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Title: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Loa on August 12, 2018, 05:14:50 AM
Does anyone else love finding their ancestors?

On my maternal line I just found my 14th x Grandfather who was born in 1590. *faints*

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: GazeboMouse on August 12, 2018, 07:43:01 AM
That's pretty impressive. I've added to my family tree, got it to about the 1700s, but as my ancestors were all farm labouring peasants, records go a bit sparse after that! So am filling in gaps in info about grandparent's siblings, have found out the names of my grandparent's siblings who died in infancy which was nice to know. And to see Victorian census records and how my relatives met as they were obviously in neighbouring streets is also interesting. One day I'd like to visit some of the villages my GGG Grandparents lived.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: BlackCurtains on August 12, 2018, 07:55:39 AM
My great grandparents were Russian/Irish and German/Welsh. I've never gotten very far, just a few generations. I know that my greatx2 grandfather was the last old fashioned dog catcher in whatever town in Germany he lived, and he was killed by a milk truck.

Now, my other greatx2 grandfather was pretty interesting and I've always wanted to find out more. He was born in Vologda and worked as a boatsman (like the song!) until he moved to a station in Moscow where he worked as a soviet scientist. Eventually, he came to the US, lied about his name and where he from, and became a Freemason. Just... :blink:

Tracing him was hard due to his lies (he said he was from Poland). I have a bunch of his stuff from my mom, both USSR and Freemason stuff. Fascinating!
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Mami Tomoe on August 12, 2018, 08:11:54 AM
Its fun and weird to figure out that im related to someone one that was on the mayflower im working on figuring out my paternal grandfather side
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on August 12, 2018, 08:23:10 AM
Yep... I got as far back as the 1690's... then things get foggy because that area of Europe was continually rampaged and pillaged through wars. 
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Barnacle_lady on August 12, 2018, 09:19:40 AM
Yes very interesting especially in the history part in how people came to that "location"
Every now and then I pick up a piece from my mother-grandmother side because thats the part most can be found online and can be linked. My grandmothers maiden name was Cohen so quite common in the Jewish community. I know my ancestors from that side came from Portugal. With a sad past (www II) and living in her birthtown I am positive there must be a lot to find. But sometimes I also want to know what of kind of history the other part of my DNA has. Then I think maybe I should do this DNA test to find out more.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: flutterscotch on August 12, 2018, 09:31:07 AM
I do, and I recently discovered I was related to Bruce Springsteen. Like 5th or 6th cousins, but still. It's basically the most New Jersey thing I can think of. And I AM from Monmouth/Ocean Counties (I lived in both for a long time), so there you go.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on August 12, 2018, 10:35:09 AM
I use familysearch.org and according to that I am a descendant of Cleopatra and Marc Antony.  Although, I'm not 100% sure how accurate that is because some of the Royal lines stretched the truth a bit to convince the "commoners" that they had a "right" to rule.  It's like at the end of "A Knight's Tale" when the prince claims that William Thatcher was descended from an obscure line. 

I am also a descendant of King Duncan (Scottish king who was killed by his cousin for the throne--also the basis for the play MacBeth), Rob Roy, and King Louis XIV.  Again, the only one I know for sure is King Duncan (because of my Grandma's research) but the royal lines all tended to intermarry so it's very likely that once you find one royal you end up with others.

Also with Family Search there's another site relativefinder.org that will tell you how closely related you are to celebrities.  I think it said I was something like 17th cousins 3 times removed from Walt Disney for example.

One of the fun features of Relative Finder is that you can see how you are related to your friends. 
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: banditpony on August 12, 2018, 01:37:30 PM
Well..
I wish.. but that depends on good records, and that just seems to be a dead end.

