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Title: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: cloud_weaver on July 18, 2012, 11:14:10 PM
Just curious if anyone has heard whether or not she will be an exclusive there as well.  I really hope so for the sake of the international collectors.   :(
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: tinrobo on July 19, 2012, 01:01:08 AM
Reaperfox posted about it on another forum:

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Man, it's been the HUGEST headache, so no it's not confirmed that she's our "exclusive". We probably won't actually have an exclusive this year. That's why we haven't made any big annoucements yet - we're gutted about it. Hasbro are being such a huge pain in the butt about it, given the MLPFair/SDCC drama (basically the fair wasn't given enough and they gave them all to SDCC instead.) We've been told we can't get her as our exclusive, despite ALWAYS having the Fair pony or our OWN exclusive, if we don't order *10k*. Seriously.

So, we're working on other things. At the moment the con has a limited number of Ditzy Doo ponies that will be available. We normally sell about 70 exclusives at the convention. We have significantly fewer as it stands - as it stands we have no official exclusive as supplied by Hasbro. We are working on it! No promises or guarentees, but we're trying our very best to make the most of a very very unfair/unfortunate situation.

link: http://ukofequestria.co.uk/threads/uk-ponycon-2012-discussion.2299/page-5#post-127525

It's really a shame, I'm so angry with hasbro for screwing over these conventions that have supported them for years. :mad:
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: hathorcat on July 19, 2012, 01:16:02 AM
Thats the same post I read elsewhere...I dont understand the 10,000  figure they gave the committee...there is absolutely no way that they produced that volume to sell between the Fair, Comic Con and HTS! There wouldnt have been as much disappointment if they had that kind of tally available. So why would one little UK Con have to buy 40 times the amount the US Fair were allocated - HB are weird!

Personally I think it sounds like they wanted to go big at Comic Con and are not quite as invested in the Fairs as they used to be and which have been involved with them for the last decade or so :(

Its such a shame for the Con, the committee who have had to deal with this and the Con goers who are not going to be able to get her this year.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Taxel on July 19, 2012, 01:24:00 AM
Personally I think it sounds like they wanted to go big at Comic Con and are not quite as invested in the Fairs as they used to be and which have been involved with them for the last decade or so :(

This. And they couldn't even make Comic Con go close to right. :/

I don't know what's wrong with Hasbro and why they're screwing over everyone, especially longtime fans and Fairs. They're even screwing themselves over by not making a halfway reasonable number! I have no idea how they could have found out about Bubblecup's popularity and decided to make her the one and only exclusive without seeing how popular she is. It doesn't make any sense at all.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Gingerbread on July 19, 2012, 01:35:55 AM
10k ponies? Are Hasbro absolutely bloody mad? They haven't made probably half that total for the US market! Ugh that is frickin' ridiculous :mad:

But I tell you what, if Ponycon could raise the funds to purchase 10k ponies they would be laughing, say you purchased them at $2 per unit (rough guestimate) and sold them even at $15 per unit, that's a profit! They would definitely all sell too, with the mess Hasbroken  sounds like they made at the fair.

[edit for language ~ many thanks ~ hathorcat]
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Enolaalone on July 19, 2012, 02:34:08 AM
Gah, that is really unfair of Hasbro. Hopefully the UK Con can come up with something.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: nearlyheadlessnayy on July 19, 2012, 02:38:30 AM
I didn't even know about this post Tinrobo! :o
*goes to go read whole discussion*
I musta not read through the old posts,
I don't have the exclusives but I know alot of people who pride them and love the excitement to collect them, my friend was so proud of her Egyptian one last yeah..
Hasbro just what in the world are you doing?
You're just disappointing everyone :(
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: StarlightGaze on July 19, 2012, 02:46:32 AM
Geez... Is there some way we can talk to some representatives of Hasbro or something? They are really screwing over their entire MLP fanbase recently.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: tinrobo on July 19, 2012, 02:57:18 AM
Thats the same post I read elsewhere...I dont understand the 10,000  figure they gave the committee...there is absolutely no way that they produced that volume to sell between the Fair, Comic Con and HTS! There wouldnt have been as much disappointment if they had that kind of tally available. So why would one little UK Con have to buy 40 times the amount the US Fair were allocated - HB are weird!

That's what I thought! It makes no sense!

But I tell you what, if Ponycon could raise the funds to purchase 10k ponies they would be laughing, say you purchased them at $2 per unit (rough guestimate) and sold them even at $15 per unit, that's a profit! They would definitely all sell too, with the mess Hasbroken  sounds like they made at the fair.

