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Title: Just in time for Pride month, MLP FiM introduces same sex Pony couple! :D
Post by: heftysmurf76 on June 11, 2019, 11:11:27 PM
Hooray for inclusivity!!!

https://www.pride.com/tv/2019/6/11/my-little-pony-introducing-same-sex-couple-new-episode?v1&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tv&fbclid=IwAR0GCWIwMRr3nEnVLEKzHogLJS8c4t8cfv_rRdJPhC_kZQ5gjrU28sXBmis
Title: Re: Just in time for Pride month, MLP FiM introduces same sex Pony couple! :D
Post by: Nemesis on June 11, 2019, 11:16:13 PM
Yay! Always great to see more inclusiveness in shows aimed at kids. :) I’m proud to live in a day and age when we have come so far in terms of representation and widespread acceptance. 🏳️‍🌈

Things have improved a lot since I was a kid!
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Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on June 11, 2019, 11:40:13 PM
Awesome to see that her aunts will be in the show itself now! And also awesome to see them receive canon designs as a result, they're adorable! <3
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Post by: brightberry on June 12, 2019, 12:51:32 AM
Pretty cool!
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Post by: BlackCurtains on June 12, 2019, 01:02:48 AM
Always a great thing to see :D
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Post by: Goanna on June 12, 2019, 01:05:23 AM
They're so cute, I love them :heart:
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Post by: Tulips on June 12, 2019, 01:13:01 AM
Love this, can't wait to watch the new episode.
Since I don't read the books I didn't even know there was already a canon explanation for Scootaloo's parent/guardian situation.
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Post by: BethyVic on June 12, 2019, 02:43:34 AM
This is awesome!  I haven’t been keeping up with FiM but I would like to see this episode. 
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Post by: glitterball on June 12, 2019, 07:04:25 AM
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Post by: kingluke on June 12, 2019, 07:09:45 AM
I was so happy to see this! It's getting so normal now. Just think in like 20-30 years nobody will bat an eye at a gay cartoon couple anymore because it's normal and they have seen it before. Makes me excited.
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Post by: Minty_Magic on June 12, 2019, 08:38:48 AM
Oh how cute! :) This is the best possible outcome for Scootaloo's weird mystery family thing.
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Post by: cottoncandycafe on June 12, 2019, 11:03:03 AM
As a lesbian mlp fan, this makes me INCREDIBLY happy. I can't help but think of young gay kids watching this and feeling less alone in the world- i know it would have been a huge thing for me. representation matters so, so much!
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Post by: PrincessTiffy on June 12, 2019, 02:05:51 PM
So I’m confused, which couple is I guess the actual couple? The two pictures/designs are completely different. I personally love blue and yellow on ponies, but I think I like the color combinations in the second picture better. Not sure I like the first in which they both have yellow bodies lol.
Title: Re: Just in time for Pride month, MLP FiM introduces same sex Pony couple! :D
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on June 12, 2019, 02:25:41 PM
So I’m confused, which couple is I guess the actual couple? The two pictures/designs are completely different. I personally love blue and yellow on ponies, but I think I like the color combinations in the second picture better. Not sure I like the first in which they both have yellow bodies lol.

The one where they're both yellow. The image in the tweet is fanart that someone drew shortly after they were introduced in a book.
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Post by: Taffeta on June 12, 2019, 09:24:25 PM
So I’m confused, which couple is I guess the actual couple? The two pictures/designs are completely different. I personally love blue and yellow on ponies, but I think I like the color combinations in the second picture better. Not sure I like the first in which they both have yellow bodies lol.

The one where they're both yellow. The image in the tweet is fanart that someone drew shortly after they were introduced in a book.

So wait, they can do same sex but there's a problem with them being different colours???

...I'm gonna wait for the inevitable outrage chip that will probably kick off somewhere along the line :)

It is nice to see them not afraid to do this. I find it a bit sad though that it has to generate attention and becomes newsworthy because it stands out then as an exception or an unusual thing to do. And really it shouldn't be news because it's a normal thing in normal life and it should just be there without fanfare.

Maybe one day we'll get to the point where these things don't need to be signposted by the media as important because they'll just be accepted and so nobody will care.
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Post by: Kazzellin on June 13, 2019, 01:46:43 AM
But, but—Lyra and BonBon! Don’t they count? :( (Or is that more in the EQ world than the regular one?)