And just because people are married, doesn't mean that the wife had a kid from her husband. :/
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Gator on August 12, 2018, 01:48:51 PM
I used to have an ancestry.com account but canceled due to costs.  I can still work on my tree, I just don't have access to all the tools.  With my DNA, I'm 34% western European (some French and German), 33% Irish, Scottish, Wales, and 20% Scandinavian.  I've learned through research that the Scandinavian DNA could also be a result of Scots ancestors as some Scandinavian's migrated to Scotland, and my family says we're supposed to be mostly Scottish. 
The Highland Games come to Georgia once a year in October, and though I've hit a roadblock with my Hunter ancestry, I like to imagine I'm descended from Clans Hunter and Adams.  I like looking at family color tartans, and imagining myself wearing a kilt if I weren't so fat.
I found it interesting to find out that I had a multi-great grandfather who was chosen, along with two other men, to represent his county in a gathering of representatives for the state of Georgia when they were deciding to succeed from the Union.  He voted yes.  A book of his is in the library of a college in South Carolina.
I had another ancestor who went out possum hunting one night.  Somehow his oil lantern caught him on fire and he died a few days later of his burns!
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Bekuno on August 12, 2018, 03:55:55 PM
My mother has been doing Ancestry.com since I was born (1997) and she's gotten me interested. She's tracked my fathers side and her side back a lot. She also started tracking my boyfriend's family trees and got him interested. Also doing the same for my brother/best friend now. Anyone who approaches her with interest she's willing to help lol

She and two others in my family are dedicated to it. We don't pay for world traveler so we can't go outside the USA but that's alright. My parents have also done DNA testing for it.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on August 12, 2018, 04:09:10 PM
One of my ancestors was a Campbell and I married into a clan of the MacDonalds.  HAHAHA  oh the irony!
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Beldarna on August 12, 2018, 10:14:08 PM
I think it is interesting but don't have the energy to search myself. But on my mothers side there are several who are interested and are doing searches and every find they do they share in the family facebook group. We're descendents from Waara in Finland. I think they're down to the 1500s now. Now and again they find a picture and share. There are discussions weather or not we have samiblood (native) as well, since coming to Sweden, but there are no evidence found yet as there would have been during a time mixing blood with Sapmí would have been shameful. :( My grandmother is adamant there are no blood, and mom is sure because several of us have the features of it. I am tempted to make a DNA test to find out.

On dad side, I think we have a story back to the 1800s.. his side of the family came from Germany and the most excited thing happening there was a woman being hanged for murder.

I am very tempted to make a DNA test with Ancestry to see what comes up. A friend did and it was very interesting. I'm just not sure how accurate it is.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Loa on August 13, 2018, 04:04:00 AM
One of my ancestors was a Campbell and I married into a clan of the MacDonalds.  HAHAHA  oh the irony!

Hi Cousin! :P
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Zapper on August 13, 2018, 05:59:58 AM
I think it's interesting to a degree but usually I find people who are obsessed with their ancestors to be kinda creepy. I have never met a person who didn't believe they came from a line of royalty. And don't get me started on those who believe a certain "bloodline" makes them superior people.
This way you end up with people like my ex, who was obsessed with France to a point he claimed his 12% French ancestry erased his Croatian parents and he himself was French nobility, so special and unlike those uncouth Croatians. It was a pain in the butt.

The origins of names is what really interests me and that is closely tied to ancestry research. This way I found out about my ancestors being huguenots fleeing from French Catholics to Germany and settling there. My Silesian ancestors also fled to Germany. So you could say I am a descendant of illegal immigrants due to persecution :P
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on August 13, 2018, 07:39:19 AM
Some people definitely get crazy with it!

One of the fun stories from my mom's side is my great grandfather (her grandpa) came over from Switzerland.  I'm only 3rd generation American on that line.  He went through Boston Immigration, which is interesting because it was mostly Irish and Italians that went through Boston.  I think he was a teenager at the time and came over to live with his older brother but he learned 7 languages by playing marbles with the all local kids.  Apparently his neighborhood was quite diverse. 

One line on our tree ends abruptly because during the Depression one of my great aunts was placed in an orphanage with her brother while their dad went to find work.  Her mother had died and apparently that was a common enough practice during the Depression to leave kids at an orphanage and then when you could afford them again you went back for them.  Well, the orphanage caught fire and all the records were lost so we have no idea who her parents were because she was young enough that she didn't know.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: MerryAnvil on August 13, 2018, 08:33:11 AM
I was always interested in mine, but it's less of a 'oh my gosh I need to know everything about my ancestors' and more 'Huh, it'd be interesting to find out how my family lived'. I'm more interested in whether my ancestors were farmers or bankers than whether they were famous. It'd be interesting to know if blacksmithing was a trade that was in my blood!

