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Messages - Baby Sugarberry
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« on: December 24, 2018, 03:54:34 PM »
What do you mean by mold? Mildew, age spots, black mold, rust slime, or even something that might be mistaken as mold? Pictures are helpful, if you have them!
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« on: December 24, 2018, 03:51:46 PM »
Why are you so intense on this word?
Why are you so adamantly against it? *confused* I would have happily left it at one post, and now I'm asking what would be preferred instead of 'bootleg' @LadyMoondancer. Seriously and un-ironically. If there's a better word please propose it, so we can leave this behind and continue with the topic. I'm definitely not against a different term if there's one that fits better. As for quoting, I was under the impression that this was generally proper forum etiquette when referring to a portion (but not the entirety) of another person's post, so the context would be clear. Should I not be quoting other posts?
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« on: December 24, 2018, 11:32:15 AM »
 The definition of 'bootleg' hardly runs into human rights issues, so that's a lovely case of false equivalency you've got there. Yes, language and its definitions change with usage. As far as I'm aware though, there isn't a more appropriate word to use currently. 'Counterfeit' implies an imitation, probably of lesser quality, and an intent to deceive. So does 'forgery'. 'Pirated' has connotations of stolen, or smuggled. What word would you propose instead?
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« on: December 24, 2018, 09:39:59 AM »
Eh.
I feel like not all ponies that hit taobao go for sale on there for the same reason, especially in the earlier days.
You are of course entitled to feel any way you want, but the reason why ponies are sold on TaoBao is because they know they'll sell for good money (relative to how much a factory/worker can get per piece to the legitimate owner of the product.) Nothing coming from TaoBao is sold with the consent of Hasbro, which makes them by definition 'bootleg'.
I was talking about the reason the pony produced, not why they show up on taobao. (ie some are created by factory workers, some are rejects, and some are pre-production for hasbro that get changed for production -- like minty, or the sdcc pony).
I agree nothing that is sold by taobao is sold with the consent of hasbro -- 100%. I disagree that makes everything a bootleg. I have a different definition. We've already discussed our differences in the past ,and it's not needed to do again.
I think the video explains well enough why I agree that I think this pony was created by Hasbro, but did not make it to production. Which fits what your definition of a prototype is.
*headtilt* I thought I did address why they're produced - because they sell well to collectors. Anytime there's a market, generally you'll have business looking to fill that demand. I'm also a bit puzzled on how we can differ on the meaning of bootleg, since it's got a pretty clear definition. bootleg |ˈbo͞otˌleg| adjective [ attrib. ] (esp. of liquor, computer software, or recordings) made, distributed, or sold illegally: bootleg cassettes | bootleg whiskey. So if it's being made and/or sold without Hasbro's consent, that makes it a bootleg... even if the exact same product or something similar is legitimately sold later. And for prototypes I wouldn't consider something with more than a few copies a prototype. Pretty sure there are more than 5+ of most of the TaoBaos, and they don't really have any of the other hallmarks of a true prototype either, such as being partially finished, partially handmade or painted, clear variants or progressions on a design, etc.
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« on: December 23, 2018, 04:53:06 PM »
Takaras are legitimate My Little Ponies - they were licensed out from Hasbro and developed specifically for the non-western markets they were sold in. Definitely not fakies.
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« on: December 23, 2018, 04:50:58 PM »
Eh.
I feel like not all ponies that hit taobao go for sale on there for the same reason, especially in the earlier days.
You are of course entitled to feel any way you want, but the reason why ponies are sold on TaoBao is because they know they'll sell for good money (relative to how much a factory/worker can get per piece to the legitimate owner of the product.) Nothing coming from TaoBao is sold with the consent of Hasbro, which makes them by definition 'bootleg'.
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« on: December 23, 2018, 10:31:49 AM »
While I can't help you with exact chronology, from what I remember the pony you're referring to was one of the earlier TaoBao finds. They're also probably not prototypes, but bootlegs or grey market variants. Pretty much all TaoBao ponies were produced explicitly for direct consumer sale, where a prototype generally refers to a single or small run of ponies - often partially finished or handmade - that were created at the behest of Hasbro to see what the toy would look like before committing to a full production run.
If there are more than a handful of something, it's probably not a genuine prototype.
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« on: December 20, 2018, 03:14:26 PM »
 'chaotic neutral Care Bears' is probably the best description of Popples I've come across. Accurate. I had Puzzle Popple as a kid and he was great - plush version of a chain mace when you whipped him around by his tail.
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« on: December 19, 2018, 10:43:17 PM »
Any OOAK owned by someone who will never sell = effectively priceless.
A better question would be 'what are the highest prices a pony has been offered for sale at', since you can't reasonably put a replacement price on something of which there is only one in the world known to exist, and it's never been available for purchase. Or better yet 'what is the highest price someone has been willing to pay for a pony'. I mean I could offer up an OOAK for a billion dollars, but if nobody is willing to spend that much, is it worth that amount?
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« on: December 18, 2018, 10:42:21 PM »
I have/had most of these - I don't remember if they did the full main cast in minis or not, I don't think so, but they're quite cute. They have hard plastic arms and legs, but cloth bodies and tails. The pouch elastics tend to wear out pretty easily.
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« on: December 17, 2018, 11:42:43 PM »
Seems fine to me? But I don't frequent FailBook, or any other social media platforms. Not interested in being the product.
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« on: December 15, 2018, 11:44:19 AM »
I don't do Christmas, but for birthday gifts etc., a bag is the way to go. It's reusable for the recipient, easy for me, everyone wins.
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« on: December 15, 2018, 11:42:51 AM »
'Baby Stockings' aka the Rice Crispies Baby Pony is so common, she's one of the only mail orders that you shouldn't feel bad about customizing if in poor condition. I've had probably 8+ over the years...
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« on: December 14, 2018, 07:08:34 PM »
Crunch Berry's the second Sundae Best I added to my collection, after Banana Surprise (who always seemed far more common to find than any other SB pony, weirdly.) Not my favourite of the set, and the one I got smelled more like play-doh than fruit? I think it's the pose + neon hair don't do it for me.
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« on: December 14, 2018, 07:05:20 PM »
These days I can't even get through my backlog of free entertainment. Don't think I've rented a movie since I was a kid. Pretty looking horse though!
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