Oh wow. My 10-year-old sister says their smiles look like Momo's..
It's a bit of a shame they seem to be jumping on that "blind bag" accessories trend like LOL dolls. I always liked the whimsical feeling of seeing what accessories you could choose from while in the store.
Also, did anyone notice these are jumping on trends? Fluttershy has a mermaid motif, Pinkie Pie a unicorn motif (?)...
But, like...G4.75?? What are we going to call this.
I don't think they are. These have the G4 logo, and the Amazon description for at least one of them (haven't checked others) mentions Friendship is Magic by name.But, like...G4.75?? What are we going to call this.
I fear these are G5 :lookround:
Edit: Pinkie already cut in for me, whoops!But, like...G4.75?? What are we going to call this.
I fear these are G5 :lookround:
Unpopular opinion, but... I love these. G4 designs looked so boring to me. I love the somewhat more angular design of these toys. I’ve been terribly bored of the main 6 but I can 100% get behind these. I do hope they’re a little bit bigger than regular G4’s though. I couldn’t stand how small those brushables were.Oh good point on the size. I just hope they come out sooner than their stated date so we can find out!
I don't think they are. These have the G4 logo, and the Amazon description for at least one of them (haven't checked others) mentions Friendship is Magic by name.But, like...G4.75?? What are we going to call this.
I fear these are G5 :lookround:
Those are terrifying. Just, when Hasbro?
You know, I was talking with my friend last night on how Hasbro is destroying the classic Milton Bradley games lately. I said Hasbro is acting like they did in the 60's when they were riding high on G.I. Joe and no matter what they did was successful. That was followed by the 70's when the company almost ceased to exist and needed to completely restructure going into the 80's. I think Hasbro is going to run into a wall where their decisions have alienated their fans and just sour on the general public.
And those designs are...jibbly jibbly.
I've already shared my thoughts on these in some Discord servers but I'll do it here too. So first of all, I'm pretty positive these are not G5. The logo is the G4 logo, just a different color. The designs are the same as G4 Mane 6, just that they're in a new mold style. Their species are all the same (remember that they wanted to make Fluttershy a unicorn and Pinkie a pegasus?), the cutie marks are still G4 cutie marks, and the release date feels way too soon for this to be G5. These come out in January? Just two months from now? I'm pretty sure Hasbro would want to show off G5 at Toy Fair or something before its release, not after its release. I think these are just another G4 line and the upcoming CG movie's gonna be G4's last hurrah before we finally do get G5.
As for the designs themselves, they're definitely not ponies. But really neither are normal G4s? Original G4s and these new ones both equally are not horses to me. With previous G4s giving me deer vibes and these giving me cat ones. I think these are cute and I'll probably pick them up despite them being more Mane 6, just because the mold styles are so different so at least they don't like identical to nearly every other G4 Mane 6 releases. What's nice is I think these girls here may be bigger than normal G4s, if the price is anything to go by. The Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie say their MSRP will be $12.99 Canadian, which is around $10 USD. Considering these just come with a few accessories I don't think that would warrant being around $10 if they're normal G4 size, so I'm thinking they'll be a little larger?
As a trans guy, on bad days I think of myself as a deformity. These are worse.
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I dub thee... G4.75.
2nd worst only to G3.5.
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I dub thee... G4.75.
2nd worst only to G3.5.
As a trans guy, on bad days I think of myself as a deformity. These are worse.
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I dub thee... G4.75.
2nd worst only to G3.5.
Definitely worse.
I've already shared my thoughts on these in some Discord servers but I'll do it here too. So first of all, I'm pretty positive these are not G5. The logo is the G4 logo, just a different color. The designs are the same as G4 Mane 6, just that they're in a new mold style. Their species are all the same (remember that they wanted to make Fluttershy a unicorn and Pinkie a pegasus?)
I had similar thoughts, but also noticed there are some aspects of the leaked designs in these, such as the white in Rarity's hair. Also the eyes are completely different. In the end Hasbro might have decided to not change around their species. If that's the case I hope at the very least that Twilight won't be an alicorn anymore (though I think it's very likely she will be if that's what most people know her as by now).
It's also very possible these are a transitional line, to get consumers ready for the new generation. It does feel a little early to see these already. Still very exciting! Even if these designs don't appeal much to me personally. I liked G3.5, but the big chubby hooves is what made those work for me. But if kids are drawn to this style, then I think it's fine.
Rarity's hair is because the Rarity toy shown on Amazon has a color changing gimmick. It's white so that it can change color to purple when you spray it with water.
Rarity's hair is because the Rarity toy shown on Amazon has a color changing gimmick. It's white so that it can change color to purple when you spray it with water.
Thanks for pointing that out! That could be the explanation for that then. We'll see what follows. Looking forward to see what Twilight will look like in this style. :)
What the hell is that? :shocked: :blink:However you spell Strong Bad's creeped out mummblings.
Hasbro, I hate you sometimes. :nope:
Post Merge: November 02, 2019, 07:17:54 AMThose are terrifying. Just, when Hasbro?
You know, I was talking with my friend last night on how Hasbro is destroying the classic Milton Bradley games lately. I said Hasbro is acting like they did in the 60's when they were riding high on G.I. Joe and no matter what they did was successful. That was followed by the 70's when the company almost ceased to exist and needed to completely restructure going into the 80's. I think Hasbro is going to run into a wall where their decisions have alienated their fans and just sour on the general public.
And those designs are...jibbly jibbly.
Jibbly jibbly?
The art style looks very much like what is currently in if you watch cartoons.
Where are their chins?
What region of the devils' playground did these ponies creep out from?
Yikes, I like the feathered feet on them, but that’s about it. :huh: I know G4 didn’t look much like ponies either, but these feel so much worse. I hate how their eyes are placed front and center, and their snouts look so awkward. They must look like emojis on a horse body.
I definitely think this is G4’s last hurrah before G5. Unless they’re using all the exact same characters with no changes, this has to still be g4. I’ll probably buy just one of these since I like to have a pony from every gen, and this is radically different enough to be like, a half gen or something. If this style is where G5 is headed though, I may not have to worry about making space for new ponies. I can’t see myself collecting a toy line that looks like that.
This may be an unpopular opinion, but is anyone else sick of chibi stuff? Like...every toy out there seems to be going for the huge eyes, hardly any other features look and I just don’t think it’s cute. They look kinda creepy a lot of the time! I know that very much seems to be the style right now, and kids must like it, but some variety would be nice.
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Oh I figured out why I like the Fluttershy so much in particular. She reminds me of a more chibi (and larger eared version) of some Fluttershy art I really liked from the G5 leak two years back.
Just make her more slender/less chibi, give her a horn, and make her ears smaller and you kind of have that style. I think the facial expression in particular reminds me of it.
I noticed how they really do have forward-facing eyes now as well as a human jaw. Ew. So I whipped this upThis drawing is really helpful in illustrating what went wrong.lazilyhalf-asleepquickly referencing* my own ponies.
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*I looked over my shoulder at the ponies on my shelf and thought "yeah, that's close enough".
Where are their chins?
I still stand by me liking the detailed eyes and the accessories, but the face gets worse the more you look at it. :XD:At least they have more sculpting than G4.5s....
