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Title: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: kingluke on October 25, 2019, 03:43:10 AM
Hello everyone,

You know how some ponies have forelock cuts right?
My questions is, how did they get them?
Like, did children only cut of their forelock, or were they made this way?

Anyone got answers?

Thanks.

Cheers,

Luke
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: freezestime on October 25, 2019, 04:30:29 AM
Well, I got some theories.

A child might not like it, so chop.
Could be difficult to tame, so chop.
All the other ponies have no forelocks, so chop.
Its a different hair length, so chop.
Might've melted together, so chop.
Wanted to give the pony a hairstyle but after an attempt at styling, it looks horrible, so chop.

Misunderstood the question, probably stylistic choice.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: HollowZero on October 25, 2019, 04:52:06 AM
I had a few cut forelocks on my childhood ponies. I probably disliked that they faced another direction from the mane. I also cut some of their hair to distinguish mine from my friend's ponies.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: kingluke on October 25, 2019, 05:41:03 AM
thanks for your answers. :)
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Ragamuffin on October 25, 2019, 07:53:25 AM
I find it a weird choice since with G1s at least, I don't find them that bothersome?

However, with G2s, that's another story. ;) They have crazy forelocks that stick straight up. Sundance was my least favourite pony because of that, all the others had long hair, but she was the only one who had hair sticking up! I never cut it, but I did tape it down.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 25, 2019, 08:37:29 AM
Because some kids are brats. I bought a pony for my cousin's boyfriend's daughter last year and the first thing she wanted to do was give her a haircut.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Sakuyamon on October 25, 2019, 09:34:20 AM
Kids dont always understand that what they do have consequenses and get odd ideas. I never did something to a pony but I remember that when I was a kid, I did some stupid things... I cut my own eyelashes because I thought they were too long, I drew crowns on Bambi in a book I had, because royalty wear crowns but bambi didnt in that book (totally regreted that afterward).  I put lotion on a mcdonalds barbie figure and thought it would disappear on its own just like it did on skin... I also remember having a hard time grasping the fact that the hair on toys wouldn't grow back if it was cut like human hair.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on October 25, 2019, 09:40:50 AM
I've seen a few people say they did it because they felt like the hair was in the pony's eyes and it couldn't see.  (I love forelocks myself and didn't give them the chop as a kid, lol.  I wish every pony gen had forelocks.)
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Sunset on October 25, 2019, 09:44:26 AM
I didn’t cut pony hair as a child.  But to be fair to kids that did... it’s a form of play.  Cutting hair is something that adults are allowed to do but that children aren’t allowed to do except on toys.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: SundanceSadie on October 25, 2019, 01:48:08 PM
This!
I was just thinking the same thing the other day when I realized I don’t own a baby glory who hasn’t had a forelock trim  :blink:
My first thought was...a child sneaking scissors and just starting the haircut when someone catches them..
Hence, stopping at the forelock  :angel:
New hairstyle interrupted. Probably the same kids who had all the pens, hilighters, and sharpies! Lol
I actually don’t mind a “well loved” pony most of the time. Lord knows I’ve given many Barbies a new haircut  :biggrin:
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 25, 2019, 01:54:56 PM
Its up to the parents to teach their kids to take care of their things.

My kid went through a Syd stage and it ended after multiple admonitions, toys chucked in the trash, or given away if they could be salvaged, and not getting replacements for whatever she purposely wrecked. After that, she took much better care of the items she recieved.

I was a clumsy child, but never a destructive child. A clumsy child who breaks things is different from a destructive one.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Ponyfan on October 25, 2019, 03:28:43 PM
I think it's probably mostly a combination of kids not realizing that toy pony hair won't grow back after it's been cut and some kids being destructive with their toys.  My cousin hated Barbie and buried all of her dolls and Barbie things in the backyard.