Hahahaha, that would be amazing! :p
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: xeevee on July 19, 2012, 04:03:20 AM
But I tell you what, if Ponycon could raise the funds to purchase 10k ponies they would be laughing, say you purchased them at $2 per unit (rough guestimate) and sold them even at $15 per unit, that's a profit! They would definitely all sell too, with the mess Hasbroken  sounds like they made at the fair.

Hahahaha, that would be amazing! :p

Quick, ponycon staff, make a kickstarter! Everyone who missed out on :muffin: Pony will donate!
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: StarlightGaze on July 19, 2012, 04:16:09 AM
I'm in the States and I got a Ditzy Doo, but I would still donate a few bucks!
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Heliodor on July 19, 2012, 04:16:52 AM
It's really a shame, I'm so angry with hasbro for screwing over these conventions that have supported them for years. :mad:

Yeah, what the hell?!
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Dragonflitter on July 19, 2012, 06:09:38 AM
>.< This makes me so sad....
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: nearlyheadlessnayy on July 19, 2012, 06:37:00 AM
I was more unimpressed with the reactions the bronies had to there being g1's at the fair *puffs up like an angry cat*

But Hasbro sort it out! Everyone want's :muffin: Pony normally and an exsclusive.
It's not rocket science, or expensive with your quality control..
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 19, 2012, 06:56:14 AM
It's just so disrespectful of Hasbro . . . Really, would it have been that hard to make 70 more Ditzy Doos to begin with for the UK fair?   We have supported them over the years, not just monetarily but also in celebrating their brand with them.  Saying, "Heck yeah, ponies are awesome!"

I am really upset about their recent treatment of the US MLP Fair and now the UK convention, not just because of getting or not getting grey pegasus exclusives, but because Hasbro suddenly does not seem to give a crap about us, even though we had (or so I thought) built a relationship up with them over the years.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Flutterblossom on July 19, 2012, 07:09:28 AM
It's just so disrespectful of Hasbro . . . Really, would it have been that hard to make 70 more Ditzy Doos to begin with for the UK fair?   We have supported them over the years, not just monetarily but also in celebrating their brand with them.  Saying, "Heck yeah, ponies are awesome!"

I am really upset about their recent treatment of the US MLP Fair and now the UK convention, not just because of getting or not getting grey pegasus exclusives, but because Hasbro suddenly does not seem to give a crap about us, even though we had (or so I thought) built a relationship up with them over the years.

Yes, they were WAY under stocked at MLP Fair. 105 :muffin: Ponies were "pre-ordered" through the ticketing system, and the remainder were sold at the Fair Booth. After all of the ticket packages were distributed, it seems like they sold out at the fair booth in about 10 minutes. I don't know how many :muffin: Ponies Hasbro brought to the fair to begin with,  but it must've been around 120-200 to have sold out that quickly. The large majority of fair-goers that did not have a ticket package did not get one.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Sebby6 on July 19, 2012, 07:18:24 AM
The thing is... it wasn't more expensive to pre-order the pony. You don't fly across the country to attend an event without having a ticket. That means they must have been on the website and chosen not order one.

Yes. Hasbro did send less exclusives than they usually do, but it is also my belief that everyone who attended could have had one, had they pre-ordered.

As for Hasbro not giving any to the UK Con, it's very disappointing but not entirely unexpected.
Hasbro UK does not care for the Con at all.
I really hope the staff comes up with a cool alternative. It's cool that they've already gotten some pegasi, and since I already have mine, I guess they only need 69 this year :D
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: PhyllieBean on July 19, 2012, 07:21:15 AM
I believe the 10,000 they're referring to is dollars, not ponies.  Now, it's been a couple years since I placed an order with Hasbro, so this may have changed a little, but I doubt much.  So....Their minimum amount of ponies in order to do a run is 1,000.  Generally, most ponies cost at least $7.  I would imagine that by now they cost more, especially since just ponies in general are more expensive than they were a few years ago.  So my guess is that new design/new mold/large display box = about $10 per piece, which would add up to $10,000.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Flutterblossom on July 19, 2012, 07:37:49 AM
The thing is... it wasn't more expensive to pre-order the pony. You don't fly across the country to attend an event without having a ticket. That means they must have been on the website and chosen not order one.

Yes. Hasbro did send less exclusives than they usually do, but it is also my belief that everyone who attended could have had one, had they pre-ordered.

