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Title: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Carolina-chan on November 02, 2019, 03:28:24 AM
Oh boy, toys of upcoming movie New G4 pony toy designs have been sighted in Amazon Ca and UK.

I don't personally like their big heads, pointy ears and weird snouts.

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https://www.amazon.ca/Hasbro-MLP-Fluttershy-Mermaid/dp/B07ZK46DYS/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=my+little+pony&qid=1572679085&refinements=p_n_availability:12035748011,p_89:Hasbro|My+Little+Pony&rnid=7590290011&s=toys&sr=1-8&linkCode=sl1&tag=mm0bc-20&linkId=8887a78301448ae422989e7856e6bb2d&language=en_CA

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https://www.amazon.ca/Hasbro-MLP-Rarity-Princess/dp/B07ZK46DYR/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=my+little+pony&qid=1572679085&refinements=p_n_availability:12035748011,p_89:Hasbro|My+Little+Pony&rnid=7590290011&s=toys&sr=1-7&linkCode=sl1&tag=mm0bc-20&linkId=1976c6cccfc916b73fcb7209161b7b9c&language=en_CA

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Little-Pony-MAGICAL-RARITY/dp/B07V51XG29/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=my+little+pony&qid=1572680361&refinements=p_n_availability:181448031&s=kids&sr=1-16&linkCode=sl1&tag=alabmlme-21&linkId=60b2af889046b18095ff11217549e5e8&language=en_GB
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: freezestime on November 02, 2019, 03:31:46 AM
IMHO, they're cursed. Super cursed.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Zapper on November 02, 2019, 03:32:56 AM
:shocked:
Hooves are nice, the rest is just... no comment.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: BubbleSurprise on November 02, 2019, 04:37:28 AM
Oh wow. My 10-year-old sister says their smiles look like Momo's..

It's a bit of a shame they seem to be jumping on that "blind bag" accessories trend like LOL dolls. I always liked the whimsical feeling of seeing what accessories you could choose from while in the store.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: CloudyGlow on November 02, 2019, 04:56:09 AM
I'm not a fan. Heads are too big and I think the eyes have less personality. But then I hated the G4 show style and Equestria Girls but now I love those. So could I change my mind? Maybe
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: MoonShadow on November 02, 2019, 05:27:38 AM
Why, Hasbro, why?  :cry:
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: freezestime on November 02, 2019, 05:31:59 AM
Oh wow. My 10-year-old sister says their smiles look like Momo's..

It's a bit of a shame they seem to be jumping on that "blind bag" accessories trend like LOL dolls. I always liked the whimsical feeling of seeing what accessories you could choose from while in the store.

I can understand that, but I really unboxing/opening mystery things like that. I'd love these and would definitely get them but the actual toys are a nightmare to me!
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Ponyfan on November 02, 2019, 05:38:46 AM
I'm not a fan.  :yikes: :yikes: The heads and ears look off to me.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Wind~Whistler on November 02, 2019, 05:40:53 AM
... and as soon as I get into G4.5, these show up  :huh:

Also, did anyone notice these are jumping on trends? Fluttershy has a mermaid motif, Pinkie Pie a unicorn motif (?)...
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: EnaRocketQueen on November 02, 2019, 05:45:02 AM
Oh my god they are hideous
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Moonbreeze on November 02, 2019, 05:45:26 AM
... nope ....  :blink:
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: kingluke on November 02, 2019, 05:57:27 AM
As a trans guy, on bad days I think of myself as a deformity. These are worse.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Zapper on November 02, 2019, 05:57:54 AM
Also, did anyone notice these are jumping on trends? Fluttershy has a mermaid motif, Pinkie Pie a unicorn motif (?)...

Yeah, I don't even understand why they would give an MLPony a unicorn crown while actual unicorns exist in the line. It's like Pinkie wants to be a different race...
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 02, 2019, 06:12:15 AM
I must be the only person in the world who thinks these are super cute! The pictures of them in box are off putting, but I love the legs. If they had more of a snout and had smaller heads they'd be less initially spooky.
But, like...G4.75?? What are we going to call this.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Zapper on November 02, 2019, 06:20:59 AM
But, like...G4.75?? What are we going to call this.

I fear these are G5 :lookround:
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: PinkieLopBun on November 02, 2019, 06:25:39 AM
But, like...G4.75?? What are we going to call this.

I fear these are G5 :lookround:
I don't think they are. These have the G4 logo, and the Amazon description for at least one of them (haven't checked others) mentions Friendship is Magic by name.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Pinkie21 on November 02, 2019, 06:30:22 AM
Unpopular opinion, but... I love these.  G4 designs looked so boring to me.  I love the somewhat more angular design of these toys.  I’ve been terribly bored of the main 6 but I can 100% get behind these.  I do hope they’re a little bit bigger than regular G4’s though.  I couldn’t stand how small those brushables were. 
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: BlackCurtains on November 02, 2019, 06:36:34 AM
Rarity looks like there's a little extra something something in that spray bottle.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 02, 2019, 06:45:40 AM
But, like...G4.75?? What are we going to call this.

I fear these are G5 :lookround:
Edit: Pinkie already cut in for me, whoops!
I think the plan was always to have a G4 into G5 movie? I'll check with my cartoon cohorts but I think we were supposed to have one more spurt of G4.

Post Merge: November 02, 2019, 06:47:24 AM

Unpopular opinion, but... I love these.  G4 designs looked so boring to me.  I love the somewhat more angular design of these toys.  I’ve been terribly bored of the main 6 but I can 100% get behind these.  I do hope they’re a little bit bigger than regular G4’s though.  I couldn’t stand how small those brushables were.
Oh good point on the size. I just hope they come out sooner than their stated date so we can find out!
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Al-1701 on November 02, 2019, 06:51:16 AM
Those are terrifying.  Just, when Hasbro?

You know, I was talking with my friend last night on how Hasbro is destroying the classic Milton Bradley games lately.  I said Hasbro is acting like they did in the 60's when they were riding high on G.I. Joe and no matter what they did was successful.  That was followed by the 70's when the company almost ceased to exist and needed to completely restructure going into the 80's.  I think Hasbro is going to run into a wall where their decisions have alienated their fans and just sour on the general public.

And those designs are...jibbly jibbly.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Kisscurl on November 02, 2019, 06:59:57 AM
You have got to be joking!!!
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Zapper on November 02, 2019, 07:02:50 AM
But, like...G4.75?? What are we going to call this.

I fear these are G5 :lookround:
I don't think they are. These have the G4 logo, and the Amazon description for at least one of them (haven't checked others) mentions Friendship is Magic by name.

Whew! I was thrown by the hooves. Too much of a change. So as long as these are branded FiM I won't sound the alarm just yet :lol:
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: caseysealia on November 02, 2019, 07:05:39 AM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 02, 2019, 07:11:23 AM
What the hell is that?  :shocked: :blink:

Hasbro, I hate you sometimes.  :nope:

Post Merge: November 02, 2019, 07:17:54 AM

Those are terrifying.  Just, when Hasbro?

You know, I was talking with my friend last night on how Hasbro is destroying the classic Milton Bradley games lately.  I said Hasbro is acting like they did in the 60's when they were riding high on G.I. Joe and no matter what they did was successful.  That was followed by the 70's when the company almost ceased to exist and needed to completely restructure going into the 80's.  I think Hasbro is going to run into a wall where their decisions have alienated their fans and just sour on the general public.

And those designs are...jibbly jibbly.

Jibbly jibbly?
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on November 02, 2019, 07:20:21 AM
I've already shared my thoughts on these in some Discord servers but I'll do it here too. So first of all, I'm pretty positive these are not G5. The logo is the G4 logo, just a different color. The designs are the same as G4 Mane 6, just that they're in a new mold style. Their species are all the same (remember that they wanted to make Fluttershy a unicorn and Pinkie a pegasus?), the cutie marks are still G4 cutie marks, and the release date feels way too soon for this to be G5. These come out in January? Just two months from now? I'm pretty sure Hasbro would want to show off G5 at Toy Fair or something before its release, not after its release. I think these are just another G4 line and the upcoming CG movie's gonna be G4's last hurrah before we finally do get G5.

As for the designs themselves, they're definitely not ponies. But really neither are normal G4s? Original G4s and these new ones both equally are not horses to me. With previous G4s giving me deer vibes and these giving me cat ones. I think these are cute and I'll probably pick them up despite them being more Mane 6, just because the mold styles are so different so at least they don't like identical to nearly every other G4 Mane 6 releases. What's nice is I think these girls here may be bigger than normal G4s, if the price is anything to go by. The Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie say their MSRP will be $12.99 Canadian, which is around $10 USD. Considering these just come with a few accessories I don't think that would warrant being around $10 if they're normal G4 size, so I'm thinking they'll be a little larger?
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 02, 2019, 07:26:29 AM
I've already shared my thoughts on these in some Discord servers but I'll do it here too. So first of all, I'm pretty positive these are not G5. The logo is the G4 logo, just a different color. The designs are the same as G4 Mane 6, just that they're in a new mold style. Their species are all the same (remember that they wanted to make Fluttershy a unicorn and Pinkie a pegasus?), the cutie marks are still G4 cutie marks, and the release date feels way too soon for this to be G5. These come out in January? Just two months from now? I'm pretty sure Hasbro would want to show off G5 at Toy Fair or something before its release, not after its release. I think these are just another G4 line and the upcoming CG movie's gonna be G4's last hurrah before we finally do get G5.

As for the designs themselves, they're definitely not ponies. But really neither are normal G4s? Original G4s and these new ones both equally are not horses to me. With previous G4s giving me deer vibes and these giving me cat ones. I think these are cute and I'll probably pick them up despite them being more Mane 6, just because the mold styles are so different so at least they don't like identical to nearly every other G4 Mane 6 releases. What's nice is I think these girls here may be bigger than normal G4s, if the price is anything to go by. The Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie say their MSRP will be $12.99 Canadian, which is around $10 USD. Considering these just come with a few accessories I don't think that would warrant being around $10 if they're normal G4 size, so I'm thinking they'll be a little larger?

Doesn't mean they won't carry it over. G4s are nothing more but tweaked G3.5 Ponyvilles.

I SINCERELY hope these monstrosities aren't the next generation though.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: lonewolf on November 02, 2019, 07:36:40 AM
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I dub thee... G4.75.

2nd worst only to G3.5.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 02, 2019, 07:41:24 AM
As a trans guy, on bad days I think of myself as a deformity. These are worse.

:hug:
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Mlp Sunsparkle on November 02, 2019, 07:43:47 AM
Oh dear...  :shocked:

Bordering on scary to me, hopefully they’re one offs and there won’t be a movie sized line of these! And that rarity looks hard plastic, not a fan of that either!
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: caseysealia on November 02, 2019, 07:48:01 AM
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I dub thee... G4.75.

2nd worst only to G3.5.
I think these might be worse
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 02, 2019, 07:50:09 AM
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I dub thee... G4.75.

2nd worst only to G3.5.
I think these might be worse

Definitely worse.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: kingluke on November 02, 2019, 07:57:28 AM
As a trans guy, on bad days I think of myself as a deformity. These are worse.

:hug:

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: caseysealia on November 02, 2019, 07:57:43 AM
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I dub thee... G4.75.

2nd worst only to G3.5.
I think these might be worse

Definitely worse.
  :sad:
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Taffeta on November 02, 2019, 08:11:25 AM
I know it was just halloween.

But I...am scared.

Rarity looks like she is plotting world domination.

The others...escaped from a cute Disney movie about chipmunks.

That's all I have to say on this. Except that if this did turn out to be the start of G5, I will be saving much money. It has everything bad about G4 but in much more ugly poses.

And those faces...

Yeah...no.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 02, 2019, 08:13:23 AM
At least the tails aren't coming out of their buttholes anymore.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: SaraMari on November 02, 2019, 08:18:35 AM
Everyday we stray further from gods light...

But seriously these are hideous, absolutely the worst designs of all including 3.5. The cat shape faces and ears, the flat dead eyes, the receding jaw, the hind legs look like goat legs... WHo sculpted these, someone who never has seen a horse that can be sure 😡

I agree the hooves are nice, and I like the white highlights in Raritys mane, but these can miss me!
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on November 02, 2019, 08:19:12 AM
The more I look at them the more I do like them? Like I personally think they are G4 because they just. Look like G4 but in a new art style, with the cutie marks being the same and all. But if G5 did go with this mold I wouldn't mind it? They aren't ponies for sure, but let's face it, normal G4 aren't ponies either. Normal G4 look like deer and these look like cats. I do think they're cute though, mostly Fluttershy. For some reason she really works for me. Not as big on Rarity but I think her plastic being different, presumably due to her gimmick, has a lot to do with it. Pinkie's alright. But I really like Fluttershy for some reason in particular?

But I would be fine if these do end up being G5, as long as Hasbro fixes the variety and don't do almost exclusively Mane 6 still.... if the variety continues down the path it's been for all these years still they're definitely going to kill the franchise regardless of what mold style they choose.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: vira on November 02, 2019, 08:23:24 AM
oh noooooo look at them!!  :shocked:

i'd actually like them if their faces weren't human-ajacent. as they are? gives me the willies!
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Wardah on November 02, 2019, 08:24:19 AM
I'm honestly kinda excited for these. The art style looks very much like what is currently in if you watch cartoons.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Shrojjy on November 02, 2019, 08:30:52 AM
They would be fantastic with a different head shape. I think their eye print is actually really pretty with the sparkly texture but I dislike that they gave Pinkie "unicorn" eyes. I really love the white streak in Rarity's hair. I think it's a gimmick for the toy but it's very pretty. The head looks weird in general but I seriously do not like those ears. When G4 came out some people said they looked like cats... :silly:
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Lilja on November 02, 2019, 08:35:48 AM
I've already shared my thoughts on these in some Discord servers but I'll do it here too. So first of all, I'm pretty positive these are not G5. The logo is the G4 logo, just a different color. The designs are the same as G4 Mane 6, just that they're in a new mold style. Their species are all the same (remember that they wanted to make Fluttershy a unicorn and Pinkie a pegasus?)

I had similar thoughts, but also noticed there are some aspects of the leaked designs in these, such as the white in Rarity's hair. Also the eyes are completely different. In the end Hasbro might have decided to not change around their species. If that's the case I hope at the very least that Twilight won't be an alicorn anymore (though I think it's very likely she will be if that's what most people know her as by now).

It's also very possible these are a transitional line, to get consumers ready for the new generation. It does feel a little early to see these already. Still very exciting! Even if these designs don't appeal much to me personally. I liked G3.5, but the big chubby hooves is what made those work for me. But if kids are drawn to this style, then I think it's fine.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Ragamuffin on November 02, 2019, 08:36:41 AM
I don't think these are G5s, I think they're probably just.... G4.5... 2.
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As others mentioned, with trends and stuff... I think it's a way to modernize G4. A lot of toys nowadays have giant sparkly eyes and long eyelashes, and G4.5s only have giant flat undetailed eyes... :lol: G4.5s feel a bit dated compared to the others, and not in a "classic" way like Barbie.

I find them interesting. Not a fan of the head shape, lack of a proper neck, and ears, but I do love the eyes. And can we talk about the accessories? They mostly all look new. They're all painted properly, no solid pieces of plastic. It looks like actual effort went into these. Say what you want on the shape of the ponies, but they made them decent, quality-wise. You can't say the same for most ponies released in the past 4 years (Tempest Shadow will always be the outlier, she's amazing!).

Judging by pictures, of course. We'll see about how the hair feels and if there's any warping. :lookround:

As for Rarity's white streak, I'm pretty sure it's a toy thing, the pictures on the box have it turning blue with the water bottle.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on November 02, 2019, 08:37:12 AM
Oh I figured out why I like the Fluttershy so much in particular. She reminds me of a more chibi (and larger eared version) of some Fluttershy art I really liked from the G5 leak two years back.

Spoiler
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Just make her more slender/less chibi, give her a horn, and make her ears smaller and you kind of have that style. I think the facial expression in particular reminds me of it.

I had similar thoughts, but also noticed there are some aspects of the leaked designs in these, such as the white in Rarity's hair. Also the eyes are completely different. In the end Hasbro might have decided to not change around their species. If that's the case I hope at the very least that Twilight won't be an alicorn anymore (though I think it's very likely she will be if that's what most people know her as by now).

It's also very possible these are a transitional line, to get consumers ready for the new generation. It does feel a little early to see these already. Still very exciting! Even if these designs don't appeal much to me personally. I liked G3.5, but the big chubby hooves is what made those work for me. But if kids are drawn to this style, then I think it's fine.

Rarity's hair is because the Rarity toy shown on Amazon has a color changing gimmick. It's white so that it can change color to purple when you spray it with water.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Lilja on November 02, 2019, 08:42:45 AM
Rarity's hair is because the Rarity toy shown on Amazon has a color changing gimmick. It's white so that it can change color to purple when you spray it with water.

Thanks for pointing that out! That could be the explanation for that then. We'll see what follows. Looking forward to see what Twilight will look like in this style. :)
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 02, 2019, 08:47:30 AM
Good point about G3.5 being transitional, I guess they would have been aware of Faust wanting to give them shorter snouts at that point so they made a loose inbetween design.
I hope they're gearing us up for hoof fluff and angular designs and less for human faces.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Ragamuffin on November 02, 2019, 08:48:06 AM
Rarity's hair is because the Rarity toy shown on Amazon has a color changing gimmick. It's white so that it can change color to purple when you spray it with water.

Thanks for pointing that out! That could be the explanation for that then. We'll see what follows. Looking forward to see what Twilight will look like in this style. :)

Maybe they'll actually give Twilight blue hair, wouldn't that be a dream come true?! :lookround:

I'm more... excited (...?) About seeing Celestia or Cadence (sorry Luna but let's be real, Celestia is more important and Cadence is pink and has more release than either of them). How are they going go put these tall skinny ponies in this style? :biggrin: I can see them just giving them regular pony bodies like they have been.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Squirrelypaws on November 02, 2019, 09:40:05 AM
I actually like these! The heads, to me, look more like cats than ponies, which does make them seem a bit mismatched to the clearly-horse bodies... But they are cute to me.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: OleGrayMane on November 02, 2019, 09:48:49 AM
Decidedly not G5 unless that is to be G4-but-more-of-the-same. FiM finale/epilogue indicated, in my mind, that wouldn’t be the case. The book is, literally, closed.

As for using the figures to predict the animation style, that’s going to be hard, as G4 brushables and the show figures have not adhered to one another. The eyes are closer to the FiM movie style, but everything else…

And what is the scale of these? Looking at Rarity’s figure, you can see assembly lines on her underbody like might be found on the older princess models, although there doesn’t seem to be any obvious need for a battery (talkbox, light-up hair, flappy wings). If they are smaller, then the bodys are hollow and the head solid? More figures that have to be nailed down so they don’t take headers.

So… yeah… what the hay?

Lastly: Potions? Fluttershy is a mermaid (not hippogriffy/seapony) and Pinkie Pie a “maybe unicorn” wearing a flower headress? Rarity a princess sans wings, although I don’t see much incongruity there. Perhaps these are transformational figures related to the potions. I avoid spoilers, so I’ve no real idea, but I’m guessing age regression or something and they live out childhood fantasies. Maybe?

PS: Love the hooves. Makes them look less like Play Dough and more equine. Keep the hooves, lose the head.

