's going to cost you $90 over time. If money is that tight, that seems like a waste of $30.
It's out on the shelves now, isn't it? It certainly looks that way from the photos.
Okay now as of less than 5 minutes ago it seems like I will be getting a job soon? Yesterday my mom and I were starting to think it would be best for me to go to culinary school first but the lady at DVR thinks that it would be ideal for me to work first so I guess now that's what I'll be doing. Should be able to set a side a small amount of money (maybe $20?) each paycheck when I have a job and then get this set and that TRU one whenever that comes out.
Guess this will work for me after all! :happy:
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Well. I mean if you can't afford it, you can't afford it.
Let's be honest, there is a great chance that Target will want to sell this set during Christmas time. So it should be on the shelves November 15. There's 18 weeks till then. If you saved $3.50 each week till then you'll be able to afford $60.
Otherwise if you are doing it as a single set x 6 @$15 each, it's going to cost you $90 over time. If money is that tight, that seems like a waste of $30.
It's out on the shelves now, isn't it? It certainly looks that way from the photos.
Okay now as of less than 5 minutes ago it seems like I will be getting a job soon? Yesterday my mom and I were starting to think it would be best for me to go to culinary school first but the lady at DVR thinks that it would be ideal for me to work first so I guess now that's what I'll be doing. Should be able to set a side a small amount of money (maybe $20?) each paycheck when I have a job and then get this set and that TRU one whenever that comes out.
Guess this will work for me after all! :happy:
^_^ that's really exciting!
But yeah, as I mentioned, it's really likely that the stores will want these around for Christmas, so don't worry too much. In fact, it's possible around christmas time you can score a discount too ~
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Since these do seem to be out in at least some Target locations, does anyone here have them yet, or at least have found pictures taken by people who do of them out of their box? I'd love to be able to see more of what they look like! Especially Rarity's hair as its dark color makes it harder to see in the photo.
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Yeah I wonder will the mane and tail be full of that wax gunk like TRU Shadowbolt Rainbow Dash, in order to hold the hairstyle in place?
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Yeah I wonder will the mane and tail be full of that wax gunk like TRU Shadowbolt Rainbow Dash, in order to hold the hairstyle in place?
Yuck! XQ
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It seems to me the real reason they put these in big packs like this is to force us to buy more. Sure $10 dollars per pony is better than $15 per pony... but only if you intend to purchase all 6. The truth is if they were individual, most people would only buy their 1-3 favorites and leave the rest. This way they force you to buy the entire set while rationalizing that you are spending less when actually you are spending more if you don't want all the ponies in the set.
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It seems to me the real reason they put these in big packs like this is to force us to buy more. Sure $10 dollars per pony is better than $15 per pony... but only if you intend to purchase all 6. The truth is if they were individual, most people would only buy their 1-3 favorites and leave the rest. This way they force you to buy the entire set while rationalizing that you are spending less when actually you are spending more if you don't want all the ponies in the set.
Good points.
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Yeah but Hasbro still isn't thinking. What parent is going to pay $60 for 6 toys their kids already have, and if they don't, why pay that much when they can buy the little singles for $3-$5. Or the blind bags they can charitably cheat at?
To start with, parents whose kids are new pony fans and dont have the 6 already.
Hasbro is clearly thinking there will be a significant amount of them.
Having to buy the big set to get any of the special FSes inside has been a thing for a while now including the current wonderbolts set, the power ponies and i suspect other sets that i dont remember/dont know about.
And I just said, why should they grab that when blind bags that let you peak and singles are readily available for a fraction of that cost? Especially in this economy. You could probably get all 6 f them in BB form for kiddo for less then $20. Or grab 3 of the singles at a time for about $10-$15
My daughter's G4 collection is nearly done because of the blind bags and singles. She really only needs a few that haven't been released yet and 2 that have been eluding her.
That's like saying why do they make those big packs of Disney Princess dolls when there's the cheaper Little Kingdom figures. Some people who are better off financially will go for the big set as a gift. I'm sure the same thing was true for the G1 Birthday and Slumber Party sets that were probably equivalent in price to this pack.