As for Hasbro not giving any to the UK Con, it's very disappointing but not entirely unexpected.
Hasbro UK does not care for the Con at all.
I really hope the staff comes up with a cool alternative. It's cool that they've already gotten some pegasi, and since I already have mine, I guess they only need 69 this year :D

Yes, but when I ordered my fair ticket (about 2 months before the fair) they were sold out of all the ticket package options except for the most expensive, the Equestria Ticket. My mom ordered me the Equestria ticket, but we could not all afford to get one for each of us (my mom, my two sisters, and I), so only I got one. My sisters and my mom all pre-ordered general admission and were planning to stand in line to buy their own :muffin: Ponies. But at the fair a HUGE group of Florida bronies/pegasisters showed up without warning JUST to buy the :muffin: Pony. I know because one came up to me and told me that when I was holding my :muffin: Pony. I also know because the majority of them all left shortly after the :muffin: Pony sold out.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: cloud_weaver on July 19, 2012, 08:25:37 AM
. But at the fair a HUGE group of Florida bronies/pegasisters showed up without warning JUST to buy the Ditzy Doo. I know because one came up to me and told me that when I was holding my Ditzy Doo. I also know because the majority of them all left shortly after the Ditzy Doo sold out.

Ugh!  :drunk:
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: MsTwilight on July 19, 2012, 08:48:17 AM
It's just so disrespectful of Hasbro . . . Really, would it have been that hard to make 70 more Ditzy Doos to begin with for the UK fair?   We have supported them over the years, not just monetarily but also in celebrating their brand with them.  Saying, "Heck yeah, ponies are awesome!"

I am really upset about their recent treatment of the US MLP Fair and now the UK convention, not just because of getting or not getting grey pegasus exclusives, but because Hasbro suddenly does not seem to give a crap about us, even though we had (or so I thought) built a relationship up with them over the years.

Here here!!! I'm pretty disgusted! I'm not a fan of the new show or grey peg but Hasbro should come through with an exclusive for the UK Con. They have for awhile now, so what gives?!??!
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: NoDivision on July 19, 2012, 09:02:47 AM
I'm not one to think that Hasbro should have made a TON more ponies - I understand that exclusice items are meant to be limited, that is what makes them special. But I am extremely disappointed by them not sending ANYTHING to the UK con. That's a huge bummer.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: PhyllieBean on July 19, 2012, 09:34:55 AM
It's just so disrespectful of Hasbro . . . Really, would it have been that hard to make 70 more Ditzy Doos to begin with for the UK fair?   We have supported them over the years, not just monetarily but also in celebrating their brand with them.  Saying, "Heck yeah, ponies are awesome!"

I am really upset about their recent treatment of the US MLP Fair and now the UK convention, not just because of getting or not getting grey pegasus exclusives, but because Hasbro suddenly does not seem to give a crap about us, even though we had (or so I thought) built a relationship up with them over the years.

Here here!!! I'm pretty disgusted! I'm not a fan of the new show or grey peg but Hasbro should come through with an exclusive for the UK Con. They have for awhile now, so what gives?!??!

I think this has to do with the fact that it's mainly a SDCC exclusive.  In past years the US Fair paid for an exclusive design and an exclusive run of the product.  Then Hasbro would over run what we ordered and donate the extra to the UK Con.  This year they basically did the same thing, but it was SDCC who got the majority of the run, then the Fair purchased additional pieces.  There wasn't an over run for Hasbro to donate to the UK Con. 
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: willa on July 19, 2012, 10:41:02 AM
I am really disgusted that Hasbro do not support UK Ponycon.  After all it is a celebration of their brand and the loyalty of its fans is apparently not being acknowledged or returned by Hasbro.  Definitely a kick in the teeth to every collector who has regularly put money into Hasbro's pocket over the years.  They should have at least offered something to UK Ponycon.   
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on July 19, 2012, 11:26:12 AM
It's just so disrespectful of Hasbro . . . Really, would it have been that hard to make 70 more Ditzy Doos to begin with for the UK fair?   We have supported them over the years, not just monetarily but also in celebrating their brand with them.  Saying, "Heck yeah, ponies are awesome!"

I am really upset about their recent treatment of the US MLP Fair and now the UK convention, not just because of getting or not getting grey pegasus exclusives, but because Hasbro suddenly does not seem to give a crap about us, even though we had (or so I thought) built a relationship up with them over the years.

