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Title: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: kezrob23 on March 18, 2013, 08:09:54 AM
Just wanted to know if there is a list or something of what ponies shouldn't be sunfaded? Like those that burn, those it doesn't work on, etc? Will regrindy ponies completely regrind? Please share your wisdom with this sunfading newbie :biggrin:
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: salemsparkler on March 18, 2013, 08:21:58 AM
sherbet, milky way, the pink secret surprise, Princess sparkle, the purple fancy pants baby, G2 sweetberry - looks like all the pinky/purple ones.
lickety was alright though.

xx
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: tinrobo on March 18, 2013, 09:16:44 AM
I know Cherry Treats is prone to burning because members on here warned me not to attempt it! ;) And I think Starshine?
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: Eldarwen on March 18, 2013, 12:07:54 PM
I know Starshine is supposed to be prone to burning. But then again, I sunfaded my Starshine back to white and never saw any sings of burning. So, I guess its not same with all the ponies.
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: Shenanigans on March 18, 2013, 12:09:15 PM
Add poor Gingerbread to the list.
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on March 18, 2013, 12:28:36 PM
Certain Starshines burn horribly.  Others are fine, it depends on the type of plastic they have. 
http://mlparena.com/mlp/index.php/topic,324401.0.html (http://mlparena.com/mlp/index.php/topic,324401.0.html)
The top Starshine with age spots has sunburn.  The bottom two are safe to sunfade, with more opaque plastic.   Problem is I'm not sure if there's any good way of telling them apart unless they're already toasty.  There's some evidence that the larger bodied, harder Starshines are the safe ones, but without a large sample size to compare I wouldn't be comfortable calling it conclusive and having someone ruin their pony. 

Definitely Gingerbread and Cherry Treats go off color in the sun.  Seashell too, though I don't know if minimal exposure is safe, long term she turns a sickly yellow/tan.  I suspect BnG Bouquet is also one of the "tanners", given how often she turns up off-colored. 
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: mylittleponylover92 on March 18, 2013, 12:47:52 PM
This is a really interesting thread. I had no idea that certain ponies cant be sunfaded! I have only tried it myself with a yellow G1 Majesty when I vist the family home in spain...since the sun is never around long enough in england! She did get better but it was a slow process for me!

I am considering doing some more when I vist my parents in the middle east. Is TE Whizzer okay to sunfade? I have 2 of her with HORRIBLY discoloured heads to bodies! Was thinking of trying it out over the easter holidays! Im guessing that she is the pink/purple category so no?

Sorry for jumping on this thread, I'll be watching this for tips about who shouldn't be and who can be sunfaded :)
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: PandoraFox on March 18, 2013, 12:51:26 PM
sherbet, milky way, the pink secret surprise, Princess sparkle, the purple fancy pants baby, G2 sweetberry - looks like all the pinky/purple ones.
lickety was alright though.

xx

Bugger, G2 Sweetberry is prone to burning too? I have a Royal Masquerade Ball one here, that I had been hoping to sun fade. She's got a pretty big pink highlighter mark. No deal breaker for me if I honestly can't get it out, but I sure would have liked it gone. Are all versions of her prone to it?
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: Shenanigans on March 18, 2013, 01:00:08 PM
  I suspect BnG Bouquet is also one of the "tanners", given how often she turns up off-colored. 

Aw, I was wondering about her. I have one that needs some sun, but I wondered about her burning :(

Does Quackers burn? Seems like I heard she did.
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: kezrob23 on March 18, 2013, 01:07:01 PM
This is a really interesting thread. I had no idea that certain ponies cant be sunfaded! I have only tried it myself with a yellow G1 Majesty when I vist the family home in spain...since the sun is never around long enough in england! She did get better but it was a slow process for me!

I am considering doing some more when I vist my parents in the middle east. Is TE Whizzer okay to sunfade? I have 2 of her with HORRIBLY discoloured heads to bodies! Was thinking of trying it out over the easter holidays! Im guessing that she is the pink/purple category so no?

Sorry for jumping on this thread, I'll be watching this for tips about who shouldn't be and who can be sunfaded :)

please feel free to jump!! I'm currently sunfading minty, a bride pony, and 2 unknowns (haven't looked them up yet :blush:) one is a lightish pink and the other a regrindy orange. I'm using various methods, sticky tape and sharpie over symbols - one outside one inside, cling wrap and sharpie inside and foil wrapped inside. I was contemplating doing gingerbread, but I guess not now!!
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: mylittleponylover92 on March 18, 2013, 01:20:51 PM
This is a really interesting thread. I had no idea that certain ponies cant be sunfaded! I have only tried it myself with a yellow G1 Majesty when I vist the family home in spain...since the sun is never around long enough in england! She did get better but it was a slow process for me!

