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Title: Unproduced play set.
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on March 11, 2018, 08:43:39 AM
Just saw this on ghost of the doll, sadly it never made it.  :cry:


http://www.ghostofthedoll.co.uk/mylittlepony-petiteponies-unproduced.php
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Mlp Sunsparkle on March 11, 2018, 09:18:50 AM
Wow! That’s beautiful! What a shame it wasn’t made! Thank you for sharing the link, I never would’ve found it otherwise lol
Mlp Sunsparkle x
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Taffeta on March 11, 2018, 09:48:32 AM
I can't believe I didn't see this before, ever. Also, what is interesting is that the ponies included with it have brushable tails.

I'm pretty sure that brushable tails were predominately a feature of petites with playsets in Europe? Certainly we only seem to have had the brushable tail versions here. If so, it means that we probably would have had it in the UK had it been released :( I wonder how successful the Petites were...given that there were meant to be more Dream beauties and ultimately weren't (I think that's right?) it may relate to the fact that by 1991 MLP was starting to tail off in the US...or maybe they just didn't make the cut. But that seems pretty close to production, if they're test-printing boxes.

So cute. And pegasus petites too. And pearly. Sigh.

Thank you for sharing it :D We've discovered so many things over the years that Hasbro thought about but didn't produce.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Ponyfan on March 11, 2018, 10:49:00 AM
I would have loved the Wedding Gazebo if it would have made to the stores. 

 :lovey: :lovey: :lovey: :lovey:


I've also wondered how successful Petite Ponies were as they didn't seem to be in production for very long and even now it's hard to find the glowing magic and twinkle petites and the houses and shops don't seem to come up often.

I think in the US petite ponies with playsets usually had molded tails. I know my Flurry did but I have a brushable tail Flitter I bought from a US seller.

I think petite ponies were often lost or thrown away also due to their small size. I know that I lost two of mine at some point but have been able to replace one. 


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 11, 2018, 11:42:07 AM
I think the brushable tail / molded tail was related to timing.  Hasbro started the Petites with all molded tails (including the multi-pony packs) and then I guess decided brushable tails were better. If Europe was getting the Petite playsets a bit later than the US (which seems to have been what usually happened?) then they would get more brushable tails as Hasbro used up the molded tail playset ponies and switched to brushables. Also the brushable playset ponies are rarer in the US, I've heard of them being found here.

The petite castle playset only has brushable versions, no one's found any molded tail ones, which IMO means it entered into production after Hasbro had fully "switched" to brushable tails.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Taffeta on March 11, 2018, 11:53:25 AM
Hrm. I don't know. It's possible. We had all the moulded tails though in other sets, just not in playsets I don't think? The comic advert shows moulded tails and brushable tails only for the ponytail petites...but I think it also shows moulded tails for the castle 2. However the ad says that the petites all have soft brushable tails so that was a sale pitch from the start. That ad is from 1990 and they're also in the trade catalogue for 1990 (hasbro UK) which I think is the same time context as the USA?

 I can only think that European Hasbro branches were more keen on the idea of brushable tails to begin with than the US. Ponytail Petites suggest this was meant to be a gimmick just for their line, but it was used for some of the other later sets that Ponyfan mentioned as being rarer...

I don't know if we had all those later sets in the UK, but we did tend to have both US packaging and European packaging here...yet I don't think we ever had moulded tail ponies. I remember this because I always wanted the rearing up Topper (I think that's her name?) and she ended up a pegasus with brushable tail and I was confused O.o.

I think this was MLP trying to be Polly Pocket :/ I wonder if they just made too many sets at once, and that's why the Gazebo got scrapped. They already had so much to sell that it didn't seem practical to add another. It's a shame though. I would have liked that more than some of the more generic houses. I love the carousel and my childhood castle but the other properties I kind of get mixed up.

I would have liked that pearly petite though. A brushable pearly petite would have been lovely, as the others are all moulded tails.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 11, 2018, 12:00:30 PM
Definitely a Polly Pocket rip off!   Although I always found Polly's fold-up playsets to be half the fun, and unfortunately they didn't really imitate that part with the Petite ponies.

