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Pony Talk => MLP Nirvana => Topic started by: Tiara546 on December 18, 2016, 04:18:19 PM

Title: Italian Tootsie with reverse symbol and other variants
Post by: Tiara546 on December 18, 2016, 04:18:19 PM

Hello all,

I just discovered I got a reverse symbol italian Tootsie.
Was going to add her to the wiki, just wanted to know if anyone knows more about her?
The forum search didn't. Is she a known variant? How much could she be worth?
She is not for sale though, just interested to learn more about her. :)

Here come pictures of her, first her alone and second a comparision picture of just the symbols with regular Tootsie behind on the left:
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While we're at it, there also appears to be a Spanish Sundance with straight as well as with curly hair. The mane of the curly hair variant is also longer, just didn't want to fully unfold it but I hope you can see it on the pics.
Her hooves have no country marked, so NC.
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I also noticed a colour variant on the italian Moonstones, both of them (Glory and Moondancer pose).
One of these has more of a prussian blue, while the blue on the other variant is darker. The two different shades are the same on both poses.
I tried to photograph it for you. Is that really a variant and did anyone notice that as well?

Both shades of blue on italian Moonstone, Moondancer pose:
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Both shades of blue on italian Moonstone, Glory pose (does not show too well, unfortunately. I think this is because of body discolouration)
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The lighter symbol on both poses:
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The darker symbol on both poses:
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Title: Re: Italian Tootsie with reverse symbol and other variants
Post by: ghouldilocks on December 19, 2016, 07:01:02 AM

I think the color difference with Moonstone may be just normal fading; I've noticed similar on US release Moonstone. I know there is a lot of actual variation with Nirvana, though, so hopefully someone else will know more for certain!

Very neat about your reverse symbol Tootsie and the hair variant Sundance!

Title: Re: Italian Tootsie with reverse symbol and other variants
Post by: pinkkittywinks on December 19, 2016, 10:40:53 AM

I love the reversed symbol Italians! ^.^

They are pretty sneaky. I'm unsure how common they are as often you don't notice the difference. The symbols were hand stamped on and this explains all the variation you see with the Italians. You can find reverse symbols on many Italian ponies :)

I'm not sure quite how it changes her value, it depends if someone collects symbol variants of Italian ponies. Perhaps a Tootsie collector might like her?

Love pkw xxx

Title: Re: Italian Tootsie with reverse symbol and other variants
Post by: Einhornbaby on December 24, 2016, 03:37:12 PM

Its not too common but you can find reverse symbols on italians every now and then :) I like it a lot but you really need to compare two of the same pony to see the difference, lol. Sneaky ones they are :P
I have reversed symbol Lickety Split (still cant name the "right" one of them without looking it up again XD)

Same for the shades of color, it happens on italians. I think its even more common than the symbol thing. Your Moonstones have reversed symbols too, very nice, I like it <3

Title: Re: Italian Tootsie with reverse symbol and other variants
Post by: Tiara546 on December 30, 2016, 10:39:32 PM

Omg I didn't even notice the reverse symbols on Moonstone until now. :blush:
Thank you Einhornbaby!  :biggrin:

Title: Re: Italian Tootsie with reverse symbol and other variants
Post by: pinkkittywinks on January 01, 2017, 03:12:27 PM

Haha well spotted Einhornbaby!! ^.^

Love pkw xxx

Title: Re: Italian Tootsie with reverse symbol and other variants
Post by: LadyGuinevere on January 02, 2017, 07:58:12 AM

Darnit, another Tootsie for me to track down! XD

Title: Re: Italian Tootsie with reverse symbol and other variants
Post by: nhal039 on January 02, 2017, 11:35:12 PM

I think most italians have these mixed up symbols due to the person stamping them on :p i have an applebelle with inverted symbols

Title: Re: Italian Tootsie with reverse symbol and other variants
Post by: pinkkittywinks on January 03, 2017, 01:04:07 PM

Quote from: LadyGuinevere on January 02, 2017, 07:58:12 AM

Darnit, another Tootsie for me to track down! XD

You'd better check your herd in case one is already hiding there! :P

Quote from: nhal039 on January 02, 2017, 11:35:12 PM

I think most italians have these mixed up symbols due to the person stamping them on :p i have an applebelle with inverted symbols

I think that is true :) it's just a case of spotting it as it's quite a subtle difference.

Love pkw xxx

Title: Re: Italian Tootsie with reverse symbol and other variants
Post by: LadyGuinevere on January 03, 2017, 01:53:35 PM

Quote from: pinkkittywinks on January 03, 2017, 01:04:07 PM

Quote from: LadyGuinevere on January 02, 2017, 07:58:12 AM

Darnit, another Tootsie for me to track down! XD

You'd better check your herd in case one is already hiding there! :P

Tried that already ;) Although I only have two of her anyway (one carded and one loose)

Title: Re: Italian Tootsie with reverse symbol and other variants
Post by: Clipper on January 04, 2017, 12:44:54 AM

The reverse symbol ones should have pat pend scratched out on the bottom of the hooves. I noticed it on a few of my variants.

Title: Re: Italian Tootsie with reverse symbol and other variants
Post by: pinkkittywinks on January 04, 2017, 02:03:25 PM

Quote from: Clipper on January 04, 2017, 12:44:54 AM

The reverse symbol ones should have pat pend scratched out on the bottom of the hooves. I noticed it on a few of my variants.

Oh really? :) that's a neat little thing to know! Again I wouldn't have known that if you hadn't mentioned it.

Love pkw xxx

Title: Re: Italian Tootsie with reverse symbol and other variants
Post by: nhal039 on January 04, 2017, 02:28:25 PM

Awesome spotting clipper. I just checked mine and yep her non pat pending isnt there :)