This should be a great episode! :D I really gotta get caught up with this series; I think I’m still in season 6, maybe 7. X(
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Post by: nebulavery on June 13, 2019, 02:11:08 AM
Stopped watching the series quite a few seasons ago, but tidbits like this make me want to start again!  :rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow:
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Post by: Maddie on June 13, 2019, 03:24:59 AM
How neat! I stopped watching ages ago, but my niece still watches he show. I’m sure her mom and dad will be thrilled.
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Post by: Harmonie on June 13, 2019, 03:46:28 AM
The Lyra and Bon Bon teases were really getting on my nerves (most blatantly showing up among other couples in the Valentine's Day episode from last season I think it was) but in advertising they were always called "Best Friends" Just gals being pals! YEAH RIGHT, HASBRO.

So, of course, I'm happy to see this! I hope that more children's media (including further MLP media) continues to normalize this, it's super important to show up in children's media... Coming from personal experience, a lot of us know we are LGBT at a very young age, but don't really know what our feelings are, and when what we are is absent from media, absent from everywhere, it is really disheartening. I felt so alone. No one should have to feel that way anymore!

Omitting it from children's media sends a message to children who both are LGBT and who are not LGBT, that it is something to be "othered" and let me tell you, that doesn't end well.
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Post by: Zapper on June 13, 2019, 09:38:05 AM
When they were introduced in the book there was much talk about how they could just be sisters, or people mad about Lyra/BonBon, because apparently there can only ever be ONE same-sex couple in anything... I'll make sure not to read too much about this on the internet :lookround:

Honestly, I am not too fond of the designs. But FiM loves its stereotypes. They kinda look a bit like a gay version of the Cakes to me: one is lanky and square and one is bubbly and pudgy.

I have seen the episode already, they are cute but...

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Ah, well.
It's sad how they put these two in now that they know the show is over. I hope they will at least return one more time.

PS: call me out of the loop but why is Pride an entire month now? :lol: Back when I paid attention to that and was like "ra ra ra I'm out and proud" it was only a week.
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Post by: PrincessTiffy on June 13, 2019, 01:51:51 PM
So I’m confused, which couple is I guess the actual couple? The two pictures/designs are completely different. I personally love blue and yellow on ponies, but I think I like the color combinations in the second picture better. Not sure I like the first in which they both have yellow bodies lol.

The one where they're both yellow. The image in the tweet is fanart that someone drew shortly after they were introduced in a book.

Ah ok, thank you. To bad, I personally like the fanart better.

Post Merge: June 13, 2019, 01:55:17 PM

When they were introduced in the book there was much talk about how they could just be sisters, or people mad about Lyra/BonBon, because apparently there can only ever be ONE same-sex couple in anything... I'll make sure not to read too much about this on the internet :lookround:

Honestly, I am not too fond of the designs. But FiM loves its stereotypes. They kinda look a bit like a gay version of the Cakes to me: one is lanky and square and one is bubbly and pudgy.

I have seen the episode already, they are cute but...

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Ah, well.
It's sad how they put these two in now that they know the show is over. I hope they will at least return one more time.

PS: call me out of the loop but why is Pride an entire month now? :lol: Back when I paid attention to that and was like "ra ra ra I'm out and proud" it was only a week.

Almost every celebration is now a whole month lol. And there’s pretty much a national day for everything and anything.
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Post by: Pinkie21 on June 13, 2019, 10:12:26 PM
That’s pretty cool!  Though I wish they didn’t make the Pegasus one of those weird-looking square ponies.
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Post by: dragonfly on June 13, 2019, 10:42:00 PM
wow!
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Post by: Al-1701 on June 14, 2019, 01:09:49 AM
Sadly, the outrage has started and the calls to boycott MLP over this are thundering in some circles.  Humanity depresses me.

Seriously, there are NINE living heterosexual couples on this show and at one presumed dead.  And Starlight and Trixie are clearly meant to be a two-way friendship that's completely platonic.  One same sex couple his hardly pushing an agenda.  I bet many kids know at least one same sex couple at some point in their relationship from starting to date to being married.

