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Title: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 14, 2017, 08:51:22 PM
The answer is: when Hasbro has used the mold for another of their toys.  :P

I was browsing around Google Images and I found these pictures of Hasbro "Love-a-Bye" dolls from 1990-ish, which came with white ducky pull toys, stacking rings, and princess pony hats with a pom-pom on top (as "birthday hats" I guess, lol).  The pictures were originally from an eBay auction, but the auction is too old to show up on eBay anymore.

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I also remember Hasbro having an early 90s line of plush turtles, and a couple of the turtles came with MLP accessories.  Like I think one came with a princess wand.
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Jinxxy on May 14, 2017, 09:27:42 PM
I wonder if what's happened with the other threads mystery Dance N' Prance hair clip. :)
Very sharp eye you have!
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Taffeta on May 15, 2017, 12:44:32 AM
I think I have - or have had in the past - the yellow hat in that picture. Wondered what it went to, so thanks for that!

Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Carrehz on May 15, 2017, 07:20:41 AM
Hehe, didn't they reuse one or two accessories for Jem, too? It's interesting when they do this.

Oooh and good thinking Jinxxy, that could be a good lead for the hair-clip :O I hadn't thought about that.
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Ponyfan on May 15, 2017, 07:28:15 AM
I think My Pretty Mermaids used some of the MLP comb molds.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: summerday on May 20, 2017, 07:33:24 PM
Make Me Up Darlings came with original style combs. This Topsy Turtle came with a sun pick. The ad on Ghost of the Doll shows her with a brush. I picked her up at a flea market recently.

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Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Chrissytree on May 21, 2017, 04:07:23 AM
I wonder if what's happened with the other threads mystery Dance N' Prance hair clip. :)
Very sharp eye you have!
I'm not sure about that - I was an MLP child, I rarely bought anything else and I can't think of any of my toys having hair that would use a hair grip.

Those duck toys are so cute!
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Elfpony on May 21, 2017, 05:10:40 AM
I like those white duck pulls.

I noticed recently that the newer (early 2000s) Brazil SSC dolls came with MLP flutter picks (mostly pink ones, without the flower centers painted).

Elf
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Mermaid on May 21, 2017, 02:32:18 PM
I like those white duck pulls.

I noticed recently that the newer (early 2000s) Brazil SSC dolls came with MLP flutter picks (mostly pink ones, without the flower centers painted).

Elf

Really?! Do you have pics? I wonder if hasbro still has molds to all the brushes?! That'd be so cool!
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on May 21, 2017, 02:58:42 PM
I know they had quite a few toy lines, and borrowed parts a lot.
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Elfpony on May 22, 2017, 08:08:31 AM
I like those white duck pulls.

I noticed recently that the newer (early 2000s) Brazil SSC dolls came with MLP flutter picks (mostly pink ones, without the flower centers painted).

Elf

Really?! Do you have pics? I wonder if hasbro still has molds to all the brushes?! That'd be so cool!

I don't have a picture, but if you search strawberry shortcake Brazil on eBay you would find some mib pictures.

Elf
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: ColdRuru on May 23, 2017, 02:44:06 AM
Not a surprise that such a company used her molds for anothers things. I'm sure with a great search, this kind of re-use is more common than we though ;)
Usefull to know.
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: The_Loner on May 23, 2017, 05:14:12 AM
How cool is that! Maybe that can explain otherwise unexplainable MLP accessories? I have a few accessories that have me puzzled but maybe they came with other toylines.....
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: ashlyne on May 23, 2017, 11:28:59 AM
I think these kind of pseudo-accessories should be catalogued in one place :)   

Here's the catalog image of the Love-A-Bye Babies.   Hats, duckies, stacking toys, even the bottles are like the Teeny Tiny Twins bottles.  The birthday boxes are the same shape & folding style as the box from the birthday ponywear.
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Cabbage Patch Magic Meadow Glitz'n Glamour ponies had tiaras in various colors that match the eyelash princess tiaras. There's at least a pink, purple and gold one....and I think maybe blue?
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The My Little Puppy / Kitty / Bunny Nursery Litters used the same style Teeny Tiny Twins bottles, combs & brushes, stacking toys.   They also used molds from the German Nesthakchen Babies:  crib, cradle, bathtub, bathsponge, teddy bear.
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And Sindy (aka Barbie) took a few cues from the Hasbro molds too.
Princess-style pick (not glittery)
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And also this Sindy bedtime wear set has the European kitten and bunny shaped friends from Katie and Billie MLP sets:
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I also have a clear purple flutter pony pick, but I don't have a photo handy and I'm not sure where that one came from.   
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 23, 2017, 12:17:37 PM
OMG!!  I definitely remember people coming to the board having found that bunny, wondering if it was a variant of the My Little Bunnies!  So it turns out it was Sindy!   Sindy was produced by Hasbro, so that makes sense . . . Wow, well done, another pony mystery solved.
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: ashlyne on May 23, 2017, 12:20:53 PM
OMG!!  I definitely remember people coming to the board having found that bunny, wondering if it was a variant of the My Little Bunnies!  So it turns out it was Sindy!   Sindy was produced by Hasbro, so that makes sense . . . Wow, well done, another pony mystery solved.

