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Yes, I agree. For example, ponies that are called "non-so-soft", but to me I never even knew of the existence of so-soft ponies until as an adult I found this and other sites. So to me, my childhood Posey is not "non-so-soft", she is the only way I knew a Posey could be!!I like the idea of "International" being used to describe ponies that were sold everywhere.Jules x
Well, ultimately it's always going to be subjective. If someone grew up in Brazil and owned yellow, rainbow-haired Heart Throb and Baby-Gusty-Without-a-Horn, wouldn't they consider those ponies mainstream? What would make them "not mainstream" compared to other ponies that had a limited market release? I don't think any of us are surprised when Baby Gusty is left off 'who's your favorite baby earth pony' polls. But that doesn't mean that anyone here doubts the legitimacy of earth pony Baby Gusty as a MLP. It's just daunting to list every pony (and polls are supposed to be fun, not research projects), so people list the ones they are familiar with which usually happen to be the US ponies due to the US being the largest market for MLPs in the 80s.
Well, personally I think the "nirvana" label is silly and I don't use it. No offense to those who do, but to me it makes no sense at all. Some of the "nirvanas" are common (Italian Peachy), some are rare. So rarity alone is not a determining factor. Raindrop and Nightlight were made in Hong Kong (or China, can't remember) and are supposedly still nirvanas because they were only released in a few countries. But none of the US-exclusive Hong Kong / China ponies like Hollywood are considered nirvanas, because . . . ? Then the Thailand Fancy Pants Babies are NOT counted as nirvanas, but the Thailand Mountain Boys are--because one is common and the other isn't? But Italian Peachy is common too, lol. Yeah, I will never call any of my ponies 'nirvanas.'
Taffeta, calm down already. It's a fun poll, it's really not as big a deal as you're making it out to be. I understand UK ponies are important to you and that's fine, but instead of kicking up a fuss every time one is left out of a poll, maybe just make a poll yourself including the UK ponies?
Wow, you really explained this issue well Taffeta. I agree, the U.K. ponies should be represented and not classified as nirvana. To me, the term nirvana means a pony not manufactured and designed by Hasbro but still licensed and real. The fact that we are excluding the UK ponies from the tittle of mainstream isn't ok. If you had UK ponies in your childhood, I think you would want them to be represented as mainstream and would be bothered by the fact that they aren't exactly considered that way. I think the ways to help this issue would be to use terms other than NSS, NBBE, etc and to change our mindsets. I feel like people aren't really taking this seriously. There is an issue a member is trying to talk about because it's bothering them, and we should listen.