I too like the castle and the carousel best . . . The shops / homes aren't as exciting.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: SaraMari on March 11, 2018, 12:10:28 PM
I hadn't noticed that before either, thanks for sharing it because that playset is just so darn cute! I would've begged my mom for that surely!
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Em_L._Pea_Customs on March 11, 2018, 02:22:57 PM
The prototype of this set sold on ebay recently for $450 on a BIN.  The ended auction isn't visible anymore though.  I would love to have snagged it. :( 
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on March 11, 2018, 02:58:07 PM
Aw, this looks so cute! Shame they never released it!
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Shaiyeh on March 11, 2018, 03:30:48 PM
I've actually never seen this one, but it's TINY, it's SHINY and it's got a little grand piano!! and it's a wedding! I so wish this had been made <3

Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: LNS on March 11, 2018, 05:47:32 PM
Such a cute looking playset! :) What a shame it was never made.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Kikwifluff on March 11, 2018, 06:21:50 PM
It’s lovely! Shame it never got mass produced.  :cry:
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Goanna on March 11, 2018, 07:39:29 PM
Ahh that is precious!
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: tebrighteyes on March 12, 2018, 06:24:34 AM
oh I saw this on Ebay too!   It was after the auction ended though.  I love petite ponies and this is so cute would have loved to see it actually made.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on March 12, 2018, 07:00:22 AM
Very pretty!  I would have lamented its wedding theme as a child though...
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: LadyPinwheel on March 12, 2018, 07:01:58 AM
Just saw this on ghost of the doll, sadly it never made it.  :cry:


http://www.ghostofthedoll.co.uk/mylittlepony-petiteponies-unproduced.php

Wasn't there a wedding prototype, not sure if it's the same one, sold recently on eBay?
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Carrehz on March 12, 2018, 08:26:25 AM
Awww this is so cute! It's a shame it never got produced.

Did anyone save the eBay photos of it? :o
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 12, 2018, 08:51:19 AM
So am I wrong, or would the purple and blue petite have been the one and only official male pegasus in G1?  :P

I wonder who bought it off eBay .  . . $450 seems like a steal considering how well-preserved it is, with the faux box and everything.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Miniature Sheep on March 12, 2018, 08:51:48 AM
Aww, that's a really cute playset! It looks like it would've been a lot of fun to play with - anything architectural always fired up my imagination as a kid. It would've been really nice as a piece in a collection as well.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Ponyfan on March 12, 2018, 09:20:17 AM
I found the ended auction on Ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HASBRO-MY-LITTLE-PONY-PETITE-PONY-VINTAGE-PLAYSET-PROTOTYPE-1991-/152850995434?hash=item2396a118ea%3Ag%3ATgwAAOSwK%7ERaJdFG&nma=true&si=KhFU42t2FjJCD%252Bplj%252BuJ54eCstQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Wardah on March 13, 2018, 01:23:43 AM
Unproduced toys in general just make me sad. There's often great characters or just really neat ideas that unfortunately never make it past a few rare prototypes that are out of most people's budget.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Taffeta on March 13, 2018, 05:52:39 AM
Unproduced toys in general just make me sad. There's often great characters or just really neat ideas that unfortunately never make it past a few rare prototypes that are out of most people's budget.

This is true. Though they're also interesting because they show what could have been.

Mind you, I am still hating Hasbro for not producing Paradise, so I guess I can't really be that objective :/

It's fun to see the thought processes though and the stages in creating the ponies we did get, pose changes, hair changes, etc.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Lilja on March 13, 2018, 06:20:44 AM
Nice find! What a cute little set! Even better that someone has a sample of it in their collection. Hope they can share more photos, I'd like to see what the blue pegasus's symbol is (if they have one).

It's fun to see the thought processes though and the stages in creating the ponies we did get, pose changes, hair changes, etc.
I love when we get to see stuff like this! It adds a human element to it when you see how the designers came up with various ideas, and how they decided which would be best for production. What makes me really sad is that there must be so many scrapped design ideas and prototypes that we'll never get to see at all.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: skyline on March 14, 2018, 01:23:50 PM
Never seen this one! When I was a kid I used to wish and wish for the Petite snow cone/popcorn (I think? Definitely snow cone) set that was shown in all the pamphlets. I think it took me many years to realise it was never made.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: shabbychicdee on March 14, 2018, 03:46:06 PM
that is very cute, love the pearly look.
here is another prototype petite playset........i really want this one
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/File:Sweet-ice-delight-cottage.jpg
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Mermaid on March 14, 2018, 11:31:07 PM
Is sweet delight cottage a petite pony set? The pony that’s with it always looked bigger to me, kind of like the merry go round game ponies.

