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Title: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: nightmare muffin on May 30, 2018, 12:34:02 AM
Rather than talking too much and making a fool of myself, I'll simply ask a straightfoward question to anyone who desires to answer: what are some of your pony headcanons and theories? (all generations accepted)
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Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 01, 2018, 12:18:55 AM
Hm..
For G1:
* Majesty exists in the world of the original cartoon series, but during the series' events she's away on a long-term mission of some kind
* The Year 5 Princess Ponies are Majesty's daughters
* Rosedust and Honeysuckle are a couple
* Scoops and Lickety-Split are a couple
* The magic mirror from the UK comic exists in the cartoon universe too, since we do after all have the quasi-clone babies there too.
* Megan and her siblings ultimately move to Ponyland.

G3:
* The G3 cartoon takes place in a world where Ponykind at long last managed to vanquish everything out to destroy the world/take over the world/enslave them in ages past, though the population took something of a hit and the pony kinds were scattered and separated.
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Carrehz on June 01, 2018, 12:34:30 AM
off the top of my head.. mostly pertaining to the G1 cartoon..

- Knight Shade is half Grayvale pony and half Little Pony/Dream Valley pony
- Capper is a (distant?) descendant of Catrina's (and Rep's probably) (probably doesn't make sense - I haven't seen the G4 movie so idk - but it amuses me)
- The Big Brothers set off on their trip around the world just prior to the movie; Buttons is on edge due to missing Slugger/worrying about him, thus why she snaps at Baby Lickety-Split after the failed recital
- A headcanon shared w/ a pal of mine: G1 Teddy is G4 Snips' older brother, and their dad is Barber Groomsby (http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Barber_Groomsby). Baby Squirmy is Snails' little sister (and Allie Way is either his older sister or his mum, can't decide which one I like better).
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Ponyfan on June 01, 2018, 02:16:51 AM
I love the idea of Capper being a descent of Catrina. :)

-The G1 fancy mermaid babies are the last of their kind and the adult sea ponies have taken them in and take care of them

-Megan makes more visits to Ponyland than we see in the cartoons and movies. That's why she has the Rainbow of Light at the begining of the movie even though we saw her give it to Baby Moondancer at the end of Catrina.


-There are more creatures living in Dream Valley than we've seen in the cartoons and comics


-When Bray says that the Moochick and baby ponies were captured in "Return to Tambleon" they were captured and on their way to the city when it dissappeared


-Applejack is brave and always ready to rescue a friend when she thinks they're in trouble but her tendency to not think things through before she acts often leads to Applejack needing rescuing herself.



-Even though we never saw The Prince/Scorpan again, he either made return visits to the ponies or Spike went back to visit him sometimes. Scopran's kingdom was devasted by Tirac's power and Scorpan decided to let Spike stay with the ponies until the kindgom was rebuilt.


-Sunburst is royal advisor to Shining Armor and Princess Cadance 


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on June 01, 2018, 05:37:57 AM
The pearlized baby ponies (the mail order set of Baby Glory, Baby Surprise, etc) are alternate universe versions of the 'regular' baby ponies.

Teddy and Sweetheart married just after high school, made each other miserable for a few years, then had a messy divorce.  Teddy is currently in jail for assaulting the pony who came to repossess his car.
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Zapper on June 01, 2018, 10:20:59 AM
FiM is not real. AJ actually bumped her head when she fell off the bridge in RaMC and entered into a long coma.
That's why she didn't age when she appears again three gens later in G4. The end of FiM will reveal this massive plot twist. I am a 100% sure this will happen :lol:
Spike shares her coma due to unicorn magic inception, trying to wake her up. But he gets lost in AJ's dream.
Season 9 ends with both of them waking up and being back in Ponyville hospital.
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: brightberry on June 01, 2018, 10:53:55 PM
As a kid, just after seeing RAMC, I kind of put this together: 

The ponies used to live outdoors and very close to nature, friends with the sun & clouds and roaming free just like wild horses.  But the "stratadons" started hunting them and they were forced to migrate to safer territory.  A few of them eventually find an empty castle and take refuge there, believing they were finally safe.  After they defeat Tirac, Scorpan turns into a prince and gives them his castle out of gratitude.  More ponies slowly started showing up.