It seems to me the real reason they put these in big packs like this is to force us to buy more. Sure $10 dollars per pony is better than $15 per pony... but only if you intend to purchase all 6. The truth is if they were individual, most people would only buy their 1-3 favorites and leave the rest. This way they force you to buy the entire set while rationalizing that you are spending less when actually you are spending more if you don't want all the ponies in the set.
While often the way it works out in real life is that most kids end up with only a few from a set most would want all the characters if that was an option. Look at how many people on here are chasing down those set completers.
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Yeah but the G1 Birthday Party and Slumber Party Packs came with toys and accessories that were exclusive and unique to those sets Wardah. It wasn't all six collector ponies both times.
That's my point. Paying more for a unique set of toys is one thing, but shelling out big bucks for the same toys that a child already has/or can be bought cheap and easy everywhere is another thing entirely.
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It seems to me the real reason they put these in big packs like this is to force us to buy more. Sure $10 dollars per pony is better than $15 per pony... but only if you intend to purchase all 6. The truth is if they were individual, most people would only buy their 1-3 favorites and leave the rest. This way they force you to buy the entire set while rationalizing that you are spending less when actually you are spending more if you don't want all the ponies in the set.
No one is being forced to buy these ponies. They are available individual as well (with outfits and accessories)
With the movie coming out there is going to be a higher interest in buying the mane 6. It's been hashed out time and again why the mane 6 remain on the store shelves.
Don't like them, don't buy them! Whatever the reason. Too expensive. Duplicate. Ugly. Too big. Not cost efficient. It's fine!
But they are on store shelves for a reason...
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... I think Applejack comes with her hat.
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Of course you cant buy my Pinky shark-jet (so many pages ago now) as a single or in the Everypony is Cartilaginous set.
As to why not blind bags those things are microscopic though its true almost Everypony in Equestria Ever fit on one shelf that way.
Really i'd buy this set if i had money laying around especially if i had a child to buy for who doesnt have a lot of ponies and is all excited about the movie.
Not everything is for everybody and unfortunately pony toys do cost a bit so economics is always a de-equalizer as kids learn where on the have/have not scale they are on pretty early. Its not great but its reality and toy companies arent philanthropists but profiteers. Its the world we live in and a part of why we'd like to escape to the pony world of our own making for at least a little while...isnt it?
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It seems to me the real reason they put these in big packs like this is to force us to buy more. Sure $10 dollars per pony is better than $15 per pony... but only if you intend to purchase all 6. The truth is if they were individual, most people would only buy their 1-3 favorites and leave the rest. This way they force you to buy the entire set while rationalizing that you are spending less when actually you are spending more if you don't want all the ponies in the set.
No one is being forced to buy these ponies. They are available individual as well (with outfits and accessories)
With the movie coming out there is going to be a higher interest in buying the mane 6. It's been hashed out time and again why the mane 6 remain on the store shelves.
Don't like them, don't buy them! Whatever the reason. Too expensive. Duplicate. Ugly. Too big. Not cost efficient. It's fine!
But they are on store shelves for a reason...
I'm not saying people can't refuse to buy them. I'm just saying that it is likely a factor in making these huge sets as opposed to releasing them singly or in pairs. And I'm not even just thinking of just this set. The new TRU set is 12 ponies for $60. That comes out to $5 a pony so the consumer isn't even getting a discount for buying in bulk. Sure, there will always be kids who don't yet have the mane6. Yadayadayada. I'm not arguing with that.
But how many *more* people are going to buy this set for just 4-6 less common ponies who would have not bought the rest of the ponies if they were all offered singly? That's money in Hasbro's pocket. They've "forced" you to buy more ponies than you might have otherwise. Alternatively, you could say that the consumer is paying extra for rarer ponies. Effectively, someone who doesn't want the mane6 is paying $10 per pony for the other 6 ponies in the pack.
Side note: I also feel FS sized ponies for $10 isn't actually a discount so much as the lack of a bunch of accessories. The reason single FStyles are $15 is because they are sold with $5 worth of accessories. This is another example of "tricking" you into buying more. Remember in g1 when pony clothes were sold separately? Well, somewhere along the way, Hasbro must have figured out it was easier to get people to buy a pony w/ accessories for a higher price than to try to get them to buy just the accessories separately.