I noticed how they really do have forward-facing eyes now as well as a human jaw. Ew. So I whipped this uplazilyhalf-asleepquickly referencing* my own ponies.
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*I looked over my shoulder at the ponies on my shelf and thought "yeah, that's close enough".
Where are their chins?
I still stand by me liking the detailed eyes and the accessories, but the face gets worse the more you look at it. :XD:At least they have more sculpting than G4.5s....
Someone on Twitter was trying to call these G4.5. Um those exist kind of exist alreadyG4.5 are the late 2010 molds. This is more like G4.7.
Someone on Twitter was trying to call these G4.5. Um those exist kind of exist alreadyOne of my friends was calling it the same thing. To be fair, I don't think it's that well known outside the collecting community.
I like cats but I like ponies more.
As a trans guy, on bad days I think of myself as a deformity. These are worse.
I noticed how they really do have forward-facing eyes now as well as a human jaw. Ew. So I whipped this uplazilyhalf-asleepquickly referencing* my own ponies.
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*I looked over my shoulder at the ponies on my shelf and thought "yeah, that's close enough".
Where are their chins?
I still stand by me liking the detailed eyes and the accessories, but the face gets worse the more you look at it. :XD:At least they have more sculpting than G4.5s....
The art style looks very much like what is currently in if you watch cartoons.
Please provide a couple of different cartoons where horses look like this (and are not meant to be a parody of MLP).
I can think of Unikitty when I see Pinkie Pie, but I can't come up with anything else. Also, Unikitty is already a bit older by now.
The art style looks very much like what is currently in if you watch cartoons.
Please provide a couple of different cartoons where horses look like this (and are not meant to be a parody of MLP).
I can think of Unikitty when I see Pinkie Pie, but I can't come up with anything else. Also, Unikitty is already a bit older by now.
I was thinking mostly human centered cartoons like the newer Power Puff Girls and Teen Titans Go but there is a cartoon called Rainbow Butterfly Unicorn Kitty that these guys would look right at home in.
The art style looks very much like what is currently in if you watch cartoons.
Please provide a couple of different cartoons where horses look like this (and are not meant to be a parody of MLP).
I can think of Unikitty when I see Pinkie Pie, but I can't come up with anything else. Also, Unikitty is already a bit older by now.
I was thinking mostly human centered cartoons like the newer Power Puff Girls and Teen Titans Go but there is a cartoon called Rainbow Butterfly Unicorn Kitty that these guys would look right at home in.
This just confirms that these redesigns look a lot like cats and people :lol:
And now that you mentioned TTG! all I see is Beast Boy when I look at them.
Since they are not G5 and G5 isn't ready yet I wonder if these are just Hasbro's way to keep ponies in the stores since the FIM show ended.
Like Newborn Cuties...The art style looks very much like what is currently in if you watch cartoons.
Please provide a couple of different cartoons where horses look like this (and are not meant to be a parody of MLP).
I can think of Unikitty when I see Pinkie Pie, but I can't come up with anything else. Also, Unikitty is already a bit older by now.
I was thinking mostly human centered cartoons like the newer Power Puff Girls and Teen Titans Go but there is a cartoon called Rainbow Butterfly Unicorn Kitty that these guys would look right at home in.
This just confirms that these redesigns look a lot like cats and people :lol:
And now that you mentioned TTG! all I see is Beast Boy when I look at them.
Yeah it basically looks like they took the current cartoon trends and tried to apply them to ponies. Since they are not G5 and G5 isn't ready yet I wonder if these are just Hasbro's way to keep ponies in the stores since the FIM show ended. Maybe there will be a hastily made web series to go along with them.
there is a cartoon called Rainbow Butterfly Unicorn Kitty that these guys would look right at home in.Love that show (well, I do when it isn't having gross moments that is... I do have a nostalgic attachment to it, though.) I wouldn't say they fitted in there, though they look closer to Unikitty's design, which is pretty different in terms of design.
Honestly, the first thing I thought of when I saw them was Hairdorables. Except Hairdorables are nowhere near as creepy as these things (and that's saying something, since I'm personally not a fan of 'em). :yikes:Me too! It's the way the eyes are IMO. The way they're all looking to the side and the "flatness" of it. To me it's a mix of Hairdoables and those Poopsie unicorns. :yikes:
These things are HORRIFYING. Like, yes, they could be worse, but I like to have standards higher than slightly above rock bottom. :lol:
I'll just wait until Hasbro comes to their senses and save myself some cash.
I feel like hairdorables is doing better at ponies than these abominations, even if it's got a weird thick neck I can recognize it as a horse animal
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I actually have all 3 of the equines in that line lol. The Unicorn is the only one that doesn't seem to have proper eye markings while the Zebra and Pony does from the looks of it... or at least small indents of where the eyes are supposed to go :PSpoiler
This illustrates well why unsculpted eyes are a horrendous idea (they're like....sort of concave here...??!?) but other than that this is adorable! Awesome barrette too.
G4 could never have an accurate toy anyway, because the show was done with flash so they had 'eye flounder'* going on 100% of the time.
The eyes always migrated around to whatever side of the face was shown, like a flounder fish who is flat but both eyes are either on the left 'side of the coin' or the right. When faced forward, the eyes didn't foreshorten, they just...migrated to the front of the head. G1 cartoon was guilty of this too. The art done by Ragamuffin was actually done looking at the toys and shows the point. It's probably also why that new G1 art is always 100% in profile--because any other angle actually induces difficulty and perspective into art because you're not drawing a flat featureless disk any more.
*Eye flounder is caused because humans think that both eyes must be visible at all times or emotion is impossible to portray. That's because humans have front facing eyes and are meant to only be seen from the front when engaging with one another. You can see this on eeeeeverything, Sven the reindeer, every Disney horse imaginable, Chicken Run, those Spirit Stallion Cimmaron horses, shopkins ponies, etc everything looks like it was either crossed with a chimp or is a big mutant dog with the front facing close-together eyes. ("Emotion impossible to portray"---this is so clearly a lie / wrong belief but here we are)
"What is so bad about horses or ponies that their every feature must be eliminated"?
Terrible!
I will never own one of these. Collecting OVER.
I didn't particularly like the 'movie styles' or g4.5 whatevers, but I got that fashionstyle shimmery Luna because Luna. I didn't get anything else out of it though because the sphere heads and the way they're not on the neck 'right' any more bothers me more. They're not going to see another dime out of me with this style. However, that doesn't matter because I'm 1 person and Hasbrew doesn't care. (oh no someone is complaining on the internet!)
How did this get created? Answer stolen from Tumblr:
Hasbro "Have u ever seen a horse"
Designer "No wat dat"
Hasbro: "Ok ur hired now make ponny"
These......are not ponies?
Why can we not have ponies in our my little pony?
Why?
Why?
What is so hideous, ugly, stupid and awful about horses that EVERY SINGLE HORSE FEATURE must constantly be eliminated?
Why are ponies so bad that nothing can be allowed to look like them?
