Human villains in TF usually suffered under the weight of their own hubris after trying to help the Decepticons. Like Doctor Archeville who IIRC ended up blowing some limbs off or something? And then needing robot limbs? Or that guy who helped the Decepticons frame the Autobots for crimes because the 'Cons promised he could be in control of "three cities", and after the Autobots were gone the Decepticons enslaved the guy and made him perpetually turn a crank to generate electricity for three cities.
Since the witches' main motivation is to make things wet (dank), I imagine they would try to set up some scheme to make the Autobots rust, and then end up almost drowning themselves. They would then be sent to jail.
Now the MLPs versus Unicron would be really something! I think the MLPs could win. Not with the Matrix of Leadership, though. Something without fingerholes. (Or with magic.)
And yay! Peter Cullen was in both movies. He voiced Augh the Spider.
I didn't know he voiced one of the grundles? :3
Glad dinner brought you back.
As for Megan and her siblings, I never liked them much either. But here seems a good place to raise the mysterious Hasbro Sunbow animation coincidence surrounding Danny.
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This is a character called Danny from a 2 part ep of Jem called the Music Awards. He's a runaway and he gets some of Jerrica's girls in trouble when they run away too. He looks a lot like an older version of MLP Danny:
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So my head canon is that this is what happened when Danny hit puberty. He ran away, trying to avoid his annoying sisters and the horde of pastel ponies that kept disrupting his life. He ended up at the Halfway House in Los Angeles as a result ;)
Ok, so it's head canon. But the features and the name just make me wonder. Jem and MLP had a lot of cross-over cast and writing people during the eighties. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a subtle inside joke.
As for Megan and her siblings, I never liked them much either. But here seems a good place to raise the mysterious Hasbro Sunbow animation coincidence surrounding Danny.
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This is a character called Danny from a 2 part ep of Jem called the Music Awards. He's a runaway and he gets some of Jerrica's girls in trouble when they run away too. He looks a lot like an older version of MLP Danny:
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So my head canon is that this is what happened when Danny hit puberty. He ran away, trying to avoid his annoying sisters and the horde of pastel ponies that kept disrupting his life. He ended up at the Halfway House in Los Angeles as a result ;)
Ok, so it's head canon. But the features and the name just make me wonder. Jem and MLP had a lot of cross-over cast and writing people during the eighties. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a subtle inside joke.
Wow, that is pretty uncanny!
But we need a way to tie in Daniel Witwicky from Transformers too.
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You can tell this was a movie made by two studios. The parts animated by Toei is head and shoulders above the lion's share of the movie animated by AKOM. You can really see it in the few segments with the ponies animated by Toei where the twinkle eyed ponies had beautiful gems in their eyes that actually twinkled. Compared to AKOM who drew two concentric circles and colored in the space between them. If only they were willing to give Toei the time and money needed to animated the movie completely.
Why does Megan have the Rainbow of Light if she gave it to Baby Moondancer at the end of Escape from Catrina?
It first order of business, kill the radioactive booger that dared to steal its name.
I agree. The ponies having to retrieve the Rainbow of Light from Megan makes no sense except as a way to bring Megan in to the story. I used to wonder if different people wrote each special and the movie as nothing seems consistent between them except the ponies having the Rainbow of Light, Spike living with the ponies after Rescue at Midnight Castle and Megan continuing to visit the ponies.
If the flutter ponies can use utter flutter to get rid of Smooze why didn't the Grundle King ask them to remove the Smooze from Grundleland? (I know it was done so Hasbro could show the ponies continuing to live in Paradise Estate, but still...)
This shot of Baby Lickety Split and Spike makes me laugh because Baby Lickety Split is so huge and drawn so badly. :lol:
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This shot of Baby Lickety Split and Spike makes me laugh because Baby Lickety Split is so huge and drawn so badly. :lol:
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Same. :lol:
Celebrity voices seem so pointless to me. Like, how many parents out there really thought, "Oh I wasn't going to see this, but DANNY DEVITO . . ." LOL, no. They go because their kids beg them.
I actually think most episodes of the TV series were better (plotwise) because they did focus more on the ponies.
Yeah, they got the 'real' Sergeant Slaughter who was a WWE professional wrestler (playing himself . . . except also a Joe). Although I would say that was a celebrity guest that actually made sense, since a lot of kids were fans of WWE and would know who he was.
That’s a good point about Grundleland Spikethedragon. The flutter ponies were able to get remove the Smooze pretty quickly from Dream Valley and maybe it’s impossible to remove after a certain length of time. Why did Hydia send Smooze to Grundleland? Was that ever explained?