 I've heard one person say that she wanted her pony to have the same hairstyle as the matching pony in the cartoon so she tried to cut it to make it match.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 25, 2019, 05:39:26 PM
Its not hard to tell them, don't cut hair, it won't grow back. Kids aren't dumb.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: caseysealia on October 25, 2019, 05:48:26 PM
Probably because hair styling is fun! Me and my sister did it a lot, and I don't know if it was issue with not realizing that it never grew back, or just because it was fun to do. Parents don't always know that kids cut the hair anyway, so how's the kid to know I guess.  :huh: I thought some g1s were made with forelocks?
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on October 25, 2019, 06:13:58 PM
Yes, most G1s had forelocks except (most) unicorns and some later Euro ponies. :)
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: caseysealia on October 25, 2019, 06:17:07 PM
Yes, most G1s had forelocks except (most) unicorns and some later Euro ponies. :)
Thanks for clearing that up!
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Shy Violet on October 25, 2019, 06:49:20 PM
I think it's natural for kids to want to style and cut their dolls and pony's hair. I didn't do much cutting but I loved having spa days with my ponies and styling their hair for hours. I also think that different people treat their things differently. I taught my kids to take good care of their things and they weren't destructive. My best friend on the other hand treats toys as very disposable. She let her kids DESTROY their toys. Colored on them, hair cuts, purposely breaking them. I had to be very strict with her kids and watch them around my kids things. They even smashed one of my porcelain barbies for fun  :cry: and she didn't care. they were hunks of plastic to her. it was a good excuse to throw it out. and then she'd have to rebuy things if her kids wanted another one. Anyway, not making a rant of it, just that I got to see first hand a very different attitude on toys and how to treat your belongings and how the different parenting effects how the kid treats things.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 25, 2019, 07:21:35 PM
I think it's natural for kids to want to style and cut their dolls and pony's hair. I didn't do much cutting but I loved having spa days with my ponies and styling their hair for hours. I also think that different people treat their things differently. I taught my kids to take good care of their things and they weren't destructive. My best friend on the other hand treats toys as very disposable. She let her kids DESTROY their toys. Colored on them, hair cuts, purposely breaking them. I had to be very strict with her kids and watch them around my kids things. They even smashed one of my porcelain barbies for fun  :cry: and she didn't care. they were hunks of plastic to her. it was a good excuse to throw it out. and then she'd have to rebuy things if her kids wanted another one. Anyway, not making a rant of it, just that I got to see first hand a very different attitude on toys and how to treat your belongings and how the different parenting effects how the kid treats things.

Ooh I'd be ticked.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Shaz on October 26, 2019, 01:41:37 AM
I've heard of kids cutting their ponies' forelocks so they could see out....which always makes me wonder if one day there will be a load of those Sia ponies with haircuts on the second-hand market. I wasn't into hair-cutting as a child (didn't have ponies, but the only time I cut doll hair was this knock-off Rapunzel doll whose hair had become really tangly so I gave her a bob instead) but that fringe-in-the-eyes look would have me reaching for the scissors :lol:.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Taffeta on October 26, 2019, 04:01:07 PM
Yes, most G1s had forelocks except (most) unicorns and some later Euro ponies. :)
Thanks for clearing that up!

A lot of year 10 ponies like the Flower Fantasies as well, I think?

I never cut forelocks, and honestly, it's one of my pet hates - deliberate hair damage - because I don't reroot (to me this is customising). So I don't have a lot of sympathy with the kids that cut pony hair. We didn't have a lot of money when I was a kid so I took care of my ponies. They got well played with, true, but not abused.

Aside a big event like Christmas or Birthday, I didn't get ponies unless I saved up for them, so that might have also played a part in it.

The one time any hair on any of my ponies got cut it was because Songster and Star Gleamer got entangled together after Songster danced too enthusiastically near the BnG's tail. It was a very tiny section and my mother cut it so it would not show (it genuinely doesn't) but I CRIED SO MUCH because I was "hurting my pony" and I knew she'd never be the same again after.

I guess a very young child might get confused about hair growing back, especially with the BnG type mechanism...but while I DID wash out the curls on a couple of my ponies by accident, I never even thought of taking scissors to them.

Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Spectrum on October 26, 2019, 04:12:26 PM
I don't consider hair cutting to be destroying; if a kid thinks their pony looks better with a bobcut then it's no big deal. I consider it more a part of play than anything else.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Lilja on October 27, 2019, 03:16:24 AM
A lot of year 10 ponies like the Flower Fantasies as well, I think?

None of the year 10 ponies have forelocks, not even the Paradise Babies. Forelocks started to get phased out in year 7, and was pretty much gone by year 8. Except for most Baby sets, who still got forelocks for some reason, until year 10's Paradise Babies when even they didn't have it.

A similar thing happened with G2 and G4. Although they had a different type of forelock rooted horizontally on top of the head (also seen on a few late release G1s such as the Great Hair ponies). Both had it from the start (not all ponies though, it depended on the hairstyle), but it was eventually phased out for both of them. I think G3 was the only generation to never have it, but they did get it once G3.5 started up (because different hairstyles was a thing with them). Maybe that's why G3 is my least favorite generation.

OK, probably not. :P But I did like ponies with forelocks as a child. I noted that it made them look more like in G1 illustrations and cartoons, where they always had forelocks as part of their hairstyle no matter what. Cutting my ponies' hair was also unthinkable for me back then (funnily I'm probably more open to it as an adult), but looking at ponies with big or curly forelocks I can understand how some kids might've thought it got in the way. Sometimes it can obstruct the pony's face.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on October 27, 2019, 03:34:59 AM
Kids dont always understand that what they do have consequenses and get odd ideas.

