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Title: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 29, 2017, 08:07:05 AM
What are some of your unpopular pony opinions?

I like most 3D symbols. Cutie Cascades, Princess Ponies, Magic Scenes, Precious Pockets, Secret Surprise, Merry Go Rounds.

I love tinsel hair. It's so beautiful, especially when it sparkles and flashes in sunlight.

I love Drink n Wets and don't care that they pee.

I don't like the Mimic pose. It's my least favorite unicorn pose.

I don't like certain Collector Status Ponies like;

Mimic, if she were more green and less yellow and were on a different pose, I'd be desperately wanting her, because her hair is unique and gorgeous and I adore Twinkle Eyes and the color of hers especially.

I don't get the love for Rapunzel either. She's just blah to me and I don't care for her colors and symbol.

I don't like the original six, I mean I like some of their colors, but that pose bugs me. If they'd looked more like the tweaked pose on Swirly Whirly, I'd love to get some of them.

I love the Gingerbread and Tootsie poses. I think they're cute.

I love gradient color and cascading symbol G3s. I think they're stunning and unique.

I don't like G4, I have a few special toys I keep, because they're unique enough for me to want them around and like them, but the ponies look seriously deformed and the show is merely okay.



Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 29, 2017, 08:17:33 AM
The Rapunzel thing so much.

I don't like Gusty. She is the equivalent of a 90s webpage with a green background and red text.

I like Moondancer's pose.  (But not on Sugar Sweet, it doesn't look good on her.)

I don't like Wind Whistler's cartoon personality.  I always felt like she was purposely throwing word-of-the-day vocabulary into her speech to look smart when she was not, in fact, particularly clever.  She still needed a twelve year old girl to take charge, you know what I'm sayin'?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on March 29, 2017, 08:35:11 AM
Ooooh, I love threads like these.

I don't really get all the hype about Mimic and Rapunzel, either. I mean, they're alright, but.. -shrug- They don't really appeal to me (which is probably a good thing given how expensive they are XD).

I genuinely like the Running Press Firefly. Also I dislike the nickname "Fakiefly" for her, mostly cause it's misleading. Like.. I get that it's a joke, I understand that, but still..

I'm not particularly interested in Friendship is Magic, never have been. (I mean, I'm sure it's not all bad and I do like some of the songs and stuff, but *in general* it's just not my thing) Also I can't stand the "Winter Wrap-Up" song and that seems to be one of the more popular ones?

I loved the Equestria Girls dolls (well, I still do) and I really don't like the EQG Minis...

I know a lot of people want G1 characters to return in G4/be released as G4 ponies/whatever but honestly I don't really care either way; I'd rather have new characters. I dunno. It's funny cause I love cross-gen customs, but official-wise I'd rather just have something new? It's weird, idk.

Also I don't really care whether or not sea ponies return to G4. (I guess this is moot what with the movie's merponies-that-will-probably-be-called-"seaponies", but you know) I mean, I like sea ponies well enough, but idk I'd rather have boy ponies or something XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on March 29, 2017, 08:58:49 AM
I don't like punzie either haha!! Her hair is a mess

I'm really excited about g4 seaponies : ) seaponies were my favorite favorite thing about g1, and I am intrigued to see what g4 does with them. I don't think it's about copying verbatim, I think it's about interpreting an idea and rolling with it in their own way!! I can't wait to see the g4 movie.

My girlfriend absolutely Loves gradient g3s but I still think they're a little too ostentatious for me :' D  I'm really more on a minimalist than she is.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shabi on March 29, 2017, 09:58:57 AM
I don't like Rapunzel. Pink with blond hair? I'll pass. If I had her, I'd sell her and buy a million of Twilight Sparkles and Pinkie Pies. What? I'm still missing like 150 versions in my G4 collection!
I like G3.5. Just not the babies. And G2.
I like plush body plastic head baby ponies. They're adorable. I wish human babies were this cute, I'd have forty.
I like G4.5. I want customs on these fresh molds!
I love huge complex symbols and weird gimmicks. Also tinsel. If it fits the colors of course.
I love neon ponies! Tropical theme is my favourite in all gens.
I love tons of colors in pony hair. Rainbow haired ponies are cool. Aren't these two colored ponies boring?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: little.fox on March 29, 2017, 11:57:40 AM
I really don't like Rapunzel either, I can't see what the fuss is about, at all!  :what:

Also, so-softs freak me out! Never liked the feel of flocking.. *shudders*

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 29, 2017, 12:00:58 PM
I don't like the So-Softs either.  Even as a kid I didn't like their gimmick.

I don't like Morning Glory (the flutter).  Not her personality and definitely not her color scheme.

Dream Beauties look perpetually depressed to me because their mouths are like real horse mouths, so essentially they aren't smiling.

I think Teeny Tiny babies are the worst molds ever made with one exception (the Newborn Cuties).  Worse than G4, worse than G3.5.  Talk about 'not looking anything like horses'.

I don't like the Newborn molds or the Fancy Mermaid mold either.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: little.fox on March 29, 2017, 12:07:33 PM
I don't like the So-Softs either.  Even as a kid I didn't like their gimmick.

I don't like Morning Glory (the flutter).  Not her personality and definitely not her color scheme.

Dream Beauties look perpectually depressed to me because their mouths are like real horse mouths, so essentially they aren't smiling.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Dream Beauties. I just can't love those girls. They have such an empty, glazed over expression that I find unsettling, especially in combination with all that makeup.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on March 29, 2017, 12:13:59 PM
I really don't like Rapunzel either, I can't see what the fuss is about, at all!  :what:

Also, so-softs freak me out! Never liked the feel of flocking.. *shudders*


I used to really not care for sosofts. Not because of the texture, but because their beautiful symbols get so covered up! Angel is one of my most favoritest ponies and you can't even tell it's her under all that fluff! I actually rather like the texture of the flocking though, it's rather... Stimtastic
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 29, 2017, 12:16:36 PM
With the exception of G3 Applejack I don't like AJ.

Post Merge: March 29, 2017, 12:17:12 PM

I don't like the So-Softs either.  Even as a kid I didn't like their gimmick.

I don't like Morning Glory (the flutter).  Not her personality and definitely not her color scheme.

Dream Beauties look perpectually depressed to me because their mouths are like real horse mouths, so essentially they aren't smiling.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Dream Beauties. I just can't love those girls. They have such an empty, glazed over expression that I find unsettling, especially in combination with all that makeup.


I love them. They remind me of Fashion Star Fillies and She-Ra horses.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on March 29, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
I like the gen 3.5 ponies in fact I am looking for just one more mom pony and that is about it. I do have a newborn MIB though I got at a church sale.

I think BBE ponies are super cute, and I have one that only one one works, when you lay her down. That also changes what eye closes depend on what side she is laid on.

I also love the flutters with fat heads , they are cute to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on March 29, 2017, 01:13:12 PM
Oh, I don't like So Softs, either. You can barely see their symbols!! And their pretty colours get covered up. It's annoying since a lot of SS ponies have beautiful colours and/or symbols...

Also, idk if this is a popular or unpopular opinion or what, but I don't like First Tooth babies, either. I dunno, the tooth just looks weird to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on March 29, 2017, 01:58:15 PM
I don't like Wind Whistler's cartoon personality.  I always felt like she was purposely throwing word-of-the-day vocabulary into her speech to look smart when she was not, in fact, particularly clever.  She still needed a twelve year old girl to take charge, you know what I'm sayin'?
I do love her cartoon personality myself, but at the same time, I agree with you.  I think the writers just kept a thesaurus nearby when they were writing episodes featuring Wind Whistler, or something.  That seems to be how it was back then (and maybe still is), an easy way to clue the audience in on who the clever character was was to have them use big words (and possibly have one of the other characters respond with a line like "In English, please?" to further emphasise this).

As for my unpopular opinions, well the first one that springs to mind is that I love the term "cutie mark", I think every generation's cartoons look like ponies, with the exception of the non-G1 baby ponies, I thought "Slice of Life" was good, and not that fan pandering, or at least not so much so it got in the way of the episode, and (last one, for now at least) I actually view season four onwards of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic as lighter and softer than the preceding seasons, despite it possibly trying to be darker and edgier.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Minty_Magic on March 29, 2017, 02:56:56 PM
My very first thought when I saw this thread was "I don't think Rapunzel is anything special", guess that's not so terribly unpopular after all! :P

G3 is probably my favorite generation toy wise  :blush: I know it got kinda lazy towards the end, but there were some truly unique and fun designs in its run! I like the more detailed symbols.

I also think the G4.5/reboot molds are adorable, to the point where I've been willing to re-buy ponies I already had to get the new pose.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: josiekat on March 29, 2017, 04:16:48 PM
I don't like sea ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Blue Haired Ken Doll on March 29, 2017, 05:18:35 PM
I love tinsle! And I love cute gimicks like the sweet talking ponies, or the ones with the straw
Also im not crazy about g4, I have 3 ponies but I wont get many more.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Stormness_1 on March 29, 2017, 05:24:30 PM
Recycling these, but I don't like sea ponies either - or flutters for that matter... they're a bit weird.

I like 3D symbols... I think they're awesome, except for storage, then they suck. Lots!

I like the Tootsie pose. I don't care that the leg is longer, I love how casual and carefree it looks, such happy lopsided ponies!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponycake on March 29, 2017, 06:01:27 PM
I love the eyelash princesses, I think there's a very small pool of us :lol:. The piggy ponies are weird. The cartoon aside from the specials was horrible and unwatchable for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on March 29, 2017, 06:38:30 PM
I don't like Rapunzel or Mimic. In fact, Mimic is the only TE pony I don't like.

I think ponies in Collector's pose look depressed.

I don't care for baby ponies.

I prefer ponies without gimmicks.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on March 29, 2017, 07:12:50 PM
I think ponies in Collector's pose look depressed.

I don't care for baby ponies.


both of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i hate nearly all baby ponies... and i think the collectors pose is SUCH a stinker. theres so many beautiful poses out there the collectors one is so Eyore..
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on March 29, 2017, 07:37:08 PM
I like Bunny Hop's pose. As a kid, I thought it was really cool.

Goldilocks was way more cuter then Rapunzel.

And. I am ready to dodge fakies. I wouldn't like most G1 ponies if it wasn't for nostalgia.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 30, 2017, 12:43:56 AM
Oh, I just thought of another one.  I don't like the idea of the boy ponies being drafthorses (furry hooves) while the females don't have furry hooves.

If they wanted to make a new breed with both male AND female drafthorses, then okay.  But having just the boys as drafthorses (and in the US, ALL the boys except like two babies) just doesn't make sense.  (I also dislike most of the Big Brother ponies' designs.)

I blame Lady & the Tramp for this, with the whole "the girl puppies are purebred spaniels still, somehow, and the boy puppy is a clone of the Tramp", lol.  What was up with that?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on March 30, 2017, 12:48:30 AM
Oh, I just thought of another one.  I don't like the idea of the boy ponies being drafthorses (furry hooves) while the females don't have furry hooves.

If they wanted to make a new breed with both male AND female drafthorses, then okay.  But having just the boys as drafthorses (and in the US, ALL the boys except like two babies) just doesn't make sense.  (I also dislike most of the Big Brother ponies' designs.)

I blame Lady & the Tramp for this, with the whole "the girl puppies are purebred spaniels still, somehow, and the boy puppy is a clone of the Tramp", lol.  What was up with that?


heteronormativity is everywhere, my dude!! the boys are drafthorses so that you know theyre boys :        )
just like things with eyelashes are girls, and scruffy hard working scrappy things are boys. hasbro is no exception, especially in the 80s. but even now- they have a seperate "boy" mold instead of just making boy ponies with the same molds.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: princessluna11706 on March 30, 2017, 04:10:02 AM
I don't like Gusty. She is the equivalent of a 90s webpage with a green background and red text.

:lol: this made me laugh out loud!

I like the BBE babies! I had some as a kid and I think they're really cute.
I also like eyelash princesses and tinsel. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 30, 2017, 06:20:48 AM
I like Bunny Hop's pose. As a kid, I thought it was really cool.

Goldilocks was way more cuter then Rapunzel.

And. I am ready to dodge fakies. I wouldn't like most G1 ponies if it wasn't for nostalgia.

I like Bunny Hop's pose too. It's one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on March 30, 2017, 08:03:45 AM
but even now- they have a seperate "boy" mold instead of just making boy ponies with the same molds.

Prism Glider and Neon Lights are dudes and they're in female molds. All the G2 boys had the same molds as the girls, too. Not to mention some of the traditionally female G1 ponies were made into boys in different countries (the Prince ponies, Re Unicorno, Gustavo, etc)... but I'm rambling. ^^;
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on March 30, 2017, 09:13:14 AM
What are some of your unpopular pony opinions?

I love tinsel hair. It's so beautiful, especially when it sparkles and flashes in sunlight.

I don't like the Mimic pose. It's my least favorite unicorn pose.

I don't like certain Collector Status Ponies like;

Mimic, if she were more green and less yellow and were on a different pose, I'd be desperately wanting her, because her hair is unique and gorgeous and I adore Twinkle Eyes and the color of hers especially.

I don't get the love for Rapunzel either. She's just blah to me and I don't care for her colors and symbol.

I love the Gingerbread and Tootsie poses. I think they're cute.

I love gradient color and cascading symbol G3s. I think they're stunning and unique.


I agree with the above!

I love the Gingerbread pose too, it's athletic and strong.  I did own a perfect Gingerbread once but I sold her within three months because I couldn't bear to display her.  I kept worrying too much about her condition.  Too perfect! However, I do have Shady, Daisy Sweet, Sky Rocket and Birthday pony but I would love to have TE Sky Rocket and Cupcake too.

I also love the Tootsie pose, particularly Tootsie, Snowflake, Cuddles, Merriweather, Cherries Jubilee, Tutti Frutti, Sweet Suds, Cherry Sweet, Rosette, Play Time and Magic Star. So many nice ponies!

My favourite complete set of ponies is the set that includes Snowflake, Gypsy, Honeycomb and Hopscotch.  Not sure if that's controversial or not but I think they are just such a great set.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 30, 2017, 09:36:32 AM
What are some of your unpopular pony opinions?

I love tinsel hair. It's so beautiful, especially when it sparkles and flashes in sunlight.

I don't like the Mimic pose. It's my least favorite unicorn pose.

I don't like certain Collector Status Ponies like;

Mimic, if she were more green and less yellow and were on a different pose, I'd be desperately wanting her, because her hair is unique and gorgeous and I adore Twinkle Eyes and the color of hers especially.

I don't get the love for Rapunzel either. She's just blah to me and I don't care for her colors and symbol.

I love the Gingerbread and Tootsie poses. I think they're cute.

I love gradient color and cascading symbol G3s. I think they're stunning and unique.


I agree with the above!

I love the Gingerbread pose too, it's athletic and strong.  I did own a perfect Gingerbread once but I sold her within three months because I couldn't bear to display her.  I kept worrying too much about her condition.  Too perfect! However, I do have Shady, Daisy Sweet, Sky Rocket and Birthday pony but I would love to have TE Sky Rocket and Cupcake too.

I also love the Tootsie pose, particularly Tootsie, Snowflake, Cuddles, Merriweather, Cherries Jubilee, Tutti Frutti, Sweet Suds, Cherry Sweet, Rosette, Play Time and Magic Star. So many nice ponies!

My favourite complete set of ponies is the set that includes Snowflake, Gypsy, Honeycomb and Hopscotch.  Not sure if that's controversial or not but I think they are just such a great set.


Who's Daisy Sweet?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 30, 2017, 09:37:16 AM
All the G2 boys had the same molds as the girls, too.

Yeah, I really like that about G2.

I like Bunny Hop's pose as well.

I don't know if this is controversial, but I wish Honeycomb's hair was golden (like her baby) instead of chartreuse.  I think it makes more sense for a bee themed pony--like honey. ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on March 30, 2017, 09:55:23 AM

Who's Daisy Sweet?

Here she is!

http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Daisy_Sweet (http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Daisy_Sweet)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 30, 2017, 10:22:38 AM

Who's Daisy Sweet?

Here she is!

http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Daisy_Sweet (http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Daisy_Sweet)

Oh!  :doh:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mana Minori on March 30, 2017, 10:25:59 AM
I genuinely like the Takara ponies, which are adorable.
I like g4 ponies, even though fans of earlier gens don't really seem to.
I dislike the seaponies, of g1 and their shoo-be-doo's.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on March 30, 2017, 12:02:18 PM
I also am not a huge fan of the collectors pose.

Semi related, I don't understand why G3 Minty is considered the same character as g1 Minty.  IMHO, they are clearly two different ponies.  Not at all like g1 Applejack and G4 Applejack.

Speaking of which, g1 Applejack has always been one of my least favorite ponies.  (Orange is my least favorite color.). I only like G4 Applejack because my Texas self loves her country personality and emphasis on family.

To me Mail Order Stockings is *the* definitive Christmas pony (she was in my childhood herd) and I'm always surprised at how she is so little known compared to the other holiday ponies.  And I keep trying to fix this by pointing it out whenever I can.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on March 30, 2017, 01:53:17 PM
Oh, I just remembered two more boy ponies in girl molds. Sniffles (http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Sniffles_and_Snookums) (well, in the UK at least) and Noodles (http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Doodles_and_Noodles).

Semi related, I don't understand why G3 Minty is considered the same character as g1 Minty.  IMHO, they are clearly two different ponies.  Not at all like g1 Applejack and G4 Applejack.

Yes, same!! IMO if they're from a different gen, then they're different characters. Like, I consider G1, G3 and G4 Applejack to be three entirely seperate characters.

I don't know if this is controversial, but I wish Honeycomb's hair was golden (like her baby) instead of chartreuse.  I think it makes more sense for a bee themed pony--like honey. ;)

This would be nice!! I like how her baby doesn't match her (I dunno, I just like it when the baby ponies are slightly different - like how Baby Glory and Moondancer's hair is lighter than their mums', or how some of them are different breeds, etc) but Honeycomb would look nice with that colour hair.. I wonder if anyone's ever made a custom like that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: mlly on March 30, 2017, 02:29:36 PM
I don't dislike her but I just don't get why G3 Minty is so popular and is the most popular of her Gen. Her colors and symbols are nothing special.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 30, 2017, 02:52:55 PM
I don't dislike her but I just don't get why G3 Minty is so popular and is the most popular of her Gen. Her colors and symbols are nothing special.


They like her personality.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khayman81 on March 30, 2017, 03:11:17 PM
First and then you can kill me off: l like customizing ponies, for me is like giving them a new life, so sorry for those who find that an abomination.

Then, l hate flutter pony original wings, they look like nothing the ones from the tv show. Ok they are shiny and sparkling but still, don't like them.

As for Perfume puff ponies, l would love to get a Red Roses with baited hair so l could rehair her my way.

As for so soft ponies, they should all have been like this or none of them, but when you get used to the nss the flocked are weird. Maybe if from the beginning all the ponies would have been flocked then it would be ok. After all ponies have fur...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponytales on March 30, 2017, 03:40:18 PM
Don't like So-Softs. As previously said, the flocking takes away from the beauty of their symbols and colours. For example, I love Lofty but only if she's perfectly deflocked. That way I can really *see* her!

Also don't like the BBE's. It's hard for me not to attach a personality to every pony that comes through my door but the BBE's are just creepy to me.... I feel like they're always about to blink all by themselves!  :shocked:

And yet I LOVE the Piggy Ponies. They're beautiful and not creepy at all!

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on March 30, 2017, 04:50:50 PM
And yet I LOVE the Piggy Ponies. They're beautiful and not creepy at all!

I love love love piggy ponies. Especially Algodoncete, she's a big dreamie of mine. Her little legs are just so cute! How could anybody not love something so unique?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Crystal-Sushi on March 30, 2017, 05:15:21 PM
I adore the teeny-tiny face, perhaps because it does resemble a cat, and I've always loved cats!
I dislike most ponies with electronic gimmicks, as they tend to use the harder plastic which makes them feel... cheaper? in my eyes, and I like vaguely squishy pony vinyl  ^.^
I don't actually mind the obvious jointing/movable parts/magnet noses found on Magic Motion G2s - not sure why. When I was younger this used to bug me, but now I'm able to easily overlook it for some reason :satisfied:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on March 30, 2017, 08:29:02 PM
I don't like Wind Whistler's cartoon personality.  I always felt like she was purposely throwing word-of-the-day vocabulary into her speech to look smart when she was not, in fact, particularly clever.  She still needed a twelve year old girl to take charge, you know what I'm sayin'?

Haha, so true! I never cared for her either.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jorgito93 on March 31, 2017, 09:31:17 AM
I love the G3 So Softs, i think they are really adorable.
I love the original G4 style for the toys and i much prefer it to the reboot.
I don't care for Punzie (is that really an unpopular opinion now that everybody is saying it?)
I like Tinsel and 3D symbols when it looks good (like on the g1 princesses)
I love the G4 talking twilight toy, she is one of my favorite g4 toys and one of my favorites from all generations tbh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 31, 2017, 11:38:30 PM
Hrm.
I don't like Sundae Best ponies, I think their changed moulds and wishy washy colours make them ugly. I also consider all sweet-related scented ponies some kind of weapon of mass destruction unleashed on the world because of the nauseating nature of their perfumes. The only scents I can stand are the Perfume Puffs, which I adore.

I like UK pony names better than US pony names. And will use them, even if people don't have a clue who I mean xD.

I hate Pinkie Pie.

I am not a huge fan of MLP animation in any generation. I like G1 better than G3 and G4, but I can take it or leave it. I am a comic character girl. I also actively hate MLP the Movie. The only thing in it that I don't hate is the smooze song, because it's epic.

Magic Star looks better with all four hooves on the ground.  (This is an opinion that surprises even me because as a kid I hated that pose, but now I can't see the rearing SS as the true Magic Star...to me she's the one in Tootsie's pose and that's that.)

I don't need there to be a G5. I also don't need to see Hasbro superimpose G1 onto any other generation. I am happy with G1 as G1, and think that later generations should have and deserve their own identity. I also don't mind if MLP ends for good or if it doesn't, because I don't believe you can recreate childhood nostalgia that easily anyway. Basically, you can't uninvent what already exists, and to me MLP doesn't need to keep creating new lines to justify itself.

The most unpopular opinion I probably have though is this one:

Many Nirvana prices are entirely unjustifiable, and spending several thousand dollars on a single pony, while I respect that as an individual choice, to me is utterly crazy. I get a tick every time I see someone say that x pony is "worth" $3000. It's only worth that if someone is willing to pay it, and quite frankly, all ponies were created equal.




Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 01, 2017, 12:25:11 AM
Oh, that reminds me of another unpopular opinion of mine:

I hate the term "Nirvana".  I prefer "variants" and "country exclusives."
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 01, 2017, 12:31:09 AM
Oh, that reminds me of another unpopular opinion of mine:

I hate the term "Nirvana".  I prefer "variants" and "country exclusives."

If we're getting down to that nitty gritty, I dislike the term "variant" being applied to something sold in Europe or the UK vis a vis the US version. The most common example is with Confetti, or the Fancy Pants Babies. The word version is fine, but variant makes it sound like they're some kind of mutated species that's subordinate to the original genus. In fact, in the case of those two examples, they have different set names anyway to identify them.

Whiich brings me to another gripe I totally forgot till you brought this up.

I really hate "non-" labels. Non Beddy Bye Eye. Non So Soft. etc. Ponies are not non-versions of another pony. They're ponies in their own right and have proper labels that I wish people would use instead.

I don't really like the Nirvana term either, now you mention it. It sounds elitist.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 01, 2017, 03:16:34 AM
I love g3.5s, FiM, BBEs and Pinky Pie both g3 and 4.

So-softs are great. Sure the symbol is buried but if you deflock, they're brilliant n who needs to see em anyway; they're for snuggling.

I love damaged and discolored ponies. They're lovable, sometimes unique and almost always real cheap n i dont have to worry about messing them up.

I just got Mimic. I thought i'd like her more. Im sure i will once i've ripped out her eyes n put in real gems. Soon i'll have all the dull eye ponies with real eye gems.

Ive always loved Eeyore (who seems suddenly in fashion but didnt used to be) and maybe is why i love original collectors pose and wish for My Pretty Pony. Also like gimmics, cant wait to have MPP's wacky eye and ear.  So cool!

Forgot to add my #1 most favoritest thing: Princess Big Mac.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shabi on April 01, 2017, 08:46:13 AM
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Oh, I don't like So Softs, either. You can barely see their symbols!! And their pretty colours get covered up. It's annoying since a lot of SS ponies have beautiful colours and/or symbols...

Also, idk if this is a popular or unpopular opinion or what, but I don't like First Tooth babies, either. I dunno, the tooth just looks weird to me.
Agreed on everything!
I've had toys with flocking in my childhood. It's a pain. Even if the slightest bit of flocking is off the whole toy looks bad and it's really easy to damage the flocking. And the worst part is you can't do anything about it! If plastic had a scratch you can sand it. If the flocking is damaged it's the end of the world.
First tooth babies look creepy to me. Why is their tooth should be visible again?.. Do they put it out on a display like "heyyyy I got my first tooth!"?
Remembering first tooth babies I remembered that I hate baby Quackers. Her voice is super annoying and why does she quack? Is it a condition? Or is she just trying to cosplay a duck? She sounds like Donald Duck.

There are also G4 ponies I don't like. I don't like Luna. Luna fanboys will find me and kill me. I mean yeah I like her design but her whiny edgy character is ugh. And every edgelord fanboying(girling) over her like mad hating Celestia and other princesses, saying how much Luna is unappreciated and how lonely she is (basically transferring their problems on her) is driving me insane. I don't like Muffin pony for the same reason - bad fanbase. What's so great about her anyway? The fact that she's (probably) disabled? Nope, being disabled isn't fun. If she's not disabled and just a blonde stereotype it's even worse. I'm glad they re-voiced her. And I was scared to see the raging brony community when they did.
I love Tirek. Both of them. A villain who's actually evil and not a "I need love to survive", "I was jelly of my big sis and let the monster in", "I'm a goofy weirdo", "I have a giant selfesteem but it doesn't help my bad magic skills", "rawr, crystals", "bad hair day", "Daring notice me sempai" and "my childhood sweetheart left me so I'll zombify a village". I love villains who's evil because they want to, not because mommy didn't love them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on April 01, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
Remembering first tooth babies I remembered that I hate baby Quackers. Her voice is super annoying and why does she quack? Is it a condition? Or is she just trying to cosplay a duck?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who was annoyed by this.

Oh and on a related note, the way the G1 babies would talk, constantly using "me" in place of "I", drove me nuts. I've never heard real pre-school age kids talk like that.


Another one: I love SHS and wish there were more of them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 01, 2017, 03:00:15 PM

There are also G4 ponies I don't like. I don't like Luna. Luna fanboys will find me and kill me. I mean yeah I like her design but her whiny edgy character is ugh. And every edgelord fanboying(girling) over her like mad hating Celestia and other princesses, saying how much Luna is unappreciated and how lonely she is (basically transferring their problems on her) is driving me insane.
Um... what "edgy character"?  Is this how (some) bronies write her, because I've never seen anything edgy about her character in the show...

I love Princess Luna, but I agree with your point.  It's annoying how some of her fans are to Princess Celestia (who I also love).

Also, I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion here yet (people didn't seem to know what i was talking about last time), but I love Angel Bunny and I don't see him the way most Fluttershy fans seem to.

Seriously, I'm a Fluttershy fan (she's my favorite pony), but I can tell that he's usually very kind and supportive to her, with "Putting Your Hoof Down" being the exception (yet bronies act like he's always like that, if not worse).  Usually Angel's main flaw is that he's spoiled, but some of Fluttershy's fans act like he routinely hurts her, which he doesn't.  Is this a joke, because it saddens me that they see him like this.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 01, 2017, 04:16:34 PM
Shabi, i love luna and i'm on my way there right now to get you. :frolic:
(Edited to add: i'm totally joking about the second part! Im not sure that was 100 percent clear)

Not everyone sees luna as a whiny loser or has to hate Tia. It's transference to dislike any character just to oppose some few of that character's more vocal (and whiny) fans.

Perhaps i can convince you to give my version of her a read? "a pony story" in FiM subforum. I dont think anyones reading it and its looking like i'll have to revise without anyone's input before publishing it on fanfic sites. I promise, theres no mufin pony in there or "lunar republic" hogwash and i challenge you to dislike luna after reading it.

I love Freza in dragonball z, now thats a good bad guy. Tirec wasnt that evil at all, he didnt even punish the Princesses for stashing their magic. He didnt kill anyone actually, he just wanted power. No worse than Sunset Shimmer, oh and was all that last stuff about Starlight or were you referring to some other ponies too? I couldnt really tell...i really like starlight but i liked her best when she first appeared so i kept liking her in spite of her bad writing afterwards.

Edit:  Oh wait!  I recognize the Queen, Nightmare Moon, Trixie....Sombra?  I don't know who goofy, bad hair day, or notice me are though....totally stumped!  Help me out!

yet another edit:  I think this is unpopular:  I completely don't like Fluttershy.  She's supposed to be shy and nice but she's just passive-aggressive and mopey.  And the whole Stare thing is weak.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SundanceSadie on April 01, 2017, 09:45:08 PM
I think ponies in Collector's pose look depressed.

I don't care for baby ponies.


both of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i hate nearly all baby ponies... and i think the collectors pose is SUCH a stinker. theres so many beautiful poses out there the collectors one is so Eyore..

Love it!  :iconclap:
I will now forever think of the collectors pose as the Eeyore pose, which I actually happen to like. Eeyore as well  ;)

I'm pretty sure this is very unpopular though...I don't like the Sweetheart Sister Ponies  :shocked:   They're just too deer-like without enough horse like proportions. Just my opinion.

The second one is the pearlized baby ponies...I feel like that opinion is probably unpopular too? If they had painted the eyes on after the pearlizing process I'd be good. But since they didn't, they look like the undead to me. You know, that whole glazed over, gross, milky eye thing?!
I just can't  :drool: :freak:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on April 02, 2017, 06:56:01 AM
I don't really like the sweetheart sisters either, so your not alone.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: DalaPony on April 02, 2017, 09:12:03 AM
I'm not that fond of the Sweetheart Sisters either. I never took to the characters when they were introduced in the UK comic, and that bled over into me not liking the toys very much either. I still think they look a bit weird.

Put me down as another person who loves the Tootsy pose. I think it looks really cute, especially on Cherries Jubilee.

I don't like European Princess Sparkle at all. All the glitter and fibre optic lights and whatnot are just too much. She reminds of a cupcake that's been decorated by someone who doesn't know where to stop and has piled heaps and heaps of icing and glittery sprinkles on it. Looking at her kind of gives me toothache :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 02, 2017, 09:36:28 AM
I don't like Teddy and I think he's a jerk. I'm alright with cartoon jerks as long as they're entertaining, but he is not and I don't get why he's so popular.

I don't like the pearlized set of baby ponies either. I mean it looks great on the Pretty n Pearlies and the G4 Pearlies, but not the baby set.

I want more Princess Gold Lily and Princess Sterling toys, they're such pretty unipegs.

I dislike the terms alicorn, cutie mark, and putting pony into various words, everypony,somepony, it's forced and sounds lame, not to mention the sheer number of horse puns annoys me. Stop Hasbro. We know they're horses.

I'm not fond of Pinkie Pie G3 or G4.

I like G3 Rainbowdash better. I need to get her back in my collection someday.

I don't like Changelings.

I like Bat Ponies a lot.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shabi on April 02, 2017, 09:50:11 AM
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Um... what "edgy character"?
Princess of the night, dark design, jealous of her sister, becoming a monster, torturing herself with guilt and threatening to destroy Equestria seem pretty edgy to me :) I mean she won't beat Sombra's edgyness (he's like an ultimate "original character do not steal") but still.
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Seriously, I'm a Fluttershy fan (she's my favorite pony), but I can tell that he's usually very kind and supportive to her, with "Putting Your Hoof Down" being the exception (yet bronies act like he's always like that, if not worse).  Usually Angel's main flaw is that he's spoiled, but some of Fluttershy's fans act like he routinely hurts her, which he doesn't.  Is this a joke, because it saddens me that they see him like this.
Agreed. Angel doesn't hate Flutty. It's tough love.
lostpony, I don't actually dislike Luna, just the rabid lunafans. I'm pretty indifferent to Luna herself, but if I had to choose between loving or hating her I'd choose to love her, she's very lovable :)

I wish I could read your fanfic but sadly I don't have time to read, especially in English. I have to use google translate when reading or writing a lot  :blush:
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Not everyone sees luna as a whiny loser or has to hate Tia. It's transference to dislike any character just to oppose some few of that character's more vocal (and whiny) fans.
I know, I know. But I can't do anything about myself. Every time I see a whiny fan I feel a bit mad about the character who they're whiny about. It was much worse when I just got into FiM. I had internet fights a lot  :biggrin:
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Edit:  Oh wait!  I recognize the Queen, Nightmare Moon, Trixie....Sombra?  I don't know who goofy, bad hair day, or notice me are though....totally stumped!  Help me out!
Yep! "Goofy" is Discord, "notice me" is Ahuizotl (I can see him stealing stuff just to get in another book about Daring Do. He just looses all the time so why does he try? He wants to be a star! XD), "bad hair day" is Mane-iak. I hope I didn't insult anyone's favourite character, this was supposed to be silly xP

I think Sweetheart Sisters are cute! Like some kind of teenage ponies. Were they aimed at teenager girls by the way?

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I want more Princess Gold Lily and Princess Sterling toys, they're such pretty unipegs.
Agreed! I thing the fact their wings are different colors from their bodies makes them unique. I've seen people hate them for that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 02, 2017, 10:03:28 AM
I can't stand Truly's character and this kinda carries over into her toy. Which is a shame because I love her pose, name and symbol.

I wish Princess Twilight Sparkle had blue in her hair like her predecessor Twilight Twinkle.

I wish the Tales boys had been made, I don't understand why they, as main characters didn't get toys. I would love to have Lancer.

Speaking of, Lancer is woefully underrated and needs more attention. Even Ace is more popular and he's the most boring of the trio.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 02, 2017, 10:17:33 AM
Teddy is just awful.  I don't ship him and Sweetheart at all (or him or anyone), he's such a jerk.  Ace is also pretty bad--kind of like the pony version of Gaston.  Speaking of Tales, my least favorite main Tales girl is . . . SWEETHEART. Hey Sweetheart, your verbal quirk is really truly annoying.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 02, 2017, 10:28:11 AM
Teddy is just awful.  I don't ship him and Sweetheart at all (or him or anyone), he's such a jerk.  Ace is also pretty bad--kind of like the pony version of Gaston.  Speaking of Tales, my least favorite main Tales girl is . . . SWEETHEART. Hey Sweetheart, your verbal quirk is really truly annoying.

Ha! I forgot she did that. I haven't seen Tales in forever.

Twilight Sparkle is far more reminiscent of Starlight then Twilight. Studious? Check. Serious? Check.  Teacher's pet? Check. A team leader of sorts? Check.


It bugs me that the main six are said to be more like G1 ponies when most of them are G3 ponies. It bugs me more when G4 fans superimpose the main six's personality on them, when the G1s and G3s are their own characters.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 02, 2017, 10:40:47 AM
I'm not a big fan of Mimic. 


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on April 02, 2017, 10:58:27 AM
I'm not a big fan of Mimic. 


Ponyfan

I think her pose is really dinky and weird.. I'm not a huge fan either. But I am really enchanted with her cutie mark... More birds please!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 02, 2017, 11:51:38 AM
I can never decide if I like TAF Buttons. I love and dislike Munchy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Luxrayx on April 02, 2017, 12:13:26 PM
I don't like G1 TAF ponies at all. They just look messy and overdone!
Then again, G2 Silver Swirl is my favorite thing ever, so I'm a bit of a hypocrite :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 02, 2017, 04:15:10 PM
I want more Princess Gold Lily and Princess Sterling toys, they're such pretty unipegs.

I dislike the terms alicorn, cutie mark, and putting pony into various words, everypony,somepony, it's forced and sounds lame, not to mention the sheer number of horse puns annoys me. Stop Hasbro. We know they're horses.

HERE HERE!!! I looove Gold Lily and Sterling.. I wish we had more winged unicorn toys in general, really. Who cares if they don't "make sense" within the show's storyline - just give me more winged unicorns!! XP

And I won't even get into how much I hate the term "cutie mark".. :razz:

edit: Oh, I thought of another one. I hate the term "show accurate". I really don't care if the toy has a slightly different eye shape, or if her hair is longer than her cartoon counterpart, or whatever :p
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: daffodil101 on April 02, 2017, 04:38:43 PM
I'mm not a huge fan of brush 'n' grow ponies.  Especially the Princess set-- the jewels on the forehead just look awful to me.  Also dislike Baby Princess Sparkle.  Just something over-the-top gimmicky-girly about them.

Also no interest in Rapunzel (common theme!)

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on April 02, 2017, 04:46:44 PM
I do like TAF buttons but I do not like her so soft form that much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: wyndeboo on April 02, 2017, 05:43:23 PM
I have never understood all the hype around rapunzel. Shes just not my cup of tea.

And i really am not a fan of TAF dancing butterflies
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 02, 2017, 06:05:56 PM
I'm pretty picky about TAFs myself. I personally think the way G3 did the concept was​ better. But I love the unicorn babies, Dancing Butterflies, Sweet Tooth, Up Up and Away and Nightglider.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 02, 2017, 10:54:15 PM

I dislike the terms alicorn, cutie mark, and putting pony into various words, everypony,somepony, it's forced and sounds lame, not to mention the sheer number of horse puns annoys me. Stop Hasbro. We know they're horses.

But that's the only way we know they're not deer.

I'm not fond of Pinkie Pie G3 or G4.
More for me.


...if I had to choose between loving or hating her I'd choose to love her, she's very lovable :)
Slippery slope....sounds like a rabid lunafan in the making to me

I wish I could read your fanfic but sadly I don't have time to read, especially in English. I have to use google translate when reading or writing a lot  :blush:
Google translate can't possibly be behind your perfect grammar....better than a lot of people I know, just saying.  I'd read it to you but the only Russian I know is "nyet"
Yep! "Goofy" is Discord, "notice me" is Ahuizotl (I can see him stealing stuff just to get in another book about Daring Do. He just looses all the time so why does he try? He wants to be a star! XD), "bad hair day" is Mane-iak. I hope I didn't insult anyone's favourite character, this was supposed to be silly xP
I barely noticed those characters, yes including Q.  I like sweetheart sisters too.  Don't hate the skinny!
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I want more Princess Gold Lily and Princess Sterling toys, they're such pretty unipegs."
Agreed! I thing the fact their wings are different colors from their bodies makes them unique. I've seen people hate them for that.
Who?  sounds like I need them
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 02, 2017, 11:13:59 PM
I think Raindrop is every bit as pretty as Nachtlight and it's kinda sad that she doesn't seem to be as wanted or talked about.

@Lostpony. :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on April 03, 2017, 01:30:02 AM
I pretty much love and appreciate all ponies, all generations. That seems to be quite unusual. I do have my favourites, obviously, but anything pony-shaped reels me in sooner or later. I used not to like seaponies but now I do. I even think BBEs and G3.5 are sweet, and I'm intending to bbuy at least one G4.5.

I REALLY like the G1 ponies with gimmicks. The Sweet Talkin' ponies (I have all three languages!), the roller skate ponies, the incredibly blingy Princess Sparkle, Dance 'n' Prance ponies, Brush 'n' Grow....I just really love them all.

I think Friendship is Magic is a fun kid's cartoon that can be enjoyed for what it is without being analysed to within an inch of its life. That certainly seems to be a rare opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on April 03, 2017, 01:50:53 AM
I could care less if they "look like horses". I have no special preference for horses over other animals and my favorite real animals are cats. I just love fantasy creatures and pastel, vaguely equine things definitely fit the bill.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on April 03, 2017, 02:15:16 AM
I could care less if they "look like horses". I have no special preference for horses over other animals and my favorite real animals are cats. I just love fantasy creatures and pastel, vaguely equine things definitely fit the bill.

True this! If you want replica horses, go buy a Breyer ;  )
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: CustomsRfun on April 03, 2017, 02:25:24 AM
I really, really don't like the Cutie Mark Crusaders.
I find their episode's storylines weak. And their voices makes me cringe.

I also don't like Spike much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 03, 2017, 04:38:00 AM

I dislike the terms alicorn, cutie mark, and putting pony into various words, everypony,somepony, it's forced and sounds lame, not to mention the sheer number of horse puns annoys me. Stop Hasbro. We know they're horses.

But that's the only way we know they're not deer.



*fingers itch to insert a shinto shrine sacred animal comment here...*

Ahem. Resisting. Resisting. Resisted.

Right.

Echoing what people have said about cutie mark, etc. I don't hate G4, but I hate most of it's terminology. And when people use it - especially everypony and cutie-mark - I feel it makes them sound stupid. People here are smart and grown up and capable of using proper words, like everyone and symbol. We're adults. Let's not pretend to be children, especially when talking about ponies that are old enough to be the parents of the ponies that brought those terms into our world.

So yeah. When people use cutie-mark to refer to a G1, I stop taking them seriously as a G1 collector.

I also like SHS.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 03, 2017, 05:10:19 AM
I agree on calling G1 symbols cutie marks. I've seen pony auctions on Ebay that say something like "Vintage 80's ponies, One has purple rain drops for a cutie mark." They should have stuck with symbol instead of Cutie Mark. Cutie mark doesn't sound as grown up to me and should only be used for G4 not G1.

I'm not very fond of Twinkle Eye ponies. I only had two in my childhood ponies and I think there is only one of my wishlist.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 03, 2017, 05:35:21 AM
Well for those of us who dislike the term, we can't blame cutie mark on G4. G3 started that one.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: mlly on April 03, 2017, 06:22:27 AM
When I was still interested in FiM/G4 way back I really was not bothered at all by the Celestia toys being pink (This was back when I still cared about show accuracy mind you) I'm still not. I don't like G4/FiM anymore now but even if I still did, pink Celestia toys still wouldn't bother me.
Which is weird since I'm usually annoyed and aggravated when girl toys force and overuse the color pink, but for some reason, pink Celestia has just never bothered me. :shrug:

The term 'alicorn' has always bugged me too. I think 'pegacorn' makes more sense especially since not everyone is a nerd familiar with D&D terminology :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 03, 2017, 07:37:40 AM
I like Sweetheart Sisters, too! I love how elegant and lithe and pretty they are. I need more of them :P

When I was still interested in FiM/G4 way back I really was not bothered at all by the Celestia toys being pink (This was back when I still cared about show accuracy mind you) I'm still not. I don't like G4/FiM anymore now but even if I still did, pink Celestia toys still wouldn't bother me.
Which is weird since I'm usually annoyed and aggravated when girl toys force and overuse the color pink, but for some reason, pink Celestia has just never bothered me. :shrug:

The term 'alicorn' has always bugged me too. I think 'pegacorn' makes more sense especially since not everyone is a nerd familiar with D&D terminology :P

I didn't really care whether Celestia was pink or white, either. She does look nicer as white, but idk I didn't think it was -that- big a deal. (Also it bothers me how most of the white!Celestia toys overdo her cheek blush..)

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I want more Princess Gold Lily and Princess Sterling toys, they're such pretty unipegs."
Agreed! I thing the fact their wings are different colors from their bodies makes them unique. I've seen people hate them for that.
Who?  sounds like I need them

Princess Sterling:
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Princess Gold Lily (in the back - sorry it's not that good a photo, it's the only one I have of mine ^^;)
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I love them!! Especially Sterling's symbol, it's so pretty and delicate. It reminds me of something from Sailor Moon.

I think Raindrop is every bit as pretty as Nachtlight and it's kinda sad that she doesn't seem to be as wanted or talked about.

I love her, too!! I wish she was more popular. She seems harder to find than Nachtlicht, too, at least for me (though I haven't really been looking for her lately, admittedly - can't afford her atm :P).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: reanna-mator on April 03, 2017, 12:39:16 PM
I like "cutie mark." It makes me think of Animaniacs when Dot used the term. <3
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 03, 2017, 12:58:02 PM
I think country exclusives are prettier by far then some of the variants.

Mountain Boys
Nachtlight and Raindrop
The Seaside Babies
Roller Skate Ponies
Holly Dash
Hip Holly
Cookery Ponies

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I like Sweetheart Sisters, too! I love how elegant and lithe and pretty they are. I need more of them :P

When I was still interested in FiM/G4 way back I really was not bothered at all by the Celestia toys being pink (This was back when I still cared about show accuracy mind you) I'm still not. I don't like G4/FiM anymore now but even if I still did, pink Celestia toys still wouldn't bother me.
Which is weird since I'm usually annoyed and aggravated when girl toys force and overuse the color pink, but for some reason, pink Celestia has just never bothered me. :shrug:

The term 'alicorn' has always bugged me too. I think 'pegacorn' makes more sense especially since not everyone is a nerd familiar with D&D terminology :P

I didn't really care whether Celestia was pink or white, either. She does look nicer as white, but idk I didn't think it was -that- big a deal. (Also it bothers me how most of the white!Celestia toys overdo her cheek blush..)

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I want more Princess Gold Lily and Princess Sterling toys, they're such pretty unipegs."
Agreed! I thing the fact their wings are different colors from their bodies makes them unique. I've seen people hate them for that.
Who?  sounds like I need them

Princess Sterling:
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Princess Gold Lily (in the back - sorry it's not that good a photo, it's the only one I have of mine ^^;)
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I love them!! Especially Sterling's symbol, it's so pretty and delicate. It reminds me of something from Sailor Moon.

I think Raindrop is every bit as pretty as Nachtlight and it's kinda sad that she doesn't seem to be as wanted or talked about.

I love her, too!! I wish she was more popular. She seems harder to find than Nachtlicht, too, at least for me (though I haven't really been looking for her lately, admittedly - can't afford her atm :P).

Your girls are lovely Carrehz.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: preciousstar on April 03, 2017, 02:24:54 PM
i'm not sure whether or not this is an unpopular opinion, but i love the SHS molds, and the colors Hasbro paired them with. they're such dainty "giraffes," as my father used to call them :silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 03, 2017, 02:58:56 PM
Your girls are lovely Carrehz.

Thank you! :*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Heart891011 on April 03, 2017, 03:24:37 PM
I don't like ponies with open mouths and strange poses, however I love the G4.5 ponies with closed mouths standing still
I don't care for sea ponies, so soft, or TAF
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 03, 2017, 04:27:11 PM
Well for those of us who dislike the term, we can't blame cutie mark on G4. G3 started that one.


Really? I thought it started with G4. I missed most of the early G3 stuff and only got back in to ponies around the time the Core 7 started.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 03, 2017, 08:14:00 PM
i'm not sure whether or not this is an unpopular opinion, but i love the SHS molds, and the colors Hasbro paired them with. they're such dainty "giraffes," as my father used to call them :silly:


Aww.  :happy:
 What would he call Creamsicle then?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 03, 2017, 10:15:42 PM
i'm not sure whether or not this is an unpopular opinion, but i love the SHS molds, and the colors Hasbro paired them with. they're such dainty "giraffes," as my father used to call them :silly:


Aww.  :happy:
 What would he call Creamsicle then?

I wondered that too.

Post Merge: April 03, 2017, 10:20:58 PM

I pretty much love and appreciate all ponies, all generations. That seems to be quite unusual. I do have my favourites, obviously, but anything pony-shaped reels me in sooner or later. I used not to like seaponies but now I do. I even think BBEs and G3.5 are sweet, and I'm intending to bbuy at least one G4.5.

I REALLY like the G1 ponies with gimmicks. The Sweet Talkin' ponies (I have all three languages!), the roller skate ponies, the incredibly blingy Princess Sparkle, Dance 'n' Prance ponies, Brush 'n' Grow....I just really love them all.

I think Friendship is Magic is a fun kid's cartoon that can be enjoyed for what it is without being analysed to within an inch of its life. That certainly seems to be a rare opinion.

Sorry Shaz but i agree with you 100% (except I loved seaponies from the first one I held).  Probably not too good for your reputation...

Post Merge: April 03, 2017, 10:42:43 PM

Princess Sterling and Princess Gold Lily are REAL??  NO WAY, MUST HAVE!  How did I not know about this?  I'm neither great nor powerful and yes Taffeta, everypony knows it. :silly:

Were they trying to use up Pinklestia parts after making her white?  (body and wings in pink there). OMG I need that little pink piano too...seems I don't know G4 as well as I thought I did.

Ponyfan, I'm astounded you didn't know G3 had cutie marks...I thought you knew everything pony!  Now, I guess maybe you do...

I think a lot of eBay sellers use "cutie mark" for G1 ponies because they are NOT fans or collectors, just dumping stuff for money.  I buy from members here befroe resorting to eBay for such reasons.

um last thing I can think of, is "alicorn" a DnD term?  I assumed it was coined by FiM.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 04, 2017, 05:13:24 AM
Well for those of us who dislike the term, we can't blame cutie mark on G4. G3 started that one.


Really? I thought it started with G4. I missed most of the early G3 stuff and only got back in to ponies around the time the Core 7 started.


Ponyfan

G3 started it. But G4 made people use it ad nauseum. Though if people want to use it for those generations, it's not an issue to me. I don't like the term but it's when it's used for G1 that I get really twitchy.

*throws custard pies at lostpony*

I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I think that the intonation of German Sweet Talking Pony declaration of love could not be more lacking in love if she tried. Consequently I find it hilarious and thus my German STP is my favourite :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 04, 2017, 05:39:33 AM
There's still a lot I don't know about ponies. :) I knew G3s had cutie marks but I thought they were still being called symbols in G3.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Uninu on April 04, 2017, 05:47:03 AM
I like the eyelash princesses! :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on April 04, 2017, 05:54:29 AM
There's still a lot I don't know about ponies. :) I knew G3s had cutie marks but I thought they were still being called symbols in G3.


Ponyfan

Hasbro coined the term in G3 but it wasn't used widely.  In fact there was some confusion as to whether it was meant to refer to the little hearts that denoted where the magnets where in the early G3 ponies.  The term was never used in any of the media so it didn't gain any traction.

It became popular in G4 because the show uses it as an ongoing plot device.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 04, 2017, 06:37:34 AM
OMG I need that little pink piano too...seems I don't know G4 as well as I thought I did.

The piano came with the wedding castle (the one w/ Shining Armour) :)

Not sure if "alicorn" is a D&D term or not.. I'd always heard it used to refer to unicorn's horns before FiM adopted it as the "official" term for a unicorn w/ wings. I think FiM got it from the fandom but idk where they got it from.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 04, 2017, 07:54:46 AM
OMG I need that little pink piano too...seems I don't know G4 as well as I thought I did.

The piano came with the wedding castle (the one w/ Shining Armour) :)

Not sure if "alicorn" is a D&D term or not.. I'd always heard it used to refer to unicorn's horns before FiM adopted it as the "official" term for a unicorn w/ wings. I think FiM got it from the fandom but idk where they got it from.


I've heard Alicorn being referred to as unicorn people in fiction. (Unfortunate fact, they actually do exist, but it's due to disease.)

And to the Unicorn horn.

Before they were always winged or flying unicorns.

I always called them unipegs as a kid because I believed they had a pegasus and unicorn parent.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 04, 2017, 09:04:17 AM
I know that Piers Anthony used the term "alicorn" for winged unicorns in his Xanth books.  I don't know if he was the first to use it for them or if he got the idea from a different source.  Anyway, it was widely used in the MLP community before G4;  heck, it was widely used during G2.  "Check out this pony I drew, she is an alicorn with a heart symbol", etc.

I like the term alicorn.  "Winged unicorn" seems to downplay the pegasus aspect, implying that being a unicorn is more important.  And the other fan-terms that used to be around just sounded silly IMO.  (Pegacorn sounds like a foot disease.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 04, 2017, 09:08:20 AM
I know that Piers Anthony used the term "alicorn" for winged unicorns in his Xanth books.  I don't know if he was the first to use it for them or if he got the idea from a different source.  Anyway, it was widely used in the MLP community before G4;  heck, it was widely used during G2.  "Check out this pony I drew, she is an alicorn with a heart symbol", etc.

I like the term alicorn.  "Winged unicorn" seems to downplay the pegasus aspect, implying that being a unicorn is more important.  And the other fan-terms that used to be around just sounded silly IMO.  (Pegacorn sounds like a foot disease.)

Horned pegasus then? :silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 04, 2017, 09:09:30 AM
Yes, let the horned pegasus fly free, lol.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 04, 2017, 09:10:30 AM
Yes, let the horned pegasus fly free, lol.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 04, 2017, 10:58:33 AM
Mmmmm custard pie...

Comb my Hayer.  I'm pretty!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 04, 2017, 11:55:46 AM
Mmmmm custard pie...

Comb my Hayer.  I'm pretty!

*Hands lostpony the whip cream and strawberries* Fire away Taffeta!  I want custard pie too! :dribble:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on April 05, 2017, 02:08:30 AM
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I think that the intonation of German Sweet Talking Pony declaration of love could not be more lacking in love if she tried. Consequently I find it hilarious and thus my German STP is my favourite :)

"Ich hab dich lieb!"
Totally agree with this, I love those talking German ponies. Meanwhile the Spanish talking ponies sound very bossy! "Comb my hair! Give me a little kiss! Let's go and play!" Yes, ma'am, right away, ma'am! Demanding little ponies :D

Re alicorns, prior to discovering MLP I had only ever heard alicorn used to refer to the stuff that unicorn horns are made of, so it really grated to hear ponies referred to as alicorns. But what else to call them? Nothing else sounds right.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on April 05, 2017, 03:17:42 AM

Re alicorns, prior to discovering MLP I had only ever heard alicorn used to refer to the stuff that unicorn horns are made of, so it really grated to hear ponies referred to as alicorns. But what else to call them? Nothing else sounds right.

When I was little, my favorite animals were "flying unicorns"  ; )
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SkyCakes on April 05, 2017, 06:14:29 AM
I know that Piers Anthony used the term "alicorn" for winged unicorns in his Xanth books.  I don't know if he was the first to use it for them or if he got the idea from a different source.  Anyway, it was widely used in the MLP community before G4;  heck, it was widely used during G2.  "Check out this pony I drew, she is an alicorn with a heart symbol", etc.

I used to call them unipegs but yeah it sounds weird. I think my dad read some of Piers Anthonys books. I used one as a book report once. Those were the days when I was smitten with unicorns,pegasi, and horses. I like BBE if thats an unpoplar opinion. I love the Eyebrow ponies. I have the full set of Drink N wets. The strange or weird hang out here when it comes to ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 05, 2017, 07:15:32 AM
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I think that the intonation of German Sweet Talking Pony declaration of love could not be more lacking in love if she tried. Consequently I find it hilarious and thus my German STP is my favourite :)

"Ich hab dich lieb!"
Totally agree with this, I love those talking German ponies. Meanwhile the Spanish talking ponies sound very bossy! "Comb my hair! Give me a little kiss! Let's go and play!" Yes, ma'am, right away, ma'am! Demanding little ponies :D

Re alicorns, prior to discovering MLP I had only ever heard alicorn used to refer to the stuff that unicorn horns are made of, so it really grated to hear ponies referred to as alicorns. But what else to call them? Nothing else sounds right.


:haha:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 05, 2017, 07:31:02 AM
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I think that the intonation of German Sweet Talking Pony declaration of love could not be more lacking in love if she tried. Consequently I find it hilarious and thus my German STP is my favourite :)

"Ich hab dich lieb!"
Totally agree with this, I love those talking German ponies. Meanwhile the Spanish talking ponies sound very bossy! "Comb my hair! Give me a little kiss! Let's go and play!" Yes, ma'am, right away, ma'am! Demanding little ponies :D

Re alicorns, prior to discovering MLP I had only ever heard alicorn used to refer to the stuff that unicorn horns are made of, so it really grated to hear ponies referred to as alicorns. But what else to call them? Nothing else sounds right.

No kidding. They're so much fun. The German one sounds kind of...fed up. The Spanish one is super-demanding and the English one sounds like an airhead.
If anyone has not heard these, I have soundbytes on my site here:
http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/1992_sweettalkingponies.htm

I remember inventing a lot of winged unicorn ponies as a child and I used a weird word (I was eight, don't kill me) which was something like "unicus".

If strawberries are involved, I will be keeping them. You can have the custard, but I want the fruit.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 05, 2017, 07:33:18 AM
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I think that the intonation of German Sweet Talking Pony declaration of love could not be more lacking in love if she tried. Consequently I find it hilarious and thus my German STP is my favourite :)

"Ich hab dich lieb!"
Totally agree with this, I love those talking German ponies. Meanwhile the Spanish talking ponies sound very bossy! "Comb my hair! Give me a little kiss! Let's go and play!" Yes, ma'am, right away, ma'am! Demanding little ponies :D

Re alicorns, prior to discovering MLP I had only ever heard alicorn used to refer to the stuff that unicorn horns are made of, so it really grated to hear ponies referred to as alicorns. But what else to call them? Nothing else sounds right.

No kidding. They're so much fun. The German one sounds kind of...fed up. The Spanish one is super-demanding and the English one sounds like an airhead.
If anyone has not heard these, I have soundbytes on my site here:
http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/1992_sweettalkingponies.htm

I remember inventing a lot of winged unicorn ponies as a child and I used a weird word (I was eight, don't kill me) which was something like "unicus".

If strawberries are involved, I will be keeping them. You can have the custard, but I want the fruit.


*Hands over strawberries*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 05, 2017, 07:51:33 AM


*Hands over strawberries*

:D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on April 05, 2017, 02:43:24 PM
Here's one I've never heard others say so I assume it's an unpopular opinion:

I feel that Princess Tiffany, Bridal Beauty, and Pony Bride look out of place due to their realistic color palates, which are in contrast to the whimsical bright colors of the other ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kissthethunder on April 05, 2017, 03:26:46 PM
Here's one I've never heard others say so I assume it's an unpopular opinion:

I feel that Princess Tiffany, Bridal Beauty, and Pony Bride look out of place due to their realistic color palates, which are in contrast to the whimsical bright colors of the other ponies.

wow that's not something I've heard before but thinking of it, I can see how you'd feel that way!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 05, 2017, 03:32:02 PM
Here's one I've never heard others say so I assume it's an unpopular opinion:

I feel that Princess Tiffany, Bridal Beauty, and Pony Bride look out of place due to their realistic color palates, which are in contrast to the whimsical bright colors of the other ponies.

That's a new one on me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 05, 2017, 05:59:12 PM
I wouldn't describe Pony Bride as being "realistic" in any way....
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 06, 2017, 12:01:27 AM
I wouldn't describe Pony Bride as being "realistic" in any way....

:lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khayman81 on April 06, 2017, 12:47:49 AM
They've got tinsel in their hair.... but l can understand why, since they are quite monochromatic.

Regarding the "alicorn" l always called them hybrids. When l was a child l had a fakie baby Pegasus unicorn and l remember calling it either pegasus unicorn either hybrid.

Other thing: l like the rearing pose, too bad there were not more like this. And the firefly pose on the contrary, l am not fan.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 06, 2017, 01:10:51 PM
Quote
Princess of the night, dark design, jealous of her sister, becoming a monster, torturing herself with guilt and threatening to destroy Equestria seem pretty edgy to me :)
Thank you for explaining.  I personally wouldn't find anything really edgy about that myself though, no offense.  It just seems like a "children's show" thing to me;

I hope no one minds me going into detail here, as this is off topic, but to me it feels like this; the night is a beautiful time in my opinion, and I've always felt a bit of a "children's show" feel to night time, for it represents dreams and the stars and moon, which are the perfect settings for a beautiful children's show scene.  I personally never thought she had a dark design, she just has "night time" colors, which again, I find beautiful.  Plenty of the target audience have probably felt jealousy towards their siblings or even other people (jealousy is, at the end of the day such a childish emotion, so it makes sense that children would exhibit it, not that adults are immune to it), so this is probably a relatable thing.  Becoming a monster, I would say is just an exaggerated version of what jealousy can do to you.  It's understandable that she'd feel guilty about it, and I wouldn't find that edgy, just what you'd expect someone to feel.  Finally, she actually tried to rule Equestria, but either way she (as Nightmare Moon) was the villain, so she's bound to do something extreme.

I hope you didn't mind my response, but I'm sorry if you did.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 06, 2017, 02:48:58 PM
I agree with that plus, lots of kids (and adults) have self worth issues and i really like the way Lunas struggle with her identity and the tantabus addresses that subject in a way that could be helpful to some kids (and adults).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Esbayne on April 06, 2017, 04:13:26 PM
I really dislike Pinkie Pie, moreso in G4 but also in G3.

The only ponies I really dislike are G3.5 and G4.5. Other than that, I really love all gens, poses, breeds, genders, etc.

I really like ponies that are frequently disliked. ie Beddy Bye Eyes, Sweetheart Sisters, Eyelash Princessess, even weird ones like Drink n Wets and that strange mommy pony.

I love G3 but it had a lot of very overused color schemes and boring themes. There are TONS of sparkling gems in G3 but a lot are just... Boring. I think when I get my ponies back (they're kind of in storage, I moved out and my mother moved across the country and she has them) I'll thin my G3 herd.

I don't like any of the cartoons, really. I liked them as a kid but not really anymore. ESPECIALLY not the G4 cartoon jesus. I also reallyreallyreally dislike "bronies." I can't stand them. (Not sure that's an unpopular opinion though, lol)

I don't really like Bushwoolies.

A lot of people seem to be disliking the new G4 mers and I think they are absolute r a d as hell, lol!!

Rapunzel is not very pretty imo.

I really hate ponies that talk, walk, sing, dance, etc. I've never liked electronics in toys. The only electronics I really like are light ups. Things that have pushable buttons, pullies, twist things, magnets, etc are totally fine. (Lily Lightly for example is beautiful. She lights up and blinks when you push her button!) Anything battery powered aside from lights is a no, though. xD

I really really do not like Megan or her sister. Or any humans involved, really. I like the monsters or weird creatures or anthro animals, but not humans.

I don't like the term "cutie mark," I still call them symbols.

I like the term alicorn. Also G4 did not coin it. But I also like "winged unicorns."

I don't care how much they look like horses. They never really have... They've looked very "chibi" from the start. Infact, I've never ever called their legs and hooves "legs and hooves." I call them nubbies.
The only thing I care about is the style of how they're done. Like for example, I find G4's style very much less appealing than G1. (I still do like G4, but their heads are weird, I'll admit)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponycake on April 06, 2017, 05:25:23 PM
That reminds me, I don't like the animal friends in g1. What were they called again? None of them are cute to me at all. They seem pretty popular with collectors but I care for them 0%.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 06, 2017, 05:34:05 PM
That reminds me, I don't like the animal friends in g1. What were they called again? None of them are cute to me at all. They seem pretty popular with collectors but I care for them 0%.

Neither do I. Pony Friends and Pretty Pals.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on April 06, 2017, 08:25:19 PM
That reminds me, I don't like the animal friends in g1. What were they called again? None of them are cute to me at all. They seem pretty popular with collectors but I care for them 0%.

I'm with you on this.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 06, 2017, 09:48:55 PM
I'm shocked.  I thought Creamsicle at least was universally loved.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 06, 2017, 10:47:43 PM
I'm shocked.  I thought Creamsicle at least was universally loved.

I don't mind creamsicle or  the few animals that are supposed to have manes. But it just looks silly on those who don't. Like the panda or the moose.

I'm also not willing to pay that price.


I love the Witches from the Volcano and think they're great villains.

I think that Somnambula is a better villain then boring old Tirak.

I think Tirak is overrated.
I like Glass Princess.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 06, 2017, 11:11:34 PM
Is it unpopular to like Glass Princess? 

I loved her instantly even before I saw her magic was real or that she would be a good guy (though I suspected she wasn't really meaning to be a bad guy right from the start).

Best Pig Ever.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on April 06, 2017, 11:33:05 PM
Speaking of pigs, this brings me to another one. I never cared for Munchy the hot dog and hamburger pony. I just look at her and my initial thought is "WTH Hasbro?" She's another one that just seems so out of place.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on April 07, 2017, 04:34:47 AM
I share various "unpopular" opinions that have been mentioned here, but I think I have one really unpopular opinion... :lookround:

I just HATE G4. And G3. And G2. But especially G4. I will not even give them a chance because I don't even acknowledge them as ponies, as they simply aren't (to me). Especially G4 makes me sick (I'm not saying that to be rude, on the contrary, I don't feel comfortable saying out loud here, but since this is the appropriate thread...), the style as well as the whole "fandom". I don't recognise ANYTHING My Little Pony in them. It's just a completely different world, it could be Pony versus Barbie for all I know. And the worst side effect of this fandom is that it's so widely known, even outside the collectors world.

Why does that matter so much? Well, because I used to be that weirdo who collected plastic toy horses. I liked that. Now it's a "thing" to collect ponies, and people don't even picture the right "ponies" when I tell them. So I don't talk about it anymore. I was a proud collector once. :pout:

There. I said it. You can throw tomatoes at me now. :lookround:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 07, 2017, 07:08:42 AM
I love the original MLP the Movie.

I don't like the Firefly pose. It's my least favorite pegasus pose.

I think that G3 pegasus has a nicer wing design then G1. Even as a kid I thought they looked like corn on the cob.

I didn't like G2 at first when I finally saw them, but now I think they're quite pretty and I'd like a few. Pity the ones I want most seem harder to find.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Luxrayx on April 07, 2017, 08:49:24 AM
Definitely not a fan of the G1 wing design. It just looks like a lump of lumps :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on April 07, 2017, 09:31:26 AM
As a kid, I really didn't like ponies that had "human like" symbols.  For example, Speedy really bothered me because her symbol look like skates for humans.  These days I like all G1 incarnations though.

And I loved and still love beddy-bye eyes.  <3
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 07, 2017, 11:42:48 PM
I share various "unpopular" opinions that have been mentioned here, but I think I have one really unpopular opinion... :lookround:

I just HATE G4. And G3. And G2. But especially G4. I will not even give them a chance because I don't even acknowledge them as ponies, as they simply aren't (to me). Especially G4 makes me sick (I'm not saying that to be rude, on the contrary, I don't feel comfortable saying out loud here, but since this is the appropriate thread...), the style as well as the whole "fandom". I don't recognise ANYTHING My Little Pony in them. It's just a completely different world, it could be Pony versus Barbie for all I know. And the worst side effect of this fandom is that it's so widely known, even outside the collectors world.

Why does that matter so much? Well, because I used to be that weirdo who collected plastic toy horses. I liked that. Now it's a "thing" to collect ponies, and people don't even picture the right "ponies" when I tell them. So I don't talk about it anymore. I was a proud collector once. :pout:

There. I said it. You can throw tomatoes at me now. :lookround:

I'm sure you've noticed that's hardly an unpopular opinion around here though maybe you have a more extreme case of your affliction.

That being said, :tomato: :tomato: :tomato: comin at you, i love g4 (and g1 too though)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khayman81 on April 07, 2017, 11:43:10 PM
I share various "unpopular" opinions that have been mentioned here, but I think I have one really unpopular opinion... :lookround:

I just HATE G4. And G3. And G2. But especially G4. I will not even give them a chance because I don't even acknowledge them as ponies, as they simply aren't (to me). Especially G4 makes me sick (I'm not saying that to be rude, on the contrary, I don't feel comfortable saying out loud here, but since this is the appropriate thread...), the style as well as the whole "fandom". I don't recognise ANYTHING My Little Pony in them. It's just a completely different world, it could be Pony versus Barbie for all I know. And the worst side effect of this fandom is that it's so widely known, even outside the collectors world.

Why does that matter so much? Well, because I used to be that weirdo who collected plastic toy horses. I liked that. Now it's a "thing" to collect ponies, and people don't even picture the right "ponies" when I tell them. So I don't talk about it anymore. I was a proud collector once. :pout:

There. I said it. You can throw tomatoes at me now. :lookround:
Yes! Well said! The later versions looked like escaped from the Power Puff girls.... G1 forever !
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 08, 2017, 12:54:08 AM
Rainbow Dash almost didn't escape the Powerpuff Girls in Double Rainboom.  They wanted to keep the cute pony they found.

Yay Bubbles! But not the other two.

Tomatoes for you too Khayman.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on April 08, 2017, 01:42:13 AM
Having said I like all ponies....I have to admit I can't get excited about plushies. I mean, I don't hate them, and I have a couple of TY Rainbow Dashes, but I can't go crazy over them like some people do.

I don't think ponies HAVE to have brushable hair. Sure it's fun, but I like Petites, G3 Ponyville and G4 blindbags just as much as their more hairy counterparts.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on April 08, 2017, 01:47:15 AM
Having said I like all ponies....I have to admit I can't get excited about plushies. I mean, I don't hate them, and I have a couple of TY Rainbow Dashes, but I can't go crazy over them like some people do.

I don't think ponies HAVE to have brushable hair. Sure it's fun, but I like Petites, G3 Ponyville and G4 blindbags just as much as their more hairy counterparts.

i have always been rather dissapointed with mlp plushies : ( i think the BaB stuffies are rather cute though.
just none of them are cute enough!! poniesamore who i believe is here on the arena makes AMAZING plushies, that are so so so cute. so much cuter than any hasbro made plushies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 08, 2017, 03:43:09 AM
That reminds me, I don't like the animal friends in g1. What were they called again? None of them are cute to me at all. They seem pretty popular with collectors but I care for them 0%.

This reminded me of another opinion of mine that probably is unpopular. (I am also not a huge fan of the pony friends, though some of them I do think are cute).

I like the G1 attendants - the dragons, bushwoolies, kittens, etc.

I cannot stand the G4 ones. And the little animals that occasionally appear in G2 and G3. I find them unnecessary and annoying ways for Hasbro to put up the price on their item. I don't know where any of my pets are for my G4 ponies that are loose.

I feel exactly the same way about the small animal friends for the Monster High dolls, so I guess it's this current time period's style of accompanying pet or friend that doesn't appeal to me.

But yeah. I prefer buying G4 ponies that do not have friends with them that are not ponies.

Also, on that same topic - I don't like most if any of the accessories that come with G4 and a lot with G2 and G3 as well. Seriously, some G4 collectors would be horrified by the way I just dump those all in a box and push them away somewhere to be forgotten and lost.

On a slightly different topic - aside the long handled combs and brushes that come with the Brush and Grow etc, all pony combs and brushes are inferior grooming tools to brushes that came with Barbie.

I don't hate G4, but if you gave me a choice between all the G4 ponies in the world or a ratty Peachy, there's not really a contest. I won't let bronyism stop me being a proud collector though ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 08, 2017, 06:48:11 AM
I like Porcina (the pig from "The Glass Princess") well enough but I dislike the episode itself.. although I do have a certain amount of interest in it since it had the song cut from it, and censorship intrigues me. :B

I'm not much of an accessory person, either, unless it's a pet (I'm still looking for Billie's rabbit!!) or something cool like the princesses' damsel hats, Trixiebelle's jester hat and collar, etc.

Having said I like all ponies....I have to admit I can't get excited about plushies. I mean, I don't hate them, and I have a couple of TY Rainbow Dashes, but I can't go crazy over them like some people do.

Yes, me too!! I'm not against them, I do have some, but I def. prefer the "normal" ponies. I don't think the BAB ponies are ~*omg the best thing ever!!*~ either like some people do (though I do like them!! I have some myself! But you know what I mean).

Well, except for BAB Minty. She's pretty awesome :P But then, all Mintys (Minties?) are awesome.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: reanna-mator on April 08, 2017, 07:52:11 AM
Definitely not a fan of the G1 wing design. It just looks like a lump of lumps :P

That sort of bothered me too when I first started collecting G1. XD I'm used to it now, but I definitely like how G4 pegasus wings look, with more detailed feathers.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on April 08, 2017, 01:45:10 PM
Definitely not a fan of the G1 wing design. It just looks like a lump of lumps :P

That sort of bothered me too when I first started collecting G1. XD I'm used to it now, but I definitely like how G4 pegasus wings look, with more detailed feathers.

Ooh I absolutely love g1 wings. I think they look way cuter than the skinny wings g4s have..!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Esbayne on April 08, 2017, 02:49:46 PM
Definitely not a fan of the G1 wing design. It just looks like a lump of lumps :P

That sort of bothered me too when I first started collecting G1. XD I'm used to it now, but I definitely like how G4 pegasus wings look, with more detailed feathers.

Ooh I absolutely love g1 wings. I think they look way cuter than the skinny wings g4s have..!

I actually do really love G1 and G4's wings.
G3 wings I have admit look super bizarre. They don't even look like wings, they look like weird nubbly growths of flesh on their back. xD I love G3 pegs though, even with their strange wings. Snow'El is my fave.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on April 08, 2017, 02:55:08 PM

I actually do really love G1 and G4's wings.
G3 wings I have admit look super bizarre. They don't even look like wings, they look like weird nubbly growths of flesh on their back. xD I love G3 pegs though, even with their strange wings. Snow'El is my fave.

i think the only wings i DONT like are g4.... i think its because they are not stylized!! they look pretty dang close to a cartoon characters feather wings, but g1 and g3 have beautifully unique and stylized wings. g2..lets just not talk about that. i feel like the g4s lack "character" or any sort of ... good design quality in their molds.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 08, 2017, 03:20:32 PM
Definitely not a fan of the G1 wing design. It just looks like a lump of lumps :P

That sort of bothered me too when I first started collecting G1. XD I'm used to it now, but I definitely like how G4 pegasus wings look, with more detailed feathers.

Ooh I absolutely love g1 wings. I think they look way cuter than the skinny wings g4s have..!

I actually do really love G1 and G4's wings.
G3 wings I have admit look super bizarre. They don't even look like wings, they look like weird nubbly growths of flesh on their back. xD I love G3 pegs though, even with their strange wings. Snow'El is my fave.

Snow'El is awfully pretty. Isn't she rare or something? I've never seen her on eBay now that I think of it.

I think Daisy May, Aurora Mist and Twinkle Bloom are severely underrated G3 Pegasus.

I love bushwoolies.

I don't like most of the G3 unicorns, which is weird because they're my favorite species.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Esbayne on April 08, 2017, 05:13:17 PM

I actually do really love G1 and G4's wings.
G3 wings I have admit look super bizarre. They don't even look like wings, they look like weird nubbly growths of flesh on their back. xD I love G3 pegs though, even with their strange wings. Snow'El is my fave.

i think the only wings i DONT like are g4.... i think its because they are not stylized!! they look pretty dang close to a cartoon characters feather wings, but g1 and g3 have beautifully unique and stylized wings. g2..lets just not talk about that. i feel like the g4s lack "character" or any sort of ... good design quality in their molds.


I definitely agree, G4 ponies lack uniqueness and character honestly. I do like their wings though.

Definitely not a fan of the G1 wing design. It just looks like a lump of lumps :P

That sort of bothered me too when I first started collecting G1. XD I'm used to it now, but I definitely like how G4 pegasus wings look, with more detailed feathers.

Ooh I absolutely love g1 wings. I think they look way cuter than the skinny wings g4s have..!

I actually do really love G1 and G4's wings.
G3 wings I have admit look super bizarre. They don't even look like wings, they look like weird nubbly growths of flesh on their back. xD I love G3 pegs though, even with their strange wings. Snow'El is my fave.

Snow'El is awfully pretty. Isn't she rare or something? I've never seen her on eBay now that I think of it.

Is she rare? I'm not entirely sure. I got her for Christmas when I was like 10 or so, I had no idea she was rare. Cool!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 08, 2017, 05:39:18 PM
I'm not sure either. I remember someone saying it took them forever to find her once. Can't remember if it was on the TP or on here.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on April 08, 2017, 05:40:08 PM
I don't know if mine are unpopular:

I dislike all the generation point 5 labels. Gen. 4.5...3.5...meh, it's just annoying IMO.

The term 'brushable' - MLP are supposed to have brushable hair, it's the whole concept, but that cheesy term gets incorporated and constantly pulled into the already existing MLP community. The term comes across as if brushable is some kinda weird offshoot of MLP, like it's unusual for MLP to be brushable. When it's the exact opposite.

The term cutie mark - barfs...enough said.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 08, 2017, 05:44:22 PM
I don't know if mine are unpopular:

I dislike all the generation point 5 labels. Gen. 4.5...3.5...meh, it's just annoying IMO.

The term 'brushable' - MLP are supposed to have brushable hair, it's the whole concept, but that cheesy term gets incorporated and constantly pulled into the already existing MLP community. The term comes across as if brushable is some kinda weird offshoot of MLP, like it's unusual for MLP to be brushable. When it's the exact opposite.

The term cutie mark - barfs...enough said.

I can't stand the term brushables either. To me they're MLPs and any moldeds are McDonalds/tiny tin//blindbag etc.

It seems as if some people are trying to diminish the main line and gimmick. I have seen some people on other sites act like the very idea of MLPs with brushable hair is the worst idea ever.

Why are they buying toys with brushable hair if they hate it so much? It's like purposely buying a model kit and then complaining that it needs to be put together.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 08, 2017, 06:50:27 PM
I hate the way models need to be put together. Ha

I think people who complain about the brushable hair are adverse to the hair play thing...i was like that at first especially with plushes but i like fixing the hair now too especially compared to bad vinyl hair like EG mini Rarity...so cute otherwise even the large head isnt so bad but that HAIR ug but thats probly not unpopular opinion. I like having good vinyl hair and brushable hair toys but i hate them together on same toy just No! I got a g3.5 mcd unfinished custom toola roola with its molded tail cut off and finished cleaning up the flash and stuffed in a short full-size regular tail and it came out really nice.

As far as wings g1 waffles or flyswatters are weird but cool and i like the wings in particular on one of the new Twilight Sparkr sculpts (that has a down-curve to them) and i especially love the unique g3 Starcatcher wings especially once i've curved them a little.

Flutterpony wings are great too cuz you can make or use anything you want and the pony has perfect attachment points. The originals? Never seen any, haha.

As to the rest, i need more tomatoes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 08, 2017, 07:17:28 PM
I hate the way models need to be put together. Ha

I think people who complain about the brushable hair are adverse to the hair play thing...i was like that at first especially with plushes but i like fixing the hair now too especially compared to bad vinyl hair like EG mini Rarity...so cute otherwise even the large head isnt so bad but that HAIR ug but thats probly not unpopular opinion. I like having good vinyl hair and brushable hair toys but i hate them together on same toy just No! I got a g3.5 mcd unfinished custom toola roola with its molded tail cut off and finished cleaning up the flash and stuffed in a short full-size regular tail and it came out really nice.

As far as wings g1 waffles or flyswatters are weird but cool and i like the wings in particular on one of the new Twilight Sparkr sculpts (that has a down-curve to them) and i especially love the unique g3 Starcatcher wings especially once i've curved them a little.

Flutterpony wings are great too cuz you can make or use anything you want and the pony has perfect attachment points. The originals? Never seen any, haha.

As to the rest, i need more tomatoes.

I don't care for model kits either. Money saved! ;)

Haha! Never heard em called waffles or fly swatters before! Too funny!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 08, 2017, 09:51:51 PM
I actually used to love models n i had the USS Constitution that soooo many parts n i worked on it forever n i think i never did finish it. Fragile too, so i reached the point where i more repaired it than made forward progress.

Ponies are better.

Well they look like flyswatters to me. Still lovem tho.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on April 09, 2017, 06:51:00 AM
I always imagine g1 wings are just folded up.  Like swan wings.

http://wallpaper-gallery.net/single/swan/swan-15.html (http://wallpaper-gallery.net/single/swan/swan-15.html)

I really like G4 wings on the regular size ponies.  G3 wings are not my favorite.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on April 09, 2017, 08:16:08 AM
I'm sure you've noticed that's hardly an unpopular opinion around here though maybe you have a more extreme case of your affliction.

That being said, :tomato: :tomato: :tomato: comin at you, i love g4 (and g1 too though)

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Yes! Well said! The later versions looked like escaped from the Power Puff girls.... G1 forever !

High five! :P

The term 'brushable' - MLP are supposed to have brushable hair, it's the whole concept, but that cheesy term gets incorporated and constantly pulled into the already existing MLP community. The term comes across as if brushable is some kinda weird offshoot of MLP, like it's unusual for MLP to be brushable. When it's the exact opposite.

The term cutie mark - barfs...enough said.

This, so much! :iconclap: (Both things!)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: CloudyGlow on April 09, 2017, 08:25:17 AM
I don't think the Surprise Twins Pony is weird. I think it is hilarious.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 09, 2017, 02:57:58 PM
Oh yeah, just remembered something else. I'm not much of a fan of the Funko vinyls. I mean, they're okay, but I never really got all the hype around them. They're all in the same poses! @_@; So boring.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 09, 2017, 03:46:12 PM
"The Glass Princess" is one of my favorite episodes. I never get tired of the pony wash/makeup scene.

I always thought the wings on the Firefly pose were folded also.

Ponyfan

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on April 09, 2017, 06:04:31 PM
Oh yeah, just remembered something else. I'm not much of a fan of the Funko vinyls. I mean, they're okay, but I never really got all the hype around them. They're all in the same poses! @_@; So boring.

 Same here,  I dont hate them but I am just eh not into them.  Also some of the worst paint jobs I have seen on a few dont endear them to me at all. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 09, 2017, 08:15:27 PM
"The Glass Princess" is one of my favorite episodes. I never get tired of the pony wash/makeup scene.

I always thought the wings on the Firefly pose were folded also.

Ponyfan

The forced pony wash scene has to be my favoritest g1 scene of the half of g1 ive seen so far, and the way Gusty looks so defiantly at the raptorians i think is what made me totally love Gusty. And the makeover was soo humiliating. Poor ponies. I dont know how Porcina got tangled up with those creeps.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 10, 2017, 08:42:42 AM
I don't think the Surprise Twins Pony is weird. I think it is hilarious.

That's because it's a missile launcher.

I don't have an issue with brushable as a term because I see it as a distinguisher between small size (brushable) and large size (fashion style) in G4. I never think of the moulded toys as pushing the others out, I just see those two terms as size related. But all hairy. If that doesnt sound wrong, which I think it does.

This is probably a result of living in London and having London kinsfolk, but Snow'el just makes me think of other London dialect phrases that end in 'el(l) and so her name amuses me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 10, 2017, 10:25:23 AM
Mommy Bombs Away and her babies Depth Charge and Torpedo.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 10, 2017, 11:38:34 AM
Mommy Bombs Away and her babies Depth Charge and Torpedo.


:haha:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RainbowQuartz on April 10, 2017, 11:40:00 AM
FiM is the worst. I don't like the toys, I don't like the show, I don't like any of it. EXTREMELY unpopular opinion lol.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 10, 2017, 01:07:00 PM
Taffeta you might have hit on the origin of the term brushable...even Hasbro knew better than to call them hairy.

Rainbow_Quartz thanks for feeding my illusion that your opinion as to G4 is "unpopular".
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RainbowQuartz on April 10, 2017, 03:18:40 PM
Rainbow_Quartz thanks for feeding my illusion that your opinion as to G4 is "unpopular".

I feel like it is (among pony fans I know personally anyway.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on April 10, 2017, 04:07:32 PM
Rainbow_Quartz thanks for feeding my illusion that your opinion as to G4 is "unpopular".

I feel like it is (among pony fans I know personally anyway.)

i think its because this whole "brony" subculture literally came from g4 so like, theres a higher percentage of people who are actively into it who would probably try to fight you on the internet if you said you didnt like it. i personally love all gens~ ponies are ponies. theres no reason to hate g4 just cause its new. a lot of bronies hate g1-3 because they love g4, but a lot of people who love g1-3 and hate g4 are real "first generationers" to use pokemon terms. people who think it just can't get any better than gen 1, but in reality, the newer gens are just as good or lacking in creativity as their predecessors.
i don't care for g4 toys. i wish the quality was better, its like all the good toys were made in the 1980s, and now everything is about as producing as much as possible for as little as possible.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ColdRuru on April 10, 2017, 04:28:02 PM
I personnaly, do LOVE G1 as toys, they are really the less close to a PONY (not a horse) and with quality work on them. But... I really really do not love the cartoon. Maybe because I doesn't have seen it as a kid, but I thinks the animation is lame and the stories really pointless. BUT I assume it's my own opinion.
As much as I do LOVE FIM as a cartoon, really making me laugh and enjoy my time, but the toys are... not really my cup of tea. Must admit, I'm quite happy with the reboot, at least the ponies seems to be living (not this unique posture, ghh x1000).

So you know, we can't love everything about a thing, but in the whole global, we love ponies ou way and that's the most important :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 10, 2017, 04:34:10 PM
Unpopular opinion:  The "noodle legs" people complain about on the latest G4 ponies . . . make them look more like real horses than previous G4s.  Real horses have skinny legs in proportion to their bodies.

Also, I don't know if this is unpopular or not, but I feel that G3 had the best ears.  I like them better than the G1 triangle.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on April 10, 2017, 04:35:45 PM
Also, I don't know if this is unpopular or not, but I feel that G3 had the best ears.  I like them better than the G1 triangle.

this is such a good comment. the best ears
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kissthethunder on April 10, 2017, 05:22:11 PM
Unpopular opinion:  The "noodle legs" people complain about on the latest G4 ponies . . . make them look more like real horses than previous G4s.  Real horses have skinny legs in proportion to their bodies.

Also, I don't know if this is unpopular or not, but I feel that G3 had the best ears.  I like them better than the G1 triangle.

I think its less the skinniness and more the bend of it that bothers me personally. How its an odd curve rather than a joint. I call it rubber hose limbs personally.

G3 bar none had the absolute cutest ears! G1's I adore but the triangle ears were more like cat ears than horse ears.

Maybe we can just agree cartoon horses don't have to resemble real horse too closely?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 10, 2017, 05:41:06 PM
I love all the different ears but in particular g1s ears. They are the most ear-y.

Its taken me a while to get used to hooves being more implied than expressly drawn but thats an mlp signature feature except (some) males and g2s that have more hoof detail and i like that.

A lot of people like the g1 toys and the g4 show so that's not unpopular.

Unfortunately i feel loving all gens both toys and shows seems much less popular than i'd like it to be. I love them all and the new sculpts are making me appreciate even the boring old g4s more (the raised-leg variant being pretty good actually). The guardians of harmony toys are really great (though not hairy) and i cant wait for the fancy multiply-jointed-wing hippogrif one; it looks so great!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 10, 2017, 06:07:12 PM
Unpopular opinion:  The "noodle legs" people complain about on the latest G4 ponies . . . make them look more like real horses than previous G4s.  Real horses have skinny legs in proportion to their bodies.

Also, I don't know if this is unpopular or not, but I feel that G3 had the best ears.  I like them better than the G1 triangle.

Yeah but they also have bones and joints. Even older gens, both in animation and toy form have knees.

I love G3 ears too. I also think they have more cheerful expressions then G1s. The G1s have this sweet, gentle face, while G3s have a livelier look.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Esbayne on April 10, 2017, 08:37:16 PM
Rainbow_Quartz thanks for feeding my illusion that your opinion as to G4 is "unpopular".

I feel like it is (among pony fans I know personally anyway.)

i think its because this whole "brony" subculture literally came from g4 so like, theres a higher percentage of people who are actively into it who would probably try to fight you on the internet if you said you didnt like it. i personally love all gens~ ponies are ponies. theres no reason to hate g4 just cause its new. a lot of bronies hate g1-3 because they love g4, but a lot of people who love g1-3 and hate g4 are real "first generationers" to use pokemon terms. people who think it just can't get any better than gen 1, but in reality, the newer gens are just as good or lacking in creativity as their predecessors.
i don't care for g4 toys. i wish the quality was better, its like all the good toys were made in the 1980s, and now everything is about as producing as much as possible for as little as possible.

Agreed 100% to Orangepeachmango and Rainbowquartz.



What's with all the lowkey snarkiness being thrown around in this thread?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: goddessofpeep on April 10, 2017, 08:57:51 PM
I never liked boy ponies - any of them. I don't collect them. No Big Brothers, no Baby Brothers, and no Mountain Boys.  More for everyone else I guess!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponycake on April 10, 2017, 09:02:59 PM
I never liked boy ponies - any of them. I don't collect them. No Big Brothers, no Baby Brothers, and no Mountain Boys.  More for everyone else I guess!

Oh yeah, can't believe I didn't think of that one. Me either. They seem so popular, I've never liked them at all. The Mountain Boys are the worst I think. I do not like their designs at all. Bad colors.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 10, 2017, 09:25:46 PM
theres no reason to hate g4 just cause its new. a lot of bronies hate g1-3 because they love g4, but a lot of people who love g1-3 and hate g4 are real "first generationers" to use pokemon terms. people who think it just can't get any better than gen 1, but in reality, the newer gens are just as good or lacking in creativity as their predecessors.


I think this comment is as problematic as the comments people make about hating this or that generation. This thread is an unpopular opinion thread, though, so chances are opinions will come up that will upset some people. It's the nature of the thread and surprising that it hasn't gone into flaming so far.

But I am going to stick my neck out here and I'm going to say that it's fine to hate any element of MLP that you choose. But when you create categories into which you lump groups of collectors indiscriminately, you risk problems. As we all know, not all G4 fans are bronies. Not all G1 fans hate G4. But if they do, so what? It's not really a rule that they have to like or accept any later generation if they don't want to.

Disliking another generation doesn't make you mean or nasty. The key is not about liking or disliking ponies, but about being respectful to the fans of those ponies you dislike.

I have some of all the generations, but those I consider my collection are my G1. This is because I grew up with them. Because of that, I consider them the best generation. That doesn't mean I disrespect the others, or the people who collect them/love them/grew up with them. So long as nobody is flaming at me for loving G1, I couldn't care less what other people are into. And I think that's what really matters. Not what your preferences are, but how/if you impose those on other people like they're the only way of looking at it.

Very importantly, too - your best friend in the pony community isn't necessarily the one who collects exactly the same as you - the one who loves the same things as you might be the person you hate most. (I had that experience a long time back with Italian ponies, when it turned out that the other person at the time really into Italian ponies was also one of the most evil people the pony community ever had the misery to spawn)

I don't think it's natural or necessary to imply everyone should love all ponies if they don't want to. But everyone should treat all generations with equal respect. Do as you would be done unto, because ponies may be plastic but people aren't. Something like that.

I like G1 best but I am still travelling around Japan with a little G4 fluttershy that my sister bought me, and every night I check to make sure she is safely back in the bag because she's special and I would hate to lose her. She's special not because of what generation she is, but because she was bought for me by someone I'm close to, as a mascot for my journey. The reason this Fluttershy is my travel companion is because she reminded my sister of a G1 pony I had had as a child who was supposed to be able to grant wishes. I had her when our mother was ill, and I chose her because I thought she would bring good luck. So because of that G1 and childhood memory, Naynie bought Fluttershy for me, and because of that Fluttershy is with me everywhere I go in Japan, making memories that I send home.

So I'm a G1 collector and I will always love them best. But that doesn't make me a "first generationer". These ugly generalisations don't actually apply to all or even most collectors, some of whom have been here for two decades doing this and have seen all the generations come and go.

I think we should have got to the point where we stop labelling each other and just get on with it now. I mean, seriously. The ponies don't know if you don't buy them, and if someone doesn't want to, that means someone else has the opportunity.

tl:dr - I guess my unpopular opinion here is that people should stop worrying what other people like/dislike and just worry about what they like/dislike instead.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 10, 2017, 09:47:35 PM
Kingsly,

If you are referring to me it's my attempts at humor and meant with good intentions. I don't mean to be snarky.

If you mean someone else i didn't notice; i thought we were all getting along pretty well and i'm enjoying finding out everypony's opinions. There's bound to be disagreement and cross-talk in a topic titled "unpopular opinions", no?

Hey back on topic, i bet more people dislike the anypony/everypony thing than like it so i bet my enjoyment of same constitutes an unpopular pony opinion. Yay! I got another one.

Taffeta, i dont think orangepeachmango meant to catgorize or generalize people but eas just postulating a few examples and i think what was meant was closer to what you said.

Fluttershy is the Worst G4 Pony ever, haha not really but i dont like her meekness/aggression, its a bad stereotype/example but yours is very special and is a good example of how its no one's business what you like or dislike or why.  Of course, an example of why its cool to hear what others like/dislike that's "unpopular" is to help find others who share your preferences, and also to know how to avoid stepping on anypony's toes :silly: #ducks and looks for the custard pies

Edit:  What I meant to say is while I am not fond of Fluttershy as a character in the show, I particularly enjoy all ponies given as special gifts and I am grateful when they are shared for the rest of us to enjoy.  I wholeheartedly apologize to Taffeta and anyone else who might have interpreted my hasty wording to mean anything different.  I meant both that, and the little tease about being annoyed by "-pony" suffix, with the utmost respect to Taffeta and her wonderful gifted Fluttershy. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 10, 2017, 11:15:57 PM

Fluttershy is the Worst G4 Pony ever, haha not really but i dont like her meekness/aggression, its a bad stereotype/example but yours is very special and is a good example of how its no one's business what you like or dislike or why.  Of course, an example of why its cool to hear what others like/dislike that's "unpopular" is to help find others who share your preferences, and also to know how to avoid stepping on anypony's toes :silly: #ducks and looks for the custard pies

I realise this was a joke, but I can't see the purpose in saying it. Even as a joke. I know you were spoofing up the thread, but singling out my travel pony in order to prove the point kind of fell flat and sounded more like you were making fun of/attacking her rather than making a general joke about dislikes and likes. Maybe needed different phrasing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 11, 2017, 06:54:22 AM
Taffeta you might have hit on the origin of the term brushable...even Hasbro knew better than to call them hairy.

Rainbow_Quartz thanks for feeding my illusion that your opinion as to G4 is "unpopular".

My little hairy,
My little hairy
What will today's adventure be?

Their main enemies can be barbers, a magically animated pair of scissors, and an angry bottle of gel.

Post Merge: April 11, 2017, 06:57:20 AM

I never liked boy ponies - any of them. I don't collect them. No Big Brothers, no Baby Brothers, and no Mountain Boys.  More for everyone else I guess!

Well, if you ever get any in a lot, send em my way.  :devious:

Post Merge: April 11, 2017, 07:01:09 AM

theres no reason to hate g4 just cause its new. a lot of bronies hate g1-3 because they love g4, but a lot of people who love g1-3 and hate g4 are real "first generationers" to use pokemon terms. people who think it just can't get any better than gen 1, but in reality, the newer gens are just as good or lacking in creativity as their predecessors.


I think this comment is as problematic as the comments people make about hating this or that generation. This thread is an unpopular opinion thread, though, so chances are opinions will come up that will upset some people. It's the nature of the thread and surprising that it hasn't gone into flaming so far.

But I am going to stick my neck out here and I'm going to say that it's fine to hate any element of MLP that you choose. But when you create categories into which you lump groups of collectors indiscriminately, you risk problems. As we all know, not all G4 fans are bronies. Not all G1 fans hate G4. But if they do, so what? It's not really a rule that they have to like or accept any later generation if they don't want to.

Disliking another generation doesn't make you mean or nasty. The key is not about liking or disliking ponies, but about being respectful to the fans of those ponies you dislike.

I have some of all the generations, but those I consider my collection are my G1. This is because I grew up with them. Because of that, I consider them the best generation. That doesn't mean I disrespect the others, or the people who collect them/love them/grew up with them. So long as nobody is flaming at me for loving G1, I couldn't care less what other people are into. And I think that's what really matters. Not what your preferences are, but how/if you impose those on other people like they're the only way of looking at it.

Very importantly, too - your best friend in the pony community isn't necessarily the one who collects exactly the same as you - the one who loves the same things as you might be the person you hate most. (I had that experience a long time back with Italian ponies, when it turned out that the other person at the time really into Italian ponies was also one of the most evil people the pony community ever had the misery to spawn)

I don't think it's natural or necessary to imply everyone should love all ponies if they don't want to. But everyone should treat all generations with equal respect. Do as you would be done unto, because ponies may be plastic but people aren't. Something like that.

I like G1 best but I am still travelling around Japan with a little G4 fluttershy that my sister bought me, and every night I check to make sure she is safely back in the bag because she's special and I would hate to lose her. She's special not because of what generation she is, but because she was bought for me by someone I'm close to, as a mascot for my journey. The reason this Fluttershy is my travel companion is because she reminded my sister of a G1 pony I had had as a child who was supposed to be able to grant wishes. I had her when our mother was ill, and I chose her because I thought she would bring good luck. So because of that G1 and childhood memory, Naynie bought Fluttershy for me, and because of that Fluttershy is with me everywhere I go in Japan, making memories that I send home.

So I'm a G1 collector and I will always love them best. But that doesn't make me a "first generationer". These ugly generalisations don't actually apply to all or even most collectors, some of whom have been here for two decades doing this and have seen all the generations come and go.

I think we should have got to the point where we stop labelling each other and just get on with it now. I mean, seriously. The ponies don't know if you don't buy them, and if someone doesn't want to, that means someone else has the opportunity.

tl:dr - I guess my unpopular opinion here is that people should stop worrying what other people like/dislike and just worry about what they like/dislike instead.

Well said Taffeta and the reasons for your sister buying you Fluttershy as a travel companion are really sweet.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 11, 2017, 10:27:41 AM
Sorry Taffeta i wasnt joking you about fluttershy but only about the -pony suffix.

My general dislike of fluttershy as a character is an unpopular opinion i think among those who love FiM and i meant to acknowledge that yours is very special because she was a special gift. I have a pony like that too for the same reason. Also she looks good in that rainbow magic version and i love your current avatar image of her posed with the cherry blossom.

Sorry i tangled that up but im absolutely not attacking your fluttershy and only singling her out as a very special gift pony that is well loved for reasons i feel too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on April 11, 2017, 10:47:28 AM
I have seen virulent new Gen hate come from a handful of old school pony fans since I joined this board. It isn't the majority but it's there every time MLP changes. It happened when G3.5 came out, it happened when G4 came out, and it happened with the most recent change. This thread is a safe place and all so it doesn't bother me as much here but it sometimes makes me sad to hear something I like called "ugly".
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 11, 2017, 11:00:20 AM
I have seen virulent new Gen hate come from a handful of old school pony fans since I joined this board. It isn't the majority but it's there every time MLP changes. It happened when G3.5 came out, it happened when G4 came out, and it happened with the most recent change. This thread is a safe place and all so it doesn't bother me as much here but it sometimes makes me sad to hear something I like called "ugly".

I feel ya on that, even if it's in reverse.


Another unpopular opinion of mine is that I'm not too fussed about getting accessories with a few exceptions.


Just out of curiosity, has there ever been a Popular Pony Opinions thread?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kissthethunder on April 11, 2017, 12:09:08 PM
Here's to having a thread where people can express themselves and work out miscommunications with maturity <3 Really proud to be on a pony board where people can communicate this well!

Also, a popular opinions thread would be fun!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 11, 2017, 12:38:04 PM
 :beerchug: Cheers!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 11, 2017, 12:44:16 PM
As much as i firmly believe we all should love all pony regardless of generation, i also feel we should be and are free to dislike whatever we dislike too. What's important is to not dislike those who like what we dislike. We're not all the same and thats a great thing.

I feel a bit green-eggs-n-ham about those who wont give new gens a chance but, unlike in Dr Suess, i dont think anyone really likes to be Sam-I-am'ed about it.

LaW, what is the reverse exactly? That it makes you ugly to hear something called sad? :silly:

(Thats a joke by the way, my last one missed the mark, sorry again about that)  Other than my lame attempts to get a few laughs i think this thread has been a nice place to discuss pony opinions without any ugly.

So who's gonna start the popular pony opinions thread? Or maybe the op feels like updating this one so we can compare and contrast and keep it fresh before we end up "going around in circles" as it is so tactfully sometimes put. I bet when we examine them closely, some popular opinions might turn out to be less popular than we assume.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on April 11, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
I always thought that Hasbro should make a line of ponies that looked like the designs from Rescue at Midnight Castle.  Glory was my favorite in that movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 11, 2017, 01:28:13 PM
As much as i firmly believe we all should love all pony regardless of generation, i also feel we should be and are free to dislike whatever we dislike too. What's important is to not dislike those who like what we dislike. We're not all the same and thats a great thing.

I feel a bit green-eggs-n-ham about those who wont give new gens a chance but, unlike in Dr Suess, i dont think anyone really likes to be Sam-I-am'ed about it.

LaW, what is the reverse exactly? That it makes you ugly to hear something called sad? :silly:

(Thats a joke by the way, my last one missed the mark, sorry again about that)  Other than my lame attempts to get a few laughs i think this thread has been a nice place to discuss pony opinions without any ugly.

So who's gonna start the popular pony opinions thread? Or maybe the op feels like updating this one so we can compare and contrast and keep it fresh before we end up "going around in circles" as it is so tactfully sometimes put. I bet when we examine them closely, some popular opinions might turn out to be less popular than we assume.


Don't make me come over to your house with green eggs n ham Sam! I'll dye them so green the grass will feel embarrassed! ;)

I meant it bugs me when newer fans call older gens ugly.

I dunno who should start the popular pony opinions thread. We can always paper scissors rock for it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 11, 2017, 02:35:04 PM
Sorry Taffeta i wasnt joking you about fluttershy but only about the -pony suffix.

My general dislike of fluttershy as a character is an unpopular opinion i think among those who love FiM and i meant to acknowledge that yours is very special because she was a special gift. I have a pony like that too for the same reason. Also she looks good in that rainbow magic version and i love your current avatar image of her posed with the cherry blossom.

Sorry i tangled that up but im absolutely not attacking your fluttershy and only singling her out as a very special gift pony that is well loved for reasons i feel too.

It's okay, I knew you were joking. I just wanted to point up the fact that it didn't quite work in a way that wasn't flamey. Fluttsi forgives you. (She actually hasn't been called Fluttershy since pretty muchthe day I got her, since we renamed her Flutter Magic at that point and now she's known between sister and I as Fluttsi. I still intend to post a brief account of her adventures on here when I get home and have proper time to do it).

Also you are forgiven because you not only knew which g1 pony, you got her UK name right as well :)

Digressing.

Going back on topic.

I'm not a huge fan of G4 animation, but I have to admit that I find the EQG animation more watchable than the basic FIM. I think it's largely on account of Sunset Shimmer, plus the fact Rainbow Rocks was essentially Jem rehashed...but I am pretty sure that is an unpopular opinion.

I also don't like G3/4 Minty, nor do I consider her the cornerstone posterpony of G3. That dislike goes back to when G3 first came out and she was in that duck-pose. I also am not a fan of her colour scheme. I have absolutely zero understanding why people are so keen/were so excited to see her appear in G4. While we're on the Minty subject, I'm also not a fan too much of the G1 pony. The collector ponies bar Cotton Candy and Blossom were largely irrelevant here in stories and Minty isn't even the right colour in the Fact File. I would have liked her better had she been the purple and white pony pictured in that than what she really turned out to be.

Further to this I am not obsessed with pale green ponies and I genuinely don't understand why so many people are.

Additionally, I still resent Hasbro for ruining the G3 season ponies by insisting on rehashing them as freebies with other sets and then topping it all off by producing Crystal Crown as a very poor imitation of Winter Snow. The one really nice set the UK and Europe had was totally the victim of commercialism. And I still hate and won't own a Crystal Crown to this day.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on April 11, 2017, 09:21:02 PM

Another unpopular opinion of mine is that I'm not too fussed about getting accessories with a few exceptions.


I'm the same way. I don't care about accessories. The exceptions for me would be things like the dragons, bushwoolies, etc....
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 12, 2017, 07:56:57 AM

Another unpopular opinion of mine is that I'm not too fussed about getting accessories with a few exceptions.


I'm the same way. I don't care about accessories. The exceptions for me would be things like the dragons, bushwoolies, etc....

I am the ultimate accessory hypocrite, because I will go all out to get accessories for like a month or two, then get disenchanted with prices and fiddly pieces and give up and decide I don't care...and then something will trigger me off again. At the moment I am in a don't care mode. Last summer, though, I completed the pretty pals and most of the newborn twins (sigh).

So my unpopular opinion on accessories seems to be not having a stable opinion on them at all ><
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Luxrayx on April 12, 2017, 01:00:51 PM
Just my personal, unpopular opinion:
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Tirak looks like he has a huuge butt  :lookround:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 12, 2017, 01:20:33 PM
Goes with above spoiler
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cuz I like, ....big, ...butts!   and I cannot lie
to quote the Humpty Hump.
Never noticed Tirek's big butt, I was too busy trying to figure out why he needed ponies when he just transforms them anyway.
Looks like what he shoulda been worried about was a better-fitting throne, no wonder he was cranky.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 12, 2017, 01:51:34 PM
A lot of people seem to place #2 on the list of best G1 villains (after Tirek of course, lol).  Unpopular opinion:  I don't think he's very impressive at all.  The idea of Tambelon and a kingdom that's stuck in a dimension for a long time, I like that.  The unicorns getting stuck there while winking, I like that. Buttons' dream message, I like that. But Grogar himself has no presence and his design is just kind of . . . there.  "Yep, I sure am a sheep or goat a-wearing a collar. I got defeated by a magic bell that I placed so carelessly that the ponies found it before they even escaped."
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on April 12, 2017, 01:55:53 PM
Just my personal, unpopular opinion:
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Tirak looks like he has a huuge butt  :lookround:

im dyin where are his back legs?????
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on April 12, 2017, 02:56:47 PM
A lot of people seem to place #2 on the list of best G1 villains (after Tirek of course, lol).  Unpopular opinion:  I don't think he's very impressive at all.  The idea of Tambelon and a kingdom that's stuck in a dimension for a long time, I like that.  The unicorns getting stuck there while winking, I like that. Buttons' dream message, I like that. But Grogar himself has no presence and his design is just kind of . . . there.  "Yep, I sure am a sheep or goat a-wearing a collar. I got defeated by a magic bell that I placed so carelessly that the ponies found it before they even escaped."

I agree. Grogar had the potential to be another creepy villain, like Tirek, Somnambula, or Crunch. But he really fell short.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 12, 2017, 04:29:53 PM
Just my personal, unpopular opinion:
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Tirak looks like he has a huuge butt  :lookround:

:lmao:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Prince Primbrose on April 12, 2017, 04:41:58 PM
I also don't care about accessories- brushes, ribbons, pets, playsets... I'm not interested in them.

Also... I really dislike the Cutie Mark Crusaders. I recently rewatched the first few seasons of FIM and am now catching up on what I hadn't seen before; I had to skip all the CMC episodes and now I suffer through every new one. I just don't like their storylines at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 12, 2017, 05:20:26 PM
It took me a long time to like them just because of the word "cutie mark"

Their best episode is Cutie Mark Crusaders but mostly because of Diamond Tiara's whose voice is soooo good that episode.

Is it unpopular to really, really like Diamond Tiara, both as a failed bully and even more as a reformed good guy?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kissthethunder on April 12, 2017, 05:36:29 PM
It took me a long time to like them just because of the word "cutie mark"

Their best episode is Cutie Mark Crusaders but mostly because of Diamond Tiara's whose voice is soooo good that episode.

Is it unpopular to really, really like Diamond Tiara, both as a failed bully and even more as a reformed good guy?


Maybe but I'm with you on that one. That was a good episode and it was because of how Diamond Tiara was handled
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 12, 2017, 06:02:06 PM
Aside from the pilot thats my most favoritest episode.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 13, 2017, 02:15:29 PM
whoops, posted this in the wrong thread the first time ^^;;

I like Diamond Tiara, and Silver Spoon, from the little I've seen of them in the cartoons :) But I've always liked valley girls for some reason, haha.

A lot of people seem to place #2 on the list of best G1 villains (after Tirek of course, lol).  Unpopular opinion:  I don't think he's very impressive at all.  The idea of Tambelon and a kingdom that's stuck in a dimension for a long time, I like that.  The unicorns getting stuck there while winking, I like that. Buttons' dream message, I like that. But Grogar himself has no presence and his design is just kind of . . . there.  "Yep, I sure am a sheep or goat a-wearing a collar. I got defeated by a magic bell that I placed so carelessly that the ponies found it before they even escaped."

Yes, this!! Grogar's alright but I've never thought he was quite as awesome as a lot of people make him out to be. (I don't think Tambelon is one of the ~*absolute best episodes*~ either. It is a good one but I don't like it quite as much as everyone else seems to, if that makes sense?)

Speaking of the cartoon, I love The End of Flutter Valley. That seems to be a pretty unpopular opinion around here ^^; I like "Bright Lights" too, dunno how popular that one is..

I think we should have got to the point where we stop labelling each other and just get on with it now. I mean, seriously. The ponies don't know if you don't buy them, and if someone doesn't want to, that means someone else has the opportunity.

tl:dr - I guess my unpopular opinion here is that people should stop worrying what other people like/dislike and just worry about what they like/dislike instead.

Here, here!! People need stop worrying about what other people think about a lot of things, I think, not just ponies :) Just focus on what _you_ like, don't worry about everyone else all the time.

Mommy Bombs Away and her babies Depth Charge and Torpedo.

XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on April 13, 2017, 02:21:53 PM
Speaking of the cartoon, I love The End of Flutter Valley. That seems to be a pretty unpopular opinion around here ^^; I like "Bright Lights" too, dunno how popular that one is..


I always wondered why they never made a Night Shade toy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 13, 2017, 03:20:03 PM
Speaking of the cartoon, I love The End of Flutter Valley. That seems to be a pretty unpopular opinion around here ^^; I like "Bright Lights" too, dunno how popular that one is..


I always wondered why they never made a Night Shade toy.

Me too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 13, 2017, 04:07:20 PM
Nightshade didn't get a toy because the G1 cartoons didn't influence the G1 toyline at all.  It would have been impractical for Hasbro and Sunbow to coordinate in-depth. 

Remember that at the time the only ways to communicate were:

- physical letters
- the phone (and long-distance phone calls were expensive)
- meeting face-to-face (Sunbow was in NY, Hasbro was in Rhode Island, and the writers were scattered all over, they just mailed in their scripts.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shiverdam on April 13, 2017, 05:20:58 PM
I really don't like Starlight Glimmer. I could say I hate her, in fact. No part of me believes she could ever be fully reformed. I still believe she's just secretly masquerading under the guise of being a good guy just to learn all the ins and outs of the Mane 6 and eventually exploit their weaknesses so she may take over the world.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 13, 2017, 05:51:02 PM
I think the Fancy Mermaid ponies are cute.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 13, 2017, 08:15:07 PM
Oh, a Knight Shade toy would be awesome. (I wish they'd been consistent with how they spelt his name! >_< The episode spells it "Night Shade" and "Knight Shade".. I hate it when there's multiple official ways of spelling something. /ramble) I've seen some lovely customs of him, it would've been great if they had made an official one for him..
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: dragonfly on April 13, 2017, 08:32:22 PM
I think the Fancy Mermaid ponies are cute.

Ponyfan
wait, whut? This is an unpopular opinion? I'm with Ponyfan!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 13, 2017, 08:38:03 PM
I think the Fancy Mermaid ponies are cute.

Ponyfan

I used to not like them. But now I think they're so adorable. Especially Baby Pearly. :lovey:

Plus the details on their scales are great! I want one now.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Esbayne on April 13, 2017, 08:47:24 PM
End of Flutter Valley is upopular? whaaaa

That was actually the G1 movie I grew up on. G3 were my childhood ponies, but I bought 3 G2 myself and my aunt gave me all her childhood G1 ponies. When I was really young, like 6 or 7, we were at Toys R Us and she saw a G1 DVD and bought it for me, it was that movie. It was the first G1 movie I'd ever seen and I really loved it at the time.

I watched a few years later and realized it was pretty terribly done. Lmao. That bee dude and Morning Glory would switch voices constantly! It was cringy yet hilarious to hear some gruff scratchy bee dude voice coming out of a dainty little flutter pony.

Post Merge: April 13, 2017, 08:49:22 PM

I think the Fancy Mermaid ponies are cute.

Ponyfan
wait, whut? This is an unpopular opinion? I'm with Ponyfan!

Wait, also what? I totally thought the mers were loved! They're so cute. I've always wanted one.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 13, 2017, 09:44:29 PM
End of Flutter Valley is upopular? whaaaa

That was actually the G1 movie I grew up on. G3 were my childhood ponies, but I bought 3 G2 myself and my aunt gave me all her childhood G1 ponies. When I was really young, like 6 or 7, we were at Toys R Us and she saw a G1 DVD and bought it for me, it was that movie. It was the first G1 movie I'd ever seen and I really loved it at the time.

I watched a few years later and realized it was pretty terribly done. Lmao. That bee dude and Morning Glory would switch voices constantly! It was cringy yet hilarious to hear some gruff scratchy bee dude voice coming out of a dainty little flutter pony.

Post Merge: April 13, 2017, 08:49:22 PM

I think the Fancy Mermaid ponies are cute.

Ponyfan
wait, whut? This is an unpopular opinion? I'm with Ponyfan!

Wait, also what? I totally thought the mers were loved! They're so cute. I've always wanted one.

Actually it kind of is.  It drags on Forever!!!  Even as a couch potato kid, I got up to go play.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 13, 2017, 09:56:41 PM
I really don't like Starlight Glimmer. I could say I hate her, in fact. No part of me believes she could ever be fully reformed. I still believe she's just secretly masquerading under the guise of being a good guy just to learn all the ins and outs of the Mane 6 and eventually exploit their weaknesses so she may take over the world.

Ssssssh! You're giving away the Season 7 finale.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on April 13, 2017, 10:57:46 PM
Nightshade didn't get a toy because the G1 cartoons didn't influence the G1 toyline at all.  It would have been impractical for Hasbro and Sunbow to coordinate in-depth. 

Remember that at the time the only ways to communicate were:

- physical letters
- the phone (and long-distance phone calls were expensive)
- meeting face-to-face (Sunbow was in NY, Hasbro was in Rhode Island, and the writers were scattered all over, they just mailed in their scripts.)

I wonder if anyone has ever made a Nightshade custom. Personally, I never cared for a Michael Jackson inspired pony, but I'm sure there are quite a few people who liked the idea.

"Do the moonwalk, ponies. Put that sparkle in your shoes. Do the moonwalk, ponies. And you'll never get the blues."
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 14, 2017, 05:28:16 AM
I watched a few years later and realized it was pretty terribly done. Lmao. That bee dude and Morning Glory would switch voices constantly! It was cringy yet hilarious to hear some gruff scratchy bee dude voice coming out of a dainty little flutter pony.

Morning Glory and Sting never switch voices, at least not to my knowledge. (They did swap Rosedust and Honeysuckle's voices at one point, though - or more accurately they swapped their colours by mistake)

I wonder if anyone has ever made a Nightshade custom.

Here's a couple I foundj :)

http://www.mlptp.net/index.php?threads/ptvs-dazzle-interviews-knight-shade.63987/
http://www.mlptp.net/index.php?threads/knight-shade-for-auction.90362/
http://www.mlparena.com/archive/Forums/viewtopic/p=3252585.html
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 14, 2017, 06:19:11 AM
Nightshade didn't get a toy because the G1 cartoons didn't influence the G1 toyline at all.  It would have been impractical for Hasbro and Sunbow to coordinate in-depth. 

Remember that at the time the only ways to communicate were:

- physical letters
- the phone (and long-distance phone calls were expensive)
- meeting face-to-face (Sunbow was in NY, Hasbro was in Rhode Island, and the writers were scattered all over, they just mailed in their scripts.)

I wonder if anyone has ever made a Nightshade custom. Personally, I never cared for a Michael Jackson inspired pony, but I'm sure there are quite a few people who liked the idea.

"Do the moonwalk, ponies. Put that sparkle in your shoes. Do the moonwalk, ponies. And you'll never get the blues."


There was a Music Custom Swap once and someone made Knightshade out of either an SHS or a G2. Don't remember who it was though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 14, 2017, 07:38:11 AM
I really don't like Starlight Glimmer. I could say I hate her, in fact. No part of me believes she could ever be fully reformed. I still believe she's just secretly masquerading under the guise of being a good guy just to learn all the ins and outs of the Mane 6 and eventually exploit their weaknesses so she may take over the world.

Ssssssh! You're giving away the Season 7 finale.
This has spawned an unpopular opinion from me, who doesn't even watch FIM and who has seen maybe one season total.

The idea of someone playing the mane 6 back on their friendship is magic game by pretending to be friends with them in order to do something horrible is a depth of storyline continuity and planning that would probably make me more interested in the show.

So I would actually like it if that were the case with a character, instead of them all buckling to the brainwashing sooner or later.

I will also add that one reason I like EQG animation better is that even after she has been 'saved', Sunset Shimmer remains somewhat conflicted and mistrusted by others - a character development continuity that I love. I've not seen seven, eight seasons of FIM but from what people have said here continuity doesn't really happen...

So I would absolutely start watching FIM if there was a continuous psychological game going on behind the scenes with someone playing the Mane 6 at their own game.

Feel free to throw the tomatoes, but though I have only ever seen the toy, that image of Starlight Glimmer now makes me like her a whole lot more.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: mlly on April 14, 2017, 07:56:16 AM
I don't have a problem with Megan or human characters in MLP.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 14, 2017, 08:13:56 AM
I don't have a problem with Megan or human characters in MLP.

Me either, I like Megan, Molly and Danny. I used to take my ponies and pretend to be Megan all the time.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starberry on April 14, 2017, 09:42:05 AM
I'm not sure if I like the backcards/art for later G1 UK/euro ponies, in those they look somewhat knock-off or hippo-ish compared to the earlier g1 art.  :lookround:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 14, 2017, 01:39:35 PM
I really don't like Starlight Glimmer. I could say I hate her, in fact. No part of me believes she could ever be fully reformed. I still believe she's just secretly masquerading under the guise of being a good guy just to learn all the ins and outs of the Mane 6 and eventually exploit their weaknesses so she may take over the world.

Ssssssh! You're giving away the Season 7 finale.
This has spawned an unpopular opinion from me, who doesn't even watch FIM and who has seen maybe one season total.

The idea of someone playing the mane 6 back on their friendship is magic game by pretending to be friends with them in order to do something horrible is a depth of storyline continuity and planning that would probably make me more interested in the show.

So I would actually like it if that were the case with a character, instead of them all buckling to the brainwashing sooner or later.

I will also add that one reason I like EQG animation better is that even after she has been 'saved', Sunset Shimmer remains somewhat conflicted and mistrusted by others - a character development continuity that I love. I've not seen seven, eight seasons of FIM but from what people have said here continuity doesn't really happen...

So I would absolutely start watching FIM if there was a continuous psychological game going on behind the scenes with someone playing the Mane 6 at their own game.

Feel free to throw the tomatoes, but though I have only ever seen the toy, that image of Starlight Glimmer now makes me like her a whole lot more.

I looove this idea and I don't watch the show, either. :B

Oh, and I like Megan, Molly and Danny, too. I didn't think I would - I'm not usually a fan of humans in stories like this (that's what I hated about the Sylvanian Families cartoon) - but I do. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 14, 2017, 03:21:44 PM
I like My Little Pony Tales. :)


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 14, 2017, 05:28:40 PM
I like the couple of songs ive seen from pony tales "she's so much better than me" so real.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on April 14, 2017, 08:11:32 PM
I really don't like Starlight Glimmer. I could say I hate her, in fact. No part of me believes she could ever be fully reformed. I still believe she's just secretly masquerading under the guise of being a good guy just to learn all the ins and outs of the Mane 6 and eventually exploit their weaknesses so she may take over the world.

Ssssssh! You're giving away the Season 7 finale.
This has spawned an unpopular opinion from me, who doesn't even watch FIM and who has seen maybe one season total.

The idea of someone playing the mane 6 back on their friendship is magic game by pretending to be friends with them in order to do something horrible is a depth of storyline continuity and planning that would probably make me more interested in the show.

So I would actually like it if that were the case with a character, instead of them all buckling to the brainwashing sooner or later.

I will also add that one reason I like EQG animation better is that even after she has been 'saved', Sunset Shimmer remains somewhat conflicted and mistrusted by others - a character development continuity that I love. I've not seen seven, eight seasons of FIM but from what people have said here continuity doesn't really happen...

So I would absolutely start watching FIM if there was a continuous psychological game going on behind the scenes with someone playing the Mane 6 at their own game.

Feel free to throw the tomatoes, but though I have only ever seen the toy, that image of Starlight Glimmer now makes me like her a whole lot more.

I think the main difference here is that Hasbro created EG to appeal to an older demographic than what they are aiming FiM at.  Therefore, EG is allowed to have slightly more sophisticated plot lines/continuity.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 14, 2017, 09:19:41 PM
I got the same feeling from EG.  At some age ponies are less cool (i suppose) and the same viewers would be moving on to pre-teen programming.

Something is definitely going to happen to Starlight tomorrow...she gets sucked into some pentacle spell she works on with Starburst and I didn't see her mentioned in the next episode hints so...I'm sure she'll be fine.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on April 15, 2017, 03:14:13 AM
The Tootsie pose is one of my favourites. :P

I'm not sure if I like the backcards/art for later G1 UK/euro ponies, in those they look somewhat knock-off or hippo-ish compared to the earlier g1 art.  :lookround:

I agree! They seem to shout at you with their overly bright, clashing colours. And the ponies have really weird blown-up, square faces. :lookround:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 15, 2017, 06:44:35 AM
If we're talking about the neon pink G1 cards, I totally agree. That and the shared story laziness.

As for the age target of EQG vs FIM, that sort of jars with the argument FIM is too influenced by the brony (adult) community. Moreover, kids shows used to contain grittier stuff even  when aimed at a much younger audience (RAMC is one example, but I remember kids shows from my childhood aimed at much younger kids than MLP where you had a union strike in one and a dig at government measurement changes in another.) I realise we live in a sanitised age, but if the brony community is an element in decision making, then..?

Target age and plot are also often a bit irrelevant since if the kid is too young to get the nuances they will pass over them, but if the kid is old enough to get them they'll get them and enjoy the show longer.

I'd say it's more that EQG has a Jem influence which FIM doesn't have. And Jem was always very nuanced (albeit probably aimed a bit older).

Moving on - I also love MLP Tales. Though I prefer the comic version of Bright Eyes as she is less bossy. I probably like MLP Tales better than the other G1 animation.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on April 15, 2017, 10:01:29 AM
As for the age target of EQG vs FIM, that sort of jars with the argument FIM is too influenced by the brony (adult) community. Moreover, kids shows used to contain grittier stuff even  when aimed at a much younger audience (RAMC is one example, but I remember kids shows from my childhood aimed at much younger kids than MLP where you had a union strike in one and a dig at government measurement changes in another.) I realise we live in a sanitised age, but if the brony community is an element in decision making, then..?

Target age and plot are also often a bit irrelevant since if the kid is too young to get the nuances they will pass over them, but if the kid is old enough to get them they'll get them and enjoy the show longer.

I'd say it's more that EQG has a Jem influence which FIM doesn't have. And Jem was always very nuanced (albeit probably aimed a bit older).

I don't think the "brony influence" goes past anything that's appropriate for the target audience and is similar to the occasional reference aimed at parents watching a show with their kids. Things like a reference to a character from media only older viewers would recognize or things like that that would go unnoticed by the target audience. The show itself is still very much aimed at their original target audience.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on April 15, 2017, 10:12:21 AM
As for the age target of EQG vs FIM, that sort of jars with the argument FIM is too influenced by the brony (adult) community. Moreover, kids shows used to contain grittier stuff even  when aimed at a much younger audience (RAMC is one example, but I remember kids shows from my childhood aimed at much younger kids than MLP where you had a union strike in one and a dig at government measurement changes in another.) I realise we live in a sanitised age, but if the brony community is an element in decision making, then..?

Target age and plot are also often a bit irrelevant since if the kid is too young to get the nuances they will pass over them, but if the kid is old enough to get them they'll get them and enjoy the show longer.

I'd say it's more that EQG has a Jem influence which FIM doesn't have. And Jem was always very nuanced (albeit probably aimed a bit older).

I don't think the "brony influence" goes past anything that's appropriate for the target audience and is similar to the occasional reference aimed at parents watching a show with their kids. Things like a reference to a character from media only older viewers would recognize or things like that that would go unnoticed by the target audience. The show itself is still very much aimed at their original target audience.

While I agree with this generally, they did release that 100th episode that was entirely fanservice. The pony team IS listening., and they Do know about all the stuff bronies do and it does influence the show.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 15, 2017, 10:27:20 AM
Here's an unpopular opinion of mine that seems unpopular both here and in the brony fandom - I don't think "Muffin Pony" stole "The Last Round Up" from Applejack at all, or rather she didn't for me.  I was pleased to see her, I appreciated the little fandom gesture (it's okay when it's relevant and/or not in your face, in my opinion), but the rest of the episode was, and still is an Applejack episode to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on April 15, 2017, 12:17:38 PM
As for the age target of EQG vs FIM, that sort of jars with the argument FIM is too influenced by the brony (adult) community. Moreover, kids shows used to contain grittier stuff even  when aimed at a much younger audience (RAMC is one example, but I remember kids shows from my childhood aimed at much younger kids than MLP where you had a union strike in one and a dig at government measurement changes in another.) I realise we live in a sanitised age, but if the brony community is an element in decision making, then..?

Target age and plot are also often a bit irrelevant since if the kid is too young to get the nuances they will pass over them, but if the kid is old enough to get them they'll get them and enjoy the show longer.

I'd say it's more that EQG has a Jem influence which FIM doesn't have. And Jem was always very nuanced (albeit probably aimed a bit older).

I don't think the "brony influence" goes past anything that's appropriate for the target audience and is similar to the occasional reference aimed at parents watching a show with their kids. Things like a reference to a character from media only older viewers would recognize or things like that that would go unnoticed by the target audience. The show itself is still very much aimed at their original target audience.

While I agree with this generally, they did release that 100th episode that was entirely fanservice. The pony team IS listening., and they Do know about all the stuff bronies do and it does influence the show.

Yeah but nothing in that episode was anything inappropriate or unenjoyable for their target audience. Not every single thought or idea bronies have is something that's inappropriate for kids. The point is they still have to take what's appropriate for their target audience into consideration and Equestria Girls was aimed at older girls who would watch shows like Monster High or Jem, not bronies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 15, 2017, 01:27:51 PM
Im pretty sure bronies arent generally all that thrilled by EG.

I expected to hate it because of the bipedalism alone but was surprised to find those movies most enjoyable.

Remember what i think many of us love about mlp is its childlike innocence and there is a terrible but hilarious College Humor video that refers to bronies as "emotionally stunted adults" and while that's mean, it does accurately describe me and possibly why i am so enamored by mlp. That being said, the school experience portrayed in EG is much less childlike and has a lot more politics etc so to me it definitely seems focused on an older demographic.

Disclaimer: im not calling anyone but myself "emotionally stunted". I never grew out of that phase where the smallest thing makes me throw a tantrum or curl up and cry.

Post Merge: April 15, 2017, 01:32:39 PM

Here's an unpopular opinion of mine that seems unpopular both here and in the brony fandom - I don't think "Muffin Pony" stole "The Last Round Up" from Applejack at all, or rather she didn't for me.  I was pleased to see her, I appreciated the little fandom gesture (it's okay when it's relevant and/or not in your face, in my opinion), but the rest of the episode was, and still is an Applejack episode to me.

I dont see muffins as stealing that episode either and anyone who has any opinion at all regarding that episode or the re-writing to change the name absolutely Must watch the Friendship is Witchcraft episode that parodies it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponycake on April 16, 2017, 11:43:58 AM
Oh... is this unpopular? I think that cheese sandwich pony is just... a thousand times no.

Another unpopular one.. I love those retro g1 porcelains, especially Firefly! It seems like none of you guys bought her so it was SOOOO HARDDD for me to track one down to buy. I finally did though. :heart:

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Like ok, slightly off/strange, but I love it still.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Luxrayx on April 16, 2017, 12:44:34 PM
Oh... is this unpopular? I think that cheese sandwich pony is just... a thousand times no.

Another unpopular one.. I love those retro g1 porcelains, especially Firefly! It seems like none of you guys bought her so it was SOOOO HARDDD for me to track one down to buy. I finally did though. :heart:

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Like ok, slightly off/strange, but I love it still.
Whaat I have never seen an MLP porcelain figure with hair  :shocked: Someone tell me how I can acquire one!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponycake on April 16, 2017, 12:48:24 PM
You'll have to try to track her down from another collector, but you'll probably have to search a long time like I did!

Glory is easy to find. I think not that many people bought Firefly.

http://mylittlewiki.org/w/images/2/29/Hamilton-glory-figurine.jpg

They were retro ones made I'm not sure what year, at a time I was on hiatus from collecting. Apparently they would have made Sunbeam and Medley, but they were really unpopular with collectors because they didn't look like the ads.

Never saw the ads so I didn't have to be let down. :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Esbayne on April 16, 2017, 01:29:13 PM
WHOA!! I've never seen that Firefly before. She's amazing!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 16, 2017, 02:41:41 PM
Here are some old threads about the Hamilton figures:

http://www.mlparena.com/archive/Forums/viewtopic/p=960646.html
http://www.mlparena.com/archive/Forums/viewtopic/t=47491/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=0.html
http://www.mlparena.com/archive/Forums//viewtopic/p=1270672.html
http://www.mlparena.com/archive/Forums/viewtopic/p=262547.html
http://www.mlparena.com/archive/Forums/viewtopic/p=1457345.html

Could've sworn I've seen bigger threads about them before, but I couldn't find them.. oh well.

Not sure what I think about them; I don't hate them, but something about their faces bothers me, I can't put my finger on it. They're pretty nice aside from that, though :) tho I can understand being disappointed since apparently they were quite different from the ads (dunno if I've ever seen the ads so I can't comment on that, heh).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponycake on April 16, 2017, 03:39:35 PM
I wish I could see the original ad.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 16, 2017, 03:45:03 PM
Oh... is this unpopular? I think that cheese sandwich pony is just... a thousand times no.

Another unpopular one.. I love those retro g1 porcelains, especially Firefly! It seems like none of you guys bought her so it was SOOOO HARDDD for me to track one down to buy. I finally did though. :heart:

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Like ok, slightly off/strange, but I love it still.

I've never seen that before. She's mostly alright , her head is turned wrong is all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 16, 2017, 04:50:45 PM
Shatter v plastic degradation: someday these ceramics may be the last close-to-accurate G1s.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 16, 2017, 05:55:21 PM

Yeah but nothing in that episode was anything inappropriate or unenjoyable for their target audience. Not every single thought or idea bronies have is something that's inappropriate for kids.
This is taking the thread off topic but you have missed my point. I never said anything about inappropriate for kids, I said exactly what you said about things that are fan aimed that go over the heads of the target audience but are not per se inappropriate. Kid's shows are full of them, and there's a reason so many adults like it as well as kids. G3 had a very defined demographic, but I don't think G4 does, even if it began that way. We have G4 toys aimed at toddlers, and I don't think you'd say the show was aimed at them specifically either. G4 is aimed "at kids" and they'll take any that want to watch it. To achieve that, they probably insert a mix of things different age groups can pick up on. I don't think FIM is for little kids or that the demographic is different from EQG. I think it just lacks continuity and thus development of many characters in a past-present-future way, unlike EQG where Sunset Shimmer has continuity in a past-present-future way. But this is possible because EQG has fewer animated films and they are longer, whereas FIM is churning out short weekly episodes. Format is what is different here in my opinion.

I also know people who grew up with and were fans of Jem from age five or so, even though Jem was probably "targeted" older. So it isn't an exact science anyway.

And we should end this diversion topic, as it's not discussing unpopular opinions. Unless of course my opinion that FIM is kid safe but still contains stuff to appeal to older fans is unpopular. Specific toy lines within FIM have a target audience. The show is a catchall.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 16, 2017, 10:07:37 PM
Well except possibly for an occasional sippy-cup, the toys are all rated 3 and up so that at least is clear as to demographics. Unfortunately this means i can never find baby stuff in pony prints for my pony plushes and newborn stuff all fits Buildabear ponies.

Is it unpopular to think my pony plushes should be wearing pony printed newborn clothes etc? Plenty of generic n disney stuff etc but just not the same. Dont moms want to clothe their newborns in mlp with mlp pacifiers, diaper pins and toys?!

