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Mattel: -in the 90s, early 2000s, i loved barbie (my childhood). -MH and EAH in the beginning (their first few years were great with all the detail etc)I agree with you that barbie quality has declined and so had MH and EAH(moulded clothes ew)MGA:- Project Mc2 (LOVED THE LINE FROM THE START!) everything about them is awesome (except for the wobbly knees)
I don't think it's fair to compare dolls from the 2000s to things now. Dolls during that time were just better quality and My Scene was pretty much on par with Bratz quality wise during that time.Currently MGA tends to release higher quality dolls but they also tend to not do well because they are priced accordingly. In the current doll market expensive dolls don't do as well which is why EAH wasn't as huge a hit as Mattel had hoped. Project MC2 costs $25 for a deluxe with an experiment and the only reason they are successful despite the high price point is because the educational component. The Deluxe Electrified dolls don't even hit $20 and come with hair accessories so of course they aren't as high quality. At least when it comes to play line you get what you pay for.
Quote from: Wardah on January 04, 2017, 07:56:34 PMI don't think it's fair to compare dolls from the 2000s to things now. Dolls during that time were just better quality and My Scene was pretty much on par with Bratz quality wise during that time.Currently MGA tends to release higher quality dolls but they also tend to not do well because they are priced accordingly. In the current doll market expensive dolls don't do as well which is why EAH wasn't as huge a hit as Mattel had hoped. Project MC2 costs $25 for a deluxe with an experiment and the only reason they are successful despite the high price point is because the educational component. The Deluxe Electrified dolls don't even hit $20 and come with hair accessories so of course they aren't as high quality. At least when it comes to play line you get what you pay for.I own several MyScenes and Barbies from the 2000s. They are better quality than everything current but I can honestly still say that even most of their clothes feel flimsier and not as sturdy when compared to the Bratz dolls back then. New Bratz are a flop but unlike Mattel's current stuff they didn't skimp out on things like pants/leggings, accessory and shoe paint, and used more than 2 kinds of fabrics. Project MC2 dolls in both their deluxe and basic lines definitely have better quality clothing and and also don't skimp out on details when compared to Mattel's current offerings. I can't even remember the last time Mattel used real denim.
Quote from: mlly on January 05, 2017, 12:19:53 AMQuote from: Wardah on January 04, 2017, 07:56:34 PMI don't think it's fair to compare dolls from the 2000s to things now. Dolls during that time were just better quality and My Scene was pretty much on par with Bratz quality wise during that time.Currently MGA tends to release higher quality dolls but they also tend to not do well because they are priced accordingly. In the current doll market expensive dolls don't do as well which is why EAH wasn't as huge a hit as Mattel had hoped. Project MC2 costs $25 for a deluxe with an experiment and the only reason they are successful despite the high price point is because the educational component. The Deluxe Electrified dolls don't even hit $20 and come with hair accessories so of course they aren't as high quality. At least when it comes to play line you get what you pay for.I own several MyScenes and Barbies from the 2000s. They are better quality than everything current but I can honestly still say that even most of their clothes feel flimsier and not as sturdy when compared to the Bratz dolls back then. New Bratz are a flop but unlike Mattel's current stuff they didn't skimp out on things like pants/leggings, accessory and shoe paint, and used more than 2 kinds of fabrics. Project MC2 dolls in both their deluxe and basic lines definitely have better quality clothing and and also don't skimp out on details when compared to Mattel's current offerings. I can't even remember the last time Mattel used real denim.You know the more I think about it the more I realize that each one has their strengths. MGA is very good when it comes to clothing but in general Mattel has better quality bodies. The original Bratz had some of the best clothes in playline but I could never understand why people liked their bodies since they had even less range of movement than even a basic Barbie. Their T jointed hips meant the legs could go forward or back but never apart.Tho one thing I've noticed is MGA is rather famous for having their prototypes to be much better quality than the releases. The only time recently that I've seen that happen with Mattel was Epic Winter to the point where someone called what Mattel did "pulling an MGA".I still say that yes in general maybe MGA tends to have higher quality dolls but they are usually more expensive. The Project MC2 basic dolls are the same price as the articulated MH First Day of School dolls. While the Project MC2 dolls definitely have better outfits they aren't articulated and lack any extra accessories like a purse. I'd shudder to think what a Project MC2 doll that was priced in the $5-$10 range would look like. MGA doesn't even bother to go that cheap.