I just don't understand. They've got hooves. That's about it. There's no horse-like joints, they've even put a goat knee on the rear leg to eliminate pony-like-ness. Nothing at all horse like about the head, nor the neck which is almost non existent and also a tube. No hair on the neck...which is where horse hair IS...tail better positioned but still meh. Shortened the body again...short neck. It's opposite day. Everything these days seems it has to be stylized into almost unrecognizability for whatever reason but, stylization is one thing and morphing into an unrecognizable creature is something else.
It's like, this toy could be considered cute.
People are allowed to like it, that's fine.
It looks like that Gizmo Gremlin from Gremlins, and people like that.
The quality can be good, paint good, eye detail good, hair good etc. It can be a perfectly ok toy.
But it isn't a pony.
It's like every single thing they could possibly get wrong with the face, they got wrong.
But how?
The ears going all the way down the sides of the head? Flat eyes, eyes on the direct front of the face, nostrils on the front like a pig, total elimination of....face? Yes the lower jaw is out, but no pony has a completely flat face like a Persian cat. Whoever said they're trying more and more to look like emojis is correct...as it seems like the entire end goal of every single toy now is to look as much like a smiley face as possible.
Here's their friend in real life the Damascus Goat*
https://images.app.goo.gl/7i3uxSQrnN7YLwnJ9
Have fun with a great beauty
https://images.app.goo.gl/A4J5iApGVjCqa4qi6
They are breeding these to eliminate the fact that the face was long, so now it is short and good and the eyes are migrating to the front.
G4 could never have an accurate toy anyway, because the show was done with flash so they had 'eye flounder'* going on 100% of the time.
The eyes always migrated around to whatever side of the face was shown, like a flounder fish who is flat but both eyes are either on the left 'side of the coin' or the right. When faced forward, the eyes didn't foreshorten, they just...migrated to the front of the head. G1 cartoon was guilty of this too. The art done by Ragamuffin was actually done looking at the toys and shows the point. It's probably also why that new G1 art is always 100% in profile--because any other angle actually induces difficulty and perspective into art because you're not drawing a flat featureless disk any more.
*Eye flounder is caused because humans think that both eyes must be visible at all times or emotion is impossible to portray. That's because humans have front facing eyes and are meant to only be seen from the front when engaging with one another. You can see this on eeeeeverything, Sven the reindeer, every Disney horse imaginable, Chicken Run, those Spirit Stallion Cimmaron horses, shopkins ponies, etc everything looks like it was either crossed with a chimp or is a big mutant dog with the front facing close-together eyes. ("Emotion impossible to portray"---this is so clearly a lie / wrong belief but here we are)
*Nightmare inducing goat in many opinions
I blame Lauren Faust. She's the one who came up with this awful style to begin with.
I blame Lauren Faust. She's the one who came up with this awful style to begin with.
She worked with the G3.5/Newborn Cuties designs, tho. The blame is on Hasbro's decision makers and their estimation of what the consumers want. Faust is not the single mastermind behind FiM, even tho her fans would like us to believe that.
I blame Lauren Faust. She's the one who came up with this awful style to begin with.
She worked with the G3.5/Newborn Cuties designs, tho. The blame is on Hasbro's decision makers and their estimation of what the consumers want. Faust is not the single mastermind behind FiM, even tho her fans would like us to believe that.
I didn't say she was the mastermind. Nor am a fan of any of her work. But the deformed and ugly designs are apparent in everything she taints.
Hasbro is to blame as well for the awful 3.5 and Newborn Cuties. And they're partially to blame for this.
I blame Lauren Faust. She's the one who came up with this awful style to begin with.
She worked with the G3.5/Newborn Cuties designs, tho. The blame is on Hasbro's decision makers and their estimation of what the consumers want. Faust is not the single mastermind behind FiM, even tho her fans would like us to believe that.
I didn't say she was the mastermind. Nor am a fan of any of her work. But the deformed and ugly designs are apparent in everything she taints.
Hasbro is to blame as well for the awful 3.5 and Newborn Cuties. And they're partially to blame for this.
They hired her because they thought her style would fit their bobblehead vision. And I am sorry but Hasbro is not "partially" to blame. The are the company who creates these and hires the talents they want to carry out the job. They get full blame :lol:
They could have gotten someone else and not Lauren Faust. But they didn't.
LPS went into the same style direction and Lauren wasn't involved in that. In fact, the artist who redesigned MLP so we could have G3 is the same woman who came up with the LPS bobblehead/big eye style.
Hasbro tells the artists what to do, not vice versa.
Didn't she come to them with her fanart though?
QuoteDidn't she come to them with her fanart though?
Yes, that's called a pitch.
Style-wise, she gave them what they were looking for: more G3.5 proportions. She wasn't involved with G3.5, she went by these proportions because it fit her style and she essentially drew G1 ponies in that style that Hasbro was favoring. Had she drawn them as more ponyish ponies they probably wouldn't have hired her.
Considering they also didn't want the G1 characters she drew. Only one they okayed was Applejack. That's pretty much MLP history at this point :lol: Rainbow Dash was Firefly, Pinkie Pie was Surprise and so on.
Lauren Faust pitched a sort of G1 reboot to them and they torpedoed a lot of her plans but wanted her style.
That's just how she draws. Also, these new designs don't really look Faustish. She's been gone from Hasbro for a while now.
I want to cry!!! I was hoping for good ponies!!! These are just horrible! These are not ponies! They are cats with hooves! I thought G4 looked like deer. Those are more cute then these things! Hasbro is trying to taint that pony name!!!!! :(
Did she do some designs for Fosters Home For Imaginary Friends as well? Again, shared with Craig, but looking back Mac and Terrance could be viewed as bobblehead...
I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.
If that's the case, then this does not bode well for G5. To put it lightly.Yeahh my theory kinda shoots myself in the foot. I'm hoping they're just trying to warm us up to the feathered hooves more than the faces, and I hope that the want to be more horse-like sticks through development.
I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.
I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.
? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...
Oh yeah, I forgot about Goo - she would definitely qualify as a "bobblehead" character in my opinion.Did she do some designs for Fosters Home For Imaginary Friends as well? Again, shared with Craig, but looking back Mac and Terrance could be viewed as bobblehead...
I'm 99% sure she did, yeah (I have a feeling Goo and the imaginary puppies were Lauren's; I could be misremembering, though - my FHFIF fandom days were a looooong time ago!). Mac was definitely Craig's design, though. Not sure about Terrence.
Do you think Trasnformers fans would suffer this? Sure, there are chibi versions of them, but they compliment the main lines, not take them over.I don't like Transformers but I do agree. I don't really see other toy lines that have been around getting rebooted to this extreme...
Do you think Trasnformers fans would suffer this? Sure, there are chibi versions of them, but they compliment the main lines, not take them over.
Hasbro cares so little about adult MLP collectors that can’t even be bothered to make retro ponies. They’d rather Basic Fun do it. (Let Alone actually spend resources to design new G1 true toys - like they do for TF.) It’s unbalanced and unfair. MLP = Kids only. is how the current regime is running it.
Yep. this is 1000% all true.