Probably just me. My opinions are by definition probably unpopular.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on April 17, 2017, 05:12:06 AM
Well except possibly for an occasional sippy-cup, the toys are all rated 3 and up so that at least is clear as to demographics. Unfortunately this means i can never find baby stuff in pony prints for my pony plushes and newborn stuff all fits Buildabear ponies.

Is it unpopular to think my pony plushes should be wearing pony printed newborn clothes etc? Plenty of generic n disney stuff etc but just not the same. Dont moms want to clothe their newborns in mlp with mlp pacifiers, diaper pins and toys?!

Probably just me. My opinions are by definition probably unpopular.

Playskool line is ages 0-3 depending on the toy.

They have baby MLP onesies/rompers. And awhile back they had bibs/socks/bows etc for babies as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 17, 2017, 05:17:47 AM
Well except possibly for an occasional sippy-cup, the toys are all rated 3 and up so that at least is clear as to demographics. Unfortunately this means i can never find baby stuff in pony prints for my pony plushes and newborn stuff all fits Buildabear ponies.

Is it unpopular to think my pony plushes should be wearing pony printed newborn clothes etc? Plenty of generic n disney stuff etc but just not the same. Dont moms want to clothe their newborns in mlp with mlp pacifiers, diaper pins and toys?!

Probably just me. My opinions are by definition probably unpopular.

Playskool line is ages 0-3 depending on the toy.

That was what I was referring to. Hasbro are not defining the age that the series is aimed at - it's going for all levels and genders. Thinking otherwise is a naive business strategy. If you can get all the kids with one product theme, why not? It's not that different from what Disney does, and you can't tell me that the silhouette of a hanging man or a battlefield of implied corpses in animated Disney films means that Tarzan and Mulan are not appropriate for small children? The small kids just don't see those implications - and MLP is no different. It's like if you ever watched Nightmare Before Christmas as a kid and then as an adult - it's a lot more disturbing when you're older, because you understand some of those themes but as a kid you just saw Jack dress up as Santa and weirdify Christmas.

Regarding the Hamilton figures - what bothers me about that Firefly is that her head looks more like a Mountain Boy/adult boy pony's mould than Firefly. It looks like someone put Daddy Bright Bouquet's head on a pegasus body, then dyed it pink.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: biancaferrando on April 17, 2017, 05:34:55 AM
I don't like G2... they look un-definined to me, like parts of the face are missing or something. Not a fan of flutter ponies, and I have mix feelings about the SHSs, they look very alike G2, except they have a face sorta.
lol @ some of the comments about Gusty...
It's not that I don't like the So Soft ones... they are just such pain to restore I am starting to dislike them a little.
I do not like Moondancer pose at all, to me it makes the pony look utterly ungraceful. My favorite poses are probably Medley and the 2 legs standing of So Soft, dynamic and harmonious looking.
I confess my least favorite (ugly I dare say) color combination are the Xmas themed G1 ones... that green and that red is just... no.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 17, 2017, 05:44:21 AM

I do not like Moondancer pose at all, to me it makes the pony look utterly ungraceful.

I agree with this. I used to think it looked like she'd been sat on.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 17, 2017, 08:01:02 AM
I don't like G2... they look un-definined to me, like parts of the face are missing or something. Not a fan of flutter ponies, and I have mix feelings about the SHSs, they look very alike G2, except they have a face sorta.
lol @ some of the comments about Gusty...
It's not that I don't like the So Soft ones... they are just such pain to restore I am starting to dislike them a little.
I do not like Moondancer pose at all, to me it makes the pony look utterly ungraceful. My favorite poses are probably Medley and the 2 legs standing of So Soft, dynamic and harmonious looking.
I confess my least favorite (ugly I dare say) color combination are the Xmas themed G1 ones... that green and that red is just... no.

Actually, a lot of people aren't particularly fond of the Moondancer pose.  The body is too round and potatoey for lack of a better description, the legs are uneven and the gait is strange. The face is off compared to the Glory pose. I'm curious to see how much better the tweaked version is on Princess Misty. Still Moondancer and Sunbeam are very pretty ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 17, 2017, 11:01:24 AM
The Hamilton Collection statuettes are actually resin, not porcelain. :)

I ordered Glory when she was first offered, but she was SUCH a disappointment compared to the advertisement. Unfortunately it's really hard to find the advertisement any more . . . SOmeone must have it though.  It was in one of those sets of Sunday newspaper ads on September 25th, 2005.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 17, 2017, 03:22:03 PM
I agree with the Moondancer pose and also  dislike the Powder pose.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 17, 2017, 04:22:27 PM
Well except possibly for an occasional sippy-cup, the toys are all rated 3 and up so that at least is clear as to demographics. Unfortunately this means i can never find baby stuff in pony prints for my pony plushes and newborn stuff all fits Buildabear ponies.

Is it unpopular to think my pony plushes should be wearing pony printed newborn clothes etc? Plenty of generic n disney stuff etc but just not the same. Dont moms want to clothe their newborns in mlp with mlp pacifiers, diaper pins and toys?!

Probably just me. My opinions are by definition probably unpopular.

Playskool line is ages 0-3 depending on the toy.

They have baby MLP onesies/rompers. And awhile back they had bibs/socks/bows etc for babies as well.

Oh yes I've seen the Playskool toys but the heads are too big, like Fashems.  Don't care for those much.

Glad to hear I am wrong about no baby clothes...I don't see those in current new products but will look for them on eBay and such.  Thanks for cluing me in!

I like Moondancer's pose, she's tall and graceful (to me).  As to poses, I like the look of some poses that frustrate me because they don't stand up as well.  I like jointed ponies too which I think are less well loved than ones without joints.

I agree the faces on G2 could be more developed, but I love their leg/hoof poses and that they all have eye gems.  I appreciate that they seem closely related to SHS and it seems similar to the evolutionary relationship between G3.5 and G4...which is probably unpopular to say...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on April 17, 2017, 04:57:48 PM
You'll have to try to track her down from another collector, but you'll probably have to search a long time like I did!

Glory is easy to find. I think not that many people bought Firefly.

http://mylittlewiki.org/w/images/2/29/Hamilton-glory-figurine.jpg

They were retro ones made I'm not sure what year, at a time I was on hiatus from collecting. Apparently they would have made Sunbeam and Medley, but they were really unpopular with collectors because they didn't look like the ads.

Never saw the ads so I didn't have to be let down. :lol:


umm to me they look either well tipsy or high......
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 17, 2017, 10:57:12 PM
I don't like Diamond Dreams.  Her body color and hair color are great, but the pastel colors on her cape look out of place.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cswift on April 19, 2017, 11:33:04 PM
Idk how actually unpopular this is, but...based on photographs, I actually might prefer the way Posey's hair looks when faded. It's this really beautiful champagne color that I think suits her body color more than the original sugary pink.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on April 20, 2017, 12:03:25 AM
I don't like Diamond Dreams.  Her body color and hair color are great, but the pastel colors on her cape look out of place.

This made me think of another one: I don't like the Merry Go Round set. The molded blankets and molded flowers on the back of the head just look so weird to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: orangepeachmango on April 20, 2017, 12:38:08 AM

This made me think of another one: I don't like the Merry Go Round set. The molded blankets and molded flowers on the back of the head just look so weird to me.

I only like flower bouqet, because of her beautiful colors. the others in that set are kinda....yucky to me! anything 3d or moulded parts is a big no-no for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 20, 2017, 04:22:03 AM
I don't like Diamond Dreams.  Her body color and hair color are great, but the pastel colors on her cape look out of place.

This made me think of another one: I don't like the Merry Go Round set. The molded blankets and molded flowers on the back of the head just look so weird to me.


I generally agree with this, although I like Diamond Dreams, randomly. I think because we found her here at the carboot sale without knowing who she was, and red and yellow ponies always get on well in our house as they are Dad's favourite colours...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 20, 2017, 08:09:16 AM
I'm not fond of the MGR set in general either.  I think I was too spoiled by living in a city with an actual vintage carousel, and they just can't compare, lol. The one I randomly like is MGR Sparkler.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on April 20, 2017, 04:52:27 PM
I specially like the white MGR, forgot offhand which one she is.

Don't care much for Diamond Dreams as much, which works out well for me.

Off topic, I love the little carousel horses on poles and I'm ending up with quite a few porcelain ones on music boxes.

LadyMoondancer, I'm jealous of your real carousel.  I love the full size versions most!  Especially ones that are not plastic.  One of the Dirty Harry movies has a vintage one in the final shootout scene that one of the characters is restoring; makes me love that movie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 20, 2017, 07:12:02 PM
I specially like the white MGR, forgot offhand which one she is.

Don't care much for Diamond Dreams as much, which works out well for me.

Off topic, I love the little carousel horses on poles and I'm ending up with quite a few porcelain ones on music boxes.

LadyMoondancer, I'm jealous of your real carousel.  I love the full size versions most!  Especially ones that are not plastic.  One of the Dirty Harry movies has a vintage one in the final shootout scene that one of the characters is restoring; makes me love that movie.


Have you ever seen the Matchbox Carousel Collection? They are darling little miniatures! I desperately want.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 22, 2017, 03:43:10 AM
I specially like the white MGR, forgot offhand which one she is.

Don't care much for Diamond Dreams as much, which works out well for me.

Off topic, I love the little carousel horses on poles and I'm ending up with quite a few porcelain ones on music boxes.

LadyMoondancer, I'm jealous of your real carousel.  I love the full size versions most!  Especially ones that are not plastic.  One of the Dirty Harry movies has a vintage one in the final shootout scene that one of the characters is restoring; makes me love that movie.


Have you ever seen the Matchbox Carousel Collection? They are darling little miniatures! I desperately want.

I have one of those - or something very like those - from when I was a kid. We used to have a fair that came near us every year and there was always a carousel. I was quite obsessed with riding it, and so when those were in shops I ended up buying one. I am pretty sure it's the same thing as you're mentioning. I have her still, somewhere, but goodness knows where or which one I have. They are very pretty though, I totally agree.

Edit to add: I think the one I have may be Hopper. It was so nostalgic googling them all.

(Completely off topic xD)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 22, 2017, 07:28:45 AM
I specially like the white MGR, forgot offhand which one she is.

Don't care much for Diamond Dreams as much, which works out well for me.

Off topic, I love the little carousel horses on poles and I'm ending up with quite a few porcelain ones on music boxes.

LadyMoondancer, I'm jealous of your real carousel.  I love the full size versions most!  Especially ones that are not plastic.  One of the Dirty Harry movies has a vintage one in the final shootout scene that one of the characters is restoring; makes me love that movie.


Have you ever seen the Matchbox Carousel Collection? They are darling little miniatures! I desperately want.

I have one of those - or something very like those - from when I was a kid. We used to have a fair that came near us every year and there was always a carousel. I was quite obsessed with riding it, and so when those were in shops I ended up buying one. I am pretty sure it's the same thing as you're mentioning. I have her still, somewhere, but goodness knows where or which one I have. They are very pretty though, I totally agree.

Edit to add: I think the one I have may be Hopper. It was so nostalgic googling them all.

(Completely off topic xD)

Pictures pretty please? Hopper is a cutie!

And hey it's my topic, go as off topic as you want. ^^
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 22, 2017, 07:36:17 AM
I specially like the white MGR, forgot offhand which one she is.

Don't care much for Diamond Dreams as much, which works out well for me.

Off topic, I love the little carousel horses on poles and I'm ending up with quite a few porcelain ones on music boxes.

LadyMoondancer, I'm jealous of your real carousel.  I love the full size versions most!  Especially ones that are not plastic.  One of the Dirty Harry movies has a vintage one in the final shootout scene that one of the characters is restoring; makes me love that movie.


Have you ever seen the Matchbox Carousel Collection? They are darling little miniatures! I desperately want.

I have one of those - or something very like those - from when I was a kid. We used to have a fair that came near us every year and there was always a carousel. I was quite obsessed with riding it, and so when those were in shops I ended up buying one. I am pretty sure it's the same thing as you're mentioning. I have her still, somewhere, but goodness knows where or which one I have. They are very pretty though, I totally agree.

Edit to add: I think the one I have may be Hopper. It was so nostalgic googling them all.

(Completely off topic xD)

Pictures pretty please? Hopper is a cutie!

And hey it's my topic, go as off topic as you want. ^^
I have absolutely no idea where she is, even if I was back home, so pictures are not possible. I am not even 100% that it was Hopper, but I definitely had one and that one looks the most familiar.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 22, 2017, 08:39:42 AM
(off-topic but Cswift, I love your sig! Pinkie Cooper :heart::heart:)

I prefer pink-haired ponies to be unfaded, but I do love that "in-between" colour they get sometimes.. not quite white yet but not pink either, just sort of both and neither at the same time, shimmery with pinker patches here and there.. so pretty. Too bad it doesn't really show up in photos though, haha.

I'm never too sure if I like the MGR ponies or not. I like the white one (forget her name), the colour + molded flowers remind me of some ornaments my nan had so she makes me smile, but the others.. I dunno, I go back and forth on my opinion of them a lot. Their colours are too garish for me, for the most part.. I guess I don't really dislike them, but I wouldn't want one either? If that makes sense.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cswift on April 22, 2017, 02:02:30 PM
(off-topic but Cswift, I love your sig! Pinkie Cooper :heart::heart:)

I prefer pink-haired ponies to be unfaded, but I do love that "in-between" colour they get sometimes.. not quite white yet but not pink either, just sort of both and neither at the same time, shimmery with pinker patches here and there.. so pretty. Too bad it doesn't really show up in photos though, haha.

I actually saw a pair of twin babies on eBay that had really nice fading. Their manes were white on top and pink at the ends, almost like an intentional ombre. I'm kicking myself for not saving the link now. I think they were blue?

(And yay, I'm glad someone else likes Pinkie Cooper! There was a lot of negativity surrounding these dolls when they were out.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 22, 2017, 02:34:15 PM
(off-topic but Cswift, I love your sig! Pinkie Cooper :heart::heart:)

I prefer pink-haired ponies to be unfaded, but I do love that "in-between" colour they get sometimes.. not quite white yet but not pink either, just sort of both and neither at the same time, shimmery with pinker patches here and there.. so pretty. Too bad it doesn't really show up in photos though, haha.

I'm never too sure if I like the MGR ponies or not. I like the white one (forget her name), the colour + molded flowers remind me of some ornaments my nan had so she makes me smile, but the others.. I dunno, I go back and forth on my opinion of them a lot. Their colours are too garish for me, for the most part.. I guess I don't really dislike them, but I wouldn't want one either? If that makes sense.

Same here!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on May 08, 2017, 09:47:19 AM
I'm actually surprised I didn't think to put this here before, but here's another one of mine; I never cared if any of the Concept Six turned out to be any of the Mane Six's mothers.

I often see people expressing disappointment when a Mane Six pony is shown, and it turns out not to be their Concept Six counterpart, and to be honest, I was always cool that it wasn't.  I love the Concept Six, and they were the first ponies I ever thought of crossing over into the G4 world (I'm not saying all of them will be the first), but I never viewed them as being the mothers nor cared if they were shown turned out to be in the show - Twilight Velvet resembling G1 Twilight was enough for me, and even then she's not an exact match, it was just a nice little reference to me, I never needed the Mane Six and Concept Six to be related.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on May 08, 2017, 10:25:58 AM
I love the suprise twins with mom
g3 is awsome
princess celestia is cool
spanish piggy ponies are cool
i love g2
sprinkles needs more love
g3.5 gets way to much hate
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 17, 2017, 08:04:41 AM
I think the Sunny Daze pose is much prettier then the Diva pose.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jinxxy on May 17, 2017, 08:30:12 AM
I don't like princess Celestia, but I downright hate Twilight.
Both figures and the show!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on May 17, 2017, 08:45:36 AM
I think Nightglider and Mainsail are very similar, and I prefer Mainsail.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 17, 2017, 09:00:42 AM
I don't get the love for Tex and Lightning.  I think All boy pony poses are boring.

The SHS have graceful, horselike poses, but barring a few here and there they are so generic and boring.

I don't like the shape on the wings of the toy flutters. They look fine in the show, but on the toy? No. I wish they had different shapes like the Wingers. Plus, too many flower themes. I like the second set better.

I don't like the colors on Patch's toy, even though I like it on the cartoon. Weird huh?  Perfect pose for her though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cswift on May 18, 2017, 12:38:03 PM
I find BBE ponies more appealing than the regular babies, which I'm completely apathetic about.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 19, 2017, 10:41:33 AM
I think the Sunny Daze pose is much prettier then the Diva pose.
Agree with this! It's quirky, and I absolutely loathe the Diva pose. I have never understood why people like it. When I went through my G3s to sell a lot of the Diva pose ones didn't stick around. The only one I remember keeping is Winter Snow and only because she is a European pony.

Re the concept 6/mane six mother/child idea - never even knew that was a thing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunbeamV on May 19, 2017, 12:05:25 PM
I love the BBE babies. Moreso than the regular g1 babies.

I think super mint condition collections are boring. I prefer my ponies to be a little beat up, have some history and character!

That thick chunky coloured tinsel they used for the Butterfly Island g3s was really pretty.

I do like Mimic (green and parrots!!! my faves!!) but if anyone from that set deserves that amount of attention, it's Bright Eyes.

I prefer the g4.5 reboot ponies over the older g4s. By comparison, the older ones look droopy and dull and the reboot set look a little closer to what ponies should look like, imo.

I can't wait for g5 to pop up and flush out the last of the people latching onto the brony label and g4's popularity. I was still very much a child when the brony phenomenon started and was extremely hurt by feeling chased out of the community I grew up in because I was now seemingly in the minority and in the wrong for being a kid who liked kids toys. The last of my childhood was taken away from me for the comfort of adult men in a space that didn't belong to them and I can't wait for them to get a taste of their own medicine when g5 rolls around and children take up the majority of mlp fans again.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 19, 2017, 01:32:15 PM
I don't like the diva pose either.  The Sunny Daze pose has so much personality and looks so happy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jinxxy on May 19, 2017, 02:37:17 PM

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I can't wait for g5 to pop up and flush out the last of the people latching onto the brony label

OH GOD! No kidding! I remember when "brony" was starting to be a thing. My obscure hobby became mainstream!....but then it got cringey... Like, really really bad. I can't wait for the G5 for the same reasons, but I doubt it's going to come along soon :/


I think super mint condition collections are boring. I prefer my ponies to be a little beat up, have some history and character!
I prefer my pets to be like your ponies are. I love a dog with history. An old soul who has not necessarily had life be roses, but is his own "person" because of it. Character, quirks and all!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 19, 2017, 07:23:56 PM
I love the BBE babies. Moreso than the regular g1 babies.

I think super mint condition collections are boring. I prefer my ponies to be a little beat up, have some history and character!

That thick chunky coloured tinsel they used for the Butterfly Island g3s was really pretty.

I do like Mimic (green and parrots!!! my faves!!) but if anyone from that set deserves that amount of attention, it's Bright Eyes.

I prefer the g4.5 reboot ponies over the older g4s. By comparison, the older ones look droopy and dull and the reboot set look a little closer to what ponies should look like, imo.

I can't wait for g5 to pop up and flush out the last of the people latching onto the brony label and g4's popularity. I was still very much a child when the brony phenomenon started and was extremely hurt by feeling chased out of the community I grew up in because I was now seemingly in the minority and in the wrong for being a kid who liked kids toys. The last of my childhood was taken away from me for the comfort of adult men in a space that didn't belong to them and I can't wait for them to get a taste of their own medicine when g5 rolls around and children take up the majority of mlp fans again.


:hug:

What thick, chunky tinsel?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cswift on May 19, 2017, 10:15:50 PM
I can't wait for g5 to pop up and flush out the last of the people latching onto the brony label and g4's popularity. I was still very much a child when the brony phenomenon started and was extremely hurt by feeling chased out of the community I grew up in because I was now seemingly in the minority and in the wrong for being a kid who liked kids toys. The last of my childhood was taken away from me for the comfort of adult men in a space that didn't belong to them and I can't wait for them to get a taste of their own medicine when g5 rolls around and children take up the majority of mlp fans again.

You hit the nail on the head regarding what bothers me about the brony community. I understand that there are positive things about it -- I think men can and should be encouraged to like what they like without shame or embarrassment, even if those things are "girly," because there's nothing inherently shameful about girls! But I've seen too often that the men (and, granted, some of the women) involved aren't willing to extend the same courtesy to others that they demand for themselves, and instead swagger about acting like they own MLP and anyone who doesn't fit into their mold is stupid and wrong.

Another unpopular opinion of mine, since I don't want to just rant -- Nirvanas usually look bad, in my opinion. I could be biased, but the alternate color schemes never seem to quite "fit" -- like it's obvious the characters weren't originally designed in those colors.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 20, 2017, 02:50:42 AM
On the Nirvana subject - bearing in mind I'm expecting to be pelted with rotten fruit for saying this - I don't understand why people spend a fortune on a bad condition Nirvana with no hair/ratty hair cut and marks all over the body. A beat up pony is a beat up pony, and should command a beat up pony price.

I'm not talking about ones with minor flaws, fading, etc, but the ones that show up chewed, bald, tailless and/or drawn all over. I really don't understand why people will pay top dollar for something that is essentially wrecked.
Even if it were a OOAK pony, I wouldn't do it. I love battered ponies, but I don't love collector exploitation by sellers.

Another unpopular opinion of mine...I don't believe in the "an owner can do what they like to their pony, it's their pony' mantra. So many people sell collections on these days due to circumstances they don't forsee that I think it matters what you do to a pony in terms of making permanent changes. I think that the community matters more than the individual in such things.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: The_Loner on May 20, 2017, 04:21:36 AM
I like the 'G3.5' ponies. I think they are cute and were good quality, especially their hair. There should just have been waay more characters.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on May 20, 2017, 09:36:56 AM
... I've seen too often that the men (and, granted, some of the women) involved aren't willing to extend the same courtesy to others that they demand for themselves, and instead swagger about acting like they own MLP and anyone who doesn't fit into their mold is stupid and wrong.

I've seen a lot less of this than I hear people complain about, and I think hypocrisy is a tempting two-way street.  Also bronies aren't going away with the end of G4 any more than anyone here quit being interested in My Little Pony when G1 stopped.  Diverse fans of MLP are going to have to learn to get along, and i believe one day we will.

I love the BBE babies. Moreso than the regular g1 babies.

I think super mint condition collections are boring. I prefer my ponies to be a little beat up, have some history and character!

I do like Mimic (green and parrots!!! my faves!!) but if anyone from that set deserves that amount of attention, it's Bright Eyes.

...hurt by feeling chased out of the community I grew up in because I was now seemingly in the minority and in the wrong for being a kid who liked kids toys.

I too love BBEs, Bright Eyes, and ponies with character!

I'm sorry that happened to you, SunbeamV.  I hope you can transcend that pain.

I like the 'G3.5' ponies. I think they are cute and were good quality, especially their hair. There should just have been waay more characters.

I love 3.5s too!  Yes their hair is super luxurious! and they have weight added to their feet.  they just feel so good in the hands.  While a lot of people complain about them, I know there are more of us who love them because they are kinda hard to find....if no one likes them, then where are they?

Taffeta:  It's my pony, and I'll cry if i want to.  I agree with both your position and the one you disagree with as to we can do what we want to them...I'm all mixed up on the issue.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cswift on May 20, 2017, 10:19:18 AM
I've seen a lot less of this than I hear people complain about, and I think hypocrisy is a tempting two-way street.  Also bronies aren't going away with the end of G4 any more than anyone here quit being interested in My Little Pony when G1 stopped.  Diverse fans of MLP are going to have to learn to get along, and i believe one day we will.

Oh, definitely, I've seen it the other way around too. It really bothers me when people automatically treat bronies like they are dangerous perverts. I actually recently had something happen where a friend of mine was presenting an academic paper on the brony phenomenon, and somebody actually left the room because she apparently didn't "feel safe around bronies." =/ Maybe she had a bad experience, but it was a room full of academics. What could have even happened?

Hm...another unpopular opinion...maybe this one isn't so much "unpopular" as just weird, but I feel like as the generations went on, the pony names started getting worse and worse. In G1 there's often some kind of poetic device behind them -- "Cherry Treats" is alliterative (in sound if not in spelling,) "Night Glider" utilizes assonance, "Moondancer" utilizes consonance, "Up, Up and Away" references a turn of phrase, etc. But the later you get the more you get names like "Twilight Sparkle" and "Rainbow Dash" that don't really have any rhyme or reason. It bothers me a little, LOL

Of course, G1 had some unforgivable names too. "Yum-Yum?" Really? :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on May 20, 2017, 11:43:43 AM
I don't think all bronies are going to disappear after G4 ends, either. Sure some of them probably will, but others are prolly in for the long haul like us :P.

Hm...another unpopular opinion...maybe this one isn't so much "unpopular" as just weird, but I feel like as the generations went on, the pony names started getting worse and worse. In G1 there's often some kind of poetic device behind them -- "Cherry Treats" is alliterative (in sound if not in spelling,) "Night Glider" utilizes assonance, "Moondancer" utilizes consonance, "Up, Up and Away" references a turn of phrase, etc. But the later you get the more you get names like "Twilight Sparkle" and "Rainbow Dash" that don't really have any rhyme or reason. It bothers me a little, LOL

Of course, G1 had some unforgivable names too. "Yum-Yum?" Really? :P

Oh, I'm definitely with you on there. I think part of the problem is that from G3 onwards, they started going for names that were easier to trademark, etc - I remember reading once (anyone remember where it was? It was the same thing where they confirmed Waterfire was named after the fireworks show thing IIRC) that they tend more towards made-up names like Scootaloo and Tink-A-Tink-A-Too because a) they're easier to trademark than generic stuff like Firefly or Ivy and b) they don't need to be changed for overseas markets, so it's less hassle. Which makes sense to me. Some G3 and G4 names are truly dreadful though :P

(G2 names got a bit weird near the end, too. Springly? Springdy??)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on May 20, 2017, 06:02:34 PM
Wow Cswift, bronies are powerful!  They can drive hordes before them, merely at the mention of their name (like Monstro the whale in Pinocchio).  I must learn this forbidden jutsu...and I'd love to read your friend's research paper.

I was reading Equestria Daily for the first time the other day and found a link to a compilation of sayings by Mr Freeze in some video game, with a pony reference in it:  Harley Quinn asks him for a pony and he answers "it will make the twilight sparkle". (i guess that means it's a glitter pony)

i don't know the linguistic (or should I say "linguistical" since I'm probably using the word wrong anyway) concept for names like Rainbow Dash or Pinkie Pie or Lightning Dust, but they do have a certain rhythm, or cadence to them.  Names like "Pretzel" though....that's just a noun.  Rarity is an adjective (i think, it's a concept anyway not an object) and Spike's name is not only cool, but directly from G1, though he's not a pony so that's inapplicable.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 31, 2017, 11:55:32 AM
I like Sherbert more then Scoops and Sweet Scoops.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jinxxy on May 31, 2017, 12:06:26 PM
I hate G3 plastic.
I never liked the iridescent quality to it. I remember when they first released G3 and I thought that Pinkie Pie looked sweaty.
I loved when they started releasing the tropical matte ponies... I breathed a sigh of relief.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponycake on May 31, 2017, 08:17:08 PM
I like Sherbert more then Scoops and Sweet Scoops.

Yas, Sherbet doesn't get enough love.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on June 01, 2017, 02:25:25 PM
I don't like the 2nd set of Princess ponies.  The tinsel topknot is weird and their symbols are just random geometric shapes instead recognizable objects.

Also the yellow one looks completely stoned.  (Although that actually makes me like her slightly more than the others, lol.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on June 01, 2017, 04:16:17 PM
I don't like the 2nd set of Princess ponies.  The tinsel topknot is weird and their symbols are just random geometric shapes instead recognizable objects.

I'm with you on this one. It's a shame because I would absolutely love them if not for that ridiculous looking tinsel.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: NightGliderSA on June 02, 2017, 12:57:11 AM
There is one thing that bugs me about Hasbro in the G1 line: Why did they release different ponies with the same name? Take Bright Eyes as a random example. Could they not have thought up a new name for the new pony? I mean, really? Grrrr.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khayman81 on June 02, 2017, 03:40:02 AM
There is one thing that bugs me about Hasbro in the G1 line: Why did they release different ponies with the same name? Take Bright Eyes as a random example. Could they not have thought up a new name for the new pony? I mean, really? Grrrr.
I think they were/are just lazy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 02, 2017, 04:30:03 AM
I don't like the 2nd set of Princess ponies.  The tinsel topknot is weird and their symbols are just random geometric shapes instead recognizable objects.

Also the yellow one looks completely stoned.  (Although that actually makes me like her slightly more than the others, lol.)

I'm pretty sure there's a shield among the symbols? That seems quite regal to me.

I can't pretend I don't like this set, given my name, but I will say that they look better when they have the clip or the hair is not sticking up like a fountain without the clip. And Moondust is definitely a little stoned. But I like the modifications for the poses in this set a lot more than the ones for the Sundae Best for some reason. No idea why.  I adopted Taffeta sort of randomly without ever having seen her because all the names I wanted were taken, and she had pretty colours. Obviously I love her and her set, but I have no idea why their poses offend me less than the Sundae Best.

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There is one thing that bugs me about Hasbro in the G1 line: Why did they release different ponies with the same name? Take Bright Eyes as a random example. Could they not have thought up a new name for the new pony? I mean, really? Grrrr.
They only did this in the US. With one exception, in the UK line all ponies had different names. Duplicated names in the US line were either renamed in the UK line to have their own name, or they weren't sold here. (Bright Eyes was the latter). In the US, there are three ponies called Sea Breeze - an adult sea pony, a baby sea pony and a tropical pony. In the UK, there are none - we had neither sea pony here, and the tropical pony is Surfing Days.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SilverHorsey on June 02, 2017, 08:58:11 AM
I like G3.5 :lookround:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: The_Loner on June 02, 2017, 10:13:08 AM
I like G3.5 :lookround:
:thumb:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 02, 2017, 10:54:37 AM
There is one thing that bugs me about Hasbro in the G1 line: Why did they release different ponies with the same name? Take Bright Eyes as a random example. Could they not have thought up a new name for the new pony? I mean, really? Grrrr.

When you make a thousand ponies in ten years, some names may be forgotten and re-used. Plus they used some names for members of their other toylines too. They may have just liked some of the names as well. This is just my personal theory.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cswift on June 03, 2017, 11:44:01 AM
I don't like the 2nd set of Princess ponies.  The tinsel topknot is weird and their symbols are just random geometric shapes instead recognizable objects.

I'm with you on the hair. Tinsel in doll hair in general is one of my biggest pet peeves. The stuff takes about two seconds to crinkle irreversibly and then it just sticks out every which way and makes the doll look unkempt no matter how meticulous you are and argh. It makes me *frumple*.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 05, 2017, 09:43:30 AM
I don't like the 2nd set of Princess ponies.  The tinsel topknot is weird and their symbols are just random geometric shapes instead recognizable objects.

I'm with you on the hair. Tinsel in doll hair in general is one of my biggest pet peeves. The stuff takes about two seconds to crinkle irreversibly and then it just sticks out every which way and makes the doll look unkempt no matter how meticulous you are and argh. It makes me *frumple*.

I can sort of relate to that with dolls, though I tend to put up with it in ponies. My favourite Jem character is Jetta, but because her doll has tinsel, she is not my favourite there. I did actually rip all the tinsel out of one of my more battered Jetta dolls. She looked so much better for it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 05, 2017, 09:52:46 AM
I think some of the UK names for the Big Brothers are better. I used to call my Salty Tugboat, because I didn't understand and thought it was stupid. Still do actually. Imagine my surprise when I found out here his UK name is Tug.

Tracks and Trucker make more sense.  I don't know if Chief, Tex, Wigwam and Barnacle have different names over there?

Slugger's  name suits him best. First Base I get, but it also has uh... different connotations.

I think Chief should have either had red/yellow hair or red/blue hair and been given a different name. I know there are Fire Chiefs, but kids are more likely to associate white, yellow and blue with Chief of Police. I kinda wish there was a cop pony with Chief's color scheme.

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I'm not to keen on the newborn poses. I think G3 babies are precious. Wish they'd made more pegasus and added some baby unicorns.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on June 05, 2017, 10:39:24 AM
You guys inspired me to look up the 2nd set of princess ponies and you're right, one has a shield symbol and one has a tulip. Sunbeam has a circle, but I guess that could count as a very abstract representation of the sun?  So as a group, I don't mind them as much as I first thought. ;)  I still am not fond of Pristina's parallelogram or Taffeta and Misty's ovals though, lol.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 05, 2017, 01:10:04 PM
You guys inspired me to look up the 2nd set of princess ponies and you're right, one has a shield symbol and one has a tulip. Sunbeam has a circle, but I guess that could count as a very abstract representation of the sun?  So as a group, I don't mind them as much as I first thought. ;)  I still am not fond of Pristina's parallelogram or Taffeta and Misty's ovals though, lol.

I always thought they were meant to be pendants.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 05, 2017, 04:16:06 PM
I think some of the UK names for the Big Brothers are better. I used to call my Salty Tugboat, because I didn't understand and thought it was stupid. Still do actually. Imagine my surprise when I found out here his UK name is Tug.

Tracks and Trucker make more sense. 
*polishes her crystal ball* xD
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I don't know if Chief, Tex, Wigwam and Barnacle have different names over there?

Nope. It's Tracks for Steamer, Tug for Salty, First Base for Slugger and Trucker for 4Speed. The ones you mention above have the same names.
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Slugger's  name suits him best. First Base I get, but it also has uh... different connotations.
I know the meaning you mean, LOL, but that meaning isn't really in the UK. If Crumpet had been sold here though, hers does...

Slugger is also not a very UK word, so it always sounds to me like he spends his time distributing slug pellets. It's not really common in British slang to talk about 'slugging' a ball (although we do have 'slogger', which means someone who works hard, dunno if that is also stateside) but although we don't really have baseball here, we do have rounders which has bases and is similar, so I guess Hasbro didn't really think it through on a wider scale.

I remember when Kiwi Tart the G3 first appeared in stores she appeared in New Zealand, which just kind of showed that they don't always think these things through...

Going back on topic, another unpopular opinion I have which relates to names is that Cherry Berry is the proper name for one of the ponies in the G1 Sundae Best set, because it appears on a US catalogue promo photo as the name on a MOC pony, even though it only ever made it to store shelves as a pony name in the UK. Cherry Berry does not belong to G4. Cherry Berry comes from G1 and I think Hasbro's colouring of the G4 Cherry Berry is too coincidentally close to the G1 pony to be an accident. In short, my unpopular opinion is that the UK name here is the official and original name.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 05, 2017, 04:22:55 PM
Step away from the crystal ball. :silly:

Thanks for verifying which boys had which names.

It's always neat hearing about differences and names from other parts of the world.  I've never heard of rounders before.

 No, Hasbro doesn't always think things through. I can think of quite a few examples in and out of the MLP franchise that's rather questionable since we hit adulthood and  acceptance of words and social attitudes shift over time.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 06, 2017, 08:25:26 AM
Step away from the crystal ball. :silly:


Meanie . :P  xD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 06, 2017, 11:47:01 AM
Step away from the crystal ball. :silly:


Meanie . :P  xD

:snicker: :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 20, 2017, 08:37:23 AM
It personally irritates me that people swap genders. I would never argue with them over it, because they're not my toys and that's just rude, but it bugs me all the same.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 21, 2017, 08:24:42 AM
It personally irritates me that people swap genders. I would never argue with them over it, because they're not my toys and that's just rude, but it bugs me all the same.

On one of the pony cassettes I was listening to the other day, it stated Moondancer was a he. That was an American cassette. It confused me because I am sure Moondancer is 'she' on the backcard...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 21, 2017, 08:27:37 AM
It personally irritates me that people swap genders. I would never argue with them over it, because they're not my toys and that's just rude, but it bugs me all the same.

On one of the pony cassettes I was listening to the other day, it stated Moondancer was a he. That was an American cassette. It confused me because I am sure Moondancer is 'she' on the backcard...

Really? That's interesting.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Olympus on June 21, 2017, 08:39:30 AM
Ooh! Can I jump in on this?

- I don't like Trixie. Like... at all. I don't understand her appeal.

- Aside from a few certain ponies, I don't like G3 all that much.

- Ponywear is kind of silly and unnecessary.

- Were there any male Flutter Ponies? I feel like there should be more male Flutter Ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 21, 2017, 08:43:50 AM
It personally irritates me that people swap genders. I would never argue with them over it, because they're not my toys and that's just rude, but it bugs me all the same.

On one of the pony cassettes I was listening to the other day, it stated Moondancer was a he. That was an American cassette. It confused me because I am sure Moondancer is 'she' on the backcard...

Really? That's interesting.

Yep. There's one UK book as well that I *think* switches genders between the first and second edition for some of the ponies (Seashell maybe? Applejack maybe?) Someone probably remembers more clearly. And of course newborn twin Sniffles with the horn is a boy officially in the UK and not in the US.

I sort of agree with you. I mean, it's up to every person to choose, but I try to keep the genders as they are. I think it's fine for Baby Schoolbag and for Sportstime to be slightly less "macho" boy ponies, and I think it's cool for Sniffles to be a boy, because it means that (in the UK at least) there's a first generation unicorn.

I wish my keyboard still remembered how to type the number that comes before 2. It is very hard to talk about generation one ponies without that number key functioning.

@ Olympus - I don't really know Trixie's character, but I think she's one of the prettier G4 pony toys. I think she's a bit of a narcissist in the show? I can imagine how that might put someone off her...

Ponywear is both silly and unnecessary. But sometimes that makes it fun. I always wanted to be able to dress my ponies up in a spacesuit. That is still a dream unfulfilled, as I still don't have a complete Ponynaut.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Olympus on June 21, 2017, 08:57:56 AM
It personally irritates me that people swap genders. I would never argue with them over it, because they're not my toys and that's just rude, but it bugs me all the same.

On one of the pony cassettes I was listening to the other day, it stated Moondancer was a he. That was an American cassette. It confused me because I am sure Moondancer is 'she' on the backcard...

Really? That's interesting.

Yep. There's one UK book as well that I *think* switches genders between the first and second edition for some of the ponies (Seashell maybe? Applejack maybe?) Someone probably remembers more clearly. And of course newborn twin Sniffles with the horn is a boy officially in the UK and not in the US.

I sort of agree with you. I mean, it's up to every person to choose, but I try to keep the genders as they are. I think it's fine for Baby Schoolbag and for Sportstime to be slightly less "macho" boy ponies, and I think it's cool for Sniffles to be a boy, because it means that (in the UK at least) there's a first generation unicorn.

I wish my keyboard still remembered how to type the number that comes before 2. It is very hard to talk about generation one ponies without that number key functioning.

@ Olympus - I don't really know Trixie's character, but I think she's one of the prettier G4 pony toys. I think she's a bit of a narcissist in the show? I can imagine how that might put someone off her...

Ponywear is both silly and unnecessary. But sometimes that makes it fun. I always wanted to be able to dress my ponies up in a spacesuit. That is still a dream unfulfilled, as I still don't have a complete Ponynaut.

I guess Trixie is slowly getting better as the seasons go on, but there are still plenty of moments where I just want to grab her and give her a shake. Can't deny that her color scheme is really pretty, though!

I had no idea that there was a pony spacesuit. Does it come with a little helmet?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 21, 2017, 09:02:29 AM

I had no idea that there was a pony spacesuit. Does it come with a little helmet?

It does indeed :D. That's the piece I still have never managed to get hold of :( I imagine it looks really cute. That set of outfits is the most ridiculous. But I love the idea of sending a pony into space...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Olympus on June 21, 2017, 09:23:54 AM

I had no idea that there was a pony spacesuit. Does it come with a little helmet?

It does indeed :D. That's the piece I still have never managed to get hold of :( I imagine it looks really cute. That set of outfits is the most ridiculous. But I love the idea of sending a pony into space...

I hope you one day get that piece! Though I'd imagine that it could be broken pretty easily depending on the quality of the plastic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 21, 2017, 09:33:40 AM

I had no idea that there was a pony spacesuit. Does it come with a little helmet?

It does indeed :D. That's the piece I still have never managed to get hold of :( I imagine it looks really cute. That set of outfits is the most ridiculous. But I love the idea of sending a pony into space...

I hope you one day get that piece! Though I'd imagine that it could be broken pretty easily depending on the quality of the plastic.

Thank you :D. Yeah, I think it might end up being a MOC hunt, although then there'd never be a dress up opportunity. Oh well.

Back on topic.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 21, 2017, 12:46:09 PM
Oooh, that's interesting about Moondancer being a boy in one tape :o Never heard about that. And then there's the Wedding Prance porcelain with male-Glory..

I find gender-bending ponies to be a bit odd too but to each their own :P Unless it's a situation like with Sniffles where they do have different genders in different countries (I know some of the Nirvanas were genderswapped too.. Italian Gusty [Gustavo] is a boy I believe, then there's the Mexican princes.. etc etc. Not to mention Re Unicorno, he's a boy G1 unicorn! But I'm rambling, haha), but yeah. I mean, if others want to do it then that's cool, but it's not for me.

Olympus - nope, there weren't any boy Flutters :( Those would've been great.. and baby Flutters, those would've been adorable! I guess Wingers are the next best thing, but it's still not *the same*..
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on June 21, 2017, 03:30:41 PM
Wingers were originally planned to be baby flutters, but at some point their concept was changed to the adult Summer Wings and later Windy Wings that we know today. :)  I remember Ruth Bush (former Hasbro artist/designer/molder) mentioning that.

Edit: Or to be more accurate I remember BlushingBlue telling me about the presentation . . . Credit where credit is due. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 21, 2017, 03:37:16 PM
Wingers were originally planned to be baby flutters, but at some point their concept was changed to the adult Summer Wings and later Windy Wings that we know today. :)  I remember Ruth Bush (former Hasbro artist/designer/molder) mentioning that.

Oooh, I didn't know that :O How interesting, aaaa. I love how many things there are about G1 that are still unknown :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 21, 2017, 04:00:09 PM
Wingers were originally planned to be baby flutters, but at some point their concept was changed to the adult Summer Wings and later Windy Wings that we know today. :)  I remember Ruth Bush (former Hasbro artist/designer/molder) mentioning that.

Really? I didn't know that! Which would you have preferred? The original concept or the one we got?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on June 22, 2017, 10:57:50 AM
Wingers were originally planned to be baby flutters, but at some point their concept was changed to the adult Summer Wings and later Windy Wings that we know today. :)  I remember Ruth Bush (former Hasbro artist/designer/molder) mentioning that.
Wingers are supposed to be adult ponies? O_o
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 22, 2017, 11:06:01 AM
Wingers were originally planned to be baby flutters, but at some point their concept was changed to the adult Summer Wings and later Windy Wings that we know today. :)  I remember Ruth Bush (former Hasbro artist/designer/molder) mentioning that.
Wingers are supposed to be adult ponies? O_o

They always were written that way in the comics here...adults, just little.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on June 22, 2017, 11:39:21 AM
Yes, they're small adults.  :)  If you look at their faces compared to the baby ponies, their features are more "adult" and refined.  Like, less chubby, smaller eyes in comparison to their faces, stuff like that.  (I assume the molds had more baby-ish faces when they were intended to be baby flutters.)

It's really hard to say which concept I like more--I love baby ponies (except newborns and teeny tinies, ha ha well I guess I like 'some' baby ponies), but I do love the wingers as they are now.

Edit:  Here's a picture from Ruth Bush's presentation at Pony Fair, thanks to ShelvesOfWhimsy's camera skills.  *waves*

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The wingers prototype are three pictures to the left of the pony sink sketch, with the stand-in pipecleaner wings. ;)

I also spy Bonnie Bonnets, TAF Buttons, and Night Glider in different poses!  Wow, I really dig TAF Buttons in Mimic's pose.  Also a picnic giftpack that looks like it was going to have five ponies, including a male pony.  What could have been . . .
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: The_Loner on June 22, 2017, 12:02:10 PM
Edit:  Here's a picture from Ruth Bush's presentation at Pony Fair, thanks to ShelvesOfWhimsy's camera skills.  *waves*

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The 'baby flutter' / wingers prototypes are three pictures to the left of the pony sink sketch, with the stand-in pipecleaner wings. ;)

Wow, that is really cool!! I would love to poke around Hasbro's MLP archieves!! What is the Pony Fair? Is it a special Hasbro event?

Sorry for getting off topic :lookround:

Uhm, to keep it on topic....hmmm...I'm not that crazy about the Friendship is Magic cartoon. I like it to a degree but I think the ponies often are too silly and I don't like the drawing style.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 22, 2017, 01:04:37 PM
Yes, they're small adults.  :)  If you look at their faces compared to the baby ponies, their features are more "adult" and refined.  Like, less chubby, smaller eyes in comparison to their faces, stuff like that.  (I assume the molds had more baby-ish faces when they were intended to be baby flutters.)

It's really hard to say which concept I like more--I love baby ponies (except newborns and teeny tinies, ha ha well I guess I like 'some' baby ponies), but I do love the wingers as they are now.

Edit:  Here's a picture from Ruth Bush's presentation at Pony Fair, thanks to ShelvesOfWhimsy's camera skills.  *waves*

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The 'baby flutter' / wingers prototypes are three pictures to the left of the pony sink sketch, with the stand-in pipecleaner wings. ;)

*DROOL*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on June 24, 2017, 10:02:30 PM
I really like G3.5s. Lack of character variety aside, I think they're cute and I really appreciate that they went through the effort of making all the characters different sizes from one another (of course if it wasn't for the lack of character variety I'm sure they wouldn't have done that). I think they're cute and I love all their unique hair styles, not to mention just how much hair they have. Makes it very fun to brush their hair. I especially cannot get over Cheerilee's cute pigtails.

Also with 3.5, I also like the newborn cuties. I think it's the short, curly hair they have that I love so much.

I also like the EqG dolls, unfortunately due to their size they're more expensive than regular ponies so I only have two of them. Just like 3.5s, them having a lot of hair makes it fun to brush. I do wish they'd stand up easier however.

I can't really think of any unpopular opinions for things other people like that I don't. I guess I'm just not very picky with my ponies. As long as they're not fakies I'll take them!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cswift on June 24, 2017, 11:02:53 PM
My sister recently bought a G4.5 for her daughter, and while I was solidly in the "no thank you" camp previously, I feel myself...warming to them? Sure, their anatomy is totally wonk and their hair is weird and greasy, but there's something lovable about those goofy faces and I appreciate that they're a lot more expressive than G4s. I'm particularly weak for the open-mouthed molds.

I still don't really think of them as actual horses though, LOL
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: AnWren on June 25, 2017, 04:25:36 AM
Ahh to be honest I REALLY dislike G4's  :( I don't mind the animations I suppose, but I honestly think the toys just look quite cheap and carelessly made. And there's so many duplicates? Like they're the exact same pony but with maybe a different colour scheme, I don't get it. No shame for liking them, they just aren't my taste.
G3.5's also make me cringe xD I can't even give a reason for it, just nope.
Then again, while G3's are my FAVS they're also not always perfect. Sometimes the animations make me cringe too.
I don't know why so many people don't like 3D cutie marks either but I LOVE THEM.

Post Merge: June 25, 2017, 04:38:01 AM

It personally irritates me that people swap genders. I would never argue with them over it, because they're not my toys and that's just rude, but it bugs me all the same.

Do you mean when people just do it with their own ponies? I guess I do it sometimes, since I grew up with G3's and honestly I don't think I remember ANY boy ponies xD so as a kid I sort of assumed at least some of them were and genuinely though that certain ones were boys, so I never quite got out of the habit aha.. as a collecter that's a boy it's kind of just nice to think of a few as not being girls, makes them sort of more relatable I feel- not trying to take away from the original characters or anything!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SkyCakes on June 25, 2017, 05:24:34 PM
I guess this is unpopular but, I only think girl ponies; girls and boy ponies; boys. I dont try to make them different genders. Someone tried to bully me into their way of thinking I was like nope. I also dont care for G2s. I think they look like deer. Though I do like their colors that is about all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: wizzer218 on June 25, 2017, 06:55:25 PM
Well I love all g1 ponies except TAKARA ponies from Japan....they look like soulless teddy bears and Definitely do not make me think of my Little Ponies

G3.5 terrible body molds...bleh

Oh yeah love big Macintosh from fim reminds of big brothers!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on June 25, 2017, 10:55:52 PM

I had no idea that there was a pony spacesuit. Does it come with a little helmet?

It does indeed :D. That's the piece I still have never managed to get hold of :( I imagine it looks really cute. That set of outfits is the most ridiculous. But I love the idea of sending a pony into space...

I saw a picture of the G1 spacesuit ponywear, it's adorable!  Not very well sealed though...seems pony rumps are vacuum-proof.

Since I think you don't watch FiM, Taffeta, you probably have not seen Rainbow Dash's Nightmare Night astronaut costume (which is super cute):
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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: mlly on June 25, 2017, 10:57:34 PM
I don't know how unpopular this is since it looks like there's a few other people who also share this opinion, but it might seem controversial outside of MLP collector spaces.
I just feel like letting it out again.

I genuinely want for G4 to finally, and completely, -END-

I can't deny that it was G4 that got me into ponies in the first place, but G4's appeal to me lasted for only a short time as the brand and its marketing has become so warped and far removed from what made me fall in love with ponies in the first place.

Well I love all g1 ponies except TAKARA ponies from Japan....they look like soulless teddy bears and Definitely do not make me think of my Little Ponies

G3.5 terrible body molds...bleh

Oh yeah love big Macintosh from fim reminds of big brothers!!

I find Takara ponies ugly too.
Which is why I don't really get why they're so sought after either...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 26, 2017, 09:26:35 AM
I think it's dumb that ponies earn their symbols these days and that it's given such importance in their society and that they are essentially locked into a job for the rest of their lives. We've had 3 generations where they were born with it, so what happened exactly? What would they think of ponies who were born with it?  What would they think of pony races/species not born with it at all like sea ponies or Bright Valley ponies? Why did Breezies and Merponies go from having them to not having them?


I like the Bubblefish, Daffidazey, Quackers and Periwinkle poses. I like rearing poses in all gens and wish we'd gotten more in G1 and G3. Wish they'd made boys in rearing poses too.

I wish we'd gotten laying down ponies. I know people might complain that they aren't good for play, but that didn't stop us from playing with any pose that just stands there.

Alot of people say that older gens have more pose variety then this one, yeah it is true, but a lot of those poses are standing poses. Lofty, Bowtie, Waterfire, Sweetberry Steamer, Wysteria. They outstrip the walking, rearing, sitting and running poses.

I think the prices for pony hats and crowns are ridiculous. Yeah I get it, kids tend to lose little things like that, but $10-$20 or pushing a pony's price as high up as $70 just because they've got their hat is outrageous!

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on June 26, 2017, 09:38:29 AM
I think it's dumb that ponies earn their symbols these days and that it's given such importance in their society. We had 3 generations where they were born with it, so what happened exactly? What would they think of ponies who were born with it. What would they think of pony races/species not born with it at all like sea ponies or Bright Valley ponies? Why did Breezies and Merponies go from having them to not having them?




I think FIM does put too much emphasis on earing a cutie mark and how it determines a pony's place is society. What is a pony got a cutie mark they didn't like are they stuck forever doing that talent?

  I always wondered if Hasbro had plans for Baby Ember's symbol later on but then dropped the idea when they decided to only focus on ponies that were being sold at the time in the cartoons. 


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 26, 2017, 10:02:46 AM
Well one version of Baby Ember does have a star.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on June 26, 2017, 10:05:33 AM

I had no idea that there was a pony spacesuit. Does it come with a little helmet?

It does indeed :D. That's the piece I still have never managed to get hold of :( I imagine it looks really cute. That set of outfits is the most ridiculous. But I love the idea of sending a pony into space...

I saw a picture of the G1 spacesuit ponywear, it's adorable!  Not very well sealed though...seems pony rumps are vacuum-proof.

Since I think you don't watch FiM, Taffeta, you probably have not seen Rainbow Dash's Nightmare Night astronaut costume (which is super cute):
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WHY CANT THIS BE A REAL PONY WEAR OUTFIT!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cswift on June 26, 2017, 10:08:16 AM
I think FIM does put too much emphasis on earing a cutie mark and how it determines a pony's place is society. What is a pony got a cutie mark they didn't like are they stuck forever doing that talent?

I think the idea is that if the pony didn't like doing it, it wouldn't be their special talent...which is, of course, silly. Plenty of people are talented at things they wouldn't want to do all the time. I love music and have a knack for it but I'd never want it to be a job.

I also agree that cutie marks being connected to that pony's specific place in society is a bit irksome, but for different reasons -- I feel like before that was established as lore, Hasbro felt a bit more free to just create symbols that looked nice since they didn't necessarily have to mean anything. What would the deal with Twice as Fancy ponies be? Would they be mega-ultra-talented? Would Munchy's talent be making excellent fast food? 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on June 26, 2017, 10:12:09 AM
That reminds me of something that annoys me, which is when people describe the G4 pose with one front leg bent as "the walking pose".  That is NOT a walking pose.  The other three feet are planted flat on the ground and none of the other legs are bent; the pony is not walking.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 26, 2017, 12:02:03 PM
Yeah, the symbol thing bothers me too, especially since it's inconsistent. It's a decent idea, but then they don't really seem to do anything with it, from what I've seen/heard of the show? What -does- happen if a pony 'rejects' their ~special talent~? Plus then it opens up plot holes (how come Silver Spoon and Diamond Tiara's symbols just happen to match their names, what the heck kind of talent does a spoon symbolize, etc), plus some of them just don't make sense (I know Bon Bon/Sweetie Drops' symbol was just picked at random and her personality came later, but what does being a secret agent have to do with candy? o-O). Plus yeah, it does feel kinda limiting at times.

Why did Breezies and Merponies go from having them to not having them?

This really bothers me, too!!!! How come only "normal" ponies get symbols now? (And why does Zecora have one anyway, in spite of that?)

and omg, lying down ponies would be so cute!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 26, 2017, 02:03:01 PM
That reminds me of something that annoys me, which is when people describe the G4 pose with one front leg bent as "the walking pose".  That is NOT a walking pose.  The other three feet are planted flat on the ground and none of the other legs are bent; the pony is not walking.

Your post made me happy.

Post Merge: June 26, 2017, 02:07:32 PM

I think FIM does put too much emphasis on earing a cutie mark and how it determines a pony's place is society. What is a pony got a cutie mark they didn't like are they stuck forever doing that talent?

I think the idea is that if the pony didn't like doing it, it wouldn't be their special talent...which is, of course, silly. Plenty of people are talented at things they wouldn't want to do all the time. I love music and have a knack for it but I'd never want it to be a job.

I also agree that cutie marks being connected to that pony's specific place in society is a bit irksome, but for different reasons -- I feel like before that was established as lore, Hasbro felt a bit more free to just create symbols that looked nice since they didn't necessarily have to mean anything. What would the deal with Twice as Fancy ponies be? Would they be mega-ultra-talented? Would Munchy's talent be making excellent fast food?

Well some might get tired of it eventually, what if they wanted to do something else later?

Munchy secretly took over McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's and Weinerschnitzel. She's sitting there amidst her multi-million dollar corporation, firing people left and right with a distinctly creepy Mr. Burns voice.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on June 26, 2017, 02:41:56 PM
I always forget about Ember with a star symbol.  I think G1 and G3 were more creative with symbols and the emphasis on it being so important in G4 does become tiring. It took way to long for the CMC to earn their cutie marks.



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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 26, 2017, 04:05:18 PM
Ooooh, don't even get me started on the CMC's symbols :stressed: It took them THAT long to get them and then they're basically all the same, kinda ugly, and don't even look match their body colours?!? >___<!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on June 26, 2017, 04:09:32 PM
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WHY CANT THIS BE A REAL PONY WEAR OUTFIT!
I know right??  I'd like to see most of the Nightmare Night costumes as ponywear, I think we did get a couple of them but I'm not sure, maybe the chicken suit?


That reminds me of something that annoys me, which is when people describe the G4 pose with one front leg bent as "the walking pose".  That is NOT a walking pose.  The other three feet are planted flat on the ground and none of the other legs are bent; the pony is not walking.
I call that the "bent leg" pose and it's an improvement but no, not walking.  As to poses, at least now some of the Guardian of Harmony poseable action figures let us put them into our own poses even though there's a disclaimer right on the box that we have to "hand-support" the poses, haha.  I'm going to make some stands to help them keep the poses I like and for now I position them very carefully so they can just barely balance and stand up on display for me.


Ah, cutie marks.  The stupidest thing about them is the name, and even the show makes fun of them, remember Applebloom's bug spray pony nightmare?  I hated the CMCs for a long time just because they keep saying "cutie mark" all the time.  I use the term "symbol", thanks G1!  Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon would tease seaponies as Blank Tails I guess.  Lastly, Zecora's mark isn't clearly a cutie mark, it could just be part of her color scheme. 

It'd be cool if we could simply agree to drop cutie marks from the show entirely and never speak of them again.  Sigh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on June 26, 2017, 04:16:40 PM
Ooooh, don't even get me started on the CMC's symbols :stressed: It took them THAT long to get them and then they're basically all the same, kinda ugly, and don't even look match their body colours?!? >___<!!!

Right?  And after all the hinting that they did in the talent show episode (and even other episodes) I figured Sweetie Belle would have a musical cutie mark and Scootaloo's would have something to do with being a daredevil.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on June 26, 2017, 04:38:06 PM
Ooooh, don't even get me started on the CMC's symbols :stressed: It took them THAT long to get them and then they're basically all the same, kinda ugly, and don't even look match their body colours?!? >___<!!!

I took a look and went that is SO LAZY , and blah those colors.... meh...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 26, 2017, 04:38:37 PM
Not to mention no new updated toys.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jorgito93 on June 26, 2017, 04:46:24 PM
Not to mention no new updated toys.
I still don't understand that.Like seriously hasbro,you sell the same mane 6 over and over with only small differences and when the cmc get their cutie mark you don't make a version of them with it when that would be a logical thing to do?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 26, 2017, 06:07:48 PM
Not to mention no new updated toys.
I still don't understand that.Like seriously hasbro,you sell the same mane 6 over and over with only small differences and when the cmc get their cutie mark you don't make a version of them with it when that would be a logical thing to do?

Hasbro use logic? That'll be the day. :silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on June 26, 2017, 07:26:11 PM
Ah, cutie marks.  The stupidest thing about them is the name, and even the show makes fun of them

Although let's not forget - the name was not given to them for FiM/G4. Generation 3 is what started the term "cutie mark", I doubt the show had much of a choice but to continue using the term.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 27, 2017, 03:02:13 AM
Seems to me that disliking cutie marks/the concept/the name is a popular opinion xD.
I admit that I've hated the term since it first appeared in G3 so haven't ever used it. The G4 restrictions on ponies/cutie marks/talents seems morally wrong to me somehow, by pigeonholing them into an identity they MUST have rather than one they choose to have. But I am not familiar enough with the show to know how much of an issue that really is.

@Lostpony -that spacesuit is admittedly quite cool. But G4 pony 'outfits' are so much moulded from plastic that I am quite glad they didn't make it. If Ponywear isn't predominately fabric then I'm not interested...

Lying down ponies. I guess the best you can manage here is a ballerina in 'full split' mode..?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on June 27, 2017, 02:19:37 PM
I was sure I saw CMCs with their symbols, did I imagine that?

G3's symbols are ok as Cutie Marks because they're cute, and don't have the significance of G4 symbols. 

When your symbol is a brand that dictates your life's potential I don't think that's "cute".  On the other hand, I'm not sure they so much dictate what job you are supposed to have as express your talent....real life shows us that we can have jobs that have nothing to do with our talents and further, I think the whole point of the CMCs isn't to help "find" cutie marks but to understand them....Diamond Tiara for example.  She thinks her talent is getting people to do what she wants, and even after reformation still doesn't realize that her symbol represents leadership, not manipulation (there's a difference)...the CMCs were at their best helping Troubleshoes figure out his talent, but they completely fail to grasp that they got their marks when they figured out about helping other ponies understand theirs.  It's amazing they ever got them at all considering they still don't understand what they did right to get them.  Eh.  I wonder if FiM originally intended symbols to be such a big deal or if that developed over time, because it is a bit overdone.

Yup, Taffeta, a lot of opinions expressed in this thread are off topic as they are not "unpopular" at all, haha.  I'm completely there with you as to fabric ponywear...I love the miniature sewed clothing especially when it fits right.  So satisfying.  I actually kinda like the rubber ponywear too...but not the hard plastic.  Ug.

Oh, to go on about the spacesuit some more....I especially liked the way it was physically present in the episode:  when Rainbow speaks, her voice sounds like it's coming through the helmet and in a scene where they are eating candy, the helmet is 1/3 full of candy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 27, 2017, 04:50:23 PM
I'm just personally not a fan of putting people/ponies/characters into 'boxes'.
(Although I like G1 ponies in their original packaging boxes so that makes me a hypocrite).

I remember making a graduation outfit for my G3 Rainbow Dash so she could come graduate with me in 2003 when I got my first degree. She had a little black mortar board and everything. That was back when I liked Rainbow Dash because she was a rainbow pony like my first pony Windy. To bring this to an on topic conclusion...

I liked Rainbow Dash better when she didn't have wings. To be more specific, I consider the G3 Dash the real Dash and that the G4 pony should have had a different name and colour scheme.

Although I DID take a G4 Dash to my MA graduation, for continuity's sake, so maybe I'm a hypocrite there as well.

Also a weird maybe unpopular opinion I realised during this discussion.

I tried really hard to like FIM when it came out, and I watched maybe the first season, but I couldn't connect to it. I don't like any of the characters, and I don't really like when kids shows try to make out that everyone can make friends easily by being 'nice'. It happens in a lot of shows, but that's not reality and it really isn't helping the kids who struggle to make friends because they are different or shy or awkward. So I never could get into FIM and I really don't like the Mane 6. Most of them annoy me.

The reason that this is an odd unpopular opinion is that although those same mane 6 have the pretty much exact same personalities in the Equestria Girls movies, I don't find them annoying. I don't dislike any of them. Which to me is really weird. I think the reason I dislike FIM and don't dislike EQG characters even though they are principally the same is because of Sunset Shimmer running like a connective thread through their friendship. Even though every EQG movie ends in exactly the same way, the fact Sunset Shimmer's character evolves and goes full circle actually makes the Mane 6 attractive characters to me in a way they aren't in the FIM cartoon.

I have no idea if Sunset Shimmer is ever in FIM, nor do I know how they explain the so far unexplained fact that she apparently doesn't have a human twin in that world already, but basically Sunset Shimmer is the reason I find the Mane 6 bearable. Even though she isn't part of the mane 6.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on June 28, 2017, 12:40:03 AM
Taffeta, that's a lot more well thought out than a lot of people who don't like FiM.  It sounds like you really did try hard to give it a fair shot.

However, lots of people like Sunset Shimmer, so as to that I'm afraid you are off topic, haha.

But seriously, that's a great point as to EQG.  It really does change the dynamic a lot to have her there.

I like G3 Rainbow Dash too, a lot, so I drew a G1 version only with wings.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on June 28, 2017, 01:00:42 PM
I think the CMC's cutie marks are the colors they are because they have each of the 3's mane/tail colors in them but I agree their marks could have been a lot better designed.

Petite ponies are cute but I can't bring myself to pay $15-$40 for a single petite pony.


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on June 28, 2017, 01:20:51 PM
I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion or not, but upon closer look at the Cutie Mark Crusaders' Cutie Marks, I think that the show isn't letting them live up to their true potential if their cutie marks are supposed to tell them where their talents lie.

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Sweetie Belle's has a music note in the middle, which, to me, says that she could have something more to do with music.

And Scootaloo's is a wing with a thunderbolt inside.  Are they teasing her because she can't fly very well or will some upcoming episodes reveal that her hard work pays off?

Applebloom's has a heart in the middle, so she could become a matchmaker type of character if she can learn not to do dumb things when meddling in other ponies relationships.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 28, 2017, 01:21:08 PM
I think the CMC's cutie marks are the colors they are because they have each of the 3's mane/tail colors in them but I agree their marks could have been a lot better designed.

Petite ponies are cute but I can't bring myself to pay $15-$40 for a single petite pony.


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For something that small, neither can I.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on July 12, 2017, 03:21:35 PM
I don't like sea ponies.

This is shocking to me to read on the Arena of all places :lol:

Here is a nitpicky one of mine:
I don't like the name "Twilight Sparkle". It sounds like a Frankenstein name. Might as well call Rarity "Glory Sparkle" - that would at least make sense :P

-I love customs but I hate it when people use non-baity G3s as a base. They are becoming rare.

-G3 Spike is best Spike. G1 and G4 are both annoying.

-Male ponies in G4 have really ugly designs (there are only a few exceptions) and I hate the ones with humanoid beards or the fact most of them have short manes and boring color schemes to make them less ~girly.

-The songs in G4 aren't that great. Other cartoons have similar material and that's ok.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on July 12, 2017, 06:53:05 PM
Where can I find some G3 Spike?  I haven't seen him. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on July 13, 2017, 05:09:18 AM
Where can I find some G3 Spike?  I haven't seen him.
If you mean as a toy, you can't (unless someone made a fan version) - he isn't a toyline character.

If you mean in the show, "Princess Promenade" and "The Runaway Rainbow" are the movies to look at.  He may have been in others, but he is definitely in them.  He was also in the live action show "The Worlds Biggest Tea Party".

I agree that G3 Spike was the best Spike.   :good:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 13, 2017, 07:14:09 AM

-I love customs but I hate it when people use non-baity G3s as a base. They are becoming rare.


I am feeling more and more morally conflicted about customs on any pony that is no longer available on store shelves.
Obviously if a pony is wrecked (major hair cuts, serious marks, even bits missing) that's a sort of different point, but in terms of your mention of good condition G3 becoming baits...

I am feeling more and more as time goes on that this is a bad thing in all generations. It happened a lot years back with the first generation when they were plentiful but I wonder now how much that impacted on the prices we live with now because nobody thought about future availability. The G3 collectors are just really breaking out onto the scene and your comment makes me wonder how much their current cheapness and availability is lulling people into a false sense of security about their future.

In terms of Generation One pony customising, I am even more morally conflicted by this. It's the fact of being torn between accepting someone has the right to do what they like with what they buy, versus the future availability issue.

I'm not trying to criticise anyone here because I know that ultimately we all decide for ourselves what is and isn't bait and whether or not to customise. But I am more conflicted by this than I used to be. Fifteen years ago I wouldn't have bothered about someone sacrificing a Cherries Jubilee to fix a Munchy's hair, but now...? I don't know...

I feel like we have some kind of responsibility to protect existing pony stock of all generations in acceptable or good collector condition from unnecessary customisation or restoration, but I have absolutely no idea how that could be achieved.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on July 13, 2017, 07:42:55 AM

I feel like we have some kind of responsibility to protect existing pony stock of all generations in acceptable or good collector condition from unnecessary customisation or restoration, but I have absolutely no idea how that could be achieved.

We keep making those fan-based customs - like Genie and Puppy Love!  If we have a regular stock of custom bodies to be able to order from, then people don't have to use actual vintage ponies!  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 13, 2017, 07:47:07 AM

I feel like we have some kind of responsibility to protect existing pony stock of all generations in acceptable or good collector condition from unnecessary customisation or restoration, but I have absolutely no idea how that could be achieved.

We keep making those fan-based customs - like Genie and Puppy Love!  If we have a regular stock of custom bodies to be able to order from, then people don't have to use actual vintage ponies!  ;)

Actually, that is a good call. Depending on the expense involved in doing that; it may be something that we as a community have to look to invest in more...I don't know. And there are fakies in g1 and g3 moulds as well, though the quality of those is a bit questionable. I don't believe in stifling the creativity in the community but if we had a good balance between original stuff and creativity I think that it would benefit everyone.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on July 13, 2017, 07:51:06 AM

I feel like we have some kind of responsibility to protect existing pony stock of all generations in acceptable or good collector condition from unnecessary customisation or restoration, but I have absolutely no idea how that could be achieved.

We keep making those fan-based customs - like Genie and Puppy Love!  If we have a regular stock of custom bodies to be able to order from, then people don't have to use actual vintage ponies!  ;)

Are they making extras for customizing? Cause I'd love to buy original blank molds of G1 ;p
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 13, 2017, 07:51:50 AM
I don't like sea ponies.

This is shocking to me to read on the Arena of all places :lol:

Here is a nitpicky one of mine:
I don't like the name "Twilight Sparkle". It sounds like a Frankenstein name. Might as well call Rarity "Glory Sparkle" - that would at least make sense :P

-I love customs but I hate it when people use non-baity G3s as a base. They are becoming rare.

-G3 Spike is best Spike. G1 and G4 are both annoying.

-Male ponies in G4 have really ugly designs (there are only a few exceptions) and I hate the ones with humanoid beards or the fact most of them have short manes and boring color schemes to make them less ~girly.

-The songs in G4 aren't that great. Other cartoons have similar material and that's ok.

I agree with you on everything except G1 Spike. He is quite competent and I agree with you partly on G4 boys. Beards and mustaches are dumb, on the other hand, they're the only ones that have faces that aren't super deformed.

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I feel like we have some kind of responsibility to protect existing pony stock of all generations in acceptable or good collector condition from unnecessary customisation or restoration, but I have absolutely no idea how that could be achieved.

We keep making those fan-based customs - like Genie and Puppy Love!  If we have a regular stock of custom bodies to be able to order from, then people don't have to use actual vintage ponies!  ;)

Win/win situation!

Post Merge: July 13, 2017, 07:54:28 AM


I feel like we have some kind of responsibility to protect existing pony stock of all generations in acceptable or good collector condition from unnecessary customisation or restoration, but I have absolutely no idea how that could be achieved.

We keep making those fan-based customs - like Genie and Puppy Love!  If we have a regular stock of custom bodies to be able to order from, then people don't have to use actual vintage ponies!  ;)

Are they making extras for customizing? Cause I'd love to buy original blank molds of G1 ;p


That would be awesome!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 13, 2017, 08:00:16 AM

I feel like we have some kind of responsibility to protect existing pony stock of all generations in acceptable or good collector condition from unnecessary customisation or restoration, but I have absolutely no idea how that could be achieved.

We keep making those fan-based customs - like Genie and Puppy Love!  If we have a regular stock of custom bodies to be able to order from, then people don't have to use actual vintage ponies!  ;)

Are they making extras for customizing? Cause I'd love to buy original blank molds of G1 ;p

Not yet I don't think, but I suspect that might be the future of customising in general.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 13, 2017, 08:23:14 AM
I'm happy for G1 merch, but I'm getting tired of seeing certain ponies, as if they were the only ones who ever existed. I'm not saying we need toys of every single pony and I know there are way too many, even among the most popular, well known and quintessential ponies. But seeing Applejack, Minty, Glory, Starshine,  Gusty and Firefly is getting tiresome and the lack of of certain popular characters is confusing. Like Bowtie, Wind Whistler, Fizzy, Galaxy, Buttons, Lofty, Shady, Majesty, Morning Glory, Rosedust etc.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 13, 2017, 08:26:01 AM
I was happy to see Windy. :) She was my first pony. But I don't like the sequin-mane tshirt with her on, it looks wrong :/

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 13, 2017, 08:40:40 AM
I was happy to see Windy. :) She was my first pony. But I don't like the sequin-mane tshirt with her on, it looks wrong :/

I haven't seen that shirt.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on July 13, 2017, 03:56:48 PM
Ah the customs issue.

I bought a box of unfinished and ruined customs off eBay and I realized that customs have a limited lifespan because that paint only lasts so long etc.  One of those customs that had ruined paint was actually recognized here by a member who had created it (the green unicorn made from g3 styling pony) so my suggestion as to customs is to re-customize worn-out customs.

It's also a good solution for cancered ponies whose materials can't be fixed, although even that has downsides because at some point in the future when more ponies have degraded materials those that degraded first will still be unaltered so even the loss of those will someday be a problem.  This is assuming that people will still care about old ponies that far into the future which I think is a "problem we want to have".

The first Genie run did have some flawed units that were customized but the production quantity has at this point prevented the costs from coming down enough for these to be viable customs blanks.  It seems the project has an ongoing following so far, so we can all wish for its continued success and hope that someday production quantities will be high enough to provide us with the blanks we need.

Another solution for blanks for customs are to simply make them.  A pony that's going to be painted over can be made of an alternate material that can be poured into a home-made mold of plaster of paris made from a pony (without destroying it).  Such a customs-blank could be from a material that's less toxic to make and could be selected to take paint better too.  If no one's doing this then at some point I am gong to take a whack at it.  Possible materials include latex and silicone and all sorts of goops and fibers that might work so much better then real ponies as customs bases.  Ooops I think better and more responsible customs bases wouldn't be "unpopular" so I'm off topic  <screeching brakes>

Oh yeah I actually have a couple of those G3 movies and don't remember Spike in them.  I must have been prejudiced when I watched.  I'll watch them again.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on July 15, 2017, 11:20:07 AM
I don't think the other Spikes are "incompetend". I very much stated that I merely find them annoying.
G1 for his voice and G4 because I hate that he loves Rarity. It's not cute to me and as I have read it was only put in the show to highlight how beautiful Rarity is. Kids aren't idiots. They see that Rarity has the most detailed hairstyle and has eyeshadow and big lashes. All of that telegraphs that she is the most high maintenance of the six. No need for the only boy in the group to obsess over her.

G3 Spike should have been a toy. He was book-smart, helpful and wanted to be a princess. It's as if they wanted to put him in G4 but then decided to give his character traits to Twilight :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 20, 2017, 08:09:42 AM
Animation wise-G3.5 and G4 look alot alike, so people who hate one and praise the other, have a lot of nerve.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on July 20, 2017, 01:09:28 PM
Animation wise-G3.5 and G4 look alot alike, so people who hate one and praise the other, have a lot of nerve.

I'm a big fan of Gayle Middleton's work. She is most known for the look of G3 and the first Littlest Pet Shop reboot, as well as her own line, Vamplets.
The G3.5 ponies are not my cup of tea because their toy designs looked a bit like ducks and their feet were too swollen to look cute to me. But on paper they are really fun.
It is kinda obvious that Lauren Faust was tasked with streamlining G3.5 and that's what she did. She took G3.5 and added a bit more of her more angular, sleek look, making it more suited for flash animation. Her original designs are really expressive and iconic (especially RD's flying pose).
But it's similar to what Gayle did for G3. She took G1 and gave it her own touch.

So I guess that is another unpopular opinion of mine (not on the Arena, possibly): Lauren Faust is not the stand-out MLP re-designer people make her out to be. Her designs are really sleek and dynamic but my No. 1 is Gayle for bringing G1 flair back to the brand and reviving it for the US market :biggrin:
Also dislike that she pony-fied herself as an alicorn. You're not god, Lauren :angel:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on July 20, 2017, 01:14:47 PM
As for custom ponies, I use fakes most of my customs have been fakes I find them so cheaply.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 20, 2017, 02:46:54 PM
Also dislike that she pony-fied herself as an alicorn. You're not god, Lauren :angel:

Pretty sure it was the brony fanbase that did that...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on July 20, 2017, 03:02:45 PM
Also dislike that she pony-fied herself as an alicorn. You're not god, Lauren :angel:

Pretty sure it was the brony fanbase that did that...

Nope, it was her :lol:
http://mlpfanart.wikia.com/wiki/Lauren_Faust
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 20, 2017, 03:18:10 PM
Nope, it was her :lol:
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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 20, 2017, 03:31:42 PM
So I am unsure which bits of this are unpopular opinions, but this statement of Faust's (I'm copying from Wiki, if it's misquoted or misattributed then that's my disclaimer) about the original MLP animation being "endless tea parties, giggled over nothing and defeated villains by either sharing with them or crying".

So the reason I have issues with this, aside the obvious fact anyone who's ever seen Rescue at Midnight Castle, Tambelon, Bright Lights, Somnambula, Revolt of Paradise Estate etc knows it's rubbish, is that in my opinion, that statement perfectly sums up FIM.

I am not even that big a fan of the old animated series. But I have become much more sympathetic to it since that, because as far as I'm concerned, Faust basically created a series that was everything she hated about G1 animation. And most of those reasons, especially the obsessive need to befriend everything, is why I couldn't ever get into FIM.

I don't remember a compulsive need for the old ponies to befriend every villain they met. I do remember North Star ringing a bell to consign one of them to a world of darkness though...

Given the size of the FIM fandom, it's clearly an unpopular opinion, so I am putting it here :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on July 20, 2017, 04:07:02 PM
Yeah, that isn't even true for other MLP, as the ones who actually had tea parties (and nobody ever talk smack about my girl Tea Leaf) didn't have villains or reasons to cry :P

I like FiM just fine, but the first season has an episode in which Rarity defeats villains by crying and whining until they can't stand her anymore and release her.

And who is constantly having tea parties with a reformed villain now? G4 Fluttershy :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 20, 2017, 04:29:19 PM
So I am unsure which bits of this are unpopular opinions, but this statement of Faust's (I'm copying from Wiki, if it's misquoted or misattributed then that's my disclaimer) about the original MLP animation being "endless tea parties, giggled over nothing and defeated villains by either sharing with them or crying".

So the reason I have issues with this, aside the obvious fact anyone who's ever seen Rescue at Midnight Castle, Tambelon, Bright Lights, Somnambula, Revolt of Paradise Estate etc knows it's rubbish, is that in my opinion, that statement perfectly sums up FIM.

I am not even that big a fan of the old animated series. But I have become much more sympathetic to it since that, because as far as I'm concerned, Faust basically created a series that was everything she hated about G1 animation. And most of those reasons, especially the obsessive need to befriend everything, is why I couldn't ever get into FIM.

I don't remember a compulsive need for the old ponies to befriend every villain they met. I do remember North Star ringing a bell to consign one of them to a world of darkness though...

Given the size of the FIM fandom, it's clearly an unpopular opinion, so I am putting it here :D

I...I could just :hug: you Taffeta.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on July 20, 2017, 08:43:11 PM
So I am unsure which bits of this are unpopular opinions, but this statement of Faust's (I'm copying from Wiki, if it's misquoted or misattributed then that's my disclaimer) about the original MLP animation being "endless tea parties, giggled over nothing and defeated villains by either sharing with them or crying".

So the reason I have issues with this, aside the obvious fact anyone who's ever seen Rescue at Midnight Castle, Tambelon, Bright Lights, Somnambula, Revolt of Paradise Estate etc knows it's rubbish, is that in my opinion, that statement perfectly sums up FIM.

I am not even that big a fan of the old animated series. But I have become much more sympathetic to it since that, because as far as I'm concerned, Faust basically created a series that was everything she hated about G1 animation. And most of those reasons, especially the obsessive need to befriend everything, is why I couldn't ever get into FIM.

I don't remember a compulsive need for the old ponies to befriend every villain they met. I do remember North Star ringing a bell to consign one of them to a world of darkness though...

Given the size of the FIM fandom, it's clearly an unpopular opinion, so I am putting it here :D


I actually like G4 but I can totally agree with this.

On the same vein, I never understood the whole " FiM is so ground breaking and the characters are so groundbreaking" thing.  Um, no.  We have the nerd who doesn't have/has trouble making friends, the loud obnoxious jock,  the diva fashionista, the totally random comic relief, the super shy animal lover, and the hard working, no-nonsense hick.  The only thing that might be ground breaking is taking these totally stereotypical highschool stereotypes and allowing them to exist outside of a school setting and in a non-human form.

(And then Hasbro took those characters, turned them back into humans, put them back into school, and wonder why EGs is greeted by ho hum reactions)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on July 21, 2017, 01:53:27 AM
So I am unsure which bits of this are unpopular opinions, but this statement of Faust's (I'm copying from Wiki, if it's misquoted or misattributed then that's my disclaimer) about the original MLP animation being "endless tea parties, giggled over nothing and defeated villains by either sharing with them or crying".

So the reason I have issues with this, aside the obvious fact anyone who's ever seen Rescue at Midnight Castle, Tambelon, Bright Lights, Somnambula, Revolt of Paradise Estate etc knows it's rubbish, is that in my opinion, that statement perfectly sums up FIM.

I am not even that big a fan of the old animated series. But I have become much more sympathetic to it since that, because as far as I'm concerned, Faust basically created a series that was everything she hated about G1 animation. And most of those reasons, especially the obsessive need to befriend everything, is why I couldn't ever get into FIM.

I don't remember a compulsive need for the old ponies to befriend every villain they met. I do remember North Star ringing a bell to consign one of them to a world of darkness though...

Given the size of the FIM fandom, it's clearly an unpopular opinion, so I am putting it here :D

I was just thinking about this same thing. I don't remember a single tea party in G1, but they seem to have one every five minutes in G4.
The whole concept of "friendship is magic!" and "bookish nerds must be forced to make friends!" rubs me the wrong way,  mainly because I am a fairly unsociable bookish nerd, and if the future of Equestria depended on me making friends it would now be a smouldering, Nightmare-Moon-ruled mess :L
I am acutely aware of FiM's various failings (which I think seem more glaring because so much of the fandom talk about it as if it's the most unique, revelatory, ground-breaking show ever), but I still watch it because it has ponies and they're cute :) . It's a cute kids show, but it's not the life-changing work of genius some fans like to imagine.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: mylittELLEpony on July 21, 2017, 05:28:54 AM
I don't like G4 (the toys or FiM the show) and don't even really consider it My Little Pony. I know it is, but I just can't. When I think "My Little Pony" I think G1. I've felt like this about every generation since G2. I'm glad that they all exist so people with different tastes or who grew up at different times have their own ponies to connect to, but they're not at all for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: haircutsandhighlighters on July 21, 2017, 06:23:57 AM
Agreed - I have never seen FiM. And I don't want to. It's an insult to my precious childhood memories, seriously. I grew up on the G2 toys and the G1 cartoon, so anything later leaves me cold.

I also think "Friendship is Magic" is a silly title, and don't even get me started on "cutie mark". They weren't called that back in MY day....  :P

And, if I may diverge from the G4 ranting for a while, I think MOC/MIB ponies, especially from the earlier generations, are the saddest thing ever. 20 years in a box?  :cry:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jorgito93 on July 21, 2017, 07:30:59 AM
I absolutely love FiM, but i agree with you Taffeta.I still don't understand that stereotype with g1.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: mylittELLEpony on July 21, 2017, 07:34:28 AM
And, if I may diverge from the G4 ranting for a while, I think MOC/MIB ponies, especially from the earlier generations, are the saddest thing ever. 20 years in a box?  :cry:

I feel this way, as well (I blame Toy Story LOL) which is why I will never buy a MOC/MIB pony. I'd end up deboxing and considering how many collectors would LOVE to have whatever MOC/MIB pony I'd just rip right out of there I stay far far away.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: haircutsandhighlighters on July 21, 2017, 08:00:27 AM
I have actually done that. Twice.  :blush:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lady Frostbite on July 21, 2017, 08:36:21 AM
I checked out G4 because so many people were going nuts over it ... and I don't quite see what they see? Sure, it looks nice, and it can be funny at times, but I'm not seeing the groundbreaking aspects people gush over. I put it for other people the same level I put Monster High; something I personally adore and could point out all the funny/clever things about it, but being aware it's not groundbreaking or revolutionary in a massive sense.

A lot of characters get on my nerves. Rainbow Dash is obnoxious to me and reminds me of so many bullies I've met (I am *NOT* saying she is a bully! I'm juts saying she reminds me of them). Twilight I actually thought was a stand-in quite a few times; she reads like someone's overcompensating OC and when I noticed a closeness in hair-style to Faust ... that's probably a giant coincidence considering how many different mane styles there could possibly be but I couldn't unsee it. I laughed at the idea of her proving that 'anyone' could be a Princess. Yeah, no, she has had every available advantage going for her and was groomed practically from birth (or when she had that Deus Ex Magica moment) to be a Princess.

My biggest concern with G4 was simply I couldn't buy all of the main 6 characters wanting to be friends  :huh: I think the most believable were Rarity and Fluttershy, mostly because Rarity's loudness is balanced by Fluttershy's more reserved nature, and Rarity seems to have enough sensitivity to realise Fluttershy's limits. Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash MAYBE but the latter seems to have a tolerance limit for the former (was I the only one sympathising with Gilda wanting Pinkie to leave her and Rainbow alone to bond after so long apart? I've had obnoxious friends try to butt in on my time with another friend many times). Twilight is almost anti-social, Applejack is work or nothing. I just don't buy all of them as friends forever. Especially not clashing personalities like Applejack and Rarity, or Twilight simply being too ... her.

Faust honestly gets too much worship compared to the other minds behind MLP through the generations.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 21, 2017, 09:05:55 AM
Also dislike that she pony-fied herself as an alicorn. You're not god, Lauren :angel:

Pretty sure it was the brony fanbase that did that...

Nope, it was her :lol:
http://mlpfanart.wikia.com/wiki/Lauren_Faust

Lame
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on July 21, 2017, 09:31:48 AM
So I am unsure which bits of this are unpopular opinions, but this statement of Faust's (I'm copying from Wiki, if it's misquoted or misattributed then that's my disclaimer) about the original MLP animation being "endless tea parties, giggled over nothing and defeated villains by either sharing with them or crying".

Faust basically created a series that was everything she hated about G1 animation. And most of those reasons, especially the obsessive need to befriend everything, is why I couldn't ever get into FIM.

Unless Lauren Faust has said a clearer version of this quote since then, it's not even set in stone that it was My Little Pony she was referring to when she said this.  The gist of the quote goes something like "The programs they had for little girls back in my day were like that, so I sent my toys on adventures" - she doesn't say specifically that she meant My Little Pony when she said this.  I think I've heard that Lauren said something about G1 having endless tea parties at a convention, though, but if that's the case, she might be misremembering - she didn't watch the cartoons that much, from what I can understand, not because she didn't like them, but because she already had her ideas on how it should be, and the show seemed too far away from it, or something.  I can understand this, especially given her age at the time (though there are still holes in this, with how her Mane Six act close to who they "replaced" at times, but I've already covered that in another post).

It is also possible that Lauren doesn't mind the girly tea party stuff, and she's just been misquoted again (she seems to get misquoted a lot), and maybe she literally meant she doesn't like it when it's "nothing but tea parties", i.e. there's no structure behind it, or anything in the episode besides the tea party?  The thing is with Lauren, she doesn't seem to be very good at getting her words across when she's just simply talking about her ideas (or people just misquote her), but her talent lies more in the actual writing, especially with friendship stuff.

and don't even get me started on "cutie mark". They weren't called that back in MY day....  :P
Not an unpopular opinion, trust me.  I felt like the only one who liked the term cutie mark when I first joined, but that's all been sorted out now.

I checked out G4 because so many people were going nuts over it ... and I don't quite see what they see? Sure, it looks nice, and it can be funny at times, but I'm not seeing the groundbreaking aspects people gush over.

Twilight I actually thought was a stand-in quite a few times; she reads like someone's overcompensating OC and when I noticed a closeness in hair-style to Faust ... that's probably a giant coincidence considering how many different mane styles there could possibly be but I couldn't unsee it. I laughed at the idea of her proving that 'anyone' could be a Princess. Yeah, no, she has had every available advantage going for her and was groomed practically from birth (or when she had that Deus Ex Magica moment) to be a Princess.


Faust honestly gets too much worship compared to the other minds behind MLP through the generations.
I think the "ground breaking" thing about My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic was that, to some of us (including myself) it seemed like the kind of children's shows we'd grown up with; there was heart to it, and the cute friendship moments weren't treated like a joke (and the few times they were, the emphasis was on the friendship moment, and not the joke) - somewhere between 2000 and 2010, friendship moments and all together cute heart-warming moments had become somewhat of a joke in children's shows (at least, with the shows I saw it did), and while I am totally fine with there being children's shows that aren't focused on love and friendship and a more of a comedy throughout (there are shows like this that I liked back then, and even further back in the 90s, so they aren't a bad thing), it felt to me like we'd kind of forgotten how to do a normal heart-warming moment, without having a joke about how "lame" and "cheesy" these moments are take over the whole scene - I can only think of two jokes like this in what I consider the golden age of FiM (seasons one and two), and they were both in the same episode; "Cutie Mark Chronicles", and neither of them took over the heart-warming part.  There was also a lot of throw away stuff, like there being more attention to detail in how the characters acted, and little things to make them seem more "real", but I will admit, that there are probably other shows that did the same thing - hell, a lot of the praises bronies sung about G4 were present in the previous generations as well.

Although Lauren planned on Twilight Sparkle becoming a "something" from what I've heard, the episode where she became a princess had nothing to do with her.  Also, if any of the ponies are Lauren's self-insert, it's Fluttershy.  Lauren was really shy growing up, and wanted there to be a character for shy people to relate to.  There's nothing wrong with having a main character who is basically a wish-fulfilment version of "you" - a lot of writers do it, and they usually do it much more professionally than a Mary Sue OC (that's what you were thinking of, right?).  Even if Twilight was Lauren's self-insert (which she's not), she is still flawed, and is allowed to fail and look bad at times.  Fun fact: some of Twilight's personality was based on Lauren's mother.

I wouldn't say Lauren gets that much worship, myself.  She does if you take into the account that some people assume she created the whole franchise, but that's just people not bothering to do the research - they were introduced to the franchise via her version, so they just assume.  I know that there are a lot of people who do hold her in high regard, but there were a lot of people who didn't too.  Back when I hung out at brony sites more, I allowed myself to think I was the only brony who actually liked Lauren - I know I'm not, and even back then I knew deep down, I think, but I took notice of the negative comments more where people were acting like she didn't deserve much praise as she'd only done three episodes (which is true, but she would have been involved in the others as well), and people were acting like she left before she did (acting like season two was done without her, and for the most part, it wasn't).  There are certain things in the show that she did that she doesn't get praise for, and things she didn't do that she gets "blamed" for (not really, as they're not bad things, just things that weren't really her doing).

I'm not saying she's perfect, I know she's not, she's probably the first writer I realised that I could relate to, the first writer that I truly saw as "human".  I know that there are a lot of bronies who praise her, and sadly the ones that do tend to be the bad kinds of bronies, the ones that hate on the previous generations and praise Lauren for "saving" them from pre-FiM, the ones who hate the new episodes because they think the show died when she left (I don't think it died, but I do think it lost something), and those are the ones that people pay attention to, it seems. 

According to brony-haters, FiM-Haters and sometimes even My Little Pony-haters we (myself and other bronies) are supposed to treat Lauren like God, but I have yet to see any of this...


Also dislike that she pony-fied herself as an alicorn. You're not god, Lauren :angel:
She was never trying to be, it's not even a "supernatural" maned alicorn, and it was probably done before the stigmatism of alicorn-OCs happened.  It is so rare I see anyone in the brony fandom actually complain about an alicorn OC these days, that when someone finally does complain about one, it seems so out of the blue, and I'm like "Really, I thought we were done with that?"

Even with Princess Celestia and Princess Luna in mind, I don't think it entered her head that the fans thought that alicorns were godlike (which for the record, I don't think they are) - the idea what they were was all the fandom, as far as I can see.  I honestly think it was all done innocently - I mean, it's not even a character.  Maybe she just really liked how alicorns looked?

I hope my post was balanced enough.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on July 21, 2017, 09:42:31 AM
FiM will always be the girl property that got the manly man seal of approval. That's why so many people believe it is exceptional when in reality it's just a regular cute and entertaining cartoon show like most shows for kids these days (I believe that cartoons vastly improved since the 90s, allthough lots of animation nerds will say otherwise).

While I like FiM I don't know why I should rank it higher than Star vs the Forces of Evil or Shimmer and Shine just because it has a cult following on the internet. My ideal MLP show would be closer to Rescue at Midnight Castle because I adore the Dark Fantasy niche genre of the 80s and I still think it would have been the best to put the ponies in a more fantastic setting rather than, let's say, a city like Manehattan.

Same reason why I never liked the MLP Tales cartoon. It was too humanoid.
As a kid I never wanted to be the ponies, I wanted to be someone like Megan who was chosen to spend time with them and become a leader type. To be a Chosen One, even if I was given a dumb title like "pony mommy". But that's just me.
I realize the Sailor Moon rip-off that is FiM is popular with girls because they see themselves in the main group and that's ok. But it is a Sailor Moon rip-off and nothing new.

Post Merge: July 21, 2017, 09:52:02 AM

According to brony-haters, FiM-Haters and sometimes even My Little Pony-haters we (myself and other bronies) are supposed to treat Lauren like God, but I have yet to see any of this...


Also dislike that she pony-fied herself as an alicorn. You're not god, Lauren :angel:
She was never trying to be, it's not even a "supernatural" maned alicorn, and it was probably done before the stigmatism of alicorn-OCs happened.  It is so rare I see anyone in the brony fandom actually complain about an alicorn OC these days, that when someone finally does complain about one, it seems so out of the blue, and I'm like "Really, I thought we were done with that?"

Even with Princess Celestia and Princess Luna in mind, I don't think it entered her head that the fans thought that alicorns were godlike (which for the record, I don't think they are) - the idea what they were was all the fandom, as far as I can see.  I honestly think it was all done innocently - I mean, it's not even a character.  Maybe she just really liked how alicorns looked?

Looks like I hit a nerve, but in the earliest interviews Faust had stated that the idea of an alicorn or "winged unicorn" ruler came to her mind because as a design choice it united all three types of ponies into one.
And the alicorns are the most powerful ponies, or at least they were supposed to be in the first season that she developped.

Take out my word choice of "god" and replace it with "most powerful" or "best of the ponies" or "ruler" and you may understand my Unpopular Opinion. You're speculating about her intentions just like everyone else in here. No need to take everything so personally ^.^
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 21, 2017, 10:46:33 AM
Lauren Faust is full of crap.

She certainly did not invent alicorns. Winged Unicorns, have been around way before MLP.

I don't get where she gets the endless tea party crap from? I mean Tales had a couple if I remember correctly, but that's not all they did Every episode. Plus the Tales ponies are flawed and feisty.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on July 21, 2017, 11:34:32 AM

Looks like I hit a nerve, but in the earliest interviews Faust had stated that the idea of an alicorn or "winged unicorn" ruler came to her mind because as a design choice it united all three types of ponies into one.
And the alicorns are the most powerful ponies, or at least they were supposed to be in the first season that she developped.

Take out my word choice of "god" and replace it with "most powerful" or "best of the ponies" or "ruler" and you may understand my Unpopular Opinion. You're speculating about her intentions just like everyone else in here. No need to take everything so personally ^.^
Yeah, you kind of did I'm sorry to say (I'm literally apologising to you, if it doesn't come across that way).  It's just that... I really relate to Lauren in places, and have a lot of respect for her, because like I said, she was the first writer that I saw as a human - nowadays I view them all as human, because they are, especially now that I am trying to be a writer myself, but she was the first, she was the one who made me realise that they are just people like you and me, because she just managed to be so relatable (her having a DeviantArt page helped with this).  So, it ends up hurting me more than it should when people personally "attack" her, rather than simply criticise her ideas, or her episodes, which by the way, I am totally fine with doing (while I did like previous shows she'd worked on, albeit without even knowing she worked on them, I genuinely think that FiM is the first thing involving her to be really high on my list, and not just in the average section).  It just gets to me, that people seem to directly act like she's doing something wrong, or taking what she says too literally, like she personally attacked them or something.  It's just she became so relatable, that I do end up taking this personally.  I'm sorry, but I do.  It's mostly because she genuinely seems like a nice person who just wanted to share her story, and bring her "fanfictions" with her toys to life.  I realise that I am speculating, but I'm basically giving her the benefit of the doubt.



On topic, I understand what you mean, though I still don't think it's quite the same as "godlike", but that's just me, and if I had to choose two ponies who were godlike, it would be Princess Celestia and Princess Luna, but even they have enough vulnerabilities, if only in my own headcanon to not literally be goddesses (in my headcanon, and in the show if a scene in "Princess Twilight Sparkle" means what I think it does, they can actually die, and I'm pretty sure a god/goddess aren't supposed die).

 I have no idea what Lauren's original plan for alicorns was in regards to this subject, but I will admit that it doesn't surprise me that they were meant to be rulers and "better" ponies (hence why they should be so rare, and why I'm officially settled on an alicorn being something you become, despite Princess Flurry Heart), but even then I still don't view them as godlike - I do think the "supernatural" ones (I need a name for these alicorns) like Celestia and Luna are "a plain above other ponies", but not goddesses.  I do think that she wanted to them to be a kind of "higher power" that normal ponies don't quite understand, or something, so I can see your point.

You are right that I am speculating.

Lauren Faust is full of crap.

She certainly did not invent alicorns. Winged Unicorns, have been around way before MLP.

I don't get where she gets the endless tea party crap from? I mean Tales had a couple if I remember correctly, but that's not all they did Every episode. Plus the Tales ponies are flawed and feisty.
Again, unless she actually did say she invented them, she is not saying that she invented them.  Taking Zapper's post at face value, I do not see any evidence of Lauren saying she invented alicorns, winged unicorns, or whatever you want to call them (I know that "alicorn" usually means the horn, or something from the horn) - she simply seems to be saying that the idea of one being the ruler came to her.  She could have meant that she saw a Winged Unicorn and then come up with the idea of making them what they were in her show.

Again speculation, but that's what it looks like to me.

I explained my theories on the tea party thing in my earlier post, it's at the start of it.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 21, 2017, 11:58:32 AM
Ok, so I didn't mean my comment on Faust's comment to start a war debate on this. This is the unpopular opinion thread, caveat is we can all say the things we dislike without having someone jump down our throats about it. This feels like I said something to send the thread way off topic, and I didn't mean for that (sorry Mods), but if that was the case, I'd just like to say...

My unpopular opinion is that Faust made a cartoon that lives up to all the things she said she hated in the old MLP/old cartoons.

That's the end of my unpopular opinion. I genuinely am not interested in Lauren Faust or FIM. I just find that an irritating irony, and thus it bugs me. End of subject.

Let's move on to another unpopular opinion because this thread has been going so nicely and respectfully and I really don't want the mods to lock it because it's nice to be able to share the things we don't like without it sparking a bonfire :/

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on July 21, 2017, 12:10:07 PM
I didn't like Dream Beauties when I was little. I only had one and I think I remember feeling like she was too big to be played with my other My Little Ponies


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on July 21, 2017, 12:11:20 PM
I might've said this before, but I don't think Grogar is one of the best villains like a lot of people seem to. I mean, he's got a cool design and the ep he's in is one of the best imo, but he's no Tirac. At least, imo.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 21, 2017, 12:14:10 PM
I didn't like Dream Beauties when I was little. I only had one and I think I remember feeling like she was too big to be played with my other My Little Ponies


Ponyfan

I have to admit I felt a bit weird about them to begin with too. They were so 'horsey'. We didn't have them in the UK so the first I saw of them was online, and I was a bit eh about them for a while. I like them ok now, but they are a pain to store, so I sometimes think maybe Hasbro should have not done it...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 21, 2017, 01:37:00 PM
One of my unpopular opinions is, I don't get the big deal over Tux n Tails. He's kinda dull, plus we have waaay too many blue and white boy ponies. Like, couldn't they have come in colors other then mostly pink and blue?

This extends to his three wives. Satin n Lace is just a boring pony.



Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 21, 2017, 01:44:04 PM
One of my unpopular opinions is, I don't get the big deal over Tux n Tails. He's kinda dull, plus we have waaay too many blue and white boy ponies. Like, couldn't they have come in colors other then mostly pink and blue?

This extends to his three wives. Satin n Lace is just a boring pony.





Ah that made me laugh out loud. Forget Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, it's Tux & Tails & the Three Wives. Magenta Satin is a really nice colour though.

It reminds me of a scene from my mediaeval Japanese text where a guy can't decide who his principal wife is and the two women end up having a full on scrap in the street because of it.

Going back on topic, the earlier stuff reminded me of another unpopular opinion. Please let's not have this one reacted to the same as the last but...

I don't like alicorns. I don't even like the word :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 21, 2017, 01:46:58 PM
I like them, but the word no.

I don't like Lily Lightly all that much. She's absolutely gorgeous but her blinky eyes and light up dress ruins her and covers up a lovely symbol.

I also am not fond of Honeysuckle, Baby Surf Rider and ponies with that particular color scheme.

Post Merge: July 21, 2017, 01:47:51 PM

One of my unpopular opinions is, I don't get the big deal over Tux n Tails. He's kinda dull, plus we have waaay too many blue and white boy ponies. Like, couldn't they have come in colors other then mostly pink and blue?

This extends to his three wives. Satin n Lace is just a boring pony.





Ah that made me laugh out loud. Forget Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, it's Tux & Tails & the Three Wives. Magenta Satin is a really nice colour though.

It reminds me of a scene from my mediaeval Japanese text where a guy can't decide who his principal wife is and the two women end up having a full on scrap in the street because of it.

Going back on topic, the earlier stuff reminded me of another unpopular opinion. Please let's not have this one reacted to the same as the last but...

I don't like alicorns. I don't even like the word :/

Sounds like daytime tv before there was ever television. :haha:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on July 21, 2017, 03:07:33 PM
One of my unpopular opinions is, I don't get the big deal over Tux n Tails. He's kinda dull, plus we have waaay too many blue and white boy ponies. Like, couldn't they have come in colors other then mostly pink and blue?

This extends to his three wives. Satin n Lace is just a boring pony.

Ah that made me laugh out loud. Forget Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, it's Tux & Tails & the Three Wives. Magenta Satin is a really nice colour though.

:lmao:

I like winged unicorns, but I really really hate the term "alicorn". (Unpopular opinion: I don't really care for the whole "alicorns are ~*super powerful goddesses*~!" thing. I wish we had more of them, and I don't care if they're in the show or not. XD Sterling and Gold Lily are two of my favourite G4s.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 21, 2017, 03:37:08 PM
One of my unpopular opinions is, I don't get the big deal over Tux n Tails. He's kinda dull, plus we have waaay too many blue and white boy ponies. Like, couldn't they have come in colors other then mostly pink and blue?

This extends to his three wives. Satin n Lace is just a boring pony.

Ah that made me laugh out loud. Forget Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, it's Tux & Tails & the Three Wives. Magenta Satin is a really nice colour though.

:lmao:

I like winged unicorns, but I really really hate the term "alicorn". (Unpopular opinion: I don't really care for the whole "alicorns are ~*super powerful goddesses*~!" thing. I wish we had more of them, and I don't care if they're in the show or not. XD Sterling and Gold Lily are two of my favourite G4s.)

I wish we had more too. I hope we get some in a horsier looking gen.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on July 21, 2017, 03:37:39 PM
Lily Lightly is lovely but i hate how hard she is to clean, and dislike that the dress is sewn on.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 21, 2017, 03:39:37 PM
I think that's the thing I don't like about the concept. It's the godmode power level involved. It's not related to G4 at all, actually. As a child I did design a whole set of ponies with horns and wings but none of them were stupid powerful. And I didn't know the word alicorn so I called them unipegs. I was about eight?

But I have always hated overpowered characters or concepts. And having horn AND wings seems a bit too much. (I agree that Gold Lily is beautiful though).

I don't hate the physical features of an alicorn exactly, but the idea of superiority or perfection they tend to represent. Another reason I loved the comic so much, because often the ponies who had special tricks didn't have to be unicorns. I like the idea that anyone can have a special talent or trick but nobody should have all the answers.

So if yours is an unpopular opinion, Carrehz, I'm there on the lonely lilypad with you on this ;)

I don't think I have ever seen Lily Lightly in real life. I am sort of put off by the photos, but because she looks so different I sort of admire her for being unique and 'herself' in her style among all the others following the mainstream G3 trends ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 21, 2017, 03:49:12 PM
Yeah I don't care about their hyper powers. It's like becoming one makes you become super Saiyan. They even change their hair-dos!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 21, 2017, 03:50:27 PM
Yeah I don't care about their hyper powers. It's like becoming one makes you become super Saiyan. They even change their hair-dos!

Yep, that lesser known omnipotent power of the alicorn, HAIRDRESSING xD

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 21, 2017, 04:00:51 PM
Yeah I don't care about their hyper powers. It's like becoming one makes you become super Saiyan. They even change their hair-dos!

Yep, that lesser known omnipotent power of the alicorn, HAIRDRESSING xD

 :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on July 22, 2017, 09:34:26 AM
I have a disagreement with myself over unicorns and pegasi in G3. On the one hand I wish they'd made more of them and on the other hand I think it was a good idea making them more special to kids and collectors.
When they finally joined the ponies in year two everyone wanted to have them even though some of their designs aren't the most creative. So many of them with generic flower symbols but you know what I mean. It's a G3 curse in general but the Earth ponies had more variation simply because there were so many of them.

So... I'm actually ok with fewer pegasi and unicorns in G3. Just would have liked to see cooler designs.

I also enjoyed Star Catcher and Rarity so much and wished they would introduce a wise pegasus and a spunky unicorn who doesn't want to be a princess WITHOUT turning evil in G4.
Imagine a storyline where Celestia chooses a new apprentice but she doesn't give a damn about her powers and would rather have fun like a normal kid. Probably too risque in G4's Disney-esque goal to highlight how amazing being a princess is  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on July 23, 2017, 12:13:39 AM
I haven't read this thread in many pages but seems I have missed out on some interesting topics and I have some opinions on some of them.

I really like Lauren Faust and from the first half of her interview in the Art of Equestria book (I say the first half because like G1 I haven't viewed the second half....hm attention span issues I should examine) I gather that she was a driving creative force in FiM in the beginning and she seems humble (not like so many seem to like to think of her) and I like her other stuff including Powerpuff Girls (though I haven't seen too much of them) and especially the well-hated Double Rainboom fan episode where Rainbow Dash ends up in the Powerpuff Girls universe and they try to "keep" her.  It's just so much fun.  Well there's plenty of unpopular opinions in this paragraph and since that's the topic, if you disagree then I'm on topic.  :silly:

I really love Lily Lightly especially because of her mechanical eyelids and I think her dress covers up a great symbol too so I took mine off.  Its tulle was tattered anyway.  Eventually I'm going to re-route her LED power to some LED baubles on her pigtail ties, yes of COURSE her hair is in pigtails (twintails to some of you) because that's how I like all hair best. 

Oh yes I really like alicorns (by any name) just because ponies look good with all the extra features.  I don't think even Tia and Luna are "godlike", as several complain they are underpowered and constantly defeated.  I also really don't think ponies are overpowered, because there are plenty of overpowered opponents they have to contend with like wizards, the Glass Princess, Discord and the Sirens, and I like clash and confrontation in my sweet innocent pony cartoons and it would just be lame if they had to grovel their way out of things without having the punch they need to win.  Besides, they're all underpowered anyway as they needed the Elements, cooperation from the opponents, or solving puzzles etc to prevail and can't just out-power any crisis.  They're simply not overpowered.  Not saying anyone is wrong, this is my seemingly-unpopular opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 23, 2017, 09:48:40 AM
I love the Valenshy and Fizzy Pop poses. They're so cute.

I don't care for Lambaditsa, her colors are boring.

Lightning is the only mountain boy I don't like. Orange and yellow is just bleh to me.

I love electronic and vehicle symbols. Tug's ship, Starhopper's flying saucer, the DnP pony with the headphones, (I can never remember her name.) Baby Racer's race car, 4-Speed's truck, DJ's stereo.

I don't like 4-Speed's name, it's weird.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on July 23, 2017, 10:18:20 AM
I love electronic and vehicle symbols. Tug's ship, Starhopper's flying saucer, the DnP pony with the headphones, (I can never remember her name.) Baby Racer's race car, 4-Speed's truck, DJ's stereo.

I don't like 4-Speed's name, it's weird.

I'm with you on these :D I prefer 4-Speed's UK name, "Trucker". Still not the best name, admittedly, but not as weird as his US one.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 23, 2017, 10:44:55 AM
I love electronic and vehicle symbols. Tug's ship, Starhopper's flying saucer, the DnP pony with the headphones, (I can never remember her name.) Baby Racer's race car, 4-Speed's truck, DJ's stereo.

I don't like 4-Speed's name, it's weird.

I'm with you on these :D I prefer 4-Speed's UK name, "Trucker". Still not the best name, admittedly, but not as weird as his US one.

Haha! If 4-Speed had a red streak instead of pink, he and Optimus could be buddies.

Speaking of red streaks, I hate the term show accurate, buuut in a hypocritical twist, I really, really wish Whizzer and Buttons had red in their hair like the cartoon.

I like chartreuse and neon colors.

I like most of the second set of princess ponies and their symbols. Princess Sunbeam is the only one I don't like in that entire group.

It kinda bugs me that so many celestial themed ponies are bright or pastel colored. I mean, I absolutely adore my Galaxy and Twilight and I think Midnight Dreams is stunning, but I wish more of them were dark blues, whites, black, grays and dark purples and I don't get how Princess Moondust is yellow and bright pink, pretty as she is. What do those colors hafta do with the moon?

I don't like Princess Twilight Sparkle, her colors are boring.

I hate pink ponies with yellow hair, but I love G3 ponies Forsythia and Tea Leaf. They're so pretty!

I like Melody.

I think MLP as a whole has a history of Meh songs, sprinkled in with a few good ones and a few awful ones.

I think G3 has the prettiest and best composed songs, way better then most of both G1 cartoons and G4s.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jorgito93 on July 23, 2017, 10:55:27 AM
Talking about songs, even though i think g4 has the best songs, i really think the quality of them went down after season 5.There are a few good songs in season 6 and 7, but most are forgettable.
Also, even though i think a lot of g3 songs are rather forgettable, Far Apart is one of the most beautiful song MLP ever had.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 23, 2017, 10:58:53 AM
Talking about songs, even though i think g4 has the best songs, i really think the quality of them went down after season 5.There are a few good songs in season 6 and 7, but most are forgettable.
Also, even though i think a lot of g3 songs are rather forgettable, Far Apart is one of the most beautiful song MLP ever had.

Yeah that one kinda reminds me of Somewhere Out There. :)

Have you heard MLP  Tales Sweet Music? It's really pretty.

I don't get the love for Peachy.

I think NBBE Baby Half-Note is such an underrated and pretty little girl.

I don't like Baby Northern Lights colors.

Pegasus Bluebell is much prettier then Earth Bluebell.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jorgito93 on July 23, 2017, 11:08:01 AM
Talking about songs, even though i think g4 has the best songs, i really think the quality of them went down after season 5.There are a few good songs in season 6 and 7, but most are forgettable.
Also, even though i think a lot of g3 songs are rather forgettable, Far Apart is one of the most beautiful song MLP ever had.

Yeah that one kinda reminds me of Somewhere Out There. :)

Have you heard MLP  Tales Sweet Music? It's really pretty.

Yep i've heard Sweet Music, i'm currently watching Tales.I like the song, my only problem with it is that the character for who being a rockstar is the main character trait makes music so light that it makes Imagine Dragons sound like death metal compared to it
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 23, 2017, 11:20:27 AM
Talking about songs, even though i think g4 has the best songs, i really think the quality of them went down after season 5.There are a few good songs in season 6 and 7, but most are forgettable.
Also, even though i think a lot of g3 songs are rather forgettable, Far Apart is one of the most beautiful song MLP ever had.

Yeah that one kinda reminds me of Somewhere Out There. :)

Have you heard MLP  Tales Sweet Music? It's really pretty.

Yep i've heard Sweet Music, i'm currently watching Tales.I like the song, my only problem with it is that the character for who being a rockstar is the main character trait makes music so light that it makes Imagine Dragons sound like death metal compared to it

:snicker:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on July 23, 2017, 12:10:33 PM
Melody's unpopular? :o I love her, she's my favourite Tales girl.

I love Baby Half Note, too :) She was one of my first G1s!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 23, 2017, 12:32:33 PM
*flies her little UK name flag at the mention of Trucker*

(No, I don't ever give up ;))

I am ambivalent about G1 songs. It depends on two things. If they went into my brain as a child, like the ones from Revolt of PE, then I am fine. But I hate off-key notes, so a lot of G1 pony songs have moments when trolls or Spike or a baby pony sings flat and I wince. I like songs if the characters can sing.

I like Tales songs better but nothing beats the Jem songs. The opening song from A Very Minty Christmas beats most original series G1 animation songs.

The Italian G1 theme is better than the American/English one.

Nightmare Moon is ten times cooler in Japanese (and I don't even like G4, but you know, fascinated curiosity).

Commenting on LAW's remark about Lightning, I love him, he's always been my favourite because of his comic persona, but he always has reminded me of cheese.


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 23, 2017, 12:36:54 PM
Wait is he the one that says flapdoodle? Or is that Fireball?

I don't like Surprise, Baby Surprise, Honeycomb or Baby Honeycomb.

I think Steamer's hair looks better faded to white.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 23, 2017, 12:43:52 PM
Wait is he the one that says flapdoodle? Or is that Fireball?
Fireball. Lightning is the one that winks in and out and flirts with Confetti when she's babysitting.

I like Honeycomb better than Surprise. And it literally has nothing to do with the fact one was sold here and the other not, because both were in the comics when I was a kid and I didn't know that one wasn't sold here until I was an adult collector. But I have just become really fond of Honeycomb over the years :/

And now a really weird and Taffeta-esque one.

I like pony backcards more than Nirvana ponies and I consider them more special, as they are less likely to be preserved than the ponies themselves.
If you gave me a choice between owning an original example of every G1 backcard made, or owning every Nirvana Pony ever made, I would take the packages. Without hesitation. And I have at least 2 carded Nirvana ponies in my collection which I bought for the card style, not because of the pony...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Eldarwen on July 23, 2017, 01:25:36 PM
I love all ponies with tinsel or glitter. You have a sparkly pony? Im going to love it!

I also love so softs. I remember when I started collecting I thought they looked kinda.. Well, not my thing. But once I got one in a lot, I instantly fell in love. SS ponies with good flocking are so adorable!

I dont really care about baby ponies. They're ok, I will keep them if they come in a lot, but I would probably never buy them. Unless we are talking about jewellery babies..  :lookround:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: KottonKandy on July 24, 2017, 09:09:04 PM
I hate Moondancer's pose, I love BBEs, and I think 90% of nirvana ponies are ugly.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Hannah66665 on July 24, 2017, 09:17:52 PM
I don't like G3 Spike... I didn't realize this was an unpopular opinion until reading about how much people liked him. XD G1 Spike for life.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lostpony on July 25, 2017, 12:34:55 AM
I have a hard enough time remembering the names of ponies i already have but the last page really made me feel like I need to study up; I didn't recognize a whole lot of things that went by and I'm going to look them all up.

G1 Spike is awesome and I especially love Spike and the Magic Shoes and really all the 2d G1 artwork....it's just so sweet and wonderful ands simple and pastel.  Like nothing else.

I almost always like the UK names better than the US names (that can't be unpopular though, Taffeta?) and at first I thought ALL nirvana ponies were ugly from the first ones I saw, but some are absolutely stunning! oh wait that's not unpopular either i don't think.  I agree Taffeta that the back-cards are wonderful....not just the stupidly sweet and/or confusing and ambiguous things written on them, but that 2d pony art is most precious.

here's a G3 one:  I just couldn't believe Minty wouldn't quit touching the giant candy cane!  I was practically falling out of my chair with angst saying stop messing with it, stop stop! so cringey and this might be my first time using the word "cringey" which has gotten suddenly popular somehow.  A word that is itself.

I love sparkle ponies and glitter (when stable) and especially the glow ponies but I don't like tinsel...it's usually messed up and it's just so ugly once it's bad.  Even when it's in good shape, it doesn't fall together with the hair and I can't seem to style it...and when I decided to cut all the tinsel out of Pony Bride, I found out how many tinsels there really are in there...took forever.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 25, 2017, 06:26:03 AM
I love all ponies with tinsel or glitter. You have a sparkly pony? Im going to love it!

I also love so softs. I remember when I started collecting I thought they looked kinda.. Well, not my thing. But once I got one in a lot, I instantly fell in love. SS ponies with good flocking are so adorable!

I dont really care about baby ponies. They're ok, I will keep them if they come in a lot, but I would probably never buy them. Unless we are talking about jewellery babies..  :lookround:

So-softs are a pretty popular set.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Eldarwen on July 25, 2017, 08:31:06 AM
So-softs are a pretty popular set.

Depends who you ask I guess, I had some serious trouble selling my so softs when I sold my collection, unlike everything else. I even got a comment on one that asked for a discount because it's an ugly pony. It was a near mint condition pony, if not mint. :lol: I think they're cute though!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 25, 2017, 10:04:25 AM
So-softs are a pretty popular set.

Depends who you ask I guess, I had some serious trouble selling my so softs when I sold my collection, unlike everything else. I even got a comment on one that asked for a discount because it's an ugly pony. It was a near mint condition pony, if not mint. :lol: I think they're cute though!
No they're pretty popular. In fact I'd say they're the one of the most popular and best known G1 sets period. Right up there with Twinkle Eyes, Big Brothers, Collector Ponies and Rainbow Ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 25, 2017, 11:07:27 AM
I think the SS ponies are what we'd say in the UK were like marmite - people love them or hate them. Though why would that buyer want to buy an ugly pony? So cheeky to ask for a discount ;) you didn't design the pony :D
I love SS ponies too. I would love to have more of them MOC but they weren't sold here so it would mean a lot more importing.

I also like sparkly and tinselly ponies. And I don't hate tinsel in pony hair which I know a lot of people do, even though it goes ratty. I hate it in Jem doll hair on Jetta, but not on ponies. Weirdly.

(Especially those ponies with tricolor tinsel like Taffeta and Twinkler <3)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Hannah66665 on July 25, 2017, 11:10:51 AM
I love tinsel in pony hair.  :lol: I can totally understand why it would frustrate people though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 25, 2017, 11:23:30 AM
I have mixed feelings on tinsel. I think the amount added for G1 and G3 ponies (I don't have any tinsel G2s so I'm not sure on them) is perfect. But I feel like they add a little too much in G4s, leading it to look more messy when a pony has even slightly frizzy hair.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 25, 2017, 11:48:16 AM
I think G3 may have gone a bit overboard on tinsel. We've got several ponies who seems like they're more tinsel then hair. Feels all plasticky  and crunchy.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on July 25, 2017, 03:21:02 PM
I don't like G3 Spike... I didn't realize this was an unpopular opinion until reading about how much people liked him. XD G1 Spike for life.

-high fives- I don't like him, either XD

(I hate G4 Spike, too, while we're on the subject.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Eldarwen on July 26, 2017, 03:01:34 AM
I think the SS ponies are what we'd say in the UK were like marmite - people love them or hate them. Though why would that buyer want to buy an ugly pony? So cheeky to ask for a discount ;) you didn't design the pony :D

Thats exactly what I meant. :D And at least in Finland, me or my friends never even knew so soft existed. Never saw them in any stores as a kid. Only heard about them as an adult, and they looked so weird. It wasnt how ponies were supposed to look!  :lol: To be honest, I only knew about Tropical ponies, rainbow ponies and some baby ponies. Never saw any others at toy stores. I had absolutely no idea there were so many of them.

About the buyer wanting to buy an ugly pony, apparently it was the only one she was missing or something like that. I didnt really ask. :D She ended up buying it with the price I was asking anyway.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on July 26, 2017, 08:10:56 AM
*gets ready to doge fakies*

I liked the episode where Twilight became a princess. It reminded me of a Broadway musical with all the songs.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on July 26, 2017, 09:08:44 AM
*gets ready to doge fakies*

I liked the episode where Twilight became a princess. It reminded me of a Broadway musical with all the songs.


Ponyfan

I actually agree with you.  I didn't really care whether or not she became a princess but there are a lot of great songs. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 26, 2017, 09:18:00 AM
*gets ready to doge fakies*

I liked the episode where Twilight became a princess. It reminded me of a Broadway musical with all the songs.


Ponyfan

I agree, I really like FiM's music, so having a musical episode was very fun. Same goes for the one where the CMC got their marks.

Plus Twilight is my favorite, so it was really neat seeing her achieve something like becoming a princess.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 26, 2017, 09:42:54 AM
*gets ready to doge fakies*

I liked the episode where Twilight became a princess. It reminded me of a Broadway musical with all the songs.


Ponyfan

Agreed with you. Sorry pony fan, no fakies today.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Luxrayx on July 26, 2017, 12:16:49 PM
I don't think it's an unpopular opinion to like magical mystery cure. People loved to hate on it in the beginning, but now that Twilight has been a princess for the majority of seasons, people don't really care anymore :P

My unpopular opinion is that I don't like TEs at all. I can't shake the feeling that their eyes just lack pupils!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on July 26, 2017, 03:19:56 PM
I find BBE ponies absolutely adorable , I like that creepy doll eye look to them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on July 27, 2017, 04:40:43 AM
I don't think it's an unpopular opinion to like magical mystery cure. People loved to hate on it in the beginning, but now that Twilight has been a princess for the majority of seasons, people don't really care anymore :P
It was definitely an unpopular opinion in the beginning, like you said, especially in the brony fandom.  If this counts, I still have a sort of unpopular opinion on it, because I was one of the few people who were sold on Princess Twilight Sparkle the second it happened (in hindsight, it's kind of strange that people hated it for the reasons they did, in my opinion).

Here's a couple of mine about the same thing (I think I'm in the minority with these opinions); I like the art-style for the new movie, and I honestly can't see that much difference between it an the normal G4 art-style at all (to me it just looks like they chose something different enough for the movie, but mostly the same so it's still familiar).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on July 27, 2017, 05:30:55 AM
*gets ready to doge fakies*

I liked the episode where Twilight became a princess. It reminded me of a Broadway musical with all the songs.

I liked it, too. I'm also very ok with Twilight being an alicorn. At first I was rolling my eyes at it but now it all makes sense to me. Especially with Celestia taking on more than one student. Also I think Twilight's name and color works really well with Celestia's and Luna's.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 27, 2017, 09:12:59 AM
The more I read threads on the site I'm starting to see that another one of my opinions in unpopular: I really like the G4.5/G4 reboot ponies.

I was mixed on them at first when I just had the single Twilight, I had gotten her not just because she is my favorite FiM character but also because she has a closed mouth, but after getting the single Pinkie Pie and Rarity, both of which have open mouths, I love the open mouthed ones too. Pinkie Pie especially. Her pose and facial expression just scream "Pinkie Pie" to me, they did a great job at applying her personality to this toy. Pinkie Pie is probably my favorite of the 3 G4.5s I currently own.

Beyond that, I really appreciate that we've got more poses now. G4s are cute but the lack of poses was something that I wasn't a huge fan of. We still have some G4.5s with basic standing poses, but we have more beyond that which feels very refreshing.

I went from being mixed on G4.5s to absolutely loving them and I'm very excited to get more as time goes on!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on July 30, 2017, 02:17:51 AM
This is more of a childhood opinion, but I'm still posting it. :P When I was a child and watched the show, I was always annoyed that there always HAD to be some villain. Something dramatic always HAD to happen. I just wanted to be in Ponyland, I just wanted to watch ponies being ponies! Why must some stupid villain always show up and ruin everything? :sneaky:

I guess I wasn't very adventurous. XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 30, 2017, 11:14:30 AM
This is more of a childhood opinion, but I'm still posting it. :P When I was a child and watched the show, I was always annoyed that there always HAD to be some villain. Something dramatic always HAD to happen. I just wanted to be in Ponyland, I just wanted to watch ponies being ponies! Why must some stupid villain always show up and ruin everything? :sneaky:

I guess I wasn't very adventurous. XD

I relate to this! Not especially with ponies but with a lot of things. I like character moments that bring out the nuances between characters in things, rather than big all power action finales...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on July 30, 2017, 01:38:42 PM
Glad to hear I'm not alone in this! :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sky_Rocket_Sammie on July 30, 2017, 01:49:12 PM
Watching the G1 movies and TV show have been a fantastic treat. Didn't watch any of them when I was a kid and only had the G1 ponies. So that did affect how I viewed their personalities. A Very Minty Christmas is so quirky I love it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on July 30, 2017, 07:44:36 PM
I don't understand why everyone is so enamored with A Very Minty Christmas (or any G3 cartoon for that matter).  I thought all the G3 cartoons were terrible.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Luxrayx on July 31, 2017, 06:39:02 AM
I don't understand why everyone is so enamored with A Very Minty Christmas (or any G3 cartoon for that matter).  I thought all the G3 cartoons were terrible.
Personally, I'd say you just have to come at them with the right mindset. They're not fantastic high-budget theatrical releases, but they're cute and charming. Not everyone has to like them, but it helps if you don't take them too seriously ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 31, 2017, 09:18:08 AM
I don't remember the plot or anything from any G3 animation although I saw a few, but I must say I adore the song from the Minty Christmas special.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 31, 2017, 11:09:26 AM
I think official Hasbro plushies of most gens are almost always horrible looking. G3 had the only decent looking ones. DD had a G3 baby Pinkie Pie plushie and G4 Trixie Lulamoon plush and the g4 one looked like it was below dollar store quality.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jorgito93 on July 31, 2017, 11:25:04 AM
I think official Hasbro plushies of most gens are almost always horrible looking. G3 had the only decent looking ones. DD had a G3 baby Pinkie Pie plushie and G4 Trixie Lulamoon plush and the g4 one looked like it was below dollar store quality.
I agree for g4.And even outside of hasbro, the only correct ones you can find in stores are probably the aurora ones (totally not biaised because my first pony was my dear Fluttershy from aurora).That's why i prefer the chinese bootleg ones tbh, more show accurate and larger choice of characters.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on July 31, 2017, 11:32:50 AM
I don't like the ribbon hair on the plushies.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 31, 2017, 11:35:09 AM
I don't like the ribbon hair on the plushies.

Ponyfan

Me either
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jorgito93 on July 31, 2017, 11:37:10 AM
I don't like the ribbon hair on the plushies.

Ponyfan

Me either
Is that an unpopular opinion? i always thought it was ugly.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 31, 2017, 11:46:12 AM
I am a believer in your toy, do whatcha want, but it makes me twitchy to see people customizing rare, expensive ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 31, 2017, 12:04:54 PM
I am a believer in your toy, do whatcha want, but it makes me twitchy to see people customizing rare, expensive ponies.

Is this unpopular? But yes I agree. All it does it make them even more rare and expensive. If someone wants to customize for the pose just buy a much cheaper pony with the same pose (preferably a bait, and in cases of rare ponies who are bait, restore them don't customize).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 31, 2017, 02:04:19 PM
I am a believer in your toy, do whatcha want, but it makes me twitchy to see people customizing rare, expensive ponies.

I agree. Actually it makes me twitchy to see people customising good condition G1 ponies. But you can always choose not to sell to those people, because just like they can do what they like with a pony when they receive it, you can do what you like with it when you sell it, including choosing who to sell it to. ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 31, 2017, 03:44:01 PM
I am a believer in your toy, do whatcha want, but it makes me twitchy to see people customizing rare, expensive ponies.

Is this unpopular? But yes I agree. All it does it make them even more rare and expensive. If someone wants to customize for the pose just buy a much cheaper pony with the same pose (preferably a bait, and in cases of rare ponies who are bait, restore them don't customize).

I don't know if it's considered unpopular per say, I usually try not to say anything for fear of coming across rude and bossy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on July 31, 2017, 05:12:38 PM
My collection is not the community's collection.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 31, 2017, 06:33:50 PM
My collection is not the community's collection.

Umm okay? Care to elaborate?  I'm a little slow on the uptake today.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Hannah66665 on August 01, 2017, 01:00:19 AM
My collection is not the community's collection.

Umm okay? Care to elaborate?  I'm a little slow on the uptake today.

My guess is that this is regarding the fact that many people will judge collectors for what they choose to do with their own ponies... it's a huge can of worms I don't want to open myself, but if I interpreted their post correctly, I fully agree.
That said, I would be pretty sad (and confused) if someone were to say... throw their ponies into a bonfire but I understand that it's their decision. XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on August 01, 2017, 01:51:40 AM
I don't like the drink n wet ponies.

Brush n grow ponies I don't like the gimmick (I want a video to show how you remove the gimmick to make the pony normal).

I hate when people put ponies on eBay.uk for ridiculous amount of money (saying HTF on common ponies)

I don't like Rainbowdash, I hate her. Is it bad that I laughed so hard when her pet turtle had to go into a long sleep (I don't think we ever see it anymore in FIM).

I only hate Applejack in the episode where she sings Stop the Bats (she and the others ganged up on Fluttershy).

I hate that they only do toys of the mane six and not the other characters.

I want FIM to be more darker.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on August 01, 2017, 03:15:24 AM
(I don't think we ever see it anymore in FIM).

The tortoise came back in season 7 when Pinkie wanted to pass it off as a special rock for Maude.

Would have been funnier if it really never came back again and RD would see a shooting star and go "aww I hope Tank is happy in his HIBERNATION" :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 01, 2017, 04:50:49 AM
@bright rabbit, I have a feeling a lot of those opinions might be more popular than you think xD I too hate the jacked up prices on "htf" G1 ponies on ebay :/

I don't know which is the more unpopular opinion, the community vs the personal property argument. I think both points of view are strongly held so are both popular but are also both very unpopular with the other group of thought (if that makes sense).

I am very much on the community side, because as a historian I believe in preserving the past for the future, but rather than making this a debate about those things, I'll add on what I said before.

Respect goes both ways in this debate. I see often buyers reiterating the fact they can do as they like with something they have bought, but I have also seen abuse flung at sellers who choose not to sell to someone who wants to customise or decard an item. The seller owns the item up to the point they agree to sell it. They are entitled to choose what happens to it, including who to sell it to. That does not make them a bad seller. We respect sellers choosing where they ship to, what currency they accept, what payment methods they are willing to use. I don't really understand why this is different. It shouldn't be. Obviously, on ebay, you sell to whoever bids, but in a private community the seller and buyer relationship is different and more personal.

 If the buyer has the right to do as they like, which they do, the seller does likewise. Respect should be due to both parties. That's a community spirited element that I think can apply to both sides of the thought process - community vs personal property applies in both cases, because seriously, transactions have to be about both people being happy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on August 01, 2017, 04:51:58 AM
Tank (that's the tortoise's name) came back even earlier, in the same season as his hibernation, making an (in my opinion) already pointless episode even more pointless.  It was such a poorly done metaphor, that Rainbow Dash just looked like an immature child who's favorite toy had been taken away (and this is coming from someone who loves G4 Rainbow Dash).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 01, 2017, 06:44:04 AM
I hate ridiculously priced ponies too. That's pretty popular from a buyer's perspective. :snicker:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on August 07, 2017, 04:26:44 AM
I don't mind the fact that most of the places in My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic have names based on real places.  I understand the desire to have more imaginative fantasy names, but for some reason the way they name places in FiM has never bothered me, and actually doesn't prevent me from viewing Equestria as a fantasy place at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 07, 2017, 09:01:04 AM
Eh, for me it's not the real life name that's the problem. It's the fact that everything in this show is a stupid horse pun shoved in your face, like their ridiculous language.

Besides and here is my unpopular opinion, it's not like MLP n Friends had creative, fantasy sounding names with the exception of Tambelon.

Crystal Desert, Volcano of Gloom, Pony Land, Flutter Valley, The Mushromp, Muensterville. C'mon! How generic can you get?

I honestly don't remember if the place the Tales ponies lived ever had a name.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on August 07, 2017, 01:35:53 PM
I loved every episode of FIM up to and including the wedding episode.  After that, it's been more miss than hit and I'm actually not too sad about it.  I have my DVDs of the first two seasons and I'm ok with it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on August 07, 2017, 01:55:43 PM
I've been the same really, barring "Putting Your Hoof Down" which was once the lowest the show could sink, in my opinion.  Anything after season two can go either way, though season three ended up looking better in my opinion, compared to what was to come - it really needed more episodes for me to give it a full opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jorgito93 on August 07, 2017, 03:00:08 PM
I've been the same really, barring "Putting Your Hoof Down" which was once the lowest the show could sink, in my opinion.  Anything after season two can go either way, though season three ended up looking better in my opinion, compared to what was to come - it really needed more episodes for me to give it a full opinion.
I don't know,Dragon Quest was pretty bad too (and the fact that it's a worse version of Spike's Search doesn't help either).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 07, 2017, 03:02:11 PM
Eh, for me it's not the real life name that's the problem. It's the fact that everything in this show is a stupid horse pun shoved in your face, like their ridiculous language.