I really haven't changed my head cannon since then.  But I suppose  that after living in a castle, the ponies decided to keep building and eventually worked up to creating cities and countries.    :shrug:

It's not very original, but I still kind of love the idea of ponies running wild. 
 :frolic: :frolic: :frolic:
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Ariana on June 02, 2018, 12:12:13 AM
I have a ton of headcanons actually:

For G1:

G1 and G4 are directly related. Majesty is a male, and him and Queen Tiffany (yes, by right SHE should be queen!) have Celestia and Luna as their children
The other princesses guard over the earth, unicorn, and pegasi herds.

G3:

They come BEFORE G1 actually, as they use herds of ponies to raise the sun and moon. The Sun Brigade is lead by Queen Lily Lightly and the Moon Brigade is lead by King Star Catcher, and run by other sun and moon themed ponies.

Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: ringwraith10 on June 02, 2018, 12:49:08 AM
Teddy and Sweetheart married just after high school, made each other miserable for a few years, then had a messy divorce.  Teddy is currently in jail for assaulting the pony who came to repossess his car.
Lol, this is exactly how it happens. I can confirm.
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: poniesthatsparkle on June 02, 2018, 02:07:24 AM
I ship TAF Sweet Tooth and Yum Yum.

Scented ponies are just wearing perfume.

Baby ponies are simply clones of their mothers.

Ponies that I have two of are twins (I'm a twin myself so of course I want more pony twins!)

Moondancer and Glory are sisters

Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 02, 2018, 03:38:30 AM
More on G1:
* Ponykind came up with magical means of reproduction as a response to the seemingly-endless perils they faced - gave the foals a better chance of survival.
* While the quasi-clone babies like Baby Surprise, Baby Lickety-Split, Baby Shady, etc. are born via the mirror, the more distinct-looking babies like the Newborn Twins are conventionally conceived. I mean, come on - what serial preceded the episodes where they first appeared and were featured? Somnambula, featuring the Big Brother Ponies.
* Megan brought pony medical knowledge back to Earth and adapted it to advance veterinary medicine
* Ponyland was able to develop more after in the years after the events of the cartoon because with so many threats vanquished and their defenses stronger (Megan with the Rainbow of Light, the alliance with the Flutter Ponies, the Princess Ponies reclaiming the Heart of Ponyland, etc), they actually had the breathing space to build more towns and infrastructure. Which made Steamer and 4-speed very happy.
* Baby Ponies named after their mothers are called (name) Jr. or (name) II when they grow up because it sounds less awkward. Babies with unique names just drop the "Baby"
* Glory is a fan of the Jet Set Radio games

Here are a couple universal ones:
* The different generations exist in alternate universes.
* The various Twilights are getting really sick of the vampire jokes. :P
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: nightmare muffin on June 02, 2018, 06:28:52 AM
some g2 theories (since no one's done any yet)

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Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Carrehz on June 02, 2018, 09:52:38 AM
-Even though we never saw The Prince/Scorpan again, he either made return visits to the ponies or Spike went back to visit him sometimes. Scopran's kingdom was devasted by Tirac's power and Scorpan decided to let Spike stay with the ponies until the kindgom was rebuilt.

Ooh, I like this one! I like Brightberry's headcanon, too :)

* The various Twilights are getting really sick of the vampire jokes. :P

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Zapper on June 02, 2018, 03:30:24 PM
G3 is a female utopia similar to the island of Themyscira. There are no males so the baby ponies are produced via G1magic mirror technique.

Santa is the only male they know so they assume all males look red, fat and have a white beard. They teach this concept in pony elementary school :lol:
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 02, 2018, 04:01:30 PM
Baby Paws is Fifi's son.

Baby Ember, Knightshade and his mother are half Dream Valley and half Bright Valley.

Beezen is a magical, corrupt and greedy wizard who deals in real estate.

Wingers, Breezies and Changelings are classified in the same group as Flutters.  Similar to how zebras, horses and donkeys are all equines, but only produce sterile offspring for example.

Sea ponies leave their babies in areas where there are no large predators and they join back with the rest of the adults  once they can swim properly and are fully grown.

Tales and G3 are a prosperous time period where educational, artistical and leisure are pursued over constant survival.

That ponies from Tales onward secluded themselves via magical barrier, from the rest of the world, the rainbow magically disappeared and that's why they had so little contact with the outside world and why we no longer see many of the species we used to.