Hasbro is Dr Jeckle and Mr Hyde. MLP gets the monster who thrashes about randomly and TF gets the savvy gentleman. 😥
i feel a teeny bit guilty for supporting the TF side. 😰
The fact that MLP are more simple to produce and design makes Hasbro look even worse
The fact that MLP are more simple to produce and design makes Hasbro look even worse
Also, TF never had more story than MLP.
While we're dunking on Hasbro can I just chime in with how upset I am that Hasbro Pulse doesn't sell ponies aside from the one SDCC exclusive? It makes no sense to me and just makes it very obvious that Hasbro only cares about their boy brands at the moment.Of course they are because ponies ain't selling because Hasbro won't listen to their fans -_-
Looking at the higher-ups I'm not surprise. (https://investor.hasbro.com/corporate-governance/management)
Also, TF never had more story than MLP.
It was my impression that the backstory was integral to the TF brand in its inception, since robots transforming to vehicles on its own wouldn't make much sense to western consumers at the time. Meanwhile MLP could exist on its own as a pretty colorful horse you could style and take care of, without any need for a backstory. G1 MLP books and cartoons seemed more like bonus advertising. Most iterations of TF have had its story told in cartoons, comics or movies, while many iterations of MLP have been without it, and maybe not really needing it in order to sell toys.
The fact that MLP are more simple to produce and design makes Hasbro look even worse
MTE
Also, TF never had more story than MLP. That's something they added later on in the 80s comics to make the basic premise of "robot faction A is fighting robot faction B over resources" more intresting. They realized they needed to offer more so boys won't outgrow the franchise.
I think it's perfectly fine to compare Hasbro lines to eachother because it's all made by the same company. If that company can pour resources into one line it begs the question why another line doesn't get that treatment. Especially when that line is - according to Hasbro's in-house reports - a valuable cashcowpony.
It just reminds me so much of Mattel, who downgraded their own Monster High because at a point it cannibalized the Barbie sales. They realized that MH was doing better than the Golden Child so instead of taking advantage of that and building MH up, they decided to cancel the planned movie, decided to reboot the line for pre- and elementary school kids and toss the 14+ demographic to the wolves because "teen girls buy phones and make-up and no dolls".
Teen girls these days have embraced geekiness much more than the previous generation. They have more disposable income than ever before. Why not build MLP up as a line that engages older kids, too? I don't need it to be for me. Just think Hasbro is sleeping on its potential in favor of their other franchises.
So I am reading that the ponies are Lauren Faust's design ? If that is true it is kinda funny because I'm positive the bronies will notice that these look a lot more like G3.5s than their beloved FIM ponies, and don't they still kinda worhip Faust? So their goddess is giving them G 3.5.2s haha
I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.
? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...
So I am reading that the ponies are Lauren Faust's design ? If that is true it is kinda funny because I'm positive the bronies will notice that these look a lot more like G3.5s than their beloved FIM ponies, and don't they still kinda worhip Faust? So their goddess is giving them G 3.5.2s haha
No, Lauren Faust hasn't worked for Hasbro in a long while. These designs don't look like her stuff, she also isn't much involved in toy design, afaik. She did soft dolls a while ago but those flopped/weren't picked up.
The Lauren Faust discussion ensued because LAW said she blames her for these caticorns :lol:
I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.
I'm probably misremembering/getting things mixed up. I recall seeing some G3.5-styled concept art/storyboards/somesuch on a Blogspot somewhere, years ago... anyone know what I'm talking about? I did some searching but I can't for the life of me find them :s
The impression I was under is that they wanted to redesign MLP and then hit upon Faust when she came to Hasbro to pitch a Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls show; I can buy G3.5 being a filler line but I'm not sure if I believe it being a transition into G4 like some people were describing. I'll concede that y'all probably know way more about the ins and outs of how FiM came to be than I do, though ;)
So I am reading that the ponies are Lauren Faust's design ? If that is true it is kinda funny because I'm positive the bronies will notice that these look a lot more like G3.5s than their beloved FIM ponies, and don't they still kinda worhip Faust? So their goddess is giving them G 3.5.2s haha
No, Lauren Faust hasn't worked for Hasbro in a long while. These designs don't look like her stuff, she also isn't much involved in toy design, afaik. She did soft dolls a while ago but those flopped/weren't picked up.
The Lauren Faust discussion ensued because LAW said she blames her for these caticorns :lol:
Caticorns no. Deformed ambiguous quadrupeds with giant eyes and swollen heads? Absolutely.
I predict gen 5 will be horrifying monstrosities that are floating, swollen, talking heads with kitty-faced mouths, no bodies and drawn on manes. Oh and they poop. :lol:
The intro screen will show our heroines lying limp and lifeless in the grass as their heads inflate like balloons until they pop off and ascend into the heavens.
(Hasbro if your reading this, DO NOT MAKE THESE!)
hehehehehe :snicker: :iconclap: yep i can see the tasteless poop thing happen sadly,
G5 will be a poopsies fakie :P
hehehehehe :snicker: :iconclap: yep i can see the tasteless poop thing happen sadly,
G5 will be a poopsies fakie :P
Ironically G1 is the only generation that made bodily functions a play feature. I don't think Hasbro's ever gone there again, even with the many pony baby dolls they've made over the years? :lol:
This? http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-little-pony-character-drawings.html?m=1 (http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-little-pony-character-drawings.html?m=1)I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.
? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...
I'm probably misremembering/getting things mixed up. I recall seeing some G3.5-styled concept art/storyboards/somesuch on a Blogspot somewhere, years ago... anyone know what I'm talking about? I did some searching but I can't for the life of me find them :s
The impression I was under is that they wanted to redesign MLP and then hit upon Faust when she came to Hasbro to pitch a Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls show; I can buy G3.5 being a filler line but I'm not sure if I believe it being a transition into G4 like some people were describing. I'll concede that y'all probably know way more about the ins and outs of how FiM came to be than I do, though ;)
Those drawings are actually quite cute. Too bad something was lost in translation. Maybe the drawings for G5 also started out really cute - and it is only when translated to plastic they look like poopsie fakie caticorns.This? http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-little-pony-character-drawings.html?m=1 (http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-little-pony-character-drawings.html?m=1)I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.
? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...
I'm probably misremembering/getting things mixed up. I recall seeing some G3.5-styled concept art/storyboards/somesuch on a Blogspot somewhere, years ago... anyone know what I'm talking about? I did some searching but I can't for the life of me find them :s
The impression I was under is that they wanted to redesign MLP and then hit upon Faust when she came to Hasbro to pitch a Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls show; I can buy G3.5 being a filler line but I'm not sure if I believe it being a transition into G4 like some people were describing. I'll concede that y'all probably know way more about the ins and outs of how FiM came to be than I do, though ;)
This? http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-little-pony-character-drawings.html?m=1 (http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-little-pony-character-drawings.html?m=1)I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.
? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...
I'm probably misremembering/getting things mixed up. I recall seeing some G3.5-styled concept art/storyboards/somesuch on a Blogspot somewhere, years ago... anyone know what I'm talking about? I did some searching but I can't for the life of me find them :s
The impression I was under is that they wanted to redesign MLP and then hit upon Faust when she came to Hasbro to pitch a Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls show; I can buy G3.5 being a filler line but I'm not sure if I believe it being a transition into G4 like some people were describing. I'll concede that y'all probably know way more about the ins and outs of how FiM came to be than I do, though ;)
There is no way what we call G3.5 was in development after or alongside G4. Think about it... why would they make an extra reboot just to "ease" kids into the G4 style. It was simply a decision to chibify the G3s because that look was already in back then.
