I hope this leads to a revival of the playline dolls!
I hope this leads to a revival of the playline dolls!
Evidently there will be! I just hope that they’re not the reboot dolls
I hope this leads to a revival of the playline dolls!
Evidently there will be! I just hope that they’re not the reboot dolls
They won't be but they won't be the originals either. It's going to be a new reboot. I'm hoping they do a good job.
I hope this leads to a revival of the playline dolls!
Evidently there will be! I just hope that they’re not the reboot dolls
They won't be but they won't be the originals either. It's going to be a new reboot. I'm hoping they do a good job.
Exactly. I'm just hoping that they look decent. If so I'm definitely buying them! Hopefully they're closer to the original rather than like Barbie now -_-
I personally hope they take the good things of both the original series and the reboot and maybe throw in something new. For example I liked how they added molded details to the bodies like scales on Lagoona and fur on Clawdeen. I especially liked the molded stitches on some of the Frankies and was forever sad that she never had an articulated doll with them.I would love if they used articulated versions of the molded detail G2 bodies
*sigh* way too Limited Edition. I would buy them right off the shelves IF they weren't like $80+Probably doesn’t matter but she is $60…
I really regret not getting the Cleo/Ghoulia set too :( Didn't have the funds at the time and now they're so hard to find...
OMG yes, Godzilla and Mothra would be great! Especially Mothra, I bet she'd translate really well into the MH style :lovey:
Sorry if this is old news (I don't have an Instagram account, I usually get my dolly news from here lol) but it looks like Monster High is officially getting a fullscale reboot + new cartoon (and live action movie? uh) next year!
https://www.youloveit.com/dolls/1787-now-official-monster-high-coming-back-with-animated-series-and-live-action-movie-on-nickelodeon-in-2022.html
I hope the dolls are good. Interesting that Clawdeen seems to be the protagonist this time round, instead of Frankie.. I wonder why? No complaints here anyway, Clawdeen's my favourite out of the original/core characters ^^
They say they want to push diversity. I think that's a key part of what MH was originally, but whether they really mean it or not will depend on whether Ghoulia comes back/is changed and how they handle it. Another reason I disliked the last reboot was her removal. I don't know for sure why she was removed, but she represented those who communicate differently, and those kids need a role model too. Especially at the moment.
They say they want to push diversity. I think that's a key part of what MH was originally, but whether they really mean it or not will depend on whether Ghoulia comes back/is changed and how they handle it. Another reason I disliked the last reboot was her removal. I don't know for sure why she was removed, but she represented those who communicate differently, and those kids need a role model too. Especially at the moment.
Tbh it's the same reason Applejack always got left out. Her color scheme wasn't marketable enough. She was more a favorite of adult collectors than little girls and there's more of them than there is of us. While I'd love if Ghoulia returned, I'd also be ok if they added a new character that filled the same role. Tbh I kinda liked how in the reboot Frankie got some of Ghoulia's traits because it made her more interesting but I wish she'd gotten more than just the smart nerdiness.
They say they want to push diversity. I think that's a key part of what MH was originally, but whether they really mean it or not will depend on whether Ghoulia comes back/is changed and how they handle it. Another reason I disliked the last reboot was her removal. I don't know for sure why she was removed, but she represented those who communicate differently, and those kids need a role model too. Especially at the moment.
Tbh it's the same reason Applejack always got left out. Her color scheme wasn't marketable enough. She was more a favorite of adult collectors than little girls and there's more of them than there is of us. While I'd love if Ghoulia returned, I'd also be ok if they added a new character that filled the same role. Tbh I kinda liked how in the reboot Frankie got some of Ghoulia's traits because it made her more interesting but I wish she'd gotten more than just the smart nerdiness.
Applejack sold better here than some of the others, most notably Pinkie Pie. It's my impression that it was the bronies who dissed AJ, not the kids. It's certainly the G4 fans I've seen most of the negatives from but I've seen and heard kids in stores here asking specifically for AJ. I never heard a single kid ask for Pinkie Pie. It's true that older collectors probably liked her more and showed here favour, but I didn't ever see that from the bronies.
I didn't like any part of Frankie coopting the smart aspect of Ghoulia. I've said it before, but Ghoulia worked as a character not just because she communicated differently but becadue she broke the mould, being a smart zombie. Something that wasn't the standard. Frankie didn't add anything in that regard in G2. She was just smarter. And while it made sense n context with Frankenstein and all. But it was so bland it didn't really push any
I was talking about Frankenstein, which is the name Frankie Stein came from. Not his monster. :) Smart Frankie combined both concepts.
Not sure what you mean about marketers and AJ, or in fact, Ghoulia. Is there some data that I'm missing?
I was talking about Frankenstein, which is the name Frankie Stein came from. Not his monster. :) Smart Frankie combined both concepts.
Not sure what you mean about marketers and AJ, or in fact, Ghoulia. Is there some data that I'm missing?
I just mean like the "girls must like pink" kind of ridiculousness. AJ and Ghoulia were probably the least "girly" in their respective franchises.
I might have linked it wrong, I'm not great with Instagram honestly. Does this one work?
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Yeah, the first dolls were these three, Cleo, Lagoona and Deuce. Then I think the next two were Ghoulia and Holt? I'd definitely expect Ghoulia to be added in sooner rather than later.
I guess you mean Abby as literally the coolest?? xD
I liked her, she amused me xD. Although her eating out of date sweets was gross. xD
I feel like with the dolls specifically, it's often a particular version of the doll from a particular set that I end up grabbing. I'm kind of picky even with my favourites.
