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Title: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 25, 2019, 08:01:21 AM
Um.
Serious spoiler in the spoiler tag below.
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Sauce (https://www.videoland.com/series/719/my-little-pony/2913). It is a subscription site so I'm waiting for a rip but WOW I really thought they were going to try to keep a tighter lid on everything with it being the final season.
Of course, it is possible that the site used some fanart, but considering the rest of the thumbnails in the link, that would come off as strange to me.
EDIT: More screenshots are coming up onto sites such as some pony image site.
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Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: PinkieLopBun on August 25, 2019, 08:03:50 AM
Of course, it is possible that the site used some fanart, but considering the rest of the thumbnails in the link, that would come off as strange to me.
I did a Google image search and got no results, so I'm pretty sure it's legit.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 25, 2019, 09:16:30 AM
Ohh yep it's legit. Screenshots coming in.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 25, 2019, 09:24:19 AM
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do...pinkie...and cheese...have a...child?
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 25, 2019, 09:42:51 AM
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do...pinkie...and cheese...have a...child?
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It looks like it? She looks more like a FlutterPie baby but I know they're too cowardly to ship among the mane6.
There's also supposed to be something something DiscoShy
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Sora on August 25, 2019, 09:53:55 AM
Two rumours I've heard so far:
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Bonbon and Lyra get married
Discord dies

I'll probably watch it as soon as I can, just because :P
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: TJgamer on August 25, 2019, 10:04:04 AM
I've also heard that more episodes will be airing this week in Australia.
https://www.yourtv.com.au/program/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic/274285/
I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 25, 2019, 10:09:44 AM
Two rumours I've heard so far:
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Bonbon and Lyra get married
Discord dies

I'll probably watch it as soon as I can, just because :P
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Half right ain't bad!
I just watched it. I didn't understand a lot (it's...in Dutch lol) but I got the general gist of it. It's cute, I'm not upset with it. I think it's a sweet ending.
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I'm not even mad with the Discoshy. Rarity looks really nice with her stripe of grey and I liked seeing everyone grown up. But wow, Ponyville's population sure is aging huh.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 25, 2019, 10:26:05 AM
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I wouldn't like shipping among the mane six...they seem too sisterly to me..but oh boi i ship cheesepie/and discoshy
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do...pinkie...and cheese...have a...child?
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It looks like it? She looks more like a FlutterPie baby but I know they're too cowardly to ship among the mane6.
There's also supposed to be something something DiscoShy
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Sora on August 25, 2019, 10:36:13 AM
Two rumours I've heard so far:
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Bonbon and Lyra get married
Discord dies

I'll probably watch it as soon as I can, just because :P
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Half right ain't bad!
I just watched it. I didn't understand a lot (it's...in Dutch lol) but I got the general gist of it. It's cute, I'm not upset with it. I think it's a sweet ending.
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I'm not even mad with the Discoshy. Rarity looks really nice with her stripe of grey and I liked seeing everyone grown up. But wow, Ponyville's population sure is aging huh.
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...Discoshy? That's pretty much the only ship I moderately care about in this show XD Any screengrabs?
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lilja on August 25, 2019, 10:37:59 AM
Two rumours I've heard so far:
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Bonbon and Lyra get married
Discord dies

I feel like this would be the best of all possible worlds! :biggrin:
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 25, 2019, 10:43:15 AM
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I'd like to see Starburst and Soarindash become canon as well but I honestly doubt it. A girl can dream tho right?  :P anyway I haven't watched this show in years but I will for sure be watching these. It'll be good to see what happens after, especially as we get closer to g5.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 25, 2019, 10:52:18 AM
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Not a whole lot of interaction but the implication is there. She also uses his chaos portals a lot in her little animal sanctuary.
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I'd like to see Starburst and Soarindash become canon as well but I honestly doubt it. A girl can dream tho right?  :P anyway I haven't watched this show in years but I will for sure be watching these. It'll be good to see what happens after, especially as we get closer to g5.
Well, you get one of those sort of.
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Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 25, 2019, 10:56:06 AM
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this is everything that happens:
Big Mac and Sugar Belle run Sweet Apple Acres and have a child.

Pinkie Pie and Cheese Sandwich have a child and boy is she a cutie.

Trixie cleans up and becomes a very professional Counselor.

 

The biggest of all:

 

Starlight Glimmer and Sunburst have a daughter who becomes Twilight's student as she follows in her footsteps about the magic of friendship.

 

Fluttershy and Discord are in a romantic relationship and he is seen giving her lunch before going to work with the Mane 6 as they teach Starlight's daughter.  They both run the animal sanctuary together as Discord opens dimensional rifts the animals gallop through.

 

It is implied that Sunset Shimmer had returned to Equestria.  Tempest and Capper are seen at the coronation reception.

 

 

 

 

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Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 25, 2019, 10:59:50 AM
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OHH that makes so much more sense now. That that's her student-ok cool yeah.
Wow StarTrix is dead. Sad.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 25, 2019, 11:04:03 AM
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but at least Trixie has a good role and wasn't just cast aside
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OHH that makes so much more sense now. That that's her student-ok cool yeah.
Wow StarTrix is dead. Sad.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Sora on August 25, 2019, 11:21:50 AM
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Not a whole lot of interaction but the implication is there. She also uses his chaos portals a lot in her little animal sanctuary.
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I'd like to see Starburst and Soarindash become canon as well but I honestly doubt it. A girl can dream tho right?  :P anyway I haven't watched this show in years but I will for sure be watching these. It'll be good to see what happens after, especially as we get closer to g5.
Well, you get one of those sort of.
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Thank you! That's still pretty cute.

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this is everything that happens:
Big Mac and Sugar Belle run Sweet Apple Acres and have a child.

Pinkie Pie and Cheese Sandwich have a child and boy is she a cutie.

Trixie cleans up and becomes a very professional Counselor.

 

The biggest of all:

 

Starlight Glimmer and Sunburst have a daughter who becomes Twilight's student as she follows in her footsteps about the magic of friendship.

 

Fluttershy and Discord are in a romantic relationship and he is seen giving her lunch before going to work with the Mane 6 as they teach Starlight's daughter.  They both run the animal sanctuary together as Discord opens dimensional rifts the animals gallop through.

 

It is implied that Sunset Shimmer had returned to Equestria.  Tempest and Capper are seen at the coronation reception.

 

 

 

 

 Quoted by a user on mlp forums.
I have no issue with any of that, which is nice for a change.
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I'm taking it that Trixie and Rainbow Dash don't hitch up with anyone? If so, definitely happy, since they usually have every single character paired up and it feels so forced.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 25, 2019, 12:46:46 PM
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well, it wasn't shown at least. Rarity, twilight and applejack don't either tho, right?
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Not a whole lot of interaction but the implication is there. She also uses his chaos portals a lot in her little animal sanctuary.
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I'd like to see Starburst and Soarindash become canon as well but I honestly doubt it. A girl can dream tho right?  :P anyway I haven't watched this show in years but I will for sure be watching these. It'll be good to see what happens after, especially as we get closer to g5.
Well, you get one of those sort of.
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Thank you! That's still pretty cute.

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this is everything that happens:
Big Mac and Sugar Belle run Sweet Apple Acres and have a child.

Pinkie Pie and Cheese Sandwich have a child and boy is she a cutie.

Trixie cleans up and becomes a very professional Counselor.

 

The biggest of all:

 

Starlight Glimmer and Sunburst have a daughter who becomes Twilight's student as she follows in her footsteps about the magic of friendship.

 

Fluttershy and Discord are in a romantic relationship and he is seen giving her lunch before going to work with the Mane 6 as they teach Starlight's daughter.  They both run the animal sanctuary together as Discord opens dimensional rifts the animals gallop through.

 

It is implied that Sunset Shimmer had returned to Equestria.  Tempest and Capper are seen at the coronation reception.

 

 

 

 

 Quoted by a user on mlp forums.
I have no issue with any of that, which is nice for a change.
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I'm taking it that Trixie and Rainbow Dash don't hitch up with anyone? If so, definitely happy, since they usually have every single character paired up and it feels so forced.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Carrehz on August 25, 2019, 12:49:51 PM
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Awww, those kids are CUTE! Does anyone have a screenshot of the Big Mac/Sugar Belle kid? I'm neutral to the pairing but I like seeing nextgens :B

Also wow Starlight/Sunburst's daughter is gorgeous. I want a toy of her!!

It does suck that the finale's been leaked though. :( Obviously this one doesn't affect me personally (don't watch the show, just like reading the threads sometimes), but it's always disappointing when big stuff gets out before the intended release date... I hate how cartoon leaks are so common now.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: SpacePinto on August 25, 2019, 12:53:28 PM
I'm just glad that it's finally ending.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 25, 2019, 01:00:39 PM
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OMG Spike looks R I D I C U L O U S I am wheezing XD

This is so Harry Potter with everyone dating everyone and having kids. Fluttershy/Discord makes me break out in hives. It's like dating an ugly old djinn. Poor her. I hate this.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Magicharp on August 25, 2019, 01:24:58 PM
Any idea of when the finale will air in the US?
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on August 25, 2019, 01:26:10 PM
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Gotta say, I felt that the "ending of the end" episodes felt... rushed? It felt like they wanted to tell a longer story but had to squeeze it into two 21-minute episodes. Of course this is coming from the perspective of someone who had no idea what they were saying the whole time due to the Dutch audio.

I did like the ending of the last episode though, the song, even if I couldn't understand it, made me feel a bit emotional. Even though I felt that the show should have ended a long time ago, a part of me is still sad to see it go.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 25, 2019, 01:33:40 PM
For Sora,
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Not a whole lot of interaction but the implication is there. She also uses his chaos portals a lot in her little animal sanctuary.
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I'd like to see Starburst and Soarindash become canon as well but I honestly doubt it. A girl can dream tho right?  :P anyway I haven't watched this show in years but I will for sure be watching these. It'll be good to see what happens after, especially as we get closer to g5.
Well, you get one of those sort of.
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Aren't they siblings?
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Pinkie21 on August 25, 2019, 01:46:43 PM
I'm just glad that it's finally ending.
Ugh, me too.  Maybe we’ll get a better fandom with the next generation.  Anyway, I haven’t seen the episode but my thoughts on the images I’ve seen:

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oh I’m thrilled at what happens to Cozy.  It’s going to make so many people mad and I’m here with my popcorn totally ready for this.  She deserved exactly what happens to her, and I don’t give a single darn about her age. 

Baby Cheesy-Pie is the absolute cutest! 

Oh my goodness Scootaloo’s still got those baby wings even as an adult?  I feel so terrible for her.  She’s failed as a Pegasus, the poor girl. 

Big Boi Spike is...uhhhh...  interesting?  Do he and Rarity get together when he gets older?  I honestly kinda hope so. 

Lyra and Sweetie Drops.  Ohhhh man they confirmed it!  That makes me so very happy!

DiscoShy is a thing and I’m thrilled!

Starlight doesn’t end up with Trixie?  This isn’t the news I wanted to hear.  Of course, they had to make her end up with Sunburst because they needed a kid to carry on the student tradition.  But man, the one ship I shipped didn’t ship in the end. 

Do they imply Granny Smith is gone?  Older AJ has a shawl, and Big Mac and Sugarbelle run Sweet Apple Acres.  So...is Granny out of the picture now?  That’s honestly depressing.

I can’t wait to see these episodes play out! 
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 25, 2019, 02:07:38 PM
About Granny Smith...

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She is just straight up dead. I hated it.
Of course it makes sense but... damn. Don't show a happy "Apple Family" image and exclude Granny, you monsters! Ngl, I cried a manly tear at this.

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Not a whole lot of interaction but the implication is there. She also uses his chaos portals a lot in her little animal sanctuary.
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I'd like to see Starburst and Soarindash become canon as well but I honestly doubt it. A girl can dream tho right?  :P anyway I haven't watched this show in years but I will for sure be watching these. It'll be good to see what happens after, especially as we get closer to g5.
Well, you get one of those sort of.
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Aren't they siblings?

This is killing me XD
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 25, 2019, 02:36:32 PM

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For Sora,
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Not a whole lot of interaction but the implication is there. She also uses his chaos portals a lot in her little animal sanctuary.
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I'd like to see Starburst and Soarindash become canon as well but I honestly doubt it. A girl can dream tho right?  :P anyway I haven't watched this show in years but I will for sure be watching these. It'll be good to see what happens after, especially as we get closer to g5.
Well, you get one of those sort of.
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Aren't they siblings?
Nope! Childhood friends

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quite frankly, trixie was a mess. she needed to clean up her act, even as a friend not only to starlight but everyone else. she's always been a loner. its good to see her get a good role as she did. i'm actually pretty happy about starburst! their daughter is pretty. hope they do a toy of her, if these characters are in g5
I'm just glad that it's finally ending.
Ugh, me too.  Maybe we’ll get a better fandom with the next generation.  Anyway, I haven’t seen the episode but my thoughts on the images I’ve seen:

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oh I’m thrilled at what happens to Cozy.  It’s going to make so many people mad and I’m here with my popcorn totally ready for this.  She deserved exactly what happens to her, and I don’t give a single darn about her age. 

Baby Cheesy-Pie is the absolute cutest! 

Oh my goodness Scootaloo’s still got those baby wings even as an adult?  I feel so terrible for her.  She’s failed as a Pegasus, the poor girl. 

Big Boi Spike is...uhhhh...  interesting?  Do he and Rarity get together when he gets older?  I honestly kinda hope so. 

Lyra and Sweetie Drops.  Ohhhh man they confirmed it!  That makes me so very happy!

DiscoShy is a thing and I’m thrilled!

Starlight doesn’t end up with Trixie?  This isn’t the news I wanted to hear.  Of course, they had to make her end up with Sunburst because they needed a kid to carry on the student tradition.  But man, the one ship I shipped didn’t ship in the end. 

Do they imply Granny Smith is gone?  Older AJ has a shawl, and Big Mac and Sugarbelle run Sweet Apple Acres.  So...is Granny out of the picture now?  That’s honestly depressing.