Here here!!! I'm pretty disgusted! I'm not a fan of the new show or grey peg but Hasbro should come through with an exclusive for the UK Con. They have for awhile now, so what gives?!??!

I think this has to do with the fact that it's mainly a SDCC exclusive.  In past years the US Fair paid for an exclusive design and an exclusive run of the product.  Then Hasbro would over run what we ordered and donate the extra to the UK Con.  This year they basically did the same thing, but it was SDCC who got the majority of the run, then the Fair purchased additional pieces.  There wasn't an over run for Hasbro to donate to the UK Con. 

only once did hasbro donate the ponies to UK ponycon :) UK ponycon has paid hasbro for the rest exclusive ponies in the past :) in the past the fair have generously donated a few bay breeze's and a trolly and frisco to us :D

UK ponycon has always loved being able to bring an exclusive to the UK for the collectors, plus it helps raise funds for our chosen charities too :cheer:

love pkw xxx
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: PhyllieBean on July 19, 2012, 11:54:57 AM
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only once did hasbro donate the ponies to UK ponycon UK ponycon has paid hasbro for the rest exclusive ponies in the past in the past the fair have generously donated a few bay breeze's and a trolly and frisco to us

UK ponycon has always loved being able to bring an exclusive to the UK for the collectors, plus it helps raise funds for our chosen charities too

love pkw xxx

Sorry, I guess I worded that a little wrong, or rather should have put some info from my post before into that last one.  I just wanted to give some insight since I have past experience with buying a design/production run. 

It's really more about the run than the cost.  I think the UK Con usually does about 300 exclusives each year, right?  300 is not enough for Hasbro to do an individual run, whether paid for or donated.  Because the Fair and SDCC order at least 1,000 pieces (the minimum amount to put a pony into a production run) then they can run an extra 300 or whatever that UK ordered.  That's how it was explained to me by Hasbro in years past.  I'm thinking this year, since the SDCC sales are basically all thier own, they decided to keep the majority of pieces made for themselves, and set a small amount aside for the Fair.  I'm assuming since an exclusive design has been purchased and produced by the Fair for several years now, they were willing to do at least that. 

It would have been nice if they set an amount aside for UK to purchase as well, but I think they're focusing on holding all the profit themselves with this one.  Sucks. 
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: UKPonyCon on July 19, 2012, 12:20:55 PM
Hello all! Mlplaura here posting form the PonyCon account. (Oooh, naughty :P )

Sadly, the number we have been quoted is indeed 10,000 PIECES to make it possible to ship them to the UK, not dollars :( We are currently trying to work our way around this but I'll be honest, it's not looking too good. We completely understand what a pain this must be for all collectors, both in the UK and in other countries who were hoping to purchase her from us but we're just having a bit of a hard time about this ATM.

I just want to say a MASSIVE thank you for all of your support for UK PonyCon though! Just reading all of your comments of support not just for us but for the US fair in this situation is just so lovely :D We really wouldn't be able to do anything like this if it wasn't for fantastic people like you! :hug: If I could give you all a cookie, I totally would!

P.S We are still going to be busting a gut to get around this, don't you worry! We shall deffo keep you up to date with the latest goings on and IF we actually get her .... I think a weekend of arena celebrations is in order :P

x
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Heliodor on July 19, 2012, 12:58:14 PM
I was more unimpressed with the reactions the bronies had to there being g1's at the fair *puffs up like an angry cat*

What?? It's the MLP fair of course there are going to be G1s...the FIRST ponies? Was there some kind of drama? :huh:


But at the fair a HUGE group of Florida bronies/pegasisters showed up without warning JUST to buy the Ditzy Doo. I know because one came up to me and told me that when I was holding my Ditzy Doo. I also know because the majority of them all left shortly after the Ditzy Doo sold out.

...Wow...wow.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Gingerbread on July 19, 2012, 01:23:52 PM
So Hasbro want UKPonycon to order 10,000 units.