I really like the Gloom and Bloom line. Especially Cleo and Jinafire. I'm not too crazy about either as characters though. And Ghoulia is my favourite, but I don't like or have all the Ghoulia dolls. The original and the Sweet Screams are my favourites, probably.
I like Abby the character but there are only a couple of Abby dolls I really like.
I love Lagoona and Rochelle as dolls but their hair is so often sticky, it makes me sad.
I don't even own Clawdeen, I don't think O.o. I may only have Lala because there is a Japanese themed one. But I have a few Frankies...
As a kid I hated pink things. As an adult I don't. I'm typing this sitting on my bed which is currently covered in a fluffy pink duvet. But I've never understood the pink drive.
Oh, the moth girl. Her doll is very pretty :D So is Isi. I don't know if Isi even has a character. I don't remember her at all...
I like them but not enough to spend $75 each on them. I’m glad of the reboot but wonder what quality/prices we’ll get playline if these are $75. Cleo would probably be the only one I get, if any.
Taffeta, you are so lucky to have snagged that Ghoulia Cleo set from 2017. I honestly would be happy just to get that Cleo. Cleo is my favorite doll to collect.
I like them but not enough to spend $75 each on them. I’m glad of the reboot but wonder what quality/prices we’ll get playline if these are $75. Cleo would probably be the only one I get, if any.
Taffeta, you are so lucky to have snagged that Ghoulia Cleo set from 2017. I honestly would be happy just to get that Cleo. Cleo is my favorite doll to collect.
Why is matel deliberately pricing out little kids?
I like them but not enough to spend $75 each on them. I’m glad of the reboot but wonder what quality/prices we’ll get playline if these are $75. Cleo would probably be the only one I get, if any.
Taffeta, you are so lucky to have snagged that Ghoulia Cleo set from 2017. I honestly would be happy just to get that Cleo. Cleo is my favorite doll to collect.
Why is matel deliberately pricing out little kids?
these are COLLECTOR dolls, that's why ;)
Congrats guys!
I'm thinking hard about it! :lol: But I don't think I will. I love my Frankies but I don't know if I want to spend another $60 for this one. I hope this one goes away soon so I can stop being tempted. :lol: :lol: :lol:
And she's out! Did anyone else get one? :D She's still in stock surprisingly, I thought for sure she'd be gone by now (Greta sold out in 4 mins IIRC). Maybe Mattel have actually listened to collectors for once and have stocked more than usual?
Congrats guys!
I'm thinking hard about it! :lol: But I don't think I will. I love my Frankies but I don't know if I want to spend another $60 for this one. I hope this one goes away soon so I can stop being tempted. :lol: :lol: :lol:
My Draculaura is on her way and my Clawdeen has just arrived! She’s so cool, I’m super happy!
I’m waiting for the next release :biggrin:
Monster High’s live-action movie is a freaky, fang-tastic musical - Polygon
https://www.polygon.com/23189621/monster-high-live-action-musical-trailer
Well then.
Monster High’s live-action movie is a freaky, fang-tastic musical - Polygon
https://www.polygon.com/23189621/monster-high-live-action-musical-trailer
Well then.
"My name's Frankie, projouns: they/them"
What. Frankie is very obviously female, they didn't even try making her look androgynous? So why?
This looks like it had no real money put into. The special effects look like it came out in 2015. This movie is several years too late and tries too hard to do "current teen trend" such as the introduction with pronouns stuff. Frankie's pronouns don't even exist in several languages so I am curious how this is gonna get translated.
Mattel is doing a Barbie movie with a Hollywood star directed by an Oscar Winner and for MH we just get... this. It's Jem all over again, isn't it.
Monster High’s live-action movie is a freaky, fang-tastic musical - Polygon
https://www.polygon.com/23189621/monster-high-live-action-musical-trailer
Well then.
"My name's Frankie, projouns: they/them"
What. Frankie is very obviously female, they didn't even try making her look androgynous? So why?
This looks like it had no real money put into. The special effects look like it came out in 2015. This movie is several years too late and tries too hard to do "current teen trend" such as the introduction with pronouns stuff. Frankie's pronouns don't even exist in several languages so I am curious how this is gonna get translated.
Mattel is doing a Barbie movie with a Hollywood star directed by an Oscar Winner and for MH we just get... this. It's Jem all over again, isn't it.
Monster High’s live-action movie is a freaky, fang-tastic musical - Polygon
https://www.polygon.com/23189621/monster-high-live-action-musical-trailer
Well then.
"My name's Frankie, projouns: they/them"
What. Frankie is very obviously female, they didn't even try making her look androgynous? So why?
The actor who is portraying Frankie is trans so that might be why.
The obviously Normie teacher. He's a VERY good candidate for Jackson Jekyll/Holt Hyde and I am betting that's who he is supposed to be. If they make him Viktor 'Sparky' Frankenstein I'm calling nonsense.
It just doesn't seem to gel with MH's original message of being freaky-fabulous, I don't know what they're going for in this story. Plus, we covered the 'there's a normie in here' aspect in Ghouls Rule; it was Jackson, and he IS technically a monster, just with a normie side.
Just saw it’s been confirmed Ghoulia talks normally.
Oof.
WILL there be new dolls released in time for the movie? Or tie-in dolls? It kinda feels like a feeler for how interested people are in MH, which is sad because the film doesn't showcase what made MH so popular in the first place
I don't get the sorceress thing either... Why does she have to be a vampire AND a witch? If they wanted a witch char why not bring Casta back, or again just make a new character? She feels more like a Bratzillaz character honestly. (Lol, didn't a lot of the Bratzillaz have two-coloured hair with the colours split down the middle, too?)