I really don't have any strong opinion.  As far as I'm concerned, I want to see the day where a same sex couple is in a show and it's just something with no needs to special fanfare.  I care about what the episode is actually about and how these characters are and the chemistry between them.
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Post by: lalalei2001 on June 14, 2019, 11:55:48 AM
Weren't Scootaloo's aunts in a book before this episode? I seem to remember reading about it a while ago.

It's great that they made the jump to TV ^^ Sad that they were very downplayed as a couple, though :(
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Post by: Pumpkin_Tart on June 18, 2019, 11:37:22 PM
I'm confused... How are they same sex couple? I just watched the episode and it just seemed that the aunts were just living together like many family members do but not as a couple... :wonder:
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Post by: SpacePinto on June 19, 2019, 12:23:55 AM
I'm confused... How are they same sex couple? I just watched the episode and it just seemed that the aunts were just living together like many family members do but not as a couple... :wonder:
Isn't it like one of those times when everyone claims how something happened on FIM but then it turns out it was actually just very subtly hinted at?
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Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on June 19, 2019, 12:56:30 AM
I'm confused... How are they same sex couple? I just watched the episode and it just seemed that the aunts were just living together like many family members do but not as a couple... :wonder:
I'm confused... How are they same sex couple? I just watched the episode and it just seemed that the aunts were just living together like many family members do but not as a couple... :wonder:
Isn't it like one of those times when everyone claims how something happened on FIM but then it turns out it was actually just very subtly hinted at?

They were previously introduced in a book, in the book Holiday kissed Lofty on the top of her head. One of the writers of this book series confirmed they were a couple on Twitter after it came out. These Tweets are embedded in the article posted in the OP. So yes they are a couple.
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Post by: Pumpkin_Tart on June 19, 2019, 01:11:36 AM
Oh ok that explains it! I had not read the book.  Thank you for the explanation!
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Post by: CactusBloom on June 19, 2019, 01:28:26 AM
I haven't seen the episode yet (or any of season 9) nor have I read the book that this couple debuted in, but I am so happy!

I have been wishing for a same-sex couple in MLP for so long, and figured it wouldn't happen. They probably saw that shows like Steven Universe and Arthur did it, so why shouldn't they?

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Post by: Zapper on June 19, 2019, 01:04:02 PM
As far as I'm concerned, I want to see the day where a same sex couple is in a show and it's just something with no needs to special fanfare. 

You may check out The Loud House. There is a gay dad couple that is also interracial. They raise the protagonist's best friend. One of the sisters of the protag also has an episode dedicated to her where everybody assumes she is in love with a guy but it's a girl and in the end it is no big deal.

There are also a couple of Cartoon Network shows that had/have gay couples in minor roles. Over 10 years ago there was the Nick show Braceface where a recurring character was having a boyfriend and nobody minded.

I think we need actual romance to be shown between same-sex characters. Just showing them and implying something isn't equal treatment. It would have been nice if the kiss from the book was in the show. Now it looks like Hasbro wanted rainbow cookies for doing the least. And us people who are same-sex attracted need to stop being thankful and teary eyed because of it. It's like Korra and Asami holding hands by the end of the show when all throughout they were romancing dudes.

Like I said, as a kid in the 90s I was aware that Sailor Mercury and Uranus were lesbians. Because kids get social cues like looking longingly at each other, holding hands, hugging someone's back and especially the pink cherry petals that came flying when they appeared together :lol:
Not saying MLP needs this but they show cartoon hearts in eyes and crap. Crysalis had more love thrown her way by other characters than was visible between Lofty and Holiday :P
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Post by: Galactica on June 19, 2019, 04:27:33 PM
Not exactly a super obvious same sex couple.

Hell even Arthur did a better job.  Only a half a cookie for you Hasbro, you weenies.
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Post by: Zapper on June 19, 2019, 07:19:04 PM
Not exactly a super obvious same sex couple.

Right? And Disney Channel is about to air their live-action show about 4 gay dads.

Apparently gay ponies are too difficult to portray *cough* Rainbow Dash looks like a walking Pride flag *cough*
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Post by: lalalei2001 on June 19, 2019, 07:50:17 PM
G3 hinted at a couple with Star Flight and Heart Bright. They were "as close as two ponies could be" and did absolutely everything together, including sleeping in the same bed, drinking from the same smoothie, and dreaming the same dreams.

