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Title: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: Mami Tomoe on April 09, 2019, 11:35:41 PM
Is it true scribble and dabble were going to have more ponies in the set but never released and if so do you have pictures
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: BlushingBlue on April 10, 2019, 12:24:38 AM
I don't have any pictures, but I can confirm that Pretty Mane ponies were once conceived as a set of six. :) I don't think any actual prototypes exist, but the art for the backcard survived and was used as the basis for the HQG1C Artistry Girls (https://clipper.ecrater.com/c/2177800/artistry-girls).
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: allymer on April 10, 2019, 06:21:19 AM
Is it true scribble and dabble were going to have more ponies in the set but never released and if so do you have pictures

never ever heard of that in the 15 past years so im going with hoax... some "true" to that can be in artwork form or stuff like that from set around that time but not for those 2 if im correct
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: Mermaid on April 10, 2019, 06:39:45 AM
I do not think it’s a hoax. The original designer for Scribbles and Dabble had the artwork for the original set that they designed. How far into production that set got is a mystery, but the original concept was for six ponies.
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: skig on April 11, 2019, 01:42:55 AM
I do not think it’s a hoax. The original designer for Scribbles and Dabble had the artwork for the original set that they designed. How far into production that set got is a mystery, but the original concept was for six ponies.
Agreed. There's concept art.
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Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: BlushingBlue on April 11, 2019, 01:53:50 AM
Clipper also had cute throw pillows made with the same art :biggrin:

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Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 11, 2019, 02:05:27 AM
It's not a hoax.  I believe the info originally came to light at Pony Fair when Ruth Bush (former Hasbro designer) brought some concept art with her.  :)   Some of the art was unused pony concepts or sets.  Other art was of ponies that were put into production, but not necessarily as they were originally conceptualized. 

For example, the Summer Wing molds were originally intended to be used as baby flutter ponies.
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 11, 2019, 06:13:46 AM
This is the first I've heard of the Pretty Mane Ponies being intended as a set of six, but then I haven't focused a whole lot on that set. It doesn't surprise me, though - after all, sets of six was the norm!

For example, the Summer Wing molds were originally intended to be used as baby flutter ponies.
Well that's completely adorable!
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: banditpony on April 11, 2019, 09:12:50 AM
It's a shame no one has the artwork without a giant watermark. :/
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: Lilja on April 11, 2019, 04:54:19 PM
A lot of this knowledge has come to light recently, due to original Hasbro designers/artists participating at conventions and the like. So having been in the community for a long time has nothing to do with it. There's still so much that went on behind the scenes at Hasbro that we don't know about, but I hope we'll continue to learn more. (Really hoping the upcoming MLP episode of The Toys That Made Us will reveal something exciting)

For example, the Summer Wing molds were originally intended to be used as baby flutter ponies.

Kinda wish HQG1C would do something with this. Bring back the baby flutter concept! But don't know if many people would be interested.
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: Ponyfan on April 11, 2019, 07:38:12 PM
I've never seen the artwork for these before. :lovey: Does anyone know it they were planned to be a store release and then when it was decided to only make the pair Hasbro changed them to mail order? The art looks so detailed and although it might have been intended for a mail order pamphlet it reminds me of back card art.


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Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: skig on April 11, 2019, 08:21:00 PM
It's a shame no one has the artwork without a giant watermark. :/
I looked. Couldn't find anything.  :(
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: PinkRosedust on April 11, 2019, 08:21:19 PM
These are so cool! Ugh I would adore this set. I might have to start getting into the HQG1C stuff. Pity they never made it to production back in the day though. Seeing G1s that were designed but never made into real toys is so bittersweet! Does anyone have a better photo of the artwork?
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 11, 2019, 08:37:49 PM
To me they do feel like they were intended to be a store set because usually Hasbro took photos of mail order ponies instead of doing an illustration / art.  (I mean, sometimes they will illustrate one or two ponies from a set for the front of a brochure but usually not all of them if that makes sense.)

That's just a guess on my part though.
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: Carrehz on April 11, 2019, 08:50:26 PM
The art we've seen definitely feels more like backcard art to me. The way it's laid out and everything.. I can definitely see a backcard story on there. Plus like LadyM pointed out, a lot of mail orders didn't have art.

I wish we could see the art without the watermark, too.

For example, the Summer Wing molds were originally intended to be used as baby flutter ponies.

Kinda wish HQG1C would do something with this. Bring back the baby flutter concept! But don't know if many people would be interested.

I'd be interested!
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: BlushingBlue on April 11, 2019, 09:11:18 PM
It's a shame no one has the artwork without a giant watermark. :/

Clipper does, but you'll probably have to slip him a tenner to get a peek. :lol: Seriously though, I'm sure someone somewhere has a better copy of the image. Several people made customs of them when they were first revealed, so they might still have a scan as reference. (Why does 2016 seem like a hundred years ago...?)

I also feel like it is supposed to be backcard art for a store release. The way that it is cropped for the notebook/pillow doesn't show it, but in the original image there's a lot of "empty" space at the top and bottom where the logo and story and UPC etc would logically go.
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: Mermaid on April 12, 2019, 02:59:51 AM
I dont think there’s one without the watermark, as the artwork is sold to help support Allison who was an original g1 box art illustrator. This artist worked on G1 and G2 ponies  from 1988-1998. Clipper has unveiled to us several other unproduced concept sets such as the fancy swirls (formly known as celestial ponies), and  “date night” (actual set name unknown) concepts. 

All art that Clipper sells is water marked, so we can continue to support the original artists, all proceeds go to the original artist such as Allison and Ruth.
Title: Re: Scribbles and Dabble prototype set
Post by: banditpony on April 12, 2019, 05:48:27 PM
I dont think there’s one without the watermark, as the artwork is sold to help support Allison who was an original g1 box art illustrator. This artist worked on G1 and G2 ponies  from 1988-1998. Clipper has unveiled to us several other unproduced concept sets such as the fancy swirls (formly known as celestial ponies), and  “date night” (actual set name unknown) concepts. 

All art that Clipper sells is water marked, so we can continue to support the original artists, all proceeds go to the original artist such as Allison and Ruth.

Is it brand new artwork created by that artist? (because otherwise, if it's old artwork, it would be property of Hasbro? (Unless there was some agreement otherwise between Hasbro and the original artist. It tends to be written in the language for contracts and hire agreements)).

If it's original, then I get your statement. If it's Hasbro's then I think it'd be cool to share the history.