Really don't like what they're doing with Frankie, I was mostly planning on buying her but gosh, the shaved head, too many colors on her outfit (the leaked doll didn't look that good) and male voice actor? No thank you.
I'm also not doing the "you have to refer to Frankie as plural now!" - my brain just can't handle it.
What's throwing me off about Cleo's new skintone is that it almost looks like she's literally bronze, like a statue. Shiny. Not sure if that's what they're going for or if the lighting/shining/whatever in that pic is just a bit off or w/e. I mean I guess it'd be interesting if she IS meant to be like a statue now, I just want to know if that *is* the idea or if I'm just seeing things :P
I guess they've broken up Cleo and Deuce so there's no need for a connection there... or at least, they'd broken up in the Haunt Couture diaries...
SDCC 2022 Frankie (https://www.youloveit.com/dolls/2609-mattel-san-diego-comic-con-2022-monster-high-exclusives.html)
B+W version of Power Ghouls Frankie (Voltageous). She's nice enough but not my thing personally, I didn't really care for the original Voltageous either though. Kinda burned out on the black-and-white versions of the dolls too. But it's cool to see we're getting a SDCC doll already, I guess. She's pretty, just not my style.
I'm sad to see them broken up too!! At first I thought "okay, they seem to be leading up to something here, let's just see where they're going with it..." but then G3 turned out to be a reboot/separate continuity/whatever, so now I don't know WHAT to think. They were MH's power couple, they were together right from the start!! I hope there is a second wave of HC that wraps the story up somehow :(
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SDCC 2022 Frankie (https://www.youloveit.com/dolls/2609-mattel-san-diego-comic-con-2022-monster-high-exclusives.html)
B+W version of Power Ghouls Frankie (Voltageous). She's nice enough but not my thing personally, I didn't really care for the original Voltageous either though. Kinda burned out on the black-and-white versions of the dolls too. But it's cool to see we're getting a SDCC doll already, I guess. She's pretty, just not my style.
Deuce Gorgon doll (Amazon exclusive)
Ghoulia Yelps doll (Target exclusive)
Toralei Stripe doll (Walmart exclusive)
Frankie and Deuce 2 pack doll set
Creepover Party dolls
Skulltimate Secrets dolls
Gore-ganizer with Draculaura doll
This Monster High doll and playset inspires spooktastic storytelling and styling play with a posable Monster High doll, lots of accessories that inspire storytelling and styling play, and a carrying case with a monsterric look and a compartments to help keep pieces organized.
Beauty salon playset with Lagoona Blue doll
This Monster High doll and beauty playset inspires spooktastic styling for both the doll and kids with hair chalk and 20+ hair accessories that fit into the included shell-shaped case. The doll wears a fintastic loungewear look and has a face mask and an eye mask for spa day play.
Monster High Bedroom Playset
Monster High car playset 2022
(no descs for these two)
does anyone know if the MH Reef Drama dolls will be a Target exclusive? or will they be sold on the mattel website?
does anyone know if the MH Reef Drama dolls will be a Target exclusive? or will they be sold on the mattel website?
EDIT: I really think I'll need to get ALL members of this, I REALLY hope they release all six original ghouls (YES INCLUDING GHOULIA) and I really really REALLY super-hope we get characters like Abbey as well! I would KILL for a Catty Noir in this style![/color]
EDIT: I really think I'll need to get ALL members of this, I REALLY hope they release all six original ghouls (YES INCLUDING GHOULIA) and I really really REALLY super-hope we get characters like Abbey as well! I would KILL for a Catty Noir in this style![/color]
Well Abbey's trademark has just been renewed, along with a few others (most random being Hexiciah, Robecca's dad!) but if this is for G3 or a new Creeproduction we'll have to wait and see~!
I do feel a little vindicated about Ghoulia returning, but if she starts speaking in standard English then it will probably bother me.
I don't want to comment too much on the others given that I'm sure they're observations people have already made all the way up the thread, but is there a reason why Frankie with Deuce in a 2 pack?
This is my burning question. It startled me!
Do we know why they decided to go pink with Lagoona BLUE? :/
Valeria Rodriquez (The Valley of Tears) as Spectra Vondergeist – This ghostly girl makes up for her translucent appearance by being super chatty. She just wants to be seen!
Scott Menville (Teen Titans Go!) as Romulus – Romulus is the current head of the were pack at Monster High, though he's still got a bit of learning and growing to do.
Cole Massie (Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers) as Finnegan Wake – Charming and chill, Finnegan is a merman who uses a wheelchair to get around on land. He has a beautiful singing voice, just like his aunties, the sirens.
Victoria T Washington (Dropouts) as Howleen – Howleen is a natural leader who values integrity over the pack mindset and always speaks her mind.
Jordan R. Coleman (A Million Little Things) as Manny Taur – Big, bull-headed Manny looks like a brute, but he's the gentlest kid at school. With his penchant for solving puzzles, he's one of the only students that can compete with Draculaura for honors as a top student.
Krystina Alabado (Sesame Street Mecha Builders) as Nefera De Nile – Nefera is the mummy who has it all – beauty, popularity, royalty, and a heart of gold (literally, she dipped her heart in gold and keeps it in a jar).