The wedding set is amazing!
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: reddsetgogirl on March 15, 2018, 12:07:14 AM
It's gorgeous! I'd love to know how the seller got their hands on the prototype.

I know there was a G3 playset that was never released but I can't find anything online about it. I swear I'm not crazy though. It was a magic oven that came with Sweetie Belle. I remember seeing it in a pamphlet and wanting it only for it to never be released.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on March 15, 2018, 02:03:03 AM
Is sweet delight cottage a petite pony set? The pony that’s with it always looked bigger to me, kind of like the merry go round game ponies.

The wedding set is amazing!

The chairs out front look like the same model as the Paradise Estate ones, so it'd be a regular pony playset based on that scale.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Taffeta on March 15, 2018, 10:26:08 AM
I always felt like the sweet ice delight cottage didn't look very pony somehow. I remember it was still strongly believed to be a thing back in the nineties when I came online, because it's on one of the inserts.

That along with the Flutter Pony house seem to have fallen by the wayside. I wonder if there's a committee who reviews all these prototypes and gauges the interest from distributors and then goes, nup. Not worth it.

Still convinced poor PE sales in the US are the main reason UK Hasbro didn't push ahead with Paradise. Seems to me like the PE we got here were all in US boxes and so basically were leftover US ones that didn't sell. Which meant no point manufacturing Paradise. US didn't need her, they had a SS one. So we missed out.

Ultimately it's all about what will sell, the production cost, price point and whether there's a market.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: starstrider on March 16, 2018, 05:55:13 AM
Oh, WOW!  I've never seen pics of this set before!  The bride pony's symbol is wedding bells, but the groom pony's symbols aren't clearly photographed.  Any ideas what his symbols might have been? 

It's so pretty, what a terrible shame it never made it into public.  One of probably many such planned/partially produced/completed but not released products.  Wouldn't you just love to get your hands on the development team's concept artwork sketchbooks!  There would be some gorgeous ideas in there, I've no doubt. 

Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Wardah on March 16, 2018, 09:07:44 AM
I always felt like the sweet ice delight cottage didn't look very pony somehow. I remember it was still strongly believed to be a thing back in the nineties when I came online, because it's on one of the inserts.

That along with the Flutter Pony house seem to have fallen by the wayside. I wonder if there's a committee who reviews all these prototypes and gauges the interest from distributors and then goes, nup. Not worth it.

Still convinced poor PE sales in the US are the main reason UK Hasbro didn't push ahead with Paradise. Seems to me like the PE we got here were all in US boxes and so basically were leftover US ones that didn't sell. Which meant no point manufacturing Paradise. US didn't need her, they had a SS one. So we missed out.

Ultimately it's all about what will sell, the production cost, price point and whether there's a market.

If it's anything like now they bring the prototypes to Toy Fair and if there aren't enough orders the whole thing gets cancelled. That's why usually prototypes exist for things that never made it to market.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Galactica on March 16, 2018, 02:53:03 PM
I always felt like the sweet ice delight cottage didn't look very pony somehow. I remember it was still strongly believed to be a thing back in the nineties when I came online, because it's on one of the inserts.

That along with the Flutter Pony house seem to have fallen by the wayside. I wonder if there's a committee who reviews all these prototypes and gauges the interest from distributors and then goes, nup. Not worth it.

Still convinced poor PE sales in the US are the main reason UK Hasbro didn't push ahead with Paradise. Seems to me like the PE we got here were all in US boxes and so basically were leftover US ones that didn't sell. Which meant no point manufacturing Paradise. US didn't need her, they had a SS one. So we missed out.

Ultimately it's all about what will sell, the production cost, price point and whether there's a market.

If it's anything like now they bring the prototypes to Toy Fair and if there aren't enough orders the whole thing gets cancelled. That's why usually prototypes exist for things that never made it to market.

Or sometimes the prototypes are made just as an entire line gets cancelled- I think that happens a lot.

I actually like prototypes quite a lot-
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Taffeta on March 16, 2018, 02:55:05 PM
I always felt like the sweet ice delight cottage didn't look very pony somehow. I remember it was still strongly believed to be a thing back in the nineties when I came online, because it's on one of the inserts.

