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Title: Any information about proto G2 twins?
Post by: NanoRuby on December 03, 2020, 02:04:10 PM
I was looking around on Lavender Lagoon today when I noticed that on the backcards of the G2 twins Giggles and Wiggles and also Dart and Dash, they are shown with different mane colours and one has a different symbol. At first I thought it was just in the art, but a couple of the photos on the boxes show that they actually did make a different version. Does anyone know anything else about the original designs? Have any ever come up for sale or been shown off at an event before?

Not sure why I'm so interested in these, it just seems kind of cool.

Here are the pages I was looking at:
http://www.lavenderlagoon.com/2000gigglesandwiggles.html
http://www.lavenderlagoon.com/2000dartdash.html
Title: Re: Any information about proto G2 twins?
Post by: MintyMyndi on December 03, 2020, 04:04:18 PM
There are others, too; for example, either Jewel or Sparkle would have had a pink carriage instead of a purple castle! As far as I know, the only alternate symbol G2 baby in the hands of collectors is the pink baby shown here. I'm thinking she MAY be Stardust/Moondust, but she's very different from them; her symbol has similarities, though.
http://www.lavenderlagoon.com/prototypes.html
There's also a Jewel/Sparkle with a pink castle, if you want to count her.

It's unfortunate that not all of the twins have their symbols completely visible in either their backcard art or photos. I'd have loved to see more alternate designs!
Title: Re: Any information about proto G2 twins?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on December 04, 2020, 06:23:17 AM
I am still learning about the G2 line and WOW the little moon shaped wand on Giggles/Wiggles :heart:

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: Any information about proto G2 twins?
Post by: Moonbreeze on December 05, 2020, 03:52:44 AM
Unfortunately I haven't come across any of the prototypes shown on the backcards/ booklets.
Only the two oddballs already mentioned by MintyMyndi

But I've based some G2 customs on the prototype symbols, it's really too bad that Hasbro decided not to use those :(
Title: Re: Any information about proto G2 twins?
Post by: NanoRuby on December 10, 2020, 10:33:17 PM
There are others, too; for example, either Jewel or Sparkle would have had a pink carriage instead of a purple castle! As far as I know, the only alternate symbol G2 baby in the hands of collectors is the pink baby shown here. I'm thinking she MAY be Stardust/Moondust, but she's very different from them; her symbol has similarities, though.
http://www.lavenderlagoon.com/prototypes.html
There's also a Jewel/Sparkle with a pink castle, if you want to count her.

It's unfortunate that not all of the twins have their symbols completely visible in either their backcard art or photos. I'd have loved to see more alternate designs!

Those are so interesting, I wonder at what point in the design process the Stardust/Moondust and Jewel/Sparkle were made. I'm assuming all of the twin ponies must have been developed around the same time, so I wonder if there are others like them.
I am still learning about the G2 line and WOW the little moon shaped wand on Giggles/Wiggles :heart:

Love pkw xxx
Unfortunately I haven't come across any of the prototypes shown on the backcards/ booklets.
Only the two oddballs already mentioned by MintyMyndi

But I've based some G2 customs on the prototype symbols, it's really too bad that Hasbro decided not to use those :(

I know, the prototype symbols are so nice. It makes me wonder why they decided to change them. At first I thought maybe a cost thing? But since almost every single pony has a unique symbol, I don't know why they'd feel the need to cheap out this one time.
Title: Re: Any information about proto G2 twins?
Post by: MintyMyndi on December 11, 2020, 11:58:42 AM
Actually, G2 had a TON of recycled symbols. On rare occasions, though, they would just decide to slightly redesign existing ones; I know it happened to Sky Skimmer at one point, and Prince Fauna has a four-leaf clover instead of the three-leaf clovers found on Clever Clover, even though they are supposed to be the same character!
Strawberry Reef has a page showing some of these, though some of the noted symbols are twins or the same character. https://www.strawberryreef.com/Index/G2/G2symbols.html
Heck, G2 symbols didn't stop being recycled in G2! G3 Darling Dahlia's symbol is based on G2 Baby Fleur's symbol, though it's mirrored, has slight alterations, is scaled up, and is WAY more colorful! Before I figured this out (mostly just not being familiar with Baby Fleur), Darling Dahlia's symbol stood out to me for being more like a G1 or G2 symbol, with the shapes having gaps between them instead of being one outlined piece; though those two gens limited their symbols to a maximum of three colors (which G2 rarely used), and G3 would just go ham. As far as I know, that's the only symbol that's been directly recycled between generations without being altered.
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