Lagoona looks better than her sig doll, but I still don't like those forehead scales...First of all :hug: It feels nice to be remembered. I completely agree with you on this. The hat helps. (Heh, sorry Goona baby.) Ah yeah, shelf warmer skull shores Ghoulia. What a shame. I thought she was redeemed with her SDCC releases, but now as Frankie Jr? Meh. They should have at least given her more of an underbite and non-brown brows. :shrug:
They really are going at it with the releases mind you. That's quite a lot of dolls for a relaunch right at the start.I was thinking that too! They’re sure jumping in with both feet, eh? Well we’ll see how it goes.
NEFERA has a HEART OF GOLD? ... Did Nefera write that???Hahahahaha! I’m dying. For real though! Maybe she’s worked on herself. :snicker:
I think Lala looks weird because of her bangs. They are much too long… I’m toying with the idea of trimming them. I saw someone cut them into normal bangs- I like the widow’s peak, but it did look very good. Actually, I pushed her bangs out of the way and she is STUNNING without them, omg. It changes her face entirely. I like both ways but do feel the bangs hinder her natural beauty- I’ll take a pic if anyone’s interested!
Also, MASCARAH I TOTALLY REMEMBER YOU!!
I was… Esbayne on the MHArena! XD
I miss it so much too.
I watched that live action movie tonight because it premiered and I was morbidly (hah) curious.
……….uh.
………
Frankie was adorable. I love their new character.
Abbey had a cute costume.
The…. Cuckoo clock was cool.
…………….
That’s all I have that’s good to say.
Can I just say I keep trying to call Goreganizer Lala "Gorgonzola Lala".:lmao:
Just wish they wouldn't price out kids, that's unfair.
I like it. It's classic, nice to see Frankie's parents. Just wish they wouldn't price out kids, that's unfair.
Mattel Releasing 'Bride of Frankenstein' Skullector Dolls from Monster High | All Hallows Geek
https://www.allhallowsgeek.com/mattel-releasing-bride-of-frankenstein-skullector-dolls-from-monster-high/
Congrats Esbayne :)
The Twyla does look pretty. But wow, they keep on coming, don't they??
ETA - saw a trailer for the live action MH film today. Discovered it was somewhere in my cable subscription packages so watched it.SpoilerThere's a lot of very cringey awkward moments in it, frankly. Ghoulia is basically not Ghoulia. I really kept watching it pretty much only for Frankie, who I actually really enjoyed. I am not quite sure what was going on with Lala's swift character switcharound and Cleo, just generally. There's not a lot of character depth going down in that film, but Frankie was cool.
The less said about Lagoona the better.
I still don't get theSpoilerhuman/werewolf Clawdeen thing. Aren't werewolves part human to begin with? :silly:
I still don't get theSpoilerhuman/werewolf Clawdeen thing. Aren't werewolves part human to begin with? :silly:
That sucks that everything's being plagued by scalpers :( I wish shops would figure out a way to stop that already.
Mattel Creations are running a fan vote poll thing to decide who the next collector doll will be! It looks like there'll be a different category to vote on each week, so this week we decide the character, next week we vote on hair + makeup, etc. Going to be interesting to see how things shake out here.
https://creations.mattel.com/pages/monster-high-fang-vote
The characters in the poll are Robecca, Venus and Rochelle. Disappointed to not see anyone else (I was hoping for Toralei!) but oh well. I voted for Rochelle. Who are you guys voting for? :)
I just did the conversion, and that means they cost like an extra 15% there, sheesh. Hopefully they’re cheaper in stores than amazon uk.
I STILL don't like that film over Cleo's eyes, it makes it look like there's a sheet of protective plastic I need to peel off to show the real colour underneath!
"Am I guaranteed the chance to purchase each version of the member-exclusive items?
Since all items offered as member exclusives are limited in the quantities produced (excluding made-to-order items), we can’t guarantee every member will be able to purchase each of the items. Your membership does include access to a priority window for select sales that gives members the opportunity to purchase items on Mattel Creations before non-members. In the drop page for each sale, we’ll specify when the priority window begins, if such an opportunity exists. Note that the priority window time may vary, but may only last as long as the item remains available; once the item has sold out, the priority window ends.
Additionally, members may have the chance to purchase exclusive made-to-order items — available ONLY to Fang Club members. For these items, we produce only the quantity ordered by members, so as long as you place an order for one of these items within the priority window for ordering, you’ll receive one.
NOTE: Membership only guarantees the opportunity to purchase any item we offer; it does NOT guarantee an actual purchase. Also, having an item in your Shopping Cart does NOT guarantee the item is still available and does NOT guarantee an actual purchase. Your purchase is only confirmed once you have both completed your Shop transaction AND received an order number."
Though a majority of people I saw in another online MH community were complaining in every direction about this, how scummy it is, etc, but then ending the post with, "But of course I still bought it anyway because I'm afraid I'll miss out even if I don't like them."
I don’t plan to do the club. It sounds kind of neat but, I would hate to miss out on a doll after paying $10.
I think they are, yeah. Pretty sure she's had worm earrings before.
Apparently she sold out in less than 24 hrs.
The rest of the lineup for 2023 -> https://www.instagram.com/p/CuGPmlOohUX/
Apparently we're getting Venus and Catty as a part of the core line, two NEW characters as a part of the Midnight Runway line (aside from Spectra), a new SDCC doll, and two more Fang Club exclusives!
I really want to see Venus!
The pets!!! Awwww!
I'm embarrassed to say that even though I love all the new doll designs, I have an incredible weak spot for Draculaura and so far she's the only one I've succumbed to. Goreganizer is still my favorite. The others are just not measuring up.