PPS: Hair still looks 💩y
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: cloud_weaver on November 02, 2019, 09:58:49 AM
Erm....not my favorite.  I stopped picking up new ponies when they switched to the G4.5 though.  Hope they find an audience somewhere, but it’s definitely not here. :/

I feel like they’re trying to keep ponies going for as long as possible, and trying different molds to see what appeals to different audiences.  I think this one’s a swing and a miss.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Al-1701 on November 02, 2019, 10:31:20 AM
What the hell is that?  :shocked: :blink:

Hasbro, I hate you sometimes.  :nope:

Post Merge: November 02, 2019, 07:17:54 AM

Those are terrifying.  Just, when Hasbro?

You know, I was talking with my friend last night on how Hasbro is destroying the classic Milton Bradley games lately.  I said Hasbro is acting like they did in the 60's when they were riding high on G.I. Joe and no matter what they did was successful.  That was followed by the 70's when the company almost ceased to exist and needed to completely restructure going into the 80's.  I think Hasbro is going to run into a wall where their decisions have alienated their fans and just sour on the general public.

And those designs are...jibbly jibbly.

Jibbly jibbly?
However you spell Strong Bad's creeped out mummblings.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Ragamuffin on November 02, 2019, 11:16:21 AM
I noticed how they really do have forward-facing eyes now as well as a human jaw. Ew. So I whipped this up lazily half-asleep quickly referencing* my own ponies.

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*I looked over my shoulder at the ponies on my shelf and thought "yeah, that's close enough".

Where are their chins?

I still stand by me liking the detailed eyes and the accessories, but the face gets worse the more you look at it. :XD:

At least they have more sculpting than G4.5s....
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Sora on November 02, 2019, 11:19:27 AM
Not sure how I feel. On one hand, they're terrifying. On the other... Still more detail than G4.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Mewtwofan1 on November 02, 2019, 11:40:05 AM
I...I don’t think I like them. There’s just something in the eyes (which are beautiful, but they’re a bit too low on the face for my taste) and facial expression that just isn’t right. I think it’s the front facing eyes and mouth.  And the heads are too large. I mean, cartoon characters do usually have large heads, but this is a bit weird. And I don’t like the long, spindly toothpick legs. I really hope this is just transitional, or a one off thing. Not what g5 actually looks like.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on November 02, 2019, 11:58:10 AM
Nightmare fuel  :bolt:  this is scary I think I’ll give this a miss
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Zapper on November 02, 2019, 12:19:10 PM
The art style looks very much like what is currently in if you watch cartoons.

Please provide a couple of different cartoons where horses look like this (and are not meant to be a parody of MLP).
I can think of Unikitty when I see Pinkie Pie, but I can't come up with anything else. Also, Unikitty is already a bit older by now.

Where are their chins?

Must be the Bob's Burgers :lol:
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: AvianWing on November 02, 2019, 12:22:05 PM
What the...
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Sakuyamon on November 02, 2019, 01:15:59 PM
I am fine with the hooves... but the rest is no good... I especially dont like those overbite snouts...
Sure, I wasnt keen on the g4s originally either and I thought they looked more like mice than ponies, but the g4 was a lot cuter than this.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on November 02, 2019, 01:49:02 PM
What region of the devils' playground did these ponies creep out from?
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 02, 2019, 01:58:19 PM
What region of the devils' playground did these ponies creep out from?

The Kindergarten one.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Minty_Magic on November 02, 2019, 04:02:12 PM
Yikes, I like the feathered feet on them, but that’s about it. :huh: I know G4 didn’t look much like ponies either, but these feel so much worse. I hate how their eyes are placed front and center, and their snouts look so awkward. They must look like emojis on a horse body.

I definitely think this is G4’s last hurrah before G5. Unless they’re using all the exact same characters with no changes, this has to still be g4. I’ll probably buy just one of these since I like to have a pony from every gen, and this is radically different enough to be like, a half gen or something. If this style is where G5 is headed though, I may not have to worry about making space for new ponies. I can’t see myself collecting a toy line that looks like that.

This may be an unpopular opinion, but is anyone else sick of chibi stuff? Like...every toy out there seems to be going for the huge eyes, hardly any other features look and I just don’t think it’s cute. They look kinda creepy a lot of the time! I know that very much seems to be the style right now, and kids must like it, but some variety would be nice.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 02, 2019, 04:18:08 PM
I feel bad for saying this, but... they look more like cats than ponies to me.

I always hated it when people would say previous generations didn't look like ponies, because they all did to me - just their own design of ponies.  The only exception I found was some of the babies (like in G3.5 and G4), some of the G4 colts, and some of the earlier G4 toys kind of looked like deer to me, but they got better.

Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 02, 2019, 04:30:59 PM

I never liked it to begin with and I hate it more every year.
Yikes, I like the feathered feet on them, but that’s about it. :huh: I know G4 didn’t look much like ponies either, but these feel so much worse. I hate how their eyes are placed front and center, and their snouts look so awkward. They must look like emojis on a horse body.

I definitely think this is G4’s last hurrah before G5. Unless they’re using all the exact same characters with no changes, this has to still be g4. I’ll probably buy just one of these since I like to have a pony from every gen, and this is radically different enough to be like, a half gen or something. If this style is where G5 is headed though, I may not have to worry about making space for new ponies. I can’t see myself collecting a toy line that looks like that.

This may be an unpopular opinion, but is anyone else sick of chibi stuff? Like...every toy out there seems to be going for the huge eyes, hardly any other features look and I just don’t think it’s cute. They look kinda creepy a lot of the time! I know that very much seems to be the style right now, and kids must like it, but some variety would be nice.
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Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Sunset on November 02, 2019, 05:38:46 PM
Not a fan.  I did have to warm up to G4 but I don’t think that’s going to happen with this one for me.  To be honest there isn’t anything about these that I like, not even the hooves.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: StayGoldPonyboy on November 02, 2019, 05:43:03 PM
Thanks I hate it! g5 is dead to me already
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: SunbeamV on November 02, 2019, 05:56:56 PM
oh geez. um. this is gonna take some......adjustment. their eyes are almost fully forward facing like a predator animal?!  T_T

I don't fully hate the unicorn mold so I might grab Rarity (and Twilight, if they release her) because half the reason I collect is to document the history of MLP in hopes it can go to a museum when I pass. but I'm not gonna love it 😂

I feel like I took g3.5 and the entirety of g4 for granted ._.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: lonewolf on November 02, 2019, 06:44:32 PM
Oh I figured out why I like the Fluttershy so much in particular. She reminds me of a more chibi (and larger eared version) of some Fluttershy art I really liked from the G5 leak two years back.

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Just make her more slender/less chibi, give her a horn, and make her ears smaller and you kind of have that style. I think the facial expression in particular reminds me of it.



Yep there's a lot of similarities to the toy and that art, so they may in fact be based on them a bit.

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Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: CloudyGlow on November 02, 2019, 07:06:36 PM
I noticed how they really do have forward-facing eyes now as well as a human jaw. Ew. So I whipped this up lazily half-asleep quickly referencing* my own ponies.

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*I looked over my shoulder at the ponies on my shelf and thought "yeah, that's close enough".

Where are their chins?

I still stand by me liking the detailed eyes and the accessories, but the face gets worse the more you look at it. :XD:

At least they have more sculpting than G4.5s....
This drawing is really helpful in illustrating what went wrong.

My mom says they look like cats. I think they look like the Equestria Girls minis.

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Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Poster on November 02, 2019, 07:16:06 PM
I might warm up to these if the hair quality's all right. I'm trying to gauge it from the boxed photos but not really having any success. My hopes aren't terribly high, though.

Also I hope there'll be a non-gimmick Rarity. Non-gimmick versions for all of them!

I noticed how they really do have forward-facing eyes now as well as a human jaw. Ew. So I whipped this up lazily half-asleep quickly referencing* my own ponies.

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*I looked over my shoulder at the ponies on my shelf and thought "yeah, that's close enough".

Where are their chins?

I still stand by me liking the detailed eyes and the accessories, but the face gets worse the more you look at it. :XD:

At least they have more sculpting than G4.5s....

It really does seem as though they're evolving to emphasize the face more and more, doesn't it? Bigger face, smaller body.

What if G6 were to consist of just big, pointy-eared masks with hair, with the body reduced to nothing but a tiny, vaguely equine stand that can't even be seen from the front. XD
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on November 02, 2019, 08:31:16 PM
The big brony site edited their report on these to say that a source they're closely involved with contacted them and told them that they are not G5. They also point out that the transition to G5 movie was delayed to 2021, so yeah putting out toys for it over a year ahead of time wouldn't really make sense. As I suspected, these do seem to just be more G4 toys.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Koudoawaia on November 02, 2019, 10:53:02 PM
Someone on Twitter was trying to call these G4.5. Um those exist kind of exist already
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: Sakuyamon on November 02, 2019, 11:08:01 PM
Someone on Twitter was trying to call these G4.5. Um those exist kind of exist already
G4.5 are the late 2010 molds. This is more like G4.7.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: hilamb on November 03, 2019, 01:10:17 AM
Hmm, looks.. interesting. I like the ears tough, they are cute.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: otocolobus_manul on November 03, 2019, 01:19:04 AM
why this
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: pyrodarknessanny on November 03, 2019, 02:58:42 AM
hard nope
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Nemesis on November 03, 2019, 03:17:48 AM
Eh... I like the feathered hooves and body shape, but the heads are pretty much just cats now. XD I really do like how the body is more defined and equine (albeit still very cartoony), especially the back legs.

I don’t hate them... just so long as they’re a transitionary thing and not G5. I might get a few. The accessories are really nice.
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: PinkieLopBun on November 03, 2019, 04:08:40 AM
Someone on Twitter was trying to call these G4.5. Um those exist kind of exist already
One of my friends was calling it the same thing. To be fair, I don't think it's that well known outside the collecting community.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: SpacePinto on November 03, 2019, 04:39:30 AM
And here I thought they couldn't possibly make them any less pony-like...
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Harmonie on November 03, 2019, 05:06:25 AM
Wrong direction, Hasbro! Please return them to be more like pony/horse like. These look like cats. =/
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Barnacle_lady on November 03, 2019, 05:24:35 AM
Very ugly and I don't want to collect these. I like cats but I like ponies more.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Zapper on November 03, 2019, 05:53:43 AM
I like cats but I like ponies more.

This is cracking me up for some reason :lol:

I think we need to work out what we are going to call drastic redesigns within one generation. G4 has been rather unique in that area in that in order to sell the same characters over and over they need to change their style once in a while.

So far these look gimmicky to me since they are so big. Kind of like the big headed "duckface" baby versions we saw earlier. Or even Cutie Mark Crew. They could be their own line.

If they completely replace the previous brushable style could we consider them G4.7?

G3.5 - in hindsight - looked a lot like a transitional stage from G3 to G4 while G4.5 looks more like an intentional - but belated - way to freshen up the FiM show brushables.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: gabumon on November 03, 2019, 06:16:01 AM
does anyone have photos of the backs of the packaging?  maybe it explains “The
Ponies Drink a magical Potion that changes them into Chihuahuas!”. with some sort of Pound Puppy tie in?
Title: Re: Upcoming movie design ponies
Post by: SunbeamV on November 03, 2019, 06:22:09 AM
As a trans guy, on bad days I think of myself as a deformity. These are worse.

I'm so sorry you experience that but as a fellow trans person I think I'm gonna pee my pants laughing!  :drunk:

I noticed how they really do have forward-facing eyes now as well as a human jaw. Ew. So I whipped this up lazily half-asleep quickly referencing* my own ponies.

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*I looked over my shoulder at the ponies on my shelf and thought "yeah, that's close enough".

Where are their chins?

I still stand by me liking the detailed eyes and the accessories, but the face gets worse the more you look at it. :XD:

At least they have more sculpting than G4.5s....

can I just say, this drawing is incredible! It illustrates the stylistic evolution so well, amd you make g3 look so graceful! Now that I see them all lined up like this, I also think part of the problem is that the eyes are way too low on the face on these new ponies?
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Wardah on November 03, 2019, 07:48:07 AM
The art style looks very much like what is currently in if you watch cartoons.

Please provide a couple of different cartoons where horses look like this (and are not meant to be a parody of MLP).
I can think of Unikitty when I see Pinkie Pie, but I can't come up with anything else. Also, Unikitty is already a bit older by now.

I was thinking mostly human centered cartoons like the newer Power Puff Girls and Teen Titans Go but there is a cartoon called Rainbow Butterfly Unicorn Kitty that these guys would look right at home in.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Zapper on November 03, 2019, 08:26:28 AM
The art style looks very much like what is currently in if you watch cartoons.

Please provide a couple of different cartoons where horses look like this (and are not meant to be a parody of MLP).
I can think of Unikitty when I see Pinkie Pie, but I can't come up with anything else. Also, Unikitty is already a bit older by now.

I was thinking mostly human centered cartoons like the newer Power Puff Girls and Teen Titans Go but there is a cartoon called Rainbow Butterfly Unicorn Kitty that these guys would look right at home in.

This just confirms that these redesigns look a lot like cats and people :lol:
And now that you mentioned TTG! all I see is Beast Boy when I look at them.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: RoseNoire on November 03, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
Those G4.75 remind me of this weird video, rofl. https://youtu.be/ZiVhpMbCA8c

As for my opinion,  it doesn't differ much from the majority.

I like the feathered legs, it is really cute, their body is not my favorite, but could have been decent if it weren't for the head. It's rather nightmare inducing and way too cat-like. Won't buy for sure. Hasbro's direction those days is way too much towards those Lol dolls trends and similar creep shows I despise.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on November 03, 2019, 09:02:11 AM
Maybe it's a Halloween series...? With the scary horror look and all..  :lol:

Hard pass.

First thing I thought of when I saw these was L.O.L. features. That, and My Little Cat obviously.

The oversized head, the basic paint job. Just no. At least the muzzle doesn't look like a coat hanger this time.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: allymer on November 03, 2019, 09:24:33 AM
it really is painful to watch alas... I do miss my pretty kitten . ahhh no my eyes are burning  lol. I really hope some one made a mistake soon to be fixed. surly not a while like based on those horrible sketch of a toy.
there's not even a bit of mlp life in this thing. I know we had so many creation over the past 35 years of ponies and some up n down. but honestly Hasbro acting out very randomly lately with ponies related. they just recently realise those g1/g3 fake looking nostalgia supposedly pones. which got us wonder are those the next molds for the future line. they were a begging of somthi mg and had a good feel to it. those are amazingly horrible ponies and I do hope it's not our next 10 years.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Wardah on November 03, 2019, 10:40:40 AM
The art style looks very much like what is currently in if you watch cartoons.

Please provide a couple of different cartoons where horses look like this (and are not meant to be a parody of MLP).
I can think of Unikitty when I see Pinkie Pie, but I can't come up with anything else. Also, Unikitty is already a bit older by now.

I was thinking mostly human centered cartoons like the newer Power Puff Girls and Teen Titans Go but there is a cartoon called Rainbow Butterfly Unicorn Kitty that these guys would look right at home in.

This just confirms that these redesigns look a lot like cats and people :lol:
And now that you mentioned TTG! all I see is Beast Boy when I look at them.

Yeah it basically looks like they took the current cartoon trends and tried to apply them to ponies. Since they are not G5 and G5 isn't ready yet I wonder if these are just Hasbro's way to keep ponies in the stores since the FIM show ended. Maybe there will be a hastily made web series to go along with them.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Carrehz on November 03, 2019, 10:57:42 AM
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Since they are not G5 and G5 isn't ready yet I wonder if these are just Hasbro's way to keep ponies in the stores since the FIM show ended.

I'm really hoping this is the case...
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Teddy on November 03, 2019, 10:59:26 AM
The bodies and furry hooves are ok with me, but those heads/ears/faces....eeekk!!! >.<
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: caseysealia on November 03, 2019, 11:02:37 AM
The art style looks very much like what is currently in if you watch cartoons.

Please provide a couple of different cartoons where horses look like this (and are not meant to be a parody of MLP).
I can think of Unikitty when I see Pinkie Pie, but I can't come up with anything else. Also, Unikitty is already a bit older by now.

I was thinking mostly human centered cartoons like the newer Power Puff Girls and Teen Titans Go but there is a cartoon called Rainbow Butterfly Unicorn Kitty that these guys would look right at home in.

This just confirms that these redesigns look a lot like cats and people :lol:
And now that you mentioned TTG! all I see is Beast Boy when I look at them.

Yeah it basically looks like they took the current cartoon trends and tried to apply them to ponies. Since they are not G5 and G5 isn't ready yet I wonder if these are just Hasbro's way to keep ponies in the stores since the FIM show ended. Maybe there will be a hastily made web series to go along with them.
Like Newborn Cuties...
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Nemesis on November 03, 2019, 01:41:58 PM
I guess we can at least be happy that the duck-face baby Twilight isn’t the new look of MLP? Just a grim reminder that it can ALWAYS get worse...
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Shadowperla on November 03, 2019, 01:52:47 PM
*hides* No >:(
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 03, 2019, 01:54:58 PM
there is a cartoon called Rainbow Butterfly Unicorn Kitty that these guys would look right at home in.
Love that show (well, I do when it isn't having gross moments that is... I do have a nostalgic attachment to it, though.)  I wouldn't say they fitted in there, though they look closer to Unikitty's design, which is pretty different in terms of design.

I was pretty much thinking of Unikitty myself when I saw them, I just didn't say (I know at least one person here did.)
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Carrehz on November 03, 2019, 03:28:32 PM
Honestly, the first thing I thought of when I saw them was Hairdorables. Except Hairdorables are nowhere near as creepy as these things (and that's saying something, since I'm personally not a fan of 'em). :yikes:
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: lalalei2001 on November 03, 2019, 04:41:13 PM
They look cute to me, but definitely more like cats than ponies. It reminds me of this moment from The Glass Princess where Heart Throb turns into a kitty.

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Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: achab1984 on November 03, 2019, 04:56:03 PM
I want to cry!!! I was hoping for good ponies!!! These are just horrible! These are not ponies! They are cats with hooves! I thought G4 looked like deer. Those are more cute then these things! Hasbro is trying to taint that pony name!!!!! :(
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Sparkle Pony on November 03, 2019, 05:30:30 PM
These things are HORRIFYING. Like, yes, they could be worse, but I like to have standards higher than slightly above rock bottom.  :lol:
I'll just wait until Hasbro comes to their senses and save myself some cash.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Ragamuffin on November 03, 2019, 05:47:55 PM
Honestly, the first thing I thought of when I saw them was Hairdorables. Except Hairdorables are nowhere near as creepy as these things (and that's saying something, since I'm personally not a fan of 'em). :yikes:
Me too! It's the way the eyes are IMO. The way they're all looking to the side and the "flatness" of it. To me it's a mix of Hairdoables and those Poopsie unicorns. :yikes:
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 03, 2019, 05:57:32 PM
These things are HORRIFYING. Like, yes, they could be worse, but I like to have standards higher than slightly above rock bottom.  :lol:
I'll just wait until Hasbro comes to their senses and save myself some cash.