Besides and here is my unpopular opinion, it's not like MLP n Friends had creative, fantasy sounding names with the exception of Tambelon.

Crystal Desert, Volcano of Gloom, Pony Land, Flutter Valley, The Mushromp, Muensterville. C'mon! How generic can you get?


Ditto on the ridiculous language. Everypony. No thank you. It's almost as annoying as some of the MH puns, or Draculaura constantly abbreviating words that only sound cool abbreviated if you happen to be seven.

...In terms of place names, I remember in the comic we had the Whispering Wood, the Weird Wood, Rainbow Mountain, Misty Mountain...a lot of different places and I would love to have once had a map of ponyland showing where all these things were in relation to one another. I don't have a problem with pony place names, not even Equestria as a name. But the language, definitely. I'm glad G1 didn't do it.

I dunno if this is unpopular or not, but I think FIM needs to stop recycling names, concepts, anything from old MLP and genuinely go it alone. I get that it's a nod to the past, but I am really not comfortable with it, I think that FIM should be FIM and G1, G1, and they can and should be entirely original without needing to constantly dip into the past pot of inspiration.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 07, 2017, 04:50:41 PM
I'm sure 7 year olds roll their eyes at it Taffeta. :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Luxrayx on August 08, 2017, 04:23:51 AM
I think season 1 and 2 of FiM are both overrated. People are all too quick to remember the good episodes, and forget that there's as many dumb ones as in newer seasons. I guess it's because people will only rewatch good episodes, reinforcing the positive impression and ignoring the negative.
It's a bit like when people say Sonic Adventure 2 is the best game ever, but only the Sonic parts which is, like, a sixth of the game. People remember it as a good game because they've forgotten the majority of it.
Or something ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on August 08, 2017, 06:50:21 AM
The thing is with me when it comes to season one and season two - the only bad episode for me, in that I actually ask "What were they thinking?!" is "Putting Your Hoof Down".  The other lesser episodes in those two seasons, based on my own personal opinion, were just below-par.  "A Bird in the Hoof" was simply unremarkable to me.  "Over a Barrel" only let itself down by being too childish in the context of what the show had already established for itself, as far as I was concerned (a potential death from pies?!) - I didn't even notice the controversial side to it.  Finally, "MMMystery on the Friendship Express" basically foreshadowed what I personally felt was Pinkie Pie's bad-patch in Season 3, the scenes where they show close-ups of how the bakers had food on them somewhere seemed out of place to me.

Ultimately, I don't hate those episodes, like I do "Putting Your Hoof Down", but I love the other episodes a lot more, which includes "Dragon Quest" (barring the opening - I also haven't seen "Spike's Search" yet) and, since most people seem to hate it, "The Mysterious Mare Do Well".
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on August 08, 2017, 09:46:33 AM
I think season 1 and 2 of FiM are both overrated. People are all too quick to remember the good episodes, and forget that there's as many dumb ones as in newer seasons.

I agree. Also how people make the cut right after the end of S2 is suspicious. That's when Lauren Faust wasn't consulting anymore.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on August 08, 2017, 12:52:47 PM
That depends on whether they were produced in order though, if they were, then fair enough, but I'm sure that some of "A Canterlot Wedding" was done under Lauren Faust's run or at least the planning of it was (she was one of the people who created Princess Cadance and Queen Chrysalis - though she was not around to be consulted about Cadance being changed to an alicorn, so I know was not in control of everything), and I know that it was during season two that she left (season 3 was the first season without her involvement at all), but a lot of the episodes still have what the later episodes seem to lack (I don't know if they lack this because Lauren left, or something else happened).

The point I'm trying to make, is that even in a show that works well in order, the episodes aren't necessarily written or planned out in order - you might write an episode that you know is going to come later, but if you have the idea now, you at least plan the episode.  Who knows, some of the season two episodes may have been written during or even before season one.

Also, to clarify - I am not one of the people who think the show died after she left (the fact that I acknowledge that some of the episodes of season two were done without her, and actually feel that season three managed to hold it together in places confirms this), but I do think that it lost something.  I still like it, but it simply doesn't feel like the same show at times - I don't know if it's because of Lauren going or a combination of things.  It can do and had done good without her, but it needs to make more effort in my opinion, and not completely forget what she'd established, and remember where it came from, before even Lauren was involved (though I personally think she, and the others at the time, did very well in capturing the previous My Little Pony cartoons, regardless of whether they meant to).

EDIT: Oh, that went a bit deep at the end there.  Sorry, I realise this isn't meant to be a debate thread - I just didn't want people to think I was one of those bronies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 08, 2017, 02:28:28 PM
I may have expressed this before, even in this thread, but having just had to groom one, I feel the need to express it again.

I hate Sundae Best ponies. Their scents make me sick. And now my fingers smell of Butter Kiss.

I need to sell her before she drives me nuts. Sigh.

Mine are kept closeted away in the cupboard where they cannot pollute the room, but I genuinely think that a Sundae Best outside of quarantine conditions are potentially lethal weapons which, if deployed strategically, could make the most resolute opponent surrender and beg for mercy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sky_Rocket_Sammie on August 08, 2017, 10:25:26 PM
Am so far behind in the seasons that I don't mind sitting through the episodes good or bad.
Hated the Equesteria girls when the first debuted but they've grown on me. The soundtracks aren't that bad and a few of the songs are catchy. :listen:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on August 09, 2017, 11:58:27 AM
I think season 1 and 2 of FiM are both overrated. People are all too quick to remember the good episodes, and forget that there's as many dumb ones as in newer seasons.

I agree. Also how people make the cut right after the end of S2 is suspicious. That's when Lauren Faust wasn't consulting anymore.
I don't care for the show or Lauren Faust that much. :)  I didn't know anything about her until after the show came out, I got around to watching an episode and found out about her on this forum.   Midnight Castle and Escape from Catrina are still my very favorite MLP cartoons and those are the ones that matter most to me.  I do love the Pony Wedding episode and  the episodes before it.  But as the show went on, I lost my enthusiasm.  For me, the excitement of the characters meeting each other and creating a dynamic together was the interesting part.  The Chrystal Empire just didn't click for me and that's where it eventually lost me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on August 13, 2017, 01:31:03 PM
A couple more of my unpopular opinions;

I enjoyed "Slice of Life" - I didn't find that the brony references stopped it being a good episode (partly, I admit because it focused mostly on the things that mean something to me in some way), and also think that the brony stuff can easily be ignored in that episode.

I actually think that Capper fits in with My Little Pony (people have been saying he doesn't) - in fact, he seems to be the one who fits in with the show the most out of the movie characters to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on August 13, 2017, 02:48:08 PM
I liked "Slice of Life", too.

Well, except Octavia's voice. Worst excuse for an English accent I've ever heard, and I've heard a loooot of bad English accents -_-
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: FlickaFriend on August 14, 2017, 03:45:53 AM
I love all ponies with tinsel or glitter. You have a sparkly pony? Im going to love it!

I also love so softs. I remember when I started collecting I thought they looked kinda.. Well, not my thing. But once I got one in a lot, I instantly fell in love. SS ponies with good flocking are so adorable!

I dont really care about baby ponies. They're ok, I will keep them if they come in a lot, but I would probably never buy them. Unless we are talking about jewellery babies..  :lookround:

I am completely new to collecting and to the forum so not sure I have the right to comment, but....

I don't really like baby ponies either.  I think partly it's because in my head the "adult" ponies are really just older children, so I can't conceptualise them as "mummy ponies" having to look after babies.  I also think the "adults" are just way cuter than the babies, it's as though the baby ponies are trying too hard to be cute or something. Edited to add: oh yeah, I also just thought of another thing which is that they are nothing like actual baby ponies i.e. foals who have long wobbley legs and are the opposite of the dumpy MLP babies who look more like piglets than ponies.

I also don't like sea ponies. At all.  To me they look like they are deformed.  I am amazed at the prices they can command.

However, not particularly unpopular but contentious I guess: I adore the G1 Collector's Pose and I was very surprised to see the number of people on here who don't like it. I think it's adorable!  This is probably helped a lot by nostalgia as I am old enough to remember the first 6 ponies coming out in the UK in collector's pose.

Interesting thread!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 14, 2017, 04:21:18 AM
I liked "Slice of Life", too.

Well, except Octavia's voice. Worst excuse for an English accent I've ever heard, and I've heard a loooot of bad English accents -_-

Don't get me started on bad English accents in things.
Whenever I watch Jem, the only one who has a reasonable voice is Jetta, because her voice artist is more or less English and Christy Marx insisted on her having a proper speaker for the role, but some of the others are awful. I didn't know Octavia was meant to be 'English' but if it's that bad, I would probably hate her on sight ;)

@Flickafriend: Sea Ponies grow on you :) but their popularity now is relative recent. When I first began online 20 years ago nobody was really interested in them and you could pick them up super cheap, even still mint on card. They've grown in popularity over the years. It's really interesting what things are and aren't popular over time and which ponies retain their popularity.

<--getting old ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jorgito93 on August 14, 2017, 05:06:53 AM
Luna's future is one of the most boring song of FiM, trying to be epic but failed miserably.Now half of the brony fandom probably wants to kill me because they worship Luna.By the way, i think Luna is way too overrated.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on August 14, 2017, 06:07:48 AM
I liked "Slice of Life", too.

Well, except Octavia's voice. Worst excuse for an English accent I've ever heard, and I've heard a loooot of bad English accents -_-

Don't get me started on bad English accents in things.
Whenever I watch Jem, the only one who has a reasonable voice is Jetta, because her voice artist is more or less English and Christy Marx insisted on her having a proper speaker for the role, but some of the others are awful. I didn't know Octavia was meant to be 'English' but if it's that bad, I would probably hate her on sight ;)

ugh yessss. Bad English accents drive me up the wall, too..

Honestly, I wasn't a fan of the idea of Octavia being 'English' to begin with, since I've never liked the "fancy upperclass character = English accent" cliche anyway, but they could have at least given her a halfway decent accent -_-
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 14, 2017, 06:22:00 AM
If you have a chance and want your ears to burn,  look up Sean Harrison from Jem as it competes with Dick Van Dyke for awfulness.

I guess the unpopular opinion here is that no English characters should be attempted as it ends up pretty offensive;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on August 14, 2017, 06:53:34 AM
I might as well confess to finding Octavia Melody's voice to be beautiful.  I don't mind if it was supposed to be English or not, I think it suited her personally.   ^.^

It was pretty much how I imagined her voice anyway, I think.  I'll admit that I saw one brony-made video that gave her a sophisticated accent, which may have fuelled that headcanon of mine, but I think it was easy enough for me to reach, since she looks like a fancy pony to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on August 14, 2017, 07:19:21 AM
I really dislike G4 Pinkie Pie because she is everywhere in toy form and her voice is just so grating to me, but I think she became a much better character in the show once they introduced her sister Maude and as a result of that is better written in the later episodes.

Just to add to me previously saying that I don't think FiM season 1-4 is so great. And that reminds me that the first two seasons gave me my two most disliked Pinkie episodes. I still feel bad for the donkey :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on August 21, 2017, 02:32:08 PM
I thought all the ponies having different accents was kind of weird, especially when they live together.  Where are you from, Truly?  How far do ponies travel?  How big is ponyland??  In my head, I always felt G1 ponyland was a relatively small group of ponies with some wandering around in the wilderness.

I also disliked that the boy ponies suddenly returned and yet no one ever mentioned or missed them before.  Total destruction of a "head canon" I suppose. lol.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on August 21, 2017, 03:29:04 PM
Luna's future is one of the most boring song of FiM, trying to be epic but failed miserably.Now half of the brony fandom probably wants to kill me because they worship Luna.By the way, i think Luna is way too overrated.
omg me too i prefer celestia anyway

Post Merge: August 21, 2017, 03:32:48 PM

I hate ridiculously priced ponies too. That's pretty popular from a buyer's perspective. :snicker:
i have seen sunade best ponies going up to 30 dollars like honestly

Post Merge: August 21, 2017, 03:39:11 PM

I don't like G3 Spike... I didn't realize this was an unpopular opinion until reading about how much people liked him. XD G1 Spike for life.
my biggest problem is his voice
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on August 21, 2017, 03:43:55 PM
I thought all the ponies having different accents was kind of weird, especially when they live together.  Where are you from, Truly?  How far do ponies travel?  How big is ponyland??  In my head, I always felt G1 ponyland was a relatively small group of ponies with some wandering around in the wilderness.

I also disliked that the boy ponies suddenly returned and yet no one ever mentioned or missed them before.  Total destruction of a "head canon" I suppose. lol.



Haha, good point about Truly! I never thought about that before.

With the Big Brothers suddenly appearing in Somnambula, I remember wondering about that as a child. Where had they been all that time? Where did they go once that episode was over?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on August 21, 2017, 03:46:10 PM
So I am unsure which bits of this are unpopular opinions, but this statement of Faust's (I'm copying from Wiki, if it's misquoted or misattributed then that's my disclaimer) about the original MLP animation being "endless tea parties, giggled over nothing and defeated villains by either sharing with them or crying".

So the reason I have issues with this, aside the obvious fact anyone who's ever seen Rescue at Midnight Castle, Tambelon, Bright Lights, Somnambula, Revolt of Paradise Estate etc knows it's rubbish, is that in my opinion, that statement perfectly sums up FIM.

I am not even that big a fan of the old animated series. But I have become much more sympathetic to it since that, because as far as I'm concerned, Faust basically created a series that was everything she hated about G1 animation. And most of those reasons, especially the obsessive need to befriend everything, is why I couldn't ever get into FIM.

I don't remember a compulsive need for the old ponies to befriend every villain they met. I do remember North Star ringing a bell to consign one of them to a world of darkness though...

Given the size of the FIM fandom, it's clearly an unpopular opinion, so I am putting it here :D
like honestly i prefer teaparty and befriending villans then action and adventure like whats so wrong with teaparties
and lauren needs to pick a side does she love g1 or not

Post Merge: August 21, 2017, 03:51:30 PM

Animation wise-G3.5 and G4 look alot alike, so people who hate one and praise the other, have a lot of nerve.
omg finaly someone said it

Post Merge: August 21, 2017, 04:07:20 PM

I love the BBE babies. Moreso than the regular g1 babies.

I think super mint condition collections are boring. I prefer my ponies to be a little beat up, have some history and character!

That thick chunky coloured tinsel they used for the Butterfly Island g3s was really pretty.

I do like Mimic (green and parrots!!! my faves!!) but if anyone from that set deserves that amount of attention, it's Bright Eyes.

I prefer the g4.5 reboot ponies over the older g4s. By comparison, the older ones look droopy and dull and the reboot set look a little closer to what ponies should look like, imo.

I can't wait for g5 to pop up and flush out the last of the people latching onto the brony label and g4's popularity. I was still very much a child when the brony phenomenon started and was extremely hurt by feeling chased out of the community I grew up in because I was now seemingly in the minority and in the wrong for being a kid who liked kids toys. The last of my childhood was taken away from me for the comfort of adult men in a space that didn't belong to them and I can't wait for them to get a taste of their own medicine when g5 rolls around and children take up the majority of mlp fans again.
omg i thought i was the only one its so annoying how they got 3 different documentarys and we havent got one
because im exausted from the shoutouts they get but we dont get much
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 22, 2017, 08:55:38 AM
I might as well confess to finding Octavia Melody's voice to be beautiful.  I don't mind if it was supposed to be English or not, I think it suited her personally.   ^.^


I don't mind ponies with different accents, it suggests different regions of Ponyland. But I consider fake English accents culturally offensive and that's another matter. So if an American cartoon does several regional US accents, like Truly's, that's not an issue. And if they get a voice artist from a country to do a specific accent, that's fine. But I hate when (usually) US TV shows think it's ok to fake an accent. And I can only imagine what Scottish people feel about that character from Ice Cream Wars...even though I sort of understand why he was Scottish.

Going on the subject of documentaries, G1 MLP has been featured on TV, in magazines and on radio before but not to the extent of the Bronies. Particularly in the UK for a spell. I think it was an I love Toys special that had Reaperfox interviewed on it, and there have been a few UK magazine articles too. I was interviewed on Welsh radio once but that was so long ago now...I don't think that there's been no attention, but somehow (maybe this is an unpopular opinion?) I think that it's better the tacky media attention is focused on the brony community? Modern day media looks for sensationalism and encourages trolling. I wouldn't want my collection or collectable out there in that mess...it doesn't matter to me whether everyone knows about ponies or whether they don't. I've been doing this far too long to care ;)

Perhaps I'm old-fashioned but I would also rather have five new ponypeople come into the community in a year (of any generation fandom) because of love of the toy/series/concept rather than 500 come in on the back of a fad wave everyone is talking about. I still hope that when the fad wave is over, the bronies that are left will become part of the same community as the rest of us, and we'll all just get on with it quietly, but maybe that's naive.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 24, 2017, 11:05:28 AM
I don't mind the different accents either. Although Truly's does grate on my nerves. She sounds like she's trying too hard to do several different southern accents at once. But then again, I never liked her anyway. I don't like G4 AJ's accent either. She also sounds like she's trying too hard, although at least hers is more consistent.

I don't mind Baby Quackers quacking or Thistle Whistle's whistling.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on August 24, 2017, 11:31:07 AM


Going on the subject of documentaries, G1 MLP has been featured on TV, in magazines and on radio before but not to the extent of the Bronies. Particularly in the UK for a spell. I think it was an I love Toys special that had Reaperfox interviewed on it, and there have been a few UK magazine articles too. I was interviewed on Welsh radio once but that was so long ago now...I don't think that there's been no attention, but somehow (maybe this is an unpopular opinion?) I think that it's better the tacky media attention is focused on the brony community? Modern day media looks for sensationalism and encourages trolling. I wouldn't want my collection or collectable out there in that mess...it doesn't matter to me whether everyone knows about ponies or whether they don't. I've been doing this far too long to care ;)
but i hope they do a documentary for every pony varyation in g1
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: alaskaallie on September 02, 2017, 05:28:22 AM
I have... no interest in any of the TV shows, it's all about the toys for me! As a result, I really can't stand the whole thing around G4. The toys are soooo boooooringgg like how do they get away with just reproducing the same pony except, oh the packaging is different and now they have a little stamp by their eye.... I was so excited when I found out there was going to be another gen of pony toys and I tried to like them but they don't even look like horses  :(

I was (still am a bit) really a horse girl so was not a fan of 3.5 and 4 because they hardly read as horses anymore with their big round heads and noodle legs. At least G 3.5 had joints in their legs and those cute playsets for the minis. With G4 they are just too small to do anything interesting with anyway and even the poses are limited with their bizarre heads, the colors are meh and they just seem so cheap...

not an uncommon opinion, but I have been unpleasantly surprised by some of the nastiness from the current generation- there was no equivalent to this "brony culture" in fans of previous generations.  Really puts me off the whole thing. But yay for the people who do like G4 toys- it is fun to collect something that's currently in stores!  :biggrin:

Post Merge: September 02, 2017, 05:31:50 AM


Perhaps I'm old-fashioned but I would also rather have five new ponypeople come into the community in a year (of any generation fandom) because of love of the toy/series/concept rather than 500 come in on the back of a fad wave everyone is talking about. I still hope that when the fad wave is over, the bronies that are left will become part of the same community as the rest of us, and we'll all just get on with it quietly, but maybe that's naive.

I absolutely agree! The whole thing is strange to me. We can hope it will go something like that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on September 02, 2017, 12:01:52 PM
I'm not a big fan of Twinkle eye ponies as toys even though I know they are really popular. I like their animated and comic counterparts. though. I also love the story of how Applejack found and freed the twinkle eye ponies.  :) 

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on September 02, 2017, 12:48:37 PM
firefly is so overated and grey and yellow horse is just an unfunny mean joke
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 02, 2017, 01:43:11 PM
firefly is so overated and grey and yellow horse is just an unfunny mean joke

Gray and yellow horse?

Yes I think Firefly is a bit overrated. I don't like the pose she's in and her symbol doesn't match up to her name. Nice singing voice though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on September 02, 2017, 01:45:17 PM
firefly is so overated and grey and yellow horse is just an unfunny mean joke

Gray and yellow horse?

Ditzy/Muffins, I'm guessing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on September 02, 2017, 01:57:02 PM
I like the G3 Tiny Tins. I don't know if that's unpopular or not, but they are HTF so I'm guessing they didn't sell that well?

I only have Sew-and-So without her Tin. I'd really like Bumblesweet, she's my fav of the set(s).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on September 02, 2017, 02:14:32 PM
I like the G3 Tiny Tins. I don't know if that's unpopular or not, but they are HTF so I'm guessing they didn't sell that well?

I only have Sew-and-So without her Tin. I'd really like Bumblesweet, she's my fav of the set(s).

I didn't know about these before! They look very cute!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on September 02, 2017, 03:08:15 PM
I like the Tiny Tins too! Just had a proper look at their article on the wiki - I didn't know they had movable heads, that's so cool!! I wouldn't mind one or two :) I like misc merch like that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 02, 2017, 03:30:20 PM
I like the G3 Tiny Tins. I don't know if that's unpopular or not, but they are HTF so I'm guessing they didn't sell that well?

I only have Sew-and-So without her Tin. I'd really like Bumblesweet, she's my fav of the set(s).

The Tiny Tins are adorable! I'd love to have some.

Post Merge: September 02, 2017, 03:30:46 PM

firefly is so overated and grey and yellow horse is just an unfunny mean joke

Gray and yellow horse?

Ditzy/Muffins, I'm guessing.

Oh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on September 02, 2017, 03:40:27 PM
firefly is so overated and grey and yellow horse is just an unfunny mean joke

Gray and yellow horse?

Ditzy/Muffins, I'm guessing.
yeah cus its mostly the voice and her clumsyness is a joke that seems like it would be on south park instead of a show teaching kids about love
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lady Frostbite on September 03, 2017, 01:15:39 AM
I might as well confess to finding Octavia Melody's voice to be beautiful.  I don't mind if it was supposed to be English or not, I think it suited her personally.   ^.^


I don't mind ponies with different accents, it suggests different regions of Ponyland. But I consider fake English accents culturally offensive and that's another matter. So if an American cartoon does several regional US accents, like Truly's, that's not an issue. And if they get a voice artist from a country to do a specific accent, that's fine. But I hate when (usually) US TV shows think it's ok to fake an accent. And I can only imagine what Scottish people feel about that character from Ice Cream Wars...even though I sort of understand why he was Scottish.

Bad Scottish accents rub me up the wrong way something fierce and borderline political. It goes back to the time period where being Scottish was something almost shameful (think Renton's quote in Trainspotting), and this twee shortbread tin image of Scotland perpetuated by UK media made it even worse. Scottish pride is on the rise, and we are noticing how horrible fake accents are and how it's picked up by other characters. Hell, on Emmerdale I believe ome Scottish character had her accent/the fact she was Scottish mocked by another character (I think the spat was over a man) and was headbutted in the face for her troubles XD

It's either hideously, offensively fake, or when they get someone ACTUALLY Scottish, they pick a voice that's annoying who telegraphs the accent. An obvious accent works in Scottish comedy - think Chewin' the Fat that had very broad Glaswegian accents in a lot of scenes for comedic effect or to make a character authentic - but not so much in serious dramas about petticoats and honour.

Decades of exposure to that 'tea and crumpets God save the Queen pip pip' 'British' garbage as made me very short-tempered when it comes to 'English' accents in media. I honestly get shocked if I hear an English regional accent that isn't that London-tourist trash. Give me a Dave Lister-Liverpool or a Not-the-curtains-lad! Yorkshire accent any day!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on September 03, 2017, 03:16:13 AM
I might as well confess that I dislike the Apples' accents.
English is not my native language but even I can hear that they are really forced. I spent time abroad and I heard a lot of Southern US accents. Some of which I almost couldn't understand.
But nothing was like that annoying twang Applebloom has. The entire "the Apples are hicks" thing is weird to me.

I guess that's just because I'm not from the US and I don't understand all your stereotypes. But in my country farming is not something associated with Texans or cowboys, so I actually enjoy that our dub doesn't have an accent. She just talks ponified country-isms.
A lot of German fans hate that she doesn't have an American accent but that would sound so forced and dumb here. I don't know... I don't need it. She's just a farmer with a cowboy hat.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on September 03, 2017, 02:37:07 PM
I might as well confess that I dislike the Apples' accents.
English is not my native language but even I can hear that they are really forced. I spent time abroad and I heard a lot of Southern US accents. Some of which I almost couldn't understand.
But nothing was like that annoying twang Applebloom has. The entire "the Apples are hicks" thing is weird to me.

I guess that's just because I'm not from the US and I don't understand all your stereotypes. But in my country farming is not something associated with Texans or cowboys, so I actually enjoy that our dub doesn't have an accent. She just talks ponified country-isms.
A lot of German fans hate that she doesn't have an American accent but that would sound so forced and dumb here. I don't know... I don't need it. She's just a farmer with a cowboy hat.

As a Texan, thought I'd just put in my two rambling cents here.  Technically, cowboys aren't associated with farming here either.  That's ranching which is very different from farming and historicaly ranchers and farmers didn't always get along.  We *are* known for cotton.  But definitely not apples as most apple trees require a longer and colder winter than we typically get down here.  (We do love our peaches and our pecans, though (pronounced pe-CAHN, thank you very much :P ))

But anyway, the general stereotype is that a "Texas" accent is shorthand for "country" or "unsophisticated " or, as you said, a "hick".  Though, we aren't the only ones, pretty much any Southern state with a distinct accent gets the same treatment.  We're just the most widely known with a conveniently identifiable accessory (the hat.)

So does the Apples admittedly bad accent bother me?  Not really.  True, it is a bad accent.  But the Apples aren't generally portrayed in a negative light.  In fact, they personify several things we Texans take a lot of pride in : Hard work, common sense and family.

Here ends my rambling. :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pierlala on September 03, 2017, 03:20:24 PM
Why the hate against Rapunzel? *Cuddles Punzie* "There, there...they don't mean it like that".

1. I don't like Twinkle eye Ponies. Except Quackers and Masquerade.

2. I didn't like the final result of the "Let's make a Pony" thread. (Possibly because she was a Twinkle Eye and she was just TOO MUCH!)

3. I don't like the Collector's Pose. It makes ponies looks fat (huge butt and head/short legs) and they have an unhappy, even a little bit dopey face expression.

4. I HATE it when people use bait/vintage ponies to customize them. I HATE IT! YES I SAID IT! Keep your hands off of the Vintage 80's. If you feel the need to tinker on a pony, atleast try to bring them back to their former glory. Even if they are bait...let them be. It shows that they were well loved and played with. Clean them up and give them a happy home.

5. I don't care for pony merchandise. Not even the vintage.

6. I always get sad when I see a pony lover get rid of or selling their collection.

7. I love simple ponies like Tootsie and Posey the most. They just give that simple no nonsense pony feeling that I can't otherwise discribe.

8. I don't care for baby ponies at all. I dont understand why some go for so much. In my logical brain it tells me "It's less pony for more money".

9. I hate the character Starlight Glimmer from the FiM show. She makes Twilight Sparkle feel obsolete. She can do everything Twilight can, only better. She doesn't need Twilight at all. Though the show makes her look weak from time to time just to try and drag out the storyline as she needs to "learn about friendship". Starts to get old. But even then she doesn't need Twilight. She overshadows Twilight and I feel she's just in the way.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on September 03, 2017, 03:37:18 PM
Why the hate against Rapunzel? *Cuddles Punzie* "There, there...they don't mean it like that".

1. I don't like Twinkle eye Ponies. Except Quackers and Masquerade.

2. I didn't like the final result of the "Let's make a Pony" thread. (Possibly because she was a Twinkle Eye and she was just TOO MUCH!)

3. I don't like the Collector's Pose. It makes ponies looks fat (huge butt and head/short legs) and they have an unhappy, even a little bit dopey face expression.

4. I HATE it when people use bait/vintage ponies to customize them. I HATE IT! YES I SAID IT! Keep your hands off of the Vintage 80's. If you feel the need to tinker on a pony, atleast try to bring them back to their former glory. Even if they are bait...let them be. It shows that they were well loved and played with. Clean them up and give them a happy home.

5. I don't care for pony merchandise. Not even the vintage.

6. I always get sad when I see a pony lover get rid of or selling their collection.

7. I love simple ponies like Tootsie and Posey the most. They just give that simple no nonsense pony feeling that I can't otherwise discribe.

8. I don't care for baby ponies at all. I dont understand why some go for so much. In my logical brain it tells me "It's less pony for more money".

I'm with you on a few of these:

I think Collectors pose ponies look depressed.

I love simple ponies without gimmicks, and for that reason European exclusive sets are among my favorites.

I don't collect baby ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on September 06, 2017, 05:36:51 AM
I'm not sure how popular/unpopular this is, but Snuzzle isn't one of my favorite ponies.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on September 07, 2017, 09:14:54 AM
I'm not sure how popular/unpopular this is, but Snuzzle isn't one of my favorite ponies.


Ponyfan
OMG!!  Noooo!! NOt possible! 

Haha... just kidding.  ;)     Snuzzle was a grail for me as a kid because she was a year gone by the time I became aware of her.  Mostly because I wanted ponies from every color.  Same with Minty and Blue Bell.  But that doesn't mean that I think everyone should love her.  <3
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 07, 2017, 12:14:56 PM
I didn't actually know Snuzzle really existed as a child, which is weird because she was released so many different ways in the UK - on her own, with Baby Bow Tie's stroller (Argos), with the 1987 Grooming Parlour...but she was a mysterious pony in the Fact File that I thought was made up because she wasn't ever in a comic or anything. Along with Minty who was coloured in purple, Bluebelle with her name misspelt and Butterscotch. Ironic considering they were three of the original ponies to be produced and all of them were readily available in the UK. Unlike ponies like Glory and Medley whose existence I never doubted but who were never sold here. So weird how Hasbro made those decisions.

I think she is quite pretty, colourwise, but like Pierlala, I am not a fan of her pose. I also agree with Pierlala's 4, 6 and 7 points, and especially 4. I feel exactly the same. Both with that and with deboxing of vintage pony items. I think it might be unpopular and I have mentioned it before, but I do believe in responsibility to the community and future of pony collecting by preserving what we can of the past now, while we still have it. That's the historian in me I think. My pony motto is generally 'do no harm'. I also tend to see rehairs and repaints as customs, not restorations.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on September 07, 2017, 12:24:53 PM


 I also agree with Pierlala's 4, 6 and 7 points, and especially 4. I feel exactly the same. Both with that and with deboxing of vintage pony items. I think it might be unpopular and I have mentioned it before, but I do believe in responsibility to the community and future of pony collecting by preserving what we can of the past now, while we still have it. That's the historian in me I think. My pony motto is generally 'do no harm'. I also tend to see rehairs and repaints as customs, not restorations.




I agree with Tafetta on deboxing/decarding vintage pony items. I know we're supposed to say that the decision is up to the person but I'll never forgot when I was still new to collecting MLP and someone commented on how pristine another member's ponies looked and they replied that they had been bought as MOC and the owner had decarded them because "they liked them better that way" Even though when I still had a lot to learn about ponies I was sad to know that these beautiful ponies had been decarded after all of those years of staying sealed on their cards.

I am okay with decarding/opening vintage  items if there is an issue like mold growing in the card/damaging the pony etc..

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pierlala on September 07, 2017, 12:43:07 PM
What I think (don't hate me for this, just stating my opinion)...is that customizers don't fully realize that THIS is what we have now. G1 is never coming back. THe ponies from the 80's that are on this planet is all we have. And with all this customizing and rehairing etc. There will be less and less in vintage/original condition. It is also (in a way) mean towards future collectors. G1's are already pricey and some starting to become a bit rediculously over priced, due to less and less being available. Customizing isn't a niche anymore, it's done by so many people.

I understand it feels nice and you can put your own creativity in a pony. But what is most damning to me is that -often- the customized pony is a personal preference. You made the pony into what -YOU- liked at that specific moment. Maybe in a year or so you lose interest in the custom and put it on Ebay or in a box in the attic. That's why you see tons and tons of customs for months on end on Ebay without being sold. People don't like YOUR custom. -YOU- liked yours and now it's up for sale.

Also...people making customs just to put them on Ebay. I have seen the same customs for a year now against a rediculously high price. But no one will buy it as the word already said "custom" it's personal preference. Chances that someone else will like it are slim. I mean sure as "Oh that looks nice". But not in a "OMG I want to have it" kind of way. Which you do have with the originals.

With an untouched vintage, cleaned up/washed ofcourse. You can sell it on to the next person and it WILL be sold and loved way faster. And you can make other collectors happy with the pony you once loved. Now it's their turn.

This is a cry towards the custom community. I often hear statements as "It's like giving them a second life". But to me it's like stealing their soul and leave an empty shell of bells and whistles.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 07, 2017, 01:50:12 PM
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion or not, but I can't stand G3 Pinkie Pie.  Her voice is so annoying and she's the epitome of the things I don't like about G3.  Don't get me wrong, there is plenty that I DO like about G3.  But not the overly optimistic, overly perky, best-friends-with-everyone, pink-pink-pink that you see with G3 Pinkie. 

But yeah, mostly her voice.  :P

I'm not fond of G4 Pinkie Pie either, but I will take her over stuffed-nose G3 Pinkie Pie any day.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 07, 2017, 01:55:42 PM
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion or not, but I can't stand G3 Pinkie Pie.  She's annoying and her voice is so annoying.

I'm not fond of G4 Pinkie Pie either, but I will take her over stuffed-nose G3 Pinkie Pie any day.

Do you know what is weird? I was watching one of the G3 specials in Portuguese in Lisbon the other week and Pinkie Pie in Portuguese in G3 sounds a lot like G4 Pinkie Pie in English. Also Wysteria like Fluttershy in English. I don't know how that happens, but it's still true.

Random off topic but just struck me as weird.

I don't speak Portuguese at all but there was something in the voice tones...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on September 07, 2017, 01:57:53 PM
*nasal tone* "Minty, Minty, Minty..." :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 07, 2017, 02:39:55 PM
I don't see it as a horrible crime if people debox any vintage toy.  Rip that sucker open if you want to! Mwahahaha!


*Is immediately buried under a barrage of fakies*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on September 07, 2017, 04:04:04 PM
I'm not sure how popular/unpopular this is, but Snuzzle isn't one of my favorite ponies.
Ponyfan

Yeah, I'm not a fan of her gray color.

Here's another of mine and I'm not sure how popular/unpopular it is:

I prefer the ponies made in Years 4-7 over those made in Years 1-3.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on September 07, 2017, 04:23:12 PM
My collection does not belong to or exist for the community.

My collection is for me to enjoy.

Not for someone else to enjoy.

My collection is appropriate and appreciated by me, for me. Right now. In the present.

Plastic ponies are not real living endangered species.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on September 07, 2017, 04:41:10 PM
My collection does not belong to or exist for the community.

My collection is for me to enjoy.

Not for someone else to enjoy.

My collection is appropriate and appreciated by me, for me. Right now. In the present.

Plastic ponies are not real living endangered species.

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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SkyCakes on September 07, 2017, 06:14:30 PM
My collection does not belong to or exist for the community.

My collection is for me to enjoy.

Not for someone else to enjoy.

My collection is appropriate and appreciated by me, for me. Right now. In the present.

Plastic ponies are not real living endangered species.

I totally agree with that for real.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lollipop on September 07, 2017, 07:21:29 PM
Well first of all I do not and will not EVER.. 'hate' any ponies especially all G1s  :biggrin: I'm not a huge fan of the other gens but... They are still lovely and are starting to grow on me (a G3 baby has managed to sneak into my own collection & a G4 baby is giving me goo goo/puss in boots eyes atm  :lol:)

Hate is such a nasty word there are only a couple of things that I have hated in my life and that was for very very very good reasons.
'Hated' & unloved ponies just makes me want them more. If i had more money I'd buy all those little unloved ponies floating around whatever their conditions. I already buy every winger and Teeny Tiny i can  :biggrin:

I guess my obsession with baby ponies could be 'unpopular'... O well more for me  :biggrin:
Guess it's because Katie & Lollipop were 2 of my main ponies when i was little (still have both)... Plus the UK had so many great babies  ^.^
Teeny tinies are my fav and wingers! (i collect these ones in any condition)

Original I wasn't going to collect any adults at all... Which may again be unpopular... But milkyway changed all that a few years ago now I have a huge list of wants and a growing herd of adults. There are a few Adults im not a fan of... But they do grow on me I know I will just want every G1 in the end.


Although I can understand the not liking G1s customised. I don't quite think the same.
I'm not a fan of when ponies in good condition have been customised, if a ponies hair has been attacked with the scissors but symbols eyes etc are amazing then rehairing is a great option. Don't really like seeing ones with good bodies symbols etc being completely customised.
But omg customs can be amazing.

There are 'baity' ponies who do need saving though & customising is a great option.
I will never regret customising my cool breeze glisten (in my sig/see thread in customs) because she had a huge bite mark right on her face. This is the best way for me to save her (did ask around and couldn't find anyone to fix her nose). Plus she's mine!  :lol: she's not going anywhere  ^.^
Having a huge bite mark isn't really a well loved played with pony, its a poor pony who a kid used as a chew toy like a dog uses chew toys. Get them to eat some food... Suck on an ice cube/ice lolly if they are teething... Don't eat poor toy ponies! Poor little ponies  :(
Just makes me think of the evil kid on Toy Story. Poor little pony must of been through hell.



If I ever found a MOC or MIB, I would have to sell it quickly because I WILL open them if they stay with me (i will keep all packaging though).
I'm a big kid at heart and always think of all toys teddy's etc as if they were alive like in Toy Story
So old toys in boxes actually upset me because they haven't had the joy of being played with (don't want them to turn out like old spector in Toy Story 2  :lol:)
(perhaps very silly & i know it's not true but I can dream  :lol: i have a huge imagination and so many ideas they never stop  :lol:)
They are toys after all & were made to be played with not to sit in packaging. (i do understand why people collect moc mib though thats y if i found one id try to sell it first)
Something I don't really like is all the new 'limited edition' toys which are just left in boxes and never played with... Mainly Disney.... Surely some need a chance to be played with... Make them as a sculpture or make it of delicate glass or china if its meant to stay in the box and be for display... not as a toy.... Think it's a bit mean for kids. They see these beautiful toys in the shops and beg for them (i know I would of) but then they can't play with them because they are limited editions.... They are always so much money too way more they a lot of the G1s I want....


Unpopular perhaps popular not sure.... When (if) I have kids I will let them play with my ponies (obviously i might just have to play ponies with them too... Shame that  :lol:) . Obviously there will be no scissors pens etc allowed near them & they will have to wait until they are old enough to play with the wingers.
I do have a little cousin (well 2nd cousin) now who I can't wait to give her, her first pony (G1) when she is old enough. I already know which one she will have, its not a very expensive one but its perfect for her & turns out her mum (my cousins wife) always wanted ponies when she was little but she never had any, so i know she will love them too.

I guess my over imagination regarding ponies & over sentimentality could be unpopular  :lol:  :P o well hehe

But anyway everyone is entitled to their own opinions  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BabyBlueberry on September 07, 2017, 08:09:36 PM
Give me the G1 and G3 ponies that had manes, tails, and substance - that looked like sassy little ponies grazing in a field, in Technicolor. I never was a fan of G2, and G4 would be okay if they were bigger. I wish I'd gotten into collecting way earlier, around the beginning of say, 2003/2004, when pony goodness filled up nearly an ENTIRE AISLE of my local Wal-Mart!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 08, 2017, 03:38:48 AM


But anyway everyone is entitled to their own opinions  :biggrin:

And this is the most important motif of this thread :)

As for the MIP/decard debate, it is I think still the most controversial thing in the community, with people firmly on both sides for different reasons.

When I first came into pony collecting online I didn't understand anything about MOC. A lot of ponies we got from clearance stores in the middle 1990s (a lot of which are htf now) got decarded or deboxed because I was still mostly a kid and didn't think about the consequences. I wouldn't say I regret that, because I was still a teenager and I didn't know any better.

But I guess with time I've come to a very firm position about ponies in packaging. I think it came about mostly because I collect UK ponies in package, and they are not like the US release ponies. There are a lot of US release ponies on card still from some sets, like the TAF ponies and the TE ponies from the first set. I don't personally like the idea of decarding those, but in a sense, if one or two are decarded, it doesn't obliterate the existence of those items from our community. Maybe this makes me a hypocrite, I don't know, but I feel it's best to be honest. UK MOC examples from the old years are already scarce. I feel like that means one decarded pony basically removes a piece of our knowledge going forwards.

For me decarding a MOC pony is the same as tossing a Nirvana pony into the incinerator, or cutting it into pieces. If someone wants to do that to a Nirvana, or a OOAK pony, they can. It's their property, right? I suspect that there'd be much  more outrage about that than there is about decarding though. For those of us for whom specific MIP ponies are the grail item, it's very upsetting when people post bragging about decarding, post images, videos etc. I don't say that you can't do as you like with your own property, but I find those threads really provocative.

Not liking something is not a reason to disrespect the people who do, basically. That's how I feel about things like this. I don't like Takara ponies or piggy ponies, but if I had one, I'd sell it. I wouldn't take time to mutilate or customise it and then post images or video about it on the forum bragging about how much I had enjoyed the process.

If you have something in a form you don't like, then it makes sense to me to sell it, get the money and buy the thing you actually want. I don't understand the mentality of anyone who has something they don't like, knows someone else wants it, and instead of selling it so it can be appreciated, they choose to destroy it "because they can."

Basically it's more than about an individual's personal right over their property. I think that everyone does have that right, even if that is decarding or customising, but there are ways and means in which to tackle it and sometimes discretion is the better part of valour. It's fine to consider your collection yours to do with as you like, but the moment you start bragging about all the things you customised or decarded, then you bring it into other people's faces, and that has an impact on those people and how they feel. I think it's fine to do what you believe in, but it doesn't hurt to consider other people's positions before making that kind of a post.

And now I'm expecting to be pelted by the fakies, but that is my unpopular opinion in favour of the community over the individual in pony collecting :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on September 08, 2017, 04:26:46 AM
Quote from: Taffeta link=topic=385476.msg1664247#msg1664247
(...) but the moment you start bragging about all the things you customised or decarded, then you bring it into other people's faces, and that has an impact on those people and how they feel. I think it's fine to do what you believe in, but it doesn't hurt to consider other people's positions before making that kind of a post.

Agreed. What you post within a community is meant for the community, so of course there will be all sorts of opinions. People who can't deal with that can always opt to post these things on their personal websites, blogs and streams and just delete the comments they don't want. That's their right.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lollipop on September 08, 2017, 04:36:35 AM


But anyway everyone is entitled to their own opinions  :biggrin:

And this is the most important motif of this thread :)

As for the MIP/decard debate, it is I think still the most controversial thing in the community, with people firmly on both sides for different reasons.

When I first came into pony collecting online I didn't understand anything about MOC. A lot of ponies we got from clearance stores in the middle 1990s (a lot of which are htf now) got decarded or deboxed because I was still mostly a kid and didn't think about the consequences. I wouldn't say I regret that, because I was still a teenager and I didn't know any better.

But I guess with time I've come to a very firm position about ponies in packaging. I think it came about mostly because I collect UK ponies in package, and they are not like the US release ponies. There are a lot of US release ponies on card still from some sets, like the TAF ponies and the TE ponies from the first set. I don't personally like the idea of decarding those, but in a sense, if one or two are decarded, it doesn't obliterate the existence of those items from our community. Maybe this makes me a hypocrite, I don't know, but I feel it's best to be honest. UK MOC examples from the old years are already scarce. I feel like that means one decarded pony basically removes a piece of our knowledge going forwards.

For me decarding a MOC pony is the same as tossing a Nirvana pony into the incinerator, or cutting it into pieces. If someone wants to do that to a Nirvana, or a OOAK pony, they can. It's their property, right? I suspect that there'd be much  more outrage about that than there is about decarding though. For those of us for whom specific MIP ponies are the grail item, it's very upsetting when people post bragging about decarding, post images, videos etc. I don't say that you can't do as you like with your own property, but I find those threads really provocative.

Not liking something is not a reason to disrespect the people who do, basically. That's how I feel about things like this. I don't like Takara ponies or piggy ponies, but if I had one, I'd sell it. I wouldn't take time to mutilate or customise it and then post images or video about it on the forum bragging about how much I had enjoyed the process.

If you have something in a form you don't like, then it makes sense to me to sell it, get the money and buy the thing you actually want. I don't understand the mentality of anyone who has something they don't like, knows someone else wants it, and instead of selling it so it can be appreciated, they choose to destroy it "because they can."

Basically it's more than about an individual's personal right over their property. I think that everyone does have that right, even if that is decarding or customising, but there are ways and means in which to tackle it and sometimes discretion is the better part of valour. It's fine to consider your collection yours to do with as you like, but the moment you start bragging about all the things you customised or decarded, then you bring it into other people's faces, and that has an impact on those people and how they feel. I think it's fine to do what you believe in, but it doesn't hurt to consider other people's positions before making that kind of a post.

And now I'm expecting to be pelted by the fakies, but that is my unpopular opinion in favour of the community over the individual in pony collecting :)

Completely makes sense to me. I do understand why people like to collect MIB & MOC, I am just not one of them... but as I said that is why I would always try to sell the MIB or MOC first or even better trade it for loose ponies  :biggrin:
If say I got a Mimic MOC (one of my grails) I wouldn't open her, I would defo sell her.... but I would hold on to her until I found a Mimic at least. (would probably have to hide her away in a box though so I wasn't tempted to open it  :lol:)
I wouldn't mind the packaging of some ponies though (ponies removed) especially winger boxes. Wish I kept my Lollipop packaging when I was younger  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pierlala on September 08, 2017, 04:50:53 AM
Wow people actually make videos opening MoC? Ooooh boy, that would be my boiling point.

A while ago I spoke to a person who had bought all sortf of Barbie playsets, cars, bike, camper, horses etc. All mint in box. She said she bought it all for her young daughter 4 years old to open it on her birthday. I couldn't believe me ears. I told her why she would do such a thing. It's not like these things aren't able to be found loose and already opened. She didn't get the purpose of MiB collecting and just saw it as an opportunity for her daughter to play with toys from "back then". She is a few years older then me and grew up as a 90's kid. I played with Barbie too back then so I know all the sets and know who valuable they are now.

After I told her that, she really got kind of irritated and said: "So when should I give it to her then? Just let it sit there another 30 years?" I tried to explain to het that that was the purpose of a MiB item for a collector. I don't know. I'm not into Barbie, but I find it quite selfish to open MiB items from the 80's and 90's. Because first of all there is a huge market fot them and collectors who really want them. Second there are so many Barbie sets out there and cars and what not already opened up. Third, there are so many Barbie items and Barbies in the stores right now.

This same person has sold her whole MLP collection on a local "Ebay" like website. So that's where I know her from. I also bought a couple of her Ponies. That's how we got to talk. Her cousin put a full set of CP year 2 Ponies on that website for sale. She told her that she didn't feel like selling anymore so gave the rest of her ponies that were ;eft over to her cousin. Her cousin then told me that those Ponies who were litteraly brand new with all ribbons+combs were actually MiP before she gave them to her cousin. She removed them from the plastic to take better pictures -_-. Even her cousin knew that that was a very dumb and unneccesairy thing to do.

I eventually bought the ponies. I am not a fan of CP, but they were in such a fabulous condition that I didn't want to skip on them. Because I know if I want to buy from the US it would be atleast trice as expensive + shipping.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on September 08, 2017, 06:09:29 AM
Well, this will clearly be an unpopular opinion.  But I say if you are going to unbox a MIP g1 anyway, go ahead and record it.  At least that way there is a record and others can vicariously enjoy the moment with you.  I did that exact thing with a carded Blueberry Baskets.  She was water damaged and moldy inside the bubble.  But I recorded the opening and clean up so others could vicariously experience something they hadn't experienced in 30 years.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pierlala on September 08, 2017, 08:15:14 AM
Well, this will clearly be an unpopular opinion.  But I say if you are going to unbox a MIP g1 anyway, go ahead and record it.  At least that way there is a record and others can vicariously enjoy the moment with you.  I did that exact thing with a carded Blueberry Baskets.  She was water damaged and moldy inside the bubble.  But I recorded the opening and clean up so others could vicariously experience something they hadn't experienced in 30 years.

That is a whole different scenario though. I wouldn't mind that at all. Yours was damaged and molded. I'd hate to see a pony waste away like that. I would even love to see the cleaning progress.

But to deliberatly open a clean, undamaged MoC would be a kick in the face in my opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on September 08, 2017, 08:38:53 AM
I like customizing ponies but I really don't like how customized G1s look.  I don't know why.  It's not because I think they should be exempt from customization--though I think customizing a nice looking G1 over a baity one isn't the best choice in the world-- it's just that I don't generally like the end result.  I think the style/poses/design of G3s and G4s is much better for custom work.  Plus the constant re-issue of the Mane 6 in the G4 line provides lots of duplicates that I just don't feel bad customizing into a different pony.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 08, 2017, 01:48:48 PM
I have reached the point with decarding where I dislike it but I am not going to declare war on someone over different collection politics. I might choose not to sell a moc pony to someone who I know decards but that to me is an extension of the my property my decision rules. Unfortunately I have received negative messages for making that choice which is a shame.  I think the best way to combat it for me is to work hard to get the mip items I can because then they are going to stay sealed. My sister is very against mip and I am not but we both know that and it is fine. She would never tell me I should open my mip ponies because it us cruel, she understands why I love them. And I would never tell her to collect mip stuff. She just chooses to buy loose ponies rather than decarding mip ones.

I find videos, photos, brag threads about decarding generally upsetting. I respect the right to choose how you collect as a private thing even if I don't do it, but the moment it is in the community it is no longer an individual who is affected but everyone who sees the thread. And yes, you can just not read the thread, but I find it a bit tactless that people make threads with titles obviously glorifying decarding. I think Moc collectors get backed into this corner in situations like that and it somehow then becomes not ok to collect moc as it is 'cruel'. It is just my perspective but for me cruel is posting threads glorifying the destruction of something that makes another person happy. I know a lot of people get cross when g1 stuff gets slammed by the less reputable FIM people, but I don't think sometimes people realise what they are posting could be distressing to someone else. Not that the whole forum should be censored but just a little more awareness I guess?

It  isn't that I don't respect personal choice, I just feel there is a sense that that only applies to people who want to decard. It only ever comes up in those discussions and only in regards to justifying decarding. Ponies are toys, they don't care if they are played with or not. Collectors are people and that matters to me more.

I rarely post when I get a new Moc because someone will joke about Toy story or setting it free or stuff like that and I guess what I am trying to say is that for me, having the moc is a piece of precious nostalgia. And I accept others express their nostalgia differently but I just think sometimes more tact could be applied.

I honestly don't know what I think of mercy decarding. I have never had a mouldy pony to deal with. I have one with almost an entirely broken bubble base but I have not decarded her. I think i the case of mould the rules are probably different. I have to be honest though, the video thing I am not a fan of.

I am happy this is being discussed respectfully.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on September 22, 2017, 07:07:24 PM
Are the Sunshine ponies popular? I love Waverunner and Beach Ball.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 22, 2017, 10:28:05 PM
Are the Sunshine ponies popular? I love Waverunner and Beach Ball.


Ponyfan

I think they're sort of inbetween. Plenty of people like them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pierlala on September 23, 2017, 02:36:57 AM
I love Waverunner. She was one of my later childhood herds. I got her from the neighbour of my grandma who was getting rid of all her My Little Pony G1.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on September 23, 2017, 04:02:54 AM
Are the Sunshine ponies popular? I love Waverunner and Beach Ball.

I always thought those are the most popular Sunshines :lol:
Everybody loves Beachball.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 23, 2017, 05:37:26 AM
Are the Sunshine ponies popular? I love Waverunner and Beach Ball.

I always thought those are the most popular Sunshines :lol:
Everybody loves Beachball.

I am staunchly behind Sand Digger. Although I admit as a child I wanted Beachball and Sand Digger was a consolation. I grew to love her, though. I also think Sea Flower is amazing, but we never had her over here :/

So I think they're quite popular O.o. But if it's unpopular to like Sand Digger more than Beachball, then that's my unpopular opinion on the Sunshine ponies :)

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 23, 2017, 08:27:48 AM
Wave Runner, Mainsail, Seaflower and Sand Digger are my favorites. I don't like Beach ball. Shoreline is just eh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on September 23, 2017, 12:05:10 PM
Sea flower is in my childhood herd and I think she is lovely!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khayman81 on September 24, 2017, 02:14:20 AM
Wow people actually make videos opening MoC? Ooooh boy, that would be my boiling point.
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Yesterday l saw a deboxing of a MIC Applejack, so l guess she was pretty old. It was on Instagram. For me ponies should be free from the boxes, but l can understand that it upsets collectors. That's why l always buy loose ponies and mostly baity ones.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on September 24, 2017, 02:51:09 AM
I always thought those are the most popular Sunshines :lol:
Everybody loves Beachball.


Then I guess it's an unpopular opinion that I don't like Beachball. :P I like her least, together with Shoreline ("50% OFF! TODAY ONLY!"). Sand Digger and Mainsail are my absolute favourites, followed by Waverunner. ^.^
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 24, 2017, 04:45:50 AM
I always thought those are the most popular Sunshines :lol:
Everybody loves Beachball.


Then I guess it's an unpopular opinion that I don't like Beachball. :P

Now I feel sorry for Beachball...;)

On a slightly connected note, my unpopular opinion...

This pony is called Hula Hula.
http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/hula_hula.htm

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on September 24, 2017, 06:01:53 AM
I know her as Pina Colada but Hula Hula makes more sense since she has Palm trees as a symbol instead of a drink.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 24, 2017, 10:36:25 AM
I always thought those are the most popular Sunshines :lol:
Everybody loves Beachball.


Then I guess it's an unpopular opinion that I don't like Beachball. :P

Now I feel sorry for Beachball...;)

On a slightly connected note, my unpopular opinion...

This pony is called Hula Hula.
http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/hula_hula.htm

I'm of the opinion that the US people botched their names. Pina Colada should have been Tootie`s name and Hula Hula makes more sense for Pina Colada  and Sea Breeze for Hula Hula. Your girl sure is vibrant! :lovey:



Post Merge: September 24, 2017, 10:37:09 AM

I know her as Pina Colada but Hula Hula makes more sense since she has Palm trees as a symbol instead of a drink.


Ponyfan

Maybe the people at Hasbro had one too many drinks? XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 24, 2017, 10:38:35 AM
I always thought those are the most popular Sunshines :lol:
Everybody loves Beachball.


Then I guess it's an unpopular opinion that I don't like Beachball. :P

Now I feel sorry for Beachball...;)

On a slightly connected note, my unpopular opinion...

This pony is called Hula Hula.
http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/hula_hula.htm

I'm of the opinion that the US people botched their names. Pina Colada should have been Tootie`s name and Hula Hula makes more sense for Pina Colada  and Sea Breeze for Hula Hula. Your girl sure is vibrant! :lovey:



She lived with my sister for many years. It probably made her radioactive ;) I'm personally amazed her hair is still curly...
Although that said I got the tropical unicorn in a lot from the US a while back and comparing her to my childhood one, they are not the same colour O.o. So the UK name for the unicorn is Sail Away, and the US name is Hula Hula, so the one I got from the US is now officially known in my herd as Hulaway. Just because ;)

I wonder if Hula Hula was the original name for her and it was moved around ponies. I think it's the only time it happens. Different names between UK and US are common, but the same name on a different pony? Not so much...

Very odd :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 24, 2017, 10:50:53 AM
Hulaway! XD

My Sail Away is nicknamed Kalea which is Hawaiian for Bright.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 24, 2017, 10:54:38 AM
Hulaway! XD

My Sail Away is nicknamed Kalea which is Hawaiian for Bright.

That's really pretty :D
I did think that if there's a variation on the yellow pony from the set (UK: Summer Heatwave, US: Tootie Tails) I might make her Tootie Heatwave. That seems appropriately amusing. If a bit cruel.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 24, 2017, 10:56:20 AM
Hulaway! XD

My Sail Away is nicknamed Kalea which is Hawaiian for Bright.

That's really pretty :D
I did think that if there's a variation on the yellow pony from the set (UK: Summer Heatwave, US: Tootie Tails) I might make her Tootie Heatwave. That seems appropriately amusing. If a bit cruel.

:haha: Not  how I expected our doom to arrive.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on September 24, 2017, 12:10:33 PM
I couldn't even pronounce Pina Colada as a child so I called her Pina Cola. :) :) Leave a Whisper, I've wondered from time to time what went on in those Hasbro meetings when they were coming up with pony names. 


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 24, 2017, 12:14:32 PM
@Ponyfan-That's so cute!

I'm tired of McDonald's Ponies being half moulded, half brushable. I think its tacky. I wish they'd go one way or the other.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SkyCakes on September 24, 2017, 12:37:26 PM
@Ponyfan-That's so cute!

I'm tired of McDonald's Ponies being half moulded, half brushable. I think its tacky. I wish they'd go one way or the other.

Then because little kids take those toys they would go with moulded because of the choking hazard. I find it would be sad for me because I like brushables but oh well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 24, 2017, 12:49:47 PM
@Ponyfan-That's so cute!

I'm tired of McDonald's Ponies being half moulded, half brushable. I think its tacky. I wish they'd go one way or the other.

Then because little kids take those toys they would go with moulded because of the choking hazard. I find it would be sad for me because I like brushables but oh well.

Probably even more unpopular but I would not mind if McDonald's did not do ponies. They end up all over ebay lots and it is so hard to do anything with them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on September 25, 2017, 10:02:52 AM
I guess it's an unpopular opinion that I don't have one when it comes to the "it's your pony, do what you want/all ponies belong to the community"-debate. I tried thinking about how I feel about this subject, but I've come to the conclusion that I really, honestly don't care. :lookround:

Now I feel sorry for Beachball...;)

Haha well, to make it better, I don't think she's ugly or anything, she's just in the wrong set. :P She doesn't scream "sunshine" to me at all with those colours. I would have loved her if they picked some sunnier colours for her!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 25, 2017, 10:12:53 AM
I guess it's an unpopular opinion that I don't have one when it comes to the "it's your pony, do what you want/all ponies belong to the community"-debate. I tried thinking about how I feel about this subject, but I've come to the conclusion that I really, honestly don't care. :lookround:

Now I feel sorry for Beachball...;)

Haha well, to make it better, I don't think she's ugly or anything, she's just in the wrong set. :P She doesn't scream "sunshine" to me at all with those colours. I would have loved her if they picked some sunnier colours for her!

Wait, its an unpopular opinion that you don't have an opinion on all of us having our own opinions. Is that pretty much what you said? XD *gives cookies*

Aw. Well, I'm sure she tried really really hard to be sunshiney. Or maybe it's just that, growing up in the UK where summer is a mythical thing and sunshine even more so, it never occurred to me that pale blue and white wasn't sunshiny...I mean, that's about as blue as our sky ever gets in summer ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on September 25, 2017, 11:54:51 AM
I don't really follow G4 (the show or the toys) but I've at least gotten used to their look.

Now the new Seaponies have reminded me of all my "ew, what is that?" feelings all over again.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tulagirl on September 25, 2017, 02:01:45 PM
I don't really follow G4 (the show or the toys) but I've at least gotten used to their look.

Now the new Seaponies have reminded me of all my "ew, what is that?" feelings all over again.

I know they are creepy to me.  I am feeling guilty for not liking them too much. I wonder if they will grow on me, but right now I just am not getting a good feeling when looking at them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on September 25, 2017, 03:05:52 PM
I don't really follow G4 (the show or the toys) but I've at least gotten used to their look.

Now the new Seaponies have reminded me of all my "ew, what is that?" feelings all over again.

I know they are creepy to me.  I am feeling guilty for not liking them too much. I wonder if they will grow on me, but right now I just am not getting a good feeling when looking at them.

I dont like that most of them are the main six again..... do something new hasbro!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on September 26, 2017, 09:03:42 AM
Wait, its an unpopular opinion that you don't have an opinion on all of us having our own opinions. Is that pretty much what you said? XD *gives cookies*

Aw. Well, I'm sure she tried really really hard to be sunshiney. Or maybe it's just that, growing up in the UK where summer is a mythical thing and sunshine even more so, it never occurred to me that pale blue and white wasn't sunshiny...I mean, that's about as blue as our sky ever gets in summer ;)

Yes, that's pretty much it. *pats headache with cookies* :mrgreen: I tried to pick a side because I figured I had to have an opinion on it too, but I really couldn't pick a side because I saw something in both sides. Maybe it's a blessing. :P

You've got a point! I never thought of it that way, that she might represent the UK summers. That's sweet. ^.^
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: alaskaallie on September 27, 2017, 02:20:54 AM
What are some of your unpopular pony opinions?

I like most 3D symbols. Cutie Cascades, Princess Ponies, Magic Scenes, Precious Pockets, Secret Surprise, Merry Go Rounds.

I love tinsel hair. It's so beautiful, especially when it sparkles and flashes in sunlight.


I love gradient color and cascading symbol G3s. I think they're stunning and unique.

I know I'm late and maybe this has already been discussed but... are these unusual opinons?! I had no idea! I also secretly love tinsel then  :lol: these are the reasons why I love G3 so much- they really went crazy with the symbols. and precious pockets were my favorite childhood ponies!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 27, 2017, 07:44:34 AM
What are some of your unpopular pony opinions?

I like most 3D symbols. Cutie Cascades, Princess Ponies, Magic Scenes, Precious Pockets, Secret Surprise, Merry Go Rounds.

I love tinsel hair. It's so beautiful, especially when it sparkles and flashes in sunlight.


I love gradient color and cascading symbol G3s. I think they're stunning and unique.

I know I'm late and maybe this has already been discussed but... are these unusual opinons?! I had no idea! I also secretly love tinsel then  :lol: these are the reasons why I love G3 so much- they really went crazy with the symbols. and precious pockets were my favorite childhood ponies!

Not everyone is into 3D symbols and I hear the precious pockets are easy to break. I have Bunny Hop sans symbol, poor girl.

Tinsel is lovely, but even I have to admit it can be kinduva pain to care for. XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mermaid on September 27, 2017, 11:20:45 PM
Here is mine:
I hate taf ponies. I like the simplicity of just one symbol.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: alaskaallie on September 27, 2017, 11:28:36 PM
Here is mine:
I hate taf ponies. I like the simplicity of just one symbol.

Whaaaaaat?!  :shocked:
Now this is the content I came here to see and be shocked by.

Post Merge: September 27, 2017, 11:34:27 PM

What are some of your unpopular pony opinions?

I like most 3D symbols. Cutie Cascades, Princess Ponies, Magic Scenes, Precious Pockets, Secret Surprise, Merry Go Rounds.

I love tinsel hair. It's so beautiful, especially when it sparkles and flashes in sunlight.


I love gradient color and cascading symbol G3s. I think they're stunning and unique.

I know I'm late and maybe this has already been discussed but... are these unusual opinons?! I had no idea! I also secretly love tinsel then  :lol: these are the reasons why I love G3 so much- they really went crazy with the symbols. and precious pockets were my favorite childhood ponies!

Not everyone is into 3D symbols and I hear the precious pockets are easy to break. I have Bunny Hop sans symbol, poor girl.

Tinsel is lovely, but even I have to admit it can be kinduva pain to care for. XD

Of course tinsel can get ratty looking but when it's nice it's soooo niiiice... I love the sparkle. ah yes. I grew up with hand-me-down sweet pocket and bubblefish- sweet pocket's pocket was long gone and so was bubblefish's fish. Still loved them though. I'm looking for a bunny hop with an intact symbol! I've often heard that people think they're gimmicky but... I like gimmicky and ridiculous  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SkyCakes on September 28, 2017, 06:15:24 AM
I have a very unpopular opinion. I love all ponies. I even like the freaky BBES and eyelash princesses. The dance N prace with their weird button in front, the strange drink N wet babies, and even the peek a boo babies with their weird bulgy necks. Most of these ponies look great with their accessories so even the weird ones have a place in my herd.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on September 28, 2017, 07:44:55 AM
I have a very unpopular opinion. I love all ponies. I even like the freaky BBES and eyelash princesses. The dance N prace with their weird button in front, the strange drink N wet babies, and even the peek a boo babies with their weird bulgy necks. Most of these ponies look great with their accessories so even the weird ones have a place in my herd.

Same here! I just really love ponies! :lol:

Getting any pony I don't already have is always super exciting for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on September 28, 2017, 04:21:22 PM
Here is mine:
I hate taf ponies. I like the simplicity of just one symbol.


I don't like TAFs either, with the exception of the Sunshine Ponies, so you're not alone.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mermaid on September 29, 2017, 10:04:46 PM

Yay! I'm glad we've got each other northstar!

Glad I could shock you Alaskaallie!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 14, 2017, 11:18:36 AM
I like Goldilocks.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on October 16, 2017, 03:28:01 PM
I don't really follow G4 (the show or the toys) but I've at least gotten used to their look.

Now the new Seaponies have reminded me of all my "ew, what is that?" feelings all over again.


This   :blink:

Post Merge: October 16, 2017, 03:37:16 PM

So here's mine...I don't like Firefly  :(

I really want to like her because, well...she's Firefly, but I can't stand her weird flesh coloured body and blue hair combo.

It's a shame because I have almost all of the early G1s and there's a gaping hole in my collection where Firefly should be but I just can't bring myself to own her.

One solution I have considered is to maybe get a Nirvana version of her (if there is one with a different colour combo or something...) and then that would justify having her...if that makes sense? I've done that with Cherries Jubilee whose body colour I also can't stand. My Nirvana CJ is GREEN and that makes me very happy!!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 16, 2017, 10:31:39 PM
I don't really follow G4 (the show or the toys) but I've at least gotten used to their look.

Now the new Seaponies have reminded me of all my "ew, what is that?" feelings all over again.


This   :blink:

Post Merge: October 16, 2017, 03:37:16 PM

So here's mine...I don't like Firefly  :(

I really want to like her because, well...she's Firefly, but I can't stand her weird flesh coloured body and blue hair combo.

It's a shame because I have almost all of the early G1s and there's a gaping hole in my collection where Firefly should be but I just can't bring myself to own her.

One solution I have considered is to maybe get a Nirvana version of her (if there is one with a different colour combo or something...) and then that would justify having her...if that makes sense? I've done that with Cherries Jubilee whose body colour I also can't stand. My Nirvana CJ is GREEN and that makes me very happy!!  :biggrin:

I've never liked her much either. Plus she's on a pose I'm not fond of.


There's a green CJ?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on October 16, 2017, 11:17:56 PM
Now the new Seaponies have reminded me of all my "ew, what is that?" feelings all over again.
So here's mine...I don't like Firefly  :(
I've never liked her much either. Plus she's on a pose I'm not fond of.

Oh wow I thought it was just me! I know a lot of folks adore Firefly, but I personally do not see anything significantly striking about her colourings, also her pose is tricky when it comes to ponywear. She is pretty enough, but I too am trying to feel super-impressed by her look, but, nope, I'm not getting the excitement here  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Luxrayx on October 17, 2017, 10:53:10 AM
Toy Firefly isn't my favorite either, but I can look past it because Rescue at Midnight castle is just about my favorite cartoon thing ever. I get the feeling that's how it is for a lot of people ^.^
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 17, 2017, 11:17:35 AM
I don't like most of the Mane Six, as toys and characters, they've long since worn out there welcome.

I don't really care for some of the more popular, well known ponies like CJ, Lickety-split, Surprise, Tex, Truly, G3 Minty, G3 Pinkie Pie, Ivy or Toola-roola.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on October 17, 2017, 11:51:34 AM
Toy Firefly isn't my favorite either, but I can look past it because Rescue at Midnight castle is just about my favorite cartoon thing ever. I get the feeling that's how it is for a lot of people ^.^

My introduction to Firefly was Rescue at Midnight Castle and the book “The Magic Rainbow” I never had Firefly or Baby Firefly in my childhood ponies.

I like petite ponies even though they’re really small. I’m not a big fan of So Soft ponies.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on October 18, 2017, 12:22:10 PM
I don't like Firefly either. Not even Baby Firefly, who is in my favourite baby pose. :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 18, 2017, 12:23:35 PM
Toy Firefly isn't my favorite either, but I can look past it because Rescue at Midnight castle is just about my favorite cartoon thing ever. I get the feeling that's how it is for a lot of people ^.^

My introduction to Firefly was Rescue at Midnight Castle and the book “The Magic Rainbow” I never had Firefly or Baby Firefly in my childhood ponies.

I like petite ponies even though they’re really small. I’m not a big fan of So Soft ponies.

Ponyfan

Petites are super cute! The prices, not so much.


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on October 19, 2017, 07:34:21 AM
I'm not bothered that there are no males in G3. The world of G3 was like the kindergarten version of the all-female island in Wonder Woman comics. I thought it was cute.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on October 19, 2017, 12:37:20 PM
Wow! So I'm definitely not alone when it comes to disliking Firefly...that makes me feel better :)

Yes, there is a green CJ - she's a venny I think (from memory)...

http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/File:VenCherriesJub.jpg

I think she's meant to be blue but mine is definitely green, lol!  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 19, 2017, 12:56:22 PM
Wow! So I'm definitely not alone when it comes to disliking Firefly...that makes me feel better :)

Yes, there is a green CJ - she's a venny I think (from memory)...

http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/File:VenCherriesJub.jpg

I think she's meant to be blue but mine is definitely green, lol!  :lol:


WOW she's gorgeous!!! :frolic:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on October 19, 2017, 01:37:58 PM
Not keen on Rainbowdash in G4, (pony version) too cocky. Always like pranking other ponies, her voice gets on my nerves. Only like her equestrian girls form. Her parents are freaky looking. Wish she wasn't one of the mane six.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on October 19, 2017, 01:47:39 PM
Toy Firefly isn't my favorite either, but I can look past it because Rescue at Midnight castle is just about my favorite cartoon thing ever. I get the feeling that's how it is for a lot of people ^.^

My introduction to Firefly was Rescue at Midnight Castle and the book “The Magic Rainbow” I never had Firefly or Baby Firefly in my childhood ponies.

I like petite ponies even though they’re really small. I’m not a big fan of So Soft ponies.

Ponyfan

Petites are super cute! The prices, not so much.




I agree. :) I can’t bring myself to pay $20 or up for such a small pony.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on October 20, 2017, 04:31:12 AM
I'm not bothered that there are no males in G3. The world of G3 was like the kindergarten version of the all-female island in Wonder Woman comics. I thought it was cute.

Reading this, it's the first time I have realised that there are no males in the G3 line, LOL! How could I have missed that?? Ha ha  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Bebopgroove on October 20, 2017, 07:25:15 AM
I don't watch the g4 tv show.. So I have no idea what the heck is going on xD I mean I've seen a few episodes of I guess "the first season" (before Twilight's wings), but that's been about it.. However if there's ever a bluray collection with all the epis, then I might possibly get it.. And I'd still like to see the new movie, on bluray more than likely (but that could be due to it looking like a traditionally animated film which has me all excited).
Though I did see a page or so of the comic in a google search once, and it did intrigue me quite a bit (it actually looked pretty good!), though I imagine there's probably more depth in the comics than the tv show..
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on October 20, 2017, 09:39:10 AM
I don't watch the g4 tv show.. So I have no idea what the heck is going on xD I mean I've seen a few episodes of I guess "the first season" (before Twilight's wings), but that's been about it.. However if there's ever a bluray collection with all the epis, then I might possibly get it.. And I'd still like to see the new movie, on bluray more than likely (but that could be due to it looking like a traditionally animated film which has me all excited).
Though I did see a page or so of the comic in a google search once, and it did intrigue me quite a bit (it actually looked pretty good!), though I imagine there's probably more depth in the comics than the tv show..

Exact same thing with me - you are not alone, lol  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RavenPaw on October 20, 2017, 09:49:51 AM
I don't pay any attention to the G4 show or any of the cannon information about the characters.  For a long time I hated G4 completely but now it's grown on me and I collect the toys and make up my own imaginary world for them.  I'm into them now but I still have no interest in the show.  I think that's a pretty weird opinion?

I'm not crazy about G1 seaponies, I would prefer "merpony" or hippocampus type ponies, like the new G4 seaponies.

I'm not really into nirvana ponies, I think a lot of them look like knockoffs.  (even though I know they are not!) *dodges fakies thrown at her*

I don't think there are enough male ponies so I make up my own, turning some female ponies into males, in all generations.  (Some examples, Majesty, Skydancer, Skyflier, Masquerade, G2 Sunsparkle, Kimono, G3 Rainbow Dash)

I like that some babies don't match the species of their parents and/or have other differences.  Like some of the TAF babies and some others.  It makes them unique and shows variation.

I like Mimic's shade of green and I want her really bad because I think she's pretty, not because she is rare.

I'm sure I have some other weird opinions but those are what I can think of right now.  XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on October 20, 2017, 11:36:47 AM
I dont mind ponies with buzz cuts, I have a speedy with one , and a slightly broken horn to boot. I will keep them that way. I even have a winger with a haircut, gonna leave her that way.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on October 20, 2017, 12:14:13 PM
I dont mind ponies with buzz cuts, I have a speedy with one , and a slightly broken horn to boot. I will keep them that way. I even have a winger with a haircut, gonna leave her that way.


Yes, I agree, some of the ponies actually look pretty cool with their punky, shortened manes, especially the rainbow-haired ones  :thumb:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on October 20, 2017, 03:04:56 PM

I'm not really into nirvana ponies, I think a lot of them look like knockoffs.  (even though I know they are not!)

I don't think there are enough male ponies so I make up my own, turning some female ponies into males, in all generations. 


I'm totally with you on these two.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on October 21, 2017, 01:55:26 AM
I don't pay any attention to the G4 show or any of the cannon information about the characters.  For a long time I hated G4 completely but now it's grown on me and I collect the toys and make up my own imaginary world for them.  I'm into them now but I still have no interest in the show.  I think that's a pretty weird opinion?


I do watch and enjoy the show, but my G4 ponies also have their own personalities, names and imaginary world to live in which has nothing to do with the show. After all, that's what people did with other generations before it became All About The Show, so why not?
E.g. I have a Rainbow Dash brushable who is a special favourite of mine. Her name is Marcella and she's a caring, occasionally slightly bossy pony who wants to be a nurse. Also my G4 ponies live in the same imaginary world that I made up for my other pony generations.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taxel on October 21, 2017, 12:03:23 PM
I don't think there are enough male ponies so I make up my own, turning some female ponies into males, in all generations.  (Some examples, Majesty, Skydancer, Skyflier, Masquerade, G2 Sunsparkle, Kimono, G3 Rainbow Dash)

This definitely isn't unpopular! Lots of people make up their own characters for their ponies that can include personalities, backstories, giving them families, changing genders, etc.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on October 26, 2017, 10:32:28 AM
I don't pay any attention to the G4 show or any of the cannon information about the characters.  For a long time I hated G4 completely but now it's grown on me and I collect the toys and make up my own imaginary world for them.  I'm into them now but I still have no interest in the show.  I think that's a pretty weird opinion?

Not weird at all! I'm the same way :) Not interested in the show but love the toys.

I like that some babies don't match the species of their parents and/or have other differences.  Like some of the TAF babies and some others.  It makes them unique and shows variation.

This!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Griffin on October 27, 2017, 12:19:14 PM
I like Mimic's shade of green and I want her really bad because I think she's pretty, not because she is rare.

I'm with you on this. :) Well, she isn't exctly on the top of my wantlist, but I think she's one of the prettiest unicorns out there!

I also agree on the non-matching babies and parents - as long as there is some element that connects the designs, I'm happy.

Hmm, what else could I think of... there are some poses I really like which don't seem too popular, such as Mimic's pose and the G3 "donkey" pose.

While Gusty is my favourite pony and sort of an army pony for me, I'm not interested in the Reverse version (whether she's genuine or not). I just think she looks better with green as the main hair colour. :shrug:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 27, 2017, 01:21:18 PM
I third not caring if the babies match the adults. In fact, I often wish the families sold together had more variety to them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on October 27, 2017, 02:09:30 PM
In my childhood collection Baby Palm Tree was Pina Coloda’s baby. Since Baby Palm Tree has wings I pretended that she inherited them from her father, also a pegasus.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 27, 2017, 04:25:46 PM
In my childhood collection Baby Palm Tree was Pina Coloda’s baby. Since Baby Palm Tree has wings I pretended that she inherited them from her father, also a pegasus.


Ponyfan


They'd be adorable!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: alaskaallie on October 28, 2017, 08:50:27 AM
Ooooh I thought of one. I  don't like the dancing butterflies pose like. At all. There is not a single pony in that pose that I want. It just looks awkward to me somehow.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on October 30, 2017, 03:02:33 PM
Ooooh I thought of one. I  don't like the dancing butterflies pose like. At all. There is not a single pony in that pose that I want. It just looks awkward to me somehow.

Lol, I think I read somewhere that this pose is known as the "broken neck pose"... I personally like it but I think there are plenty who don't, judging from that description of it!  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on October 30, 2017, 11:40:26 PM
I don't like the powder pose because it looks like they're pretending to ge giraffes or they look like they're straining something (only one I'll get will be Star Hopper).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on October 31, 2017, 05:13:56 AM
The Powder pose isn't one of my favorites either. I know some people say it looks like the ponies are stargazing but I want my ponies to be able to look at me.  Coco Berry was one of my least favorite childhood ponies because of her pose.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: alaskaallie on October 31, 2017, 06:29:42 AM
Ooooh I thought of one. I  don't like the dancing butterflies pose like. At all. There is not a single pony in that pose that I want. It just looks awkward to me somehow.

Lol, I think I read somewhere that this pose is known as the "broken neck pose"... I personally like it but I think there are plenty who don't, judging from that description of it!  :lol:

Haha ok good to know I'm not crazy... Was looking through the archives for favorite pose threads and there were soooo many people saying how much they loved this pose and how locket, blueberry baskets, etc were their favorite ponies... Like I totally get why people like the pose, it's dynamic and interesting and there are a lot of pretty ponies in it. I just started noticing that there were ponies that I should want based on their colors or look (blueberry baskets, locket, starglow, etc) that were unappealing and came to the conclusion that it must be because of the pose...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 31, 2017, 08:35:32 AM
Ooooh I thought of one. I  don't like the dancing butterflies pose like. At all. There is not a single pony in that pose that I want. It just looks awkward to me somehow.

Lol, I think I read somewhere that this pose is known as the "broken neck pose"... I personally like it but I think there are plenty who don't, judging from that description of it!  :lol:

Nope. That's the G3 Shell-belle pose.

Post Merge: October 31, 2017, 08:38:03 AM

The Powder pose isn't one of my favorites either. I know some people say it looks like the ponies are stargazing but I want my ponies to be able to look at me.  Coco Berry was one of my least favorite childhood ponies because of her pose.


Ponyfan

I do like the pose, but it took some getting used to, The stomach/barrel area is sloped in such a way that it makes her look llike she's standing on a slope. But the rest of her is straight.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khayman81 on October 31, 2017, 11:04:45 AM
Some poses are really odd, like some earth pony poses, bowtie pose is freaky. Dancing butterflies too, and gusty pose also. Besides sometimes it doesn’t match the pony, like Gusty should have been in another unicorn pose.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 31, 2017, 11:28:58 AM
I don't think I hate any poses now, but I have in the past. I don't like the Sundae Best refit moulds though. They look weird somehow. I did used to hate the CJ pose but now I don't. I came to find it kind of sweet in its own way. Although if you line them all up they look like a dance chorus or something...;)

I don't like when people spell Baby Liquorice's name with a c. It's a real bugbear of mine.

I don't like price guides but am always asking for price checks on ponies so I really am a total hypocrite with that one. I feel like price guides affect pony prices and yet...here I am reinforcing the mindset. Sigh.

I also don't like Dream Valley. I have my reasons. I prefer the Wiki.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on October 31, 2017, 02:51:12 PM
I also don't think I really dislike any poses, at least, not enough to make a big impact on if I want a pony or not. I certainly have poses I like more than others, and poses I'm not the biggest on, but a pony being in the pose I'm not the most fond of won't make me not want her. Color combination is generally the biggest factor for me when it comes to wanting ponies.

My favorite pony, Spring Song, is one though where the pose she's in is why I like her so much. The pose combined with the colors and symbol is very pretty!

Another thing, there aren't any ponies I don't want or would ever pass up on. I'm the sort of collector who just kind of wants more ponies. I'll also keep any variations of ponies I already have that I happen to come across (for example I have two G3 Fluttershy's both in her second pose, and I kept them both because one had a darker body color than the other). I do certainly have favorites, but I could never leave a pony I find in the wild behind, unless it's exactly like one I have already. So my answers on every POTD are either want or have. :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 31, 2017, 06:11:33 PM
The only ponies in poses I couldn't get are the Teeny Tinies, Ballerinas and Mimic pose. There isn't a single pony I like in any of them.

I decided to get one 4.5 for Songbird Serenade, because she reminds me of a winged, Norwegian Fjord and I miiiight spring for Collector's pose Lemondrop and Snuzzle. Other then that, if a pony is pretty enough o disguise it, I can live with an awkward or boring pose. i.e Donkey, Moondancer, G4 etc.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: NightGliderSA on November 01, 2017, 01:49:46 AM
This is probably REALLY unpopular; but I am not sure whether I would be able to leave a MIB pony in her box. I want to touch my ponies. And give them spa days. And I just cannot do that to ponies still in their boxes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 01, 2017, 07:51:45 AM
Yeah, same here really.  I'd hate to get an MIB pony, because the temptation would be too great to take them out of their boxes, because I want to see them in full display, at the very least, but I know that it's bad form to do this, as someone who wants an MIB pony could get mine when I'm gone. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on November 01, 2017, 10:13:59 AM
Taffeta, I too did not think much of the CJ pose when she first came out, it was as if they had caught her half-way through going somewhere.
Also, G1 Moondancer, such a pretty pony but ugh I still cannot get used to her pose, something does not sit right with her body proportions, IMO.  :angel:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on November 02, 2017, 03:23:44 AM
If you stop and think about the CJ pose it is quite disturbing, because if straightened out her bent leg would be longer than her other legs....
But then, when has realism ever applied to pastel ponies?

Can't remember if I contributed to this thread already, but for my unpopular opinion, I have to say, I'm not really into plushies. I like plastic ponies. Also, I actually like ponies with gimmicks. Especially if they make a noise. Two of my favourite ponies are my German Sweet Talkin' ponies. Ich hab dich liebe! Kammst du mein Haar? <3
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on November 02, 2017, 05:58:33 AM
Also, I actually like ponies with gimmicks. Especially if they make a noise. Two of my favourite ponies are my German Sweet Talkin' ponies. Ich hab dich liebe! Kammst du mein Haar? <3

I love pony gimmicks! The large amount of gimmicks is one of the reasons G1 is my favorite gen!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: forever_cuddles on November 02, 2017, 06:38:34 AM
Is it just me, or do the Princess Ponies look hilarious to everyone else as well? I crack up laughing every time I see those ridiculous eyelashes. They look like Groucho Marx eyebrows!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on November 02, 2017, 07:26:43 AM
Is it just me, or do the Princess Ponies look hilarious to everyone else as well? I crack up laughing every time I see those ridiculous eyelashes. They look like Groucho Marx eyebrows!

They are crazy  :lol: - I think someone did a thread dedicated to them a few months ago  :)  :think:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on November 02, 2017, 08:08:46 AM
Is it just me, or do the Princess Ponies look hilarious to everyone else as well? I crack up laughing every time I see those ridiculous eyelashes. They look like Groucho Marx eyebrows!

They are hilarious and I love them so much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 02, 2017, 08:43:26 AM
The Eyelash Princesses crack me up.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on November 02, 2017, 08:54:03 AM
Eyelashes princess ponies are freaky looking.

 I hate tinsel in ponies hair as it is hard to brush their hair.

I also hate that the toys didn't follow the tv show. 4-Speed is purple in that not very pale blue as his pony (he looks like a gosht). Or is it the other way round?   :blink:

Honeysuckle is so bossy.

Hated the stop the bats song, because Pinkie, Rarity, Rainbowdash, Applejack, Spike, and Princess Twilight Sparkle. Gang up on Fluttershy, like hello Fluttershy can talk to animals; I think they forgot about that. I was absolutely appalled that Princess Twilight Sparkle would follow Applejack's lead.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on November 02, 2017, 03:50:32 PM
I also hate that the toys didn't follow the tv show. 4-Speed is purple in that not very pale blue as his pony (he looks like a gosht). Or is it the other way round?   :blink:

For me it's the other way around. I don't like the TV show ponies who didn't follow the toys, because the toys came first. Especially Ribbon. I love her electric yellow hair, but I find the throw up yellow green in the show to be rather unpleasant. Minor differences I don't mind though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on November 02, 2017, 04:10:22 PM
The only time I am really picky about the toys looking exactly like they do in the show is when the toys are way off like the pink Celestia toys. That didn't make any sense because she's white in the show but the first toys of her were all pink.

I don't mind differences in G1 between the toys and the show. Most of them are pretty accurate to the corresponding toy except for hair colors,  I think one of the sea ponies in Rescue from Midnight Castle was colored a little differently than the toy. The one that matches Bowtie's colors.


Ponyfan


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on November 03, 2017, 10:58:30 AM
I didn't mind that the G1 toys and cartoon didn't look alike.  Toys rarely looked like their media counterpart.  And sometimes the harder they tried, the worse it looked.  I would love it if G4 toys looked like G1 toys though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khayman81 on November 05, 2017, 04:55:31 AM
The only time I am really picky about the toys looking exactly like they do in the show is when the toys are way off like the pink Celestia toys. That didn't make any sense because she's white in the show but the first toys of her were all pink.

I don't mind differences in G1 between the toys and the show. Most of them are pretty accurate to the corresponding toy except for hair colors,  I think one of the sea ponies in Rescue from Midnight Castle was colored a little differently than the toy. The one that matches Bowtie's colors.


Ponyfan
Fizzy has her hair different in the show as for Whizzer... so l rehaired my toys. I grew up watching the tv show and not the comics so for me the canon should be tv (regarding hair and colors l mean).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on November 06, 2017, 01:40:15 AM
Thought of another one: Equestria Girls is my favourite part of G4! I love the films and short cartoons, and I love the dolls (though I do wish they had less plastic clothing. But then it is quite fun finding new fabric clothes for them, so I don't mind too much).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on November 06, 2017, 04:18:32 AM
Thought of another one: Equestria Girls is my favourite part of G4! I love the films and short cartoons, and I love the dolls (though I do wish they had less plastic clothing. But then it is quite fun finding new fabric clothes for them, so I don't mind too much).
My favorite part too! I love the movies and the minis, and Sunset Shimmer is my favorite character in all of G4 :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sky_Rocket_Sammie on November 06, 2017, 12:34:01 PM
I love the Equestria Girls minis and wish the dolls looked better. Because there is something unsettling about their appearance. Which has lead me to skip the dolls and focus on the minis.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Featherwurm on November 06, 2017, 12:50:19 PM
I hope this isn't too controversial; but for unpopular opinions, I am not comfortable with the legality of Genie, Puppy Luv, and Kitty Luv (etc.).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Priggipopoula on November 07, 2017, 10:13:45 AM
Well here we go:

- I don't like so soft ponies because they accumulate dust
- I'm so sorry for this opinion but...I really HATE chartreuse hair. Is the worst hair color ever for a toy

(Based on this opinions, now you know who is my least favorite pony...)

- Maybe this one can sound weird but actually I don't like baby ponies but im in love with the accesories such as the Baby Buggy and the Lullabye Nursery
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starstrider on November 09, 2017, 01:41:27 AM
I don't understand why Munchy is so popular... I personally cannot understand why they created a pony covered in fast food.  How is that cute or charming?  Does she work at the Ponyland McDonalds?  "Would you like fries with that?"
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Stormness_1 on November 09, 2017, 03:19:45 AM
I really don't like the new hippogriffs/seaponies. I love the movie art style, but the seaponies are a nope from me. Not even a little bit of interest in buying them or anything to do with them. I would rather have pirate accessories for the mane 6. I'D RATHER HAVE MORE MANE 6 THAN SEAPONIES. I can't believe I actually said that, but it's true. Although I'd probably just keep the pirate accessories (provided they weren't moulded plastic) and move the ponies along, as I'm not a fan of the reboot.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 09, 2017, 10:07:59 AM
I don't like the hyppogriffs either. They don't look anything like a hyppogriff. What's next Hasbroken? A manticore that looks like a pony?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on November 09, 2017, 02:18:55 PM
A manticore that looks like a pony?

I would welcome anything in G4 that looks like a pony :P

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 11, 2017, 07:13:07 AM
A manticore that looks like a pony?

I would welcome anything in G4 that looks like a pony :P

I'd welcome a pony that actually looks like a pony again.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on November 12, 2017, 06:17:06 AM
I prefer the EQG dolls to the minis :B Can't stand the minis, haha.

I hope this isn't too controversial; but for unpopular opinions, I am not comfortable with the legality of Genie, Puppy Luv, and Kitty Luv (etc.).

I'm glad it's not just me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 19, 2017, 10:10:06 AM
I wanted boys with proper hair, but now that Hasbro's making them, they're in the hideous reboot pose. And they all have roached manes, which I thoroughly despise.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 20, 2017, 04:38:00 AM
The only time I am really picky about the toys looking exactly like they do in the show is when the toys are way off like the pink Celestia toys. That didn't make any sense because she's white in the show but the first toys of her were all pink.

I don't mind differences in G1 between the toys and the show. Most of them are pretty accurate to the corresponding toy except for hair colors,  I think one of the sea ponies in Rescue from Midnight Castle was colored a little differently than the toy. The one that matches Bowtie's colors.


Ponyfan
Fizzy has her hair different in the show as for Whizzer... so l rehaired my toys. I grew up watching the tv show and not the comics so for me the canon should be tv (regarding hair and colors l mean).

For me the canon is the backcard story as it comes with the toy, but the comics/tv shows sometimes follow them and sometimes don't...

I think the idea of show accuracy is a modern concept because of G4. For that reason I dislike it (that's my unpopular opinion). Ponies don't have to match the show or the comic. It is a bit of a problem if they don't match their own backcards, though (as happens at times in the UK >.>)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 20, 2017, 06:39:52 AM
Well, with G4 the toys and show are based on the same design art (instead of the animators' interpretations of the toys). Celestia was designed as white, but the big retail chains initially insisted on her toys being pink before they'd stock her because according to their Marketer Logic (which is different from real logic) girls' toys like that need to be pink to sell well. Marketer Logic like that is also why her title is Princess.

I don't really have anything unpopular to contribute myself here, unless "I like BBE babies and tinsel" counts.

I have several things that would be unpopular on brony forums, though. And that's one of several reasons I don't bother with those.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on November 21, 2017, 02:11:45 PM
I agree with Taffeta on show accurate toys. Even if the hair colors were different on the animated versions you still knew it was Fizzy Whizzer or Sewinkle. 

The only time show accurate toys bothered me was with the early pink Celestia toys when she was clearly white. 


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 22, 2017, 05:05:00 AM
For me it's if it's a drastic change, regardless of what came first.  I tend to know the show's version first, even though I know that most fans focus on the toyline first, but I don't follow the G4 toys much.  I look at things like Friendship Castle and the toy looks nothing like the show's version, which is strange, because the show version looks like it would make a beautiful toy.

It is even stranger that the people who hated the castle said it was just a ploy to sell toys, because even if it was, they made the toy look like a new thing anyway, so what exactly were they advertising in the show?  Paradise Estate was thrown into G1 in a rather "check this new thing out" kind of way, but at least the toy and the show version look like the same thing.  I'm sure there's differences, but you can tell what you're getting.

I know that most people here start with the toys, especially in pre-G4, but I'm sure there are kids who were fans of the G4 cartoon first, so some of them are going to expect one thing, and get another.

G4 in general seemed to be the worse for show accuracy, in my opinion.  Not only did the Pink Celestia happen, but some of the early non-royal ponies looked very little like the animated version - in fact, they looked like deer.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 22, 2017, 05:41:20 AM
G4's art design is partly to blame with accuracy issues on the ponies. The standard head of non-royal ponies is heavily stylized with a huge eye section and a very stubby muzzle, even moreso than G3.5. I personally think they did an alright job capturing the shape with the headsculpt, but the printing could be off early on. And then there's the fact that G4's animation, especially on the first couple seasons, is really guilty of cheated angle - a toy, since it's an actual physical object, can't duplicate that. As for stuff like the castle, there's obviously some kind of disconnect in the art and design departments. Possibly beta designs being used (that pops up a lot with Transformers), or maybe a complete lack of communication. I guess maybe it's a risk of the concurrent design process for animation and toys, where the art department creates a design and then the animators and toy designers start at the same time from that - revisions and redesigns can fail to get passed along, or the toy designers might be given incomplete information. G1 worked differently - the toy designers would develop a toy, and then the animators would look at that toy and create an artistic interpretation of it for the show.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 22, 2017, 06:16:42 AM
In older generations animation was done from the toys and so it was generally done from prototypes. I have no idea with G4 whether there was anything like that involved or if they tried to make a castle based on the animation, but I suspect that the reason there are differences relates to initial sketches or prototypes of products as the TV series is still, essentially, product placement for Hasbro, just with a slightly different weight of focus in their publicity campaign. Hasbro still ultimately want to sell toys.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 22, 2017, 09:28:41 AM
In fairness to the toys, the Friendship Rainbow Kingdom actually does resemble the non-tree part of the castle. The tower roofs, fences, and gate match up with what's seen on the show version, though of course liberties were taken with color and also with adding the slide for more play value.

My image searching for pics of that also turned up images of a "Twilight's Kingdom" playset that's a bit more compressed so as to incorporate the tree section, and is somehat closer to the show color scheme.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 24, 2017, 09:33:15 PM
I don't like Honeysuckle, Lily, Wingsong and Cloud Puff. I wish they'd made more Flutters on the Wingsong and Cloud Puff poses.

I love chartruese and I think its factory name, Electric Banana is hilarious!


I like the Sweet Talkin Ponies.

I'd rather have JUST  the Soda Sippin's accessories. Though if I had to have the ponies, I'd be super evil and pay someone to fill in and paint their ridiculous, upper lip holes.

As I have slowly been exposed to Moomins, I realize that Friendly and Eager's mould, kinda-sorta reminds me of the claymation version of the Groke, only more cheerful-like. Plus, I'd switch out a bushwoolie or two and stick the princess with a mould I like more.



Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 29, 2017, 04:58:31 AM
Lets not forget that the g1 animation committed some shocking faux pas over playsets, including how baby Cuddles entered Lullabye nursery but ended up in Paradise Estate (or vice versa) so animators are not always reliable for rhat product representation.

If we are talking flutter poses, I don,t like the Cloud Puff pose. I feel like she has mumps. I am pretty sure that pose put me off buying Wind Drifter and onto buying Tropi as a child.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on November 29, 2017, 06:45:06 AM
Lets not forget that the g1 animation committed some shocking faux pas over playsets, including how baby Cuddles entered Lullabye nursery but ended up in Paradise Estate (or vice versa) so animators are not always reliable for rhat product representation.

I've never noticed that before and now I want to rewatch the whole series to try and find it..
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on November 29, 2017, 09:40:52 AM
Lets not forget that the g1 animation committed some shocking faux pas over playsets, including how baby Cuddles entered Lullabye nursery but ended up in Paradise Estate (or vice versa) so animators are not always reliable for rhat product representation.

I've never noticed that before and now I want to rewatch the whole series to try and find it..


I found it. I had to screenshot part of the scene. :) It's from Revolt of Paradise Estate

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Baby Cuddles sees the window on the side of the Lullabye Nursery

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Baby Cuddles gets in Lullabye Nursery's basement


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Baby Cuddles is in Paradise Estate Maybe there was a secret passage way?  :lol:


I'm not a big fan of Sweet Scoops. She's pretty, but she's very similar to Sundae Best Sherbet. They could be twin sisters.

Ponyfan


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 29, 2017, 05:52:25 PM
Cookies to Ponyfan ;) . As a child I had 2 VHS tapes with MLP on, the one I watched most was that one and Ice Cream Wars and Revolt of PE was my favourite (and inspired my deep love of Paradise no doubt). And that random merging of buildings always confused me xD.

See, I love Sweet Scoops but not so much Sorbet Surprise (UK name). I like Sweet Scoops' pose and her symbols remind me of a scratch and sniff book I had as a kid with a scented ice cream at the end ;) I genuinely don't care for her current price value now, though. I only have her and her charm thanks to an amazing pony friend...her price is silly considering how similar the colours are between those two ponies.

(She is classier than Rapunzel though. My unpopular probably more popular opinion that has almost certainly been said earlier in the thread)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on November 30, 2017, 07:12:21 AM
Lets not forget that the g1 animation committed some shocking faux pas over playsets, including how baby Cuddles entered Lullabye nursery but ended up in Paradise Estate (or vice versa) so animators are not always reliable for rhat product representation.

I've never noticed that before and now I want to rewatch the whole series to try and find it..


I found it. I had to screenshot part of the scene. :) It's from Revolt of Paradise Estate

[pics]

Ah, thanks for the pics! I'd never have noticed this, y'all have sharper eyes than me XD

(She is classier than Rapunzel though. My unpopular probably more popular opinion that has almost certainly been said earlier in the thread)

I'm with you on this one. Rapunzel's impressive, I guess (that hair!), but I can't say she appeals to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on December 02, 2017, 08:20:46 AM
If we are talking flutter poses, I don,t like the Cloud Puff pose. I feel like she has mumps.

Haha, so true. XD Still love the pose though.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pierlala on December 02, 2017, 09:51:40 AM
All Flutters look like they have mumps
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on December 02, 2017, 10:18:42 AM
Yes, when you strip away the wings and hair, the Flutters do look a little strange  :lol:

I think it is the whole combo that brings them to life - just think how lovely your otherwise-wingless Flutters look once you make them a pair of custom wings!  :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 02, 2017, 10:22:00 AM
I like making cross-gen families.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 02, 2017, 10:33:45 AM
All Flutters look like they have mumps

Hrm, not so much. Though I accept you might have a point with the walking pose ones...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 02, 2017, 03:41:45 PM
Well, judging by a bunch of comments I've seen here, I guess maybe "I really like the Honeysuckle pose and think it looks the most elegant of the Flutter poses" might be an unpopular opinion
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 03, 2017, 01:37:35 AM
Well, judging by a bunch of comments I've seen here, I guess maybe "I really like the Honeysuckle pose and think it looks the most elegant of the Flutter poses" might be an unpopular opinion

Haha xD Sorry ;) I actually really like the pose as well. I just never thought about it being mumpish until Pierlala commented...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on December 03, 2017, 07:00:53 AM



I had fun trying to find the scene and taking the screenshots. :) I found another strange animation choice in Ghost of Paradise Estate.

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I guess for me having two ponies with the same body color, hair color and symbols related to ice cream is what makes me not like Sweet Scoops as much as Sherbet although I do love the Shy/Bowtie pose  and Sweet Scoops symbol more than Sherbet's.  Maybe it's  because I got Sherbet first from a friend. I would look through the mail order pamphlets and dream about owning the ponies in them. I never sent away for the mail orders though.

On the subject of flutter ponies, I didn't know that some people dislike the alternate head (big eyes?) flutter ponies. Honeysuckle is one of my childhood ponies and when I found her in a box and posted pictures one of the first comments I got was that I had a big head/big eyes) alternate flutter.


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 03, 2017, 07:24:44 AM



I had fun trying to find the scene and taking the screenshots. :) I found another strange animation choice in Ghost of Paradise Estate.

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Ponyfan

Because windows are overrated? Or all the ponies are now vampires? Or did someone tell them that that pale pink hair can fade and Posey and Lickety Split went on strike unless the windows were removed?

...I am off topic.



Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lilja on December 03, 2017, 09:38:24 AM



I had fun trying to find the scene and taking the screenshots. :) I found another strange animation choice in Ghost of Paradise Estate.

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I think maybe this is not the same building as the Lullabye Nursery? Maybe. The original nursery was next to Dream Castle, and we see this pink building next to Paradise Estate. Perhaps the ponies built a new nursery next to PE after they moved there? This pink nursery kind of looks like an extension of PE with the colors and the door. We see them working on its interior in "The Ghost of Paradise Estate", and the baby ponies are sleeping at the estate, possibly because the new nursery is not ready to move into yet?

But, we also see the original Lullabye Nursery again in later episodes ("The Revolt of Paradise Estate" among them), so... I don't really know. Either way you turn it, it doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on December 03, 2017, 07:43:38 PM



I had fun trying to find the scene and taking the screenshots. :) I found another strange animation choice in Ghost of Paradise Estate.

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I think maybe this is not the same building as the Lullabye Nursery? Maybe. The original nursery was next to Dream Castle, and we see this pink building next to Paradise Estate. Perhaps the ponies built a new nursery next to PE after they moved there? This pink nursery kind of looks like an extension of PE with the colors and the door. We see them working on its interior in "The Ghost of Paradise Estate", and the baby ponies are sleeping at the estate, possibly because the new nursery is not ready to move into yet?

But, we also see the original Lullabye Nursery again in later episodes ("The Revolt of Paradise Estate" among them), so... I don't really know. Either way you turn it, it doesn't make sense.

It never made sense to me that the adults slept in the castle and the babies were banished to a separate building to fend for themselves.  How did they not get kidnapped more often?  And what was with the episodes where the first tooth babies were responsible for the newborns?  I liked the idea of the nursery but I think the use of it in the cartoons made the adults look really irresponsible.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: achab1984 on December 03, 2017, 08:05:58 PM
Rapunzel is not bad but I would never spent what she is going for! I would have to find one super cheap to get her. And we all know that will NEVER happen!

Those BBE baby ponies! I could of got them all for .99 cents each but could not do it. They just don't do it for me. :(

Sea Ponies are another one I just have never really got into. I have one for sale right now in my collection.

Never cared for the G2 ponies from day one. I have never had one in person though in my collection. I just cant fall for them.

I loved when the G3 ponies first came out! There were some that I just could not get into though. Some of those 3D ponies turned me off. When the core seven came out I was done! :(

The same goes for the G3.5 ponies. I cant get into those either! Sorry Hasbro but the G4 ponies have lost me forever! I might have four in my collection but I don't think I can do anymore.
 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on December 04, 2017, 03:40:32 AM


It never made sense to me that the adults slept in the castle and the babies were banished to a separate building to fend for themselves.  How did they not get kidnapped more often?  And what was with the episodes where the first tooth babies were responsible for the newborns?  I liked the idea of the nursery but I think the use of it in the cartoons made the adults look really irresponsible.
 


Come to think of it, leaving the babies alone so much in the nursery doesn't seem like such a good idea unless it's protected by magic somehow?  Maybe an adult pony stayed in the nursery with them at night?
I never understood why the cartoons decided to make Baby Quackers quack like duck after every sentence. None of the other babies do this but I always find it annoying.

Ponyfan

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 04, 2017, 03:43:05 AM



I had fun trying to find the scene and taking the screenshots. :) I found another strange animation choice in Ghost of Paradise Estate.

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I think maybe this is not the same building as the Lullabye Nursery? Maybe. The original nursery was next to Dream Castle, and we see this pink building next to Paradise Estate. Perhaps the ponies built a new nursery next to PE after they moved there? This pink nursery kind of looks like an extension of PE with the colors and the door. We see them working on its interior in "The Ghost of Paradise Estate", and the baby ponies are sleeping at the estate, possibly because the new nursery is not ready to move into yet?

But, we also see the original Lullabye Nursery again in later episodes ("The Revolt of Paradise Estate" among them), so... I don't really know. Either way you turn it, it doesn't make sense.

It never made sense to me that the adults slept in the castle and the babies were banished to a separate building to fend for themselves.  How did they not get kidnapped more often?  And what was with the episodes where the first tooth babies were responsible for the newborns?  I liked the idea of the nursery but I think the use of it in the cartoons made the adults look really irresponsible.

That's why UK ponylore makes much more sense than anything in the animation (I can say that here, it's the Unpopular Opinions thread!) I think most of what happens in the animation is cute but ultimately if you take it apart to grass roots level a lot of it doesn't make sense, like the above. No wonder the poor twins get abducted and turned into pets.

In the UK there was a designated ponyland babysitter/nurse pony to take care of the babies. The first ponyland nurse was Cotton Candy, but the first I remember being really involved with the baby ponies as well as with medical stuff was Gusty, then Lollipop (Sweet Tooth). Later Caramel Crunch did a lot of that kind of stuff as well. Also the adult ponies often taught the baby ponies things or were involved in things. I've flicked through my comic issues and there's one cover of Masquerade taking the newborn twins out, one of Caramel Crunch and Sand Digger helping newborn ponies decorate a Christmas tree, etc. I also remember a story about the baby first tooth ponies and they're arguing and causing problems...I think it is the Slitherwigs and Ladders story..? I remember Chief and a couple of other adults dragged into it trying to solve the baby ponies' crisis and teach them to work together or something along those lines...

Ok, so the comic didn't always make sense but at least it had a form of baby pony childcare, education and mentoring that the animation really didn't have...(unless you count Megan lying to the baby ponies to trick them into going to bed?)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on December 04, 2017, 04:56:48 AM
Every time I find out something new about the UK pony lore, I like it even more. :) 

In the cartoon at times it seems like the adults let the babies wander around on their own until something bad happens to them and then they must rescue them What was Megan thinking when she let 3 baby ponies go backstage to meet Bright Lights and Zeb alone?


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lilja on December 04, 2017, 08:16:28 AM
In the UK there was a designated ponyland babysitter/nurse pony to take care of the babies. The first ponyland nurse was Cotton Candy, but the first I remember being really involved with the baby ponies as well as with medical stuff was Gusty, then Lollipop (Sweet Tooth). Later Caramel Crunch did a lot of that kind of stuff as well. Also the adult ponies often taught the baby ponies things or were involved in things. I've flicked through my comic issues and there's one cover of Masquerade taking the newborn twins out, one of Caramel Crunch and Sand Digger helping newborn ponies decorate a Christmas tree, etc. I also remember a story about the baby first tooth ponies and they're arguing and causing problems...I think it is the Slitherwigs and Ladders story..? I remember Chief and a couple of other adults dragged into it trying to solve the baby ponies' crisis and teach them to work together or something along those lines...

Ok, so the comic didn't always make sense but at least it had a form of baby pony childcare, education and mentoring that the animation really didn't have...(unless you count Megan lying to the baby ponies to trick them into going to bed?)

It seems kind of implied in "Escape From Catrina" that Posey acts as a caretaker for the baby ponies (with Megan taking over the role on her visit), but like pretty much everything else on the show it's super vague. It's like the writers go out of their way to not address things, just so they can make up whatever they need to later.

But yeah, as for unpopular opinions, I do agree that the original G1 show is generally a mess with very little artistic merit. But I still have lots of nostalgia for it, and if I'm in the mood for it, it can be entertaining for what it is. I read some of the UK comic as a child and again as an adult, but not much of it has stuck with me. That could be in part due to the huge amount of stories and characters to keep track of. For sure it had more effort put into the characterization and world building than the cartoon did. Maybe I'll try to immerse myself in it again at some point in the future.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 04, 2017, 08:23:32 AM
Every time I find out something new about the UK pony lore, I like it even more. :) 

In the cartoon at times it seems like the adults let the babies wander around on their own until something bad happens to them and then they must rescue them What was Megan thinking when she let 3 baby ponies go backstage to meet Bright Lights and Zeb alone?


Ponyfan

Different time period. It was okay to let kids wander a little. I used to roam my neighborhood and grocery store in elementary. In 5th and 6th grade I would walk to my best friend's house as long as I had permission. We would also walk home from school together sometimes when our folks couldn't pick us up. But at that age no, Megan TOTALLY dropped the ball.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 04, 2017, 08:53:40 AM
I used to go with a friend walking his dog through the village where I went to school when I was about ten. I can't navigate, but fortunately he could, and his dogs were so well behaved even I wasn't scared of them. But that was a small village...pretty sure Mum wouldn't have let me wander on my own in a bigger area. (Or maybe just because I got lost). As for ponyland, you'd think they'd get a clue from all the bad things that happened to baby ponies when they weren't being watched...

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on December 05, 2017, 09:09:50 AM
I enjoy the cartoons but sometimes it seems like the ponies are easy targets for anyone wanting to try to take over. The villains always start with the ponies and usually manage to capture at least one of them.

Ponyfan



Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starryeyed on December 06, 2017, 01:55:11 PM
I dont actively collect g4 because i feel the fact that most toys are based around only 6 characters is not fun! I prefer older gens because they're just so much more collectible you know?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on December 06, 2017, 02:37:16 PM
I don't like the bubbles pose, as to me it looks like they should be glued onto wood to make bookends
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on December 06, 2017, 05:40:56 PM
I love neon yellow hair :blush:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on December 06, 2017, 07:15:47 PM
I love neon yellow hair :blush:

Same here! I wish its color didn't bleed onto other things, but I really like the color itself! I love bright ponies!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 06, 2017, 07:28:33 PM
I love neon yellow hair :blush:

Me too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 07, 2017, 05:00:32 AM
I love neon yellow hair :blush:

Me too.

And me! So believed Shady's hair glowed in the dark when I was a kid because it was so bright!!

I guess this is a more popular opinion than anyone thought ;)

I also don't much like the sitting pose. I would have rather had Bubbles and Seashell standing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pierlala on December 07, 2017, 08:56:10 AM
I don't care for Nirvana ponies that much. But I do enjoy seeing them in other people's collections. Most Nirvanas I have are Italy ones which I have not deliberatly collected because they are "Nirvana". But mostly because Italy ponirs are so easy to get in the Netherlands. And I never paid much attenrion to which country ponies were coming from. If I happen to have a Italy pony. I don't usually feel the need to have the Hong Kong or China version and vice versa.

I would never spend hundereds of euros on a Nirvana. They just feel a bit off to me as to me it is just one of many different versions of one specific pony. Feels a bit like a waste.

Also, my favorite G1s are Posey, Kiss Curl and Tootsie. They are underestimated yet awesome. I have a small Posey army. :blush:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on December 07, 2017, 10:15:54 AM
I love neon yellow hair :blush:

Me too! It's actually one of my favourites. :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 07, 2017, 11:00:13 AM
This one is probably really controversial and I don't mean offense to anyone who uses the term but, I hate the term pony cancer. I think its kinda, I dunno, wrong to use that word when so many have suffered or lost to it. Either directly or by proxy of a loved one.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on December 07, 2017, 03:24:17 PM
This one is probably really controversial and I don't mean offense to anyone who uses the term but, I hate the term pony cancer. I think its kinda, I dunno, wrong to use that word when so many have suffered or lost to it. Either directly or by proxy of a loved one.

I agree with this.

Also I don't like the sitting pose.

I can't remember if I put this in this thread, but I prefer simple ponies over ones with gimmicks.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on December 07, 2017, 03:34:31 PM
I like the Soda Sippin ponies and their ice cream floats.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 07, 2017, 04:18:49 PM
I like the Soda Sippin ponies and their ice cream floats.



Ponyfan

They are gorgeous girls and their accessories are really fun.  But I guess Hasbro forgot what mouths were.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on December 07, 2017, 05:45:56 PM
This one is probably really controversial and I don't mean offense to anyone who uses the term but, I hate the term pony cancer. I think its kinda, I dunno, wrong to use that word when so many have suffered or lost to it. Either directly or by proxy of a loved one.
I agree. I remember reading somewhere that on eBay, a buyer messaged a seller "does she have cancer" or something along the lines of that, and the seller was very hurt and shocked because she had a loved one die from actual cancer :( I feel like it is insensitive.
I like the Soda Sippin ponies and their ice cream floats.



Ponyfan
Me too! I love their color schemes!

I'm surprised at how many people like neon yellow hair, I thought everyone hated it, haha :biggrin: I'm glad people like it :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 09, 2017, 01:11:57 AM
This one is probably really controversial and I don't mean offense to anyone who uses the term but, I hate the term pony cancer. I think its kinda, I dunno, wrong to use that word when so many have suffered or lost to it. Either directly or by proxy of a loved one.

I agree with this.

Also I don't like the sitting pose.

I can't remember if I put this in this thread, but I prefer simple ponies over ones with gimmicks.

I agree with LAW's comment and the above comments about simple ponies over gimmicks. Rainbow and TE level gimmicks though I am fine with, just I like the old school ponies better.

I also dislike the use of pony cancer. I dislike most of the terms we use for flaws because frankly they don't make sense to me and never have, I have no idea what inspired half of them. But a lot of people in my familiy have been affected by cancer. It's not an appropriate term for a plastic toy. Unfortunately just saying that won't change anything, because people have been objecting to its use for years, but it still gets used...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on December 09, 2017, 06:11:03 AM
Also, my favorite G1s are Posey, Kiss Curl and Tootsie. They are underestimated yet awesome. I have a small Posey army. :blush:

Posey is so pretty, I agree that she is so underrated!
Good old Tootsie, love her colours, it would have been great to see her in another pose, though!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on December 09, 2017, 03:45:10 PM
I prefer Cascade and her green waterfall to Sprinkles and her white one. Cascade is one of my very favourite ponies and I think she is tremendously underrated/forgotten about.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 09, 2017, 03:59:07 PM
This one is probably really controversial and I don't mean offense to anyone who uses the term but, I hate the term pony cancer. I think its kinda, I dunno, wrong to use that word when so many have suffered or lost to it. Either directly or by proxy of a loved one.

I agree with this.

Also I don't like the sitting pose.

I can't remember if I put this in this thread, but I prefer simple ponies over ones with gimmicks.

I agree with LAW's comment and the above comments about simple ponies over gimmicks. Rainbow and TE level gimmicks though I am fine with, just I like the old school ponies better.

I also dislike the use of pony cancer. I dislike most of the terms we use for flaws because frankly they don't make sense to me and never have, I have no idea what inspired half of them. But a lot of people in my familiy have been affected by cancer. It's not an appropriate term for a plastic toy. Unfortunately just saying that won't change anything, because people have been objecting to its use for years, but it still gets used...

 :( :hug:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 09, 2017, 03:59:33 PM
I prefer Cascade and her green waterfall to Sprinkles and her white one. Cascade is one of my very favourite ponies and I think she is tremendously underrated/forgotten about.

Me too. I wish we'd gotten Cascade.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SkyCakes on December 09, 2017, 04:19:23 PM
I prefer Cascade and her green waterfall to Sprinkles and her white one. Cascade is one of my very favourite ponies and I think she is tremendously underrated/forgotten about.

Me too. I wish we'd gotten Cascade.

ditto, I never can find her sometimes shes so hard to find. I think shes pretty. Maybe someday I shall get her. Until then I just gaze at her beauty. Not that I like sprinkles but Cascade is just so different.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 09, 2017, 05:25:21 PM
I prefer Cascade and her green waterfall to Sprinkles and her white one. Cascade is one of my very favourite ponies and I think she is tremendously underrated/forgotten about.

Me too. I wish we'd gotten Cascade.

ditto, I never can find her sometimes shes so hard to find. I think shes pretty. Maybe someday I shall get her. Until then I just gaze at her beauty. Not that I like sprinkles but Cascade is just so different.

We had both but Sprinkles is a lot more common here than Cascade. :/ I don't really know why that is. It seems like they both went on sale around the same time, but I suppose we must have had more Sprinkles sets than Cascade ones...

Sprinkles was in the comics a far bit. Cascade is in one annual but never in the comics :/

I also like Cascade more :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on December 09, 2017, 06:31:49 PM
*  :throw: gets ready to dodge fakies* I used to use the term "pony cancer" before I realized it was offensive to people and have since stopped using it.

Add me to the group that likes Cascade better than Sprinkles.  :)


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lockette on December 09, 2017, 06:50:16 PM
- I don't like Sprinkles at ALL, she always looked like a faded Firefly to me.
- also I hate the Firefly pose.
- most of the G3 ponies after the head-turn change look awful. I've passed on ponies whose design I loved but she looked too much like a camel (RIP Daffidazey).
- G3 Chocolate Chipper seems beloved (at least on tumblr?) but I hate her! she's so generic pink-and-purple with the design being an afterthought slapped on there. I wish she had some yellows, creams, dark reds or navys, maybe brown??? worked into her design, ughh.
- if there's a nirvana pony I want, I would never be happy with a custom of her.
- I can't watch the G1 cartoon as an adult, it just has zero artistic merit and even nostalgia isn't enough to make it enjoyable for me. I think "Rescue at Midnight Castle" is pretty enjoyable for a children's 80s cartoon, it's a good sick day movie.
- don't like the G4 toy line! MLP has always been dozens and dozens of unique pony "characters" to collect, and releasing the same characters over and over isn't why I like collecting MLP. it also feels cheaply-made (that hair!).
- I just loathe FiM Pinkie Pie.

aaah that felt good to get out.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on December 09, 2017, 07:57:47 PM
*  :throw:gets ready to dodge fakies* I used to use the term "pony cancer" before I realized it was offensive to people and have since stopped using it.

Add me to the group that likes Cascade better than Sprinkles.  :)

^^ me too, for both comments! Hmm but what new term could we use to describe those specific brown dots?

Ah, Cascade, my surprise Christmas present one year, I never knew she/playset existed until then! I have the playset still, but Cascade is awol... I have since got a couple of replacements though  :) Yes I agree that Sprinkles does remind me of a faded Firefly!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on December 09, 2017, 08:12:46 PM
*  :throw:gets ready to dodge fakies* I used to use the term "pony cancer" before I realized it was offensive to people and have since stopped using it.

Add me to the group that likes Cascade better than Sprinkles.  :)

^^ me too, for both comments! Hmm but what new term could we use to describe those specific brown dots?

We already have one, "age spots".
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on December 10, 2017, 06:44:27 AM
I think Sprinkles would have been much prettier in blue like the prototype we saw in the commercial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuWQQTPtiUo


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on December 10, 2017, 07:13:33 AM
I think Sprinkles would have been much prettier in blue like the prototype we saw in the commercial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuWQQTPtiUo


Ponyfan

That would have been very lovey, at least if her symbol was a different color.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on December 10, 2017, 07:58:44 AM
I would have loved a deep blue Sprinkles. I wonder why they decided to change her color last minute, as she was already blue on the box and other merchandise like magnets and school supplies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 10, 2017, 08:08:49 AM
She would have been soo pretty in blue.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on December 10, 2017, 10:48:01 AM
What a pity - she looks gorgeous in that pretty blue!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Stormness_1 on December 10, 2017, 11:46:17 AM
I too prefer Cascade - I always thought that must have been uncommon, because when I got about 8th in the Arena Derby and she was my no. 1 choice for a prize, I never in a million years thought it would be her landing in my letterbox, but it was! I couldn't believe that no-one else of those 8 people had chosen Cascade!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: poniesthatsparkle on December 11, 2017, 12:10:50 PM
I actually like the term "cutie mark." I still use "symbol" when talking about G1 and G2.

I also really love the new seaponies and hippogriffs. I've been wanting G4 to have more variety in species and getting two new species was a big surprise. I just wish the hippogriffs had cutie marks. They are half-pony, aren't they?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on December 11, 2017, 03:01:31 PM
I wish the new not-ponies had symbols, too! The sea ponies being blank doesn't bother me, since G1 sea ponies didn't have symbols either (yeah, I know about the ones w/ necklaces, but still), but I really don't understand why the Breezies/hippogriffs don't have symbols.. another problem I have with the "cutie mark" ~lore~ - it excludes non-ponies! :P They just don't look like they're part of the MLP line without symbols, to me.. If that makes sense.

(what I find really weird is that despite all this, Zecora has a symbol, even though she's a zebra and it seems that in G4, only ponies have symbols.. :s weird. I mean, I LIKE that she has one, but it just seems like an odd exception. I guess perhaps they hadn't figured out the 'rules' at the time, or something? Still weird, though.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nilenna on December 13, 2017, 07:08:22 AM
I like this thread... but don't have any answers right now... I'll probably come back to it later.  :silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 13, 2017, 09:01:58 AM
I wish the new not-ponies had symbols, too! The sea ponies being blank doesn't bother me, since G1 sea ponies didn't have symbols either (yeah, I know about the ones w/ necklaces, but still), but I really don't understand why the Breezies/hippogriffs don't have symbols.. another problem I have with the "cutie mark" ~lore~ - it excludes non-ponies! :P They just don't look like they're part of the MLP line without symbols, to me.. If that makes sense.

(what I find really weird is that despite all this, Zecora has a symbol, even though she's a zebra and it seems that in G4, only ponies have symbols.. :s weird. I mean, I LIKE that she has one, but it just seems like an odd exception. I guess perhaps they hadn't figured out the 'rules' at the time, or something? Still weird, though.)

It would have been a nice nod to the Pony Friends and Pretty Pals
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on December 13, 2017, 09:52:02 AM

(what I find really weird is that despite all this, Zecora has a symbol, even though she's a zebra and it seems that in G4, only ponies have symbols.. :s weird. I mean, I LIKE that she has one, but it just seems like an odd exception. I guess perhaps they hadn't figured out the 'rules' at the time, or something? Still weird, though.)
I know it's listed as a cutie mark in the wiki, but has anyone actually officially stated that this is what Zecora's symbol is?  I've always kind of viewed it as something else.  I don't know what, but I always thought it was meant to be something else entirely.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on December 13, 2017, 12:18:32 PM

(what I find really weird is that despite all this, Zecora has a symbol, even though she's a zebra and it seems that in G4, only ponies have symbols.. :s weird. I mean, I LIKE that she has one, but it just seems like an odd exception. I guess perhaps they hadn't figured out the 'rules' at the time, or something? Still weird, though.)
I know it's listed as a cutie mark in the wiki, but has anyone actually officially stated that this is what Zecora's symbol is?  I've always kind of viewed it as something else.  I don't know what, but I always thought it was meant to be something else entirely.

I always figured it just was her "stripe pattern" because zebras each have their own pattern of stripes, kind of like fingerprints.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 13, 2017, 12:32:18 PM

(what I find really weird is that despite all this, Zecora has a symbol, even though she's a zebra and it seems that in G4, only ponies have symbols.. :s weird. I mean, I LIKE that she has one, but it just seems like an odd exception. I guess perhaps they hadn't figured out the 'rules' at the time, or something? Still weird, though.)
I know it's listed as a cutie mark in the wiki, but has anyone actually officially stated that this is what Zecora's symbol is?  I've always kind of viewed it as something else.  I don't know what, but I always thought it was meant to be something else entirely.

I always figured it just was her "stripe pattern" because zebras each have their own pattern of stripes, kind of like fingerprints.

It's a swirling sun with triangles.  :blink: Maybe its tribal paint or tattoo?

My unpopular opinion is that I don't think its automatically racially insensitive, for certain animals to be from certain areas in the world. Because you know, its not like zebras occur naturally in New York, or buffalo roam the streets of London.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RavenPaw on December 14, 2017, 11:38:43 PM
I also really love the new seaponies and hippogriffs. I've been wanting G4 to have more variety in species and getting two new species was a big surprise. I just wish the hippogriffs had cutie marks. They are half-pony, aren't they?

I'm crazy about the G4 sea ponies and hippogriffs too.  I love them, but I also wish they had symbols.  I can see how it would be hard to give sea ponies symbols given their body shape, but the hippogriffs at least should have symbols.

- I don't like Sprinkles at ALL, she always looked like a faded Firefly to me.
- also I hate the Firefly pose.
- most of the G3 ponies after the head-turn change look awful. I've passed on ponies whose design I loved but she looked too much like a camel (RIP Daffidazey).
- G3 Chocolate Chipper seems beloved (at least on tumblr?) but I hate her! she's so generic pink-and-purple with the design being an afterthought slapped on there. I wish she had some yellows, creams, dark reds or navys, maybe brown??? worked into her design, ughh.
- if there's a nirvana pony I want, I would never be happy with a custom of her.
- I can't watch the G1 cartoon as an adult, it just has zero artistic merit and even nostalgia isn't enough to make it enjoyable for me. I think "Rescue at Midnight Castle" is pretty enjoyable for a children's 80s cartoon, it's a good sick day movie.
- don't like the G4 toy line! MLP has always been dozens and dozens of unique pony "characters" to collect, and releasing the same characters over and over isn't why I like collecting MLP. it also feels cheaply-made (that hair!).
- I just loathe FiM Pinkie Pie.

aaah that felt good to get out.

I like Sprinkles because she was a childhood pony, but she is very pale.  I don't like the mail order version at all, it definitely looks like a faded Firefly.

I agree G3 ponies didn't look as good after they could turn their heads.

I hate that about the G4 line as well, that they repeat the same characters over and over.  Although that seems to be a pretty popular opinion.  Oh well, at least it gives my wallet a break and saves more money for G1 ponies.  I also hate how they are not as good quality as older generations.

I also hate Pinkie Pie.  :P


Oh, also, I don't like the term "pony cancer" mostly because it's just inaccurate, ponies don't get cancer, they're plastic.  But they do age, so I always use the term age spots.  But now that I know that people find it insensitive I will be doubly sure not to use it!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Brightglowpony on December 15, 2017, 12:09:45 AM
This is a fun thread.   ^.^  I love that blue Sprinkles and have long hoped somehow that prototype turns up someday!  I also enjoyed the G4 sea ponies and hippogriffs in the movie.   

My unpopular opinion is I really like Ringlet in the Rainbow Curl set, and feel she is overlooked.  She is a childhood pony and as a kid I always imagined she was super special because her symbol is near her shoulder and her wings are painted different shades of pastels.  Because of her being the only pony like this, I thought she was/should be sought after and fetch prices like Mimic, but turns out that is not the case at all!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on December 15, 2017, 03:12:53 AM
^ I thought she was popular too! I didn't know she was overlooked so often. She's one of my favourite ponies as well. ^.^
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on December 15, 2017, 05:30:48 AM
Rainbow Curl Ringlet isn’t popular? I think she’s pretty too.

I’m surprised that G1 Twilight the unicorn isn’t more popular. When a lot of people name favorite ponies I don’t see her mentioned as much as Moondancer and Glory. Speaking of Glory, she’s not one of my favorite ponies.


In G4 I think Thorax is an interesting character and I like him much better than Duscord.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 15, 2017, 08:39:24 AM
Ringlet is the only pony I do like in the Rainbow Curl set.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Brightglowpony on December 15, 2017, 09:06:52 AM
I'm glad other people like Ringlet too!  Ponyfan, that's true about Twilight.  It seems like the favorite unicorns are usually Moondancer, Glory, and Gusty.  I also really like Sparkler! 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 15, 2017, 09:16:09 AM
Rainbow Curl Ringlet isn’t popular? I think she’s pretty too.

I’m surprised that G1 Twilight the unicorn isn’t more popular. When a lot of people name favorite ponies I don’t see her mentioned as much as Moondancer and Glory. Speaking of Glory, she’s not one of my favorite ponies.


In G4 I think Thorax is an interesting character and I like him much better than Duscord.

Ponyfan

I like Glory, but she's not my favorite.

 I'll admit, I like Twilight, but never thought she would be a favorite of mine. She wasn't even on my wishlist and I traded for her on a whim. It was Instant Love people!

Mine goes:
Gusty
Twilight
Moondancer
Powder
Skyflier
Sparkler
Glory
Sunbeam

 I think Skyflier is an underrated beauty.

I don't like Baby Sea Poppy. She's kinda dull.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on December 15, 2017, 09:48:10 AM
I love Ringlet!! I really like her colours and her unique wings/symbol, I think she's gorgeous. I had no idea she was overlooked!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on December 15, 2017, 10:03:13 AM
Rainbow Curl Ringlet isn’t popular? I think she’s pretty too.

I’m surprised that G1 Twilight the unicorn isn’t more popular. When a lot of people name favorite ponies I don’t see her mentioned as much as Moondancer and Glory. Speaking of Glory, she’s not one of my favorite ponies.


In G4 I think Thorax is an interesting character and I like him much better than Duscord.

Ponyfan

I like Glory, but she's not my favorite.

 I'll admit, I like Twilight, but never thought she would be a favorite of mine. She wasn't even on my wishlist and I traded for her on a whim. It was Instant Love people!

Mine goes:
Gusty
Twilight
Moondancer
Powder
Skyflier
Sparkler
Glory
Sunbeam

 I think Skyflier is an underrated beauty.

I don't like Baby Sea Poppy. She's kinda dull.



I think Baby Sea Poppy's cute but that might be because of all the fun pics that I took of her and Lilly Drop playing tricks on each other.  :lol:
Pink/white is pretty but Hasbro used that combonation many times already.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 15, 2017, 10:09:45 AM
Yeah, that's pretty much why I'm not fond of her. Its an overused color scheme and I'm like eh. But whatever floats your boat. I do like that one Secret Surprise pony though.

I don't care what anyone says about Puddles n Peeks symbol. That's not the wind beneath their wings and those birds are clearly out to ruin someone's day. I think its hilarious! :haha:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 15, 2017, 02:16:07 PM
Rainbow Curl Ringlet isn’t popular? I think she’s pretty too.



Really unpopular opinion coming up now. That name for that pony really really offends me.

Rainbow Magic is a really special pony in my childhood. I've mentioned it before, but her story over here said she could grant wishes, and I chose her when my mother was ill because I wanted to wish for her to get better. As a child, I believed Rainbow Magic granted that wish, so I consider her really precious. (That's the reason my sister bought me the Fluttershy she did to go to Japan, because Rainbow Magic has that meaning for us both).

Because of that, I really cannot stand the laziness of the naming of this pony in the US. I am not generally a fan of US names but I don't usually find them actively offensive. This one offends me because I can't stand that such a beautiful, special, meaningful pony should have been given a name that maybe took ten seconds of looking at her concept art to decide on. All of the set have pretty lazy names, but only hers really offends me. The fact that its necessary to say what set she has come from before her name just proves how unoriginal it is.

She's worth more than that, Hasbro. She's Rainbow Magic, for goodness sake!

As for the unicorns, I am on the Glory bandwagon and have been since I was about five so can't really comment on that ;)

Puddles and Peeks' symbol. LAW...you are trying to ruin these poor twins for me;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jorgito93 on December 15, 2017, 02:19:28 PM
Rainbow Curl Ringlet isn’t popular? I think she’s pretty too.



Really unpopular opinion coming up now. That name for that pony really really offends me.

Rainbow Magic is a really special pony in my childhood. I've mentioned it before, but her story over here said she could grant wishes, and I chose her when my mother was ill because I wanted to wish for her to get better. As a child, I believed Rainbow Magic granted that wish, so I consider her really precious. (That's the reason my sister bought me the Fluttershy she did to go to Japan, because Rainbow Magic has that meaning for us both).

Because of that, I really cannot stand the laziness of the naming of this set in the US. I am not generally a fan of US names but I don't usually find them actively offensive. This one offends me because I can't stand that such a beautiful, special, meaningful pony should have been given a name that maybe took ten seconds of looking at her concept art to decide on. All of the set have pretty lazy names, but only hers really offends me.

She's worth more than that, Hasbro. She's Rainbow Magic, for goodness sake!
I don't want to insult your story because it's beautiful, and i understand that she means a lot to you, but for me,while Ringlet is a lazy name, Rainbow Magic seems pretty run-of-the-mill MLP, like a name someone would use in a parody.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 15, 2017, 02:37:59 PM
Rainbow Curl Ringlet isn’t popular? I think she’s pretty too.



Really unpopular opinion coming up now. That name for that pony really really offends me.

Rainbow Magic is a really special pony in my childhood. I've mentioned it before, but her story over here said she could grant wishes, and I chose her when my mother was ill because I wanted to wish for her to get better. As a child, I believed Rainbow Magic granted that wish, so I consider her really precious. (That's the reason my sister bought me the Fluttershy she did to go to Japan, because Rainbow Magic has that meaning for us both).

Because of that, I really cannot stand the laziness of the naming of this set in the US. I am not generally a fan of US names but I don't usually find them actively offensive. This one offends me because I can't stand that such a beautiful, special, meaningful pony should have been given a name that maybe took ten seconds of looking at her concept art to decide on. All of the set have pretty lazy names, but only hers really offends me.

She's worth more than that, Hasbro. She's Rainbow Magic, for goodness sake!
I don't want to insult your story because it's beautiful, and i understand that she means a lot to you, but for me,while Ringlet is a lazy name, Rainbow Magic seems pretty run-of-the-mill MLP, like a name someone would use in a parody.