For me, I think the fact this gen and the gen before are scewing younger tends to take a lot of edge out of the design. The ghouls seem way younger compared to the original ghouls, and it just seems that the old theme of 'high school kids look WAY older than they are to elementary school kids' (or secondary to primary, for us UK ghouls) that a lot of toys and movies went with has been done away with
Hey I just noticed..
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Who's the fourth character on the "Reunion Tour" poster?also Meowlody's silhouette appears to be missing its tail
Maybe a hint at a new character? Catty? *crosses fingers*
As for the collector dolls (so many at once :O omg):
- Clawdeen's really pretty, but I'm not sure I'll be adding her to my collection. I think I would if she's released over here, unfortunately I doubt that'll happen (we never got the last Holiday doll). Love her box design.
- Skelita's really pretty, but too similar to the previous collector Skelita for my taste. Plus I've never really been a Skelita person.
- Draculaura's GORGEOUS... but again reminds me quite a bit of the G1 collector Laura from a while ago, the one with the big eyelashes and chest joint? Either way... absolutely stunning, but not for me.
Going back to what I said about the dolls looking cheap - I wasn't meaning that they are badly made. Just that the choice of pallette/plastic colouring makes them look like that to me. The colours seem less nuanced and harsher, and yes, the designs are a lot more 'safe'.
What is up with the G3 pets getting species-changed for no reason? Clawdeen now has a wolf instead of a cat, Draculaura has a cat? dog? with bat wings instead of a bat, the new Venus will allegedly have this:
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I hope this prototype gets tossed. It looks like Chewlian swallowed the cheshire cat.
I still have a huge soft spot for G1 media.
G3 Toralei and Ghoulia have FINALLY hit UK stores! I saw them both at Smyths Toys last week. Still can't click with G3 Ghoulia... she's so different, I wish they'd just gone ahead and given her a different name instead of trying to "remake"
When G1 did "representation", they didn't beat you over the head with it, the character didn't feel like a token.
For me the more important aspect has always been that despite her different communication, she wasn't excluded by her peers - who all understood her fine. Cleo is the kind of queen bee character who in real life bullies kids who are different, but although she can be spoiled and demanding on Ghoulia's time, she also understands her and appreciates her friendship as well. Kids who are different need to see that being different really doesn't matter. OG Ghoulia was intelligent, active, included in things. She was still part of the group despite being different - she was still accepted for who she was, rather than being forced to change or conform.
It was like "Well G1 Ghoulia was okay but we wanted to do representation Very Deliberately! But don't worry we'll add a non-verbal character too!!!"
Forgot to add this, this just sounds very corporate and by the numbers. Oh, you want non-verbal? We have that in the works. In the meantime, enjoy the wheelchair merman. He's handicapped! You love this, yes?It's a lot like that. Disability representation falls into one of three categories really. 1: "inspirational!" 2: "here's a wheelchair in the background, lol, we ticked that box" and 3: "The Odd One Out"
Just bought my first G3 MH doll yesterday, Monster Ball Draculaura. So excited for her to get here!
The odds of a Ghoulia and Slow-Mo one are slim, despite being an OG, consistant couple
If she had that head on a different body, she might have been a must-buy
I don't really have an opinion on the decision to make Catty plus size, aside the potential original reasons for choosing her...if true.
But overall I think they've done a decent job on what they set out to do...I just do wonder if it was the right character to do it to as it feels a bit more like "we've done this because we want to look inclusive, but don't really have a backstory to it". A new character would've been a chance to create someone unique.
This makes me wonder, has anyone done any G3/G1 bodyswaps? Like, a G3 head on a G1 body, or vice versa. In general, I mean, not specifically Catty. That'd be interesting, but I don't think I've seen it anywhere...
As I said, I don't hate the design. I just don't really feel why Catty, as opposed to anyone else. I'd have been fine with a plus sized Ghoulia if she'd still spoken zombie...but this is a bit..."tick box."
This conversation also makes me wonder if Goofy is a werewolf.
It may also be possible for her to wear some of the tops from the others, depending on if they have sleeves.
Selling Catty with a wardrobe of outfits (for her stage show) would also help that, but if they're going to go there with one doll, they need to do it with more (or have multiple of the same character) to enable dress up play.
...Again, this brings it back to 'why Catty'. If you make it Lala or one of the other main cast, then you are going to release that character often. That will mean multiple outfit options by default. Are there going to be multiple release options for Catty in G3?
I still don't get the broken heart, it makes me wonder if they'll give her a storyline about being unlucky in love or whatever.
I just think it's lazy to give another pink and black doll a heart motif.
Twyla's autism had me screaming/laughing because everyone told me she was such great representation but the moment she appears she just says: "Ok, so I am autistic". Don't get me wrong, it's great they show her being sensitive to noise and it goes well with her being into books because the library is a place of silence. But that dialogue...
Taffeta, yes Twyla is the chosen one :lol:
One of her dolls actually comes with noise cancelling earbuds which is cute. They pretty much chopped up G1 Ghoulia's personality and spread it out to Frankie and Twyla. Twyla also inherited the interest in board games.
About the speech being for kids... I don't doubt that. It was just cringe. At that point I had also watched the Abbey centric episode and Draculaura says "we have to support and uplift the yetis" or whatever, and I cringed pretty hard at that, too, because it's word choice that you would expect from adults talking on Twitter/X. MH was always talking about inclusivity and "freaky flaws" but it was put in monsteriffic terms and made kinda fun for kids. It wasn't so dry.