Seems like that's the best course of action.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: SaraMari on November 03, 2019, 06:35:44 PM
I feel like hairdorables is doing better at ponies than these abominations, even if it's got a weird thick neck I can recognize it as a horse animal

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Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Ragamuffin on November 03, 2019, 06:46:11 PM
I feel like hairdorables is doing better at ponies than these abominations, even if it's got a weird thick neck I can recognize it as a horse animal

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This illustrates well why unsculpted eyes are a horrendous idea (they're like....sort of concave here...??!?) but other than that this is adorable! Awesome barrette too.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on November 03, 2019, 07:08:54 PM
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I feel like hairdorables is doing better at ponies than these abominations, even if it's got a weird thick neck I can recognize it as a horse animal

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This illustrates well why unsculpted eyes are a horrendous idea (they're like....sort of concave here...??!?) but other than that this is adorable! Awesome barrette too.
I actually have all 3 of the equines in that line lol. The Unicorn is the only one that doesn't seem to have proper eye markings while the Zebra and Pony does from the looks of it... or at least small indents of where the eyes are supposed to go :P

Anyway Hasbro needs to go back to pony and not these weird hybrids (although Hybrids are fun just not how Hasbro is executing the look lol)
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: SaraMari on November 03, 2019, 07:12:47 PM
Ragamuffin yes exactly, please sculpt on some eyes. Is it really going to sky rocket production costs if they do or something?
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Shy Violet on November 03, 2019, 09:51:04 PM
 :crazy: Yikes, horrifying is right. These look like toddler toys. I really hope this is a filler line and G5 has better things in store. I'm very disappointed
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: WingsOfMasquerade on November 03, 2019, 10:49:22 PM
"What is so bad about horses or ponies that their every feature must be eliminated"?

Terrible!
I will never own one of these. Collecting OVER.
I didn't particularly like the 'movie styles' or g4.5 whatevers, but I got that fashionstyle shimmery Luna because Luna. I didn't get anything else out of it though because the sphere heads and the way they're not on the neck 'right' any more bothers me more. They're not going to see another dime out of me with this style. However, that doesn't matter because I'm 1 person and Hasbrew doesn't care. (oh no someone is complaining on the internet!)

How did this get created? Answer stolen from Tumblr:

Hasbro "Have u ever seen a horse"
Designer "No wat dat"
Hasbro: "Ok ur hired now make ponny"

These......are not ponies?
Why can we not have ponies in our my little pony?
Why?
Why?
What is so hideous, ugly, stupid and awful about horses that EVERY SINGLE HORSE FEATURE must constantly be eliminated?
Why are ponies so bad that nothing can be allowed to look like them?
I just don't understand. They've got hooves. That's about it. There's no horse-like joints, they've even put a goat knee on the rear leg to eliminate pony-like-ness. Nothing at all horse like about the head, nor the neck which is almost non existent and also a tube. No hair on the neck...which is where horse hair IS...tail better positioned but still meh. Shortened the body again...short neck. It's opposite day. Everything these days seems it has to be stylized into almost unrecognizability for whatever reason but, stylization is one thing and morphing into an unrecognizable creature is something else.

It's like, this toy could be considered cute.
People are allowed to like it, that's fine.
It looks like that Gizmo Gremlin from Gremlins, and people like that.
The quality can be good, paint good, eye detail good, hair good etc. It can be a perfectly ok toy.
But it isn't a pony.

It's like every single thing they could possibly get wrong with the face, they got wrong.
But how?
The ears going all the way down the sides of the head? Flat eyes, eyes on the direct front of the face, nostrils on the front like a pig, total elimination of....face? Yes the lower jaw is out, but no pony has a completely flat face like a Persian cat. Whoever said they're trying more and more to look like emojis is correct...as it seems like the entire end goal of every single toy now is to look as much like a smiley face as possible.

Here's their friend in real life the Damascus Goat*
https://images.app.goo.gl/7i3uxSQrnN7YLwnJ9
Have fun with a great beauty
https://images.app.goo.gl/A4J5iApGVjCqa4qi6

They are breeding these to eliminate the fact that the face was long, so now it is short and good and the eyes are migrating to the front.


G4 could never have an accurate toy anyway, because the show was done with flash so they had 'eye flounder'* going on 100% of the time.
The eyes always migrated around to whatever side of the face was shown, like a flounder fish who is flat but both eyes are either on the left 'side of the coin' or the right. When faced forward, the eyes didn't foreshorten, they just...migrated to the front of the head. G1 cartoon was guilty of this too. The art done by Ragamuffin was actually done looking at the toys and shows the point. It's probably also why that new G1 art is always 100% in profile--because any other angle actually induces difficulty and perspective into art because you're not drawing a flat featureless disk any more.

*Eye flounder is caused because humans think that both eyes must be visible at all times or emotion is impossible to portray. That's because humans have front facing eyes and are meant to only be seen from the front when engaging with one another. You can see this on eeeeeverything, Sven the reindeer, every Disney horse imaginable, Chicken Run, those Spirit Stallion Cimmaron horses, shopkins ponies, etc everything looks like it was either crossed with a chimp or is a big mutant dog with the front facing close-together eyes. ("Emotion impossible to portray"---this is so clearly a lie / wrong belief but here we are)

*Nightmare inducing goat in many opinions
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Spectrum on November 04, 2019, 01:02:03 AM
At an angle they look okay?

Doubt these are G5. IMO they’re far more likely to be transitional shelf-warmers like G3.5. I think they look better than the G4.5 open-mouths.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Shaiyeh on November 04, 2019, 04:20:23 AM
I.... don't hate them. Hope this isn't g5 though, I wouldn't like to see this design over and over for however many years, but honestly, I don't actually hate the design :yikes: It's definitely something else though... XD
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Zapper on November 04, 2019, 05:41:20 AM
G4 could never have an accurate toy anyway, because the show was done with flash so they had 'eye flounder'* going on 100% of the time.
The eyes always migrated around to whatever side of the face was shown, like a flounder fish who is flat but both eyes are either on the left 'side of the coin' or the right. When faced forward, the eyes didn't foreshorten, they just...migrated to the front of the head. G1 cartoon was guilty of this too. The art done by Ragamuffin was actually done looking at the toys and shows the point. It's probably also why that new G1 art is always 100% in profile--because any other angle actually induces difficulty and perspective into art because you're not drawing a flat featureless disk any more.

*Eye flounder is caused because humans think that both eyes must be visible at all times or emotion is impossible to portray. That's because humans have front facing eyes and are meant to only be seen from the front when engaging with one another. You can see this on eeeeeverything, Sven the reindeer, every Disney horse imaginable, Chicken Run, those Spirit Stallion Cimmaron horses, shopkins ponies, etc everything looks like it was either crossed with a chimp or is a big mutant dog with the front facing close-together eyes. ("Emotion impossible to portray"---this is so clearly a lie / wrong belief but here we are)

That's the sad truth right here. It's funny because the horse is such an iconic animal. Human society evolved alongside it and we seem to have a special bond/interest with/in the equine. We consider horses to be very beautiful animals, symmetrical.
And shetland ponies are already extremely cute by our standards. They have childish features. Big eyes with pronounced lashes, bulbous foreheads, short legs and chubby bellies.

The Hairdorables unicorn shown in this thread works well as a superdeformed/chibi pony design because it blends the horsey aspects with what is in demand when it comes to dolls (long hair, big eyes, unnatural colors) but it doesn't look predatory/simean or too freakish.

Ever since G3.5 MLP has been on a kick to make the ponies more and more humanoid. The entire "ponies are little girls" Hello Kitty thing (for anyone who doesn't know, Hello Kitty is not supposed to be a cat. She is a British school girl and owns a non-anthro cat... lol)
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 04, 2019, 05:42:21 AM
"What is so bad about horses or ponies that their every feature must be eliminated"?

Terrible!
I will never own one of these. Collecting OVER.
I didn't particularly like the 'movie styles' or g4.5 whatevers, but I got that fashionstyle shimmery Luna because Luna. I didn't get anything else out of it though because the sphere heads and the way they're not on the neck 'right' any more bothers me more. They're not going to see another dime out of me with this style. However, that doesn't matter because I'm 1 person and Hasbrew doesn't care. (oh no someone is complaining on the internet!)

How did this get created? Answer stolen from Tumblr:

Hasbro "Have u ever seen a horse"
Designer "No wat dat"
Hasbro: "Ok ur hired now make ponny"

These......are not ponies?
Why can we not have ponies in our my little pony?
Why?
Why?
What is so hideous, ugly, stupid and awful about horses that EVERY SINGLE HORSE FEATURE must constantly be eliminated?
Why are ponies so bad that nothing can be allowed to look like them?
I just don't understand. They've got hooves. That's about it. There's no horse-like joints, they've even put a goat knee on the rear leg to eliminate pony-like-ness. Nothing at all horse like about the head, nor the neck which is almost non existent and also a tube. No hair on the neck...which is where horse hair IS...tail better positioned but still meh. Shortened the body again...short neck. It's opposite day. Everything these days seems it has to be stylized into almost unrecognizability for whatever reason but, stylization is one thing and morphing into an unrecognizable creature is something else.

It's like, this toy could be considered cute.
People are allowed to like it, that's fine.
It looks like that Gizmo Gremlin from Gremlins, and people like that.
The quality can be good, paint good, eye detail good, hair good etc. It can be a perfectly ok toy.
But it isn't a pony.

It's like every single thing they could possibly get wrong with the face, they got wrong.
But how?
The ears going all the way down the sides of the head? Flat eyes, eyes on the direct front of the face, nostrils on the front like a pig, total elimination of....face? Yes the lower jaw is out, but no pony has a completely flat face like a Persian cat. Whoever said they're trying more and more to look like emojis is correct...as it seems like the entire end goal of every single toy now is to look as much like a smiley face as possible.

Here's their friend in real life the Damascus Goat*
https://images.app.goo.gl/7i3uxSQrnN7YLwnJ9
Have fun with a great beauty
https://images.app.goo.gl/A4J5iApGVjCqa4qi6

They are breeding these to eliminate the fact that the face was long, so now it is short and good and the eyes are migrating to the front.


G4 could never have an accurate toy anyway, because the show was done with flash so they had 'eye flounder'* going on 100% of the time.
The eyes always migrated around to whatever side of the face was shown, like a flounder fish who is flat but both eyes are either on the left 'side of the coin' or the right. When faced forward, the eyes didn't foreshorten, they just...migrated to the front of the head. G1 cartoon was guilty of this too. The art done by Ragamuffin was actually done looking at the toys and shows the point. It's probably also why that new G1 art is always 100% in profile--because any other angle actually induces difficulty and perspective into art because you're not drawing a flat featureless disk any more.

*Eye flounder is caused because humans think that both eyes must be visible at all times or emotion is impossible to portray. That's because humans have front facing eyes and are meant to only be seen from the front when engaging with one another. You can see this on eeeeeverything, Sven the reindeer, every Disney horse imaginable, Chicken Run, those Spirit Stallion Cimmaron horses, shopkins ponies, etc everything looks like it was either crossed with a chimp or is a big mutant dog with the front facing close-together eyes. ("Emotion impossible to portray"---this is so clearly a lie / wrong belief but here we are)

*Nightmare inducing goat in many opinions


I blame Lauren Faust. She's the one who came up with this awful style to begin with.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Zapper on November 04, 2019, 05:52:55 AM
I blame Lauren Faust. She's the one who came up with this awful style to begin with.

She worked with the G3.5/Newborn Cuties designs, tho. The blame is on Hasbro's decision makers and their estimation of what the consumers want. Faust is not the single mastermind behind FiM, even tho her fans would like us to believe that.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 04, 2019, 05:57:37 AM
I blame Lauren Faust. She's the one who came up with this awful style to begin with.

She worked with the G3.5/Newborn Cuties designs, tho. The blame is on Hasbro's decision makers and their estimation of what the consumers want. Faust is not the single mastermind behind FiM, even tho her fans would like us to believe that.

I didn't say she was the mastermind. Nor am I a fan of any of her work. But the deformed and ugly designs are apparent in everything she taints, and she hit mlp with the ugly stick until the muzzle was chipped down to a beak.

Hasbro is to blame as well for the awful 3.5 and Newborn Cuties. And they're partially to blame for this.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Zapper on November 04, 2019, 06:03:30 AM
I blame Lauren Faust. She's the one who came up with this awful style to begin with.

She worked with the G3.5/Newborn Cuties designs, tho. The blame is on Hasbro's decision makers and their estimation of what the consumers want. Faust is not the single mastermind behind FiM, even tho her fans would like us to believe that.

I didn't say she was the mastermind. Nor am a fan of any of her work. But the deformed and ugly designs are apparent in everything she taints.

Hasbro is to blame as well for the awful 3.5 and Newborn Cuties. And they're partially to blame for this.

They hired her because they thought her style would fit their bobblehead vision. And I am sorry but Hasbro is not "partially" to blame. The are the company who creates these and hires the talents they want to carry out the job. They get full blame :lol:
They could have gotten someone else and not Lauren Faust. But they didn't.
LPS went into the same style direction and Lauren wasn't involved in that. In fact, the artist who redesigned MLP so we could have G3 is the same woman who came up with the LPS bobblehead/big eye style.
Hasbro tells the artists what to do, not vice versa.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 04, 2019, 06:04:41 AM
I blame Lauren Faust. She's the one who came up with this awful style to begin with.

She worked with the G3.5/Newborn Cuties designs, tho. The blame is on Hasbro's decision makers and their estimation of what the consumers want. Faust is not the single mastermind behind FiM, even tho her fans would like us to believe that.

I didn't say she was the mastermind. Nor am a fan of any of her work. But the deformed and ugly designs are apparent in everything she taints.

Hasbro is to blame as well for the awful 3.5 and Newborn Cuties. And they're partially to blame for this.

They hired her because they thought her style would fit their bobblehead vision. And I am sorry but Hasbro is not "partially" to blame. The are the company who creates these and hires the talents they want to carry out the job. They get full blame :lol:
They could have gotten someone else and not Lauren Faust. But they didn't.
LPS went into the same style direction and Lauren wasn't involved in that. In fact, the artist who redesigned MLP so we could have G3 is the same woman who came up with the LPS bobblehead/big eye style.
Hasbro tells the artists what to do, not vice versa.

Didn't she come to them with her fanart though?

Anywho its too early and I'm too tired to cross swords with you. We'll just agree to disagree and leave it at that.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Zapper on November 04, 2019, 06:16:26 AM
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Didn't she come to them with her fanart though?

Yes, that's called a pitch.
Style-wise, she gave them what they were looking for: more G3.5 proportions. She wasn't involved with G3.5, she went by these proportions because it fit her style and she essentially drew G1 ponies in that style that Hasbro was favoring. Had she drawn them as more ponyish ponies they probably wouldn't have hired her.
Considering they also didn't want the G1 characters she drew. Only one they okayed was Applejack. That's pretty much MLP history at this point :lol: Rainbow Dash was Firefly, Pinkie Pie was Surprise and so on.
Lauren Faust pitched a sort of G1 reboot to them and they torpedoed a lot of her plans but wanted her style.

That's just how she draws. Also, these new designs don't really look Faustish. She's been gone from Hasbro for a while now.
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 04, 2019, 06:34:03 AM
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Didn't she come to them with her fanart though?

Yes, that's called a pitch.
Style-wise, she gave them what they were looking for: more G3.5 proportions. She wasn't involved with G3.5, she went by these proportions because it fit her style and she essentially drew G1 ponies in that style that Hasbro was favoring. Had she drawn them as more ponyish ponies they probably wouldn't have hired her.
Considering they also didn't want the G1 characters she drew. Only one they okayed was Applejack. That's pretty much MLP history at this point :lol: Rainbow Dash was Firefly, Pinkie Pie was Surprise and so on.
Lauren Faust pitched a sort of G1 reboot to them and they torpedoed a lot of her plans but wanted her style.

That's just how she draws. Also, these new designs don't really look Faustish. She's been gone from Hasbro for a while now.

I know she has.

Anywho, these are still ugly.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: The_Loner on November 04, 2019, 06:36:16 AM
What the....?!? :shocked:




It makes me sad what My Little Pony has come to :cloud: With every new design they get further and further away from what they originally were! :(
Title: Re: New G4 pony designs
Post by: Harmonie on November 04, 2019, 06:57:53 AM
I want to cry!!! I was hoping for good ponies!!! These are just horrible! These are not ponies! They are cats with hooves! I thought G4 looked like deer. Those are more cute then these things! Hasbro is trying to taint that pony name!!!!! :(

Agreed. Even if not properly pony-like, the original G4 design of MLP can at least be considered cute.

These just look like... I don’t know. They kind of remind me of the most recent Littlest Pet Shop and let me just say that style has never appealed to me in the slightest.

Whatever they remind me of, it’s always cats. I really don’t like that direction at all. Especially not this over-the-top Littlest Pet Shop/Unikitty/Unicorn Butterfly Kitty style. It’s just not good.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 04, 2019, 09:29:12 AM
To be fair... I don't really see a deformed/bobblehead look in Lauren's design for the ponies at all.  I can easily tell they're ponies, just ponies drawn in a certain style (unlike these cat-like ponies, which don't resemble her style at all.)  Like I said, it was the babies and the colts where I had a hard time telling that they were ponies.

I can see a bobblehead-ish look in Galaxy Girls (which Lauren can't really "taint" as it was her creation anyway, regardless of it never happening), and... there's a sort of "deformed" look (not sure I like saying that... sounds disrespectful of me) in that new Superhero show she's doing, which actually surprised me, as it looked like a departure from her normal style, but maybe she'd done others shows of this style.

I only know the things I mentioned as being Lauren's designs - possibly Wander Over Yonder as well, but that was a joint thing with Craig, so it could be his design, and the alien-esque cast makes it less noticeable to me.  Did she do some designs for Fosters Home For Imaginary Friends as well?  Again, shared with Craig, but looking back Mac and Terrance could be viewed as bobblehead...

Maybe I just like how she draws non-humans/humanoid characters better (though Galaxy Girls looked good in my opinion)?
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: brightberry on November 04, 2019, 09:55:09 AM
In the out of the box pics, I think they're kinda cute.  Not ponies, but cute.  But when they're in the box, something goes very wrong.  They look so... intense.   :blink:

It's very unlikely I will buy any of these, even as gifts.

I don't think LOL dolls are popular because of their crazy faces.  I'm sure it has more to do with box openings on YouTube/Instagram.  Though, those face designs do work better because they're actually babies.  Or, suppose to be.

Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Carrehz on November 04, 2019, 10:04:14 AM
Did she do some designs for Fosters Home For Imaginary Friends as well?  Again, shared with Craig, but looking back Mac and Terrance could be viewed as bobblehead...

I'm 99% sure she did, yeah (I have a feeling Goo and the imaginary puppies were Lauren's; I could be misremembering, though - my FHFIF fandom days were a looooong time ago!). Mac was definitely Craig's design, though. Not sure about Terrence.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: achab1984 on November 04, 2019, 10:21:00 AM
Well Hasbro will not be getting any of my money still! LOL
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: LunaCat on November 04, 2019, 10:23:51 AM
Those are disturbing. I can't help but think cat when I see them. I don't see any sign of pony look to them.
I will definitely not be buying one.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 04, 2019, 10:45:38 AM
I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Harmonie on November 04, 2019, 11:00:38 AM
I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.

If that's the case, then this does not bode well for G5. To put it lightly.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 04, 2019, 11:04:58 AM
If that's the case, then this does not bode well for G5. To put it lightly.
Yeahh my theory kinda shoots myself in the foot. I'm hoping they're just trying to warm us up to the feathered hooves more than the faces, and I hope that the want to be more horse-like sticks through development.
On that note, there was another recent leak of more early show stuff, but no G5 related stuff as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Glitter Yolk on November 04, 2019, 11:40:57 AM
These do not look like ponies anymore. Even ponies have horse features. These do not.