I can’t wait to see these episodes play out! 
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 25, 2019, 02:52:39 PM
Anyway, I haven’t seen the episode but my thoughts on the images I’ve seen:

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oh I’m thrilled at what happens to Cozy.  It’s going to make so many people mad and I’m here with my popcorn totally ready for this.  She deserved exactly what happens to her, and I don’t give a single darn about her age. 

Nah, because they gave a much better reason this time for Cozy's punishment:

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She turns into a huge giga alicorn thingie with quasi-demonic powers.

Also, you bet Twilight becomes soft like Celestia one day and tasks Luster Dawn with freeing them all like Celestia did with Twilight and Discord's stone form :lol:
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 25, 2019, 03:06:40 PM
Can't wait to not see a toy for any of the new characters introduced!! Mm mm mm deeeelicious.
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Gallus as a guard kicks butt though. I love that.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 25, 2019, 03:53:00 PM
You know what really gets me
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with that time skip and all?

They didn't show older Flurry Heart. I would have wanted to see her as a young alicorn princess and see what's happening to her, if she would become her aunt's student or take over her mother's queendom.
But we didn't see any of the Miamore-Armors XD

Like yeah, they are only Twilight's family the writers build up as very important for multiple seasons. Who cares, the show's over. They are probably dead like Granny Smith. Died in a crystal carriage crash.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: PinkieLopBun on August 25, 2019, 04:12:01 PM
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Awww, those kids are CUTE! Does anyone have a screenshot of the Big Mac/Sugar Belle kid? I'm neutral to the pairing but I like seeing nextgens :B

Also wow Starlight/Sunburst's daughter is gorgeous. I want a toy of her!!

It does suck that the finale's been leaked though. :( Obviously this one doesn't affect me personally (don't watch the show, just like reading the threads sometimes), but it's always disappointing when big stuff gets out before the intended release date... I hate how cartoon leaks are so common now.
These episodes are actually on an official streaming service in The Netherlands, so I wouldn’t categorize this as a leak.

Any idea of when the finale will air in the US?
No dates are confirmed, but if Discovery Family doesn’t stop until all the episodes have aired, then it will be in October.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Pinkie21 on August 25, 2019, 04:36:15 PM
Oh man...
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Granny Smith’s actually passed away?  Was it blatantly mentioned in the episode, or was it one of those things where she’s just not shown with the other Apples.  Either way, that’s super-sad.  I’m curious if they made any mention of the Apple Pear-ents (ha...get it?  I’ll show myself out...)  Anyway,man that hurts.  Granny was a boss and straight-up the heart of the Apple family.  That actually hurts to hear this news.

Also, are Worst Character and Sandbar actually a thing?  I saw a shot of them together, and since they went to that dance together and blushed at each other, it seemed there was some crushing going on.  Are they actually, like, together in the end?  Because that would be super-awkward and weird.

I’m still ridiculously mad Scoots wasn’t given real wings.  Come on, guys!  Give the poor girl a break. 

Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Ragamuffin on August 25, 2019, 04:42:27 PM
Haven't seen it yet and refuse to look at images so I can't comment on it yet, but can I just say how courteous everyone is, marking everything as spoilers? :P
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 25, 2019, 05:21:58 PM
Oh man...
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Granny Smith’s actually passed away?  Was it blatantly mentioned in the episode, or was it one of those things where she’s just not shown with the other Apples.  Either way, that’s super-sad.  I’m curious if they made any mention of the Apple Pear-ents (ha...get it?  I’ll show myself out...)  Anyway,man that hurts.  Granny was a boss and straight-up the heart of the Apple family.  That actually hurts to hear this news.

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She just isn't there anymore.
In the end there is a song-over montage where we see AJ going back to Big Mac and his wife and kid at Sweet Apple Acres and Granny is missing.

Also, I am kinda sad they made Twilight a Celestia type. Her friends that are so dear to her will become old and die and she will just stick around forever and make sure other ponies are friends with each other. What a terrible future :P
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Pinkie21 on August 25, 2019, 05:55:01 PM
Oh man...
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Granny Smith’s actually passed away?  Was it blatantly mentioned in the episode, or was it one of those things where she’s just not shown with the other Apples.  Either way, that’s super-sad.  I’m curious if they made any mention of the Apple Pear-ents (ha...get it?  I’ll show myself out...)  Anyway,man that hurts.  Granny was a boss and straight-up the heart of the Apple family.  That actually hurts to hear this news.

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She just isn't there anymore.
In the end there is a song-over montage where we see AJ going back to Big Mac and his wife and kid at Sweet Apple Acres and Granny is missing.

Also, I am kinda sad they made Twilight a Celestia type. Her friends that are so dear to her will become old and die and she will just stick around forever and make sure other ponies are friends with each other. What a terrible future :P

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Well that hurts.  And it took me forever to notice she was wearing GS’s shawl, as well as Applebloom wearing Goldie’s.  I don’t think I’m ready to see that scene.

Yeah, that is kinda weird that Twilight is aging differently than her friends.  Didn’t someone on the show say Twilight won’t outlive them, though?  I may be remembering incorrectly.  Anyway, I was expecting more a Cadance-type appearance for her, but she just went full Celestia.  Didn’t she? 

Oh and can I just mention how awesome Gallus looks as a member of the Royal Guard?  Just thought I’d throw that in LOL. 
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Al-1701 on August 25, 2019, 06:42:17 PM
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Well, this epilogue feels...odd for this show.  And of course their inability to mention death makes some things ring hollow.  I mean, they can't even have a picture of Granny Smith?

And the families make me think of the epilogue to Digimon Adventure 02.  I guess the couples make sense, but it seems pointless to introduce us to the next generation when we know they're just going to do the same characters in the next incarnation.

And boo for Scootaloo have undeveloped wings for life.  I thought it was a stupid idea then, and I still do.

It seems like this show will die as it lived, just so much potential executed in the safest and blandest manner possible.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: MoonShadow on August 25, 2019, 07:29:32 PM
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Wait... Was Grogar seriously a big waste of time??   I was really hoping for Tambelon part two!

Twilight as lone ruler irks me a bit.  I was hoping the rest of the six would become "princesses" as well.   I feel like each character is equally deserving.  They all have some really big flaws (and never learn from their mistakes) and truly need each other to make well-rounded rulers.  :P

Guess I shouldn't complain.  I only watched the season opener and bits of the episodes that leaked today (in another language).  lol! 
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on August 25, 2019, 07:32:57 PM
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I see people assuming that that one pony is Starlight/Sunburst's daughter, but afaik it's never stated/implied.

  • She's way older than Pinkie's, or even Big Mac/Sugar Belle's kids.
  • She sees Starlight & Sunburst when she's shown around the school (seemingly for the first time), and they don't seem to acknowledge each other as parents/child, at least the way that the other kids did.
  • Looking at a sub that someone did, it appears that she doesn't care about friendship/making friends, thinks it's a waste of time, and wants to quit the school because of it. That'd be weird coming from Starlight's daughter.
  • There's no romantic implication between Starlight and Sunburst, at least in these last 3 episodes (did they hint at it earlier? I haven't kept up with the show).

She certainly looks like their daughter and bears a striking resemblance to them, but she may just be a random student of Twilight's.

Guess we'll have to wait for the English release.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lady Frostbite on August 25, 2019, 07:59:33 PM
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Can someone screencap adult Scootaloo? I'm curious about her wings now.

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Man ... The Twilight and Spike screencaps look like traced fanart  :lol: Fluttercord, ick. At least some ccharacters don't end up with partners and kids. I never got into FiM despite trying, and not liking Twilight was one reason. Alicorn Twilight is just ... ugh. Can't wait for Equestria to crash and burn under her.

EDIT2: So, seen a gif of Celestia and Luna combining their crowns, AFTER a gif of Twilight tripping and falling on her head. This is supposed to be a cute and 'oh, she is still an everygirl!' moment I'm sure. It's not reassuring. Princess Luna, you've been on the moon for 1,000 years, you're really going to give up the corwn so easily? After receiving zero support from Celestia about your duties? Yeesh.

Twilight's parents are not shown? Well, they've done their job and bred two uberkind, and instilled in them a neurotic and destructive thirst for competition about knowledge, so fair's fair.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 25, 2019, 09:07:11 PM
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well, dutch fans were saying it is. its at least sunburst's, as she has his mark. and it was announced that starlight would end up with someone, so it appears to be theirs.
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I see people assuming that that one pony is Starlight/Sunburst's daughter, but afaik it's never stated/implied.

  • She's way older than Pinkie's, or even Big Mac/Sugar Belle's kids.
  • She sees Starlight & Sunburst when she's shown around the school (seemingly for the first time), and they don't seem to acknowledge each other as parents/child, at least the way that the other kids did.
  • Looking at a sub that someone did, it appears that she doesn't care about friendship/making friends, thinks it's a waste of time, and wants to quit the school because of it. That'd be weird coming from Starlight's daughter.
  • There's no romantic implication between Starlight and Sunburst, at least in these last 3 episodes (did they hint at it earlier? I haven't kept up with the show).

She certainly looks like their daughter and bears a striking resemblance to them, but she may just be a random student of Twilight's.

Guess we'll have to wait for the English release.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on August 25, 2019, 09:30:22 PM
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its at least sunburst's, as she has his mark.

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Oh wow, how did I not notice that.

I still find it odd that she's so much older than the other kids, though. Especially Big Mac/Sweetie Belle's.

I'm also curious on just how much time's passed in that time-skip. 20-ish years?
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 25, 2019, 09:48:30 PM
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i figure starlight to be a decent bit older than the mane six... so maybe they had her right after the final battle?  maybe she isn't that much older than pinkie's child, it seems based off episode 17 that they go from kids to adults quick lol. so yeah my guess is they had her right after. its 15-ish years later maybe? based off the other kids' ages? 
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its at least sunburst's, as she has his mark.

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Oh wow, how did I not notice that.

I still find it odd that she's so much older than the other kids, though. Especially Big Mac/Sweetie Belle's.

I'm also curious on just how much time's passed in that time-skip. 20-ish years?
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Ragamuffin on August 25, 2019, 10:10:55 PM
Okay, okay, I watched it. It was cute! What a sweet ending.

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You know what really gets me
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with that time skip and all?

They didn't show older Flurry Heart. I would have wanted to see her as a young alicorn princess and see what's happening to her, if she would become her aunt's student or take over her mother's queendom.
But we didn't see any of the Miamore-Armors XD
Adult Flurry Heart was shown in the stained glass in Twilight's castle! She had blue heart-shaped jewelry and everything. Don't feel like pulling the episode back up to screencap it but yep, she was there. :P

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I DO have Sugar Belle and Big Mac's kid on hand, though, for whoever asked:

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Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: TJgamer on August 25, 2019, 10:29:37 PM
I have watched the rest of the episodes, thus I have now fully watched all of FiM.
...Yaaay.  :lookround:
For real, I need to take a breather. I think I overdosed on pony today.  :|
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The epilogue was so schmaltzy and sappy...but I loved it.  :biggrin:  A show like this kinda deserves a super happy ending.
Though I do need to see it in English (anyone got subs?) because I wasn't entirely sure what Twilight and her friends were crying about. I'm guessing they will rarely get to see her anymore? I guess they all now rule Equestria in their respective domains?
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on August 25, 2019, 10:36:32 PM
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The epilogue was so schmaltzy and sappy...but I loved it.  :biggrin:  A show like this kinda deserves a super happy ending.
Though I do need to see it in English (anyone got subs?) because I wasn't entirely sure what Twilight and her friends were crying about. I'm guessing they will rarely get to see her anymore? I guess they all now rule Equestria in their respective domains?

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For subs, this is about all I could find: https://pastebin.com/yW0ECJEm

Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 26, 2019, 02:44:39 AM
Okay, okay, I watched it. It was cute! What a sweet ending.

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You know what really gets me
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with that time skip and all?

They didn't show older Flurry Heart. I would have wanted to see her as a young alicorn princess and see what's happening to her, if she would become her aunt's student or take over her mother's queendom.
But we didn't see any of the Miamore-Armors XD
Adult Flurry Heart was shown in the stained glass in Twilight's castle! She had blue heart-shaped jewelry and everything. Don't feel like pulling the episode back up to screencap it but yep, she was there. :P

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And what does that imply? That Cadance retired, too? See, I want to see these things animated and explained, not a brief glimpse at a window where I have to piece things together and make up half a headcanon to understand why Flurry isn't Twilight's Luna like I always assumed she'd become due to her unique status as a never-before-seen naturally born alicorn with incredible powers :lol:

I really did not need a time skip to have confirmation that Pinkie has three kids with a guy she only met twice or that Spike gets to look like Arnold Schwarzendraggon, but a time skip to see what Flurry is up to and hearing her speak to her aunt and all? That would have been great.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Carrehz on August 26, 2019, 06:56:51 AM
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I heard LyraBon was confirmed? Is that true?

Ty for the pic of the Sugar/Mac kid. Cute!

I wanted to see an adult Flurry Heart, too. I like her design! It would've been nice to see it.. not as a weird pony-baby thing. :P

Forgot to say this before, but ugh, Spike. And I thought G4 Spike couldn't get any uglier :silly:

These episodes are actually on an official streaming service in The Netherlands, so I wouldn’t categorize this as a leak.

Well, you get what I mean. It aired overseas prior to its intended US airdate. Call it whatever you want.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lady Frostbite on August 26, 2019, 07:11:05 AM
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Everyone is old, Spike looks like he has mumps, and Twilight IS Better Than Everyone Else, Deal With It apparently. It's like a mega-celeb saying that she is still cool to hang with her backwater pleb friends.

The implications set with Pinkie Pie having a child is sending some bronies into a tizzy and it is hilarious.

Also, I am game for fics that have Twilight turn into Tyrantlight, especially since Sunset Shimmer is still supposed to be around and someone has to tell her that Twilight has Acended permenantly.