I am considering doing some more when I vist my parents in the middle east. Is TE Whizzer okay to sunfade? I have 2 of her with HORRIBLY discoloured heads to bodies! Was thinking of trying it out over the easter holidays! Im guessing that she is the pink/purple category so no?

Sorry for jumping on this thread, I'll be watching this for tips about who shouldn't be and who can be sunfaded :)

please feel free to jump!! I'm currently sunfading minty, a bride pony, and 2 unknowns (haven't looked them up yet :blush:) one is a lightish pink and the other a regrindy orange. I'm using various methods, sticky tape and sharpie over symbols - one outside one inside, cling wrap and sharpie inside and foil wrapped inside. I was contemplating doing gingerbread, but I guess not now!!

Haha thanks!  :lol: Ah cool, I hope it goes well for you!  ^.^ maybe you can share which method works best? Although I think it does depend on what pony is being sunfaded to what works best I think? Im quite a novice at this myself  :blush:

Yeah, Gingerbread surprises me me...I thought TEs would be okay since mine seem to have tougher plastic compared with my other ponies, or maybe its just mine haha.  :P I know she's prone to cancer so for me, if she has it then I'd try anyway...it cant get much worse right? :lookround: That's if her eyes, symbols and hair is protected properly though! Although obviously its down to what the pony owner wants to do!  :) Maybe one day I will try my sweet stuff as a test since the poor girl has a few cancer spots and her nylon isnt in the best condition anyways.
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: Eldarwen on March 18, 2013, 01:45:53 PM
I have a very yellowed baby Quackers in the window right now. We dont have too much sun at the moment, but she's already much, much whiter. Well, she did have a coat of acne cream aswell, but she's been in the sun too.
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: Calico_Star on March 18, 2013, 03:58:38 PM
Chief :drunk:
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: babystarz on March 18, 2013, 06:46:12 PM
Any darker blue or purple pony must be watched closely and checked daily as they can start to get too bleached. I tend to cover their whole bodies except for targeted spots and then check under the tape each day to make sure they're not lightening past the point of the rest of the body. I noticed this with TAF Love Melody while fading some marker spots. If you're doing a whole-body fade to take care of dinginess for blue/purple ponies, check them religiously and keep in mind they need much less time to sunfade because darker colors absorb sunlight while lighters colors reflect it.

White ponies should be watched closely too but I have had fantastic success with Sundance, Quackers and Baby Starbow. It seems that most white ponies should be tested because sunburning potential depends on the batch... With the exception of Cherry Treats, who will always turn brown because of the way the fragrance infused in her plastic reacts to sunlight.

Yellow ponies on the other hand seem very resilient in sunlight, with marks fading but the body color staying bright. So I don't have to be quite as particular about covering them.

I have not sunfaded any green or pink ponies yet so unfortunately I can't give any tips for those body colors. I suspect they are a bit like the blue and purple ponies but to a lesser extent. 

For covering symbols I prefer to use cheap acrylic paint. It's the most precise option and especially for TAF ponies the easiest. To remove, just scrub with a cotton ball soaked in rubbing alcohol.

For eyes, I rip off tiny bits of blue painter's tape and slowly cover each area. The tape tends to peel up so at the end of the day I make a point to check it. I no longer use this tape on symbols because it can leave a sticky residue behind that is impossible to get off.

For hair I fold it into tinfoil and tape along the very base of the mane with painter's tape, being careful to avoid light leaks or getting more than the edge of the tape on the neck.
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: NoPonySpecial on March 18, 2013, 08:57:33 PM
 How about G3 ponies? I have an August Gladiolus (a white pony) who has pink highlighter "chicken pox" all over her face. (Thankfully the NDS, but still a bit of a problem since I'd like to sell her!) Should I try it and keep an eye on her just like if I were sunfading a white G1?
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: kezrob23 on March 18, 2013, 09:17:31 PM
This is awesome! When I last posted it was just after midnight, so the brain wasn't ticking properly. I actually have one with symbols covered in acrylic :biggrin: most had already been in the window a week (during a 30 degree + heat wave) before I thought to take photos, but I can sorta remember how they were. Still spewin on gingerbread, mine is pretty nasty :(
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: reanna-mator on March 19, 2013, 02:06:18 PM
Mimic, supposedly. :(
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: hathorcat on March 19, 2013, 10:25:22 PM
Any pony which is prone to age marks/cancer is the easy answer :) Which technically means every pony - its just that some are much much more likely and others hardly ever. Also sometimes "tanning" appears as discolouration rather than turning brown.