I do know that my ancestry is heavily Scottish, and mostly farmers. My paternal grandmother was a Duncan, which is pretty cool because my sis and I were able to join the Donnachaidh clan thanks to that bloodline. My maternal grandmother was a Rose, another Scottish family. They also have a clan, but it's a lot smaller and you generally don't see them at festivals that often. Funny enough, the Rose and Donnachaidh clans actually warred with each other briefly, as they were on opposite sides during the whole Jacobite uprising haha.

Scottish clans are awesome, and it's really neat to go to Scottish festivals and meet up with your clan and watch clan members complete in the Highland games. They're basically like a big, welcoming family. I go to Scottish festivals a lot anyways since the blacksmith association I'm a member of puts on demonstrations there, so I get to see my clan several times a year. This year was our Chief's 80th birthday and also his 35th year as Chief, which was pretty cool.

My biological father's family pretty much came from Oklahoma and the West in general, and I have some Cherokee blood. He had enough to qualify for a scholarship to a Native American college if he'd wanted to go, but he didn't. Which is just as well; I honestly don't understand how you could qualify for that when your papers all list you as Caucasian and you have no immediate ancestors who are Native American lol. There's a small group of people who like to go around claiming they're 'Native American' because they're 1/63rd Cheyenne or whatever. It's silly. I'm a Caucasian who just happens to have Native American ancestry, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on August 13, 2018, 09:52:22 AM
One of my ancestors was a Campbell and I married into a clan of the MacDonalds.  HAHAHA  oh the irony!

Hi Cousin! :P

Soooooo which side are you? 

I have some FUN names in my family tree... I think my favorites are Alphleda and Jehoba.  Don't think those are coming back into fashion anytime soon...
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: mlp4me on August 15, 2018, 09:22:13 AM
One of my ancestors was a Campbell and I married into a clan of the MacDonalds.  HAHAHA  oh the irony!
heheheh.


I know my husband's Mom's side is pretty well cataloged. My uncle supposedly has a book of my Dad's side. I feel like DNA testing is a way for our government to have even more access to us so I guess it makes me paranoid to even have any testing done. Not that I have anything to hide or to offer humanity with my DNA.... Mainly German roots here from what I've been able to verbally confirm with family.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Barnacle_lady on August 15, 2018, 10:44:35 AM
I really enjoy reading this :) I should look more into it I think. As for the royalty line. I won't be surprised if a lot of "native europeans" have some of it in their blood. It is known that the royals have been "fooling" around a lot.
@mlp4me: I understand your concerns but the DNA tests are usually done by private companies where you pay them to find out.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: brightberry on August 15, 2018, 12:51:28 PM
I'm interested in it!  I do have some amazing photos.  But I haven't joined any online sites.  My grandmother had a big fat book that supposedly traced our ancestors to the Mayflower.  I used to think that was highly unlikely until I realized that just one person on the Mayflower could have spawned millions. So maybe?  I think the estimate of Mayflower descendants is 35 million. The people who made that book must be very rich.

But what I find most interesting is that all humans most common recent ancestor lived as recently as 3,000 years ago.  That's just so amazing to me.  I know people are trying, but I would love to see how far back people can trace to the "most common" ancestor.

Ancestor Video - it's ok to be smart (https://youtu.be/mnYSMhR3jCI)

Scientific Study (http://www.stat.yale.edu/~jtc5/papers/CommonAncestors/NatureAncestorsPressRelease.html)

Tracing Mayflower Descendants (https://familyhistorydaily.com/genealogy-help-and-how-to/are-you-one-of-35-million-mayflower-descendants-heres-how-to-find-out/)

Ancestor Article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/01/AR2006070100463_pf.html?noredirect=on)
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on August 15, 2018, 06:49:10 PM
I really enjoy reading this :) I should look more into it I think. As for the royalty line. I won't be surprised if a lot of "native europeans" have some of it in their blood. It is known that the royals have been "fooling" around a lot.