Speaking of which ... where do alicorns retire to? Wonder if Twilight has to raise the sun and moon now. That'll be hilarious.

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I totally trust this blueblood to rule Equestria. Totally.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: lonewolf on August 26, 2019, 07:24:55 AM
Haven't watched it (will wait for the English version), though I've seen a few screenshots. One thing I'm happy about is:
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Seeing Tempest and Sunset in that one scene where they show all of the characters. Finally puts the last nail in the coffin about EqG and the movie not being canon to the show. And puts all of "those fans" who constantly deny they are in their place.

Speaking of "those fans": Jim Miller and all of the other show staff have locked down their Twitter accounts due to the amount of hate and death threats they've been getting as a result of the finale. It makes me absolutely sick (some may have been trolls just trying to aggravate the situation, but most are legit fans).

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I don't really like Twilight's new look though. She looked better as a regular pony alicorn.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lady Frostbite on August 26, 2019, 07:36:11 AM
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Speaking of "those fans": Jim Miller and all of the other show staff have locked down their Twitter accounts due to the amount of hate and death threats they've been getting as a result of the finale. It makes me absolutely sick (some may have been trolls just trying to aggravate the situation, but most are legit fans).

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Yeesh. It doesn't surprise me, I watched the Twilicorn drama unfold, The Cadence drama was a minor blip, as was the Flurry Heart one, and of course Equestria Girls. Though, the latter was made worse with Lauren Faust chimed in, which made me irritated at her; this is a TOY series, it's not your original IP, and you get mad at a TOY company who makes TOYS wanting to push TOY products?? No wonder she has a rep of being difficult to work with and always quitting things due to 'creative differences'.

Plus, well, I'm one of the salty at the GOT ending, but I sent a letter of support to Emilia Clarke and tweeted my support of Nathalie Emmanuel (Missandei) before she basically bit fans who were unhappy. I didn't go to D&Ds twitter and send death threats over my magic blood and dragon show, much less the pastel pony show.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 26, 2019, 08:21:17 AM
Haven't watched it (will wait for the English version), though I've seen a few screenshots. One thing I'm happy about is:
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Seeing Tempest and Sunset in that one scene where they show all of the characters. Finally puts the last nail in the coffin about EqG and the movie not being canon to the show. And puts all of "those fans" who constantly deny they are in their place.

Speaking of "those fans": Jim Miller and all of the other show staff have locked down their Twitter accounts due to the amount of hate and death threats they've been getting as a result of the finale. It makes me absolutely sick (some may have been trolls just trying to aggravate the situation, but most are legit fans).

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I don't really like Twilight's new look though. She looked better as a regular pony alicorn.

I am not excusing these fans completely messed up and violent behaviour but the writers set themselves up for failure when they started pandering to the exact same fandom and started making a lot of their fanon canon, including ships, characterization, names, implementing fanchars, memes, etc.
I can't think of another kids cartoon that was so heavily influenced by a totally accidental third party audience. It still boggles my mind how many "dramas" this fandom had and they were all based in entitlement fuelled by the showrunners.

You reap what you saw. You make a fanon ship canon you have to prepare for all the other fans not shipping it to scream "what about me?!?!?"
Just don't make these things canon. Just don't engage too closely with adult fans of a kids cartoon. I have always disliked when the 4th wall was broken, now the 4th wall has been completely destroyed. They better learn from this when G5 comes along.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lilja on August 26, 2019, 08:26:28 AM
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I'm glad to see we at least got something like this. With the overabundance of hetero relationships in this finale, it feels like we should've gotten more. But at least it's something.  ^.^

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Yeesh. It doesn't surprise me, I watched the Twilicorn drama unfold, The Cadence drama was a minor blip, as was the Flurry Heart one, and of course Equestria Girls. Though, the latter was made worse with Lauren Faust chimed in, which made me irritated at her; this is a TOY series, it's not your original IP, and you get mad at a TOY company who makes TOYS wanting to push TOY products?? No wonder she has a rep of being difficult to work with and always quitting things due to 'creative differences'.

I would also be upset if I had created what I thought was a diverse group of female characters, only for all of them to be turned into extreme make-up and miniskirt wearing skinny teenage girls. Of course, EqG turned out somewhat better than what those initial promos would have you believe, but still not without its problems.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 26, 2019, 08:44:39 AM
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I'm glad to see we at least got something like this. With the overabundance of hetero relationships in this finale, it feels like we should've gotten more. But at least it's something.  ^.^

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Yeesh. It doesn't surprise me, I watched the Twilicorn drama unfold, The Cadence drama was a minor blip, as was the Flurry Heart one, and of course Equestria Girls. Though, the latter was made worse with Lauren Faust chimed in, which made me irritated at her; this is a TOY series, it's not your original IP, and you get mad at a TOY company who makes TOYS wanting to push TOY products?? No wonder she has a rep of being difficult to work with and always quitting things due to 'creative differences'.

I would also be upset if I had created what I thought was a diverse group of female characters, only for all of them to be turned into extreme make-up and miniskirt wearing skinny teenage girls.

She had no leg to stand on because prior to MLP (whom she designed skinny, bobbleheaded and make-up wearing) she had Galaxy Girls, her own franchise, where all girls were skinny, make-up wearing, bobbleheaded ragdolls.

She also redesigned some of the Super Hero Girls to be extremely skinny or hourglass shaped with wasp waists, tiny noses, long legs.

Had she designed EqG they would have all looked like a mashup of Galaxy Girls and Super Hero Girls because that's her style.
She was mad she was gone from Hasbro and suddenly they made a doll line inspired by her designs when they could have picked up her Galaxy Girls franchise (but didn't want to).

She could have stayed with MLP but she left on her own to work with her husband on Wonder Over Yonder. She had a chance to influence Hasbro and she threw it away.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lady Frostbite on August 26, 2019, 08:59:48 AM
She had no leg to stand on because prior to MLP (whom she designed skinny, bobbleheaded and make-up wearing) she had Galaxy Girls, her own franchise, where all girls were skinny, make-up wearing, bobbleheaded ragdolls.

She also redesigned some of the Super Hero Girls to be extremely skinny or hourglass shaped with wasp waists, tiny noses, long legs.

Had she designed EqG they would have all looked like a mashup of Galaxy Girls and Super Hero Girls because that's her style.
She was mad she was gone from Hasbro and suddenly they made a doll line inspired by her designs when they could have picked up her Galaxy Girls franchise (but didn't want to).

She could have stayed with MLP but she left on her own to work with her husband on Wonder Over Yonder. She had a chance to influence Hasbro and she threw it away.

^^^^ THIS.

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For context.

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Batgirl HORRIFIES ME

Anyway, on-topic:

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Will these designs be made toys, as the end of the generation? Or perhaps 'special' figures akin to the Guardians of Harmony? They should appear in the Gameloft game at least.

Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lilja on August 26, 2019, 09:25:16 AM
She was mad she was gone from Hasbro and suddenly they made a doll line inspired by her designs when they could have picked up her Galaxy Girls franchise (but didn't want to).

Really? That's not how I interpreted her tweets back then. Did she state this somewhere? Yeah, she's pretty bad at body diversity, but at least she was kind of trying with DC Super-Hero Girls. That doesn't make the argument against EqG any less valid for me though.

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Will these designs be made toys, as the end of the generation? Or perhaps 'special' figures akin to the Guardians of Harmony? They should appear in the Gameloft game at least.

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I actually kinda hope we do get toys of Celestia proportioned Twilight and buff Spike, even though I think they look pretty ridiculous like that. :lol:
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Ragamuffin on August 26, 2019, 09:37:09 AM
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I'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?

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Also, pretty disappointed that the rest of the Mane 6 didn't become princesses, but this image is pretty good in its own right:
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Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Sora on August 26, 2019, 09:46:15 AM
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well, it wasn't shown at least. Rarity, twilight and applejack don't either tho, right?
Don't think so. But I have a soft spot for RD and Trixie, regardless of their sometimes obnoxious behavior :P

I am not excusing these fans completely messed up and violent behaviour but the writers set themselves up for failure when they started pandering to the exact same fandom and started making a lot of their fanon canon, including ships, characterization, names, implementing fanchars, memes, etc.
I can't think of another kids cartoon that was so heavily influenced by a totally accidental third party audience. It still boggles my mind how many "dramas" this fandom had and they were all based in entitlement fuelled by the showrunners.

You reap what you saw. You make a fanon ship canon you have to prepare for all the other fans not shipping it to scream "what about me?!?!?"
Just don't make these things canon. Just don't engage too closely with adult fans of a kids cartoon. I have always disliked when the 4th wall was broken, now the 4th wall has been completely destroyed. They better learn from this when G5 comes along.
Gotta agree with this. I don't agree with their (fans) behaviour, but feeding the fans to this extent is going to cause problems.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: JazzMatazz on August 26, 2019, 10:31:22 AM
well I haven't seen anything yet but did read spoilers and I'm a bit disappointed with the rushed ending and twilights new look is hideous though I'm not surprised it seemed all the alicorns end up with that body in their cannon. Also what a waste of Grogar and Flurry Heart it seems. :( such a promising story line
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Carolina-chan on August 26, 2019, 10:50:43 AM
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I actually kinda hope we do get toys of Celestia proportioned Twilight and buff Spike, even though I think they look pretty ridiculous like that. :lol:

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Well.. Those have existed for a while, even if they are not official :P
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Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: EnaRocketQueen on August 26, 2019, 10:57:47 AM
Sorry if this is either obvious or not allowed, but where are you finding the link? I can't find this anywhere
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Ragamuffin on August 26, 2019, 10:58:31 AM
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I actually kinda hope we do get toys of Celestia proportioned Twilight and buff Spike, even though I think they look pretty ridiculous like that. :lol:

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Well.. Those have existed for a while, even if they are not official :P
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Tfw bootleggers give their ponies more accessories than the actual real company :lmao:

There's only one Celestia that's been released since the 2017 reboot that actually has the necklace and it's a styling size pony. I don't think Luna has ever gotten her necklace and no, painted-on accessories don't count!

Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Taffeta on August 26, 2019, 11:01:24 AM


I would also be upset if I had created what I thought was a diverse group of female characters, only for all of them to be turned into extreme make-up and miniskirt wearing skinny teenage girls.

Which could also have described Christy Marx's Jem characters back in the eighties, based on the brief to sell toys she was given from Hasbro, and yet somehow it worked out and is one of the cult girl's shows of the decade.

I'm not interested in the finale per se but regarding EqG and drama, EqG was definitely trying to bring some of the Jem themes into MLP because MLP was more stable a brand than Jem. So in a sense, Christy's creations mattered more to EqG than Lauren's did. I remember when they came out and the Jem list Christy was a member of kind of took of with indignation at how Jem was being "ponied"...but Christy was always really good about maintaining professionality in those kinds of things. Even with the movie, when she was frustrated about how it was going, she only said that she'd have liked to have been involved.

No need to create drama from nothing, basically. But eh, I don't like Faust or her legacy to MLP, so maybe I'm biased.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lilja on August 26, 2019, 11:18:56 AM
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Well.. Those have existed for a while, even if they are not official :P
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Ah yeah! The bootleggers were way ahead of the curve on that one! :lol:
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on August 26, 2019, 11:23:32 AM
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I actually kinda hope we do get toys of Celestia proportioned Twilight and buff Spike, even though I think they look pretty ridiculous like that. :lol:

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Well.. Those have existed for a while, even if they are not official :P
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You know, I think I like that a lot better than the official design they came up with.
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Post by: Sora on August 26, 2019, 11:29:28 AM
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Yeah, that is kinda weird that Twilight is aging differently than her friends.  Didn’t someone on the show say Twilight won’t outlive them, though?  I may be remembering incorrectly.  Anyway, I was expecting more a Cadance-type appearance for her, but she just went full Celestia.  Didn’t she? 

I have some sort of memory about that one as well...

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Although I'm wondering if they canned that idea? I mean the others were clearly getting older, but Twilight just got bigger with no signs of aging.

After all, if she did end up aging the same way, who would look after the kingdom? Would Celestia and Luna just return? Is she just gonna pick up a new student and give them wings and/or a horn? I feel like there are too many questions now, most of which wouldn't exist without the time skip.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Taffeta on August 26, 2019, 11:39:04 AM
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Yeah, that is kinda weird that Twilight is aging differently than her friends.  Didn’t someone on the show say Twilight won’t outlive them, though?  I may be remembering incorrectly.  Anyway, I was expecting more a Cadance-type appearance for her, but she just went full Celestia.  Didn’t she? 

I have some sort of memory about that one as well...

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Although I'm wondering if they canned that idea? I mean the others were clearly getting older, but Twilight just got bigger with no signs of aging.

After all, if she did end up aging the same way, who would look after the kingdom? Would Celestia and Luna just return? Is she just gonna pick up a new student and give them wings and/or a horn? I feel like there are too many questions now, most of which wouldn't exist without the time skip.

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It's all very Angelique, with the Queen being chosen to oversee the universe, with special magic and a longer life span. Though in that context it would mean everyone else dying along the way. You have to imagine that must have happened to Luna and Celestia, too.

The show aren't going to say, by the way, everyone dies now. But the images made me think of that.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 26, 2019, 11:44:44 AM
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I'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?

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Thee are a few ponies with similar color schemes at least. I was thinking she looked a lot like Honey Rays or Cherry Berry.

As far as design goes I think the kids looked really cute. The combined cutiemarks were fun, like the cheesecake ones for Pinkie/Cheese's kids or Luster Dawn's being a sun that glimmers in the water.

I guess what bothers me a little about Twilightia is how she didn't get her own unique model while all the other Princesses had one (and she used to have one too). Even the kirin leader was more modified than Twilightia who is basically just a recolor with a new hairstyle.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on August 26, 2019, 11:49:23 AM
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I'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?

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Thee are a few ponies with similar color schemes at least. I was thinking she looked a lot like Honey Rays or Cherry Berry.