Just out of interest, does anybody know how many units SDCC had?
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: PhyllieBean on July 19, 2012, 01:33:15 PM
10,000 pieces?!  That's insane!  How the heck would they expect you guys to offload 10,000 pieces?!  That's probably more than some of these ponies are getting in regular distribution!  That is most dumb-tastic thing I have heard in a while.  I can't imagine SDCC would have even had half of that.  What would be so exclusive about an exclusive if there's 10,000 of it?!  Wow.  I'm seriously offended on your guys' behalf! 
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: nearlyheadlessnayy on July 19, 2012, 02:02:39 PM
I was more unimpressed with the reactions the bronies had to there being g1's at the fair *puffs up like an angry cat*

What?? It's the MLP fair of course there are going to be G1s...the FIRST ponies? Was there some kind of drama? :huh:

I read the whole thread and just got annoyed with bronies being mean about the other generations being at the convention, one said they couldn't stomach them and one compared them to world war 2..
I mean they're just so childishly infuriating after everything the convention does everything to surrport the new community to join in. I mean Friendship is magic is the key here. *shrugs*

I don't want to go off topic or ranting about people, this is about the ponycon exclusive after all.
and I'm too upset that hasbro does not want to help/give something back after the years we have all spent paying them for other ponies.
I wonder if it's come under new management or something and someone else less.. thoughtful is in charge?
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Tulips on July 19, 2012, 02:11:54 PM
But I tell you what, if Ponycon could raise the funds to purchase 10k ponies they would be laughing, say you purchased them at $2 per unit (rough guestimate) and sold them even at $15 per unit, that's a profit! They would definitely all sell too, with the mess Hasbroken  sounds like they made at the fair.

Hahahaha, that would be amazing! :p

Quick, ponycon staff, make a kickstarter! Everyone who missed out on Ditzy Doo will donate!

Lol that's a pretty good idea, it'd basically be like a pre-order :)
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Desert Rose on July 19, 2012, 02:32:22 PM
Well.... on the bright side... if you guys do order 10,000 Bubblebutts or Grey Pegasus Ponies or whatever we call her :P, there will be enough to go around for all of us :P If you choose to sell her through the site afterwards.

Allthough I know this would mean she's not really all that exclusive anymore, but everyone does want her. But it is hard for everyone to get her when there's not enough out there to go around >.<

And even though I haven't made it to a fair yet and probably wont for a while yet I'm seriously disapointed on behalf of the UK Fairgoers :( I think you guys who host the fairs are doing an amazing job and it's so heartwarming to see how hard you work to make sure your fairgoers get fair treatment by Hasbro :)
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Gaspode on July 19, 2012, 02:49:58 PM
Wow I hadn't realised this was all going on.

Tinrobo thanks for the link but I wish I hadn't read the rest of that thread *shakes head at some of the posters on there* Geesh, learning much from 'Friendship is Magic' are we?!

Anyway, to get back on topic, this is craziness and I'm so disappointed to hear Hasbro's attitude this year.  My main upset is that I know the exclusive was always one of the things that raised a big big amount for the charity of the year and it makes me sad to think they won't get that money this year because of Hasbro.

Sad times.
Gaspode
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Lyra on July 19, 2012, 02:55:00 PM
Reaperfox posted about it on another forum:

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Man, it's been the HUGEST headache, so no it's not confirmed that she's our "exclusive". We probably won't actually have an exclusive this year. That's why we haven't made any big annoucements yet - we're gutted about it. Hasbro are being such a huge pain in the butt about it, given the MLPFair/SDCC drama (basically the fair wasn't given enough and they gave them all to SDCC instead.) We've been told we can't get her as our exclusive, despite ALWAYS having the Fair pony or our OWN exclusive, if we don't order *10k*. Seriously.

So, we're working on other things. At the moment the con has a limited number of Ditzy Doo ponies that will be available. We normally sell about 70 exclusives at the convention. We have significantly fewer as it stands - as it stands we have no official exclusive as supplied by Hasbro. We are working on it! No promises or guarentees, but we're trying our very best to make the most of a very very unfair/unfortunate situation.

link: http://ukofequestria.co.uk/threads/uk-ponycon-2012-discussion.2299/page-5#post-127525

It's really a shame, I'm so angry with hasbro for screwing over these conventions that have supported them for years. :mad:

I didn't know that was why :( Hasbro making it very clear that they dont care about the international fans, just 'their own'

o_o
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: DaffyDilly on July 19, 2012, 02:59:46 PM
I have a genius idea!

Lets start a syndicate, win the lottery, buy all the bubblebutts (love that name!) and have one each.

Then we'll flog the rest to Toys R Us (cos they are more world wide than Target who always seem to get exclusives!) to get our money back.  :biggrin:

On a more serious note, I can't help but feel like Europe is being treated as the little sister by Hasbro. It might genuinely by that it's Hasbro Europe's "patch" and they don't like to tread on toes but they could sound sorry at least!