Gotta give credit to Sebby6, who more often than not has spotted these things to share with me  :)  I've been stashing pictures of them.
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Foxtale on May 23, 2017, 12:57:30 PM
I think these kind of pseudo-accessories should be catalogued in one place :)   

Cabbage Patch Magic Meadow Glitz'n Glamour ponies had tiaras in various colors that match the eyelash princess tiaras. There's at least a pink, purple and gold one....and I think maybe blue?
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I knew it!!! I had that box as a child growing up and recognized the tiara.

That would be great if all these and other instances were in one place.

I know that the Show Stable was re purposed for the Littlest Pet Shop! :D And one littlest petshop item was repurposed for g2 ponies.
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: ashlyne on May 23, 2017, 01:03:15 PM
I think these kind of pseudo-accessories should be catalogued in one place :)   

Cabbage Patch Magic Meadow Glitz'n Glamour ponies had tiaras in various colors that match the eyelash princess tiaras. There's at least a pink, purple and gold one....and I think maybe blue?


I knew it!!! I had that box as a child growing up and recognized the tiara.

That would be great if all these and other instances were in one place.

I know that the Show Stable was re purposed for the Littlest Pet Shop! :D And one littlest petshop item was repurposed for g2 ponies.

Pretty Parlor, repurposed for Littlest Pet Shop ;)
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Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Foxtale on May 23, 2017, 02:06:16 PM
I think these kind of pseudo-accessories should be catalogued in one place :)   

Cabbage Patch Magic Meadow Glitz'n Glamour ponies had tiaras in various colors that match the eyelash princess tiaras. There's at least a pink, purple and gold one....and I think maybe blue?


I knew it!!! I had that box as a child growing up and recognized the tiara.

That would be great if all these and other instances were in one place.

I know that the Show Stable was re purposed for the Littlest Pet Shop! :D And one littlest petshop item was repurposed for g2 ponies.

Pretty Parlor, repurposed for Littlest Pet Shop ;)
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Oooops ... That is what I meant.... I got the names confused b/c i have like 3 Show Stables I am trying to sell XD
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: scarletjul on May 23, 2017, 04:22:24 PM
l always think these sort of things are so cool.  :)

Though, it does make me wonder when I find random accessories that belong to more than one toy - who they belong to?

I think these kind of pseudo-accessories should be catalogued in one place :)   

Cabbage Patch Magic Meadow Glitz'n Glamour ponies had tiaras in various colors that match the eyelash princess tiaras. There's at least a pink, purple and gold one....and I think maybe blue?


I knew it!!! I had that box as a child growing up and recognized the tiara.

That would be great if all these and other instances were in one place.

I know that the Show Stable was re purposed for the Littlest Pet Shop! :D And one littlest petshop item was repurposed for g2 ponies.

Pretty Parlor, repurposed for Littlest Pet Shop ;)
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I actually think the scale works better here than it does for MLP, even though it was made for those originally.
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Foxtale on May 23, 2017, 07:01:56 PM
Here is another MLP vs Littlest Petshop one I always thought about.

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Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Sebby6 on May 24, 2017, 12:32:21 AM
Love this thread :)
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Carrehz on May 24, 2017, 03:47:51 AM
OMG I had no idea about the Sindy thing! So THAT'S where that mystery bunny came from!! :OO

I definitely agree, we really do need some kind of page for all these! It'd be really useful, I think! Especially in cases where the accessory in question is hard to find/expensive.

Oh yeah, I found the Jem one I mentioned earlier. The boombox that comes with Get Into The Groove (http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Get_Into_The_Groove) was reused for Danse (http://www.pranceatron.com/jem/dusdanse.html) (or the other way around, not sure which came first). Wouldn't be surprised if they reused other accessories between the lines too, but that's the first one that came to mind.

Also.. I really want those Sindy bunny pajamas!! They're so cute..
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: ashlyne on May 24, 2017, 05:22:11 AM
Oh yeah, I found the Jem one I mentioned earlier. The boombox that comes with Get Into The Groove (http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Get_Into_The_Groove) was reused for Danse (http://www.pranceatron.com/jem/dusdanse.html) (or the other way around, not sure which came first).

This one?  I always thought it was fakie, but good to know what it goes to :)   
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I have a number of fakie accessories and ponywear that are pretty much knock-offs from pony molds, but I wonder if this should just be focused just on main toy lines that reused MLP accessories.