As far as design goes I think the kids looked really cute. The combined cutiemarks were fun, like the cheesecake ones for Pinkie/Cheese's kids or Luster Dawn's being a sun that glimmers in the water.

I guess what bothers me a little about Twilightia is how she didn't get her own unique model while all the other Princesses had one (and she used to have one too). Even the kirin leader was more modified than Twilightia who is basically just a recolor with a new hairstyle.

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I also found it weird how Twilight got so big so fast. Like, isn't Luna thousands of years older than her? Why is she still much smaller than Twilight appeared?

I honestly think Twilight would've looked less jarring with Luna's model, as well. But maybe her looking like Celestia was supposed to be more symbolic.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 26, 2019, 11:53:21 AM
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I'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?

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Thee are a few ponies with similar color schemes at least. I was thinking she looked a lot like Honey Rays or Cherry Berry.

As far as design goes I think the kids looked really cute. The combined cutiemarks were fun, like the cheesecake ones for Pinkie/Cheese's kids or Luster Dawn's being a sun that glimmers in the water.

I guess what bothers me a little about Twilightia is how she didn't get her own unique model while all the other Princesses had one (and she used to have one too). Even the kirin leader was more modified than Twilightia who is basically just a recolor with a new hairstyle.

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I also found it weird how Twilight got so big so fast. Like, isn't Luna thousands of years older than her? Why is she still much smaller than Twilight appeared?

I honestly think Twilight would've looked less jarring with Luna's model, as well.

"With great power comes great responsibility legs" :lol:

Tbh, I never liked Celestia's or Cadance's models. Luna's was the best of the three even tho she was also very skinny in the back, like some kind of hound. But Cadance took it to the extreme and looked like a pink whippet, while Celestia was a white giraffe ;)
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on August 26, 2019, 12:14:24 PM
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I'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?

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Thee are a few ponies with similar color schemes at least. I was thinking she looked a lot like Honey Rays or Cherry Berry.

As far as design goes I think the kids looked really cute. The combined cutiemarks were fun, like the cheesecake ones for Pinkie/Cheese's kids or Luster Dawn's being a sun that glimmers in the water.

I guess what bothers me a little about Twilightia is how she didn't get her own unique model while all the other Princesses had one (and she used to have one too). Even the kirin leader was more modified than Twilightia who is basically just a recolor with a new hairstyle.

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I also found it weird how Twilight got so big so fast. Like, isn't Luna thousands of years older than her? Why is she still much smaller than Twilight appeared?

I honestly think Twilight would've looked less jarring with Luna's model, as well.

"With great power comes great responsibility legs" :lol:

Tbh, I never liked Celestia's or Cadance's models. Luna's was the best of the three even tho she was also very skinny in the back, like some kind of hound. But Cadance took it to the extreme and looked like a pink whippet, while Celestia was a white giraffe ;)

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I think Celestia's model looks fine on her, but pasting another pony's color/face on it just looks weird, imo, and feels like lazy animation. Kinda like how the adult CMC were just their colors and manes slapped onto a generic adult pony model.

Also for some reason Twilight makes that N E C K stand out a lot more than it does on Celestia, but maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 26, 2019, 12:16:41 PM
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Pinkie Pie had a KID weird Al's Ponysona. Let that sink in.
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I'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?

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Also, pretty disappointed that the rest of the Mane 6 didn't become princesses, but this image is pretty good in its own right:
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Pinkie Pie and Weird Al's ponysona had a baby together, in canon, that's AMAZING.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Ragamuffin on August 26, 2019, 12:22:45 PM
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I'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?

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Thee are a few ponies with similar color schemes at least. I was thinking she looked a lot like Honey Rays or Cherry Berry.

As far as design goes I think the kids looked really cute. The combined cutiemarks were fun, like the cheesecake ones for Pinkie/Cheese's kids or Luster Dawn's being a sun that glimmers in the water.

I guess what bothers me a little about Twilightia is how she didn't get her own unique model while all the other Princesses had one (and she used to have one too). Even the kirin leader was more modified than Twilightia who is basically just a recolor with a new hairstyle.

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I also found it weird how Twilight got so big so fast. Like, isn't Luna thousands of years older than her? Why is she still much smaller than Twilight appeared?

I honestly think Twilight would've looked less jarring with Luna's model, as well.

"With great power comes great responsibility legs" :lol:

Tbh, I never liked Celestia's or Cadance's models. Luna's was the best of the three even tho she was also very skinny in the back, like some kind of hound. But Cadance took it to the extreme and looked like a pink whippet, while Celestia was a white giraffe ;)

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I think Celestia's model looks fine on her, but pasting another pony's color/face on it just looks weird, imo, and feels like lazy animation. Kinda like how the adult CMC were just their colors and manes slapped onto a generic adult pony model.

Also for some reason Twilight makes that N E C K stand out a lot more than it does on Celestia, but maybe that's just me.
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I agree Twilight would've looked good in a Luna or Cadence sized/shaped body over Celestia's. But it's mostly her hair that bothers me. Celestia and Luna's hair is really magical and just... I always interpreted it as like... clouds or a mist or whatever...? Like Luna actually has the night sky as her hair and Celestia has like... some weird magical rainbow or whatever. Their hair is not actually hair. Twilight's though? Is just hair. But it moves like Celestia and Luna's. Why?? They could've just given her fancy hair like Cadence...

Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Carrehz on August 26, 2019, 12:35:14 PM
omg Ragamuffin that image is hilarious and horrifying!!

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Hooray for LyraBon! Okay, the "gay couple confirmed in the last 5 minutes of the show" trope is starting to get irritating.. but I've always thought LyraBon was cute, so I'll take it. :P

so the Star/Sun kid is Luster Dawn? Oooh. Did Pinkie's kid get a name?

I don't like High Princess Twilight, either. I'm neutral to the idea itself but the execution just looks weird.. and I agree w/ you about her hair, Ragamuffin. I've never really thought that much about how Luna/Celestia's hair worked but having Twilight's hair look like that is a little too odd. It just doesn't look quite right.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lady Frostbite on August 26, 2019, 12:48:57 PM
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For me, it's the face shape and she looks like a skin stretched over a Celestia model. Being Celestia-shaped is indeed irritating when there's a Luna or Cadance model to work with. Why is the Princess of the Night always made so tiny??

I mean, look at this:

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This is what I thought Luna would ultimately look like, but nope.

As for the hair, I assumed it was due to the immense power of Celestia and Luna; Twilight's hair does the wavy thing when she was safekeeping Luna, Celestia and Cadance's magic from Tirek:

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Cadance's mane doesn't move, neither does Twilight or Flurry's. Twilight specifically mentions only Celestia and Luna have MANES like that in Rarity's Biggest Fan. Mistmane, I think, literally has mist for a mane, but when their magic was removed, Celestia and Luna still had manes, they were just still. The moving mane only showed when Twilight was trying to set the moon and raise the sun.

Tl;dr Seems Twilight inherited the Princess' immense magical ability.

Also this, because I like it:

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Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 26, 2019, 12:53:04 PM
@ Carrehz
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Pinkie refers to the baby as Lil Cheese but she has three kids with CS and they all have cheesecake marks so I bet their names are all cheesecake based ^.^
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 26, 2019, 01:18:45 PM
Lil Cheese is the name.
omg Ragamuffin that image is hilarious and horrifying!!

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Hooray for LyraBon! Okay, the "gay couple confirmed in the last 5 minutes of the show" trope is starting to get irritating.. but I've always thought LyraBon was cute, so I'll take it. :P

so the Star/Sun kid is Luster Dawn? Oooh. Did Pinkie's kid get a name?

I don't like High Princess Twilight, either. I'm neutral to the idea itself but the execution just looks weird.. and I agree w/ you about her hair, Ragamuffin. I've never really thought that much about how Luna/Celestia's hair worked but having Twilight's hair look like that is a little too odd. It just doesn't look quite right.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lady Frostbite on August 26, 2019, 02:49:04 PM
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Luster Dawn? All hail the future Princess of Equestria/future exile. Something related to day/night + glittering in some way = princess student
 Don't know why they bother with Celestia's school with that hint.

Thinking about it ... is it impossible for an Earth or Pegasus pony to be an heir? All Twilight's competition/former potential heirs have been unicorns. Twiligjt Sparkle. Sunset Shimmer. Starlight Glimmer. I look forward to Moonrise Glitter or Twinkling Eclipse replacing or being the competitor to Luster.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Al-1701 on August 26, 2019, 03:12:27 PM
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Luster Dawn? All hail the future Princess of Equestria/future exile. Something related to day/night + glittering in some way = princess student
 Don't know why they bother with Celestia's school with that hint.

Thinking about it ... is it impossible for an Earth or Pegasus pony to be an heir? All Twilight's competition/former potential heirs have been unicorns. Twiligjt Sparkle. Sunset Shimmer. Starlight Glimmer. I look forward to Moonrise Glitter or Twinkling Eclipse replacing or being the competitor to Luster.
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I remember someone made an art of a Princess Twilight with Wind Whistler as her student.  Sadly DeviantArt lost it.

I guess since the title if "Friendship is Magic" with magic being the central Element of Harmony and magic is a unicorn thing, a unicorn will always be the core.

I'm also disappointed the slowly encroaching mountain didn't come to flatten Ponyville in the end.  I had the perfect way for all this to end.  With the town crushed, a Mole-like pony pops up and declares "BEHOLD: THE UNDERPONY!"  John Ratzenberger guesting starring as said pony is a must of course.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 26, 2019, 03:17:59 PM
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Luster Dawn? All hail the future Princess of Equestria/future exile. Something related to day/night + glittering in some way = princess student
 Don't know why they bother with Celestia's school with that hint.

Thinking about it ... is it impossible for an Earth or Pegasus pony to be an heir? All Twilight's competition/former potential heirs have been unicorns. Twiligjt Sparkle. Sunset Shimmer. Starlight Glimmer. I look forward to Moonrise Glitter or Twinkling Eclipse replacing or being the competitor to Luster.

That's why we need the Rise of Flurry to put these hornfaces into their places. Only alicorn-born alicorns should be meant to rule :P
Or more like... Flurry should have had Cozy Glow's S8 role. That would have been real controversial!

About the two-parter...
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Discord should have suffered the same fate as the three baddies. I don't care if his intentions were "good", the writers used him once again as being directly responsible and once again he was easily forgiven. That's the power of character popularity.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 26, 2019, 03:21:25 PM
Hey, guys, these little ponies here:
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Are Pound Cake and Pumpkin Cake, the children of Mr. and Mrs. Cake.
But like,
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Where are Mr. Mrs. Cake? Are they dead too? Retirement home? Questions. I have questions.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 26, 2019, 03:28:20 PM
Hey, guys, these little ponies here:
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Are Pound Cake and Pumpkin Cake, the children of Mr. and Mrs. Cake.
But like,
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Where are Mr. Mrs. Cake? Are they dead too? Retirement home? Questions. I have questions.

Omg loooool I thought they where Pinkie's, too.
Sorry for the confusion. Yeah, the lack of parents threw me off.

Mr. and Mrs. Cake probably divorced when Mr. Cake found out the kids weren't his. Remember that rumor? :lol:
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 26, 2019, 03:30:07 PM
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Luster Dawn? All hail the future Princess of Equestria/future exile. Something related to day/night + glittering in some way = princess student
 Don't know why they bother with Celestia's school with that hint.

Thinking about it ... is it impossible for an Earth or Pegasus pony to be an heir? All Twilight's competition/former potential heirs have been unicorns. Twiligjt Sparkle. Sunset Shimmer. Starlight Glimmer. I look forward to Moonrise Glitter or Twinkling Eclipse replacing or being the competitor to Luster.
Cadence was a pegasus
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on August 26, 2019, 04:00:32 PM
So that Dutch streaming service that released the episodes has now pulled them and stated that it was a complete accident.

Whoopsie!
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: lonewolf on August 26, 2019, 04:26:20 PM
Well they're a little late. The damage has been done.  They should've just left them up.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: PinkieLopBun on August 26, 2019, 04:39:20 PM
So that Dutch streaming service that released the episodes has now pulled them and stated that it was a complete accident.

Whoopsie!
I see that they took down the second half of the season, but where did they say it was an accident?

EDIT: Never mind. I found it. Guess this is sorta a leak, then.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lady Frostbite on August 26, 2019, 04:40:18 PM
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Luster Dawn? All hail the future Princess of Equestria/future exile. Something related to day/night + glittering in some way = princess student
 Don't know why they bother with Celestia's school with that hint.

Thinking about it ... is it impossible for an Earth or Pegasus pony to be an heir? All Twilight's competition/former potential heirs have been unicorns. Twiligjt Sparkle. Sunset Shimmer. Starlight Glimmer. I look forward to Moonrise Glitter or Twinkling Eclipse replacing or being the competitor to Luster.

That's why we need the Rise of Flurry to put these hornfaces into their places. Only alicorn-born alicorns should be meant to rule :P
Or more like... Flurry should have had Cozy Glow's S8 role. That would have been real controversial!

About the two-parter...
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Discord should have suffered the same fate as the three baddies. I don't care if his intentions were "good", the writers used him once again as being directly responsible and once again he was easily forgiven. That's the power of character popularity.

... Oh my RA I would have killed to see s Cozy level Flurry!!
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Strawberry Swirl on August 26, 2019, 06:49:32 PM
I would like to preface this with the things that I do like before I go into full blown rant mode/start listing things that I'm making up in my head to feel better:
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-Lyra and Bon Bon are married. LYRA AND BON BON ARE MARRIED!!! LYRA AND B
-RBD and AJ's new looks.
-Twilight gets to have her own student to mentor, like she was to Celie.