And honestly, I could've done us a shipment from the US to the UK for a few hundred £. I am guessing that 10,000 units is close to a 20ft (or 40ft) container. Why are they being so grumpy about it?!
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: DancingPhoenix on July 19, 2012, 03:03:23 PM
Most of the b-words that stuck around at the fair were pretty open to other gens actually, I was impressed. But yeah there were those who instantly left after. I saw them sitting outside the fair before they left with their "grey pegasus" ponies already de-boxed and they were playing with them. Then there was the guy who sat next to us at pony bingo and was saying how it wasn't fair that they were all G1 ponies because he didn't know them. Then he went on to say how the ponies in the bingo game should all be FiM ponies because then everyone would know them. It took all of my power not to punch this kid in the face.

Honestly if this pony was a more interesting exclusive like in years past I'd be MORE upset. I'm just mad because I was so close to getting one and then they sold out and I don't think I can wait around on the toy shop website for the next release of canceled orders. And yes, the ticket package that included the exclusive was sold out as well. The only thing left when I got to buy my ticket was the weekend pass that just paid for both days in advance.

And yes, I would totally donate money to the UK Fair to get ponies over to you guys... despite if I was able to get one myself or not! You deserve the chance too.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Sebby6 on July 19, 2012, 03:12:27 PM
The 10.000 units make absolutely no sense.
Obviously there needs to be a minimum amount to make it worth it, but in this case the mould and design already exists and that is where the cost is.

Boo Hasbro
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: nearlyheadlessnayy on July 19, 2012, 03:36:59 PM
My main upset is that I know the exclusive was always one of the things that raised a big big amount for the charity of the year and it makes me sad to think they won't get that money this year because of Hasbro.


I never thought about that bit..
Now I feel worse! I don't want to feel like we let the charity down this year. :(
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Chrissytree on July 19, 2012, 03:40:15 PM
I wonder how many non-US pony people we could get together to sign a petition to show Hasbro US that the world doesn't stop at the oceans!

I'm angry about this.  Enough said, although I wonder how they're finances are, this seems a bit money grabbing to me.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on July 19, 2012, 04:10:11 PM
10,000 is a crazy number to have to order if in previous years it was a smaller number like a 1,000. That's a huge increase for the minimum order.

Considering the Fair technically didn't have it's own exclusive, it just seems logical to assume hasbro increased the minimum to a crazy figure like 10,000. Even if it was still $7 a pony what fan run convention wants to dish out that much money at one time?

I mean it would be great if we could all ban together to get an exclusive but the $$$ amount is kind of scary.

Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: hathorcat on July 19, 2012, 04:14:52 PM
I believe the 10,000 they're referring to is dollars, not ponies.  Now, it's been a couple years since I placed an order with Hasbro, so this may have changed a little, but I doubt much.  So....Their minimum amount of ponies in order to do a run is 1,000.  Generally, most ponies cost at least $7.  I would imagine that by now they cost more, especially since just ponies in general are more expensive than they were a few years ago.  So my guess is that new design/new mold/large display box = about $10 per piece, which would add up to $10,000.

That would make more sense as a total - hiking an order minimum of 1000 [for a worldwide run] up to 10 000 [for just the UK] is crazy! I dont understand why they have told the Committee 10,000 - that seems a higher run than they even did for all the US events and sales!

Edit: I assume they did have a limited amount dedicated to the US Fair rather than being willing to meet demand - that would probably be why the packages which contained the pony were limited in number - therefore even if you paid for your ticket for the event if the "with pony" tickets were sold you would not be guaranteed a pony.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Saiko on July 19, 2012, 05:25:38 PM
I do like the idea of making a Kickstarter page - although it might have the side effect of swamping PonyCon with European collectors and bronies in need of Miss Hooves!
I am more than willing to donate towards getting this pony to the UK. I need her so badly! I don't think you'd have much trouble shifting any excess stock after the fair either.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: mercynova on July 20, 2012, 05:29:09 AM
If she did end up at the UK con, there would just be an invasion of bronies once again who would only be attending for one thing and being rude about older generations (I did see this happening at the US fair). But it's easy for me to say that I'm not keen on having her there since I already have two of the pony in question.... and I agree it's very sad what they have done to loyal fans, especially international ones.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Einhornbaby on July 20, 2012, 05:45:48 AM
Reaperfox posted about it on another forum:

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Man, it's been the HUGEST headache, so no it's not confirmed that she's our "exclusive". We probably won't actually have an exclusive this year. That's why we haven't made any big annoucements yet - we're gutted about it. Hasbro are being such a huge pain in the butt about it, given the MLPFair/SDCC drama (basically the fair wasn't given enough and they gave them all to SDCC instead.) We've been told we can't get her as our exclusive, despite ALWAYS having the Fair pony or our OWN exclusive, if we don't order *10k*. Seriously.