The ears are cat ears. There is practically no snout to speak of. All facial features are forward-facing. Their heads and eyes are giant.  :cry:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Carrehz on November 04, 2019, 01:32:35 PM
I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.

? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: PinkieLopBun on November 04, 2019, 01:39:26 PM
I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.

? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...
I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Luxrayx on November 04, 2019, 01:52:08 PM
Bold of them to make Rarity the ugliest one. The other two look like cats, but Rarity looks like something... different. Something not found on Planet Earth :blink:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 04, 2019, 01:58:26 PM
Did she do some designs for Fosters Home For Imaginary Friends as well?  Again, shared with Craig, but looking back Mac and Terrance could be viewed as bobblehead...

I'm 99% sure she did, yeah (I have a feeling Goo and the imaginary puppies were Lauren's; I could be misremembering, though - my FHFIF fandom days were a looooong time ago!). Mac was definitely Craig's design, though. Not sure about Terrence.
Oh yeah, I forgot about Goo - she would definitely qualify as a "bobblehead" character in my opinion.

Thanks.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: caseysealia on November 04, 2019, 02:33:18 PM
I agree about the Faust issue. Her original pitch was to go more "disney like" and her first designs looked much better than the execution. FIM actually looked nicer when it initially came out, especially for its time, (lets not forget g2 had odd designs as well. but they were MUCH cuter) and even the movie was cute style wise as well. But its not....Good. I much prefer g3 to this. I will not be buying these. If I see them at a thrift store, possibly, but definitely not buying them off the shelves. As far as I'm concerned, the future of MLP is not a good one. As a G1 through G3 collector, it doesn't matter to me if MLP were to cease production. We have Basic Fun and HQG1C so that's good enough for me at this point.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Magicharp on November 04, 2019, 03:20:08 PM
G1s for me. Nothing else will do.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Al-1701 on November 04, 2019, 04:03:38 PM
Do you think Trasnformers fans would suffer this?  Sure, there are chibi versions of them, but they compliment the main lines, not take them over.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: caseysealia on November 04, 2019, 05:02:38 PM
Do you think Trasnformers fans would suffer this?  Sure, there are chibi versions of them, but they compliment the main lines, not take them over.
I don't like Transformers but I do agree. I don't really see other toy lines that have been around getting rebooted to this extreme...
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 04, 2019, 05:23:14 PM
Do you think Trasnformers fans would suffer this?  Sure, there are chibi versions of them, but they compliment the main lines, not take them over.

I don't know.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: gabumon on November 04, 2019, 06:37:08 PM
Transformers at least under John Warden is very careful with the brand,  they see the adult toy collectors and consistently produce toys directed to that audience at the same time they are making TF toys for kids.

It’s completely different with MLP.  Hasbro cares so little about adult MLP collectors that can’t even be bothered to make retro ponies.  They’d rather Basic Fun do it.  (Let Alone actually spend resources to design new G1 true toys - like they do for TF.) It’s unbalanced and unfair.   MLP = Kids only.  is how the current regime is running it.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: NightGliderSA on November 05, 2019, 12:13:44 AM
They are looking less and less like ponies. These ones look like... cats? Or at least more like cats than ponies in their faces to me. Oh dear: I WAS hoping that the new toys would be more pony-ish rather than less. As they are supposedly ponies.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Zapper on November 05, 2019, 01:19:44 AM
Hasbro cares so little about adult MLP collectors that can’t even be bothered to make retro ponies.  They’d rather Basic Fun do it.  (Let Alone actually spend resources to design new G1 true toys - like they do for TF.) It’s unbalanced and unfair.   MLP = Kids only.  is how the current regime is running it.

Yep. This is the company that crashed and burned their Jem line even though there was a lot of nostalgic adults and girls interested in a proper reboot. What Hasbro did was to give the liscense to Integrity Toys to make limited and expensive as heck dolls for Integrity collectors.
It was such a pain for me to aquire my favorite characters that I gave up after I finally had two.

And then that godawful movie was made that had all fans angry at Hasbro. And instead of going "oh crap, maybe we should take Jem more seriously and launch a widely available reboot line" they just made MLP Rainbow Rocks and forgot about Jem alltogether. Cancelled the comic and everything.

TF is their golden child. It's like Barbie to Mattel. TF collectors and fans have been getting multiple lines, shows and comics since forever. As an ex-TF collector, I was spoiled.
There was always a big array to choose from. Even during 2007-2009 if you hated the cartoony style of Animated you could turn to the Classics line or read an IDW G1 comic or watch Bayformers.
MLP always replaces one gen with the next and if you don't like it... so what. Buy expensive and uneasy to aquire third party stuff.

I wish Basic Fun ponies were more widely available. They are not even in stores here. It's the Integrity dolls all over again where you have to find a specific online retailer who'll ship to you. That's not how you make use of nostalgia. It's like they want to keep new customers away from their products :pout:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Al-1701 on November 05, 2019, 03:59:33 AM
I think greed and bad advice is what pushed their strategy with Jem.  They figured Jem fans would be so desperate for new material they would pay through the nose for it.  They also figured they would be so desperate that they would just accept making Jem more "marketable" to the general public by making Jerica's rise similar to Justin Bieber's.

With MLP they figure their old fans are all house wives with no control over the pocketbook, so they shouldn't waste their time and money catering to them.

We're dealing with a company that is stuck in the past in terms of its mindset and worldview.  They literally have to be shamed to embrace progressive ideas.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: gabumon on November 05, 2019, 05:12:15 AM
Yep.  this is 1000% all true.

Hasbro is Dr Jeckle and Mr Hyde.  MLP gets the monster who thrashes about randomly and TF gets the savvy gentleman. 😥


i feel a teeny bit guilty for supporting the TF side.  😰
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Lilja on November 05, 2019, 05:43:45 AM
I mean, to some degree Hasbro NEEDS to put more resources into Transformers in order for it to work as a concept, right? Every character transforms into a different vehicle (with some recolors/retools of course), and it takes a lot of engineering to make those transformations work and make them appealing and easy to handle for children.

With MLP they just need a basic body mold and they can recolor it forever into different characters. And pretty much all MLP fans are ok with this, because it's just how the brand works. Whenever anyone has a problem it's mainly that they don't like the aesthetic.

Basically I think MLP and TF are a bit too different to be compared. TF has also always put a lot more focus on story and characters, which they just started to do with MLP recently (and a lot of adult fans seem to think this is unnecessary). We can imagine a world where we have several MLP toylines in various styles running concurrently, with comics, cartoons, video games and big budget Hollywood movies, but I'm not sure anyone would benefit from that really. Neither Hasbro, kids or adult fans.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: gabumon on November 05, 2019, 07:15:54 AM
The fact that MLP are more simple to produce and design makes Hasbro look even worse
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 05, 2019, 07:16:03 AM
Yep.  this is 1000% all true.

Hasbro is Dr Jeckle and Mr Hyde.  MLP gets the monster who thrashes about randomly and TF gets the savvy gentleman. 😥


i feel a teeny bit guilty for supporting the TF side.  😰

Ah don't feel bad about that. Its a good metaphor for Hasbro. Ahahaha! Hey, at least we have 3rd parties who are willing to do things right by fans.

The Integrity Jem dolls look incredible and, I say that as someone who is not a doll person. They were a bit rich for my blood though.

I occasionally come across MLP merch, but I don't bother because I don't care for ankle socks and we've got too many cups in this house.

Running Press Glory was super cute, though the fakie moulded Firefly was a dirty trick and the mini art books that came with are lovely pieces of memorabilia.

 The Loyal Subjects stuff was cuter then expected.

 The hallmark ornaments are great. Makes me wish mine was still around.

Basic Fun has knocked its repro line clear outta the park.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Lilja on November 05, 2019, 07:41:22 AM
The fact that MLP are more simple to produce and design makes Hasbro look even worse

I think Hasbro is putting as many resources as they need into MLP to keep it profitable. But from the perspective of adult fans who prefer G1/G3, Hasbro is putting those resources into the wrong places. Those fans would prefer to see differently shaped ponies with more color variations rather than fewer but more defined characters, animated shows/movies and all the various gimmicks.

Right now it seems like Hasbro is trying out many different things to see what will sell to the general public. What with these new designs, the retro Mane 6 etc (and I'm sure they're keeping an eye on how the Basic Fun ponies are doing as well). Possibly the success or failure of these products will determine what G5 eventually ends up looking like.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: TJgamer on November 05, 2019, 07:52:56 AM
But are they worse than the Funko Pops?
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I'm just relieved (for now) that this likely isn't the official design for G5 or whatever.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Zapper on November 05, 2019, 08:56:30 AM
The fact that MLP are more simple to produce and design makes Hasbro look even worse

MTE
Also, TF never had more story than MLP. That's something they added later on in the 80s comics to make the basic premise of "robot faction A is fighting robot faction B over resources" more intresting. They realized they needed to offer more so boys won't outgrow the franchise.

I think it's perfectly fine to compare Hasbro lines to eachother because it's all made by the same company. If that company can pour resources into one line it begs the question why another line doesn't get that treatment. Especially when that line is - according to Hasbro's in-house reports - a valuable cashcow pony.
It just reminds me so much of Mattel, who downgraded their own Monster High because at a point it cannibalized the Barbie sales. They realized that MH was doing better than the Golden Child so instead of taking advantage of that and building MH up, they decided to cancel the planned movie, decided to reboot the line for pre- and elementary school kids and toss the 14+ demographic to the wolves because "teen girls buy phones and make-up and no dolls".

Teen girls these days have embraced geekiness much more than the previous generation. They have more disposable income than ever before. Why not build MLP up as a line that engages older kids, too? I don't need it to be for me. Just think Hasbro is sleeping on its potential in favor of their other franchises.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Lilja on November 05, 2019, 09:33:58 AM
Also, TF never had more story than MLP.

It was my impression that the backstory was integral to the TF brand in its inception, since robots transforming to vehicles on its own wouldn't make much sense to western consumers at the time. Meanwhile MLP could exist on its own as a pretty colorful horse you could style and take care of, without any need for a backstory. G1 MLP books and cartoons seemed more like bonus advertising. Most iterations of TF have had its story told in cartoons, comics or movies, while many iterations of MLP have been without it, and maybe not really needing it in order to sell toys. Although personally I love that MLP finally got a cartoon series that was entertaining and had mass appeal.

I really don't intend to defend Hasbro, since I certainly think they could do a better job. And there is some sexism in how boys' brands get a lot more care and attention than girls' brands (but that has also been the case since the '80s). But MLP and TF are two very different things aimed at different demographics. Meaning people don't generally want the same thing out of TF that they would want out of MLP.

As it was mentioned earlier, I think Jem is a brand that is more tied to its story and characters than MLP ever was. And it's been treated terribly by Hasbro even though the original cartoon is loved by so many. Shouldn't be too hard to create something with it that could appeal to the older tween crowd (since MLP skews a bit younger), but Hasbro just barely even wanted to give it a try. :(
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 05, 2019, 10:00:58 AM
While we're dunking on Hasbro can I just chime in with how upset I am that Hasbro Pulse doesn't sell ponies aside from the one SDCC exclusive? It makes no sense to me and just makes it very obvious that Hasbro only cares about their boy brands at the moment.
Looking at the higher-ups I'm not surprise.  (https://investor.hasbro.com/corporate-governance/management)
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Galactica on November 05, 2019, 11:03:44 AM
I thought these were from Taobao when I first saw them-  but the box art DOES look legit.

They are odd. They definitely appear to have cat heads? I like the hooves and leg shapes?  I don't love the huge head.  But my son likes cats so.... I guess he'd like these better than ponies, haha

I thought they looked familiar too... I can't remember what all is still in the Target toy isles but I looked up the "poopsie" ponies (which are etched into my mind) and sure enough they are very similar, don't you think?
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I found this in a google search too-  also similar design.

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I don't know if Littlest Pet Shop is still around anymore- but they also seem to have more than a passing resemblance to these...

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They aren't as ugly as G 3.5 but they aren't anything i would ever want to collect. I hope they go with a different design, but I have e feeling it will look something like the above if all of the "pony" toys currently look more like cats with horns than equines.


So I am reading that the ponies are Lauren Faust's design ? If that is true it is kinda funny because I'm positive the bronies will notice that these look a lot more like G3.5s than their beloved FIM ponies, and don't they still kinda worhip Faust?  So their goddess is giving them G 3.5.2s  haha
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on November 05, 2019, 11:54:59 AM
I like the bodies but not the heads. I agree the heads make them look feline. They have gone from Bambi to Puss in Boots.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: caseysealia on November 05, 2019, 11:56:55 AM
While we're dunking on Hasbro can I just chime in with how upset I am that Hasbro Pulse doesn't sell ponies aside from the one SDCC exclusive? It makes no sense to me and just makes it very obvious that Hasbro only cares about their boy brands at the moment.
Looking at the higher-ups I'm not surprise.  (https://investor.hasbro.com/corporate-governance/management)
Of course they are because ponies ain't selling because Hasbro won't listen to their fans  -_-
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Zapper on November 05, 2019, 12:40:29 PM
Also, TF never had more story than MLP.

It was my impression that the backstory was integral to the TF brand in its inception, since robots transforming to vehicles on its own wouldn't make much sense to western consumers at the time. Meanwhile MLP could exist on its own as a pretty colorful horse you could style and take care of, without any need for a backstory. G1 MLP books and cartoons seemed more like bonus advertising. Most iterations of TF have had its story told in cartoons, comics or movies, while many iterations of MLP have been without it, and maybe not really needing it in order to sell toys.

Ah, I guess I misunderstood at first. Agree that TF had a different approach to worldbuilding (and brand building).

My point is, now that MLP has gone into a more story/lore driven direction, it appears to be a regressive step to fit them into a trendhopper mold instead of exploring new channels.

Buuuut that is all based on these designs only. I don't know what the future holds. It just all appears kind of sarcastic to me. Like "crap, what shall we do to bridge the demand for pony between gens... how is it possible for us to sell the same characters we've been selling for 9 years but make them look new again? Ah, toy designer over there! Come up with something that kids have bought last-last season, no1curr".
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Wardah on November 05, 2019, 12:43:34 PM
The fact that MLP are more simple to produce and design makes Hasbro look even worse

MTE
Also, TF never had more story than MLP. That's something they added later on in the 80s comics to make the basic premise of "robot faction A is fighting robot faction B over resources" more intresting. They realized they needed to offer more so boys won't outgrow the franchise.

I think it's perfectly fine to compare Hasbro lines to eachother because it's all made by the same company. If that company can pour resources into one line it begs the question why another line doesn't get that treatment. Especially when that line is - according to Hasbro's in-house reports - a valuable cashcow pony.
It just reminds me so much of Mattel, who downgraded their own Monster High because at a point it cannibalized the Barbie sales. They realized that MH was doing better than the Golden Child so instead of taking advantage of that and building MH up, they decided to cancel the planned movie, decided to reboot the line for pre- and elementary school kids and toss the 14+ demographic to the wolves because "teen girls buy phones and make-up and no dolls".

Teen girls these days have embraced geekiness much more than the previous generation. They have more disposable income than ever before. Why not build MLP up as a line that engages older kids, too? I don't need it to be for me. Just think Hasbro is sleeping on its potential in favor of their other franchises.

MH had a dip in sales even before they decided to reboot it.

The problem is the biggest stereotype about women is they are more likely to spend money on their families than themselves until the kids leave the nest. That's why women skewing collectibles tend to lean towards things older ladies want like ceramic plates and ceramic cherubs.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Zapper on November 05, 2019, 12:48:19 PM
So I am reading that the ponies are Lauren Faust's design ? If that is true it is kinda funny because I'm positive the bronies will notice that these look a lot more like G3.5s than their beloved FIM ponies, and don't they still kinda worhip Faust?  So their goddess is giving them G 3.5.2s  haha

No, Lauren Faust hasn't worked for Hasbro in a long while. These designs don't look like her stuff, she also isn't much involved in toy design, afaik. She did soft dolls a while ago but those flopped/weren't picked up.

The Lauren Faust discussion ensued because LAW said she blames her for these caticorns :lol:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Carrehz on November 05, 2019, 01:04:20 PM
I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.

? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...
I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.

I'm probably misremembering/getting things mixed up. I recall seeing some G3.5-styled concept art/storyboards/somesuch on a Blogspot somewhere, years ago... anyone know what I'm talking about? I did some searching but I can't for the life of me find them :s

The impression I was under is that they wanted to redesign MLP and then hit upon Faust when she came to Hasbro to pitch a Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls show; I can buy G3.5 being a filler line but I'm not sure if I believe it being a transition into G4 like some people were describing. I'll concede that y'all probably know way more about the ins and outs of how FiM came to be than I do, though ;)
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 05, 2019, 01:28:28 PM
So I am reading that the ponies are Lauren Faust's design ? If that is true it is kinda funny because I'm positive the bronies will notice that these look a lot more like G3.5s than their beloved FIM ponies, and don't they still kinda worhip Faust?  So their goddess is giving them G 3.5.2s  haha

No, Lauren Faust hasn't worked for Hasbro in a long while. These designs don't look like her stuff, she also isn't much involved in toy design, afaik. She did soft dolls a while ago but those flopped/weren't picked up.

The Lauren Faust discussion ensued because LAW said she blames her for these caticorns :lol:

Caticorns no. Deformed ambiguous quadrupeds with giant eyes and swollen heads? Absolutely.


I predict gen 5 will be horrifying monstrosities that are floating, swollen, talking heads with kitty-faced mouths, no bodies and drawn on manes. Oh and they poop.  :lol:

The intro screen will show our heroines lying limp and lifeless in the grass as their heads  inflate like balloons until they pop off and ascend into the heavens.

(Hasbro if your reading  this, DO NOT MAKE THESE!)
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Lilja on November 05, 2019, 01:48:30 PM
I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.

I'm probably misremembering/getting things mixed up. I recall seeing some G3.5-styled concept art/storyboards/somesuch on a Blogspot somewhere, years ago... anyone know what I'm talking about? I did some searching but I can't for the life of me find them :s

The impression I was under is that they wanted to redesign MLP and then hit upon Faust when she came to Hasbro to pitch a Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls show; I can buy G3.5 being a filler line but I'm not sure if I believe it being a transition into G4 like some people were describing. I'll concede that y'all probably know way more about the ins and outs of how FiM came to be than I do, though ;)

Hasbro also came out with the Ponyville series in 2007 which had similar proportions to G3.5. In 2008 we had Newborn Cuties, and one year later all new pony toys had this cutesy cartoony look. It seems like the line was moving in this direction well before FIM. But of course we can't know what Hasbro's plans were back then, they're probably always way ahead of us.

I don't remember seeing any concept art like that, but I'd sure like to see it if it exists. :)
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: shabbychicdee on November 05, 2019, 01:53:33 PM
So I am reading that the ponies are Lauren Faust's design ? If that is true it is kinda funny because I'm positive the bronies will notice that these look a lot more like G3.5s than their beloved FIM ponies, and don't they still kinda worhip Faust?  So their goddess is giving them G 3.5.2s  haha

No, Lauren Faust hasn't worked for Hasbro in a long while. These designs don't look like her stuff, she also isn't much involved in toy design, afaik. She did soft dolls a while ago but those flopped/weren't picked up.

The Lauren Faust discussion ensued because LAW said she blames her for these caticorns :lol:

Caticorns no. Deformed ambiguous quadrupeds with giant eyes and swollen heads? Absolutely.