Things I'm not happy about:
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-I don't particularly hate any one ship and agree that fans getting upset that their fan-made ideas are not realised is dumb. However I do feel like the Cheese/Pinkie and Fluttercord reveals are a bit much. It's possible that I'm just projecting my own personal things onto it. But for me personally it feels shoehorned in.
-I know I'm not the only one who wanted to see an older Flurry Heart.
-Speaking of, who thinks it would have been better for her to be Twily's student rather than making up a whole new character? I like Luster Dawn just fine, but it's one of those "if it were my decision" sort of things.
-About Twilight and Spike's designs: I'm not particularly into her being a Celestia type but think it makes better sense that she's Cadance type. And why is Spike oddly buff? Couldn't he be Garble (bully dragon/can't remember name) shaped instead?

What I've decided to pretend is true to please my own needs and also because I do what I want:
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-Cheese/Pinkie foal is actually Pinkieshy foal. I've decided to name her Buttercream Pie until/unless she's given a real name. Discord is the godfather and Cheese Sandwhich is surrogate + favorite "Uncle Cheese." : )
-Luster Dawn has similar situation in which she is a Startrix foal and godfather+surrogate is Sunburst.
-I believe someone on Twitter confirmed that Twilight is not immortal and really hope that's the case because who the heck would want her to outlive all her friends? They deserve to be together in death as well.
...Even though they might not put it THAT way....but still....
 
I've done inked drawings of redesigns/portrayals of these concepts that I may or may not finish. Includes a design of older Flurry and a baby brother for her, if anybody is interested in taking a look. : )


All in all, no matter the circumstances it's been an interesting run and I can't wait to see what's in store for G5.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 27, 2019, 01:59:37 AM
Well they're a little late. The damage has been done.  They should've just left them up.

Might have gotten them into trouble if it really was by accident. Allthough Australia is getting some episodes ahead of the US as well, so I am confused about how these things work.

Cut to other European countries only now getting the first episode of S9. I wonder how they decide which market gets it first and last and why. It's not like they still want to sell toys with this show
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(unless they have a secret set planned with Tirek, Chrysalis and Cozy - just for me :lol:)
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 27, 2019, 07:16:22 AM
Haven't watched it (will wait for the English version), though I've seen a few screenshots. One thing I'm happy about is:
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Seeing Tempest and Sunset in that one scene where they show all of the characters. Finally puts the last nail in the coffin about EqG and the movie not being canon to the show. And puts all of "those fans" who constantly deny they are in their place.

Speaking of "those fans": Jim Miller and all of the other show staff have locked down their Twitter accounts due to the amount of hate and death threats they've been getting as a result of the finale. It makes me absolutely sick (some may have been trolls just trying to aggravate the situation, but most are legit fans).

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I don't really like Twilight's new look though. She looked better as a regular pony alicorn.

I am not excusing these fans completely messed up and violent behaviour but the writers set themselves up for failure when they started pandering to the exact same fandom and started making a lot of their fanon canon, including ships, characterization, names, implementing fanchars, memes, etc.
I can't think of another kids cartoon that was so heavily influenced by a totally accidental third party audience. It still boggles my mind how many "dramas" this fandom had and they were all based in entitlement fuelled by the showrunners.

You reap what you saw. You make a fanon ship canon you have to prepare for all the other fans not shipping it to scream "what about me?!?!?"
Just don't make these things canon. Just don't engage too closely with adult fans of a kids cartoon. I have always disliked when the 4th wall was broken, now the 4th wall has been completely destroyed. They better learn from this when G5 comes along.

No, they didn't deserve that. Fans like that need to have their heads examined. No one deserves death threats from whiny, sick-in-the-head people just because they don't like a tv show or movie or book.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 27, 2019, 07:49:54 AM
Haven't watched it (will wait for the English version), though I've seen a few screenshots. One thing I'm happy about is:
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Seeing Tempest and Sunset in that one scene where they show all of the characters. Finally puts the last nail in the coffin about EqG and the movie not being canon to the show. And puts all of "those fans" who constantly deny they are in their place.

Speaking of "those fans": Jim Miller and all of the other show staff have locked down their Twitter accounts due to the amount of hate and death threats they've been getting as a result of the finale. It makes me absolutely sick (some may have been trolls just trying to aggravate the situation, but most are legit fans).

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I don't really like Twilight's new look though. She looked better as a regular pony alicorn.

I am not excusing these fans completely messed up and violent behaviour but the writers set themselves up for failure when they started pandering to the exact same fandom and started making a lot of their fanon canon, including ships, characterization, names, implementing fanchars, memes, etc.
I can't think of another kids cartoon that was so heavily influenced by a totally accidental third party audience. It still boggles my mind how many "dramas" this fandom had and they were all based in entitlement fuelled by the showrunners.

You reap what you saw. You make a fanon ship canon you have to prepare for all the other fans not shipping it to scream "what about me?!?!?"
Just don't make these things canon. Just don't engage too closely with adult fans of a kids cartoon. I have always disliked when the 4th wall was broken, now the 4th wall has been completely destroyed. They better learn from this when G5 comes along.

No, they didn't deserve that. Fans like that need to have their heads examined. No one deserves death threats from whiny, sick-in-the-head people just because they don't like a tv show or movie or book.

Nowhere did I say they deserve death threats. I even said I do not excuse these messed up behaviours in the very first sentence.
But if you know your fanbase is aggro and nuts you do not give them additional  reasons to flip out. These people are used to being able to write the show from behind their computer screens. They have learned if they are loud enough their fanon will be put in the show. And naturally not all of them agree with eachother and that causes fights the writers get dragged into because they always make themselves available for these dumb online arguments.

It's like giving one of your fans a cupcake and telling the others "no cupcake for you!" then say "I had nothing to do with this" when the other fans come screaming to all have a cupcake of their own.
The writers aren't obligated to give anyone a cupcake, so they just shouldn't do it.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 27, 2019, 07:59:22 AM
While I agree with that in part, the bad behavior falls strictly on the fandom and not the writers. If you give cupcakes to your neighbors across the street every year for Christmas, you shouldn't expect your next door neighbors to punch you in the face for not offering them any.  It is the fans who are too immature to realize that they don't hafta be catered too and that you can't please everybody. They had something nice done, and they bit the hand that fed.

Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on August 27, 2019, 08:27:22 AM
While I agree with that in part, the bad behavior falls strictly on the fandom and not the writers. If you give fudge to your neighbors across the street every year for Christmas, you shouldn't expect your next door neighbors to punch you in the face for not offering them any.

Giving your next door neighbors a Christmas customary treat is not the same as letting your fans write your stories if they are loud enough. These people that are now sending out threats because
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PinkieCheese
was canonized would have been docile if their ship was canonized instead and the
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PinkieCheese
fans would riot.

These entitled fans don't come in good and evil, they are all chaotic.

Canonizing any fanon ship is not necessary in the first place. It's not a seasonal custom like giving your neighbor a Christmas fudge.
That's why I compared it to giving out a special treat to one random fan while all the other fans get nothing. All these people are used to getting things from the writers. So just don't play favorites, just don't give anyone anything.

That's what I want for G5. Don't give them reasons, be the bigger person and just write your show without fanon influences.

These fans get worse by the year because they realize more and more writers will bend to their will. Netflix Voltron had fans who hacked accounts and threatened to release info if a certain ship wasn't made canon.
Steven Universe had fans gang up on a writer who wrote in a ship they didn't agree on and the writer shut down all her social media and left the show.

These people need to get ignored, not given treats. If writers are so stupid to engage them they need to learn from the bad experience and not do it again. Because you can't change these entitled fans, you can however take away some of that entitlement by making your writing unaffected by fanon. This way they can't claim your time.

I can't express myself more clearly. I won't let my words get twisted into victimblaming. The writers do not deserve the backlash but they should have known better (wisdom of almost 10 years of engaging with various nutjobs and giving them treat after treat).
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 27, 2019, 09:57:21 AM
I want them to write MLP for kids. That's all.

Yikes! I didn't know that about some of those other cartoons.  :shocked: I know companies have legal protections and should have slapped them with lawsuits and other legal repercussions. That woulda fixed their little red wagon. Freakin psychos.

Anyway, I'm glad FiM is over. Hopefully the next gen will return to having better more diverse horse toys, decent artwork and decent writing. And I hope that another group of toxic crazies won't pop up and be pandered to ever again.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lady Frostbite on August 27, 2019, 10:10:25 AM
I wonder if the Gameloft game will be kept alive after this? Will the MLP comics continue?
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Ragamuffin on August 27, 2019, 10:14:27 AM
I wonder if the Gameloft game will be kept alive after this? Will the MLP comics continue?

It was said somewhere that the comics will continue and I'm sure they'll keep supporting the Gameloft game for as long as they're making money.

Hasbro also said on the season 9 announcement post on Facebook that they're continuing to provide content, which I assume is the comics and the animated shorts and whatever they've been posting to Youtube. Oh, and the stage show next year...
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 27, 2019, 12:14:12 PM
I see nothing wrong with making
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Cheesepie
canon. Lets face it, every character was shipped in this show. Can't make everyone happy. Fans need to accept it and calm down. Its the last episode, its a wholesome ship.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Al-1701 on August 27, 2019, 03:11:37 PM
I have to agree with Zapper that the people running this show set themselves up for failure.  They have bent to the will of bronies since the community gain prominence, and never seemed willing to say no to them.  So, when it came time to make a decision on a controversial topic, someone was going to be angry and that community never had to develop the coping mechanisms for not getting their way.

Really, social media probably the worst thing to happen to media as it brings the staff and actors within digital arm's reach of the fans which means they're within reach to be digitally maimed by people who believe they can give in to their worst impulses from behind a computer screen.

Anyway, I'm personally okay with Cheese Pie.  Though, at this point I just don't care what's happens in the show.  I'm just glad it's over.

Here's hoping the staff goes into G5 with the mindset they're the ones making the show and not to instill the sense of entitlement in the fans they did this time.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Shadowperla on August 27, 2019, 04:24:28 PM
They could have made-up new spouses, so no fan ship is real, maybe?
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: SpacePinto on August 27, 2019, 04:54:11 PM
The show producers knew what they were getting into when they decided to pander to a group known for its sense of entitlement and throwing tantrums whenever they don't get their way, what did they expect to happen when one day they are simply unable to give them what they want? Sadly, I don't think G5 will change much in that matter, some bronies will still be around writing their cringeworthy fanfictions and obsessing over characters, and from what others have said it looks like greedy Hasbro will continue making G4-related media and merchandise even after the toyline and cartoon themselves are over. The only hope is that without new episodes there will be no new bronies coming in and the remaining ones will eventually just get bored, but it might take years. And that's assuming that G5 won't be just a continuation of G4 so that Hasbro could milk bronies for their money as long as they can. Sometimes I wonder if the fandom will ever return to its pre-2010 innocence, or maybe that stain is just permanent...
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on August 27, 2019, 06:06:59 PM
I don't have access to them, but if those leaked emails from last year are anything to go by (they correctly predicted much of season 8 and 9), it looks like G5 might be taking the brony catering and dialing it up to 11. Reusing the same six ponies again (why????), making the world extremely complex (multidimensional universe where each species of pony resides on their own world that's somehow interconnected?), raising the show's rating to include fantasy violence, even.

Of course these are all from when the new G5 show was in EARLY pre-production, and maybe some things have changed since then. But I'm personally not getting my hopes up, as much as I wish G5 goes back to the days of G3 and before, I feel like G4 and the brony fandom have screwed the franchise in the long run.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Al-1701 on August 28, 2019, 02:53:10 AM
Then I guess maybe, as terrible as it sounds, we want G5 to go the way of G2 Transformers.  It is a commercial flop and quickly abandoned.  Hasbro realizes bronies are not a group to be catered to for good business, and goes back to how they did things before FiM or go in a completely new direction.  It'll be painful for all of us during the 2020's, but in the long run might save the brand.

Because I think with FiM My Little Pony has lost its identity.  It's too busy pandering to a particular subset of the adult fanbase and trying to be hip to keep track of what it's supposed to be about.  It's even twisted into own purpose, teach lessons about friendship, into being so toxic I wouldn't allow small children to watch this show because of the terrible and counterproductive things this show has to say.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Carrehz on August 28, 2019, 06:51:21 AM
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-shrug- I guess I just don't see how pairing the characters off = pandering to the bronies!! Maybe you've got a point with LyraBon, but the others.. I dunno. Lots of stories end with the heroes hooking up and having kids... Who's to say the crew didn't ship Cheese/Pinkie themselves, lol. Any pairing can be considered a "ship", the idiots that get het up over silly cartoon pairings would get angry about it no matter what :P

(not that I'm saying all shippers are silly, I'm talking about the ones that take it super seriously and get angry and vitriolic about it :P)
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on August 28, 2019, 09:30:13 AM
A part of me hopes that, with how bronies have violently reacted to the finale (and will likely continue to react as it's released in more countries & languages), Hasbro realizes that maybe it is better to drop that audience, as things like that could taint MLP in the public eye if it gets enough publicity. The harder they cater to them the worse it'll get.

I think it is possible that G5 is going to flop hard if they go the way they're currently going. Bronies will hate it because it's too different, changing the identity of the characters they know/love for the purpose of milking them further. Other MLP fans will hate it because it isn't different enough, using the same characters again. Parents might even hate it because oh great the kids want ANOTHER Pinkie Pie/Rainbow Dash/whoever else?

All wishful thinking, of course, and we won't know anything about G5 for sure until it's announced. I just really miss the innocence of pre-FiM MLP, or heck, even early FiM when it was still a cute show for kids. I recently watched a random season 2 episode and it was honestly shocking just how far removed season 9 is from that. Seasons 1-2 had an air of innocence that's just not there anymore in the later seasons, from before bronies took over. I miss it.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: caseysealia on August 28, 2019, 09:59:46 AM
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-shrug- I guess I just don't see how pairing the characters off = pandering to the bronies!! Maybe you've got a point with LyraBon, but the others.. I dunno. Lots of stories end with the heroes hooking up and having kids... Who's to say the crew didn't ship Cheese/Pinkie themselves, lol. Any pairing can be considered a "ship", the idiots that get het up over silly cartoon pairings would get angry about it no matter what :P

(not that I'm saying all shippers are silly, I'm talking about the ones that take it super seriously and get angry and vitriolic about it :P)
I can agree with this. If fans are so upset by their ship being dumped to the point of harassment  then they have bigger issues.