I don't have a problem with your opinion of the name, it's your opinion.

I think if you have to start a post with "I don't want to insult" something, then maybe it's better thoguht and not said at that particular moment.

I didn't actually say that the name Rainbow Magic was the best name ever. Just that that was the name I identify that pony by, and it has strong connections to my childhood memories. If she's not going to be called Rainbow Magic in the US, at least US Hasbro could have made an effort to give her a name worthy of who she is, because to me she's Rainbow Magic, the pony who grants wishes. Because that's what Hasbro UK called the pony that I chose when my mother almost died, and that pony could grant wishes, and my mother survived.

So I think maybe your post was not really necessary. I mean, it's your opinion on the name, so fine, but I really think you missed my point completely, and by doing that, you did offend me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jorgito93 on December 15, 2017, 02:42:39 PM
Rainbow Curl Ringlet isn’t popular? I think she’s pretty too.



Really unpopular opinion coming up now. That name for that pony really really offends me.

Rainbow Magic is a really special pony in my childhood. I've mentioned it before, but her story over here said she could grant wishes, and I chose her when my mother was ill because I wanted to wish for her to get better. As a child, I believed Rainbow Magic granted that wish, so I consider her really precious. (That's the reason my sister bought me the Fluttershy she did to go to Japan, because Rainbow Magic has that meaning for us both).

Because of that, I really cannot stand the laziness of the naming of this set in the US. I am not generally a fan of US names but I don't usually find them actively offensive. This one offends me because I can't stand that such a beautiful, special, meaningful pony should have been given a name that maybe took ten seconds of looking at her concept art to decide on. All of the set have pretty lazy names, but only hers really offends me.

She's worth more than that, Hasbro. She's Rainbow Magic, for goodness sake!
I don't want to insult your story because it's beautiful, and i understand that she means a lot to you, but for me,while Ringlet is a lazy name, Rainbow Magic seems pretty run-of-the-mill MLP, like a name someone would use in a parody.


I don't have a problem with your opinion of the name, it's your opinion.

I think if you have to start a post with "I don't want to insult" something, then maybe it's better thoguht and not said at that particular moment.

I didn't actually say that the name Rainbow Magic was the best name ever. Just that that was the name I identify that pony by, and it has strong connections to my childhood memories. If she's not going to be called Rainbow Magic in the US, at least US Hasbro could have made an effort to give her a name worthy of who she is, because to me she's Rainbow Magic, the pony who grants wishes. Because that's what Hasbro UK called the pony that I chose when my mother almost died, and that pony could grant wishes, and my mother survived.

So I think maybe your post was not really necessary. I mean, it's your opinion on the name, so fine, but I really think you missed my point completely, and by doing that, you did offend me.
I didn't quite thought that out...I'm sorry, it was unnecessary.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 15, 2017, 02:50:30 PM
Rainbow Curl Ringlet isn’t popular? I think she’s pretty too.



Really unpopular opinion coming up now. That name for that pony really really offends me.

Rainbow Magic is a really special pony in my childhood. I've mentioned it before, but her story over here said she could grant wishes, and I chose her when my mother was ill because I wanted to wish for her to get better. As a child, I believed Rainbow Magic granted that wish, so I consider her really precious. (That's the reason my sister bought me the Fluttershy she did to go to Japan, because Rainbow Magic has that meaning for us both).

Because of that, I really cannot stand the laziness of the naming of this set in the US. I am not generally a fan of US names but I don't usually find them actively offensive. This one offends me because I can't stand that such a beautiful, special, meaningful pony should have been given a name that maybe took ten seconds of looking at her concept art to decide on. All of the set have pretty lazy names, but only hers really offends me.

She's worth more than that, Hasbro. She's Rainbow Magic, for goodness sake!
I don't want to insult your story because it's beautiful, and i understand that she means a lot to you, but for me,while Ringlet is a lazy name, Rainbow Magic seems pretty run-of-the-mill MLP, like a name someone would use in a parody.


I don't have a problem with your opinion of the name, it's your opinion.

I think if you have to start a post with "I don't want to insult" something, then maybe it's better thoguht and not said at that particular moment.

I didn't actually say that the name Rainbow Magic was the best name ever. Just that that was the name I identify that pony by, and it has strong connections to my childhood memories. If she's not going to be called Rainbow Magic in the US, at least US Hasbro could have made an effort to give her a name worthy of who she is, because to me she's Rainbow Magic, the pony who grants wishes. Because that's what Hasbro UK called the pony that I chose when my mother almost died, and that pony could grant wishes, and my mother survived.

So I think maybe your post was not really necessary. I mean, it's your opinion on the name, so fine, but I really think you missed my point completely, and by doing that, you did offend me.
I didn't quite thought that out...I'm sorry, it was unnecessary.

It's ok, air cleared and we moved on. I just wanted to clarify. I'm close to my mother, and she has ongoing health problems.

 I really don't mind if your unpopular opinion is not liking the UK name. We all have views on names of ponies and that's what this thread is for. It just maybe wasn't the best timing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on December 15, 2017, 02:56:42 PM
Taffeta, that is such a touching story. I think Rainbow Magic suits her much better than her US name.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 15, 2017, 04:57:04 PM
Rainbow Curl Ringlet isn’t popular? I think she’s pretty too.



Really unpopular opinion coming up now. That name for that pony really really offends me.

Rainbow Magic is a really special pony in my childhood. I've mentioned it before, but her story over here said she could grant wishes, and I chose her when my mother was ill because I wanted to wish for her to get better. As a child, I believed Rainbow Magic granted that wish, so I consider her really precious. (That's the reason my sister bought me the Fluttershy she did to go to Japan, because Rainbow Magic has that meaning for us both).

Because of that, I really cannot stand the laziness of the naming of this pony in the US. I am not generally a fan of US names but I don't usually find them actively offensive. This one offends me because I can't stand that such a beautiful, special, meaningful pony should have been given a name that maybe took ten seconds of looking at her concept art to decide on. All of the set have pretty lazy names, but only hers really offends me. The fact that its necessary to say what set she has come from before her name just proves how unoriginal it is.

She's worth more than that, Hasbro. She's Rainbow Magic, for goodness sake!

As for the unicorns, I am on the Glory bandwagon and have been since I was about five so can't really comment on that ;)

Puddles and Peeks' symbol. LAW...you are trying to ruin these poor twins for me;)

Moi? They put little white swirly dots directly beneath the birds butts. What am I supposed to think? XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on December 16, 2017, 07:58:00 AM

I think Skyflier is an underrated beauty.

So glad someone else thinks that! I also feel the same about Powder  :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lockette on December 16, 2017, 09:02:33 AM

I think Skyflier is an underrated beauty.

So glad someone else thinks that! I also feel the same about Powder  :)

I really don't like the pose but Powder was a childhood pony so I love her, makes me not mind the pose so much, and I love Skyflier cause they're so lovely together! she always looked "older" to me though, so she was a grandma lol
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 16, 2017, 09:16:52 AM

I think Skyflier is an underrated beauty.

So glad someone else thinks that! I also feel the same about Powder  :)

I adore them both, though as a child I was more partial to Powder. I still have a christmas card I received as a child with her on it. (Remembering neither were sold here -.-) they were both kind of mythical ponies to me as a child. I think I consider them all kind of special, that set and the one from the previous year, because while some ponies turned up a lot here second hand, they were never here so stayed special. But I agree that they deserve more attention, especially Skyflier. I think Powder is quite loved already, and I love her, didn't really understand how truly beautiful Skyflier was until I had one of my own.

Some of Hasbro's best works in those early years. Simple, effective, beautiful <3.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 16, 2017, 09:19:57 AM

I think Skyflier is an underrated beauty.

So glad someone else thinks that! I also feel the same about Powder  :)

I've always thought Powder was pretty. She's a childhood want of mine. I'll get her someday.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lockette on December 16, 2017, 10:12:33 AM
I agree that they deserve more attention, especially Skyflier. I think Powder is quite loved already, and I love her, didn't really understand how truly beautiful Skyflier was until I had one of my own.

yeah I originally just got Skyflier as a buddy for Powder but once I saw her in person I really adored her!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 16, 2017, 02:12:53 PM
I agree that they deserve more attention, especially Skyflier. I think Powder is quite loved already, and I love her, didn't really understand how truly beautiful Skyflier was until I had one of my own.

yeah I originally just got Skyflier as a buddy for Powder but once I saw her in person I really adored her!


Same. I bought her because she was cute and cheap, but I never realized how pretty she was in person till I got her in hand.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: reanna-mator on December 16, 2017, 03:30:06 PM
Tootsie and MM Cuddles are adorable. Their pose isn't well loved, but they're two ponies that I fell in love with once I actually had them in my hand. Tootsie's colors are so unique, and I never noticed Cuddles' pink stripe in her mane before I actually got her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 16, 2017, 07:33:28 PM
Tootsie and MM Cuddles are adorable. Their pose isn't well loved, but they're two ponies that I fell in love with once I actually had them in my hand. Tootsie's colors are so unique, and I never noticed Cuddles' pink stripe in her mane before I actually got her.

I love her colors too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lockette on December 16, 2017, 08:17:08 PM
Tootsie and MM Cuddles are adorable. Their pose isn't well loved, but they're two ponies that I fell in love with once I actually had them in my hand. Tootsie's colors are so unique, and I never noticed Cuddles' pink stripe in her mane before I actually got her.

is Tootsie as pea-green as she usually looks? it just seems to clash with the aqua to me but I've never seen her IRL. I've seen people call Baby BBE Frosting "pea-green" but IRL she looks pastel sugary green to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 16, 2017, 08:45:34 PM
Tootsie and MM Cuddles are adorable. Their pose isn't well loved, but they're two ponies that I fell in love with once I actually had them in my hand. Tootsie's colors are so unique, and I never noticed Cuddles' pink stripe in her mane before I actually got her.

is Tootsie as pea-green as she usually looks? it just seems to clash with the aqua to me but I've never seen her IRL. I've seen people call Baby BBE Frosting "pea-green" but IRL she looks pastel sugary green to me.

Baby Frosting is pastel sugar green.

I think its not so much that Tootsie is pea green, but I've heard people say she is prone to discoloring to pea green.

I have a BnG Ringlets. She's already discolored to gray, but I think it makes her color scheme even more striking and unusual. I love her this way. I know its unpopular to enjoy body discoloration, but on my girl it enhances instead of detracts.

https://littlekunai.deviantart.com/art/Ringlets-566547373
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on December 17, 2017, 08:10:15 AM
I like discoloration on BnG Ringlets too! For me, the purple never really suited her. The gray really brings out her pretty hair :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pheasant on December 17, 2017, 02:17:01 PM
*gets ready to dodge flying objects*

I am a G1 collector who does not like the G1 cartoons. Notably the voice acting and, in some cases, the storylines. Most of the songs don't appeal to me either.

Don't get me wrong, I think they're cute and I fully understand that they were created just to sell extra merchandise...it's just that, outside of one or two episodes, I found them a little dull to watch. :huh:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: poniesthatsparkle on December 17, 2017, 03:03:45 PM
I don't always mind cut hair. Sometimes it actually looks really cute when it's short! I guess it all depends on the pony and how much hair was chopped off.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 18, 2017, 02:24:23 AM
*gets ready to dodge flying objects*

I am a G1 collector who does not like the G1 cartoons. Notably the voice acting and, in some cases, the storylines. Most of the songs don't appeal to me either.

Don't get me wrong, I think they're cute and I fully understand that they were created just to sell extra merchandise...it's just that, outside of one or two episodes, I found them a little dull to watch. :huh:

I mostly agree with you. I like them more since FIM happened because it made me realise how much more depth and darkness G1 was willing to address. But aside a few episodes as a child it wasn't ever important to me. I hate the movie and most of the characterisations jar with my comic influenced childhood. So do some of the names and ponies...some of which did not exist here. I don't feel much of a connection to the G1 animation at all. To me it is cute but has little to do with what MLP meant to me growing up.

The one exception is Paradise. My love of her came from Revolt of PE which I watched a lot as a kid.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 18, 2017, 07:11:50 AM
I love Revolt of Paradise Estate. Beezin is such a weird villain and the talking furniture never fails to entertain me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on December 18, 2017, 07:43:56 AM
I have a few favorite  G1 episodes including Rescue at Midnight Castle, Escape from Catrina and The Glass Princess. I never get tired of watching the ponies go through the pony wash. I’m not a big fan of Bright Lights or Quest of the Princess ponies. Revolt of Paradise Estate is a fun episode for me too. I also like the Prince and the Ponies.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 18, 2017, 07:54:20 AM
Wow. I can't believe this thread has gone on for 49 pages. That's cool.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on December 18, 2017, 10:38:39 AM
I don't always mind cut hair. Sometimes it actually looks really cute when it's short! I guess it all depends on the pony and how much hair was chopped off.

Yes! :D I have two Shaggies, one in great condition with long hair, and one in less great condition with chopped hair. The "nice" one is always in my pony box, while the chopped one is always around somewhere so I can see her. She just has the cutest toddler hair! It's really like she was supposed to be this way. :P :heart:

My chopped Shaggy:

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Also, bad camera is bad. Sorry for the quality. :hmm:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 18, 2017, 10:49:04 AM
The photos look fine to me BIW. She's cute!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on December 18, 2017, 10:54:33 AM
Thanks! :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lockette on December 18, 2017, 02:33:37 PM
I know this is a very unpopular perspective for many people (and for others not so much!) but to me MLPs are collectibles.  a lot of people say that they're toys first and their condition doesnt matter, etc.  and I am happy to know that most of my ponies have been loved in the past!  but I will sometimes upgrade a pony to a better-condition one (I found an UU&A with nice pink hair so my faded one is off the shelf and will hopefully go to a good home soon!).  I also upgrade my childhood ponies for collector pieces on the shelf, and keep the beat-up childhood toys separate.  my ponies don't have to be mint but I want them to look near-mint on the shelf and in most photos.  I like them lined up in rows, and quantity does matter to me; having a large collection makes me feel proud, accomplished, and very fortunate.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 19, 2017, 02:56:48 AM
Interesting, Lockette! I am not sure your opinion is unpopular, I have heard a lot of other collectors who do that (upgrading and selling on the original). Myself personally, I keep the original and the upgrade, which is part of the reason for my space issues xD. Although there are rules associated with this because originally I collected with my sister. So if it's a pony she had and then I got one, probably I will upgrade mine and sell the one I have already because the 'collection' one belongs to Naynie and so mine is just a fill-in. If it's one that I had originally in the collection, I will keep both.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on December 19, 2017, 06:58:19 PM
I don't care at all about this G5 leaked stuff :shrug:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on December 19, 2017, 11:28:18 PM
I don't care at all about this G5 leaked stuff :shrug:
Neither do I  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 20, 2017, 09:05:02 AM
I might have, if it were new and fresh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 20, 2017, 03:37:30 PM
I might have, if it were new and fresh.

I find it interesting, but I'm neither excited or horrified by it. I like speculation about stuff, but to me that's all it is. I still consider G5 a myth until it actually appears on our shelves. Hasbro are prone to changing their minds. Often ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 20, 2017, 04:34:00 PM
I might have, if it were new and fresh.

I find it interesting, but I'm neither excited or horrified by it. I like speculation about stuff, but to me that's all it is. I still consider G5 a myth until it actually appears on our shelves. Hasbro are prone to changing their minds. Often ;)

They do seem a wee bit wishy-washy from time to time.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Dreamer on December 20, 2017, 09:50:34 PM
I LOVE late generation gimmicks.  Colorswirl, color-changing, tropical neon, rockbeat, dance n prance ponies -hay yeah. The g4 ones too (snowglobe, pearly, seaponies), but I'd like them more if I liked g4 style better  :P1
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on December 21, 2017, 04:50:20 PM
I LOVE late generation gimmicks.  Colorswirl, color-changing, tropical neon, rockbeat, dance n prance ponies -hay yeah. The g4 ones too (snowglobe, pearly, seaponies), but I'd like them more if I liked g4 style better  :P1

I like them as well, just some of the funkiness to them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 21, 2017, 05:52:36 PM
With G4, I kinda hafta have gimmicks. They're mostly not worth owning otherwise. Impo.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 21, 2017, 05:56:53 PM
With G4, I kinda hafta have gimmicks. They're mostly not worth owning otherwise. Impo.

I admit I only have Shine Bright Twilight Sparkle because her light up unicorn horn makes me laugh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 21, 2017, 07:07:31 PM
With G4, I kinda hafta have gimmicks. They're mostly not worth owning otherwise. Impo.

I admit I only have Shine Bright Twilight Sparkle because her light up unicorn horn makes me laugh.

Neat. Ididn't know there was one like that.

The few recurring characters that I have, are gimmicky.

Rainbowdash-Magic Scenes

Princess Luna-Her whole body lights up and has modes.

Princess Celestia-Water Cutie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on December 22, 2017, 06:24:37 AM
I don't care at all about this G5 leaked stuff :shrug:

I guess I don't care if G4 ends. It's been around for so long I have lost all attachment I once had to it. But I find it fun to speculate about how the next gen will look like and what to expect.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 23, 2017, 01:06:59 AM
With G4, I kinda hafta have gimmicks. They're mostly not worth owning otherwise. Impo.

I admit I only have Shine Bright Twilight Sparkle because her light up unicorn horn makes me laugh.

Neat. Ididn't know there was one like that.


I got her in a lot of second hand G4 at a really knock down price, I bought the lot for Trixie and the original Cheerilee, both of whom I think are really pretty, and she amused me so ended up staying too. I had to look up what her set was though. Had no idea.

@Zapper, I generally agree. I don't mind if it continues or it ends. I just hope if it ends, the fad people will disappear and the pony community can actually be more of one community instead of divided like it currently is. There are lots of great G4 people here and I see them at ponycon as well. So I live in hope.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 23, 2017, 08:34:40 AM
With G4, I kinda hafta have gimmicks. They're mostly not worth owning otherwise. Impo.

I admit I only have Shine Bright Twilight Sparkle because her light up unicorn horn makes me laugh.

Neat. Ididn't know there was one like that.


I got her in a lot of second hand G4 at a really knock down price, I bought the lot for Trixie and the original Cheerilee, both of whom I think are really pretty, and she amused me so ended up staying too. I had to look up what her set was though. Had no idea.

@Zapper, I generally agree. I don't mind if it continues or it ends. I just hope if it ends, the fad people will disappear and the pony community can actually be more of one community instead of divided like it currently is. There are lots of great G4 people here and I see them at ponycon as well. So I live in hope.
It'd be nice.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: DazzleKitty on December 24, 2017, 03:33:18 PM
One I can think of is I don't think the TAF Babies are cute like everyone else does, and they are not on my top wanted list.

The MO babies that are cutest to me are Baby Sugarcake and Gametime. I know they are rare, but they don't seem super popular. I think they have the prettiest colors.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RoseNoire on December 25, 2017, 03:41:06 PM
I LOVE the hair color "Electric Banana", it has a funny name and it's really bright and unusual, it pleases my eyes anyway. I goes so well on my Morning Glory, I just want to get every single pony with that hair color.  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on December 26, 2017, 07:12:49 AM
Can I just say, if people don't mind, that I am really glad that there are still be people here who can differentiate the different types of G4 fans.  As a brony who still has a nostalgic attachment to the name, but also one that loves the older generations, it is nice to know that I am not automatically assumed to be one of the "fad people", and that there is awareness that good G4 fans exist.  Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on December 29, 2017, 03:02:49 AM
I don't like Mimic's twinkle eyes, I wish she had the normal eyes. Luckily I might get a bait Majesty and turn her into a non Twinkleeyed Mimic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tulagirl on December 29, 2017, 07:05:17 AM
One I can think of is I don't think the TAF Babies are cute like everyone else does, and they are not on my top wanted list.

The MO babies that are cutest to me are Baby Sugarcake and Gametime. I know they are rare, but they don't seem super popular. I think they have the prettiest colors.

I love the Taf babies and really have a couple of favorites.  I don't own any though.  One thing that bothers me is Baby Sugarberry's hair color. It is wrong, wrong and triple wrong.  That little pony needs the same awesome hair as the adult version.  MO I would still want her though because I love Sugarberry in general.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 29, 2017, 08:10:40 AM
One I can think of is I don't think the TAF Babies are cute like everyone else does, and they are not on my top wanted list.

The MO babies that are cutest to me are Baby Sugarcake and Gametime. I know they are rare, but they don't seem super popular. I think they have the prettiest colors.

I love the Taf babies and really have a couple of favorites.  I don't own any though.  One thing that bothers me is Baby Sugarberry's hair color. It is wrong, wrong and triple wrong.  That little pony needs the same awesome hair as the adult version.  MO I would still want her though because I love Sugarberry in general.

She doesn't?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Bewilderbeast on December 29, 2017, 09:50:40 AM
I'm probably just going to say a lot of things people have already said, but here goes...

- I loathe Mimic. She's overpriced and overhyped, and for some reason my first thought on seeing her "wow, snooty", which isn't something I feel with Milky Way
- I'm looking forward to G5 immensely and I really hope they decide to go with all new ponies, because I'm tired of the Mane Six
- I would happily deflock even a mint So-Soft because I hate the texture and the way it dulls their colours
- I love G2 a LOT
- I didn't know about the Sweetheart Sisters until three years ago and I fell in love with them all. I love their poses and daintiness and I feel like they complete the pony lifecycle, between baby ponies and adult ponies
- The German baby ponies need more love (but they also don't because they're expensive enough as it is XP)
- I don't get the hype over Nirvana ponies. Most of them are tremendously ugly and they look cheap.

One I can think of is I don't think the TAF Babies are cute like everyone else does, and they are not on my top wanted list.

The MO babies that are cutest to me are Baby Sugarcake and Gametime. I know they are rare, but they don't seem super popular. I think they have the prettiest colors.

I love the Taf babies and really have a couple of favorites.  I don't own any though.  One thing that bothers me is Baby Sugarberry's hair color. It is wrong, wrong and triple wrong.  That little pony needs the same awesome hair as the adult version.  MO I would still want her though because I love Sugarberry in general.

She doesn't?

No, it's lighter and pinker, more like magenta. It is, however, almost the exact same shade as Strawberry Surprise's...  :wonder:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on December 29, 2017, 10:26:50 AM
I wish the TAF babies all matched their mother’s pony species rather than some of them being different.

I like Mail Order Ember better than Star symbol Ember.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 29, 2017, 10:40:23 AM
I'm probably just going to say a lot of things people have already said, but here goes...

- I loathe Mimic. She's overpriced and overhyped, and for some reason my first thought on seeing her "wow, snooty", which isn't something I feel with Milky Way
- I'm looking forward to G5 immensely and I really hope they decide to go with all new ponies, because I'm tired of the Mane Six
- I would happily deflock even a mint So-Soft because I hate the texture and the way it dulls their colours
- I love G2 a LOT
- I didn't know about the Sweetheart Sisters until three years ago and I fell in love with them all. I love their poses and daintiness and I feel like they complete the pony lifecycle, between baby ponies and adult ponies
- The German baby ponies need more love (but they also don't because they're expensive enough as it is XP)
- I don't get the hype over Nirvana ponies. Most of them are tremendously ugly and they look cheap.

One I can think of is I don't think the TAF Babies are cute like everyone else does, and they are not on my top wanted list.

The MO babies that are cutest to me are Baby Sugarcake and Gametime. I know they are rare, but they don't seem super popular. I think they have the prettiest colors.

I love the Taf babies and really have a couple of favorites.  I don't own any though.  One thing that bothers me is Baby Sugarberry's hair color. It is wrong, wrong and triple wrong.  That little pony needs the same awesome hair as the adult version.  MO I would still want her though because I love Sugarberry in general.

She doesn't?

No, it's lighter and pinker, more like magenta. It is, however, almost the exact same shade as Strawberry Surprise's...  :wonder:

Ohh.

OT but I love your avatar. One of my favorite water types.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Bewilderbeast on December 29, 2017, 10:50:18 AM
One I can think of is I don't think the TAF Babies are cute like everyone else does, and they are not on my top wanted list.

The MO babies that are cutest to me are Baby Sugarcake and Gametime. I know they are rare, but they don't seem super popular. I think they have the prettiest colors.

I love the Taf babies and really have a couple of favorites.  I don't own any though.  One thing that bothers me is Baby Sugarberry's hair color. It is wrong, wrong and triple wrong.  That little pony needs the same awesome hair as the adult version.  MO I would still want her though because I love Sugarberry in general.

She doesn't?

No, it's lighter and pinker, more like magenta. It is, however, almost the exact same shade as Strawberry Surprise's...  :wonder:

Ohh.

OT but I love your avatar. One of my favorite water types.

Thank you! Yours is cute too!  :redface:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on December 29, 2017, 04:38:08 PM
Bewilderbeast I love your av, too!! Azumarill is the best :heart: and I love that shot of it, so cute XP
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 29, 2017, 05:14:04 PM
Bewilderbeast I love your av, too!! Azumarill is the best :heart: and I love that shot of it, so cute XP

Popular Pony Opinion. Azumarill rocks!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on December 29, 2017, 06:36:30 PM
i hate firefly and rainbowdash g4 and i wish sprinkles was more popular and diamond dreams reminds me of mcdonalds
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Bewilderbeast on December 29, 2017, 08:23:36 PM
Bewilderbeast I love your av, too!! Azumarill is the best :heart: and I love that shot of it, so cute XP

Popular Pony Opinion. Azumarill rocks!

I've used Azumarill twice in the games now and honestly I love it. They kick serious butt while still being cute.

To remain on topic: I wish the original cartoon had kept the animation style used in Midnight Castle. The Japanese contribution to the animation really brought the quality up.
I dislike when ponies are listed as baity because they have a bit of dirt that someone can't be bothered to clean off
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 30, 2017, 06:34:15 AM
i hate firefly and rainbowdash g4 and i wish sprinkles was more popular and diamond dreams reminds me of mcdonalds

For some reason I found the bolded bit of what you said hilarious. While we're on the food associations, I think Lightning looks like cheese. Red Leicester cheese. With cheddary hair.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 30, 2017, 08:49:03 AM
i hate firefly and rainbowdash g4 and i wish sprinkles was more popular and diamond dreams reminds me of mcdonalds

McDonald's?  :what:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RoseNoire on December 30, 2017, 08:50:57 AM
The color scheme. ;)
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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 30, 2017, 08:59:12 AM
The color scheme. ;)
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Huh. I never thought of it that way.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on December 30, 2017, 09:01:25 AM
I have discovered that I like Equestria Girls. :) I thought I wouldn’t enjoy the first film but I really liked it.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Bewilderbeast on December 30, 2017, 11:15:10 AM
i hate firefly and rainbowdash g4 and i wish sprinkles was more popular and diamond dreams reminds me of mcdonalds

For some reason I found the bolded bit of what you said hilarious. While we're on the food associations, I think Lightning looks like cheese. Red Leicester cheese. With cheddary hair.

I'll never be able to unsee that now.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on December 30, 2017, 02:50:46 PM
I have discovered that I like Equestria Girls. :) I thought I wouldn’t enjoy the first film but I really liked it.

I like Rainbow Rocks a lot!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on December 30, 2017, 02:57:16 PM
i hate firefly and rainbowdash g4 and i wish sprinkles was more popular and diamond dreams reminds me of mcdonalds

For some reason I found the bolded bit of what you said hilarious. While we're on the food associations, I think Lightning looks like cheese. Red Leicester cheese. With cheddary hair.
i didnt know it was bolded lol
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 31, 2017, 07:54:57 AM
I have discovered that I like Equestria Girls. :) I thought I wouldn’t enjoy the first film but I really liked it.

I like Rainbow Rocks a lot!
I do too. I don't know if it is an unpopular opinion but I genuinely like Equestria Girls movies/eps and I still like the old dolls. I still rescue them from charity shops even if they lack articulation. Especially Sunset Shimmer. I think Rainbow Rocks won it for me because of all the nods it makes to the old Jem cartoon. The ending of RR is very much like a scene in the early Jem episodes, where the Holograms try to draw away the attention of fans crowding around the Misfits' rigged battle of the band contest. Adagio does remind me somewhat of Pizzazz as well, so I love her too. Her sidekicks are not much like Stormer and Roxy, but I can make do. Hasbro were definitely channeling Jem when they made Rainbow Rocks.

@MamiTomoe - you're not going mad, I bolded it ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on December 31, 2017, 02:46:47 PM
I have discovered that I like Equestria Girls. :) I thought I wouldn’t enjoy the first film but I really liked it.

I like Rainbow Rocks a lot!
I do too. I don't know if it is an unpopular opinion but I genuinely like Equestria Girls movies/eps and I still like the old dolls. I still rescue them from charity shops even if they lack articulation. Especially Sunset Shimmer. I think Rainbow Rocks won it for me because of all the nods it makes to the old Jem cartoon. The ending of RR is very much like a scene in the early Jem episodes, where the Holograms try to draw away the attention of fans crowding around the Misfits' rigged battle of the band contest. Adagio does remind me somewhat of Pizzazz as well, so I love her too. Her sidekicks are not much like Stormer and Roxy, but I can make do. Hasbro were definitely channeling Jem when they made Rainbow Rocks.

@MamiTomoe - you're not going mad, I bolded it ;)
lol
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 04, 2018, 11:11:56 AM
Ponies like Heart throb, Pinkie Pie and Strawberry Surprise are waay too pink.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on January 04, 2018, 11:15:12 AM
Ponies like Heart throb, Pinkie Pie and Strawberry Surprise are waay too pink.

Pink body with magenta hair usually looks gross to me. But I love Strawberry Surprise! She's my exception from the norm.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 04, 2018, 11:17:07 AM
Ponies like Heart throb, Pinkie Pie and Strawberry Surprise are waay too pink.

Pink body with magenta hair usually looks gross to me. But I love Strawberry Surprise! She's my exception from the norm.

She woulda looked cuter with dark green hair. She has a great symbol.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nenufar on January 04, 2018, 12:12:15 PM
I like sweetheart princess ponies ^^

I don't like the Hair-do ponies (European pearlized version of three ponies with something weird that bends the hair ^^U )

In the beginnig, I was afraid of the Firefly/Sprinkes G1 pose. (Rearing pegasus). I don't know why. I even didn't bought any pony with that pose until some years ago. Now I'm OK  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on January 05, 2018, 08:01:33 AM
I'm cool with Daring Do being real in My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.  I like Al's alternative version where A.K. Yearling is a realistic portrayal of an archaeologist, who writes the Daring Do books on the side, and loosely bases them on what she's seen, or something, but I enjoyed "Daring Don't" and I liked Dave Polsky's explanation that he/they wanted to do something unexpected (I think, it's been a while).  I am fine with the idea of A.K. Yearling writing books about herself, despite it being a secret, because I view it as a sort of Clark Kent/Superman, thing (and yes, I know that newspapers are not fictional, like the Daring Do books are supposed to be, but it's enough of a comparison to me).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: poniesthatsparkle on January 05, 2018, 11:18:14 AM
I don't mind having ponies that aren't in mint condition. I think that ponies with play wear have much more personality to them and hold a very interesting story. I always wonder who the ponies were owned by, who bought them, if they were a gift, how they were played with, etc. I have a baby ballerina Pony with a star drawn in pen where her symbol would be if she had one, and I can't bear to try to fade it away. Whatever child owned her loved her so much that she gave her a symbol and I just can't take that away from the pony.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Bewilderbeast on January 05, 2018, 11:42:33 AM
I don't mind having ponies that aren't in mint condition. I think that ponies with play wear have much more personality to them and hold a very interesting story. I always wonder who the ponies were owned by, who bought them, if they were a gift, how they were played with, etc. I have a baby ballerina Pony with a star drawn in pen where her symbol would be if she had one, and I can't bear to try to fade it away. Whatever child owned her loved her so much that she gave her a symbol and I just can't take that away from the pony.

Catch me crying in the club because this is so sweet :wail:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on January 05, 2018, 12:04:12 PM
I don't mind having ponies that aren't in mint condition. I think that ponies with play wear have much more personality to them and hold a very interesting story. I always wonder who the ponies were owned by, who bought them, if they were a gift, how they were played with, etc. I have a baby ballerina Pony with a star drawn in pen where her symbol would be if she had one, and I can't bear to try to fade it away. Whatever child owned her loved her so much that she gave her a symbol and I just can't take that away from the pony.
Me too! Most of my ponies are from goodwill and aren't anywhere near mint so I would have to learn to deal with it anyway. That story is so precious!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 05, 2018, 12:36:29 PM
I really like ponies who have names on the hooves. It makes me think of Toy Story 2. A lot of my childhood ones have my name on the hooves still. It's just sweet although a little sad too that that person grew up and no longer loved them.

Cue Jessie's song...

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on January 05, 2018, 12:41:38 PM
I really like ponies who have names on the hooves. It makes me think of Toy Story 2. A lot of my childhood ones have my name on the hooves still. It's just sweet although a little sad too that that person grew up and no longer loved them.

Cue Jessie's song...

I visciously remove things like that because I don't want the ponies to remember their former masters. I am the one and only overlord once they're in my realm :angry:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 05, 2018, 12:55:29 PM
I really like ponies who have names on the hooves. It makes me think of Toy Story 2. A lot of my childhood ones have my name on the hooves still. It's just sweet although a little sad too that that person grew up and no longer loved them.

Cue Jessie's song...

I visciously remove things like that because I don't want the ponies to remember their former masters. I am the one and only overlord once they're in my realm :angry:

Really? I often wish I could ask my ponies about their former lives. It's interesting to me ;) especially ponies from other countries...since they would have shared adventures with their humans that would be totally different from mine :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 05, 2018, 01:15:18 PM
I really like ponies who have names on the hooves. It makes me think of Toy Story 2. A lot of my childhood ones have my name on the hooves still. It's just sweet although a little sad too that that person grew up and no longer loved them.

Cue Jessie's song...

I visciously remove things like that because I don't want the ponies to remember their former masters. I am the one and only overlord once they're in my realm :angry:

:snicker:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nenufar on January 06, 2018, 09:46:43 AM
I don't mind having ponies that aren't in mint condition. I think that ponies with play wear have much more personality to them and hold a very interesting story. I always wonder who the ponies were owned by, who bought them, if they were a gift, how they were played with, etc. I have a baby ballerina Pony with a star drawn in pen where her symbol would be if she had one, and I can't bear to try to fade it away. Whatever child owned her loved her so much that she gave her a symbol and I just can't take that away from the pony.

That's a lovely story! I have two nirvana baby ponies that are in a terrible condition, but I didn't repainted any erased eye or rerooted theyr hair or tail, I just cleaned them up and brushed the damaged hair, because I see that they have a past with some child who played a lot with them. They have a story on every mark, every erased symbol and every eye lost. Some kind of cute ancient treasure.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on January 06, 2018, 09:55:13 AM
I think each and every official G4 plush is ugly. The only ones that look nice are the BaB but I hate the nylon hair and costs.

That's why I got the Chinese factory ones on ebay who look show accurate and even have their marks on both sides.
Hasbro should have made them hand over the patterns before they sent a C&D. Their plushies looked super cute and had nice quality.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 06, 2018, 10:37:17 AM
I think each and every official G4 plush is ugly. The only ones that look nice are the BaB but I hate the nylon hair and costs.

That's why I got the Chinese factory ones on ebay who look show accurate and even have their marks on both sides.
Hasbro should have made them hand over the patterns before they sent a C&D. Their plushies looked super cute and had nice quality.

They are ugly. It's a crying shame that other companies put more effort and quality into Hasbro's products then Hasbro does.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jorgito93 on January 06, 2018, 01:23:16 PM
I really like ponies who have names on the hooves. It makes me think of Toy Story 2. A lot of my childhood ones have my name on the hooves still. It's just sweet although a little sad too that that person grew up and no longer loved them.

Cue Jessie's song...
I hate you.I didn't want to cry today.
I love ponies that have been loved too, it just gives them personnality.I wish i could ask them all about their past too.I have an italian Glory with a half erased name on her hoof, and i just can't bring myself to erase it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on January 06, 2018, 01:26:46 PM
I think each and every official G4 plush is ugly. The only ones that look nice are the BaB but I hate the nylon hair and costs.

That's why I got the Chinese factory ones on ebay who look show accurate and even have their marks on both sides.
Hasbro should have made them hand over the patterns before they sent a C&D. Their plushies looked super cute and had nice quality.

They are ugly. It's a crying shame that other companies put more effort and quality into Hasbro's products then Hasbro does.

And they made so many characters. I have Cloudchaser and Flitter, they even have different wing designs and accessories.
Guess my unpopular opinion is that I think illegal plushies are ok if they look nice :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 09, 2018, 07:48:48 AM
I don't like G4 Rarity's personality. She's whiny, melodramatic and reminds me more of Truly, then Rainbowdash.

I prefer the second set of Flutters over the first. As well as the Party Pack and MO Flutters. The first set is pretty and I do love them and want most of them, but the rest have more variety in color scheme and symbol. I don't really care for Wingsong and Cloud Puff though. Cloud because of her extreme regrind issue. Which is kind of amazing actually. Wingsong because of her color scheme.

Sure wish we'd gotten a third set.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Bewilderbeast on January 09, 2018, 01:06:23 PM
I think each and every official G4 plush is ugly. The only ones that look nice are the BaB but I hate the nylon hair and costs.

That's why I got the Chinese factory ones on ebay who look show accurate and even have their marks on both sides.
Hasbro should have made them hand over the patterns before they sent a C&D. Their plushies looked super cute and had nice quality.

They are ugly. It's a crying shame that other companies put more effort and quality into Hasbro's products then Hasbro does.

My Lunas are fakie plushies but they look SO GOOD. They used silky fabric for her mane and tail and even embroidered silver stars like???
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RavenPaw on January 09, 2018, 01:12:40 PM
I think each and every official G4 plush is ugly. The only ones that look nice are the BaB but I hate the nylon hair and costs.

That's why I got the Chinese factory ones on ebay who look show accurate and even have their marks on both sides.
Hasbro should have made them hand over the patterns before they sent a C&D. Their plushies looked super cute and had nice quality.

Oooh I'd love to see pictures!

I have some Ty plushies and I think they are cute, and I'd love to have BaB plushies but I can't afford them.  But in general I agree plushies could be much better.

I don't like Flutter Pony wings.  I do have one Flutter with original wings and she's very special of course.  But I just don't think they look like wings.  I like the Summer/Windy Wing Ponies much better.  Their wings are much prettier and more creative, plus they are more durable.  I think the ponies themselves are cuter too.  I do like Flutter Ponies though!  I do like the iridescence of their wings and their delicate look, I just think they could have been shaped better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khayman81 on January 09, 2018, 02:36:44 PM
I think each and every official G4 plush is ugly. The only ones that look nice are the BaB but I hate the nylon hair and costs.

That's why I got the Chinese factory ones on ebay who look show accurate and even have their marks on both sides.
Hasbro should have made them hand over the patterns before they sent a C&D. Their plushies looked super cute and had nice quality.

Oooh I'd love to see pictures!

I have some Ty plushies and I think they are cute, and I'd love to have BaB plushies but I can't afford them.  But in general I agree plushies could be much better.

I don't like Flutter Pony wings.  I do have one Flutter with original wings and she's very special of course.  But I just don't think they look like wings.  I like the Summer/Windy Wing Ponies much better.  Their wings are much prettier and more creative, plus they are more durable.  I think the ponies themselves are cuter too.  I do like Flutter Ponies though!  I do like the iridescence of their wings and their delicate look, I just think they could have been shaped better.

That is why l was so happy to get Flutters with no wings, so l could make my own ones more accurate with the wings they should have gotten. The original ones are too weird for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on January 10, 2018, 03:08:45 PM
I don't like most of the official G4 plushies (except the Build-A-Bear ones--but why does their hair get messed up so easily??? Like????)

BUT

I also don't like the G1 plushies, the Hasbro Softies.  They look unhappy, like they're screaming their regrets.

About the 'bootleg' (but nice) plushes, I just found out they made G1 Jazzie.  You can easily find her on eBay if you search for her.  Has her rollerskates and CD player and everything.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jorgito93 on January 10, 2018, 04:16:47 PM
I don't like most of the official G4 plushies (except the Build-A-Bear ones--but why does their hair get messed up so easily??? Like????)

BUT

I also don't like the G1 plushies, the Hasbro Softies.  They look unhappy, like they're screaming their regrets.

About the 'bootleg' (but nice) plushes, I just found out they made G1 Jazzie.  You can easily find her on eBay if you search for her.  Has her rollerskates and CD player and everything.
I'm pretty sure it's a g4 version of her, but she looks nice.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 10, 2018, 04:31:12 PM
I like flutter pony wings better than Windy and Summer Wing ones. Even though they break easily.

I don't really like official plushes either, and especially the G1 ones. I have a soft spot for Honeycomb but I actually think some of the best plush come from G3. I have an amazing huge Sunny Daze from Australia stuffed away in my cupboard waiting for me to have floor space to flop her down like a rug.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on January 22, 2018, 08:38:33 PM
Whoa, how did this make it to page 3? Anyway!

Don't think I've posted this here? I love the new Equestria Girls dolls a lot. They feel higher quality than the older ones. Clothes feel better, hair is better. I have all seven of the new ones now and I'm excited for whenever they announce more (I especially would love some deluxe ones with fancier outfits and more articulation).

My only real complaints are that Rainbow's hair has way too much blue, and I don't like that the apple on AJ's shirt is a sticker.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on January 30, 2018, 03:13:49 AM
People on eBay.uk selling ponies without doing research. On eBay.uk today I found someone selling pony books, with Bow Tie and they're saying its a flutter pony. Clearly they don't know the difference between Flutter pony size and the earth pony size.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 30, 2018, 04:52:42 AM
People on eBay.uk selling ponies without doing research. On eBay.uk today I found someone selling pony books, with Bow Tie and they're saying its a flutter pony. Clearly they don't know the difference between Flutter pony size and the earth pony size.

Agree with this. The people who put HTF RARE but haven't even bothered to look up the name also annoys me. It's not like one pony is the same as another...

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on January 30, 2018, 03:29:08 PM
I think G3, especially the movies  (i.e. Princess Promenade) had the best animation out of all MLP cartoons.

I don't like Mimic's color at all.

I never liked the g4 toys that aren't show-accurate because their foreheads are giant.

I prefer TAF Yumyum with faded hair because white ponies with white hair are my absolute favorite.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on January 31, 2018, 06:15:00 AM
I think G3, especially the movies  (i.e. Princess Promenade) had the best animation out of all MLP cartoons.
I second this completely!  It is one of the reasons I refer to G3 as "The Beautiful Generation".
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sparkle Pony on January 31, 2018, 09:01:29 AM
I think G3, especially the movies  (i.e. Princess Promenade) had the best animation out of all MLP cartoons.

I agree too!  To be fair though, G1 isn't really the kind of show that gets praise for its animation usually and G4 tends to be a matter of taste.  The G3 animation is pretty universally appealing looking.

Probably one of my biggest pet peeves with MLP toys is poses that have the legs fused to the body (Bubbles/Firefly pose in G1) or the legs fused together (some G2 poses) or the leg fused to itself (like the G2 Tipsy Tulip pose).  It's one nice thing about G3 and G4, as far as I'm aware neither generation did these things with the brushables.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on January 31, 2018, 09:26:02 AM
I think G3, especially the movies  (i.e. Princess Promenade) had the best animation out of all MLP cartoons.

I agree too!  To be fair though, G1 isn't really the kind of show that gets praise for its animation usually and G4 tends to be a matter of taste.  The G3 animation is pretty universally appealing looking.

Probably one of my biggest pet peeves with MLP toys is poses that have the legs fused to the body (Bubbles/Firefly pose in G1) or the legs fused together (some G2 poses) or the leg fused to itself (like the G2 Tipsy Tulip pose).  It's one nice thing about G3 and G4, as far as I'm aware neither generation did these things with the brushables.
so true
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 31, 2018, 09:43:22 AM
G3 animation is very pretty. I wish there'd been more depth of plot in G3. It is cute. Minty's Christmas whatever it is is probably the cutest,  but yeah. Saw something G3 recently (last summer) on TV when in Portugal. I speak no Portuguese and I could still follow what was happening. That means the plot is wayy too simple xD

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 31, 2018, 09:44:58 AM
I think G3, especially the movies  (i.e. Princess Promenade) had the best animation out of all MLP cartoons.

I agree too!  To be fair though, G1 isn't really the kind of show that gets praise for its animation usually and G4 tends to be a matter of taste.  The G3 animation is pretty universally appealing looking.

Probably one of my biggest pet peeves with MLP toys is poses that have the legs fused to the body (Bubbles/Firefly pose in G1) or the legs fused together (some G2 poses) or the leg fused to itself (like the G2 Tipsy Tulip pose).  It's one nice thing about G3 and G4, as far as I'm aware neither generation did these things with the brushables.

Same here.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on January 31, 2018, 10:12:19 AM
I think G3, especially the movies  (i.e. Princess Promenade) had the best animation out of all MLP cartoons.

The animation might be nice but I hate the G3 cartoons because the voices are so annoying.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on January 31, 2018, 12:56:27 PM
I think G3, especially the movies  (i.e. Princess Promenade) had the best animation out of all MLP cartoons.

The animation might be nice but I hate the G3 cartoons because the voices are so annoying.

G3 Minty's voice and dorky laugh is my favorite thing about the G3 movies. She is just such a geek, filled with personality. The voice work really conveys that, imo.

I really dislike G3 Pinkie's nasal tone and general attitude, tho. I kinda hate that both G3 and G4 Pinkie Pie have become the face for their respective gens because they are both annoying characters to me. Pony overload usually leads to me getting sick of that particular pony.

I wish we had more ponies with cute quirks instead of cartoonish insanity. The latter is more entertaining but the former is more endearing. Thistle Whistle's whistling was always cute to me. Or Minty collecting socks other ponies thought of as unimportant and weird.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessNikki on February 01, 2018, 05:42:11 AM
I really really want a reboot. I'm tired of FIM. I used to be obsessed with FIM but for some reason, I stopped loving FIM during the second season. I gave my massive amounts of FIM stuff away, now im exclusively collecting G1 again.

I just want my little pony to go back to being not-so cartoony looking. Something elegant but fun and magical where they actually look like horses.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on February 01, 2018, 05:49:53 AM
I really really want a reboot. I'm tired of FIM.

Believe me, that's not an unpopular opinion here. A lot of us are looking forward to G5 and a possible redesign :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Bebopgroove on February 02, 2018, 10:36:52 AM
I actually think BBE babies are cute. Like their eyes give them that extra charm. Idk  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on February 03, 2018, 04:24:00 PM
Ok, just thought of another unpoular pony opinion of mine...

I think some ponies' symbols are too small (like G1 Hopscotch or G3 Crystal Lake) and a lot of G3 ponies seem to have symbols that are "something and nothing"...if that makes any sense  :lol:

For example, the symbols of G3 Amberlocks, Dazzle Surprise and Garden Glade leave me feeling that they could have been so much more; as if some ponies' symbols don't really do justice to their names.

I much prefer something bold like Shenanigans, Denim Blue or Sapphire Shores...

Just my thoughts anyway...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on February 03, 2018, 10:27:12 PM
Ok, just thought of another unpoular pony opinion of mine...

I think some ponies' symbols are too small (like G1 Hopscotch or G3 Crystal Lake) and a lot of G3 ponies seem to have symbols that are "something and nothing"...if that makes any sense  :lol:

For example, the symbols of G3 Amberlocks, Dazzle Surprise and Garden Glade leave me feeling that they could have been so much more; as if some ponies' symbols don't really do justice to their names.

I much prefer something bold like Shenanigans, Denim Blue or Sapphire Shores...

Just my thoughts anyway...

Yep, very true. A lot of G3s have symbols that just don't do them justice: Sunny Salsa, Blue Mist, Twirlerina, Sew-and-So, and Paradise Palms are some other examples that come to mind. Then there are a ton of G3s where it's like Hasbro just said, "Eh let's just put some flowers or butterflies on that pony's butt," like they struggled with ideas for symbols.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on February 03, 2018, 10:37:21 PM
Yes! I had several white g3 ponies that just had different generic heart symbols or flowers. Those were the first to go when I started thinning out.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Dreamer on February 04, 2018, 05:45:45 AM
I actually like the G3 Donkey pose.

I don't know why, but most of G3's pearly-like bodies do not sit well with me. Maybe it's someting that'll change once I see one by myself, but in photos, they look like faded away.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on February 04, 2018, 08:21:33 AM
I actually like the G3 Donkey pose.

I love the Donkey Pose! It makes the ponies look really excited to me, like they're about to tell you something wonderful! :lol:

I have the goal to get every Donkey Pose pony, they're just so cute.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 04, 2018, 08:24:41 AM
I actually like the G3 Donkey pose.

I love the Donkey Pose! It makes the ponies look really excited to me, like they're about to tell you something wonderful! :lol:

I have the goal to get every Donkey Pose pony, they're just so cute.

I just love that it's known as the donkey pose.

I also sort of agree on the pearly bodies on SOME g3 and not on others. It's a case by case basis for me.

But then I think I see G3 as a case by case basis also these days. I sold about 40 G3 ponies and don't miss any of them, but it doesn't mean I never buy any new G3 ponies. Weird.



Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 04, 2018, 08:45:40 AM
I like some ponies in the donkey pose. Razzaroo, Bubblecup and Toboggan are exceptionally pretty and I would be glad to have them, but the pose bugs me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sparkle Pony on February 04, 2018, 09:24:34 AM
I feel like Minty's only true pose had to be the Donkey pose.  It's perfect for her!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessNikki on February 04, 2018, 08:31:27 PM
I really really want a reboot. I'm tired of FIM.

Believe me, that's not an unpopular opinion here. A lot of us are looking forward to G5 and a possible redesign :)
really? Oh, good. Now that I think about it, Hasn't FIM been around since 2010 or 2011? I'd say thats a great run! I see it everywhere still. It kinda makes me sad to think about children who will be upset at the style change and feel "betrayed" kinda like how I did when G2 came out (i like G2 now)


Also, I agree with the person above. I love the donkey pose. I just really like "facing forward" poses because I feel like they are able to let kids give them their own personality more easily. The ponies like G1 Apple Jack who has a sheepish pose or Milky Way who holds a military tyle triumphant pose I cant see them any other way than that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Luxrayx on February 07, 2018, 08:24:08 AM
Not sure if this is an unpopular opinion or just a pet peeve, but it always bugs me when FiM ponies raise a leg while they're walking.
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Notice how, for a brief moment, the entire body is supported by a single hoof. I realize they want ponies to use human body language, but like, they're ponies? Ponies who need their limbs for walking, not gesturing?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 15, 2018, 07:08:15 AM
I don't like Whistle Wishes or Morning Monarch. Something about their color schemes just annoy me for some reason.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 15, 2018, 07:08:39 AM
Not sure if this is an unpopular opinion or just a pet peeve, but it always bugs me when FiM ponies raise a leg while they're walking.
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Notice how, for a brief moment, the entire body is supported by a single hoof. I realize they want ponies to use human body language, but like, they're ponies? Ponies who need their limbs for walking, not gesturing?

Same here.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Bebopgroove on February 18, 2018, 03:06:39 AM
I don't like the Cutie Mark Crew figures.

There I said it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 18, 2018, 06:58:50 AM
I don't like the new combs. They're not good for brushing. Thw old brushes that were clustered in the middle like a horse brush were always better because they get everything.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 18, 2018, 07:10:08 AM
I don't like the new combs. They're not good for brushing. Thw old brushes that were clustered in the middle like a horse brush were always better because they get everything.

Feeding from that, I like sindy brushes better than pony brushes for brushing pony hair ;) The only pony comb I find useful is the long handled one like those that come with the brush and grows. But I broke one of the romance pony's combs once from doing this once so now I mostly use sindy or generic o.o.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on February 18, 2018, 08:38:48 AM
I don't like the Cutie Mark Crew figures.

There I said it.

I don't either.  I mean they are kinda cute and all.  But I have absolutely no desire to collect them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 18, 2018, 09:16:17 AM
I don't like the Cutie Mark Crew figures.

There I said it.

I don't either.  I mean they are kinda cute and all.  But I have absolutely no desire to collect them.

Thirded.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on February 18, 2018, 09:21:55 AM
The teeth on g1 brushes are too thin and delicate to get out knots.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 18, 2018, 11:10:52 AM
I don't like the Cutie Mark Crew figures.

There I said it.

I don't either.  I mean they are kinda cute and all.  But I have absolutely no desire to collect them.

Thirded.

Fourthed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mlp Sunsparkle on February 18, 2018, 11:13:02 AM
I don't like the Cutie Mark Crew figures.

There I said it.

I don't either.  I mean they are kinda cute and all.  But I have absolutely no desire to collect them.

Thirded.

Fourthed.

Fithed? Is that a word?
 They’re cute, but they just don’t seem like Mlp to me at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 18, 2018, 11:14:18 AM
I don't like the Cutie Mark Crew figures.

There I said it.

I don't either.  I mean they are kinda cute and all.  But I have absolutely no desire to collect them.

Thirded.

Fourthed.

Fithed? Is that a word?
 They’re cute, but they just don’t seem like Mlp to me at all.

Yup.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Miniature Sheep on February 18, 2018, 11:18:21 AM
I don't like the Cutie Mark Crew figures.

There I said it.

I don't either.  I mean they are kinda cute and all.  But I have absolutely no desire to collect them.

Thirded.

Fourthed.

Fithed? Is that a word?
 They’re cute, but they just don’t seem like Mlp to me at all.

Sixthed!
I suspect it's a ploy by Hasbro to try and prime people for how small G5 ponies are going to be... :wonder:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 18, 2018, 11:23:24 AM
I don't like the Cutie Mark Crew figures.

There I said it.

I don't either.  I mean they are kinda cute and all.  But I have absolutely no desire to collect them.

Thirded.

Fourthed.

Fithed? Is that a word?
 They’re cute, but they just don’t seem like Mlp to me at all.

Sixthed!
I suspect it's a ploy by Hasbro to try and prime people for how small G5 ponies are going to be... :wonder:

Maybe we'll need a microscope to see them. Maybe they're already out. Next time you see a gap on shelf? Maybe it's not a gap. Maybe it's just G5 ponies O.O
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cessna 150Chick on February 18, 2018, 11:48:38 AM
LOL I always "identified" with Wind Whistler because she was intelligent, obviously well read, and a leader.
Of all the My Little Ponies of the G1 era, she was the only role model for young girls to think outside the girly box. Wind Whistler wasn't into beauty, dancing, cooking, raising babies, etc - the traditional female roles. She was highly educated and a damn good "pilot" - a STEM career minded pony!

I'm not a fan of the Collector's pose...those ponies to me have a dull expression and zero personality. So Softs ARE creepy, but boy they're fun to deflock... it's like revealing the "true" hidden pony inside!
Why is Munchy such a holy Grail? I remember NOT choosing her several times because her colors were so...70s. Reminded me of my grandma's hideous kitchen LOL
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 18, 2018, 11:53:19 AM
I don't like the Cutie Mark Crew figures.

There I said it.

I don't either.  I mean they are kinda cute and all.  But I have absolutely no desire to collect them.

Thirded.

Fourthed.

Fithed? Is that a word?
 They’re cute, but they just don’t seem like Mlp to me at all.

Sixthed!
I suspect it's a ploy by Hasbro to try and prime people for how small G5 ponies are going to be... :wonder:

Maybe we'll need a microscope to see them. Maybe they're already out. Next time you see a gap on shelf? Maybe it's not a gap. Maybe it's just G5 ponies O.O


 :cry: :yikes:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on February 18, 2018, 11:57:01 AM
G3 is my least favorite gen :blush:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Dreamer on February 18, 2018, 12:06:31 PM
Yet another unpopular opinion: I don't care about Lickety Split. At all. I don't even like her name.

I also don't like Paradise. It's the red hair, I think. Yes, I know, red hair is uncommon on ponies, but... ehh....

And I don't like poses that involve looking very, very up in the sky, like some baby sea ponies and Zig-Zag.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pinkie21 on February 18, 2018, 12:51:30 PM
I don’t like the inclusion of different species.  I didn’t like the bushwoolies and I even disliked flutter ponies in G1, and I don’t like the inclusion of yaks, hippogriffs, etc, in FiM.  I don’t like all these different species in a thing called My Little *Pony*.  Also, I think the friendship school is a dumb idea.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 19, 2018, 02:25:34 PM


I also don't like Paradise.

*faints*

xD

Lickety Split is a funny name. But whenever I hear it I think of that wretched song tape song. Can't help it. My whole family think it too. So whatever it actually means, it's now just a song lyric that fits nicely into the rhythm da-da-da-dum ;)

I still think Chocolate Chip (Coco Berry) is the most terrifying stink bomb Hasbro ever produced.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on February 19, 2018, 02:44:39 PM


I also don't like Paradise.

*faints*

xD

Lickety Split is a funny name. But whenever I hear it I think of that wretched song tape song. Can't help it. My whole family think it too. So whatever it actually means, it's now just a song lyric that fits nicely into the rhythm da-da-da-dum ;)

I still think Chocolate Chip (Coco Berry) is the most terrifying stink bomb Hasbro ever produced.

I've heard lickety split used to mean really fast.  Such as, "I'll get those chores done lickety split."  But it's not something commonly used.  More like really outdated slang.   Then I guess the "split" part got associated with "banana split" and that somehow came around to ice cream?  I don't know.  Maybe someone's kid said "I'm going to eat this ice cream cone lickety split!"  And someone thought, yup, there's an idea for a pony....
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 19, 2018, 02:50:31 PM
Yeah, now you mention it, that meaning is here too. But it's not really to do with ice cream. And Lickety Split's most memorable storybook moment for me was getting stuck in a hedge because she'd eaten too much ice cream. So not very lickety...split...?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on February 19, 2018, 02:51:27 PM
The names, symbols, and powers of a pony don't necessarily have to match up.

On a similar note, I think Lickety Split and Tiddlywinks should have had different shade of hair and/or body, maybe more color on their symbols. They look too alike.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 19, 2018, 03:03:21 PM
Yet another unpopular opinion: I don't care about Lickety Split. At all. I don't even like her name.

I also don't like Paradise. It's the red hair, I think. Yes, I know, red hair is uncommon on ponies, but... ehh....

And I don't like poses that involve looking very, very up in the sky, like some baby sea ponies and Zig-Zag.

She was my least favorite childhood pony. I think she's boring.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 19, 2018, 04:04:41 PM
The names, symbols, and powers of a pony don't necessarily have to match up.

True, but it is a help if they at least make some sense xD. I always thought it had something to do with licking and banana splits which is just a bit...well...odd.

So anyway, moving on...

I like Lickety. I prefer the 1985 earth pony set to the 1984 one. :)<---bound to be unpopular.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 19, 2018, 04:21:14 PM
The names, symbols, and powers of a pony don't necessarily have to match up.

True, but it is a help if they at least make some sense xD. I always thought it had something to do with licking and banana splits which is just a bit...well...odd.

So anyway, moving on...

I like Lickety. I prefer the 1985 earth pony set to the 1984 one. :)<---bound to be unpopular.

I like Tootsie and Posey and to a lesser extent CJ.

I personally am not a set completer, because I don't see the point of buying ponies I don't like, just to have em all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on February 19, 2018, 04:31:37 PM
Same, I'm not a set completer usually, but I can't seem to let go of my 25th anniversary collector pose ponies (a pose I don't even like) because I already have them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on February 19, 2018, 05:28:01 PM


I also don't like Paradise.

*faints*

xD

Lickety Split is a funny name. But whenever I hear it I think of that wretched song tape song. Can't help it. My whole family think it too. So whatever it actually means, it's now just a song lyric that fits nicely into the rhythm da-da-da-dum ;)

I still think Chocolate Chip (Coco Berry) is the most terrifying stink bomb Hasbro ever produced.

I never liked Coco Berry’s backcard story. Even as a child I thought it was weird.

I also dislike Powder pose ponies. I want my ponies to look at me.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on February 21, 2018, 12:11:11 AM
The names, symbols, and powers of a pony don't necessarily have to match up.

True, but it is a help if they at least make some sense xD. I always thought it had something to do with licking and banana splits which is just a bit...well...odd.

So anyway, moving on...

I like Lickety. I prefer the 1985 earth pony set to the 1984 one. :)<---bound to be unpopular.

I like Tootsie and Posey and to a lesser extent CJ.

I personally am not a set completer, because I don't see the point of buying ponies I don't like, just to have em all.

Same here. My collection is such a mishmash of ponies from different G1 and G3 sets. In fact, don't think I have any complete sets at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 21, 2018, 03:37:43 AM
When I was younger sister and I bought every pony we didn't have from carboot sales, irrespective of the condition. We split them between us. We;re still pretty completionist but there are ponies she has that I don't and vice versa. So if it's a pony she already has, I might choose to get it too, but I might not. And vice versa. We both have Twist and Bright Eyes TE and so on, but Naynie has Crumpet and Munchy and I have Buttons and Twilight. I guess my unpopular opinion is that rather than having just my collection, I feel like I'm a partner in three collections - my own, my sister's, and the childhood collection I adopted from my friend when she decided to part with them. Together they make one collection, but can also be enjoyed separately or in smaller groups. And I don't feel any need to get Crumpet or Munchy, even though I'm a completionist at heart, because as far as I'm concerned, the collection already has them. MLP would not be so much fun for me if my sister and I hadn't played together with them from the start.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 21, 2018, 07:45:14 AM
When I was younger sister and I bought every pony we didn't have from carboot sales, irrespective of the condition. We split them between us. We;re still pretty completionist but there are ponies she has that I don't and vice versa. So if it's a pony she already has, I might choose to get it too, but I might not. And vice versa. We both have Twist and Bright Eyes TE and so on, but Naynie has Crumpet and Munchy and I have Buttons and Twilight. I guess my unpopular opinion is that rather than having just my collection, I feel like I'm a partner in three collections - my own, my sister's, and the childhood collection I adopted from my friend when she decided to part with them. Together they make one collection, but can also be enjoyed separately or in smaller groups. And I don't feel any need to get Crumpet or Munchy, even though I'm a completionist at heart, because as far as I'm concerned, the collection already has them. MLP would not be so much fun for me if my sister and I hadn't played together with them from the start.

I think that's awesome and unique to be honest.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on February 21, 2018, 09:41:57 AM
I'm kind of the same way. With g3 ponies as a ki, my sister and I had a few of the same ponies, but with g1 ponies, if she had a pony, I didn't need it. She gave me all but 4 of her G1s and it feels weird to have them since they were HER childhood ponies, but she as Medley, Baby Paws, Spike, and Baby Northstar, so I don't want my own of them. Also, since we together have all of the storebought year 1 g3 ponies, that's close enough for mem
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SwirlyWhirly on February 22, 2018, 06:58:27 AM
I only like G1 ponies. I kind of hate the rest. I think I might be old and too set in my ways to accept anything which doesn't look like the ponies of my childhood. :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 22, 2018, 08:12:31 AM
I hate braiding hair. I like long, flowing hair. I mean, small braids are fun to do, but braiding tails or manes is a last resort neccesity for me, because it means the hair refuses to be managed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessNikki on February 22, 2018, 09:00:17 AM
I don’t like the inclusion of yaks, hippogriffs, etc, in FiM.  I don’t like all these different species in a thing called My Little *Pony*.

I agree. But for me, I would much rather them have sea ponies and flutter ponies in FIM instead of other species.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SwirlyWhirly on February 22, 2018, 11:42:05 PM
I hate braiding hair. I like long, flowing hair. I mean, small braids are fun to do, but braiding tails or manes is a last resort neccesity for me, because it means the hair refuses to be managed.

I hear ya. I think braided hair on MLPs looks like a kid has played with the pony rather than a piece of a collection to display and care for.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 23, 2018, 04:54:00 AM
I hate braiding hair. I like long, flowing hair. I mean, small braids are fun to do, but braiding tails or manes is a last resort neccesity for me, because it means the hair refuses to be managed.

I hear ya. I think braided hair on MLPs looks like a kid has played with the pony rather than a piece of a collection to display and care for.

I braid. Thus far all of my ponies who have experienced braiding have lived to tell the tale ;) but it does kink the hair. Mind you, I have a picture from a Hasbro catalogue where Brilliant Blossoms has clearly had her hair braided and then brushed loose. And she's the display model for the photographs. So if it's good enough for Hasbro...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 23, 2018, 06:58:51 AM
I hate braiding hair. I like long, flowing hair. I mean, small braids are fun to do, but braiding tails or manes is a last resort neccesity for me, because it means the hair refuses to be managed.

I hear ya. I think braided hair on MLPs looks like a kid has played with the pony rather than a piece of a collection to display and care for.

I braid. Thus far all of my ponies who have experienced braiding have lived to tell the tale ;) but it does kink the hair. Mind you, I have a picture from a Hasbro catalogue where Brilliant Blossoms has clearly had her hair braided and then brushed loose. And she's the display model for the photographs. So if it's good enough for Hasbro...

To each their own. I recently had to braid Rainbowdash's tail because her hair is this dry, ratty, thin mess that looks awful even after being brushed.

Sapphire's mane is soft and silky but I swear it gets crazy flyaways shortly after I brush it.

That and I have this model horse whose frizz was so awful. Like I swear I could see it crawling up his tail after a long conditioning and brushing treatment, that he had to have it trimmed, which didn't help and finally braided. On the bright side, it matches his mane.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lockette on February 27, 2018, 07:59:16 PM
I hate braiding hair. I like long, flowing hair. I mean, small braids are fun to do, but braiding tails or manes is a last resort neccesity for me, because it means the hair refuses to be managed.

I hear ya. I think braided hair on MLPs looks like a kid has played with the pony rather than a piece of a collection to display and care for.

oh my god yes. every now and then I'll put a braid in a pony but... tbh I can't remember the last time I did...... I like my ponies to have swirly soft curls in their tails and mane!


I confess: I don't like outer-space themed ponies. I mean I DO but, it's not a preference. Night Glider, Star Hopper, Moonstone.... all those planet and UFO symbols are not my fav.  but they're some of the most popular ponies!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 27, 2018, 09:51:40 PM
I don't really care for Dream Castle as a playset. Though that one customizer who did hers up for the night ponies was amazing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on February 28, 2018, 12:46:07 AM
I don't really care for Dream Castle as a playset. Though that one customizer who did hers up for the night ponies was amazing.

I never cared much for any of the playsets. I know this will sound funny to a lot of people, but I've always felt all the MLP playsets (at least for G1 & G3) are just too small. I've never seen the playsets in person, but by looking at pictures it doesn't look Dream Castle or Paradise Estate would accommodate more than a few ponies. I'd love to hear how many adult ponies fit in these playsets from those who have them. 

Even if Hasbro had cut back on playset accessories to focus on just making the playsets bigger, that would have been preferable.

I know it may not have been logistical due to costs, space, etc.... But then again even a massive cardboard castle that could have been folded/disassembled would have been cool.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RoseNoire on February 28, 2018, 01:02:00 AM
I don't really care for Dream Castle as a playset. Though that one customizer who did hers up for the night ponies was amazing.

I never cared much for any of the playsets. I know this will sound funny to a lot of people, but I've always felt all the MLP playsets (at least for G1 & G3) are just too small. I've never seen the playsets in person, but by looking at pictures it doesn't look Dream Castle or Paradise Estate would accommodate more than a few ponies. I'd love to hear how many adult ponies fit in these playsets from those who have them. 

Even if Hasbro had cut back on playset accessories to focus on just making the playsets bigger, that would have been preferable.

I know it may not have been logistical due to costs, space, etc.... But then again even a massive cardboard castle that could have been folded/disassembled would have been cool.

I've never seen Dream Castle in person, but Paradise Estate is fairly big in my opinion. I only have one third of it and it's really possible to insert a bunch of ponies in it. =D
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Anyway, is that an unpopular opinion not to like the G3 Core poses ? I can't tell why, but they look off to me. =/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Miniature Sheep on February 28, 2018, 04:42:51 AM
Anyway, is that an unpopular opinion not to like the G3 Core poses ? I can't tell why, but they look off to me. =/

I'm not keen on the core G3 pose either; horse anatomy is not one of my strong points knowledge-wise but their front legs look kind of painful. Not sure if they are actually too far forward or not but they do look uncomfortable! D:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on February 28, 2018, 04:50:56 AM
I feel this way about the Glory and Moondancer poses. They look like they are not as defined as the other official G1 poses, kinda like dough. I love Sunbeam's colors but on that mold she looks like a baby elephant.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Reena on February 28, 2018, 04:52:07 AM
I just don't like G2 or G4 ponies, although I somehow appear to have quite a few G4's these days. I don't like them much, but I can't seem to leave them if I see them in charity shops...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on February 28, 2018, 06:36:41 AM
I just don't like G2 or G4 ponies, although I somehow appear to have quite a few G4's these days. I don't like them much, but I can't seem to leave them if I see them in charity shops...

Why not sell them to collectors who like them?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on February 28, 2018, 09:27:32 AM
I don't really care for Dream Castle as a playset. Though that one customizer who did hers up for the night ponies was amazing.

I never cared much for any of the playsets. I know this will sound funny to a lot of people, but I've always felt all the MLP playsets (at least for G1 & G3) are just too small. I've never seen the playsets in person, but by looking at pictures it doesn't look Dream Castle or Paradise Estate would accommodate more than a few ponies. I'd love to hear how many adult ponies fit in these playsets from those who have them. 

Even if Hasbro had cut back on playset accessories to focus on just making the playsets bigger, that would have been preferable.

I know it may not have been logistical due to costs, space, etc.... But then again even a massive cardboard castle that could have been folded/disassembled would have been cool.
G3 playsets were plenty big for me as a kid. Celebration Castle could hold 18 ponies easily, and it took up a great deal of room in my bedroom, which was in an apartment and shared with my sister.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Reena on February 28, 2018, 09:32:52 AM
I just don't like G2 or G4 ponies, although I somehow appear to have quite a few G4's these days. I don't like them much, but I can't seem to leave them if I see them in charity shops...

Why not sell them to collectors who like them?
Not sure they are in good enough condition to be honest.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on February 28, 2018, 12:09:06 PM
I just don't like G2 or G4 ponies, although I somehow appear to have quite a few G4's these days. I don't like them much, but I can't seem to leave them if I see them in charity shops...

Why not sell them to collectors who like them?
Not sure they are in good enough condition to be honest.

Some G4s are rare or sought after so it's always worth a try.
I sometimes do this with G2s. I find them, clean them and then I release them  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on February 28, 2018, 02:16:06 PM
I've never seen Dream Castle in person, but Paradise Estate is fairly big in my opinion. I only have one third of it and it's really possible to insert a bunch of ponies in it. =D
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G3 playsets were plenty big for me as a kid. Celebration Castle could hold 18 ponies easily, and it took up a great deal of room in my bedroom, which was in an apartment and shared with my sister.

Hmmmm... Maybe they just look small to me because I've never seen them in person, and usually when I see photos of them they're of just the playsets themselves without any ponies inside to get a feel for capacity. Now I suddenly want those playsets :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 28, 2018, 02:19:28 PM
Our attic would have the opinion they're too big. Especially that castle. :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on February 28, 2018, 03:03:54 PM
I've never seen Dream Castle in person, but Paradise Estate is fairly big in my opinion. I only have one third of it and it's really possible to insert a bunch of ponies in it. =D
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G3 playsets were plenty big for me as a kid. Celebration Castle could hold 18 ponies easily, and it took up a great deal of room in my bedroom, which was in an apartment and shared with my sister.

Hmmmm... Maybe they just look small to me because I've never seen them in person, and usually when I see photos of them they're of just the playsets themselves without any ponies inside to get a feel for capacity. Now I suddenly want those playsets :)

G3's Crystal Rainbow Castle is pretty huge! I had to reorganize my entire pony collection when I thrifted it to make room for it! I use it to display my favorite G3s that I have, here's what it looks like with a bunch of ponies on/surrounding it in my display:

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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 28, 2018, 05:35:03 PM
I've never seen Dream Castle in person, but Paradise Estate is fairly big in my opinion. I only have one third of it and it's really possible to insert a bunch of ponies in it. =D
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G3 playsets were plenty big for me as a kid. Celebration Castle could hold 18 ponies easily, and it took up a great deal of room in my bedroom, which was in an apartment and shared with my sister.

Hmmmm... Maybe they just look small to me because I've never seen them in person, and usually when I see photos of them they're of just the playsets themselves without any ponies inside to get a feel for capacity. Now I suddenly want those playsets :)

G3's Crystal Rainbow Castle is pretty huge! I had to reorganize my entire pony collection when I thrifted it to make room for it! I use it to display my favorite G3s that I have, here's what it looks like with a bunch of ponies on/surrounding it in my display:

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It is big!

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I love Baby Flurryheart. She is freaking adorable!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 04, 2018, 07:01:33 AM
It bugs me that some fans can't wrap their brain around the fact that older ponies don't earn their symbols. They simply have them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MerryAnvil on April 06, 2018, 09:21:31 AM
Ooh! Hmm...

I love BBEs. Like....I really love them. I think they're super adorable.

I adore the G3 movies. Partially because I grew up with them, I suppose, but I will still watch them occasionally. I'm well aware that the animation is terrible but I love them anyways ♡

I like the way some Nirvanas look but I don't think I'd go out of my way to get one, to be honest.

If G2s had lasted longer in the US, I guarantee they would have been my favorite gen aside from G1 and I would have grown up with them. I love everything about them.

I love G3 way more than G4. FiM is a great series but I just can't get into the style enough to collect that many of the actual ponies. With the exception of the males, they seem to have lost a lot of the equine appearance of the older gens that I adored. They kinda remind me more of deer than ponies now, hehe.

And lastly, I don't understand why a portion of the teen/adult G4 fandom either a) somehow doesn't know that there are older generations that were just as good and important or b) feel the need to make fun of them, especially in terms of the origins of the Mane 6 designs. I get it, you love FiM and the characters in it. But pretending they didn't exist before G4 is kind of silly because you can clearly see they did. Hasbro has always recycled names, designs, and personalities from one gen to the next, and G4 is no exception.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on April 07, 2018, 02:30:26 AM
It bugs me that some fans can't wrap their brain around the fact that older ponies don't earn their symbols. They simply have them.

That's why I find it annoying when newer fans mock G1 babies for having baby-themed symbols. G1 babies came in so many forms. Some are born, some are created from mirrors as the spitting image of a childless pony, some look exactly like their parents. So what.

When I was a kid I simply assumed the symbols could change over time and adjust to what the ponies enjoyed (like mood rings, lol).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 07, 2018, 05:12:46 AM
It bugs me that some fans can't wrap their brain around the fact that older ponies don't earn their symbols. They simply have them.

That's why I find it annoying when newer fans mock G1 babies for having baby-themed symbols. G1 babies came in so many forms. Some are born, some are created from mirrors as the spitting image of a childless pony, some look exactly like their parents. So what.

When I was a kid I simply assumed the symbols could change over time and adjust to what the ponies enjoyed (like mood rings, lol).

The difference between G1 baby ponies/symbols/etc and G4 is conformity. G4 bothered to make a rule about it, and G1 didn't.

The mocking is actually revealing about the fandom itself. If a person goes out of their way to make fun of something/someone else, especially unprovoked, it means they're not entirely secure in themselves and what they believe. While it's annoying, I mostly feel sorry for the people who feel the need to behave like that. There are plenty of G4 fans who don't, and they're the ones I hope will stick around after G4 ends.

I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion or not, but as time goes on and G4 begins to fade a little, I feel like dividing MLP into generations needs to go back to being just a way to identify lines, and not a way to create factions. I love my G1 ponies. They're absolutely the core of my collection. But I have G2, G3 and G4 as well and I like them just fine too. I realise the faction thing didn't begin here, but I was never a fan of the tribal mentality with G1 and G2 and I'm still not now.

I love seeing kids in the town centre with pony purses or pony dresses or pony bags -or the cutest thing is seeing a child of about three clutching a BAB plushie and it's almost as big as they are. I like seeing kids enjoy MLP, whether it's G1 or G4 or whatever it might be. I generally am over the brony insecurity complex thing now. There's room for four generations (and a half) of ponies and I dare say there'll be room for G5 as well, so long as the kids don't abandon it :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SwirlyWhirly on April 07, 2018, 06:38:52 AM
People mocking G1 symbols and G1 in general is taking things waaay too seriously. It's a toy! Made for children! :lol: I think some of the newer fans do this maybe because they discovered MLP as adults and not kids. They interpret and analyze all things MLP with an adult mind while we who played with ponies as kids, at least I, fondly remember the fun of that and don't mind that the story behind the toy isn't perfect. The MLP story evolved over 35 years time and that's it.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Esbayne on April 07, 2018, 06:41:16 AM
It bugs me that some fans can't wrap their brain around the fact that older ponies don't earn their symbols. They simply have them.

That's why I find it annoying when newer fans mock G1 babies for having baby-themed symbols. G1 babies came in so many forms. Some are born, some are created from mirrors as the spitting image of a childless pony, some look exactly like their parents. So what.

When I was a kid I simply assumed the symbols could change over time and adjust to what the ponies enjoyed (like mood rings, lol).

The difference between G1 baby ponies/symbols/etc and G4 is conformity. G4 bothered to make a rule about it, and G1 didn't.

The mocking is actually revealing about the fandom itself. If a person goes out of their way to make fun of something/someone else, especially unprovoked, it means they're not entirely secure in themselves and what they believe. While it's annoying, I mostly feel sorry for the people who feel the need to behave like that. There are plenty of G4 fans who don't, and they're the ones I hope will stick around after G4 ends.

I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion or not, but as time goes on and G4 begins to fade a little, I feel like dividing MLP into generations needs to go back to being just a way to identify lines, and not a way to create factions. I love my G1 ponies. They're absolutely the core of my collection. But I have G2, G3 and G4 as well and I like them just fine too. I realise the faction thing didn't begin here, but I was never a fan of the tribal mentality with G1 and G2 and I'm still not now.

I love seeing kids in the town centre with pony purses or pony dresses or pony bags -or seeing a child of about three clutching a BAB plushie and it's almost as big as they are. I like seeing kids enjoy MLP, whether it's G1 or G4 or whatever it might be. I generally am over the brony insecurity complex thing now. There's room for four generations (and a half) of ponies and I dare say there'll be room for G5 as well, so long as the kids don't abandon it :)

People mocking G1 symbols and G1 in general is taking things waaay too seriously. It's a toy! Made for children! :lol: I think some of the newer fans do this maybe because they discovered MLP as adults and not kids. They interpret and analyze all things MLP with an adult mind while we who played with ponies as kids, at least I, fondly remember the fun of that and don't mind that the story behind the toy isn't perfect. The MLP story evolved over 35 years time and that's it.



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Allll of this exactly. They're rainbow toy fantasy ponies, fighting about them is beyond silly. They're something that is supposed to be fun in our lives, I dunno how some people manage to suck the fun out of it for themselves like they do.

I'm not big on some gens, like 3.5 which I don't like at all or 4 that I'm "ho hum" on, but so what? Others do and that's great, more to em! It's cool that there are so many different ponies to where we can all be collectors but still all have entirely different tastes and collections entirely. That's rad.
There will never be a "best" generation- doesn't matter what gen you think is best, fact is- it's not. Your opinion is that it's the best, and that's A-OK. But, factually, it will never be the best. Arguments about these kind of things will never be ended, are silly, and go on in circles for eternity, which doesn't do anything but harm the pony community by making everyone look argumentative and aggressive. (and the REAL fact is, -all- ponies, in general, are best. So.)

I feel like the people who throw the biggest fits about these kinds of things, like "what gen is best," or what "!!has to be show accurate!!" will either continue to do all this until they eventually suck all the fun out of the entire thing for themselves and leave entirely (maybe partially because everyone else is being a fun-sucker too), or learn to be more open minded and branch out and truly enjoy the hobby, and join us. ( XD )
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on April 07, 2018, 12:36:10 PM
With G1 I always wondered what happened when the babies grew up.  Were there just two of Heartthrob, or did they still refer to her daughter as Baby Heartthrob?  And what happened when she had a baby?  Were there just three Heartthrobs running around?  Near the end of G1 with the newborns/newborn twin sets that weren't specifically assigned to an adult they sort of fixed this issue but I still wondered what happened when the original babies finally grew up.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 07, 2018, 12:42:53 PM
With G1 I always wondered what happened when the babies grew up.  Were there just two of Heartthrob, or did they still refer to her daughter as Baby Heartthrob?  And what happened when she had a baby?  Were there just three Heartthrobs running around?  Near the end of G1 with the newborns/newborn twin sets that weren't specifically assigned to an adult they sort of fixed this issue but I still wondered what happened when the original babies finally grew up.

It's probably no different then taking on a passed down name. Example: I'm named after my Great Great Grandma.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: YasuSuga on April 10, 2018, 01:16:59 PM
Same with Rapunzel, I don't like her colors at all, or not very much about that pony. I think the hype about her is only because the fact that she is a rare pony.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 10, 2018, 02:18:23 PM
Same with Rapunzel, I don't like her colors at all, or not very much about that pony. I think the hype about her is only because the fact that she is a rare pony.

Sweet Scoops >>>> Rapunzel. *Nods*.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: pikkupapupata on April 10, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
I'm not sure how many people share this with me, but I don't like the Piggy ponies and don't understand the attraction and high value.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 10, 2018, 04:13:14 PM
I'm not sure how many people share this with me, but I don't like the Piggy ponies and don't understand the attraction and high value.  :shrug:

Seconded :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 10, 2018, 04:35:17 PM
I like ReUnicorno better then Majesty.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: pikkupapupata on April 10, 2018, 06:07:08 PM
I'm not sure how many people share this with me, but I don't like the Piggy ponies and don't understand the attraction and high value.  :shrug:

Seconded :D

 :thumb:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 11, 2018, 05:55:19 AM
I like ReUnicorno better then Majesty.

I do, too :)

They do look awfully cute together, though.
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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Bewilderbeast on April 11, 2018, 06:23:16 AM
I get really annoyed when people bid on pony auctions days before they're due to be over. That doesn't help you get the item at all. The important part of bidding is in the last minute.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 11, 2018, 07:10:38 AM
I like ReUnicorno better then Majesty.

I do, too :)

They do look awfully cute together, though.
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Carrehz he is absolutely stunning!  :stunned: :faint: and baby majesty is cute.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PoserBeachball on April 11, 2018, 12:48:16 PM
I get really annoyed when people bid on pony auctions days before they're due to be over. That doesn't help you get the item at all. The important part of bidding is in the last minute.

I find this an incredibly useful tool for on-line auctions. I am surprised that it annoys anybody.

I (and many many other people) can't always be around a computer when something I'd like is about to finish so, decide on the maximum I'm willing to pay, make the bid and then come back to find out the result when I can. Some you win, some you don't - but that's how it goes....................
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: cookifaa on April 11, 2018, 01:18:16 PM
I have a few!

I really really don't like the G4 toys. I love the movie and the tv series, but the toys? I don't know, they just look too skinny, unrealistic and awkward especially to me, someone who grew up with the chunky, more horse-like ponies from G1 and G3.

I love green ponies, I think they're really underrated.

I love collecting the brushes and ribbons for ponies i do and don't have. People never seem to want the accessories, but to me ponies are worth more when they have their stuff?

I'm not too keen on the Big Brother ponies or the Mountain Boy ponies, I mean I'd buy them if I saw them at a carboot, but I wouldn't go out my way to bid on one.

I don't really like G2 for the same reason I don't like G4. I have a few of them, and my first ever ponies were G2, but again I don't go out my way to buy them.

I can't think of anymore at the moment..
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 11, 2018, 05:08:51 PM
I think green and yellow ponies are generally the ones that command the highest prices, so I am not sure they are underrated...xD

Re the snipe vs the proxy bid. Ultimately it doesn't matter which method you use if you are putting in the max you want to pay whenever you bid. If the auction goes above your bid then you should bow out really.

I am not a fan of automatic snipe programs. I often bid a little before the end and then turn the PC off and go do something else so I don't get caught in a bidding war. If I win I do, if not, then oh well. I don't do automatic sniping. For me that's more annoying than people bidding ages before the auction ends. I sometimes put low bids on items I want to bid on later so I get proper reminders from ebay, as Ebay fails often to remind me of watchlist items ending, but always reminds me of things I've been outbid on.

Over 20 years of using ebay, though, the people I don't understand are the ones who bid much more than a pony is realistically worth because they get caught up in hype. I don't mind when people bid, not really, but if I see a faded Posey going for £30 for no apparent reason, then I have to wonder about the bidders involved.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Stellaluna on April 11, 2018, 05:59:30 PM
I don't really like any early G3's that are "blue". Maybe I'm colorblind, but it just looks like an ugly grey to me.

I DO like all the G1 animal friends, even if they're not ponies and it doesn't make any sense for dinosaurs or elephants to have hair.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: poniesthatsparkle on April 12, 2018, 01:07:59 PM
I mentioned this on Instagram at some point and lots of people didn't take it very well so I guess it deserves to be here.

I absolutely hate G2 Miss Painter.

I love art related ponies. I really do. But this pony has a terrible color scheme. She's too bright, and I don't like how her colors mix. As much as I love her theme, I don't like her enough to actually own her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 12, 2018, 02:21:42 PM
I like ReUnicorno better then Majesty.

I do, too :)

They do look awfully cute together, though.
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Carrehz he is absolutely stunning!  :stunned: :faint: and baby majesty is cute.

Thanks! :) Sunshine made Baby Majesty, I love her customs.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: cookifaa on April 12, 2018, 03:26:01 PM
I think green and yellow ponies are generally the ones that command the highest prices, so I am not sure they are underrated...xD

Re the snipe vs the proxy bid. Ultimately it doesn't matter which method you use if you are putting in the max you want to pay whenever you bid. If the auction goes above your bid then you should bow out really.

I am not a fan of automatic snipe programs. I often bid a little before the end and then turn the PC off and go do something else so I don't get caught in a bidding war. If I win I do, if not, then oh well. I don't do automatic sniping. For me that's more annoying than people bidding ages before the auction ends. I sometimes put low bids on items I want to bid on later so I get proper reminders from ebay, as Ebay fails often to remind me of watchlist items ending, but always reminds me of things I've been outbid on.

Over 20 years of using ebay, though, the people I don't understand are the ones who bid much more than a pony is realistically worth because they get caught up in hype. I don't mind when people bid, not really, but if I see a faded Posey going for £30 for no apparent reason, then I have to wonder about the bidders involved.

I'm guilty of sniping, oops. I only snipe if it is a pony I'm desperate for.
When I was on my quest for Gusty, I sniped with 4 seconds to go with a £12.02 bid, at the last second, it went up to that £12.02. I basically won gusty by 2p with a second to go! Although, I'm not a fan of eBay's automatic bid, but it comes in handy sometimes.

I also once saw one of the really common ponies going for a ridiculous price. I can't remember who it was but it was one of the ones you see everyday as a new listing and I was shocked to say the least! I found it hilarious that there was a bidding war on a pony that was all over eBay.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 12, 2018, 03:28:58 PM
Perhaps I'm a cynic after so many years, but I tend to assume such bidding wars are actually shilling >.>

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: vampyrefay on April 12, 2018, 04:20:57 PM
I don't like mimic or rapunzel
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessNikki on April 13, 2018, 09:38:11 AM
wait...what is a "piggy" pony??
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MerryAnvil on April 13, 2018, 09:51:50 AM
wait...what is a "piggy" pony??

http://mlparena.com/archive/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=228066 (http://mlparena.com/archive/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=228066)

They're Nirvana ponies from Spain.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessNikki on April 13, 2018, 10:02:38 AM
wait...what is a "piggy" pony??

http://mlparena.com/archive/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=228066 (http://mlparena.com/archive/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=228066)

They're Nirvana ponies from Spain.

oh...oh my gOD!! i am LAUGHING

I like Algodoncete's colors and symbol though. It's like a rain storm.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on April 13, 2018, 11:17:20 AM
I like the gen 3 rainy day outfit, even if it is all plastic, I like how it looks and feels.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 13, 2018, 11:33:20 AM
I like the gen 3 rainy day outfit, even if it is all plastic, I like how it looks and feels.

I didn't know gen 3 had a rainy day outfit? Where can I find pictures of that?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: pikkupapupata on April 13, 2018, 11:40:44 AM
wait...what is a "piggy" pony??

http://mlparena.com/archive/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=228066 (http://mlparena.com/archive/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=228066)

They're Nirvana ponies from Spain.

oh...oh my gOD!! i am LAUGHING

I like Algodoncete's colors and symbol though. It's like a rain storm.

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I almost liked them when I saw this photo on Pinterest (I didn't know that their eyes open and close), but I realised that I just thought that the photo was very sweet. I see other pictures of them, and I may like a colour scheme or a name or a symbol, but overall, they are just not for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 13, 2018, 11:41:46 AM
wait...what is a "piggy" pony??

http://mlparena.com/archive/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=228066 (http://mlparena.com/archive/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=228066)

They're Nirvana ponies from Spain.

oh...oh my gOD!! i am LAUGHING

I like Algodoncete's colors and symbol though. It's like a rain storm.

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I almost liked them when I saw this photo on Pinterest (I didn't know that their eyes open and close), but I realised that I just thought that the photo was very sweet. I see other pictures of them, and I may like a colour scheme or a name or a symbol, but overall, they are just not for me.

Yeah, I'm not all that fond of em myself. That is a very cute piccy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mlp Sunsparkle on April 13, 2018, 12:02:06 PM
I like the gen 3 rainy day outfit, even if it is all plastic, I like how it looks and feels.

I didn't know gen 3 had a rainy day outfit? Where can I find pictures of that?

I think it’s sweet too! It’s a little tough as it’s plastic, and the holes in the hat are quite sharp on mine xD, but it’s so cute on them!
There were 3 versions of it, here are some links:
Sunset Sweety: http://www.strawberryreef.com/Index/Release/teapartysets.html (scroll down until you find ponyville tea party, she’s in blue)
Star Swirl: (the original and most common one)
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/G3_Star_Swirl
Pick a lily:
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Pick-a-Lilly_and_Sunny_Salsa#Pick-a-Lilly

Some of my unpopular opinions are:
- Butter Kiss has a strange pose, was it used for anyone else? And was it a re make of another’s pose? She’s always looked a bit off to me.
- Another is that I like g3.5s, they have so much hair, and it’s so soft!
- I’m tired of the toys being based off of the show, it seems like Mlp has gone from a toy line to a cartoon with merchandise.
- Ponies with printed on glasses! Gah! The BAB DJ and FS photo finish don’t have them stamped on, so we know they have eyes!
- the names for some of the blind bags are getting more strange by the wave! I like to have a giggle when I see them in the shops  :P
Mlp Sunsparkle x

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 13, 2018, 12:13:57 PM
I think Butter Kiss is meant to be a remake of the Collector Pose. It's unique to her and yes, it's weird and goofy. xD

I think I only have Picalilly's raincoat. I agree, though. I like them. They're cute. Weird. But cute. Storing it was a pain, though. I didn't want to store it on her when I put them away in the box, so it's wrapped separately, but I am worried about it getting crushed. I knew about Starswirl's but I didn't know Sunset Sweety had one too...

Totally with you on the toy line/show shifting dynamic. I want a toy line, not something thrown together to keep a cartoon with questionable values on screens.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 13, 2018, 12:30:10 PM
I like the gen 3 rainy day outfit, even if it is all plastic, I like how it looks and feels.

I didn't know gen 3 had a rainy day outfit? Where can I find pictures of that?

I think it’s sweet too! It’s a little tough as it’s plastic, and the holes in the hat are quite sharp on mine xD, but it’s so cute on them!
There were 3 versions of it, here are some links:
Sunset Sweety: http://www.strawberryreef.com/Index/Release/teapartysets.html (scroll down until you find ponyville tea party, she’s in blue)
Star Swirl: (the original and most common one)
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/G3_Star_Swirl
Pick a lily:
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Pick-a-Lilly_and_Sunny_Salsa#Pick-a-Lilly

Some of my unpopular opinions are:
- Butter Kiss has a strange pose, was it used for anyone else? And was it a re make of another’s pose? She’s always looked a bit off to me.
- Another is that I like g3.5s, they have so much hair, and it’s so soft!
- I’m tired of the toys being based off of the show, it seems like Mlp has gone from a toy line to a cartoon with merchandise.
- Ponies with printed on glasses! Gah! The BAB DJ and FS photo finish don’t have them stamped on, so we know they have eyes!
- the names for some of the blind bags are getting more strange by the wave! I like to have a giggle when I see them in the shops  :P
Mlp Sunsparkle x

How cute! Thank you Sunsparkle.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MerryAnvil on April 13, 2018, 12:55:57 PM
Seconded with the rainy day sets, I love them so much!

There was also a raincoat in the Disney Build-A-Pony thing too!

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They have Disney princesses on them. The one above is mine, they're super cute!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 13, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
- Ponies with printed on glasses! Gah! The BAB DJ and FS photo finish don’t have them stamped on, so we know they have eyes!
- the names for some of the blind bags are getting more strange by the wave! I like to have a giggle when I see them in the shops  :P
Mlp Sunsparkle x

yessssssss to both of these!! The printed-on glasses (and accessories in general - like Silver Spoon's necklace, etc) drive me nuts, it's so cheap and lazy. Plus it just looks bad since the glasses don't even fit the mold (if that makes sense.. idk about Photo Finish but at least with DJ, you can see the indents where her eyes 'should' go, since they just used the normal unicorn headmold instead of making a new one). Ugh. Honestly I'd rather they have NO glasses than printed-on ones.

and oh gosh the blind bag names XDD I know there's always been some not-that-great names but some of the latest ones.. did they get a new guy to name them or have they finally gone off the deep end?!? :silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 13, 2018, 03:46:53 PM
I've long since thought they were inspired by paint colour sample sheets.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on April 13, 2018, 04:25:59 PM
I've long since thought they were inspired by paint colour sample sheets.
I would probably believe someone if they said that was true.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 13, 2018, 04:37:25 PM
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion or not, but I don't understand when people buy a pony then come to the forum to PC it. I'm saying this now so nobody feels attacked as nobody is doing it right at the moment xD but I've never understood it. I mean, if you paid an amount for an item, and were happy with that amount, and you aren't going to sell it, why do you need to know it's 'value'?

In short, I don't understand collecting ponies in regards to their 'value'. I understand collecting ponies according to what you like, can afford, and are happy paying ;) Price checks surely only come into the equation when you want/need to sell something..? The likelihood of lumps of deteriorating plastic holding long term investment value is unlikely so buying ponies should be driven by interest first and financial aspects later. Unless, of course, it's for insurance purposes.

Maybe I'm just too old school, but it makes me sad when people buy an item THEN ask for a PC.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Bewilderbeast on April 14, 2018, 03:47:52 AM
Re the snipe vs the proxy bid. Ultimately it doesn't matter which method you use if you are putting in the max you want to pay whenever you bid. If the auction goes above your bid then you should bow out really.

I am not a fan of automatic snipe programs. I often bid a little before the end and then turn the PC off and go do something else so I don't get caught in a bidding war. If I win I do, if not, then oh well. I don't do automatic sniping. For me that's more annoying than people bidding ages before the auction ends. I sometimes put low bids on items I want to bid on later so I get proper reminders from ebay, as Ebay fails often to remind me of watchlist items ending, but always reminds me of things I've been outbid on.

Over 20 years of using ebay, though, the people I don't understand are the ones who bid much more than a pony is realistically worth because they get caught up in hype. I don't mind when people bid, not really, but if I see a faded Posey going for £30 for no apparent reason, then I have to wonder about the bidders involved.

It's more that a pony will end up going way way higher than is its actual value because people keep bidding on it before it's actually savvy to do so. If the auction ends in 5 days, wait until the day before or something. Idk, it makes more sense to me, but someone did mention shilling so that could be a likely thing as well.

I refuse to pay more than I think a pony is worth. I ignore plenty of auctions, I guess I'm just a bit salty.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpookyTrees on April 14, 2018, 04:16:39 AM

Totally with you on the toy line/show shifting dynamic. I want a toy line, not something thrown together to keep a cartoon with questionable values on screens.

This sums up exactly how I feel about G4. Perfectly said.

My unpopular pony opinions - I LOVE the collectors pose! I think it is a very sweet and soulful pose (if that makes sense!)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Bewilderbeast on April 14, 2018, 11:32:22 AM
My unpopular pony opinions - I LOVE the collectors pose! I think it is a very sweet and soulful pose (if that makes sense!)

When I was a child I felt the collector's pose was sort of droppy and so all the collector pose ponies I had were Grandma Ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpookyTrees on April 14, 2018, 01:24:16 PM
My unpopular pony opinions - I LOVE the collectors pose! I think it is a very sweet and soulful pose (if that makes sense!)

When I was a child I felt the collector's pose was sort of droppy and so all the collector pose ponies I had were Grandma Ponies.

That’s so funny! I can kind of see what you mean though! They always reminded me of this scene in the animated Chwrlotte’s Web I saw in grade 4 (80’s version). Plus they were my first ponies so they are perfection in my eyes!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on April 14, 2018, 08:32:09 PM
My unpopular pony opinions - I LOVE the collectors pose! I think it is a very sweet and soulful pose (if that makes sense!)

When I was a child I felt the collector's pose was sort of droppy and so all the collector pose ponies I had were Grandma Ponies.

I can totally see that. G1 adults look like 30 year old women to me anyway, so my sitting pony (Seashell) was the middle aged older mom/younger grandma.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: pikkupapupata on April 14, 2018, 08:39:09 PM
I've never been a huge fan of the 'Tootsie pose', but I think a lot of people like it and favour it. I only just recently got Cherries Jubilee, the only one I have in this pose, because I don't like it so much. It seems awkward somehow. :wonder:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 14, 2018, 11:41:23 PM
I've never been a huge fan of the 'Tootsie pose', but I think a lot of people like it and favour it. I only just recently got Cherries Jubilee, the only one I have in this pose, because I don't like it so much. It seems awkward somehow. :wonder:

As a kid I hated this pose. I had Snowflake and Cherries Jubilee and I wasn't always nice to them. They also got to be stand in boy ponies when I needed more than the three I had for a game or something. But when I was about 8 or 9 I decided to start writing stories about Magic Star and I actively chose to make Cherries Jubilee her best friend because I wanted to like the pony more. It worked. The pose is goofy, but now I don't mind it - though I think part of that was because I knew that here in the UK, Magic Star (with whom I was a bit obsessed at the time) was also in that pose.

The weird thing is that now to me that's normal for Magic Star. So my unpopular opinion is that I don't like Magic Star in the rearing pose. Also, I consider SS Magic Star and the other SS ponies the variants, even though they came out earlier than the movie ponies we had over here - because I grew up ignorant of SS ponies and they are the ones with the gimmick ;)

I like Skippety Doo and Truly in that pose but Magic Star in the rearing pose just looks wrong to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: pikkupapupata on April 15, 2018, 01:30:31 AM
I've never been a huge fan of the 'Tootsie pose', but I think a lot of people like it and favour it. I only just recently got Cherries Jubilee, the only one I have in this pose, because I don't like it so much. It seems awkward somehow. :wonder:

As a kid I hated this pose. I had Snowflake and Cherries Jubilee and I wasn't always nice to them. They also got to be stand in boy ponies when I needed more than the three I had for a game or something. But when I was about 8 or 9 I decided to start writing stories about Magic Star and I actively chose to make Cherries Jubilee her best friend because I wanted to like the pony more. It worked. The pose is goofy, but now I don't mind it - though I think part of that was because I knew that here in the UK, Magic Star (with whom I was a bit obsessed at the time) was also in that pose.

The weird thing is that now to me that's normal for Magic Star. So my unpopular opinion is that I don't like Magic Star in the rearing pose. Also, I consider SS Magic Star and the other SS ponies the variants, even though they came out earlier than the movie ponies we had over here - because I grew up ignorant of SS ponies and they are the ones with the gimmick ;)

I like Skippety Doo and Truly in that pose but Magic Star in the rearing pose just looks wrong to me.


I'm still getting accustomed to the pose; I had a Shoreline not too long ago, with awfully frizzy hair that I managed to fix with conditioner, a low-heat flat iron, and 6 hours of labour and patience, but I ended up selling her because I wasn't too attached, and I was happy for someone else to enjoy the effort I put into turning her around. She lives in the Toronto area now.  ^.^
Cherries Jubilee was an accident; I was so stricken by how pretty she was that I kept her, so I'm learning not to mind the pose, but I'm still not there yet.  XD

It's funny, I feel like I've somehow seen Magic Star more in the Tootsie pose than rearing, but I prefer the rearing. I always picture deflocked or Brazilian first, though; I have to make more of a conscious effort to picture SS Magic Star, despite her being the wider release, I think.

I think that there should have been more rearing, and sitting, ponies, as well as non-flocked versions of SSs, on that note. Another for the opinion bank.  :joy:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sweet Stuff on April 15, 2018, 06:49:46 AM
I'm also not big on Rapunzel, and I only want Mimic because TE are my favourite ponies. Otherwise I wouldn't be fussed...

I don't like So Soft Ponies at all. I dislike the feel of the fuzz on toys like them, and it makes me super uncomfortable.

I don't like the original ones, because their shapes are kinda meh.

I'm not bothered about boy ponies but I would still add them to my collection (they get so pricey!)

I can't think of much else  :ack:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on April 15, 2018, 09:13:47 AM
It's funny, I feel like I've somehow seen Magic Star more in the Tootsie pose than rearing, but I prefer the rearing. I always picture deflocked or Brazilian first, though; I have to make more of a conscious effort to picture SS Magic Star, despite her being the wider release, I think.

I think that there should have been more rearing, and sitting, ponies, as well as non-flocked versions of SSs, on that note. Another for the opinion bank.  :joy:
I agree about NSS, sitting, and rearing ponies being more standard, even if I like SS ponies.

About Magic Star, I'm that way with Tootsie. My first introduction to Tootsie was a white Italian one as a gift, so when I see a yellow one, I have to remember that it's not a nirvana.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on April 15, 2018, 09:45:29 AM
I am not found of the blind bags at all, I would rather have more variety among the brushable ones. Also I dislike the new gen 4 pose and only like DJ pony in it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpookyTrees on April 15, 2018, 11:14:55 AM
I've never been a huge fan of the 'Tootsie pose', but I think a lot of people like it and favour it. I only just recently got Cherries Jubilee, the only one I have in this pose, because I don't like it so much. It seems awkward somehow. :wonder:

I strongly strongly dislike that pose as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on April 15, 2018, 02:16:37 PM
I've never been a huge fan of the 'Tootsie pose', but I think a lot of people like it and favour it. I only just recently got Cherries Jubilee, the only one I have in this pose, because I don't like it so much. It seems awkward somehow. :wonder:

I strongly strongly dislike that pose as well.

Me too  :)

Post Merge: April 15, 2018, 02:30:56 PM

Not sure if this has already been said, but I don't like the Sweetheart Sisters or any ponies in that pose...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: pikkupapupata on April 15, 2018, 02:56:29 PM
I've never been a huge fan of the 'Tootsie pose', but I think a lot of people like it and favour it. I only just recently got Cherries Jubilee, the only one I have in this pose, because I don't like it so much. It seems awkward somehow. :wonder:

I strongly strongly dislike that pose as well.

Me too  :)

Post Merge: April 15, 2018, 02:30:56 PM

Not sure if this has already been said, but I don't like the Sweetheart Sisters or any ponies in that pose...

Ah so it seems to be a bit more common than I thought, the dislike of the Tootsie pose.

I feel the same on the Sweetheart Sisters, too, and the Bride pose. They all seem like they aren't G1s. The Bride pose seems like some corruption of the Quackers pose, which I think would have been fine had they modified it without making it overly slender. The Sweetheart Sisters have so many pretty designs and colours and such, but I can't bring myself really to invest in having them because of the poses and overall design; they just don't appeal to me. Oh well! Plenty of others love them.  ^.^
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 15, 2018, 03:12:35 PM
I like the SHS. It's mostly because of Starflash and the other Glittering ponies, though. Starflash was a childhood pony for me, and I have a gorgeous Moonshimmer (Twinkler in USA) and Sunblossom as well. I would LOVE some nice minty prom queens - my loose ones are all a bit worse for wear but I think they are really pretty as well.

I hate the bride pose though. I never wanted either Pony Bride or Bridal Beauty. My sister has both but I'm not interested. And while I like Confetti and Satin and Lace, I am not interested in them dressing up as brides, either. Bridal ponies are utterly unnecessary to me O.o. So Satin and Lace and Confetti get away with it - they're enough ponies on their own without all the accoutrements. Bridal Beauty and Pony Bride are just...nope.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: pikkupapupata on April 15, 2018, 03:19:09 PM
Bridal ponies are utterly unnecessary to me O.o. So Satin and Lace and Confetti get away with it - they're enough ponies on their own without all the accoutrements. Bridal Beauty and Pony Bride are just...nope.

Yup. XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 15, 2018, 03:20:47 PM
I like the SHS. It's mostly because of Starflash and the other Glittering ponies, though. Starflash was a childhood pony for me, and I have a gorgeous Moonshimmer (Twinkler in USA) and Sunblossom as well. I would LOVE some nice minty prom queens - my loose ones are all a bit worse for wear but I think they are really pretty as well.

I hate the bride pose though. I never wanted either Pony Bride or Bridal Beauty. My sister has both but I'm not interested. And while I like Confetti and Satin and Lace, I am not interested in them dressing up as brides, either. Bridal ponies are utterly unnecessary to me O.o. So Satin and Lace and Confetti get away with it - they're enough ponies on their own without all the accoutrements. Bridal Beauty and Pony Bride are just...nope.

I'm thinking Hasbro botched the names of that particular set of SHS.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 15, 2018, 03:26:12 PM
I like the SHS. It's mostly because of Starflash and the other Glittering ponies, though. Starflash was a childhood pony for me, and I have a gorgeous Moonshimmer (Twinkler in USA) and Sunblossom as well. I would LOVE some nice minty prom queens - my loose ones are all a bit worse for wear but I think they are really pretty as well.

I hate the bride pose though. I never wanted either Pony Bride or Bridal Beauty. My sister has both but I'm not interested. And while I like Confetti and Satin and Lace, I am not interested in them dressing up as brides, either. Bridal ponies are utterly unnecessary to me O.o. So Satin and Lace and Confetti get away with it - they're enough ponies on their own without all the accoutrements. Bridal Beauty and Pony Bride are just...nope.

I'm thinking Hasbro botched the names of that particular set of SHS.

I agree with you! Too many drinks one Christmas party, I think! Starflash. Yes, lets give her hearts. Bright Night? Bows makes sense. Sunblossom? She should have stars. And the final one is Moonshimmer here and Twinkler there. Twinkler is quite generic but those are definitely not moons.

But even if you switched them around, made the yellow Sunblossom, and the pink Starflash, bows and hearts still don't really make sense with the other two names ;)

In the comic Hasbro added to the mess by making Starflash white and pink xD.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessNikki on April 15, 2018, 03:57:50 PM
wait...what is a "piggy" pony??

http://mlparena.com/archive/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=228066 (http://mlparena.com/archive/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=228066)

They're Nirvana ponies from Spain.

oh...oh my gOD!! i am LAUGHING

I like Algodoncete's colors and symbol though. It's like a rain storm.

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I almost liked them when I saw this photo on Pinterest (I didn't know that their eyes open and close), but I realised that I just thought that the photo was very sweet. I see other pictures of them, and I may like a colour scheme or a name or a symbol, but overall, they are just not for me.

That IS a very cute photo! they look like theyre having a really nice dream
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on April 15, 2018, 04:08:23 PM

Not sure if this has already been said, but I don't like the Sweetheart Sisters or any ponies in that pose...
Me neither, at first. But then I ended up with a pair and they grew on me, especially wearing g3 accessories that happen tobfit perfectly. (Crown, flower Bouquet, and skirt) Just those two, though. As funny as the spotted giraffe-looking one is to me, I definitely don't want more.

I had a pony bride (the more common/cheap one) as a kid and, though I liked her colors, she was the first non-duplicate that I was willing to let go of when I was selling my old toys in college.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on April 15, 2018, 06:35:24 PM
I also don't like the wedding ponies. Bridal Beauty & Pony Bride make me think of Miss Havisham from Great Expectations. The bridal ponies' identities are locked into being brides to the point where they've assumed permanent names associated with a one-time event, just as Miss Havisham wore her wedding gown every day as permanent attire despite it only being for a one-time event.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: pikkupapupata on April 16, 2018, 12:11:52 AM
@PrincessNikki : It's super cute, right? I was shocked that they were Piggies and kept staring at it for a good while trying to figure it out and reconcile my opposing feelings. I wonder whose photo it is, maybe someone on here? I'm very curious about that now.

@Khoufu : I would have liked Pony Bride and Bridal Beauty more if they weren't in that goofy pose. I think a Quackers or Posey pose would have been lovely (but the Posey pose is possibly my top favourite, so I'm a bit partial). Same goes for others who were in the Bride pose.

@northstar3184 : I haven't read Dickens (:blush:) but I think the locked identities you mentioned are another factor in my general disinterest in those two specifically. Confetti and Satin 'n Lace, as Taffeta brought up too, are excused for me because I like them aside from the wedding themes that were attached to them, and they had more potential not to be bogged down by that one theme, especially without the accessories (Satin 'n Lace actually just makes me think of 80s Madonna or Cyndi Lauper or Blondie, not weddings).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RoseNoire on April 16, 2018, 03:10:15 AM
My unpopular opinion is that I quite like the Waterfire pose, I thinks it's a pretty nice one. It looks like the pony is sticking its tongue out to be silly or blowing a bubble gum. ^^
I also quite enjoy G3 tinsel as long as I don't see it too often. Problem is, I feel like I have too many tinseled ponies to enjoy this feature anymore. *Non-tinseled ponies are okay too, hasbro ! *
I just got Fancy Free yesterday with a bad case of tail rust. If my de-rusting methods ruins her tinsel, I'm pretty sure I'd be up to de-tisel her completely. But I'm still unsure, I don't like to damage ponies, I'm the first one against de-tinseling. That might hurt so much. ._.

Oh, and speaking of printed-out accessories....This upcoming lineup...
Wellp, spoiler about the new lineup(School of friendship brushables), you've been warned twice.

Spoiler
Look at this nightmare, I can't bear to look at those shoes.
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This looks so wrong. Who got this idea and who approved it ? ;-;
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on April 16, 2018, 09:26:10 AM
My unpopular opinion is that I quite like the Waterfire pose, I thinks it's a pretty nice one. It looks like the pony is sticking its tongue out to be silly or blowing a bubble gum. ^^
I also quite enjoy G3 tinsel as long as I don't see it too often. Problem is, I feel like I have too many tinseled ponies to enjoy this feature anymore. *Non-tinseled ponies are okay too, hasbro ! *
I just got Fancy Free yesterday with a bad case of tail rust. If my de-rusting methods ruins her tinsel, I'm pretty sure I'd be up to de-tisel her completely. But I'm still unsure, I don't like to damage ponies, I'm the first one against de-tinseling. That might hurt so much. ._.

Oh, and speaking of printed-out accessories....This upcoming lineup...
Wellp, spoiler about the new lineup(School of friendship brushables), you've been warned twice.

Spoiler
Look at this nightmare, I can't bear to look at those shoes.
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This looks so wrong. Who got this idea and who approved it ? ;-;
those outfits would be better moulded on
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RoseNoire on April 16, 2018, 10:11:06 AM
Of course they would. What were they thinking ? Also, if they dare to do that, they should bring back the butt symbol on both sides for G5 instead, that would be a nicer thing to do.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 16, 2018, 10:20:57 AM
My unpopular opinion is that I quite like the Waterfire pose, I thinks it's a pretty nice one. It looks like the pony is sticking its tongue out to be silly or blowing a bubble gum. ^^
I also quite enjoy G3 tinsel as long as I don't see it too often. Problem is, I feel like I have too many tinseled ponies to enjoy this feature anymore. *Non-tinseled ponies are okay too, hasbro ! *
I just got Fancy Free yesterday with a bad case of tail rust. If my de-rusting methods ruins her tinsel, I'm pretty sure I'd be up to de-tisel her completely. But I'm still unsure, I don't like to damage ponies, I'm the first one against de-tinseling. That might hurt so much. ._.

Oh, and speaking of printed-out accessories....This upcoming lineup...
Wellp, spoiler about the new lineup(School of friendship brushables), you've been warned twice.

Spoiler
Look at this nightmare, I can't bear to look at those shoes.
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This looks so wrong. Who got this idea and who approved it ? ;-;

So...cheap and...and hideous.  :crazy:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on April 16, 2018, 10:34:36 AM
I hope that disliking printed on clothes is never an unpopular opinion. I can understand rubber clothes because kiddies like to play rough sometimes and plastic is more durable and can get easily washed.
But halfway printed on is a joke. Even to kids. Little girls have standards, too.
I remember when I was a kid I would get annoyed when a doll wasn't able to change clothes. It hindered my play if something was stuck in a certain look (in my case mermaids with painted/moulded on tops, heh).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 16, 2018, 12:06:45 PM
I hope that disliking printed on clothes is never an unpopular opinion. I can understand rubber clothes because kiddies like to play rough sometimes and plastic is more durable and can get easily washed.
But halfway printed on is a joke. Even to kids. Little girls have standards, too.
I remember when I was a kid I would get annoyed when a doll wasn't able to change clothes. It hindered my play if something was stuck in a certain look (in my case mermaids with painted/moulded on tops, heh).

Have to agree. I don't like the plastic or rubber clothes either, though. I keep thinking about when I was a kid. I had the Tennis Fun outfit from new. It was out when I was four. I never wrecked it. Cherries Jubilee wore it a lot. I guess she liked tennis O.o.

The shoes went astray only because Windy needed one of them to stand up and sometimes they'd fall off her. I also had a couple of other ponywear outfits - Champagne and Lace, Scarlet Sensation, My Valentine - and again, didn't wreck them. I *did* need help from parents to put shoes on, and never managed to get the slippers on properly on Champagne and Lace - but I enjoyed the ponywear I had because it was like the ponies playing dress up.

I don't pretend I know where the jewellery went to some of those outfits. Maybe small fiddly jewellery wasn't the best plan. But fabric clothing in simple terms would still be lovely for ponies now. Or if they are too small to wear it, then let's save clothing for the Fashion Styles and make a big thing of it for them...

So I think it's sad that they no longer get the options of fabric ponywear.

I have to concur about things painted over eyes. I have the FS Spitfire. She has goggles, but they're removeable. I don't even know where I put them. They're horrible, and she's so pretty without them O.o. But at least I had that choice. If kids want to play wonderbolts with her then fine - but choice is important.

I mean, I had Jazzie as a kid and her glasses and cd player came off, but her boots didn't, and that always annoyed me just a bit.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 16, 2018, 01:08:33 PM
On the bright side one of the cmc finally has a toy with her symbol.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on April 16, 2018, 01:38:16 PM
On the bright side one of the cmc finally has a toy with her symbol.
I thought I saw one before at Targe, I don't remember which one.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on April 19, 2018, 04:01:52 PM
I hate printed on clothes with a passion, it looks super cheap, hate it.  :enraged:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on April 20, 2018, 01:45:18 AM
I hate printed on clothes with a passion, it looks super cheap, hate it.  :enraged:

This!! I wouldn't mind so much if they were properly painted on all the way round. But a pony wearing half a printed-on shoe? No, no thanks. I've seen Poundland toys that are better quality!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 20, 2018, 02:55:43 AM
I've seen g4 ponies in poundland...so...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 20, 2018, 10:00:06 AM
I hate printed on clothes with a passion, it looks super cheap, hate it.  :enraged:

Plus her head looks like a freaking ping pong ball. When is mlp gonna go back to being ponies Hasbro, and not these deformed freaks of nature?

Post Merge: April 21, 2018, 07:13:23 AM

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 21, 2018, 10:50:49 AM
UGH I hate painted-on clothes, too. Plastic I can deal with (I mean, I prefer fabric if there have to be any clothes at all, but y'know), but painted on.. ugh. Especially HALF painted clothes. I mean, if they *must* do painted clothes, at least do it properly instead of halfway, you know?

I also don't like the wedding ponies. Bridal Beauty & Pony Bride make me think of Miss Havisham from Great Expectations. The bridal ponies' identities are locked into being brides to the point where they've assumed permanent names associated with a one-time event, just as Miss Havisham wore her wedding gown every day as permanent attire despite it only being for a one-time event.

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lady Frostbite on April 21, 2018, 11:01:59 AM
MLP: The Movie related stuff, I'll put it under the spoiler tag just in case

Spoiler

While I agree with the writer's logic, a terrible part of me kinda wishes they did go ahead and make the villain Celestia and Luna's brother ... just to watch the hardcore G4 canon zealots freak out
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 21, 2018, 12:07:42 PM
I don't care for some of the sought after g4s. Feather May, Dewdrop Dazzle, Diamond Rose and Snow Catcher.

Post Merge: April 21, 2018, 12:08:01 PM

MLP: The Movie related stuff, I'll put it under the spoiler tag just in case

Spoiler

While I agree with the writer's logic, a terrible part of me kinda wishes they did go ahead and make the villain Celestia and Luna's brother ... just to watch the hardcore G4 canon zealots freak out

 :lmao:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pleyone on April 22, 2018, 04:41:59 AM
I don´t like flutters, BBEs (that faces... :whoa:) or flocked ponys. And I´m not a fan of putting mechanisms inside ponys (like happy tails, B&G, Secret Surprise...)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 23, 2018, 05:36:34 PM
I love that Tempest has a muzzle like she ought to, but I hate that she has no horn.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 24, 2018, 01:16:32 AM
I don´t like flutters, BBEs (that faces... :whoa:) or flocked ponys. And I´m not a fan of putting mechanisms inside ponys (like happy tails, B&G, Secret Surprise...)

Ooh. This makes me think of one. I don't really like batteries in ponies. I mean they're great, the gimmicks are fun, but then you have to remember to remove them before the ponies go in storage.

I am not sure how it is my talking ponies all still talk, but I do worry about them regularly. But if I take out their batteries, it will be impossible for me to tell the difference between Talk a Lot and Charlatan...:/

Plus shipping them overseas is a pain. Especially MIB items. Batteries are not allowed in transit.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on April 24, 2018, 09:45:58 AM
I agree about batteries in toys, especially if they aren't interactiveat all besides pushing a button.

But now I'm curious how hard it would be to mod a talking g1 to say something else.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on April 24, 2018, 02:26:45 PM
I hate inaccessible batteries, because they are going to break down and possibly corrode everything around them. I also dont like most sound things, because there is no easy way to fix them when the mother board breaks down.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 24, 2018, 07:30:37 PM
Does anyone like the free pony makeup that came with some ponies? I got free pony lipstick with my Twinkler sparkle pony and of course used it on her. I wish I knew then that it would stain her lips.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kingluke on May 01, 2018, 11:25:28 AM
Okay bear with me here:

I deflock all my ponies, no matter what the flocking condition is.
I reroot all my ponies, despite 'good' hair quality
I think the pony tales cartoon is great.
I remove the first tooth paint from first tooth babies with acetone.

And now everyone will call me a pony abuser XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Jocelyn on May 01, 2018, 04:38:36 PM
Well, that is definitely unpopular! :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RoseNoire on May 01, 2018, 05:38:00 PM
Well, this opinion didn't make me feel good, but I shouldn't be too sarcastic around here to express that. :mrgreen: My second thought is "You do what you want to your collection, your are free". :hug:
It's not even a question of price value, it's more from a "overly preservationist" point of view. :lol: So, yeah, it's totally personal as you can tell. ^^
Have a good day !
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessNikki on May 01, 2018, 08:25:07 PM
Okay bear with me here:

I deflock all my ponies, no matter what the flocking condition is.
I reroot all my ponies, despite 'good' hair quality
I think the pony tales cartoon is great.
I remove the first tooth paint from first tooth babies with acetone.

And now everyone will call me a pony abuser XD

I totally get why you would want to deflock because when I was a kid I hated the flocking and tried to rub it off. Also there are quite a few pony fans I have seen expressing their distaste for the first tooth on the babies so you are not alone.


Do you reroot the hair because you dont like the colors or just because you want the hair to be in the most pristine condition?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on May 02, 2018, 03:50:44 AM
I deflock all my ponies, no matter what the flocking condition is.

Well I'm absolutely in the mind set of it's your pony do what you want...

However, I'd like to throw it out there that people will trade their flocked ponies with rubs that are good candidates for deflock for minty flocked ponies...

Your intro post mentions you are new to collecting, so I figured I'd let you know.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kingluke on May 07, 2018, 04:27:28 AM
Okay bear with me here:

I deflock all my ponies, no matter what the flocking condition is.
I reroot all my ponies, despite 'good' hair quality
I think the pony tales cartoon is great.
I remove the first tooth paint from first tooth babies with acetone.

And now everyone will call me a pony abuser XD

I totally get why you would want to deflock because when I was a kid I hated the flocking and tried to rub it off. Also there are quite a few pony fans I have seen expressing their distaste for the first tooth on the babies so you are not alone.


Do you reroot the hair because you dont like the colors or just because you want the hair to be in the most pristine condition?

Thanks for the reply.
I reroot my ponies cause I love the quality of new hair and I think all my ponies deserve to be treated equally *cough* starlight glimmer vibes *cough*



Post Merge: May 07, 2018, 04:28:20 AM

I deflock all my ponies, no matter what the flocking condition is.

Well I'm absolutely in the mind set of it's your pony do what you want...

However, I'd like to throw it out there that people will trade their flocked ponies with rubs that are good candidates for deflock for minty flocked ponies...

Your intro post mentions you are new to collecting, so I figured I'd let you know.

thanks, I didn't now yet :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 07, 2018, 05:01:32 AM
Okay bear with me here:

I deflock all my ponies, no matter what the flocking condition is.
I reroot all my ponies, despite 'good' hair quality
I think the pony tales cartoon is great.
I remove the first tooth paint from first tooth babies with acetone.

And now everyone will call me a pony abuser XD

I realise you're a new collector, but there are things that are really not good to do with G1 as compared with G4 or even G3. There are hundreds of G4 around for the most part and it's possible to do a lot of things with them - cut to show accurate hair, reroot, etc. But G1 is different.

These are old things, and there aren't as many of them available as there were.

It's better to sell good condition ponies on and restore those with haircuts and bad flocking. Aside from seriously devaluing your collection, you're also potentially removing good ponies from the market that other people may be looking for. Of course, it's your pony and your money, your time, your decision. But I would seriously ask you to think about that before you reroot or deflock a good condition pony. You would do better to sell those on and use the money to invest in ones that need your skills.

There is a difference between restoring a pony and vandalising it. The difference is when restoration is unnecessary. It's not about being a pony abuser - this is a plastic toy. It's about being sensible about the collectable as a whole. You'll spend more on ponies in good condition and you will not be able to recoup that if you resell, because a lot of people do not buy rehairs. Even those who do won't pay the same amount they might have paid for a pony in its original condition. A lot of G1 pony collectors are very picky on these kinds of details.

In the old days it might have been ok to customise a good condition G1 pony. These days it's not particularly encouraged. Again, it's your pony, your time, your money. But I would ask you to stop and think about whether a pony needs restoring or not before you take action on it. Once a G1 pony is lost it's lost forever. There's no factory at Hasbro pumping out new ones. What we have is what we have. Sure, some are more common than others, but even these are a lot rarer than they used to be.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 07, 2018, 08:00:45 AM
Even though I have some G4 and like them enough to keep them, I still think they're seriously deformed, which legit annoys me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 08, 2018, 10:56:08 AM
I like the name Serena over Aquamarine, because I like Sailor Moon. Plus Serena has always been a wonderful name.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kissthethunder on May 08, 2018, 11:40:33 AM
I like the name Serena over Aquamarine, because I like Sailor Moon. Plus Serena has always been a wonderful name.

I'm with you there <3
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 09, 2018, 11:24:37 AM
I don't like Squash ems or Mash ems or whatever they're called.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tulagirl on May 09, 2018, 12:44:40 PM
Okay bear with me here:

I deflock all my ponies, no matter what the flocking condition is.
I reroot all my ponies, despite 'good' hair quality
I think the pony tales cartoon is great.
I remove the first tooth paint from first tooth babies with acetone.

And now everyone will call me a pony abuser XD

Honestly, this is the saddest news I have heard, read or been subjected too all day.   -_-
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 09, 2018, 01:31:04 PM
Okay bear with me here:

I deflock all my ponies, no matter what the flocking condition is.
I reroot all my ponies, despite 'good' hair quality
I think the pony tales cartoon is great.
I remove the first tooth paint from first tooth babies with acetone.

And now everyone will call me a pony abuser XD

Honestly, this is the saddest news I have heard, read or been subjected too all day.   -_-

:hug:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on May 11, 2018, 06:21:18 AM
Okay bear with me here:

I deflock all my ponies, no matter what the flocking condition is.
I reroot all my ponies, despite 'good' hair quality
I think the pony tales cartoon is great.
I remove the first tooth paint from first tooth babies with acetone.

And now everyone will call me a pony abuser XD

..I mean, it's your choice and all, but.... why? :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on May 11, 2018, 07:21:54 AM
I don't like Squash ems or Mash ems or whatever they're called.


Me either.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 11, 2018, 07:39:57 AM
I like the name Princess Tiffany, even though I don't usually like human names for animals.

I'm okayish with the BBE unicorn pose. Like, its not my favorite, but its not terrible. The BBE earth pony pose is impo worse.

I like the big eyed Princess Skystar.

I don't like that all royalty has become relegated to one or two species instead of multiple.

I like the G4 merponies better then the G1 and G3.5 merponies. Like the actual ones, not the mane suxx ones.

I'm annoyed that none of the aquatic or bug/fairy types of ponies have gotten boys.

I love ponies with longer then normal hair.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 11, 2018, 09:19:04 AM
I like the name Serena over Aquamarine, because I like Sailor Moon. Plus Serena has always been a wonderful name.

Serena's real name in SM is Usagi, though :) Which means rabbit. :) Because in Japan, there are rabbits living in the moon (according to popular myth). Hence Sailor Moon.

(Aquamarine > Serena for me, but that won't surprise you huh? XD)

I went to school with an annoying girl called Serena, as well as an annoying one called Tiffany.

I find the Fashem things really weird. I didn't go out to buy any but I got a couple in a lot I bought for something else. They're so odd and squishy. I kept them because they fascinate me - but I am not quite sure why that is.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kingluke on May 11, 2018, 11:18:14 AM
welp.....I guess nobody agrees with my opinions and that's fine, I just buy baits tho.....
oh well.... :(

Post Merge: May 11, 2018, 11:22:07 AM

Okay bear with me here:

I only buy baits people, no need to throw shade on what's said before okay :(

And now everyone will call me a pony abuser XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ghouldilocks on May 11, 2018, 12:20:41 PM
I absolutely cannot stand when people make customs from G1 ponies instead of putting their time, energy, and resources into restoring them. It makes me really, really sad when I see that someone has made a custom from a G1.

Building off that previous statement, I don't believe in the concept of "bait" ponies, since if a pony can be customized, that pony could have been restored instead.

I wish Hasbro had made a set with Megan and TJ instead of just Megan and Sundance. I would have loved (and would still love) a TJ!

I wish Hasbro had made more ponies in the seated pose.

My least favorite sets are the ones that really anthropomorphized the ponies physicality - the Fancy Pants babies and the First Tooth babies.

I still kind of hold a grudge over how toxic bronies were at the beginning of their existence as a community, even though they seem to have quieted down for the most part by now.



Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Motion-Paradox on May 11, 2018, 02:52:14 PM
I like the solid plastic hair and posibility of the Guardians of Harmony toys (especially Pinkie, the brushables always have her depressed hair style)

I don't mind having a set of core characters like in G4 and the later part of G3 since that makes it easier and cheaper to collect one of each character

I prefer Flutter and "Winger" Ponies to Sea Ponies

I really don't understand the "designer" wings people make for Flutter Ponies when there are replacements, yes some are nice, but still

Some of the Nirvana colour schemes just make me wonder "Why?"

I don't really like G3 from either the toy line or animation side; I know for some it was considered a sort of Pony Renaissance (At least the first half) where they had ponies more closely modeled after actual ponies, and a variety of poses & gimmics, and had more of what G1 fans were looking for, and happened in that point in history where there were adult fans but it wasn't really easy to find out what merchandise was coming months in advance so it was easier to go to the store and be surprised by what you found. But they're a little different from G1 ponies in terms of how much they resemble ponies and it doesn't quite do it for me....And then the animated series even more so, and I know a lot of the actors from Friendship is Magic were in it, but to me they sound more invested in that than the G3 series
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: poniesthatsparkle on May 12, 2018, 04:19:52 AM
I absolutely cannot stand when people make customs from G1 ponies instead of putting their time, energy, and resources into restoring them. It makes me really, really sad when I see that someone has made a custom from a G1.

Building off that previous statement, I don't believe in the concept of "bait" ponies, since if a pony can be customized, that pony could have been restored instead.

I agree with you on this one. While some ponies can absolutely be considered bait, many of the ponies I've seen used for customs could have totally been restored. While I don't hate customs I'd rather have a pony rehaired with it's original color and length and completely repainted symbols instead of a custom. I like my ponies to be as original as possible.

Many of my own ponies were sold as baits, and I was able to restore them enough that they'll very well. I like to encourage others to attempt to fully restore a pony before calling it bait.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PoserBeachball on May 12, 2018, 05:24:59 AM
I absolutely cannot stand when people make customs from G1 ponies instead of putting their time, energy, and resources into restoring them. It makes me really, really sad when I see that someone has made a custom from a G1.

Building off that previous statement, I don't believe in the concept of "bait" ponies, since if a pony can be customized, that pony could have been restored instead.

I agree with you on this one. While some ponies can absolutely be considered bait, many of the ponies I've seen used for customs could have totally been restored. While I don't hate customs I'd rather have a pony rehaired with it's original color and length and completely repainted symbols instead of a custom. I like my ponies to be as original as possible.

Many of my own ponies were sold as baits, and I was able to restore them enough that they'll very well. I like to encourage others to attempt to fully restore a pony before calling it bait.

I agree with you both to a point.

I'm particularly uncomfortable with customising such joyful, pretty little things as ponies into pop-culture icons and monsters.

However, I do like alternative rehairs when done with the 'spirit' of the original ponies intact.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starstrider on May 12, 2018, 10:40:29 AM
Okay bear with me here:

I deflock all my ponies, no matter what the flocking condition is.
I reroot all my ponies, despite 'good' hair quality
I think the pony tales cartoon is great.
I remove the first tooth paint from first tooth babies with acetone.

And now everyone will call me a pony abuser XD

I feel unwell after reading that.  Just WHY. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on May 12, 2018, 01:36:56 PM
I like to customize fake ponies for fun.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ghouldilocks on May 12, 2018, 02:18:49 PM
I love the eyelash princesses, I think there's a very small pool of us :lol:.

I love my Princess Spiderlashes!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 12, 2018, 02:25:06 PM
I love the eyelash princesses, I think there's a very small pool of us :lol:.

I love my Princess Spiderlashes!

Does this mean they were bitten by a radioactive maybelline jar? :p
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2018, 02:58:25 AM
I absolutely cannot stand when people make customs from G1 ponies instead of putting their time, energy, and resources into restoring them. It makes me really, really sad when I see that someone has made a custom from a G1.

Building off that previous statement, I don't believe in the concept of "bait" ponies, since if a pony can be customized, that pony could have been restored instead.

I agree with you on this one. While some ponies can absolutely be considered bait, many of the ponies I've seen used for customs could have totally been restored. While I don't hate customs I'd rather have a pony rehaired with it's original color and length and completely repainted symbols instead of a custom. I like my ponies to be as original as possible.

Many of my own ponies were sold as baits, and I was able to restore them enough that they'll very well. I like to encourage others to attempt to fully restore a pony before calling it bait.

I agree with you both to a point.

I'm particularly uncomfortable with customising such joyful, pretty little things as ponies into pop-culture icons and monsters.

However, I do like alternative rehairs when done with the 'spirit' of the original ponies intact.

