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Title: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 20, 2018, 07:04:58 PM
You know what's really cute? That little stripe of complimentary color hair in unicorn hair.
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It's such a cute design quirk. I wish they had touched upon it in MLPn'Friends, maybe they mentioned it in the comics? Most standard Pony/Pegasus releases have one color for the mane and tail, at least up until, ehhh, year six or so? The multi-color hair without any unicorn horn has been limited to rainbow ponies or twinkle eye ponies. Even TAF seems to have included the magic hair stripe and left the pony/pegasus manes one-tone.
So...if unicorns have this magic stripe of hair, does anyone have headcanons for why unicorn newborns don't have this stripe?
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Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Khoufu on February 20, 2018, 07:08:23 PM
Maybe they grow it during puberty, or once they really get a grip on their magic powers, or simply when their magic abilities mature to their full (adult) power.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Safflower on February 20, 2018, 07:19:17 PM
They kind of stopped doing it for later years. For example, Boisenberry Pie. Later years had mostly theme and gimmick sets rather than just unicorn, pegasi, and earth sets too.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Gator on February 20, 2018, 07:28:41 PM
I love the magic hair stripe.  When I draw the later years unicorns, I sometimes add the stripe Hasbro denied them in real life. 
Here I gave Tabby a yellow stripe:
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Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 20, 2018, 07:41:11 PM
They kind of stopped doing it for later years. For example, Boisenberry Pie. Later years had mostly theme and gimmick sets rather than just unicorn, pegasi, and earth sets too.
It's interesting to see how they line changes as the years go on! I suppose from a business standpoint you have to keep the kids with pounds of ponies interested with new gimmicks and not just new characters.
Maybe they grow it during puberty, or once they really get a grip on their magic powers, or simply when their magic abilities mature to their full (adult) power.
I'd like to think of it as the latter two, sort of like G4's idea of cutie marks. Imagine if Rattles and Tattles got their stripes at different times! That'd be interesting for a story.
I love the magic hair stripe.  When I draw the later years unicorns, I sometimes add the stripe Hasbro denied them in real life. 
Here I gave Tabby a yellow stripe:
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She looks really cute with the yellow! Maybe that's why her design feels a bit plain to me otherwise. I mean, she does come with the yellow hair pick, but that's an accessory, not a feature.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Khoufu on February 20, 2018, 10:03:16 PM
I have Rattles, and love the idea of him and Tattles having different hair stripes so that they're not entirely identical. Like, if Rattles got blue and Tattles got red.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: PoserBeachball on February 21, 2018, 01:31:33 AM
I have Rattles, and love the idea of him and Tattles having different hair stripes so that they're not entirely identical. Like, if Rattles got blue and Tattles got red.

Now that's not much fun for mischievous twin babies if they can be easily recognised apart :) :) :)

I love the stripe.

Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Taffeta on February 21, 2018, 02:59:48 AM
This is one of the reasons I love Gypsy. She's a complete social renegade :) Aside those with rainbow hair (TE and Rainbow Ponies), the stripe in the unicorn hair happens all the way to 1987 (So Softs - Bangles, TAF Milky Way, and here, Buttons and Gusty from the movie line). All except Gypsy, who came out in 1986 but apparently stuck two hooves up at the idea of convention and didn't bother to have a streak. She had freckles instead ;)

On the stripe note, the Mountain Boys and Big Brothers also have this stripe feature. :) I don't know if we should consider that as them all being descended from unicorn blood or not though?

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Gypsy: Fashion Rebel :)

If you want to play genetics with the newborns, maybe stripes are recessive genes or maybe they grow into them as they get older...
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: PoserBeachball on February 21, 2018, 05:17:03 AM

On the stripe note, the Mountain Boys and Big Brothers also have this stripe feature. :) I don't know if we should consider that as them all being descended from unicorn blood or not though?


or was it the result of a rowdy Boys Night Out - someone got handy with some hair dye.........and they all had to try it? :) :)
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Khoufu on February 21, 2018, 09:44:33 AM
I have Rattles, and love the idea of him and Tattles having different hair stripes so that they're not entirely identical. Like, if Rattles got blue and Tattles got red.