Oh, and last thing. The difference between the Target set and the single FS is the "show accurate" hair. That's the selling point for the large set. So yeah, if you don't care about that (which I don't) then you can absolutely get the mane 6 singly. But if show accuracy is big for you, then yes, you will have to decide whether buying the whole set is worth it to you or find some other way of getting the ponies you want second hand.
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When have all the Mane Six all been offered as Fashion Styling ponies at the same time? Usually two or three of them are offered concurrently, plus maybe a Princess Cadence, Luna, or Celestia, plus maybe a random pony or two (Royal Ribbon etc).
The nice thing about this set is that parents can grab all six ponies at once without paying scalper prices on eBay or hunting from store to store. Yeah, some kids already have some FS ponies. But some kids don't have any. And some kids are young enough that they are entirely new to MLP and don't have any toy ponies yet.
Right now Applejack is seven times as expensive as Pinkie Pie on eBay, because a) AJ hasn't been in as many FS sets and b) AJ is shortpacked when she IS included. Having all the ponies packed together lessens this issue.
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That's right Sunset and LadyMoondancer but, in this case you also do get one rare accessory: Applejack's hat! What a bonus.
All this discussion is making me want one. Who knows, maybe I'm temporarily rich when I see it or if it goes on sale when I'm not broke....I miiiight just get them.
I got two Power Ponies at thrift and they are really different than the lose FSs. All together in the box you don't really see how different they are. I don't know about the other big multi-sets but I think the ponies are probably different enough to make each of them in the sets uniquely collectible but like I said above, I don't mind having 10 Pinkys etc and I actually am missing quite a few of the FSes now I think about it.
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Yeah I wonder will the mane and tail be full of that wax gunk like TRU Shadowbolt Rainbow Dash, in order to hold the hairstyle in place?
I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case :(
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It seems to me the real reason they put these in big packs like this is to force us to buy more. Sure $10 dollars per pony is better than $15 per pony... but only if you intend to purchase all 6. The truth is if they were individual, most people would only buy their 1-3 favorites and leave the rest. This way they force you to buy the entire set while rationalizing that you are spending less when actually you are spending more if you don't want all the ponies in the set.
No one is being forced to buy these ponies. They are available individual as well (with outfits and accessories)
With the movie coming out there is going to be a higher interest in buying the mane 6. It's been hashed out time and again why the mane 6 remain on the store shelves.
Don't like them, don't buy them! Whatever the reason. Too expensive. Duplicate. Ugly. Too big. Not cost efficient. It's fine!
But they are on store shelves for a reason...
I'm not saying people can't refuse to buy them. I'm just saying that it is likely a factor in making these huge sets as opposed to releasing them singly or in pairs. And I'm not even just thinking of just this set. The new TRU set is 12 ponies for $60. That comes out to $5 a pony so the consumer isn't even getting a discount for buying in bulk. Sure, there will always be kids who don't yet have the mane6. Yadayadayada. I'm not arguing with that.
But how many *more* people are going to buy this set for just 4-6 less common ponies who would have not bought the rest of the ponies if they were all offered singly? That's money in Hasbro's pocket. They've "forced" you to buy more ponies than you might have otherwise. Alternatively, you could say that the consumer is paying extra for rarer ponies. Effectively, someone who doesn't want the mane6 is paying $10 per pony for the other 6 ponies in the pack.
Side note: I also feel FS sized ponies for $10 isn't actually a discount so much as the lack of a bunch of accessories. The reason single FStyles are $15 is because they are sold with $5 worth of accessories. This is another example of "tricking" you into buying more. Remember in g1 when pony clothes were sold separately? Well, somewhere along the way, Hasbro must have figured out it was easier to get people to buy a pony w/ accessories for a higher price than to try to get them to buy just the accessories separately.
Oh, and last thing. The difference between the Target set and the single FS is the "show accurate" hair. That's the selling point for the large set. So yeah, if you don't care about that (which I don't) then you can absolutely get the mane 6 singly. But if show accuracy is big for you, then yes, you will have to decide whether buying the whole set is worth it to you or find some other way of getting the ponies you want second hand.