My mom once joked that one of our lines probably goes through a kitchen maid and a randy prince.  She was joking, but she's probably still right.  :lol:
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Noasar on August 15, 2018, 06:51:08 PM
I’d love to trace my family tree but I haven’t got a clue how to get started. What websites do you all use? How much does it cost?
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: flutterscotch on August 15, 2018, 07:22:16 PM
I really enjoy reading this :) I should look more into it I think. As for the royalty line. I won't be surprised if a lot of "native europeans" have some of it in their blood. It is known that the royals have been "fooling" around a lot.

My mom once joked that one of our lines probably goes through a kitchen maid and a randy prince.  She was joking, but she's probably still right.  :lol:

There is definitely a castle or two in my past, but...like, they're glorified mansions.  Nothing huge or famous.   And not actual royalty. This is the one I recall offhand. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moreton_Corbet_Castle

But what I find most impressive is that two of my descendants (one of two father and son pairs) signed the Flushing Remonstrance (direct line, and I knew this as a kid, because my 3rd cousin or something researched it well for a long time, 40+ years). It was the boilerplate for the United States' freedom of religion amendment...and he wasn't even a Quaker. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flushing_Remonstrance 
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on August 15, 2018, 09:49:41 PM
I’d love to trace my family tree but I haven’t got a clue how to get started. What websites do you all use? How much does it cost?

Ancestry.com is the most popular site - it links into a number of the databases.  I also use findagrave.com to cross-reference because it lists siblings, children, spouses, etc.

Ancestry does have a paywall for most records, BUT on certain holidays, they have freebie days.  Like on Victoria Day , the UK records are free to access that day.  Or on the 4th of July, there are a bunch of free US records that you normally have to pay for. 

I think if you access through a library, you have a few other databases open to you for free.  FamilySearch.org is definitely that way.

I haven't paid any money yet and I already have over 850 people in my family tree that I have found using Ancestry.com  :)
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: BlackCurtains on August 16, 2018, 07:16:36 AM
I’d love to trace my family tree but I haven’t got a clue how to get started. What websites do you all use? How much does it cost?

Ancestry.com is the most popular site - it links into a number of the databases.  I also use findagrave.com to cross-reference because it lists siblings, children, spouses, etc.

Ancestry does have a paywall for most records, BUT on certain holidays, they have freebie days.  Like on Victoria Day , the UK records are free to access that day.  Or on the 4th of July, there are a bunch of free US records that you normally have to pay for. 

I think if you access through a library, you have a few other databases open to you for free.  FamilySearch.org is definitely that way.

I haven't paid any money yet and I already have over 850 people in my family tree that I have found using Ancestry.com  :)

Thanks for the info! I'd like to find out more too and figured you had to pay big $ for anything.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on August 16, 2018, 07:18:43 AM
I’d love to trace my family tree but I haven’t got a clue how to get started. What websites do you all use? How much does it cost?

So one of the things you can do is find a local LDS Family History Center.  You do not have to be LDS (Mormon) to use them and they are free.  They can help you get started and they have a ton of information available.  You can go to https://www.familysearch.org/locations/ to find one near you.  (No, they shouldn't try to convert you if you're just doing genealogy, though if you have questions they will be glad to answer them.)
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on August 17, 2018, 03:09:49 PM
I had an ancestry account, I was paying but have stopped it for a few months since it is kind of expensive. I'm thinking of restarting it as they sent me a email saying new records have been listed and some of the stuff I've been looking for on my dad's side looks like it might be in that file.

But I did the DNA for myself and my dad and gave one to one of my cousins for Christmas, so we all have our DNA.