Also, how long would poor Morning Glory been stuck in the well if Baby Lickety Split, the Grundles and Spike hadn’t stopped there? It took all of them to pull the bucket up with her in it although it takes several flutter ponies to fly Baby Lickety Split back to Dream Valley and in “The End of Flutter Valley Morning says flutter ponies can’t carry humans.
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Some things I did like about the movie:
Out of the fat and thin sidekicks (witches), the fat one was the smarter one, which is unusual.
And the wishing well 'echo' song.
Also Rosedust straight up refusing to help, although that's just because it makes me laugh and goes along so perfectly with how snooty and aloof the flutter pony toys look.
Now if only they had their noses in the air.
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I just watched this for the first time!
It was cute, but definitely not my fave pony movie.
I have to admit I was almost waiting for Gusty to say "Don't have a cow, man" or something the whole movie, lol. Nancy Cartwright voices her and the voice she does for Gusty sounds exactly like Bart Simpson. It made me laugh how cynical she was being the whole time, really. Angsty little pony.
The songs were very cute, Baby Lickety Split was being so ornery though! Baby Lickety Split, chill!!
The movie did focus a bit too much on the witches and stuff though. More ponies!
Overall I thought it was very cute and a nice addition to the MLP movie/TV series but definitely not the best.
The wishing well scene/song and finding the flutter ponies are some of my favorite scenes too. :) I'm amused by the fact that no one caught on that Morning Glory wasn't just an echo in the well when she sang "In here" instead of "inn near" :)
Also all the things that are in the last drawer Baby Lickety Split dumps during "Ill Go it Alone"
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Where is she going to plug in the toaster? :lol:
It's been quite a while since I've watched the film. I think it's time to rewatch it.
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You can tell this was a movie made by two studios. The parts animated by Toei is head and shoulders above the lion's share of the movie animated by AKOM. You can really see it in the few segments with the ponies animated by Toei where the twinkle eyed ponies had beautiful gems in their eyes that actually twinkled. Compared to AKOM who drew two concentric circles and colored in the space between them. If only they were willing to give Toei the time and money needed to animated the movie completely.
Do you have an example of this? From what I've seen the twinkle eyes sometimes get more detailed in close up shots, but it's kind of inconsistent how they're drawn. None of the pony scenes look Toei animated to me. Many of the scenes with the witches on the other hand look to be animated by Toei. You can really notice the difference in style when they switch animation studios.
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Toei's characters are more well-drawn and the movement is more fluid. Akom's movement is more janky and their characters seem to have thinner/softer outlines. On the plus side, Akom did some great detailed backgrounds in this. Toei's backgrounds are often more simplified. I like Toei's style better, but I think Akom did an ok job with this movie compared to the TV animation they put out.
Now if only they had their noses in the air.
Some do. Pink Dreams, Wind Drifter, Wing Song... They look less aloof than the first wave of Flutters, though. XDvisitors can't see pics , please register or login
Haha, this is exactly the shot I was talking about in the fakie thread, where I said that that one fakie reminded me of her. :P
Oh, thinking back to that scene with Morning Glory and the wishing well . . . Who else noticed the awkward cut off to that scene? Morning Glory says something like:
"I'll take you to Flutter Valle--" and she gets out a SMIDGE of the ending "ee" sound of 'valley' before being cut-off, obviously mid-sentence. Just terrible editing. I think this happens in another scene too but I can't recall which. Possibly the one where North Star is watching the Smooze from the roof?
I love when she takes a out a lone feather to make it less heavy XD
My sister pointed out how she liked when Morning Glory was starting to get agitated in her responses to Licketysplit not getting that she's not an echo. =D
For the longest time I didn't realize about Gusty's voice until much later, even with me watching a lot of Simpsons at the time, as a kid I watched a show talking about Nancy Cartwright and who she voiced and I was like 'I wish they would do an episode with some of the people that voiced the ponies." which I probably said aloud to my mom at the time, and then some time later I was watching Glass Princess and was 'Gusty sounds familiar!!!!!" and my kid mind was "duh!!! check the credits!" and low and behold I was shocked XD Yay dumb kid mind! =P
Please, post a picture of that fakie. :P
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When the TE ponies have actual gem eyes with the twinkling, you can also tell the animation in general has better quality. Really, it's like Toei was halfway done with the movie and they suddenly decided to take it over to Korea to have AKOM do the rest because they could do it faster and cheaper. The parts animated by AKOM were also where you were more likely to see coloring errors or wrong lips moving.