Now that's not much fun for mischievous twin babies if they can be easily recognised apart :) :) :)

I love the stripe.
They can always dye their hair.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 21, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
I guess.  I just see it as ponies with variations in their hair. 
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 21, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
This is one of the reasons I love Gypsy. She's a complete social renegade :) Aside those with rainbow hair (TE and Rainbow Ponies), the stripe in the unicorn hair happens all the way to 1987 (So Softs - Bangles, TAF Milky Way, and here, Buttons and Gusty from the movie line). All except Gypsy, who came out in 1986 but apparently stuck two hooves up at the idea of convention and didn't bother to have a streak. She had freckles instead ;)

On the stripe note, the Mountain Boys and Big Brothers also have this stripe feature. :) I don't know if we should consider that as them all being descended from unicorn blood or not though?

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Gypsy: Fashion Rebel :)

If you want to play genetics with the newborns, maybe stripes are recessive genes or maybe they grow into them as they get older...


Gypsy!!!!! Neeeeeed!!! :drunk:
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Taffeta on February 21, 2018, 10:15:30 AM
LAW's avatar reminds me that the magic strike also manifests in 3 adult sea ponies and six (?) baby sea ponies. It's more widespread than we thought and must be an evolutionary anomaly...
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Lilja on February 21, 2018, 10:32:07 AM
I like the unicorn stripe! I guess the reason they got it originally was because in the first set every unicorn had either white hair or a white body. So the streak was added to have some more color variety. Later we got unicorns that didn't have white anywhere, but they still kept using the streak for a while. But white was still used for unicorns a lot, for the first few years with the exception of Minty they were the only ponies with (intentionally) white hair.

Sparkler was the first to break the pattern, and the first unicorn to get curly hair too. Majesty was the only unicorn to have both a white body and white in her hair, so that's pretty special. Although she was mostly shown without the white streak in official art work. I wonder if that was intentional.

I think it's nice with little details like this, that each species is given their own characteristics. The stripe does mark out the unicorns as special, which goes along nice with their magical qualities.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Taffeta on February 21, 2018, 10:46:22 AM
I like the unicorn stripe! I guess the reason they got it originally was because in the first set every unicorn had either white hair or a white body. So the streak was added to have some more color variety. Later we got unicorns that didn't have white anywhere, but they still kept using the streak for a while. But white was still used for unicorns a lot, for the first few years with the exception of Minty they were the only ponies with (intentionally) white hair.

You forgot Snowflake. Though she's another fashion rebel, as she breaks the glittery symbol rule.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Lilja on February 21, 2018, 10:59:27 AM
You forgot Snowflake. Though she's another fashion rebel, as she breaks the glittery symbol rule.

Yeah, her white hair is kind of another unicorn trait she appropriated, along with her glittery symbol. :biggrin: But all the ponies in that set break away from the patterns US ponies were following at the time. With the exception of Honeycomb. I don't think there's anything that sets her apart from other pegasi at the time.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Taffeta on February 21, 2018, 11:05:48 AM
You forgot Snowflake. Though she's another fashion rebel, as she breaks the glittery symbol rule.

Yeah, her white hair is kind of another unicorn trait she appropriated, along with her glittery symbol. :biggrin: But all the ponies in that set break away from the patterns US ponies were following at the time. With the exception of Honeycomb. I don't think there's anything that sets her apart from other pegasi at the time.

As PKW would say, It's 1986! A lot of weird happened then. You're right. Hopscotch and Honeycomb are pretty regular to their breeds and Cherries Jubilee and Posey change symbol (CJ hair as well to straight) but are basically themselves with no additions. It's Gypsy and Snowflake who are the troublemakers.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Khoufu on February 21, 2018, 11:09:51 AM
What's so strange about Snowflake? Is it that her symbol only has one color?
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Lilja on February 21, 2018, 11:14:12 AM
As PKW would say, It's 1986! A lot of weird happened then. You're right. Hopscotch and Honeycomb are pretty regular to their breeds and Cherries Jubilee and Posey change symbol (CJ hair as well to straight) but are basically themselves with no additions. It's Gypsy and Snowflake who are the troublemakers.
It's a subtle detail, but I believe Hopscotch is the first regular adult earth pony whose symbol is a single image, and not a small collection of the same object.