Toys R Us pack is different. I'm purely talking about the Mane 6 FS pack from Target. I'm only talking about this pack, and no other pack in pony history.
I'm talking about WHY someone would pick up the pack. Not the many reasons why people won't pick up the pack.
But no once is being forced to buy something. Someone might find value in a $10 per pony, someone might find value with accessories, and some people wait to find things second hand or clearance because they don't find any value in MSRP.
That's right Sunset and LadyMoondancer but, in this case you also do get one rare accessory: Applejack's hat! What a bonus.
Funny story! When I bought FS Applejack when she was new (but htf) on shelves... I tried to give away her accessories for free (including the hat). No one wanted it. And I trashed it.
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Well, technically they are making you buy the whole set if you would prefer to have one out of the set :P So it's technically true that you have to buy 5 other ponies if you only like/want to buy 1 pony in this set.
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Well, technically they are making you buy the whole set if you would prefer to have one out of the set :P So it's technically true that you have to buy 5 other ponies if you only like/want to buy 1 pony in this set.
Yes, thank you!
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Well, technically they are making you buy the whole set if you would prefer to have one out of the set :P So it's technically true that you have to buy 5 other ponies if you only like/want to buy 1 pony in this set.
Yes, thank you!
Meh, I'm tired of sets. I would rather just buy one pony at a time and not be forced to have every single pony because they're just releasing the same thing over and over.
But I get it, apparently sets are a thing now, I'd rather go back to a wall of individual ponies where I could at least pick and choose. This obsession with sets at target and toys r us....meh...you end up dropping $100 on a bunch of ponies you've already bought 5 times before.
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Well, technically they are making you buy the whole set if you would prefer to have one out of the set :P So it's technically true that you have to buy 5 other ponies if you only like/want to buy 1 pony in this set.
Yes, thank you!
Ok, I would agree if there was a pony in the set that was not obtainable by any other means... which HAS happened in the past. That's why I stressed I'm only talking about this set.
But all of these will be available as singles. I don't know what else to say.
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I got two Power Ponies at thrift and they are really different than the lose FSs. All together in the box you don't really see how different they are. I don't know about the other big multi-sets but I think the ponies are probably different enough to make each of them in the sets uniquely collectible
These seem to be new molds so yeah.
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...No one is being forced to buy these ponies...I'm not saying people can't refuse to buy them...
Of course everyone is mandated to buy this set, haha. These ARE the droids ponies you are looking for....
If I might chop up this quote to take it out completely of context (sorry KarentheUnicorn):
...I would rather just buy one pony at a time
...I'd rather go back to a wall of individual ponies where I could at least pick and choose.
...a bunch of ponies you've already bought 5 times before.
I felt this way about the G1 lots on eBay after I got my first few and I'm so grateful to have the For Sale forum here to pick and choose ponies from, so when I get a big box of ponies from a member here, every one of them is one I wanted. Except for the surprise extras and those are the best!
I'm just sayin'. Those who really want just one or two from this set can always sell the rest, or buy the same way. I remember a long time ago when groups of kids would sometimes get together to buy things in multipacks and divide them up, does that kind of thing happen anymore? Probably not too common I guess...
I think these sets are a fun option and while I almost always like to buy one at a time, to the point of being unhappy at the extra Twilight Sparkle I had to buy to get Skystar, all six together in movie hair is sounding like a fun indulgence, with the orderly display box that says don't-touch-me, I'm too pretty. Why not?
When I bought FS Applejack when she was new (but htf) on shelves... I tried to give away her accessories for free (including the hat). No one wanted it. And I trashed it.
Sacrilege! :sad:
haha. poor little hat.
Might end up in a museum 100,000 years from now as evidence that we had civilization because we had pony hats.
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Well, technically they are making you buy the whole set if you would prefer to have one out of the set :P So it's technically true that you have to buy 5 other ponies if you only like/want to buy 1 pony in this set.
Yes, thank you!
Ok, I would agree if there was a pony in the set that was not obtainable by any other means... which HAS happened in the past. That's why I stressed I'm only talking about this set.
But all of these will be available as singles. I don't know what else to say.
duntduntduuuuuuu, by any other means!!! Now I'm picturing an indiana jones scene, trying to obtain one of the Target exclusive we must dodge giant rolling ball down Target isle to get the show accurate hair rainbow dash fashion style in new updated body mold with snobby nose.