I predict gen 5 will be horrifying monstrosities that are floating, swollen, talking heads with kitty-faced mouths, no bodies and drawn on manes. Oh and they poop.  :lol:

The intro screen will show our heroines lying limp and lifeless in the grass as their heads  inflate like balloons until they pop off and ascend into the heavens.

(Hasbro if your reading  this, DO NOT MAKE THESE!)

hehehehehe  :snicker: :iconclap: yep i can see the tasteless poop thing happen sadly,
G5 will be a poopsies fakie  :P
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Loona on November 05, 2019, 02:01:19 PM
Oh ok so these are... mischievous (or rather evil. Rarity is definitely more on the evil side) little dragonlings? :blink: I was searching my mind for a loooong time until I finally realised what's so familiar in their heads: they look like Plagg's head from Miraculous Ladybug. I like that show, but not this resemblance. These are just... not MLP. I think that is all I can say about them, which might be the reason why they leave me rather neutral and uninterested.
*silently sneaks out to take a shower instead of thinking more about these toys*  :lookround:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Lilja on November 05, 2019, 02:08:16 PM
hehehehehe  :snicker: :iconclap: yep i can see the tasteless poop thing happen sadly,
G5 will be a poopsies fakie  :P

Ironically G1 is the only generation that made bodily functions a play feature. I don't think Hasbro's ever gone there again, even with the many pony baby dolls they've made over the years?  :lol:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 05, 2019, 02:29:27 PM
hehehehehe  :snicker: :iconclap: yep i can see the tasteless poop thing happen sadly,
G5 will be a poopsies fakie  :P

Ironically G1 is the only generation that made bodily functions a play feature. I don't think Hasbro's ever gone there again, even with the many pony baby dolls they've made over the years?  :lol:

True.   ^.^
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Wind~Whistler on November 05, 2019, 03:43:36 PM
I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.

? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...
I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.

I'm probably misremembering/getting things mixed up. I recall seeing some G3.5-styled concept art/storyboards/somesuch on a Blogspot somewhere, years ago... anyone know what I'm talking about? I did some searching but I can't for the life of me find them :s

The impression I was under is that they wanted to redesign MLP and then hit upon Faust when she came to Hasbro to pitch a Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls show; I can buy G3.5 being a filler line but I'm not sure if I believe it being a transition into G4 like some people were describing. I'll concede that y'all probably know way more about the ins and outs of how FiM came to be than I do, though ;)
This? http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-little-pony-character-drawings.html?m=1 (http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-little-pony-character-drawings.html?m=1)
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Galactica on November 05, 2019, 04:11:46 PM
I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.


? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...
I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.

I'm probably misremembering/getting things mixed up. I recall seeing some G3.5-styled concept art/storyboards/somesuch on a Blogspot somewhere, years ago... anyone know what I'm talking about? I did some searching but I can't for the life of me find them :s

The impression I was under is that they wanted to redesign MLP and then hit upon Faust when she came to Hasbro to pitch a Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls show; I can buy G3.5 being a filler line but I'm not sure if I believe it being a transition into G4 like some people were describing. I'll concede that y'all probably know way more about the ins and outs of how FiM came to be than I do, though ;)
This? http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-little-pony-character-drawings.html?m=1 (http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-little-pony-character-drawings.html?m=1)
Those drawings are actually quite cute. Too bad something was lost in translation.  Maybe the drawings for G5 also started out really cute - and it is only when translated to plastic they look like poopsie fakie caticorns.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: RainbowAlicorn999 on November 05, 2019, 04:49:11 PM
Cat like in an ugly way. I hope these aren't G5. :(
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Carrehz on November 06, 2019, 06:56:32 AM
I have a theory that G3.5 was a transition meant to get everyone used to less snout on the ponies because at that point, they would have already had FiM in production and knew the direction the line was going.
That's my horse theory.

? I thought G3.5 was in full swing before FiM started production. I could've sworn I saw some G3.5-style concepts for what eventually became FiM (from before Faust became involved)...
I don’t know anything about those concepts you mentioned, but FiM was in development in 2008. I believe G3.5 started in 2009.

I'm probably misremembering/getting things mixed up. I recall seeing some G3.5-styled concept art/storyboards/somesuch on a Blogspot somewhere, years ago... anyone know what I'm talking about? I did some searching but I can't for the life of me find them :s

The impression I was under is that they wanted to redesign MLP and then hit upon Faust when she came to Hasbro to pitch a Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls show; I can buy G3.5 being a filler line but I'm not sure if I believe it being a transition into G4 like some people were describing. I'll concede that y'all probably know way more about the ins and outs of how FiM came to be than I do, though ;)
This? http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-little-pony-character-drawings.html?m=1 (http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-little-pony-character-drawings.html?m=1)

Yes, that's it! These are the boards I was thinking of:
http://kathycarrtoons.blogspot.com/2010/06/blog-post_14.html

Looks like I misremembered them having any connection to G4, but it's nice to see them again anyway ^^
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Zapper on November 06, 2019, 07:20:49 AM
There is no way what we call G3.5 was in development after or alongside G4. Think about it... why would they make an extra reboot just to "ease" kids into the G4 style. It was simply a decision to chibify the G3s because that look was already in back then.
Hasbro experienced success with their LPS reboot so why not make ponies look that way. G3 had been on shelves for a while, the Core 7 thing was taking off... all of that was planned years before G4 was being planned.


G4 would have probably gotten replaced by G5 way sooner if it hadn't become some sort of viral sensation. And these redesigns must have been in development for longer as well.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 06, 2019, 08:47:34 AM
There is no way what we call G3.5 was in development after or alongside G4. Think about it... why would they make an extra reboot just to "ease" kids into the G4 style. It was simply a decision to chibify the G3s because that look was already in back then.
Hasbro experienced success with their LPS reboot so why not make ponies look that way. G3 had been on shelves for a while, the Core 7 thing was taking off... all of that was planned years before G4 was being planned.


G4 would have probably gotten replaced by G5 way sooner if it hadn't become some sort of viral sensation. And these redesigns must have been in development for longer as well.

Or it might not have. Big sparkly eyed balloon head things are unfortunately popular and refuse to go away. And I do concede to your earlier point btw, I'm just tired and cranky and Faust irks me for chucking girls toons under the bus to curry favor with a trolly fanbase, for her impo awful style, and because I'm petty and am blaming her for much of the ills of modern mlp.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: PrincessKittyDragon on November 06, 2019, 09:21:52 AM
They look so,,, cat-like which is a big oof
They also look like they have the same hard plastic that G4.5 had which I'm not a fan off
I hope G5 looks more pony like :<
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: otocolobus_manul on November 06, 2019, 04:30:13 PM
I’ve come to realize I don’t really care what animal MLPs look like so long as they look cute. G4s were very deer-like, but they were cute deer, so I like them. These things? They’re like cats, but they’re so incredibly grotesque and deformed that they look more like gremlins. If these were marketed as toy cats, they’d still be atrociously ugly.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 06, 2019, 04:37:54 PM
I’ve come to realize I don’t really care what animal MLPs look like so long as they look cute. G4s were very deer-like, but they were cute deer, so I like them. These things? They’re like cats, but they’re so incredibly grotesque and deformed that they look more like gremlins. If these were marketed as toy cats, they’d still be atrociously ugly.
That's a good way of looking at it.   :lovey:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 06, 2019, 05:06:02 PM
I’ve come to realize I don’t really care what animal MLPs look like so long as they look cute. G4s were very deer-like, but they were cute deer, so I like them. These things? They’re like cats, but they’re so incredibly grotesque and deformed that they look more like gremlins. If these were marketed as toy cats, they’d still be atrociously ugly.
That's a good way of looking at it.   :lovey:


No not really. You called a brand my little pony for 30+ years, it had better be a bloody horse.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: otocolobus_manul on November 07, 2019, 05:46:38 AM
I’ve come to realize I don’t really care what animal MLPs look like so long as they look cute. G4s were very deer-like, but they were cute deer, so I like them. These things? They’re like cats, but they’re so incredibly grotesque and deformed that they look more like gremlins. If these were marketed as toy cats, they’d still be atrociously ugly.
That's a good way of looking at it.   :lovey:


No not really. You called a brand my little pony for 30+ years, it had better be a bloody horse.

I’m not saying everyone should feel this way. I’m just saying I personally don’t care. If I want realistic horse, I go to Breyer  :silly:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: SaraMari on November 07, 2019, 07:48:00 AM
I want something between super deformed cat/goat chimera and anatomically correct horse lol but more towards the horse end of things 😂😂
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 07, 2019, 10:26:31 AM
I want something between super deformed cat/goat chimera and anatomically correct horse lol but more towards the horse end of things 😂😂

My Little Chimera is the girl toyline we never knew we needed till now.  :lol:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: SpaceButtPonies on November 07, 2019, 10:49:58 AM
Who ever approved these designs needs to be put in the corner of shame.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Zapper on November 08, 2019, 01:50:51 AM
If I want realistic horse, I go to Breyer  :silly:

Breyer makes these color changing bath toys that remind me so much of MLP but they still keep the horsey proportions and look super cute. They even have cutie marks.

This one is also called Luna (https://frumcare.com/store/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/41Q5zfs4A-L.jpg) :biggrin:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Al-1701 on November 08, 2019, 02:35:07 AM
There is no way what we call G3.5 was in development after or alongside G4. Think about it... why would they make an extra reboot just to "ease" kids into the G4 style. It was simply a decision to chibify the G3s because that look was already in back then.
Hasbro experienced success with their LPS reboot so why not make ponies look that way. G3 had been on shelves for a while, the Core 7 thing was taking off... all of that was planned years before G4 was being planned.


G4 would have probably gotten replaced by G5 way sooner if it hadn't become some sort of viral sensation. And these redesigns must have been in development for longer as well.

Or it might not have. Big sparkly eyed balloon head things are unfortunately popular and refuse to go away. And I do concede to your earlier point btw, I'm just tired and cranky and Faust irks me for chucking girls toons under the bus to curry favor with a trolly fanbase, for her impo awful style, and because I'm petty and am blaming her for much of the ills of modern mlp.
Actually, it's Meghan McCarthy and Josh Haber you can blame for the brony pandering in FiM.  Fasut was long gone by the time the show started to really twist it to appeal more to them specifically.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 08, 2019, 05:35:41 AM
I knew it! I blame Haber for a lot of stuff.
The movie has a September 24 2021 release date, so take that as you will for the relationship to the toys.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: maycrestmom on November 08, 2019, 06:03:13 AM
I have no words other than I feel really old right now to think I may be in the minority to expect My Little Pony to have toys that yeah - resemble horses

I'm voting to make that breyer line of toys what my nieces get as new .  I was so bummed they didn't do more a G3 style run of so many more different types of G4 brushables and not all the blind bag / mini-fig stuff

yeah chalk me up to cranky side today... just

those

are

not

ponies


I want something between super deformed cat/goat chimera and anatomically correct horse lol but more towards the horse end of things 😂😂

My Little Chimera is the girl toyline we never knew we needed till now.  :lol:

 :lmao:  ^^^this^^^
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Zapper on November 08, 2019, 06:31:33 AM
The movie has a September 24 2021 release date, so take that as you will for the relationship to the toys.

Interesting! That's still a long time for me. I wonder when we'll see the first official movie designs.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 08, 2019, 07:28:28 AM
There is no way what we call G3.5 was in development after or alongside G4. Think about it... why would they make an extra reboot just to "ease" kids into the G4 style. It was simply a decision to chibify the G3s because that look was already in back then.
Hasbro experienced success with their LPS reboot so why not make ponies look that way. G3 had been on shelves for a while, the Core 7 thing was taking off... all of that was planned years before G4 was being planned.


G4 would have probably gotten replaced by G5 way sooner if it hadn't become some sort of viral sensation. And these redesigns must have been in development for longer as well.

Or it might not have. Big sparkly eyed balloon head things are unfortunately popular and refuse to go away. And I do concede to your earlier point btw, I'm just tired and cranky and Faust irks me for chucking girls toons under the bus to curry favor with a trolly fanbase, for her impo awful style, and because I'm petty and am blaming her for much of the ills of modern mlp.
Actually, it's Meghan McCarthy and Josh Haber you can blame for the brony pandering in FiM.  Fasut was long gone by the time the show started to really twist it to appeal more to them specifically.

I'm talking about how she said "That girl's cartoons and past iterations of MLP were only about tea parties, crying and laughing at nothing."

Anyone who has ever watched shows like MLP and Friends, She-Ra, Care Bears, Sailor Moon, Rainbowbrite or Jem knows this is a steaming load.

Even the suburbanite Tales had feisty characters.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: SpacePinto on November 08, 2019, 08:44:44 AM
I'm talking about how she said "That girl's cartoons and past iterations of MLP were only about tea parties, crying and laughing at nothing."

Anyone who has ever watched shows like MLP and Friends, She-Ra, Care Bears, Sailor Moon, Rainbowbrite or Jem knows this is a steaming load.

That's probably what irks me the most about this person. I don't even blame her that much for the direction she put MLP into since it was still mostly Hasbro's decision, and she probably had no idea what kind of monster she was about to unleash at the time. But I can't stand how she likes to think of herself as some sort of savior of girls' animation, it's so disrespectul to all those writers who came before her.

I don't remember where exactly I saw it, but someone posted something like this some time in early 2011:

80s ponies: *fought demons, monsters and all kinds of ancient evils*
Lauren Faust: "I will show you that cartoons for girls don't have to be lame! Here are three ponies bickering at a slumber party!"
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Ragamuffin on November 08, 2019, 08:49:09 AM
80s ponies: *fought demons, monsters and all kinds of ancient evils*
Lauren Faust: "I will show you that cartoons for girls don't have to be lame! Here are three ponies bickering at a slumber party!"

That's exactly how it is. :lmao: The first season of FiM was extremely slice-of-life, while the ponies in MLP 'n Friends all had to deal with things that wanted to enslave or kill them every episode...
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Zapper on November 08, 2019, 10:45:12 AM
80s ponies: *fought demons, monsters and all kinds of ancient evils*
Lauren Faust: "I will show you that cartoons for girls don't have to be lame! Here are three ponies bickering at a slumber party!"

That's exactly how it is. :lmao: The first season of FiM was extremely slice-of-life, while the ponies in MLP 'n Friends all had to deal with things that wanted to enslave or kill them every episode...

MLP 'n Friends had so much slavery. I am not saying an adventure cartoon needs these stakes to be enjoyable but damn, the ponies were in near constant fear of getting enslaved, taken advantage of, kidnapped... and when that wasn't happening they tried to help other species dealing with these issues. Wasn't there also an episode where some penguin lord was trying to create a second ice age? And the dude froze his own son! Elsa, who?! XD
G1 ponies went through a lot, haha! That's why I always whine about wanting more fantasy adventures in MLP again. We've had an abudance of SoL for at least 25 years. Could we maybe flip the script a little and make it at least 50/50 again?

In one episode: I worry about what my friends might think of me
Next episode: These trolls are trying to flood a village :P
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 08, 2019, 10:57:36 AM
It was weird and wishful thinking, but last night I had a dream about next gen mlp being all pony looking with great animation and balanced toys.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Wardah on November 08, 2019, 03:57:01 PM
There is no way what we call G3.5 was in development after or alongside G4. Think about it... why would they make an extra reboot just to "ease" kids into the G4 style. It was simply a decision to chibify the G3s because that look was already in back then.
Hasbro experienced success with their LPS reboot so why not make ponies look that way. G3 had been on shelves for a while, the Core 7 thing was taking off... all of that was planned years before G4 was being planned.


G4 would have probably gotten replaced by G5 way sooner if it hadn't become some sort of viral sensation. And these redesigns must have been in development for longer as well.

Or it might not have. Big sparkly eyed balloon head things are unfortunately popular and refuse to go away. And I do concede to your earlier point btw, I'm just tired and cranky and Faust irks me for chucking girls toons under the bus to curry favor with a trolly fanbase, for her impo awful style, and because I'm petty and am blaming her for much of the ills of modern mlp.
Actually, it's Meghan McCarthy and Josh Haber you can blame for the brony pandering in FiM.  Fasut was long gone by the time the show started to really twist it to appeal more to them specifically.

I'm talking about how she said "That girl's cartoons and past iterations of MLP were only about tea parties, crying and laughing at nothing."

Anyone who has ever watched shows like MLP and Friends, She-Ra, Care Bears, Sailor Moon, Rainbowbrite or Jem knows this is a steaming load.

Even the suburbanite Tales had feisty characters.

I think she was comparing it to the G3 cartoon since that was what was currently airing at the time Lauren made her pitch.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: PinkieLopBun on November 09, 2019, 04:16:52 AM
More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: U2QueenBee on November 09, 2019, 04:26:51 AM
Well, hrm...the bodies are ok but I don't care for the heads at all. The muzzles/noses look awfully small compared to the heads and ears, and somehow not in a cute way. I don't care for the turned-up looking noses or the expressions. Fluttershy is the best of the three, but none of them really gives off the look of the show designs at all. Pinkie Pie's eyes are slightly terrifying from the front, and Rarity looks something between vapid and smug, to me, and nothing like herself. It's a no from me.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Zapper on November 09, 2019, 04:47:06 AM
More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html

I have to say I do like the trotting pose and the eye colors (that bit of blue AJ has in her eye is a nice touch, imo). But I can't deal with the lack of jaw. Profile makes them look like they come straight out of a horror movie.

Potion Nova looks like Rarity. Eyes look like stickers (hopefully just a prototype thing).Those seamlines tell me they are going to be hard plastic, so that's a hard pass for me.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 09, 2019, 06:33:47 AM
There is no way what we call G3.5 was in development after or alongside G4. Think about it... why would they make an extra reboot just to "ease" kids into the G4 style. It was simply a decision to chibify the G3s because that look was already in back then.
Hasbro experienced success with their LPS reboot so why not make ponies look that way. G3 had been on shelves for a while, the Core 7 thing was taking off... all of that was planned years before G4 was being planned.


G4 would have probably gotten replaced by G5 way sooner if it hadn't become some sort of viral sensation. And these redesigns must have been in development for longer as well.

Or it might not have. Big sparkly eyed balloon head things are unfortunately popular and refuse to go away. And I do concede to your earlier point btw, I'm just tired and cranky and Faust irks me for chucking girls toons under the bus to curry favor with a trolly fanbase, for her impo awful style, and because I'm petty and am blaming her for much of the ills of modern mlp.
Actually, it's Meghan McCarthy and Josh Haber you can blame for the brony pandering in FiM.  Fasut was long gone by the time the show started to really twist it to appeal more to them specifically.

I'm talking about how she said "That girl's cartoons and past iterations of MLP were only about tea parties, crying and laughing at nothing."

Anyone who has ever watched shows like MLP and Friends, She-Ra, Care Bears, Sailor Moon, Rainbowbrite or Jem knows this is a steaming load.

Even the suburbanite Tales had feisty characters.

I think she was comparing it to the G3 cartoon since that was what was currently airing at the time Lauren made her pitch.
If she said that (I can't remember if I confirmed the true meaning of the one time I saw her say this) she'd be wrong here as well (unless she meant G3.5, but I could be wrong about that one - need to check) G3 definitely wasn't full of tea parties and giggling and crying over nothing.

I do respect Lauren as a person and writer, but she's allowed to be wrong.  If she genuinely thinks that girl's shows (regardless of whether she's including past My Little Pony in this or not) are like this, it's likely because she didn't watch them.  She probably heard they were like that, or saw a few that were like that, and gave up.  Not professional to state this as fact, but yeah... people get/remember things wrong.