I've gone back pretty far but I knew a tad bit about some of my history, I'm actually a descendant on my mom's side of a man named Arthur Allen, he build a home here in Virginia back in 1676 and it is recognized as the oldest brick dwelling in North America. Incidently if you go to the page myself and some of my family members picture is on the front page right now as they had a descendants day this summer, so wow, didn't know they put that up there.

https://preservationvirginia.org/historic-sites/bacons-castle/ (https://preservationvirginia.org/historic-sites/bacons-castle/)


My DNA says I'm
29% Great Britian
24% Ireland/Scotland/Wales
21% Europe West
17% Scandinavia
6% Iberian Peninsula
3% South Europe

There is also another site called gedmatch.com

you can download your raw data from ancestry and upload it into gedmatch. Another member of ancestry contacted me and told me about it. It's free and has a bunch of different things you can do. You can go into some of the more ancient DNA stuff.

Like one of the tests breaks your DNA down more, so instead of telling me I'm 21% Europe West. This one has a Eurogene DNA breakdown that gives more of a breakdown like 7.94% French, and interestingly this test tells me I'm 13.99% Iberian, where ancestry says I'm only 6%.

This one I printed out also has stuff like I'm: South Asian .13% and Amerindian .12% Basque 4.02%

I think it's cool but I think at some point it seems we can only go back so far finding people as far as paper records go, but it's cool that the DNA can tell you such interesting breakdowns. But also find people you're related to DNA wise.

I wonder if any of us ponyfolks are related :)
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Noasar on August 17, 2018, 06:18:39 PM
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My DNA says I'm
29% Great Britian
24% Ireland/Scotland/Wales
21% Europe West
17% Scandinavia
6% Iberian Peninsula
3% South Europe

Ireland/Scotland/Wales is Great Britain! So you are 53% British! How cool.

You have all inspired me to try and trace my family tree. Not sure how reliable the DNA stuff is...is it legit? I know with dog DNA tests they pretty much just make things up.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on August 17, 2018, 06:55:08 PM
You have all inspired me to try and trace my family tree. Not sure how reliable the DNA stuff is...is it legit? I know with dog DNA tests they pretty much just make things up.

Well, I saw a thing where identical triplets sent in their DNA and two of them were close but the third wasn't as close as the other two. They sent them to 23andme and the breakdown of the results were a little different for each of them.  I think they did the reveal on a talk show.  You can probably find it on YouTube.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on August 17, 2018, 07:31:58 PM
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My DNA says I'm
29% Great Britian
24% Ireland/Scotland/Wales
21% Europe West
17% Scandinavia
6% Iberian Peninsula
3% South Europe

Ireland/Scotland/Wales is Great Britain! So you are 53% British! How cool.

You have all inspired me to try and trace my family tree. Not sure how reliable the DNA stuff is...is it legit? I know with dog DNA tests they pretty much just make things up.

Yes its on the same island but im sure there is a difference. A friend also did the dna test on ancestry and she has close relatives in ireland, so it could actually pinpoint the area in ireland on ancestry. Her ireland percentage was way higher than mine.

So i think its affected by how close you are. plus my cousin did hers and we are 1st cousins and her great britian was way up in the 40s compared to mine.

My dads percent is also way different, so that is how ancestry lists is so im pretty sure there are markers in thr dna and enought people have done the tests where they can see the difference in the ireland/scotland/wales compared to great britian.

I know the dna is reliable, especially on identifying family. Ancestry shows my dad as my dad, my first cousin and and uncle come up correctly. There are also other cousins who have twken it that show up in my matches.

Its a good time to buy a kit on ancestry, they are on sale till the 20th of this month.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Taffeta on August 17, 2018, 09:57:21 PM
Not to split hairs, but I don't think many Irish people would be happy being called Great Britain xD.

I am guessing the 2nd percentage on Uni's breakdown means Celtic ancestry of some kind, because those are the nations with the most Celtic association - language, etc. And that's why it's separated out.

I don't really understand what 'Great Britain' is meant to mean, though, in this context, since GB is technically England, Scotland, Wales (not Northern Ireland). I would've thought that if those account for Celtic, then Anglo Saxon and Viking would be covered by Europe West and Scandinavia?

My mother is very keen on this whole DNA thing and is still looking into whether to do it. My supervisor at university is also very hot on his - he's from Kentucky but a lot of his DNA matches are dotted across Germany :) He's married to a Japanese woman so goodness knows what his son's genetic map looks like...



Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on August 18, 2018, 02:04:01 AM
Not to split hairs, but I don't think many Irish people would be happy being called Great Britain xD.

I am guessing the 2nd percentage on Uni's breakdown means Celtic ancestry of some kind, because those are the nations with the most Celtic association - language, etc. And that's why it's separated out.

I don't really understand what 'Great Britain' is meant to mean, though, in this context, since GB is technically England, Scotland, Wales (not Northern Ireland). I would've thought that if those account for Celtic, then Anglo Saxon and Viking would be covered by Europe West and Scandinavia?

My mother is very keen on this whole DNA thing and is still looking into whether to do it. My supervisor at university is also very hot on his - he's from Kentucky but a lot of his DNA matches are dotted across Germany :) He's married to a Japanese woman so goodness knows what his son's genetic map looks like...



They may break it down the way they do depending on certain things, like the irish can acutally be broken down differently for some people. I saw on tv a lady did ancestry and like my friend they were able to pinpoint where in ireland her family came from.

Mine is potentially not close enough related to compare. However ancestry does say that they percentages can change. Im assuming as more people take it you get more and more relative matches.

Ive got so many matches on mine its kind of amazing.

Also being american/usa the ancestry site shows me when my ancestors migrated to the usa and what parts of the usa etc.

Im pretty sure if someone was say more welsh or scotish, maybe there thing wouldnt be lumped together.

But with mine It may not be able to tell exactly.

While i was doing the tree and connecting, i was able to find the german connection, but i still have to do a little research to make sure its right. Obviously with thr connection to arthur allen who came over in the 1600s from england...thats where my GB is coming from, i need to look at my dads again because if i remeber right his GB was lower than mine. Whe i get to work ill post his so people can see the difference. But i think my GB is mostly coming in from moms side.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Noasar on August 18, 2018, 05:46:26 AM
I didn’t want to get technical but if you want to really understand the craziness that is the British Isles:

GB = England, Scotland, Wales
UK= England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland
British Isles = England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland

So I was generalising but I couldn’t understand why they put GB on your ancestry DNA thing and then listed the countries separately underneath as well, when they had already included them under GB.  They only really needed to include Ireland separately. 

Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: banditpony on August 18, 2018, 06:20:03 AM
DNA testing.

https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/which_ancestry_dna_test_to_choose.shtml

Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on August 18, 2018, 07:39:36 AM
I don't think any of it is 100% perfect, but I do know for the most part Ancestry will match you with people who you are related to correctly.

gedmatch's site as I talked about in another post can give slightly different results but a lot of their tests really don't have a description. You just put your code in after you've uploaded your raw DNA file and then it'll break it down. So unless anyone really wants to read the whole thing on the genetics, to me it's just find to find out the breakdown but that it can also connect folks that didn't even know they were related.

Okay so backing up to the whole Ireland/Scotland/Wales discussion/question. I think obviously since my folks immigrated to the USA, the descriptions and site maps they show reflect 'immigrating' - I'm sort of thinking that someone who takes this test in England will potentially have different site maps than I do.

Anyway, I can click on each of the sections. So for Ireland/Scotland/Wales, when I click on that it gives me a whole other page about this percentage

Here is a copy paste of some of the info on that page
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Ireland/Scotland/Wales
Primarily located in: Ireland, Wales, Scotland

Also found in: France, England

Located in the eastern North Atlantic Ocean, Ireland, Scotland, and Wales remain linked to Celtic culture. Here, along with a handful of other isolated communities within the British Isles, are some of the last holdouts of the ancient Celtic languages that were once spoken throughout much of Western Europe. And though closely tied to Great Britain, both geographically and historically, all three have maintained their unique character through the centuries.

Prehistoric Ireland & Scotland
After the Ice Age glaciers retreated from Northern Europe more than 9,000 years ago, hunter-gatherers spread north into what is now Great Britain and Ireland, during the Middle Stone Age. Some 3,000 years later, during the New Stone Age, the first farming communities appeared in Ireland. The Bronze Age began 4,500 years ago and brought with it new skills linked to metalworking and pottery. During the late Bronze Age, Iron was discovered in mainland Europe and a new cultural phenomenon began to evolve.