Its also why places like the Everfree and such confuse and frighten them. They are rediscovering the world they'd forgotten ever existed. Its not some cursed place with weather, plant and animal control. It would be the equivalent of an animal raised in captivity and finding itself released back in the wild.


That sea and merponies are aquatic monotremes.


Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Zapper on June 02, 2018, 05:50:56 PM
Sparkler is G4 Rarity's real mother. She gave her up for adoption to pursue a career in a speciesist field, that's why none of Rarity's family members share her love for geology and look unfashionable.

Once a month Rarity received a check in the mail from a secret sponsor Hunger Games style. It was from Sparkler out of guilt and love for her lost daughter. Rarity used the money to fund her first boutique.

Sparkler had a new daughter who loves to shop at Rarity For You. Little does she know she is the owner's half-sister *dramatic music*
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Ponyfan on June 02, 2018, 10:15:50 PM
-Even though we never saw The Prince/Scorpan again, he either made return visits to the ponies or Spike went back to visit him sometimes. Scopran's kingdom was devasted by Tirac's power and Scorpan decided to let Spike stay with the ponies until the kindgom was rebuilt.

Ooh, I like this one! I like Brightberry's headcanon, too :)



Thank you. :)  They seem to be too good of friends in Rescue at Midnight Castle for Scorpan and Spike to never see each other again. 



Sea ponies leave their babies in areas where there are no large predators and they join back with the rest of the adults  once they can swim properly and are fully grown.

Tales and G3 are a prosperous time period where educational, artistical and leisure are pursued over constant survival.




I really like these Leave a Whisper. :)


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on June 03, 2018, 01:28:49 AM
Sparkler is G4 Rarity's real mother. She gave her up for adoption to pursue a career in a speciesist field, that's why none of Rarity's family members share her love for geology and look unfashionable.

Once a month Rarity received a check in the mail from a secret sponsor Hunger Games style. It was from Sparkler out of guilt and love for her lost daughter. Rarity used the money to fund her first boutique.

Sparkler had a new daughter who loves to shop at Rarity For You. Little does she know she is the owner's half-sister *dramatic music*

Oh wow, I love this.

I headcanon that baby ponies get to choose their own names when they reach a certain age, so that no one is stuck being "Snookums" or "Tattles" as an adult, lol.
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Zapper on June 03, 2018, 10:21:04 AM
I love coming up with these soap opera headcanons but I do nothing with it, so if someone wants to write a fanfic about it please be my guest. I'd love to read it  :) Especially the Rarity one.

I based it all on the Diamond Mint toy so that would be Rarity's half-sister.
Sparkler had to work with Rock Dogs all her life but eventually had enough money to move to Manehattan and start a new life where she met a nice stallion who was also interested in gems (Ice Crystal) and together they had Diamond Mint. Sparkler retired as a jeweler and Diamond Mint inherited the business and supplies Rarity with gems from time to time.
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Carrehz on June 03, 2018, 01:11:07 PM
I looove that Rarity headcanon, Zapper!!

Baby Ember, Knightshade and his mother are half Dream Valley and half Bright Valley.

ooooh I hadn't considered Ember being a hybrid too :O I like it!!
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Olympus on June 05, 2018, 11:15:06 PM
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: nightmare muffin on June 07, 2018, 05:20:42 PM
Sparkler is G4 Rarity's real mother. She gave her up for adoption to pursue a career in a speciesist field, that's why none of Rarity's family members share her love for geology and look unfashionable.

Once a month Rarity received a check in the mail from a secret sponsor Hunger Games style. It was from Sparkler out of guilt and love for her lost daughter. Rarity used the money to fund her first boutique.

Sparkler had a new daughter who loves to shop at Rarity For You. Little does she know she is the owner's half-sister *dramatic music*
that's a fanfic in the making, right there. ;)
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Esbayne on June 08, 2018, 02:26:59 AM
I like to think all the gens co-exist, but don't know it (except in my collection. :P ) This map (by Sunset80 on DeviantArt- I'm not sure if her Arena name is the same or different) is my headcanon map. The reason all the gens look different is that they are just different "races" of ponies from around the world. That also, to me, explains why there are similarities, differences, and similar breeds across all the gens- they're all just in different parts of the world rather than the generations taking place in a linear timeline, so there's bound to be similarities and differences everywhere.
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I like the idea that those G4 Arabians are Dream Beauties. Maybe some of them migrated over to the G4 lands many years ago? Same goes for the rest of the breeds that carry across gens!