I feel I already posted something like this, so sorry if it's a repeat.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 09, 2019, 07:07:43 AM
There is no way what we call G3.5 was in development after or alongside G4. Think about it... why would they make an extra reboot just to "ease" kids into the G4 style. It was simply a decision to chibify the G3s because that look was already in back then.
Hasbro experienced success with their LPS reboot so why not make ponies look that way. G3 had been on shelves for a while, the Core 7 thing was taking off... all of that was planned years before G4 was being planned.


G4 would have probably gotten replaced by G5 way sooner if it hadn't become some sort of viral sensation. And these redesigns must have been in development for longer as well.

Or it might not have. Big sparkly eyed balloon head things are unfortunately popular and refuse to go away. And I do concede to your earlier point btw, I'm just tired and cranky and Faust irks me for chucking girls toons under the bus to curry favor with a trolly fanbase, for her impo awful style, and because I'm petty and am blaming her for much of the ills of modern mlp.
Actually, it's Meghan McCarthy and Josh Haber you can blame for the brony pandering in FiM.  Fasut was long gone by the time the show started to really twist it to appeal more to them specifically.

I'm talking about how she said "That girl's cartoons and past iterations of MLP were only about tea parties, crying and laughing at nothing."

Anyone who has ever watched shows like MLP and Friends, She-Ra, Care Bears, Sailor Moon, Rainbowbrite or Jem knows this is a steaming load.

Even the suburbanite Tales had feisty characters.

I think she was comparing it to the G3 cartoon since that was what was currently airing at the time Lauren made her pitch.
If she said that (I can't remember if I confirmed the true meaning of the one time I saw her say this) she'd be wrong here as well (unless she meant G3.5, but I could be wrong about that one - need to check) G3 definitely wasn't full of tea parties and giggling and crying over nothing.

I do respect Lauren as a person and writer, but she's allowed to be wrong.  If she genuinely thinks that girl's shows (regardless of whether she's including past My Little Pony in this or not) are like this, it's likely because she didn't watch them.  She probably heard they were like that, or saw a few that were like that, and gave up.  Not professional to state this as fact, but yeah... people get/remember things wrong.

I feel I already posted something like this, so sorry if it's a repeat.

It was an outright lie and I hate to be that person but Girls properties get enough flak, her lying butt didn't need to add to it. If she hadn't watched them then she shoulda kept her big fat flap shut.

Post Merge: November 09, 2019, 07:09:09 AM

More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html

I have to say I do like the trotting pose and the eye colors (that bit of blue AJ has in her eye is a nice touch, imo). But I can't deal with the lack of jaw. Profile makes them look like they come straight out of a horror movie.

Potion Nova looks like Rarity. Eyes look like stickers (hopefully just a prototype thing).Those seamlines tell me they are going to be hard plastic, so that's a hard pass for me.

Its a shame Potion Nova is on that dreadful mould. Her theme is great!
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on November 09, 2019, 07:12:14 AM
More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html

I have to say I do like the trotting pose and the eye colors (that bit of blue AJ has in her eye is a nice touch, imo). But I can't deal with the lack of jaw. Profile makes them look like they come straight out of a horror movie.

Potion Nova looks like Rarity. Eyes look like stickers (hopefully just a prototype thing).Those seamlines tell me they are going to be hard plastic, so that's a hard pass for me.
First off, who is Nova????
Second, still don't like the heads and the muzzles look weird without the proper chin
Third, I'm not a fan of the new pose... it's that front bent leg that bothers me XD

Other than that, if Nova wasn't in this line I think I'd like her better
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 09, 2019, 07:26:06 AM
More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html

I have to say I do like the trotting pose and the eye colors (that bit of blue AJ has in her eye is a nice touch, imo). But I can't deal with the lack of jaw. Profile makes them look like they come straight out of a horror movie.

Potion Nova looks like Rarity. Eyes look like stickers (hopefully just a prototype thing).Those seamlines tell me they are going to be hard plastic, so that's a hard pass for me.
First off, who is Nova????
Second, still don't like the heads and the muzzles look weird without the proper chin
Third, I'm not a fan of the new pose... it's that front bent leg that bothers me XD

Other than that, if Nova wasn't in this line I think I'd like her better

Idk, but her colors sure are pretty. I'd like a cross gen custom of her.

Post Merge: November 09, 2019, 07:29:08 AM

More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html

I have to say I do like the trotting pose and the eye colors (that bit of blue AJ has in her eye is a nice touch, imo). But I can't deal with the lack of jaw. Profile makes them look like they come straight out of a horror movie.

Potion Nova looks like Rarity. Eyes look like stickers (hopefully just a prototype thing).Those seamlines tell me they are going to be hard plastic, so that's a hard pass for me.

Not quite, her hair is lavender, pink and blue. Reminds me of a G3.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Lilja on November 09, 2019, 07:33:00 AM
It was an outright lie and I hate to be that person but Girls properties get enough flak, her lying butt didn't need to add to it. If she hadn't watched them then she shoulda kept her big fat flap shut.

I'm like 99.9% sure Lauren is not out to bash girls' cartoons as a whole. As I understand it her point was that there are generally less stakes in girls' cartoons, as well as less care, effort and funding put into them. This holds true (we just discussed the same thing in regards to toys), and a handful of well-made girls' cartoons existing does not disprove a general trend. Lauren's worked within the industry too, so she should know a bit about the discussions that lead to certain cartoons being greenlit or dismissed. Maybe she didn't choose her words too carefully, but I find it better to be charitable than to interpret her words in the worst way possible.

More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html

Very cool! I'm still not so sold on the faces, but their eyes are really nice. Bodies are ok, but not very interesting in any way except for the hooves. Hope there'll be more than two poses.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 09, 2019, 07:36:48 AM
It was an outright lie and I hate to be that person but Girls properties get enough flak, her lying butt didn't need to add to it. If she hadn't watched them then she shoulda kept her big fat flap shut.

I'm like 99.9% sure Lauren is not out to bash girls' cartoons as a whole. As I understand it her point was that there are generally less stakes in girls' cartoons, as well as less care, effort and funding put into them. This holds true (we just discussed the same thing in regards to toys), and a handful of well-made girls' cartoons existing does not disprove a general trend. Lauren's worked within the industry too, so she should know a bit about the discussions that lead to certain cartoons being greenlit or dismissed. Maybe she didn't chose her words too carefully, but I find it better to be charitable than to interpret her words in the worst way possible.

More info on the line, which is called Reveal the Magic:
https://www.mlpmerch.com/2019/11/my-little-pony-2020-line-is-called.html

Very cool! I'm still not so sold on the faces, but their eyes are really nice. Bodies are ok, but not very interesting in any way except for the hooves. Hope there'll be more than two poses.

So she makes cheap flash toons and has the gall to generalize girls toons  as nothing but poorly made tea parties? Still a lie and still needlessly bashing. If she's not going to be charitable to her fellow cartoon creators and their fans, then I have no prob being uncharitable. Especially when many girls cartoons and girls in cartoons had hand drawn animation for better and worse and had adventures alongside their male counterparts. Most girls cartoons were not vapid nonsense.

Even in boys and gender neutral cartoons the likes of Linka, Gi, Roll, Princess Lana, Arcee and Carly were pulling their weight evenly.


Back OT: I don't care much for Trixie.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: SaraMari on November 09, 2019, 08:36:50 AM
I feel what Lauren said is the equivalent of "I'm not other girls" throwing other women, girls, items associated with feminine things etc under the bus to make yourself look better is inherently misogynistic and immature. Probably why a lot of people have reacted negatively to it.

I just have to say I really don't like the visible seam lines on these, especially across the top of the front leg. It's bad enough they look so badly sculpted, they also look cheap
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 09, 2019, 08:50:57 AM
I do like the white with purple stripe on Rarity. It looks good. I wonder if they can be headswapped?
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: caseysealia on November 09, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
Twilight is actually cute!! If she had more hair she'd be way better. Guess I'll have to find her and give her a hair do. Who is Potion Nova? Is she random? Important? Ugh why is Trixie back??
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Zapper on November 09, 2019, 09:18:54 AM
I feel what Lauren said is the equivalent of "I'm not other girls" throwing other women, girls, items associated with feminine things etc under the bus to make yourself look better is inherently misogynistic and immature. Probably why a lot of people have reacted negatively to it.

Girls media often is stuck in a corset of likeability and cuteness.
No flawed characters allowed, no real conflict allowed. All look the same, all peddle fake beauty (make-up, insanely long hair, impossibly tiny bodies and impossibly big eyes). A lot of items targeted at grown women are literally useless.
Just like a lot of boys media is mimicking war and encouraging boys to fight each other. There is nothing wrong in pointing that out.

There is also nothing wrong in not being like the other girls. Especially when you are young and other girls are bullying you for not following beauty trends and gender norms.

The problem with this infamous Lauren Faust quote, imo, is how many FiM fans latched onto it to shame older fans - especially the male ones a.k.a. "autistic and gay" and women with kids a.k.a. "fat housewives" - and bash the older gens as "stupid because it was for girls". This turned into bashing girls in general.

I highly doubt that Faust intended to bash girls and compare herself to them as "cool".
Then there is her husband, who had an entire episode in Powerpuff Girls dedicated to anti-feminist messages and villainizing women who use the Venus symbol... I actually remember anti-Faust fans making her responsible for this episode and harassing her for it until she apologized in her husband's name.

So yeah, people on both sides like to project their politics onto Lauren. They blame her for sexist bronies and call her "cool girl" and act like the previous MLP wasn't written by men.

Faust said a lot of stuff I disagree with. I also don't hold up season 1 or 2 as creme de la creme of FiM. But claiming she is a misogynist is taking it too far.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 09, 2019, 09:24:02 AM
I'd love for Potion Nova to just...be! Brushable only characters are great for kids to project themselves and create new characters. Y'all ever watch any of the videos kids make with their pony toys? We needed some ponies to use as the bully of the school.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 09, 2019, 09:26:15 AM
I don't think it was a lie whatever was said, just poor wording or bad research.  I can't remember if this ever went public, but I remember either writing, or planning to write a defence for G4 and/or bronies which would have included something like "This one has good verses evil, which the old ones didn't have." this is most definitely not true, as G1 definitely had it as well (which I knew, but forgot) - this was not a lie, it was just me not knowing what I was saying, due to poor research.

The one time I saw her say this about girl's cartoons (which I agree get too much flak) the wording made it debatable to me, whether she was talking about My Little Pony as well, or whether that was the exception - it is likely it's the former, as she preferred the toys, but it's worded in a way that it could mean either (though I realise, I could just want it to mean that.)

She was also talking about when she was younger when she said that, so for all we know (unless she still sticks by this), she could have literally been talking about when she was younger.

I certainly wouldn't call her flash cartoons cheap - at least not this one (no animation is cheap unless it's really obvious that it is, in my opinion - all animation is beautiful when done right.)  My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic may not have the beauty of G3, but it is definitely a cartoon that had a lot of work involved, and actually showed me that flash doesn't have to be the easy option.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Lilja on November 09, 2019, 09:48:26 AM
Girls media often is stuck in a corset of likeability and cuteness.
No flawed characters allowed, no real conflict allowed. All look the same, all peddle fake beauty (make-up, insanely long hair, impossibly tiny bodies and impossibly big eyes). A lot of items targeted at grown women are literally useless.
Just like a lot of boys media is mimicking war and encouraging boys to fight each other. There is nothing wrong in pointing that out.

There is also nothing wrong in not being like the other girls. Especially when you are young and other girls are bullying you for not following beauty trends and gender norms.

The problem with this infamous Lauren Faust quote, imo, is how many FiM fans latched onto it to shame older fans - especially the male ones a.k.a. "autistic and gay" and women with kids a.k.a. "fat housewives" - and bash the older gens as "stupid because it was for girls". This turned into bashing girls in general.

I highly doubt that Faust intended to bash girls and compare herself to them as "cool".
Then there is her husband, who had an entire episode in Powerpuff Girls dedicated to anti-feminist messages and villainizing women who use the Venus symbol... I actually remember anti-Faust fans making her responsible for this episode and harassing her for it until she apologized in her husband's name.

So yeah, people on both sides like to project their politics onto Lauren. They blame her for sexist bronies and call her "cool girl" and act like the previous MLP wasn't written by men.

Faust said a lot of stuff I disagree with. I also don't hold up season 1 or 2 as creme de la creme of FiM. But claiming she is a misogynist is taking it too far.

Agree with everything said here! Nice summarization of thoughts I myself had difficulty putting into words.  :)
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: SaraMari on November 09, 2019, 10:11:49 AM
Zapper I believe you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I did not call her a misogynist. However saying something like "old girls cartoons only had tea parties and silly giggling, mine will be elevated/inclusive (?) because it will not" has misogynistic undertones to it.  Maybe that's not exactly what she said/meant it's just been repeated so many times. Of course she can't be responsible for how people will use her words, I wasn't addressing that.

I did not mean to offend you, I apologize
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 09, 2019, 10:18:44 AM
That too is a fallacy. Girls toons have conflicts and imperfect characters more often then not and so do girls in non-girl toons.

Look at characters like Shrieky, Jerrica/Jem, Harley Quinn and Truly.

They're certainly not perfect.

Shrieky fulfills the roles of spoiled brat and the abusive,  bumbling sidekick.

Jerrica/Jem was overworked, responsible and compassionate, but she played games, got POed at her boyfriend cheating on her with herself, flirted with Riot and had mental breakdowns.

Newer people think she and Joker are relationship goals, but Harley is actually a sufferer of an abusive codependent relationship.

Truly is a rude snob who doesn't like to listen to anyone. Her saving grace is that she's willing to apologize.


Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on November 09, 2019, 11:08:27 AM
On another note... Potion Nova's coloring reminds me of Star Catcher
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 09, 2019, 11:58:49 AM
On another note... Potion Nova's coloring reminds me of Star Catcher

A little bit yeah. I was thinking more of Precious Gem since she's got the lavender.

AJ looks like she's on happy pills.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: prancingstag on November 09, 2019, 12:01:22 PM
I kinda like these little guys. Pinkie and Fluttershy’s eye shapes are a little weird, but the posing appeals to me. I think Twilight is very cute. When I look at them I’m like that’s not Twilight, and that’s not a pony as I know it, but whatever it is seems to be cute. The pointy ears, upright posture and spindly legs almost remind me of a fox or deer, moreso than the rounded mousey curves of G4/4.5 ever did. Spoilers for Pokemon Sword/Shield:
Spoiler
I’m getting Nicket and Thievul vibes from these guys, with maybe a dash of Dragapult head shape!

It remains to be seen what kind of media they’ll feature in, but I think these designs make dynamic little toy figures and I’d be very interested to see how a cartoon in this style would animate, it looks like it would lend itself well to weird facial expressions and squish/stretch gags.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Carrehz on November 09, 2019, 01:50:18 PM
Then there is her husband, who had an entire episode in Powerpuff Girls dedicated to anti-feminist messages and villainizing women who use the Venus symbol... I actually remember anti-Faust fans making her responsible for this episode and harassing her for it until she apologized in her husband's name.

Sorry to nitpick, but Lauren Faust actually did write/storyboard that PPG ep ("Equal Fights").
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Taffeta on November 09, 2019, 02:08:33 PM
Twilight would be really cute if she wasn't meant to be Twilight and was indeed meant to be some kind of fox or cat friend of the ponies...

Kitsune maybe.

Customs anyone...?
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: starrynights on November 09, 2019, 02:28:02 PM
So, is anyone else planning on experimenting with acetone head shrinking on these?
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 09, 2019, 02:34:29 PM
Twilight would be really cute if she wasn't meant to be Twilight and was indeed meant to be some kind of fox or cat friend of the ponies...

Kitsune maybe.

Customs anyone...?

Giant Pretty Kitty/Little Litter customs?

The way the legs are attached are wrong" especially the front legs.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 09, 2019, 02:43:47 PM
Then there is her husband, who had an entire episode in Powerpuff Girls dedicated to anti-feminist messages and villainizing women who use the Venus symbol... I actually remember anti-Faust fans making her responsible for this episode and harassing her for it until she apologized in her husband's name.

Sorry to nitpick, but Lauren Faust actually did write/storyboard that PPG ep ("Equal Fights").
To be honest, I felt that episode was kind of misinterpreted by a lot of people, in different (well, two) ways.  Ultimately, I don't think the episode was hating men, women, feminists or anything - I think it was just saying you can go too far, and shouldn't view one side as bad.  It was flawed in places (that playground scene), but I think people got the wrong message from it (or only I did and everyone else got it right.)

Power Puff Girls was always a show of mixed feelings for me.


Twilight would be really cute if she wasn't meant to be Twilight and was indeed meant to be some kind of fox or cat friend of the ponies...

Kitsune maybe.

Customs anyone...?
Now that would be an episode I'd enjoy watching...
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Esbayne on November 09, 2019, 06:36:08 PM
Judas jumpin' priest, for the love of all that is sacred in this world, do not let these be G5. :X

These make G3.5 look adorable. Big oof. I haven't been so disappointed by a pony reveal in, well, ever. G3.5 was disappointing to me but this is a whole new level.

This is NOT MLP. This looks like LOL or something like that. The bulbous heads and big gaudy eyes on tiny bodies and RAINBOWS AND GLITTER EVERYWHERE trend that EVERYTHING seems to be following now. It has made toys so, so boring for me in the past few years, I barely even skim the toy aisles these days, where I used to be in them the split second I walked into a store.

Oooof. :(


I do agree with Taffeta though, the one thing these might be good for would be kitsune customs.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Minty_Magic on November 09, 2019, 07:09:42 PM
Okay, I’ll give in and say I think Twilight Sparkle is kinda cute. The raised hoof pose looks so bad. The head makes it look unbalanced to begin with, but then to have that huge seam where the leg meets the body? There are fakies with better quality than that. :mad: At least Twilight and Fluttershy look a little more... grounded, I guess, by being more static. I’m not over their side view of them though. They look so goofy. Why don’t they have a chin??

I’m getting the feeling Potion Nova will be a character in whatever special is coming up. I’m getting the feeling magic is going to be a big part of the storyline since we have Trixie in this line up too? It’s an interesting choice, so she must be playing a role in this somehow too.

Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Loa on November 09, 2019, 07:26:36 PM
Just a reminder to be kind and stick to the original thread premise! - Loa
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: lordalexander74 on November 09, 2019, 08:48:01 PM
I'd like to see a modern pony toy that actually looks like a pony. G1-G3 are great in that regard, G4 is decent. Anything else? Not so much. Might get Potion Nova and AJ at the least.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Wind~Whistler on November 09, 2019, 08:55:39 PM
Just noticed, but why does Twilight’s barrette appear to be the same size as her head?!
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 09, 2019, 09:39:36 PM
I'd like to see a modern pony toy that actually looks like a pony. G1-G3 are great in that regard, G4 is decent. Anything else? Not so much. Might get Potion Nova and AJ at the least.