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Well, technically they are making you buy the whole set if you would prefer to have one out of the set :P So it's technically true that you have to buy 5 other ponies if you only like/want to buy 1 pony in this set.
Yes, thank you!
Ok, I would agree if there was a pony in the set that was not obtainable by any other means... which HAS happened in the past. That's why I stressed I'm only talking about this set.
But all of these will be available as singles. I don't know what else to say.
I think we've been talking at cross purposes because you replied to my original post in which I was *not* talking about *only* this set but replying to the general comments on " why do they keep releasing big sets."
Also, I get the feeling that my words are being interpreted as being very complaintive when I was more trying to have an intellectual discussion. (Though I admit to finding it irritating having to find something to do with the one millionth Pinkie next time I choose to buy a set.)
Lastly, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on the availability of *these* paticular ponies in *this* set... Not "OMG Show Accurate Hair" Fashion Styles, at any rate. Cause that's the pattern to the Target exclusives. There is a unifying theme with one large pack of 6 Fashion Style ponies and smaller sets and singles of Playful sized ponies and that paticular theme isn't available in any other way. That's what makes them exclusive.
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I think we've been talking at cross purposes because you replied to my original post in which I was *not* talking about *only* this set but replying to the general comments on " why do they keep releasing big sets."
Also, I get the feeling that my words are being interpreted as being very complaintive when I was more trying to have an intellectual discussion. (Though I admit to finding it irritating having to find something to do with the one millionth Pinkie next time I choose to buy a set.)
Lastly, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on the availability of *these* paticular ponies in *this* set... Not "OMG Show Accurate Hair" Fashion Styles, at any rate. Cause that's the pattern to the Target exclusives. There is a unifying theme with one large pack of 6 Fashion Style ponies and smaller sets and singles of Playful sized ponies and that paticular theme isn't available in any other way. That's what makes them exclusive.
I'm the only one who mentioned a price of $10 per pony vs $15 single pony, and the post I quoted you on didn't mention any other set-- only this set. So I sort of figured your quote in this post had something to do with mine. And my post only had referred to this set, as that's what the topic is. ... Sorry? Although we did diverge.
Dumb-dumb me didn't realize these had show accurate hair. However.. :/ I think that hair is pretty meh, and lots of people have styled their ponies in show accurate hair better.
It's Target that pushed for this set. They don't know enough to assume that that buyers are going to just buy a whole set for a single pony with show accurate hair. They are thinking that with the movie coming out, and this new revamped line, that people will like a full set with show accurate hair.
:/ While I don't know anything about the buyer for toys at Target, I do hear enough about Target and their tastes and what is "Target" brand through the grape vine... though people who currently work with and have worked with Target branding.
As for toys r us, it's probably like "We want a pack for christmas season, but need to keep costs down, so let's put recycled ponies in the pack". THAT I'm guessing because I don't know anything about TRU.
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Haha "recycled ponies" makes me think of the Rainbow Factory a little bit.
(anyone who doesn't know what I mean, you don't want to know it's awful)
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well, I just bought my set. "this" is my MLP purchase until xmas because I've decided to pass on the fishy stuff.
lol my rationalization eh?
wait wrong thread I bought the TRU one with Big Mac. sorry.
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Depending on the quality of the hair in this set and whether I ever find it at a discount...I would consider getting this for that Applejack. I love the fact that she has three rows of plugs for her fringe. But I really hope that the single-packed FS Applejack will also have that fringe as well, so I won't have to buy this huge thing for one pony. I don't want to sound like I'm preoccupied with things being "show accurate"...I just think Applejack looks cute with bangs. My favorite G4 is still her original Fashion style with the bangs, after all :)
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As a collector, these don't appeal to me at all. I don't collect G4, though, so my opinion on this one means nothing.
As a parent of pony loving kids? I know we will end up with these in the house. My seven year old daughter is "over" the mane 6 and is collecting G1 and G3 now because new characters are hard to come by in G4 releases. My 3 year old wants 10,000 Twilights and will never turn down the other five so she can have friends. I can see this set under the Christmas tree this year.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BXL7Zx4DL3d/
There's also this set and while I must have it because pearly translucent things are the best, I wish Celestia and Cadence's colors were swapped.