So, we're working on other things. At the moment the con has a limited number of Ditzy Doo ponies that will be available. We normally sell about 70 exclusives at the convention. We have significantly fewer as it stands - as it stands we have no official exclusive as supplied by Hasbro. We are working on it! No promises or guarentees, but we're trying our very best to make the most of a very very unfair/unfortunate situation.

link: http://ukofequestria.co.uk/threads/uk-ponycon-2012-discussion.2299/page-5#post-127525

It's really a shame, I'm so angry with hasbro for screwing over these conventions that have supported them for years. :mad:

I didn't know that was why :( Hasbro making it very clear that they dont care about the international fans, just 'their own'

o_o


The german fair also does not get a convention exclusive. We were told to order a minimum of 1000 ponies, but since we are kinda few people compared to the US fans, nobody can do that :/ They also dont even give us a hand on the decoration as promised and telling the con-organisators that "they are not allowed to sponsor anything like that, because of the marketing" -_- ... I feel they totally dont care about us.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Sebby6 on July 20, 2012, 06:44:14 AM
That's weird because they have sponsored the German Fair in the past
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: PhyllieBean on July 20, 2012, 09:13:15 AM
If they told the German Con that it was a 1,000 minimum (which is usually the standard) I'm wondering if it was simply a typo in the email going to the UK?  However, fifty bucks says whoever spoke to Germany is not the same person who talked to the UK.  In my experience, the different departments you have deal with at Hasbro when setting up a custom order have a habit of not communicating well.  I think whoever the UK folks talked to is just pulling some random information out of her patooty!  Probably someone who can't be bothered to actually do the work involved to help them out, so she'd rather just come up with an impossible requirment and then hope she doesn't have to worry about it again.  (Or he, whatevs.)  Even if they did agree to buy 10,000 ridiculous pieces, Hasbro really wouldn't be able to claim that this pony is much of an exclusive would they?
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on July 20, 2012, 11:27:38 AM
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only once did hasbro donate the ponies to UK ponycon UK ponycon has paid hasbro for the rest exclusive ponies in the past in the past the fair have generously donated a few bay breeze's and a trolly and frisco to us

UK ponycon has always loved being able to bring an exclusive to the UK for the collectors, plus it helps raise funds for our chosen charities too

love pkw xxx

Sorry, I guess I worded that a little wrong, or rather should have put some info from my post before into that last one.  I just wanted to give some insight since I have past experience with buying a design/production run. 

It's really more about the run than the cost.  I think the UK Con usually does about 300 exclusives each year, right?  300 is not enough for Hasbro to do an individual run, whether paid for or donated.  Because the Fair and SDCC order at least 1,000 pieces (the minimum amount to put a pony into a production run) then they can run an extra 300 or whatever that UK ordered.  That's how it was explained to me by Hasbro in years past.  I'm thinking this year, since the SDCC sales are basically all thier own, they decided to keep the majority of pieces made for themselves, and set a small amount aside for the Fair.  I'm assuming since an exclusive design has been purchased and produced by the Fair for several years now, they were willing to do at least that. 

It would have been nice if they set an amount aside for UK to purchase as well, but I think they're focusing on holding all the profit themselves with this one.  Sucks. 

no need to be sorry :hug: :)

i appreciate your post :) how you have worked with hasbro is very different to ponycon's experience.

the ponycon has had between 60-250 (max) ponies per year, but it has always been upto hasbro how many ponies ponycon gets. ponycon is simply told how many hasbro uk can get hold of. in its simplest form: ponycon ask hasbro uk if there is the chance of a pony, then hasbro uk then ask hasbro us if there are ponies, who then report back to hasbro uk, who get back to ponycon. there is no short cut though, believe me ponycon has tried every which way :(

love pkw xxx
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Einhornbaby on July 20, 2012, 12:18:50 PM
That's weird because they have sponsored the German Fair in the past

according to Hasbro Germany : its impossible and forbidden to do so... "german rights say so" ... Well I heard they want to give some prizes for the competitions... the organizer of the german con told me, that Hasbro asked if its ok to give old stuff. I bet they will give G3.5 or something. 10 dozens of talking Starsong... o.o just as last year XD
Well at least we can be happy that there will be anything :/
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on July 21, 2012, 03:22:25 AM
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only once did hasbro donate the ponies to UK ponycon UK ponycon has paid hasbro for the rest exclusive ponies in the past in the past the fair have generously donated a few bay breeze's and a trolly and frisco to us

UK ponycon has always loved being able to bring an exclusive to the UK for the collectors, plus it helps raise funds for our chosen charities too

love pkw xxx

Sorry, I guess I worded that a little wrong, or rather should have put some info from my post before into that last one.  I just wanted to give some insight since I have past experience with buying a design/production run. 