According to long-standing theory, around 500 B.C., the Bronze Age gave way to an early Iron Age culture that spread across all of Western Europe, including the British Isles. These new people originated in central Europe, near what is Austria today. They were divided into many different tribes, but were collectively known as the Celts. New genetic evidence may challenge this theory of Irish origin.

The Celts
From around 400 B.C. to 275 B.C., various tribes expanded to the Iberian Peninsula, France, England, Scotland and Ireland—even as far east as Turkey. Today we refer to these tribes as "Celtic," though that is a modern term which only came into use in the 18th century. As the Roman Empire expanded beyond the Italian peninsula, it began to come into increasing contact with the Celts of France, whom the Romans called “Gauls.”

So I think as Taffeta explained, maybe it's more Celtic that it's talking about, or at least that is what it sounds like to me when I read through the above.

It looks like the Great Britian is described as Anglo-Saxon

Another thing that I just noticed (as they are always adding new features and I didn't notice this page before) If I go under the great britian info page, there is also a page now that is called Genetic Diversity. On that page at the top:
Quote
Genetic Diversity in the Great Britain Region
The people living in the Great Britain region today are more admixed than most other regions, which means that when creating genetic ethnicity estimates for people native to this area, we often see similarities to DNA profiles from other nearby regions. We’ve found that approximately 60% of the typical native’s DNA comes from this region.

Under that are more graphs and such but it shows How I compare to a person in Great Britian, It shows my 29% and says Typical native would be around 60%

There are even more graphs under but maybe we need to find someone who is native to UK who has taken a test, maybe that would show us why it's labeled the way it is on ancestry.

Whats internesting is the Ireland/Scotland/Wales says that a typical native there would be 95%

Anyway, I was going to post my dad's DNA so you guys could see the difference

Dad is listed
Europe West 46% (mine is 21%)
Ireland/Scotland/Wales 32% (mine is 24%)
Iberian 14% (mine is 6%)
Great Britian 6% (mine is 29%)
Scandinavian 2% (mine is 17%)

Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: banditpony on August 18, 2018, 07:36:31 PM
I don't think any of it is 100% perfect, but I do know for the most part Ancestry will match you with people who you are related to correctly.

I think genetics test should be 100% for telling you haplogroups...

But then it's statistics after that for ethnicities and locations.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: tikibirds on August 19, 2018, 12:54:48 AM
I tried once, a long time ago but didnt get too far.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on August 20, 2018, 08:02:13 AM
DNA testing.

https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/which_ancestry_dna_test_to_choose.shtml



The link above has info on the GEDmatch that I talked about. You can download your raw dna from some of the sites like ancestry and upload it into GEDmatch. There is a bunch of different stuff on there you can run your DNA kit through once you upload.

Like for instance, there is one that will predict your eye color, mine was fairly close, not exactly but it did get the general color correct.

Are you parents related test, which it says mine are distantly related, which I found out that by using ancestry's family tree features when I was paying - so I'd already determined that anyway before I used GEDmatch.

The other interesting things on it are all the different tests for admixture heritage.

Like i can use my kit number and select Eurogenes, then you can choose different tests from there, like Eurogene Hunter Gatherer Vs Farmer

So for mine it shows
53.81 Baltic Hunter Gatherer
35.73 Mediterranian Farmer
7.21 Anatolian Farmer
1.66 South Asian Hunter Gatherer
.75 South American Hunter Gatherer

Do I automatically know what all that means...meh not fully.

So just under the Eurogene tests there are like 13 tests, but it really doesn't tell you what each of those tests are actually, you have to read more into each and don't really have time to post all that here, etc.

If I just plug in to the first test on the list which is called Eurogenes K13
You'll get a page with a graph with info to the test
 So this will come up
This utility uses the Eurogenes K13 model (rev 21 Nov 2013), created by Davidski (Polako). Questions and comments about this model
should be directed to him at his Project Blog.

my graph comes up under that and lists
Population   
North_Atlantic   50.35
Baltic   22.14
West_Med   15.70
West_Asian   2.12
East_Med   5.45
Red_Sea   1.01
South_Asian   2.15
East_Asian   -   
Siberian   -   
Amerindian   1.08
Oceanian   -   
Northeast_African   -   
Sub-Saharan   -   

 
You'd probably have to look into the test info itself to understand what they define as which, etc. But it's still interesting to see what the tests say.