Carrehz, I think I can explain that Neptuna :cool:
It's a toy Lagoona uses in the cartoon to calm her nerves. It has the super creative name of Señor Squeaky. It's obviously based on G1 Neptuna but the eyes bug out since this is a feature of the toy when Lagoona squeezes it.
as well as being a black cat (which is funny and a bit annoying as black cats are considered LUCKY in the UK, it always irritates me seeing that. Not every dang country thinks that, America, stop it!!!)
I just noticed the MH youtube channel has a mind control compilation... wtf.
The best autism representation I've seen is when it is completely unintentional.
The mind control thing made me think immediately of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIslDJZAxxg
I immediately thought 'someone on the team is either incredibly naive or knows precisely what they're doing.
Trust me, they are not... I wish!Which part? Price or import fees? I know that I don't have to worry about any toys I buy from countries outside the US having any custom fees.
For reference, toys are officially classified with the HS Code 9503.00.00, under the U.S. Harmonized Tariff Schedule. They are generally duty free, though the Merchandise Processing Fee and Harbor Maintenance Fee will still apply.
https://www.flexport.com/help/212-importing-toys-united-states/
Generally, the HTS Code for the toys is 9503.00.00. This includes:
Tricycles, scooters, pedal cars and similar wheeled toys
Dollsʼ carriages; dolls, other toys
Reduced-scale (“scaleˮ) models and similar recreational models, working or not
Puzzles of all kinds
Parts and accessories thereof
For all of the products mentioned above, the current US duty rate is 0%.
I admit, I am fundamentally opposed to dolls with short hair because of the styling limitations xD.
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My eye was caught rather by the Spectra images on the side. It is good that she is coming back. I never understood the weirdness of G2 around her.
I bet it’s ghost pepper hot sauce, lol
EDIT: Saw a different photo, it is, lol
I love the Rainbow High dolls because their hair is brilliant for styling. The negative comments on hair and styling for the MH dolls is another reason I'm steering clear of G3. I only have so much room, and RH has taken over the rest of my 2nd MH shelf. Original Ghoulia is still there, though. Standing proud :)
I have no idea what the obsession is with Lala. I thought Clawdeen was the main ghoul in this version?
I'm still not quite sure what it is about G3 Lala dolls that seems off to me, aside the fringe...just something.
I don't really get why the Skulltimate series is so popular, I hate not being able to see the doll before I buy her :/This! I want to see if they have nice root jobs and face screenings first. It annoys me.
Some other comments are going 'it's for kids, not for you'.
Yes, but that doesn't mean older ghouls can't go who the heckity heck is this???
Taffeta, I'm seeing comments saying she is supposed to look like a jade sculpture and the golden ears are based on particular jewelry. I'm not versed in Ancient China but I simply don't understand why these changes were necessary when the original doll sold well. We'll see how the final doll will look like, we'll be getting her later that year (maybe she'll be revealed soon).I have a feeling there are some other shades of Jade (the stone) as well as the green one, but even if that's the inspiration, that's not jade colour. That's playdoh/sims alien colour.
I just can't get over the Gremlin comparisons :lol:
I think Jinafire was a pun on Jennifer, combining the common name Jin with, well, fire although fire is more a Western dragon thing.
That is a nice photo of a toy lamp. I hope that means it will be a ghost.
I wish they'd leave more time between the announcement/reveal and the actual sale :/ Not just to give you more time to raise funds (not everyone can drop that sort of money no questions asked, Mattel!!!) but also to give time to actually THINK about it... that sort of money is a considered purchase for me (and I imagine many others too!), and just in general sometimes you need more than 3-4 days to make a decision, you know? :s But if you don't jump on it at the time, you run the risk of missing it and having to fork out scalper prices later. Sigh.
OMG YOU HAVE RUINED MY LIFE BY MAKING HER DRESS BLOO!"
The FOMO thing is also an issue. If the companies are so desperate to get something out at speed before people forget it exists, and people are so desperate to spend money without thinking about it...that's not massively healthy. Toys in general are stupid expensive now. But I don't know about this one.
But I suppose it's more like, if you wanted to still do G1, Mattel, maybe go back to doing G1 and stop trying to scalp collectors on new characters that you didn't release when dolls were retail price point and not collectable treasures...
"OMG YOU HAVE RUINED MY LIFE BY MAKING HER DRESS BLOO!"
I also think the people who are behind 'creative concepts' like character backstories are not actually very creative. There are a lot of quick generic tropes that get churned out these days without much substance. Throw out whatever works, sell the item, onto the next. There's no attempt to really build beyond that point. This new doll is like that. She's not part of an existing world becuase the world is gone. So why bother going into depth? It seems like they're already struggling with depth in the new toyline. Probably no time to worry about a one off collector shiny.
I just want a playline rochelle... that's all...
To explain a little, since I saw the livestream segment that went a little more into why Rebecca Shipman designed Lenore this way... the new series is basically the inhouse MH designers putting their original characters into doll form. For Rebecca her OC Lenore was inspired by the spiderwebs in her garden. It made her think of a friendly ghost who'd wander about and guide the creatures of the garden.
I want to make a few things clear: Lenore is not a self-insert. She is an original character similar to the Off-White dolls. Nobody said "how are these supermodel characters gonna end up at Monster High?" They are one-offs like Lenore. They're just dolls, they didn't get diaries either, just a small fact sheet such as what monster they are and what their names are.
I think a lot of people got confused by the "brand new character for G1" thing and are now judging much harsher. G1 is getting new comic books and novels, it's not dead. So Lenore could make an appearance in those but I doubt it.