On the topic of streaks, what do we think of the fact that Magic Star and Truly both had a streak in their manes in their prototypes? Could they have been intended as unicorns at some point? Truly had a prototype baby that was a unicorn, and these ponies' symbols also seem to go along better with the themes unicorns/pegasi usually followed.
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Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Khoufu on February 21, 2018, 11:19:46 AM
Red and Green is a beautiful color combination. I wish it wasn't so heavily related to Christmas.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 21, 2018, 11:42:14 AM
As PKW would say, It's 1986! A lot of weird happened then. You're right. Hopscotch and Honeycomb are pretty regular to their breeds and Cherries Jubilee and Posey change symbol (CJ hair as well to straight) but are basically themselves with no additions. It's Gypsy and Snowflake who are the troublemakers.
It's a subtle detail, but I believe Hopscotch is the first regular adult earth pony whose symbol is a single image, and not a small collection of the same object.

On the topic of streaks, what do we think of the fact that Magic Star and Truly both had a streak in their manes in their prototypes? Could they have been intended as unicorns at some point? Truly had a prototype baby that was a unicorn, and these ponies' symbols also seem to go along better with the themes unicorns/pegasi usually followed.
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Hmm. I like it on Magic Star. She looks really bold like that. I don't like it on Truly.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Ponyfan on February 21, 2018, 11:43:50 AM
Don’t the Mountain Boys backcards mention them having control over weather? I like the unicorn/magic stripe. I think it adds a nice spot of color in a single color mane.  I didn’t know that Magic Star and Truly were supposed to have stripes in their manes.

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Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 21, 2018, 11:50:13 AM
I still like to think that the stripe indicates some sort of magical significance, and Magic Star does have "magic" right in her name. I do love how she looks with the stripe, too. Unicorn heritage?
What's so strange about Snowflake? Is it that her symbol only has one color?
I think it's that she's a pony but still has a glittery symbol, as glittery symbols were kept for pegasi or unicorns at first.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Khoufu on February 21, 2018, 11:58:08 AM
Huh. Sunlight was also an early Earth pony with a glittery symbol.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Skeen on February 21, 2018, 12:09:02 PM
Huh. Sunlight was also an early Earth pony with a glittery symbol.

But she was also in a set that all had glitter symbols and the same hair.


On the topic of streaks, what do we think of the fact that Magic Star and Truly both had a streak in their manes in their prototypes? Could they have been intended as unicorns at some point? Truly had a prototype baby that was a unicorn, and these ponies' symbols also seem to go along better with the themes unicorns/pegasi usually followed.
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What's weird is that Brazil Truly kept her blue streak even though she's a pegasus!  Though there are no unicorns in the Brazil line, all the unicorns that changed species still have the stripe - Ribbon, Gusty & baby, Milky Way, Twist.  Magic Star appears unchanged (aside from hair color variation of course), so it looks like Estrella got confusing info about what Truly looked like, or that maybe Hasbro didn't approve her final design until the last minute (maybe when they dropped the baby?). 
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Taffeta on February 21, 2018, 03:10:37 PM
Huh. Sunlight was also an early Earth pony with a glittery symbol.

Sunlight is a rainbow pony. Snowflake is a regular pony. She has glittery symbols and she's the only one that does.

She also has freckles, like Gypsy, but then so do AJ and Bow Tie.

I think it may be true that Hopscotch has the first one object symbol for an earth pony...at least, she doesn't, but she does if you are talking about ponies without fur.