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Those look pretty nice Wardah but how do you know how big they are? I can't tell.
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Wow, that's a weirdly dumpy-looking Tempest. Also, a bit of a problem when you make the princesses the same mold and basically same color - I don't know about you, but I couldn't tell the difference at a glance. But hey, at least the mane 6 look good!
...even more mane 6...
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Yeah I can't see myself buying the blindbag set. Four figures I already have, two that are easily available by themselves, the three princesses look too similar... the only thing it really has going for it is Tempest but I'm not going to buy this just for her.
I wish they had instead made a pack featuring blindbag figures for every new movie character, as opposed to only Tempest. That I would buy.
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I saw this set at Target but I think I caught them on a restock day because there was almost nothing in the pony aisle
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I like Pearly Luna, the rest look kinda off.
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Lots of really interesting points in this discussion.
With the FS size ponies, I think it's plain Hasbro just found another way to release the mane 6 and that the hair accuracy isn't so much them changing the line to suit pressure from vocal fans but them realising that here's a way to get all the people who did or didn't already buy mane six toys to buy more mane six toys at relatively little extra expense. They are going to use those poses over and over, probably to produce the same characters, so making some with their hair that way is a fairly small gamble on Hasbro's part. And making it a Target exclusive gives Target some kudos while also making sure they're not producing gazillions of sets that might shelf-sit.
I imagine they will have very gelled forelocks/fringes and probably manes. But for the people who care about the style of the hair being accurate rather than the brushability that isn't so much an issue, since if you wanted to restyle them it is just as easy to get a different version of the same pony, as others have mentioned.
I know this has been discussed but I genuinely don't understand the logic of why kids now would want twenty of the same pony. I mean, we never did, and I don't think kids now do, either. The shelf sitting ponies are the mane six in general, here. I have seen little girls go through the whole rack of ponies to look for a specific one. They have to keep the Mane 6 on shelves for the new people coming into the franchise, but I think they overdo it. And I agree with Uni that the specifics of the hair coupled with the set name being a "collection" is a little more targeted to an older fan audience of show faithful than the kids. FIM is important to the toyline but it is an assumption that the mane six are automatically the favourite characters of the kids watching. I saw a little girl today walking around with her plushie Luna. Being forcefed the same characters isn't the same as liking them best. If that's all there is, then they are kind of limited so we don't really know how they might feel about more diversity. It would be like G1 only ever being the first six collector ponies, but the cartoon including all of the ponies from y2 and y3 as well.
As a child who grew up with comic stories with tons of unicorns and pegasus ponies that were never sold here as toys, I can relate to that frustration. I just wanted a Glory and a Medley, but no, just lots of Posey and Cherries Jubilee...so I got Cherries Jubilee, but I always WANTED Glory and Medley ;)
Do kids care about show accuracy? The discussion about that reminded me of Jem, which is a much better comparison than G1 MLP because it covered every character produced as a doll and Hasbro went nuts in certain episodes (Glitter and Gold is probably the worst) to make as many of their new fashions appear as possible. Jetta and Raya live in their original outfits for the whole of the 2-part Talent Show episode that introduces them, and Clash's hair changes colour from teal/red to purple when the purple haired doll comes out. So they are definitely using it as a marketing base. BUT they release 2 sets of Holograms and Misfits across the years, plus fashion. Jem only survived 3 years but in that time, how show-accurate were they, really? Jem the animation I think was much more important to how kids viewed the toy line than G1 MLP was because MLP continued on after the show ended, and Jem didn't. But though the animation continued to show the Misfits with much more dramatic make up, the dolls never had it in first or second release, or in any of the many minor production variations across that time. And kids still bought them. The same applies to the fashions. Every Jem collector knows that Pizzazz wears the Winning is Everything outfit in the Universal Appeal music video, even though the design and colour vary so much from what Hasbro actually produced. And yet it became one of the most common fashions second-hand, so kids really didn't seem to mind.