That along with the Flutter Pony house seem to have fallen by the wayside. I wonder if there's a committee who reviews all these prototypes and gauges the interest from distributors and then goes, nup. Not worth it.

Still convinced poor PE sales in the US are the main reason UK Hasbro didn't push ahead with Paradise. Seems to me like the PE we got here were all in US boxes and so basically were leftover US ones that didn't sell. Which meant no point manufacturing Paradise. US didn't need her, they had a SS one. So we missed out.

Ultimately it's all about what will sell, the production cost, price point and whether there's a market.

If it's anything like now they bring the prototypes to Toy Fair and if there aren't enough orders the whole thing gets cancelled. That's why usually prototypes exist for things that never made it to market.

Or sometimes the prototypes are made just as an entire line gets cancelled- I think that happens a lot.

I actually like prototypes quite a lot-

That certainly happened for Jem. The Stingers, Astral, Regine...and then bam, line gone. Stinger doll prototypes sold for $10,000 on ebay, years later...
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Galactica on March 16, 2018, 04:19:49 PM
I always felt like the sweet ice delight cottage didn't look very pony somehow. I remember it was still strongly believed to be a thing back in the nineties when I came online, because it's on one of the inserts.

That along with the Flutter Pony house seem to have fallen by the wayside. I wonder if there's a committee who reviews all these prototypes and gauges the interest from distributors and then goes, nup. Not worth it.

Still convinced poor PE sales in the US are the main reason UK Hasbro didn't push ahead with Paradise. Seems to me like the PE we got here were all in US boxes and so basically were leftover US ones that didn't sell. Which meant no point manufacturing Paradise. US didn't need her, they had a SS one. So we missed out.

Ultimately it's all about what will sell, the production cost, price point and whether there's a market.

If it's anything like now they bring the prototypes to Toy Fair and if there aren't enough orders the whole thing gets cancelled. That's why usually prototypes exist for things that never made it to market.

Or sometimes the prototypes are made just as an entire line gets cancelled- I think that happens a lot.

I actually like prototypes quite a lot-

That certainly happened for Jem. The Stingers, Astral, Regine...and then bam, line gone. Stinger doll prototypes sold for $10,000 on ebay, years later...

And Rainbow Brite, Shimmers, Moondreamers and Rose Petal Place (although the Kenner stuff really ended because the factory closed)

So many beautiful things were planned...  fortunately for collectors, the Kenner prototypes are a little easier to find (marginally) since all of the prototypes were tossed into the garbage bins (lore has it) and people waited until after hours and dug them back out (mostly they were after star wars stuff but other things got saved as well)

I would love a complete set of the Rose Petal 1988 unproduced dolls...
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: BethyVic on March 16, 2018, 04:46:44 PM
Ponies with pearlization are some of my favorites. A pearly play set would be awesome. If I was a millionaire I would want to track down all of those prototypes.
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: shabbychicdee on March 22, 2018, 04:01:46 PM
Is sweet delight cottage a petite pony set? The pony that’s with it always looked bigger to me, kind of like the merry go round game ponies.

The wedding set is amazing!

The chairs out front look like the same model as the Paradise Estate ones, so it'd be a regular pony playset based on that scale.

OMG i think you are right, throws fakie at self :P why i never notice that. i just thought it was tiny. man i so really want it more now :( that and the flutter tree house thing............so so badly, im throwing money at the screen for something that doesn't exist :sad:

Post Merge: March 22, 2018, 04:13:19 PM

sorry just saw writing on it i think its a "Easy Bake" kind of thing or slushy machine    :shocked:
Title: Re: Unproduced play set.
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on March 22, 2018, 05:00:15 PM
It was intended to be a snow-cone maker - see the sidebar in the Wiki image (http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/File:Sweet-ice-delight-cottage.jpg), it says "Comes with 2 Kool-Aid Soft Drink Mix Packets, Pony Shaped Syrup Bottle, Shovel (really? looks like a spoon to me!) and Cup to Make Delicious Sno-Cone Treats."

Maybe the licensing fell through?  It seems weird to me that you'd pair a real food-making item with a toy play-set, especially one that could result in the kinds of sticky messes ice, syrup and drink mixes imply.
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