Also it's bizarre that some baby ponies come from the magic mirror, and some seem to be actually erm, born, so I headcanon that most of the pony babies are naturally born, and that's how you get a new pony altogether- the mirror just kind of replicates the pony as a baby version.

I also like to headcanon that Pretty Kitties live among the ponies and are essentially just like Pony Friends. (They'd be good friends with Kingsly! :P )
This kinda ties in with that- I also totally agree with what others have said here, there are probably tons of different monsters and creatures that live alongside ponies in their world- we've only seen a few. Their world seems relatively unexplored and mystical, home to many different kinds of fantasy creatures, along with ponies. Ponies are just the most prominent population, like humans. (but better. XD )
(This is kinda how I shoe-horn my fantasy dolls into being able to have something to do with the ponies. They're all fantasy creatures so I like to think they live in the same lands, but don't really know about the ponies or what they call the lands, so they have different names for them. I guess like how in English we call other countries by entirely different names than what they call themselves. Monster High Neighthan is the only one who knows about the ponies and is able to find their little civilizations, because of unicorn magic or whatever, he's a zombie-unicorn hybrid. I'm sure he'd probably actually terrify them) So really, you could kinda insert most other toys/creatures into the pony world and it kinda works.



Personal collection headcanons, because this will be longish
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Zapper, I also really love your Rarity headcanons!! <3
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 08, 2018, 02:42:19 AM
I like to think all the gens co-exist, but don't know it (except in my collection. :P ) This map (by Sunset80 on DeviantArt- I'm not sure if her Arena name is the same or different) is my headcanon map. The reason all the gens look different is that they are just different "races" of ponies from around the world. That also, to me, explains why there are similarities, differences, and similar breeds across all the gens- they're all just in different parts of the world rather than the generations taking place in a linear timeline, so there's bound to be similarities and differences everywhere.
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I like the idea that those G4 Arabians are Dream Beauties. Maybe some of them migrated over to the G4 lands many years ago? Same goes for the rest of the breeds that carry across gens!

Also it's bizarre that some baby ponies come from the magic mirror, and some seem to be actually erm, born, so I headcanon that most of the pony babies are naturally born, and that's how you get a new pony altogether- the mirror just kind of replicates the pony as a baby version.

I also like to headcanon that Pretty Kitties live among the ponies and are essentially just like Pony Friends. (They'd be good friends with Kingsly! :P )
This kinda ties in with that- I also totally agree with what others have said here, there are probably tons of different monsters and creatures that live alongside ponies in their world- we've only seen a few. Their world seems relatively unexplored and mystical, home to many different kinds of fantasy creatures, along with ponies. Ponies are just the most prominent population, like humans. (but better. XD )
(This is kinda how I shoe-horn my fantasy dolls into being able to have something to do with the ponies. They're all fantasy creatures so I like to think they live in the same lands, but don't really know about the ponies or what they call the lands, so they have different names for them. I guess like how in English we call other countries by entirely different names than what they call themselves. Monster High Neighthan is the only one who knows about the ponies and is able to find their little civilizations, because of unicorn magic or whatever, he's a zombie-unicorn hybrid. I'm sure he'd probably actually terrify them) So really, you could kinda insert most other toys/creatures into the pony world and it kinda works.



Personal collection headcanons, because this will be longish
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

Zapper, I also really love your Rarity headcanons!! <3

Makes lotsa sense to me Esbayne.
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 08, 2018, 01:47:04 PM
I tend to treat each series as its own universe, due to differences in established info about the settings and how they work, as well as different interpretations of recycled characters (Big example: G1 Tirac vs the G4 version. Different abilities, method, and goals, also different fates. And the accompanying differences regarding each version of Scorpan).

Here's one I came up with last night while working on a checklist:
"Pony Bride"'s proper name is Wedding Dove. Also, she and the other "wedding" ponies aren't necessarily brides themselves, but rather wedding wear models or bridal coaches.

And here's a silly one:
Bubble Muffin was originally a mail carrier in the G1 universe. But she moved to the G4 universe to reduce stress after the sheer amount of shared names in G1 drove her crosseyed. :P
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 11, 2018, 01:22:12 PM
Finally remembered one I keep forgetting: Ember has the ability to change her coat and mane color, and discovered this after the events of RAMC
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Carrehz on June 11, 2018, 04:46:44 PM
Finally remembered one I keep forgetting: Ember has the ability to change her coat and mane color, and discovered this after the events of RAMC

Hehe, I like this one :D
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on June 12, 2018, 08:47:58 AM
Finally remembered one I keep forgetting: Ember has the ability to change her coat and mane color, and discovered this after the events of RAMC

Oh, I really like that!