I genuinely didn't know Toei were involved in this. Having had to study more than my fair share of their film stuff, that's oddly appropriate.
I also never thought about the fact that many of the ponies get sidelined from a film that is essentially meant to market them (although maybe not so much in the US as the UK and Europe, I mean, they actively made certain characters here to go alongside the movie release because they didn't already exist). If I am right that MLP did not air on TV in the UK, the movie would've been the big media explosee of the characters - but those ponies are pretty common all the same. I can only think it's down to the comic and the really vivid artwork on the cards rather than the movie...which let the ponies down wholesale.
MIND YOU. I am imagining the next one of these threads will be End of FV. And in comparison to that, the Movie is amazing ><.
I genuinely didn't know Toei were involved in this. Having had to study more than my fair share of their film stuff, that's oddly appropriate.
I also never thought about the fact that many of the ponies get sidelined from a film that is essentially meant to market them (although maybe not so much in the US as the UK and Europe, I mean, they actively made certain characters here to go alongside the movie release because they didn't already exist). If I am right that MLP did not air on TV in the UK, the movie would've been the big media explosee of the characters - but those ponies are pretty common all the same. I can only think it's down to the comic and the really vivid artwork on the cards rather than the movie...which let the ponies down wholesale.
MIND YOU. I am imagining the next one of these threads will be End of FV. And in comparison to that, the Movie is amazing ><.
Ooh. I'm not looking forward to that. It dragged on and on and ooooonnn... :hot:
I genuinely didn't know Toei were involved in this. Having had to study more than my fair share of their film stuff, that's oddly appropriate.
I also never thought about the fact that many of the ponies get sidelined from a film that is essentially meant to market them (although maybe not so much in the US as the UK and Europe, I mean, they actively made certain characters here to go alongside the movie release because they didn't already exist). If I am right that MLP did not air on TV in the UK, the movie would've been the big media explosee of the characters - but those ponies are pretty common all the same. I can only think it's down to the comic and the really vivid artwork on the cards rather than the movie...which let the ponies down wholesale.
MIND YOU. I am imagining the next one of these threads will be End of FV. And in comparison to that, the Movie is amazing ><.
Ooh. I'm not looking forward to that. It dragged on and on and ooooonnn... :hot:
Ironic for a film with 'end' in the title, as it seemed to never end.
I’m looking forward to the “End of Flutter Valley” dicussion just because I have so much to say about it, but most of it won’t be positive. :lol:
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Also looking forward to my childhood episodes that I watched to death, Ice Cream Wars and Revolt of PE...
I just remember the flutter ponies getting caught and escaping and getting caught about a million times. :P
Furbobs. Interesting they were almost ready to hit store shelves and then shoved into a deep dark place to never seen the light of the day. I wonder if their introduction in the series was so terrible they figured they'd never sell.
I wish we’d gotten the Flutter Pony Hideaway.
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At least the Bushwoolies came with little crowns like the episode about the Quest of the Princess Ponies. I would have preferred the dragons here though.
At least the Bushwoolies came with little crowns like the episode about the Quest of the Princess Ponies. I would have preferred the dragons here though.
More likely the whole story of that episode was constructed to explain why the toys had crowns. I am a cynic. :)
At least the Bushwoolies came with little crowns like the episode about the Quest of the Princess Ponies. I would have preferred the dragons here though.
More likely the whole story of that episode was constructed to explain why the toys had crowns. I am a cynic. :)
LOL . . . I agree. Pretty sure in the 80s the toys were always designed first, then the writers were expected to come up with a rationalization within the show.
Will we see the “End of Flutter Valley dicussion soon? :)Do we really have to? Can't we pretend they didn't throw a sixth of the episodes they ordered in a dumpster and light them on fire?
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Will we see the “End of Flutter Valley dicussion soon? :)
Ponyfan
Will we see the “End of Flutter Valley dicussion soon? :)
Ponyfan
Yes, I just haven't had the time to sit down and watch it. My life is a mess right now...
I may just copy the summary for My Little Wiki to save me some time.
Will we see the “End of Flutter Valley dicussion soon? :)
Ponyfan
Yes, I just haven't had the time to sit down and watch it. My life is a mess right now...
I may just copy the summary for My Little Wiki to save me some time.
The End of Flutter Valley.
Summary: Nothing happens.
The End of Flutter Valley.
Summary: Nothing happens.
It's funny because it's true.