My brain is too frazzled to think about striped streaks and would-be unicorns, but Magic Star was Ponyland's most magical pony. Maybe she cast a spell.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: KottonKandy on February 21, 2018, 04:12:38 PM
As PKW would say, It's 1986! A lot of weird happened then. You're right. Hopscotch and Honeycomb are pretty regular to their breeds and Cherries Jubilee and Posey change symbol (CJ hair as well to straight) but are basically themselves with no additions. It's Gypsy and Snowflake who are the troublemakers.
It's a subtle detail, but I believe Hopscotch is the first regular adult earth pony whose symbol is a single image, and not a small collection of the same object.

On the topic of streaks, what do we think of the fact that Magic Star and Truly both had a streak in their manes in their prototypes? Could they have been intended as unicorns at some point? Truly had a prototype baby that was a unicorn, and these ponies' symbols also seem to go along better with the themes unicorns/pegasi usually followed.
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Hmm. I like it on Magic Star. She looks really bold like that. I don't like it on Truly.
I'm the opposite. I think it's too many bright colors on Magic Star, but I like Truly's stripe. Probably because I just love pink and blue together in general.
It's so funny this topic was made. I was just thinking about the extra stripe and what its origins may have been a couple of days ago!
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 21, 2018, 07:07:42 PM
I'll add a G4 bit under a spoiler, as someone pointed it out in a fanfic and it was sort of the driving force behind me making this topic in the first place:
Spoiler
Both Twilight Sparkle and Starlight Glimmer, unicorns with a talent in magic, have a stripe of a color in their hair that isn't their main (purple or purple/pink)
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This would be a nice nod to older gen fans, but there is a chance that because she is meant to be a bit of a foil to Twilight they just threw in the stripe to mirror her.
Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Lilja on February 22, 2018, 12:44:24 AM
I think it may be true that Hopscotch has the first one object symbol for an earth pony...at least, she doesn't, but she does if you are talking about ponies without fur.

Ah yeah, I tend to think of Hopscotch and her set as earlier ponies, but it's true that by the time they were out in the UK, the first set of so softs was out in the US. Maybe you could say her dark hair color sets her apart from other earths at the time, since dark hair colors was used for unicorns (and sea ponies) in the beginning, but it's a bit of a strech.

What's weird is that Brazil Truly kept her blue streak even though she's a pegasus!  Though there are no unicorns in the Brazil line, all the unicorns that changed species still have the stripe - Ribbon, Gusty & baby, Milky Way, Twist.  Magic Star appears unchanged (aside from hair color variation of course), so it looks like Estrella got confusing info about what Truly looked like, or that maybe Hasbro didn't approve her final design until the last minute (maybe when they dropped the baby?). 

Yeah, I wonder what happened there. I often wonder about non-us variations, if they differ the way they do because they were based on an earlier prototype. It seems sometimes that might be the case, but of course there can be other reasons as well. For the record, in the later 1986 toy fair catalog, Truly seems to have lost her streak (or maybe it's just hidden from view), but Magic Star still has hers.
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Title: Re: The Magic Hair Stripe
Post by: Taffeta on February 22, 2018, 07:53:55 AM
On an off topic note, in the corner of that cut image you can see Buttons with the small buttons symbol, but SoSoft. I guess they changed that design too.

Re the Mountain Boys, going back - some of them had weather related abilities. But in the UK it's really common for literally any pony to have magic of some kind, so I'm not sure if that's important or not.

The Brazil Truly thing is a great call. It does suggest earlier images were passed across to other Hasbros. It's sort of a game of fill in the missing prototype, as if the earliest Truly versions were unicorns like the baby prototype, Brazil would have made her into a different style. If she was always an earth pony, would there have been a point in doing this? Shady and Magic Star don't get that treatment. It makes sense that they changed her because she was originally a unicorn.

I think US prototypes are some of the most fun and interesting to look at because generally things came out in the US first, so the weird is mostly with them <3. I wish collectors had so many of them.

Re Hopscotch - I just see her as a regular pony to be honest. Though the symbol makes her more like Magic Star than Posey, as you say, SS Magic Star was out at the same time Hopscotch was, or maybe even before. Snowflake is unusual, but Hopscotch is pretty standard :)

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