Thank goodness for the basic funs, hqg1cs and g3 fakies.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Al-1701 on November 10, 2019, 03:55:28 AM
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Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 10, 2019, 04:37:45 AM
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Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Minty_Magic on November 10, 2019, 04:51:51 AM
Okay these might grow on me yet. Now that the inital shock has passed I'm starting to find some humor in them. Does anyone else thing their weird overbite is hilarious? Everytime I see them all I can think of is where would their teeth go? They remind me of that one meme with the greyhound with the big giant overbite?? And the meme is just the dog saying things in a really stupid manner?
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Everytime I see them from the side I pretty much see this and it just makes me giggle. :lol:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on November 10, 2019, 06:11:26 AM
Their overbite is a poor execution of the toy having an open mouth.
From the front the mouth looks okay-ish, but once you see it from the side... yeah..
The trot's legs are also not the right length but that isn't uncommon for G4s anyway with pool noodle legs even being a thing in the show lol.

I only plan on getting Potion Nova... maybe... I'm still not a fan of these initially but maybe they will grow on me...
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Sparkle Pony on November 10, 2019, 06:40:12 AM
From the original images, I thought these would be a bit bigger, but the same size as G4s?! I sense major issues with keeping these toys standing in the future.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Ponyfan on November 10, 2019, 06:53:36 AM
I'm still not a big fan of these. Someone mentioned that the ponies reminded them of Plagg from Miraculous Ladybug and now I can't unsee it.  Sometimes I think Hasbro must come up with new pony names at their company cocktail parties. Potion Nova doesn't make any sense.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 10, 2019, 06:58:45 AM
Yeah these def look.like they'd fall over a lot.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Al-1701 on November 10, 2019, 07:06:52 AM
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Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Zapper on November 10, 2019, 08:30:38 AM
Then there is her husband, who had an entire episode in Powerpuff Girls dedicated to anti-feminist messages and villainizing women who use the Venus symbol... I actually remember anti-Faust fans making her responsible for this episode and harassing her for it until she apologized in her husband's name.

Sorry to nitpick, but Lauren Faust actually did write/storyboard that PPG ep ("Equal Fights").

So is this why she apologized for him as well? Because it was his show and he let her do it? :lol:
Well, at least it explains why some people have had kneejerk reactions to her when she was announced to reboot MLP. Puts it a little more in perspective for me.

But if that is the case and she was 100% responsible for that episode, how come she is made responsible for stuff like Over A Barrel for okaying it as a showrunner when her husband (PPG showrunner) wasn't made responsible for okaying the Susan B. Anthony ep on Power Puff Girls? Craig has a Twitter and he could have gotten more smoke than her back  then but somehow she was singled out immediatly because FiM was about to come out. That was about the time there was an odd vitriol directed at her, blaming her for all kinds of stuff and then a sort of counter movement ensued celebrating her as creator of PPG (when she wasn't) and worshipping all her decisions.

Girl cartoons needed a revamp back when she was helming FiM. Not that she was the first one to do it, that honor I will gladly give to other women like Christy Marx.
Calling Faust a womanhater (that's what misogynist means) and saying she is virtually "throwing girls under the bus" is just as extreme as glorifying everything she did.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Al-1701 on November 10, 2019, 08:49:19 AM
I know a lot of people are relieved these things aren't G5.  However, this makes me worried G5 will be worse.  There has been a trend to eliminate equine elements to the design of the ponies starting with G3.5.  Making the snouts small, the eyes more forward.  With these things, the only thing equine about them is they have non-split hooves.  The heads aren't equine and even the shape of the legs isn't equine.

And this is a problem.  It's not that they're not making the toys realistically horse-like.  It's that they're so stylized they can't be recognized as horses anymore.  Why make a brand called My Little PONY if you don't want to make PONIES?

And the Faust thing should probably be moved to its own thread.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 10, 2019, 08:50:30 AM
I know a lot of people are relieved these things aren't G5.  However, this makes me worried G5 will be worse.  There has been a trend to eliminate equine elements to the design of the ponies starting with G3.5.  Making the snouts small, the eyes more forward.  With these things, the only thing equine about them is they have non-split hooves.  The heads aren't equine and even the shape of the legs isn't equine.

And this is a problem.  It's not that they're not making the toys realistically horse-like.  It's that they're so stylized they can't be recognized as horses anymore.  Why make a brand called My Little PONY if you don't want to make PONIES?

Because Hasbro sucks.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Carrehz on November 10, 2019, 08:55:06 AM
Zapper - I wasn't involved with the Faust conversation to begin with and frankly I don't care what people thought about that PPG ep, I'd rather just go back to talking about these MLP toys.

That said! Potion Nova really is a terrible name. It just feels like they went "okay, what to name her.. uhhhh... she has a potion on her butt, so.. Potion.... *throws a dart at a list of words* ...Nova... Potion Nova.. yeah... that'll do...".
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Al-1701 on November 10, 2019, 09:03:38 AM
I know a lot of people are relieved these things aren't G5.  However, this makes me worried G5 will be worse.  There has been a trend to eliminate equine elements to the design of the ponies starting with G3.5.  Making the snouts small, the eyes more forward.  With these things, the only thing equine about them is they have non-split hooves.  The heads aren't equine and even the shape of the legs isn't equine.

And this is a problem.  It's not that they're not making the toys realistically horse-like.  It's that they're so stylized they can't be recognized as horses anymore.  Why make a brand called My Little PONY if you don't want to make PONIES?

Because Hasbro sucks.
Sadly, that is the case.  And it's not just MLP.  Their board games department is wrecking the classics by trying to keep them hip with the new trends.  Their Disney lines are not as high quality as they were when Mattel made them.

And MLP naming has gotten terrible.  There use to be thought put into these, but now it does feel like they're throwing darts at a board to combine two words.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 10, 2019, 09:06:44 AM
I know a lot of people are relieved these things aren't G5.  However, this makes me worried G5 will be worse.  There has been a trend to eliminate equine elements to the design of the ponies starting with G3.5.  Making the snouts small, the eyes more forward.  With these things, the only thing equine about them is they have non-split hooves.  The heads aren't equine and even the shape of the legs isn't equine.

And this is a problem.  It's not that they're not making the toys realistically horse-like.  It's that they're so stylized they can't be recognized as horses anymore.  Why make a brand called My Little PONY if you don't want to make PONIES?

Because Hasbro sucks.
Sadly, that is the case.  And it's not just MLP.  Their board games department is wrecking the classics by trying to keep them hip with the new trends.  Their Disney lines are not as high quality as they were when Mattel made them.

And MLP naming has gotten terrible.  There use to be thought put into these, but now it does feel like they're throwing darts at a board to combine two words.

The naming has always been spotty.

Least this way I'll save money. And be able to pursue the rest of the G1s/G2s/G3s on my wishlist.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Wardah on November 10, 2019, 09:56:00 AM
I know a lot of people are relieved these things aren't G5.  However, this makes me worried G5 will be worse.  There has been a trend to eliminate equine elements to the design of the ponies starting with G3.5.  Making the snouts small, the eyes more forward.  With these things, the only thing equine about them is they have non-split hooves.  The heads aren't equine and even the shape of the legs isn't equine.

And this is a problem.  It's not that they're not making the toys realistically horse-like.  It's that they're so stylized they can't be recognized as horses anymore.  Why make a brand called My Little PONY if you don't want to make PONIES?

Because Hasbro sucks.
Sadly, that is the case.  And it's not just MLP.  Their board games department is wrecking the classics by trying to keep them hip with the new trends.  Their Disney lines are not as high quality as they were when Mattel made them.

Actually towards the end the Mattel Disney dolls were just as bad if not worse as some of the Disney stuff Hasbro is putting out. At least Hasbro has the Comfy Princess line and the Style Series dolls.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: SaraMari on November 10, 2019, 10:25:08 AM
Zapper - I already apologized for upsetting you and misunderstanding her quote, I still believe you have misunderstood me. But I am willing to admit my choice of words could be better. Can we get back on topic?
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Ponyfan on November 10, 2019, 11:05:39 AM

That said! Potion Nova really is a terrible name. It just feels like they went "okay, what to name her.. uhhhh... she has a potion on her butt, so.. Potion.... *throws a dart at a list of words* ...Nova... Potion Nova.. yeah... that'll do...".


I think this must be how Hasbro comes up with most of their pony names.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 10, 2019, 12:05:42 PM

That said! Potion Nova really is a terrible name. It just feels like they went "okay, what to name her.. uhhhh... she has a potion on her butt, so.. Potion.... *throws a dart at a list of words* ...Nova... Potion Nova.. yeah... that'll do...".


I think this must be how Hasbro comes up with most of their pony names.


Ponyfan

Me too. But add a stiff whiskey to the mix. XD
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Spectrum on November 10, 2019, 03:31:17 PM
I have a confession: Looking at the new images of them, I.. think they’re cute. Not the earth pony molds though.

Honestly these ponies are pretty much the same as any girls’ animal toy on shelves right now. Giant heads and big eyes are the norm.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Wonderfalls on November 10, 2019, 03:45:16 PM
Wait... so are these G5 or not?

And does anyone know if these are hard plastic instead of vinyl. I personally would love to see more hard plastic horses in general.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: PinkieLopBun on November 10, 2019, 03:48:02 PM
Wait... so are these G5 or not?
They’re not.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Nemesis on November 10, 2019, 04:45:03 PM
Eh... Potion Nova is still a better name than “Tootie Tails”. XD

That said, I still don’t hate these. I don’t really like them, either. I’m just glad they aren’t G5.

I’m still hoping G5 will look more like that concept art that leaked, with the Celestia-esque builds...
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: caseysealia on November 10, 2019, 04:46:30 PM
Wait... so are these G5 or not?
They’re not.
They might be preparing us though, that's something we'll have to wait and see about :huh:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: SunbeamV on November 10, 2019, 07:14:43 PM
If these are a transitional point towards g5, I honestly have a feeling the feathered hooves are gonna stick around. Based on that concept art that was leaked forever ago, maybe they'll end up with a more slender build like g2s, but with bigger eyes and more chibi-fied faces like g4? That's my hope anyway. Trying to stay positive here  :lol:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 10, 2019, 08:33:15 PM
If these are a transitional point towards g5, I honestly have a feeling the feathered hooves are gonna stick around. Based on that concept art that was leaked forever ago, maybe they'll end up with a more slender build like g2s, but with bigger eyes and more chibi-fied faces like g4? That's my hope anyway. Trying to stay positive here  :lol:

Yuck. No more chibi non ponies.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: otocolobus_manul on November 10, 2019, 08:51:02 PM
If these are a transitional point towards g5, I honestly have a feeling the feathered hooves are gonna stick around. Based on that concept art that was leaked forever ago, maybe they'll end up with a more slender build like g2s, but with bigger eyes and more chibi-fied faces like g4? That's my hope anyway. Trying to stay positive here  :lol:

That sounds cute! Just so long as they don’t have completely flat faces with giant ears. I think that’s what made these latest toys so disturbing - they look like this:
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Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Nemesis on November 10, 2019, 09:00:42 PM
That sounds cute! Just so long as they don’t have completely flat faces with giant ears. I think that’s what made these latest toys so disturbing - they look like this:
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You say disturbing... I say: I need that to be a real animal. XD
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Ragamuffin on November 10, 2019, 09:31:40 PM
If these are a transitional point towards g5, I honestly have a feeling the feathered hooves are gonna stick around. Based on that concept art that was leaked forever ago, maybe they'll end up with a more slender build like g2s, but with bigger eyes and more chibi-fied faces like g4? That's my hope anyway. Trying to stay positive here  :lol:

That sounds cute! Just so long as they don’t have completely flat faces with giant ears. I think that’s what made these latest toys so disturbing - they look like this:
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Hmm. Unlikely. The nose is too big for Hasbro to consider this design. :P
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: BubbleTea on November 10, 2019, 11:57:44 PM
oh no

After seeing the new Twilight, Potion Nova, and Trixie I think I might be starting to like these :lookround:.

Spoiler
I need help  :blink:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: SunbeamV on November 11, 2019, 12:18:02 AM
That sounds cute! Just so long as they don’t have completely flat faces with giant ears. I think that’s what made these latest toys so disturbing - they look like this:
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 :rofl:

My roommate keeps saying they look like this!:

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Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on November 11, 2019, 04:38:34 AM
I gave it a shot to do lines on these and well not accurate because plastic packaging distorts things but still... nope nope nope

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Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: LunaCat on November 11, 2019, 06:15:31 AM
Has Hasbro forgot why it's called MY Little Pony? When I was a kid I was crazy for anything horse, weather it was books, movies or toys. My Little Pony was an awesome toy to have then. They looked like ponies and I could brush them, it's every kid's dream to have a little pony. ^.^

Try brushing the hair on those ugly things.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 11, 2019, 06:18:13 AM
If these are a transitional point towards g5, I honestly have a feeling the feathered hooves are gonna stick around. Based on that concept art that was leaked forever ago, maybe they'll end up with a more slender build like g2s, but with bigger eyes and more chibi-fied faces like g4? That's my hope anyway. Trying to stay positive here  :lol:

That sounds cute! Just so long as they don’t have completely flat faces with giant ears. I think that’s what made these latest toys so disturbing - they look like this:
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Ha! Reminds me of Syd the Sloth in the evolution cave.
Has Hasbro forgot why it's called MY Little Pony? When I was a kid I was crazy for anything horse, weather it was books, movies or toys. My Little Pony was an awesome toy to have then. They looked like ponies and I could brush them, it's every kid's dream to have a little pony. ^.^

Try brushing the hair on those ugly things.

Precisely! :iconclap:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Nemesis on November 11, 2019, 06:48:07 AM
I gave it a shot to do lines on these and well not accurate because plastic packaging distorts things but still... nope nope nope

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Oh wow... That jawline looks so much worse when you actually outline it. :shocked:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Ponyfan on November 11, 2019, 08:03:10 AM
This is Plagg from Miraculous Ladybug.

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A few  are saying that these new ponies look remind them of Plagg.



Oh boy, toys of upcoming movie New G4 pony toy designs have been sighted in Amazon Ca and UK.

I don't personally like their big heads, pointy ears and weird snouts.

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https://www.amazon.ca/Hasbro-MLP-Fluttershy-Mermaid/dp/B07ZK46DYS/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=my+little+pony&qid=1572679085&refinements=p_n_availability:12035748011,p_89:Hasbro|My+Little+Pony&rnid=7590290011&s=toys&sr=1-8&linkCode=sl1&tag=mm0bc-20&linkId=8887a78301448ae422989e7856e6bb2d&language=en_CA

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https://www.amazon.ca/Hasbro-MLP-Rarity-Princess/dp/B07ZK46DYR/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=my+little+pony&qid=1572679085&refinements=p_n_availability:12035748011,p_89:Hasbro|My+Little+Pony&rnid=7590290011&s=toys&sr=1-7&linkCode=sl1&tag=mm0bc-20&linkId=1976c6cccfc916b73fcb7209161b7b9c&language=en_CA

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Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Galactica on November 11, 2019, 08:58:00 AM
Oh- so if they aren't G5-  they are just G4 redesigned again?  How odd.  I wonder if they will make it as far as stores.  The more I look at them the more ridiculous they look.

I kinda wonder if they are copying Funko and giving them eyes to set them apart from those soul staring black button eyes that the funko ponies have...
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 11, 2019, 11:30:59 AM

That said! Potion Nova really is a terrible name. It just feels like they went "okay, what to name her.. uhhhh... she has a potion on her butt, so.. Potion.... *throws a dart at a list of words* ...Nova... Potion Nova.. yeah... that'll do...".


I think this must be how Hasbro comes up with most of their pony names.


Ponyfan

Me too. But add a stiff whiskey to the mix. XD
I might actually try this method for naming ponies in my project - I have named some, but there are many unnamed ones, so it's worth a shot (I'll only use ones that look good to me though.)

Semi-Joking aside, I do tend to get ideas for pony names by finding some words that kind of go with each other (or that are already together that look like a pony name - I remember seeing a drink called "Sun Chaser" for example and thought it looked like a pony's name, though I've yet to use it.)

I also found that I could actually "create" names by combining the non-month parts of the neighboring names for the Jewel Birthday Ponies in G3 of all things - I'll admit I'm not sure about "Fantastical Joy" or "Joy Fantastic", but the others actually work as names for me.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Ragamuffin on November 12, 2019, 11:26:53 AM
Well, if you're not a fan of the toys... maybe you'll like the art better?? Hasbro on Instagram has been teasing something, maybe a webseries?

:lmao:
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Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: caseysealia on November 12, 2019, 11:35:57 AM
I don't mind these new teasers they make me think of 2000s cartoons? But this isn't how MLP should be. G3 wasn't like this and it was on DURING the 2000s. I really think they should drop MLP until they get their act together.....
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: CloudyGlow on November 12, 2019, 11:36:43 AM
I'm scared. I don't like those ugly images. They are lazy with text just slapped on and the ponies are too cartoony and ridiculous. FiM was already pushing that cartoony stuff and did it well enough, but I think they need to step back before they fall off that cliff
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Carrehz on November 12, 2019, 12:39:23 PM
Hahahahaha oh my god, Hasbro, what are you doing?? XD
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 12, 2019, 12:55:21 PM
Well, if you're not a fan of the toys... maybe you'll like the art better?? Hasbro on Instagram has been teasing something, maybe a webseries?

:lmao:
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Ewww
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: otocolobus_manul on November 12, 2019, 01:27:31 PM
I... I thought you were joking about those images.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on November 12, 2019, 01:28:24 PM
I like the new toys but I very much hate the art they're using on social media to promote them. It's super ugly.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Al-1701 on November 12, 2019, 01:53:18 PM
[Insert Steve Carell "NO!" meltdown here]

I think I'm done with new pony for a while.  I still enjoy G1, but wake me up after this crashes and burns and Hasbro gets back to basics with MLP.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 12, 2019, 02:44:30 PM
[Insert Steve Carell "NO!" meltdown here]

I think I'm done with new pony for a while.  I still enjoy G1, but wake me up after this crashes and burns and Hasbro gets back to basics with MLP.

Prepare yourself for a loooong coma then Sleeping Beauty. I don't think it'll be anytime soon.   :nope:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Al-1701 on November 12, 2019, 07:00:04 PM
I got other things to hold my interest, and again there is G1.  I'm just done with the outrage at this point.  FiM squandered its potential, and what's coming afterwards seems to have no potential to start with.  I might peak in to see if what we actually get is not as bad as it looks, but if it is I'm just going to bow out.  It's just another storied brand Hasbro has mutilated for the sake of catering to modern trends.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Dragonflitter on November 12, 2019, 07:36:40 PM
I guess I can't say I'm surprised, because the style of these new MLP's mimics a lot of everything that is popular right now. The 'flat face' and the large head and eyes and ears look like so much of what is on the market right now and in children's programming. (Their heads look exactly like Beast Boy from Teen Titans Go...)

It's just disappointing that Hasbro is doing nothing original. Everything is just "Whatever is popular right now? Copy that." I honestly am surprised that the ponies don't come with some sort of slime or goo in a little container because that's the only other big thing in kids toys right now that isn't represented here.

Even the 'blind box' gimick that is popular in 50% of girls small toys is present. I was really confused about the giant potion bottle on the packages because it looked like there was something hidden behind it but I couldn't figure out what, until I saw the pictures on the MLP Merch site that shows there are hidden accessories. Really, Hasbro? Do we care about pony barrettes and headbands so much that we're going to buy these just to find out what accessory is 'hidden' behind the potion bottle? Is the plan to have different accessories with the same pony, but you can't see what accessory is there so you might buy multiples of the same toy to try to get all the different accessories? Ugh, I just can't.

The only positive I can say for this line is that I'm glad they kept them as brushables and didn't go with a molded hair toy. I guess the line of FiM 'action figures' that were supposed to appeal to older collectors and boys didn't go as well as Hasbro hoped, because these tried-and-true brushables are the line that Hasbro always returns to.