I once got carried away and took one small bite out of all 6 apples in the fruit bowl. I can't remember why.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on October 27, 2019, 03:59:58 AM
Kids dont always understand that what they do have consequenses and get odd ideas.

I once got carried away and took one small bite out of all 6 apples in the fruit bowl. I can't remember why.

 :lmao: :lmao: Did something similar with biscuits
Title: Re: What\'s up with forelock trims?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 27, 2019, 08:20:01 PM
Kids dont always understand that what they do have consequenses and get odd ideas.

I once got carried away and took one small bite out of all 6 apples in the fruit bowl. I can't remember why.

Ahh sampling at its finest.  :lol:

Post Merge: October 27, 2019, 08:21:57 PM

I don't consider hair cutting to be destroying; if a kid thinks their pony looks better with a bobcut then it's no big deal. I consider it more a part of play than anything else.

Oh but it is. Deliberately. If the hair gets in the way, all they need do is brush it aside. If they want to style, they can do it without cutting. I'd say the same for any kid who cut their doll's hair on purpose, or their model horse's.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: caseysealia on October 27, 2019, 08:32:16 PM
I don't consider hair cutting to be destroying; if a kid thinks their pony looks better with a bobcut then it's no big deal. I consider it more a part of play than anything else.
I agree. It belongs to them and if they wanna cut it, then so be it. May suck as a collector but we seem to forget these are toys.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 27, 2019, 08:43:59 PM
I don't consider hair cutting to be destroying; if a kid thinks their pony looks better with a bobcut then it's no big deal. I consider it more a part of play than anything else.
I agree. It belongs to them and if they wanna cut it, then so be it. May suck as a collector but we seem to forget these are toys.

They are toys, but toys oughtta be taken care of even by kids. Its understandable if something is an accident, but i dislike it when kids break crap on purpose. Especially when people say, Oh its okay, you can just get another one. Uh no, its not okay. Its a waste of money as well. Consider this too, the toy some kid is destroying could have one day been a cherished memento from a person who will one day no longer be there. The angriest I got over my kid during her Syd stage was when she wrecked a barbie doll she got from  one of her deceased grandmothers.



Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: BlackCurtains on October 27, 2019, 09:01:54 PM
^ to continue this thought, the kid might grow up to regret it too. That's the whole learning actions have consequences thing. I trimmed around the eyes and mouths of some of my stuffed animals, including a long haired Pound Puppy. I wish I hadn't done that! At the time, sure, they needed to be able to see and speak, but... that's why kids have imaginations, right? I think it's also important to teach kids to respect inanimte objects. I mean, one day doll hair the next day a car wreck because "it's just stuff".

Meh. Aside from my stuffed animals, I always took great care of my toys. I didn't even like peeling the wrappers off of worn crayons and hated when my mom would do it while I was at school.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: HollowZero on October 27, 2019, 09:18:31 PM
I don't consider hair cutting to be destroying; if a kid thinks their pony looks better with a bobcut then it's no big deal. I consider it more a part of play than anything else.
I agree. It belongs to them and if they wanna cut it, then so be it. May suck as a collector but we seem to forget these are toys.

Always a problem in the collector community. I personally enjoy the more loved ponies, so I guess I'm in the minority. There's a difference between "destroyed" and a forelock trim.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: caseysealia on October 27, 2019, 09:27:07 PM
There's a difference between a trim and buzzcuts. Yes teach your kids that playing with scissors has consequences. But in the end if they want to give them a haircut then so be it. Its a toy. I enjoyed cutting my toys hair, and so did my sister. It was the most fun we had. It made them unique to us, and even more special. We gave them haircuts that matched their "personality" as we had imagined them to have when we played. I hardly think its a waste of money to give something a haircut, as its not like its a leg. I have plenty of ponies with bobs. Do I regret it as a collector? Not really, cause we had fun. That's what toys are for. Now this is personal opinion, haircuts on toys don't really bother me.
Obviously I'd teach my kids not to abuse their toys, but if they play hair stylist with them I guess whatever makes them love it more. If they aren't playing with them, then what's the point?
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on October 27, 2019, 10:27:06 PM
Yeah, a haircut isn't "breaking" or "destroying" a toy, the kid can literally keep playing with it.
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: mlp4me on October 28, 2019, 09:10:10 AM
Only one childhood pony was sacrificed to appease the haircut deity. Poor SHS Dainty (pink one close to middle). I guess the whole earring and forlock thing was too much for me. Needless to say she's now got a super long forlock...

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My answer as to why kids trim hair, they're evil.  :devious:
Title: Re: What's up with forelock trims?
Post by: Zapper on October 28, 2019, 11:29:59 AM
I never put scissors to my ponies but sometimes the forelock was just standing up like an antenna and some kids did not get what that weird alfalfa hair represented so they cut it :lol:
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