Hasbro experienced success with their LPS reboot so why not make ponies look that way. G3 had been on shelves for a while, the Core 7 thing was taking off... all of that was planned years before G4 was being planned.
G4 would have probably gotten replaced by G5 way sooner if it hadn't become some sort of viral sensation. And these redesigns must have been in development for longer as well.
I’ve come to realize I don’t really care what animal MLPs look like so long as they look cute. G4s were very deer-like, but they were cute deer, so I like them. These things? They’re like cats, but they’re so incredibly grotesque and deformed that they look more like gremlins. If these were marketed as toy cats, they’d still be atrociously ugly.That's a good way of looking at it. :lovey:
I’ve come to realize I don’t really care what animal MLPs look like so long as they look cute. G4s were very deer-like, but they were cute deer, so I like them. These things? They’re like cats, but they’re so incredibly grotesque and deformed that they look more like gremlins. If these were marketed as toy cats, they’d still be atrociously ugly.That's a good way of looking at it. :lovey:
I’ve come to realize I don’t really care what animal MLPs look like so long as they look cute. G4s were very deer-like, but they were cute deer, so I like them. These things? They’re like cats, but they’re so incredibly grotesque and deformed that they look more like gremlins. If these were marketed as toy cats, they’d still be atrociously ugly.That's a good way of looking at it. :lovey:
No not really. You called a brand my little pony for 30+ years, it had better be a bloody horse.
I want something between super deformed cat/goat chimera and anatomically correct horse lol but more towards the horse end of things 😂😂
If I want realistic horse, I go to Breyer :silly:
Actually, it's Meghan McCarthy and Josh Haber you can blame for the brony pandering in FiM. Fasut was long gone by the time the show started to really twist it to appeal more to them specifically.There is no way what we call G3.5 was in development after or alongside G4. Think about it... why would they make an extra reboot just to "ease" kids into the G4 style. It was simply a decision to chibify the G3s because that look was already in back then.
Hasbro experienced success with their LPS reboot so why not make ponies look that way. G3 had been on shelves for a while, the Core 7 thing was taking off... all of that was planned years before G4 was being planned.
G4 would have probably gotten replaced by G5 way sooner if it hadn't become some sort of viral sensation. And these redesigns must have been in development for longer as well.
Or it might not have. Big sparkly eyed balloon head things are unfortunately popular and refuse to go away. And I do concede to your earlier point btw, I'm just tired and cranky and Faust irks me for chucking girls toons under the bus to curry favor with a trolly fanbase, for her impo awful style, and because I'm petty and am blaming her for much of the ills of modern mlp.
I want something between super deformed cat/goat chimera and anatomically correct horse lol but more towards the horse end of things 😂😂
My Little Chimera is the girl toyline we never knew we needed till now. :lol:
The movie has a September 24 2021 release date, so take that as you will for the relationship to the toys.
Actually, it's Meghan McCarthy and Josh Haber you can blame for the brony pandering in FiM. Fasut was long gone by the time the show started to really twist it to appeal more to them specifically.There is no way what we call G3.5 was in development after or alongside G4. Think about it... why would they make an extra reboot just to "ease" kids into the G4 style. It was simply a decision to chibify the G3s because that look was already in back then.
Hasbro experienced success with their LPS reboot so why not make ponies look that way. G3 had been on shelves for a while, the Core 7 thing was taking off... all of that was planned years before G4 was being planned.
G4 would have probably gotten replaced by G5 way sooner if it hadn't become some sort of viral sensation. And these redesigns must have been in development for longer as well.
Or it might not have. Big sparkly eyed balloon head things are unfortunately popular and refuse to go away. And I do concede to your earlier point btw, I'm just tired and cranky and Faust irks me for chucking girls toons under the bus to curry favor with a trolly fanbase, for her impo awful style, and because I'm petty and am blaming her for much of the ills of modern mlp.
I'm talking about how she said "That girl's cartoons and past iterations of MLP were only about tea parties, crying and laughing at nothing."
Anyone who has ever watched shows like MLP and Friends, She-Ra, Care Bears, Sailor Moon, Rainbowbrite or Jem knows this is a steaming load.
80s ponies: *fought demons, monsters and all kinds of ancient evils*
Lauren Faust: "I will show you that cartoons for girls don't have to be lame! Here are three ponies bickering at a slumber party!"
80s ponies: *fought demons, monsters and all kinds of ancient evils*
Lauren Faust: "I will show you that cartoons for girls don't have to be lame! Here are three ponies bickering at a slumber party!"
That's exactly how it is. :lmao: The first season of FiM was extremely slice-of-life, while the ponies in MLP 'n Friends all had to deal with things that wanted to enslave or kill them every episode...
Actually, it's Meghan McCarthy and Josh Haber you can blame for the brony pandering in FiM. Fasut was long gone by the time the show started to really twist it to appeal more to them specifically.There is no way what we call G3.5 was in development after or alongside G4. Think about it... why would they make an extra reboot just to "ease" kids into the G4 style. It was simply a decision to chibify the G3s because that look was already in back then.
Hasbro experienced success with their LPS reboot so why not make ponies look that way. G3 had been on shelves for a while, the Core 7 thing was taking off... all of that was planned years before G4 was being planned.
G4 would have probably gotten replaced by G5 way sooner if it hadn't become some sort of viral sensation. And these redesigns must have been in development for longer as well.
Or it might not have. Big sparkly eyed balloon head things are unfortunately popular and refuse to go away. And I do concede to your earlier point btw, I'm just tired and cranky and Faust irks me for chucking girls toons under the bus to curry favor with a trolly fanbase, for her impo awful style, and because I'm petty and am blaming her for much of the ills of modern mlp.
I'm talking about how she said "That girl's cartoons and past iterations of MLP were only about tea parties, crying and laughing at nothing."
Anyone who has ever watched shows like MLP and Friends, She-Ra, Care Bears, Sailor Moon, Rainbowbrite or Jem knows this is a steaming load.
Even the suburbanite Tales had feisty characters.
More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html
If she said that (I can't remember if I confirmed the true meaning of the one time I saw her say this) she'd be wrong here as well (unless she meant G3.5, but I could be wrong about that one - need to check) G3 definitely wasn't full of tea parties and giggling and crying over nothing.Actually, it's Meghan McCarthy and Josh Haber you can blame for the brony pandering in FiM. Fasut was long gone by the time the show started to really twist it to appeal more to them specifically.There is no way what we call G3.5 was in development after or alongside G4. Think about it... why would they make an extra reboot just to "ease" kids into the G4 style. It was simply a decision to chibify the G3s because that look was already in back then.
Hasbro experienced success with their LPS reboot so why not make ponies look that way. G3 had been on shelves for a while, the Core 7 thing was taking off... all of that was planned years before G4 was being planned.