I was just contemplating the headcanon that Ember grows up to become Princess Celestia.  Aunicorn can become an alicorn, so why not an earth pony?  And she has a fire / heat related name that would fit the sun theme.  She grew up to be her own special little pony.
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Luxrayx on June 20, 2018, 12:07:05 PM
FiM headcanon: The magic of friendship can be used by anyone, not just the elements of harmony. Which means that if a close-knit group of evil ponies decided to attack Equestria, the mane 6 wouldn't be able to simply friendship magic their way out of it.
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 20, 2018, 01:49:35 PM
  • The flocked ponies that we see are just them in their 'Summer' coats. When winter rolls around, they look like giant puff balls with hooves.
  • There are no Crystal Unicorns because of Sombra um... 'banishing' them early on in his reign. Don't want a rebel group of magic users rising up against you if you're a tyrannical king, now, would you?
  • Tempest Shadow becomes the first official member of Twilight's Royal Guard after the events of the MLP Movie.

So kinda like Bashkir Curlies?
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: CinnamonOnions on June 20, 2018, 08:00:13 PM
I don't have any proper headcanons as I'm not into the MLP cartoons, but I do like making up stuff for my herd. One day I'll probably decide personalities for them too. :D The most important thing that I have decided is that North Star and Confetti are a couple (I never keep them on separated shelves!) and baby North Star is their filly. Baby Glory and Baby Surprise are good friends and play together a lot. I also consider ponies that came to me from the same collections as friends. I prefer thinking nirvanas as separate identities from the ponies they're based on and call them by their local names - I could never call Polly or Azul "Snuzzle and Blue Belle" anymore.
 Also here's some starts for those personality headcanons:
 Confetti is actualy a bit shy and quiet, also really into colours and the nature. She has a huge collection of differently colored plastic dishes. North Star I imagine as a slightly larger mare that's brave and very tomboyish, she has the manners of a true gentleman. She'd have unusualy deep voice. Azul Celeste is a bit difficult for other ponies to understand and very sassy, her sense of humour is a bit wicked. Star Hopper tries to desperately befriend and understand the small and strange Azul. Half Note twins (I have two Half Notes) are the loud neighbours that play old rock music on full volume at the wrong time of clock, Sand Digger has to deal living with them. Tex is the show off, trying to get all the mares to like him. Tickle is wiser and older than most other ponies, but stays playful despite her age. No-one really knows where Tootsie came from, or since when has she been living with Tulip - she sort of just appeared to the pony village one day.
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on June 20, 2018, 08:09:36 PM
All generations are alternate realities playing out at the same time with an occassional rift in the energy walls separating them, causing a blending of elements. That's why we have a pretty parlor in G1 and G2, for example.
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: BlushingBlue on June 21, 2018, 12:24:41 AM
The pearlized G1 babies are the ones that were made by Majesty's unholy enchanted mirror. Hence why they're shimmery, dead-eyed, and sometimes slightly "off" from their moms like how Surprise is yellow, Moondreamer has a different name, etc. Turns out, an ancient mirror in a dark room isn't that great at making perfect copies.

"Regular" P&C-type babies in my herd are usually baby versions OF the ponies (à la Muppet Babies) and only rarely are the offspring of the adults, while "original" babies (e.g. Noddins, Sunribbon) were made the old fashioned way. ;)

G2s aren't actually closely related to the G1/G3 pony clade -- their similarities are due to convergent evolution.

Core 7-era G3 was a terrible magical mistake that occurred because Pinkie Pie extorted an unfortunately-worded wish out of one of the last G1 sea ponies, decimating the population. (A mistake which only got compounded into the horrors of G3.5, in the style of the fisherman's fable.)
Title: Re: Pony theories and headcanons?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on June 21, 2018, 02:51:44 AM
Core 7-era G3 was a terrible magical mistake that occurred because Pinkie Pie extorted an unfortunately-worded wish out of one of the last G1 sea ponies, decimating the population. (A mistake which only got compounded into the horrors of G3.5, in the style of the fisherman's fable.)

I love this. <3