Post Merge: August 28, 2019, 10:01:39 AM

A part of me hopes that, with how bronies have violently reacted to the finale (and will likely continue to react as it's released in more countries & languages), Hasbro realizes that maybe it is better to drop that audience, as things like that could taint MLP in the public eye if it gets enough publicity. The harder they cater to them the worse it'll get.

I think it is possible that G5 is going to flop hard if they go the way they're currently going. Bronies will hate it because it's too different, changing the identity of the characters they know/love for the purpose of milking them further. Other MLP fans will hate it because it isn't different enough, using the same characters again. Parents might even hate it because oh great the kids want ANOTHER Pinkie Pie/Rainbow Dash/whoever else?

All wishful thinking, of course, and we won't know anything about G5 for sure until it's announced. I just really miss the innocence of pre-FiM MLP, or heck, even early FiM when it was still a cute show for kids. I recently watched a random season 2 episode and it was honestly shocking just how far removed season 9 is from that. Seasons 1-2 had an air of innocence that's just not there anymore in the later seasons, from before bronies took over. I miss it.
They can go back and forth too- Every gen should be different. Some gens are more like g3 and some are more like FIM. No matter what they do though they should always remember their target audience
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 28, 2019, 10:03:38 AM
Al, that's what I've been saying. But I'm often told that Hasbro doesn't cater to the toxic bronies. Sure looks like they do to me.

Avian, its already been tainted in the public eye. The damage was done way before this unfortunately.

Hasbro is also unhealthily obsessed right now, its plain to be seen with trying to retroactively tie everything back to the Mane Suxx in their products and taking a steaming crap on their very lucrative legacy for their toxic audience's benefit with that youtube show, while snubbing their core audience and older fanbase. 

They don't treat Transformers or G.I. Joe or its fans like this. Why do they treat My Little Pony and its fans like this?

Screw it, I guess they deserve each other!
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: SpacePinto on August 28, 2019, 10:14:16 AM
A part of me hopes that, with how bronies have violently reacted to the finale (and will likely continue to react as it's released in more countries & languages), Hasbro realizes that maybe it is better to drop that audience, as things like that could taint MLP in the public eye if it gets enough publicity.

That would be perfect, but didn't bronies have bigger meltdowns over the show before, with Hasbro simply turning a blind eye?
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Ragamuffin on August 28, 2019, 11:03:25 AM
Here's a really quick unpolished design of Twilight I came up with...

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(one that doesn't look like a Celestia recolour)

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Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on August 28, 2019, 11:12:01 AM
Here's a really quick unpolished design of Twilight I came up with...

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Now this...

I like this.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 28, 2019, 12:23:20 PM
Here's a really quick unpolished design of Twilight I came up with...

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(one that doesn't look like a Celestia recolour)

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I like the softer blurred colors. The pink and yellow give her a galactic feel.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Carrehz on August 28, 2019, 01:16:17 PM
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That is MUCH better, Ragamuffin!!! I was thinking just the other day that her hair really needed a gradient. (I know the official design has a bit of a gradient going on, but her hair stripes are just sort of... there, that's one of the things that bothered me about the design, I think.) I like her face a lot better here, too. Very nice design ^^
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Al-1701 on August 28, 2019, 01:52:50 PM
Here's a really quick unpolished design of Twilight I came up with...

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(one that doesn't look like a Celestia recolour)

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I like the progression of colors in the mane and tail.  Makes me think of a twilight which is spot on.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Strawberry Swirl on August 28, 2019, 04:18:27 PM
Here's a really quick unpolished design of Twilight I came up with...

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Now THIS....this is beautiful.
The gradients on the wings and hair, as well as twinkles that resemble stars are all a nice touch. That and the crown resembling her element from the beginning of it all. Definitely feels more natural than what we got.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Taffeta on August 29, 2019, 01:36:59 AM
A part of me hopes that, with how bronies have violently reacted to the finale (and will likely continue to react as it's released in more countries & languages), Hasbro realizes that maybe it is better to drop that audience, as things like that could taint MLP in the public eye if it gets enough publicity.

That would be perfect, but didn't bronies have bigger meltdowns over the show before, with Hasbro simply turning a blind eye?

Hasbro care about making money. Controversy can also gain attention for the brand and thus build the market, ironic as it sounds. It's probably not something they're worried about, as the criticism is not going directly to them but the people working on the show.

Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Pinkie21 on August 29, 2019, 08:51:55 AM
A part of me hopes that, with how bronies have violently reacted to the finale (and will likely continue to react as it's released in more countries & languages), Hasbro realizes that maybe it is better to drop that audience, as things like that could taint MLP in the public eye if it gets enough publicity. The harder they cater to them the worse it'll get.

I’m hoping for this, as well.  Honestly, I’m glad people are really disliking this whole finale thing thus far.  If it ends badly, maybe the fandom will finally shut up and give MLP back to its target audience.  It’s been nice that people of all ages have been able to enjoy the ponies, but it’s been forgotten that this franchise has always been around with children as the priority.  It so happens that we adults can enjoy it too, but we’re the afterthought.  If g5 can bring back the innocence of G1-3 (and even early g4), I think this franchise can stay strong. 
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: otocolobus_manul on August 29, 2019, 12:44:43 PM
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I must admit I'm disappointed the young 6 didn't pick up the elements. They had it all set up! Bwaaaaaah muh theory. Though I get the "elements were just symbols" thing.

EY THE PILLARS ARE BACK

Grown up babies ahoy! I get the feeling I could watch this episode many times and notice new things.

LYRABON. YES. We needed one couple to not be straight to balance everything out.

Aaaah, RIP the Golden Horseshoe Gals. Makes sense, but still sad.

HA THE VILLAINS WEREN'T REDEEMED. I was so afraid they would be.

Ohhh man that finale. I'm moving away from my childhood friends in a few months, and I really needed to see that.

OH THE BOOK CLOSING NEARLY MADE ME TEAR UP

Sunset! Fizzlepop! Autumn Blaze! Sky Stinger and Vapor Trail! KIRIN!

YONA IS GIANT WOW. I'm not crazy about her or the ship, but I love the boutique being handed down to Sandbar and his giant wife.

Can't wait til this comes out in English!
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Strawberry Swirl on August 29, 2019, 04:14:07 PM
Here's some finished images of my version of the finale.

Pinkieshy + Buttercream Pie
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Cheese Sandwhich is Butterscream's surrogate and favorite "Uncle Cheese!"

Twilight + Spike
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Not as fantastic as Ragamuffin's wonderful design but I like it anyway : )

Shining Armor + Cadence family (with added baby brother for Flurry!)
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Flurry grew up to be a tomboy type, and is a rambunctious little filly that's a huge daddy's girl.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on September 03, 2019, 05:56:48 PM
English version has been leaked.

Won't post the links here, but this should be interesting.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: lonewolf on September 04, 2019, 06:11:58 AM
English version has been leaked.

Won't post the links here, but this should be interesting.

This time it wasn't a leak. It was another full on hacking job.... By the same Russian that hacked DHX before.  In addition to the remaining eps, unreleased shorts were also included, along with the actual original scripts for all of that, and every other episode made.

 And there's almost no escape from the spoilers now. Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram are getting filled with them, and now screenshots of spoilers are appearing as Youtube video thumbnails, which means you can be browsing pony vids and come across them.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Carrehz on September 04, 2019, 07:40:06 AM
Oh expletive.

Overseas airings are one thing, but I just can't abide hackings... And it's not even just searching for pony vids that'll get you spoilers, I've found before that YouTube WILL just throw random spoilery vids into my suggestions no matter what I've been watching. >( I hope everyone that wants to, can remain unspoiled! This is awful news. :(
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on September 04, 2019, 07:51:24 AM
Oh yikes. :whoa:

Didn't realize it was that bad.

Making me feel guilty for watching it now...
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on September 04, 2019, 07:59:19 AM
English version has been leaked.

Won't post the links here, but this should be interesting.

This time it wasn't a leak. It was another full on hacking job.... By the same Russian that hacked DHX before.  In addition to the remaining eps, unreleased shorts were also included, along with the actual original scripts for all of that, and every other episode made.

 And there's almost no escape from the spoilers now. Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram are getting filled with them, and now screenshots of spoilers are appearing as Youtube video thumbnails, which means you can be browsing pony vids and come across them.

Oh, so we know now who extracted all those G5 concept arts?
Rumor had it that it was a Hasbro employee who was fired, lol.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 04, 2019, 08:49:35 AM
The English version didn't reveal more than the Dutch dub did, darn.
I feel like everyone has been spoiled by now.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on September 04, 2019, 08:51:46 AM
English version has been leaked.

Won't post the links here, but this should be interesting.

This time it wasn't a leak. It was another full on hacking job.... By the same Russian that hacked DHX before.  In addition to the remaining eps, unreleased shorts were also included, along with the actual original scripts for all of that, and every other episode made.

 And there's almost no escape from the spoilers now. Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram are getting filled with them, and now screenshots of spoilers are appearing as Youtube video thumbnails, which means you can be browsing pony vids and come across them.

Oh, so we know now who extracted all those G5 concept arts?
Rumor had it that it was a Hasbro employee who was fired, lol.

Ugh, I still really hope those G5 concepts were either faked or scrapped. They look so un-MLP-like.

The English version didn't reveal more than the Dutch dub did, darn.
I feel like everyone has been spoiled by now.

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I only saw ep. 26, but it made me like Luster Dawn a bit less.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on September 04, 2019, 11:22:57 AM
I feel bad for the artists and writers but I have a little devil on my shoulder cackling. G4 went out like a fart.
And that spoiler situation reminds me of when the last Harry Potter book came out and evil fans wrote in dust and snow who dies so even if you were just walking on the street you couldn't escape the spoilers :lol:
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 04, 2019, 11:45:23 AM
I feel bad for the artists and writers but I have a little devil on my shoulder cackling. G4 went out like a fart.
And that spoiler situation reminds me of when the last Harry Potter book came out and evil fans wrote in dust and snow who dies so even if you were just walking on the street you couldn't escape the spoilers :lol:

Wow. Did they really? I wasn't into harry potter at the height of its popularity so I didn't know all that.

Post Merge: September 04, 2019, 11:45:56 AM

Oh yikes. :whoa:

Didn't realize it was that bad.

Making me feel guilty for watching it now...

Ah don't. Its not like your the one who did it. Also, I hope that's not G5 either.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on September 04, 2019, 12:47:35 PM
I feel bad for the artists and writers but I have a little devil on my shoulder cackling. G4 went out like a fart.
And that spoiler situation reminds me of when the last Harry Potter book came out and evil fans wrote in dust and snow who dies so even if you were just walking on the street you couldn't escape the spoilers :lol:

Wow. Did they really? I wasn't into harry potter at the height of its popularity so I didn't know all that.

I wasn't into HP and even I saw the dusty cars with "Snape dies" smudges :lol:

So I watched the English finale...
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...and the only thing I missed is where Luna and Celestia retire to (Silver Valley...ok... what is that?)
Is it like the Gray Havens in LotR where all the Elves disappear to? Meh.

And yeah, I am still baffled they forgave Discord so easily. It was all his fault, again. This piece of work helped Tirek once and now he helped him twice. He also resurrected Sombra. Without his help, Sombra wouldn't have endangered Twilight's family. But sure, she is just letting that slide.
Without Discord Chrysalis would have just sulked somewhere and never become a true danger to Starlight since all her changelings turned into butterflies. And Cozy? Just a kid with a personality disorder.
But that donkeysnake brought them all together to "test Twilight" and make her feel like a hero.
Did Discord ever have to pay for the crap he pulled with Tirek the first time. It's like when little kids try to steal magic they go to Tartarus but if fan favorite tries to enslave everyone and steal magic he gets a slap on the wrist until he does it again and then he onky gets an angry look.
Proof that Discord should have never become a show regular. They kept writing him as a villain (leading Twilight and Cadance into a trap to fight a monster, bullying Starlight, trying to throw Fluttershy's friend into a different dimension...) but he still got to stick around.

After the episode where he tried to throw Treehugger away I thought he'd finally calm down and yet here we are, finale caused by Discord Ex Machina and we even got to see him become Fluttershy's housedragon after that.
Turn the dude back to stone and let him stand next to Tirek, Chrys and Cozy.

Where the hay are Cozy's parents btw... was she an orphan or are two poor ponies now looking for their child? :P
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Strawberry Swirl on September 04, 2019, 01:02:36 PM
Which G5 concepts are we talking about here? o.o
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: AvianWing on September 04, 2019, 02:10:54 PM
Which G5 concepts are we talking about here? o.o

Assuming I'm talking about the same leaks as everyone else:

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Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 04, 2019, 02:42:20 PM
Which G5 concepts are we talking about here? o.o

Assuming I'm talking about the same leaks as everyone else:

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That's fanart.
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Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Al-1701 on September 04, 2019, 04:29:07 PM
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Why stone?  Just kill the villains for once.  If anything, turning them to stone is worse.  Remember when turning creatures into inanimate material was the tool of the BAD GUYS?!
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Shadowperla on September 05, 2019, 03:19:52 PM
Here's a really quick unpolished design of Twilight I came up with...

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Ah, my friend said that leaked script details Twilight mane exactly as such! I think Hasbro got  cheap on animating that :(
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on September 06, 2019, 05:35:49 AM
Nice, Raga! You put the literal twilight in her mane. I'd be fine with the canon one if they blurred out that magenta stripe more. It looks like a band waving in the night sky.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on September 07, 2019, 03:46:38 PM
About the plot twist...

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Why did nobody acknowledge that Discord practically raised the dead? People complain about Twilight being too powerful but the chaos guy resurrected a "killed off" villain from the shadow zone like it's no big deal and then got him "killed" again.
Back when we thought he was Grogar it made sense because we were to believe Grogar is a necromancer. But now we know Discord is actually a necromancer on top of being already crazy powerful. He is more godlike than any of the Princesses could ever be :lookround:
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Al-1701 on September 07, 2019, 07:37:36 PM
About the plot twist...