G4 would have probably gotten replaced by G5 way sooner if it hadn't become some sort of viral sensation. And these redesigns must have been in development for longer as well.
Or it might not have. Big sparkly eyed balloon head things are unfortunately popular and refuse to go away. And I do concede to your earlier point btw, I'm just tired and cranky and Faust irks me for chucking girls toons under the bus to curry favor with a trolly fanbase, for her impo awful style, and because I'm petty and am blaming her for much of the ills of modern mlp.
I'm talking about how she said "That girl's cartoons and past iterations of MLP were only about tea parties, crying and laughing at nothing."
Anyone who has ever watched shows like MLP and Friends, She-Ra, Care Bears, Sailor Moon, Rainbowbrite or Jem knows this is a steaming load.
Even the suburbanite Tales had feisty characters.
I think she was comparing it to the G3 cartoon since that was what was currently airing at the time Lauren made her pitch.
If she said that (I can't remember if I confirmed the true meaning of the one time I saw her say this) she'd be wrong here as well (unless she meant G3.5, but I could be wrong about that one - need to check) G3 definitely wasn't full of tea parties and giggling and crying over nothing.Actually, it's Meghan McCarthy and Josh Haber you can blame for the brony pandering in FiM. Fasut was long gone by the time the show started to really twist it to appeal more to them specifically.There is no way what we call G3.5 was in development after or alongside G4. Think about it... why would they make an extra reboot just to "ease" kids into the G4 style. It was simply a decision to chibify the G3s because that look was already in back then.
Hasbro experienced success with their LPS reboot so why not make ponies look that way. G3 had been on shelves for a while, the Core 7 thing was taking off... all of that was planned years before G4 was being planned.
G4 would have probably gotten replaced by G5 way sooner if it hadn't become some sort of viral sensation. And these redesigns must have been in development for longer as well.
Or it might not have. Big sparkly eyed balloon head things are unfortunately popular and refuse to go away. And I do concede to your earlier point btw, I'm just tired and cranky and Faust irks me for chucking girls toons under the bus to curry favor with a trolly fanbase, for her impo awful style, and because I'm petty and am blaming her for much of the ills of modern mlp.
I'm talking about how she said "That girl's cartoons and past iterations of MLP were only about tea parties, crying and laughing at nothing."
Anyone who has ever watched shows like MLP and Friends, She-Ra, Care Bears, Sailor Moon, Rainbowbrite or Jem knows this is a steaming load.
Even the suburbanite Tales had feisty characters.
I think she was comparing it to the G3 cartoon since that was what was currently airing at the time Lauren made her pitch.
I do respect Lauren as a person and writer, but she's allowed to be wrong. If she genuinely thinks that girl's shows (regardless of whether she's including past My Little Pony in this or not) are like this, it's likely because she didn't watch them. She probably heard they were like that, or saw a few that were like that, and gave up. Not professional to state this as fact, but yeah... people get/remember things wrong.
I feel I already posted something like this, so sorry if it's a repeat.
More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html
I have to say I do like the trotting pose and the eye colors (that bit of blue AJ has in her eye is a nice touch, imo). But I can't deal with the lack of jaw. Profile makes them look like they come straight out of a horror movie.
Potion Nova looks like Rarity. Eyes look like stickers (hopefully just a prototype thing).Those seamlines tell me they are going to be hard plastic, so that's a hard pass for me.
First off, who is Nova????More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html
I have to say I do like the trotting pose and the eye colors (that bit of blue AJ has in her eye is a nice touch, imo). But I can't deal with the lack of jaw. Profile makes them look like they come straight out of a horror movie.
Potion Nova looks like Rarity. Eyes look like stickers (hopefully just a prototype thing).Those seamlines tell me they are going to be hard plastic, so that's a hard pass for me.
First off, who is Nova????More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html
I have to say I do like the trotting pose and the eye colors (that bit of blue AJ has in her eye is a nice touch, imo). But I can't deal with the lack of jaw. Profile makes them look like they come straight out of a horror movie.
Potion Nova looks like Rarity. Eyes look like stickers (hopefully just a prototype thing).Those seamlines tell me they are going to be hard plastic, so that's a hard pass for me.
Second, still don't like the heads and the muzzles look weird without the proper chin
Third, I'm not a fan of the new pose... it's that front bent leg that bothers me XD
Other than that, if Nova wasn't in this line I think I'd like her better
More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html
I have to say I do like the trotting pose and the eye colors (that bit of blue AJ has in her eye is a nice touch, imo). But I can't deal with the lack of jaw. Profile makes them look like they come straight out of a horror movie.
Potion Nova looks like Rarity. Eyes look like stickers (hopefully just a prototype thing).Those seamlines tell me they are going to be hard plastic, so that's a hard pass for me.
It was an outright lie and I hate to be that person but Girls properties get enough flak, her lying butt didn't need to add to it. If she hadn't watched them then she shoulda kept her big fat flap shut.
More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html
It was an outright lie and I hate to be that person but Girls properties get enough flak, her lying butt didn't need to add to it. If she hadn't watched them then she shoulda kept her big fat flap shut.
I'm like 99.9% sure Lauren is not out to bash girls' cartoons as a whole. As I understand it her point was that there are generally less stakes in girls' cartoons, as well as less care, effort and funding put into them. This holds true (we just discussed the same thing in regards to toys), and a handful of well-made girls' cartoons existing does not disprove a general trend. Lauren's worked within the industry too, so she should know a bit about the discussions that lead to certain cartoons being greenlit or dismissed. Maybe she didn't chose her words too carefully, but I find it better to be charitable than to interpret her words in the worst way possible.More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html
Very cool! I'm still not so sold on the faces, but their eyes are really nice. Bodies are ok, but not very interesting in any way except for the hooves. Hope there'll be more than two poses.
I feel what Lauren said is the equivalent of "I'm not other girls" throwing other women, girls, items associated with feminine things etc under the bus to make yourself look better is inherently misogynistic and immature. Probably why a lot of people have reacted negatively to it.
Girls media often is stuck in a corset of likeability and cuteness.
No flawed characters allowed, no real conflict allowed. All look the same, all peddle fake beauty (make-up, insanely long hair, impossibly tiny bodies and impossibly big eyes). A lot of items targeted at grown women are literally useless.
Just like a lot of boys media is mimicking war and encouraging boys to fight each other. There is nothing wrong in pointing that out.
There is also nothing wrong in not being like the other girls. Especially when you are young and other girls are bullying you for not following beauty trends and gender norms.
The problem with this infamous Lauren Faust quote, imo, is how many FiM fans latched onto it to shame older fans - especially the male ones a.k.a. "autistic and gay" and women with kids a.k.a. "fat housewives" - and bash the older gens as "stupid because it was for girls". This turned into bashing girls in general.
I highly doubt that Faust intended to bash girls and compare herself to them as "cool".
Then there is her husband, who had an entire episode in Powerpuff Girls dedicated to anti-feminist messages and villainizing women who use the Venus symbol... I actually remember anti-Faust fans making her responsible for this episode and harassing her for it until she apologized in her husband's name.