^
All of this. G1s are nearly old enough to be considered antiques by some standards, and it just seems terribly wasteful...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starstrider on May 13, 2018, 05:27:32 AM
I feel the same way about customising G1s.  I hate seeing ponies with just a few flaws being cut open and repainted, rehaired, and rebranded.  Restoration is possible in most cases, and I wish people would put their energy into conserving the G1s sill in circulation rather than customise them. If the pony is really, REALLY baity and there's nothing short of a miracle which will fix it, then customisation is okay rather than the pony being just thrown away. It especially bothers me when I see poor quality G1 customs.  It feels like a pony was murdered and abused sometimes.  However, I have to admit that there are some really talented customisers out there who produce some beautiful customs. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 13, 2018, 06:40:36 AM
Disagree. Antiques are a lot older then that.
 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2018, 10:19:06 AM
Disagree. Antiques are a lot older then that.

Antique is a somewhat arbitrary word; that’s why I said “by some standards”. 50 is the standard for many antique collectors... At 35, G1s are closing on that number pretty quickly. Others might say an object becomes an antique at 70 or 100.

In any case, a collectible surviving 35 years only to end up being dubbed “bait” and then irreversibly customized rather than restored... seems pretty sad to me. :(
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 13, 2018, 10:26:53 AM
Disagree. Antiques are a lot older then that.

That’s why I said “by some standards”. 50 is the standard for some antique collectors... At 35, G1s are closing on that number pretty quickly.

In any case, a collectible surviving 35 years only to end up being dubbed “bait” and then irreversibly customized rather than restored... seems pretty sad to me. :(

35 is not even close to 100.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antique
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2018, 10:33:24 AM
Disagree. Antiques are a lot older then that.

That’s why I said “by some standards”. 50 is the standard for some antique collectors... At 35, G1s are closing on that number pretty quickly.

In any case, a collectible surviving 35 years only to end up being dubbed “bait” and then irreversibly customized rather than restored... seems pretty sad to me. :(

35 is not even close to 100.

Yes, but I said 50... 100 is the strictest definition of antique, but not the only standard.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 13, 2018, 10:36:35 AM
They're not 50 either.  They'd be considered vintage at this point. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2018, 10:40:35 AM
They're not 50 either.  They'd be considered vintage at this point.  You said by some standards they're old enough to be considered antique. That's flat out ridiculous, since 35 isn't anywhere near the 50-100 category. Its not an interchangeable term so your contradicting yourself and resorting to hyperbole.

Actually, I said “nearly”. 35 is a pretty ripe old age for a toy... Look at everything Barbie went through between 1959-1994.

I’ve come to loathe the word “vintage”... It technically gives no definition of age, and half the time is used to describe items from ten years ago. >_<;

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 13, 2018, 10:43:18 AM
They're not 50 either.  They'd be considered vintage.

That’s why I said “nearly”. In “toy years”, 35 is a pretty ripe old age... Look at everything Barbie went through between 1959-1994.

I’ve come to loathe the word “vintage”... It technically gives no definition of age, and half the time is used to describe items from ten years ago. >_<;

The terms aren't interchangeable. You said by some standards they're considered antique which is flat out ridiculous. Your contradicting yourself and resorting to hyperbole. 35 is nowhere near 50-100. Especially since there are toys far older then that.  Furthermore Vintage is at minimum 20 years. So you can't say it has no definitive age. :hmm:

People describing 10 years as vintage is just as silly as you describing antique ar 35 years.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2018, 10:48:15 AM
They're not 50 either.  They'd be considered vintage.

That’s why I said “nearly”. In “toy years”, 35 is a pretty ripe old age... Look at everything Barbie went through between 1959-1994.

I’ve come to loathe the word “vintage”... It technically gives no definition of age, and half the time is used to describe items from ten years ago. >_<;

The terms aren't interchangeable. You said by some standards they're considered antique which is flat out ridiculous. Your contradicting yourself and resorting to hyperbole. 35 is nowhere near 50-100. Especially since there are toys far older then that.  Furthermore Vintage is at minimum 20 years. So you can't say it has no definitive age. :hmm:

People describing 10 years as vintage is just as silly as you describing antique ar 35 years.

That’s why I said “nearly”. In “toy years”, 35 is a pretty ripe old age... Look at everything Barbie went through between 1959-1994.

I’ve come to loathe the word “vintage”... It technically gives no definition of age, and half the time is used to describe items from ten years ago. >_<;
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The terms aren't interchangeable. You said by some standards they're considered antique which is flat out ridiculous. Your contradicting yourself and resorting to hyperbole. 35 is nowhere near 50-100. Especially since there are toys far older then that.  :hmm:
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I said nearly. Nowhere did I say that they were, presently, antiques.

Also, vintage does not imply a set age: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vintage

I have no idea why you’re being so catty about this... If you want to debate this, fine, but please be a bit more civil and a bit less condescending. And at least read my entire posts before telling me what I did or did not say.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 13, 2018, 10:54:01 AM
And I said they're not even considerd nearly antique.  Funny, all I need do is type in requirement age for vintage in search and it pops up as 20 years. That sure sounds like a definitive age to me.

I'm not being catty or rude. I've been perfectly civil. If you interpret it that way, That's strictly your problem, not mine. This is my topic and unpopular opinions invite discussion and differing opinions. If you don't like it again your problem.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2018, 10:59:21 AM
And I said they're not even considerd nearly. Funny, all I need do is type in requirement age for vintage and it pops up as 20 years. That sure sounds like a definitive age to me.

15 years isn’t much, IMO. If you thinnk it is, that’s fine, since “much” and “nearly” are also completely arbitrary.

Any strict age requirement for “vintage” isn’t in the actual definition of the word. I literally just gave you the dictionary definition.

I have no problem with debating an opinion. But you have been rather uncivil to me, calling my statements “silly” and “hyperbole”.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 13, 2018, 11:01:04 AM
And I said they're not even considerd nearly. Funny, all I need do is type in requirement age for vintage and it pops up as 20 years. That sure sounds like a definitive age to me.

15 years isn’t much, IMO. If you thinnk it is, that’s fine, since “much” and “nearly” are also completely arbitrary.

Any strict age requirement for “vintage” isn’t in the actual definition of the word. I just gave you the dictionary definition.

Interesting. I gave you a definition of antique and you chose to ignore it. Bit hypocritical of you.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2018, 11:07:44 AM
And I said they're not even considerd nearly. Funny, all I need do is type in requirement age for vintage and it pops up as 20 years. That sure sounds like a definitive age to me.

15 years isn’t much, IMO. If you thinnk it is, that’s fine, since “much” and “nearly” are also completely arbitrary.

Any strict age requirement for “vintage” isn’t in the actual definition of the word. I just gave you the dictionary definition.

Interesting. I gave you a definition of antique and you chose to ignore it. Bit hypocritical of you.

I didn’t ignore it. I said that 100 was the strictest definition of the word. I suppose I’m giving you the strictest definition of “vintage” now. Also, the very article you linked even talked about varying opinions of “antique”’s age specification.

Also, you’re being just as hypocritical, by your own definition, as I am... You just keep choosing the source (Google search, Wiki) that suits you, and taking that as law. Those aren’t even academically citable sources. Furthermore, you ignore half of what I say and just repeat your own opinions.

Also:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/antiques

By “various custom laws”, an antique is 100 or more. However, many definitions of the word don’t even imply a standard age requirement at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 13, 2018, 11:15:04 AM
And I said they're not even considerd nearly. Funny, all I need do is type in requirement age for vintage and it pops up as 20 years. That sure sounds like a definitive age to me.

15 years isn’t much, IMO. If you thinnk it is, that’s fine, since “much” and “nearly” are also completely arbitrary.

Any strict age requirement for “vintage” isn’t in the actual definition of the word. I literally just gave you the dictionary definition.

I have no problem with debating an opinion. But you have been rather uncivil to me, calling my statements “silly” and “hyperbole”.

Silly and hyperbole isn't an insult. If i were being uncivil and rude to you, trust me, you'd know it. As I'm not always the nicest person and I'm quite mouthy and uncouth.

If you think that someone calmly pointing out that 35 years isn't close to 50 or 100 is rude, uncivil or catty, then I don't know what to say to that. But once again, that is strictly your problem for choosing to interpret it that way.


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RoseNoire on May 13, 2018, 11:18:35 AM
Judging whether or not 35 is close to 50 and deciding at what age something is "vintage" of "antique" is kind of a matter of opinion. I think your argument might go on until G1s are definitely described as archeological artifacts.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 13, 2018, 11:22:21 AM
Judging whether or not 35 is close to 50 and deciding at what age something is "vintage" of "antique" is kind of a matter of opinion. I think your argument might go on until G1s are definitely described as archeological artifacts.

Archaeological is 1 million years from now when archaeologists dig them up and deduce that little girls were involved in some kind of ancient, widespread, horse-cult. ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2018, 11:25:00 AM
And I said they're not even considerd nearly. Funny, all I need do is type in requirement age for vintage and it pops up as 20 years. That sure sounds like a definitive age to me.

15 years isn’t much, IMO. If you thinnk it is, that’s fine, since “much” and “nearly” are also completely arbitrary.

Any strict age requirement for “vintage” isn’t in the actual definition of the word. I literally just gave you the dictionary definition.

I have no problem with debating an opinion. But you have been rather uncivil to me, calling my statements “silly” and “hyperbole”.

Silly and hyperbole isn't an insult. If i were being uncivil and rude to you, trust me, you'd know it. As I'm not always the nicest person and I'm quite mouthy and uncouth.

If you think that someone calmly pointing out that 35 years isn't close to 50 or 100 is rude, uncivil or catty, then I don't know what to say to that.

Just because you’re not spewing obscenities and typing in all caps doesn’t mean you can’t be rude or condescending. Honestly, it’s your willfully ignoring or misrepresenting the things I say that I find rude. And I’m pretty sure calling someone’s opinion silly is rude by about any definition.

Judging whether or not 35 is close to 50 and deciding at what age something is "vintage" of "antique" is kind of a matter of opinion. I think your argument might go on until G1s are definitely described as archeological artifacts.
(Bolded for emphasis)

Which has actually been my argument since this started.

If someone doesn’t agree with my aforementioned feelings on whether 35 is close to 50, or whether vintage connotates a specific age, fine. Just stop trying to factually define and disprove arbitrary terms and opinions.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 13, 2018, 11:34:54 AM
Really now?  Tone can sometimes be hard to intrepet on the internet. You are the only one in a tizzy.  did not call you names, nor have I exploded in a fit of petty anger at you. Kindly do not accuse me of being uncivil, rude or catty unless I actually am being rude.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2018, 11:38:47 AM
Really now?  Tone can sometimes be hard to intrepet on the internet. I did not call you names, nor have I exploded in a fit of petty anger at you. Kindly do not acuse me of being uncivil, rude or catty unless I actually am being rude.

Perhaps you should go look up the definition of silly. Its not an insult.

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Definition of silly

sillier; silliest
1 archaic : helpless, weak
2 a : rustic, plain
b obsolete : lowly in station : humble
3 a : weak in intellect : foolish
b : exhibiting or indicative of a lack of common sense or sound judgment a very silly mistake
c : trifling, frivolous

Just did. Sounds suspiciously insulting to me.

Also, I’m not in a “tizzy”. I’m defending myself, since you’re attacking my statements and opinions.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: splooto on May 13, 2018, 12:06:17 PM
The flocking is one of the most valued thing in a pony for me, if i could, id flock all of them
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 13, 2018, 12:31:31 PM
The flocking is one of the most valued thing in a pony for me, if i could, id flock all of them

I am partial to most flocked toys myself.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2018, 12:53:18 PM
I kinda thought I might be the only person in the world who loves flocking. XD I wonder why they never make flocked ponies anymore? :cry: It still seems popular in other toy lines, like Shopkins.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: splooto on May 13, 2018, 03:26:50 PM
I kinda thought I might be the only person in the world who loves flocking. XD I wonder why they never make flocked ponies anymore? :cry: It still seems popular in other toy lines, like Shopkins.

I think it has to do with the fact that flocking toys themselves seem to have fallen out of favor and that flocking itself is "difficult" to properly adhere (essentially it would take a little more effort to make sure it doesnt go on the eyes and other features like hair and also just because it costs less not to)

I don't come across a modern flocking toy very often if at all anymore and in my personal opinion, it really seems like hasbro has been cutting corners at every possibility on the G4 MLP toys and personally,, they're even pretty creepy looking :(
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Esbayne on May 13, 2018, 04:45:39 PM
I don't come across a modern flocking toy very often if at all anymore and in my personal opinion, it really seems like hasbro has been cutting corners at every possibility on the G4 MLP toys and personally,, they're even pretty creepy looking :(

O ya... >.> I hope G5 has more to offer than G4. I wish it was still about the pony toys themselves and not the show. >.< Used to be that the cartoon promoted the toys, now the toys promote the cartoon, and badly, at that, since they only seem to like to release the Mane 6, and occasionally very-hard-to-find backgrounders. (I don't keep up with the shows or comics anymore, I tried at first, but I've taken peeks at the original characters from them and it hurts my heart that they don't even bother trying to make toys of them, I bet they'd sell like hotcakes. I want those damn Norse ponies from the comics, BADLY. >.>) That is one of my unpopular opinions, I guess, if that is one- I really hate the whole FiM show thing and the stereotypes/culture around it, and the fact they try to make it more pop-culture than it already is.

They hardly look like ponies to me, I really don't like Americanized-Anime flair they tried to give it (Don't get me wrong I love anime, but ponies should be separate imo)- and it's sad to see Hasbro doing everything possible to make the ponies as cheap as humanly possible to save as many pennies as they possibly can, which is ultimately running the line into the ground. I miss all the creativity, thought, and uniqueness that went into MLP.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 13, 2018, 05:27:29 PM
I don't come across a modern flocking toy very often if at all anymore and in my personal opinion, it really seems like hasbro has been cutting corners at every possibility on the G4 MLP toys and personally,, they're even pretty creepy looking :(

O ya... >.> I hope G5 has more to offer than G4. I wish it was still about the pony toys themselves and not the show. >.< Used to be that the cartoon promoted the toys, now the toys promote the cartoon, and badly, at that, since they only seem to like to release the Mane 6, and occasionally very-hard-to-find backgrounders. (I don't keep up with the shows or comics anymore, I tried at first, but I've taken peeks at the original characters from them and it hurts my heart that they don't even bother trying to make toys of them, I bet they'd sell like hotcakes. I want those damn Norse ponies from the comics, BADLY. >.>) That is one of my unpopular opinions, I guess, if that is one- I really hate the whole FiM show thing and the stereotypes/culture around it, and the fact they try to make it more pop-culture than it already is.

They hardly look like ponies to me, I really don't like Americanized-Anime flair they tried to give it (Don't get me wrong I love anime, but ponies should be separate imo)- and it's sad to see Hasbro doing everything possible to make the ponies as cheap as humanly possible to save as many pennies as they possibly can, which is ultimately running the line into the ground. I miss all the creativity, thought, and uniqueness that went into MLP.

That's a pretty popular belief around here about the toys being cheap and boring
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2018, 05:46:25 PM
I don't come across a modern flocking toy very often if at all anymore and in my personal opinion, it really seems like hasbro has been cutting corners at every possibility on the G4 MLP toys and personally,, they're even pretty creepy looking :(

O ya... >.> I hope G5 has more to offer than G4. I wish it was still about the pony toys themselves and not the show. >.< Used to be that the cartoon promoted the toys, now the toys promote the cartoon, and badly, at that, since they only seem to like to release the Mane 6, and occasionally very-hard-to-find backgrounders. (I don't keep up with the shows or comics anymore, I tried at first, but I've taken peeks at the original characters from them and it hurts my heart that they don't even bother trying to make toys of them, I bet they'd sell like hotcakes. I want those damn Norse ponies from the comics, BADLY. >.>) That is one of my unpopular opinions, I guess, if that is one- I really hate the whole FiM show thing and the stereotypes/culture around it, and the fact they try to make it more pop-culture than it already is.

They hardly look like ponies to me, I really don't like Americanized-Anime flair they tried to give it (Don't get me wrong I love anime, but ponies should be separate imo)- and it's sad to see Hasbro doing everything possible to make the ponies as cheap as humanly possible to save as many pennies as they possibly can, which is ultimately running the line into the ground. I miss all the creativity, thought, and uniqueness that went into MLP.

I walked into a store the other day and saw the new Shopkins Shoppets animals... A bunch of them were flocked, and it made me absurdly happy. XD I miss So Softs.

I feel like Hasbro puts /some/ effort into the Guardians of Harmony line, but not much else. If they’re going to introduce so many new characters and species in the show/comics, why do they refuse to release them as toys? XP The blind bag figures feature a wide selection of characters, but the brushables are pretty much just the mane six... again... and again... and again... I can’t quite figure out their logic. :/

Or, y’know... they could at least make flocked versions of the mane six. X3
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 14, 2018, 10:08:30 AM
Starlight is my least favorite of the Tales girls. I don't like her colors, toy, or her personality
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on May 14, 2018, 01:02:00 PM
I kinda dont like any of the gen 4 play sets, they are kinda boring to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on May 14, 2018, 01:45:40 PM
I like the name Princess Tiffany, even though I don't usually like human names for animals.
Same. Tiffany reminds me of a brand name, Tiffany, that sell fancy expensive jewelry and such, so it's fitting for a princess.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tulagirl on May 14, 2018, 03:31:28 PM
Judging whether or not 35 is close to 50 and deciding at what age something is "vintage" of "antique" is kind of a matter of opinion. I think your argument might go on until G1s are definitely described as archeological artifacts.



Archaeological is 1 million years from now when archaeologists dig them up and deduce that little girls were involved in some kind of ancient, widespread, horse-cult. ;)


Baaaaa  this is epic. I am dying over here. 

I kinda dont like any of the gen 4 play sets, they are kinda boring to me.

Well, honestly to me they are over priced shelving units not playsets. :pout:

The flocking is one of the most valued thing in a pony for me, if i could, id flock all of them

I so agree with this.


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If someone doesn’t agree with my aforementioned feelings on whether 35 is close to 50

Man I wish 35 was close to 50.  I would be young suddenly again. :lol:  I would have to say that no they are not close at all since I have reached both and would very  much like to return to the 35.


I feel that ponies will not reach antique status due to being plastic, my feelings are that if they are not put into some sort of oxygen deprived, light deprived and heat deprived device they will do one of two things, turn into a puddle of color and no shape, or crack and harden and be delicate like a figurine, break easily and hair will be a clump of goo. Since I collect antiques myself in the form of dolls from as early as 1800's even glass can't seem to handle the test of time without shattering, rubber products cave in, flake, crack and melt into hard globs.  Ponies sadly will probably do the same thing I fear. -_-
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 14, 2018, 03:54:28 PM
I feel that ponies will not reach antique status due to being plastic, my feelings are that if they are not put into some sort of oxygen deprived, light deprived and heat deprived device they will do one of two things, turn into a puddle of color and no shape, or crack and harden and be delicate like a figurine, break easily and hair will be a clump of goo. Since I collect antiques myself in the form of dolls from as early as 1800's even glass can't seem to handle the test of time without shattering, rubber products cave in, flake, crack and melt into hard globs.  Ponies sadly will probably do the same thing I fear. -_-

Well, I know what I’ll be having nightmares about tonight. :shocked: That’s some depressing stuff, there.

Man I wish 35 was close to 50.  I would be young suddenly again. :lol:  I would have to say that no they are not close at all since I have reached both and would very  much like to return to the 35.

Touche. XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: mewthemew on May 14, 2018, 05:14:34 PM
I....
Actually think Newborn Cuties is kinda cute.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on May 14, 2018, 05:25:07 PM
I....
Actually think Newborn Cuties is kinda cute.

They're adorable! I love their curly hair and their little bows. :lovey:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 14, 2018, 06:07:47 PM
I....
Actually think Newborn Cuties is kinda cute.

They're adorable! I love their curly hair and their little bows. :lovey:

I love the Newborn Cuties! I wish they’d stuck around longer.

On another note entirely... Leave a Whisper, I’m sorry if things escalated a bit earlier. I honestly wasn’t having the best day, and I might have read more into what you said than I should have.

Anyway, I shouldn’t have lashed out and called you catty. I’m sure you’re a perfectly nice person, and I don’t want there to be any lingering tension. No hard feelings?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 17, 2018, 08:25:40 AM
I don't care for a lot of the SA ponies outside one or two.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kissthethunder on May 17, 2018, 12:10:44 PM
Starlight is my least favorite of the Tales girls. I don't like her colors, toy, or her personality

Ugh, THIS. I really disliked her as a kid and found her to be particularly snobby. I Adored Sweetheart but her toy didn't do her justice to me. I liked Melody but she could be rather self-centric at times as well. I think Bright Eyes, SweetHeart and Clover were the best characters and I really with they made more toys, like the boys in the show.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessNikki on May 17, 2018, 08:30:59 PM
I...I have to say it...

I really, really don't like Rainbow Dash. I cannot stand her as a character. I think she is so rude and narcissistic and not even in a fun way. It's like she has learned nothing since episode 1. All the other characters are great...Except for her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 17, 2018, 08:52:57 PM
I...I have to say it...

I really, really don't like Rainbow Dash. I cannot stand her as a character. I think she is so rude and narcissistic and not even in a fun way. It's like she has learned nothing since episode 1. All the other characters are great...Except for her.

This is the Unpopular Opinion thread, its alright to say it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on May 18, 2018, 01:44:13 AM
I...I have to say it...

I really, really don't like Rainbow Dash. I cannot stand her as a character. I think she is so rude and narcissistic and not even in a fun way. It's like she has learned nothing since episode 1. All the other characters are great...Except for her.

Agreed, she is so irritating!
I had G4 Rainbow Dash as a toy before I ever saw the show (I remember choosing her because she had rainbow hair!). I made up my own personality for her, and decided that design-wise she was my favourite G4. So seeing her abrasive cartoon counterpart is always really jarring for me! It's like, "That's not Rainbow Dash!", only of course it is.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on May 18, 2018, 05:27:52 AM
I...I have to say it...

I really, really don't like Rainbow Dash. I cannot stand her as a character. I think she is so rude and narcissistic and not even in a fun way. It's like she has learned nothing since episode 1. All the other characters are great...Except for her.

Agreed, she is so irritating!
I had G4 Rainbow Dash as a toy before I ever saw the show (I remember choosing her because she had rainbow hair!). I made up my own personality for her, and decided that design-wise she was my favourite G4. So seeing her abrasive cartoon counterpart is always really jarring for me! It's like, "That's not Rainbow Dash!", only of course it is.
  I wish she was less mean on the show it seems like its not about her filter its just her being outright mean
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tulagirl on May 18, 2018, 05:38:33 AM
I don't like Rainbow Dash either for the same reasons, but I don't care for Rarity either.  She is too much like my step mother.  She makes me shiver. Uggg lol
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 18, 2018, 06:36:22 AM
G4 Rarity is a whiny drama queen and a bit too bossy for my liking. All you have to do is make her snotty and we'd have the next generation Truly.

When it comes to divas, I far prefer Melody to the likes of Truly and Rarity.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessNikki on May 18, 2018, 07:32:10 AM
I...I have to say it...

I really, really don't like Rainbow Dash. I cannot stand her as a character. I think she is so rude and narcissistic and not even in a fun way. It's like she has learned nothing since episode 1. All the other characters are great...Except for her.

This is the Unpopular Opinion thread, its alright to say it.
hahaha I know but I still feel bad. But she's the worst.

Post Merge: May 18, 2018, 07:34:41 AM

I...I have to say it...

I really, really don't like Rainbow Dash. I cannot stand her as a character. I think she is so rude and narcissistic and not even in a fun way. It's like she has learned nothing since episode 1. All the other characters are great...Except for her.

Agreed, she is so irritating!
I had G4 Rainbow Dash as a toy before I ever saw the show (I remember choosing her because she had rainbow hair!). I made up my own personality for her, and decided that design-wise she was my favourite G4. So seeing her abrasive cartoon counterpart is always really jarring for me! It's like, "That's not Rainbow Dash!", only of course it is.
  I wish she was less mean on the show it seems like its not about her filter its just her being outright mean

yeah, that's true. I cringed when she got into the wonderbolts because I feel like she hadnt earned it. It is like she gets everything she wants in life handed to her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 18, 2018, 02:19:06 PM
The thing with Rainbow Dash is... I feel like the writers are AFRAID to develop her character. She became instantly popular when FiM-mania began, and I think they were afraid to change her too much—which is an awful shame, IMHO.

We got to see LASTING character development for the others. Twilight became more open-minded and receptive to others’ opinions, Fluttershy became more confident and assertive, etc.... Rainbow Dash has a great number of episodes where she “learns a lesson”. The trouble is, those lessons are never allowed to STICK, because by the next episode... it feels like she’s been “reset”. She’s back to being cocky, or pushy, or arrogant, and it’s like the previous episodes never even happened.

I find this a glaring flaw in the series... I honestly believe the writers are afraid she won’t seem as “cool” or appealing if she becomes more mature/responsible/sensitive to others. I don’t think that’s what Lauren ever intended for the character, which makes me rather sad... In earlier seasons RD showed a lot more growth, whereas they’ve pretty much regressed her character for the sake of laughs in recent seasons. :/

All that said, I don’t dislike Rainbow Dash. She has her flaws and merits... I just find it sad that she isn’t being allowed to develop as a character, like the rest of the Mane 6 have done.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: rtattles on May 18, 2018, 03:53:27 PM
I like G2 ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on May 18, 2018, 07:16:00 PM
G4 Rarity is a whiny drama queen and a bit too bossy for my liking. All you have to do is make her snotty and we'd have the next generation Truly.

When it comes to divas, I far prefer Melody to the likes of Truly and Rarity.


I want to like Rarity but I think we see far too little of her generosity. It seems we only see it when it's important for the plot.  I'm not saying she has to be generous most of the time as all of the main 6 still have character flaws despite being connected to the Elements of Harmony but I wish we'd see it a little more often.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kissthethunder on May 18, 2018, 09:39:30 PM
I need to throw this out there and I'm sorry if its been said before. Sweet Scoops and and Sherbet are practically the same pony imho and one is insanely priced. I understand the mailorder versus a common 3D symboled pony but I still don't understand why so many people love one and hate the other.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 19, 2018, 09:15:55 AM
I need to throw this out there and I'm sorry if its been said before. Sweet Scoops and and Sherbet are practically the same pony imho and one is insanely priced. I understand the mailorder versus a common 3D symboled pony but I still don't understand why so many people love one and hate the other.

I like Sherbert.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 19, 2018, 01:54:41 PM
I don't think the mane 6 are great role models for kids in general, personally.

But Rainbow Dash is really horrible. I am still wincing over whoever thought making an entire episode about her abusing animals was a good idea.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on May 20, 2018, 10:57:47 AM
I've been wondering why Hasbro thought it was necessary to give  a lot of the baby ponies diapers (except the drink n wets) unless it just went along with the "taking care of the baby pony" theme.

I guess party panties were basically the same thing just prettier and harder to get on the baby ponies

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 20, 2018, 11:05:44 AM
I've been wondering why Hasbro thought it was necessary to give  a lot of the baby ponies diapers (except the drink n wets) unless it just went along with the "taking care of the baby pony" theme.

I guess party panties were basically the same thing just prettier and harder to get on the baby ponies

Ponyfan

Because...you know I have no idea why.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on May 20, 2018, 12:50:41 PM
I need to throw this out there and I'm sorry if its been said before. Sweet Scoops and and Sherbet are practically the same pony imho and one is insanely priced. I understand the mailorder versus a common 3D symboled pony but I still don't understand why so many people love one and hate the other.
I like Sherbert's pose better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kissthethunder on May 20, 2018, 12:59:15 PM
I need to throw this out there and I'm sorry if its been said before. Sweet Scoops and and Sherbet are practically the same pony imho and one is insanely priced. I understand the mailorder versus a common 3D symboled pony but I still don't understand why so many people love one and hate the other.
I like Sherbert's pose better.

Me too, and her accessories tie her color scheme together very nicely
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on May 21, 2018, 09:56:05 PM
Here's one:

I don't want a full collection of every G1 in existence. Instead, my goal has always been a relatively small herd comprised only of ponies from select sets. There are a lot more ponies I'd pass on than ones I actually want.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 21, 2018, 10:23:46 PM
Here's one:

I don't want a full collection of every G1 in existence. Instead, my goal has always been a relatively small herd comprised only of ponies from select sets. There are a lot more ponies I'd pass on than ones I actually want.

Nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on May 25, 2018, 11:14:19 AM
Year 1 and Year 2 (minus the sitting pose) don't appeal to me as much as they seem to do to others. MLP was really brought to life as of Year 3 IMO. Oh gosh, I feel like I'm betraying the brand...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on May 25, 2018, 11:33:26 AM
^ I'm betraying the brand with you! :P I agree so much. Sometimes I feel bummed when I "only" find early ponies at the fleamarket (and slap myself afterwards because I feel terribly ungrateful), they just aren't as special...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 25, 2018, 11:45:42 AM
I agree to the extent that Hasbro left out the awesome y2 ponies (unicorns, pegasus ponies) here. Albeit I like the rainbows.

To keep it on topic - I really don't like the sitting pose.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 25, 2018, 11:55:38 AM
I don't get the love for Peachy. Her colors look like they don't mesh well and she's on a pose I don't like.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 25, 2018, 11:57:38 AM
I don't get the love for Peachy. Her colors look like they don't mesh well and she's on a pose I don't like.

I concur on this. Everyone was getting so excited about the possibility of a parlour retro release and I'm sitting thinking - does the world really need more Peachys?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on May 25, 2018, 04:48:47 PM
I don't mind getting a pony with completely faded hair. It means I can display her. Also I love faded Yum Yum.

I don't like the collector or shy pose, on topic of early ponies. I like Firefly and Glory poses but the first 2 years didn't have any earth pony poses that I liked except for sitting pose, which they only used for 2 ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Glitter Yolk on May 25, 2018, 06:39:06 PM
For some reason I just can't get into pegasi. Their poses and color schemes I find to be uninteresting. Wingers and flutterponies are out, too. The only pegasi I'd want for my collection are Locket and Starcatcher. They are their respective generational exceptions, it seems.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 25, 2018, 06:47:15 PM
For some reason I just can't get into pegasi. Their poses and color schemes I find to be uninteresting. Wingers and flutterponies are out, too. The only pegasi I'd want for my collection are Locket and Starcatcher. They are their respective generational exceptions, it seems.

That's certainly an unusual opinion. First time I've ever heard it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on May 26, 2018, 08:43:54 AM
I don't get the love for Peachy. Her colors look like they don't mesh well and she's on a pose I don't like.

I concur on this. Everyone was getting so excited about the possibility of a parlour retro release and I'm sitting thinking - does the world really need more Peachys?

Raaarrrrrr!!!!
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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 26, 2018, 09:24:17 AM
Well. That answers that question.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 26, 2018, 10:00:54 AM
I don't get the love for Peachy. Her colors look like they don't mesh well and she's on a pose I don't like.

I concur on this. Everyone was getting so excited about the possibility of a parlour retro release and I'm sitting thinking - does the world really need more Peachys?

Raaarrrrrr!!!!
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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 26, 2018, 10:02:40 AM
I don't get the love for Peachy. Her colors look like they don't mesh well and she's on a pose I don't like.

I concur on this. Everyone was getting so excited about the possibility of a parlour retro release and I'm sitting thinking - does the world really need more Peachys?

Raaarrrrrr!!!!
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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on May 26, 2018, 01:03:11 PM
Year 1 and Year 2 (minus the sitting pose) don't appeal to me as much as they seem to do to others. MLP was really brought to life as of Year 3 IMO. Oh gosh, I feel like I'm betraying the brand...

I'm with you on this. The only pony that appeals to me from the first two years is Sunbeam. I do like some ponies in Year 3, but haven't added any to my herd yet. Currently, all of my ponies are from Years 4-6 and 1 pony from Year 9.

I also have 4 European exclusives and plan to add a few more, because I think they got some of the better ponies over there. That may be an unpopular opinion; I don't know.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 26, 2018, 01:57:18 PM



I don't get the love for Peachy. Her colors look like they don't mesh well and she's on a pose I don't like.

I concur on this. Everyone was getting so excited about the possibility of a parlour retro release and I'm sitting thinking - does the world really need more Peachys?

Raaarrrrrr!!!!
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I guess it depends which European exclusives and where in Europe. The UK didn't get all those lovely y2 and 3 pegasus and unicorn ponies so it's hard for me to agree on that, but most of Europe did get them so *shrug*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on May 26, 2018, 06:35:42 PM
G1 Pegasus wings are weird. They are rows of bumps! And they are hard to draw if you want to be accurate. It took me a bit to not find them weird, but I'm fine with them now and don't really notice.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on May 26, 2018, 07:35:47 PM
G1 Pegasus wings are weird. They are rows of bumps! And they are hard to draw if you want to be accurate. It took me a bit to not find them weird, but I'm fine with them now and don't really notice.

I always thought the Firefly mold wings look like the wings are folded, like the pony just landed and folded her wings back.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 26, 2018, 08:14:01 PM
G1 Pegasus wings are weird. They are rows of bumps! And they are hard to draw if you want to be accurate. It took me a bit to not find them weird, but I'm fine with them now and don't really notice.

Corn on the cob
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on May 26, 2018, 09:29:30 PM
I guess it depends which European exclusives and where in Europe. The UK didn't get all those lovely y2 and 3 pegasus and unicorn ponies so it's hard for me to agree on that, but most of Europe did get them so *shrug*

Tafetta, was this a reply to my post here?

I also have 4 European exclusives and plan to add a few more, because I think they got some of the better ponies over there. That may be an unpopular opinion; I don't know.

I was referring to what you guys got in the UK. I'm not sure which sets you guys didn't get (other than the ones you mentioned and I think the So Softs, right?), but you got so many that I love: Hopscotch, Cascade, Good Weather, Thundercloud, Fireball, Sweet Delight, Sports Time, Painting Time, Music Time, Snowdrop, Love Story, Love Token, Patch, Bright Eyes, hollywood Northstar, hollywood Buttons, and hollywood Wind Whistler to name some.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 27, 2018, 02:18:20 AM
I guess it depends which European exclusives and where in Europe. The UK didn't get all those lovely y2 and 3 pegasus and unicorn ponies so it's hard for me to agree on that, but most of Europe did get them so *shrug*

Tafetta, was this a reply to my post here?

I also have 4 European exclusives and plan to add a few more, because I think they got some of the better ponies over there. That may be an unpopular opinion; I don't know.

I was referring to what you guys got in the UK. I'm not sure which sets you guys didn't get (other than the ones you mentioned and I think the So Softs, right?), but you got so many that I love: Hopscotch, Cascade, Good Weather, Thundercloud, Fireball, Sweet Delight, Sports Time, Painting Time, Music Time, Snowdrop, Love Story, Love Token, Patch, Bright Eyes, hollywood Northstar, hollywood Buttons, and hollywood Wind Whistler to name some.



Yeah, I was. We'll blame my lack of quoting ability on delayed jetlag? (no excuse really xD)

The trouble with European and UK releases is that they aren't uniform across the continent so different places had different ranges. And that there's the misconception we got everything plus exclusives, when actually we mostly got exclusives in place of other ponies. The early unicorns and pegasus ponies were heavily promoted here but not sold in the UK.  There are actually a lot of other sets available in the US or other places such as 2nd release princesses, TAF etc that we didn't get either. We also only had 10/15 Twinkle Eyes. So I guess overall it balances out.

Also, thank you for not calling Buttons, North Star & Wind Whistler NSS ponies :hug:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: emily_katie on May 27, 2018, 03:22:38 AM
G1 Pegasus wings are weird. They are rows of bumps! And they are hard to draw if you want to be accurate. It took me a bit to not find them weird, but I'm fine with them now and don't really notice.

Corn on the cob


I now will be unable to see wings as nothing more than corn  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on May 27, 2018, 04:36:59 AM
I have a very unpopular opinion here - regarding:

Twinkle-Eyed Bright Eyes

a pretty enough pony, but I just can't like her blue and orange colouring combo At ALL, nor am I a fan of her clock symbol either.  :shrug: :whistle: :help:

Sorry!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on May 27, 2018, 07:20:12 AM
I have a very unpopular opinion here - regarding:

Twinkle-Eyed Bright Eyes

a pretty enough pony, but I just can't like her blue and orange colouring combo At ALL, nor am I a fan of her clock symbol either.  :shrug: :whistle: :help:

Sorry!!

Well, I'm with you on this one :) I don't DISlike her, but she just does nothing for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 27, 2018, 07:22:27 AM
I have a very unpopular opinion here - regarding:

Twinkle-Eyed Bright Eyes

a pretty enough pony, but I just can't like her blue and orange colouring combo At ALL, nor am I a fan of her clock symbol either.  :shrug: :whistle: :help:

Sorry!!

I believed the same as you until my daughter got hers. WOW! Sorry, but that was when I realized how stunning she was.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on May 27, 2018, 07:49:40 AM
G1 Pegasus wings are weird. They are rows of bumps! And they are hard to draw if you want to be accurate. It took me a bit to not find them weird, but I'm fine with them now and don't really notice.

Corn on the cob
:lmao:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leikin on May 28, 2018, 01:06:08 AM
Oh, I LOVE the first years of pony releases. It is the later ones I have problems with :P

Like the 7 Tales ponies. I never understood the hype about them. I dont really like their colours (Just Clover, she is nice), but I guess that is because I had become a teenager at the time the show was airing, so I wasnt that into ponies then. ^^
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ribbon208 on May 28, 2018, 02:39:14 AM
i love the baby beddy eyes lol they are so freaking cute
i love the original girls and the collectors pose
i love any baby pony aswell lol

i dont like the twinkle eye ponys they seem creepy to me
i dont like truey pose seems annoying trying to get her to stand up lol
i dont like rehaired ponys

and finally i LOVE any pony in collectors pose from another country
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on May 28, 2018, 01:15:18 PM
Hmm, I don't know if this is unpopular or not, but I really like the jewels in G2 eyes. It's neat to sit across the room from my collection in the afternoon and see them shining and twinkling in the light  ^.^
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 28, 2018, 01:24:51 PM
I don't see why Tales gets so much flak. Especially since their is plenty slice of life episodes in FiM. More so then Friends. That seems rather hypocritical.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on May 28, 2018, 01:49:00 PM
I like My Little Pony Tales. :)



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 28, 2018, 02:14:07 PM
I don't see why Tales gets so much flak. Especially since their is plenty slice of life episodes in FiM. More so then Friends. That seems rather hypocritical.

Hear hear.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on May 28, 2018, 09:21:49 PM
Hmm, I don't know if this is unpopular or not, but I really like the jewels in G2 eyes. It's neat to sit across the room from my collection in the afternoon and see them shining and twinkling in the light  ^.^
The jewel is one of the selling points for me.

Also MLP Tales is the second best mlp cartoon in my opinion. It was much more consistently entertaining than mlp and friends.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on May 29, 2018, 05:30:55 AM
I prefer g3 cartoon because its so cheesy and cute and its not afraid to be childish
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on May 29, 2018, 05:42:58 AM
^ Honestly, the G3 cartoon is hilarious. I love it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cheshire_Raptor on May 29, 2018, 09:34:53 AM
:soapbox pony:
*Ahem*

I absolutely without question HATE the G2's and current run of MLP.  :enraged:
As in Cannot. Stand. Them.

The G2s look like snakes with legs. The newest ones from 2009 and later look like someone took an air compressor and stuck it in their ears then forgot to turn it off. I mean WTAF????

Their is a good reason they are called My Little PONY. Not My Little Snake with Legs, or My Little Air/Bubble Head.

I fell in love with the line because I could not afford an actual horse and I love them so very much (still do, still cannot afford one). WTF am I to do with a "pony" that looks NOTHING like an actual pony? Why do you think Breyers were/are so damn popular?

Talk about unrealistic expectations! Hopefully kids don't believe horses have huge bulbous heads that a real animal would NEVER be able to hold up.

*jumps off soapbox*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 29, 2018, 03:03:47 PM

I absolutely without question HATE the G2's and current run of MLP.  :enraged:
As in Cannot. Stand. Them.


There are still Shadows among us...

Each to their own :) Some of the later g2 have amazing colour schemes. I admit they don't look particularly equine, but for me they kind of lost the right to be considered realistic when they decided to make ponies pink and green.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on May 29, 2018, 03:35:30 PM
Takara ponies real or fake are just super weird to me , they dont count as ponies to me. In my eyes they are more like anthropomorphic horses.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: cookifaa on May 29, 2018, 03:45:46 PM
I love tales because I grew up watching them! They were re-run on TV in the early 2000's straight after school and I used to love watching it.

I actually forgot about it but always remembered a specific episode where one of the ponies won a competition to an island? and I spent ages tracking it down. It just so happens that the day i found out that it was Tales, I found a copy in CEX for 50p, still works and my dad was very impressed about watching it that night.

He's actually nicknamed my pony Kasper, Teddy, because hes so much like him.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 29, 2018, 03:53:59 PM

I absolutely without question HATE the G2's and current run of MLP.  :enraged:
As in Cannot. Stand. Them.


There are still Shadows among us...

Each to their own :) Some of the later g2 have amazing colour schemes. I admit they don't look particularly equine, but for me they kind of lost the right to be considered realistic when they decided to make ponies pink and green.

That last line made me think of the color changing horse in wizard of oz.

Post Merge: May 29, 2018, 03:54:30 PM

I love tales because I grew up watching them! They were re-run on TV in the early 2000's straight after school and I used to love watching it.

I actually forgot about it but always remembered a specific episode where one of the ponies won a competition to an island? and I spent ages tracking it down. It just so happens that the day i found out that it was Tales, I found a copy in CEX for 50p, still works and my dad was very impressed about watching it that night.

He's actually nicknamed my pony Kasper, Teddy, because hes so much like him.

That's cute.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessNikki on May 29, 2018, 08:46:05 PM
:soapbox pony:

The G2s look like snakes with legs.

oh my god you're right

and then the 3.5 look like ducks.....What's next?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on May 31, 2018, 12:00:10 AM
:soapbox pony:

The G2s look like snakes with legs.

oh my god you're right

and then the 3.5 look like ducks.....What's next?
4.5 look feline
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 31, 2018, 06:18:01 AM
:soapbox pony:

The G2s look like snakes with legs.

oh my god you're right

and then the 3.5 look like ducks.....What's next?
4.5 look feline

My boyfriend says the G4s look like chihuahuas. I can't say I disagree.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on May 31, 2018, 06:27:27 AM
Not sure if this is particularly unpopular, but even though Pink Dreams is one of my favourite ponies, I really think she should have been a different type of pony. Maybe a regular baby or adult. A flutter with a sleeping cat just seems off. Flutters should be all about flowers and flying/wind-related things!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 31, 2018, 06:40:06 AM
Not sure if this is particularly unpopular, but even though Pink Dreams is one of my favourite ponies, I really think she should have been a different type of pony. Maybe a regular baby or adult. A flutter with a sleeping cat just seems off. Flutters should be all about flowers and flying/wind-related things!

Love it seems makes flyin dreams, so hearts can soooar.

;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on May 31, 2018, 09:43:52 AM
Not sure if this is particularly unpopular, but even though Pink Dreams is one of my favourite ponies, I really think she should have been a different type of pony. Maybe a regular baby or adult. A flutter with a sleeping cat just seems off. Flutters should be all about flowers and flying/wind-related things!
It's because she was created for the Slumber Party Gift Pack. She was a Flutter Pony for variety (and because the Flutters were big at the time), and has a sleeping cat because everyone in that pack has a sleep-related name and symbol. Pillow Talk the TAF pony has pillows, Nightcap the First Tooth Baby has nightcaps, Sleep Tight and Sleepy Head the Newborn Twins have a bassinet and a set of pajamas. Yum Yum (similarly an oddball among the Flutters, as she has candies for her symbol) has the same kind of deal - she was created for the Party Gift Pack and given a sweets motif to fit the theme since sweets are generally provided at parties.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 31, 2018, 09:50:20 AM
Takara ponies real or fake are just super weird to me , they dont count as ponies to me. In my eyes they are more like anthropomorphic horses.

I agree.  They don't do anything for me.

About the G2s looking like snakes with legs (lol) they also kind of look like brontosaurus.  Like, Berry Bright and Cutesaurus seem related when you look at those necks.

The earlier G4 MLPs (not the current ones) look a lot like deer or mice.   For some reason they made their ears HUGE in comparison with their bodies, and even in comparison with how they look on the show. 

They also told Lauren Faust that they couldn't have more G1-ish ears (like, more triangular) because "sharp angles are for boys, rounded shapes are for girls."  Wh-what?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on May 31, 2018, 10:02:21 AM
ZeldaTheSwordsman:

I knew. :) And I understand the concept; of course they had to promote as much pony types as possible. But still it just doesn't seem right to me. I love her though, she's actually next to my bed together with some other favourites!

Love it seems makes flyin dreams, so hearts can soooar.

;)

Haha, true!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 31, 2018, 10:08:31 AM
Takara ponies real or fake are just super weird to me , they dont count as ponies to me. In my eyes they are more like anthropomorphic horses.

I agree.  They don't do anything for me.

About the G2s looking like snakes with legs (lol) they also kind of look like brontosaurus.  Like, Berry Bright and Cutesaurus seem related when you look at those necks.

The earlier G4 MLPs (not the current ones) look a lot like deer or mice.   For some reason they made their ears HUGE in comparison with their bodies, and even in comparison with how they look on the show. 

They also told Lauren Faust that they couldn't have more G1-ish ears (like, more triangular) because "sharp angles are for boys, rounded shapes are for girls."  Wh-what?


Whaaat? Who spouts this tripe?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on May 31, 2018, 10:47:40 AM
People from Planet Marketing, that's who.

I will say that the G1 ears are sometimes a bit too triangular, as in looking more like cat ears, but that is still utterly trashy reasoning on Hasbro's part.

It's honestly not surprising that the G4 toys have some awkwardness to their looks in ways. The designs of most characters, while they try to follow a horse-y body shape, are heavily stylized especially when it comes to the heads and on top of that the animation is often guilty of cheated angle (especially in early seasons). Trying to capture that in 3D? I can't say I envy the designers.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 31, 2018, 11:26:56 AM
People from Planet Marketing, that's who.

I will say that the G1 ears are sometimes a bit too triangular, as in looking more like cat ears, but that is still utterly trashy reasoning on Hasbro's part.

It's honestly not surprising that the G4 toys have some awkwardness to their looks in ways. The designs of most characters, while they try to follow a horse-y body shape, are heavily stylized especially when it comes to the heads and on top of that the animation is often guilty of cheated angle (especially in early seasons). Trying to capture that in 3D? I can't say I envy the designers.

Ugh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: blazywazy110 on June 01, 2018, 05:45:29 PM
I don't know if anyone has said this, but, in my opinion....

The g3 cartoon is terrriiiibbblllleeee!!!! Yikes the voices! Yikes the creepy faces! Yikes the songs that go on forever and contain nothing of substance!



Props to those who can get enjoyment out if it, though. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RoseNoire on June 01, 2018, 07:34:19 PM
They also told Lauren Faust that they couldn't have more G1-ish ears (like, more triangular) because "sharp angles are for boys, rounded shapes are for girls."  Wh-what?

Well, this kind of logic is just chilling. I fear for the worst regarding G5 now. ._.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on June 02, 2018, 10:54:52 AM
The g3 cartoon is terrriiiibbblllleeee!!!! Yikes the voices!

Lots of G3 voice actors are now voicing G4 ponies :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Miniature Sheep on June 02, 2018, 01:01:03 PM
I'm not much of a fan of pearly ponies; they give me a bit of a Silent Hill vibe, like how everyone always seems to have really gross, clammy skin. :|
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BubbleTea on June 02, 2018, 02:07:54 PM
I'm not much of a fan of pearly ponies; they give me a bit of a Silent Hill vibe, like how everyone always seems to have really gross, clammy skin. :|

THIS. What really bugs me is when the eyes are pearly too. It makes it hard to see their eyes and it doesn't make sense for the eyes to be pearly in the first place.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 02, 2018, 02:24:37 PM
I'm not much of a fan of pearly ponies; they give me a bit of a Silent Hill vibe, like how everyone always seems to have really gross, clammy skin. :|

That's an interesting way of looking at things.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on June 02, 2018, 03:56:51 PM
I'm not much of a fan of pearly ponies; they give me a bit of a Silent Hill vibe, like how everyone always seems to have really gross, clammy skin. :|

I don't care for them either.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: blazywazy110 on June 07, 2018, 06:15:14 PM
The g3 cartoon is terrriiiibbblllleeee!!!! Yikes the voices!

Lots of G3 voice actors are now voicing G4 ponies :lol:

In the new G4 show they don't sound like adult babies with brain issues.  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 07, 2018, 06:20:28 PM
The g3 cartoon is terrriiiibbblllleeee!!!! Yikes the voices!

Lots of G3 voice actors are now voicing G4 ponies :lol:

In the new G4 show they don't sound like adult babies with brain issues.  :rolleyes:

Your gonna tell me that G4 Pinkie Pie doesn't sound like an insane, screeching chipmunk on helium?  I find that hard to believe.

At least  G3 Pinkie doesn't crank it up past 11.

 Shining Armor sounds like a smug dude-bro.

Fluttershy's timid voice is incredibly fake and forced.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: blazywazy110 on June 07, 2018, 06:25:35 PM
The g3 cartoon is terrriiiibbblllleeee!!!! Yikes the voices!

Lots of G3 voice actors are now voicing G4 ponies :lol:

In the new G4 show they don't sound like adult babies with brain issues.  :rolleyes:

Your gonna tell me that G4 Pinkie Pie doesn't sound like an insane, screeching chipmunk on helium?  I find that hard to believe. Even G3 Pinkie doesn't crank up it past 11.

Plus Shining Armor sounds like a smug dude-bro.

The thing about Pinkie Pie is that she's used in moderation with the rest of the group. It's not terrible  24/7 like in g3 where they think constant noise is necessary to keep a kid's attention.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 07, 2018, 06:27:58 PM
The g3 cartoon is terrriiiibbblllleeee!!!! Yikes the voices!

Lots of G3 voice actors are now voicing G4 ponies :lol:

In the new G4 show they don't sound like adult babies with brain issues.  :rolleyes:

Your gonna tell me that G4 Pinkie Pie doesn't sound like an insane, screeching chipmunk on helium?  I find that hard to believe. Even G3 Pinkie doesn't crank up it past 11.

Plus Shining Armor sounds like a smug dude-bro.

The thing about Pinkie Pie is that she's used in moderation with the rest of the group. It's not terrible  24/7 like in g3 where they think constant noise is necessary to keep a kid's attention.  :rolleyes:

Switch that around. G4's voice is painful to the ears and I've seen sugar rushed toddlers who didn't act  that hyper and insane. G3 Pinkie was  happy n giggly, but not absolutely awful to watch and she knew when to be mellow.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: blazywazy110 on June 07, 2018, 06:49:12 PM
Yikes you really are in the land of dreams.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on June 07, 2018, 06:59:39 PM
I liked Pinkie Pie more when her character had more depth instead of a constant running gag of silly faces and acted really crazy all the time.  in Too Many Pinkie Pies Pinkie realized the consequences of her actions and even came up with contest idea when she realized the Pinkie clones were making her lose her friends.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessNikki on June 07, 2018, 08:46:38 PM
I'm not much of a fan of pearly ponies; they give me a bit of a Silent Hill vibe, like how everyone always seems to have really gross, clammy skin. :|

THIS. What really bugs me is when the eyes are pearly too. It makes it hard to see their eyes and it doesn't make sense for the eyes to be pearly in the first place.

I completely agree with you on that. what in the world compelled them to pearlize the eyes?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 07, 2018, 10:46:08 PM
I agree about G4 Pinkie degenerating into a one-dimensional and often abrasive (such as in instances where her silly actions repeatedly hurt a friend's feelings.. despite her being established as not having a mean bone in her body and caring about her friends' feelings and opinions considerably) gag character in later seasons.. It's a mark of the show's writing quality decaying from fatigue as it goes on.

I enjoy the G3 cartoon, what I've seen of it. It's sappy, but I don't find anyone's voice overly high-pitched and characters treat each other decently. And I liked Razzaroo's speech quirk of saying "Yes, yes, yes" - that actually compelled me to buy her.

I'm not much of a fan of pearly ponies; they give me a bit of a Silent Hill vibe, like how everyone always seems to have really gross, clammy skin. :|

THIS. What really bugs me is when the eyes are pearly too. It makes it hard to see their eyes and it doesn't make sense for the eyes to be pearly in the first place.

I completely agree with you on that. what in the world compelled them to pearlize the eyes?
Management-enforced laziness, probably. Pearlizing the eyes would be simpler and cheaper than masking them off when applying the pearlized finish.

I think So-Softs are wonderful and cuddly and people who deflock them "just because" are vandalizing meanies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Esbayne on June 08, 2018, 12:28:06 AM
I have to admit, I'm fully aware the G3 movies were bad but god do I love them.
Thistle Whistle's speech impediment was so endearing, too! Speaking of Razaroo. Her whistle-lisp made me want her pony sooo badly as a kid because I found it adorable. Never got her, but when I got Wind Whistler as a kid that's how I made her talk, too.

G3 ponies had a surprising amount of depth to their personality, when they weren't backgrounders. Kimono and Minty for example?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 08, 2018, 10:50:19 AM
I'm not much of a fan of pearly ponies; they give me a bit of a Silent Hill vibe, like how everyone always seems to have really gross, clammy skin. :|

THIS. What really bugs me is when the eyes are pearly too. It makes it hard to see their eyes and it doesn't make sense for the eyes to be pearly in the first place.

I completely agree with you on that. what in the world compelled them to pearlize the eyes?

Yeah. I don't care for the eyes of the pearlized baby pony set. They look weird.

Post Merge: June 08, 2018, 10:51:36 AM

I have to admit, I'm fully aware the G3 movies were bad but god do I love them.
Thistle Whistle's speech impediment was so endearing, too! Speaking of Razaroo. Her whistle-lisp made me want her pony sooo badly as a kid because I found it adorable. Never got her, but when I got Wind Whistler as a kid that's how I made her talk, too.

G3 ponies had a surprising amount of depth to their personality, when they weren't backgrounders. Kimono and Minty for example?

I adore Thistle and Razz.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on June 08, 2018, 11:08:27 AM
I actually really like the animation in some of the g3 movies, like Princess Promenade. And I agree that some g3s had interesting personalities. I always loved Sunny Daze in the cartoons.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 11, 2018, 07:56:54 PM
I like the second set of Princess Ponies. Particularly Pristina, Misty, Taffeta and Moondust. Granted, I wish the tinsel was done better, but they're still a very pretty set.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 13, 2018, 01:15:11 AM
I like the second set of Princess Ponies. Particularly Pristina, Misty, Taffeta and Moondust. Granted, I wish the tinsel was done better, but they're still a very pretty set.

I like them too :D I wish they had been sold here in the UK :(
Though Pearl will always be my darling in the princess stakes.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 13, 2018, 06:33:48 AM
I like the second set of Princess Ponies. Particularly Pristina, Misty, Taffeta and Moondust. Granted, I wish the tinsel was done better, but they're still a very pretty set.

I like them too :D I wish they had been sold here in the UK :(
Though Pearl will always be my darling in the princess stakes.

I didn't know that? Stingy Hasbro.

Tiffany/Pearl is one I'm biased towards, as she was a childhood pony. I also love Starburst/Amber and Primrose/Ruby.

I wonder what the second set of princesses would've been named if they'd been sold there? Although I like their names just fine and think they suit them well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 13, 2018, 07:03:15 AM
I like the second set of Princess Ponies. Particularly Pristina, Misty, Taffeta and Moondust. Granted, I wish the tinsel was done better, but they're still a very pretty set.

I like them too :D I wish they had been sold here in the UK :(
Though Pearl will always be my darling in the princess stakes.

I didn't know that? Stingy Hasbro.

Tiffany/Pearl is one I'm biased towards, as she was a childhood pony. I also love Starburst/Amber and Primrose/Ruby.

I wonder what the second set of princesses would've been named if they'd been sold there? Although I like their names just fine and think they suit them well.

I like them too. I would have kept the names the same over here, if it had been up to me, as well. We didn't have any pony called Sunbeam in the UK. We did have 'Princess Moondust' (the orange petite with the castle was called that here) but we certainly didn't have a Dawn, Pristina or Taffeta either. And actually, we didn't have a Misty, because we only had four of the six Watercolor babies, and that wasn't one. Oh, wait. We had the petite Misty, but Petites somehow don't count the same?

So the names would've been new and different :)

Hasbro are stingy. We had the first set in both 1987 and 1988. Leading to confusion about accessories forevermore after that...seems they weren't consistent between years.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on June 13, 2018, 08:10:24 AM
Yay a fellow Tiffany fan. I wanted her since I was a kid and finally got her over a year ago. White hair, white body, she was the perfect dream pony for me. The name Tiffany was weird for a pony but it fit the theme of spoiled ponies because Tiffany is an expensive brand, I think. "Her mind is Tiffany twisted, she's got a Mercedes-Benz."
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 13, 2018, 09:30:01 AM
Yay a fellow Tiffany fan. I wanted her since I was a kid and finally got her over a year ago. White hair, white body, she was the perfect dream pony for me. The name Tiffany was weird for a pony but it fit the theme of spoiled ponies because Tiffany is an expensive brand, I think. "Her mind is Tiffany twisted, she's got a Mercedes-Benz."

I think if the animated characterisation of the princesses had been the main thing here I wouldn't have wanted any of them. It still breaks my heart to think of spoiled Princess Tiffany behaving like a brat. Pearl was such a beautiful, sensitive and artistic soul in the UK comics. All the princesses had great characters, but Pearl was special <3.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 13, 2018, 10:59:29 AM
Yay a fellow Tiffany fan. I wanted her since I was a kid and finally got her over a year ago. White hair, white body, she was the perfect dream pony for me. The name Tiffany was weird for a pony but it fit the theme of spoiled ponies because Tiffany is an expensive brand, I think. "Her mind is Tiffany twisted, she's got a Mercedes-Benz."

I think if the animated characterisation of the princesses had been the main thing here I wouldn't have wanted any of them. It still breaks my heart to think of spoiled Princess Tiffany behaving like a brat. Pearl was such a beautiful, sensitive and artistic soul in the UK comics. All the princesses had great characters, but Pearl was special <3.

All six of them were behaving like spoiled brats. :rolleyes:

 I guess there's nothing like a lava demon attack to mature people in a hurry. XD

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on June 13, 2018, 11:07:46 AM
I hope to read the UK comics eventually. I wasn't crazy able the spoiled princesses in the cartoon but Tiffany was gorgeous to me regardless.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kissthethunder on June 13, 2018, 12:51:57 PM
Oh gosh yes, I love the second set of princess ponies! I was lucky enough to find Misty with all her accessories at an estate sale, i mean, even her ribbon and crown clip! It was amazing!

I hope I have similar luck finding the others, they can be a downright headache to find with any of their stuff :C

I have the accessories for Tiffany who was a childhood pony and Serena but I haven't found them when I was in the market to buy, and of course I love unfaded pink hair so I have to shell out more for that. I really want to get Tiff again. I traded her to another girl when I was young and stupid and the next time I saw her she'd cut all her hair off...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on June 13, 2018, 01:47:09 PM
I love Tiffany/Pearl :) I love was lucky enough to find her on Ebay with all of her accessories and Bushwoolies



I also don’t like their personalities in the cartoon, they’re too vain and selfish. I would have loved to read the comic stores about them. :) I guess Primrose/Ruby is my least favorite of the 1st set but that might change when I see one in person.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on June 13, 2018, 03:41:23 PM
I love faded pink hair on most ponies. It just isn't worth the extra money for me to buy a pony with that pink hair if I can't display it. I'd rather not buy a pony with unfaded hair than buy it and not be able to display it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kissthethunder on June 13, 2018, 03:47:05 PM
Their personalities were indeed terrible int he show. They at least learned and grew, but I would have liked to see them again afterwards to see their true personalities without all the spoiled bratty sass. Their toys were amazing though <3 Just wish we'd had their sweet little dragons in the US as well but it was nice to get bushwoolies from the show with crowns that corresponded to the show, that was a neat detail!

See, that pink hair is an appealing color to me. I love it when I can find one who's had their face completely white because sometimes it makes for an interesting alternate.

I may buckle down and just repink just to save money.

Unpopular pony opinion? I think some peoples rehairs of ponies look a million times better than official release.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 13, 2018, 04:10:02 PM
I love faded pink hair on most ponies. It just isn't worth the extra money for me to buy a pony with that pink hair if I can't display it. I'd rather not buy a pony with unfaded hair than buy it and not be able to display it.

I love the pink hair too. And I admit, I will go the extra mile to get a pink haired one if I have the opportunity. I kept my Trucker because his streak was pink (he was originally in a lot of trade ponies). I think my Posey came about likewise. I just kept another Kiss Curl because of her pink hair...and I wasn't going to get Tornado until I found a pink haired one, which changed my mind. Yeah, they have to live in the cupboard but *shrug* to me it's worth it because they look so nice :D

Re the UK comics - I believe LM is working on that ;) then everyone will be able to read them :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on June 13, 2018, 09:29:43 PM
I didn't know Trucker had a fading streak. That may be an exception for me. The only other pony I have whose pink I want to keep are a couple of g3 childhood ponies and my new Wysteria (3? 4?)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 14, 2018, 08:20:38 AM
I prefer the name Princess Starburst over Princess Amber. I mean Amber is a really pretty name and all, but one particularly horrible bully ruined it for me. Plus I love Starburst shapes and candy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 14, 2018, 08:22:13 AM
I prefer the name Princess Starburst over Princess Amber. I mean Amber is a really pretty name and all, but one particularly horrible bully ruined it for me. Plus I love Starburst shapes and candy.

Amber is my middle name :'( I'm sorry you met a bad one :(

Starburst used to be Opal Fruits over here. I quite like the German name, I think she's Topaz?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 14, 2018, 08:24:13 AM
I like the second set of Princess Ponies. Particularly Pristina, Misty, Taffeta and Moondust. Granted, I wish the tinsel was done better, but they're still a very pretty set.

I like them too :D I wish they had been sold here in the UK :(
Though Pearl will always be my darling in the princess stakes.

I didn't know that? Stingy Hasbro.

Tiffany/Pearl is one I'm biased towards, as she was a childhood pony. I also love Starburst/Amber and Primrose/Ruby.

I wonder what the second set of princesses would've been named if they'd been sold there? Although I like their names just fine and think they suit them well.

I like them too. I would have kept the names the same over here, if it had been up to me, as well. We didn't have any pony called Sunbeam in the UK. We did have 'Princess Moondust' (the orange petite with the castle was called that here) but we certainly didn't have a Dawn, Pristina or Taffeta either. And actually, we didn't have a Misty, because we only had four of the six Watercolor babies, and that wasn't one. Oh, wait. We had the petite Misty, but Petites somehow don't count the same?

So the names would've been new and different :)

Hasbro are stingy. We had the first set in both 1987 and 1988. Leading to confusion about accessories forevermore after that...seems they weren't consistent between years.

It's funny that the second princess set has ponies named Misty and Dawn. That's my favorite aunty's name.

Post Merge: June 14, 2018, 08:26:43 AM

I prefer the name Princess Starburst over Princess Amber. I mean Amber is a really pretty name and all, but one particularly horrible bully kinda ruined it for me. Plus I love Starburst shapes and candy.

Amber is my middle name :'( I'm sorry you met a bad one :(

Starburst used to be Opal Fruits over here. I quite like the German name, I think she's Topaz?

I did have two different friends named Amber growing up. :hug:  And as I said, it's a pretty name. So I don't have anything against it. Or people named after it. Just that one person.

Opal Fruits? That's interesting. Topaz is such a pretty name.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 14, 2018, 08:28:28 AM
I can actually relate. I have a similar feeling for Tiffany. :hug:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 14, 2018, 08:29:34 AM
I can actually relate. I have a similar feeling for Tiffany. :hug:

Plus now I've got another friend named Amber. ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 14, 2018, 08:32:30 AM
I can actually relate. I have a similar feeling for Tiffany. :hug:

Plus now I've got another friend named Amber. ;)

:lovey:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on June 14, 2018, 09:14:56 AM
I prefer the name Princess Starburst over Princess Amber. I mean Amber is a really pretty name and all, but one particularly horrible bully ruined it for me. Plus I love Starburst shapes and candy.
Aww. It was the opposite for me. When most of my 3rd grade class followed the bully's example and avoided me and my "germs", my friend Amber was the only one who would spend time with me.

Post Merge: June 14, 2018, 09:16:57 AM


It's funny that the second princess set has ponies named Misty and Dawn. That's my favorite aunty's name.
They're also main characters in Pokemon.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 18, 2018, 07:08:13 PM
I like Sunshimmer better then Sunset Shimmer.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: poniesthatsparkle on June 19, 2018, 05:39:27 PM
I like Sunshimmer better then Sunset Shimmer.

I totally agree. I'd take Sunshimmer over Sunset Shimmer any day.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 20, 2018, 09:46:53 AM
I like Sunshimmer better then Sunset Shimmer.

I totally agree. I'd take Sunshimmer over Sunset Shimmer any day.

I like Sunset Shimmer, but I think if we were just talking between the physical ponies, I'd like them both the same. I am just very attached to Sunset Shimmer in the EQG incarnation...

I love their colours, so the more red/orange/yellow ponies the better in my view :D Definitely room for both in my pony world :D Sunshimmer is one of my favourite G3s as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 20, 2018, 08:52:56 PM
I...I took a whiff of my daughter's Coconut Grove. :huh: I dunno if the smell has mutated with age, or if hasbro legit doesn't know what coconut smells like, but I did not find it particularly pleasant. It's kinda put me off getting one for myself.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on June 20, 2018, 11:01:31 PM
I...I took a whiff of my daughter's Coconut Grove. :huh: I dunno if the smell has mutated with age, or if hasbro legit doesn't know what coconut smells like, but I did not find it particularly pleasant. It's kinda put me off getting one for myself.
She smelled vaguely sweet to me, I think? My sister had one as a kid but the scent is long gone iirc.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: cookifaa on June 21, 2018, 03:25:36 AM
I...I took a whiff of my daughter's Coconut Grove. :huh: I dunno if the smell has mutated with age, or if hasbro legit doesn't know what coconut smells like, but I did not find it particularly pleasant. It's kinda put me off getting one for myself.

I have two of Coconut Grove, one was a childhood pony and the other i got in a bundle a few months back. My childhood coconut smells sweet like coconut but the other one, oh my god, she smells awful. I really want to soak her in some perfume for a few months to get rid of the smell >_<
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 21, 2018, 06:08:40 AM
Good luck Cookiefaa. Its a shame, she's a gorgeous girl. Reminds me of Whizzer a bit.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 21, 2018, 06:15:35 AM
I...I took a whiff of my daughter's Coconut Grove. :huh: I dunno if the smell has mutated with age, or if hasbro legit doesn't know what coconut smells like, but I did not find it particularly pleasant. It's kinda put me off getting one for myself.

The only pegasus from my g3 collection I sold without regret.
If I ever find one with no scent, she will come home with me. I had her from store and honestly...that's not a nice smell. Coconut Grove and I think Citrus Sweetheart...both ponies I love the look of but cannot stand the smell so sold them.

Now I get funny looks at toy fairs when I sniff the pony :) But I am not buying one with its scent intact ever again. I have picked up a couple of scented G3 at fairs which have faded to tolerable levels. I am hopeful one day I can re-add those two ponies to my collection without the pong.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 21, 2018, 06:20:12 AM
I hope you do find some. The Sunny Scents are such a pretty set. Tangerine Sunset smells strongly still. Though my daughter has had her all these years, and whatever scent Thistle Whistle had, has faded to a very faint, sweet scent before my daughter got her.


I don't like Discord as a villain. Plus it annoys me that they took a creature from Asian mythology and called it something else completely.

I think G4 Smooze is cute, but super sucky in comparison to the menace of the original. Why bother calling it the smooze then? It's not even a villain. Its essentially gak that gained life and ruined the antique carpet. Plus they all just stood there and stared at it like a bunch of idiots. I don't get how meditation and cosmic, chakra alignment made it shrink.

 I don't mind G3 Spike, and I think G4 Spike is both annoying and pitiable. He gets treated like a servant and a nuisance.

I wish the Wingers and merponies had gotten episodes and I wish we'd had sea pony centric episodes.

I will never call g4 merponies sea ponies. They aren't and Hasbro dropped the ball.

I only like three of the birthday jewel g3s. I'd like April, if her symbol didn't look more like an eye.

I'm not crazy about most of the G3 Sweet Scented Ponies designs, aside from Butter Pop, Pretty Pop and Soda Float.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Matcha on June 22, 2018, 10:05:14 AM
I don't like G3 babies... they look disproportionate and their faces are weird.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on June 22, 2018, 11:32:56 PM
OK - this one will be unpopular, sorry in advance!

G1  Rapunzel -

for sure a much-loved, much coveted (and rare/expensive) pony...

but I just don't admire her yellow/pink colour combo all that much  :bolt:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Esbayne on June 22, 2018, 11:41:37 PM
I...I took a whiff of my daughter's Coconut Grove. :huh: I dunno if the smell has mutated with age, or if hasbro legit doesn't know what coconut smells like, but I did not find it particularly pleasant. It's kinda put me off getting one for myself.

The only pegasus from my g3 collection I sold without regret.
If I ever find one with no scent, she will come home with me. I had her from store and honestly...that's not a nice smell. Coconut Grove and I think Citrus Sweetheart...both ponies I love the look of but cannot stand the smell so sold them.

Now I get funny looks at toy fairs when I sniff the pony :) But I am not buying one with its scent intact ever again. I have picked up a couple of scented G3 at fairs which have faded to tolerable levels. I am hopeful one day I can re-add those two ponies to my collection without the pong.

I noticed my OOB Coconut Grove has a bit of a different smell to her now, but I still love it. It's almost like G1 pony smell to me, just this blast of childhood nostalgia. She was my first pegasus when they came out for G3, somehow my mother won one of the "First 50" for me, and she remains in box to this day (my only MIB), and smells like she always did. I got another one to debox and play with, she smells a little different now but still very good, in my opinion. I've never gotten to smell any of the other scented ponies, from any gens, so I'm not sure if I'd like them or not, but I have a feeling I might, I really like fruity/sweet/light perfume smells.

Maybe that is an unpopular opinion of mine, liking scented ponies. :lol: I know they seem to bother a lot of people and even give some headaches.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on June 23, 2018, 01:06:20 AM
OK - this one will be unpopular, sorry in advance!

G1  Rapunzel -

for sure a much-loved, much coveted (and rare/expensive) pony...

but I just don't admire her yellow/pink colour combo all that much  :bolt:

I like her colors, but I don't like her hair.


I can't remember if I shared this one:
Mimic is my least favorite TE unicorn, and my second least favorite TE overall after Quackers.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PoserBeachball on June 23, 2018, 01:53:24 AM
OK - this one will be unpopular, sorry in advance!

G1  Rapunzel -

for sure a much-loved, much coveted (and rare/expensive) pony...

but I just don't admire her yellow/pink colour combo all that much  :bolt:

You are not alone, can't say I like her that much either  (good thing too, I have far too many expensive ponies on my wish list as it is)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 23, 2018, 02:56:13 AM
OK - this one will be unpopular, sorry in advance!

G1  Rapunzel -

for sure a much-loved, much coveted (and rare/expensive) pony...

but I just don't admire her yellow/pink colour combo all that much  :bolt:

You are not alone, can't say I like her that much either  (good thing too, I have far too many expensive ponies on my wish list as it is)

This is a surprisingly popular opinion, actually :) A lot of people don't like her that much.

I think the reason people say that they do or don't like her relates to her price and the fact that because of it she stands out in people's minds. I think if she was a $10 pony she'd get discussed a lot less.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on June 23, 2018, 04:43:27 AM
I think Twilight Sparkle is an incredibly boring character. If she was a real person I'd stuff her into her locker.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on June 23, 2018, 05:47:23 AM

I don't like Discord as a villain. Plus it annoys me that they took a creature from Asian mythology and called it something else completely.






I'm not a big fan of Discord either and I usually don't care for the episodes focused on him. I did like him  in  "To Where and Back Again" and he was okay in "Twilight's Kingdom" He didn't seem truly reformed to me most of the time anyway.




I can't remember if I shared this one:
Mimic is my least favorite TE unicorn, and my second least favorite TE overall after Quackers.


I'm also not a big fan of Mimc. 


Ponyfan


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 23, 2018, 08:28:30 AM
I think Twilight Sparkle is an incredibly boring character. If she was a real person I'd stuff her into her locker.

YES, this. I haven't seen much of the show but what I have seen of it, I always find Twilight's scenes so... boring... x___x;
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 23, 2018, 08:53:43 AM
I don't care for Baby Splosh. Unique and cool symbol. Boring colors.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 23, 2018, 11:43:18 AM
I think Twilight Sparkle is an incredibly boring character. If she was a real person I'd stuff her into her locker.

She is boring. But when you put it in context with Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash, boring is a relief.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 23, 2018, 02:15:02 PM
I think Flippity-flop is kinda cute. Her symbol and name are lame , but she has great colors.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 23, 2018, 02:16:14 PM
I think Flippity-flop is kinda cute. Her symbol and name are lame , but she has great colors.

Seconded on all levels. Feel bad for her for that name. Even Flip-Flop would;ve been better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: cookifaa on June 23, 2018, 03:54:56 PM
The only pegasus from my g3 collection I sold without regret.
If I ever find one with no scent, she will come home with me. I had her from store and honestly...that's not a nice smell. Coconut Grove and I think Citrus Sweetheart...both ponies I love the look of but cannot stand the smell so sold them.

Citrus Sweetheart is one of my favourite ponies. Shes one of the only ones I actually remember buying and she still has the same orange smell to her after all these years, touch wood she wont loose it. Orange is one of my favourite scents and flavours!

I understand the disgusting smells though, my friend has one of her and she has one of the worst scents I've ever had the displeasure of smelling. Almost level with Coconut Grove. Its a shame their original scents fade and distort >_<
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on June 23, 2018, 06:27:54 PM
Maybe that is an unpopular opinion of mine, liking scented ponies. :lol: I know they seem to bother a lot of people and even give some headaches.

For me this varies greatly depending upon the scented pony, but I only have experience with a few. I had Blueberry Baskets and Raspberry Jam as a child. I can still vividly remember their scents even though I got rid of those ponies like 25 years ago. They were extremely pleasant scents that bring wonderful memories when I think of them.

With the G3 scents, I can only recall two: Apple Spice & Lavender Lake. And wow what a difference between those two setmates. Apple Spice had a wonderful scent. Lavender Lake though....yuck!!!! Her scent was unpleasant, overpowering, and nauseating.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lilimyu on June 23, 2018, 07:47:02 PM
I think g4 pony have a better design than G1 ponies (anyway i still  love them )
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 25, 2018, 05:22:30 PM
I don't do the bidding thing ever. I buy now. Partly because I never have luck with that sort of thing. Partly because I'm afraid of what'll happen if I win and end up paying way more then whatever that pony costs.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on June 25, 2018, 05:31:07 PM
 :hmm:
Sometimes I feel like tossing ponies in the garbage.
I won't. But I feel like it because it's too much of a hassle to sell single semi-common ponies these days. (This is about seashell btw).

 :lol: How is THAT for unpopular.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BubbleTea on June 25, 2018, 05:33:00 PM
:hmm:
Sometimes I feel like tossing ponies in the garbage.
I won't. But I feel like it because it's too much of a hassle to sell single semi-common ponies these days. (This is about seashell btw).

 :lol: How is THAT for unpopular.


NOOOoooo
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on June 25, 2018, 05:45:55 PM
:hmm:
Sometimes I feel like tossing ponies in the garbage.
I won't. But I feel like it because it's too much of a hassle to sell single semi-common ponies these days. (This is about seashell btw).

 :lol: How is THAT for unpopular.

Thrift store donations?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on June 25, 2018, 06:11:50 PM
:hmm:
Sometimes I feel like tossing ponies in the garbage.
I won't. But I feel like it because it's too much of a hassle to sell single semi-common ponies these days. (This is about seashell btw).

 :lol: How is THAT for unpopular.

Thrift store donations?

Garbage can is in my house. Finding a thrift store would cost me time i don't have (don't need to make a WYP here).

The point was it's my opinion :p
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on June 25, 2018, 06:22:15 PM
*raids banditpony's trash*

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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on June 25, 2018, 06:31:32 PM
I LOVE the Sunshine Pony set. Their gimmick is so cute! Apparently this is unpopular? Or no one favors them that much? They're my favorite!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 25, 2018, 06:48:49 PM
I LOVE the Sunshine Pony set. Their gimmick is so cute! Apparently this is unpopular? Or no one favors them that much? They're my favorite!

It is? I think they're a fantastic set. Wave Runner is high on my wishlist and Seaflower, Mainsail and Sand Digger are such cute girls.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caracallie on June 25, 2018, 06:51:23 PM
I used to think that the flutter ponies were so cute!! Then I saw their size... honestly, one of the things I love is the size of the G1 ponies, and apparently the flutters are tiny in comparison. Now they're one of my least favorites, behind the big sister ponies. Those are the worst  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on June 25, 2018, 07:25:50 PM
I LOVE the Sunshine Pony set. Their gimmick is so cute! Apparently this is unpopular? Or no one favors them that much? They're my favorite!


I love this set too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on June 25, 2018, 07:56:51 PM
*raids banditpony's trash*

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 :lmao:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on June 26, 2018, 02:25:40 AM
I LOVE the Sunshine Pony set. Their gimmick is so cute! Apparently this is unpopular? Or no one favors them that much? They're my favorite!

I've been searching for a Seaflower since the dawn of time but she seems so loved, nobody wants to sell her for a fair price here. Always see her starting at 20€.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 26, 2018, 02:29:22 AM
I LOVE the Sunshine Pony set. Their gimmick is so cute! Apparently this is unpopular? Or no one favors them that much? They're my favorite!

I've been searching for a Seaflower since the dawn of time but she seems so loved, nobody wants to sell her for a fair price here. Always see her starting at 20€.

Was she sold in Germany? She wasn't part of the European set but I know some European countries had the extra ponies from sets and some didn't. I had to import both Sea Flower and Shoreline from the US.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on June 26, 2018, 07:27:18 AM
:hmm:
Sometimes I feel like tossing ponies in the garbage.
I won't. But I feel like it because it's too much of a hassle to sell single semi-common ponies these days. (This is about seashell btw).

 :lol: How is THAT for unpopular.

Haha, same here. XD Especially baits, fakies, G2, G3 and G4 (and obviously G3.5, but I didn't think I needed to mention that, oh wait...). I am not a customizer, restorer or a collector of the generations mentioned above. Shipping abroad is crazy here, so it's not worth it to sell them either. They just take up a lot of space I cannot spare, so I really just want to throw them out. 

...But I can't. I already feel like a bad pony mother because I prefer ponies in good condition, so throwing them out would just make me feel worse. XD It'll probably happen though, one day...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 26, 2018, 08:00:43 AM
I love the original My Little Pony the Movie. I still think its a lot of fun.

Post Merge: June 26, 2018, 08:01:08 AM

:hmm:
Sometimes I feel like tossing ponies in the garbage.
I won't. But I feel like it because it's too much of a hassle to sell single semi-common ponies these days. (This is about seashell btw).

 :lol: How is THAT for unpopular.

Haha, same here. XD Especially baits, fakies, G2, G3 and G4 (and obviously G3.5, but I didn't think I needed to mention that, oh wait...). I am not a customizer, restorer or a collector of the generations mentioned above. Shipping abroad is crazy here, so it's not worth it to sell them either. They just take up a lot of space I cannot spare, so I really just want to throw them out. 

...But I can't. I already feel like a bad pony mother because I prefer ponies in good condition, so throwing them out would just make me feel worse. XD It'll probably happen though, one day...

Could alwaya give em to kids?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 26, 2018, 09:57:56 AM
A lot of charity shops etc here will collect unwanted stuff if you have enough of it.

Or I guess a note on a sale website for anyone local...or a daycare, or whatever....

Dunno. Not really ok with ponies being thrown away for a lot of reasons, some sentimental, but also environmental given that we're talking about plastic. Recycling them in some meaningful way is probably better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 26, 2018, 10:18:28 AM
A lot of charity shops etc here will collect unwanted stuff if you have enough of it.

Or I guess a note on a sale website for anyone local...or a daycare, or whatever....

Dunno. Not really ok with ponies being thrown away for a lot of reasons, some sentimental, but also environmental given that we're talking about plastic. Recycling them in some meaningful way is probably better.

Agreed. If a toy isn't broken beyond repair, and you cant get rid of it, consider rehoming it for free? Some little kid'll love it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: poniesthatsparkle on June 26, 2018, 08:59:37 PM
I like the roached manes of the G4 boys and Shining Armor's troll hair.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 27, 2018, 08:33:10 AM
White Tootsie is pretty, but I like green Tootsie better. White and blue is such a common color combo, green and blue less so.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 27, 2018, 08:40:36 AM
White Tootsie is pretty, but I like green Tootsie better. White and blue is such a common color combo, green and blue less so.

I actually agree. We had the green one here, so that's the one I think of as Tootsie. She can get worn and her colours dull but a good condition Tootsie is a really nice green and her hair is a lovely blue. She's very pretty really :)

I think the white/blue colour scheme in her case is kind of stark. It makes me think someone attacked her with tippex (or white out, or whatever other names it has).

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on June 29, 2018, 05:28:32 AM
People posting their thoughts on throwing ponies away made me nervous irl :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on June 29, 2018, 05:44:33 AM
People posting their thoughts on throwing ponies away made me nervous irl :lol:

I'm sorry about that.

I figured it was truly an unpopular opinion so it was a safe place to say my thoughts. Just trash in my trash can.

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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on June 29, 2018, 06:24:54 AM
It's also a safe place to voice my opinion on your opinion :P No harm done.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 29, 2018, 07:32:23 AM
People posting their thoughts on throwing ponies away made me nervous irl :lol:

I'm sorry about that.

I figured it was truly an unpopular opinion so it was a safe place to say my thoughts. Just trash in my trash can.

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(^ love this btw)

Well Bandit, when you see a bunch of pony collectors punching each other while digging through your trash, remember this moment. XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 29, 2018, 09:30:09 AM
People posting their thoughts on throwing ponies away made me nervous irl :lol:

I'm sorry about that.

I figured it was truly an unpopular opinion so it was a safe place to say my thoughts. Just trash in my trash can.

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(^ love this btw)

Well Bandit, when you see a bunch of pony collectors punching each other while digging through your trash, remember this moment. XD

Someone hire a minibus!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cloud Dreamer on June 30, 2018, 10:52:06 PM
I don't like the G1 Rainbow Ponies one bit. I only like Confetti and Nightlight (even though she isn't your run-of-the-mill rainbow pony). But I don't understand what the big deal is about them- in my opinion, they all look pretty much the same because of the hair. I always thought a cute line (and a much better idea than the original rainbow ponies) would be entirely one color ponies, such as a green pony with a darker green hair color, and so on. They could have little paint buckets of their color symbols! I have no idea what good names would be though.. "Green" sounds boring.

I also am not a fan of TAF ponies. I love the concept, but I just don't really like any of the TAF ponies that are made except for Pillow Talk. I also like Sand Digger, Wave Runner,  and Mainsail but they weren't really meant to have TAF as their main gimmick.

I really, really dislike G4 Rainbow Dash, G4 :muffin: Pony,  G3 Minty, and G4.5 Princess Skystar. I think Skystar and Minty are annoying, and Rainbow Dash & :muffin: Pony are SO overrated in my opinion. (I can't bring myself to hate any ponies.)

I as well dislike the Mimic pose. More poses I don't like are the Daffidazey pose, the Donkey pose, the Rainbow Dash pose, the Cinnamon Breeze pose,  and the Gingerbread pose.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on July 01, 2018, 03:48:49 PM
I don't like the G1 Rainbow Ponies one bit. I only like Confetti and Nightlight (even though she isn't your run-of-the-mill rainbow pony). But I don't understand what the big deal is about them- in my opinion, they all look pretty much the same because of the hair. I always thought a cute line (and a much better idea than the original rainbow ponies) would be entirely one color ponies, such as a green pony with a darker green hair color, and so on. They could have little paint buckets of their color symbols! I have no idea what good names would be though.. "Green" sounds boring.

I also am not a fan of TAF ponies. I love the concept, but I just don't really like any of the TAF ponies that are made except for Pillow Talk. I also like Sand Digger, Wave Runner,  and Mainsail but they weren't really meant to have TAF as their main gimmick.

I don't care for these sets either: The TAFs just don't appeal to me, except the Sunshine Ponies.

With the Rainbow Ponies, I only like a couple ponies from the second set (Starflower & Pinwheel). With the first set, the body colors are too light and dull for my liking. In the second set, the colors are vibrant but the overall looks don't appeal to me except for the two aforementioned unicorns.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 10, 2018, 07:46:07 AM
G3s have the best defined and horsiest faces of all gens.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: flutterscotch on July 10, 2018, 07:58:04 AM
Mimic is a touch overrated.

I'm not a huge fan of that pose, the head's too big or something, it could have been more elegant, and I wish it were. 
I'm not a huge fan of twinkle eyes.
I'm not a huge fan of ponies having symbols of creatures that I kind of feel would be on par with them in their universe.
I'm not a fan of the neon yellow/green/red combination as it was the color of a sweater I had in 1988.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 10, 2018, 08:03:04 AM
Mimic is a touch overrated.

I'm not a huge fan of that pose, the head's too big or something, it could have been more elegant, and I wish it were. 
I'm not a huge fan of twinkle eyes.
I'm not a huge fan of ponies having symbols of creatures that I kind of feel would be on par with them in their universe.
I'm not a fan of the neon yellow/green/red combination as it was the color of a sweater I had in 1988.

Lol. Okay, the sweater part cracked me up.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: flutterscotch on July 10, 2018, 11:13:36 AM
Lol. Okay, the sweater part cracked me up.

It was SUCH an ugly sweater, and it was a gift.  And it was a very very thoughtful gift at that but it doesn't change the fact that it was hideous and I felt obligated to wear it.

Similar to this, but Mimic-colored and black with some small scatterings of turquoise.

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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on July 10, 2018, 01:31:39 PM
I'm not a fan of the neon yellow/green/red combination as it was the color of a sweater I had in 1988.

:silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 12, 2018, 09:34:02 AM
All ponies are toys and really sturdy ones too. I think its weird that some people get upset/anxious etc. when they discover that a kid is playing with an older pony.

They are made to be played with by everyone from toddlers who will bang them on the ground, to older kids who will take them on adventures. They're made outta plastic, not porcelain people! Seriously!

Now if that kid was your kid/younger relative/friend of your kid's and were known to be really rough,  destructive and uncaring of both their own and other people's property, yeah I can understand telling them off or taking something away after multiple warnings.

But the point remains is that ponies are toys and there's no reason to become upset that they're fulfilling their purpose of making a little kid happy.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 12, 2018, 10:03:16 AM
Providing they're already out of package, I agree with you - except I guess there are some concerns these days as to whether the deteriorating plastic might cause kids harm. I don't know where I stand on that one. I think it's the decision of the parents really.

Re the Mimic thing - I guess for me the fact people feel the need to publically declare their like or dislike for her is a weird thing to me. You don't usually see lots of people taking a stand about whether they love or hate Posey xD, so having to pick a preference with Mimic adds to the concept that she is somehow 'special' - if that makes sense?

 I guess my unpopular opinion is that Mimic is just another pony to me. That's not a negative thing. I love her very much, but I don't see her as a status symbol, she's just one of a set of very pretty TE ponies, all of whom I like very much as well.

So to me singling Mimic out for this particular attention is often strange...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on July 12, 2018, 11:40:24 AM
As a kid (and still as an adult), I used to pick my favorites from a set and look for that particular one.  I couldn't afford or have them all so it was out of necessity really.   Because she was green, because of her symbol and because she had a pose my other ponies didn't, Mimic was my pick from the Twinkle Eyes.  I didn't get her.  Of course I moved on, but she still holds a special wish place for me. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 13, 2018, 10:08:35 AM
I don't do the character army thing. I mean to each their own, but to me personally, having more then one of the same character, means less space for anything else.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 14, 2018, 04:12:38 PM
As a kid (and still as an adult), I used to pick my favorites from a set and look for that particular one.  I couldn't afford or have them all so it was out of necessity really.   Because she was green, because of her symbol and because she had a pose my other ponies didn't, Mimic was my pick from the Twinkle Eyes.  I didn't get her.  Of course I moved on, but she still holds a special wish place for me. :)

I did this too. Usually influenced by something in the comic. And I was usually biased to unicorns or pegasus ponies...usually pegasus ponies but unicorns in the case of sets that had no pegasus/the pegasus wasn't sold in the UK (Blueberry Baskets, I'm looking at you -.-)

But I rarely ever found the ones I singled out. So I would just go and buy one from the same set or whatever was there. And then they often became favourites because I'd look out for them in the comics more.

I guess that's a weird way to collect. Pick a pony, buy second best, grow to love second best ;)

It also meant my carboot years in the 1990s were frequently filling the gaps in those childhood wishes (and realising those ponies WERE available in my area, I just never saw them -.-.)

Thanks to carbooting, I can have more than one from a set now. But as a kid, unless I had presents, it was usually one from a set and then move on. :) Mountain Boys and Party Ponies were exceptions, I had 3 of each as I loved the sets and at least 3 from those 6 were presents I think...certainly 2 MBs were, I wouldn''t have been able to buy three myself at age 5-6.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on July 16, 2018, 04:52:07 AM
It seems like every toy vaguely looking like a horse gets called a fakie
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 16, 2018, 06:50:52 AM
It seems like every toy vaguely looking like a horse gets called a fakie

Yeah that one's a bit of a head scratcher.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on July 16, 2018, 07:00:19 AM
mmhm, I agree that that can get a bit crazy sometimes. IMO if it doesn't have a symbol, and it's not obviously trying to follow on MLP's heels (i.e. no symbol but similar proportions/eyes/etc), it's not a fakie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 16, 2018, 01:29:39 PM
It seems like every toy vaguely looking like a horse gets called a fakie

Yeah that one's a bit of a head scratcher.

Leading on from this - and apologies in advance to anyone that this opinion may offend - I genuinely don't understand the craze for collecting fakies these days.

(Disclaimer - defining fakie for this post - a pony not belonging to another toy franchise and which was designed as part of a line to deliberately undercut MLP with a similar product at a cheaper price, with less quality. So including Lanard, Totsy, etc - not including Rainbow Brite's horse, Cabbage Patch ponies, etc)

Even as a kid I wasn't fooled by fakies. Nobody ever bought me one, so I guess they realised that. I have always left them behind at boot sales and in charity shops and if I get them in lots I donate them. I get increasingly frustrated at the huge quantity of fakies vs real ponies that show up at carboot sales and which get labelled as MLP. I genuinely can't understand spending money or space on them. Not even ones like Concerned Pony. I mean, she's funny, but I don't get the urge to own them.

And god, Rinse & Spit is the most horrible fakie in the existence of fakies.

I can't remember that people ever used to have this fakie interest, so I guess it's grown over time? I have noticed that the traditional destroy a fakie competition that was a staple of Ponycon for years in the past has somewhat dwindled, so I guess attention has shifted. Is it because MLP has got more expensive? Is it because fakies have got more interesting? Is it because we know more about them?

I don't really get it. I probably never will. To me a fakie is fakie. And I don't destroy them, because I don't vandalise things other people value - but I could never have them in my collection.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 16, 2018, 01:40:46 PM
Taffeta how could you? Don't you know that meat's meat and ponies gotta eat? That's why Princess RnS has those big ol' chompers. "Come closer my child," she says as she beckons gently. "Let me give you a little kiss."  :bolt::

:silly:


I've always liked cute fakies and at this point, they're far prettier then the hideous new moulds hasbroken has been putting out.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 16, 2018, 01:56:13 PM
Taffeta how could you? Don't you know that meat's meat and ponies gotta eat? That's why Princess RnS has those big ol' chompers. "Come closer my child," she says as she beckons gently. "Let me give you a little kiss."  :bolt::
For some reason I'm suddenly reminded of the Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty.
Maybe she exists to keep the unecessary population of scantily dressed and unrealistically proportioned fashion dolls to a workable minimum. "Here's another batch of balding barbies, Chompie. Take it away."

...Anyhow.
I can understand what you say about the newer G4 moulds. I know the old ones were repetitive but I was ok with that because I liked them. I hate the newer moulds. I wouldn't say that they're worse than fakies, but I'm not totally convinced that they're better. Aside a couple of examples (Soarin', Spitfire)...not sold on them at all :( (And still wish Spitfire had been in the older mould).

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 16, 2018, 02:01:39 PM
 :lol:

Well considering there has been a steadyish surge of g3 style fakies. I'd say so.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 16, 2018, 04:24:31 PM
I like collecting fakies because of the huge amount of variety there is in their appearances, so many companies have tried their hand at making their own "MLPs" and it's really interesting to see all the different ways they try to do that. And some I just genuinely love, such as Lanards, I think they're really cute and Lanard seems to put a lot more effort into their fakies compared to most of the other companies, even though their tails are still rooted.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 16, 2018, 04:27:49 PM
Rooted tails are a horror of fakieness that literally make me shudder.

...Ok, melodrama, but I'm actually not kidding. Some things just make me shudder to look at for no reason. Some weird aspect of hypersensitivity, but the rooted tails really make me wince.

Maybe that's a big reason why I don't like fakies. I also don't like SA ponies either. (Hey, I guess that's another unpopular opinion?) NOw we know there was a licence, they're clearly authentic, but the rooted tail is just unforgivable to me in any circumstances.

Though I do love that people call it shower-butt.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 16, 2018, 04:30:39 PM
At least shower butt fakies are an easy fix, but maaan does it annoy me. One stroke of the brush and half the tail was gone! Ooh!  :mad:

If I can correct it with a pack of zipties which cost less then a buck, fakie makers can go back to proper tails.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on July 17, 2018, 10:35:21 AM
I've never gone out of my way for fakies (though I collected cute pastel horses from quarter machines at Toys R Us as a kid) but once I found a fakie that looked so much like a G3, I couldn't resist. It was almost like opening a G3 toy as a kid again. But in general I agree. There are very few fakies I would buy/keep.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 20, 2018, 09:08:16 AM
I like certain ponies, such as Steamer, Glow and Player with white hair more.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on July 20, 2018, 09:32:50 AM
I like certain ponies, such as Steamer, Glow and Player with white hair more.
Totally agree with Glow! She feels so much more mystical that way.
I think Up Up and Away would be neat with green and yellow hair instead of just pink.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 20, 2018, 09:44:02 AM
I like certain ponies, such as Steamer, Glow and Player with white hair more.
Totally agree with Glow! She feels so much more mystical that way.
I think Up Up and Away would be neat with green and yellow hair instead of just pink.

She so would!

Post Merge: July 20, 2018, 05:40:04 PM

I don't see Thistle Whistle as related to Wind Whistler in spirit or in body. She has bolder colors. Not to mention a vocal quirk that puts me more in mind of Baby Quackers.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on July 25, 2018, 05:44:17 PM
I thought newborn cuties was ok for what it was a web series made to sell toys what did people expect for a free series by a major company
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 02, 2018, 07:48:34 AM
I don't like Tara Strong's voice and find it annoying. She only has 2 voice modes. Sickeningly cutesy bimbo and annoyed bimbo with a cold.

She doesn't make me wanna jam something pointy in my ears like Bobcat Goldthwaite and whoever voices Spongebob does, but she does annoy the crap outta me all the same with her voice. Change it up!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Dreamer on August 07, 2018, 03:08:33 AM
I don't like Tara Strong's voice and find it annoying. She only has 2 voice modes. Sickeningly cutesy bimbo and annoyed bimbo with a cold.

She doesn't make me wanna jam something pointy in my ears like Bobcat Goldthwaite and whoever voices Spongebob does, but she does annoy the crap outta me all the same with her voice. Change it up!

I partially agree, I don't know why people are all over her. Maybe it's because I dislike chipmunk voices in general  :P Did you know that mothers speak to their children with a higher pitch to make themselves clearer? Maybe that's why I hate chipmunk voices so much: it feels as if they were baby-talking to me!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 07, 2018, 08:05:44 AM
I had no idea who she was. Had to google her. I guessed she was in FIM but apparently also anime dubs. Yuk.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on August 07, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
I made my Munchy jokes in the past but I think it's silly now even when other people make them.

Horses do eat meat in the wild. They are especially known for plundering birds nests and eating not only the eggs but the chicks as well for extra protein.
So in a way the Munchy pony is a bit of horse trivia if you want to pretend the hot dogs aren't soy :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on August 07, 2018, 09:50:31 AM
I don't like Tara Strong's voice and find it annoying. She only has 2 voice modes. Sickeningly cutesy bimbo and annoyed bimbo with a cold.

She doesn't make me wanna jam something pointy in my ears like Bobcat Goldthwaite and whoever voices Spongebob does, but she does annoy the crap outta me all the same with her voice. Change it up!


The first time I heard Tara Strong as voice a character was Melody, Ariel's daughter. I think it was one of her earlier voice roles and I really didn't reconigne her voice as Twilight Sparkle at all. I don't mind Twilght Sparkle's voice but Unikitty's voice is annoying to me.


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on August 07, 2018, 11:21:28 AM
I don't like Tara Strong's voice and find it annoying. She only has 2 voice modes. Sickeningly cutesy bimbo and annoyed bimbo with a cold.

She doesn't make me wanna jam something pointy in my ears like Bobcat Goldthwaite and whoever voices Spongebob does, but she does annoy the crap outta me all the same with her voice. Change it up!

I partially agree, I don't know why people are all over her.

Because she is super active on Twitter and interacts a lot with fans, does cosplay and posts pictures of herself in low cut shirts :lol:

But I'm over her as well. Good for her for getting all these voice roles but I watched a show where she voiced literally every female character that appeared and it was really annoying.
We had two voice actresses for Twilight and I like both better than Tara, which is like... blasphemous to say here in Germany, haha!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 07, 2018, 03:13:55 PM
When a new cartoon comes out that has SOMETHING to do with Canada, it's fun to play "spot Tara".  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 08, 2018, 10:10:20 AM
I made my Munchy jokes in the past but I think it's silly now even when other people make them.

Horses do eat meat in the wild. They are especially known for plundering birds nests and eating not only the eggs but the chicks as well for extra protein.
So in a way the Munchy pony is a bit of horse trivia if you want to pretend the hot dogs aren't soy :lol:

Really? I've heard of deers doing that but not horses. Interesting.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 08, 2018, 10:19:22 AM
I made my Munchy jokes in the past but I think it's silly now even when other people make them.

Horses do eat meat in the wild. They are especially known for plundering birds nests and eating not only the eggs but the chicks as well for extra protein.
So in a way the Munchy pony is a bit of horse trivia if you want to pretend the hot dogs aren't soy :lol:

Really? I've heard of deers doing that but not horses. Interesting.

My experience with deer (in Nara) was that they would eat human visitors if they thought they could get the fingers.
But I haven't heard that about horses either. Learn something new...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: flutterscotch on August 08, 2018, 10:25:35 AM
I don't like Tara Strong's voice and find it annoying. She only has 2 voice modes. Sickeningly cutesy bimbo and annoyed bimbo with a cold.

She doesn't make me wanna jam something pointy in my ears like Bobcat Goldthwaite and whoever voices Spongebob does, but she does annoy the crap outta me all the same with her voice. Change it up!

I partially agree, I don't know why people are all over her.

Because she is super active on Twitter and interacts a lot with fans, does cosplay and posts pictures of herself in low cut shirts :lol:

But I'm over her as well. Good for her for getting all these voice roles but I watched a show where she voiced literally every female character that appeared and it was really annoying.
We had two voice actresses for Twilight and I like both better than Tara, which is like... blasphemous to say here in Germany, haha!


Now imagine being really into Hello Kitty's Furry Tale Theater when you were a kid and imagine how weird it is for both Tara Stong and Cree Summer to pop back up together over and over and over and over again while finding them kinda annoying.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 08, 2018, 10:27:12 AM
Sunlight doesn't remind me of a bright sunny day. More like a spring time gray day when the sun starts to pop up after a good rainstorm.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ribbs on August 11, 2018, 06:53:31 AM
My unpopular opinion: I think So Soft ponies look moldy... I hate that the flocking obscures their symbols, and they look even worse with bald spots. I had a Fifi with rubbed off spots above her eyes and mouth... Poor think looked like she had a bad makeover or a little too much fun at last night's party. The flocking is such a pain to remove too! I know most people love the So Softs since most of them were in the original cartoon, but I think I'll pass... De-flocked or a fur-less variant, please. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on August 12, 2018, 06:00:17 AM
Sunlight doesn't remind me of a bright sunny day. More like a spring time gray day when the sun starts to pop up after a good rainstorm.

Agreed. I always thought that Sunlight and Skydancer should swith colours.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on August 12, 2018, 11:18:45 AM
Sunbeam has never been a favorite pony of mine.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 12, 2018, 12:45:25 PM
Sunbeam has never been a favorite pony of mine.


Ponyfan

Totally with you! I wouldn't say 'hated' her as a kid but saw her as 'meh' the moment she was introduced to the comic/stories as Majesty's party planner. What a waste.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on August 12, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Sunbeam has never been a favorite pony of mine.


Ponyfan

Totally with you! I wouldn't say 'hated' her as a kid but saw her as 'meh' the moment she was introduced to the comic/stories as Majesty's party planner. What a waste.
It seems people forget about her quite often. I guess she isn't that memorable.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on August 12, 2018, 03:46:20 PM
I never see Sunbeam listed as a favorite pony much. She is featured in the Dream Castle commercial with the other 1st set of unicorns.  I wonder if she wasn't a popular choice back when she was available in stores?  I didn't know she was Majesty's party planner in the comics.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on August 12, 2018, 06:05:39 PM
I only have Sunbeam cuz I didn't want my sister to sell her childhood G1s to a stranger.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TickleMePink on August 13, 2018, 01:34:14 AM
I´m not so fond of the more brightly coloured ponies, and tend to like the one´s with muted colors best (with the exception of maybe nss Twist, but her purple is also kind of muted come to think of it).
I don´t find Peachy boring at all, she´s like the prototype of all ponies for me. Soft colours and an overall kind look to her.

The Rockin´Beats ponies aren´t my cup of tea, nor are the Tropical ponies.

And I don´t care at all for having the right accessories, and having a trillion combs laying around. My memory is bad enough as it is, I can´t imagine having to keep track of all those little gadgets.  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leikin on August 14, 2018, 03:33:36 AM
Sunbeam has never been a favorite pony of mine.

Ponyfan

I Love Sunbeam!  :D  I wish they had made a baby of her as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 14, 2018, 07:12:13 AM
If Sunbeam were on a different pose. I'd love her!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on August 14, 2018, 08:11:08 AM
I’ve always wondered how Hasbro decided who got babies and who didn’t. Moondancer and Glory got babies but Sunbeam and Twilight the unicorn didn’t have official Hasbro babies.


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on August 14, 2018, 08:45:18 AM
I feel like it's become 'trendy' to hate on G4, and to be honest it reminds me of the bronies' unreasoning hatred of G3.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 14, 2018, 09:20:06 AM
I feel like it's become 'trendy' to hate on G4, and to be honest it reminds me of the bronies' unreasoning hatred of G3.

I am actually more worried about the opposite - that we're getting into territory where expressing an opinion is being interpreted as hating on something :/

@Ponyfan, I think that one can be explained by a mundane reason. Glory and Moondancer were rereleased in the year the babies came out, so was Firefly...makes business sense to release them all together. Of course, why those ponies were chosen to be rereleased is maybe the real question...?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 14, 2018, 09:41:31 AM
I’ve always wondered how Hasbro decided who got babies and who didn’t. Moondancer and Glory got babies but Sunbeam and Twilight the unicorn didn’t have official Hasbro babies.


Ponyfan

Me too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leikin on August 15, 2018, 04:34:34 AM

Post Merge: August 15, 2018, 04:35:58 AM

I’ve always wondered how Hasbro decided who got babies and who didn’t. Moondancer and Glory got babies but Sunbeam and Twilight the unicorn didn’t have official Hasbro babies.

@Ponyfan, I think that one can be explained by a mundane reason. Glory and Moondancer were rereleased in the year the babies came out, so was Firefly...makes business sense to release them all together. Of course, why those ponies were chosen to be rereleased is maybe the real question...?

I actually never thought of that, but it makes sense. But was Blossom and Cotton Candy released again that year? they could have changed tha earth babies to any of the other coming out that year. Baby Posey and baby Toosie maybe :P  But they seem to have had a soft spot for white or very pale babies that year. I mean, suprise, Glory and Moondancer are all white, Cotton Candy is fairly pale in her colours, and Blossom is pale purple and Blossom, Glory and Moondancer all received much lighter hair then their mommies. Following that trend we shoul have had a baby Gusty with light green hair and a pink stripe :P:

And yeah, I think its a little boring they choose the two ponies most alike, to rerelease, They could have switched one of them out for Sunbeam or Twillight.
And for the babies, they could hace choosen any of the new unicorns from that year as they did with Surprise. (guess Medley was to dark for that baby set, so they chose another white baby instead :P: )
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 15, 2018, 10:04:59 AM
Perhaps not in the US. They were in the UK, not that that means anything in terms of Hasbro Inc's overall decisions. But given that they'd been the two characters rereleased in y2 and the ongoing MO status of the Collector Pony sets maybe that's why?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on August 16, 2018, 05:48:42 PM
That makes sense. :) I never thought about the moms and matching babies being sold around the same time but having both available at the same time probably meant more sales to get the moms and matching babies


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: flutterscotch on August 16, 2018, 06:29:37 PM
I really dislike the proportions and colors of the Dolly Mix figures.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on August 16, 2018, 06:54:40 PM
I really dislike the proportions and colors of the Dolly Mix figures.
I dislike them because of their style.. The faces seem off to me :shrug:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponycake on August 16, 2018, 09:38:27 PM
I wonder if anyone has said this before. It bothers me how many 80s ponies I see signed by Bonnie Zacherle/others every year. I just don't like ittttt I could only let them sign a poster.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on August 17, 2018, 10:06:16 AM
I wonder if anyone has said this before. It bothers me how many 80s ponies I see signed by Bonnie Zacherle/others every year. I just don't like ittttt I could only let them sign a poster.

I get you. But on the other hand... better signed by Bonnie than signed by a kid or forever ruined by a custom artist who wouldn't use a fakie to practice on first.
I even regret signing my childhood JP dinosaurs with sharpie because even after I scrubbed it all off it really lowered their worth to collectors.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 17, 2018, 10:23:06 AM
I wonder if anyone has said this before. It bothers me how many 80s ponies I see signed by Bonnie Zacherle/others every year. I just don't like ittttt I could only let them sign a poster.

Yeah. I couldn't let a figure be signed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TickleMePink on August 17, 2018, 10:26:50 AM
I wonder if anyone has said this before. It bothers me how many 80s ponies I see signed by Bonnie Zacherle/others every year. I just don't like ittttt I could only let them sign a poster.

This!
I mean if you care enough about ponies to know who she is, then why would you do that? It really makes no sense whatsoever  :shocked:

Post Merge: August 17, 2018, 10:33:54 AM

Another unpopular opinion: I don´t particularly care for baby ponies. I seem to care the most for the ones with an adult equivalent, the other ones I can take or leave.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tulagirl on August 17, 2018, 10:43:35 AM
I feel like it's become 'trendy' to hate on G4, and to be honest it reminds me of the bronies' unreasoning hatred of G3.

I am actually more worried about the opposite - that we're getting into territory where expressing an opinion is being interpreted as hating on something :/

I agree with this 100%.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 17, 2018, 10:51:45 AM
I wonder if anyone has said this before. It bothers me how many 80s ponies I see signed by Bonnie Zacherle/others every year. I just don't like ittttt I could only let them sign a poster.

Yeah. I couldn't let a figure be signed.

I have to admit this makes me cringe as well. My rule for all ponies - is "do no harm". I understand wanting autographs, but ink on ponies is just...not...great.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on August 17, 2018, 11:18:05 AM
Add me to the list that doesn’t like seeing large signatures scribbled on ponies.  I heard that Sharpie (magic marker) ink detoriates quickly on pony plastic anyway and those fancy signatures become smudged before long. I just can’t see why someone would want a signature on an actual pony.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on August 17, 2018, 12:27:05 PM
I don't understand autographed ponies, either. I mean.. I guess I get the sentiment behind it, but won't it fade/run eventually *anyway*? Signing a figure like that just feels weird to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on August 17, 2018, 12:50:55 PM
I feel like it's become 'trendy' to hate on G4, and to be honest it reminds me of the bronies' unreasoning hatred of G3.

I am actually more worried about the opposite - that we're getting into territory where expressing an opinion is being interpreted as hating on something :/

I agree with this 100%.

I love getting compared to people who do actual online harassing campaigns just because I'm fed up with G4. And I actually love the new Cutie Mark Crew and still watch the show :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 17, 2018, 01:29:16 PM
This is a bit off topic, but I guess I just don't get autographs at all. Its some famous person's signature on a piece of paper.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on August 17, 2018, 11:34:25 PM
I wonder if anyone has said this before. It bothers me how many 80s ponies I see signed by Bonnie Zacherle/others every year. I just don't like ittttt I could only let them sign a poster.

Yeah. I couldn't let a figure be signed.

I was at a con where G1 Melody's VA was (as well as G3 Cotton Candy and someone in G4) and I thought about how cool it would be to have my Melody signed.... if it wouldn't bother me to have ink in her. Meanwhile, I was kickin myself for not bringing my 1990s Star Trek Q figure to be signed by De Lancie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nienna on August 26, 2018, 05:55:15 AM
I've enjoyed reading this thread so much I have to add something!

Welllll, I don't like boy ponies. Big Brothers, Mountain Boys, they do nothing for me. Just have no interest at all in collecting them- I've had some over the years and always sold them in the end. I only have the family daddies at the moment (they were childhood ponies) but that's it, I don't need to have them.

Which I guess is odd but good news for the rest of you who love them ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 26, 2018, 06:26:59 AM
I've enjoyed reading this thread so much I have to add something!

Welllll, I don't like boy ponies. Big Brothers, Mountain Boys, they do nothing for me. Just have no interest at all in collecting them- I've had some over the years and always sold them in the end. I only have the family daddies at the moment (they were childhood ponies) but that's it, I don't need to have them.

Which I guess is odd but good news for the rest of you who love them ;)
Same! I think the pose is cute, but I just can't get into the actual sets. Probably because I HC some of them as boys anyway.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on August 26, 2018, 06:44:40 AM
I'm also not a big fan of boy ponies. I had Quarterback in my childhood ponies and don't remember playing with him as much as my other ponies. Although I do think that if the US had Mountain Boys that my opinion might change. :) I like the Mountain Boys designs better than the Big Brothers but I don't actively seek them out. I have only 3 boy ponies, my childhood Quarterback, Ice Crystal and a custom boy of my ponysona Marius. :)


Here's another unpopular opinion. FIM has always been hit or miss for me so instead of buying the Season sets on DVD I usually buy the DVDs that only have a few episodes on them. I'd rather have a few episodes that I know I like and am more likely to rewatch than buy DVD sets that I watch most of the episodes anyway.


Ponyfan 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nienna on August 26, 2018, 07:37:18 AM
Same! I think the pose is cute, but I just can't get into the actual sets. Probably because I HC some of them as boys anyway.

Me too, I didn't need boys because the girls coped perfectly on their own ;) and some of them I regarded as boys (c'mon, AppleJACK).

I did (and do) love the comics so from that perspective I like the Mountain Boys a lot better than the Big Brothers because they were often in those stories and I enjoyed some of their personalities.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Foxbite on August 26, 2018, 08:06:55 AM
The original unicorns looked like bee sting victims with their hunchbacks and bulgy arses.

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Oooh and I'm always minorly squicked out by eBay sellers who oil their ponies' bodies and hair up all shiny. Why is that a thing? Lube job pony just is not attractive.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on August 26, 2018, 08:20:27 AM
The original unicorns looked like bee sting victims with their hunchbacks and bulgy arses.

Post Merge: August 26, 2018, 08:11:26 AM

Oooh and I'm always minorly squicked out by eBay sellers who oil their ponies' bodies and hair up all shiny. Why is that a thing? Lube job pony just is not attractive.
I saw a listing for a shiny pony who's body had been conditioned with vinyl conditioner. (they said the shine would go away..?) Idk. Sometimes plasticizer leakage can make a pony shiny too.

I do like shiny, silky hair though :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 26, 2018, 08:46:27 AM
The original unicorns looked like bee sting victims with their hunchbacks and bulgy arses.

Post Merge: August 26, 2018, 08:11:26 AM

Oooh and I'm always minorly squicked out by eBay sellers who oil their ponies' bodies and hair up all shiny. Why is that a thing? Lube job pony just is not attractive.

Eww who does that? Makes me wonder if they're trying to get rid of leaking ponies?

I love Brazil Bowtie more then Ladybird.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 26, 2018, 08:48:33 AM
The original unicorns looked like bee sting victims with their hunchbacks and bulgy arses.

Post Merge: August 26, 2018, 08:11:26 AM

Oooh and I'm always minorly squicked out by eBay sellers who oil their ponies' bodies and hair up all shiny. Why is that a thing? Lube job pony just is not attractive.

Eww who does that? Makes me wonder if they're trying to get rid of leaking ponies?

I love Brazil Bowtie more then Ladybird.

I don't like Ladybird. Which is superbly ironic since it's my fault she got originally nicknamed Ladybird ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 26, 2018, 08:55:45 AM
I like Ladybird, just not quite as much as Seashell, Brazil Bowtie and Bubbles. One of these days I would like to see Hasbro make a ladybug pony in red and black. I have no idea why they shy away from those 2 colors.

What's her name in Greek? Is it just the Greek word for ladybug?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 26, 2018, 09:02:33 AM
I like Ladybird, just not quite as much as Seashell, Brazil Bowtie and Bubbles. One of these days I would like to see Hasbro make a ladybug pony in red and black. I have no idea why they shy away from those 2 colors.

What's her name in Greek? Is it just the Greek word for ladybug?

Erm. Something beginning with a P. It isn't Ladybird or anything like that, I think it just means Easter Pony or something...it's some kind of play on words with the Greek word for Easter and for Ladybird...I think.

But we didn't know any of this when greek ponies first started showing up, and I nicknamed her Ladybird, because I have no imagination, and it stuck, because apparently nor did anyone else xD.

http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Ladybird

Wiki has bravely attempted to spell it ;)

To stay on the thread topic - I like Brazilian ponies more than Greek ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Foxbite on August 26, 2018, 09:05:55 AM
Eww who does that? Makes me wonder if they're trying to get rid of leaking ponies?

Forgive my ignorance, but what is a leaking pony? Are ponies melting now? I know they used to get brown cancer spots...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 26, 2018, 09:06:08 AM
Ahh. Thank you Taf. :)

Post Merge: August 26, 2018, 09:08:16 AM

Eww who does that? Makes me wonder if they're trying to get rid of leaking ponies?

Forgive my ignorance, but what is a leaking pony? Are ponies melting now? I know they used to get brown cancer spots...

Plasticizer leakage. Its where the plasticizer leaks out and makes the pony all sticky until its done and the plastic becomes hard. I have no idea if it can happen to any plastic product, or if its only certain types?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on August 26, 2018, 09:14:53 AM
Well, Hasbro used plasticizer to make the vinyl soft, so I don't now about hard plastics. It is contagious too, the fumes can get others leaking.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 26, 2018, 09:39:46 AM
I think I recall it happening to Breyers. Someone said it shrunk their horses a little and they got sticky.

Post Merge: August 26, 2018, 09:40:06 AM

Well, Hasbro used plasticizer to make the vinyl soft, so I don't now about hard plastics. It is contagious too, the fumes can get others leaking.

Contagious?!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on August 26, 2018, 10:13:22 AM
I think I recall it happening to Breyers. Someone said it shrunk their horses a little and they got sticky.

Post Merge: August 26, 2018, 09:40:06 AM

Well, Hasbro used plasticizer to make the vinyl soft, so I don't now about hard plastics. It is contagious too, the fumes can get others leaking.

Contagious?!
Yeah, the gases can affect other ponies. I think ponies who are already down the cycle are more prone, but it can get the process started for others :( It's best to quarantine the leaking ones until they are completely done.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 26, 2018, 10:17:52 AM
I think I recall it happening to Breyers. Someone said it shrunk their horses a little and they got sticky.

Post Merge: August 26, 2018, 09:40:06 AM

Well, Hasbro used plasticizer to make the vinyl soft, so I don't now about hard plastics. It is contagious too, the fumes can get others leaking.

Contagious?!
Yeah, the gases can affect other ponies. I think ponies who are already down the cycle are more prone, but it can get the process started for others :( It's best to quarantine the leaking ones until they are completely done.

Ohh man!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on August 27, 2018, 02:16:25 AM
I like Ladybird, just not quite as much as Seashell, Brazil Bowtie and Bubbles. One of these days I would like to see Hasbro make a ladybug pony in red and black. I have no idea why they shy away from those 2 colors.

What's her name in Greek? Is it just the Greek word for ladybug?

Erm. Something beginning with a P. It isn't Ladybird or anything like that, I think it just means Easter Pony or something...it's some kind of play on words with the Greek word for Easter and for Ladybird...I think.

But we didn't know any of this when greek ponies first started showing up, and I nicknamed her Ladybird, because I have no imagination, and it stuck, because apparently nor did anyone else xD.

http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Ladybird

Wiki has bravely attempted to spell it ;)

To stay on the thread topic - I like Brazilian ponies more than Greek ponies.

Late to the party, but it looks as if the pony's name is meant to be Πασχαλιτσα (Paschalitsa), which is indeed Greek for 'ladybird'. But Πάσχα (Pascha) is Easter, so, since the pony was sold in an Easter egg and has ladybirds on her, then yes, it's a play on words. Possibly ladybirds are especially associated with spring/Eastertide in Greece?

On a related note, my unpopular/just really random opinion is that there should be much, much more focus on rambling on about the names given to ponies in foreign languages :) But probably most people aren't as obsessed with foreign languages as me!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 27, 2018, 04:02:43 AM
I utterly agree with Shaz! Languages are awesome and so are names. And thank you for clearing up the Greek pony! I knew it was something like that. The irony being that I guess the people naming her also were a little lacking in imagination!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PoserBeachball on August 27, 2018, 05:30:39 AM
On a related note, my unpopular/just really random opinion is that there should be much, much more focus on rambling on about the names given to ponies in foreign languages :) But probably most people aren't as obsessed with foreign languages as me!

I agree as well, I'd like to call my ponies their names in their native tongue, I'm not that gifted in languages ( only UK English and a bit of French)

A new thread is needed here :) anyone know Italian names to start with..........:)

Hey Shaz, maybe your unpopular opinion isn't as unpopular as all that :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on August 27, 2018, 06:48:45 AM
Late to the party, but it looks as if the pony's name is meant to be Πασχαλιτσα (Paschalitsa), which is indeed Greek for 'ladybird'. But Πάσχα (Pascha) is Easter, so, since the pony was sold in an Easter egg and has ladybirds on her, then yes, it's a play on words. Possibly ladybirds are especially associated with spring/Eastertide in Greece?

This is fascinating, thanks for sharing! I was curious about her name. It's not just you, I think foreign pony names are very interesting :) I like the idea of making a thread about them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 27, 2018, 06:54:36 AM
That'd be a good thread to have. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 27, 2018, 08:47:01 AM
We should we should :D

I try to use the right names if it's a pony not sold in an English speaking place. My spreadsheet has the handful of Nirvana ponies I own listed where possible under their proper release names in that country, rather than the translation. I also try and use the German names for Nachtlicht etc, and the Dutch names for the 1995 release ponies if I can. There's one I can't spell right >.> but the others I can :)

I think it helps underscore the multinational hoofprint of MLP to do that.

I even went and looked up the Danish name for the February alt birthflower pony, because she came to me from Denmark. So she's now officially Stedmoder in my files :)

Also there's few more annoying translated names than 'Sing-a-long' pony. That one really irks me. xD.

Unpopular opinion - people shouldn't use translated names when the translation sounds stupid. I am sure Meezing doesn't literally mean 'sing a long'.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlushingBlue on August 27, 2018, 10:09:42 AM
Unpopular opinion - people shouldn't use translated names when the translation sounds stupid. I am sure Meezing doesn't literally mean 'sing a long'.

If there's a different English translation of Meezing/Mitsing other than "sing along" I don't know what it would be. I'm sure you don't want her to be called "Carpool Karaoke" XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cheyennethepony on August 27, 2018, 10:34:53 AM
I don't like Pinkie Pie from G4.
I used to but recently she's become... honestly... a psycho. She is insane. I don't really like Rarity personality-wise either but I usually enjoy episodes that are about her because they seem better written? IDK.

Post Merge: August 27, 2018, 10:46:25 AM

Rainbow_Quartz thanks for feeding my illusion that your opinion as to G4 is "unpopular".

I feel like it is (among pony fans I know personally anyway.)

i think its because this whole "brony" subculture literally came from g4 so like, theres a higher percentage of people who are actively into it who would probably try to fight you on the internet if you said you didnt like it. i personally love all gens~ ponies are ponies. theres no reason to hate g4 just cause its new. a lot of bronies hate g1-3 because they love g4, but a lot of people who love g1-3 and hate g4 are real "first generationers" to use pokemon terms. people who think it just can't get any better than gen 1, but in reality, the newer gens are just as good or lacking in creativity as their predecessors.
i don't care for g4 toys. i wish the quality was better, its like all the good toys were made in the 1980s, and now everything is about as producing as much as possible for as little as possible.

well said
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on August 27, 2018, 10:52:18 AM
I don't like the name Coco Berry.  Not sure if this is an unpopular opinion or not.

Other names I don't like:

Crunch Berry
Sorbet Surprise
Sherbet
Cherry Berry

Chocolate Chip would be an okay name except Chocolate Chip / Coco Berry very clearly has SPRINKLES on her ice cream cone, not chocolate chips!  She also doesn't have any suggestion of chocolate / cocoa??  Where is this cocoa / chocolate theme coming from?

In conclusion, not my favorite pony set.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 27, 2018, 11:03:18 AM
Hasbro had issues with pretty much every aspect of that set...

Chocolate Chip's perfume is also one of the most terrifying miasmas known to mankind.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on August 27, 2018, 11:06:02 AM
I don't like the name Crunch Berry either. It just sounds weird.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on August 27, 2018, 11:29:28 AM
Crunch Berry reminds me of cereal specifically Cap’n Crunch  :lol:  I’m not sure why Hasbro decided Coco Berry/ Chocolate Chip should have a pink ice cream instead of something that related to chocolate in some way.

I’ve always found it funny that th commercial for the Sundae Best ponies states “ponies smell like ice cream” Coco Berry/Chocolate Chip never smelled like ice cream to me.


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on August 27, 2018, 11:51:50 AM
I have no issues with leaving a G1 pony behind at a flea market... in fact, I leave most of them. I leave all other gens...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on August 27, 2018, 12:46:00 PM
While we're talking about names, have I said that I like the name Pillow Talk, yet?  I just find it cute.

Weirdly, part of the reason I like it is because back in 2013 (one of the years when I started checking out the pre-G4 stuff), I was training to work at a radio station, which had a segment that played romantic songs, which was called "Pillow Talk" and they played a song of the same name as it's jingle, and I couldn't help but think of the pony, so due to nostalgic attachments to both the radio station, and My Little Pony, I ended up really loving the name, not caring about the other meaning of the term (ironically, the song was about the other meaning, but it still didn't matter to me.)

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nienna on August 27, 2018, 12:56:32 PM
I have no issues with leaving a G1 pony behind at a flea market... in fact, I leave most of them. I leave all other gens...

I find that hard! If they are very baity and expensive I'm like, eh, I can deal with it, but otherwise I feel kind of compelled to bring them. All other gens, not bothered if I leave them.

I actually wish it was easier for me to leave them, so I kind of admire you!

On the topic of foreign names- I really really dislike the Dutch names. Not for the 1995 so much, but the translated names... they SUCK. The Dutch comics switched halfway through their run from having the English to the Dutch names and it was so hard for me to get used to it.
Basically, Dutch has a suffix that means "little, small" (-je) and they just put that after a noun to make pony names. Lemon Drop is "little lemon", Peachy is "little peach", Bow Tie is "little bow" Applejack is "little apple" and I could go on and on. It's so uncreative and stupid, and doesnt sound cute at all. In German 'Zitronchen' is pretty much the same I suppose but it sounds cuter.

Such a petpeeve for me!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cheyennethepony on August 27, 2018, 01:58:46 PM
Here's one:

I don't want a full collection of every G1 in existence. Instead, my goal has always been a relatively small herd comprised only of ponies from select sets. There are a lot more ponies I'd pass on than ones I actually want.

Yes! Agreed! I only want the ponies that I like. I don't care about rare ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sky_Rocket_Sammie on August 27, 2018, 06:07:55 PM
Having bought Coco Berry when the line was brand new, I can attest to the stank. For me, I had to leave her outside on the patio for a few days to air out. It irked me that an ice cream pony which had an ice cream cone didn't smell like it. At least the line could have smelled like various scratch n sniff stickers. Remember those? Such nostalgia when getting papers back in school.

In conclusion, not a fan of that particular name.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on August 27, 2018, 06:59:05 PM
Since we're talking about the Sundae Best ponies scents., I have to mention the US commercial for them. It repeatedly shows a little girl smelling the pony

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and then smelling ice cream and nodding supposedly conforming that they do smell like ice cream. :lol:


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on August 28, 2018, 06:46:07 AM
That commercial . . . amazing . . . :P

OMG, I'm sorry she smelled so bad you had to air her out!  I've never had one of the Sundae Best ponies who was still scented, the smell had worn off by the time I got my hands on them.

Does ice cream actually have a smell?  I don't think I've ever had chocolate ice cream that smelled chocolatey.  Freshly made waffle cones have a smell, but does ice cream?  *goes to open fridge and sniff ice cream, like the girl in the commercial*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Water Lily on August 28, 2018, 11:30:39 AM
I don't like the (non movie) firefly pose ponies
I don't like g 3.5
I don't like perfume puff ponies
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 29, 2018, 12:26:37 AM
I pity anyone who had a Sundae Best from new. I am traumatised by the ones I have that still smell...the only one I can bear is Sherbet/Sorbet Surprise.

In the UK Hasbro had a giant mess up with the names and there's all kind of weird going on with the US names as well because Cherry Berry was originally a US pony name and then got axed and everyone got shunted around and yeah. If you look at the US cards, some of them have names in block capitals and some don't. And the ones that do are  the ones that have different UK names. Weird stuff.

In any case, the comic first introduced the unicorn as Sorbet Surprise/Sherbet, although this was later corrected to her being Chocolate Chip. The comic Sorbet Surprise was known for grape sorbet and a whispering grape vine, so utterly un-chocolatey. I am not sure any of them really fit their names, though. I mean, Banana Surprise may have a banana split on her butt...not sure about that. But she's pink and aqua.

I really am not a fan of this set at all, mostly because the moulds look deformed as far as I am concerned. I love Butter Kiss/Swirly Whirly's colour scheme, but her smell is almost as bad as Chocolate Chip and her pose is just...wrong on all levels :(
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on August 29, 2018, 05:44:25 AM
I found this catalog page on the Wiki. I'm not sure if it's a typo or not but


http://mylittlewiki.org/w/images/9/9d/213.jpg


It calls both the unicorn and the yellow Earth pony Coco Berry and Crunch Berry/Cherry Berry as Swirly Whirly/Butter Kiss


I’m not sure how popular this opinion is but I love the Dancing Butterflies pose. :lovey:

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 30, 2018, 12:31:09 AM
I found this catalog page on the Wiki. I'm not sure if it's a typo or not but


http://mylittlewiki.org/w/images/9/9d/213.jpg


It calls both the unicorn and the yellow Earth pony Coco Berry and Crunch Berry/Cherry Berry as Swirly Whirly/Butter Kiss


I’m not sure how popular this opinion is but I love the Dancing Butterflies pose. :lovey:

Ponyfan

And if you squint you can see that the MOC Sherbet/Sorbet Surprise is labelled CHERRY Berry, which is the UK name for Crunch Berry. BUT I have a UK insert from 1988ish that lists that same pony as Cherry Berry, too. As I said, Hasbro had issues with that set. I don't like the set particularly as ponies, but all the mess ups around them fascinate me as a pony geek o.o.

I also love the Dancing Butterflies pose! I had her as a child and I thought it made her look so beautiful :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on August 30, 2018, 06:15:28 AM
I am sure Meezing doesn't literally mean 'sing a long'.

Actually it does. :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 30, 2018, 01:16:58 PM
I can't stand the Hyppogriffs. They don't look anything like a Hypogriff. They just look like claw footed deformed whatevers. Yes that includes the babies. They're just butt ugly.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: flutterscotch on August 30, 2018, 01:42:12 PM
I like the "fading pink" faded on most ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on August 30, 2018, 02:42:00 PM
I found this catalog page on the Wiki. I'm not sure if it's a typo or not but


http://mylittlewiki.org/w/images/9/9d/213.jpg


It calls both the unicorn and the yellow Earth pony Coco Berry and Crunch Berry/Cherry Berry as Swirly Whirly/Butter Kiss


I’m not sure how popular this opinion is but I love the Dancing Butterflies pose. :lovey:

Ponyfan

And if you squint you can see that the MOC Sherbet/Sorbet Surprise is labelled CHERRY Berry, which is the UK name for Crunch Berry. BUT I have a UK insert from 1988ish that lists that same pony as Cherry Berry, too. As I said, Hasbro had issues with that set. I don't like the set particularly as ponies, but all the mess ups around them fascinate me as a pony geek o.o.

I also love the Dancing Butterflies pose! I had her as a child and I thought it made her look so beautiful :D

I didn’t notice that the MOC said Cherry Berry. 😀 I wonder why Hasbro went through some many name switches with this set.

I can't stand the Hyppogriffs. They don't look anything like a Hypogriff. They just look like claw footed deformed whatevers. Yes that includes the babies. They're just butt ugly.

I like the hippogriffs but I do think their feet/claws look a little off.

Pic of Hippogriff Skystar


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 30, 2018, 03:14:35 PM
I am sure Meezing doesn't literally mean 'sing a long'.

Actually it does. :P

Really? Ok. In that case, the fail is in the Dutch naming sense then xD. I dunno how silly it sounds in Dutch in context, but it sounds really silly in English with the hyphenation.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nienna on September 01, 2018, 01:49:37 PM
I am sure Meezing doesn't literally mean 'sing a long'.

Actually it does. :P

Really? Ok. In that case, the fail is in the Dutch naming sense then xD. I dunno how silly it sounds in Dutch in context, but it sounds really silly in English with the hyphenation.

Yep, it does. And it sounds really stupid in Dutch, too, because "meezing" is a verb stem so it doesn't make a lick of sense as a proper name. That's why she is 'meezing-pony' I guess, which is more descriptive than it is a name. Well, Dutch names for ponies have always been terrible, we're better off just copying the English names :P

Edited to add: to clear up a little further, 'zingen' is the Dutch verb meaning 'sing'. 'Mee' is a preposition, in this case changing the meaning to 'singing along'. And because Dutch is the way it is, words are just added together without any hyphens or anything ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on September 02, 2018, 03:08:16 AM
to be fair, all of that set had descriptive names instead of 'proper' names, right? Poesjes-Pony, Dolfijn-Pony, School-Pony, etc. I guess it was a 'thing' they were doing for that set. So it's not just Meezing who has an awkward name (although I like it :P).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nienna on September 02, 2018, 04:02:06 AM
That's right, they are all awful :P

'Meezing' is probably hard to pronounce as well for non-Dutchies- 'mee' should be pronounced as the name 'May' and then 'zing' as in 'bazinga' ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on September 02, 2018, 08:49:06 AM
That's right, they are all awful :P

'Meezing' is probably hard to pronounce as well for non-Dutchies- 'mee' should be pronounced as the name 'May' and then 'zing' as in 'bazinga' ;)

Oh huh, interesting! I've been mispronouncing it all this time ^^;
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Dreamchaser on September 02, 2018, 08:54:39 AM
I remember the slogan for Dream Beauties were that they were MLPs all grown up. I hated them. First, did that mean that all ponies had babies as teenagers or something? And it furthered my veiw that becoming a grown up meant no more happiness with those hardened plastic frowns and glazed over dead eyes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 02, 2018, 09:03:45 AM
That's right, they are all awful :P

'Meezing' is probably hard to pronounce as well for non-Dutchies- 'mee' should be pronounced as the name 'May' and then 'zing' as in 'bazinga' ;)

Oh huh, interesting! I've been mispronouncing it all this time ^^;

I feel like making a really crass 'amazing' joke...