Speaking of Jem.... Rama Llama was also offered in an MLP Canadian mail order form.
http://www.pranceatron.com/jem/dramallama.html


Let's not forget, the Charmkins "My Pony Pixie", molded like a mommy charm:
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I also looked more into that Danse link, and found this ribbon, which has the same lace pattern as the USA Sweetheart Sister ponies:

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Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Foxtale on May 24, 2017, 06:50:37 AM
Hmm what would we call a reference page like this? I feel like it needs a creative name. XD
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Chrissytree on May 24, 2017, 08:22:00 AM
I think these kind of pseudo-accessories should be catalogued in one place :)   

I'm thinking this kind of thing might fit perfectly with the website I'm making. If anyone can donate their own pictures I'd love to add a special section :) See this post here for some detail.
http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,386324.0.html (http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,386324.0.html)
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: ashlyne on May 24, 2017, 10:31:18 AM
I think these kind of pseudo-accessories should be catalogued in one place :)   

I'm thinking this kind of thing might fit perfectly with the website I'm making. If anyone can donate their own pictures I'd love to add a special section :) See this post here for some detail.
http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,386324.0.html (http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,386324.0.html)

Chrissytree, feel free to copy and use mine I've posted here  :)

Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Chrissytree on May 24, 2017, 11:13:27 AM
I think these kind of pseudo-accessories should be catalogued in one place :)   

I'm thinking this kind of thing might fit perfectly with the website I'm making. If anyone can donate their own pictures I'd love to add a special section :) See this post here for some detail.
http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,386324.0.html (http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,386324.0.html)

Chrissytree, feel free to copy and use mine I've posted here  :)


Thanks very much Ashlyne - Can you confirm which are your images?
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: ashlyne on May 24, 2017, 11:33:42 AM
Hmm what would we call a reference page like this? I feel like it needs a creative name. XD

MLP Doppelgänger Accessories     :lol:
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Carrehz on May 24, 2017, 01:58:29 PM
ashlyne - yup that's the one! :)

aaaa I'm so excited to see a page for these!! I forgot about Rama Llama, and the Charmkins pony.

Did they reuse any more of the Lil Litters animals for Sindy or was it just the kitty/bunny? :o
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: ashlyne on May 24, 2017, 02:03:04 PM
ashlyne - yup that's the one! :)

aaaa I'm so excited to see a page for these!! I forgot about Rama Llama, and the Charmkins pony.

Did they reuse any more of the Lil Litters animals for Sindy or was it just the kitty/bunny? :o

There's a puppy as well:
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And a teddy bear. Not sure if it's the same mold as the Nesthakchen bear or not. I don't think so.
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Mermaid on May 24, 2017, 02:18:47 PM
That's where those puppies, bunnies, and kitties are from!!!!!
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Carrehz on May 24, 2017, 03:58:41 PM
http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,379732.msg1550688.html

omg, I think it's the same puppy!! aaaa mystery solved at last!!!! I was sooo curious about these when there was a thread about them a few months ago (this (http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,384116.msg1613047/topicseen.html#msg1613047) one). Glad to have that solved at last!

(Too bad the cat looks to be an exact duplicate of Katie's cat :p on the other hand.. maybe not.. if it was different I'd need to track it down XD)
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: ashlyne on May 25, 2017, 05:45:58 AM
Should I update those two threads with this information?

The question of Katie's kitty had me doing some (expensive) research.  I was looking for a replacement kitty anyway, since mine had discolored to an almost red tone. There were two auctions on ebay with Katie and Kitty loose and I noticed that the kittens looked to be different shades of color. One auction was from Germany with a hot pink kitty similar to the Sindy kitty. The other auction was from the UK, with a more normal pink kitty.  I bought then, and then managed to track down MOC versions of both. 

It does appear there are two different MLP kitties, one from the UK and the other Germany.   I still need to do a side-by-side of the Sindy and German versions in the same photo, but here are some pics to get us started:

UK vs German

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UK set left, German right (ponies appear identical, btw):
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UK left, German middle, my reddish discolored kitty:
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UK MOC --- German MOC
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Comparing the loose with the MOC versions
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UK MOC & loose.  UK card seems a bit faded and bubble is slightly yellowed, but I think the kitties are from the same color stock.
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German MOC & loose
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MOC Sindy kitty comparisons
UK --- German --- Sindy
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The bad news is the Sindy kitty is dead-ringer for the German one. So it may not be possible to tell those loose ones apart.



Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Carrehz on May 25, 2017, 06:04:37 AM
Oooh, thanks for the comparison pics, ashlyne!! I had no idea there were variants of Kitty :O.
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: HoustonCollector72 on May 26, 2017, 11:30:33 AM
Here is another MLP vs Littlest Petshop one I always thought about.