So yeah, people on both sides like to project their politics onto Lauren. They blame her for sexist bronies and call her "cool girl" and act like the previous MLP wasn't written by men.
Faust said a lot of stuff I disagree with. I also don't hold up season 1 or 2 as creme de la creme of FiM. But claiming she is a misogynist is taking it too far.
On another note... Potion Nova's coloring reminds me of Star Catcher
Then there is her husband, who had an entire episode in Powerpuff Girls dedicated to anti-feminist messages and villainizing women who use the Venus symbol... I actually remember anti-Faust fans making her responsible for this episode and harassing her for it until she apologized in her husband's name.
Twilight would be really cute if she wasn't meant to be Twilight and was indeed meant to be some kind of fox or cat friend of the ponies...
Kitsune maybe.
Customs anyone...?
To be honest, I felt that episode was kind of misinterpreted by a lot of people, in different (well, two) ways. Ultimately, I don't think the episode was hating men, women, feminists or anything - I think it was just saying you can go too far, and shouldn't view one side as bad. It was flawed in places (that playground scene), but I think people got the wrong message from it (or only I did and everyone else got it right.)Then there is her husband, who had an entire episode in Powerpuff Girls dedicated to anti-feminist messages and villainizing women who use the Venus symbol... I actually remember anti-Faust fans making her responsible for this episode and harassing her for it until she apologized in her husband's name.
Sorry to nitpick, but Lauren Faust actually did write/storyboard that PPG ep ("Equal Fights").
Twilight would be really cute if she wasn't meant to be Twilight and was indeed meant to be some kind of fox or cat friend of the ponies...Now that would be an episode I'd enjoy watching...
Kitsune maybe.
Customs anyone...?
I'd like to see a modern pony toy that actually looks like a pony. G1-G3 are great in that regard, G4 is decent. Anything else? Not so much. Might get Potion Nova and AJ at the least.
Then there is her husband, who had an entire episode in Powerpuff Girls dedicated to anti-feminist messages and villainizing women who use the Venus symbol... I actually remember anti-Faust fans making her responsible for this episode and harassing her for it until she apologized in her husband's name.
Sorry to nitpick, but Lauren Faust actually did write/storyboard that PPG ep ("Equal Fights").
I know a lot of people are relieved these things aren't G5. However, this makes me worried G5 will be worse. There has been a trend to eliminate equine elements to the design of the ponies starting with G3.5. Making the snouts small, the eyes more forward. With these things, the only thing equine about them is they have non-split hooves. The heads aren't equine and even the shape of the legs isn't equine.
And this is a problem. It's not that they're not making the toys realistically horse-like. It's that they're so stylized they can't be recognized as horses anymore. Why make a brand called My Little PONY if you don't want to make PONIES?
Sadly, that is the case. And it's not just MLP. Their board games department is wrecking the classics by trying to keep them hip with the new trends. Their Disney lines are not as high quality as they were when Mattel made them.I know a lot of people are relieved these things aren't G5. However, this makes me worried G5 will be worse. There has been a trend to eliminate equine elements to the design of the ponies starting with G3.5. Making the snouts small, the eyes more forward. With these things, the only thing equine about them is they have non-split hooves. The heads aren't equine and even the shape of the legs isn't equine.
And this is a problem. It's not that they're not making the toys realistically horse-like. It's that they're so stylized they can't be recognized as horses anymore. Why make a brand called My Little PONY if you don't want to make PONIES?
Because Hasbro sucks.
Sadly, that is the case. And it's not just MLP. Their board games department is wrecking the classics by trying to keep them hip with the new trends. Their Disney lines are not as high quality as they were when Mattel made them.I know a lot of people are relieved these things aren't G5. However, this makes me worried G5 will be worse. There has been a trend to eliminate equine elements to the design of the ponies starting with G3.5. Making the snouts small, the eyes more forward. With these things, the only thing equine about them is they have non-split hooves. The heads aren't equine and even the shape of the legs isn't equine.
And this is a problem. It's not that they're not making the toys realistically horse-like. It's that they're so stylized they can't be recognized as horses anymore. Why make a brand called My Little PONY if you don't want to make PONIES?
Because Hasbro sucks.
And MLP naming has gotten terrible. There use to be thought put into these, but now it does feel like they're throwing darts at a board to combine two words.
Sadly, that is the case. And it's not just MLP. Their board games department is wrecking the classics by trying to keep them hip with the new trends. Their Disney lines are not as high quality as they were when Mattel made them.I know a lot of people are relieved these things aren't G5. However, this makes me worried G5 will be worse. There has been a trend to eliminate equine elements to the design of the ponies starting with G3.5. Making the snouts small, the eyes more forward. With these things, the only thing equine about them is they have non-split hooves. The heads aren't equine and even the shape of the legs isn't equine.
And this is a problem. It's not that they're not making the toys realistically horse-like. It's that they're so stylized they can't be recognized as horses anymore. Why make a brand called My Little PONY if you don't want to make PONIES?
Because Hasbro sucks.
That said! Potion Nova really is a terrible name. It just feels like they went "okay, what to name her.. uhhhh... she has a potion on her butt, so.. Potion.... *throws a dart at a list of words* ...Nova... Potion Nova.. yeah... that'll do...".
That said! Potion Nova really is a terrible name. It just feels like they went "okay, what to name her.. uhhhh... she has a potion on her butt, so.. Potion.... *throws a dart at a list of words* ...Nova... Potion Nova.. yeah... that'll do...".
I think this must be how Hasbro comes up with most of their pony names.
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Wait... so are these G5 or not?They’re not.
They might be preparing us though, that's something we'll have to wait and see about :huh:Wait... so are these G5 or not?They’re not.
If these are a transitional point towards g5, I honestly have a feeling the feathered hooves are gonna stick around. Based on that concept art that was leaked forever ago, maybe they'll end up with a more slender build like g2s, but with bigger eyes and more chibi-fied faces like g4? That's my hope anyway. Trying to stay positive here :lol:
If these are a transitional point towards g5, I honestly have a feeling the feathered hooves are gonna stick around. Based on that concept art that was leaked forever ago, maybe they'll end up with a more slender build like g2s, but with bigger eyes and more chibi-fied faces like g4? That's my hope anyway. Trying to stay positive here :lol:
That sounds cute! Just so long as they don’t have completely flat faces with giant ears. I think that’s what made these latest toys so disturbing - they look like this:
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If these are a transitional point towards g5, I honestly have a feeling the feathered hooves are gonna stick around. Based on that concept art that was leaked forever ago, maybe they'll end up with a more slender build like g2s, but with bigger eyes and more chibi-fied faces like g4? That's my hope anyway. Trying to stay positive here :lol:
That sounds cute! Just so long as they don’t have completely flat faces with giant ears. I think that’s what made these latest toys so disturbing - they look like this:
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That sounds cute! Just so long as they don’t have completely flat faces with giant ears. I think that’s what made these latest toys so disturbing - they look like this:
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If these are a transitional point towards g5, I honestly have a feeling the feathered hooves are gonna stick around. Based on that concept art that was leaked forever ago, maybe they'll end up with a more slender build like g2s, but with bigger eyes and more chibi-fied faces like g4? That's my hope anyway. Trying to stay positive here :lol:
That sounds cute! Just so long as they don’t have completely flat faces with giant ears. I think that’s what made these latest toys so disturbing - they look like this:
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Has Hasbro forgot why it's called MY Little Pony? When I was a kid I was crazy for anything horse, weather it was books, movies or toys. My Little Pony was an awesome toy to have then. They looked like ponies and I could brush them, it's every kid's dream to have a little pony. ^.^
Try brushing the hair on those ugly things.