I can understand fans being legitimately critical of adding new characters to G1 when G1 is essentially no longer the core of the line. That's not the same as being jerks, of course, but my own reaction was, but why does G1 need a new ghost character when it's not really an active toyline? Why should a collector care about a character that didn't exist in G1 enough to pay that kind of money?
Unless this is their way of seeing if people are interested in new G1 characters, I suppose... doesn't entirely make sense to me, but we all know companies work in their own, mysterious ways :P
Unless this is their way of seeing if people are interested in new G1 characters, I suppose... doesn't entirely make sense to me, but we all know companies work in their own, mysterious ways :P
Mhhh I don't know. Because they have already introduced more new characters in the new G1 comics. Valentine is bi or gay now and has a boyfriend. Fans want the boyfriend to get a doll and I bet if Mattel did that all these naysayers would pay $75.
I thought Holt’s face looked really weird. But G1 Deuce and Heath looked pretty good. It was their outfits I hated.
Congrats!!!!!! I really hope Creeproduction Abbey somehow comes over here!Yes, hopefully!
Unless this is their way of seeing if people are interested in new G1 characters, I suppose... doesn't entirely make sense to me, but we all know companies work in their own, mysterious ways :P
Mhhh I don't know. Because they have already introduced more new characters in the new G1 comics. Valentine is bi or gay now and has a boyfriend. Fans want the boyfriend to get a doll and I bet if Mattel did that all these naysayers would pay $75.
Spelldon? He's not new - Garrett's talked about him on his Instagram before, he was an early character they never quite found a use for, but eventually got a mention in Valentine's SDCC diary. He said the diary was meant to explicitly establish Valentine as gay and in love with Spelldon, but Mattel chickened out at the last minute and wouldn't let them do it. (the final diary is still heavy in subtext though) Then G1 ended soon after, before they could do anything else with him.
Garrett posted his concept art for Spelldon at one point, let's see... yeah, here we go:
https://www.instagram.com/garrett_sander/p/CzFq25hL3qu/
I imagine part of why Spelldon's getting a better reception is, well, fans love representation and such... but also because he's been teased a long time ago so it's exciting to see this character finally get properly used. Whereas Lenore's just come out of nowhere. Not that this justifies the stupid reaction to her, I just mean I don't see think the two are comparable.
I like to think Lenore's older/not a MH student, either :)
And Elvira definitely should've gotten a bustier body, no idea what they were playing at there.
Ghoulia creepro is here!!
I never got her original back in the day. Ahhh! I'm excited :freak:
I did end up seeing lots of hate for the creator on a YouTube community post. What is wrong with people??? It’s a doll. No reason to call for someone’s job.
I did end up seeing lots of hate for the creator on a YouTube community post. What is wrong with people??? It’s a doll. No reason to call for someone’s job.
I really don't get why they can't stop attacking her personally.
I also saw a couple Lenore Loomington redesigns making the rounds that were supposed to be better but they were just more cluttered and included details that would have probably blow the budget. At the same time, there is strong rumors that the SDCC doll will be a Sweet Screams Clawdeen. And who designed that beloved line? Rebecca Shipman.
Not to be a meaniepants (who am I kidding, I love being a little mean) but I think the biggest difference anyone can see right away is original Ghoulia's discolored head.
Taffeta's Ghoulia doesn't look discoloured to me...? What an odd thing to say.
Considering it over I think maybe Zapper was talking about the comparison photos on the link Brightberry posted. That one does look a bit discoloured to me?
Considering it over I think maybe Zapper was talking about the comparison photos on the link Brightberry posted. That one does look a bit discoloured to me?
Yep.
Ghoulias with glue seepage often have a yellowed grey tone while the new Ghoulia is without that glue they stopped using so she most likely won't discolor. It's not an odd thing to say at all. I have a poor Skull Shores Ghoulia whose limbs yellowed even. Something in the plastic coating probably oxidized. I also had a Lala with yellow arms. The dolls weren't exposed to direct lunlight or heat. They just aged badly.
I would've thought distribution over there would be on a similar timeline to here, and this is not exactly the cutting edge of new items, LOL :)
I would've thought distribution over there would be on a similar timeline to here, and this is not exactly the cutting edge of new items, LOL :)
I think Smyths UK has a better range than Smyths Germany. We don't have Venus (yes she's the newest character) or the Refresh line (Drac with a hat, Frankie in striped shorts, etc) and we also don't have the wannabe Ghoulia :lol:
Skulltimate Secrets are listed on Smyths UK, as well as Clawdeen/Lala/Frankie's Creeproductions! (https://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/toys/fashion-and-dolls/monster-high/c/SM06010429) - I'm tempted to get a Clawdeen Creeproduction personally. Skulltimate Abbey looks actually kinda nice without that weird head cage on her, I might get her to display without it[/color]
Yeah I'm kind of puzzled why they went with Toradeen. They look cute together, like... aesthetically, and I'm definitely not against either of them liking ladies (lol I'd be a hypocrite if I was, I ship Tora/Catrine and I've always kinda liked Clawdeen/Draculaura), but them liking each other? Personality-wise it seems like an odd pairing? never paid too close attention to any canon past the diaries so idk maybe there's something in a cartoon ep or w/e that hinted towards them... but it seems very random to me tbh ^^;
I would put into that list Venus and Robecca, though right now I'm not quite sure why I think that *LOL*. Just something in one of the animated specials I saw years ago that stuck with me maybe?
I think Robecca and Venus would be a good match, too.