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Post by: Wardah on June 19, 2019, 08:34:05 PM
Like I said, as a kid in the 90s I was aware that Sailor Mercury and Uranus were lesbians. Because kids get social cues like looking longingly at each other, holding hands, hugging someone's back and especially the pink cherry petals that came flying when they appeared together :lol:
Not saying MLP needs this but they show cartoon hearts in eyes and crap. Crysalis had more love thrown her way by other characters than was visible between Lofty and Holiday :P

It was Neptune and Uranus that were the lesbians.
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Post by: Galactica on June 19, 2019, 11:46:44 PM
Not exactly a super obvious same sex couple.

Right? And Disney Channel is about to air their live-action show about 4 gay dads.

Apparently gay ponies are too difficult to portray *cough* Rainbow Dash looks like a walking Pride flag *cough*

Right, I always thought RD was kind of an obnoxious sporty lesbian.  It would have been so easy Hasbro, seriously.

At least have the couple look at each other and blush or hearts or SOMETHING.

Yes, something like Haruka and Michiru-  (although for that example I was always so baffled and annoyed that the US version tried to make them cousins or something? Ridiculous. The first time I saw that couple- I could not believe it. They were so obviously a couple. A very romantic couple. They said some pretty bold stuff!

Look at this fun quotes museum that collected all of the relationship quotes all together-  and this was 1995!!!!
http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/oceanwinds/Quotes.html


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Post by: Zapper on June 20, 2019, 03:13:30 PM
Like I said, as a kid in the 90s I was aware that Sailor Mercury and Uranus were lesbians. Because kids get social cues like looking longingly at each other, holding hands, hugging someone's back and especially the pink cherry petals that came flying when they appeared together :lol:
Not saying MLP needs this but they show cartoon hearts in eyes and crap. Crysalis had more love thrown her way by other characters than was visible between Lofty and Holiday :P

It was Neptune and Uranus that were the lesbians.

It was obviously a typo. In my previous post I said Haruka and Michiru so I know who I'm talking about :rolleyes: I just got the names of the water senshi mixed up.

Not exactly a super obvious same sex couple.

Right? And Disney Channel is about to air their live-action show about 4 gay dads.

Apparently gay ponies are too difficult to portray *cough* Rainbow Dash looks like a walking Pride flag *cough*

Right, I always thought RD was kind of an obnoxious sporty lesbian.  It would have been so easy Hasbro, seriously.

At least have the couple look at each other and blush or hearts or SOMETHING.

Yes, something like Haruka and Michiru-  (although for that example I was always so baffled and annoyed that the US version tried to make them cousins or something? Ridiculous. The first time I saw that couple- I could not believe it. They were so obviously a couple. A very romantic couple. They said some pretty bold stuff!

Look at this fun quotes museum that collected all of the relationship quotes all together-  and this was 1995!!!!
http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/oceanwinds/Quotes.html

I am so forever glad the German dub did not do this. Even though sadly cousin marriage was/is still legal and we only got same-sex marriage in 2017 :lookround:

The German dub even had some interesting choices regarding Rai. Some translations heavily implied that she was bi while in the original it was very subtle. Starting with season 2 the German dub became excellent. We don't talk about season 1 because it was done by a different studio and they made Zoisite a woman...
But in general the US dub was horribly censored in so many areas, I honestly feel bad for any kid having to watch that. It's good they made a new one.
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Post by: Galactica on June 20, 2019, 05:01:34 PM
Like I said, as a kid in the 90s I was aware that Sailor Mercury and Uranus were lesbians. Because kids get social cues like looking longingly at each other, holding hands, hugging someone's back and especially the pink cherry petals that came flying when they appeared together :lol:
Not saying MLP needs this but they show cartoon hearts in eyes and crap. Crysalis had more love thrown her way by other characters than was visible between Lofty and Holiday :P

It was Neptune and Uranus that were the lesbians.

It was obviously a typo. In my previous post I said Haruka and Michiru so I know who I'm talking about :rolleyes: I just got the names of the water senshi mixed up.

Not exactly a super obvious same sex couple.

Right? And Disney Channel is about to air their live-action show about 4 gay dads.

Apparently gay ponies are too difficult to portray *cough* Rainbow Dash looks like a walking Pride flag *cough*

Right, I always thought RD was kind of an obnoxious sporty lesbian.  It would have been so easy Hasbro, seriously.