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Why did nobody acknowledge that Discord practically raised the dead? People complain about Twilight being too powerful but the chaos guy resurrected a "killed off" villain from the shadow zone like it's no big deal and then got him "killed" again.
Back when we thought he was Grogar it made sense because we were to believe Grogar is a necromancer. But now we know Discord is actually a necromancer on top of being already crazy powerful. He is more godlike than any of the Princesses could ever be :lookround:
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Even though Grogar was never a necromancer in the original series.  He was a sorcerer using a powerful object, but none of his powers had anything to do with the dead.

And Discord has officially become the worst interpretation of Q, an imp there to torment the character for his sick pleasure.  They probably thought this was like the ending of "All Good Things" not realizing it was Picard's actions that led to the anomaly of doom (Q was just displacing him through time).  Instead this comes off more like Mxyzptlk.  Only Discord won't get whisked off the cornfield if he says or spells his name backwards.

Also, this twist is just plain stupid.  It's one last middle finger to the older fans as this isn't Grogar but a fake.  After Roid Tirek and the radioactive booger, they struck out on references to the past series.  Do they hate the legacy of this brand at DHX?  And, as I said, Discord has devolved into an imp.  It's also a disservice to Twilight and crew that Discord set up a crisis for them to solve instead of this being an actual crisis.
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Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Pinkie21 on September 08, 2019, 06:02:53 AM
Alright, so the English version:

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I liked Luster Dawn in the beginning, when she thought friendship was a waste of time.  She’s not wrong about any of what she said.  Yet Twilight made her weak in the end.  Of course this show is going to teach “the magic of friendship” and all that ridiculousness.  But I didn’t like how quickly it turned from “friendship is a waste of time and energy” to “oh wait you guys still see each other every year?  Yay friendship!” 

Another thing... Twilight’s voice REALLY did not suit her new form.  She still sounds like a tiny little pony, not a majestic regal beast of a horse.  Then again, all she controls is friendship so I guess she doesn’t need to have a strong vocal presence to do that. 

Did...did the real Princesses actually go to that nursing home?  Granted I think they simply referred to Silver Shoals as a retirement village of some sort, but let’s get real.  It’s a nursing home.  Look at Luna!  Does she *really* look like she needs to live in an old folks’  home? 

Lastly, I’m still so glad Cozy Glow got turned to stone.  I’ve seen stuff on various other pages where people are unhappy she never got to be redeemed, and that’s exactly why I’m thrilled she didn’t.  I love that there are villains that have never been reformed.  Like, I enjoy Steven Universe but the constant redeeming villains trope is grating and unrealistic.  There are bad people in the world, and you can’t talk or befriend them into submission.  I’m happy this series at least acknowledges that fact, where SU tries to paint the world in an overly naive, “love solves everything” kind of light.  So I have to give this series credit where credit is due.

And now, onward to G5!  Just please, PLEASE don’t make the new franchise shove friendship down our collective throats.  Let’s just watch colorful equines go on little girly adventures and sell toys.  That’s all I ever want MLP to be. 



Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Carrehz on September 08, 2019, 08:49:49 AM
Just please, PLEASE don’t make the new franchise shove friendship down our collective throats.  Let’s just watch colorful equines go on little girly adventures and sell toys.  That’s all I ever want MLP to be.

Hear hear! :iconclap:
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on September 08, 2019, 10:11:21 AM
Alright, so the English version:

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I liked Luster Dawn in the beginning, when she thought friendship was a waste of time.  She’s not wrong about any of what she said.  Yet Twilight made her weak in the end.  Of course this show is going to teach “the magic of friendship” and all that ridiculousness.  But I didn’t like how quickly it turned from “friendship is a waste of time and energy” to “oh wait you guys still see each other every year?  Yay friendship!” 

Another thing... Twilight’s voice REALLY did not suit her new form.  She still sounds like a tiny little pony, not a majestic regal beast of a horse.  Then again, all she controls is friendship so I guess she doesn’t need to have a strong vocal presence to do that. 

Did...did the real Princesses actually go to that nursing home?  Granted I think they simply referred to Silver Shoals as a retirement village of some sort, but let’s get real.  It’s a nursing home.  Look at Luna!  Does she *really* look like she needs to live in an old folks’  home? 

Lastly, I’m still so glad Cozy Glow got turned to stone.  I’ve seen stuff on various other pages where people are unhappy she never got to be redeemed, and that’s exactly why I’m thrilled she didn’t.  I love that there are villains that have never been reformed.  Like, I enjoy Steven Universe but the constant redeeming villains trope is grating and unrealistic.  There are bad people in the world, and you can’t talk or befriend them into submission.  I’m happy this series at least acknowledges that fact, where SU tries to paint the world in an overly naive, “love solves everything” kind of light.  So I have to give this series credit where credit is due.

And now, onward to G5!  Just please, PLEASE don’t make the new franchise shove friendship down our collective throats.  Let’s just watch colorful equines go on little girly adventures and sell toys.  That’s all I ever want MLP to be.
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My issue with the "stoning" is that it was done because the series wrapped up. They redeemed worse villains than Cozy Glow in the past. Discord even acted villainous after his "redemption" like I pointed out before. And he only ever got angry looks and peptalks. Starlight tried to undo the entire Princess of Friendship thing and never had to spend time in Tartarus. Yet normal animals were thrown into Tartarus for being magical.

Cozy on the other side is just a crazy child without any magical powers. It's not like they killed her, we all know they can reverse the stone magic (as they did to Discord) but it shows how hastily they had to write this plotline. I did not want to see her redeemed at all. But let's face it, the only truly dangerous guy was Tirek and he was locked away until Discord freed him.

I so don't believe they did this to show that some people are irredeemable. The show just ended and they had to force a happy end.

Btw, I laughed at "nursing home". It still baffles me they never explored the princesses further. Who made them alicorns? Why were they so old? And now they are just going away because being a princess was just a job for them. Weird.

I guess it's time to admit this show was never meant to run for 9 seasons. It's like Hasbro still doesn't understand why MLP is popular after all these years. I feel like they threw a bunch of things against a wall to see which one sticks. They seemingly had no plan but to sell M6 over and over again XD

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About the plot twist...

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Why did nobody acknowledge that Discord practically raised the dead? People complain about Twilight being too powerful but the chaos guy resurrected a "killed off" villain from the shadow zone like it's no big deal and then got him "killed" again.
Back when we thought he was Grogar it made sense because we were to believe Grogar is a necromancer. But now we know Discord is actually a necromancer on top of being already crazy powerful. He is more godlike than any of the Princesses could ever be :lookround:
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Even though Grogar was never a necromancer in the original series.  He was a sorcerer using a powerful object, but none of his powers had anything to do with the dead.

And Discord has officially become the worst interpretation of Q, an imp there to torment the character for his sick pleasure.  They probably thought this was like the ending of "All Good Things" not realizing it was Picard's actions that led to the anomaly of doom (Q was just displacing him through time).  Instead this comes off more like Mxyzptlk.  Only Discord won't get whisked off the cornfield if he says or spells his name backwards.

Also, this twist is just plain stupid.  It's one last middle finger to the older fans as this isn't Grogar but a fake.  After Roid Tirek and the radioactive booger, they struck out on references to the past series.  Do they hate the legacy of this brand at DHX?  And, as I said, Discord has devolved into an imp.  It's also a disservice to Twilight and crew that Discord set up a crisis for them to solve instead of this being an actual crisis.
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I guess they wanted to use Tirek but they already used his schtick for Nightmare Moon so they turned him into a brute. As someone who doesn'f read the comics I was weirded out by Discord mentioning his father and how he wanted to impress him. I was like "ok I guess I have to read the comics to find out what that means?"

Never big on Star Trek so I can't say how much they took from Q but can I just say how lazy I think it is to hire an actor and then have him play a cartoon version of his Star Trek character? Why was this show so reference heavy? This is like Mudbriar essentially being Sheldon from TBBT. They just had so many "pony versions" of characters that already existed. Where is the imagination in that? They even acted like the hourglass pony was a legit reincarnation of The Doctor. Who needs this stuff? Dr. Who fans? Star Trek fans? I doubt these types of fans will watch MLP because they had Shatner's voice in one ep.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Al-1701 on September 08, 2019, 01:28:56 PM
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It all comes down to the bronies.  Bronies come from the larger nerd culture for the most part, so referencing nerd culture make them feel the show is meant for them (which they need because even at the end they don't want to admit they like something meant for little girls).

As for Tirac/Tirek (couldn't they be bothered to learn how to spell and SAY their name), "The Night That Never Ends" was the obvious stated goal.  However, if you look at the real Tirac, his realm, castle, and underlings were all corruptions.  The probably with Tirek is his endgame was stupid.  He wanted to absorb all the magic in Equestria to turn into a kaiju and destroy stuff?  What?  That's all you have?

Really, both Discord and Tirek demonstrate what was wrong with this series.  It was written by unimaginative people.  They could get away with it because they had an audience that was appeased by stroking their egos, but there was no vision for this series.  That's why the villains ended up all falling flat in the end.  That's why friendship was shoved so far down the audience's throat.  That's why there seemed to be an overtone of pony (especially unicorn) master race and borderline racist depictions of the other species.  That's why this last half of the final season seemed intended to make us hate these characters.  These writers were out of their depth but no one held them responsible.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on September 08, 2019, 01:58:30 PM
I think as far as villains go Chrysalis was the best one (because at first it looked like she only followed her species instincts and was a rather good leader... of course they had to turn her evil after that), followed by Discord who was an interesting foe with his genie magic and literal chaotic nature.

Sunset, Tempest, Luna and Starlight were written to be redeemed so I don't count them. Notice how all of them are ponies connected to Twilight.

Cozy, Tirek and Sombra were just powerhungry and they really could have used them better. Sombra in the two-parter of S9 almost made me feel bad for him because all of a sudden he had a personality and was a real character.
Cozy left me wondering where the heck she came from. She had no backstory at all and I think that was a waste. Tirek is probably the worst villain because yeah, his goal was just to be big?
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Discord's throwaway comment about his daddy issues couldn't have been placed in the actual Tirek arc? Because that would have at least explained things a bit more.

I think Tirek in FiM was supposed to be a Dragon Ball Z reference? Because that's what I always read about him. His power level is always rising and he shoots lasers and throws mountains on ponies. I find him entertaining but if the G1 version was in G5 I would rejoice. He was so menacing and regal. Along with Grogar he is a classic MLP villain to me.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Shadowperla on September 08, 2019, 03:38:02 PM
Cozy left me wondering where the heck she came from. She had no backstory at all and I think that was a waste.
I remember how a friend said:
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I guess the next villain after Cozy Glow would be a living teaparty, with episode called "See, We Are Totally Denouncing Girly Things!"
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lady Frostbite on September 08, 2019, 04:53:39 PM
Tirek is probably the worst villain because yeah, his goal was just to be big?

Hey, come on now, a bro wants Gains, he's got a way of doin' it! We can't all hit the gym in Tartarus!

I really wanted Chrysalis fleshed out. I was so sure that Luna and Celestia suddenly retiring was some sort of Changling-related plot, especially with Celestia's change of expression when she announced 'TO RETIRE!'. It seems the writers forgot she can feed on any emotion, just love is the strongest for her (actually, scratch that, she probably just went for the easiest option that would be the most tasty). I'm half-tempted to do some weird fanfic where she really is a 'villain' but only to ponies; to her people, she's a great and caring leader, and do the Thorax part different.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on September 09, 2019, 01:21:27 AM
Cozy left me wondering where the heck she came from. She had no backstory at all and I think that was a waste.
I remember how a friend said:
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I guess the next villain after Cozy Glow would be a living teaparty, with episode called "See, We Are Totally Denouncing Girly Things!"

I don't quite get this because Fluttershy always had teaparties and nobody ever said it was bad?

What I thought was iffy about Cozy is that she was based on Shirley Temple and the writers seemed to be so proud of that fact? How Shirley was treated was awful. It never sat right with me. Same as when I found out Darla Dimple in Cats Don't Dance was based on Shirley. Damn, did Shirley Temple commit a crime I am unaware of? She was preyed on by adult men and had to act in movies where she played a
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child prostitute
.

Seeing that and going "ahh wouldn't it be funny if she wasn't the victim but the attacker?" just boggles my mind.
Coupled with Cozy not getting any background except "she's powerhungry" made me believe they just tried to be edgy with this character.

I kept on thinking she was not actually a child or at first I thought she was Chrysalis. But no, she's just an evil child based on Shirley Temple. What.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Al-1701 on September 09, 2019, 03:25:50 AM
Being edgy is probably the mindset with her.  Increasingly it seems bronies are the staff the staff are bronies.  Like they forgot who the show was meant for.  Hence why the message has grown to be so toxic.  Adults can understand the intent to be funny, but this show has been telling little kids, presented in what is supposed to be an instructive way, some terrible things.  Though, it's probably to validate the staff and bronies' warped view of the world.

At the end of the day, I think history will not be kind to Friendship is Magic.  It will be a show that had a promising beginning, but it never bothered to establish an identity and its fame (or rather infamy) will be more defined by the peripheral fanbase it garnered instead of the show or toys themselves.  Perhaps the one benefit will be what came before being looked upon more fondly in retrospect.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on September 09, 2019, 07:06:07 AM
I am repeating myself but I hope they change some of the higher ups for G5. We need this to be a proper kids cartoon again.
A lot of problems I had with the writing of FiM are based in the writers failing to marry "nerdy geek show" with "wholesome kids show".

The two concepts don't mesh very well, imo.

MLP is iconic by itself. It doesn't need a cacophony of references, dated internet memes and character templates based on fanon ideas and characters from other shows.
If MLP G5 was in the hands of people who put kids first that would be already a good start.