I think Ragamuffin is right and I'll bet we'll see a webseries with short little jokey videos to keep the brand alive until the next movie and cartoon are ready to go, and it will probably be in this style.

If that's the case, maybe we should refer to this as G5 and the upcoming movie/show that will be out in a year or so would be G6?
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on November 12, 2019, 07:43:38 PM
The styling size Rarity is in stock on US Amazon!

https://www.amazon.com/My-Little-Pony-Hair-Styling-Accessories/dp/B07V51XG29/

I think Ragamuffin is right and I'll bet we'll see a webseries with short little jokey videos to keep the brand alive until the next movie and cartoon are ready to go, and it will probably be in this style.

If that's the case, maybe we should refer to this as G5 and the upcoming movie/show that will be out in a year or so would be G6?

Eh, I think they should still be called G4s if that's the case. They seem to be the exact same characters as before, like Twilight's still an alicorn so it's not like they reset anything about the Mane 6. It'd be one thing if it was something like the leaks from a couple years ago where the main cast looks similar and has the same names as G4's Mane 6 but the characters themselves are different, but these just straight up seem to be canonically the exact same characters, just in a new style. Like when G3 changed its look to G3.5 but the Core 7 were still the same characters.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 12, 2019, 08:11:12 PM
Thanks for the heads up! $20 is a bit much, ack. I'm curious what the MSRP is. 
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Wind~Whistler on November 12, 2019, 08:16:03 PM
Thanks for the heads up! $20 is a bit much, ack. I'm curious what the MSRP is.
Considering she’s a gimmicky pony, I’m afraid that’ll be her price range  >_<
However, she’s described as a 6.5-inch pony, so she won’t be small.

EDIT: How much do y’all wanna bet she’ll show up commonly with haircuts in some time?  :P
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 12, 2019, 08:21:53 PM
BOUGHT HER! She is set to deliver Thursday, I intend to review her.
Does anyone have any questions that they'd like to me test out? I'll try to be thorough. I might even try to pop off her head. 
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: AvianWing on November 12, 2019, 08:24:17 PM
Well, if you're not a fan of the toys... maybe you'll like the art better?? Hasbro on Instagram has been teasing something, maybe a webseries?

:lmao:
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How you feelin' about a whole new look?

NOT GOOD AT ALL, THANKS.

I think I'm "feelin'" kinda sick...
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Dragonflitter on November 12, 2019, 10:38:10 PM
Well yeah, when your head is 2/3 your entire body weight, you must feel sick from the neck strain of holding your head up all the time....
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: CloudyGlow on November 13, 2019, 08:30:19 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4z8Qrwpkyy/?igshid=17f7wj4hsqusl (https://www.instagram.com/p/B4z8Qrwpkyy/?igshid=17f7wj4hsqusl)

Well, there's going to be a new animated series with this to look forward to.  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: AvianWing on November 13, 2019, 09:03:01 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4z8Qrwpkyy/?igshid=17f7wj4hsqusl (https://www.instagram.com/p/B4z8Qrwpkyy/?igshid=17f7wj4hsqusl)

Well, there's going to be a new animated series with this to look forward to.  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

...I was right to feel sick, wasn't I?
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on November 13, 2019, 09:11:00 AM
Some quick screenshots, to take a longer look and let it sink in...  :lol:

Apparently the show is going to be even more slice of life than FiM.

If the writing is as hilarious as the designs, I might be game for the show. But the toys are still nowhere near the animated version (but maybe that's a good thing in this case). Again. Like everyone said, it seems like a quick copy/paste of what works ATM.

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Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Harmonie on November 13, 2019, 09:14:52 AM
Setting aside the fact that this is supposed to be My Little Pony, I don't actually hate the animation designs completely. Although I'm afraid that something about the vibe of the designs reminds me of gross 90s cartoons like Ren & Stimpy. I can't imagine that MLP would ever go down such a route itself, but those character designs sure do scream that kind of cartoon.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on November 13, 2019, 09:19:40 AM
I'm getting Thundercats Roar vibes from this.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Nemesis on November 13, 2019, 09:21:20 AM
If they would just... add... lower jaws... -_- Then I could at least like the toys. Somehow, every preview image of these ponies makes the mouths look even worse.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 13, 2019, 09:25:55 AM
I'm getting Thundercats Roar vibes from this.

Ditto.  :pout:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Shadowperla on November 13, 2019, 02:13:14 PM
D: NO

What is that Rarity blob doing?
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 13, 2019, 02:14:59 PM
D: NO

What is that Rarity blob doing?

Blobity looks like she's getting ready to make an unclassy joke.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: caseysealia on November 13, 2019, 02:17:45 PM
Kinda getting Gravity Falls/Amazing world of Gumball vibes from them. Works for other cartoons but not this one. Not this one.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: otocolobus_manul on November 13, 2019, 02:26:00 PM
This is a pretty minor nitpick, but why do they say “somethin’ good is coming”? That sounds so dumb. If you dropped the g from “something”, you’d drop it for “coming”.

Also, the animation style reminds me of every in-questionable-taste animated pony parody ever.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Al-1701 on November 13, 2019, 02:45:13 PM
Well, there goes my hope the change in decade will get animation off the snide.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 13, 2019, 02:47:32 PM
Well, there goes my hope the change in decade will get animation off the snide.

Heh. Animation has only been getting worse this last decade. Shows like Korra, Voltron, Animated Castlevania and Dragon Prince are some of the few holdouts.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 13, 2019, 03:16:15 PM
Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion.  Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade.  :lovey:

I'll admit the art of the animation here looks like a step down from previous cartoons, but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.

The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 13, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion.  Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade.  :lovey:

I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.

The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)

Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame. 
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Nemesis on November 13, 2019, 03:27:34 PM
Animation styles being “good” or “bad” is a matter of taste, IMO. I’m sure plenty of people groan when they see the antiquated, error-riddled animation of the 80s/90s. I’ve learned to appreciate the old AND the new. :)
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 13, 2019, 03:36:14 PM
Anyone who can say that TTG, Rise of the Turtles, Thundercats Roar, Uncle Grandpa, Mega Man Fully Charged etc. etc. are  beautiful, well animated toons have one heckuva poker face. In fact I heard nothing but the exact opposite.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 13, 2019, 03:47:00 PM
Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion.  Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade.  :lovey:

I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.

The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)

Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.

This decade gave us the following things;

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor

Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are.  Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Nemesis on November 13, 2019, 03:50:31 PM
Anyone who can say that TTG, Rise of the Turtles, Thundercats Roar, Uncle Grandpa, Mega Man Fully Charged etc. etc. are  beautiful, well animated toons have one heckuva poker face. In fact I heard nothing but the exact opposite.

What about Over the Garden Wall, Hilda, Dreamworks’ Dragons, Miraculous Ladybug, Ever After High, etc.? Even some of the “cartoonier” shows like Chowder or Gumball have distinctive styles that may not appeal to everyone, but are certainly not lazy or unoriginal.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 13, 2019, 03:53:19 PM
Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion.  Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade.  :lovey:

I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.

The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)

Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.

This decade gave us the following things;

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor

Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are.  Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.

FiM is cheap CN flash-crap.

I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.

Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: lonewolf on November 13, 2019, 04:02:15 PM
So now I'm really wondering what the official generation # these should be. Maybe those 2nd design G4's should be called G4.2, and these G4.5?
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: CloudyGlow on November 13, 2019, 04:04:13 PM
Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion.  Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade.  :lovey:

I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.

The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)

Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.

This decade gave us the following things;

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor

Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are.  Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.

FiM is cheap CN flash-crap.

I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.

Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.

I have seen cheap crap flash animation. It's that new Magic School Bus show, not FiM
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: caseysealia on November 13, 2019, 04:06:45 PM
Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion.  Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade.  :lovey:

I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.

The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)

Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.

This decade gave us the following things;

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor

Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are.  Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.

FiM is pretty cheap cn flash-crap.

I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.

Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.
I don't think Gumball is ANYTHING like Chowder, animation is similar, but even so I don't think of Chowder while watching Gumball, or vise versa. They are very different. We also had Gravity Falls, early FIM, Over the Garden Wall, Regular Show ect. I think its been the best era for cartoons since the 80s, (not really in recent years, more so 2010-2015) but still a lot of cartoons are watchable, most are, you just have shows like Teen Titans Go that overshadow them.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 13, 2019, 04:09:15 PM
Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion.  Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade.  :lovey:

I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.

The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)

Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.

This decade gave us the following things;

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor

Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are.  Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.

FiM is cheap CN flash-crap.

I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.

Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.

I have seen cheap crap flash animation. It's that new Magic School Bus show, not FiM

FiM looks like a million other cheap flash crap, cookie cutter toons that came out in the late 90s onward. But I suppose since that's nearly all this generation of toons does, (or Pixar knock-offs) one could be possibly mistaken for thinking its somehow a cut above the rest.

Post Merge: November 13, 2019, 04:10:14 PM

Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion.  Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade.  :lovey:

I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.

The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)

Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.

This decade gave us the following things;

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor

Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are.  Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.

FiM is pretty cheap cn flash-crap.

I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.

Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.
I don't think Gumball is ANYTHING like Chowder, animation is similar, but even so I don't think of Chowder while watching Gumball, or vise versa. They are very different. We also had Gravity Falls, early FIM, Over the Garden Wall, Regular Show ect. I think its been the best era for cartoons since the 80s, (not really in recent years, more so 2010-2015) but still a lot of cartoons are watchable, most are, you just have shows like Teen Titans Go that overshadow them.

If you don't think its anything like Chowder why did you say the animation is similar?  :silly:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: CloudyGlow on November 13, 2019, 04:10:23 PM
Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion.  Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade.  :lovey:

I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.

The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)

Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.

This decade gave us the following things;

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor

Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are.  Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.

FiM is cheap CN flash-crap.

I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.

Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.

I have seen cheap crap flash animation. It's that new Magic School Bus show, not FiM

FiM looks like a million other cheap flash crap, cookie cutter toons that came out in the late 90s onward. But I suppose since that's nearly all this generation of toons does, (or Pixar knock-offs) one could be possibly forgiven for thinking its somehow a cut above the rest.

Oh, so now I need to be forgiven? I don't like your attitude
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 13, 2019, 04:11:15 PM
Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion.  Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade.  :lovey:

I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.

The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)

Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.

This decade gave us the following things;

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor

Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are.  Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.

FiM is cheap CN flash-crap.

I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.

Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.

I have seen cheap crap flash animation. It's that new Magic School Bus show, not FiM

FiM looks like a million other cheap flash crap, cookie cutter toons that came out in the late 90s onward. But I suppose since that's nearly all this generation of toons does, (or Pixar knock-offs) one could be possibly forgiven for thinking its somehow a cut above the rest.

Oh, so now I need to be forgiven? I don't like your attitude

Its a figure of speech Cloudy. I'll fix it to mistaken.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: CloudyGlow on November 13, 2019, 04:12:13 PM
I'm so tired of this thread now. I've had a wild day
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: caseysealia on November 13, 2019, 04:18:36 PM

[/quote]

If you don't think its anything like Chowder why did you say the animation is similar?  :silly:
[/quote] Its not?? PLOT wise, and animation wise the only similarity it has is the post-2010 head style, that Disney AND CN both use. The similarity ends there. They are completely different otherwise, plot and such.

Post Merge: November 13, 2019, 04:22:38 PM

I'm so tired of this thread now. I've had a wild day
This is mood.  :blink:
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 13, 2019, 04:41:18 PM
Animation of this decade has been mostly good, in my opinion.  Seriously, there's been a lot of beautiful stuff this decade.  :lovey:

I'll admit the animation here looks like a step down from most of the previous cartoons (I'll need to see it next to Newborn Cuties, but I think these ones look closer to ponies than NBC, so there's that - I do like NBC though), but I'll watch the show before I decide on my overall opinion.

The promos for them are pretty lazy in my opinion - the video for them just goes around the toys like a low quality fanmade video, and as for the pictures, I couldn't even tell what I was looking at when I saw them (still can't in places.)

Suuuure there has. Nothing is more breathtakingly beautiful then the slew of ttg and adventure time clones that came out this decade. :rolleyes: Why, the visual quality of those shows put low talent hacks like Walt Disney and Hayao Miyazaki to shame.
We had a lot more than Teen Titans GO this year (side note: it's not overplayed in the UK if that helps) and... I can't think of single Adventure Time clone, so I think I'm missing something.

This decade gave us the following things;

My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Shimmer and Shine
Sofia The First
Miraculous Ladybug
Elena of Avalor

Those shows specifically are beautifully done in my opinion, I'm inspired by how beautiful they are.  Other shows of this decade are either cute or fun (or both) and have more effort than Teen Titans GO seems to.

FiM is cheap CN flash-crap.

I did mention holdouts. But they're few and far between.

Copycatting Pixar is original? And in terms of animation style, Gumball is a Chowder rip-off.
FiM is in no way cheap in my opinion, even if you place flash as the lowest form of animation, I can clearly see that FiM made a lot of effort with what it had, and created something very beautiful - not as much as the other shows I mentioned or earlier things like G3 (not of this decade, I know), but it showed that flash can be beautiful and well detailed.  It showed you can do flash, and not do the bare minimum.  Compared to other flash cartoons I've seen, it stands out like whatever the good version of a saw thumb is.

Was the Pixar thing aimed at me?  I no longer care about originality if it was - it is what you view it as.

I know the Gumball/Chowder thing wasn't aimed at me, but I can't see how anyone can call Gumball's animation a rip-off of anything - it's a show made up of multiple animation styles.  It's the same as that picture floating around that's supposed say all CalArts cartoons look the same (which they don't really, it's just a similar style) it shouldn't include Gumball (the character), because, even if he is CalArts, not everyone in his show is.

There's definitely other things of this decade (I'd consider ALVINNN!!! and the Chipmunks as an example in a way - I know the chimpmunks are too humanized, but the scenery is beautiful in places), but the ones I mentioned are the first things I think of when I think of "beautiful" (I think of G3 before FiM, but the rule was "came out this decade".

There are far more shows this decade I think look good this decade than look bad, even if we don't limit ourselves to "looking beautiful".  At the end of the day, it's what is actually done with the animation, and how much effort shines through that matters in terms of looks, and I see a lot of effort in many things this decade - it's not all Teen Titans GO

All animation can look good if done right, and admittedly if the show's good it can help as well (but it works both ways.)
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 13, 2019, 05:01:56 PM


If you don't think its anything like Chowder why did you say the animation is similar?  :silly:
[/quote] Its not?? PLOT wise, and animation wise the only similarity it has is the post-2010 head style, that Disney AND CN both use. The similarity ends there. They are completely different otherwise, plot and such.

Post Merge: November 13, 2019, 04:22:38 PM

I'm so tired of this thread now. I've had a wild day
This is mood.  :blink:
[/quote]


Never said they were the same plot wise. But the animation has similarities up to and including cats, rabbits, usage of real life items, surreal animated moments , similarities in body shape, eyes and movement,etc. Could be that some of the people who worked on Chowder, also worked on Gumball as well. Which could explain the similarities, in which case I retract my statement.


MJN, No the Pixar comment wasn't aimed at you, but at Nemesis.


And FiM is as cheap and cookie cutter as the rest. Colorful, sure.. But beautiful? Not in the least. It can't compare to a multitude of other animation that didnt use flash. Cyberverse is colorful too but in no way can I call it beautiful, being an even more simplified version of Prime and RiD15.


Pony Life sure as heck isn't pretty being TTG 3.0
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Al-1701 on November 13, 2019, 05:24:53 PM
Well, I opened a can of worms.

I know this is a placeholder, but I was thinking they were going to allow for a cooldown period between the end of FiM and the beginning of G5.  Considering G5 is going to be the same character just species bent, this runs more of a risk of brand fatigue.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Nemesis on November 13, 2019, 05:30:58 PM
MJN, No the Pixar comment wasn't aimed at you, but at Nemesis.


And FiM is as cheap and cookie cutter as the rest. Colorful, sure.. But beautiful? Not in the least. It can't compare to a multitude of other animation that didnt use flash. Cyberverse is colorful too but in no way can I call it beautiful, being an even more simplified version of Prime and RiD15.

The two shows I called different and original were Chowder and Gumball. There’s no way those can be compared to Pixar. The rest of the shows I simply held up as examples of good animation from the past decade. :)

And personally, I find FiM quite beautiful. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, in the end.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 13, 2019, 05:32:34 PM
Thanks for explaining about the Pixar comment.

I personally can call FiM beautiful, and part of that is because it's colorful, but also because I think the characters have a nice design to it.  If you don't see it, then fine, we have different opinions on animation, but it definitely stands out to me, like they did something more with it.  Even if they simply polished it, it looks better than other flash shows to me - flash admittedly always looked kind of flat and simple when I saw it, and sometimes it still can, but FiM showed it could have more depth to it and could stand out more.  I would definitely say it's beautiful, personally.

Sorry if I'm coming across as argumentative, and I do respect it if you have a different opinion.  I have a nostalgic attachment to the shows I mentioned, and also this decade, so I am quick to respond in "defence" of it, but I can still respect opinions, and see the flaws in what I like - as beautiful as I find FiM it is still lower than The Beautiful Generation (that's what I nickname G3), and it can ruin it's own beauty at times by trying too hard with it's animation (like the wacky facial expressions from post-season five.)

Also, while I'm in no way saying the Pony Life animation looks beautiful, the more I look at it, the less I think it looks like Teen Titans GO, it's definitely chibi and simplistic, but TTG?  Nope... different style to me.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: otocolobus_manul on November 13, 2019, 06:29:43 PM
Steven Universe and Gravity Falls had some very pretty, detailed backgrounds, imo. FIM had some good ones too, especially in later seasons.

Also, I wonder what the hair quality on these toys will be like? From the pictures, it doesn’t look good.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 13, 2019, 06:35:07 PM
Ok anyway.
Now I have to amend all my reboot brushable edits on the wiki. Sigh. Work never ends.  :work:
My friend started a wiki (seperate from mlp.fandom) for the new show so I'll certainly be involved!
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: PinkRosedust on November 13, 2019, 06:37:00 PM
Did those My Little Ponies just sing a profanity? :O

The toys have grown on me a bit. A BIT. They're kinda cute in their own way but too similar to lots of other toys out there and like pony toys can be so beautiful and graceful as seen in gens 1-3 why do they have to do this?? You don't have to do this Hasbro -_-

I'm really disappointed that this is the way MLP is going and hope that it is only temporary. I miss G4 already and I haven't even watched like the last 3 seasons hah. Not a fan of the overly goofy/dramatic/squishy animation in that little Instagram clip. I get that it's for kids but it could have SOME dignity couldn't it? I mean I'll reserve my actual judgement for when I've seen the real thing but my hopes aren't high based on that glimpse.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Nemesis on November 13, 2019, 06:48:12 PM
Also, I wonder what the hair quality on these toys will be like? From the pictures, it doesn’t look good.

It looks like the same hair used in the “Retro” Mane Six pack... So yeah, probably on the cheap side. :/

Still, I think I’ll buy at least one. I like to have every style of pony represented in my collection, for contrast.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 13, 2019, 07:28:29 PM
At least the "retro" mane 6 have nice feeling hair. It looks like from a pic that the hair quality will be down again, sadly. I'll hopefully be able to edit the review as soon as possible tomorrow to have it come out late that night.
Title: Re: New G4 pony toy designs
Post by: Loa on November 13, 2019, 09:51:31 PM
Enough.
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