At least have the couple look at each other and blush or hearts or SOMETHING.

Yes, something like Haruka and Michiru-  (although for that example I was always so baffled and annoyed that the US version tried to make them cousins or something? Ridiculous. The first time I saw that couple- I could not believe it. They were so obviously a couple. A very romantic couple. They said some pretty bold stuff!

Look at this fun quotes museum that collected all of the relationship quotes all together-  and this was 1995!!!!
http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/oceanwinds/Quotes.html

I am so forever glad the German dub did not do this. Even though sadly cousin marriage was/is still legal and we only got same-sex marriage in 2017 :lookround:

The German dub even had some interesting choices regarding Rai. Some translations heavily implied that she was bi while in the original it was very subtle. Starting with season 2 the German dub became excellent. We don't talk about season 1 because it was done by a different studio and they made Zoisite a woman...
But in general the US dub was horribly censored in so many areas, I honestly feel bad for any kid having to watch that. It's good they made a new one.

Yes the censorship on the US cartoon was shocking-

Fortunately in 1996 I fell in with a group of anime nerds who feverishly collected and traded fan-dubbed cartoons- the quality was horrible but I did eventually get to see the original episodes of sailor moon as aired in Japan   

Ah, the late 90s. When the Anime Expo consisted of about 200 fans and vendors, haha ...
Title: Re: Just in time for Pride month, MLP FiM introduces same sex Pony couple! :D
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on June 20, 2019, 05:22:12 PM
Could we have a MLP Arena photo competition for same sex couples? I don't have Tornado unfortunately otherwise I'd totally do Tex and Tornado in a Brokeback Mountain setting. Or Shady and Tootie Tails in some kind of 1980s poolside montage. I guess people's Ponyverses might clash though :huh:

Edit: apparently there are no cacti in Brokeback Mountain. I should really watch it.
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Post by: Dragonflitter on July 05, 2019, 05:17:58 AM
I really enjoyed this episode for a lot of reasons! Although I kinda wish Scootaloo HAD moved away from Ponyville because I think it's a really important lesson kids need to learn... how sometimes you have to say goodbye to friends and it sucks but you can make the best of it. And the CMC could have still kept in touch in other ways... But anyway, that's a tangent.

I loved the two aunts! I think it's kinda funny that FiM was known for being a landmark show that pushed boundaries, but it took this long for them to have a really confirmed gay couple and other shows like She-Ra, The Dragon Prince, Legend of Korra, Arthur, Steven Universe, Loud Family, etc. were more proactive before they were, in this regard.

Yeah there wasn't a LOT of obvious hints that they were a couple, but if two adult females are living together and you refer to both of them as your 'aunties'? Yeah, they are gay. There's not really much ambiguity there. Yes the show could have been more blatant, but I'm not going to claim the writers were trying to slide it in and have it be a situation where they could or could not be a couple, just to get props from the LGBT+ community. If you call two grown women who live together your aunts, unless it's stated that they are sisters, that's pretty clear.

(Also horray for them sliding in a G1 name with Auntie Lofty!)

It's funny... back in 2012 (I think? It was during season two) I was in a Hot Topic (and very embarrassed because all the workers were younger than me but I just wanted MLP merch!). And as I was cashing out, the cashier saw all my pony items and gushed, "I am SO GLAD they have a kids cartoon with openly gay characters now!"

I was very shy back then (even more than I am now LOL) and it was all I could do to smile and nod and grab my receipt and run away. To this day, I have no idea what she was referring to. Rainbow Dash? Lyra and Bonbon? Who knows! I don't think any of the characters in season 2 could be considered "openly gay." I think she was just projecting her wants onto the characters of the show.

But now, seven years later, we have a real confirmed gay couple in MLP FiM. :) I'm glad. I wonder if that cashier is still watching, and what she thinks of FiM now. lol.

G3 hinted at a couple with Star Flight and Heart Bright. They were "as close as two ponies could be" and did absolutely everything together, including sleeping in the same bed, drinking from the same smoothie, and dreaming the same dreams.

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Omg I never made that connection before but heck yeah! Eating from the same dessert and sleeping in the same bed? These two are totally gay! XD
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Post by: Ribbs on July 05, 2019, 08:06:32 AM
Aww, hooray for representation! I love this.