As someone working in kids games and media, I can't just create something a mass of people will like. I have to put the kids interests first and then decide if I can meet these interests while still keeping in mind if it's actually good for the kids. That's what we call pedagogy.

Not to derail too much but for instance, I hate these L.O.L. sexy baby dolls MGAE produces. I think it's bothersome how the babies are styled and how there are so many parodies of actual products and references to adult pop singers. It's more consumerist than other toy brands.

They sell like hotcakes but that doesn't mean the product has a good message.
FiM became a bit like the L.O.L. dolls. Pop culture references, style over substance, some themes that are not suited for kids while actual important themes (such as dealing with the loss of a parent) were glossed over and excused with the ~childfriendliness of the show.

Using an abused child star of the 30s/40s as your basis for an iredeemable villain while a gaslighting, abusive guy becomes a young woman's best friend because she officially "redeemed him" is just... I don't care if I am overthinking this but I wish people would scream "think of the children" when it really counts. Not just in FiM but most kids cartoons. Why are kids shielded from the word "DEATH" in a show that teaches that little kids are born evil. Seriously...

I will shut up now :P
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Dragonflitter on September 09, 2019, 10:24:45 AM
Okay it has been TORTUER to avoid this thread for so long, but I just found the last three episodes uploaded to youtube as one long movie and I finished it and I'm crying too hard to see the computer screen, so I'll come back after I've compaosed myself.  :cry: :bawl: :sad: :cloud:
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 09, 2019, 10:29:00 AM
"tissues for dragonflitter* That it's still easy to find the episodes on YouTube amazes me. It feels like they just don't care ha. Funny that FiM lasted through the dawn of copyright coming down on YouTube through the super tricky new copyright system.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Ragamuffin on September 09, 2019, 10:47:02 AM
"tissues for dragonflitter* That it's still easy to find the episodes on YouTube amazes me. It feels like they just don't care ha. Funny that FiM lasted through the dawn of copyright coming down on YouTube through the super tricky new copyright system.

Right?? If there's an episode I want to watch it's pretty easily accessible most of the time. EQG I have had a harder time searching for though...
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on September 09, 2019, 10:51:03 AM
"tissues for dragonflitter* That it's still easy to find the episodes on YouTube amazes me. It feels like they just don't care ha. Funny that FiM lasted through the dawn of copyright coming down on YouTube through the super tricky new copyright system.

Right?? If there's an episode I want to watch it's pretty easily accessible most of the time. EQG I have had a harder time searching for though...

Probably just doesn't get pirated as much ;)
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Dragonflitter on September 09, 2019, 11:18:09 AM
Wow... well I dried my eyes and got all ready to share my thoughts on this awesome finale but... I'm just going to leave instead.  -_- After reading 10 pages of nothing but people ranting about ship this and ship that and complaining about character designs being ugly and saying how bad it was that the ending didn't go the way you wanted it to go.
:yikes:

I thought this thread was going to be a celebration of the end of FiM, and I was all ready to share how much love I feel for this show, how proud I am that it lasted nine years and reached out and touched so many people, how excited I was to see new and old characters come together in this awesome finale.

Did season 9 cover every single thing I wanted to see before the end of FiM? No. It's not like I'm blind to it having any flaws. I would have liked to see more Flurry Heart and Zecora, and have some questions answered that never will be. But I'm not going to sit here and rant about how the show didn't give me what I want and how terrible it has become. No one, not even a whole team of people, can do everything perfectly. Instead of focusing on what YOU wanted, why not appreciate what we got?

But I've noticed it before, almost no one around here wants to look at anything in a positive light when it comes to FiM. People only care about ranting and complaining to each other about how they would have done it better, like people in an old folks home.

It's hard to talk about the things you love when you're surrounded by people who just complain about it all the time. I felt on top of the world watching the finale of FiM, but coming here I just feel like a damp, clammy cloud covered me and took away the excitement I felt. I'm just going to save my write-up about all the amazing things in this finale and take it somewhere else.

:cloud:
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: SaraMari on September 09, 2019, 12:47:57 PM
Dragonflitter, "ranting and complaining to each other about how they would have done it better, like people in an old folks home" not only was that rude it is ageist.

Personally I enjoy here on the Arena people can express critique on G4, whereas in lots of G4 groups it seems like they really gloss over the bad things of FiM

I have not enjoyed FiM for several years sadly. The writing was just not that good, too busy adding in things for bronies, damaging friendship "lessons" and a lack of coherent characterization and world building/plot. I'm glad MLP is still going strong, just with so many high quality kids shows nowadays I want to see it reach those levels.

Also one thing I've never liked in any kind of media is pairing characters up just for the sake of having couples/wrapping things up. Especially characters that didn't express romantic interests beforehand.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Galactica on September 09, 2019, 12:59:43 PM
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I'd love a pony of Luster because her colours are awesome, but that would mean Hasbro... making toys of a pony... that isn't Pinkie or Twilight? Yeah, not happening. Maybe we can at least get a proper Celestia-size Princess Twilight now?

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Thee are a few ponies with similar color schemes at least. I was thinking she looked a lot like Honey Rays or Cherry Berry.

As far as design goes I think the kids looked really cute. The combined cutiemarks were fun, like the cheesecake ones for Pinkie/Cheese's kids or Luster Dawn's being a sun that glimmers in the water.

I guess what bothers me a little about Twilightia is how she didn't get her own unique model while all the other Princesses had one (and she used to have one too). Even the kirin leader was more modified than Twilightia who is basically just a recolor with a new hairstyle.

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I also found it weird how Twilight got so big so fast. Like, isn't Luna thousands of years older than her? Why is she still much smaller than Twilight appeared?

I honestly think Twilight would've looked less jarring with Luna's model, as well. But maybe her looking like Celestia was supposed to be more symbolic.

This!  Couldn't they have made a new one? Not a recolor? Ah well.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Ragamuffin on September 09, 2019, 01:05:57 PM
Dragonflitter, "ranting and complaining to each other about how they would have done it better, like people in an old folks home" not only was that rude it is ageist.

Personally I enjoy here on the Arena people can express critique on G4, whereas in lots of G4 groups it seems like they really gloss over the bad things of FiM

I have not enjoyed FiM for several years sadly. The writing was just not that good, too busy adding in things for bronies, damaging friendship "lessons" and a lack of coherent characterization and world building/plot. I'm glad MLP is still going strong, just with so many high quality kids shows nowadays I want to see it reach those levels.

Also one thing I've never liked in any kind of media is pairing characters up just for the sake of having couples/wrapping things up. Especially characters that didn't express romantic interests beforehand.

I was huge huge huge into FiM when it first came out, it was one of my major fandoms. Not just MLP, but FiM itself. I can't say the same about it nowadays. I haven't really watched since season 5. I've watched every premiere/finale and a couple other select episodes but other than that... not really. I really wanted to watch season 9 the whole way through the the synopses were so boring and I heard no one say anything good about them.

I was just thinking earlier about the comics and novels that were released, if those were released back in 2011 I would've eaten them up but now I could care less... I'm so burnt out on these characters and this world.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lilja on September 09, 2019, 01:26:29 PM
It's hard to talk about the things you love when you're surrounded by people who just complain about it all the time. I felt on top of the world watching the finale of FiM, but coming here I just feel like a damp, clammy cloud covered me and took away the excitement I felt. I'm just going to save my write-up about all the amazing things in this finale and take it somewhere else.

 :hug:

While people are of course allowed to and should criticize things, I understand how seeing an overwhelming negativity towards something you like can discourage you from participating in any discussion about it. (Flashbacks to G2 discussion in the late '90s  :biggrin:) Still, I'd guess most people talking about FIM here probably enjoy aspects of it, or they wouldn't have stuck with it all the way to the end. It seems to be human nature to focus on the parts you didn't like or how you think it could've been done better.

I think if you have positive things to say you you should definitely share them to weigh up the negativity. Certainly FIM had a lot of good parts (otherwise it wouldn't have lasted 9 seasons) that should also be highlighted.  :)
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 09, 2019, 01:27:28 PM
I critique out of love. The show hasn't been the same for me since season 4.
Also as far as shipping goes I'm just picky.  :P
I'd love to hear what you loved about the finale, I loved a lot of it too, and I'm sure if I were a person watching in the future just binging the episodes it would please me just fine. I'm...spoiled from fancontent honestly.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Carrehz on September 09, 2019, 01:31:22 PM
Dragonflitter - honestly I thought we were all being calm and not overly "negative"? We're all allowed to have our own opinions after all, we can't all like the same things :p But yeah I didn't think there was all that much complaining on here...

I wonder if part of it is that the super-invested FiM fans that would react the way you want are either a) not members here or b) waiting for the episodes to air officially?

Lilja has a good point too - When you like something, there's only so much you can say about it past "that part was awesome!". But if there's something you thought "hm, that could've been better" about, you can usually find more to say about that, if that makes sense? That could be what's going on here.

And shipping is always a contentious subject, of course x)

Anyway, you should post what you wanted to post anyway, be the change you want to see! ;)
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on September 09, 2019, 07:07:31 PM
People only care about ranting and complaining to each other about how they would have done it better, like people in an old folks home.

Well then just call me Granny Smith :lol:

Post Merge: September 09, 2019, 07:11:49 PM

Still, I'd guess most people talking about FIM here probably enjoy aspects of it, or they wouldn't have stuck with it all the way to the end.

I watched all these episodes multiple times just to complain about them. Isn't that how it works? (Also bought the FiM brushables so I could hatewatch them in realtime) ;)
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lilja on September 10, 2019, 09:20:38 AM
I watched all these episodes multiple times just to complain about them. Isn't that how it works? (Also bought the FiM brushables so I could hatewatch them in realtime) ;)

I totally get that! I'm very prone to pointing out flaws in shows and movies I like, and make fun of them. It seems fine to me, since I feel it's obvious that I like and am invested in what I'm talking about. But sometimes people think I'm just bashing what they like, and take offense. I don't think there was anything wrong with anyone's comments in this thread individually, but taken as a whole it might come off as overly negative to some, I dunno. It's important to keep in mind that we all see things from different perspectives. :)
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Zapper on September 10, 2019, 11:38:45 AM
I watched all these episodes multiple times just to complain about them. Isn't that how it works? (Also bought the FiM brushables so I could hatewatch them in realtime) ;)

I totally get that! I'm very prone to pointing out flaws in shows and movies I like, and make fun of them. It seems fine to me, since I feel it's obvious that I like and am invested in what I'm talking about. But sometimes people think I'm just bashing what they like, and take offense. I don't think there was anything wrong with anyone's comments in this thread individually, but taken as a whole it might come off as overly negative to some, I dunno. It's important to keep in mind that we all see things from different perspectives. :)

I was being ironic in case it didn't quite translate into text. I enjoy watching FiM and I often watch an older episode before going to sleep as a way to calm down.

I think this thread is overall more negative than positive but we are all MLP fans in the end. If we can't talk about what we find iffy or negative in MLP -that we love - who can?

Also, I don't see how anyone in this thread tried to put down what others enjoyed. There are MLP communities out there where any differing opinion is met with threats. The Arena is a place were I can voice my concerns and crack my jokes without people trying to find out where I live to hunt me down :lookround:
So that's why I am often ranting about FiM in here.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Lilja on September 10, 2019, 12:24:42 PM
Quote from: Zapper
I was being ironic in case it didn't quite translate into text.

It came across fine, and everything you say makes perfect sense. It's just me trying to walk the line of being snarky about things but also making sure this place is welcoming to all types of MLP fans. Since at least one person felt discouraged to post their positive response to the episode due to all the negativity, I worried a bit about contributing to that.

But having clarified this, I hope people with a more positive reaction feel more encouraged to talk about what they liked too.  :)
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: Al-1701 on September 10, 2019, 06:37:48 PM
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I think what really irks me about the Grogar twist is that I've been liking him.  I even told someone on this forum who was tepid about him that things were going well with them.  Then they pull this twist and it all comes crashing down.  It feel like those twists done by writers who want to believe they're the smartest person in the room.  "You think this is the real Grogar?  Surprise!  It was really Discord!"  After watching Game of Thrones go down in flames, I can't wait for their decade to be behind us.  Hopefully we will get back to smart writing and not smart with a vulgar addition writing.
Title: Re: Season 9 Finale on Dutch Streaming Site
Post by: otocolobus_manul on September 12, 2019, 10:51:16 AM
Wait

I just realized something

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Since Grogar was Discord all along...

Discord was literally just playing Goat Simulator this entire season

Post Merge: September 12, 2019, 10:58:33 AM

It's hard to talk about the things you love when you're surrounded by people who just complain about it all the time. I felt on top of the world watching the finale of FiM, but coming here I just feel like a damp, clammy cloud covered me and took away the excitement I felt. I'm just going to save my write-up about all the amazing things in this finale and take it somewhere else.

 :hug:

While people are of course allowed to and should criticize things, I understand how seeing an overwhelming negativity towards something you like can discourage you from participating in any discussion about it. (Flashbacks to G2 discussion in the late '90s  :biggrin:) Still, I'd guess most people talking about FIM here probably enjoy aspects of it, or they wouldn't have stuck with it all the way to the end. It seems to be human nature to focus on the parts you didn't like or how you think it could've been done better.

I think if you have positive things to say you you should definitely share them to weigh up the negativity. Certainly FIM had a lot of good parts (otherwise it wouldn't have lasted 9 seasons) that should also be highlighted.  :)

Honestly, for several seasons I had to just quit reading the threads on here about FiM episodes. They brought me down too much and ruined my enjoyment of the show. Not blaming anyone, that's a personal problem based on insecurity and assuming everyone else knows better than me, and thankfully I seem to have at least in part moved past it. So I get what you mean, but ultimately I'd say that if this thread makes you unhappy, you should probably stop checking it and instead find a more positive one. I mainly just post my opinions and leave at this point - I know most people aren't gonna feel as positive towards FiM as I am, and I don't particularly want to read negative comments about the show.
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