Thanks Nienna :D It's great to know the background to the names and the meanings. I am going to stick with Meezing as her name. Because even though I know it is a silly name, it sounds cooler than the English ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nienna on September 02, 2018, 10:11:28 AM


I feel like making a really crass 'amazing' joke...

Thanks Nienna :D It's great to know the background to the names and the meanings. I am going to stick with Meezing as her name. Because even though I know it is a silly name, it sounds cooler than the English ;)

It actually does sound like amazing without the -a, haha! I actually like her name better now :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 02, 2018, 02:14:24 PM
with those hardened plastic frowns and glazed over dead eyes.

Yeah, the Dream Beauties look really depressed / unhappy.  I get that they are molded to look more like real horses, but there's such a thing as getting too literal!

Fashion Star Fillies have the same thing going on, they all have expressions like they just got a letter saying they lost it all in the stock market or something.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 02, 2018, 02:37:33 PM
with those hardened plastic frowns and glazed over dead eyes.

Yeah, the Dream Beauties look really depressed / unhappy.  I get that they are molded to look more like real horses, but there's such a thing as getting too literal!

Fashion Star Fillies have the same thing going on, they all have expressions like they just got a letter saying they lost it all in the stock market or something.

That would be a good cause for that particular expression. :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sweet Daes on September 02, 2018, 04:08:18 PM
I've always gotten the impression that the Dream Beauties are more stead-fast and regal. They are meant to be "beautiful" like a horse and less "cute and adorable", hence why they have such a forward and powerful gaze. I see it as a serious, no bull expression that playtime is over and it's time to save the world.

Then again, those are my favorite installment of G1 because they are not so much short and stocky with all the cartoon proportions, despite their colors and gimmicks.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on September 02, 2018, 04:16:13 PM
I’m also not too fond of Dream Beauties. I had Song Rider in my childhood herd and if I remember correctly the most interesting thing was that you could swing her symbol down to get to the solid perfume hidden inside.  Dream Beauties are too big to really play with the other G1 ponies. I do like the Dream Beauties with wings and the glittery ones too.

I like Petite Ponies but can’t bring myself to pay $30 or more for a glow in the dark or twinkle petite.

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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 03, 2018, 12:17:47 AM
When I first found out about Dream Beauties, I found the concept kind of weird. I wasn't sure if I wanted them or not, but ultimately ended up getting them. But they don't really seem like MLP to me.

I agree with Ponyfan about the price of some Petites. I don't actively try to collect Petites because of this. I have some of the common sets MOC and then a handful of loose ones from different sets when price has allowed...

I am not convinced the UK got all of the later sets,even though they were advertised for here.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Esbayne on September 04, 2018, 08:21:38 AM
I agree with the Dream Beauties and Petites.
Although I do really love the Dream Beauties in a weird way. I think of them as like, alternate universe MLP. In some weird universe between ours and MLP's, where it's ALMOST realistic but still not. :lol: I'd love to have one someday. Though maybe not collect them, because they're pretty giant.

Just thought of an opinion here, not sure if unpopular or not.
Oakly weirds me out. Where are his ears!? He just kind of has these two mitten looking things sticking off his head.
If I didn't know beforehand, I'd have a hard time guessing he was supposed to be a moose.

Edit: Wow I'm just stupid! He DOES have ears. My mind has been blown. I just saw a photo of him at a different angle, I've only ever seen him from the front before. Whooooops! Ignore me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 04, 2018, 08:23:51 AM
The Dream Beauties are gorgeous! Being a model horse collector, I have no idea what you guys are on about with there supposed frowny-faces. XD They remind me of Fashion Star Fillies and She-Ra horses. Love that! I sure don't find their price attractive though. Haha!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SilverStarApple on September 07, 2018, 04:31:44 AM
You want to hear unpopular opinions?

Starlight Glimmer is the worst character any show has ever produced.

Chloe, Foop, and Sparky from FOP combined with Rey from Star Wars wasn't this bad.

And if I'm allowed to, I'll explain why.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 07, 2018, 06:07:07 AM
You want to hear unpopular opinions?

Starlight Glimmer is the worst character any show has ever produced.

Chloe, Foop, and Sparky from FOP combined with Rey from Star Wars wasn't this bad.

And if I'm allowed to, I'll explain why.

This is the unpopular opinion thread. Go for it!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 07, 2018, 07:31:49 AM
I agree with the Dream Beauties and Petites.
Although I do really love the Dream Beauties in a weird way. I think of them as like, alternate universe MLP. In some weird universe between ours and MLP's, where it's ALMOST realistic but still not. :lol: I'd love to have one someday. Though maybe not collect them, because they're pretty giant.

Just thought of an opinion here, not sure if unpopular or not.
Oakly weirds me out. Where are his ears!? He just kind of has these two mitten looking things sticking off his head.
If I didn't know beforehand, I'd have a hard time guessing he was supposed to be a moose.

Edit: Wow I'm just stupid! He DOES have ears. My mind has been blown. I just saw a photo of him at a different angle, I've only ever seen him from the front before. Whooooops! Ignore me.


It's funny you should mention this because his backcard story has the ponies asking why his ears are so weird and he's all, "LOL they're antlers, I'm a moose."

I might have already expressed this unpopular opinion but I'm not sure because this thread is so long . . . Ponies look better with neck-length hair than hair down to the floor.  Hair down to the floor makes them look less pony-like.

It is so aggravating to me that they use such long manes on the ponies in G3, G4, and a lot of sets in the latter half of G1.   IMO a long mane is  also more likely to end up with teased, frizzed, or otherwise wrecked if the pony has been played with by a child.

While we are on this subject:  ponies with ringlets in their hair.  What a terrible idea.  They are going to get butchered if the child ever brushes the pony's hair and they don't even look as good as 'natural' curls.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 07, 2018, 07:43:40 AM
I actually like the Rainbow Curl set a lot better with straight hair! I can't curl ringlets to save my life, and a flowing rainbow mane looks a bit nicer to me than curls that don't mix colors.
You want to hear unpopular opinions?

Starlight Glimmer is the worst character any show has ever produced.

Chloe, Foop, and Sparky from FOP combined with Rey from Star Wars wasn't this bad.

And if I'm allowed to, I'll explain why.
I love hearing people rag on Starlight! Please, go ahead!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 07, 2018, 08:11:14 AM
I agree with the Dream Beauties and Petites.
Although I do really love the Dream Beauties in a weird way. I think of them as like, alternate universe MLP. In some weird universe between ours and MLP's, where it's ALMOST realistic but still not. :lol: I'd love to have one someday. Though maybe not collect them, because they're pretty giant.

Just thought of an opinion here, not sure if unpopular or not.
Oakly weirds me out. Where are his ears!? He just kind of has these two mitten looking things sticking off his head.
If I didn't know beforehand, I'd have a hard time guessing he was supposed to be a moose.

Edit: Wow I'm just stupid! He DOES have ears. My mind has been blown. I just saw a photo of him at a different angle, I've only ever seen him from the front before. Whooooops! Ignore me.


It's funny you should mention this because his backcard story has the ponies asking why his ears are so weird and he's all, "LOL they're antlers, I'm a moose."

I might have already expressed this unpopular opinion but I'm not sure because this thread is so long . . . Ponies look better with neck-length hair than hair down to the floor.  Hair down to the floor makes them look less pony-like.

It is so aggravating to me that they use such long manes on the ponies in G3, G4, and a lot of sets in the latter half of G1.   IMO a long mane is  also more likely to end up with teased, frizzed, or otherwise wrecked if the pony has been played with by a child.

While we are on this subject:  ponies with ringlets in their hair.  What a terrible idea.  They are going to get butchered if the child ever brushes the pony's hair and they don't even look as good as 'natural' curls.

I'm not crazy about curls either. I don't care if I brush them out.  :bolt:

As far as long hair on G4s...well, I guess they gotta do something to cover up those bulbous heads.

I love the BnG ponies, but maaan their hair likes to gets in the way.  I brush it and it starts getting tangled minutes later I swear! It's crazy.  Wish they'd added thicker tails on the G3s and G4s. Drives me nuts.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 07, 2018, 01:58:02 PM
I love the long pony hair. On specific G1 sets. I think the G3s could do with growing into their hair, sometimes.

I adore Brush & Grows and their long hair. It is hard to store them neatly but I do and always did love styling them. But I found Braided Beauty stood up to all my styling pressure much better than Star Gleamer did. Tinsel in styling pony hair is not a good plan. It looks gorgeous when new, but it doesn't stand up to kids. All my Princess BnGs have their hair in permanent braids because their hair basically doesn't look great loose. It doesn't look great braided, either, but it isn't falling out that way.

I love factory curl but hate washing it. And I love the ringlets when absolutely mint. The ringlet ponies' hair is too long for me when brushed out. My Lemon Treats is tripping over her hair, because it's no longer ringletty.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 07, 2018, 02:00:31 PM
I love the long pony hair. On specific G1 sets. I think the G3s could do with growing into their hair, sometimes.

I adore Brush & Grows and their long hair. It is hard to store them neatly but I do and always did love styling them. But I found Braided Beauty stood up to all my styling pressure much better than Star Gleamer did. Tinsel in styling pony hair is not a good plan. It looks gorgeous when new, but it doesn't stand up to kids. All my Princess BnGs have their hair in permanent braids because their hair basically doesn't look great loose. It doesn't look great braided, either, but it isn't falling out that way.

I love factory curl but hate washing it. And I love the ringlets when absolutely mint. The ringlet ponies' hair is too long for me when brushed out. My Lemon Treats is tripping over her hair, because it's no longer ringletty.

They have great colors.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 08, 2018, 09:33:49 AM
@LAW - I find all of the mane 6 bland, cliche and uninspiring. I know that's going to be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think they're really good role models for 'friendship'.

I can't comment on Starlight Glimmer as a character because I gave up on FIM long before she was introduced. But as a toy collector I love her colouring, so I'm fine with her existing. I still really hope that the reboot will ditch the current mane 6 and invent at least some new characters to take their place, so I am not desperate to see Starlight Glimmer in G5 for that reason.

Also nobody in G4 matches up to Sunset Shimmer. Period :D <---unpopular opinion? I wonder.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 08, 2018, 09:44:51 AM
I like Starlight Glimmer.  The show became way more interesting after she was added to the cast as a reformed baddie.

Suggesting that the writers "hate MLP FIM and want it to die" is pretty silly.  They are professional writers;  if they hated a show they wouldn't work on it.  There are plenty more fish in the sea when it comes to cartoons.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 08, 2018, 10:34:55 AM
I like Starlight Glimmer.  The show became way more interesting after she was added to the cast as a reformed baddie.

Suggesting that the writers "hate MLP FIM and want it to die" is pretty silly.  They are professional writers;  if they hated a show they wouldn't work on it.  There are plenty more fish in the sea when it comes to cartoons.

:fish:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on September 08, 2018, 11:16:30 AM
I liked Diamond Tiara better when she was bully because it made the point that not everyone in your life is going to be your friend.

I alos think Starlight was forgiven too quickly for trying to destroy Equestria and she did turn to mind control a little too quickly for me but I think she does have some good character development epscially in "To Where and Back Again" She was shown to be afraid of being in charge/leading other ponies because she was afraid making the same mistakes again.

I'm also a fan of Thorax. :) I wish we would get more episodes featuring him.


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 08, 2018, 11:24:03 AM
I think Tiramisu is a rather boring pony. No offense to those who like her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 08, 2018, 11:28:02 AM
I think Tiramisu is a rather boring pony. No offense to those who like her.

*covers pony's eyes* You didn't see that, Tira. Nope. Nothing to see here at all ;)

She's sitting on my shelf looking at me in consternation ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on September 08, 2018, 11:44:02 AM
... I had a Tiramisu, but I donated her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on September 08, 2018, 11:48:37 AM
Groger is giving me nightmares again, someone help! He gave me nightmares when I first saw Return of Tambelon.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on September 08, 2018, 11:50:42 AM
You want to hear unpopular opinions?

Starlight Glimmer is the worst character any show has ever produced.

[snip]
Rey from Star Wars wasn't this bad.

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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 08, 2018, 11:54:26 AM
You want to hear unpopular opinions?

Starlight Glimmer is the worst character any show has ever produced.

[snip]
Rey from Star Wars wasn't this bad.

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Post Merge: September 08, 2018, 11:55:32 AM

I think Tiramisu is a rather boring pony. No offense to those who like her.

*covers pony's eyes* You didn't see that, Tira. Nope. Nothing to see here at all ;)

She's sitting on my shelf looking at me in consternation ;)

*Hands Taf and Tira cups of tiramisu coffee*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on September 08, 2018, 12:32:47 PM
You want to hear unpopular opinions?

Starlight Glimmer is the worst character any show has ever produced.

[snip]
Rey from Star Wars wasn't this bad.

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Rey and Starlight haters sustain my power :lol:

So you were a member of the Sith all along! I should have known.

Yep, t'was I - The Emperor!! Sadly the fandom fell in love with me and LucasFilm decided to ruin me in novels and prequels :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on September 08, 2018, 12:58:59 PM
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You don't love Starlight Glimmer, the way she is now, and you can't. Her fans love the idea of her far more than they actually love her, and while some are aware of this, most aren't.
While I doubt this is true for all of her fans... this is pretty much the case for me.  I put Starlight Glimmer on a pedestal for a while, but it then dawned on me that I didn't like the way she was being used or written by the time we got to season seven, and when I looked back, I saw that I wasn't pleased with how she was written since her first appearance, aside from the fact they redeemed her (more on that in a moment.)

I don't love Starlight as she is being written now - I may still love how she is designed and her voice, but that's pretty much it (other than the fact she is part of one of my OTPs), I love the idea of her, actually to be more honest, I love my idea of her.  I love the pony that I expected her to be after her first appearance, I love how I wanted the show to write her as a character/how I would have done it (and the really weird thing is, I don't even have a full idea of what that is!) 

I'll admit, I never really viewed her as a villain when she first appeared (I know this contradicts what you said, SilverStarApple), but more so as... an extremist, I guess.  Someone who really thinks they're doing the right thing, but their views on what is the right thing are wrong or corrupted. ("Well Intentioned Extremist" is the TV Tropes term.)  I realise that even then, I just projected my own idea of who Starlight could be onto the real Starlight, but I viewed it that she really did feel that ponies were better off equalised, and that she was making Equestria better (I even have a headcanon that if she had succeeded in equalising everyone, her final act would have been to equalise herself for real), and since she didn't seem evil enough for me (she just looked like an exaggerated version of that kid who wants everyone to share their opinions, but if the writers said is was communism, then I have to submit, at least with canon), and because she genuinely seemed sympathetic at the end, I not only assumed that she'd be redeemed, but I hoped she would be.

After that, the only thing the writers did "right" in my opinion (i.e. came close to what I wanted them to do - I am not really that kind of brony, I just sound like it here) was redeem her, and provide me with another OTP by creating Sunburst.  Other than that, it just didn't work for me how they were handling her, and it made no sense that she was suddenly acting more like an actual villain during the season 5 finale to me at the time, for the above reason (and it still seems like too much of a dramatic leap.)  I didn't even notice that she was supposedly more powerful than Princess Twilight Sparkle until Twilight said so, but it's true that she has no reason to be. 

I also don't like how they forced new friendships onto her with random characters, when she already has the Mane Six, Sunburst, and those four ponies - I actually thought that she could go on adventures with those four, and essentially be the "Twilight" of that group, since they kind of looked like an "Alternate Mane Six" even though there were four of them (five with Starlight) or stay with Sunburst (if it ended up being the former, I'd still have her spend a lot of time with Sunburst - also why make such a song and dance about how their friendship ending made her the way she was, when they're hardly going to interact once they reunite?), so most of the time, Starlight is having her own, off screen storylines, or appearing in the background, but showing up when needed - not being forced into the Mane Six.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 08, 2018, 03:17:36 PM
You want to hear unpopular opinions?

Starlight Glimmer is the worst character any show has ever produced.

[snip]
Rey from Star Wars wasn't this bad.

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So you were a member of the Sith all along! I should have known.

Yep, t'was I - The Emperor!! Sadly the fandom fell in love with me and LucasFilm decided to ruin me in novels and prequels :lol:

Curse them! *shakes force fist*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lady Frostbite on September 08, 2018, 03:54:10 PM
Here's my unpopular opinion. Twilight Sparkle is a bland, sucky, annoying character, with an okayish design.

This! I made a post about how annoying I found Twilight but not sure I can really repeat it.

I wish Queen Chrysalis didn't go down the 'bullying boss abusing lackies' route. I really liked the idea of a Queen who was 'evil' but doing what she needed to do for her people. I liked an illustration I saw in the comics of the Changlings all sleeping in cocoons in a hive with Chrysalis the only one not sealed away guarding them. That I really liked! I would love it if the Changlings needed to eat, and their food needs them to be antagonistic, and Chrysalis CARES for her brood and the hive know it! Them all suddenly turning really felt rushed :c

I love how calm and cool Tempest was in dealing with the Storm King. Like, no matter how stupid or ridiculous or evil he was being, she was always professional and respectful. That's really hard to pull off! Plus I like the heavy iron sounds her hooves make.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Minty_Magic on September 09, 2018, 01:50:55 AM
Quote from: SilverStarApple
You don't love Starlight Glimmer, the way she is now, and you can't. Her fans love the idea of her far more than they actually love her, and while some are aware of this, most aren't.

Hm, yeah I actually love Starlight Glimmer the way she is now.

You're allowed to dislike her, of course but are you and me even watching the same show? Starlight isn't a murderer. No idea where you're even getting that concept? She was an extremist. To be fair, I never even saw her as "evil" in her opening episode. Like okay...she stole ponies cutie marks to try and put them on the same playing field. Maybe I don't remember the episode right. but all her villagers were there on their own accord? She didn't kidnap anyone or force them into her ideology. The closest thing Starlight's village could be compared to is a cult, but again, unlike most cult leaders she wasn't trying to scam or harm these ponies. She honestly and truly believed in her vision of equality, even if it was extreme and misguided.

I do agree her redemption was incredibly swift, even by FiM standards, and at first I was hesitant about the idea of a "7th member". Over the course of the show though Starlight has really taken her own role and frankly given extra life to a show that had been going stale for a while. Although she has a light friendship with the mane 6, I think her firnedships outside of the main cast really shine. Her and Trixie especially feel like an actual real life friendship. They're both flawed and get on each others nerves sometimes, but they have a really strong bond and truly love each other through it all. Their friendship reminds me of so many of my own! She's also been a great voice of reason to Twilight when she gets swept up in her own thoughts and character flaws. She has provided much more to the show than other reformed villains. Especially a character like Discord who is still a menace and a bigger threat to the mane 6 and Equestria than Starlight is. He would have been much better off as a recurring villain.

You mention the mane 6 being believable friends, but honestly I've never really bought their friendship. They feel much more like a group of close co-workers than they do close friends.

The reason I love Starlight so much is because I see so much of myself in her. She's passionate about her views, she's stubborn, she's impulsive, she makes bad decisions on a whim! That's human nature, we all make bad calls! And I think it's really important to show that to kids so they can learn to deal with a bad mistake that has consequences! All throughout Starlight has also proven that she wants to be better and is constantly striving toward being a better friend.

You're allowed to dislike Starlight Glimmer for whatever reasons you please, and you're more than welcome to debate your views. But please do not imply that I don't know why I like a character or that I only like them because I'm a bad person like how you view that character and I'm living vicariously through them somehow.

Characters in tv shows or movies are nothing more than ideas and imagination. My views and ideas on a character's personality are just as valid as yours or anyone else's.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 09, 2018, 02:25:41 AM

You mention the mane 6 being believable friends, but honestly I've never really bought their friendship. They feel much more like a group of close co-workers than they do close friends.

I agree with this. I am venturing into really unpopular opinion territory now, but one of the reasons why I couldn't get into FIM is that they felt like they were forced together. There are numerous other issues that I have, not least the tendency to force their concept of friendship on other populations and Dash's animal cruelty episode which probably just finished any real ability within me to even respect her as a character...but I can't believe the friendship among the characters who claim to be promoting it and now teaching it. But weirdly I can believe it in EQG. EQG is far from perfect and follows the same plot over and over in terms of end villain...and it's frankly ridiculous in all regards to have ponies turning human and humans turning pony and stuff...but all that aside, the character interaction really works for me so I can forgive all the other issues. I am pretty sure though Sunset Shimmer is the reason it works in EQG where I can't stand it in FIM. I still can't stand Dash, she's really annoying, but it's tempered slightly by the dynamic in EQG which doesn't exist in FIM for me.

(quick caveat, while I didn't like her animated character, either, I have a special fondness for G3 Dash and I can't quite accept what Hasbro turned her into. She also doesn't resemble Firefly's animated character in the slightest, although she is almost as annoying as comic Firefly tended to be...just in a different way...)

Actually, reading all this debate on Starlight, I find myself considering watching her series, because she sounds much more interesting than any of the main characters, bad or good. And if she adds that dynamic to FIM that Sunset adds in EQG, then maybe it's worth my doing that. It's worth saying in the one episode Starlight is in EQG, I like her there.

I have a tendency to find more that's appealing in flawed and bad guy characters than in the 'heroes' because they're not saddled with the moral message of the show (and if they transgress, its not hypocritical).

So this may make me actually go back and watch FIM again. Which seasons is Starlight in?

Summarised:
Unpopular opinions -FIM girls aren't friends
EQG is better than FIM at character dynamic
G3 Dash > G4 Dash.
Starlight sounds more interesting for being a villain than any of the other FIM characters put together.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Goanna on September 09, 2018, 05:20:15 AM
Ooh I agree with so much of what you've said, Minty_Magic!
I definitely think that Starlight has added a breath of fresh air to the show and truly, I believe she is my favourite character at this point. She feels so much more 'real' than many of the other characters with the way she reacts to things. She gets anxious, she doubts herself, she messes up. That speaks to me a lot!

Taffeta- I think she appears for the first time in Season 5? And then she is added as a recurring cast member from Season 6 onwards :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 09, 2018, 06:36:26 AM
I saw Starlight Glimmer's about-face as totally natural . . . for a cartoon.  At 22 minutes per episode, you want the heel-turn to just HAPPEN, because it's the least exciting part of the episode compare to adventure and derring-do. 

It was the same in G1.  Someone might try to freeze everyone in Ponyland to death, or turn them all to glass, but at the end of the day it was:  "Oh, you're sorry now?  WE'RE FRIENDS!"

I like Twilight Sparkle quite a bit, but more when she was still an insecure student.  The "princess" plotline dragged her down for quite a while.  The other princesses are political heads-of-state, but Twilight isn't, soooo what exactly was she supposed to do?

I think this is the main reason Starlight Glimmer was introduced, so Twilight could DO something (be a mentor and a teacher).  I always did say I thought the ideal job for her was being a teacher, just sayin'.  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on September 09, 2018, 08:21:21 AM
We’re supposed to believe that Twilight is the ultimate friendship pony because she is the Princess of Friendship yet she judged Thorax immediately based on the fact that he was a Changeling and not for who he truly was.

She was also willing to endanger the entire Hippogriff population to save Equestria. I’m not saying Twilight shouldn’t have character flaws but she still has a lot to learn about friendship.

Going back to Starlight, the only marks she took by force were the Mane 6’s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jve2iIjyRrs

She did try to take revenge on Twilight but I don’t think Starlight realized that stopping the 6 ponies from becoming friends would lead to the destruction of Equestria. Double Diamond, Party Favor and Sugar Belle invited Starlight back to the villiage for the Sunset Festival. I don’t think they would have done that if they thought Starlight was completely evil.


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TJgamer on September 09, 2018, 11:14:04 AM
Starlight Glimmer is a lot of fun to watch. Her rebellious tendencies makes me want to side with her a lot.
Maybe it's because I kinda feel that Twilight and her friends haven't really earned their roles as mentors.

As for them being friends, there's a number of things to consider.

To start, whenever the entire group is together, it's usually to go on adventure or discuss the current situation at hand. Nothing wrong with that, it's just that we don't really get much growth from the characters' intermingling during these times.

That said, I can easily see duos like Rarity + Fluttershy working as well as Pinkie Pie + Rainbow Dash being friends. However there are some that still make no sense to me, such as Applejack + Rarity and to an extent Pinkie Pie + Fluttershy.
I get that all friends have their disagreements and fights, but all Applejack and Rarity do together is butt heads, and we see it so much.  >_<

Which leads me to another point. Obviously every episode has to have some form of conflict whether it be between friends, or some other external threat. Unfortunately because of that, we don't get to see quite enough of them actually being happy with each other. I've heard someone call it the "positivity void".

Fyi, I'm not a writing expert. That's just my take.   :lookround:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on September 09, 2018, 11:33:16 AM
From the looks of things, I may not collect any ponies from gen 5. With poor quality, distribution, and all that I am just about ready to toss in the towel on pony collecting.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 09, 2018, 02:54:31 PM
So absolutely because of the discussion on here about Starlight, I went and watched the two sets of episode on Prime where she has her village/takes the marks and where she tries to take revenge/almost destroys Equestria.

I dunno if there's more to her 'bad guy' aspect, and her flip at the end is kind of quick, but I don't see an issue with her personally. Maybe it's an unpopular opinion but she's more real to me than the mane 6.

From my perspective I don't think she's an extremist, either. She went to extremes but that's not quite the same thing. She didn't know the consequences of stopping the Rainboom. She had reasons for what she did and she also had reason to resent Twilight and company. Meh, to me she's fine.

If anything bothered me it was the fact that Twilight called her trauma ridiculous. That and the fact they decided to be friends with her on a whim to keep an eye on her and make sure she doesn't cause problems, because she's exceptionally talented.

Not to take this more off topic, but the thing that makes her more interesting than the mane 6 to me in just those few episodes is the fact she is so gifted magically (as Twilight acknowledged) but wanted a world in which nobody's talent shone. She used her magic not to be superior but to force a fake "equality" and "friendship" to prevent anyone moving on and leaving her. So she wasn't fulfilling her potential either because she saw her friend achieve his and leave her behind and it hurt her.

So yeah. I'm grateful to the discussion coming up. I find Starlight interesting.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on September 10, 2018, 02:10:07 AM
I guess my unpopular opinion is that Starlight is finally an "evil" protagonist that is interesting and can be shown working through her massive issues which is more helpful than all those defeated warlords.

Discord had them against each other a couple of times, manipulating them to break their friendship. First his reason was that he was just born that way. Then his reason was that he was jealous and possessive. Now he is back to "born that way" doing manipulation and bullying. First to Twilight and then to Starlight, whom he is supposed to be friends with. Not even forced friends like with the Mane Six but naturally progressed. Yet he keeps on bullying.
I could write an essay about how keeping such a character around just to create conflict reinforces a harmful message about just tolerating toxic "friends" because it is much more realistic than someone who goes back in time Butterfly Effect style.
But the truth is I started to not give a damn about Discord anymore and only bring him up as a "gotcha!" when people start ranting about Communist equalist Starlight :lol:

At least she had a reason. Even if that reason was rooted in insecurity/selfdoubt/anger. Same with Tempest - she got dropped by her friends for being disabled. Do you see many disabled people irl going around helping a dictator who wants to imprison you and kill your mentors?
Cartoons have over the top villainy sometimes to showcase the bland good side to be so much better.
And Starlight was shown that destroying friendship leads to war and famine - this is extremely nuts but as I could see back then all those cartoon critics loved the "gritty MLP" with death and destruction. Ridiculous.

A little girl watching MLP might find it more realistic to stop a misguided evildoer by teaching them and leading them. Which is what happens with Starlight. And she keeps on getting better. While with Discord girls see an irl troll and bully you just have to stand somehow even when he conspires with someone who can kill you (Tirek).

So yeah, by the end of the day it's called "friendship is magic" and not "lock 'em up" which leads me to my problem with their idea of Tartarus and just a bunch of tiny cages standing around with normal dangerous animals inside... now that is something I have an actual issue with :lol:
I wish these "bad" animals wouldn't get locked away but shown kindness like first intended with Fluttershy's character.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 10, 2018, 06:39:03 AM
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A little girl watching MLP might find it more realistic to stop a misguided evildoer by teaching them and leading them.

This reminds me of a post I read somewhere where a dad was introducing young kids to Dungeons & Dragons, and their first reaction to seeing a goblin--which is the low level Evil Grunt of D&D--was to try to befriend it because "Maybe he's just lonely."  :)

I loved the 2017 movie but yeah, having Fluttershy be scared of the weird animals in Klugetown was so wrong.  She should've been trying to free them.  Incidentally, apparently there was originally a subplot where the sea ponies locked up the Mane Six and Fluttershy convinced sea creatures to free them.  But it was cut for time.  :(

Starlight Glimmer actually seems a bit more nuanced than the Mane Six to me, possibly because she isn't the Element of [thing].  I really enjoyed that, even after 'turning good', she would sort of . . . try to do good things in a bad way.  I'm pretty sure I remember her trying to solve a friendship problem by screwing with ponies' heads, leading to disaster. And that is my jam.

I've never liked Discord, but the most recent episode with him had a particularly terrible moral.  Just complete BS.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on September 10, 2018, 06:46:18 AM
I'm not a big fan of Discord. I find it hard to believe that he is fully reformed due to the way he acts.  The only episode I've been able to buy his complete reformation is "To Where and Back Again" but it's obvious that he only joined the rescue party because Fluttershy was captured.  I've heard some suggest that Discord was just pretending to work with Tirek  but was really loyal to the ponies but that doesn't make sense when Discord gives Twilight the medallion and it turns in to Twilight's Friendship Key. The Friendship Keys are true symbols of friendship so it wouldn't have worked if Discord was just "playing along"

I also don't think he should have tried to throw Tree Hugger in to the alternate dimension just because Fluttershy invited her to the Grand Galloping Gala instead of him.


I think the sea ponies imprisioning the Mane 6 is mentioned in the Art of My Little Pony the movie book.:)  I'm pretty sure there's a picture of ananimation cel or concept art showing the Mane 6 looking through bars. I think it was probably supposed to fit in between Twilight getting caught and the next scene. There's also that seprate light up tower thing that comes with Sequestria. I wonder if that was part of the sea pony prison at one time.


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 10, 2018, 07:01:54 AM
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A little girl watching MLP might find it more realistic to stop a misguided evildoer by teaching them and leading them.

This reminds me of a post I read somewhere where a dad was introducing young kids to Dungeons & Dragons, and their first reaction to seeing a goblin--which is the low level Evil Grunt of D&D--was to try to befriend it because "Maybe he's just lonely."  :)

I loved the 2017 movie but yeah, having Fluttershy be scared of the weird animals in Klugetown was so wrong.  She should've been trying to free them.  Incidentally, apparently there was originally a subplot where the sea ponies locked up the Mane Six and Fluttershy convinced sea creatures to free them.  But it was cut for time.  :(

Starlight Glimmer actually seems a bit more nuanced than the Mane Six to me, possibly because she isn't the Element of [thing].  I really enjoyed that, even after 'turning good', she would sort of . . . try to do good things in a bad way.  I'm pretty sure I remember her trying to solve a friendship problem by screwing with ponies' heads, leading to disaster. And that is my jam.

I've never liked Discord, but the most recent episode with him had a particularly terrible moral.  Just complete BS.

On the one hand, nothing wrong with compassion. Its better then learning to hate people different then you.

On the other hand, its up to parents to try and teach kids that not everyone is misunderstood and that some people out there are TRULY horrible or dangerous. They'll learn, many people learn that without serious incident.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on September 10, 2018, 08:59:09 AM
Unpopular opinion: I like to watch people debate the quality of characters in a children's show. :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 10, 2018, 09:50:10 AM
Unpopular opinion: I like to watch people debate the quality of characters in a children's show. :P

Oh, me too!

Starlight discussion stuff in spoiler as somewhat OT, albeit I imagine most of it would count as 'unpopular opinion'
Spoiler
I can't comment on Starlight in all of her ep appearances, having only watched those 4. I think I am ok with her basically because I understand where she came from, why and how she ended up where she was. And ultimately she didn't want to destroy Equestria, she wanted to make it an equality utopia, completely missing the point that equality is not the same as, well, same.

I genuinely feel uncomfortable watching the mane 6 practice friendship in some episodes I have seen. Saying Starlight's neuroses were ridiculous because she couldn't relate to them was one of those moments. In Starlight's village, they were fundamentally rude (except Fluttershy) on encountering a different perspective of living. I don't say Starlight was right, but they should have been more open to that difference before assuming it was bad. I mean, Pinkie is hate glaring and judging the 'fake smiles' from the start. I get that's meant to clue kids in that This Is Wrong...but is it wrong? What Starlight did to make it happen is wrong and as time goes on, you realise yes, it is wrong because some of the ponies are unhappy and frightened. But in that initial moment, I dunno.

I am prone to overanalysing things because that's basically what I do in my academia, and I get it's a kid's show so there are a lot of very obvious pointers. But ironically I feel like it's a message preaching that everyone is different by telling them all to experience friendship in the same way ;) It reminded me a lot of an episode of Jem called Roxy Rumbles, when Jem and the Holograms make nusiances of themselves telling people to just go learn to read instead of actually finding out why people can't. They basically get shown up by a ten year old who is the only one in the whole of the show that actually 'gets it'.

I do wonder about the voiceless individuals in Starlight's village whose opinion we never actually heard. And I also wonder about why so many ponies followed and believed Starlight's rhetoric and what had happened to them to bring to them to this point? The Mane 6 are not at all concerned with that depth. Again, kids tv show But we see a lot of them being brainwashed in a room, and not so much of them actually trying to understand what led the ponies to Starlight's village in the first place. So the show only presents the negatives of Starlight's mantra because it doesn't fit mane 6 friendship rhetoric.


Going back on topic of unpopular opinions..I really don't like Twilight as an alicorn. I have no issue with Starlight using magic to fly, unicorns have been doing that since G1 (at least in the comics they have) and even sometimes earth ponies. But I feel like alicorn is too much for a regular cast member. It should be left to the ancient divine types like Celestia and Luna. In my opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 10, 2018, 11:21:17 AM
Yeah . . . I loved Celestia and Luna being the ONLY alicorns.

I have NEVER liked the idea of alicorns in MLP context before, it is not something I've ever wanted and in fact I kind of hate the idea.  It's just too extra.  But it made sense for those two because they were practically Greek deities, raising the sun and moon!

Then suddenly it's alicornpalooza.  Cadence, who BTW was originally scripted to be a UNICORN and I'm sure they only made her an alicorn so they'd have a pink alicorn to sell in place of Pinkestia.  Twilight Sparkle.  Flurry Heart. 

Flurry Heart is the worst narratively because she hasn't done anything to 'earn' it.  (Maybe if she doesn't do something grand when she grows up, her wings or horn will fall off? :P )  Although as a character, I'm surprised by how non-annoying Flurry Heart is.  I was expecting her to be the Scrappy Doo of the show, a constant annoying sidekick.  But she hardly ever shows up.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lady Frostbite on September 10, 2018, 01:12:48 PM
I liked Celestia and Luna being the only Alicorns, but I wasn't too fussed about Cadence being one. Then again, I like Cadence! I like how she's more a 'teenage' level of Princess to start with, upbeat and getting on her hooves. I know there's a story where she was originally a pegasus that became an alicorn through some adventure, I just hated how she was introduced as Twilight's unmentioned brother's bride. Like, at least mention she exists before then! I would have been okay if she were a pegasus princess as well, so I'm fine either way. She's really pretty and has a sweet personality.

Flurry Heart ... I hate her design. Colours? Yes, lovely! But her huge eyes and gigantic head and overblown wings ... it's when Celestia and Luna said they didn't know how Alicorns were made or born that I had to go 'wait, whaaaaaaaat'. I'd have liked it if Celestia just laughed and said that sometimes they're born rather than made. But that confusion? It just makes the Sisters look like idiots.

Yeah, to echo what's already been said, I never got into FIM because I didn't buy all of the mane 6 being friends. Sure, some I can accept after interaction and adjustments, like seeing Rarity and Fluttershy go for a spa day or Rarity understanding Fluttershy's limits, but ponies like Twilight and Rainbow, or Rarity and Applejack? Never! I expect some to be bitter enemies!

Gilda is the most maligned 'baddie' ever. I though she was totally right in the first half of the episode; she was trying to catch up with Rainbow Dash and Pinkie would simply not stop trying to barge into their alone time. Take a hint, Pinkie! Not everyone likes a third wheel! It made her being mean and stealing on purpose afterwards seem forced to make her seem like a real villain.

Slice of Life is a cringy episode.

I STILL don't understand the appeal of discord. He is annoying and distracting everytime he appears.

I hate Maud's boyfriend with a passion.

More episodes need to let Spike be the mature, level-headed helper he can be. He's at his best that way, like talking down Twilight's anxiety.

Twilight has so much going for her I just cannot like her. And she gets praise for being the 'everypony' when she quite clearly is NOT. Do I aspire to be Twilight? Absolutely not. I've been actively talked down to and bullied for liking books, so she can be praised all she likes but I 'm not joining in just because she is smart.

For Starlight, I liked the idea of a cult pony, but her village forgave her FAR too quickly, she was forgiven too quickly, and she suffered no consequences, and hasn't learned in her friendship tutorials. She's no Sunset Shimmer.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 10, 2018, 01:26:58 PM
I don't think Maud's boyfriend is supposed to be likeable.  I think the message of that episode wasn't "You can become friends with ANYONE once you get to know them!", but more like "Yeah, sometimes you will hate your sister's / brother's / friend's significant other, but if they make your buddy happy then suck it up and be civil, because it's not all about you."
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on September 10, 2018, 01:42:14 PM
I prefer Discord as a bad guy. 

I don't like the premise that everyone has to be good friends with the people that hurt them.  That's not a new message.  Little girls have been told they have to be nice, sweet, put their own needs aside, make everyone else happy and suffer silently for eons. 

I don't like that ponies turn into alicorns to show that they're special and need to live in a castle.  That's just... weird.  What are earth ponies suppose to make of that?

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on September 10, 2018, 01:58:30 PM
Going back to Starlight I didn’t like how Twilight treated her in “Shadow Play” after Starswirl appeared. Starlight is still learning about friendship yet once Twilight had Starswirl to talk to she let him influence her and started downplaying or dismissing  Starlight’s suggestions. Maybe because I’ve had people do the same to me in real life I felt really sorry for Starlight at that point. I don't expect Twilight to be absolutely perfect but she makes too many mistakes for someone that earned becoming an alicorn becaude she understood the importance of friendship more than any other pony ever had.

Trixie is a little annoying to me at times but I can put up with her in small doses. I think it has to do with the way she talks in 3rd person saying stuff like “Even Trixie makes mistakes.”


I wish we’d see the baby characters like Pumpkin and Pound Cake grow up a bit. Flurry Heart hasn’t been around as long as they have so I can overlook her still being a baby.

How did Hasbro think the G1  first tooth babies were supposed to brush their teeth, with their hooves? :lol:

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on September 10, 2018, 02:53:32 PM
Star Catcher is a bit of a...............Normie Pony. Like anyone who's asked who their favourite G3 is, she's usually in the top spot. Tbf I was ALL over her as a kid when she first came out, because of her goddess-like presence and the fact she wasn't an earth pony :P As an adult I don't find her to be as special. However, the SC toy used in the little pamphlet that came Friendship Ball ponies? Beautiful. Maybe it's the lighting, maybe it really is coloured differently but I love the darker colours. She looks more ethereal. STILL on the topic of SC I prefer the one with the foil wings to the regular pegasus release. Giving her normal wings and no body patterns definitely makes her even LESS special.

G3 pegasuses in general I don't like. It's not because of the wings (I think they're cute) or the designs of the pegasuses released, it's the pose, or lack thereof. It's only one pose!!!! You could say, "Oh there's two poses" but no, there is not!!! It's the same pose, just mirrored!! And it's not very interesting either.

The Fizzy Pop pose is underrated. She's so playful and pouncy!!! I like the walking (Pinkie Pie) pose too, because of how small it makes the pony look.

This kinda goes back to "I like the dark SC better than the official release", and it's not really an unpopular opinion probably, but I wish there were more ponies with muted or darker colourschemes. There's a lot you can do with black, brown, and grey! I'd especially love to see grey ponies, since I think grey is an underrated colour in general. It looks good with all sorts of colours! And black and brown have a lot of design potential too ofc. I'm hoping we get brushables of the longma in the G5 concept arts, I LOVE the idea of having glowing optic fiber dragon ponies (dragon ponies I'd love, period, but them being neon is the best possible outcome). And they all have dark bodies with bright glowing horns and features, they're so pretty!!!

Finally, I'm surprised it's taken Hasbro this long to give us ponies with markings. Ponies like Bubbles have stars and I know the first prototypes were more realistically coloured but I love seeing ponies with face markings, spots, whatever!! It adds more design choices. I can see why maybe they would avoid doing this, it might get in the way of the cutie mark, it might be hard to mass-produce, whatever. Especially with how lazy Hasbro has been lately. :/ G4s don't have their eye gradients anymore ever since Rainbow Power, Spike doesn't have any eyelashes/lines around his eyes, and his teeth are never even coloured in. Zecora has her bangles painted only halfway on her legs, and that carries on to the ponies with painted features like the Power Ponies or the new school uniform ponies. It makes me kinda "ehh" at the reality of ponies with markings as toys, but as a concept, I like it.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 10, 2018, 07:13:19 PM
Actually there are more then 2 Pegasus poses Ragamuffin.
There is:
Coconut Grove pose
Styling Starcatcher pose
Silver Glow pose
Baby Honolulu pose
Starsong Pose
Heart Bright pose
Star Flite pose
Baby Mochanut pose

Although they should have added more in the other poses. As well as made all the pegasus.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on September 10, 2018, 09:00:42 PM
Actually there are more then 2 Pegasus poses Ragamuffin.
There is:
Coconut Grove pose
Styling Starcatcher pose
Silver Glow pose
Baby Honolulu pose
Starsong Pose
Heart Bright pose
Star Flite pose
Baby Mochanut pose

Although they should have added more in the other poses. As well as made all the pegasus.

Silver Glow and Coconut Grove were the two I was talking about specifically. They both have their head to the side, front leg bent, hind leg out, mouth open... if you put them next to each other it's like they're looking in a mirror!
Heart Bright and Star Flight are earth ponies with wings stuck on iirc, and I normally don't count Star Song just for personal reasons (Core7 all use the same pose, Star just has wings and the others don't), but if I do count her, she doesn't help any :P Core7 and the Wysteria pose are my least favourites; they're bland overused standing poses.

Mochanut is very cute and very tiny!!! I wish there were more baby pegasuses released. I love Honolu-loo too. Another unpopular opinion, I like G3 babies. Not enough to go out of my way to collect them (I'd rather save my money for an adult, any gen), but I don't mind the longer legs at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on September 10, 2018, 09:27:03 PM
I see G3 babies on plenty of wishlists. I thought they were popular. I loved collecting them as a kid about as much as I loved collecting white G3s. I still have Honolu-loo but my sister recently sold her Mochanut.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 10, 2018, 11:05:06 PM
I love G3 babies! I have Honaluloo living here with me in London as one of my select group of ponies here. I think her tiny wings are adorable. I also have Mochanaut. I wish they did baby unicorns...but the babies are all adorable and I want all of them except Tea Lily (because of her known hair rot issues).

I like Star Catcher, I am not sure she's everyone's top G3 pony - but I also agree the fabric wings one is better. I just got Starsong for the first time and her little stubby wings are odd but I like the pegasus ponies and her colours are nice so I don't mind having one. I love the G3 pegasus ponies and want to have all of them, though I had to sell Coconut Grove because I could not stand her scent. One day I will find one that doesn't reek so strongly. Having hypersensitive sense of smell is not a Good Thing where scented ponies are concerned, although at least I'm lucky enough not to deal with some of the extreme reactions some folk here have to scented things.

Unpopular opinion - can do without 'sweet' scents. I love the Perfume Puffs though. Their perfumes don't bother me at all. I also love their hair, which I think is also an unpopular opinion. It takes work to get it neat but it looks awesome all the same.

I agree on the Friendship School. It turned the uncomfortable "never mind we destroyed your ancient priceless cultural artefact, you now have friendship and that's better" cultural insensitivity into "only ponies can teach about friendship". I really don't like that message at all, its telling kids that people who are different, in whatever way, need to be taught stuff to be 'normal'. Like LAW I guess I've been in that position too much as well. The moral message in FIM about how friendship works has been broken from the start for me, which is one reason why some of the people who jumped on the bandwagon rip other people to pieces for 'not understanding friendship properly'. It's not actually teaching about friendship, it's creating tribes of "do" and "don't do". I still think the friendship school and the mane 6 rhetoric is as oppressive as Starlight's. The two episodes that still really bother me are that one with the Griffon artefact and the one where Dash makes the animals race and is horrible to Tank. One is about forcing another people to accept your culture while destroying aspects of theirs. The other is plain animal cruelty.

If you think about it laterally, that ep with Pinkie and Dash and the artefact reflects how the crazier bronies deal with G1. They push their idea that FIM is better while trashing G1...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: CloudyGlow on September 11, 2018, 05:18:41 AM
I don't know where most people stand on this, but I kind of like the look of ponies with always present eyebrows. Tree Hugger for example. Are pony eyebrows unique to G4?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on September 11, 2018, 06:00:55 AM
There's also the FIM episode about the Yaks where the ponies went out of their way to make the Yaks comfortable, the Yaks destroyed everything the ponies did and were quite rude. Pinkie somehow found out what the Yaks wanted and the lesson was supposed to be "when people come to visit, show them what is unique about where you live" In other words the ponies were in the wrong for trying to make their guests feel at home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKMGXsVhNtQ


I love the first G3 Star Catcher with the fabric wings. I should really find an upgrade as mine has a lot of issues inlcuding wrinkled wings and faded pink hair to white. I really like her in the G3 cartoons especically the one with Skywishes. Baby Honoluloo just became a wishlist pony. :)


Ponyfan

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 11, 2018, 06:51:13 AM
G3 Babies are precious. (Sadly, so is space. :( )

I just got my first G3 baby this year. Honolulu is so cute and she makes an adorable daughter for Paradise. I intend to get Baby Sandy Island and Baby Lavender Locket too. But I can't decide on the 3rd one. Because I also love Penny Candy, Wave Catcher, Bellaluna, Tea Lily, Surf Star and Keen Bean. Stop being so adorable G3 babies, I don't have room for all of you!


FiM moralizing is Hasbro's usual ham fisted attempt to try and teach something, but falling so far off the mark its either harmful or laughable. They really need to quit, because they're too far ahead. I know people rag on Tales for doing the same, but its subtle in comparison. Hopefully, Gen 5 will ditch the life lessons aspect and just make a fun cartoon. That would be nice.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 11, 2018, 07:08:07 AM
Tales may be subtle but it is the worst of the MLP shows when it comes to morals.

"If a boy blackmails you, it means he LIKES you!  You should go out with him!"

"A boy who gets jealous of a pig (seriously?) and purposely drives it away from its home to get lost is GREAT boyfriend material!  Animal cruelty is okay if it's a sign that he ~likes~ you!"

"The boy you have a crush on isn't into you?  Remold yourself into what you think he wants instead of being yourself!  The moral is:  it will totally work!"   This episode also had Starlight tell Patch that she still doesn't like soccer right at the end, just to make sure the viewer doesn't forget that what Starlight was getting out of this was A Boyfriend, not pride in her own accomplishments or any kind of personal growth.

Other shows have had some stinkers too, with GARF or the terrible MLP FIM buffalo episode, but MLP Tales had the highest percentage of terrible morals IMO, given how few episodes it actually had.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 11, 2018, 07:38:29 AM
Tales may be subtle but it is the worst of the MLP shows when it comes to morals.

"If a boy blackmails you, it means he LIKES you!  You should go out with him!"

"A boy who gets jealous of a pig (seriously?) and purposely drives it away from its home to get lost is GREAT boyfriend material!  Animal cruelty is okay if it's a sign that he ~likes~ you!"

"The boy you have a crush on isn't into you?  Remold yourself into what you think he wants instead of being yourself!  The moral is:  it will totally work!"   This episode also had Starlight tell Patch that she still doesn't like soccer right at the end, just to make sure the viewer doesn't forget that what Starlight was getting out of this was A Boyfriend, not pride in her own accomplishments or any kind of personal growth.

Other shows have had some stinkers too, with GARF or the terrible MLP FIM buffalo episode, but MLP Tales had the highest percentage of terrible morals IMO, given how few episodes it actually had.


Oh I was being facetious when I said it was subtle in comparison. Sorry.  ^^;

I didn't think of those examples as morals as much as just bratty, confused kids, being bratty and confused kids. :D

Tales morals is more along the lines of environmental messages, the unfortunate student exchange episode, getting along for the sake of a friend, etc.

My point is. Hasbro doth truly sucketh at moralizing.


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 11, 2018, 07:55:56 AM
LOL, no problem!

They weren't explicitly stated as morals, but the message was there.   The viewer was supposed to cheer when one of the girl ponies made nice with Ace or Teddy . . . God knows why.

The student exchange episode was good, it had a good song too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 11, 2018, 08:41:31 AM
I agree with LAW that most of the issues in Tales are bratty kids being bratty kids to each other. True, there are some outdated 90s values in there, but I liked that there was a certain fluidity about the characters being able to be themselves. I mean, BonBon wanted to be a model. She didn't stereotypically want to be a chef, even though she's always baking. She wanted to be a model. The girls let a guy join their tea club. And so on. They tackled more mundane themes like jealousy, cheating, fights between friends, gossip, insecurity.

FIM has much bigger global level issues that bother me. Destroying another culture's heritage is fine in the pursuit of imposing the "right" cultural outlook. Teaching other races and peoples the "proper" way to be friends. I prefer the storylines where a couple of the guys were idiots, but where there wasn't mass brainwashing going on.

I should also say that it bothered me a little that in the ep Starlight takes cutie marks, they all lost their skills. Kind of. It didn't really work, but it bothered me that Applejack's 'skill' was apparently...being country? What?



Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 11, 2018, 09:06:58 AM
I agree that the whole "ponies teach other species friendship, like Friendship Missionaries" and "ponies know best" aspects are really questionable.  Also it's really cringy how they base some species / countries off real cultures / countries.  If the buffalo are meant to be the equivalent of Native Americans (which they obviously are) then the unfortunate implication that leaves is:  none of the ponies are the equivalent of Native Americans.  So if you're an Indian kid watching the show, what you were just told is:  "Hey, those main characters?  They don't represent YOU."

(Of course the episode had way more issues that just that, but that jumped out at me.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 11, 2018, 03:07:51 PM
l love Pepper Berry. I  don't get the whole putting pepper on a strawberry thing, its a pretty weird symbol, and I'm not crazy on that pose, but she's a pretty wild colored pony and I sure would like to have her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on September 11, 2018, 03:08:36 PM
l love Pepper Berry. I  don't get the whole putting pepper on a strawberry thing, its a pretty weird symbol, and I'm not crazy on that pose, but she's a pretty wild colored pony and I sure would like to have her.

Pepper Berry is stunning, honestly one of my favorite G3s! Is she unpopular? I've got her MOC, but I'd love to have a loose one someday too!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 11, 2018, 03:09:06 PM
l love Pepper Berry. I  don't get the whole putting pepper on a strawberry thing, its a pretty weird symbol, and I'm not crazy on that pose, but she's a pretty wild colored pony and I sure would like to have her.

Does Pepperberry have the issues with hair rot etc that some of the other discount ponies have? She's the one which is salmony pink with really reddish hair, right, in the diva pose? I'm pretty sure she was one of those...?

I kind of like her too. Even though those colours should not work. I really hope she doesn't have those issues :( it's the most heartbreaking thing that can happen, seriously.

So maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I find the idea of hair rotting/falling out way way worse and more traumatic than the idea of plasticiser leakage or regrind, even if it discolours the pony in the process...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 11, 2018, 03:11:09 PM
l love Pepper Berry. I  don't get the whole putting pepper on a strawberry thing, its a pretty weird symbol, and I'm not crazy on that pose, but she's a pretty wild colored pony and I sure would like to have her.

Pepper Berry is stunning, honestly one of my favorite G3s! Is she unpopular? I've got her MOC, but I'd love to have a loose one someday too!

She doesn't seem to be very talked about. I can't decide if she's deep pinky-orange, or reddish-pink or something else entirely. Surely it wouldn't go over my pony limit to get her so I can inspect her closely right?  :devious:

Post Merge: September 11, 2018, 03:13:16 PM

l love Pepper Berry. I  don't get the whole putting pepper on a strawberry thing, its a pretty weird symbol, and I'm not crazy on that pose, but she's a pretty wild colored pony and I sure would like to have her.

Does Pepperberry have the issues with hair rot etc that some of the other discount ponies have? She's the one which is salmony pink with really reddish hair, right, in the diva pose? I'm pretty sure she was one of those...?

I kind of like her too. Even though those colours should not work. I really hope she doesn't have those issues :( it's the most heartbreaking thing that can happen, seriously.

So maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I find the idea of hair rotting/falling out way way worse and more traumatic than the idea of plasticiser leakage or regrind, even if it discolours the pony in the process...

I'm okay with regrind.
.
Plasticizer leak is something I've not had issues with yet. *knocks on wood*

Hair rot might actually make me burst into tears of frustration
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 11, 2018, 03:19:56 PM


Hair rot might actually make me burst into tears of frustration

Me too, for sure. I'm sitting here looking at the Trickles I have on my shelf here in London and her hair is still perfectly shiny as though she were new yesterday. Aside marvelling at the fact she's over 30 years old and still has such nice hair, the idea of that just decaying and falling out is just...*shivers*.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Loa on September 11, 2018, 03:23:20 PM
Hi everyone, I apologise for letting someone taint this amusing thread with racism. Issue & offending posts now removed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on September 11, 2018, 03:24:26 PM
l love Pepper Berry. I  don't get the whole putting pepper on a strawberry thing, its a pretty weird symbol, and I'm not crazy on that pose, but she's a pretty wild colored pony and I sure would like to have her.

Does Pepperberry have the issues with hair rot etc that some of the other discount ponies have? She's the one which is salmony pink with really reddish hair, right, in the diva pose? I'm pretty sure she was one of those...?

I kind of like her too. Even though those colours should not work. I really hope she doesn't have those issues :( it's the most heartbreaking thing that can happen, seriously.

So maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I find the idea of hair rotting/falling out way way worse and more traumatic than the idea of plasticiser leakage or regrind, even if it discolours the pony in the process...

Hair rot is the WORST! I can tolerate plasticiser leakage alright, but hair rot, I hate it. Cause then you've gotta go out and buy new hair and rehairing tools. My Jazz Matazz and Wave Catcher both had hair rot issues (Jazz Matazz with her pink, Wave Catcher with her orange) but I still need to get a rehairing tool and replacement hair. And even when I get around to doing that I'll have to go through the frustrating of getting their heads off, G3 glue is such a pain to loosen up and I really don't feel like doing it, haha.

I haven't heard of Pepper Berry having rot issues, but since she is a budget one I wouldn't be surprised if she can get it too. Since mine is MOC though, I have no idea if mine has the issue and can't check.

Hi everyone, I apologise for letting someone taint this amusing thread with racism. Issue & offending posts now removed.

Thank you, Loa! :iconclap:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 11, 2018, 03:28:04 PM
Loa, you are a hero.  <3
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 11, 2018, 03:30:57 PM

I haven't heard of Pepper Berry having rot issues, but since she is a budget one I wouldn't be surprised if she can get it too. Since mine is MOC though, I have no idea if mine has the issue and can't check.

Mine is loose...and in storage with my other G3. I just had the horrible thought of when they come down, her hair being in the bag and not on her head. But the last time I saw her she was fine, with her sassy clashing colour scheme and her expression that basically says its not her problem if I think her colours clash.

Fingers cross the red she uses doesn't have this problem.

I refuse to get JazzMatazz or Tea Lily because of the risk of rot, even though I think their colours are very pretty. I can rehair, and have rehaired a G3 before (a Pinkie Pie to make Snowflake back when they were in stores) and you are not kidding about G3 heads - but I don't really like to do it as a 'restoration' thing. And I don't know if I could take it, if one of my ponies suddenly had breaking hair :'(

Speaking of G3, and I don't even really like the Diva pose, but I have come to believe that the matte Wysteria from (I think) the seaside/holiday set release is the nicest version of this pony. Matte somehow works so nicely with her colour scheme.

My pony display currently has as its backdrop the Japanese calligraphy pieces the shamisen teacher I met in Kusatsu did for me as a 'Welcome to Japan' gift. And I picked up this version of Wysteria at the carboot the other week. I never had her loose before, only MIB, but she fits so well with the whole Japanese theme <3.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 11, 2018, 03:32:07 PM
I'm okay with the diva pose but I don't LOVE it like some people do.

I like the head turned open mouthed pose and the donkey pose, which I know are both . . . not universally loved.  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 11, 2018, 03:35:47 PM
I'm okay with the diva pose but I don't LOVE it like some people do.

I like the head turned open mouthed pose and the donkey pose, which I know are both . . . not universally loved.  :P

For me the Diva pose depends on the pony. Some it suits, like Pepperberry and seaside Wysteria. Some it doesn't so much.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 11, 2018, 03:39:03 PM
Hi everyone, I apologise for letting someone taint this amusing thread with racism. Issue & offending posts now removed.

Thank you Loa.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on September 11, 2018, 03:39:46 PM
l love Pepper Berry. I  don't get the whole putting pepper on a strawberry thing, its a pretty weird symbol, and I'm not crazy on that pose, but she's a pretty wild colored pony and I sure would like to have her.

I saw her at the flea market on Sunday. She stood out cuz of her symbol. I thought it was salt at first, like how people will put salt on melons to make them sweeter.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on September 11, 2018, 03:44:49 PM
I don't have much of an opinion on the diva pose, it's just another pose to me. Though I do like how compact it is, it feels like I can get ponies in that pose pretty close together, which is nice when I display my G3s by pose!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Loa on September 11, 2018, 04:01:02 PM
I still deeply dislike Banana Surprise.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on September 11, 2018, 04:04:41 PM
Does anyone else have a "weird affinity pony"? Like for me I'm just drawn to Sew-and-So. I love the colour orange but I'm indifferent to Sew-and-So design-wise. But I'm SO attracted to her. Another one is Summer Bloom. She's a very plain, kind of boring pony, but there's Just Something About Her. My taste in ponies is otherwise predictable, I know what I like (yellow ponies with bright green in their hair, please!! I LOVE Guava Lava), so Sew-and-So and Summer Bloom are just. Weird.

Also Muse and Romperooni are some of my favourites. Purple and orange look really good on a pony! I can't think of a lot of ponies that are purple with orange hair. Probably because whoever's designing ponies are more gravitated towards saturated colours? Which admittedly orange on purple look kind of bad, unless you're designing something for Halloween. If you desaturate them, I love it!! It reminds me of a really late summer sunset or something.

I like the second set of G1 rainbow ponies better than the first set, and Confetti is on the top of my most wanted list. Pink/yellow/green/blue is common on ponies, but orange/pink/yellow/blue is unique. The body colours and symbols are unique too. The only rainbow pony I got out of the repros was Moonstone because I don't have much interest in the others, but I'd be more inclined to buy them all if they released this set instead ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 11, 2018, 04:10:41 PM
I'm not a fan of Banana Surprise either. (At least have some yellow somewhere, darnit, instead of wishy pink and dull aqua!). And I also like the 2nd set Rainbows better. Am still angry with Hasbro more than 30 years later that the UK didn't get them :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 11, 2018, 04:12:10 PM
l love Pepper Berry. I  don't get the whole putting pepper on a strawberry thing, its a pretty weird symbol, and I'm not crazy on that pose, but she's a pretty wild colored pony and I sure would like to have her.

I saw her at the flea market on Sunday. She stood out cuz of her symbol. I thought it was salt at first, like how people will put salt on melons to make them sweeter.

I do the salt and fruit thing. I turned several friends onto it, who initially thought it was gross

Post Merge: September 11, 2018, 04:13:09 PM

I still deeply dislike Banana Surprise.

Yeah, she's not a very ...exciting pony. Her color scheme is nice, but overdone.

Post Merge: September 11, 2018, 04:17:24 PM

I'm not a fan of Banana Surprise either. (At least have some yellow somewhere, darnit, instead of wishy pink and dull aqua!). And I also like the 2nd set Rainbows better. Am still angry with Hasbro more than 30 years later that the UK didn't get them :/

She should have been yellow. Good point Taf.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on September 11, 2018, 04:22:45 PM
Banana Surprise has a pretty cute color scheme IMO, but her colors certainly don't match her name.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 11, 2018, 04:34:59 PM
Banana Surprise has a pretty cute color scheme IMO, but her colors certainly don't match her name.

I guess that's the surprise.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on September 11, 2018, 04:51:25 PM
Banana Surprise has a pretty cute color scheme IMO, but her colors certainly don't match her name.

I guess that's the surprise.

Haha, it must be! There's something that attracts me to her colors though, not quite sure what. I just like that color scheme, for whatever reason. Even if the colors have absolutely nothing to do with bananas....
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 11, 2018, 06:25:20 PM
Does anyone else have a "weird affinity pony"? Like for me I'm just drawn to Sew-and-So. I love the colour orange but I'm indifferent to Sew-and-So design-wise. But I'm SO attracted to her. Another one is Summer Bloom. She's a very plain, kind of boring pony, but there's Just Something About Her. My taste in ponies is otherwise predictable, I know what I like (yellow ponies with bright green in their hair, please!! I LOVE Guava Lava), so Sew-and-So and Summer Bloom are just. Weird.

Also Muse and Romperooni are some of my favourites. Purple and orange look really good on a pony! I can't think of a lot of ponies that are purple with orange hair. Probably because whoever's designing ponies are more gravitated towards saturated colours? Which admittedly orange on purple look kind of bad, unless you're designing something for Halloween. If you desaturate them, I love it!! It reminds me of a really late summer sunset or something.

I like the second set of G1 rainbow ponies better than the first set, and Confetti is on the top of my most wanted list. Pink/yellow/green/blue is common on ponies, but orange/pink/yellow/blue is unique. The body colours and symbols are unique too. The only rainbow pony I got out of the repros was Moonstone because I don't have much interest in the others, but I'd be more inclined to buy them all if they released this set instead ;)

A weird affinity pony? Like a pony you army build? Or one you wouldn't normally go after otherwise?

I don't army build.

But thosefrom each gen that I wouldn't go after otherwise and absolutely adore are:

G1
Earth: Sunsplasher. I'm not a big fan of orange and I think the smiling suns look tacky on other ponies, plus I'm not too into SHS. But I MUST HAVE her someday. She's a grail of mine.

Pegasus: Sea Breeze. Orange, with three shades of hair that shouldn't work and would normally be npleasant to my eyes. But I'm in love with her and think she's stunning. I'm looking for her right now actually.

Unicorn: Skyflier, peach and radioactive red do not sound like an attractive color combo. But she's very cute and underrated, especially in hand.

Merpony: Baby Pearly. She's generic, boring and all pink and I'm not sure about that face. But she has a WHALE symbol. I love whales! If only she weren't so expensive. :(

G2:
Lady Waterfall. Her joints absolutely ruin her! But she's so lovely I think I could overlook that.

G3:

Earth: Blushie. She's generically colored, she has a really dumb name. Her symbol is flowers and she screams booring. It was love at first sight. She's so very pretty. I love her pose and her harmonious color scheme and her 3d flowers with its little, real ribbon. She was a gift from my aunt and even more special to me.

Pegasus: Snow'El. Her name is dumb, her symbol is childish, her colors generic and yet I think she is positively elegant. Man
I would love to have her, but it is so unlikely.

Unicorn: Valentine Sweetie Belle. She is so lovely.  I love her hearts and arrows and how her mane blends from pink to various shades of purples. She was my first G3 Unicorn. DD was gonna chuck her in the charity bag. I rescued her.

Breezie: Zippy Zinnia. Breezies have awful faces and I no likey their antennas. But white/green/pink is so pretty and springtime.

G4:
Earth Pony: Pursey Pink. She's cute. That's all I hafta say.

Pegasus: Water Cutie Blossomforth. I hate that the one wave of water cuties didnt match the rest and they have oversized, gawky wings. But I would like to have her because she reminds me of Baby Dipper and Zippy Zinnia in her color scheme.

Trixie Lulamoon: Her character is annoying. I can't stand people who speak in 3rd person constantly. But she sure is pretty.

Unipeg: Baby Flurryheart. Generic color scheme and looks like a severely deformed piglet/human baby hybrid. She's awfully cute though. I'd like to find a fakie baby Unipeg with a proper horse face and make a custom.

Merpony: Baby Ocean Gem. She's a bit bland colorwise, but oh-so-cute. I MUST have her!









Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on September 11, 2018, 06:36:08 PM
I love white ponies, or at least light color with dark hair, so Waterfire is a bizarre favorite for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on September 13, 2018, 03:33:29 PM
I also find Trixie constantly talking in 3rd person annoying.   ;). I don’t like the FIM episode “Slice of Life” I think Peek a Boo babies are cute. I don’t think Hasbro should have advertised Sundae Best ponies as “ponies smell like ice cream” when they don’t.  I thought Banana Surprise’s symbol was a banana split. Why does Baby Noddings have a bunny symbol? I get. Cherry Treats and Merry Treats confused sometimes when I read their names. :lol:

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on September 13, 2018, 04:22:06 PM
I don’t like the FIM episode “Slice of Life”
Ponyfan

A very pandery episode. Maybe it could've worked if they weren't three years late with some of the references... and a lot of people found the Gummy part funny but to me it was kind of... tryhard? Like, "How do you do fellow kids? Existential crises are cool, right? We're hip. We're funny. Be sure to gif this and put it on social media. 'Top Ten Moments When MLP Got Too Real', amirite?"
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 14, 2018, 03:32:43 AM
Why does Baby Noddings have a bunny symbol?

Ponyfan

Good question. I got nothing.

I don't like the Sundae Best as a set in general. I try to love all G1 ponies, but the reworked poses are awkward, the colours are largely insipid and the perfumes are noxious. Three strikes and all out. Though it doesn't help that at one point years back I had so many doubles of Banana and Sorbet in my trade box that I had to give them away to get rid of the smell...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on September 14, 2018, 03:52:16 AM
I thought (on here at least) that not liking "Slice of Life" was the popular opinion - I was actually toying with saying I liked it on here as an unpopular opinion, along with the fact that I actually didn't find it too pandering, even though I get why people feel that it is.

I guess the reason I feel this way is because, they focused on ponies that meant something to me personally (one of them meant something to a friend, which by extension meant something to me because of him), and I'd basically distanced myself from brony memes, so the fact that a lot of the ponies they used were the bony-popular ones (maybe they all were?  I don't know) wasn't at the forefront of my mind.  Also, I think the fact that the references were late was because they were referencing the whole thing, if that makes sense, but yeah - didn't look like pandering to me, but I get why people see it that way, and like I say, it was probably my state of mind at the time.

It wasn't perfect, and the Gummy part wasn't needed (it just seemed too random, and yeah... like they were trying to create another meme or something) and giving the Big Lebowski ponies more screen time and actual line over explained what was originally a quick background joke to me - they didn't need to give them that much exposure.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on September 14, 2018, 04:01:48 AM
Scented ponies give me a headache, only one that doesn't is strawberry.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on September 14, 2018, 06:35:15 AM
Liking Slice of Life is unpopular? Then I guess I have an unpopular opinion because I enjoyed it. I have a soft spot for stories about background/other characters.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on September 14, 2018, 06:56:19 AM
Quote
Does anyone else have a "weird affinity pony"? Like for me I'm just drawn to Sew-and-So. I love the colour orange but I'm indifferent to Sew-and-So design-wise.

I think mine is Cotton Candy.   I generally don't care for ponies with pink bodies.  Hair is ok, but pink bodies can be so over the top and she is way over the top.  But she's become so familiar to me, that I can't help but love her like she's a part of the family.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 14, 2018, 07:16:25 AM
I liked most of Slice of Life.  (Some of it did feel a bit pandery, but eh.)  It was nice having focus off the Mane Six.

I don't like the Sundae Best ponies or, really, any ponies with 3-D symbols.  Except maybe the Merry Go Round ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on September 14, 2018, 07:31:16 AM
I don't like the Sundae Best ponies or, really, any ponies with 3-D symbols.  Except maybe the Merry Go Round ponies.

MGR make sense because real carousel horses generally have 3D saddle/etc.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 14, 2018, 09:17:46 AM
I love carousel animals and to this day, I still argue over whatever one I've picked to ride with other people. Yet I find it ironic, that the one MGR Pony that most resembles a Classic Carousel Horse, is the one I find the least interesting.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on September 17, 2018, 07:16:38 AM
I don’t like the FIM episode “Slice of Life”
Ponyfan

A very pandery episode. Maybe it could've worked if they weren't three years late with some of the references... and a lot of people found the Gummy part funny but to me it was kind of... tryhard? Like, "How do you do fellow kids? Existential crises are cool, right? We're hip. We're funny. Be sure to gif this and put it on social media. 'Top Ten Moments When MLP Got Too Real', amirite?"
honestly the concept was already weak because we dont know the characters we have no reason to care about them if they wanted an episode about secondary characters instead that could work because we already know zecora,the cmc,the apple family but we know nothing about the main characters in the episode except on forums that kids should never be on
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on September 17, 2018, 08:05:53 AM
I don’t like the FIM episode “Slice of Life”
Ponyfan

A very pandery episode. Maybe it could've worked if they weren't three years late with some of the references... and a lot of people found the Gummy part funny but to me it was kind of... tryhard? Like, "How do you do fellow kids? Existential crises are cool, right? We're hip. We're funny. Be sure to gif this and put it on social media. 'Top Ten Moments When MLP Got Too Real', amirite?"
honestly the concept was already weak because we dont know the characters we have no reason to care about them if they wanted an episode about secondary characters instead that could work because we already know zecora,the cmc,the apple family but we know nothing about the main characters in the episode except on forums that kids should never be on

I only liked this episode character :muffin:,  the thing with humans with horse's heads on freaked me out.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 17, 2018, 08:13:44 AM
FiM-pinion: I would have loved to see Cheerilee become more prominent in the show. I know she isn't important to many, but I'd feel like she would have been a wonderful recurring character to help Twilight and just hang out.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on September 17, 2018, 08:15:59 AM
FiM-pinion: I would have loved to see Cheerilee become more prominent in the show. I know she isn't important to many, but I'd feel like she would have been a wonderful recurring character to help Twilight and just hang out.

This I totally agree with
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on September 19, 2018, 11:09:32 AM
honestly the concept was already weak because we dont know the characters we have no reason to care about them if they wanted an episode about secondary characters instead that could work because we already know zecora,the cmc,the apple family but we know nothing about the main characters in the episode except on forums that kids should never be on
To be fair, it is possible for kids to be interested in the background ponies - they might just like how they look and be curious about them.

I'm speaking for myself, but I actually remember being interested in the background characters of two things when I was a kid (one television show, one game.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 19, 2018, 01:34:37 PM
I was (and remain) the kid who likes the background characters.

I think its because main characters are overexposed and there's too much concrete in their background. And I like to think out things and draw my own conclusions. Supporting characters often allow for that.

But that said, I did like as a kid when my childhood ponies appeared in the comic. So I guess I see the appeal of having the ponies on screen, too...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 19, 2018, 09:14:46 PM
I kind of like the Flip and Flows, now that I have one on hand. Its annoying that they are on the hideous reboot poses, and are only three characters who I'd rather never see again instead of actual merpony characters. Ah well, I bought her for custom bait anyway. If Hasbroken can't make new figures or new characters, I can certainly try to. Shame there's no Fluttershy in this set. I coulda made Flip and Flow Haven Bay.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 20, 2018, 07:35:12 AM
I like the Mimic/Bangles/Milky Way pose.

And I always did, going back to when I was a kid. :) I always felt Milky Way was looking up to the sky to see the stars with that pose :D

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 01, 2018, 11:07:13 AM
I think Spring Parade is pretty cute. Wish there were more ponies with orange/light green/yellow instead of the usual orange/purple/pink.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on October 01, 2018, 12:41:13 PM
I think Spring Parade is pretty cute. Wish there were more ponies with orange/light green/yellow instead of the usual orange/purple/pink.

I like her too! The colors work well together!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on October 01, 2018, 01:19:41 PM
Unpopular opinion: I like the G3.5 toys. The show was atrocious, but I think the toys are cute in their own way. Even how heavy they feel is kinda nice. I just wish they did more characters, honestly.

I like them too.   And... while the show's writing was obviously for an audience of babies,  I did think the animated ponies themselves were cute.   :blush:    I also didn't mind that it was written for babies.  It was what it was.  And it was cute thinking of toddlers getting into My Little Pony.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on October 01, 2018, 01:49:51 PM
I much prefer the current open world of FiM to the isolated early seasons Equestria where ponies soiled their panties when they saw a stranger in their village.

G4 unicorns doing everything with magic will never not bother me. Open the door like everybody else, you overpowered lot! :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on October 01, 2018, 02:15:59 PM
Unpopular opinion: I like the G3.5 toys. The show was atrocious, but I think the toys are cute in their own way. Even how heavy they feel is kinda nice. I just wish they did more characters, honestly.

Same here, I have most of them, they are quite cute to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: hyenacub on October 01, 2018, 02:49:27 PM
Now the G3.5 ponies, I can't stand.  That's one gen I won't ever care for much lol
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on October 01, 2018, 02:53:37 PM
I think the G3.5 ponies are adorable! Cute little chibi ponies! They're only my least favorite generation because it's all Core 7. Not as fun to collect when there's an entire 10 characters (the Core 7 + three moms). I really wish we'd have gotten more G3 ponies in the G3.5 style besides them. :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on October 01, 2018, 03:27:57 PM
Speaking of Newborn Cuties I have to mention this animated Newborn Cuties short.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A7jzFwtikSI

It’s really funny when you realize in Runaway Rainbow the ponies didn’t know about Unicornia yet but here they mention that everyone knows where unicorns come from.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: hyenacub on October 01, 2018, 03:29:32 PM
I get why some  people like them so much.  But definitely not my think.  I'm not a huge chibi-style fan, so that might have something to do with it!

Newborn Cutuies...meh they're okay.  I like them better than the adults
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on October 01, 2018, 03:41:39 PM
Honestly I think the lack of characters is the biggest turn-off of G3.5, to me. I'm not a fan of the style to begin with, but if there were more characters I'm sure I would've been converted eventually ;) that's how G4.5 got me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leikin on October 02, 2018, 04:45:10 AM
I dont really get why so many people seem to love Gusty? I think she is rather boring. Ok, the red strike in her hair is nice, but the dark green is so dull.  The other unicorns from that set is so much prettier imo, but still, hasbro choosed Gusty to make several variants of... :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 02, 2018, 10:29:36 AM
I dont really get why so many people seem to love Gusty? I think she is rather boring. Ok, the red strike in her hair is nice, but the dark green is so dull.  The other unicorns from that set is so much prettier imo, but still, hasbro choosed Gusty to make several variants of... :P

I don't dislike Gusty, but I was gutted when I realised we may have come super close to having Ribbon instead ;) I really love Ribbon. I'd have loved her as a kid. I don't hate Gusty, and I grew up with her in the sense a friend of mine had her and I now have that pony, so I have a nostalgic fondness for her. She was also pushed down our throats in the comics as well. So I can't dislike her. But I'm just kind of...give me Ribbon. Seriously.

I like the glittery symbol Gusty better than the UK one. Which might seem an impossible opinion from me but it's true. I really want a Fable Gusty because I feel like she's the perfect Gusty and the one we didn't get.

But if it's a choice. Give me Ribbon. Anyday.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on October 02, 2018, 01:30:35 PM
I dont really get why so many people seem to love Gusty? I think she is rather boring. Ok, the red strike in her hair is nice, but the dark green is so dull.  The other unicorns from that set is so much prettier imo, but still, hasbro choosed Gusty to make several variants of... :P

I don't dislike Gusty, but I was gutted when I realised we may have come super close to having Ribbon instead ;) I really love Ribbon. I'd have loved her as a kid. I don't hate Gusty, and I grew up with her in the sense a friend of mine had her and I now have that pony, so I have a nostalgic fondness for her. She was also pushed down our throats in the comics as well. So I can't dislike her. But I'm just kind of...give me Ribbon. Seriously.

I like the glittery symbol Gusty better than the UK one. Which might seem an impossible opinion from me but it's true. I really want a Fable Gusty because I feel like she's the perfect Gusty and the one we didn't get.

But if it's a choice. Give me Ribbon. Anyday.

Imagine if Ribbon had been available in the UK in Gusty's pose  :lovey:
I would probably have about ten. Gusty is nice, one of my favourites, but RIBBON *grabby hands*

Unpopular opinion: I'm not that bothered about MLP having a cartoon to go with it, in fact I would prefer if it didn't. A generation that was just ponies and merchandise (like G2) or mostly ponies and merchandise with a cartoon that isn't really important (like G1) would be ideal at this point. I am just done with it being All About The Show, and this whole "the Mane 6 must always be for sale because of people just getting into The Show". I just want pony toys!! The show is fun (sometimes; when it's not moralising boringly), but it dominates too much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on October 02, 2018, 02:01:01 PM
I'm with you on this one, Shaz :) It was alright when the cartoon was just a secondary thing and the main focus was still on the toys, but FiM has just taken over tooooo much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 02, 2018, 02:02:12 PM
I like Ribbon pretty good in Ribbon's pose. But I never thought about one in Gusty's. O.O. Someone make that happen, please O.O.

Ribbon deflocked matches Baby Ribbon really well, incidentally. She'd have been the perfect addition. She didn't need a glitter symbol because Ribbon never had one. So Ribbon! Ribbon, Hasbro! Get yourselves sorted out!

I also agree about the TV show. I am fine with there being one, but I don't like when the show > the toy line. I had 4 episodes of MLP as a kid on VHS. I watched them loads but I wasn't really invested in them as dictating my world view of ponies. Even the comics, which I read more and remember pretty well, didn't dictate how I played ponies. I loved that moment of personal imagination...I always kept their names, but I made my own stories and I think that's what ponies should be about. :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sky_Rocket_Sammie on October 02, 2018, 06:54:05 PM
Never been a fan of the so soft gimmick even as a kid. In fact, I remember buying Wind Whistler, who became my favorite pony. Growing annoyed that under all that fuzzy fuzziness must be a really awesomely colored pony. Only to find there was no easy way to remove it, oddly enough I loved fuzzy stickers just not on my ponies.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on October 02, 2018, 08:36:40 PM
I didn't like the SS gimmick but I settled for SS Paradise and suddenly loved the gimmick when it's nearly mint.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leikin on October 03, 2018, 06:28:15 AM
I dont really get why so many people seem to love Gusty? I think she is rather boring. Ok, the red strike in her hair is nice, but the dark green is so dull.  The other unicorns from that set is so much prettier imo, but still, hasbro choosed Gusty to make several variants of... :P

I don't dislike Gusty, but I was gutted when I realised we may have come super close to having Ribbon instead ;) I really love Ribbon. I'd have loved her as a kid. I don't hate Gusty, and I grew up with her in the sense a friend of mine had her and I now have that pony, so I have a nostalgic fondness for her. She was also pushed down our throats in the comics as well. So I can't dislike her. But I'm just kind of...give me Ribbon. Seriously.

I like the glittery symbol Gusty better than the UK one. Which might seem an impossible opinion from me but it's true. I really want a Fable Gusty because I feel like she's the perfect Gusty and the one we didn't get.

But if it's a choice. Give me Ribbon. Anyday.

Imagine if Ribbon had been available in the UK in Gusty's pose  :lovey:
I would probably have about ten. Gusty is nice, one of my favourites, but RIBBON *grabby hands*

I dont hate Gusty either :P but cannot really relate to her popularity. She seems to be one of the most popular ponies to collect variants of. She is nice, but yeah, there are far more prettier ponies then her, imo ^^
And yes, I would definately have prefered Ribbon instead of Gusty in that set. Her colours are lovely! But I'm glad she made it as a baby at least ^^

Agreed about the cartoon as well. I loved the mlp G1 episodes, but it never bothered me that I was not able to get that exact pony, or that all ponies didnt reappear in the episodes. For me, I guess it was like, well, ponyland is full of ponies, and this episode just happens to be about these particular ponies, while other episodes featured what adventures other ponies did. It didnt have to be the same ponies on every single adventure, but different adventures happened to different ponies, just like in real life.
But I guess the market today is different, you have to franschise yourself to stand out from the tons of different toys out there. but for me? Nah. I want diversity. Even though Im a variation collector, I dont need 362 different versions of Pinkie Pie...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cloud Dreamer on October 03, 2018, 01:26:38 PM
I just don't see the big deal about Gusty either! She seems very plain to me and while I love the idea of a grumpy pony, I dislike her voice.  I am also a Ribbon lover. She would probably be my second favorite if Cloud Dreamer didn't exist. (Bouquet would then be my first favorite.) Ribbon has such unique colors and now I also really want to see her in the Gusty pose  :lovey:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on October 03, 2018, 01:42:13 PM
I love ponies with abstract or geometric symbols!! Rockin' Beats (ESPECIALLY Half Note), Silly Sunshine, Dabble/Scribbles, Winterberry, Sunny Salsa...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on October 04, 2018, 07:37:11 AM
I dislike her voice. 

Ay, caramba!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 04, 2018, 07:48:54 AM
I dislike her voice. 

Ay, caramba!

Don't have a cow man.

:snicker:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on October 04, 2018, 10:40:23 AM
As a kid, I felt disappointed after watching the MLP cartoons, I really wanted to enjoy them, but I hated the squeaky voices.

Contrast that to the wonderful She-Ra, Jem etc.

Just my opinion!  :bolt:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 04, 2018, 12:27:43 PM
As a kid, I felt disappointed after watching the MLP cartoons, I really wanted to enjoy them, but I hated the squeaky voices.

Contrast that to the wonderful She-Ra, Jem etc.

Just my opinion!  :bolt:

I actually think SheRa is more annoying in the voice department. 99% of which is just Catra. Meowww....

Jem has a stellar cast though you do realise that a lot of the people on Jem were also on MLP?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on October 05, 2018, 11:18:07 AM
As a kid, I felt disappointed after watching the MLP cartoons, I really wanted to enjoy them, but I hated the squeaky voices.

Contrast that to the wonderful She-Ra, Jem etc.

Just my opinion!  :bolt:

I actually think SheRa is more annoying in the voice department. 99% of which is just Catra. Meowww....

Jem has a stellar cast though you do realise that a lot of the people on Jem were also on MLP?


Riiiiawww-miaaw-wrrrr !!! Actually, you have a point, that was one screechingly annoying character!

I think the Jem voices suited the human characters better than the MLP voices suited the ponies  :lol: well, just my humble opinion.

I wonder what the MLP cartoon would have sounded like if UK actors had voiced the ponies? I know it would never have happened due to cost, but it would have been interesting. Perhaps I was too used to reading the comics and their stories in my English accent!  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 05, 2018, 11:51:12 AM
Probably like the spoken word stories or the My Little Pony Song tape.

"My Little Ponies live at the edge of the Rainbow Forest. Theirs is a magical world where every day brings a new adventure..."

Etc.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on October 05, 2018, 12:25:50 PM
Probably like the spoken word stories or the My Little Pony Song tape.

"My Little Ponies live at the edge of the Rainbow Forest. Theirs is a magical world where every day brings a new adventure..."

Etc.

I have never heard them! Something for me to investigate...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 06, 2018, 07:44:27 AM
I don't like most of the black or red G3 Ponies. The designs as a whole just don't appeal to me. Don't like the red G4 ponies either.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 07, 2018, 04:23:56 AM
Probably like the spoken word stories or the My Little Pony Song tape.

"My Little Ponies live at the edge of the Rainbow Forest. Theirs is a magical world where every day brings a new adventure..."

Etc.

I have never heard them! Something for me to investigate...

LM has the song tape on Youtube. I don't know about the stories/spoken word. I have them on CD thanks to my Dad. I don't know where I've put the CDs though...I had thought of putting some of them up but currently can't find them. Yay me. :) I don't know if there are others on youtube...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on October 07, 2018, 04:59:16 AM
Probably like the spoken word stories or the My Little Pony Song tape.

"My Little Ponies live at the edge of the Rainbow Forest. Theirs is a magical world where every day brings a new adventure..."

Etc.

I have never heard them! Something for me to investigate...

LM has the song tape on Youtube. I don't know about the stories/spoken word. I have them on CD thanks to my Dad. I don't know where I've put the CDs though...I had thought of putting some of them up but currently can't find them. Yay me. :) I don't know if there are others on youtube...

Ta for letting me know!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on October 07, 2018, 07:16:43 PM
Probably like the spoken word stories or the My Little Pony Song tape.

"My Little Ponies live at the edge of the Rainbow Forest. Theirs is a magical world where every day brings a new adventure..."

Etc.

I have never heard them! Something for me to investigate...

LM has the song tape on Youtube. I don't know about the stories/spoken word. I have them on CD thanks to my Dad. I don't know where I've put the CDs though...I had thought of putting some of them up but currently can't find them. Yay me. :) I don't know if there are others on youtube...



Here's the link to the songs on LadyMoondancer's YouTube channel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4cyTCvrjhg&list=PL45BCE07F7DFDF24C



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 20, 2018, 03:01:49 PM
Rarity is impo, the dullest of the pearlescent merponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on October 20, 2018, 03:29:28 PM
Rarity is impo, the dullest of the pearlescent merponies.

She the only pearly Mane 6 seapony I don’t own. Maybe it’s the plastic Hasbro used for her or the glitter?

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 20, 2018, 04:22:08 PM
Rarity is impo, the dullest of the pearlescent merponies.

She the only pearly Mane 6 seapony I don’t own. Maybe it’s the plastic Hasbro used for her or the glitter?

Ponyfan

 Maybe. She was in my hands for a brief time, as I had bought her for a trade and she literally looked very dull and less pearly then the others. Plus she just seems pretty plain.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Avasponies on December 20, 2018, 06:11:50 PM
It drives me crazy how the FIM cartoon ponies have like hair styles instead of regular manes, but then the toys mostly just have regular manes making them look even less like the characters!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 21, 2018, 01:24:42 PM
It drives me crazy how the FIM cartoon ponies have like hair styles instead of regular manes, but then the toys mostly just have regular manes making them look even less like the characters!!!

On the complete opposite position from this, actually. As a G1 person from a world where the toys dictate all, it annoys me that the show ponies have silly hairstyles that aren't reflecting their toyselves accurately. Although I don't watch the regular cartoon, I did notice in one of the EQG episodes that Sunset Shimmer when she turned back pony had really ugly hair...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 21, 2018, 01:37:46 PM
It drives me crazy how the FIM cartoon ponies have like hair styles instead of regular manes, but then the toys mostly just have regular manes making them look even less like the characters!!!

Nothing stopping you from styling them yourself.  ^.^ Some people do. That's part of the whole play experience. That's what brushable horses and dolls are for.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Avasponies on December 21, 2018, 06:19:08 PM
It drives me crazy how the FIM cartoon ponies have like hair styles instead of regular manes, but then the toys mostly just have regular manes making them look even less like the characters!!!

Nothing stopping you from styling them yourself.  ^.^ Some people do. That's part of the whole play experience. That's what brushable horses and dolls are for.
I have actually rehaired/added hair and cut/styled it on a few of them!

Post Merge: December 21, 2018, 06:23:41 PM

It drives me crazy how the FIM cartoon ponies have like hair styles instead of regular manes, but then the toys mostly just have regular manes making them look even less like the characters!!!

On the complete opposite position from this, actually. As a G1 person from a world where the toys dictate all, it annoys me that the show ponies have silly hairstyles that aren't reflecting their toyselves accurately. Although I don't watch the regular cartoon, I did notice in one of the EQG episodes that Sunset Shimmer when she turned back pony had really ugly hair...
Actually I'm with you lol I wish the FIM cartoon ponies had more regular manes that matched the current toys and all the other generations' toons and toys!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Annichen on December 30, 2018, 10:02:42 AM
All other ponies than G1 are ugly...*hearing a horde of fans coming at me The Shining axe style*
I can deal with G3 too but only G1 have my love   :lookround:

Post Merge: December 30, 2018, 10:05:40 AM

As a kid, I felt disappointed after watching the MLP cartoons, I really wanted to enjoy them, but I hated the squeaky voices.

Contrast that to the wonderful She-Ra, Jem etc.

Just my opinion!  :bolt:

I actually think SheRa is more annoying in the voice department. 99% of which is just Catra. Meowww....

Jem has a stellar cast though you do realise that a lot of the people on Jem were also on MLP?


Yes, me too ! I looooove She-ra toys and the look but the voices in them cartoons, oh boy..that's just annoyingly bad. Still watch them though and as a kid it didn't bother me at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kerry483 on January 12, 2019, 12:20:10 PM
Maan only like 5 pages in, and I'm definitely gonna be rehashing a lot of other peoples stuff haha.

I love the eyelash ponies, they are just so cute. Even though when they are unruley they look like they have giant caterpillar eyebrows, I adore them. I only have one, but I will get more eventually.

G2's are probably my fave gen. I have specific ponies I love from g3 and g1, but I just love the goofy goofy g2's.

I like tinsel, so long as it's not too unruley. It can be tamed usually.

I really like bbe ponies. I saw a tutorial for modding them into normal babies and I felt like crying a lil tbh. Like you can de-rust them, and sell them off.



Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on January 12, 2019, 02:20:54 PM
Probably not that unpopular, but I am so bummed that we don't have the anniversary ponies here. :( How cool would it be to buy a pony from a toy store again?

Along the same line, sort of: I really wish I liked the HQG1 ponies, because it's so exciting to see new G1 designs! But in reality I only like three or four of them, the others just don't give me that pony feeling, mostly because of the colour schemes I guess. I have a lot of respect for all the work people are doing with these, and it's a fantastic project, but unfortunately it's not for me. :(

All other ponies than G1 are ugly...*hearing a horde of fans coming at me The Shining axe style*
I can deal with G3 too but only G1 have my love   :lookround:

No axe here, I'm just glad to hear someone else saying it for once. :P Other generations aren't even ponies to me, I'm really sorry. :lookround:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 12, 2019, 02:51:43 PM
I personally don't hate any generation but I also don't care if other people do. I'm a G1 person but I have some of each. I like that there are enough ponies to go around for everyone's taste. :)

I still don't like FIM though. While I think most of it is benign and largely superficial, there are a few disturbing things which seem to promote colonial attitudes and cruelty to animals. And even EQG, which I do like, does at one point try and make out like a popularity contest is a good thing and choosing people for their skills is a bad thing...

Anyways.

My unpopular opinion. I don't want there to be a G5.

At least, if there is one,  I don't want it to be for a good long time into the future. Maybe 5 years from now. When there's been a chance for a complete start over, and not just more remaking of the remake. I think G5 right now with the mane 6 template is the death of MLP.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 13, 2019, 01:59:27 PM
I personally don't hate any generation but I also don't care if other people do. I'm a G1 person but I have some of each. I like that there are enough ponies to go around for everyone's taste. :)

I still don't like FIM though. While I think most of it is benign and largely superficial, there are a few disturbing things which seem to promote colonial attitudes and cruelty to animals. And even EQG, which I do like, does at one point try and make out like a popularity contest is a good thing and choosing people for their skills is a bad thing...

Anyways.

My unpopular opinion. I don't want there to be a G5.

At least, if there is one,  I don't want it to be for a good long time into the future. Maybe 5 years from now. When there's been a chance for a complete start over, and not just more remaking of the remake. I think G5 right now with the mane 6 template is the death of MLP.

It may well be.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pony.Backpack on January 13, 2019, 03:49:06 PM
Unpopular Opinion: I am a G1 collector who LOVES FIM, the show, the movie, the toyline, I love it all! I actually just finished the newest season on Netflix like 20 mins ago  :blush: Let me be clear though, I LOVE G4 molds but I'm not a fan of G4.5 (Except I hate G4 wings and love how they're being molded in 4.5)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 14, 2019, 07:39:25 AM
I'm kinda dreading G5. If its going to be more of the same, why bother?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 14, 2019, 07:59:08 AM
I'm kinda dreading G5. If its going to be more of the same, why bother?

Agreed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: DrEsmeRose on January 14, 2019, 08:48:37 AM
I'm not a big fan of the So Softs, not because of the texture, but because of how horribly they aged.

I also never really liked the Twinkle Eye ponies because they lacked life somehow, and I also never got to watch much of the show, so I didn't understand them well.

I always played with Gingerbread Pose ponies as if they were males.

I am not a big fan of the newborn pose, I prefer the teeny tiny pose.

I love the moving, rolling necked babies.

I think the diaper ponies are adorable!

Give me all the bushwoolies!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kerry483 on January 15, 2019, 01:23:10 AM
Are they going with a soft reboot and keeping it in a similar style to not get the fandom mad?

Like was that the reasoning they gave?

Because I bloody well hope not.

Let it finish. Let it die, give it a good ending, then give it a few years wait and really change the style as you always do :/

I do love the g4 art style in the animation esp (really not a fan of the g4.5 molds, the open unpainted mouths are so creepy, if they had paint maybe they'd be better? but even then they are still *shudder*)

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on January 15, 2019, 06:12:57 AM
I also want G5 to be a separate thing from G4. I enjoy G4, although G1 will always be my first pony love but to me if they are going with the same characters that's not a true reboot because we'll still have the same basic characters just with some of types of ponies switched. I don't want to see the adventures of Fluttershy the unicorn and Twilight Sparkle the Earth pony.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 15, 2019, 06:44:42 AM
Well, on the bright side, if G5 is just G4 rebooted then at least I can focus on finishing my other gens.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on January 15, 2019, 07:34:39 AM
I'm kinda dreading G5. If its going to be more of the same, why bother?

I dont have my hopes up at this point.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 15, 2019, 04:34:00 PM
Are they going with a soft reboot and keeping it in a similar style to not get the fandom mad?



I'm not sure that's been said at all, because I think nothing official has been said anyway, just leaks and stuff. But they didn't care about making the previous three generations of fans mad. Honestly, I think it's just trying to piggyback on something that was accidentally really successful. Trying to follow that with something equally successful that can maintain all the lucrative franchise contracts as well as capture an enduring toy section of the market is going to be hard. I think they might be playing it safe. But for me if the mane 6 are in it, it's still G4.  Just like SHS are still G1, and 7 characters/tales stuff is still G1. It has to be a new core cast with a significant amount of change in setting, characters, toys etc to be a whole new generation, rather than a subset. Otherwise we're saying that Equestria Girls, which changes the SPECIES of the main characters is G4 but another equine iteration of the mane 6 is somehow G5? And that doesn't make any sense...

So yeah, to go back on topic, unpopular opinion remains keeping alive characters that are beyond dead on the store shelves where I live at least...in the hope of piggybacking some of that lost momentum and glory of a few years back...is not what MLP means to me. And that is entirely without undermining the validity of G4, its fandom, or its existence. I just want something new. And I think, judging from how NOTHING mane 6 is selling here at all...so do the kids.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on January 17, 2019, 07:25:20 AM
I believe that even with all its animation errors, the original G1 cartoon still looked way better than the new flash series.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on January 17, 2019, 07:29:24 AM
I believe that even with all its animation errors, the original G1 cartoon still looked way better than the new flash series.

honestly, same here... I don't want to rag on FiM or anything (I know it's a Flash thing rather than anything specific to FiM, I have the same problem w/ Lion Guard), but man the walk cycles look so stiff! The G1 animation isn't perfect, sure, but it has some life to it, I like that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ThePoneZone on January 17, 2019, 07:38:19 AM
I believe that even with all its animation errors, the original G1 cartoon still looked way better than the new flash series.
I know I'm in the minority when I say this, but man, I think even G3's animation was just a smidge better. At least their hair moved around when they were in motion and didn't just wave around like wet cardboard, but, I'm also just heavily biased against flash and cheap looking flash-style anyway.

I mean, I love junk like Homestar Runner, but I wouldn't want to be paying to watch it on TV. When Arthur switched to flash, I couldn't watch it anymore because it's so stiff and flat looking now. It's just a bit depressing to see animation kinda... devolving? as time goes on. I never knew how much I'd miss looking at beautifully detailed backgrounds until everything went to Flash/Toonboom and 3D. I know cartoons aren't made for my age range anymore, and money's a bigger issue now, but it still just.. hurts.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on January 17, 2019, 08:05:41 AM
honestly, same here... I don't want to rag on FiM or anything (I know it's a Flash thing rather than anything specific to FiM, I have the same problem w/ Lion Guard), but man the walk cycles look so stiff! The G1 animation isn't perfect, sure, but it has some life to it, I like that.

What really struck me in the few episodes of the new cartoon that I did watch was how much it recycled literally everything, with the same building pasted in different parts of the screen, or different ponies using the exact same walking cycle, or how overall each character was the same base with different colors and details like out of some video game character creator etc.

I know I'm in the minority when I say this, but man, I think even G3's animation was better. At least their hair moved around when they were in motion and didn't just wave around like wet cardboard.

To be honest, I never had any problems with G3 animation, maybe except for the very latest installments of it when Hasbro already decided to switch to Flash.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 17, 2019, 09:48:51 AM
I believe that even with all its animation errors, the original G1 cartoon still looked way better than the new flash series.

It totally does.
I believe that even with all its animation errors, the original G1 cartoon still looked way better than the new flash series.
I know I'm in the minority when I say this, but man, I think even G3's animation was just a smidge better. At least their hair moved around when they were in motion and didn't just wave around like wet cardboard, but, I'm also just heavily biased against flash and cheap looking flash-style anyway.

I mean, I love junk like Homestar Runner, but I wouldn't want to be paying to watch it on TV. When Arthur switched to flash, I couldn't watch it anymore because it's so stiff and flat looking now. It's just a bit depressing to see animation kinda... devolving? as time goes on. I never knew how much I'd miss looking at beautifully detailed backgrounds until everything went to Flash/Toonboom and 3D. I know cartoons aren't made for my age range anymore, and money's a bigger issue now, but it still just.. hurts.

So am I. Can't stand flash. G3's animation is nice to look at, if a little oversaturated. A pity the toon itself is rather bland.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ThePoneZone on January 17, 2019, 10:19:34 AM
So am I. Can't stand flash. G3's animation is nice to look at, if a little oversaturated. A pity the toon itself is rather bland.
Even as someone who adores G3's style, I can agree. I watch them much less often than the G1 toons. They're cute, but there's not much substance beyond that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 17, 2019, 11:53:16 AM
I love tinsel to death, I don't seem to have a big issue with it and it always cooperates for me.
That said, I don't care for the princess ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 19, 2019, 08:58:43 AM
I hate the way Hasbro names stuff. Every name these days have to be these overly-cutesy compound words slapped together in hopes that it might sound good. I've seen it on some of their LPS toys and its immediately become an obnoxious trend in their Botbots.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on January 19, 2019, 09:33:17 AM
I don't like Truly and Buttons.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 19, 2019, 09:50:37 AM
 :huh:
I don't like Truly and Buttons.

I'm not fond of Truly either.

Btw, is your avatar the new way of counting sheep? :P I'm pretty sure all those little hooves will knock a person out pretty quick, what with the oncoming concussion and all. XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on January 19, 2019, 10:07:11 AM
I hate the way Hasbro names stuff. Every name these days have to be these overly-cutesy compound words slapped together in hopes that it might sound good. I've seen it on some of their LPS toys and its immediately become an obnoxious trend in their Botbots.


I've noticed that too espeically with Daring Do's toy being offically named Daring Do Dazzle and Mrs Dazzle Cake.

Sometimes I think Habsbro must pull names out of a hat for their characters. :lol:



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 19, 2019, 10:53:07 AM
I hate the way Hasbro names stuff. Every name these days have to be these overly-cutesy compound words slapped together in hopes that it might sound good. I've seen it on some of their LPS toys and its immediately become an obnoxious trend in their Botbots.


I've noticed that too espeically with Daring Do's toy being offically named Daring Do Dazzle and Mrs Dazzle Cake.

Sometimes I think Habsbro must pull names out of a hat for their characters. :lol:



Ponyfan

That's a nicer term then what I'd use for where they're pulling names from.  :devious:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on January 19, 2019, 12:14:14 PM
Btw, is your avatar the new way of counting sheep? :P I'm pretty sure all those little hooves will knock a person out pretty quick, what with the oncoming concussion and all. XD
I like looping things.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 20, 2019, 05:15:39 AM
I hate the way Hasbro names stuff. Every name these days have to be these overly-cutesy compound words slapped together in hopes that it might sound good. I've seen it on some of their LPS toys and its immediately become an obnoxious trend in their Botbots.

Oh, this all day long. I think it's to do with laziness over language, so you have meaningless names in multiple languages rather than an English name that doesn't convey well in other places (albeit this seems applied half-heartedly). Gone are the days when Hasbro not only bothered to name a pony something that was an actual word, they also bothered to translate it for kids in other countries so they actually knew what their pony was called. And yeah, I know there are G1 examples of nutty names, but still. Even if some of them are sappy, many of them do involve actual words and have actual equivalents in other places.

I don't like Gusty. At least, I like her as a basic pony, though I am not obsessive about her. I hate her in the cartoon, though. She's a bully and a grump and completely unlike the Gusty I remember from my childhood, who was kind, empathic, clever and took care of the baby ponies. I really wish we'd had Ribbon instead. I mean, if we were going to get one or the other, which seems probable, I'd rather have had Ribbon...

Also, I really don't want retro versions of the Princess Ponies because they will have bushwoolies and the wrong accessories and the wrong names for what I remember. That is a totally selfish opinion, but in this thread those are allowed, right?

I don't really want to buy any pony or pony item reissued with the 'wrong' name for what I remember growing up with, but for some, like 'Sweetie/Sweet Stuff', I might make an exception. However, I really don't want it with the princess set because I associate the US names with that horrible characterisation of them as spoiled brats in the Quest of the Princess Ponies. I really cannot stand them in that show. Probably even more than Gusty tbh. 

The princesses were beautifully characterised in the comics. Pearl was the sensitive one and the artist. Sapphire the wise one. Aquamarine the dreamer. Ruby the restless one always buzzing around. Amber the one who thought she could solve everything (but rarely could on her own), and Amethyst the one who meant well but always got things messed up somehow. And their dragons each complimented their personalities with personalities of their own - distinct individuals rather than a mass sheep mentality like the bushwoolies have. I love the Bushwoolies but I don't really love the fact they don't have their own personalities. So yeah. That's my really selfish unpopular opinion. No retro princesses please.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on January 20, 2019, 06:10:27 AM
I don't like Gusty. At least, I like her as a basic pony, though I am not obsessive about her. I hate her in the cartoon, though. She's a bully and a grump and completely unlike the Gusty I remember from my childhood, who was kind, empathic, clever and took care of the baby ponies. I really wish we'd had Ribbon instead. I mean, if we were going to get one or the other, which seems probable, I'd rather have had Ribbon...
I didn't like her as a kid either, although now at least I find her like Bart Simpson voice hilarious.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Elva on January 20, 2019, 06:32:44 AM
Didn't Nancy Cartwright voice Gusty? I havent heard Gusty's voice in the series but now I gotta find a clip  :lol: I dont really like Gusty either, she's a little bit overhyped. But everyone has a favourite character!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on January 20, 2019, 06:39:07 AM
yeah, Gusty was voiced by Nancy Cartwright.

I'm sure I remember reading an interview, or somesuch, with one of the Hasbro workers that explained all the silly names from G3 onwards are because it's easier to trademark one nonsensical name, rather than picking one and having to check that it doesn't mean something bad in a foreign language, etc etc
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 20, 2019, 06:45:11 AM
This is the thread of selfishness! I like how the Princess ponies sound in the comics. In the show they were indistinguishable. I'm willing to ignore the too-thick tinsel and strange symbols i appreciate a character.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on January 20, 2019, 07:16:58 AM
Didn't Nancy Cartwright voice Gusty? I havent heard Gusty's voice in the series but now I gotta find a clip  :lol:
One word: https://youtu.be/4_8M4IzO-HU?t=632
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 20, 2019, 08:46:44 AM
I have come to the realization that I like Starshine in art more then toy. With the exception being German Starshine.

I don't like the darker pink stripe on the Anniversary Rainbows hair.

The 35ths scents are way too strong. What did they do? Drop the damn toys in pools of perfume? (Starshine's was the most mild.) The G3 Sunny Scents were never like this.



Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 20, 2019, 08:47:55 AM
I have come to the realization that I like Starshine in art more then toy. With the exception being German Starshine.

I don't like the darker pink stripe on the Anniversary Rainbows hair.

The 35ths scents are way too strong. What did they do? Drop the damn toys in pools of perfume? (Starshine's was the most mild.) The G3 Sunny Scents were never like this.





Sundae Best are still worse. Chocolate Chip (Coco Berry) and Butter Kiss (Swirly Whirly), I'm looking at you.

30 years and still deadly.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 20, 2019, 08:55:36 AM
Were all G1 scents that strong? I've never had any.


I like the 35th Twinkles mould better then the original.

I don't care if other people rip open blind bags/blind boxes searching for who they want. I think the concept of blind figs are annoying and though I wouldn't do it myself, I get to peek into what got opened without ending up with common doubles and without getting in trouble.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 20, 2019, 09:16:10 AM
Were all G1 scents that strong? I've never had any.


I only had one scented pony from new, a Sweetberry, and she was quite strong, but the second hand Sundae Bests, some of them, that I've had have been way worse. Those two in particular. And honestly, they still are now, even though so much time has passed. Which makes me think how they must have been new, given that my childhood Cherry Treats is no longer as potent as she once was...

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Henpatch on January 20, 2019, 02:03:29 PM
I am an old/oldfashioned pony lover.
ONLY G1s - after that..........Nope!
I have had just about every one - Nirvanas included.......Rapunzel, Mermaid amd a couple of others haven't had/got from the finance point of view.
I am downsizing them slowly - it is hard to know who to let go!  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on January 20, 2019, 02:59:07 PM


I don't like Gusty. At least, I like her as a basic pony, though I am not obsessive about her. I hate her in the cartoon, though. She's a bully and a grump and completely unlike the Gusty I remember from my childhood, who was kind, empathic, clever and took care of the baby ponies. I really wish we'd had Ribbon instead. I mean, if we were going to get one or the other, which seems probable, I'd rather have had Ribbon...

Also, I really don't want retro versions of the Princess Ponies because they will have bushwoolies and the wrong accessories and the wrong names for what I remember. That is a totally selfish opinion, but in this thread those are allowed, right?

I don't really want to buy any pony or pony item reissued with the 'wrong' name for what I remember growing up with, but for some, like 'Sweetie/Sweet Stuff', I might make an exception. However, I really don't want it with the princess set because I associate the US names with that horrible characterisation of them as spoiled brats in the Quest of the Princess Ponies. I really cannot stand them in that show. Probably even more than Gusty tbh. 

The princesses were beautifully characterised in the comics. Pearl was the sensitive one and the artist. Sapphire the wise one. Aquamarine the dreamer. Ruby the restless one always buzzing around. Amber the one who thought she could solve everything (but rarely could on her own), and Amethyst the one who meant well but always got things messed up somehow. And their dragons each complimented their personalities with personalities of their own - distinct individuals rather than a mass sheep mentality like the bushwoolies have. I love the Bushwoolies but I don't really love the fact they don't have their own personalities. So yeah. That's my really selfish unpopular opinion. No retro princesses please.


I wish the US princess ponies had the same personalities as they did in the comics instead of the ones that they have in the G1 cartoon. I've never really liked Gusty's cartoon personality either as she often says mean and spiteful things to the others.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Elva on January 20, 2019, 09:20:30 PM
Didn't Nancy Cartwright voice Gusty? I havent heard Gusty's voice in the series but now I gotta find a clip  :lol:
One word: https://youtu.be/4_8M4IzO-HU?t=632

HOLY COW I felt like she's gonna tell us to eat her shorts at any second!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on January 21, 2019, 12:28:37 AM
Didn't Nancy Cartwright voice Gusty? I havent heard Gusty's voice in the series but now I gotta find a clip  :lol:
One word: https://youtu.be/4_8M4IzO-HU?t=632

HOLY COW I felt like she's gonna tell us to eat her shorts at any second!!

If I knew how to overlay Gusty with a track of Bart speaking I would make that happen...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on January 21, 2019, 01:40:36 AM
I also miss the less ridiculous names of earlier generations, and especially the wonderful world of translated names!

My latest unpopular opinion: I don't know how I feel about customising older ponies. I have done restorations myself, and alternate rehairs, which I know some people count as customs. I also own a customised pony (rehair and new symbol). But very often I look at customs and think 'noooo, that was a G1 pony'....but then if the custom is really cute and MLP-like I find I don't mind so much, which is totally hypocritical and subjective, and I'm well aware that nobody makes a custom thinking 'and I must make sure it is acceptable to Shaz!' :lol:. Also, although I love vampires, zombies etc in other contexts, I don't like ponies customised into gory or 'non-cute' things. I know a lot of people have strong views on customisation, but I'm just confused and constantly changing my mind :lol:.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Elva on January 21, 2019, 02:26:32 AM
But very often I look at customs and think 'noooo, that was a G1 pony'....

Same!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 21, 2019, 04:23:31 AM
But very often I look at customs and think 'noooo, that was a G1 pony'....

Same!!

In the old days, I didn't think much about it because G1 ponies were really common. I only ever played around with really baity ponies, and only did a few such (I have a baby masquerade and a baby parasol I made back then who still live on my shelf, I am quite happy with them given my general lack of art skills) but now...I dunno. Now I feel kind of the same.

I don't actually mind if the pony is genuinely baity. To me (and this is also an unpopular opinion, so keeps me on topic), the moment a pony is restored, it is half custom. If a pony is rehaired, it is a custom to me. It loses all its collector value the moment original hair is removed (even cut hair) to replace it with something non pony. So in my mind, a pony rehaired and a pony customised are the same thing. If that makes sense. Ditto repainted symbols albeit that is less drastic than a rehair to me.

In general I think it would be good if we customised G1 ponies less, esp now we have the retros which are adequate for customising and also HQG1C as well. But if a pony has no hair and symbol, to me that can be customised, because restoration is also customising.

On the subject of unpopular opinions - I don't like replica stuff. I really don't like replica accessories, especially those that look a lot like the original. I feel like there's no point collecting something if you are just going to have it made to order instead. I like the challenge of finding the real thing - so would rather go without than have a fake on my shelf.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on January 21, 2019, 09:21:40 AM
I would like replica small things, if they are in colors that did not exist for gen 1 and so on to distinguish them form the real deal. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on January 21, 2019, 08:59:57 PM
:bomb: WOAH!!!! Bad opinion alert!!! :bomb:

I think flutter ponies are overhyped. They're alright. They're very plain. The later flutters like Cloud Puff are pretty, but Rose Dust and them are underwhelming. The breakable wings don't help matters. Windy Wings are the better "fairy" pony race... more colourful and more interesting symbols.

I also think the early years of G1 are boring. The designs are plain but a big factor of my disinterest is the saturation of it. A lot of the retro merch is the Rainbows, Collectors, Applejack, Firefly, Glory, etc. It's tiring. That's why I'm SO excited for the Year 3 Rainbow repros! They're something NEW! :cheer: But anyways, I think 1985 onward is the best the generation has to offer. They did every gimmick in the book, they gave the ponies tons of colours in their hair, they gave them fun symbols, it's great.

"Still playing with the pure purple pony with the flowers on her butt I see, may I interest you in these ponies dressed in outrageous 80s fashion that violently vibrate while swishing their tails?"
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on January 22, 2019, 01:50:44 AM
I would like replica small things, if they are in colors that did not exist for gen 1 and so on to distinguish them form the real deal.

Same here, sometimes the prices for the original accessories are just too much for me. Affordable replicas that are easy to distinguish from the originals would make me happy.

 
"Still playing with the pure purple pony with the flowers on her butt I see, may I interest you in these ponies dressed in outrageous 80s fashion that violently vibrate while swishing their tails?"

:lol: I do love the simple early ponies but the later ponies with lots of colour and weird gimmicks are just so much fun! Dance n Prance ponies were an ingenious idea.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on January 22, 2019, 03:29:48 AM
I also think the early years of G1 are boring. The designs are plain but a big factor of my disinterest is the saturation of it. A lot of the retro merch is the Rainbows, Collectors, Applejack, Firefly, Glory, etc. It's tiring. That's why I'm SO excited for the Year 3 Rainbow repros! They're something NEW! :cheer: But anyways, I think 1985 onward is the best the generation has to offer. They did every gimmick in the book, they gave the ponies tons of colours in their hair, they gave them fun symbols, it's great.

YES! I couldn't agree more! I think I've mentioned this before, but at the big annual fleamarket I often find earlier ponies (and never the ones I actually WANT), and then I'm always a bit bummed. Yes, super ungrateful, I know. So when I finally find a later pony I am beyond happy, it really feels like a found a rare gem. XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on January 22, 2019, 07:14:13 AM
I also tend to prefer mid to late G1 ponies over the earlier ones. There are some earlier ones I love a lot, but most of my favorites are from Year Four onward. I love all ponies though, but just have a preference for those ones. :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 23, 2019, 05:35:54 AM
I think 1987 and 1988 are probably the pinnacle of MLP in terms of design etc (I take it to 1988 because some of the US 1987 line got bumped back to 1988 here). But my loyalty is to the earlier ponies from 1983-6 that were in the UK stories but not in stores. That gave them kind of mythical status for me and I will always treasure them for that. I actually find it sad (and this can be my unpopular opinion if you like) that the US market was so saturated with those ponies that the value/joy of them seems somewhat dulled. It's like they're taken for granted. I don't know whether there's an equivalent going the other way. People here are still caught up in Mountain Boys the same as the US, and there aren't many ponies sold in the UK that appeared in US stories (only the tales ones I think? Which are not common either, so not taken for granted here).

It's unpopular but I want Basic Fun to produce the year 2 and 3 sets the UK didn't have. THe ones in the stories but not in the stores. I genuinely love a lot of later ponies, both ones the UK had and didn't have, but I don't really care about seeing them in stores. It's a different kind of thing for me I think. Basic Fun are going to produce the US line, for obvious reasons, but I have a different kind of feeling for US ponies not in UK stories vs those which were. And that mythical status trumps everything for me...

Maybe in a way I benefited from the fact they were here but not here as a kid. It means I've never got tired of them. I think I'd be really sad if I ever started thinking of Glory or Medley as boring...

If Basic Fun produce SS ponies, or any other set the US had that we didn't, it will be interesting. I might buy them. But the only ones I care about seeing in store are the year 2 and 3 uni and pegasus ponies, year 3 rainbows, and maybe the early baby ponies. Otherwise *shrug*.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pinkie21 on January 23, 2019, 07:47:53 AM
I believe that even with all its animation errors, the original G1 cartoon still looked way better than the new flash series.

This.  I enjoy FiM somewhat, but the characters still look boring and more like deer-mice than ponies. 
Tales, TBH, was probably my favorite in terms of animation design.  It was corny, for sure.  But I loved those really massive snouts LOL.
Also, I like that there weren’t as many non-ponies.  We had non-ponies, sure (Bushwoolies, etc).  But not to the ridiculous extent of FiM, where it’s used for forced and contrived lessons in “diversity”.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 23, 2019, 08:19:15 AM
I believe that even with all its animation errors, the original G1 cartoon still looked way better than the new flash series.

 where it’s used for forced and contrived lessons in“diversity”.

Diversity is fine with me when it's actually about diversity. FIM usually comes over as the ponies forcing their idea of friendship on other cultures, which to me is more an apologetics of colonialism. I am not sure they mean it that way, but it's awkward and comes over like that. In G1 I feel like there wasn't that kind of motif from the ponies towards other species. Not in the explicit "we have come to enlighten your people" sense.

 There were other species and lands but in many cases (esp in the comic) they were living in their own lands and sometimes the ponies went and visited them or they visited or festivals were had...there wasn't a sense that the ponies needed to enlighten the other creatures. And diversity existed through different species of pony as well, with the sea ponies having their own domain and relationships with Miranda the mermaid, Kelpie and King Neptune which was entirely different to the Dream Valley ponies and their direct link to Majesty. And Flutter Valley had its own Queen other than Majesty, while other ponies came to live in Ponyland from other places, suggesting other pony countries and lands beyond that were never really explored.

I think that was a more natural kind of diversity :/ Some ponies that look the same but come from different lands. Some ponies that look different but come from the same land. And some peoples of different species completely who may live in ponyland or outside and be integrated into the society through their friendships with other characters (Question Mark, Junk It, Weather Witch, etc).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on January 24, 2019, 02:27:57 AM
I think that was a more natural kind of diversity :/ Some ponies that look the same but come from different lands. Some ponies that look different but come from the same land. And some peoples of different species completely who may live in ponyland or outside and be integrated into the society through their friendships with other characters (Question Mark, Junk It, Weather Witch, etc).

I love how big the G1 world seems in the cartoon and comics. There's always somewhere new to be explored, and different kinds of creatures. I think it would be more fun to make up your own stories set in the G1 world as well, because anything goes: magic, talking inanimate objects, pixies, whatever! All the 'world-building' that people get so excited about in G4 is actually quite restrictive in a way, a sort of storytelling equivalent of releasing the Mane 6 repeatedly.

And I just HATE the whole theme of teaching friendship to everybody. It makes all non-ponies look like idiots, for a start. G1 had one episode about friendship being great (The Magic Coins). G4 has had eight seasons and it's getting ridiculous. Friendship is nice, but it's not the be-all and end-all of existence. (I'm an unsociable introvert, if I lived in Equestria I would be so annoyed having friendship pushed at me all the time!)

If I was a kid with no prior interest in ponies and saw the G1 cartoon/comic/storybooks, I would probably get into ponies. If I saw G4, I would probably think it was not for me. I think actually if I had seen G4 when I was little I would have dismissed it as too girly because of all the fashion shows, parties, spa days, talking about feelings/friendship etc. Nothing wrong with that sort of thing, but as a kid I would have dismissed it in favour of adventure and magic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 24, 2019, 02:31:46 AM
I think that was a more natural kind of diversity :/ Some ponies that look the same but come from different lands. Some ponies that look different but come from the same land. And some peoples of different species completely who may live in ponyland or outside and be integrated into the society through their friendships with other characters (Question Mark, Junk It, Weather Witch, etc).

I love how big the G1 world seems in the cartoon and comics. There's always somewhere new to be explored, and different kinds of creatures. I think it would be more fun to make up your own stories set in the G1 world as well, because anything goes: magic, talking inanimate objects, pixies, whatever! All the 'world-building' that people get so excited about in G4 is actually quite restrictive in a way, a sort of storytelling equivalent of releasing the Mane 6 repeatedly.

And I just HATE the whole theme of teaching friendship to everybody. It makes all non-ponies look like idiots, for a start. G1 had one episode about friendship being great (The Magic Coins). G4 has had eight seasons and it's getting ridiculous. Friendship is nice, but it's not the be-all and end-all of existence. (I'm an unsociable introvert, if I lived in Equestria I would be so annoyed having friendship pushed at me all the time!)

If I was a kid with no prior interest in ponies and saw the G1 cartoon/comic/storybooks, I would probably get into ponies. If I saw G4, I would probably think it was not for me. I think actually if I had seen G4 when I was little I would have dismissed it as too girly because of all the fashion shows, parties, spa days, talking about feelings/friendship etc. Nothing wrong with that sort of thing, but as a kid I would have dismissed it in favour of adventure and magic.
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I don't think FIM caters to people who don't fit the mainstream. And I imagine a lot of kids end up feeling frustrated or lonely or left out because of that fact. And yeah. G4 is really girly. That's my unpopular opinion. G4 is way way way more girly and gendered than G1 is. Which is fine, but it annoys me when people describe G1 as being all about parties and stuff, when that's clearly what G4 is about. And even when you have Rarity with her capable business brain, there's still that superficial stereotype that she has to be obsessed with fashion, jewellery, hair...daarling.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on January 24, 2019, 06:11:13 AM
Yeah, G4 is girly.  It has guys interested in it, and does more than what would be stereotypically seen as "for girls" (in fact, all generations do this), but that will never make it "not girly".  You won't find this brony using the cool stuff as proof that "the show isn't for little girls", because it is, and it annoys me when bronies do that - the point should be that little girl's cartoons can be entertaining for all, and that guys can like girly stuff.

In my mind, we (myself and other bronies) should embrace the fact it's girly, not try to prove it isn't.  :lovey:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 24, 2019, 02:44:01 PM
Yeah, G4 is girly.  It has guys interested in it, and does more than what would be stereotypically seen as "for girls" (in fact, all generations do this), but that will never make it "not girly".  You won't find this brony using the cool stuff as proof that "the show isn't for little girls", because it is, and it annoys me when bronies do that - the point should be that little girl's cartoons can be entertaining for all, and that guys can like girly stuff.

In my mind, we (myself and other bronies) should embrace the fact it's girly, not try to prove it isn't.  :lovey:

Well said.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on January 24, 2019, 06:03:49 PM
I like to think that the part of Dream valley we’ve seen in the cartoons and comics is only a small part of it and there are many creatures living there that the ponies didn’t meet in the cartoons and comics.

FIM has always been hit or miss for me and one of my least favorite episodes is the one about the Yaks where the moral seemed to be “don’t try to make your friends comfortable when the come  to visit because they really want to learn about your fantastic city.”

I also don’t like FIM’s method of redeeming every villain/antagonist. I though having Diamond Tiara being a bully was realistic and showed kids that everyone isn’t going to your friend.

Ponyfan




Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on January 31, 2019, 09:56:39 AM
And yeah. G4 is really girly.

I have only watched a few G4 episodes (thankfully) and from what I've seen, it is WAY girlier than G1. For all the bashing old MLP has always gotten from everyone for supposedly being all tea parties and dressups, I can only recall a handful of times when the G1 cartoons featured anything stereotypically girly (like the costume ball at the end of the second special), other than that, when ponies were not busy saving their world from doom, they would usually just spend their time playing sports, landscape exploring or chilling by the pool. Meanwhile, I remember one G4 episode that was all focused on everyone going to a big ball, trying on their outfits and all, and in another there was a whole song where pony pricesses were singing to the newest princess about what a great pony princess she will be, and it felt REALLY sappy. If you ask me, despite Lauren Faust patting herself so much on the back for challening girly stereotypes in cartoons, G1 did way better job with that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on January 31, 2019, 10:57:01 AM
And yeah. G4 is really girly.

I have only watched a few G4 episodes (thankfully) and from what I've seen, it is WAY girlier than G1. For all the bashing old MLP has always gotten from everyone for supposedly being all tea parties and dressups, I can only recall a handful of times when the G1 cartoons featured anything stereotypically girly (like the costume ball at the end of the second special), other than that, when ponies were not busy saving their world from doom, they would usually just spend their time playing sports, landscape exploring or chilling by the pool. Meanwhile, I remember one G4 episode that was all focused on everyone going to a big ball, trying on their outfits and all, and in another there was a whole song where pony pricesses were singing to the newest princess about what a great pony princess she will be, and it felt REALLY sappy. If you ask me, despite Lauren Faust patting herself so much on the back for challening girly stereotypes in cartoons, G1 did way better job with that.

G4 also has a song dedicated to baking cupcakes, and an episode about sleepovers in the first season. :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ThePoneZone on January 31, 2019, 11:00:24 AM
I wanted to add another thing, since we're on the subject of FiM...

The songs. Everyone loves the songs, but I can't really like most of them because of how heavy the autotune is. I have a sensitive ear for these things and if I can hear the autotune it instantly turns me off a song. I haven't seen every episode though, so I might've missed some good songs that haven't been autotuned to death. I did enjoy quite a few songs, though. This Day Aria probably being my favourite.

I'm not trying to say G1 had better songs, either. Some of them were downright dissonant with the poor audio mixing and screechy voices. I do like a majority of G3's songs, though. Most of them are really catchy and I hate it. I still have Wish You Were Here stuck in my head after all these years.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 31, 2019, 01:33:58 PM
And yeah. G4 is really girly.

I have only watched a few G4 episodes (thankfully) and from what I've seen, it is WAY girlier than G1. For all the bashing old MLP has always gotten from everyone for supposedly being all tea parties and dressups, I can only recall a handful of times when the G1 cartoons featured anything stereotypically girly (like the costume ball at the end of the second special), other than that, when ponies were not busy saving their world from doom, they would usually just spend their time playing sports, landscape exploring or chilling by the pool. Meanwhile, I remember one G4 episode that was all focused on everyone going to a big ball, trying on their outfits and all, and in another there was a whole song where pony pricesses were singing to the newest princess about what a great pony princess she will be, and it felt REALLY sappy. If you ask me, despite Lauren Faust patting herself so much on the back for challening girly stereotypes in cartoons, G1 did way better job with that.

G4 also has a song dedicated to baking cupcakes, and an episode about sleepovers in the first season. :P

Yeah. I wouldn't care about how girly G4 was if the fans of it weren't busy trying to make out G1 as being more girly. And I am not even a huge fan of the G1 animation, but you know, in contrast. I've watched 2 seasons and some random eps of FIM, and they're meant to be at the better end of the storyline. And they're really. Very. Stereotype girly.

On the note of the costume ball, not to be a cynic or anything, but rather than being girly, that's a shop window. Unlike G4, which does a terrible job of promoting toys in the show, Dressed Like a Dream is entirely designed to sell that year's ponywear and nothing else. If not, it wouldn't exist. Guaranteed.

The same occurs in Jem. There's one episode from early 1987 called Glitter and Gold which amuses me no end because of the number of unnecessary costume showoffs that occur in such a short period of time. They manage to promote all the new year's line of dolls with the exception of Raya and Jetta (who get a 2 parter dedicated to them right afterwards), all the Glitter and Gold fashions, Clash in correct colour scheme, a fair number of flipsides and a few others, plus GnG Jem and Rio. It's insane, and it makes Dressed like a Dream look minor and subtle in comparison xD. Hasbro were good at animation marketing in the eighties.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 01, 2019, 10:59:41 AM
You know... I've never seen sleepovers as a girly thing, it always seemed genderless to me (keep in mind I embrace my love of girly things.)

Anyway... how about some of my Unpopular Pony Opinions?  It's the point of the thread after all.

1.  I may have mentioned this before, but I enjoyed "Slice of Life".  It didn't seem too Brony-pandering to me, and I ultimately didn't care if it was, because they showcased the background ponies that I liked, so it didn't matter if they were brony-popular or not (even though I knew that most of the ones I was interested in were.  Also, my pen pal's favorite background pony is Amethyst Star, so I was really happy to see her used, because I correctly guessed he would love that moment - that was far more important to me than whether or not the scene was brony-pandering or not (my pen pal is not a brony.)

2.  On the subject, while I think that pandering to bronies or trying too hard to get them to like what their doing is bad... I actually don't think it really happens that much, especially in the seasons people started complaining about it.  I mean, it may be because I don't follow what their memes are anymore, but in hindsight, I don't think I saw anymore brony stuff in seasons four and five, than I did in season two (and all that was just assumed, anyway.)  The only things I really noticed was brony-popular ponies being used, and they all tended to fit into the scenes I saw them in anyway, so it never seemed to be a problem.

The only time the brony-pandering seemed in your face obvious was when they referenced the "Twiligtlicious" meme in "Pinkie Apple Pie" by having Apple Bloom do an out of nowhere version of it, but it was later brought to my intention that it might not have been brony-pandering, because Michelle is friends with the brony who made it a meme, so it might have been a shout out to him?

I also noticed that people seem to think that references to things that are from before the time of the target audience are for bronies, but I don't think they are.  I just think the writers referenced things they like because they wanted to.

3.  I don't see anything wrong with any genre being chosen to make pony music in the fandom.  I remember someone here questioning if it is really right to make a metal song about My Little Pony, and in my opinion; sure it is!  If something inspires you to create something, you can create it that way.  It doesn't look like it doesn't fit, or like their trying to take the girlyness out of it (not that some bronies don't try to do that, as discussed), it just feels like these people like MLP and they like metal music, so they put it together.

Seriously, you get an idea for a song, and you just have to go with it - I honestly think you can make it work.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 01, 2019, 01:14:59 PM
I've actually not seen any of the episodes that people say pander to bronies. I genuinely don't have a problem with bronies unless they're the kind who trash G1 or trash people who like G1. But those are the crazies. I just think the word is tainted, so probably needs either serious renovation and reclaiming by the sane ones, or ditching and starting again. Because for many brony is always going to carry negative connitations, even though not all bronies are crazy.

Unpopular opinion for today. Rearing ponies were a bad idea.

Aside needing the stand and their propensity for falling over, they also skew shelf height requirements. Maybe it's because no rearing ponies were sold in the UK (unless you count baby Bouncy in 1993-4 and she's tiny in comparison) but I feel like they are unnecessary.

I like the ponies in the rearing pose fine, but I have a kind of disconnect with Magic Star because the one I grew up with knowing was different. I hated that cj pose as a kid but now as an adult I much prefer Magic Star with her hooves on the ground. The rearing pose (and the huuuge back feet) just doesn't really seem necessary to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 02, 2019, 06:40:27 AM
I genuinely don't have a problem with bronies unless they're the kind who trash G1 or trash people who like G1. But those are the crazies. I just think the word is tainted, so probably needs either serious renovation and reclaiming by the sane ones, or ditching and starting again. Because for many brony is always going to carry negative connitations, even though not all bronies are crazy.
That's the option I'm hoping for, as I have a nostalgic and sentimental attachment to the fandom name, so I do hope that it get associated with the positive side of the fandom again.  It's a shame that it has a negative connotation, but I can see why it does.

I never agreed to the bronies who hated on the previous generations (it's not just G1, they all get hated - G3 is treated especially badly), even before I got into the pre-G4 stuff, I knew I didn't want to hate on pre-G4, because I thought it looked mean, and I hated the way some bronies were being really over the top with their hate.  I then checked out the pre-G4 cartoons, and found that they're all similar to G4 in different ways, making the hate make less sense.

But yeah, long story short - I'm a brony who likes all generations.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 16, 2019, 08:24:27 AM
This is gonna be super controversial. I sometimes think that  MLP would be better off dying out, if it is gonna be nothing but more mane six.

But on the other hand, there's nothing saying that a future incarnation might someday return the brand to its roots as a diverse collectible toyline with cartoons for commercials. So I'm holding onto hope that the brand won't suffer this bs forever. But the leaks, if they are real, have not given me hope.

The FiM toyline is the Teen Titans Go of the brand. Ugly, poor quality, excruciatingly repetetive, has overstayed its welcome and is being shoved down the throats of consumers ad naseum.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on February 16, 2019, 08:32:05 AM
This is gonna be super controversial. I sometimes think that  MLP would be better off dying out, if the if it is gonna be nothing but more mane six.

But on the other hand, there's nothing saying that a future incarnation might someday return the brand to its roots as a diverse collectible toyline with cartoons for commercials. So I'm holding onto hope that the brand won't suffer this bs forever. But the leaks, if they are real, have not given me hope.

The FiM toyline is the Teen Titans Go of the brand. Ugly, poor quality, excruciatingly repetetive, has overstayed its welcome and is being shoved down the throats of consumers ad naseum.