IT has reproduced many of these characters for adult collectors now and they are more show accurate. I think it is more of an older collector thing to become that invested in detail (though as lostpony pointed out, there are always going to be exceptions).
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Those are some good points Taffeta.
I speculate that little girls probably care a lot more in general about the Princesses than they do about most of the 6 and I don't think children probably for the most part want many of the same thing. There might be something to them wanting variations, such as all-over cutie marks or some hair variance but for the most part the Mane 6 over and over seems more a brand-recognition/keeping the main characters on the shelf for new people thing.
I think we probably read too much into the excessive reuse of the Mane 6. The quantities of these that are made make them comparatively cheap to produce. After all the cool stuff is gone from the shelf, the same old 6 are left behind. It doesn't mean Hasbro really expects us to buy them, they just want them to perpetually be there. Those characters who aren't made in as large a quantity cost more to produce so it's more important that those sell out, and demand for them is uncertain as they aren't in most episodes, and so they don't want those to get stuck on the shelf. It's not a brand-recognition thing for example to have Coloratura on the shelf all the time. If you snooze, you lose and Coloratura is gone, and her costs are met and her profits are in. If there are a thousand of the 6 sitting around unsold, that's fine because the production cost is met long ago and that inventory sitting on the shelf ensures that a new viewer can always find the basics. Does this make any sense? It's speculation anyway; I don't know maybe Hasbro really does expect them all to sell. I don't think they do. They care about making sure the pony sections don't disappear entirely during the time when there is nothing new on the shelf. Why Starlight and Luna or the CMCs are not considered staples that should always be on the shelf is a good question and a possible hole in my "theory".
Show accuracy is a weird thing. I remember as a kid of the 70s hooked on long-dead Star Trek reruns that I was first surprised that there were action figures, then more surprised at how bad they were. I mean, if not for the size and uniform, Kirk is indistinguishable from Ken. Lame. As a kid I would have cared a lot, and in the 80s while I didn't like GI-Joe, I liked that its action figures actually looked like the show so I had one action figure to model accessories on the windowsill. I really don't think other kids cared about accuracy like I did though, I have OCD and always have, and most people are into other things like getting new stuff, breaking it in play and then throwing it away when the next thing comes...so I really have no idea. I wonder if any market research has even been attempted; I've never seen anyone with clipboards harassing TRU customers and their kids for their opinions or anything, and a lot of the after-purchase reviews are clearly written by the parents who are more concerned about how much they paid for something and how long the child played with it before they whined for another new thing than the toy itself (Starlily reviews in particular, mostly mis-truths by parents angry their kid made them spend over $100 on one thing that required them to spend another $8 for batteries and zero information about the actual toy itself: "she eats batteries" when they last almost a year and "she should do more" when you don't see most of what she does unless you play with her for hours). I really doubt toy companies really give a damn if kids like the toys anyway, as long as they clamor until the parents to buy them.
Anyone here have direct information from their kids whether the toys looking like the show matters? That's the only way we're going to get real information and we need a lot of it to draw any real conclusions from it.
edit: I forgot to tie these thoughts together and into the topic of the Magic of Everypony set.
It's pretty clear that Hasbro's rebooting/updating the art with the release of the movie so this set is probably targeted to anyone who excited about the new look, and the "accurate" hair not only makes them a bit more attractive to those of us who care, but also distinguishes them a little bit from the rest of the new toys giving us (adult and child alike) a reason to want the complete set of the new 6 in the new style.
It's compelling, and as much as I don't want to blow $60 in one chunk, if I have the money available without too much pain I will probably buy them when I see them.
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I know this has been discussed but I genuinely don't understand the logic of why kids now would want twenty of the same pony. I mean, we never did, and I don't think kids now do, either.
When something is as character driven as FIM is most kids are going to get attached to a certain character. (Occasionally it might be a reoccurring backgrounder like Luna or Celestia which is probably why the princesses also get a lot of merch). Think of it as similar to why a kid would want to get every single Elsa doll. A kid who likes Elsa might have a doll in her coronation dress and her ice dress and a doll of her as a toddler and a doll of her in her spring outfit and so on. Just like a kid who likes Rainbow Dash might have her regular brushable and the one that lights up and the one with tinsel hair and the one with cutie marks down her legs and the translucent one and so on. Because each one is a different figure of their favorite character.