Quote from: Wardah on January 05, 2017, 06:04:41 PMQuote from: mlly on January 05, 2017, 12:19:53 AMQuote from: Wardah on January 04, 2017, 07:56:34 PMI don't think it's fair to compare dolls from the 2000s to things now. Dolls during that time were just better quality and My Scene was pretty much on par with Bratz quality wise during that time.Currently MGA tends to release higher quality dolls but they also tend to not do well because they are priced accordingly. In the current doll market expensive dolls don't do as well which is why EAH wasn't as huge a hit as Mattel had hoped. Project MC2 costs $25 for a deluxe with an experiment and the only reason they are successful despite the high price point is because the educational component. The Deluxe Electrified dolls don't even hit $20 and come with hair accessories so of course they aren't as high quality. At least when it comes to play line you get what you pay for.I own several MyScenes and Barbies from the 2000s. They are better quality than everything current but I can honestly still say that even most of their clothes feel flimsier and not as sturdy when compared to the Bratz dolls back then. New Bratz are a flop but unlike Mattel's current stuff they didn't skimp out on things like pants/leggings, accessory and shoe paint, and used more than 2 kinds of fabrics. Project MC2 dolls in both their deluxe and basic lines definitely have better quality clothing and and also don't skimp out on details when compared to Mattel's current offerings. I can't even remember the last time Mattel used real denim.You know the more I think about it the more I realize that each one has their strengths. MGA is very good when it comes to clothing but in general Mattel has better quality bodies. The original Bratz had some of the best clothes in playline but I could never understand why people liked their bodies since they had even less range of movement than even a basic Barbie. Their T jointed hips meant the legs could go forward or back but never apart.Tho one thing I've noticed is MGA is rather famous for having their prototypes to be much better quality than the releases. The only time recently that I've seen that happen with Mattel was Epic Winter to the point where someone called what Mattel did "pulling an MGA".I still say that yes in general maybe MGA tends to have higher quality dolls but they are usually more expensive. The Project MC2 basic dolls are the same price as the articulated MH First Day of School dolls. While the Project MC2 dolls definitely have better outfits they aren't articulated and lack any extra accessories like a purse. I'd shudder to think what a Project MC2 doll that was priced in the $5-$10 range would look like. MGA doesn't even bother to go that cheap.I've noticed my Bratz from the 2000s have much better hair when compared to my MyScenes and Barbies from that era too, so there's that. Prototypes that are better than the final products happen with every toy company and most products. The exact same thing happens with Mattel, the only difference is they know how to actually hide their prototypes properly from the public, and I hate to say it but in recent years they've been very cost-effective and unambitious with the actual designs themselves too so there's also that factor on why the their final products seem to 'match' better with the leaked product images.
2010 MGA hair was not good yeah. Never owned any Bratz from that year or any of the 1st wave Bratzillaz but I did have Moxie Girlz and not only was their hair bad, their clothing was flimsy and poor quality too. Novi Stars don't have the best hair but I don't think their hair is particularly bad either.I honestly think the new Barbies are a great idea that was very badly executed. Seeing them both irl and in photos their quality and clothing designs are terrible, and the nearly all of them have really bland boring face screenings especially when compared to older Barbies. Monster High's quality just kept waning over the years. EAH's quality was never even good to begin with IMO. Even with the 'detailed' accessories of their earlier dolls they have also always used really cheap poor-quality fabrics with questionable designs right from the very start and have always had really bad problems of glue head and wonky eyes. I'm personally not a fan of their faces either. I have to agree with Taxel that they were just MH's 'ugly stepsister'.I don't know what happened exactly with Mattel financially but the quality of almost everything they've done recently has just been the worst IMO.(sorry mods if I'm getting off-topic or inappropriate)
ALthough the quality of Mattel's MH dolls has definitely taken a serious dive- I will admit that I did preorder the "Born this Way" Lady Gaga doll- and she just came this week! She looks super cute... hopefully she doesn't have glue head!