One of the test breaks it down and shows more countries, regions. So it just depends I think on which test I'd want to pay more attention to, etc.








Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Loa on August 20, 2018, 09:02:56 PM
Just found this from one of my ancestors:
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Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Noasar on August 21, 2018, 04:30:19 AM
That’s so cool Loa!
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on August 21, 2018, 07:53:46 AM
Why did they type the lower case "s" with an "f"?  It makes reading it out loud sound funny.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on August 21, 2018, 10:02:03 AM
Why did they type the lower case "s" with an "f"?  It makes reading it out loud sound funny.

it's just how old-fashioned cursive script developed over the years.  Another fun example is how the letter "w" did NOT exist for many hundreds of years, it was always "v" which happened to look A LOT like "u". 
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Barnacle_lady on August 21, 2018, 10:18:16 AM
Thats cool Loa.

I had to look up what the Mayflower was. I had a hunch it was a boat but didn't realise important for history. It looks a bit after WW II when people immigrated to other parts of the world for a better life.
I checked out the ancestry.com site and saw there is a german site from them too which could give more info from my grandfather (mom side) since he was born in Germany. Something to think about :) And DNA could be for my unknown father side but realising that Israel (where I was born) also has this large immigration pool.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on August 21, 2018, 10:22:42 AM
Why did they type the lower case "s" with an "f"?  It makes reading it out loud sound funny.

it's just how old-fashioned cursive script developed over the years.  Another fun example is how the letter "w" did NOT exist for many hundreds of years, it was always "v" which happened to look A LOT like "u".

If you look closely, at the end of "Goods" there is an actual lower case "s" (7th line down near the end) so it's kind of silly that they used "f" on the rest of it.  They also use it on "Cards," "Games," and "his" but not on "himself."  I wonder why some words merited an "s" and some an "f."
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: banditpony on August 21, 2018, 11:48:05 AM
Why did they type the lower case "s" with an "f"?  It makes reading it out loud sound funny.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on August 21, 2018, 01:03:09 PM
Ah.  I see.

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Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Haruna on August 24, 2018, 09:41:50 PM
Just found this from one of my ancestors:
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That's so cool! How did you find that? Have you ever found any photos of your more recent ancestors?

My dad's side of the family can trace itself back to John Smith (no . . . not a common name at all . . .), our Scottish ancestor who came to North Carolina with his wife and kids (his wife died during the voyage, sadly). He came from Argyllshire in the 1700s. I'm super proud of the Scottish side of my heritage, partly because I'm told I take after the Smith side.
Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: Sky_Rocket_Sammie on August 29, 2018, 10:05:51 AM
Representing clan MacTavish! Via my dad's mother's side of the family. Within the family, his parents and going back from them have all been well documented. Growing up I had easy access to that and guess that's what started my love of family histories.

My mom's family has been trickier due to things like the boarding school system, which cut a huge chunk out of her families history. Her immediate family are enrolled members of the Eastern Band Cherokee, which traces its degree of blood differently than the rest of the Cherokee nation. Plus a lot of the family history is oral which also leads to gaps in the physical record.  Our sir name very common among Native American people here's in the States.

Like uber common, so that a certain movie franchise brought it to light and now I get "did you pick it because of "blank". Nope, I was born with it and the family has been using it for well over a hundred years. :biggrin:


Title: Re: Anyone enjoy Genealogy?
Post by: vira on August 29, 2018, 11:25:45 AM
My aunt recently got into it, and found out we're descended from one of the Wilhelm Grimm, of the Brothers Grimm!! IIRC, he's one of my 4 times great grandfathers.

Our library system lets us use Ancestry, so my mother and I are probably going to do some digging as well. I'm interested in knowing about my dads side of the family, since they almost never talk about family history.

Also, I'm getting a kick outta seeing some other Clan MacDonald friends! :-D
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