It's really more about the run than the cost.  I think the UK Con usually does about 300 exclusives each year, right?  300 is not enough for Hasbro to do an individual run, whether paid for or donated.  Because the Fair and SDCC order at least 1,000 pieces (the minimum amount to put a pony into a production run) then they can run an extra 300 or whatever that UK ordered.  That's how it was explained to me by Hasbro in years past.  I'm thinking this year, since the SDCC sales are basically all thier own, they decided to keep the majority of pieces made for themselves, and set a small amount aside for the Fair.  I'm assuming since an exclusive design has been purchased and produced by the Fair for several years now, they were willing to do at least that. 

It would have been nice if they set an amount aside for UK to purchase as well, but I think they're focusing on holding all the profit themselves with this one.  Sucks. 

no need to be sorry :hug: :)

i appreciate your post :) how you have worked with hasbro is very different to ponycon's experience.

the ponycon has had between 60-250 (max) ponies per year, but it has always been upto hasbro how many ponies ponycon gets. ponycon is simply told how many hasbro uk can get hold of. in its simplest form: ponycon ask hasbro uk if there is the chance of a pony, then hasbro uk then ask hasbro us if there are ponies, who then report back to hasbro uk, who get back to ponycon. there is no short cut though, believe me ponycon has tried every which way :(

love pkw xxx

edit! i got my numbers wrong :P 60-500 ponies, not 250 ;)  500 (pinki pie) was the most we ever got, the past few years we have only been able to purchase 60 ponies (meadow and isis)

love pkw xxx
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Reaperfox on July 21, 2012, 03:55:37 AM
It's worth noting that we have emailled Hasbro *six times* asking for clarification or help in any form, and had no response. Now in the process of calling to try and speak to a human being who will actually try and work with us in any way whatsoever.

As MLPLaura said already, it was 10k pieces, not £s or $s. Sigh.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: hathorcat on July 21, 2012, 09:15:33 AM
I can only imagine the amount of time and effort you and the committee are putting into this Reaperfox! Thanks for continuing to try...

Are HB just being even more unhelpful than normal this year do you feel?
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Archer on July 25, 2012, 12:55:47 PM
Hey guys, just got back from my holiday and foudn this thread. As Ponycon's Chair this year can i just say how nice it is to see the support you guys have here for the con :D I can honestly say that after seeing how much you guys want us to have :muffin: Pony at this years con, it makes me more determined to get on at Hasbro to see if we can secure even a few for the convention goers :) As others have said, the 10,000 figure is ponies and not money. I'm actually surprised that the other cons have been told that the basic run of a pony is 1,000 as I have been told in all my dealings with Hasbro that the minimum run is 10,000 which is just madness. Thanks again for the support guys and i really do hope we can do something for you :)
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: partypony566 on July 25, 2012, 02:40:51 PM
Thank you archer, sounds like a big headache for all of you on the committee! :hug:
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Marigold on July 25, 2012, 02:41:15 PM
I read the whole thread and just got annoyed with bronies being mean about the other generations being at the convention

Don't they know, but for G1 there would be no FIM?


I missed all the Brony fun as I came at the very end of the very last day (only day I could make it).  I am kind of sad I missed out on some of the activities and meeting people.  I didn't see any Bronys...or did I and I didn't know it?  Most of the people I talked to were there selling G1s or customs. 


10,000 units is way way too many.  I can't believe they didn't just save you 100 or so for your event.  It is not fair. 
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: Gingerbread on July 25, 2012, 02:45:18 PM
We all appreciate what you do! And I can't believe Hasbro said 10,000 units....that many extra Ditzys doesn't make her particularly exclusive.
Title: Re: Will Ditzy Doo be released for the UK PonyCon...?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on July 25, 2012, 09:58:27 PM
I'm so not surprised by this...  annoyed on behalf of collectors, but not surprised. 
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