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Quote from: Al-1701 on March 12, 2017, 11:22:18 AMI think you're missing my point that these characters have been boiling down to the point they don't have those nuances anymore. They might have at first, but they have fallen by the wayside in favor of cranking up the traits that are popular.That's what gives us episodes like Filli Vanilli for Pinkie Pie. Her behavior makes no sense beyond her being the LOLRANDOM pony. She, as a person, would not do that to Fluttershy. It is the behavior of a walking gag machine with no sense of empathy (which, ironically, she supposedly learned to have just two episodes prior).And Rainbow Dash is just insufferable. You can also tell they have to dumb everything down when she is the star. Wonderbolt Academy could have been a truly character moment for her, but it would have required her to use that mass between her ears, so the lesson was dumbed down to the basic "be loyal to your friends" lesson all of her episodes teach. They had to completely sabotage the Equestria Games arc just for her to have her crisis of element episode.FiM's characters aren't deep or complicated. They're just loud. Which is fine most of the time in a slice of life comedy show. Sheldon Cooper is the same way, but that's what makes the humor in The Bang Theory work so well. Unfortunately the writers of FiM get in their own way as they too often act smarter than they really are.G1 feels like they had some good ideas for the characters provided to them, but they never had the resources and ran out of time. Friendship is Magic has been given an embarrassment resources and time, and yet can't even make Twilight becoming a princess relevant.So, I take the current show one episode at a time (I've found that's the best way anymore) and hope the next generation will get the substance to go with the style. Wonderbolts Academy was a fantastic character moment for RD and you're objectively an idiot if you think otherwise.
I think you're missing my point that these characters have been boiling down to the point they don't have those nuances anymore. They might have at first, but they have fallen by the wayside in favor of cranking up the traits that are popular.That's what gives us episodes like Filli Vanilli for Pinkie Pie. Her behavior makes no sense beyond her being the LOLRANDOM pony. She, as a person, would not do that to Fluttershy. It is the behavior of a walking gag machine with no sense of empathy (which, ironically, she supposedly learned to have just two episodes prior).And Rainbow Dash is just insufferable. You can also tell they have to dumb everything down when she is the star. Wonderbolt Academy could have been a truly character moment for her, but it would have required her to use that mass between her ears, so the lesson was dumbed down to the basic "be loyal to your friends" lesson all of her episodes teach. They had to completely sabotage the Equestria Games arc just for her to have her crisis of element episode.FiM's characters aren't deep or complicated. They're just loud. Which is fine most of the time in a slice of life comedy show. Sheldon Cooper is the same way, but that's what makes the humor in The Bang Theory work so well. Unfortunately the writers of FiM get in their own way as they too often act smarter than they really are.G1 feels like they had some good ideas for the characters provided to them, but they never had the resources and ran out of time. Friendship is Magic has been given an embarrassment resources and time, and yet can't even make Twilight becoming a princess relevant.So, I take the current show one episode at a time (I've found that's the best way anymore) and hope the next generation will get the substance to go with the style.
Quote from: banditpony on March 09, 2017, 07:47:46 PMI feel like it's better that they don't bring back old characters with personalities. Too many people would grumble that it wasn't how they would want it to be. However, I wish they'd sort of put more G1 ponies in the background, kind of like little easter eggs.I recommend the comics for that, especially the ones done by Amy Mebberson, I know the Princess Celestia Micro series issue & the Bookworm arc had several (along with other cameos, she has an entire set of Sailor Moon Ponies too)
I feel like it's better that they don't bring back old characters with personalities. Too many people would grumble that it wasn't how they would want it to be. However, I wish they'd sort of put more G1 ponies in the background, kind of like little easter eggs.
I'm sick of people repeating the "lost the rights" lie. Hasbro did not lose the rights to the names. Copyrights are essentially immortal. The trademarks have lapsed, but they could have been renewed if Hasbro so wished. However, Hasbro did not so wish.By the time Hasbro asked Faust to come on board for the show (and ONLY the show), they had a pretty good idea that they wanted to start off by repeating ponies from G3. In fact, they wanted the Core7 ponies to be carried over as main characters and it was all Faust could do to convince them that Cheerilee would be best served as a B character.That is why Faust couldn't use her original choices. The plans of the generation were already too far along.
Wonderbolts Academy was a fantastic character moment for RD and you're objectively an idiot if you think otherwise.
If you do a search you can find the original concept art but you can find a chart somebody made here: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/mlpfanart/images/d/d1/History_concept.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111008150105
The Joe fans are getting closer to being on the verge of forgotten and the Jem fans are like that long lost kid that came back, was given money and will be getting booted back out as quickly as possible.
That said, the name-stealing thing isn't new to G4. G3 Applejack or Cotton Candy, anyone?
Big Bro Salty vs baby sea pony Salty
Quote from: Carrehz on May 22, 2017, 08:08:34 AMBig Bro Salty vs baby sea pony SaltyThis one really gets me because they were sold the SAME YEAR, lol. Same with Pink Dreams--they released a flutter pony with the name and a Soft Sleepy Newborn with the name in the same year.I'm thinking about renaming my flutter Catnap, since she came with the slumber party set and has a cat symbol.
Quote from: LadyMoondancer on May 22, 2017, 10:07:20 AMQuote from: Carrehz on May 22, 2017, 08:08:34 AMBig Bro Salty vs baby sea pony SaltyThis one really gets me because they were sold the SAME YEAR, lol. Same with Pink Dreams--they released a flutter pony with the name and a Soft Sleepy Newborn with the name in the same year.I'm thinking about renaming my flutter Catnap, since she came with the slumber party set and has a cat symbol.See, Catnap would have made more sense.