I gave it a shot to do lines on these and well not accurate because plastic packaging distorts things but still... nope nope nope
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Oh boy, toys of upcoming movieNew G4 pony toy designs have been sighted in Amazon Ca and UK.
I don't personally like their big heads, pointy ears and weird snouts.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Little-Pony-MAGICAL-RARITY/dp/B07V51XG29/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=my+little+pony&qid=1572680361&refinements=p_n_availability:181448031&s=kids&sr=1-16&linkCode=sl1&tag=alabmlme-21&linkId=60b2af889046b18095ff11217549e5e8&language=en_GB
I might actually try this method for naming ponies in my project - I have named some, but there are many unnamed ones, so it's worth a shot (I'll only use ones that look good to me though.)
That said! Potion Nova really is a terrible name. It just feels like they went "okay, what to name her.. uhhhh... she has a potion on her butt, so.. Potion.... *throws a dart at a list of words* ...Nova... Potion Nova.. yeah... that'll do...".
I think this must be how Hasbro comes up with most of their pony names.
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Me too. But add a stiff whiskey to the mix. XD
Well, if you're not a fan of the toys... maybe you'll like the art better?? Hasbro on Instagram has been teasing something, maybe a webseries?Ewww
:lmao:
[Insert Steve Carell "NO!" meltdown here]
I think I'm done with new pony for a while. I still enjoy G1, but wake me up after this crashes and burns and Hasbro gets back to basics with MLP.
I think Ragamuffin is right and I'll bet we'll see a webseries with short little jokey videos to keep the brand alive until the next movie and cartoon are ready to go, and it will probably be in this style.
If that's the case, maybe we should refer to this as G5 and the upcoming movie/show that will be out in a year or so would be G6?
Thanks for the heads up! $20 is a bit much, ack. I'm curious what the MSRP is.Considering she’s a gimmicky pony, I’m afraid that’ll be her price range >_<
Well, if you're not a fan of the toys... maybe you'll like the art better?? Hasbro on Instagram has been teasing something, maybe a webseries?
:lmao:
How you feelin' about a whole new look?
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4z8Qrwpkyy/?igshid=17f7wj4hsqusl (https://www.instagram.com/p/B4z8Qrwpkyy/?igshid=17f7wj4hsqusl)
Well, there's going to be a new animated series with this to look forward to. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I'm getting Thundercats Roar vibes from this.
D: NO
What is that Rarity blob doing?
Well, there goes my hope the change in decade will get animation off the snide.
Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion. Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade. :lovey:
I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.
The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion. Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade. :lovey:
I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.
The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)
Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
Anyone who can say that TTG, Rise of the Turtles, Thundercats Roar, Uncle Grandpa, Mega Man Fully Charged etc. etc. are beautiful, well animated toons have one heckuva poker face. In fact I heard nothing but the exact opposite.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion. Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade. :lovey:
I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.
The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)
Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
This decade gave us the following things;
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor
Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are. Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion. Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade. :lovey:
I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.
The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)
Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
This decade gave us the following things;
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor
Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are. Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.
FiM is cheap CN flash-crap.
I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.
Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.
I don't think Gumball is ANYTHING like Chowder, animation is similar, but even so I don't think of Chowder while watching Gumball, or vise versa. They are very different. We also had Gravity Falls, early FIM, Over the Garden Wall, Regular Show ect. I think its been the best era for cartoons since the 80s, (not really in recent years, more so 2010-2015) but still a lot of cartoons are watchable, most are, you just have shows like Teen Titans Go that overshadow them.We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion. Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade. :lovey:
I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.
The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)
Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
This decade gave us the following things;
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor
Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are. Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.
FiM is pretty cheap cn flash-crap.
I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.
Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion. Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade. :lovey:
I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.
The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)
Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
This decade gave us the following things;
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor
Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are. Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.
FiM is cheap CN flash-crap.
I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.
Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.
I have seen cheap crap flash animation. It's that new Magic School Bus show, not FiM
I don't think Gumball is ANYTHING like Chowder, animation is similar, but even so I don't think of Chowder while watching Gumball, or vise versa. They are very different. We also had Gravity Falls, early FIM, Over the Garden Wall, Regular Show ect. I think its been the best era for cartoons since the 80s, (not really in recent years, more so 2010-2015) but still a lot of cartoons are watchable, most are, you just have shows like Teen Titans Go that overshadow them.We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion. Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade. :lovey:
I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.
The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)
Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
This decade gave us the following things;
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor
Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are. Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.
FiM is pretty cheap cn flash-crap.
I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.
Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion. Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade. :lovey:
I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.
The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)
Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
This decade gave us the following things;
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor
Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are. Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.
FiM is cheap CN flash-crap.
I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.
Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.
I have seen cheap crap flash animation. It's that new Magic School Bus show, not FiM
FiM looks like a million other cheap flash crap, cookie cutter toons that came out in the late 90s onward. But I suppose since that's nearly all this generation of toons does, (or Pixar knock-offs) one could be possibly forgiven for thinking its somehow a cut above the rest.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion. Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade. :lovey:
I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.
The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)
Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
This decade gave us the following things;
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor
Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are. Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.
FiM is cheap CN flash-crap.
I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.
Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.
I have seen cheap crap flash animation. It's that new Magic School Bus show, not FiM
FiM looks like a million other cheap flash crap, cookie cutter toons that came out in the late 90s onward. But I suppose since that's nearly all this generation of toons does, (or Pixar knock-offs) one could be possibly forgiven for thinking its somehow a cut above the rest.
Oh, so now I need to be forgiven? I don't like your attitude
I'm so tired of this thread now. I've had a wild dayThis is mood. :blink:
FiM is in no way cheap in my opinion, even if you place flash as the lowest form of animation, I can clearly see that FiM made a lot of effort with what it had, and created something very beautiful - not as much as the other shows I mentioned or earlier things like G3 (not of this decade, I know), but it showed that flash can be beautiful and well detailed. It showed you can do flash, and not do the bare minimum. Compared to other flash cartoons I've seen, it stands out like whatever the good version of a saw thumb is.We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion. Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade. :lovey:
I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.
The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)
Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
This decade gave us the following things;
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor
Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are. Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.
FiM is cheap CN flash-crap.
I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.
Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.
I'm so tired of this thread now. I've had a wild dayThis is mood. :blink:
MJN, No the Pixar comment wasn't aimed at you, but at Nemesis.
And FiM is as cheap and cookie cutter as the rest. Colorful, sure.. But beautiful? Not in the least. It can't compare to a multitude of other animation that didnt use flash. Cyberverse is colorful too but in no way can I call it beautiful, being an even more simplified version of Prime and RiD15.
Also, I wonder what the hair quality on these toys will be like? From the pictures, it doesn’t look good.