So far I've only seen Venus, but I haven't been to a Smyths in a while. I really want to see Catty! I've seen pics of her redressed and omg she looks SO much better out of her godawful stock dress. They really did a horrible job with her outfit.
Ghoulia meaning business <3Oh Boolittle and Haunted Rochelle are amazing dolls. I wanted Haunted Rochelle but wasn't into paying all the extra shipping costs atop her price.
Will always be out of my price range, though, just like the original.
@Zapper, it would help if we hadn't left the EU as well, because import duty is now a thing and it wasn't before.
I remember when I lived in north London, I'd get the bus to Brent Cross TRU and they'd have all kinds of dolls which they'd pull out from their warehouse sometimes to clearance. I lived there only 2 years but I have three of the ILF exclusives and the fourth was Iris who I didn't want. Sadly not Cleo, but stil. Also picked up a couple of dolls from years earlier.
I found my Jane Boolittle, she's the regular and not the Gloom & Bloom, so I don't have a complete set. She was my first MH doll, though, I'm pretty sure, so I've put her on my shelf :)
I still haven't found Haunted Rochelle. I know she's here somewhere but I'm running out of places to look...
https://www.youloveit.com/dolls/3858-monster-high-skulltimate-secrets-series-5-garden-mysteries-dolls.html
While I wish these massive plastic things would stop... that Venus is amazing. Not in love with all of her items but she reminds me a lot of Music Festival G1 Venus and her babyhairs are vines, so precious. Twyla must be popular because here she is again! I love her spiderweb boots but the flower theme doesn't really suit her, imo. Draculaura should have been Catty.
Speaking of "can't see": at the very least these new Skulltimate boxes give you a small peek at the doll's face inside. You gotta look close but behind the grid/fencing/whatever you can see if the doll might be wonky or not.
This had been my biggest gripe with the old packaging, that there was no way to see the doll.
Lagoona Blue was originally going to be a part of this line and would have been a Target exclusive, but was cut due to retailers looking at the Skulltimate Secrets brand's data and feeling that three dolls were the best number for this line. Despite this, there was a product number and barcode for Lagoona, and retailers were even able to order her. Lagoona is HYT73, which is in between Draculaura’s and Twyla’s product numbers.
These Monster High Foam Bag Clips (https://www.entertainmentearth.com/product/monster-high-3d-foam-bag-clip-display-case-of-24/mg39005aa) popped up on Entertainment Earth. First thing's first; WHERE IS CLAWDEEN??? AND CLEO?????? I'm absolutely shocked they're not there! I absolutely would be interested in a Catty, but I'd need to see the final version
I REALLY hope it's not cancelled, I still want to read it!
Ooooh fun! I love your collection!! <3
I have one of each "signature" so far, minus the Werecat Twins (expensive rn for the pack!! I don't want Toralei or the items they come with so I'm hoping they have single/twin releases later) and Clawd (his glued on ears made me not buy him)
I kick myself sometimes because I end up loving later releases a lot of the time, but my rule for myself is only original/signature releases of unique characters lol. My office, where I keep my dolls, is already floor-ceiling in shelves on almost all walls lol, I have to limit my doll numbers!!
Lady Frostbite, I love Abbey too! I've saved myself from buying but she looks so beautiful, I'm always 2nd guessing.
Spoiler- I do love seeing Headless Headmistress Bloodgood acknowledged! I just love her punny name and nature, and her hatchet earrings are a super-nice touch. Plus it's nice seeing a fictional headmaster/mistress who is 100% for their students no matter what, with all the 'villainous' ones you see in media
- HEXICAH STEAM IS MENTIONED AND SHOWN! Yay!
- Not gonna lie, I love 'Professor Frankenstein' (Frankie's dad, Frankenstein's Monster) studying his daughter and the comic having the nerve to outright show her exposed brain.
- CLAWDEEN AND TORALEI SHIPPING IN HERE AS WELL??? Oh hex that, that's so stupid
- Clawdeen's parents splitting up? Good lord
- Cleo accusing Clawdeen of trying to steal DEUCE of all Monsters?!?!?!?! I'd sooner believe she's accusing Frankie of that again than CLAWDEEN. Who keeps trying to throw these love twists in, they're so stupid
- If Count Dracula is dead (how and why is he dead?) why is it his 1600 year old daughter is running things? Make sense plz
- Oh come ON now, Cleo hanging out with the WERECAT TWINS?! Who is writing this and what are they doing, this is so bad
- The art is really nice, Frankie is so upbeat and I do love her dad being shown and having strengths to him. 'Goona is shown and has lines, no Ghoulia at all
- Blond normie alert for Lala's love interest, again for some reason, when mentioning new 'claws' to revive the long-forgotten normie-vs-Monster thing
Wait, is it Howleen?? Has she been seen in G3?
The Hocus Pocus dolls are more widely available just like the Wednesday dolls and the Amazon dolls (Stitched in Style Frankie, Ghoulebrity line).
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(Not strictly MH-related but its' creator, Garrett Sander's new project Gravestone Guardians, is now open for backing! They are like Monster High meets classic She-Ra for lack of a better description!) -> https://www.backerkit.com/c/projects/garrett-sander/gravestone-guardians-vampsyphone-action-doll?ref=bk-noti-just-launched
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(Not strictly MH-related but its' creator, Garrett Sander's new project Gravestone Guardians, is now open for backing! They are like Monster High meets classic She-Ra for lack of a better description!) -> https://www.backerkit.com/c/projects/garrett-sander/gravestone-guardians-vampsyphone-action-doll?ref=bk-noti-just-launched