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I know this has been discussed but I genuinely don't understand the logic of why kids now would want twenty of the same pony. I mean, we never did, and I don't think kids now do, either.
When something is as character driven as FIM is most kids are going to get attached to a certain character. (Occasionally it might be a reoccurring backgrounder like Luna or Celestia which is probably why the princesses also get a lot of merch). Think of it as similar to why a kid would want to get every single Elsa doll. A kid who likes Elsa might have a doll in her coronation dress and her ice dress and a doll of her as a toddler and a doll of her in her spring outfit and so on. Just like a kid who likes Rainbow Dash might have her regular brushable and the one that lights up and the one with tinsel hair and the one with cutie marks down her legs and the translucent one and so on. Because each one is a different figure of their favorite character.
My objection was the generalised assumption that that's what kids do. Some do, but I don't think it's something "kids do". It's also a matter of disposable income, because if kids only get ponies from time to time, to play ponies properly they will need to have all the characters, not ten of the same one. I think that it's just as likely or actually more likely that an adult collector is going to go to town on all the variations than the kids. I can understand them buying two or three versions of the same ponies, but the issue is the quantity of mane 6 that are produced. No child anywhere is logically going to want all of those versions of one character. And it's an assumption that the mane six must be their favourites. Having seen how Pretzel, Coloratura etc sold better than the gazillionth Pinkie and Dash and Twilight kind of backs that up. Kids don't want to buy the same ponies over and over. They want to buy different ponies too.
It just seems patronising to kids to assume they're happy to just buy the same pony over and over instead of wanting variety. I know that when I was a kid and my sister had a few ponies I had, it was annoying - I liked it better when she had different ponies to me because it made for better and more varied games. Why should kids now be any different?
Something being character driven does not mean the people collecting it lose their interest in multiple characters. Hasbro are great at marketing the same toys over and over but the bottom line is that it's the mane six that always shelfsit and go on clearance. Smyths here had the ones with glitter in their hair on shelves for three years. Especially Rainbow Dash.
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Not sure if this is relevant, but when I was a kid, Pikachu was my absolute least favorite Pokemon because there was so much merch of it. Most of my friends felt the same way. Sure, Pikachu gets lots of screen time, so it's easy to market. But when a little kid goes to the toy stores and there's about a million Pikachu toys, but all the kid wanted was a Luxray (just a random example)... I don't know, I don't think it's too outrageous to say that kids will notice when they're getting the same toys over and over.
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as much as i dislike grtting the mane 6 + princesses ad nausium , one redeeming quality of G4.5 is the variety of poses they are making. I think a lot of them are done in maybe 3 poses depending on which set they come in. so i am enjoying that. better than just four flat feet + "Omigosh Raised Hoof!!!!". ;)
so there's that.
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Exactly @Taffeta and @Luxray! Fizzy was my favorite pony and I didn't need ten more of her! I was happy having my one. I had a good variety of ponies, my cousins had a good variety, my friends had variety, my daughter has variety.
This isn't like eating all the strawberry Starbursts first, the mane six is pushed way too much, too often and other characters don't get proper rotation or decent distribution. Plus having new characters constantly packaged with the old ones you can get everywhere is tiresome. I don't even think the Core Seven ever got quite this bad.
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the mane sux
Is this an expression now? Love it :lol:
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the mane sux
Is this an expression now? Love it :lol:
No that was a typo. >_< Typing on a phone with long nails is a pain in the butt. You can use it if you want.
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the mane sux
Is this an expression now? Love it :lol:
LOL!
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The newest FiM meme! and how could it take us so long to stumble onto it?
Even as a typo. Seems something that goes with Storm King's "friendship, and ponies, and blaaahh"
Aaaand, how many six could the mane six suck if the mane sux could suck *typo.
I really don't think they actually suck though, they're just overused.
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The newest FiM meme! and how could it take us so long to stumble onto it?
Even as a typo. Seems something that goes with Storm King's "friendship, and ponies, and blaaahh"
Aaaand, how many six could the mane six suck if the mane sux could suck *typo.
I really don't think they actually suck though, they're just overused.
Blaah humbug? ;)