This is the reason I don't think I'll ever feel bad about customizing a G4.  There are so many Mane 6 out there that if I can't find one to customize, there's something wrong with me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 16, 2019, 09:15:24 AM
I think G4 Moondancer is awful. Those Rock Lee eyebrows, her round chihuahua head and her wishy-washy body color as though she came pre-yellowed makes me glad she never got a toy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 16, 2019, 12:23:46 PM
This is gonna be super controversial. I sometimes think that  MLP would be better off dying out, if it is gonna be nothing but more mane six.


Maybe its controversial, but I agree. I have a certain pride in this collectable and this toyline and I would rather see it die completely than just watch it march soullessly on in clone form.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 16, 2019, 02:45:37 PM
This is gonna be super controversial. I sometimes think that  MLP would be better off dying out, if it is gonna be nothing but more mane six.


Maybe its controversial, but I agree. I have a certain pride in this collectable and this toyline and I would rather see it die completely than just watch it march soullessly on in clone form.

*cue imperial march*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 17, 2019, 03:07:55 PM
I think G4 Moondancer is awful. Those Rock Lee eyebrows, her round chihuahua head and her wishy-washy body color as though she came pre-yellowed makes me glad she never got a toy.
I don't like her design either.  Especially her eyebrows and her mane - she just doesn't look right to me.

I get that she is a different character, and G4 already included ponies who are of the same name as previous generation ponies, but are different characters (as do G2 to G3.5) and I'm fine with that, but I feel that G4 Moondancer was supposed to be closer to her G1 self, considering that Lauren probably saw her that way when she first mentioned her (that's speculation of course.)

I know Lauren wasn't in control when Moondancer was actually included, but I feel if she was, she probably would have been close in looks at least to the G1 self, since she is a fan of Moondancer.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 17, 2019, 03:29:38 PM
Because the Gods forbid that a girl's toyline be girly. This gen is just as girly as the rest of em. And no matter how much the crazy, brainwashed fans scream otherwise, that's not gonna change. To somewhat quote the wise turtle sensei from Kung Fu Panda,

"You may wish for an apple tree or an orange tree, but it is still a peach tree."
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on February 18, 2019, 12:45:47 AM
I actually didn't like any of the references to G1 in G4.  They were warped into things that never seemed quite right.  Even poor Applejack.  It's fine.  I'm over it now.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 18, 2019, 02:32:03 AM
Because the Gods forbid that a girl's toyline be girly. This gen is just as girly as the rest of em. And no matter how much the crazy, brainwashed fans scream otherwise, that's not gonna change. To somewhat quote the wise turtle sensei from Kung Fu Panda,

"You may wish for an apple tree or an orange tree, but it is still a peach tree."

G3 is probably the most girly generation, but IMO, G4 is close behind it. But it's not a bad thing that way. It's just the silly protests of the fandom that it's not the case that gets me.

Maybe it's an unpopular opinion, but G4 is way more girly than G1. If I had grown up with G4, instead of G1, I probably wouldn't have been a pony collector. I'd have definitely gone down the Monster High route instead.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 18, 2019, 04:49:15 AM
I actually didn't like any of the references to G1 in G4.  They were warped into things that never seemed quite right.  Even poor Applejack.  It's fine.  I'm over it now.
I liked them in season 1 and 2 (Applejack not counting, she's her own character), when they just sought of casual "Oh, remember G1 and G3?" style moments - assuming they were references, because they could have been coincidences, I like to think they were references or at least "reminders" though.

It's when they actually brought in characters during season four onwards from G1 when it got weird, as they ended up being different characters in total, which is fine as this isn't G1, but it seemed odd for some reason.  Maybe because I was expecting a full on G1 tribute?  I dunno...  I'd say it was down to new writers, but they changed Applejack under the original creator - I guess Applejack was the one pony of that group Lauren saw differently?  They were based on how she played with them, more than who they were in the show at the end of the day.

I always find it silly when bronies say Applejack changed the least from G1, when if you look at the G1 ponies that the Mane Six started out of, they all kind of fit their G1 cartoon selves, but Applejack doesn't.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 18, 2019, 08:45:57 AM
I still say its erroneous to call the Mane Six G1 inspired, when almost all of them are blatantly G3 carry overs.  Lauren Faust was full of crap when she said that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 18, 2019, 09:15:43 AM
I still say its erroneous to call the Mane Six G1 inspired, when almost all of them are blatantly G3 carry overs.  Lauren Faust was full of crap when she said that.
They are G1 inspired.  They were supposed to be G1 carry overs based on how she saw Six G1 ponies when she was younger - she was told not to make them those G1 ponies and was told to give them G3 names.

The five who aren't Applejack are a lot closer to their G1 counterparts than their G3 ones.  To make G3 Rainbow Dash into G4 Rainbow Dash, you need to give her a complete personality makeover, but to make Firefly into G4 Rainbow Dash, you just have to add some arrogance, and she's done.  All of the others (I need to check on Twilight Sparkle), fit the G1 ponies they were supposed to be far more than the G3 reboots they ended up being - and that's even when you take into account that Lauren was basing it on how she played with them, and not how they were in the show.

The plan was always to make them G1 remakes, but she wasn't allowed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 18, 2019, 09:28:15 AM
Hardly. Most of them just got tweaks and personality swaps.  And considering they were based on how She was playing with them just adds credence to the fact that they are not G1 inspired. Making up your own stories with your toys is fun. But that doesn't mean it was the truth.

But then, this is the woman who thinks that MLP and Friends and all girls shows were nothing but tea parties and crying over nothing. Care Bears, She-Ra, Rainbowbrite, Moondreamers and Jem are so far removed from that outright lie its amazing anyone who has access to youtube or netflix still believes it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 18, 2019, 10:46:29 AM
The jury is still out on whether she meant G1 when she said that, in my opinion.  It could easily be taken to mean she meant other shows that weren't G1 the way it was worded.

I'm not sure it was even stated what girl's shows she meant, but if she never saw any back then she could have just assumed and gotten it wrong, she is allowed to make mistakes.

Either way, if they were inspired by her interpretation of G1, they are still G1 inspired as she was thinking of G1 when she wrote them and G3 had no hand in their creation other than their names, and some of their designs.  They are definitely more G1 inspired than G3 inspired since they don't match any of the G3 ponies from their group, as much as I love G3.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 18, 2019, 12:44:20 PM
Another unpopular opinion. Lauren Faust's opinion of older generations is no more or less valid or important than anyone else's opinions. It's a fan opinion. Not a mantra to live by ;)

Faust may have created G4 canon. For anything prior to G4, she is just a fan or a child who played with MLP.  And it annoys me how her opinions of older generations are worshipped by some crazy folk as though her writing for G4 somehow makes her an authority on what came before. We don't need to cite her in discussions of what G1 was or wasn't.

On the subject of the inspiration of the mane 6...I agree with LAW on this. I think it's accepted that the M6 are really character 'types', not so much anything original. But the M6 are one stereotypical character detail each done to death, rather than a really varied or balanced range of character traits.

At best they harvest that one trait from one of the G1 antecedents, but it's not really much of a resemblance. Twilight Sparkle is nothing like Twilight, for example. Twilight was shy and retiring, magical and somewhat mysterious, generally travelling in a cloud of mist to hide from unwanted attention. Twilight Sparkle, on the other hand, is always at the centre of everything, and her character is entirely different. And recently I saw a lot of g4 fans mistake Glory in a G1 clip for Rarity. It's always struck me that Rarity is based on Glory's appearance, and only her symbol matches Sparkler. At best in the comic Sparkler has a gem collection, but that's the only vague similarity - yet we're meant to believe Sparkler 'inspired' Rarity. No she didn't. Rarity is Rarity. They weren't inspired from the G1 ideas. They were changed from them into the M6.

 Saying they're inspired by G1 is what's called a marketing ploy. It tries to bring this brand new thing they want to sell into the minds and hearts of the market by connecting it to that thing you knew in the past that you loved as a kid and that now your kids can love. It was also a way to bypass G2 (which bronies barely know exists) and G3 to connect G4 to G1 directly, as though it's the 'real descendent' of G1, and G2 and G3 were just abberations. I have also seen people make comments to that effect, so I guess it worked in some quarters. But again, that's not 'inspired by'. That's "you saw the previous movie, come see the sequel, it's awesome."
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 18, 2019, 01:37:09 PM
To be honest... I've never seen anyone worshiping Lauren's views on the previous generations.

I actually do see her views on My Little Pony as fan opinions, that's one of the reasons I respect it so much - she's someone who (indirectly) got her fanfictions into being a show, and that means something to me.

Oh yeah, I forgot about G1 Twilight being shy for some reason.  Even though she's literally referred to as "Shy Little Twilight" - yeah, I think she was another one who Lauren just did what she wanted to do with based on how she played with them.

I do think the Mane Six are character types, and I doubt they're meant to be original, but I do see some balance in their characters in the earlier seasons.  There are some layers, not much, but I do see some.  They seem to focus more on their one personality in the later episodes to me.

Rarity was originally supposed to be Sparkler, I guess Lauren managed to put in some of Glory's design when she was told not to use Sparkler?  I don't know how she got that in, but I can see how someone could be inspired to create G4 Rarity from Sparkler, and yes it is the gem thing - I think Sparkler used her magic to find "shiny objects" which is translated to Rarity doing the same thing to find gems.  I wouldn't be surprised if the original plan was to make Rarity's cutie mark be about finding gems, since it was never intended for her to be a designer (It's good that she is one though.)

It was not a marketing ploy at all - Hasbro didn't want her to bypass G3, they wanted her to go directly from G3.  As much as I love G3 (it's my favorite generation), the only marketing ploy going on was telling Lauren to start at G3 (presumably) because they didn't think G1 had enough familiarity to the target audience.

Hasbro at the time would have happily not bothered connecting it to G1.  If they had, they would have allowed Lauren to keep her original designs.

I do respect it if any of you don't feel they matched the G1s well, but the plan was for them to be new versions of G1 characters (however close to the originals they were) and not new versions of G3 characters.  Again, based on one person's interpretation of them, but still G1 ponies.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 18, 2019, 02:22:39 PM
I feel like if Hasbro wanted to continue from G3, they'd have continued G3. They did entirely the opposite, so I think that's a bit of a fallacy. They probably kept the names because they had the trademarks.

I am not really saying HASBRO tried to tie into G1, since Hasbro don't really care about G1 as such. But FIM as a series did, through the way the writers have cherrypicked G1 concepts and themes throughout.

I have also seen plenty of comments which go something like, "Faust says G1 is (insert) so it is (insert) over the past several years. And I don't want to see my collectable through the prism of someone else's interpretation.

I have only seen the early series of G4, so if you say that's when they're the most nuanced, all I can say is, o.O.

I am being hard on you but it isn't really you that I am critical of in the G4 world. You're a brony by your choice but you're not part of the toxicity and I respect your opinion even if I don't entirely agree with you on every point.

So the Sparkler stuff I'm putting in a spoiler as now I'm going way off topic (albeit all the above could be seen as unpopular opinions...)

The summarised version of my unpopular opinion is: Rarity is not based on Sparkler because they are basically nothing alike.
Spoiler
IMO trying to base a G4 character in a single canon (the cartoon, which is what the incarnation was developed for) on a G1 character with multiple canons (backcard story - possibly multiple in different countries/languages, storybooks - ditto above, the animation - more for some than others. The comics - ditto, again with regional distribution in different places) is not really workable without serious levels of research to find all those details and put them together. To say inspired by something is a lazy way of saying, "Looked at a picture, thought the diamonds were cute, kept them as a nod to the past." It's not really anything about Sparkler as a character - and for FIM we are not talking about "appearance" but "character", because FIM is a story, not a toyline.

It';s hard to really explain but to me the nuance is that Rarity is interested in gems because of her wider interest in beauty and fashion. Sparkler is just interested in shiny things, which she often shares or occasionally puts to greater use. I remember her particularly because she was in the first comic I ever had (#18) in the story Sparkler's Secret...she uses her stones to light the way home when a picnic overruns and it's dark...
Edit: Here it is!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiLGKj1Lm0c

In my opinion Sparkler's collection has a different kind of purpose from Rarity's. Them both having an interest in gems doesn't make them alike. As I said before, it's fine that they are not alike and that the common thing has been interpreted differently. But it doesn't make Rarity 'like Sparkler'  because they both like gems. Their characters are entirely different, and so are their appearances, and their names. Thus what are we left with? Just the diamond symbol...and even that is different. And as we're talking about a character, more than a toy comparison, they really don't have much in common.

My disclaimer to this is that Sparkler wasn't sold in the UK. The backcard story for the US appears in part in the UK factfile, and it's the part where she's finding the gem and trying to give it to Majesty, not the part where she's admiring her collection. It may be that my memories of Sparkler as a more intelligent and altruistic kind of magpie are influenced by her comic representation. Rarity is intelligent, and she is kind. But it's not the same. I guess I don't know how else to present it, but I can't see Rarity as being like Sparkler.

I can't remember much about her in Escape from Catrina. Just getting annoyed with Sundance at the beginning and wearing the cheerleader outfit at the end...(I see Rarity is more of a Scarlet Sensation/Designer Collection type of girl ;))

I could do similar for the others but I feel like this is going off topic now so..yeah.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 18, 2019, 03:13:13 PM
I do have more to say about this, but I respect the fact that we are going off topic, so I might put my views together on this elsewhere when I can.

Thank you for respecting my opinion, as I also respect the opinions of all here.  I do have some responses, but I might open something else for this rather than post it here, as I don't want to completely take over this thread.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 19, 2019, 09:00:22 AM
The jury is still out on whether she meant G1 when she said that, in my opinion.  It could easily be taken to mean she meant other shows that weren't G1 the way it was worded.

I'm not sure it was even stated what girl's shows she meant, but if she never saw any back then she could have just assumed and gotten it wrong, she is allowed to make mistakes.

Either way, if they were inspired by her interpretation of G1, they are still G1 inspired as she was thinking of G1 when she wrote them and G3 had no hand in their creation other than their names, and some of their designs.  They are definitely more G1 inspired than G3 inspired since they don't match any of the G3 ponies from their group, as much as I love G3.

And once again, that simply isn't true for many girls shows. A good chunk of them are not that vapid. I've no doubt some of them are, but its not a mistake to deliberately throw an entire section of toons under the bus. It is just as false as saying that all boys shows are full of brainless  action and gross out humor, as it is to say that all girls shows are vapid tea parties with no intelligence or respect being put into either of them.

It smacks of the astonishing belligerence of many of today's cartoonists. They can't come up with anything on their own so they ape something and badmouth the originals. FiM, ThunderCats Roar, She-Ra and the Princesses of Power and Mega Man Fully Charged all had animators that simply couldn't help slinging unfounded and unnecessary potshots at the originals and sometimes their creators.  It's a tiresome trend.

 Were the originals perfect? No. But they obviously did something right to be loved so fondly. Do fans overreact with mouths full of vitriol? Far too often and I could see how it would wear on even the most professional of people. Was there any reason to maliciously lie to try and make their iteration look better? Absolutely not.

I don't recall hearing anything about the teams who made ThunderCats 2011 or Duck Tales badmouthing the original endlessly. They were made with care and effort and love. I don't think the Rise of the Turtles ever badmouthed prior incarnations. Even Jon Chu didn't badmouth the original Jem in the face of overwhelming backlash. So points to them for showing professionalism.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on February 19, 2019, 10:43:21 AM
I had always thought that Faust had based them solely on how she played with her toys.  In the US, we didn't have a comic.  We had just the cartoons and backcard stories to go by.  And I assumed she hadn't watched the cartoon because of the "tea party" comment.  The backcards did have parties but ones that tended to be pretty epic with powerful magic involved.  But there wasn't much characterization for the earliest ponies like Glory, Sparkler and Applejack in the US.

Even so, I know Applejack was a huge favorite just for her small part with the Sea Ponies in Rescue at Midnight Castle.  For me, FiM Applejack only looks like the G1 Applejack and they aren't the same pony at all.  As a result, FiM Applejack is my least favorite pony.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on February 19, 2019, 04:11:06 PM

Even so, I know Applejack was a huge favorite just for her small part with the Sea Ponies in Rescue at Midnight Castle.  For me, FiM Applejack only looks like the G1 Applejack and they aren't the same pony at all.  As a result, FiM Applejack is my least favorite pony.

I consider FIM Applejack and G1 Applejack different characters too.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 19, 2019, 04:15:26 PM

Even so, I know Applejack was a huge favorite just for her small part with the Sea Ponies in Rescue at Midnight Castle.  For me, FiM Applejack only looks like the G1 Applejack and they aren't the same pony at all.  As a result, FiM Applejack is my least favorite pony.

I consider FIM Applejack and G1 Applejack different characters too.


Ponyfan

Me too. But that's a continuation of the basic concept that the mane 6 bear no resemblance to the G1 characters that allegedly inspired them. And it's also natural I think for a new gen to do new stuff?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on February 20, 2019, 05:11:31 PM

Even so, I know Applejack was a huge favorite just for her small part with the Sea Ponies in Rescue at Midnight Castle.  For me, FiM Applejack only looks like the G1 Applejack and they aren't the same pony at all.  As a result, FiM Applejack is my least favorite pony.

I consider FIM Applejack and G1 Applejack different characters too.


Ponyfan

Me too. But that's a continuation of the basic concept that the mane 6 bear no resemblance to the G1 characters that allegedly inspired them. And it's also natural I think for a new gen to do new stuff?
I think as I heard rumors that it was based on G1 and as they had an Applejack, I initially thought it would be the G1 version.  She was very far from it and I was disappointed.  I got over it but G4 Applejack never fully won me over.  Reboots are always hard for me to watch at first.   :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Dreamer on February 23, 2019, 04:32:37 PM
Maybe I said this before, but I'd pick adults over babies
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessNikki on February 23, 2019, 04:41:51 PM
And yeah. G4 is really girly. That's my unpopular opinion. G4 is way way way more girly and gendered than G1 is. Which is fine, but it annoys me when people describe G1 as being all about parties and stuff, when that's clearly what G4 is about.

oh god.....I never thought about this before but it's totally true.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on February 23, 2019, 10:39:35 PM
Bigger isn't better! I see everyone say G4 fashion style size should be the norm for G5, but if ponies were that big, they'd be harder to display and keep, and be even harder to make playsets for. EQG had one playset, the school, and that thing was way too small for the dolls. The way Hasbro is nowadays, the playset would collapse under the weight of the pony.

I think G3.5 is a good size. Like the body...? But more proportional.  G2ish? But shorter...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 24, 2019, 10:47:48 AM
Bigger isn't better! I see everyone say G4 fashion style size should be the norm for G5, but if ponies were that big, they'd be harder to display and keep, and be even harder to make playsets for. EQG had one playset, the school, and that thing was way too small for the dolls. The way Hasbro is nowadays, the playset would collapse under the weight of the pony.

I think G3.5 is a good size. Like the body...? But more proportional.  G2ish? But shorter...

Its no  more difficult to display them then displaying G1 or G3 ponies. They're roughly about the same size.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 24, 2019, 01:33:40 PM
Bigger isn't better! I see everyone say G4 fashion style size should be the norm for G5, but if ponies were that big, they'd be harder to display and keep, and be even harder to make playsets for. EQG had one playset, the school, and that thing was way too small for the dolls. The way Hasbro is nowadays, the playset would collapse under the weight of the pony.

I think G3.5 is a good size. Like the body...? But more proportional.  G2ish? But shorter...

Its no  more difficult to display them then displaying G1 or G3 ponies. They're roughly about the same size.

I have...four FS ponies that are on display, and I think I have one other somewhere but I don't know where she is. I really like the FS ponies but I don't buy them because of their size. I think it's because several of them add up and I have a lot of G1 ponies taking up a lot of space already. G4 brushables take up so much less space that I can focus on them.

It's a shame but I kind of agree about the FS being unrealistically big for a collecting size. But then a play size for kids...that's different. It all depends on your focus I guess?

Unpopular Opinion: I really dislike the FIM cartoon show. But I really think many of the (original style) G4 brushables are stupidly cute. It feels kind of wrong but I like having a cluster of them on my bookcase and in front of my cabinet, even though the world they're so tied to is anathema to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on February 25, 2019, 04:46:29 AM
Hasbro largely ignoring G2 makes sense to me from a business point of view as it bombed in the US, but as a European fan who was a tween when they came out I feel like all gens should be considered for nostalgia bait. Euros supported your crap when the USians didn't, Hasbro. Do something for us.

Guess my unpopular opinion is just being mopey about not getting pandered to enough. Make Ivy the lead in G5 :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 25, 2019, 06:22:36 AM
Hasbro largely ignoring G2 makes sense to me from a business point of view as it bombed in the US, but as a European fan who was a tween when they came out I feel like all gens should be considered for nostalgia bait. Euros supported your crap when the USians didn't, Hasbro. Do something for us.

Guess my unpopular opinion is just being mopey about not getting pandered to enough. Make Ivy the lead in G5 :P

I agree to all gen pandering. Maybe you G2 fans can put the bug in Basic Fun's ear?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 25, 2019, 06:44:53 AM
Hasbro largely ignoring G2 makes sense to me from a business point of view as it bombed in the US, but as a European fan who was a tween when they came out I feel like all gens should be considered for nostalgia bait. Euros supported your crap when the USians didn't, Hasbro. Do something for us.

Guess my unpopular opinion is just being mopey about not getting pandered to enough. Make Ivy the lead in G5 :P

Hasbro largely ignoring the rest of the world when it comes to releases, exclusives and timelines of production is a bugbear of mine generally. Not that I want to see regional exclusives make a return in this day and age, but I would like to see regional packaging designs again, rather than generic and frankly boring packaging that we've seen these past couple of generations.

And as Zapper said, G2 had a strong presence in Europe. Being dominant in the US shouldn't be the criteria that decides what is and isn't remembered as not everywhere had the same childhood memories...BUT Hasbro is a US company, so good luck with that. ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on February 25, 2019, 06:59:21 AM
Hasbro largely ignoring G2 makes sense to me from a business point of view as it bombed in the US, but as a European fan who was a tween when they came out I feel like all gens should be considered for nostalgia bait. Euros supported your crap when the USians didn't, Hasbro. Do something for us.

Guess my unpopular opinion is just being mopey about not getting pandered to enough. Make Ivy the lead in G5 :P

Hasbro largely ignoring the rest of the world when it comes to releases, exclusives and timelines of production is a bugbear of mine generally. Not that I want to see regional exclusives make a return in this day and age, but I would like to see regional packaging designs again, rather than generic and frankly boring packaging that we've seen these past couple of generations.

And as Zapper said, G2 had a strong presence in Europe. Being dominant in the US shouldn't be the criteria that decides what is and isn't remembered as not everywhere had the same childhood memories...BUT Hasbro is a US company, so good luck with that. ;)

I'm in the US and my very first ponies I owned were G2s so I have fond memories of them. Ivy is such a good, simple name, they should bring it back somehow! FiM has characters named Clever Clover and Dainty Dove... but they spelled it something like Dane Tee Dove? Something dumb. :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 25, 2019, 09:28:28 AM
I love North Star, but for some reason I can't explain, her toy doesn't quite grab me. I had her for a couple of hours and then gave her to my daughter where she has a very happy home.

Post Merge: February 25, 2019, 09:29:09 AM

Hasbro largely ignoring G2 makes sense to me from a business point of view as it bombed in the US, but as a European fan who was a tween when they came out I feel like all gens should be considered for nostalgia bait. Euros supported your crap when the USians didn't, Hasbro. Do something for us.

Guess my unpopular opinion is just being mopey about not getting pandered to enough. Make Ivy the lead in G5 :P

Hasbro largely ignoring the rest of the world when it comes to releases, exclusives and timelines of production is a bugbear of mine generally. Not that I want to see regional exclusives make a return in this day and age, but I would like to see regional packaging designs again, rather than generic and frankly boring packaging that we've seen these past couple of generations.

And as Zapper said, G2 had a strong presence in Europe. Being dominant in the US shouldn't be the criteria that decides what is and isn't remembered as not everywhere had the same childhood memories...BUT Hasbro is a US company, so good luck with that. ;)

I'm in the US and my very first ponies I owned were G2s so I have fond memories of them. Ivy is such a good, simple name, they should bring it back somehow! FiM has characters named Clever Clover and Dainty Dove... but they spelled it something like Dane Tee Dove? Something dumb. :P

That is a dumb way of spelling it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on February 25, 2019, 05:55:25 PM
Hasbro largely ignoring G2 makes sense to me from a business point of view as it bombed in the US, but as a European fan who was a tween when they came out I feel like all gens should be considered for nostalgia bait. Euros supported your crap when the USians didn't, Hasbro. Do something for us.

Guess my unpopular opinion is just being mopey about not getting pandered to enough. Make Ivy the lead in G5 :P

Hasbro largely ignoring the rest of the world when it comes to releases, exclusives and timelines of production is a bugbear of mine generally. Not that I want to see regional exclusives make a return in this day and age, but I would like to see regional packaging designs again, rather than generic and frankly boring packaging that we've seen these past couple of generations.

And as Zapper said, G2 had a strong presence in Europe. Being dominant in the US shouldn't be the criteria that decides what is and isn't remembered as not everywhere had the same childhood memories...BUT Hasbro is a US company, so good luck with that. ;)

I'm in the US and my very first ponies I owned were G2s so I have fond memories of them. Ivy is such a good, simple name, they should bring it back somehow! FiM has characters named Clever Clover and Dainty Dove... but they spelled it something like Dane Tee Dove? Something dumb. :P

I think they did this for trademark reasons. Hence why a lot of ponies ended up with double names (Sprinkle Medley, lmao!) or different ones to their in-show names (Sweetie Drops).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khayman81 on February 26, 2019, 02:26:21 AM
Hasbro largely ignoring G2 makes sense to me from a business point of view as it bombed in the US, but as a European fan who was a tween when they came out I feel like all gens should be considered for nostalgia bait. Euros supported your crap when the USians didn't, Hasbro. Do something for us.

Guess my unpopular opinion is just being mopey about not getting pandered to enough. Make Ivy the lead in G5 :P

Hasbro largely ignoring the rest of the world when it comes to releases, exclusives and timelines of production is a bugbear of mine generally. Not that I want to see regional exclusives make a return in this day and age, but I would like to see regional packaging designs again, rather than generic and frankly boring packaging that we've seen these past couple of generations.

And as Zapper said, G2 had a strong presence in Europe. Being dominant in the US shouldn't be the criteria that decides what is and isn't remembered as not everywhere had the same childhood memories...BUT Hasbro is a US company, so good luck with that. ;)
In Spain we feel like we don't exist. Not only with the re-release cause here it is impossible to get them but even current releases don't come here until it is all done. And thinking we even had our own manufactured ponies... Shame!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on February 26, 2019, 06:10:25 PM
I second Ivy as a G5 main character!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on February 27, 2019, 09:27:58 AM
I second Ivy as a G5 main character!

Yes, we are already two people! Let's get a petition going :lol: ;)
Heck, I would be so much more in favor of a reboot if they just took the old G2s and revamped their world. They had royalty ponies, magicians, ponies with glittery wings. All things already re-establshed in G4. So why not.

Ivy and Prince Firefly and their friends!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on February 27, 2019, 09:36:08 AM
I would love it if ponies went into D&D adventure mode.  For example, ponies set out to find a land safe from stratadons.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 27, 2019, 09:41:26 AM
I second Ivy as a G5 main character!

Yes, we are already two people! Let's get a petition going :lol: ;)
Heck, I would be so much more in favor of a reboot if they just took the old G2s and revamped their world. They had royalty ponies, magicians, ponies with glittery wings. All things already re-establshed in G4. So why not.

Ivy and Prince Firefly and their friends!

Sure. I'd be down for that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BubbleTea on March 04, 2019, 08:47:35 PM
I second Ivy as a G5 main character!

Count me in!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bladed on March 12, 2019, 10:35:18 AM
this is really random but i actually like the G4 fashion style pony wings lol... i know they're not "accurate" but i like how big and feathery they are. the g4.5 wings look a bit small to me for the size. i see so many people say theyre too big and weird shaped and cutting down the wings to look "normal" but i'm just here like... :D i like em!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 24, 2019, 10:16:29 PM
I'm personally not fond of the term my little pony mommy in the old commercials.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 25, 2019, 02:45:30 AM
I'm personally not fond of the term my little pony mommy in the old commercials.

I second this. *cringe*.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on March 25, 2019, 06:45:02 AM
I'm personally not fond of the term my little pony mommy in the old commercials.

I second this. *cringe*.



Me too. My favorite will always be the classic "My Little Pony (insert name of pony set)


"i'm a My Little Pony Mommy" isn't my favorite but it's better to me than "We're My Little Pony girls/Say 'love'  (Love!) if you love ponies:


Ponyfan

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 25, 2019, 06:56:08 AM
I'm personally not fond of the term my little pony mommy in the old commercials.

I second this. *cringe*.



Me too. My favorite will always be the classic "My Little Pony (insert name of pony set)


"i'm a My Little Pony Mommy" isn't my favorite but it's better to me than "We're My Little Pony girls/Say 'love'  (Love!) if you love ponies:


Ponyfan



I have a soft spot for the UK one that is totally poking fun and ends with Bow Tie in her 'birthday suit' xD.

Also, maybe I'm biased, but this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esdu3Apk7Rc

Even despite the nauseatingly enunciated accent, is still less grating than this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E8q-O0K2hc

On another note, how did the US get from this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkrloYNN7xQ
Which is a lovely commercial (despite the 'Sweet Tooth' name xD) to the horrible thing linked second above?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on March 25, 2019, 07:04:59 AM
I love the Bowtie "birthday suit" commercial. :) and the Party Ponies one is much better than the US "My Little Pony Mommy"

I wonder if that set was being planned/marketed right as Hasbro was switching the jingles so they made a commerical featuring each? I think this is the only set that has both types jingles in the commerical.


Ponyfan

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on March 25, 2019, 11:14:57 AM
"Birthday suit"?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BubbleTea on March 31, 2019, 09:28:42 PM
Quote
I have a soft spot for the UK one that is totally poking fun and ends with Bow Tie in her 'birthday suit' xD.

Also, maybe I'm biased, but this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esdu3Apk7Rc

Even despite the nauseatingly enunciated accent, is still less grating than this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E8q-O0K2hc

On another note, how did the US get from this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkrloYNN7xQ
Which is a lovely commercial (despite the 'Sweet Tooth' name xD) to the horrible thing linked second above?


Is it just me or has the pink hair already faded in this commercial?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RoseNoire on April 01, 2019, 05:15:40 AM
I think g1s are garbage.
Spoiler
:mrgreen:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 01, 2019, 06:04:12 AM
I think g1s are garbage.
Spoiler
:mrgreen:

Sadly probably some of them are....

^_^
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on April 01, 2019, 06:21:46 AM
I second Ivy as a G5 main character!

Count me in!

Me too!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on April 01, 2019, 06:29:13 AM
I forget if I said this but collectors pose reminds me of a tall hippo. 🤔
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 01, 2019, 07:13:51 AM
I forget if I said this but collectors pose reminds me of a tall hippo. 🤔

That made me laugh :D

I have never liked the Collector Pose much. I feel it particularly betrays Lemon Drop who is a showjumper and yet her legs are glued together like that. Unless she has springs fitted into her hooves, it's hard to see how she'd win any gymkhana, and Butterscotch likewise...

Would have rather seen LD at least in the (later) walking pose, because then at least she might be running between jumps, rather than examining her toes as she bounces along.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 01, 2019, 07:24:00 AM
I forget if I said this but collectors pose reminds me of a tall hippo. 🤔

That made me laugh :D

I have never liked the Collector Pose much. I feel it particularly betrays Lemon Drop who is a showjumper and yet her legs are glued together like that. Unless she has springs fitted into her hooves, it's hard to see how she'd win any gymkhana, and Butterscotch likewise...

Would have rather seen LD at least in the (later) walking pose, because then at least she might be running between jumps, rather than examining her toes as she bounces along.

I was about to say, she'd look great on the Sugarberry pose.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on April 01, 2019, 07:52:32 AM
I forget if I said this but collectors pose reminds me of a tall hippo. 🤔

That made me laugh :D

I have never liked the Collector Pose much. I feel it particularly betrays Lemon Drop who is a showjumper and yet her legs are glued together like that. Unless she has springs fitted into her hooves, it's hard to see how she'd win any gymkhana, and Butterscotch likewise...

Would have rather seen LD at least in the (later) walking pose, because then at least she might be running between jumps, rather than examining her toes as she bounces along.

It's my dad's fault. I asked him to look for the 25th anniversary ponies for me.. and he brought be back something else instead saying "I didn't want to get those, they looked like hippos". So now the seed had been planted in my mind. XD

As a kid, I just kinda thought they looked old and droopy...

You have a great point about LD. She certainly deserves a more dynamic pose.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 01, 2019, 03:18:36 PM
I forget if I said this but collectors pose reminds me of a tall hippo. 🤔

That made me laugh :D

I have never liked the Collector Pose much. I feel it particularly betrays Lemon Drop who is a showjumper and yet her legs are glued together like that. Unless she has springs fitted into her hooves, it's hard to see how she'd win any gymkhana, and Butterscotch likewise...

Would have rather seen LD at least in the (later) walking pose, because then at least she might be running between jumps, rather than examining her toes as she bounces along.


I just have to post the US Show Stable and UK Gromming Parlor commercials now. :biggrin:


US

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DdubMVwe0Y


UK This is acutally the Grooming Parlor comerical and not the Show Stable


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP2ov0YyKpE


As much as I love the US commericals I think some of the UK ones are better.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 01, 2019, 03:46:19 PM
I wish more early UK adverts had survived. Or if they have, people haven't posted them. I only know of those two from really early. Then there's the party pony one and the crimp & curl hair salon one on one of the vhs tapes...and...yeah. Any others that survive seem to be only the visuals with the audio from France.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kingluke on April 04, 2019, 02:04:17 AM
I think first tooth babies look kinda weird, But I also kinda like them?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on April 04, 2019, 10:45:29 AM
I forget if I said this but collectors pose reminds me of a tall hippo. 🤔

That made me laugh :D

I have never liked the Collector Pose much. I feel it particularly betrays Lemon Drop who is a showjumper and yet her legs are glued together like that. Unless she has springs fitted into her hooves, it's hard to see how she'd win any gymkhana, and Butterscotch likewise...

Would have rather seen LD at least in the (later) walking pose, because then at least she might be running between jumps, rather than examining her toes as she bounces along.

It's my dad's fault. I asked him to look for the 25th anniversary ponies for me.. and he brought be back something else instead saying "I didn't want to get those, they looked like hippos". So now the seed had been planted in my mind. XD

As a kid, I just kinda thought they looked old and droopy...

You have a great point about LD. She certainly deserves a more dynamic pose.
Fortunately, I think hippos are cute so this doesn't bother me. 

For the longest time I thought the Sweet Stuff pose was ugly.  It's still my least favorite.  Cupcake eventually changed my mind about it being ugly.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on April 06, 2019, 04:32:57 PM
I actually like the Bushwoolies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 07, 2019, 09:24:04 AM
I do too Space Pinto.

I wish Skydancer, Starshine and Medley were in more graceful poses. The Firefly pose is not my favorite and for the record, I'm only okay with the Surprise pose. Locket posed Medley, and Paradise posed Skydancer and Starshine woulda been so pretty.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 07, 2019, 09:55:30 AM
The Whizzer Pose/Paradise Pose is what the Firefly Pose wanted to be, I think. Same kind of dynamic "in flight" outline , but better-executed and can't be mistaken for a sitting pose. Plus the hooves are actually compatible with Pony Wear shoes, and is also friendlier to seating Megan. The Firefly Pose may be a classic, but it decidedly suffers from "first try syndrome." Same for the Collector Pose, which basically exists as a result of downscaling the original My Pretty Pony design (where the pose existed as a means of offsetting the overall large size by keeping the shelf footprint small) without immediately looking to the pose possibilities opened up by the smaller size.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on April 07, 2019, 02:54:23 PM
I most be one of the only people with a soft spot for the Firefly/Medley pose.  But Medley was my first pony and I loved her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 07, 2019, 02:56:00 PM
I'm not looking forward to seeing how they're gonna botch Grogar.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 07, 2019, 04:11:27 PM
I most be one of the only people with a soft spot for the Firefly/Medley pose.  But Medley was my first pony and I loved her.

Imagine, having Medley as a first pony O.O.

...I don't love the pose they're in but if it's Medley I forgive her everything. I am sad though that Firefly got a later pose update version and Medley never did. Medley was always way cooler than Firefly, but Firefly got all the attention. In the comics I can remember times when Medley had to clear up Firefly's mess.

...So yeah. Maybe my unpopular opinion is: Firefly is overrated. Medley is way better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 07, 2019, 08:39:22 PM
Sunset, I have a soft spot for the Firefly pose, but I won't deny it has its flaws.

To be fair, Taffeta, that updated Firefly was made as a pack-in for a tape release of the cartoon pilot.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on April 07, 2019, 10:08:03 PM
I never cared for the updated Firefly pose.  I preferred the original.  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 08, 2019, 01:15:02 AM
Sunset, I have a soft spot for the Firefly pose, but I won't deny it has its flaws.

To be fair, Taffeta, that updated Firefly was made as a pack-in for a tape release of the cartoon pilot.

Yeah, that's true, but I never understood why she got so much of the focus when overall she played less of a part in the animation for MLP than did some of the later more standard characters. The thing is my annoyance for Firefly doesn't really come from RaMC, though. She's fine in that. It's the idiot things she used to do in the comic, getting herself into stupid situations by not thinking them through, and then having to be rescued - at least once by Medley, and once I think by Tootsie...probably with Majesty's help. Even as a kid I thought she was a nusiance ;)

Don't get me wrong, I still like the pony Firefly. But she's probably my least favourite in the set. They were never sold here, despite all the stories, but I would have loved Medley as a kid. I never wanted Firefly, and I'll never see RaMC as "Firefly's Adventure."
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 08, 2019, 05:57:56 AM
I'm not looking forward to seeing how they're gonna botch Grogar.
I've got mixed feelings over this - I'm going to just have to remind myself it's not the same character if it all goes wrong like Tirek and The Smooze did, in my opinion.

I've been realising the hypocrisy in my own opinion here; I'm perfectly fine that the ponies don't match up to earlier versions of themselves (e.g. G3, G3.5 and G4 Rainbow Dash are three completely different ponies), because I see them as different characters, rather than a changed version of the same character.  However, I was more critical of the G1 villains changing to something that didn't fit them, especially as Tirek and The Smooze were really diluted in my eyes.

The reason I was more critical was because I viewed these as references, rather than new versions of the characters.  Maybe the intention was to create a new version of these villains, and only have their name be the thing that got left over?  Maybe G4 Tirek was never meant to be G1 Tirek in anyway, but rather a new Tirek for G4, and not, as I wanted, a direct reference to the G1 character?

So yeah, I think got my expectations up to high.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 08, 2019, 06:44:15 AM
I definitely think they were meant to be "Reimagined for G4" versions. And if you think about it, Tirac/Tirek in particular kinda had to be reimagined because his G1 schtick had already been used by Nightmare Moon.

brightberry, I definitely think Firefly's original pose fits her cartoon characterization better. I think she was given the update mainly because her original pose doesn't seat the Megan doll very well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 08, 2019, 07:45:31 AM
Sunset, I have a soft spot for the Firefly pose, but I won't deny it has its flaws.

To be fair, Taffeta, that updated Firefly was made as a pack-in for a tape release of the cartoon pilot.

Yeah, that's true, but I never understood why she got so much of the focus when overall she played less of a part in the animation for MLP than did some of the later more standard characters. The thing is my annoyance for Firefly doesn't really come from RaMC, though. She's fine in that. It's the idiot things she used to do in the comic, getting herself into stupid situations by not thinking them through, and then having to be rescued - at least once by Medley, and once I think by Tootsie...probably with Majesty's help. Even as a kid I thought she was a nusiance ;)

Don't get me wrong, I still like the pony Firefly. But she's probably my least favourite in the set. They were never sold here, despite all the stories, but I would have loved Medley as a kid. I never wanted Firefly, and I'll never see RaMC as "Firefly's Adventure."



I don't really see Firefly as the star of RaMC either, just one of the ponies on the quest to defeat Tirek and resuce their friends. I do feel that the adult ponies intinally cpatured by Tirek were "shortchanged" in a sense as most of them only have 1 or 2 lines. :lol: (although they spent most of the RaMC as dragons)

Firefly's comic personaility reminds of the the book "Lost in the Clouds" where she and Medley got lost in the sky and Moondancer had to use her horn to guide them back home.




Ponyfan
 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 08, 2019, 08:17:21 AM
The adventures that biased me against her forever were the eating of the contrary cake that led to lots of stress rescuing her...and when she got led astray by not following Medley's advice and ending up under the spell of some enchanted piper.

Medley in the latter story is probably the reason I love her so much. Poor, long-suffering, intelligent, talented, Medley. And her idiot friend.

...I had forgotten lost in the clouds, but yeah. That one is true to form as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 08, 2019, 08:26:38 AM
Contrary Cake?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 08, 2019, 08:35:07 AM
Contrary Cake?

If I remember right, Firefly ate some cake she shouldn't eat, and it made her behave in the opposite way from how she should do things, and she ended up in contrary town doing the opposite of what she was told and getting given things that weren't the same as she asked for. And...I think it's Tootsie and others - had to break the spell and convince her to come home, even though she doesn't recognise them and doesn't want to go.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on April 08, 2019, 02:02:36 PM
brightberry, I definitely think Firefly's original pose fits her cartoon characterization better. I think she was given the update mainly because her original pose doesn't seat the Megan doll very well.
I think it was more of a matter of convenience.  The new Firefly release didn't overlap with Megan & Sundance.  I remember them being over a year gone when the Firefly set was released. That's forever in kid years.  It's more likely that as the original Firefly pose hadn't been used in years, they went with a mold that was already prepped as it was cheaper. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 08, 2019, 03:41:29 PM
Contrary Cake?

If I remember right, Firefly ate some cake she shouldn't eat, and it made her behave in the opposite way from how she should do things, and she ended up in contrary town doing the opposite of what she was told and getting given things that weren't the same as she asked for. And...I think it's Tootsie and others - had to break the spell and convince her to come home, even though she doesn't recognise them and doesn't want to go.




I'll have to find that comic story and read it. :)


On the subject of the VHS tape released with movie Firefly I know the cardboard sleeve called it "Firefly's Adventure" but it was still called My Little Pony on the actual cartoon included?


Fun fact, on Firefly's Adventure advertising Tirrac is spelled Tearak :lol:



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 08, 2019, 03:50:08 PM
...Only a few steps away from Tea rack :)

@Ponyfan, LAW and I found it, it's in comic 47 and it's posted here.

http://www.ponylandpress.com/library/comics/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on April 09, 2019, 03:54:30 PM
...Only a few steps away from Tea rack :)

@Ponyfan, LAW and I found it, it's in comic 47 and it's posted here.

http://www.ponylandpress.com/library/comics/

Is that like a spice rack for tea :lol: I must say I agree with you about Firefly.

I'm not sure if I've said this already but I'm not a set completer and if I only like one or two ponies in a set that's all I will have.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on April 10, 2019, 10:27:51 AM
I most be one of the only people with a soft spot for the Firefly/Medley pose.  But Medley was my first pony and I loved her.
Firefly was one of my first two G1s, and Medley was one of my sister's first, so I'm nostalgic for that pose as well. Same with Majesty/Glory and their pose.
Oh and I recently completed my US Firefly pose collection. Sprinkles wasn't on purpose but I do like the rest.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 10, 2019, 10:43:47 AM
...Only a few steps away from Tea rack :)

@Ponyfan, LAW and I found it, it's in comic 47 and it's posted here.

http://www.ponylandpress.com/library/comics/



Poor Cherries Jubilee and Tootise. :lol:


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on April 10, 2019, 10:47:41 AM
I most be one of the only people with a soft spot for the Firefly/Medley pose.  But Medley was my first pony and I loved her.
Firefly was one of my first two G1s, and Medley was one of my sister's first, so I'm nostalgic for that pose as well. Same with Majesty/Glory and their pose.
Oh and I recently completed my US Firefly pose collection. Sprinkles wasn't on purpose but I do like the rest.
Firefly and Skydancer were both in my original herd.  I was completely enchanted with Skydancer and her rainbow hair.  It's funny that gimmick is hardly thought of as a gimmick any more.

For an unpopular opinion, I didn't want toys of characters that had been completely "fleshed out".  I really liked discovering who they were on my own.  I'm still less interested in collectables of characters from my favorite moves or TV shows.  Also, toys that didn't have a canon character suddenly getting one bothered me too.

 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on April 10, 2019, 11:48:24 AM

For an unpopular opinion, I didn't want toys of characters that had been completely "fleshed out".  I really liked discovering who they were on my own.  I'm still less interested in collectables of characters from my favorite moves or TV shows.  Also, toys that didn't have a canon character suddenly getting one bothered me too.

This was part of why I loved toys like MLP and Littlest Petshop as a kid. They could have whatever personality I chose, and there was no pressure to make them act a certain way, and LPS didn't even come with a name or gender.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 10, 2019, 03:00:38 PM
I definitely think they were meant to be "Reimagined for G4" versions. And if you think about it, Tirac/Tirek in particular kinda had to be reimagined because his G1 schtick had already been used by Nightmare Moon.
Yeah, and that, to me, ended up being a better call back to aspects of Rescue From Midnight Castle (regardless of whether it was intentional or not) than G4 Tirek did.

That being said, if it were up to me, I would have at least kept Tirek's ability to turn ponies and other animals into monsters, and had that be his goal rather than stealing attributes.  G4 Tirek is not a villain I can take seriously, and the main reason for that is because the ability they gave him means that one of the only things I can remember him doing is standing around with his mouth open.   
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 10, 2019, 05:07:02 PM
I definitely think they were meant to be "Reimagined for G4" versions. And if you think about it, Tirac/Tirek in particular kinda had to be reimagined because his G1 schtick had already been used by Nightmare Moon.
Yeah, and that, to me, ended up being a better call back to aspects of Rescue From Midnight Castle (regardless of whether it was intentional or not) than G4 Tirek did.

That being said, if it were up to me, I would have at least kept Tirek's ability to turn ponies and other animals into monsters, and had that be his goal rather than stealing attributes.  G4 Tirek is not a villain I can take seriously, and the main reason for that is because the ability they gave him means that one of the only things I can remember him doing is standing around with his mouth open.

 :lol: That last line got me!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on April 10, 2019, 06:43:52 PM
I definitely think they were meant to be "Reimagined for G4" versions. And if you think about it, Tirac/Tirek in particular kinda had to be reimagined because his G1 schtick had already been used by Nightmare Moon.
Yeah, and that, to me, ended up being a better call back to aspects of Rescue From Midnight Castle (regardless of whether it was intentional or not) than G4 Tirek did.

That being said, if it were up to me, I would have at least kept Tirek's ability to turn ponies and other animals into monsters, and had that be his goal rather than stealing attributes.  G4 Tirek is not a villain I can take seriously, and the main reason for that is because the ability they gave him means that one of the only things I can remember him doing is standing around with his mouth open.

 :lol: That last line got me!

Me too. Animation stills of err, "magic eating" Tirek look like a red baboon with an O-face.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 10, 2019, 07:13:38 PM
I definitely think they were meant to be "Reimagined for G4" versions. And if you think about it, Tirac/Tirek in particular kinda had to be reimagined because his G1 schtick had already been used by Nightmare Moon.
Yeah, and that, to me, ended up being a better call back to aspects of Rescue From Midnight Castle (regardless of whether it was intentional or not) than G4 Tirek did.

That being said, if it were up to me, I would have at least kept Tirek's ability to turn ponies and other animals into monsters, and had that be his goal rather than stealing attributes.  G4 Tirek is not a villain I can take seriously, and the main reason for that is because the ability they gave him means that one of the only things I can remember him doing is standing around with his mouth open.

 :lol: That last line got me!

Me too. Animation stills of err, "magic eating" Tirek look like a red baboon with an O-face.

:lmao:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on April 11, 2019, 01:29:57 AM
For an unpopular opinion, I didn't want toys of characters that had been completely "fleshed out".  I really liked discovering who they were on my own.  I'm still less interested in collectables of characters from my favorite moves or TV shows.  Also, toys that didn't have a canon character suddenly getting one bothered me too.

Same here! I much prefer to make up my own personalities for my toys, and I feel like that was....I don't know, easier/more encouraged in the earlier gens? Now everything is too closely based on the cartoon. Not that that has stopped me inventing my own personalities for my two Rainbow Dashes (Rainbow Dash: love the toys, can't stand her personality in FiM).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MerryAnvil on April 17, 2019, 08:11:12 AM
Princess Royal Purple and Princess Royal Pink have really started to appeal to me lately. I don't know why but I just adore them! I keep seeing them in lots and think about bidding on them, but the lots usually contain a lot of uncommon ponies and get bid up quick >u< I'll have to make a point of grabbing them sometime though!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on April 22, 2019, 08:56:45 PM
Okay, I know this one might be super unpopular, but I really need to get this off my chest. Sometimes I just believe that My Little Pony would have been much better off if Hasbro had just pulled the plug entirely after G3.5. There, I said it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on April 22, 2019, 09:58:45 PM
Okay, I know this one might be super unpopular, but I really need to get this off my chest. Sometimes I just believe that My Little Pony would have been much better off if Hasbro had just pulled the plug entirely after G3.5. There, I said it.
*before G3.5, if you're gonna go that route  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on April 23, 2019, 01:37:00 AM
I don’t like the Firefly pose because it doesn’t look right to me, I like it when ponies are standing on four legs not three or two (looking at you Truly Pose)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 26, 2019, 09:52:00 PM
I do not like open mouthed pose ponies, with the exception of DnWs. I can live with it, without fussing much, but I'm not crazy about it.

I like the Magical Scenes gimmick a lot, but I wish they'd used more then the usual characters and Fluttershy's moulded butterflies looked... like it needed to be medically removed, to put it politely. RD and Rarity's are great and I'm still kicking myself for not getting one at the dollar store to customize, because she has a thicker, fuller tail.  I also like the Flip n Flows gimmick, but have the same issue of them being limited to the boring awful mane suxx.



Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on April 27, 2019, 05:54:14 AM
Okay, I know this one might be super unpopular, but I really need to get this off my chest. Sometimes I just believe that My Little Pony would have been much better off if Hasbro had just pulled the plug entirely after G3.5. There, I said it.

I could accept that statement if you could explain why.

I feel like not liking g4 is one thing, but why should the brand of been stopped?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on April 27, 2019, 06:10:36 AM
This may be an unpopular opinion or just a mundane one but I believe Sunshower is Sweetberry and Starcatcher's love child.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on April 27, 2019, 07:16:10 AM
I could accept that statement if you could explain why.

I feel like not liking g4 is one thing, but why should the brand of been stopped?
It's just because of plenty of things that happened afterwards and cannot ever be reversed now. To me, 2000s was overall a much better time to be a fan of MLP compared to today.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 27, 2019, 07:31:02 AM
This may be an unpopular opinion or just a mundane one but I believe Sunshower is Sweetberry and Starcatcher's love child.

A sea pony is the love child of a Pegasus and an earth pony?  :blink: :what:

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on April 27, 2019, 07:57:43 AM
This may be an unpopular opinion or just a mundane one but I believe Sunshower is Sweetberry and Starcatcher's love child.

A sea pony is the love child of a Pegasus and an earth pony?  :blink: :what:

My bad, I should've specified. G3 Sunshower.

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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 27, 2019, 08:21:00 AM
Oh! :facepalm: I forgot about her completely. Oops.
 :redface:


I think that might be more in the realm of personal toy interactions then unpopular opinion though.  ^.^ ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 27, 2019, 09:16:30 AM
Oh! :facepalm: I forgot about her completely. Oops.
 :redface:


I think that might be more in the realm of personal toy interactions then unpopular opinion though.  ^.^ ;)

Although you know, the sea pony thing could work. They do have 'wings'...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on April 30, 2019, 12:33:07 AM
Idk if there's a personal toy interaction thread but I see Sweet Scoops being the mother of G3 Fizzy Pop, who's then the mother of Tempest.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Water Lily on April 30, 2019, 04:47:55 PM
I don't like the collectors Ponies or the original ponies so to say I mean yeah they're not bad and of course they are the original but they're not really that great they lack originality and uniqueness
I have to agree on Rapunzel Pony I don't see what the big deal is unless she was just limited number or something otherwise she's plain and there's really nothing that speaks to me about her
I love G3 not g 3.5 G3 the ponies look like ponies but yet they still have a creativeness to them Victoria were exceptional and there were a lot of different cronies and types of ponies to choose from
I don't like the G1 plush ponies they are creepy looking
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shadowperla on April 30, 2019, 07:30:25 PM
G2 will be perfect if not for hooves. All of the faces are cute! And I like how boy and girl are not separated unless by history.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 01, 2019, 03:58:10 AM
Speaking of Rapunzel... How DID she become so expensive? Is there a story behind it?

Anyway... I love the G4 “All About” line with the murals printed on the display side. They’re some of the most original toys G4 has produced, IMO. I remember the majority of people I saw talking about them when they first showed up were pretty “meh” about the whole thing, though (probably in part because of the new 4.5 molds). Ah well, more for me! XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 01, 2019, 05:07:31 AM
Speaking of Rapunzel... How DID she become so expensive? Is there a story behind it?


I put this down to fandom status seeking. Somehow, rather like Mimic, she became a "must have" pony in the minds of people, thus the price escalated.

When I first came online though she was already expensive. I think in the late 1990s she sold around $150-200. Mine, I know, cost the original person who had her $80, but she's damaged, she's lost most of the length of her tail. I received her in a trade for some rare UK stuff which, at the time, sold for as much or more as Rapunzel, but at some point after that she rocketed whereas the other prices stabilised.

So like Mimic, her price has been a problem for a long time. But something happened at some point between to make it escalate so much. And I can only put it down to a few collectors being obsessed with getting her and thus bidding her up and up until that became the benchmark.

It's ridiculous really. She's fine, but she's not that thrilling. Of course, I would LOVE to have one with all the flowing locks in the tail as that's her chief crowning feature. But given that even with that flaw I wouldn't be able to afford her today, I'm just going to stick with the one I have and be glad of it. I much much much prefer Sweet Scoops, she's a lot classier - and I think, rarer - but Rapunzel is the fad favourite, so up and up her price goes...

On this note, to add an unpopular opinion - I think spending ridiculous amounts of money on ponies is ridiculous. Especially when you get into thousands. No piece of plastic to me is worth the same as a month's rent.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 01, 2019, 05:35:25 AM
The Spring themed holiday ponies, with a couple exceptions, are my least favorite of the G3 Holiday ponies.

The Spring Basket playset ponies are cute, but most of them don't really invoke springtime to me.

I don't like the white versions or alt-versions of the G1 Birthflowers.

I think half of the Peek-a-boo set is boring and kinda awful.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on May 01, 2019, 05:37:51 AM
On this note, to add an unpopular opinion - I think spending ridiculous amounts of money on ponies is ridiculous. Especially when you get into thousands. No piece of plastic to me is worth the same as a month's rent.
Money is relative, if someone is a professional web developer without a family to support, spending four figure amounts on something they truly enjoy is not such a big deal.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 01, 2019, 05:38:58 AM
I only like 4 1/2 of the G3 Birthstones, December, August, May and June. I'd like April more, if her symbol didn't look like a giant eyeball. July Jubilee should have been more summery. An oddity considering they have a slew of amazing summertime ponies made. February was dull and disappointing, which I suppose at least matches my birth month. But again, they had some amazing Valentine ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on May 01, 2019, 06:37:55 AM
Speaking of Rapunzel... How DID she become so expensive? Is there a story behind it?


I put this down to fandom status seeking. Somehow, rather like Mimic, she became a "must have" pony in the minds of people, thus the price escalated.

When I first came online though she was already expensive. I think in the late 1990s she sold around $150-200. Mine, I know, cost the original person who had her $80, but she's damaged, she's lost most of the length of her tail. I received her in a trade for some rare UK stuff which, at the time, sold for as much or more as Rapunzel, but at some point after that she rocketed whereas the other prices stabilised.

So like Mimic, her price has been a problem for a long time. But something happened at some point between to make it escalate so much. And I can only put it down to a few collectors being obsessed with getting her and thus bidding her up and up until that became the benchmark.

It's ridiculous really. She's fine, but she's not that thrilling. Of course, I would LOVE to have one with all the flowing locks in the tail as that's her chief crowning feature. But given that even with that flaw I wouldn't be able to afford her today, I'm just going to stick with the one I have and be glad of it. I much much much prefer Sweet Scoops, she's a lot classier - and I think, rarer - but Rapunzel is the fad favourite, so up and up her price goes...

On this note, to add an unpopular opinion - I think spending ridiculous amounts of money on ponies is ridiculous. Especially when you get into thousands. No piece of plastic to me is worth the same as a month's rent.




I totally agree about Rapunzel. I wouldn't mind having her in my pony herd but I know I will never be able to afford her asking price and can't bring myself to spend that kind of money on a pony.  It's the same reason that I'll probably never be able to replace the two childhood Petite Ponies because I can't bring myself to pay $40-$50 for a pony that's the size of a quarter.


I think Glittering Gem is prettier than Rapuznel even with the jewel in her forehead which I'm usually not a fan of. I think Sweet Scoops is rarer than Rapunzel.


 Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 01, 2019, 07:59:06 AM
Rapunzel is pretty... But to me, she seems like a less-pretty version of Goldilocks. I guess that’s the popularity of the traditional G1 body style vs. the SHS style, though. :shrug: Now there’s an unpopular pony opinion, lol! XD

On that note... Is collector preference the only thing that really sets Rapunzel apart from, say, Goldilocks? They were both fairy tale themed mail order ponies. I had always assumed Rapunzel must have had a super-limited release to warrant the prices she commands.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on May 01, 2019, 09:26:15 AM
G2 will be perfect if not for hooves. All of the faces are cute! And I like how boy and girl are not separated unless by history.
Despite their lack of poses or variety of interesting gimmicks, I agree. G2 was the cutest in general, imo.

Also, idk if unpopular or just not talked about, but I see G2 as teenagers while G1 adults are in their 30s and G3 adults are in their 20s.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on May 01, 2019, 01:25:15 PM
On this note, to add an unpopular opinion - I think spending ridiculous amounts of money on ponies is ridiculous. Especially when you get into thousands. No piece of plastic to me is worth the same as a month's rent.
Money is relative, if someone is a professional web developer without a family to support, spending four figure amounts on something they truly enjoy is not such a big deal.
I guess on that note, it also means that the seller got a lot of money to pay the rent/other bills with.  I think if one person has so much money to spare, its probably better for everyone to spend it rather than hoard it.  On the other hand, humanity is incredibly inefficient at doing anything that actually promotes the greater good.  No matter how we look at it, it's ultimately frustrating.


I think G2s are cute but I would have loved their faces to be more defined like Sweetheart sisters. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 02, 2019, 01:57:07 AM

On this note, to add an unpopular opinion - I think spending ridiculous amounts of money on ponies is ridiculous. Especially when you get into thousands. No piece of plastic to me is worth the same as a month's rent.
Money is relative, if someone is a professional web developer without a family to support, spending four figure amounts on something they truly enjoy is not such a big deal.
I guess on that note, it also means that the seller got a lot of money to pay the rent/other bills with.  I think if one person has so much money to spare, its probably better for everyone to spend it rather than hoard it.  On the other hand, humanity is incredibly inefficient at doing anything that actually promotes the greater good.  No matter how we look at it, it's ultimately frustrating.

I still maintain that the price is ridiculous. Yeah, you can argue that people can spend their money how they like, and they can, and that's fine. But it's my personal opinion - as a thirty plus year collector of MLP, on and off - that it's ridiculous. Knowing the value of money is an important life skill. Being rich doesn't for me excuse ignoring that - in the world we live in, unfortunately, nothing is for certain.

Besides, a lot of people spend silly money on ponies as 'an investment' and then insist on reselling the ponies for equally silly money to 'recoup their investment'. And ponies are toys, not investments. And then there's the other thing - the expectation of that money and the 'payment plan' situation which is asking for trouble because it encourages people who don't have enough money to put themselves in debt to someone else.

All of that ruins MLP for me.

And as a feed on from that - I also hate when people decide to buy ponies because they're 'rare and sought after' rather than just buying the ones they like most. I remember some years back someone gave advice to a new collector that they should focus on Mimic and Crumpet and others because they're 'sought after'...I hate that. Pick and collect the ponies you like, not the ponies that will impress other people if you own them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on May 02, 2019, 07:11:40 AM
I have a similar opinion, that I'm not into collecting for the sake of completeness. There are sets that I like and would like to own all the ponies in that set (Twinkle Eyes and Rainbow Curls for example), but if I want, say, Tabby, I don't feel obligated to buy Tossles or Romper.

There are collectors out there that think bigger is better and are willing to spend the money on any pony they don't already have, buying absolutely everything regardless or the quality or if they like the character, but I only collect what I like. I'll pass up a pony I don't have any strong opinion on and I rarely regret it.

Post Merge: May 02, 2019, 07:17:48 AM


And as a feed on from that - I also hate when people decide to buy ponies because they're 'rare and sought after' rather than just buying the ones they like most. I remember some years back someone gave advice to a new collector that they should focus on Mimic and Crumpet and others because they're 'sought after'...I hate that. Pick and collect the ponies you like, not the ponies that will impress other people if you own them.

I just read this, yeah! To be fair I like Mimic, Oakley, most Mountain Boys, G4 Star Swirl, whoever. There are a lot of rare ponies I do like. But Crumpet is very plain (though I guess she's yellow, huh), Rapunzel is Golidlocks 2.0, a lot of Greek ponies I've seen for sale... there's probably a lot of "boring" rare ponies out there that I could list.

How many people have you seen buy Mimic/want to buy because of her rarity and turn around to say "I don't like her colours"? :silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 02, 2019, 07:23:10 AM
I am a g1 completionist and I won't deny it...but not at any cost. Which is why after 20 years I still don't have sugarcake. If I was collecting afresh now I would be more selective as now ponies are expensive.

Mimic is one of my favourites and I feel she is ruined by the people who buy her for status reasons.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on May 02, 2019, 07:43:38 AM
I'm not a fan of Mimic so the only way I will ever own her is if I find her for a steal at a garage sale or something and even then I think I would trade/sell her to someone that would love her more than I would. 

I have also seen people who bragged about owning Mimic only to turn around and say something like "Well, I don't like her but I just had to have her because owning her means I'm a real collector."  I totally agree with everyone that said no one should get a pony just because they want to have the "honor" of owning a really sought after pony.



I have some of the MOs on my wishlist that I'd love to own but I'm pretty sure they will always remain out of my price range. 


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on May 02, 2019, 08:47:41 AM
I think it's alright for people to spend those prices on Rapunzel, some Nirvanas, etc as long as they go about it in a smart way. Like if they really like the pony in question and legitimately like them for their design or whatever (as opposed to just wanting a pony because it's rare and/or sought after which I agree is silly), then I don't really see a problem in them saving up for that pony as long as it's money they would have spent on ponies or other similar hobbies anyway, like if they save up for one pricey pony they want instead of spending the same amount on a lot of cheaper ponies. I think that's fine.

There are some more sought after ponies that are on my wishlist, but it's not because they're sought after, it's because I just genuinely love their designs, or at the very least love the gimmick of the set they're in and wish to complete the set. Like, I adore Mimic's color scheme and really want to save for her someday when I'm able to. I think she's a really pretty pony and I just love her colors, don't really want her for being sought after. I just like her. Same goes for the more pricey of the Pony Friends (Pony Friends is my absolute favorite set, I want them all), and the more pricey So Softs (another set I really like, want to complete them as well). I just like these ponies' designs, gimmicks, etc. If Rapunzel wasn't so crazy high I'd maybe go after her but over $800 at the moment sounds like waaaay too much for me to have the patience to save for, as much as I do love ponies with long hair.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 02, 2019, 08:51:33 AM
I’ve had Oakley for years and only recently learned she was especially valuable. XD I bought her in a huge lot that also included Cuteasaurus, so I guess I got her for a steal... Both are minty, too. :blink:

As for Mimic... I don’t have her, but she is high on my wishlist because I genuinely like her. There was an entire episode of the original cartoon series based around her (which I think contributes to her popularity), and I really love the parrot theme and colors. I don’t have a problem paying that much for a vintage toy—I’ve certainly paid much more for Pullips and SDCC/LE toys of various types. However, I can’t fathom people who would shell out huge amounts for a pony they don’t even really like. :/ Completionism I get, but MLPs as status symbols? :blink: Seems a bit silly to me.

Ah well. There are people who will pay $10,000 for a designer handbag, so... I guess rare MLPs are like a “niche” status symbol, lol.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on May 02, 2019, 09:01:02 AM
I rather do myself a custom of Mimic as to not pay the ridiculous prices people are asking for her, the same goes for the Mountain Boy Ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 02, 2019, 09:07:22 AM
I don't quite get Sweet Scoops's appeal. I do like a lot of the MO ponies that fetch higher prices, but she's one I'll just skip unless I thrift find her or get really into completion. What with student loans in the upcoming years, I doubt I'll even be able to afford her.  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sky_Rocket_Sammie on May 02, 2019, 09:08:49 AM
I only want Mimic because I had the chance to buy her. When I was a kid and had the “you can only pick one” Which has driven most of my collecting. Recreating my childhood herd and the ones that got away.

Clickbait articles that play to “if you have/find this toy
you will or could be rich” it gives folks the wrong impression and annoys me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on May 02, 2019, 09:13:16 AM
I don't quite get Sweet Scoops's appeal. I do like a lot of the MO ponies that fetch higher prices, but she's one I'll just skip unless I thrift find her or get really into completion. What with student loans in the upcoming years, I doubt I'll even be able to afford her.  :P

Yeah, Sweet Scoop's design doesn't feel very interesting to me? I'd get her if I somehow found her in the wild or someone for some reason offered her to me for cheap but she's not one I ever plan on seeking out. She looks too similar to Sherbet who I already have.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 02, 2019, 09:16:45 AM
Wow, didn't expect to open such a debate!

I also had Mimic before I knew anything about pony rarity. She was my first trade from the US and the trader just sent ger to me in advance of her coming to visit family here...we did a big in person trade but she must have trusted me o.o.

I say it has ruined her because now, as this thread demonstrates, people who genuinely like her end up having to justify it :/.

As for saving up, I guess so. But I saved up for my postgrad education and if I saved up that kind of amount I would rather spend it on going back to Japan or something. I could never look at a pony in my collection and be happy knowing I spent insane money on her.

Crumpet is the only SS I don't have. When sister and I started trading we were kids trading carboot finds for YS ponies and we split sets between us. I really like Crumpet but she is on naynie's list. So I will never have her because she is too much money to me now.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on May 02, 2019, 09:50:13 AM
As far as financial responsibility, to me, there's no difference in spending $200 for 1 pony (saving $3.80 a week for a year) and $10 each for 20 ponies (spread through out a year).

To my frugal mind, that's still $200 spent on a hobby.

I say that because I've always looked at pony collections as a whole -- rather then focus on individual prices.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on May 02, 2019, 10:40:54 AM
I don't fault anyone who wants/owns a sought after pony as long as they genuinely want/love the pony for the joy of owning them and not just as a status symbol.


When I first got in to MLP as an adult I was disappointed to learn that the only SS I was really wanted to add to my collection was one of the most sought after and had a higher price tag than the others. I wanted a SS Twilight to replace the one pony that I was never allowed to bring home from my grandma's  house. My childhood Twilight disappeared from my grandparents home at one point (I'm pretty sure my aunt threw her away not realizing she belonged to me) I was finally able to replace her so SS Twilight is special to me.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on May 02, 2019, 02:30:56 PM
I don't quite get Sweet Scoops's appeal. I do like a lot of the MO ponies that fetch higher prices, but she's one I'll just skip unless I thrift find her or get really into completion. What with student loans in the upcoming years, I doubt I'll even be able to afford her.  :P

Ditto!

Certain ponies just don't do it for me, others do.

So ponies like Honeycomb, who is quite easy to get here in the UK (although getting more pricey) I just love and will place an opportunistic low bid here and there (and win!).
Then there is  the much more expensive Nightglider - oh, what a beautiful design - I just had to have her in my collection, not for status but because she is so pretty! Same for greeny Buttons, such lovely colours, but eek her price is getting more crazy too.
Mimic - who intrigued me with her unusual body colour - I ended up customising a very baity Majesty into one, and that satisfies me  :P nope, not shelling out over £100 for a "real" Mimic  :cool:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 02, 2019, 05:31:16 PM
I don't quite get Sweet Scoops's appeal. I do like a lot of the MO ponies that fetch higher prices, but she's one I'll just skip unless I thrift find her or get really into completion. What with student loans in the upcoming years, I doubt I'll even be able to afford her.  :P

Ditto!

Certain ponies just don't do it for me, others do.

So ponies like Honeycomb, who is quite easy to get here in the UK (although getting more pricey) I just love and will place an opportunistic low bid here and there (and win!).
Then there is  the much more expensive Nightglider - oh, what a beautiful design - I just had to have her in my collection, not for status but because she is so pretty! Same for greeny Buttons, such lovely colours, but eek her price is getting more crazy too.
Mimic - who intrigued me with her unusual body colour - I ended up customising a very baity Majesty into one, and that satisfies me  :P nope, not shelling out over £100 for a "real" Mimic  :cool:

I think both of these comments epitomise for me the best way to collect.

Although I love Sweet Scoops. And I was very lucky in that I bought mine with her charm for a great price from a good friend who held her for me for ages and did me a deal. But I love how her symbol reminds me of a scratch and sniff book I had as a kid, but she's not scented.

And you know, I really don't like Sundae Bests. They're super common - when ponies showed up at boot sales I used to have so many doubles I'd end up sending them as freebie stowaways to people xD and Sorbet Surprise/Sherbet is the least offensive scentwise of that set, but they all look odd and deformed to me. If they were super rare and expensive I'd pretend they didn't exist. I kind of do that with MO Sprinkles. I don't care enough about her to pay more than $10 for her xD.

...I have found Mimic at a carboot sale in the UK. I feel like if I can fluke find her in a country she wasn't sold, she can't be that rare overall. So my opinion of her rarity/price has been severely coloured by that xD. I think I've had 3 Mimics overall over the years, cos I know I had one in an ebay lot as well turn up once. I've found more Mimics in the wild in the UK than Medley or Powder...who I've never seen here, and yet US people write them off as $5 ponies.

I'm a completionist, but I won't pay over the odds to complete a set. I maybe benefitted from carboot ponies when I started out, so didn't have to pick and choose - but I know if I was starting now I would be more picky and only shell out on ponies I like. And then not stupid money. I really want baby sugarcake, but I couldn't live with spending $300-$500 on any pony.

I think Mimic is love/hate because she's unusual. I really love unusual colour ponies. The pink ones in sets have to have a really nice mix of colours to attract me, or some character thing. So I guess this is my new unpopular opinion. Rare and unusual colour schemes or striking colour schemes hold more appeal for me than the bland pinks that Hasbro seem to think kids want :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on May 03, 2019, 01:06:24 PM
If a pony is out of my price range ($20-30 max usually) then I won't even consider wanting them usually. Cutesaurus is the exception but only for a great deal. The only reason I wouls want Mimic is for my friend who loves parrots.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 03, 2019, 09:16:12 PM
Unpopular opinion: I really loved having human characters in G1 My Little Pony. I’ve always wished that later generations had incorporated Megan/Molly/Danny characters of some kind.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on May 04, 2019, 01:48:24 AM
Unpopular opinion: I really loved having human characters in G1 My Little Pony. I’ve always wished that later generations had incorporated Megan/Molly/Danny characters of some kind.
I actually loved it too, I always found it cute how they would give them rides on their backs and all!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on May 04, 2019, 02:33:59 AM
Unpopular opinion: I really loved having human characters in G1 My Little Pony. I’ve always wished that later generations had incorporated Megan/Molly/Danny characters of some kind.

I loved this concept as a kid because I was often daydreaming about being a Chosen One, getting transported into a fantasy world and getting to be part of the action. Neverending Story was my favorite childhood book.

Human characters can work when done right. Sadly, people seem to be very against the idea of humans in MLP these days. I don't know... I could live without them. Especially when done in the EqG style (creepy proportions and the pastel colors make no sense). But if they brought in another (or a few) regular kids who enter the pony world for a while it could be interesting! It would make the pony world even more magical, like a different dimension.

I am ready to let Equestria Girls go. I guess they won't abandon the concept altogether but I just don't like how EqG is always tied to MLP yet is so mundane and bland. The ponies can have an adventure in a faraway land - the girls go on a school trip. I wish Hasbro would separate the franchises and just make a Magical Girl line that isn't supposed to be MLP in human costume.
They could just keep all the character tropes and color coding. Magical Girls are not exactly hard to sell.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 04, 2019, 05:04:51 AM
I guess this is gonna be unpopular then, but I like EqG much more than FIM. Even though I completely concede that the wider plots in the EqG specials are predictable and mostly the same plot recycled, I feel like the character development makes up for it. In the three seasons of FIM I watched I didn't see any character development (except Luna who flipped magically from being scary to being nice but awkward pretty much overnight...). But Sunset Shimmer in the EqG has evolved as a character. And that makes the whole thing - even the backup M6 - much easier for me to stomach.

I also really like the old dolls. They look so silly and geeky and weird that I just love them XD. The newer ones are fine but I still can't leave the old EqG dolls at carboot sales or in charity shops if I know I don't have them xD.

...I guess I'm just weird.

But as a kid I hated megan. I was super jealous she got to go to ponyland, so actively avoided asking for her and sundance. I basically shunned Sundance because I couldn't get her without the doll ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 04, 2019, 06:33:03 AM
I loved this concept as a kid because I was often daydreaming about being a Chosen One, getting transported into a fantasy world and getting to be part of the action. Neverending Story was my favorite childhood book.

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This exactly! That was my favorite kind of storyline as a child. ^_^

As for Equestria Girls, I doubt the franchise could survive without the characters/names/history of MLP. I don’t care much for the mundane story elements (school, sports, the aforementioned field trips...), but I like the general idea of parallel-dimension-human-versions-of-magical-ponies, lol. I think my childhood nostalgia goes straight to thoughts of the Unicorn turning into Lady Amalthea in The Last Unicorn, which I used to watch over and over again. As a kid, I would have just ignored the EQG fiction and made up my own epic, high fantasy adventures for the dolls. Actually... that’s still kind of what I do in my head canon. XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 04, 2019, 06:42:39 AM
EqG also inherited the mantle of Jem, hence Rainbow Rocks. I figure Hasbro decided it was safer to throw that franchise into the more stable MLP one than try to reboot it on its own.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Nemesis on May 04, 2019, 06:49:34 AM
Taffeta: Awwww... It’s kind of adorable that your childhood self was aggressively jealous of Megan. X3 I used to just pretend I WAS Megan, lol. I think that’s probably why the writers included her (and Molly and Danny) in the franchise to begin with—so that kids would have a “proxy” in Ponyland. They seem to have gotten the opposite reaction from your poor, younger self though. *hugs*

The pseudo-Jem revival for Rainbow Rocks WAS pretty awesome! Definitely not a doll line I ever thought was going to exist, lol.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on May 04, 2019, 06:56:14 AM



I like the Dazzlelings songs better in RR than Twilight's and her friends.


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on May 04, 2019, 07:05:40 AM
I'm not really interested in the cartoons or anything, but I LOVE the original EQG dolls!!! :lovey: Took me a while to warm up to them, but once I did, I was hooked. :p Can't stand the new ones, though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 04, 2019, 09:01:17 AM
Taffeta: Awwww... It’s kind of adorable that your childhood self was aggressively jealous of Megan. X3

Yeah :D Thankfully she was rarely in the comics. Five year old me passionately believed ponyland was over the rainbow and deeply resented that Megan got to visit it when I didn't. Six or seven year old me realised that maybe there wasn't really a ponyland...but I never really forgave Megan, even though by then I realised she was also fictional :D

I wasn't a big doll person as a kid but I do wonder if I would have been less hostile to TAF Megan and Sundance if we had had that set - as it would've been on sale after I realised ponyland wasn't real (xD) - but we never had any more Megan and Sundance sets after I was 5, so we'll never know.

I have the dolls now, but I admit they are rather shoved away in the cupboard. I do adore Megan and Sundance wear though. :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on May 04, 2019, 09:54:08 AM
I loved this concept as a kid because I was often daydreaming about being a Chosen One, getting transported into a fantasy world and getting to be part of the action.
I honestly think that this was the point of Megan (and later her siblings) in the show, like it was meant to make us imagine that we could be the next one who gets taken to Ponyland, and hang out with our new ponyfriends.

I don't mind The Williams kids, but at least one other has said, they got it backwards with who is guiding who - Megan basically looked after the ponies, when they should have been guiding her through their world.

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I wish Hasbro would separate the franchises and just make a Magical Girl line that isn't supposed to be MLP in human costume.
They could just keep all the character tropes and color coding. Magical Girls are not exactly hard to sell.
This has been my opinion for a while - they should have just made it a separate toyline/cartoon series, they didn't need to make it a My Little Pony spin-off, it was like they were scared that no one would like it unless it was vaguely pony related.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 04, 2019, 10:03:30 AM
I think it is the opposite. They moved deliberately away from Jem reboot to put the concept into mlp because barbie successfully killed jem in the eighties and at the time eqg came out MH were top of their game. To compete Hasbro connected some of the Jem ideas to mlp which was a franchise less easy to demolish.

It upset the Jem community at the time though...the battle of the bands setup at the end of RR is so obviously inspired by the first clash of Jem and the Misfits...

If it was just magical girl they would not need to be in a band.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on May 04, 2019, 10:37:22 AM
If it was just magical girl they would not need to be in a band.

That band thing took form in the second movie and then they just carried on with it because teen girls can't be heroes of Humans...tria, or what ever their mirror world is called. But yeah, as much as I liked Rainbow Rocks I also thought "yup, that's Jem. Why is there no actual Jem?".

There are a few Magical Girl franchises that tried it with the band theme, tho. Just sticking with Western ones, Loli Rock and Star Darlings come to mind. Or the Japanese OG - the Starlights from Sailor Moon who disguised themselves as a popular boy band  :lol: I am sure there is more with music stuff but I am not that well versed in current anime. Anyhoo, they could be a band of magical girls in a new fantasy world inspired by Equestria. Like, have unicorns roam around and through their music they harness the unicorn magic. Whatevs, I just don't want to see their tiny arms anymore once we roll into G5 :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 04, 2019, 01:37:02 PM
Haha xD
I think the reason I am fine with EqG is that I don't like FIM. So it doesn't jar me at all because for me FIM is a non-thing and they kind of then stand alone? Albeit the most recent special had them running through Twilight's castle so that was a bit interesting. Even so, I admit it's all for love of Sunset Shimmer on my part :)

I think the band probably is what you said - except they only use it to be 'famous' sporadically. I think it's more a thing to keep them all gelled together as they have so little actually in common as characters otherwise. It definitely began with Jem for Rainbow Rocks but I remember the Jem community making the connection before EqG came out. The old Jem fandom list I was a member of which has now gone had strong connections with people involved in Jem and with Hasbro at one time or another, so I guess there was a reason why that link was made - but I don't know what it was. Just that it was a big topic of conversation there before Rainbow Rocks.

I would be happy to see them go in G5 if it means G5 have a new cast. I am pretty cool with things ending at the end of generations - what I am afraid of is being stuck with pinkie pie forever now. And if it meant getting rid of her for all eternity, I would happily abandon EqG tomorrow :)

(So long as I can keep my sunset dolls. One of them is very good at holding my to do lists on my desk).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on May 05, 2019, 09:12:20 AM
I think the reason I am fine with EqG is that I don't like FIM. So it doesn't jar me at all because for me FIM is a non-thing and they kind of then stand alone? Albeit the most recent special had them running through Twilight's castle so that was a bit interesting. Even so, I admit it's all for love of Sunset Shimmer on my part :)
I never liked EqG but TBH I think it's much better than FiM because at least Hasbro is honest here about giving their audience lanky big-eyed animesque schoolgirls without trying to disguise them as ponies :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 05, 2019, 11:00:15 AM
I think the reason I am fine with EqG is that I don't like FIM. So it doesn't jar me at all because for me FIM is a non-thing and they kind of then stand alone? Albeit the most recent special had them running through Twilight's castle so that was a bit interesting. Even so, I admit it's all for love of Sunset Shimmer on my part :)
I never liked EqG but TBH I think it's much better than FiM because at least Hasbro is honest here about giving their audience lanky big-eyed animesque schoolgirls without trying to disguise them as ponies :P

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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 05, 2019, 01:09:44 PM
I think the reason I am fine with EqG is that I don't like FIM. So it doesn't jar me at all because for me FIM is a non-thing and they kind of then stand alone? Albeit the most recent special had them running through Twilight's castle so that was a bit interesting. Even so, I admit it's all for love of Sunset Shimmer on my part :)
I never liked EqG but TBH I think it's much better than FiM because at least Hasbro is honest here about giving their audience lanky big-eyed animesque schoolgirls without trying to disguise them as ponies :P

This is also true!

I should also clarify my standards a bit here. For anyone familiar with Jem, one of my favourite episodes is the ShangriLa one. It's complete nonsense. Jem and the Holograms go hunting in the himalayas for the secret music of ShangriLa (!?!) and the misfits go to stop them, get poisoned by brambles, saved by a yeti...and yeah. On top of which the animation is extremely weak in that episode which makes it doubly hilarious. All of it is totally stupid given that this is, essentially, a 'real world' setting, for all Synergy is mad tech for the eighties.

But in seriousness, though the plot is terrible, the animation is terrible, and it's so bad it's laughable...it contains some of the absolute best character moments between the Misfits of the whole series. And as a Misfit fan, I totally lap that stuff up.

...So on balance, EqG is ridiculous, repetitive, unbelievable...and full of cliches. And at one point they also tell the audience that it's better to have the most popular people chosen for stuff rather than a meritocracy, which I don't think is the real point...?

I love EqG entirely for the character development of first Sunset and then SciTwi. The plots can be stupid. The support cast predictable. I don't care. And most of the music by the Rainbooms also sucks. (But then so do some of Jem's, including the ShangriLa song). But the character play between Sunset and SciTwi in Everfree and Sunset and the band in Rainbow Rocks appeals to me <3. Sometimes the little moments make up for the big hot mess...

...Is that an unpopular opinion? I like EqG even though I think it has rubbish plotlines?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 23, 2019, 03:35:28 PM
Any merchandise that is Mane Six is not new and I don't care who thinks I'm in the wrong. I'm starting to get to the point where I hate this brand. It went from amazing to awful in the space of one generation. Why Hasbro is so bent on killing this once amazing beloved franchise is beyond me?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 23, 2019, 04:19:53 PM
Any merchandise that is Mane Six is not new and I don't care who thinks I'm in the wrong. I'm starting to get to the point where I hate this brand. It went from amazing to awful in the space of one generation. Why Hasbro is so bent on killing this once amazing beloved franchise is beyond me?


If G5 is the same as G4 but with frills, the franchise is dead. *shrugs*.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 23, 2019, 04:23:21 PM
Any merchandise that is Mane Six is not new and I don't care who thinks I'm in the wrong. I'm starting to get to the point where I hate this brand. It went from amazing to awful in the space of one generation. Why Hasbro is so bent on killing this once amazing beloved franchise is beyond me?


If G5 is the same as G4 but with frills, the franchise is dead. *shrugs*.

Yes. It would be a shame because that would likely mean the end of the Basic Fun line. It would also be a relief because it would mean the end of this soulless generation.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on May 24, 2019, 09:58:15 AM
Hate the Dancing Butterfly Pose because they just look wrong
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on May 24, 2019, 12:30:55 PM
I don't like the Dancing Butterflies pose either. It's too easy to tip over, and the way she twists her body, her hair ends up covering up her symbol.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 24, 2019, 01:49:48 PM
I don't like the Dancing Butterflies pose either. It's too easy to tip over, and the way she twists her body, her hair ends up covering up her symbol.

I had Dancing Butterflies as a kid (and my friend had Locket). And I always thought how beautiful they both looked to me in that tip toe dancing kind of pose. I guess I can see the problems with the tipping though.  Just those two ponies have such nice designs (and Princess Pearl as well, another one in that pose that I love). It's interesting how the 1987 poses get such divided opinions. I like all of them though :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on May 25, 2019, 05:18:06 AM
I love the Dancing Butterflies pose. :)  A lot of my favorite ponies are in that pose. I'm not fond of the Moodancer pose.



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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on May 25, 2019, 07:48:28 AM
I like how the Dancing Butterflies poses looks, but I wish it didn't block the ponies' symbols so much if you want to have their hair flow down on their display side. I wish the pose would let me show off their hair color and symbol. :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on May 28, 2019, 01:19:59 PM
I actually liked the Mane 6. I'm probably one of the few people who were okay with multiple variations of the Mane 6. My biggest issue was when they would leave out one or two characters for some other random character.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on May 28, 2019, 03:05:55 PM
I actually liked the Mane 6. I'm probably one of the few people who were okay with multiple variations of the Mane 6. My biggest issue was when they would leave out one or two characters for some other random character.

The problem is less so that the Mane 6 get multiple variations, and more so that Hasbro takes it about as extreme as they possibly can. I mean yes, they're the main characters of FiM, it's natural they'd get rereleases in the toyline. But we really do not need like five different Pinkie Pies and Twilight Sparkles on the shelves at any given time. I'd much rather have a wider variety of characters to collect rather than a bunch of different versions of any of the Mane 6. One to two versions of any given Mane 6 pony on the shelves at a time is all we need. It makes sense to have these ponies on the shelves at all times for kids who are just getting into MLP who watch FiM and really like its main characters, but to have such an extreme amount of them compared to other ponies is just overkill. I do like the Mane 6, but I'm bored of them because Hasbro's released them so many times (and a lot of rereleases don't even give them interesting gimmicks, many have no gimmicks at all in fact).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on May 28, 2019, 05:41:00 PM
I am starting to get annoyed when people take Hasbro's side and try to ~ explain why they are repeating the Mane Six ad nauseam. The concept of a team of protagonists is not new. Other lines have done it before, including MLP with the Core Seven. I guess we all understand that.

But the issue is that they did not balance it. They made collecting characters about collecting seven characters in slightly different versions like Malibu Stacy and her new hat. You can do that with fashion dolls because different fashions and styles allow for virtually endless combos and looks.
But you can only sell seven ponies so often until customers get bored and move on to LOL, Hairdorables, LPS or another cutesy girly collectible.
If FiM had been based on the toy line alone and not on the cartoon, it wouldn't have had a 9 year run. It would have been like 3.5

You see how often they reboot Transformers. I can't keep up anymore because each year there is a new TF cartoon with a new timeline. They churn out new characters along with old ones all. The. Time.
Hasbro also keeps variety in their LpS line. So we all know they can do it. They just chose not to because their Core Character thing was able to stay alive for 9 years with the success of FiM.
If G5 can't repeat this success they will have to rethink and go back to the roots. Also similar to LpS where the fun cartoon was NOT able to sell the new pet style well enough so they relented and gave the fans the old style back. I kinda miss Blythe in LpS, btw. It was funny to see her get a story and stuff, Hasbro should bring her back, too :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 28, 2019, 06:13:17 PM
Take a  :thanks: Zapper. Terrific post! :iconclap:


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on May 28, 2019, 06:17:38 PM
Oh, LPS is a good comparison. They tried the "core set of characters" thing with that line, too - but IMO they actually did it *well* with LPS. The same couple of characters recurred for a while but they never overtook the line. Granted they kind of gave up on them after a while (I've never seen the LPS cartoon, but I get the impression they were hoping it would be "the next FiM" but it never really took off, not to the extent Hasbro were likely hoping for, anyway), but still.

But the issue is that they did not balance it. They made collecting characters about collecting seven characters in slightly different versions like Malibu Stacy and her new hat. You can do that with fashion dolls because different fashions and styles allow for virtually endless combos and looks.

This, too. Monster High pulled off the "core characters" thing partly because they varied it (sure there were the main chars, but you didn't usually have ALL of them in one line unless it was one of the big lines - and those usually had just as many new characters and/or non-mains) and partly because, as you pointed out, fashion dolls lend themselves towards multiple re-releases much more than ponies do.

That aside though... if Hasbro had done new sets like this (for example):

Mane 6
Mane 6
New character
New character

...I wouldn't really have much of a problem with that. The problem is that 9 out of 10 sets just have all/most of the M6 and maybe one new character if you're lucky. And usually that new character is packaged with one of the M6. @___@;
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on May 29, 2019, 03:26:44 AM
Oh, LPS is a good comparison. They tried the "core set of characters" thing with that line, too - but IMO they actually did it *well* with LPS. The same couple of characters recurred for a while but they never overtook the line. Granted they kind of gave up on them after a while (I've never seen the LPS cartoon, but I get the impression they were hoping it would be "the next FiM" but it never really took off, not to the extent Hasbro were likely hoping for, anyway), but still.

Oh, I have a lot of feelings about this. They definitely wanted to hop onto the Brony train with LPS. When the show was announced the creators did a statement on how they tried to make the show less girly so boys could enjoy it, too. Because nothing is worse than a girly show about a girl franchise.

They also supported when fans tried to label themselves "petters" or even "pet shop boys" :lookround:
They really thought they could get a grown adult male fandom with a main character like Blythe, whom lots of dudes can't connect to because she is a teenage girl with a stick body and a creepy head and not a shapely little anime pony with bedroom eyes :lol:

However, I can recommend the cartoon. It is cute and has a very Muppet Babies feeling to it. There are lots of songs in different styles (and homages (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oO6zzyBBOZ8)). Plus it's just as much about Blythe as it is about LPS and it has self-reflective humor (my fave part was when they would point out how large their heads are) :lol:
It's way funnier than FiM because they never tried to pander to "petters", they made up funny situations based on the characters (lots of quirky characters to choose from).
I sometimes rewatch an episode to fall asleep to because it was just an overall pleasant little kids cartoon and not too preachy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on May 29, 2019, 08:05:31 AM
(and a lot of rereleases don't even give them interesting gimmicks, many have no gimmicks at all in fact).

Tbh I was mostly talking about single packed releases. The single releases had multiple great gimmicks (and a few I didn't quite care for but they were still different). There have been winged, light up, tinsel hair, rainbow tinsel hair, TAF, water and glitter filled, pearly, seahorses, scenes on their side, ribbons in their hair. As much as I am okay with the Mane 6 it annoyed me when they packed new ponies with a Mane 6 pony because they were never as interesting as the single releases. If I was behind the toy line everything would be either single releases or complete sets. No 2 packs or anything like that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Doedeardarling on May 29, 2019, 08:25:04 AM
I really wanted to like the first tooth baby ponies, because I love Quackers, and wish adult Bouncy was that soft shade of yellow underneath the flock, and the idea and the accessories and everything, but they are just somehow wrong, and I don't know why. Maybe they should be a bit bigger, since they have more adult propotions than baby ponies. They just don't look right next to other ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on May 29, 2019, 03:22:37 PM
I really wanted to like the first tooth baby ponies, because I love Quackers, and wish adult Bouncy was that soft shade of yellow underneath the flock, and the idea and the accessories and everything, but they are just somehow wrong, and I don't know why. Maybe they should be a bit bigger, since they have more adult propotions than baby ponies. They just don't look right next to other ponies.

I always thought it was odd in the cartoon how the first tooth babies were responsible for the newborn twins-feeding, entertaining, diapering, etc.  They lived alone in the Lullaby Nursery and the adults only showed up to see why the newborn twins were crying (because apparently they were loud enough to be heard all the way over in Dream Castle or Paradise Estate) and yell at the other babies for not taking good enough care of them.  Shouldn't there have been an adult somewhere in the nursery?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Majesty on May 29, 2019, 04:18:25 PM
I really wanted to like the first tooth baby ponies, because I love Quackers, and wish adult Bouncy was that soft shade of yellow underneath the flock, and the idea and the accessories and everything, but they are just somehow wrong, and I don't know why. Maybe they should be a bit bigger, since they have more adult propotions than baby ponies. They just don't look right next to other ponies.

I always thought it was odd in the cartoon how the first tooth babies were responsible for the newborn twins-feeding, entertaining, diapering, etc.  They lived alone in the Lullaby Nursery and the adults only showed up to see why the newborn twins were crying (because apparently they were loud enough to be heard all the way over in Dream Castle or Paradise Estate) and yell at the other babies for not taking good enough care of them.  Shouldn't there have been an adult somewhere in the nursery?

Lots of things in the older MLP universe was strange to me.  Like how sometimes you'd see a baby pony who you know has a mother but you never saw her or how some ponies like Lickity Split had a baby but in the episode where you learn about Night Shade she doesn't seem like mother material and she wasn't in the MLP The Movie with the other ponies looking for her baby.  I guess back then people just never questioned it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on May 29, 2019, 04:51:08 PM
Wildshadow has a copy of the MLP and Friends show bible and she's posted pics from it before - I have a feeling one of them said something about avoiding depicting "mother/child" relationships between the baby ponies and their corresponding mum pony (i.e. the writers were supposed to just leave that vague/avoid bringing it up.. I guess cause it might open up awkward questions, like where/who their dads are? :p) but I might be misremembering that.

I know they did do stuff like that once or twice ("Bright Lights", like you mentioned) but on the whole they did seem to kind of side-step the issue.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SwiftStar84 on May 29, 2019, 05:53:09 PM
*inhales **holds for emphasis* 








I AM NOT A BRONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: nebulavery on May 30, 2019, 02:53:54 PM
I really deeply dislike the G3 Diva (http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Diva_Pose) pose, despite having both Moondancer and Wysteria in it. It just feels so snooty!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: gemini_pony on May 31, 2019, 06:17:16 AM
The so soft ponies feel gross.  I hate flocking it makes me nauseous touching it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on May 31, 2019, 07:34:05 PM

I always thought it was odd in the cartoon how the first tooth babies were responsible for the newborn twins-feeding, entertaining, diapering, etc.  They lived alone in the Lullaby Nursery and the adults only showed up to see why the newborn twins were crying (because apparently they were loud enough to be heard all the way over in Dream Castle or Paradise Estate) and yell at the other babies for not taking good enough care of them.  Shouldn't there have been an adult somewhere in the nursery?



I've always thought that the G1 baby ponies must age a little differently than humans. So the baby ponies are more like toddlers and the First Tooth babies are just above toddler age but still too young to be fully responsible for newborn baby ponies.



Wildshadow has a copy of the MLP and Friends show bible and she's posted pics from it before - I have a feeling one of them said something about avoiding depicting "mother/child" relationships between the baby ponies and their corresponding mum pony (i.e. the writers were supposed to just leave that vague/avoid bringing it up.. I guess cause it might open up awkward questions, like where/who their dads are? :p) but I might be misremembering that.

I know they did do stuff like that once or twice ("Bright Lights", like you mentioned) but on the whole they did seem to kind of side-step the issue.



That's very interesting. It seems like all of the adults looked after all of the babies in the cartoon.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 03, 2019, 07:44:46 AM
No offense, but it kinda irritates me that people believe the G1 cartoons had little impact on kids and that we were only about the toys. Some of us did watch cartoons and were influenced by it.

There were favorite iconic characters in both MLP n Friends and Tales. Wind Whistler, Fizzy, Patch, Shady, Baby Lickety-split, Whizzer, Teddy, Sweetheart and Melody come to mind. I wanted those ponies because of the cartoon. It was a very effective advertisement, much like Transformers and GI Joe were. I don't remember any commercials of Hasbro's Big 3, but I do remember the cartoons.

How I played with some of my toytoon ponies reflected that in their character, I'm sure I'm not the only one. I understand not every kid watched it or had cable. But other kids did, and our experience is just as valid as those of you who hadn't seen it, or didn't care for it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on August 03, 2019, 12:37:18 PM
No offense, but it kinda irritates me that people believe the G1 cartoons had little impact on kids and that we were only about the toys. Some of us did watch cartoons and were influenced by it.

If the cartoon had no impact they would have stopped doing cartoons.
What I like about G1 is that it had so many canons and you could follow one or more and they'd be all legit.
Germany had the Pony n Friends cartoon, the back cards and the story tapes. I mostly grew up with the story tapes, so to me Firefly was a boy until I saw RaMC when I was already an adult and my mind was blown (positively so beause in the German story tapes a lot of active girl characters were turned into boys, such as Gusty and Firefly).
The back cards would have them as girls but... I couldn't read XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 03, 2019, 12:56:03 PM
No offense, but it kinda irritates me that people believe the G1 cartoons had little impact on kids and that we were only about the toys. Some of us did watch cartoons and were influenced by it.

If the cartoon had no impact they would have stopped doing cartoons.
What I like about G1 is that it had so many canons and you could follow one or more and they'd be all legit.
Germany had the Pony n Friends cartoon, the back cards and the story tapes. I mostly grew up with the story tapes, so to me Firefly was a boy until I saw RaMC when I was already an adult and my mind was blown (positively so beause in the German story tapes a lot of active girl characters were turned into boys, such as Gusty and Firefly).
The back cards would have them as girls but... I couldn't read XD

Its always neat to hear about international differences Zapper. I had no idea about that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 04, 2019, 12:35:38 AM
No offense, but it kinda irritates me that people believe the G1 cartoons had little impact on kids and that we were only about the toys. Some of us did watch cartoons and were influenced by it.

What I like about G1 is that it had so many canons and you could follow one or more and they'd be all legit.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. Over here I've been told RAMC aired in the very early years but the TV series didn't (I watched a lot of US cartoons from this time, Transformers, Heman, Shera, Thundercats, they all aired here, but MLP never did and I always wondered why). They were all on VHS here but you had to go out and a: find and b: buy them so I had 4 eps as a kid and though I watched them a lot, I considered them inferior to the comics because they 'got the names wrong' and 'invented ponies' <---How a UK kid explains watching a show meant for a completely different audience where completely different ponies and names were available.

So for me the biggest influence was the comic and it influenced how I bought or chose pony favourites. The TV show had zero impact on me because by the time I saw the most of the episodes those ponies were long gone - and my favourite was Paradise, who I now know didn't exist in the way I expected her to.

The comics were my biggest influence. UK backcard stories weren't very long until the late 1980s when they used similar stories to the US and then started branching out on their own. Early stories are two, three sentences.

I also had a bunch of spoken word books and other books and annuals, biggest story book etc.

I learned to read aged 2 and write aged 4 so by the time I was 5 or 6 I could read the pony comic and pony books on my own, and did. I've got the first (?) MLP and friends comic somewhere in which I wrote myself that I was 5, my favourite pony was Shady, and I had 8 ponies total in my collection xD.


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on August 04, 2019, 06:11:04 AM
No offense, but it kinda irritates me that people believe the G1 cartoons had little impact on kids and that we were only about the toys. Some of us did watch cartoons and were influenced by it.

What I like about G1 is that it had so many canons and you could follow one or more and they'd be all legit.

I agree with this wholeheartedly.

I do too. :)

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: rybett on August 04, 2019, 05:52:36 PM
G1 teeny tiny babies are munchkin cats.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: milkywaymochi on August 04, 2019, 11:53:29 PM
I don't care for seaponies much.

I don't particularly care for teeny tiny baby ponies either. According to my G1 guidebook, they were intended to be even younger than the newborn baby ponies. I... I'm sorry, exactly HOW do you get younger than a newborn?? Are they fetus ponies?!

Most of all however, I can't stand beddy bye eye ponies. I think they look downright horrifying. It's such a shame too, because there's some baby ponies I'd love to have, if they had a non BBE mould.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on August 05, 2019, 07:30:19 AM
According to my G1 guidebook, they were intended to be even younger than the newborn baby ponies.  I... I'm sorry, exactly HOW do you get younger than a newborn?? Are they fetus ponies?!


 :lmao:

Maybe they were meant to be premie babies but I'd never heard they were supposed to be younger than newborns!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 05, 2019, 10:32:20 AM
According to my G1 guidebook, they were intended to be even younger than the newborn baby ponies.  I... I'm sorry, exactly HOW do you get younger than a newborn?? Are they fetus ponies?!


 :lmao:

Maybe they were meant to be premie babies but I'd never heard they were supposed to be younger than newborns!

I am trying to remember what the UK cards say about these. It's really stupid. It's like one pony said, they're teeny, and another said they're weeny, so they got called teeny weeny ponies. But I have this feeling that may be accurate, that they were meant to be the youngest somehow? I guess the newborns grew up a bit by the time they came along?

In any case I remember I got Rattles (white one, can't remember what the US calls her) for Christmas in 1992. Which is not exciting or important except she came as a freebie with the Kitchen playset. I don't know why Woolworths thought a teeny baby pony unsupervised in a kitchen was a good idea, but there you go.

I miss Woolworths.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on August 05, 2019, 01:10:35 PM
I don't really like ponies who have a different mane color than tail color.  I'm not talking about ponies with a stripe in their mane but ponies who have a pink mane and a purple tail (for example).  It looks off to me.  Why couldn't they just use the same color?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lady Frostbite on August 05, 2019, 03:29:33 PM
Ah, Woolworths. Gone, but certainly not forgotten in our hearts  :cry: Wilko is trying to be you, but no-one will ever be you.

I think Twilight Sparkle is honestly Lauren Faust's stand-in character, and once I made a joke about her mane resembling Lauren Fausticorn's mane, the idea stuck. I still don't get why she is being made Princess of All Equestria; I feel the Dusk and Dawn plot could have worked better if Twilight was left in charge and it was simply Luna and Celestia going on holiday/vacation, but clearly coming back. Heck, it could have been a lesson to kids about what it's like when mom and dad leave you in charge of the house while they're gone!

(Yeah they covered that a bit in Somepony To Watch Over Me but Applejack's paranoia was center-stage and Applebloom was at first very responsible)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on August 05, 2019, 06:04:25 PM
I don't particularly care for teeny tiny baby ponies either. According to my G1 guidebook, they were intended to be even younger than the newborn baby ponies. I... I'm sorry, exactly HOW do you get younger than a newborn?? Are they fetus ponies?!
:lmao:

Maybe they were meant to be premie babies but I'd never heard they were supposed to be younger than newborns!

I adore Teeny Tiny ponies, but yeah it is odd that they're clearly younger than what's referred to as the "newborn" ponies. As a result I think of the actual newborns as being the Teeny Tinies, "Newborns" as just being babies, and the normal "baby" ponies as being moreso toddlers, like the pony equivalent of a three year old child or something.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on August 05, 2019, 06:14:46 PM
I don't particularly care for teeny tiny baby ponies either. According to my G1 guidebook, they were intended to be even younger than the newborn baby ponies. I... I'm sorry, exactly HOW do you get younger than a newborn?? Are they fetus ponies?!
:lmao:

Maybe they were meant to be premie babies but I'd never heard they were supposed to be younger than newborns!

I adore Teeny Tiny ponies, but yeah it is odd that they're clearly younger than what's referred to as the "newborn" ponies. As a result I think of the actual newborns as being the Teeny Tinies, "Newborns" as just being babies, and the normal "baby" ponies as being moreso toddlers, like the pony equivalent of a three year old child or something.

I also see the babies like Baby Firefly, Baby Moondancer, Baby Lemon Drop etc.. as being toddler age.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 06, 2019, 10:40:35 AM
Ah, Woolworths. Gone, but certainly not forgotten in our hearts  :cry: Wilko is trying to be you, but no-one will ever be you.

So much this.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on August 09, 2019, 12:14:12 PM
I may not be a very huge fan of G3, but I seriously believe that G3 Pinkie Pie is a much better written character than G4 Pinkie Pie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on August 09, 2019, 01:23:30 PM
I may not be a very huge fan of G3, but I seriously believe that G3 Pinkie Pie is a much better written character than G4 Pinkie Pie.
I like both of them, but G4 Pinkie Pie doesn't seem like an easy character to write (according to my friend/pen pal/writing partner, she's not.)  The ultimate problem seems to be knowing how silly and "random" you're supposed to make her.

I think she was her best in seasons 1 and 2 - she was silly enough, and (for me at least) was only annoying if the joke required her to be (making it a "good" annoying - it affects the characters, not me.)  She also wasn't really random, she just seemed that way at times, and she made some level of her own version of sense, it was shown that she was the kind of pony who thought others would get what she meant, so she didn't need to explain things (though I think she also said things that were simply silly because it was fun - Element of Laughter, and all that), but the further she went on she just seemed too random, like she was there for the throwaway jokes, and that was it.  I even have a joke theory that they have Mirror Pinkie with them now, and don't realise it.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 09, 2019, 01:49:29 PM
I may not be a very huge fan of G3, but I seriously believe that G3 Pinkie Pie is a much better written character than G4 Pinkie Pie.
I like both of them, but G4 Pinkie Pie doesn't seem like an easy character to write (according to my friend/pen pal/writing partner, she's not.)  The ultimate problem seems to be knowing how silly and "random" you're supposed to make her.

I think she was her best in seasons 1 and 2 - she was silly enough, and (for me at least) was only annoying if the joke required her to be (making it a "good" annoying - it affects the characters, not me.)  She also wasn't really random, she just seemed that way at times, and she made some level of her own version of sense, it was shown that she was the kind of pony who thought others would get what she meant, so she didn't need to explain things (though I think she also said things that were simply silly because it was fun - Element of Laughter, and all that), but the further she went on she just seemed too random, like she was there for the throwaway jokes, and that was it.  I even have a joke theory that they have Mirror Pinkie with them now, and don't realise it.



If she was genuinely random and funny she would be easy to write. The problem is she's not, thus its forced, thus capturing that forced notfunny funny would make it much harder. It's not random, it's following predictable outlines and obvious joke triggers, which is very difficult to write because it's unnatural. Characters should flow and develop themselves, but someone is constantly putting a leash on Pinkie Pie to keep her stuck in the same few moves. At least, my impression from 2 and a half seasons, plus odd episodes, plus movie...she has zero development and is not random or funny because she's tied to those rules.

You can't be random and tied to a framework. Random can't be a framework. Thus she's not random, thus it doesn't work. So many things these days try to 'be random' or 'express your random side'...and none of them are actually random.

I hope that makes sense.

If not, my basic unpopular opinion is G4 Pinkie Pie isn't random.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on August 09, 2019, 01:53:15 PM
I may not be a very huge fan of G3, but I seriously believe that G3 Pinkie Pie is a much better written character than G4 Pinkie Pie.
I like both of them, but G4 Pinkie Pie doesn't seem like an easy character to write (according to my friend/pen pal/writing partner, she's not.)  The ultimate problem seems to be knowing how silly and "random" you're supposed to make her.

I think she was her best in seasons 1 and 2 - she was silly enough, and (for me at least) was only annoying if the joke required her to be (making it a "good" annoying - it affects the characters, not me.)  She also wasn't really random, she just seemed that way at times, and she made some level of her own version of sense, it was shown that she was the kind of pony who thought others would get what she meant, so she didn't need to explain things (though I think she also said things that were simply silly because it was fun - Element of Laughter, and all that), but the further she went on she just seemed too random, like she was there for the throwaway jokes, and that was it.  I even have a joke theory that they have Mirror Pinkie with them now, and don't realise it.

Pinkie was my favourite character when FiM first came out, and then after the second season, I got tired of her, and Rarity has been my favourite since. Her and Applejack, I like the more mature characters. I used to like Twilight too but something about her eventually got to me and now I don't care for her. Not sure what it is.

As for Pinkie, do they think squeally high-pitched character screaming= funny? That's the only thing I associate with her anymore, is her squealing... Andrea Libman's "Pinkie voice" isn't so bad when it's at a normal level, like G3 Zipzee's voice is actually cute imo.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on August 09, 2019, 10:22:58 PM
I really liked the characters in the first two-three seasons, but they lost their shine as time went on.  I didn’t want to watch them become less interesting and more complicated in the name of character development nor did I want to keep watching them do the same thing over and over again. 

Perhaps it would have been better if they had moved on to other ponies and did a few episodes and cameos with the main 6?   It would had been pretty cool to see how other ponies/animals lived without the 6 jumping in to “fix” things.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 10, 2019, 12:19:38 AM
I really liked the characters in the first two-three seasons, but they lost their shine as time went on.  I didn’t want to watch them become less interesting and more complicated in the name of character development nor did I want to keep watching them do the same thing over and over again. 

Perhaps it would have been better if they had moved on to other ponies and did a few episodes and cameos with the main 6?   It would had been pretty cool to see how other ponies/animals lived without the 6 jumping in to “fix” things.

I guess they were also tied to the archetypes?

I only watched those early seasons and I found the characters didn't evolve much with experience and you could watch any episode out of sequence and it didn't matter in terms of continuity. I think for some kid's shows that works well, but in a narrative based story like MLP I would have expected some kind of character development over the first 2 and a half seasons. There just wasn't any. Equestria Girls has it (albeit not with Pinkie, admittedly), so I don't really know why FIM didn't except that the writers decided to play safe with what was clearly a winning formula.

If it got worse later on then I'm glad I didn't keep watching but if you keep characters tied too tightly to their trope/archetype, you don't leave wiggle room.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: promqueen on August 10, 2019, 11:36:55 AM
Some of my unpopular opinions are:
-I don't get the hype for sea ponies they look weird to me
-I love the sister ponies particularly the prom queen line. They are amongst my favourites
-I don't like the ponies with the crazy markings or sparkles  (glow n show, colorswirl)
-Curly haired ponies are my favourite! (Candy cane, rainbow curl)
- The animal friends are kind of cute in a way but I have mixed feelings and don't get a lot of the hype.
-I love the tropical ponies and think they are super underrated. Their eyeshadow is gorgeous! (I just wish they were scented)
-I generally prefer the ponies from the later half (year 6-12) as opposed to the early half that were released
-I don't like the packaging for the retro 35th anniversary ponies. It's not very true to the original and it's the same kind of box for every line
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on August 11, 2019, 08:35:05 AM
-I generally prefer the ponies from the later half (year 6-12) as opposed to the early half that were released

me too!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on August 12, 2019, 01:03:37 PM
I like the later ponies, too! Nostalgia aside, the later ponies had some nifty gimmicks.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 12, 2019, 01:32:47 PM
FiM fans are not bigger then the collective 30+ year fandom. That's not even an unpopular opinion. Its plain simple truth. And just as ludicrous a fallacy as saying that new DC fans are bigger then the entire group of DC fans as a whole.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on August 12, 2019, 01:38:11 PM
FiM fans are not bigger then the collective 30+ year fandom.
And thank heavens!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 12, 2019, 02:24:57 PM
FiM fans are not bigger then the collective 30+ year fandom.
And thank heavens!

And hopefully the crazy ones are going away so that we're only left with the nice ones who are sane and don't post pony porn all over the internet.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 12, 2019, 02:51:33 PM
FiM fans are not bigger then the collective 30+ year fandom.
And thank heavens!

And hopefully the crazy ones are going away so that we're only left with the nice ones who are sane and don't post pony porn all over the internet.


 I'll :beerchug: to that!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on August 12, 2019, 09:16:07 PM
 

And hopefully the crazy ones are going away so that we're only left with the nice ones who are sane and don't post pony porn all over the internet.
I have an unpopular opinion on that subject but I don't want to get banned for saying it. XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on August 13, 2019, 06:33:32 AM

And hopefully the crazy ones are going away so that we're only left with the nice ones who are sane and don't post pony porn all over the internet.
I have an unpopular opinion on that subject but I don't want to get banned for saying it. XD

You want the nice ones to go, too? :(
:silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 13, 2019, 06:46:02 AM

And hopefully the crazy ones are going away so that we're only left with the nice ones who are sane and don't post pony porn all over the internet.
I have an unpopular opinion on that subject but I don't want to get banned for saying it. XD

You want the nice ones to go, too? :(
:silly:

Or believes all of us are crazy already...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lalalei2001 on August 16, 2019, 11:27:05 AM
I like Munchy!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lady Frostbite on August 16, 2019, 09:11:49 PM
Gilda Did Nothing Wrong prior to her turn in the town square (i.e. her interactions with Pinkie)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on August 17, 2019, 08:01:57 AM

And hopefully the crazy ones are going away so that we're only left with the nice ones who are sane and don't post pony porn all over the internet.
I have an unpopular opinion on that subject but I don't want to get banned for saying it. XD

You want the nice ones to go, too? :(
:silly:

Or believes all of us are crazy already...
It's a secret!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on August 29, 2019, 09:03:35 AM
I have to admit, the finale has left me with a sorrowful yet comforting feeling. But if I may, I'd like to voice some things I believe Hasbro changed from Lauren Fausts story.

Spoiler
I believe Twilight is a semi false princess, with the biggest piece of evidence is what we see with Cadence and some of her off screen back story. Princesses have always had a strong, consistent talent since a very early age.

With Cadence, despite being born a pegasus she had always displayed a love for everyone and valued everyone. Same with Celestia and Luna, they've always had a special connection to the sun and moon respectively.

When we are first introduced to Twilight, she has no time for friends, only studying magic and is given the task of moving to Ponyville. She's also shown to be mostly associated with magic (hence special talent and with the elements of harmony, she is the literal element of magic, which has defined a large part of her life) so I believe that Twilight was maybe supposed to become a princess and be the princess of magic. Not the princess of friendship.

Because it does make sense for both Twilight and Cadence to be kinda unrelated but still be related. Everyone needs love, in the MLP universe and ours. And magic, is a complete necessary in their world to function, while in our world we need it in a different way.

And another thing that I believe Hasbro changed was the Cutie Mark Crusaders Cutie Marks. I believe Faust meant for the three of them have their own individual Cutie Mark, with Apple Bloom having an apple cutie mark, Sweetie Belle to be a singer and Scootaloo to be a stunt woman (through the slightly visible symbol inside their Cutie Mark)

I mean, in their own universe having 3 non related ponies have nearly identical Cutie Marks would be absolutely astounding (I'm saying non blood related in relation to Flim and Flam, who are twins and thick as thieves so it'd make sense for them to have nearly identical Cutie Marks)

Also a smaller nitpick is that Cheese Sandwhich and Pinkie Pie has a daughter that's a literal combination of the two, not a semi related Cutie Mark but idk that's probably just me.

And I have more issues with a lot more things but I'll leave them for now.

Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on August 29, 2019, 09:33:29 AM
Hasbro changed from Lauren Fausts story.

Well, this is a fun conspiracy theory but let me dissect this a little.

You refer to FiM as "Faust's story" while all the other writers and showrunners are supposed to be "Hasbro".
Lauren Faust was working for Hasbro just as much as all the other writers and she reveived help from other writers with writing her own episodes. So how much do we know was actually her?

Without "Hasbro" we wouldn't have gotten Cadance because "Hasbro" wanted a pink princess and a wedding (so goes the legend). S2 still had Lauren on board. So how do we know if Cadance was part of "Lauren's story" or "Hasbro's"?

Spoiler
About the fake princess thing...
The show is literally called "friendship is magic". Friendship fuels the most powerful magic in Equestria. Twilight is a magic prophecy and the only kick she needed was to open up to friendship to reach her full potential.
They even alluded heavily to Sunset Shimmer being chosen before Twilight was. But Sunset wasn't able to "unlock" friendship. Instead she fled into a different dimension and bullied others there. She only came around when the better student, Twilight, showed her the way.

So storywise, I don't really see the problem in Twilight not really being a real Princess of Friendship or not having a strong connection to friendship.

Sunset could have technically been in her place (thusly also crushing the constant Mary Sue accusations) but Lauren Faust infamously disliked Equestria Girls. It honestly looks (just my opinion, I have no proof) more like Lauren did not want her to be anything but the "leader" of the group while other writers saw the potential in her being a princess, both to sell toys and to close her arc (of course we know now they had only three seasons planned when she was crowned, resulting in Twilight being a semi-bad Princess in later seasons. They simply failed at writing in a more believable character progression).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 29, 2019, 09:59:43 AM
I have to admit, the finale has left me with a sorrowful yet comforting feeling. But if I may, I'd like to voice some things I believe Hasbro changed from Lauren Fausts story.

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I believe Twilight is a semi false princess, with the biggest piece of evidence is what we see with Cadence and some of her off screen back story. Princesses have always had a strong, consistent talent since a very early age.

With Cadence, despite being born a pegasus she had always displayed a love for everyone and valued everyone. Same with Celestia and Luna, they've always had a special connection to the sun and moon respectively.

When we are first introduced to Twilight, she has no time for friends, only studying magic and is given the task of moving to Ponyville. She's also shown to be mostly associated with magic (hence special talent and with the elements of harmony, she is the literal element of magic, which has defined a large part of her life) so I believe that Twilight was maybe supposed to become a princess and be the princess of magic. Not the princess of friendship.

Because it does make sense for both Twilight and Cadence to be kinda unrelated but still be related. Everyone needs love, in the MLP universe and ours. And magic, is a complete necessary in their world to function, while in our world we need it in a different way.

And another thing that I believe Hasbro changed was the Cutie Mark Crusaders Cutie Marks. I believe Faust meant for the three of them have their own individual Cutie Mark, with Apple Bloom having an apple cutie mark, Sweetie Belle to be a singer and Scootaloo to be a stunt woman (through the slightly visible symbol inside their Cutie Mark)

I mean, in their own universe having 3 non related ponies have nearly identical Cutie Marks would be absolutely astounding (I'm saying non blood related in relation to Flim and Flam, who are twins and thick as thieves so it'd make sense for them to have nearly identical Cutie Marks)

Also a smaller nitpick is that Cheese Sandwhich and Pinkie Pie has a daughter that's a literal combination of the two, not a semi related Cutie Mark but idk that's probably just me.

And I have more issues with a lot more things but I'll leave them for now.

Thank you for listening to my TED talk.


No. You see, many writers have worked for Hasbro. Just as many artists and toy designers have worked for Hasbro.

I do agree that Twilight isn't very good at the Friendship thing. Though that's more due to Hasbro's ham-fisted attempts at moralizing.

The moral of the story is, Don't attempt to Moralize Hasbroken, you suck at it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on August 29, 2019, 10:02:56 AM
Honestly I think calling any TV show "so-and-so's story" is kind of a logical fallacy. TV shows are made by lots of people, not just one! :p
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on August 29, 2019, 10:19:20 AM
I have heard that Lauren was involved in Princess Cadance's creation (which back then I took to mean she created her, but of course, that's not what the sentence says), but she wasn't an alicorn back then, and Lauren was surprised when she found that this was the direction "Hasbro" took.

This isn't really related to what was said, but I've realised that I may finally be able to put my views on Lauren into perspective;

I will admit, that my first assumption is that the show creator is the one steering the ship, as it where, or at least attempting to, while he or she is still on board.  So my first assumption was always that Lauren at least came up with the story, but I know that is not always the case, since they had a writers room full of writers, so all of them probably came up with stories - it was Lauren's show back then, but I doubt that she did everything - she is one person.  I know there are times when you just have to do what the company wants you to do, as well.

I have no idea how much (if any) of the season 1 (and possibly season 2) episodes were Lauren's ideas, and how many were the ideas of the writers who actually wrote them (or even other writers.)  They probably would have said something like "Story by Lauren Faust", as well as "Written by" whichever writer if this was the case, but I don't know if that's mandatory (episodes with more than one writer credited everyone, though) and it seems strange if Lauren didn't put more of her own storylines in, considering she came up with some when she played with her toys (though she may have not remembered them.)

So yeah, my go to assumption back then was that Lauren came up with the stories, and then the writers did the episodes, unless specified otherwise, but that was simply what I thought (and wanted to think) back then. 

I will admit, that a lot of my "Lauren did everything!" mentality back in the day was because I was soaking up the comments that seemed to be saying "Lauren did next to nothing!", so I felt she was underappreciated - they probably weren't even saying that, they may have been simply responding to the people who supposedly put her on a pedestal, but I never saw any of that (or I simply didn't take it in.)  All I took notice of was comments saying that she did three (or two) episodes and that was it, and it looked like people were saying she didn't deserve praise, and I sympathized with her.

I now realise that it is unlikely that she came up with all the episodes, if she came up with any that we know she did, but I still like to assume that while she was around, she had some input on what happened, but I also assume that anything could have come from any of the then current writers. 

It would be good if we could hear what her plans were for the characters, like what would she have done if she was still in control of the show, at least beginning with how things were in season one, or even how she envisioned things would go before season 1 was complete (with the stuff that never got passed the development stage.)  I'd like to hear all the versions she's got dating back to the Concept Six, personally.  Though I don't know if she'd like to talk about it...

Either way, I continue to respect her as a person, a creator, and a writer.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on August 29, 2019, 10:26:16 AM
Honestly I think calling any TV show "so-and-so's story" is kind of a logical fallacy. TV shows are made by lots of people, not just one! :p

I guess it's because Lauren Faust developped it for TV and then left the show after two seasons but still stayed in contact with her fans who saw her departure as a mistake by Hasbro.

A lot of fans have spun her leaving into evil guy Hasbro trying to meddle with her ~vision and she quitting in tears. When in fact she left to work on her husband's Disney show and could have stayed at Hasbro if she would have wanted to. A lot of fans even believe she is the sole creator of MLP :lookround: and when someone is regarded so highly it can affect their reputation.

Back when FiM was starting out and gaining fans Lauren would even be credited with co-creating Powerpuff Girls, even though she just worked on that show (again a show by her husband)  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on August 29, 2019, 10:35:06 AM
oh man the crediting-Lauren-for-PPG thing drove me up the wall, I'm glad I don't see that any more. I mean I'm not saying she didn't do some great work on it, but sheesh!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on August 29, 2019, 10:44:05 AM
I will admit, that a lot of my "Lauren did everything!" mentality back in the day was because I was soaking up the comments that seemed to be saying "Lauren did next to nothing!", so I felt she was underappreciated.

Yeah, the Lauren bashing could go this direction, where she suddenly was a nothing and her name was just miraculously attached to FiM :lol:

She developped FiM for TV, which is not quite the same as creator. She did not create MLP.
However, she still developped the FiM version of MLP. That means she came up with the basics for the cartoon world, the first few characters, the art style and basic character designs, she also oversaw other artists. She worked with a pre-existing thing, that doesn't mean she was a slacker. Extremes like that are nonsensical.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 29, 2019, 11:14:53 AM
I dunno if this is unpopular or not but for me Lauren is the creator of the character bible for FIM. That's basically she was given the brief by Hasbro, wrote the characters with their ideas and intentions in mind, added her own aspect to it, but other writers on the show may have deviated away from that intention.

I see her like Christy Marx from Jem, who also stayed in touch with fans, was the main creator of the Jem character bible. Albeit I feel like Christy is a different kind of person.

Lauren's a spoke in the wheel of FIM, but it's an important spoke. However she has zero relationship to any older pony gen except as a fan growing up with them, and that's the part some FIM fans don't recognise.

I don't really like her contributions to MLP, but they are real and they are there.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on August 29, 2019, 11:30:34 AM
A lot of fans have spun her leaving into evil guy Hasbro trying to meddle with her ~vision and she quitting in tears. When in fact she left to work on her husband's Disney show and could have stayed at Hasbro if she would have wanted to.
Wow, I never knew that was the reason (said show is actually pretty decent from what I've seen, and definitely seems like something Craig would create) - I honestly thought that she did leave due to creative differences, though not as extreme as Hasbro bullying her or anything like that.  I'm sure I read that she felt messed around at times, like they'd tell her to do one thing (make the pony who became Trixie female) and later insist on something that contradicted that (the sudden inclusion of Pipsqueak in an episode where he didn't exist - the overall gist of it being "First you act like I can't have too many boy characters, and now you force in a boy character?") though it could have been corrupted and taken out of context - there was a lot of hearsay when it came to Lauren from what I saw.

oh man the crediting-Lauren-for-PPG thing drove me up the wall, I'm glad I don't see that any more. I mean I'm not saying she didn't do some great work on it, but sheesh!
Yeah, that annoyed me as well (albeit for different reasons), even Lauren herself kept insisting it was Craig's show, and not hers.  I mean, at least with Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends, which also had this mistake attached to it, it made some level of sense, because I think Lauren was involved from the beginning, but she wasn't even one of the original people for Powerpuff Girls - she joined later on.

She developped FiM for TV, which is not quite the same as creator. She did not create MLP.
However, she still developped the FiM version of MLP. That means she came up with the basics for the cartoon world, the first few characters, the art style and basic character designs, she also oversaw other artists. She worked with a pre-existing thing, that doesn't mean she was a slacker. Extremes like that are nonsensical.
Assuming I have read the first part of this correctly, I promise I am aware that she didn't create the entire My Little Pony franchise, just the G4 cartoon.

I'm sure that what you say is a very fair and accurate description of what she did.  :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on August 29, 2019, 01:00:57 PM
yeah I don't mind it with FHFIF, because a) my impression is that she had more involvement with that than PPG and b) the finale itself said "Thanks for watching! - Craig and Lauren".

(Wander is a great show btw, y'all should totally watch it.)

Moving a bit back more on-topic, I guess I just don't get the "they went away from Lauren's ~vision~!" thing x) That's what happens in shows! All the writers will, naturally, have their own opinions and things are gonna deviate from "the original plan", especially if the original creator (or developer in this situation, or whatever word you want to use) leaves the show before it's finished. That's what I was trying to say before ^^ Dunno if I worded it right earlier.

I think Taffeta put it well. I have nothing against Faust! I respect her. But to me she's on the same level as, say, George Arthur Bloom or any of the other G1 writers. Makes me uncomfortable when people put creators (or anyone!) up on a huge pedestal.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on August 29, 2019, 01:28:58 PM
I just assumed they carried on the series after she left... I didn't think that she really had a plan for 9 seasons?  Or anybody did.  That's such a long time. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on August 29, 2019, 07:30:06 PM
Wow, I've learnt a lot. All this info/perspectives is appreciated!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on September 01, 2019, 07:11:57 AM
When I first got interested in the older generations of MLP, I thought Lickety split was blonde and although I know know it's supposed to be pink, I still think she would look nice with blonde hair.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on September 01, 2019, 10:17:18 AM
Moving a bit back more on-topic, I guess I just don't get the "they went away from Lauren's ~vision~!" thing x) That's what happens in shows! All the writers will, naturally, have their own opinions and things are gonna deviate from "the original plan", especially if the original creator (or developer in this situation, or whatever word you want to use) leaves the show before it's finished.

Ecactly. I think some fans view(ed) Lauren as an author of a story who was bought out by Hasbro since she has talked about how the inspiration for FiM came from playing with her G1 childhood ponies.
This can lead to people feeling sorry for and identify with her, "she just wanted to bring her childhood to the screen! Hasbro wouldn't let her! She had to make Rarity a fashionista and she had to include this and that!"

But the truth is she was hired by Hasbro to work with their product and that's what she did.

Post Merge: September 01, 2019, 10:48:33 AM

A lot of fans have spun her leaving into evil guy Hasbro trying to meddle with her ~vision and she quitting in tears. When in fact she left to work on her husband's Disney show and could have stayed at Hasbro if she would have wanted to.
Wow, I never knew that was the reason (said show is actually pretty decent from what I've seen, and definitely seems like something Craig would create) - I honestly thought that she did leave due to creative differences, though not as extreme as Hasbro bullying her or anything like that.  I'm sure I read that she felt messed around at times, like they'd tell her to do one thing (make the pony who became Trixie female) and later insist on something that contradicted that (the sudden inclusion of Pipsqueak in an episode where he didn't exist - the overall gist of it being "First you act like I can't have too many boy characters, and now you force in a boy character?") though it could have been corrupted and taken out of context - there was a lot of hearsay when it came to Lauren from what I saw.

It could have been both. But as far as I know she wasn't forced to quit and it wasn't in bad blood either since she wanted to work on Wander despite FiM.

Compare working with your life psrtner to working with several "strangers" - surely your life partner would grant you more artistic freedoms.
It was the best decision if she wanted mire creative control.

It's just that lack of creative control is sometimes a given. Especially when your show is supposed to sell toys.
As someone who works with kids media (allthough not cartoons) I get this all. the. time.
People are always thinking of the target audience first and your artistic vision second.

Walking away is always possible if you're not desperately hurting for money. And I am sure Lauren Faust earns more than me AND lives in a double income household :lol:
So I am in general a little less inclined to defend artists who get hired by a large company like Hasbro and then can't do 100% what they want.
My thoughts go straight to "ok so you obviously didn't need that money. Good on you! You went straight to your next job. Not everyone can have that! It's a good position to be in".

Of course it's fun to speculate and go "what would Lauren have done?" but I am also asking myself questions like "what if rabid bronies never influenced the show?" It would have been different. Would it have been better? Maybe?

Maybe Lauren's version of the princesses would have been different. But better? She would have still been under Hasbro and they wanted to sell toys.
It seems like she enjoyed working that way because she signed onto Mattel a few years later to make teenage fashion dolls out of female DC characters. She works again with a pre-existing property to make toys.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 02, 2019, 12:44:08 PM
Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, I've suddenly come to realize that the secondary sticky glue that holds fandoms together is ceaseless whining. This is goes for every fanbase for the record, not just ours. XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on September 02, 2019, 09:51:55 PM
I don't think the pre-G4 pony fanbase whines that much...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on September 02, 2019, 11:05:48 PM
I don't think the pre-G4 pony fanbase whines that much...

Yeah, I've never heard of toxicity among fans of G3. I can bet there'd be certain toxic people who liked it though.

Spoiler
Like Chris Chan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 03, 2019, 03:29:43 AM
I don't think the pre-G4 pony fanbase whines that much...

We got over the worst of our whining with g2 and the shadows stuff 20 years ago. Now we just old people grumble about how things were better in our day...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on September 03, 2019, 03:45:12 AM
I don't think the pre-G4 pony fanbase whines that much...

We got over the worst of our whining with g2 and the shadows stuff 20 years ago. Now we just old people grumble about how things were better in our day...

Whining with G2?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 03, 2019, 05:38:08 AM
I don't think the pre-G4 pony fanbase whines that much...

We got over the worst of our whining with g2 and the shadows stuff 20 years ago. Now we just old people grumble about how things were better in our day...

Whining with G2?

When G2 first came out there were people who liked them and those who didn't and it got a bit heated for a while. But it got resolved eventually,and when G3 happened everyone seemed pretty happy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on September 03, 2019, 06:11:58 AM
I don't think the pre-G4 pony fanbase whines that much...

We got over the worst of our whining with g2 and the shadows stuff 20 years ago. Now we just old people grumble about how things were better in our day...

Whining with G2?

When G2 first came out there were people who liked them and those who didn't and it got a bit heated for a while. But it got resolved eventually,and when G3 happened everyone seemed pretty happy.

I can see that, may I ask if you remember the main complaints of G2? I'm gathering (on the furthest back burner) info on G2 and I would like to make a video on G2 on why I think G2 flopped (Like those G4 commentary videos and maybe a little character in the corner)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 03, 2019, 06:17:00 AM
I don't think the pre-G4 pony fanbase whines that much...

We got over the worst of our whining with g2 and the shadows stuff 20 years ago. Now we just old people grumble about how things were better in our day...

Whining with G2?

When G2 first came out there were people who liked them and those who didn't and it got a bit heated for a while. But it got resolved eventually,and when G3 happened everyone seemed pretty happy.

I can see that, may I ask if you remember the main complaints of G2? I'm gathering (on the furthest back burner) info on G2 and I would like to make a video on G2 on why I think G2 flopped (Like those G4 commentary videos and maybe a little character in the corner)

Yeah, but I think the community is better off without digging up the details of that ancient history.

I don't think it has any relationship to G2's success, and I imagine European countries would argue that G2 didn't flop, as it continued there for some several years quite happily.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 03, 2019, 06:35:29 AM
I don't think the pre-G4 pony fanbase whines that much...

Sure we do.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on September 03, 2019, 07:52:06 AM
Yeah, we're whiners too. Just in a different way to bronies. ;p I mean, I don't think any of us would harrass any of the higher-ups or get seriously angry because a cheap blind bag toy didn't have a specific name ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on September 03, 2019, 09:46:11 AM
I don't think the pre-G4 pony fanbase whines that much...

We got over the worst of our whining with g2 and the shadows stuff 20 years ago. Now we just old people grumble about how things were better in our day...

Whining with G2?