Sunburning is just an enhanced version of what happens when age marks/cancer appear so if you have a pony which this happens on be careful.

Starshine, Cherry Treats, Chief, Baby Moondancer and Gingerbread are the most common examples of ponies which really dont tend to do well in sunlight.
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: Moonracer on April 16, 2013, 06:50:35 PM
Bump. :)

First of all, let me just say that this thread is pure awesomeness: long have I been searching for a thread like this, listing all the ponies that shouldn't be sunfaded, but couldn't find anything until this baby popped up. Thanks so much for the person who created this and all the nice folks who made a contribution to it! :)

Now I guess it's my turn to ask... is it okay to sunfade Bow Tie? I'm asking since I just so happen to own a CP Bow Tie that has a pen mark near her symbols (some kid thought it would be cool to connect all of Bow Tie's... bow ties in a "connect the dots" fashion... *sigh*), which I'd love to get rid off.

I know that she's one of those blue ponies that shouldn't be put in the sun, but on the other hand, I've seen people post before and after pics with blue ponies and it seems that sun fading didn't really harm them all that much...
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: hathorcat on April 16, 2013, 11:17:28 PM
I havent heard of any one having issues with Bow Tie - I wasnt aware she was one who shouldnt be put in the sun. So I am sure you will be fine with her. As with everything the key is simply to check with regularity. No matter the condition or colour of the pony you do risk fading/bleaching the plastic with exposure but as long as you check, the surface stain should shift before the colour of the pigment in the plastic does.
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: girlyponce on April 17, 2013, 12:16:31 AM
I haven't had any trouble sunfading ponies, but I need to sunfade Silver Swirl & I'm terrified something will happed to her. I have a couple that look really dingey compared to the rest. Has anyone has any luck with her?
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: hathorcat on April 17, 2013, 09:32:31 AM
Do you mean because she is white you are worried or because of the sheer number of symbols she has?

I have seen a couple of pictures of her sunfaded in the past but I think the issue is getting all those symbols covered. I ll bump this back up in the hope that someone can share a picture with you.
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on April 19, 2013, 04:04:20 PM
The only issue I'm aware of with Bow-Tie and sunfading is that her symbols are prone to going white quite easily.  That said, I've never actually tried fading her myself, and with the many releases of her in different shades, it's quite probable that she could have varying tolerances.
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: girlyponce on April 19, 2013, 08:59:54 PM
Do you mean because she is white you are worried or because of the sheer number of symbols she has?

I have seen a couple of pictures of her sunfaded in the past but I think the issue is getting all those symbols covered. I ll bump this back up in the hope that someone can share a picture with you.

Just because of her crazy amount of symbols. If the silver doesn't really fade at all in the sun, then it doesn't really matter. Otherwise, it would be a huge PitA
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: hathorcat on April 20, 2013, 10:24:45 AM
Do you mean because she is white you are worried or because of the sheer number of symbols she has?

I have seen a couple of pictures of her sunfaded in the past but I think the issue is getting all those symbols covered. I ll bump this back up in the hope that someone can share a picture with you.

Just because of her crazy amount of symbols. If the silver doesn't really fade at all in the sun, then it doesn't really matter. Otherwise, it would be a huge PitA

Unfortunately everything fades - including the paint on symbols. Silver is not purple or pink or blue however which will loose their colour the fastest but silver will still fade given time. If the sun is strong and intense enough to fade the marks on the pony, it will be strong and intense enough to fade the symbols. You are right it is a pain but honestly, while this colour may be one of the least problematic for fading, I would still cover them up. Have you tried white craft paint to cover them up?
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: girlyponce on April 20, 2013, 12:47:30 PM
None of them are really that awful - they are just dingy do to age. I have one MOC that is super white & a Baby Swirly that is pure white as well. The other ones are a little grey-ish. I think I will test on the SS with a haircut and go from there. Thanks for all the advice!
Title: Re: who shouldn't be sunfaded?
Post by: NoDivision on April 20, 2013, 02:59:15 PM
How about G3 ponies? I have an August Gladiolus (a white pony) who has pink highlighter "chicken pox" all over her face. (Thankfully the NDS, but still a bit of a problem since I'd like to sell her!) Should I try it and keep an eye on her just like if I were sunfading a white G1?
Every white G3 I've tried to fade marks off of has yellowed slightly in the sun, so yes, keep a close eye on them.