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Lol too cool , Hasbro reused or redesigned playsets from companies they bought out, like this Kenner company , G2 ponies were Kenner designed and came under the 2 brands for the first year , Then under Hasbro solely , Hasbro also bought out Galoob , they made My kissing Dragon toys and the dragons had a cool castle :) and then that castle got added some arc /balcony/turrets to make the tower higher /stairs , LOL and voila G2 Royal Castle  :) 

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Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Chrissytree on May 27, 2017, 01:34:55 PM
Should I update those two threads with this information?

The question of Katie's kitty had me doing some (expensive) research.  I was looking for a replacement kitty anyway, since mine had discolored to an almost red tone. There were two auctions on ebay with Katie and Kitty loose and I noticed that the kittens looked to be different shades of color. One auction was from Germany with a hot pink kitty similar to the Sindy kitty. The other auction was from the UK, with a more normal pink kitty.  I bought then, and then managed to track down MOC versions of both. 

It does appear there are two different MLP kitties, one from the UK and the other Germany.   I still need to do a side-by-side of the Sindy and German versions in the same photo, but here are some pics to get us started:

UK vs German

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UK left, German middle, my reddish discolored kitty:
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UK MOC --- German MOC
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Comparing the loose with the MOC versions
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German MOC & loose
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MOC Sindy kitty comparisons
UK --- German --- Sindy
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The bad news is the Sindy kitty is dead-ringer for the German one. So it may not be possible to tell those loose ones apart.


I just realised - I got my Kitty from the UK comic as a free gift. She seems darker - How does she compare?
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Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: The_Loner on May 28, 2017, 05:48:52 AM
These are all so great! I especially like the Littlest Pet Shop salon and the Kissing Dragon castle!

Can anyone explain these? These are all pictures I have found in catalogues, I only own the MLP counterparts.

First up this house that is the same as the My Little Pony House
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Also the accessories on the nightstand in the bottom left corner are the same as those that came with the MLP House.

Next the yellow accessories in this set are identical with some of the accessories that came with Precious
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And last this speed boat marketed for boys is the same as the MLP Sailing Boat
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I don't know what company is behind these toys or if it's different companies. Does anyone know anything about these? Are they made by Hasbro or did Hasbro use stuff designed by another party?
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: Foxtale on May 28, 2017, 01:12:41 PM
Lol too cool , Hasbro reused or redesigned playsets from companies they bought out, like this Kenner company , G2 ponies were Kenner designed and came under the 2 brands for the first year , Then under Hasbro solely , Hasbro also bought out Galoob , they made My kissing Dragon toys and the dragons had a cool castle :) and then that castle got added some arc /balcony/turrets to make the tower higher /stairs , LOL and voila G2 Royal Castle  :) 

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OMG!!! I had an ad with that castle in it... no wonder the G2 castle looked so familiar!!!

The_Loner- I don't know much about all those baby toys but I would have to assume that Hasbro purchased the company that made them at some point during the acquisition phase.
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: HoustonCollector72 on May 28, 2017, 08:32:33 PM
These are all so great! I especially like the Littlest Pet Shop salon and the Kissing Dragon castle!

Can anyone explain these? These are all pictures I have found in catalogues, I only own the MLP counterparts.

First up this house that is the same as the My Little Pony House
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Also the accessories on the nightstand in the bottom left corner are the same as those that came with the MLP House.

Next the yellow accessories in this set are identical with some of the accessories that came with Precious
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And last this speed boat marketed for boys is the same as the MLP Sailing Boat
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I don't know what company is behind these toys or if it's different companies. Does anyone know anything about these? Are they made by Hasbro or did Hasbro use stuff designed by another party?
Wow this is just to cool to see :) all those became g2 play sets , amazing :) those toys do get revamped big time :)
the G2 Mansion revamped is wow  :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: princessluna11706 on May 29, 2017, 10:03:10 PM
OMG!!  I definitely remember people coming to the board having found that bunny, wondering if it was a variant of the My Little Bunnies!  So it turns out it was Sindy!   Sindy was produced by Hasbro, so that makes sense . . . Wow, well done, another pony mystery solved.

I remember this too!  I'm glad that mystery is solved, I know I was curious!
Now I want that Sindy doll with the bunny PJs..

Title: Re: When is a pony accessory not a pony accessory?
Post by: ashlyne on May 30, 2017, 05:30:24 AM
 :shocked:

I just realised - I got my Kitty from the UK comic as a free gift. She seems darker - How does she compare?
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 :shocked:   Another kitty release?!    This is just bananas   :banana:

Is the photo above a scan?   It appears to be similar to the German and Sindy releases I have.  Here's a version with flash and I get that same bright color as yours above:
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One thing I hadn't considered is the texture or plastic the Sindy cat is made of.  I'm wondering if it's the same squishiness as the other cats, or if it's a harder, cheaper plastic. My guess is that since it's so similar to the German/UK comic release, it's probably from the same factory batch.
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