When G2 first came out there were people who liked them and those who didn't and it got a bit heated for a while. But it got resolved eventually,and when G3 happened everyone seemed pretty happy.

I can see that, may I ask if you remember the main complaints of G2? I'm gathering (on the furthest back burner) info on G2 and I would like to make a video on G2 on why I think G2 flopped (Like those G4 commentary videos and maybe a little character in the corner)

G2 didn't flop in several European countries. We had stock on shelves until G3 came.
Of course Hasbro hates that and ignores it a lot because the US market is the most important.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on September 04, 2019, 10:06:43 PM
I can see that, may I ask if you remember the main complaints of G2?

I wasn't a "collecter" at that time, just a previously-G1 kid who had grown up and out of ponies. I absolutely adored my G1 herd, their gentle faces and plump features. 

I remember seeing G2 in stores and my reaction being "oh, they look weird, too skinny, no thanks" they didn't look like the "real MLP" that I was used to, so I wonder if that was what some of my generation thought too?

As I had grown out of toys anyway, it didn't really bother me too much, but at that moment I suppose I learnt what toy-nostalgia meant!  :lol:

Note:
this time period coincided with the Supermodels era and the ultra-skinny "heroin-chic" look that became high-fashion. Coincidence?  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: NigheanRuadh on September 05, 2019, 10:08:34 AM
I have only one memory of G2 when it was actually current.  My mom and I were walking past an aisle of toys, and I spotted the words My Little Pony on some of the packages.  I turned to my mom and excitedly told her that ponies were back.  She replied, "But they don't look the same.  They aren't as cute."  And that was the end of it.  I don't even remember seeing any more G2s until a few years ago when I got into the collector community.  I have a couple now, only because they were in a lot of ponies that I got from CraigsList. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shadowperla on September 05, 2019, 03:22:06 PM
I wonder, if they remember g2 as a "retro" in the end, would they maybe reissue designs of them on g1 or g3 repro bodies?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on September 05, 2019, 03:37:04 PM
I do remember being disappointed in G2 with both the bodies and faces.  But the accessories were amazing and their jewel eyes were lovely.  It made me see past mlp's new look.  I wouldn't mind retro versions of them, especially ones from Europe.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on September 05, 2019, 04:18:44 PM
Ohhh I WISH they'd make some sort of repro G2... repro G2s, G2 characters in new molds, G4 chars in G2/G2-esque molds, whatever! I just want G2 to get its due for once, damn it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on September 05, 2019, 11:10:31 PM
Ohhh I WISH they'd make some sort of repro G2... repro G2s, G2 characters in new molds, G4 chars in G2/G2-esque molds, whatever! I just want G2 to get its due for once, damn it.

I wouldn't mind retro versions of them, especially ones from Europe.

Omg same here! But I highly doubt that Hasbro will, which is where one of my dreams come in!

Spoiler
My dream is to make a HQG2C sort of thing, where we can release blanks for people to customise and new characters/non gimmick characters! Plus maybe replacement accessories.

I'm putting this on the back burner for a long while, but I have a Sky Skimmer mold, Prince Clever Clover mold and Morning Glory mold that needs to be 3D scanned. Once I get all the moulds scanned in, I can then use 3D programs to create new miles and create new species, like pegasi!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Snuzzle76 on September 11, 2019, 01:50:54 PM
Is anyone else creeped out by BBE Ponies or am I just weird?  :blush:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: milkywaymochi on September 11, 2019, 02:32:32 PM
Nah, its not just you. I personally hate the gimmick and think they look downright horrifying. I think it's a fairly common feeling, judging by how ruthlessly dunked on BBE ponies were in a G1 thread a while back  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on September 11, 2019, 09:13:57 PM
Nah, its not just you. I personally hate the gimmick and think they look downright horrifying. I think it's a fairly common feeling, judging by how ruthlessly dunked on BBE ponies were in a G1 thread a while back  :lol:

Yes, I agree. I will collect every baby except those BBEs.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Snuzzle76 on September 11, 2019, 09:23:00 PM
Nah, its not just you. I personally hate the gimmick and think they look downright horrifying. I think it's a fairly common feeling, judging by how ruthlessly dunked on BBE ponies were in a G1 thread a while back  :lol:
I feel bad for the little things, but they just give off a Poltergeisty vibe.

Post Merge: September 11, 2019, 09:25:17 PM

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Yes, I agree. I will collect every baby except those BBEs.
Me too.  :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on September 12, 2019, 04:53:39 AM
I think all the pony based mascot suits for musicals or promo are horrifying. I understand there is no other way to make the hind torso and legs than to have them dangle but could they possibly engineer that stuff better?

The pony head looks giant and then the hind quarters are just getting dragged with dangling legs. Get a Julie Taymor onto that or something :lol:

(Still unironically love Biggest Teaparty but if I was a kid I'd scream and run)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on September 12, 2019, 08:07:40 AM
I think that's pretty popular to be honest - I often see people saying they look scary.

My unpopular opinion - I like those costumes, and can see myself loving them if I had been a kid, and a fan of ponies when they came out.  Extra unpopular opinion (which I may have already said on here), I like that G4 live action play that was done with Twilight Sparkle, Applejack and Rainbow Dash.  I know they did the bare minimum and basically recycled lines from the show, but I still like it, because like I say, I can picture myself being a kid seeing characters he loves, if I had been a kid when My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic existed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Snuzzle76 on September 12, 2019, 01:58:53 PM
I don't think I've seen those costumes. Are there pictures of them?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BubbleTea on September 12, 2019, 03:55:27 PM
I don't think I've seen those costumes. Are there pictures of them?

You don't want to.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 12, 2019, 04:12:22 PM
I don't think I've seen those costumes. Are there pictures of them?
They are delightfully weird! Which costumes are we talking about?
Here's my personal favorite video with the G3 costumes: Ponies doing Musicals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouG4GpL1-I)
Or the G4 ones?
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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Snuzzle76 on September 12, 2019, 05:01:50 PM
I don't think I've seen those costumes. Are there pictures of them?
They are delightfully weird! Which costumes are we talking about?
Here's my personal favorite video with the G3 costumes: Ponies doing Musicals (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouG4GpL1-I)
Or the G4 ones?
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:lmao:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2019, 12:34:18 PM
Just because the color and symbols are a cliche, doesn't mean that the pony isn't beautiful. Pink/purple/blue/white is quite pleasing to the eye and there are plenty of people in the world who like flowers, butterflies, rainbows, hearts, stars and clouds.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on October 03, 2019, 12:39:28 PM
Just because the color and symbols are a cliche, doesn't mean that the pony isn't beautiful. Pink/purple/blue/white is quite pleasing to the eye and there are plenty of people in the world who like flowers, butterflies, rainbows, hearts, stars and clouds.
I love those cliche symbols.  Sometimes the more uncommon symbols can just look plain weird or too "human" to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2019, 12:48:52 PM
Just because the color and symbols are a cliche, doesn't mean that the pony isn't beautiful. Pink/purple/blue/white is quite pleasing to the eye and there are plenty of people in the world who like flowers, butterflies, rainbows, hearts, stars and clouds.

I have to agree. G3 Wysteria fits this category perfectly. I have the original one, but even though I don't generally like the Diva pose, the Diva Wysteria with her matte body is also amazing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 04, 2019, 10:55:07 AM
Wysteria is an incredibly pretty pony.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on October 04, 2019, 04:31:01 PM
Wysteria is an incredibly pretty pony.

Agreed! I hadn't thought much of her before only seeing photos of her online, but then when I got one of her myself I fell in love with her design. She's very beautiful!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on October 04, 2019, 04:47:58 PM
I think of Sniffles as a girl.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 04, 2019, 04:51:52 PM
I think of Sniffles as a girl.

If you mean the newborn unicorn, he's only officially a boy in the UK. Everywhere else I believe she's a girl.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: alkevin on October 06, 2019, 10:09:30 AM
If you are a pony collector you are a hoarder. :pout:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 06, 2019, 10:42:06 AM
If you are a pony collector you are a hoarder. :pout:

Whuh?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RoseNoire on October 06, 2019, 11:41:44 AM
If you are a pony collector you are a hoarder. :pout:

*Looks around herself... Ponies in every directions*

Ah, well, I can't disagree on that, hehe.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on October 06, 2019, 12:23:35 PM
Eh, I can live with that. Dragons have hoards ;) and dragons are cool, right?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 06, 2019, 12:31:00 PM
Uh no actually it's not true. There are differences between hoarding and collecting Alkevin.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on October 06, 2019, 12:33:05 PM
well, I know that, I was just trying to lighten the mood a bit. I'll admit, I didn't quite get the original post, either.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on October 06, 2019, 12:46:59 PM
If you are a pony collector you are a hoarder. :pout:

I consider myself more of a herder :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on October 06, 2019, 01:24:41 PM
If you are a pony collector you are a hoarder. :pout:

I consider myself more of a herder :biggrin:

:rofl: :lmao:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Spectrum on October 07, 2019, 06:49:42 PM
I really do not like the Clydesdale pose. Or the various baby boy ponies.

Also not a fan of flocking on ponies. It just washes them out, which is a shame because most of them have really nice colors underneath.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 08, 2019, 10:35:23 AM
If you are a pony collector you are a hoarder. :pout:

I consider myself more of a herder :biggrin:

Haha this. I think it's selective hoarding? In that you're not hoarding everything in existence, just plastic things with pretty manes and tails. I do genuinely have too many ponies for the space I currently have, so storage has become creative, and that poses some issues. But while I could sell most of my other smaller collection things (and I have already parted with most, just a downsized MH and Jem really left), I can't sell my ponies.

Still hoping that one day I will have that pony room though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on October 11, 2019, 06:02:28 PM
I may not even be interested in gen 5 if it ever comes out. The way things have gone I dont have my hopes up.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 11, 2019, 06:07:39 PM
I may not even be interested in gen 5 if it ever comes out. The way things have gone I dont have my hopes up.

I hear ya. Let's just hope it doesn't suck like 3.5 and 4 have.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on October 11, 2019, 06:51:53 PM
I liked 3.5 I have most of them except for one mom pony.  Gen four started out good but then BAM main six times 100.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 11, 2019, 07:17:35 PM
I liked 3.5 I have most of them except for one mom pony.  Gen four started out good but then BAM main six times 100.

x 1million hundred thousand.  :pout:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on October 11, 2019, 07:25:19 PM
I liked 3.5 I have most of them except for one mom pony.  Gen four started out good but then BAM main six times 100.

Agreed. I like many aspects about G3.5. How they look, the quality, I love how the ponies have different hairstyles, and different heights. It's just a shame it was still all Core 7. If they had tried remaking other G3 ponies in G3.5 molds, or just made more new ponies altogether aside from just the moms, it would have been much better I think. It's just, being Core 7 brings it down hard, by making it less fun to collect due to the smaller number of ponies.

And with G4 yeah, it started out fine, but as time went on the variety became worse and worse. I think if Hasbro really do want to keep having a core cast of ponies like they'd been doing since 2008, they need to find a better balance between core pony releases and other ponies. Other toylines seem to handle this balance perfectly fine, but Hasbro seems to really be struggling with it when it comes to MLP... I'm sure there's a potential good balance somewhere... I hope they can find it for G5 if they really are going to rehash the Mane 6 again.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 11, 2019, 07:36:09 PM
I liked 3.5 I have most of them except for one mom pony.  Gen four started out good but then BAM main six times 100.

Agreed. I like many aspects about G3.5. How they look, the quality, I love how the ponies have different hairstyles, and different heights. It's just a shame it was still all Core 7. If they had tried remaking other G3 ponies in G3.5 molds, or just made more new ponies altogether aside from just the moms, it would have been much better I think. It's just, being Core 7 brings it down hard, by making it less fun to collect due to the smaller number of ponies.

And with G4 yeah, it started out fine, but as time went on the variety became worse and worse. I think if Hasbro really do want to keep having a core cast of ponies like they'd been doing since 2008, they need to find a better balance between core pony releases and other ponies. Other toylines seem to handle this balance perfectly fine, but Hasbro seems to really be struggling with it when it comes to MLP... I'm sure there's a potential good balance somewhere... I hope they can find it for G5 if they really are going to rehash the Mane 6 again.

Which is annoying considering they handle that balance quite well in their other toyline.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on October 12, 2019, 07:27:05 AM
I liked 3.5 I have most of them except for one mom pony.  Gen four started out good but then BAM main six times 100.

Agreed. I like many aspects about G3.5. How they look, the quality, I love how the ponies have different hairstyles, and different heights. It's just a shame it was still all Core 7. If they had tried remaking other G3 ponies in G3.5 molds, or just made more new ponies altogether aside from just the moms, it would have been much better I think. It's just, being Core 7 brings it down hard, by making it less fun to collect due to the smaller number of ponies.

And with G4 yeah, it started out fine, but as time went on the variety became worse and worse. I think if Hasbro really do want to keep having a core cast of ponies like they'd been doing since 2008, they need to find a better balance between core pony releases and other ponies. Other toylines seem to handle this balance perfectly fine, but Hasbro seems to really be struggling with it when it comes to MLP... I'm sure there's a potential good balance somewhere... I hope they can find it for G5 if they really are going to rehash the Mane 6 again.

Which is annoying considering they handle that balance quite well in their other toyline.
They did handle it fine at one point. The early years of g3. We had re-releases of Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Minty and even as we starting getting into the 25th anniversary (very early on) you knew who the main cast was (especially if you watched the movies) but they weren't in your face. I don't even know why there needs to be a main cast. G1 and g3 were fine without it. (And even g2 but I don't know enough about it) And maybe quality has a play in it too, because the 25th's had good quality and different skits that still made me wanna buy them. And even when Minty kept getting re-released she was different every time.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on October 12, 2019, 07:39:10 AM
They did handle it fine at one point. The early years of g3. We had re-releases of Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Minty and even as we starting getting into the 25th anniversary (very early on) you knew who the main cast was (especially if you watched the movies) but they weren't in your face. I don't even know why there needs to be a main cast. G1 and g3 were fine without it. (And even g2 but I don't know enough about it) And maybe quality has a play in it too, because the 25th's had good quality and different skits that still made me wanna buy them. And even when Minty kept getting re-released she was different every time.

Yeah, that's what makes it really frustrating. They were doing fine with the concept before, but then Core 7 came along and they haven't been able to find that balance again since, even though G4 did move on from being strictly core ponies like Core 7 era G3 was, it's still way too many core/main ponies compared to other ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 12, 2019, 10:06:04 AM
Whatever the quality of the finale, and the later seasons - I don't feel the show is ending "with a whimper not a bang" as at least some people here seem to.  The show did ultimately become a shadow of its former self, but it will always mean a lot to me, and I feel that the fandoms (both this one and the brony one - both of which I feel part of) will continue to keep it alive in memory, conversation and fandom.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 12, 2019, 10:40:29 AM
I liked 3.5 I have most of them except for one mom pony.  Gen four started out good but then BAM main six times 100.

Agreed. I like many aspects about G3.5. How they look, the quality, I love how the ponies have different hairstyles, and different heights. It's just a shame it was still all Core 7. If they had tried remaking other G3 ponies in G3.5 molds, or just made more new ponies altogether aside from just the moms, it would have been much better I think. It's just, being Core 7 brings it down hard, by making it less fun to collect due to the smaller number of ponies.

And with G4 yeah, it started out fine, but as time went on the variety became worse and worse. I think if Hasbro really do want to keep having a core cast of ponies like they'd been doing since 2008, they need to find a better balance between core pony releases and other ponies. Other toylines seem to handle this balance perfectly fine, but Hasbro seems to really be struggling with it when it comes to MLP... I'm sure there's a potential good balance somewhere... I hope they can find it for G5 if they really are going to rehash the Mane 6 again.

Which is annoying considering they handle that balance quite well in their other toyline.
They did handle it fine at one point. The early years of g3. We had re-releases of Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Minty and even as we starting getting into the 25th anniversary (very early on) you knew who the main cast was (especially if you watched the movies) but they weren't in your face. I don't even know why there needs to be a main cast. G1 and g3 were fine without it. (And even g2 but I don't know enough about it) And maybe quality has a play in it too, because the 25th's had good quality and different skits that still made me wanna buy them. And even when Minty kept getting re-released she was different every time.

Yes I'm quite aware of that being a long time fan. I'm talking about 3.5/4.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 12, 2019, 03:26:43 PM
G1, G2, G3 and G4 all tried the main cast thing, but to differing degrees. G1 ended before it could become monotonous. G2 worked repeat characters into new styles alongside new characters, albeit the fact it endured in Europe and there are name changes, symbol changes etc means it's harder to pick out. G3 went wild on original characters with a few on repeat until core 7 swept away its soul. I don't have a comment really on what 3.5 did as I don't know much about it, but G4 didn't begin with that bad a mindset. The problem came later, when they did away with the variety and just honed in on mane 6. But a bit problem here was that some of the variety ponies that DID happen had poor distribution or just didn't make it (like Haven Bay, for example).

G4 wasn't ALL m6. But it put too much into it. The core cast idea is not a bad one. It just has to have balance.

Monster High (original generation) is a good example of how core cast can be done well and right, albeit I feel it's easier to do with dolls than with ponies. Of all the pony generations, though, in terms of integrating core cast with wider cast, in my humble and perhaps unpopular opinion...the one that succeeded the most was G2.

Ironically, given that Hasbro US did not really have much involvement in that beyond the start.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Sunset on October 17, 2019, 07:22:28 PM
I don't really like ponies who have a different mane color than tail color.  I'm not talking about ponies with a stripe in their mane but ponies who have a pink mane and a purple tail (for example).  It looks off to me.  Why couldn't they just use the same color?

I totally agree with this.  I was just looking at a g3 Pegasus, the one with the starfish, and she has two colors in her mane and a totally different color for her tail.  All the colors go well with each other.  I just really with that she had a third stripe of the tail color in her mane.

This is also why I don’t like how Hasbro does rainbow hair since g3 with the warm colors in the mane and the cool colors in the tail.  It looks off balance to me.  And to add insult to injury, I prefer the cool colors which get the short end of the stick being stuck in the ever decreasing size of the tail.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on October 18, 2019, 07:03:29 AM
I've decided that the original My Little Pony Movie is a Halloween movie.  It has witches, goblins, a giant spider, a blob that tries to take over everything, and plants that attack people...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 18, 2019, 11:21:59 AM
I've decided that the original My Little Pony Movie is a Halloween movie.  It has witches, goblins, a giant spider, a blob that tries to take over everything, and plants that attack people...

Hmm. That's an interesting take and I never thought of it that way. Hasbro missed a chance to have it in autumn.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: AnnaPommes on October 18, 2019, 11:45:17 AM
i do not like the original flutter wings. O.O i am sorry. what is that?  Wingers are perfect. XD All my original flutters get replacement butterfly wings from PKW.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on October 19, 2019, 09:59:00 AM
I liked 3.5 I have most of them except for one mom pony.  Gen four started out good but then BAM main six times 100.

Agreed. I like many aspects about G3.5. How they look, the quality, I love how the ponies have different hairstyles, and different heights. It's just a shame it was still all Core 7. If they had tried remaking other G3 ponies in G3.5 molds, or just made more new ponies altogether aside from just the moms, it would have been much better I think. It's just, being Core 7 brings it down hard, by making it less fun to collect due to the smaller number of ponies.

And with G4 yeah, it started out fine, but as time went on the variety became worse and worse. I think if Hasbro really do want to keep having a core cast of ponies like they'd been doing since 2008, they need to find a better balance between core pony releases and other ponies. Other toylines seem to handle this balance perfectly fine, but Hasbro seems to really be struggling with it when it comes to MLP... I'm sure there's a potential good balance somewhere... I hope they can find it for G5 if they really are going to rehash the Mane 6 again.

Which is annoying considering they handle that balance quite well in their other toyline.
They did handle it fine at one point. The early years of g3. We had re-releases of Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Minty and even as we starting getting into the 25th anniversary (very early on) you knew who the main cast was (especially if you watched the movies) but they weren't in your face. I don't even know why there needs to be a main cast. G1 and g3 were fine without it. (And even g2 but I don't know enough about it) And maybe quality has a play in it too, because the 25th's had good quality and different skits that still made me wanna buy them. And even when Minty kept getting re-released she was different every time.

Yes I'm quite aware of that being a long time fan. I'm talking about 3.5/4.
Yeah. I needed to rant on it, even though it won't change a single darn thing.  :P At least g3.5 had quality. And even though g4 had the balance early on, they totally ditched that concept. It doesn't help that the few diverse ponies they did make aged horribly 😔

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Unpopular opinion: I'm not excited for g5. Or is this...a popular opinion? I can't tell I've heard mixed feelings on that.
Anyway, if Hasbro just told us one day they were dropping My Little Pony, I might not care too much? That sounds awful but after dealing with my g4s yesterday I just was so annoyed by the quality. I guess if g5 bombs we still have Basic Fun and HQG1Cs.
Although. I am quite curious about g5 in a way. Maybe it'll be good and I'm griping for no reason. 🤣

My other unpopular opinions: I don't like Happy Tails ponies or Dance 'n Prances. They look weird and have boring or odd color schemes. Not that I'd turn them down if I find them but I'm not searching. Maybe its an opinion that would change if I saw one irl. Maybe I'll have to buy one sometime to see.
I don't mind frizzy hair. Of course I dislike it when it feels like Velcro but out-of-control tinsel? That's fine. Very frizzy, Locket style? Just adds to the 80's charm. Factory curls are amazing. And I don't mind them messed up. Would I prefer them nice, yeah, but messy is cool too. I guess I didn't notice the g4.5's quality until people pointed it out. Also, haircuts don't bother me much either. Not buzzcuts but bobs are actually cute! Or at least on g3s
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 19, 2019, 10:26:01 AM
G4s diversity has always been utter crap. Everything not the core cast and a few fan faves are almost always relegated to blind bags/moulded figs.

When G4 was starting and it eventually dawned on me that they weren't ponyville, I was just aware of it to not see much more then 6 characters + luna/nightmare moon, celestia, cadence, shining armor, lira heartstrings and the odd character like sweetie drops, trixie lulamoon, gold lily, sterling and dj pony. That's not MY idea of balanced diversity. Especially compared to its predecessors.

I know distribution is different in different areas, but even in the supposed golden days that you people are talking about, I barely saw squat.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on October 19, 2019, 10:31:13 AM
Well, we did have Lulu Luck, Snow Catcher, Cupcake ect. They were awesome and probably the best of g4. Such a short run though. If they had continued every line like that, even if they did keep re-releasing the main 6, I'd certainly appreciate that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 19, 2019, 10:53:14 AM
Here's my piece on the mane 6 releases. Popular opinion but whatever.
I understand wanting to have core characters released every so often. You will have new kids come into the show and want to play with their favorite characters, and it would suck to not have those avaliable. I think it would be cool to have, like, we have the mane 6 avaliable now as singles in a weird tube-lookin' thing. Maybe keep that, release a new pose each year or whatever, so kids can pick their favorites.
Now, for the rest of the line, different characters! Use the show to sell the toys! For season 4, for example, had great potential. We could have had:
-Mane 6 tube releases. These could be taken away though, because we'll have...
-Story/Accessory double packs-Coco Pommel, Cheese Sandwich, etc. all with relevant accessories AND paired with a mane 6 character, Rainbowfied! Wouldn't kids go bonkers for that?
-ANTAGONIST SINGLES! Kids would ALSO go bonkers for this!
-Background character singles-Could also work in some toy only characters here! No mane 6 allowed, just the background characters/original characters to flesh out the toy-worlds
-The big playset of the year-the tree of harmony OR Twilight's castle that actually looks somewhat accurate! This would could have been a giant wall of a castle, even, as long as it looked like the castle. What we got instead was pathetic. (Comes with Tirek, Discord, and the exclusive rainbowfied twilight! oo!)
If G5 is media-driven again, I will be not upset if we actually get some of the different characters featured. It's great potential for stuff. People love stuff.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on October 20, 2019, 07:09:05 AM
Maybe popular opinion?

I wish they released an actual brushable Flurry Heart, a Shining Armor with a fringe (I think he always got a mohawk when it came to brushables) gave Chrysalis a proper mold (Not just the generic princess mold) and gave Cadence nice gradient pink to purple wings.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on October 20, 2019, 07:13:04 AM
Maybe popular opinion?

I wish they released an actual brushable Flurry Heart, a Shining Armor with a fringe (I think he always got a mohawk when it came to brushables) gave Chrysalis a proper mold (Not just the generic princess mold) and gave Cadence nice gradient pink to purple wings.
The original Shining Armor has troll hair, and all you have to do is smooth it down. At least that's what I did, though it took a while to keep down, but its cute now. It looks more accurate than if they had given him normal hair (it wouldn't have smoothed down as easily, and this is Hasbro. There would be no accuracy  -_- )
I agree about Flurry! She would look so nice as a brushable not a little bit of plastic. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on October 20, 2019, 07:28:33 AM
Maybe popular opinion?

I wish they released an actual brushable Flurry Heart

IA. They could have done a brushable foal version of Flurry Heart and virtually nobody would have complained. Virtually not literally because McFlurry-haters complain about any- and everything that involves her :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 20, 2019, 10:53:37 AM
Maybe popular opinion?

I wish they released an actual brushable Flurry Heart, a Shining Armor with a fringe (I think he always got a mohawk when it came to brushables) gave Chrysalis a proper mold (Not just the generic princess mold) and gave Cadence nice gradient pink to purple wings.

I'd like that too. Horses having roached manes=pure suckage.

Would like a Flurryheart in a more horsey looking gen.

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Maybe popular opinion?

I wish they released an actual brushable Flurry Heart

IA. They could have done a brushable foal version of Flurry Heart and virtually nobody would have complained. Virtually not literally because McFlurry-haters complain about any- and everything that involves her :lol:

I really want a mcflurrys now. Mmm m n m..or reeses.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BubbleTea on October 20, 2019, 11:30:26 PM
Maybe popular opinion?

I wish they released an actual brushable Flurry Heart, a Shining Armor with a fringe (I think he always got a mohawk when it came to brushables) gave Chrysalis a proper mold (Not just the generic princess mold) and gave Cadence nice gradient pink to purple wings.

I'd like that too. Horses having roached manes=pure suckage.

Would like a Flurryheart in a more horsey looking gen.

Post Merge: October 20, 2019, 10:53:58 AM

Maybe popular opinion?

I wish they released an actual brushable Flurry Heart

IA. They could have done a brushable foal version of Flurry Heart and virtually nobody would have complained. Virtually not literally because McFlurry-haters complain about any- and everything that involves her :lol:

I really want a mcflurrys now. Mmm m n m..or reeses.

Saaaaame. My favorite is the M&M one  :dribble:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on October 21, 2019, 05:21:48 AM
I've decided that the original My Little Pony Movie is a Halloween movie.  It has witches, goblins, a giant spider, a blob that tries to take over everything, and plants that attack people...
Not to mention it has grave robbing, ghosts, undead, actual blood (at G rating!), torture devices and some pretty disturbing implications...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on October 21, 2019, 05:53:08 AM
I've decided that the original My Little Pony Movie is a Halloween movie.  It has witches, goblins, a giant spider, a blob that tries to take over everything, and plants that attack people...
Not to mention it has grave robbing, ghosts, undead, actual blood (at G rating!), torture devices and some pretty disturbing implications...
!!!! Seriously? That would never fly today!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on October 21, 2019, 06:15:49 AM
I've decided that the original My Little Pony Movie is a Halloween movie.  It has witches, goblins, a giant spider, a blob that tries to take over everything, and plants that attack people...
Not to mention it has grave robbing, ghosts, undead, actual blood (at G rating!), torture devices and some pretty disturbing implications...

Where was there blood in the MLP movie?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lilja on October 21, 2019, 06:54:32 AM
Hydia steps on a bug and it turns into a big puddle. Technically insects don't have blood, but I guess it's kind of gruesome. As is the fact they eat live animals in a world where animals appear to have sentience. (but of course they don't eat any "cute" ones, just bats, worms etc.)

Also the witches are said to have genocided the grundles with their smooze, and maybe other creatures before them. There are dark implications, but all of these are in the background, glossed over or undermined by the extreme goofiness of the witches. There's nothing in this movie that would be deemed unacceptable today. (Well, maybe the blatant commercialism :lol:)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on October 21, 2019, 07:52:13 AM
Hydia steps on a bug and it turns into a big puddle. Technically insects don't have blood, but I guess it's kind of gruesome. As is the fact they eat live animals in a world where animals appear to have sentience. (but of course they don't eat any "cute" ones, just bats, worms etc.)

Also the witches are said to have genocided the grundles with their smooze, and maybe other creatures before them. There are dark implications, but all of these are in the background, glossed over or undermined by the extreme goofiness of the witches. There's nothing in this movie that would be deemed unacceptable today. (Well, maybe the blatant commercialism :lol:)

Also, when discussing their family history there's mention of cannibalism.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 21, 2019, 11:18:35 PM
*Gasp* But wait, guys, surely G1 is all about tea parties and silly girly things like that?? *rolls eyes*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 22, 2019, 08:58:20 AM
I like the Surf Shop playset over the Butterfly Island playset.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on October 22, 2019, 10:11:37 AM
*Gasp* But wait, guys, surely G1 is all about tea parties and silly girly things like that?? *rolls eyes*

People really need to retire that mindset and watch some MLP 'n Friends and movie specials. FiM's Rainbow Roadtrip was a snoozefest compared to Escape from Catrina (who enslaves a whole race to make drugs for her, lmao).
Or Rescue at Midnight Castle where not only wants the bad guy an endless night, he also kidnapped ponies, enslaved them, turned them into beasts to pull his dumb chariot and fuel his ego. Nightmare Moon's chariot is pulled by volunteers :lol:

When G3 had a teaparty it was done in musical form. And I remember one tea playset. G4 Fluttershy on the other hand was always having tea. Even her Halloween party was a tea party. So which generation is obsessed with tea parties now? :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 22, 2019, 10:30:52 AM
Speaking of Rainbow Roadtrip, I was pretty underwhelmed by it but I wouldn't mind if G5 went in that direction? I feel like it won't, but I sort of like the easy, low stakes, relaxing video.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on October 22, 2019, 10:50:29 AM
Speaking of Rainbow Roadtrip, I was pretty underwhelmed by it but I wouldn't mind if G5 went in that direction? I feel like it won't, but I sort of like the easy, low stakes, relaxing video.

So you want G3? :lol:
I think relaxing and low stakes can be perfectly combined with adventure and high stakes. See MLP 'n Friends. Btw, one of my fave episodes is Mish Mash Melee where the ponies switch personalities. That's relatively low stakes but was lots of fun. Rainbow Roadtrip was low stakes but boring.
It was one episode stretched to become a movie and that's why I think it wasted potential. They could have thrown more of a threat in there and it would have still contained lots of relaxed scenes because of the long runtime. In fact, all of that "Twilight is chosen to become ruler" stuff could have been in Rainbow Roadtrip but they made it a one-shot quest.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 22, 2019, 11:21:58 AM
Eh, if I want laid back and low stakes I'll take Tales. Although the Runaway Rainbow and Ladybug Jambooree was awfully cute. I still haven't seen Faraway Friends or well, most G3 stuff.
 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 22, 2019, 02:53:06 PM
So you want G3? :lol:
Ok, good point. :P
Tales is actually my favorite cartoon of the two series...es so maybe something in that vein. But Tales is weird and totally would be ridiculed today if it came out. I love how weird it is.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on October 22, 2019, 03:43:54 PM
Unpopular opinion: I didn't like the Pony Tales cartoon. It was just.....Poorly written to me. To be fair, I have bad memories surrounding the cartoon so it might have to do with that. Although it was wholesome enough so I wouldn't mind something similar, and I did like the characters.
Maybe to uhh... Help me forget the drama and disturbing content of FIM, G3 style would be the way to go with g5, to even it out. One gen can be more for the older audience (12, 13, 14 ect.) (but still for kids obviously, they better not forget that) but also do gens that cater to younger kids. I personally want them to keep it how they had it before FIM but that's not going to happen now. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 22, 2019, 05:52:48 PM
MLP's media should NEVER try to cater to adults. Its not that kind of show. Its not Airbender or some rated r anime. Its an adventurous but innocent girls show and it was the worst thing they ever did and they're too stupid and arrogant to realize how much damage they've done.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shadowperla on October 22, 2019, 06:11:53 PM
MLP's media should NEVER try to cater to adults. Its not that kind of show. Its not Airbender or some rated r anime. Its an adventurous but innocent girls show and it was the worst thing they ever did and they're too stupid and arrogant to realize how much damage they've done.
Can I marry yu
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on October 22, 2019, 06:20:28 PM
MLP's media should NEVER try to cater to adults. Its not that kind of show. Its not Airbender or some rated r anime. Its an adventurous but innocent girls show and it was the worst thing they ever did and they're too stupid and arrogant to realize how much damage they've done.
Exactly. To me,as old as they should go audience wise is middle school aged. Obviously adults can enjoy it but they must NEVER forget that there are little kids watching. There are adults that are literally contacting the crew members to put swearing, scanty clothing and absolute dirty jokes in this show. And instead of blocking, not responding they play along and approve of it. Its getting to the point where I'm uncomfortable to even WATCH it, much less be anywhere near that fandom. G3 had adults enjoying it, yet there was no issues with that. As mature as g5 should be is as mature as g1 was. I'm 19 so obviously I grew up with FIM. I appreciated the shift in audience that it catered to early on, (which I thought was teens/pre-teens) or as Lauren Faust had it, I was dealing with thinking I was "too old" for g3 and LOVED that g4 was more mature and exciting. I loved the characters, plots and everything else. But after much of the crew left, including Faust, it became a wreck. I was glad that I grew to love g3 again. I also realized that MLP in general should stick with being for younger kids. And honestly? You can cater to adults and teens without making it unsafe for kids. They had that balance in the early seasons, but for some reason screwed up big time on it. I don't really want to rant on how "bad" FIM is because I know there are a lot of people on this site and in our little group of pony lovers who adore it. I like it too, but I realize its the crew that screwed up and more  so a fandom issue than the show its self. They tested out the more mature theme on it, it happened. Now lets move on and hope g5 is safe for kids again.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on October 22, 2019, 07:16:37 PM
MLP's media should NEVER try to cater to adults. Its not that kind of show. Its not Airbender or some rated r anime. Its an adventurous but innocent girls show and it was the worst thing they ever did and they're too stupid and arrogant to realize how much damage they've done.
Exactly. To me,as old as they should go audience wise is middle school aged. Obviously adults can enjoy it but they must NEVER forget that there are little kids watching. There are adults that are literally contacting the crew members to put swearing, scanty clothing and absolute dirty jokes in this show. And instead of blocking, not responding they play along and approve of it. Its getting to the point where I'm uncomfortable to even WATCH it, much less be anywhere near that fandom. G3 had adults enjoying it, yet there was no issues with that. As mature as g5 should be is as mature as g1 was. I'm 19 so obviously I grew up with FIM. I appreciated the shift in audience that it catered to early on, (which I thought was teens/pre-teens) or as Lauren Faust had it, I was dealing with thinking I was "too old" for g3 and LOVED that g4 was more mature and exciting. I loved the characters, plots and everything else. But after much of the crew left, including Faust, it became a wreck. I was glad that I grew to love g3 again. I also realized that MLP in general should stick with being for younger kids. And honestly? You can cater to adults and teens without making it unsafe for kids. They had that balance in the early seasons, but for some reason screwed up big time on it. I don't really want to rant on how "bad" FIM is because I know there are a lot of people on this site and in our little group of pony lovers who adore it. I like it too, but I realize its the crew that screwed up and more  so a fandom issue than the show its self. They tested out the more mature theme on it, it happened. Now lets move on and hope g5 is safe for kids again.

I've never seen anything in the show itself that would be objectionable to allow kids to watch. Fandom spaces are another story and I do wish the adult fans would have stuck to their own spaces.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on October 22, 2019, 07:18:58 PM
MLP's media should NEVER try to cater to adults. Its not that kind of show. Its not Airbender or some rated r anime. Its an adventurous but innocent girls show and it was the worst thing they ever did and they're too stupid and arrogant to realize how much damage they've done.
Exactly. To me,as old as they should go audience wise is middle school aged. Obviously adults can enjoy it but they must NEVER forget that there are little kids watching. There are adults that are literally contacting the crew members to put swearing, scanty clothing and absolute dirty jokes in this show. And instead of blocking, not responding they play along and approve of it. Its getting to the point where I'm uncomfortable to even WATCH it, much less be anywhere near that fandom. G3 had adults enjoying it, yet there was no issues with that. As mature as g5 should be is as mature as g1 was. I'm 19 so obviously I grew up with FIM. I appreciated the shift in audience that it catered to early on, (which I thought was teens/pre-teens) or as Lauren Faust had it, I was dealing with thinking I was "too old" for g3 and LOVED that g4 was more mature and exciting. I loved the characters, plots and everything else. But after much of the crew left, including Faust, it became a wreck. I was glad that I grew to love g3 again. I also realized that MLP in general should stick with being for younger kids. And honestly? You can cater to adults and teens without making it unsafe for kids. They had that balance in the early seasons, but for some reason screwed up big time on it. I don't really want to rant on how "bad" FIM is because I know there are a lot of people on this site and in our little group of pony lovers who adore it. I like it too, but I realize its the crew that screwed up and more  so a fandom issue than the show its self. They tested out the more mature theme on it, it happened. Now lets move on and hope g5 is safe for kids again.

I've never seen anything in the show itself that would be objectionable to allow kids to watch. Fandom spaces are another story and I do wish the adult fans would have stuck to their own spaces.
The show's issue is that it became a fan service, which is questionable. These are people in charge of making content for kids. Its sad that they have no issue with talking to people who make NSFW content that kids and even fans who want nothing to do with it come across. Yes with the internet all shows have this. MLP is not the only one going through this. But what I've seen is more...Shame be given in other fandoms that keep a lot of dirty content hidden. The MLP staff just thinks it funny, and it made me uncomfortable going to Twitter or such. Its not even small amounts its EVERYWHERE and the creators are not in the dark what so ever. I found stuff when I was ten and the internet wasn't nearly what it is now, so I only imagine that its much worse now. So no, as I did state, its not the show itself, but who's working on it. And the staff has no concern about what's going on either. Of course, not all the staff is like this. The only reason watching it makes me uncomfortable is because of what I've come across, and what I've stated above.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 23, 2019, 11:28:08 AM
I think Mom and Baby Up Up and Away are very cute and underrated TAFs. like them with white hair better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on October 23, 2019, 11:41:20 AM
I think Mom and Baby Up Up and Away are very cute and underrated TAFs. like them with white hair better.
IKR like Baby Up up and away goes for way less than the other 5. I like mommy Up up and away with white hair but to me her baby looks better with pink.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 27, 2019, 12:15:39 PM
I love purple/yellow as a color combination. Such a classic. I will never tire of it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on October 27, 2019, 01:02:28 PM
I love purple/yellow as a color combination. Such a classic. I will never tire of it.
I 100% agree. Autumn Crisp is an example, and one of my faves :heart: :lovey:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on October 27, 2019, 01:30:42 PM
Orange and green ponies are the best! Long live Argies!

:throw:  :bolt:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 27, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
Orange and green ponies are the best! Long live Argies!

:throw:  :bolt:

Spring Parade? And Gardener are remarkably pretty ponies and this is coming from someone who doesn't like orange very much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 27, 2019, 04:23:04 PM
Orange and green ponies are the best! Long live Argies!

:throw:  :bolt:

Spring Parade?

Lucozade pony! I think Spring Parade may be her actual name, but she's Lucozade to me now...

Applejack set the trend for orange ponies and Berry Bright is best G2 pony, so orange is good with me.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 27, 2019, 07:10:18 PM
Orange and green ponies are the best! Long live Argies!

:throw:  :bolt:

Spring Parade?

Lucozade pony! I think Spring Parade may be her actual name, but she's Lucozade to me now...

Applejack set the trend for orange ponies and Berry Bright is best G2 pony, so orange is good with me.

The orange/green g3 with the hippie flower symbol.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on October 28, 2019, 05:24:37 AM
Eh, if I want laid back and low stakes I'll take Tales. Although the Runaway Rainbow and Ladybug Jambooree was awfully cute. I still haven't seen Faraway Friends or well, most G3 stuff.

I can recommend watching Minty Christmas around Christmas time. Minty almost gets herself killed trying to pilot a balloon in stormy weather all on her own.
It's also legit funny how the other ponies react to Minty. It's like Pinkie Pie has just given up trying to understand her :lol:

Not sure if this is an unpopular opinion on the Arena but I'd take Minty Christmas over the FiM Hearth's Warming episodes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 28, 2019, 07:11:30 AM
Eh, if I want laid back and low stakes I'll take Tales. Although the Runaway Rainbow and Ladybug Jambooree was awfully cute. I still haven't seen Faraway Friends or well, most G3 stuff.

I can recommend watching Minty Christmas around Christmas time. Minty almost gets herself killed trying to pilot a balloon in stormy weather all on her own.
It's also legit funny how the other ponies react to Minty. It's like Pinkie Pie has just given up trying to understand her :lol:

Not sure if this is an unpopular opinion on the Arena but I'd take Minty Christmas over the FiM Hearth's Warming episodes.

I've seen a Minty Christmas, it was so-so. Pinkie and Thistle had a couple of good lines. Minty seems to have this effect of sucking all the anger out of ponies, like they wanna get mad at her, but they end up resigned, confused and deflated instead.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on October 28, 2019, 11:25:47 AM
I've seen a Minty Christmas, it was so-so. Pinkie and Thistle had a couple of good lines.

"You broke Santa? :huh: "

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 28, 2019, 11:46:55 AM
Eh, if I want laid back and low stakes I'll take Tales. Although the Runaway Rainbow and Ladybug Jambooree was awfully cute. I still haven't seen Faraway Friends or well, most G3 stuff.

I can recommend watching Minty Christmas around Christmas time. Minty almost gets herself killed trying to pilot a balloon in stormy weather all on her own.
It's also legit funny how the other ponies react to Minty. It's like Pinkie Pie has just given up trying to understand her :lol:

Not sure if this is an unpopular opinion on the Arena but I'd take Minty Christmas over the FiM Hearth's Warming episodes.

I remember thinking that the Minty Christmas was cute, it's probably the only G3 animation I feel like that about (it's not a criticism, just a different target audience) but mostly for the song...I love the song more than the show.

I haven't seen the FIM Christmas eps so can't compare, but I'm not really a fan of FIM so...maybe I would agree with you. I dunno...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 28, 2019, 12:01:15 PM
I've seen a Minty Christmas, it was so-so. Pinkie and Thistle had a couple of good lines.

"You broke Santa? :huh: "

I chalk that up to her being tired and confused and probably exasperated. Poor Santa. Lol
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on October 28, 2019, 01:26:12 PM
Eh, if I want laid back and low stakes I'll take Tales. Although the Runaway Rainbow and Ladybug Jambooree was awfully cute. I still haven't seen Faraway Friends or well, most G3 stuff.

I can recommend watching Minty Christmas around Christmas time. Minty almost gets herself killed trying to pilot a balloon in stormy weather all on her own.
It's also legit funny how the other ponies react to Minty. It's like Pinkie Pie has just given up trying to understand her :lol:

Not sure if this is an unpopular opinion on the Arena but I'd take Minty Christmas over the FiM Hearth's Warming episodes.

I remember thinking that the Minty Christmas was cute, it's probably the only G3 animation I feel like that about (it's not a criticism, just a different target audience) but mostly for the song...I love the song more than the show.

I haven't seen the FIM Christmas eps so can't compare, but I'm not really a fan of FIM so...maybe I would agree with you. I dunno...

Hearth's Warming Eve was boring, I watched it when it came out in 2011 and all I remember is that it was boring. Just Equestria lore stuff. The second one is, oh boy, a Christmas Carol adaptation. That automatically makes it terrible for me. I hate Christmas Carol stories in cartoons. And it's exactly like any other. I'd be okay with it if it was based off of it, like Starlight learns the True Meaning of Christmas or something. But, no, it's just ponies telling the entire story as it exactly is. Best Gift Ever I would recommend over Hearth's Warming and the Christmas Carol one. It's nice but predictable. But nice.

Minty is still better though. Maybe it's nostalgia, but it's more Christmasy. Best Gift Ever is just ponies shopping for each other, hardly even celebrating.

Too bad G3 never got a Halloween special, or one set in the fall. I remember the Nightmare Night episode with Luna being really fun, I liked it, and it felt like Halloween, I think. I didn't feel that with The Scare Master. I don't like that one either. I don't know if it's a popular opinion or not. Fluttershy is already... not in my top 3 ponies list. How come when she steps out of her comfort zone in episodes, she always goes too far? Her mind immediately went to "trapping everyone underground and Granny Smith's head falling off", huh?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on October 28, 2019, 02:36:27 PM
Minty's Christmas is full blast childhood. I love it sm. I watch it every year! Definitely one of the best g3 specials.

I agree with Ragamuffin, I would of liked a Halloween special as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on October 29, 2019, 11:47:29 AM
A G3 special featuring the G3 fall/Halloween ponies - imo some of the best designs in the entire line - would have been really cool. I would have loved to see a G3 show instead of "just" specials. The G3 designs had a lot of variety and it would have been easy to spin stories based on that.

That being said, while I hate how Zecora is a token, wise witchdoctor stereotype in FiM, I really like Kimono in G3. She was also just a token, wise sensei stereotype but I really miss her in the later specials.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shadowperla on November 03, 2019, 01:48:25 PM
(due to the new designs) Feathered hooves don't belong on MLP (even g2, I'd sandpaper it away if able), smooth legs are the trademark thing. Hasbro is trying to make series into its on ripoff(
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on November 03, 2019, 01:50:37 PM
^ But G1 boys had feathered hooves?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 03, 2019, 01:53:07 PM
^ But G1 boys had feathered hooves?

So true. Its not a rip-off if its been implemented before. Just an occasional design choice.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shadowperla on November 03, 2019, 01:53:39 PM
^ But G1 boys had feathered hooves?
As a gimmick it's ok, not whole series is what I meant ^^'
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on November 03, 2019, 05:17:58 PM
I like the new designs a lot.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on November 03, 2019, 06:02:59 PM
I like the new designs a lot.

Haha, I was just coming in here to say something similar. They're nothing amazing, but for something that'll just be on the shelves for a year or so before G5 actually begins, I'm fine with them. :) I'd much rather have these new style G4s on the shelves next year rather than them continuing the current molds, considering the character variety is going to be just as bad no matter what. Since they do look different I will be picking them up due to being a different mold style. While if we got another year of Mane 6 in the same molds I probably would not buy any.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on November 03, 2019, 06:10:43 PM
I like the new designs a lot.

Haha, I was just coming in here to say something similar. They're nothing amazing, but for something that'll just be on the shelves for a year or so before G5 actually begins, I'm fine with them. :) I'd much rather have these new style G4s on the shelves next year rather than them continuing the current molds, considering the character variety is going to be just a bad no matter what. Since they do look different I will be picking them up due to being a different mold style. While if we got another year of Mane 6 in the same molds I probably would not buy any.

I hope they're all fashion style size or that the accessories could fit G3s... :lookround: I'd probably wait until they're at Five Below or something though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 04, 2019, 07:06:48 AM
I'm not crazy about the G1 Pegasus sets. Why did they only get four ponies when the Earthies and Unicorns got 8? Why only 2 poses when the others got 4? I don't dislike them, but they just don't grab me. Also, I wish Medley had been reissued on the Paradise pose.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 04, 2019, 11:42:08 AM
I'm not crazy about the G1 Pegasus sets. Why did they only get four ponies when the Earthies and Unicorns got 8? Why only 2 poses when the others got 4? I don't dislike them, but they just don't grab me. Also, I wish Medley had been reissued on the Paradise pose.

More Medleys? Sold :D

I would have liked her in another pose too. I love her but yeah :/ Firefly got one. And she's not even half as nice as Medley. (Hey, it is the unpopular opinion thread so I can say that xD)

I don't find Firefly iconic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 04, 2019, 11:57:19 AM
I am incredibly charmed by the G4.75 ponies, buut I do tend to love the weirder ponies because they look...weird.
I don't find Firefly iconic.
I don't think I can really speak on that because she's...been forced to be iconic as far as I can remember, but I do think she's quite boring visually. I've also had my opinion of her soured because she's, like, the "cooool" pony in the sea of girly ponies or whatever (which she isn't, but man is she clung to by the Brownies). There are plenty other ponies that are interesting and more iconic (Cotton Candy??), but this one kicked the villain because G1 was metal.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on November 04, 2019, 12:16:06 PM
Firefly's adventure Firefly is much prettier. Pose and everything. She has a much better color scheme.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 04, 2019, 12:26:46 PM
Firefly's adventure Firefly is much prettier. Pose and everything. She has a much better color scheme.

I basically agree. I would have loved Medley in this pose.

As for Firefly's iconic status, over here RaMC was on VHS when I was a kid but not on TV, and we never had that set released here as toys, so it was basically the UK stories and UK comics that we had about Firefly overall. (And the Bronies like to trample all over those like they own them in their obsession with 'What Majesty Could Do In G1'...but Firefly had some idiot moments where she needed rescuing for being reckless or getting into trouble.

At least once by Medley.

I dunno. Firefly just never seemed that important or special to me.

(As for the Majesty thing - I dunno if this is a valid unpopular opinion but I wish the brony community would leave that alone. That, and the TEs being enslaved in the cave thing. I have seen it a couple of times, people claiming those as core parts of "G1 canon"...but G1 canon as a whole thing doesn't exist, and Majesty and the TEs came from the comics I grew up with...

They're not tools in whatever FIM related analysis is top of the list today. It's not that I don't want the comic stuff to be shared around but if you're going to cherry pick stuff from the UK comics, at least bother to know what you're talking about before you do it...?

I've seen a  few "everyone knows that Majesty was x/the tE ponies were enslaved in mines...etc" posts (and one youtube video that cites the wrong comic for the TE thing while making out it's something core to G1) and it's just annoying to me.


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on November 04, 2019, 01:31:24 PM
Yeah, I don't get why a lot of G4 fans act like there's one, single, sole, G1 canon. There's lots of different G1 continuities! It's far from the only series/franchise/etc that has multiple continuities (Sailor Moon, anyone?). The pit pony backstory for the TEs is awesome (?? feels weird to describe something like that as "awesome", but... you get what I'm saying), but it's not the only backstory for them, guys! Not that I have any problem with mixing-and-matching stuff from various continuities (IMO that's half the fun of ponies, making up your own idea of Ponyland.. I've probably said before that that's one reason I dislike how show-centric G4 is), but acknowledge that you're doing that instead of just acting like these were universal concepts, dangit! :p
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 04, 2019, 01:36:01 PM
Yeah, I don't get why a lot of G4 fans act like there's one, single, sole, G1 canon. There's lots of different G1 continuities! It's far from the only series/franchise/etc that has multiple continuities (Sailor Moon, anyone?). The pit pony backstory for the TEs is awesome (?? feels weird to describe something like that as "awesome", but... you get what I'm saying), but it's not the only backstory for them, guys! Not that I have any problem with mixing-and-matching stuff from various continuities (IMO that's half the fun of ponies, making up your own idea of Ponyland.. I've probably said before that that's one reason I dislike how show-centric G4 is), but acknowledge that you're doing that instead of just acting like these were universal concepts, dangit! :p

Yes! That's it exactly. Thank you for putting it so nicely and much more clearly than I could :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 04, 2019, 01:56:46 PM
It's probably the same reason they view the G4 comics as "non-canon".  My Little Pony has often had more than one continuity, that can be considered it's own canon (backcards, comics, cartoon to name what I would say are the obvious three.)

I'm sure not all bronies are like this, but I have noticed ones who are.  I think those ones are still relatively new to how things work, but hey... at least they're showing some love to the past gens.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on November 05, 2019, 01:17:42 PM
But that doesn't make sense... they acknowledge that G4 can (and does) have multiple continuities (idk if "continuities" is exactly the right word here, since they're just different offshoots of the *same* continuity, but you get what I mean) and then with G1 they... don't, it's odd.

(snip)

Yes! That's it exactly. Thank you for putting it so nicely and much more clearly than I could :D

ah, np :o I'm glad I got my point across coherently, heh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 05, 2019, 04:00:44 PM
It's probably the same reason they view the G4 comics as "non-canon".  My Little Pony has often had more than one continuity, that can be considered it's own canon (backcards, comics, cartoon to name what I would say are the obvious three.)

I'm sure not all bronies are like this, but I have noticed ones who are.  I think those ones are still relatively new to how things work, but hey... at least they're showing some love to the past gens.

I am with Carrehz on this. There are so many double and triple standards over how all pony stuff is presented by large swathes of the bronyverse (and I acknowledge not all, but even some of the not crazy ones think they 'understand' G1 by talking about these 'G1 canon' moments.

For me especially, having grown up with that version of Majesty, they really don't have a clue what the comics say about her or how they render her character overall. They just pick two or three examples and then weave them into something that suits their argument. Claiming it's 'G1 canon'. It's just one version and only one slither of that version. In a sense it's no different from them writing fanfiction and claiming it as "pony fact"?

Not least the small detail that the largest G1 pony community is in the US and the toy is a US toy and that version of Majesty never existed stateside.

It's also like claiming Tales is G2 because they want it to be. I hate MLP being defined through animated series by pony fans who mostly don't care about anything prior to G4, but want to neatly confine everything by G4 rules because of a misconception that's how all MLP is defined.

As I said before, it's a case of knowing what you're talking about before making sweeping assumptions. Like pretending you understand or respect something by dropping a few random details about it while still keeping it at arm's length.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on November 06, 2019, 07:03:21 AM
It's also like claiming Tales is G2 because they want it to be.

This annoys me so much it should go into the trivial complaints thread :lol:
Like... HOW can G1 toy characters be part of a G2 cartoon but have zero appearance in the actual G2 toyline. Riddle me this. Is it really so hard to accept that G2 didn't have a cartoon show? Only three clicks on the internet could tell them this.
Click 1: Search tab
Click 2: Enter "MyLittleWiki"
Click 3: Select "G2" link

I used to watch FiM on a German site hosting all sorts of MLP media and since it is run by Bronies they call Tales "G2" and the G3 specials are listed as "episodes" of a fictional G3 show.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 06, 2019, 07:21:57 AM
It's also like claiming Tales is G2 because they want it to be.

This annoys me so much it should go into the trivial complaints thread :lol:
Like... HOW can G1 toy characters be part of a G2 cartoon but have zero appearance in the actual G2 toyline. Riddle me this. Is it really so hard to accept that G2 didn't have a cartoon show? Only three clicks on the internet could tell them this.
Click 1: Search tab
Click 2: Enter "MyLittleWiki"
Click 3: Select "G2" link

I used to watch FiM on a German site hosting all sorts of MLP media and since it is run by Bronies they call Tales "G2" and the G3 specials are listed as "episodes" of a fictional G3 show.

Because retconners are idiots.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 06, 2019, 08:32:02 AM
It's also like claiming Tales is G2 because they want it to be.

This annoys me so much it should go into the trivial complaints thread :lol:
Like... HOW can G1 toy characters be part of a G2 cartoon but have zero appearance in the actual G2 toyline. Riddle me this. Is it really so hard to accept that G2 didn't have a cartoon show? Only three clicks on the internet could tell them this.
Click 1: Search tab
Click 2: Enter "MyLittleWiki"
Click 3: Select "G2" link

I used to watch FiM on a German site hosting all sorts of MLP media and since it is run by Bronies they call Tales "G2" and the G3 specials are listed as "episodes" of a fictional G3 show.

Because retconners are idiots.

 :iconclap: to both these posts.

The G2 thing I add to my list of "reasons to lose respect in a brony person".

If they want to engage with earlier generations and such, that's awesome and I don't knock it.

But do it on the terms of that generation, don't trample your own assumptions over it like you know better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 06, 2019, 08:40:49 AM
It's also like claiming Tales is G2 because they want it to be.

This annoys me so much it should go into the trivial complaints thread :lol:
Like... HOW can G1 toy characters be part of a G2 cartoon but have zero appearance in the actual G2 toyline. Riddle me this. Is it really so hard to accept that G2 didn't have a cartoon show? Only three clicks on the internet could tell them this.
Click 1: Search tab
Click 2: Enter "MyLittleWiki"
Click 3: Select "G2" link

I used to watch FiM on a German site hosting all sorts of MLP media and since it is run by Bronies they call Tales "G2" and the G3 specials are listed as "episodes" of a fictional G3 show.

Because retconners are idiots.

 :iconclap: to both these posts.

The G2 thing I add to my list of "reasons to lose respect in a brony person".

If they want to engage with earlier generations and such, that's awesome and I don't knock it.

But do it on the terms of that generation, don't trample your own assumptions over it like you know better.

Precisely!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 06, 2019, 09:14:13 AM
I corrected someone gently on Tumblr when they tagged their Tales comic as "MLP G2" and they posted something about "angry anon hate when all I'm doing is my own thing" and then deleted their complaint.
It's still tagged as G2.
I can appreciate Bronies/G4 fans looking at the older gens-heck, I'm into older MLP because I was a G4 fan who looked at the earlier gens-but when they just praise G1 endlessly because of the show and then give G3 no credit it just makes my eyes roll. :awake: I think a lot of the issue is they're trying to find a generation with the same marketing/style with regards to the show/toy relationship as they do G4. G3 specials are lovely in my opinion but they don't do much and to disregard the whole generation (who has arguably the best color/character design in the franchise) because of it just stinks.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 06, 2019, 09:17:53 AM
I probably didn't explain my point well - I meant that it's probably similar to how those kind of bronies seem to view the comics as "non-canon" which is an incorrect term, in my opinion, as the comics are a canon of their own.  From what I can gather, they don't see G4 as having separate continuities, just a canon and non-canon one.

So they probably assume that all the other generations have only one canon as well.  This is total guess work, but this is how I assume it went, I could be totally wrong.

On the My Little Pony Tales subject, I think it's mainly just that they don't realize that the generation thing is based on the toys, so they see this cartoon that doesn't go anywhere else, so they assume it's G2.  Of course, if they are ignorant to be corrected, then I get what is being said here.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on November 06, 2019, 09:37:11 AM
I don't think of G1 My Little Pony as having a canon at all.  Backcards and cartoons don't work together.  Even the specials and cartoons seem to have somewhat different realities.   I haven't read much of the comics but, they don't fit in with the other worlds well either.  I never cared much for the idea of "canon" for most characters anyway.  It can really ruin storytelling.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 06, 2019, 12:37:55 PM
I think they know, most of them, about G2 and the Tales thing. I have seen people say, "some people don't think so but I'm talking about the animation so it's G2" and stuff like that. Like it's a discussion option. It's not. It's ignorance.

The canon/non canon thing comes I think as well from an anime culture whereby manga is seen as canon and anime that deviates from the manga is filler...thus deciding what is and isn't 'official storyline'. This is obviously true for other franchises but in a generational term the manga/anime one is probably the most solid in conjunction with the brony fandom, and thus there cannot be competing canons. So canon and non canon, which, as you say, is a bit odd in a multi-canon product.

See, I would argue with the idea G3 had the best colours and characters, BUT that is an opinion and a valid one, as is mine, and both are right, just from different perspectives.

BUT calling Tales anime G2 is simply ignorant and wrong, because the toys that came from it belonged to G1. They were marketed in G1 poses, in G1 styles, and other ponies that are marketed in the traditional G1 way were also represented in the cartoon (Rockin Beats and Glowing Magics). And what shoots the bronies in the foot given their obsession with the comic canon of G1 and Majesty and such is that the Rockin Beats and Glowin Magic Ponies (using the UK names here for a reason) appeared in the comics PRIOR to the MLP Tales animated series (so with 'normal fantasy G1' stuff). And the Rockin' Beats at least appeared in the comic AFTER MLP Tales happened too, in MLP Tales like stories.

...So that's the difference.

You can have opinions about the best generation, best design, best format, etc.

You can't move a whole generation into a different tag because you cba to understand how older generations work.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on November 06, 2019, 01:03:48 PM
I think they know, most of them, about G2 and the Tales thing. I have seen people say, "some people don't think so but I'm talking about the animation so it's G2" and stuff like that. Like it's a discussion option.

This silly "the toys are G1 but the animation is G2" thing was introduced by Bronies who didn't want to admit they were wrong about something as trivial as MLP generations just because the icky girls with their cooties came up with it.

Even Hasbroken remember they made a G2 computer game instead of a show :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 06, 2019, 01:43:00 PM
I think they know, most of them, about G2 and the Tales thing. I have seen people say, "some people don't think so but I'm talking about the animation so it's G2" and stuff like that. Like it's a discussion option.

This silly "the toys are G1 but the animation is G2" thing was introduced by Bronies who didn't want to admit they were wrong about something as trivial as MLP generations just because the icky girls with their cooties came up with it.

Even Hasbroken remember they made a G2 computer game instead of a show :lol:

Then maybe those sorts should stay clear of us icky little girls. We might give em cooties.XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on November 06, 2019, 02:16:56 PM
Aren't pony generations a purely fan-made and non-official concept anyway? Because in that case there would be no problem to define the toyline G2 as the taller ones that existed between G1 and G3, and the cartoon G2 as MLPT since it was between the G1 Megan verse and the G3 straight-to-video specials, and it would be just as good as any other definition.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 06, 2019, 03:42:49 PM
Aren't pony generations a purely fan-made and non-official concept anyway? Because in that case there would be no problem to define the toyline G2 as the taller ones that existed between G1 and G3, and the cartoon G2 as MLPT since it was between the G1 Megan verse and the G3 straight-to-video specials, and it would be just as good as any other definition.

Nope.

My Little Pony up to G4 is defined according to toyline, not according to animation. Whether it is fan defined or not is not the issue. It's anachronistic to force FIM rules on pre-FIM generations that have long since had their own accepted and fixed way of classifying themselves before FIM existed.

As LAW said, retconning sucks.

It demonstrates an ignorance of what came before dressed in the pretend of caring about it. Thus it's worse than completely ignoring it imo.

And there is no such thing as a G1 Megan-verse. I wouldn't define G1 by its animation as it's such a tiny part of the overall franchise. But if you want to define it by the animation, you have to include Tales. You can't just shunt Tales down to G2 because G2 didn't get animation, and pretend like G2 doesn't exist (which is what happens).

G1 animation was made to sell toys, thus toys define G1. And that includes the Tales ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 06, 2019, 03:45:42 PM
Aren't pony generations a purely fan-made and non-official concept anyway? Because in that case there would be no problem to define the toyline G2 as the taller ones that existed between G1 and G3, and the cartoon G2 as MLPT since it was between the G1 Megan verse and the G3 straight-to-video specials, and it would be just as good as any other definition.

I can see what you say, but tbh these things define themselves and it cannot erase fact, no matter how much revisionists try to force it otherwise, it just makes em look arrogantly stupid. Tales is G1. It would be like G6 fans  erroneously calling EQG G5 and telling G4 fans they're wrong and don't know anything whatsoever.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 06, 2019, 03:49:58 PM
Aren't pony generations a purely fan-made and non-official concept anyway? Because in that case there would be no problem to define the toyline G2 as the taller ones that existed between G1 and G3, and the cartoon G2 as MLPT since it was between the G1 Megan verse and the G3 straight-to-video specials, and it would be just as good as any other definition.

I can see what you say, but tbh these things define themselves and it cannot erase fact, no matter how much revisionists try to force it otherwise, it just makes em look arrogantly stupid. MLP&F and Tales is G1. It would be like G6 fans  erroneously calling EQG G5 and telling G4 fans they're wrong and don't know anything whatsoever.

I was trying to find a comparison like that. Well done.

Or Ponyville is G4 because it's not G3.

On a sidenote I did see someone writing in a blog back in 2011 that G4 was actually a continuation of G3. True, back in 2011, but still...they were sure people would stop with the G4 label and go back to calling them G3 before long.

I often wondered what that person thinks now.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 06, 2019, 05:01:14 PM
I never cared much for the idea of "canon" for most characters anyway.  It can really ruin storytelling.
This actually reminds me of a problem I have with the G4 fandom (it's probably mostly bronies, but also not all of them) is that there has to be such an issue about canon towards the show - like you "have" to stick with what the show states as fact, even when it comes to fanon, or something.  Obviously, you don't, but there are some who have to point out that now that a background pony has been given somewhat of a canon, it's not right to stray away from that in fanon material, or something.

There's also the case of complaining about "ruined headcanons" when the show does this, but there is a chance that at least some of the people who say that are joking, but it's hard to tell.  Either way, neither of these things should be an issue - the beauty of fanon is, it can be as close to or as far away from canon as you personally want it to be.

On the subject of this; (to add a possibly unpopular opinion), I don't have a problem with there being an "established fanon" amongst bronies, though I get why it can look stupid to have one (and hope that bronies are aware they don't have to follow it.)  I think it's an exaggeration to say that all bronies have the same headcanon, because some do deviate away from it in places, but I don't mind that certain things being so popular in the fanon, that everyone kind of accepted it (as long as they get it's not canon... if that makes sense.)

I myself follow "Muffin" being clumsy but adorable, and Lyra Heartstrings and Bon Bon being "close" (friends or lovers is fine) for example, because those headcanons work for me, and I have a nostalgic attachment to them - they are not original, and many bronies have gone with the same thing, but I stick with it, because I like these headcanons.  On the other hand, I do not view Dinky Doo as "Muffin"'s daughter at all (but accept that some have this headcanon) - I'd have gone with sister personally.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on November 07, 2019, 09:55:24 AM
It would be like G6 fans  erroneously calling EQG G5 and telling G4 fans they're wrong and don't know anything whatsoever.

I hope this happens :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 07, 2019, 10:19:54 AM
It would be like G6 fans  erroneously calling EQG G5 and telling G4 fans they're wrong and don't know anything whatsoever.

I hope this happens :lol:

Mechoo.  :satisfied:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on November 07, 2019, 06:34:57 PM
I still don't understand why some people insist that categorizing generations by animation only came with G4. When I first got back into ponies in 2006, I soon discovered that the new ponies with short muzzles who giggled a lot were called G3s but I was confused by Tales which reminded me of the ponies from my childhood and yet was so different, so when I picked up all the mentions of "G2" which most people apparently hated for being so different, I figured it referred to MLPT since it indeed was quite different from the earlier show and it seemed like I was one of the few people who actually liked it, so I soon just came to the conclusion that G1 must have meant the first show with Wind Whistler, Fizzy etc., G2 was Tales and G3 was the "new" (at the time) ponies. Of course some time later I also discovered those weird ponies that looked like nothing else and had no cartoon at all, and soon I realized how it actually worked, but to this day I like to think that MLPT is either an animated adaptation of the G1 toyline or the G2 animated canon.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on November 08, 2019, 01:41:35 AM
I still don't understand why some people insist that categorizing generations by animation only came with G4.

Some people are right here :lol: And I don't "insist" on it, I observed it first hand. What a single person like you thought before Bronies came around doesn't matter in this argument. None of you tried to fight these fandom categories as they did and still do.

It was the G4 fans who populized the "Tales is really G2" stuff ignoring what the older fans said. It simply makes things more confusing if you refer to a G1 toyselling vehicle as G2 just because it's a secondary show. "Tales" is a great way to refer to it, that's literally what the show is called.
G1 ran for a couple of years and in Tales a bunch of later G1 ponies were featured, not a single G2. Tales wasn't about Sky Skimmer and Ivy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RoseNoire on November 08, 2019, 05:53:31 AM
My unpopular opinion is that I don't like deflocking ponies. It feels so wrong to me.

I'm from Europe, So-Softs were not released out there, we only have NSS and I really want to have at least one SS in my life, see how they look and feel like. I don't mind if their color is "dulled" by the flocking, it seems to look decent enough, judging from pictures and videos.

If I were to find a SS with some flocking missing here and there, I would try to reflock its bald spots rather than removing everything. If I want a vibrant pony, I'd get a NSS release instead of removing an otherwise nice flocking.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on November 08, 2019, 06:15:46 AM
Yeah, it's not so much that we think "Tales = G2" is a notion created by bronies, so much as they perpetuate(d?) it. There's a difference between a misconception, finding out the actual answer and being like "oh, okay then" and stubbornly insisting Tales HAS to be G2. (Or "G1.5", which really drives me up the wall...)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 08, 2019, 07:31:12 AM
I still don't understand why some people insist that categorizing generations by animation only came with G4.

Some people are right here :lol: And I don't "insist" on it, I observed it first hand. What a single person like you thought before Bronies came around doesn't matter in this argument. None of you tried to fight these fandom categories as they did and still do.

It was the G4 fans who populized the "Tales is really G2" stuff ignoring what the older fans said. It simply makes things more confusing if you refer to a G1 toyselling vehicle as G2 just because it's a secondary show. "Tales" is a great way to refer to it, that's literally what the show is called.
G1 ran for a couple of years and in Tales a bunch of later G1 ponies were featured, not a single G2. Tales wasn't about Sky Skimmer and Ivy.

Agree with Zapper.

I came into this community in 1997-8. At that time the term G2 didn't even exist.

The term G2 didn't exist until G3 happened, at which point the community figured out what they wanted to call it.

Even when it was just G1 and G2 (and they were called old ponies and new ponies), the thing is that nobody defined G1 by the animated series.

But see, I can root this in something more because the most common term for the characters that star in the MLP Tales series is what? Tales ponies, right? That's not technically correct. They're actually Seven Characters. That's how they were marketed. BUT in the US they weren't ever sold, and the US was the bulk of the original community (more so than it is now). So they got referred to as Tales ponies. And when the US (and some Canadian) fans discovered the ponies existed in Europe, they got known as Tales ponies for reference.

But the ponies that were sold at this time are all G1 ponies, some of which had been out for a while already, and had appeared in other, more traditional G1-centric material. So Tales ponies = G1 ponies. Case closed.


G2 was out at the time these discussions about Tales ponies actually existing happened, but nobody associated Tales ponies to anything but G1. Ever.

Sorry to pull history on you - but the fact remains that defining MLP by animation came with G4, and has been perpetuated by G4. One or two people misunderstanding what the G terms mean is not a history of classifying generations by animation.

We all knew that was impossible because G2 didn't have any animation.


The other thing is what the G terms refer to.

MLP was defined by toyline until FIM happened, because, until FIM happened, MLP was a toy and cartoons were made to sell toys. Now FIM is also made to sell the show itself, the merchandise, and a lot of other things that are not the traditional 'toy' we think of with older generations. Maybe we might have subdivided G1 more if we had known there was more coming, but it didn't happen that way. So we didn't do it. It was a way to distinguish three separate toy line releases. The original old ponies, the new ponies, and then the new new ponies. Or G1, G2, and G3 for ease of comprehension.

Even if there had been a mass movement in 2006 to label Tales as G2 (which there wasn't, as I was here, and so were a lot of other people, and we'd have noticed), it would still have been anachronistic in the same way it is to do it now, because of the reason stated above. The terms were already defined by 2006 and in full usage. Nobody was challenging them.

Because G1, G2, and G3 were terms identified by fans for toylines, obviously the fans didn't then have conflicting terms for the animation. Because the animation wasn't that all important to any of the toy lines, it was just one part of a bigger collection of advertising methods used in G1 and G3 but not G2 (except for some animated commercials) to sell toys.

The argument simply doesn't gel.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 08, 2019, 07:35:16 AM
I still don't understand why some people insist that categorizing generations by animation only came with G4. When I first got back into ponies in 2006, I soon discovered that the new ponies with short muzzles who giggled a lot were called G3s but I was confused by Tales which reminded me of the ponies from my childhood and yet was so different, so when I picked up all the mentions of "G2" which most people apparently hated for being so different, I figured it referred to MLPT since it indeed was quite different from the earlier show and it seemed like I was one of the few people who actually liked it, so I soon just came to the conclusion that G1 must have meant the first show with Wind Whistler, Fizzy etc., G2 was Tales and G3 was the "new" (at the time) ponies. Of course some time later I also discovered those weird ponies that looked like nothing else and had no cartoon at all, and soon I realized how it actually worked, but to this day I like to think that MLPT is either an animated adaptation of the G1 toyline or the G2 animated canon.

The difference is, you got confused but eventually sorted it out. You weren't being willfully ignorant or refusing to listen to others.

I thought G3 was the new generation of ponies for the first time since the 80s since I literally never saw the Friendship Garden ponies in stores at all and didn't realize they existed. Then I discovered Dream Valley and found out about those too.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on November 08, 2019, 10:33:13 AM
I thought G3 was the new generation of ponies for the first time since the 80s since I literally never saw the Friendship Garden ponies in stores at all and didn't realize they existed. Then I discovered Dream Valley and found out about those too.

Heck, I thought G2 ponies were an LPS line... lol! Yes, "My Little Pony" was on the cards and they had symbols and were rainbow colors but they were also made by Kenner like LPS at that time and had similar gimmicks.
So I referred to them as "LPS ponies" until I discovered the online fan community (at that time G3 was leaving shelves and so generations had been established and I switched quickly to that so people would know what the heck I was talking about) :lol:
Had I called them "LPS ponies" people would have thought I was talking about a pony from LPS.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on November 08, 2019, 12:29:52 PM
I was there for the first two specials and My Little Pony and Friends.  I'd never heard of Tales.  I did notice the new ponies who were made by Kenner, packaged differently, looked different, lived in Friendship Gardens and none of the old molds were in sight.  In fact, they'd been gone for some time. It was pretty clear that G2 was a reboot even if they never had a cartoon.  It was a turning point in My Little Pony history that's acknowledged by calling it the second generation.  Saying otherwise is attempting to rewrite history.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 08, 2019, 04:46:44 PM
I never saw most of the G1 animation as a kid - I had 4 eps on vhs - till they aired all of G1's animation on one of the cable channels in 1995 and my sister's best friend at the time was taping them. Naynie borrowed the tapes and then I got to see all of them.

They aired them from RaMC through to the end of Tales and then began the cycle again.

1995 predates G2 by 2 years. 3 years in the UK.

Nuff said really.

For me personally, though, it makes even less sense because the Tales ponies were featured in the UK pony comics. From around issue 201 they switched from traditional G1 stories to Tales stories. They didn't launch a new comic to recognise some new storyline or style, they just transitioned. As I mentioned before, the Rockin' Beats appeared prior to this shift and also after this shift and nobody even blinked. The Rockin' Beats were still on sale here alongside the Tales ponies during the early 1990s as well. Half Note is in the same mould as Starlight and Melody.

The thing is, there are many things you can interpret in your own way (like how a pony is, what their personality is, what story you want to follow, what gender they are, how they are related, etc etc). But then there are factual issues that arise when you try to rewrite something to force it into a place it doesn't fit.

I think that, if you know that G2 is a toyline and you know what it is, you're only feeding the trolls if you continue to think/talk about Tales as G2 in animation terms. For me it's just ridiculous because it was made to sell a toyline that came out during G1.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: cloud_weaver on November 08, 2019, 10:43:36 PM
Whoo....I see I missed a long lengthy conversation! Since when did the Tales Cartoon get labeled G2?

As someone who grew up watching both the original show and a tales, I can tell you they were interchangeable on my cable network! And well before G2’s!

I remember hearing the announcement of the G2 release, and a few years after production had stopped on G1’s.  (All pre-“G1 and G2 labels”). I was ecstatic!   But never once lumped the newer style ponies with the original styles.

On an off handed, but on-topic note -
 
*i dislike the CP ponies, for some reason I think they look bloated, and unflattering

*I LOVE tinsel! All day long, give me Ponies with Tinsel in their hair!

*i always found So Softs masculine looking. They were always the grandpa’s in my herds.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 09, 2019, 07:31:41 AM
I like Potion Nova's colors and symbol. Just not that mould. Is it wrong that I kinda want her, JUST because she's a new character?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on November 09, 2019, 07:59:06 AM
Is it wrong that I kinda want her, JUST because she's a new character?

Definitely not! I'm like this with every non-Mane 6 G4. :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 09, 2019, 08:00:42 AM
Is it wrong that I kinda want her, JUST because she's a new character?

Definitely not! I'm like this with every non-Mane 6 G4. :lol:

Yeah but...but that HEAD!!   >_<

Shame retro Pinkie's and Rarity's hair is too dark. They'd make good custom bases for Nova Potion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 09, 2019, 09:25:21 AM
Good thinking on the cross-gen custom. She does look very bald in the package, I'm hoping it's just the hair color blending in.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 09, 2019, 10:47:05 AM
Good thinking on the cross-gen custom. She does look very bald in the package, I'm hoping it's just the hair color blending in.

Yeah.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: CloudyGlow on November 09, 2019, 12:03:23 PM
G4 is G3.5 done correctly. G3.5 created the non-pony ponies, G4 just fixed them to be appealing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunbeamV on November 09, 2019, 12:38:43 PM
I actually like the new designs in their regular size. Potion Nova and the new Trixie with starry-looking eyes actually sparked some of the same wonder and joy I felt for new ponies when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 13, 2019, 02:03:57 PM
I wish some of the really popular and expensive ponies were widely disliked and cheap, so I could grab them with ease.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 13, 2019, 02:11:31 PM
I wish some of the really popular and expensive ponies were widely disliked and cheap, so I could grab them with ease.

I am sure that's a popular opinion ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 13, 2019, 02:12:40 PM
I wish some of the really popular and expensive ponies were widely disliked and cheap, so I could grab them with ease.

I am sure that's a popular opinion ;)

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 13, 2019, 03:00:58 PM
I wish some of the really popular and expensive ponies were widely disliked and cheap, so I could grab them with ease.

I am sure that's a popular opinion ;)

 :biggrin:

<Maybe its time to spread rumours about some of them...

"Rapunzel steals hairclips."

"Mimic's really vain"

"Crumpet is so stuck up."

"Munchy's a cannibal!"

..Nope?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 13, 2019, 03:05:26 PM
I wish some of the really popular and expensive ponies were widely disliked and cheap, so I could grab them with ease.

I am sure that's a popular opinion ;)

 :biggrin:

<Maybe its time to spread rumours about some of them...

"Rapunzel steals hairclips."

"Mimic's really vain"

"Crumpet is so stuck up."

"Munchy's a cannibal!"

..Nope?

 :lol: At Munchy's a cannibal!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 13, 2019, 03:41:48 PM
Breaking news, guys! Rapunzel was made a weird plastic as an experiment that eventually infects your entire herd with pony cancer, plasticizer leakage, and a new pony condition-THE FLUME. Please, quarantine or (even better) get RID of her!
 :P
I'm excited for MLPPL.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 13, 2019, 03:44:26 PM
 
Breaking news, guys! Rapunzel was made a weird plastic as an experiment that eventually infects your entire herd with pony cancer, plasticizer leakage, and a new pony condition-THE FLUME. Please, quarantine or (even better) get RID of her!
 :P
I'm excited for MLPPL.

Noo! Not...the phlume!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mrs. Prospector on November 21, 2019, 08:35:32 PM
-G1 babies are the only baby ponies I like. G3's always looked awkwardly proportioned to me and both the beady eyed and duck-lipped G4's are hideous. G4 fillies are adorable though. And don't get me started on those Newborn Cuties...

-I prefer pastel ponies to neon ones

-I never really liked the later G1 gimmicks, especially the ones with moving parts.

-G3's picture books had better stories than the cartoons.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 23, 2019, 02:52:30 PM
I don't like the colors of Princess Cadance or Garden Wishes. They're boring, somewhat clashy ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on November 24, 2019, 05:18:52 AM
I'm excited for MLPPL.

Same. Because it isn't FiM. At this point I am just so sick and tired of FiM and its ever-repeating storyline of "will Twilight be a good princess of friendship?!?!?!" that I will even take Beast Boy ponies making dumb faces and playing with potions.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 24, 2019, 06:45:37 AM
I'm excited for MLPPL.

Same. Because it isn't FiM. At this point I am just so sick and tired of FiM and its ever-repeating storyline of "will Twilight be a good princess of friendship?!?!?!" that I will even take Beast Boy ponies making dumb faces and playing with potions.
They had to fight for their right to party, but then some do-badder sabotaged them, so they had no sleep till Brooklyn.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on November 30, 2019, 04:12:08 PM
I think Princess Serena is prettier than Princess Tiffany

I think regular Swirly Whirly is prettier than than the German one. The German one is pretty but the regular looks like butter, and the colors are just better to me that way.

I can't stand Trixie
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on November 30, 2019, 04:14:36 PM
I think regular Swirly Whirly is prettier than than the German one.

I gasped.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on November 30, 2019, 04:17:40 PM
I think regular Swirly Whirly is prettier than than the German one.

I gasped.
I'm sorryyy  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 30, 2019, 04:33:06 PM
I think regular Swirly Whirly is prettier than than the German one.

I gasped.
I'm sorryyy  :lol:

Butter Kiss is a much more logical name for her given her colouring. I've always thought Swirly Whirly was a generic name which could have been used for any of them.

Also this will make Zapper hunt me down, probably, but this pony's scent is basically what would happen if you mixed a bag of sweet smelling candy with some used cat litter.

Sundae Best pony scents are mostly horrific. They're the one set where if you find one where the scent has gone, you've basically lucked out.

*runs to secure all entrances and exits*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on November 30, 2019, 05:04:35 PM
I think regular Swirly Whirly is prettier than than the German one.

I gasped.
I'm sorryyy  :lol:

Butter Kiss is a much more logical name for her given her colouring. I've always thought Swirly Whirly was a generic name which could have been used for any of them.

Also this will make Zapper hunt me down, probably, but this pony's scent is basically what would happen if you mixed a bag of sweet smelling candy with some used cat litter.

Sundae Best pony scents are mostly horrific. They're the one set where if you find one where the scent has gone, you've basically lucked out.

*runs to secure all entrances and exits*
I agree, Butter Kiss sounds not only prettier, but accurate as well. I have yet to have one with remaining scent  I think? If they did I bleached them or soaked them in something that it no longer remains. Have you had one new or have you always gotten them used?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 30, 2019, 05:56:28 PM
All mine are second hand - I never saw them from new but they're not my favourite set so I don't know if I would have bought them. I have had a few with very pungent smell though. I remember Butter Kiss's smell vividly because I bought a lot from the US and she perfumed the whole box kindly for me. I eventually sold her to someone who was actually happy she still had her scent...and I was thrilled to no longer have her in my trade box xD.

The worst one is Chocolate Chip/Coco Berry, though. Although she is also the prettiest (at least the HK one is) in the set as far as I am concerned, so she hides her deadly behind her beauty.

*shiver*

I think the only one with a vaguely bearable scent (for me) is Sorbet Surprise/Sherbet
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on November 30, 2019, 07:19:08 PM
All mine are second hand - I never saw them from new but they're not my favourite set so I don't know if I would have bought them. I have had a few with very pungent smell though. I remember Butter Kiss's smell vividly because I bought a lot from the US and she perfumed the whole box kindly for me. I eventually sold her to someone who was actually happy she still had her scent...and I was thrilled to no longer have her in my trade box xD.

The worst one is Chocolate Chip/Coco Berry, though. Although she is also the prettiest (at least the HK one is) in the set as far as I am concerned, so she hides her deadly behind her beauty.

*shiver*

I think the only one with a vaguely bearable scent (for me) is Sorbet Surprise/Sherbet
I have Coco Berry, and I couldn't remember if it was because I soaked her but she smelled something awful. It could be age, since I've heard some people do like it, but I wouldn't know. My Sherbet no longer has her scent either. That's too bad that they age so awful because of it often times and it isn't even worth it! XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 24, 2019, 07:31:55 PM
All mine are second hand - I never saw them from new but they're not my favourite set so I don't know if I would have bought them. I have had a few with very pungent smell though. I remember Butter Kiss's smell vividly because I bought a lot from the US and she perfumed the whole box kindly for me. I eventually sold her to someone who was actually happy she still had her scent...and I was thrilled to no longer have her in my trade box xD.

The worst one is Chocolate Chip/Coco Berry, though. Although she is also the prettiest (at least the HK one is) in the set as far as I am concerned, so she hides her deadly behind her beauty.

*shiver*

I think the only one with a vaguely bearable scent (for me) is Sorbet Surprise/Sherbet

What does Sherbert smell like?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 26, 2019, 12:53:34 PM
All mine are second hand - I never saw them from new but they're not my favourite set so I don't know if I would have bought them. I have had a few with very pungent smell though. I remember Butter Kiss's smell vividly because I bought a lot from the US and she perfumed the whole box kindly for me. I eventually sold her to someone who was actually happy she still had her scent...and I was thrilled to no longer have her in my trade box xD.

The worst one is Chocolate Chip/Coco Berry, though. Although she is also the prettiest (at least the HK one is) in the set as far as I am concerned, so she hides her deadly behind her beauty.

*shiver*

I think the only one with a vaguely bearable scent (for me) is Sorbet Surprise/Sherbet

What does Sherbert smell like?
Coconut. At least, mine does...it's meant to be grape, but...I never smelt a grape that smelt like that..O.o
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 26, 2019, 12:58:06 PM
All mine are second hand - I never saw them from new but they're not my favourite set so I don't know if I would have bought them. I have had a few with very pungent smell though. I remember Butter Kiss's smell vividly because I bought a lot from the US and she perfumed the whole box kindly for me. I eventually sold her to someone who was actually happy she still had her scent...and I was thrilled to no longer have her in my trade box xD.

The worst one is Chocolate Chip/Coco Berry, though. Although she is also the prettiest (at least the HK one is) in the set as far as I am concerned, so she hides her deadly behind her beauty.

*shiver*

I think the only one with a vaguely bearable scent (for me) is Sorbet Surprise/Sherbet

What does Sherbert smell like?
Coconut. At least, mine does...it's meant to be grape, but...I never smelt a grape that smelt like that..O.o

How...how does grape get confused with coconut?  :blink:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on December 26, 2019, 01:11:29 PM
All mine are second hand - I never saw them from new but they're not my favourite set so I don't know if I would have bought them. I have had a few with very pungent smell though. I remember Butter Kiss's smell vividly because I bought a lot from the US and she perfumed the whole box kindly for me. I eventually sold her to someone who was actually happy she still had her scent...and I was thrilled to no longer have her in my trade box xD.

The worst one is Chocolate Chip/Coco Berry, though. Although she is also the prettiest (at least the HK one is) in the set as far as I am concerned, so she hides her deadly behind her beauty.

*shiver*

I think the only one with a vaguely bearable scent (for me) is Sorbet Surprise/Sherbet

What does Sherbert smell like?
Coconut. At least, mine does...it's meant to be grape, but...I never smelt a grape that smelt like that..O.o

How...how does grape get confused with coconut?  :blink:

Ask. Hasbro. ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 27, 2019, 07:39:35 AM
They should lay off the mai tais during production then Taf.  :lol:

I like the G4 Merponies better then the G1 and 3.5 Merponies. I just wish they'd given us proper character distribution. The only thing the mane suxx mers are good for, is customizing.

That being said, I do own pearly mer-Rainbowdash because of her amazingly thick, (if coarse) hair and pearly mer-Fluttershy because I do like her color scheme, she hasn't annoyed me by being constantly packed in and her hair is soft. I also didn't have any of her at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on December 27, 2019, 08:17:55 AM
You have a soft haired Fluttershy LaW? I'm surprised they exist. :P I would have loved to see more merponies, like Salina Blue truly being released.
I cleaned up a 2011 ish Fluttershy with tinsel in her hair and she's absolutely adorable with it. I'm surprised by just how much tinsel can make me love a pony.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 27, 2019, 08:40:35 AM
You have a soft haired Fluttershy LaW? I'm surprised they exist. :P I would have loved to see more merponies, like Salina Blue truly being released.
I cleaned up a 2011 ish Fluttershy with tinsel in her hair and she's absolutely adorable with it. I'm surprised by just how much tinsel can make me love a pony.


That's her name! I always forget her name.

I didn't know Fluttershy was prone to un-soft hair? 

I'd like to see your picture of Tinselly Fluttershy pretty please? I like tinsel.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on January 02, 2020, 10:41:31 AM
Not sure if it's an unpopular opinion, but G4 Star Swirl and G4 Blossomforth are MUCH better than their G3 selves. I have some nostalgia for G3 Star Swirl but Blossomforth was so boring.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 02, 2020, 10:48:49 AM
Not sure if it's an unpopular opinion, but G4 Star Swirl and G4 Blossomforth are MUCH better than their G3 selves. I have some nostalgia for G3 Star Swirl but Blossomforth was so boring.

Blossomforth would probably have stood out more if not for the six hundred other white/pink combo G3 that followed her.

I really love G4 Starswirl and probably agree with you on G4 Blossomforth, tbh. I like G3 Starswirl for nostalgia reasons but G4 Starswirl is one of the prettiest G4 brushables IMO.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 02, 2020, 11:13:19 AM
Despite being a victim of the horrible black market jaw trade, I do like the green/blue unipeg and would love to see her, whoever she is, in a more horsey and jaw-friendly generation.

As an aside I don't understand people's issue whenever a new unipeg/winged unicorn/alicorn whatever, is revealed.  No one complains when its a new toy in another species.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 02, 2020, 01:33:51 PM
As an aside I don't understand people's issue whenever a new unipeg/winged unicorn/alicorn whatever, is revealed.  No one complains when its a new toy in another species.
It's a complaint because it makes alicorns less "special" or whatever. Or, like, "there are only 2/3 alicorns" depending on who you talk to when the Twilicorn thing was strong.
The pony life ponies are surprisingly nice quality, I'm officially all on the pony life train. Choo choo!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 02, 2020, 01:49:21 PM
As an aside I don't understand people's issue whenever a new unipeg/winged unicorn/alicorn whatever, is revealed.  No one complains when its a new toy in another species.
It's a complaint because it makes alicorns less "special" or whatever. Or, like, "there are only 2/3 alicorns" depending on who you talk to when the Twilicorn thing was strong.
The pony life ponies are surprisingly nice quality, I'm officially all on the pony life train. Choo choo!

Still seems petty to me. That's like griping about how the Windy Wings or the lone changeling who isn't queen Crysalis makes Summer Wings and Queen Crysalis un-special. Personally I'd like to see more of the lesser species.

I'm glad your enjoying your PL toys.

*hands tailleaf engineer hat*

Post Merge: January 02, 2020, 02:00:36 PM

Not sure if it's an unpopular opinion, but G4 Star Swirl and G4 Blossomforth are MUCH better than their G3 selves. I have some nostalgia for G3 Star Swirl but Blossomforth was so boring.

I agree partly. Though G1 Star Swirl is the best. Those color swirl girls rock! I like the colors of G4 Blossomforth. They remind me of Baby Dipper and Zippy Zinnia.

Star Swirl's colors are berry themed for lack of a better description. And I like those deeper shades. The G3s have the nicer moulds though. It'd be pretty to see customs that combined the two.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on January 02, 2020, 03:04:27 PM
I like both Blossomforths pretty much equally (maybe G4 Bloss has a little bit of an edge, because of her eyes - she looks like a hippie, I love it), but I definitely like G4 Starswirl better than her G3 namesake. G3 SS is cute too, but a bit generic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on January 03, 2020, 07:24:53 AM
I'm officially all on the pony life train. Choo choo!

I think the PL brushables look really cute from the front. I love how they did Trixie. The lack of jaw is too apparent from the side but I am happy about better hair.
PL >>> FiM big head reboot
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 03, 2020, 07:49:14 AM
I'm officially all on the pony life train. Choo choo!

I think the PL brushables look really cute from the front. I love how they did Trixie. The lack of jaw is too apparent from the side but I am happy about better hair.
PL >>> FiM big head reboot

But G4s always had big heads.

I know everyone goes gaga over Dazzle Glow and Star Glow, and I do too. But I think Bright Glow is absolutely gorgeous and underrated.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on January 03, 2020, 11:21:16 AM
I'm officially all on the pony life train. Choo choo!

I think the PL brushables look really cute from the front. I love how they did Trixie. The lack of jaw is too apparent from the side but I am happy about better hair.
PL >>> FiM big head reboot

But G4s always had big heads.

I know everyone goes gaga over Dazzle Glow and Star Glow, and I do too. But I think Bright Glow is absolutely gorgeous and underrated.
huh yeah she is underrated SEVERELY
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 03, 2020, 02:07:57 PM
I never got the deer association with G4? Deer do have long long muzzles and jaws.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 03, 2020, 02:14:45 PM
I never got the deer association with G4? Deer do have long long muzzles and jaws.
Yeah, I couldn't see that one either. Maybe Celestia's design if any. I think Chihuahuas make for a better comparison.
Not necessarily a pony opinion, but I'd like to see more fanartists draw horsey snouts on their ponies. It wigs me out to see ponies with anime faces on, but unfortunately that's a very popular style...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 03, 2020, 02:17:19 PM
I never got the deer association with G4? Deer do have long long muzzles and jaws.
Yeah, I couldn't see that one either. Maybe Celestia's design if any. I think Chihuahuas make for a better comparison.
Not necessarily a pony opinion, but I'd like to see more fanartists draw horsey snouts on their ponies. It wigs me out to see ponies with anime faces on, but unfortunately that's a very popular style...

Same here.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on January 03, 2020, 07:55:48 PM
I never got the deer association with G4? Deer do have long long muzzles and jaws.
Yeah, I couldn't see that one either. Maybe Celestia's design if any. I think Chihuahuas make for a better comparison.
Not necessarily a pony opinion, but I'd like to see more fanartists draw horsey snouts on their ponies. It wigs me out to see ponies with anime faces on, but unfortunately that's a very popular style...

Same here.

Ponies with "cute anime girl" fangs, human hair, and cat legs... :lookround:


I like Potion Nova's name, and it's fun to say. I like her symbol too but I wish it had more colour going on. It's just one solid pink. :huh: G2s did the same thing but at least those were usually more detailed with the linework to make up for the lack of colour.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: pawpatrolbab on January 03, 2020, 08:46:20 PM
Not sure if this is unpopular or not but I really miss chubby ponies. I hate how skinny the figures are for G4
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on January 03, 2020, 10:03:31 PM
Not sure if this is unpopular or not but I really miss chubby ponies. I hate how skinny the figures are for G4
100% agreed
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on January 04, 2020, 03:13:47 AM
I'm officially all on the pony life train. Choo choo!

I think the PL brushables look really cute from the front. I love how they did Trixie. The lack of jaw is too apparent from the side but I am happy about better hair.
PL >>> FiM big head reboot

But G4s always had big heads.

So? The reboot heads were bigger, rounder and their legs looked skinnier. The reboot look was ugly to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 04, 2020, 06:01:33 AM
I'm officially all on the pony life train. Choo choo!

I think the PL brushables look really cute from the front. I love how they did Trixie. The lack of jaw is too apparent from the side but I am happy about better hair.
PL >>> FiM big head reboot

But G4s always had big heads.

I know everyone goes gaga over Dazzle Glow and Star Glow, and I do too. But I think Bright Glow is absolutely gorgeous and underrated.
huh yeah she is underrated SEVERELY

She was my childhood glowing magic and I agree. She is a very pretty pony. I think the other two grab the attention because they have so many recognised and distinct variations, but Bright Glow has a couple of more subtle ones herself and she has a very sweet colour scheme.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 04, 2020, 06:34:55 AM
Not sure if this is unpopular or not but I really miss chubby ponies. I hate how skinny the figures are for G4

Me too.

Post Merge: January 04, 2020, 06:36:25 AM

I'm officially all on the pony life train. Choo choo!

I think the PL brushables look really cute from the front. I love how they did Trixie. The lack of jaw is too apparent from the side but I am happy about better hair.
PL >>> FiM big head reboot

But G4s always had big heads.

So? The reboot heads were bigger, rounder and their legs looked skinnier. The reboot look was ugly to me.

They keep getting bigger. Have you ever seen that one episode of South Park where the principal talks about how drugs are bad mmkay? And his head keeps inflating the more drugs he does. All of G4 reminds me of that.

Post Merge: January 04, 2020, 06:37:32 AM

I'm officially all on the pony life train. Choo choo!

I think the PL brushables look really cute from the front. I love how they did Trixie. The lack of jaw is too apparent from the side but I am happy about better hair.
PL >>> FiM big head reboot

But G4s always had big heads.

I know everyone goes gaga over Dazzle Glow and Star Glow, and I do too. But I think Bright Glow is absolutely gorgeous and underrated.
huh yeah she is underrated SEVERELY

She was my childhood glowing magic and I agree. She is a very pretty pony. I think the other two grab the attention because they have so many recognised and distinct variations, but Bright Glow has a couple of more subtle ones herself and she has a very sweet colour scheme.

She's got a cute symbol too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on January 04, 2020, 09:56:22 AM
I said what I said and no amount of "G4s always had big heads" can sway my opinion that I prefer PL to the G4 reboot look with spherical heads. I'm not gonna call it G4.5 anymore because PL is G4.5 to me now.

My ranking of G4 brushable molds would be the first G4s >>> Pony Life >>> reboot/movie ponies.

PS: I don't watch South Park as I only watch beautiful cartoons that teach good values like Thundercats :lol: j/k
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 04, 2020, 10:15:44 AM
The round, big, bulbous heads, weird lips and noodle limbs are hideous Zapper, I'm not disputing that.

I think the Playful Puppy Pose is weird. Horses are literally incapable of moving that way Hasbroken.

When it comes to multi-colored newborn twins, I only like one from a few sets: Bunkie, Dibbles and Sandcastle. I'd snag one of Bunkie and Dibbles if it didn't violate my strict Do Not Seperate twins policy.

The only full sets of twins I like are Milkweed and Tumbleweed, Jabber and Jebber and Puddles and Peeks. I don't like em enough to buy them though.

I actually do like Big Top and Toppy, just not those poses. Which brings my opinions on the twins back full circle.


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 04, 2020, 01:52:41 PM
Puddles and Peeks. I don't like em enough to buy them though.
Just throwing out there that these two are so much more gorgeous in person. Didn't expect to like them as much as I do!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 04, 2020, 03:19:31 PM
Puddles and Peeks. I don't like em enough to buy them though.
Just throwing out there that these two are so much more gorgeous in person. Didn't expect to like them as much as I do!

Oh I bet they are. I'm just not as fond of newborn moulds as I am with other baby pony moulds.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on January 04, 2020, 05:50:05 PM
I generally don’t like food symbols because somehow I translate that to the pony getting sticky/crumbs on her.  I don’t know where that came from but it started during childhood.

Apples and other fruit seem to get a pass though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: StayGoldPonyboy on January 06, 2020, 02:26:23 AM
If the plastic bubble is yellow/brown, its time to take the pony out
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 06, 2020, 07:18:54 AM
If the plastic bubble is yellow/brown, its time to take the pony out

Definitely.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 06, 2020, 07:38:35 AM
If the plastic bubble is yellow/brown, its time to take the pony out

For me that's the same as saying when Posey's hair fades, remove it all and leave her bald.

People advocating decarding always make me upset, knowing as I do that some ponies only exist in a few examples MOC now. With age many of those bubbles may discolour. We ought to be doing no harm to the things we have left. If you don't like a discoloured pony package, sell it to someone who does. That's always the best solution.

We have thousands of examples of loose ponies. We don't need to make more.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on January 06, 2020, 08:21:51 AM
If the plastic bubble is yellow/brown, its time to take the pony out

For me that's the same as saying when Posey's hair fades, remove it all and leave her bald.

People advocating decarding always make me upset, knowing as I do that some ponies only exist in a few examples MOC now. With age many of those bubbles may discolour. We ought to be doing no harm to the things we have left. If you don't like a discoloured pony package, sell it to someone who does. That's always the best solution.

We have thousands of examples of loose ponies. We don't need to make more.



Agreed. The only time I think it'd ever be okay is if the card is moldy and has the potential to harm the pony itself as a result, but that's it. Otherwise, MOC G1s should remain MOC (I'd argue this applies to G2 as well and probably also G3).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on January 06, 2020, 08:23:03 AM
IMO if the card/bubble have degraded to the point where it's going to start affecting the pony, it's definitely time to decard. What's the point of keeping them MOC at that point?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on January 06, 2020, 08:38:10 AM
If the plastic bubble is yellow/brown, its time to take the pony out

For me that's the same as saying when Posey's hair fades, remove it all and leave her bald.

People advocating decarding always make me upset, knowing as I do that some ponies only exist in a few examples MOC now. With age many of those bubbles may discolour. We ought to be doing no harm to the things we have left. If you don't like a discoloured pony package, sell it to someone who does. That's always the best solution.

We have thousands of examples of loose ponies. We don't need to make more.
100% agreed. These things have too high a value, are too rare to be taking them out. If its moldy and degrading then that's different obviously. But yellowing seems to minor to do that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on January 06, 2020, 09:17:49 AM
I also collect dolls. Some of their  window box plastic has yellowed but the dolls inside are just fine only the plastic has discolored. I would never remove the doll just because the plastic has yellowed. I feel the same about G1 MOC ponies. They should never be decarded unless the pony is being damaged due to mold etc...
We need to save the few MOC ponies that remain. :D



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on January 06, 2020, 09:39:07 AM
Let people modify or decard their own possessions without making them feel bad.  Shouldn't be an unpopular opinion but it seems to be.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: milkywaymochi on January 06, 2020, 10:58:03 AM
I'm a bit on the fence about decarding, but not for the reason you might think.

I totally get both arguements for and against it, but I could never have a MOC or MIB pony. (and not just because of the price)

see, I have this overload of empathy and so I actually feel sorry for mint in package ponies, because I can't help thinking that they look trapped and miserable, even though I know they're just plastic. So if I got a mint pony, I'd feel so bad for her that I would have to decard her and rescue her...and then I'd get hung, drawn and quartered by the collecting community.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 06, 2020, 11:19:09 AM
I'm a bit on the fence about decarding, but not for the reason you might think.

I totally get both arguements for and against it, but I could never have a MOC or MIB pony. (and not just because of the price)

see, I have this overload of empathy and so I actually feel sorry for mint in package ponies, because I can't help thinking that they look trapped and miserable, even though I know they're just plastic. So if I got a mint pony, I'd feel so bad for her that I would have to decard her and rescue her...and then I'd get hung, drawn and quartered by the collecting community.

I'm uh...I'm glad I'm not the only one to feel this way sometimes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: poniesthatsparkle on January 06, 2020, 11:25:41 AM
While I personally wouldn't decard a pony that easily, I don't mind if others do. They bought it, it's their pony, they can do whatever they want with it.

Yes, it's good to preserve things but people are still free to do what they want with the things they own. Ponies don't belong to the community. They belong to the person who bought them. Let people decard ponies and customize rare ones.  It can be hard to see this happen but it's not your place to tell people what they can and cannot do with their property.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 06, 2020, 01:08:25 PM


see, I have this overload of empathy and so I actually feel sorry for mint in package ponies, because I can't help thinking that they look trapped and miserable, even though I know they're just plastic. So if I got a mint pony, I'd feel so bad for her that I would have to decard her and rescue her...and then I'd get hung, drawn and quartered by the collecting community.

This explanation always amazes me, because ponies are toys and made of plastic. However much you want to feel sorry for them, they still cannot respond to that feeling.

And yet decarding a pony can potentially remove the last example of something from the collecting community forever. We are at that stage with several ponies from the UK, some of which are not known to exist.

And it may be that someone's grail is that MOC you just opened. I don't understand why it's more ok to destroy a human being's hopes of obtaining a grail because you feel bad for the lump of plastic. Isn't that the wrong way around? Surely the person matters more?

On the other note, to do what you want to your pony - it's a redundant argument nowadays when MOC ponies are much more hard to find, expensive and at a premium. Unless you fluke find one at a second hand sale for a pittance, chances are that to get a MOC pony you have to buy her from auction or another collector online.

That means you have to actively move in the buying and selling arena to obtain one, and in doing so, you are competing against MOC collectors who would keep the item pristine. And if you bought from here, for example, you would probably be buying from a MOC collector who may have preserved and protected that item for years but might have to part for it for need of money.

I think we have a right to call out people who are actively moving against other collectors in that manner. It's no longer about private property when to obtain that property you're deliberately blocking someone else from obtaining their goal. If the person's goal is not a MOC item, why buy one?

I mean, I don't collect Piggy ponies. If I were to buy one and then cut all its hair off, I suspect I'd get a lot of backlash from the people who collect them, especially if it was a super rare example. Of course I would. And decarding is exactly the same as this, it just affects a different type of collector.

On another note, having been here this long, and remembering the time in which there were many many more cheaper MOC items and decarders, I have seen ad nauseum the excuse "I will never sell it". This is fairly untrue, I've seen a lot of decarders resell their collections at later points. So in the end it's often not just about "your property". THe price and rarity of MOC has gone up steadily thanks to these serial decarders, too. That means that MOC collectors not only find it harder to obtain items, but also have to spend more. Those two things give MOC collectors the right to comment. The actions of decarders impact them, so why should they not be allowed to say so?

I remember a discussion once where someone selling MOC refused to sell to a decarder. In that discussion the seller was told they didn't have a choice to not sell to the decarder because an owner can do what they like with their pony. That completely ignored the fact that, until a sale was agreed, the MOC item was the property of the seller, and they absolutely had the right to choose who to sell to or otherwise. Unfortunately the "I can do what I like" argument is only ever used to validate destructive behaviour of some kind. It doesn't seem to count for people who want to preserve their items.

I would personally rather empathise with fellow collectors and do no harm to the pony items that go through my hands than worry about empathising with lumps of plastic hidden in packaging.

But if you want to look at it from that point of view, a lot of the MOC ponies are common loose and will pass through several hands unwanted in their loose form. Yet a MOC pony will always have a place where s/he is valued and prized by someone, because of the pristine state. If you want to empathise with a toy, maybe feel sorrier for all the loose ponies out there unwanted in lots of bait than the ones people actually want to display and love in their collections for being special. The ones that end up in garbage or in landfill because they are unwanted. Why create another one of those when there exists a loose version already that you could give a home to?

In other words, selective empathy makes even less sense than empathy for toys over people.

And that is where I am done on this topic, as the mods will come in and will probably close down this thread if it continues on this subject...

So back onto the unpopular opinion topic in general...

I don't mind that there were no adult unicorn boy ponies or pegasus boy ponies in G1.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on January 06, 2020, 01:26:05 PM
Quote from: Taffeta
I don't mind that there were no adult unicorn boy ponies or pegasus boy ponies in G1.
Neither do I. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 06, 2020, 03:28:00 PM
It is wrong to try and pressure a seller to sell to someone they don't want to.

However if a toy comes into your possession, it is yours to decardor keep on the card if one wishes too. After all, cardboard doesn't last forever either.

I've no prob opening up g3 ponies tbh. If i were to find an moc g1 or 2 in the wild for cheap though, I'd see if someone would be willing to trade it loose.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on January 06, 2020, 05:34:29 PM
I'm not for decarding since yeah, it is destroying something (something important at that too, and like Taf said, maybe a one of a kind item. It's not replaceable, and it's a part of pony history that is then lost).

It's true you can do what you want with your stuff, but it doesn't make sense to me. At this point MOCS are so expensive and a lot of the time hard to get your hands on, compared to the loose equivalent, of which there are definitely more of and for a much much cheaper price. Assuming the end goal is to get the pony loose (I know some people open up MOCS because it feels like they are a kid again) wouldn't it be all around easier to just buy the pony loose? I don't get it.

And if you have a MOC and want to open it for the pony, you could sell it first, and then use the money you got from selling a sought after item to buy the pony loose. That way everyone is happy it seems, and nothing is destroyed and no value is lost.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on January 06, 2020, 06:52:59 PM
I think the Soda Sippin ponies are pretty.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 06, 2020, 07:10:45 PM
I think the Soda Sippin ponies are pretty.

Ponyfan

They are extremely pretty.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: milkywaymochi on January 07, 2020, 02:10:15 AM
Agreed, the soda sippin ponies are very pretty, especially when they still have their factory curls ❤️

I also think the drink n wet ponies are pretty- okay, yes, the pee thing is a bit odd, but they have cute names and lovely colours. (especially Rainfeather)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 07, 2020, 06:56:29 AM
Agreed, the soda sippin ponies are very pretty, especially when they still have their factory curls ❤️

I also think the drink n wet ponies are pretty- okay, yes, the pee thing is a bit odd, but they have cute names and lovely colours. (especially Rainfeather)

I love the DnWs
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 07, 2020, 06:54:59 PM
Agreed, the soda sippin ponies are very pretty, especially when they still have their factory curls ❤️

I also think the drink n wet ponies are pretty- okay, yes, the pee thing is a bit odd, but they have cute names and lovely colours. (especially Rainfeather)

I love the DnWs

I remember being fond of Flicker and Wellyboot in the comic stories. But in the comics they splashed in puddles, they didn't drink and wet.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 08, 2020, 06:31:13 AM
Agreed, the soda sippin ponies are very pretty, especially when they still have their factory curls ❤️

I also think the drink n wet ponies are pretty- okay, yes, the pee thing is a bit odd, but they have cute names and lovely colours. (especially Rainfeather)

I love the DnWs

I remember being fond of Flicker and Wellyboot in the comic stories. But in the comics they splashed in puddles, they didn't drink and wet.

The DnWs are the Soda Sippins after they drank one too many at the last concert. :silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on January 08, 2020, 07:00:35 AM
Agreed, the soda sippin ponies are very pretty, especially when they still have their factory curls ❤️

I also think the drink n wet ponies are pretty- okay, yes, the pee thing is a bit odd, but they have cute names and lovely colours. (especially Rainfeather)

I love the DnWs

I remember being fond of Flicker and Wellyboot in the comic stories. But in the comics they splashed in puddles, they didn't drink and wet.

The DnWs are the Soda Sippins after they drank one too many at the last concert. :silly:

Now I want someone to take bait Soda Sippers and make them adult versions of the DnWs...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Erin-T-Aardvark on January 08, 2020, 08:48:54 AM
My unpopular pony opinions:

I don't like G4, and my opinion of them has soured grately, because of the immature Bronies in the Pony community. But I never really liked G4 to begin with, even before the "Crazies" (as I call the immature Bronies) latched onto it. I don't like the design, I don't like the voice acting, and I don't like the animation. I find the toys to be lacking in imagination (meaning there really isn't any variety in the poses like the 1980's ponies).

I actually like Megan. I could do without Danny and Molly, though, but I really did like Megan (I just wished they released her in her "Midnight Castle" or "Escape from Catrina" outfit).

I don't see the appeal in Rapunzel. I don't think the pink tinsel goes with the blond hair. I love tinsel haired ponies (like the Princess Ponies and the Sparkle Ponies), but I just don't think it works.

I like the "MLP Tales" series. Not as much as "MLP 'n Friends," but I enjoyed "Tales" a bit.

I love the Soda Sippin' ponies. Especially their curls. I wish I had found my SS gals with their sodas (or at least the strawberry one).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on January 08, 2020, 09:28:10 AM
I don't like the design, I don't like the voice acting, and I don't like the animation.

Ooh, please elaborate on the voice acting. I find a lot of the M6 voices start to get on my nerves the more episodes I watch. I can do one or two at a time but I could never binge because of this. Pinkie is the worst for me because she screeches so many of her lines.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Erin-T-Aardvark on January 08, 2020, 08:54:49 PM
This is basically a personal opinion, but I have never liked Tara Strong. That's all there is to it. I can't really elaborate on why, but pretty much all of her characters get on my nerves.

At first, I thought Pinkie Pie's voice was on the annoying side, but my sister is a FiM fan (but she's NOT a crazy Brony, thank goodness), so I've had to listen to her watch the show at various points in time, and I've gotten used to her voice. Other than that, I can't really elaborate any more than that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 08, 2020, 09:59:01 PM
I don't like the design, I don't like the voice acting, and I don't like the animation.

Ooh, please elaborate on the voice acting. I find a lot of the M6 voices start to get on my nerves the more episodes I watch. I can do one or two at a time but I could never binge because of this. Pinkie is the worst for me because she screeches so many of her lines.

Pinkie needs to put a cork in it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on January 08, 2020, 10:09:55 PM
I don't like the design, I don't like the voice acting, and I don't like the animation.

Ooh, please elaborate on the voice acting. I find a lot of the M6 voices start to get on my nerves the more episodes I watch. I can do one or two at a time but I could never binge because of this. Pinkie is the worst for me because she screeches so many of her lines.

Pinkie needs to put a cork in it.

For me, Applejack is the most annoying one.  Fake country puts real country on edge around here.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on January 08, 2020, 10:21:55 PM
This is basically a personal opinion, but I have never liked Tara Strong. That's all there is to it. I can't really elaborate on why, but pretty much all of her characters get on my nerves.

At first, I thought Pinkie Pie's voice was on the annoying side, but my sister is a FiM fan (but she's NOT a crazy Brony, thank goodness), so I've had to listen to her watch the show at various points in time, and I've gotten used to her voice. Other than that, I can't really elaborate any more than that.

Pinkie's voice is the most annoying for me, but as the years have gone by, the worse Twilight's voice has become. I don't know what happened. I guess people's view on Tara Strong got to me? I always see online how people think she's a bit full of herself, or that she's overrated, or something, I don't know, I don't follow her anywhere or keep up with it. But recently I've noticed how sort of annoying her voice is... maybe to me it sounds kind of whiny and bratty.

I sat down and watched the Care Bears Nutcracker special for the first time during Christmas, and the main girl character, whatever her name was, I didn't think much of her voice at first, but halfway through the movie I noticed a peculiar nasally-ness to it. Could it be...? And it was! She was voiced by Tara Strong, all those years ago! She hasn't changed a bit, for better or for worse!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on January 09, 2020, 04:40:07 AM
I've never heard people say that Tara was full of herself, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong places - I've heard some people act like she's overrated occasionally (but that's to be expected when you're in everything), so yeah... maybe I'm just always in positive places whenever she's mentioned.

Her voice... yeah, I've seen comments on that (that's probably the most negative I've seen people.)  It's kind of weird, as she does have more range, but she seems to be going through a phase (or in and out of a phase) where she uses the same voices, essentially the "Twilight Voice" or the "Timmy Voice".

I think voice actors/actresses go threw phases where all their voices are the same, even though they have been shown to be capable of doing very different voices before - Cree Summer for example went threw this phase; all her voices seemed to be Numbuh Five's voice, but when I looked at things she did earlier, she sounded nothing like that.  I don't know if she got over the phase, because I have no idea what her most recent role was, but yeah... they go threw this phase.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on January 09, 2020, 06:07:15 AM
This is basically a personal opinion, but I have never liked Tara Strong. That's all there is to it. I can't really elaborate on why, but pretty much all of her characters get on my nerves.

At first, I thought Pinkie Pie's voice was on the annoying side, but my sister is a FiM fan (but she's NOT a crazy Brony, thank goodness), so I've had to listen to her watch the show at various points in time, and I've gotten used to her voice. Other than that, I can't really elaborate any more than that.

Pinkie's voice is the most annoying for me, but as the years have gone by, the worse Twilight's voice has become. I don't know what happened. I guess people's view on Tara Strong got to me? I always see online how people think she's a bit full of herself, or that she's overrated, or something, I don't know, I don't follow her anywhere or keep up with it. But recently I've noticed how sort of annoying her voice is... maybe to me it sounds kind of whiny and bratty.

I sat down and watched the Care Bears Nutcracker special for the first time during Christmas, and the main girl character, whatever her name was, I didn't think much of her voice at first, but halfway through the movie I noticed a peculiar nasally-ness to it. Could it be...? And it was! She was voiced by Tara Strong, all those years ago! She hasn't changed a bit, for better or for worse!

I don't know much about Tara Strong other than she embraced that "Queen of the Bronies" label :lol:
So I judge her based on her voices alone and "nasal quality" is exactly what I don't quite like and she definitely moved Twilight into that direction. Now Twilight is a nerd so it fits rather well but it's still something I can't listen to for more than an hour, tops.

A lot of voice actors use similar voices for certain character archetypes, it's fine. It's perfectly human, there simply is no way to sound different each time when you have 100+ characters to voice.
What annoys me a bit about Tara Strong is that she is everywhere and often doing the entire female cast of a show. Not bashing her hussle, that is totally on the people who hire her for all of these roles. It's something that isn't done in Germany. You often have one voice for one character. The German M6 don't play double roles and that's why I find it easier to listen to them. If you took away the country slang from AJ she'd sound just like RD but in a lower octave because it's the same voice actress and that's just not my cup of tea. The voice actors are also not getting paid more for doing more roles, afaik.
So whenever I hear double and triple roles I am reminded someone didn't want to hire more people.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on January 09, 2020, 07:23:37 AM
Never knew she did entire casts, but yeah, I can see why that's a bad thing.

Don't get wrong, I would totally include her in my cast if such an opportunity presented itself (like for when I get real shows on TV), but I wouldn't have her do everything, that's not fair on anyone.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on January 09, 2020, 03:31:01 PM
Tara Strong can do different voices. There are some things that she was in before FIM where if I hadn't noticed her name in the credits I would have never realized she was the same person that  now voices Twilight. I think her Twilight voice is usually okay. I don't like her Unikitty voice.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lonewolf on January 09, 2020, 05:59:01 PM
I've never heard people say that Tara was full of herself, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong places - I've heard some people act like she's overrated occasionally (but that's to be expected when you're in everything), so yeah... maybe I'm just always in positive places whenever she's mentioned.

Maybe once and awhile she'll be like that (I'm not really a fan of her myself). One example being when she found out the original PPG voices wouldn't be reused for the reboot (remember seeing her and Buttercup's VA holding "will work" signs up on Twitter). She has done a lot of good for the fandom like standing up to Howard Stern over his comments about bronies, and most importantly the Kiki Havivy fundraiser (which showed the fundraising capabilities of the fandom) https://www.facebook.com/KikiHavivyMemorial
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on January 10, 2020, 03:51:02 AM
I've never heard people say that Tara was full of herself, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong places - I've heard some people act like she's overrated occasionally (but that's to be expected when you're in everything), so yeah... maybe I'm just always in positive places whenever she's mentioned.

She has done a lot of good for the fandom like standing up to Howard Stern over his comments about bronies, and most importantly the Kiki Havivy fundraiser (which showed the fundraising capabilities of the fandom) https://www.facebook.com/KikiHavivyMemorial

So this girl's death is good for "showing Brony fundrasising capabilities". Noted.
That Facebook page even says "thanks to the Bronies and Tara she could prolong her life", no word on doctors and her mother is only mentioned as setting up a fundraiser together with Tara.
Yeah, some people would call that "being full of yourself" :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on January 10, 2020, 05:23:23 AM
I mean no disrespect to Kiki, but I don't think the point of the above post was that.  I think the point was that she and the fandom did the funding, not that a girl dying shows that the fandom does funding, if that makes sense (I am typing this in a rush, so I really hope I'm not sounding disrespectful to Kiki.)   admins want it to.

I don't know why people would call that being full of yourself, unless Tara herself set up that FaceBook page - I can only read some of it, because I don't have a FaceBook account, but it looks like someone else set it up.  If I did a page about the Arena, and made at least 90% of it all about you, then that wouldn't make you full of yourself, as you had no control over the article.

Again... I really hope I'm not being disrespectful - I'm usually unsure to join in on conflicts that involve someone who has died, due to this reason - I may delete this.  Sorry if it is disrespectful.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lonewolf on January 10, 2020, 02:27:23 PM

So this girl's death is good for "showing Brony fundrasising capabilities". Noted.
That Facebook page even says "thanks to the Bronies and Tara she could prolong her life", no word on doctors and her mother is only mentioned as setting up a fundraiser together with Tara.
Yeah, some people would call that "being full of yourself" :P

So setting up a fundraiser is being full of yourself. Noted.



I don't know why people would call that being full of yourself, unless Tara herself set up that FaceBook page - I can only read some of it, because I don't have a FaceBook account, but it looks like someone else set it up.  If I did a page about the Arena, and made at least 90% of it all about you, then that wouldn't make you full of yourself, as you had no control over the article.


The Facebook page is just a memorial that someone (not Tara) set up for her. Not sure who.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Erin-T-Aardvark on January 10, 2020, 06:25:17 PM
I sat down and watched the Care Bears Nutcracker special for the first time during Christmas, and the main girl character, whatever her name was, I didn't think much of her voice at first, but halfway through the movie I noticed a peculiar nasally-ness to it. Could it be...? And it was! She was voiced by Tara Strong, all those years ago! She hasn't changed a bit, for better or for worse!

OK, I'll admit, this is like the only thing she did that I liked.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on January 10, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
Unpopular opinion: if it does not seem to be (semi) permanent damage, don't refer to it as a stain.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on January 11, 2020, 09:27:50 PM
Unpopular opinion: if it does not seem to be (semi) permanent damage, don't refer to it as a stain.
When I first read this I disagreed strongly but the more I thought about I realized this is true, especially since by Google's definition it means "mark that is not easily removed"
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on January 13, 2020, 08:53:33 PM
Unpopular opinion: if it does not seem to be (semi) permanent damage, don't refer to it as a stain.
When I first read this I disagreed strongly but the more I thought about I realized this is true, especially since by Google's definition it means "mark that is not easily removed"
:lol: Now if only more people would realize that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: StayGoldPonyboy on January 14, 2020, 12:43:14 AM
unpopular opinion: i LOVE the whizzer pose, its one of my favorites. and for g3 i like the crystal lace pose a lot. theyre fairly similar imo so that’s probably why hah. everyone seems to hate them though 😔
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: milkywaymochi on January 14, 2020, 03:36:22 AM
I think the whizzer pose is a cute pose, but I find it slightly confusing. Like, what are they supposed to be doing? Are they about to take off in flight? Are they tip toeing? Except that ponies are basically running around on their toes all the time anyway, lol (hence why I find the sweetstep ponies odd- how can a pony of all animals practice ballet?)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 14, 2020, 06:15:18 AM
unpopular opinion: i LOVE the whizzer pose, its one of my favorites. and for g3 i like the crystal lace pose a lot. theyre fairly similar imo so that’s probably why hah. everyone seems to hate them though 😔

I like the Whizzer pose too. Its not an unpopular pose however.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: StayGoldPonyboy on January 14, 2020, 02:17:58 PM
unpopular opinion: i LOVE the whizzer pose, its one of my favorites. and for g3 i like the crystal lace pose a lot. theyre fairly similar imo so that’s probably why hah. everyone seems to hate them though 😔

I like the Whizzer pose too. Its not an unpopular pose however.

that surprises me, i’ve only ever seen hate/general dislike for it :0
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 14, 2020, 02:23:45 PM
that surprises me, i’ve only ever seen hate/general dislike for it :0
I'm an avid fan of it as well, I've only ever seen extreme opinions, not so much general thoughts or an "eh".
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 14, 2020, 03:27:37 PM
unpopular opinion: i LOVE the whizzer pose, its one of my favorites. and for g3 i like the crystal lace pose a lot. theyre fairly similar imo so that’s probably why hah. everyone seems to hate them though 😔

I like the Whizzer pose too. Its not an unpopular pose however.

that surprises me, i’ve only ever seen hate/general dislike for it :0

First I've heard of it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shadowperla on January 15, 2020, 02:00:22 PM

I like the Whizzer pose too. Its not an unpopular pose however.

that surprises me, i’ve only ever seen hate/general dislike for it :0

First I've heard of it.
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Same 0_o That pose is so cute!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 15, 2020, 06:13:42 PM
that surprises me, i’ve only ever seen hate/general dislike for it :0
I'm an avid fan of it as well, I've only ever seen extreme opinions, not so much general thoughts or an "eh".

I think it frustrates people because they fall over forwards if the toes aren't right, but I like it too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on January 16, 2020, 07:10:43 AM
Have mentioned that I have nothing against Daring Do being a real pony?  Because I don't.

I get how there are other ways they could have done it, but I'm fine with it how it is - I view it is a like a Clark Kent/Superman kind of thing, and it often leads to fun adventurous episodes which I enjoy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on January 17, 2020, 07:46:14 PM
that surprises me, i’ve only ever seen hate/general dislike for it :0
I'm an avid fan of it as well, I've only ever seen extreme opinions, not so much general thoughts or an "eh".

I think it frustrates people because they fall over forwards if the toes aren't right, but I like it too.
To me, the biggest problem with it is that it makes the pony appear much taller when placed next to another pony.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 06, 2020, 08:56:37 AM
I have mocked g4 for having so few dynamic poses. This is actually incorrect and hypocritical.

All generations consist of ponies in stationary poses.

And while it's true that they have different head and body moulds and may be lifting a leg or turning their head, or shifting their stance, the stationary poses FAR outnumber the moving poses.

Not just in the ratio of standers to movers, BUT in the sheer number made. You have more ponies made on the Crumpet and Wysteria poses, then you do on the Sugarberry and Whistle Wishes poses.

The G3 Pegasus are the rare and probably only exception to this thus far, where the flyers outnumber the standers.

I'm not knowledgeable enough about G2 to include them, so hopefully G2 fans will chime in.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: UnicornTamer on February 08, 2020, 09:40:47 AM
I really like G2s! Dainty Dove was my first pony ever and I think G2s are just so elegant and beautiful (granted, the magic motion ones with the mechanism in the neck do look a little weird . . . giraffe ponies :p).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on February 08, 2020, 09:56:19 PM
I really like G2s! Dainty Dove was my first pony ever and I think G2s are just so elegant and beautiful (granted, the magic motion ones with the mechanism in the neck do look a little weird . . . giraffe ponies :p).

AAA I love G2s as well! And I also agree about that weird magic motion neck, somewhat of an eyesore.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on February 09, 2020, 05:28:53 AM
White ponies with blue manes look boring. Including Majesty.
I only have two exceptions, Dangles and Denim Blue. The rest can croak :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 09, 2020, 06:42:10 AM
White ponies with blue manes look boring. Including Majesty.
I only have two exceptions, Dangles and Denim Blue. The rest can croak :lol:

Denim Blue has such pretty hair
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: 13blackcats on February 09, 2020, 07:53:57 PM
I adore Beddy Bye Eye babies. I have the complete set already, but every time I see one, I want it. I naturally have a few duplicates, and its reasonable self control that has thus far kept it to only a few duplicates! I just really love them. I think they are sweet and cannot understand why they creep so many people out.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on February 09, 2020, 10:08:28 PM
I think all those exotic Argentinian/Greek/Venezuelan/Zimbabwean etc. variants are really overrated. I mean, if it's just the same pony in a whole new pose then it can actually be interesting (for example I have to admit that Wind Whistler in the Surprise pose works really well), but what's the point of completely altering a pony's colors and sometimes even race? That's like pretty much a completely different character at this point. Let's just imagine a little girl somewhere in South America really likes North Star in the cartoon and asks her mom to buy her a North Star toy, buy instead she gets some weird yellow earth pony. What is even the point? Wouldn't Hasbro want to keep their copyrighted characters consistent across different markets? I could never understand this.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 10, 2020, 09:20:12 AM
I think all those exotic Argentinian/Greek/Venezuelan/Zimbabwean etc. variants are really overrated. I mean, if it's just the same pony in a whole new pose then it can actually be interesting (for example I have to admit that Wind Whistler in the Surprise pose works really well), but what's the point of completely altering a pony's colors and sometimes even race? That's like pretty much a completely different character at this point. Let's just imagine a little girl somewhere in South America really likes North Star in the cartoon and asks her mom to buy her a North Star toy, buy instead she gets some weird yellow earth pony. What is even the point? Wouldn't Hasbro want to keep their copyrighted characters consistent across different markets? I could never understand this.

I wonder how widely the TV show was aired in those places, and also whether it happened at the time the toys were available, I don't think that's a connection since the TV show isn't as important everywhere.

Also here it wasn't uncommon for the species thing to happen. Like Songster and Player were drawn in the comic with wings because of the  US prototype but were ultimately earth ponies :/

But I sort of agree and disagree. I started off with variants a long time back before the word nirvana was used and I still don't really like it as a term, but I'm not mad crazy about all the gazillions of variants that are now out there. I mean, they're great, but they're not really for me now. I like a few but I prefer to be selective with them and not go nuts about trying to get whole sets.

Though I love the Brazilian versions of pretty much any of them, pose difference or species difference or whatever.

So maybe I'm a hypocrite, who knows.

Can't understand the hype on the Takara ponies though. I saw one on a Japanese sale site for 250,000 yen this morning. This is what Western obsession has done to the price market, as they used to be much cheaper there - but it's all because people in the West are nuts enough to spend four figures on them and the Japanese have learned as much. Even as someone who speaks Japanese, loves Japan and Japanese culture/history/etc, I think they're ugly little moomins and hugely overrated and overpriced.

I just wish I'd hoarded them back before everyone got clued up about them, because it'd have paid my university fees last year :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Perikoala on February 10, 2020, 01:18:22 PM
Can't understand the hype on the Takara ponies though. I saw one on a Japanese sale site for 250,000 yen this morning. This is what Western obsession has done to the price market, as they used to be much cheaper there - but it's all because people in the West are nuts enough to spend four figures on them and the Japanese have learned as much. Even as someone who speaks Japanese, loves Japan and Japanese culture/history/etc, I think they're ugly little moomins and hugely overrated and overpriced.

Pretty much what happened with other "nirvana" ponies. I can only speak in the case of Spain. Most collectors here cannot afford the current prices Spanish ponies are sold, unless they are literally destroyed. It's cheaper buying ponies from abroad. And about piggies, I still don't understand how a doll that is for son long considered fake and ugly & had no value, people fight today and raise prices ridiculously and all because one day they discovered that it had the rainbow logo. Lipstick on a pig...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 10, 2020, 02:17:13 PM
I'm sure there's some interesting psychology project in there somewhere...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on February 10, 2020, 02:22:22 PM
I've been in the hobby since the 80s and I still haven't really familiarized myself with nirvanas.  It would be fun to find one in the wild.

I do like the idea of all the other countries having different takes on a pony.  Even though I loved the two initial specials, I wasn't after the featured ponies.  My favorites were the ponies I could give personalities to, so I can appreciate the ponies not matching the shows.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 10, 2020, 05:45:46 PM
Can't understand the hype on the Takara ponies though. I saw one on a Japanese sale site for 250,000 yen this morning. This is what Western obsession has done to the price market, as they used to be much cheaper there - but it's all because people in the West are nuts enough to spend four figures on them and the Japanese have learned as much. Even as someone who speaks Japanese, loves Japan and Japanese culture/history/etc, I think they're ugly little moomins and hugely overrated and overpriced.

Pretty much what happened with other "nirvana" ponies. I can only speak in the case of Spain. Most collectors here cannot afford the current prices Spanish ponies are sold, unless they are literally destroyed. It's cheaper buying ponies from abroad. And about piggies, I still don't understand how a doll that is for son long considered fake and ugly & had no value, people fight today and raise prices ridiculously and all because one day they discovered that it had the rainbow logo. Lipstick on a pig...

It happened with some of the regular releases here as well. Mountain Boys for example are just as expensive for people IN the UK as outside :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Queen Sophie on February 11, 2020, 07:35:46 PM
I’m personally fine with g3.5

I’m not a fan of the bronies from not the best experience I hear them talk about, they take a kids show too seriously (they are just cartoon horses oh my!), however I’ve definitely seen good bronies so of course not all of them are bad!

I feel like g5 when it comes should at least be given a chance. I wasn’t into g4 at first because I thought “Oh it won’t be as good as the ponies I grew up with!” (Which is g3) but now I like the show!

This one isn’t personally my opinion but I remember someone saying that Mimic isn’t rare, she’s just a cash cow.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on February 11, 2020, 09:48:33 PM
Ok, REALLY unpopular opinion incoming:

I'm sick of bat ponies. They were okay at first but now they seem to be a major species among fans and I get sick of seeing them everywhere. There are probably more bat pony OCs than earth pony ones. I hope they don't return. The concept comes off as edgy when you take "Flutterbat's" appeal and popularity into consideration and I also associate bat ponies with the less appropriate side of the fandom with how many arts I've seen of bat ponies, specifically, in stockings. :rolleyes: I guess that goes for any pony but whenever I see bat ponies it's usually either edgy or something inappropriate.

I'm all for adding new species of ponies (hippogriffs and kirins are welcome additions!) but "ponies with bat wings" is on the lazier side of things. Bat ponies are at their best when the designs draw inspiration from fruit, but if they're just an excuse to be edgy, yawn.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 12, 2020, 07:11:32 AM
I think the upcoming MLP/TF crossover is dumb and annoying.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 12, 2020, 09:28:48 AM

I’m not a fan of the bronies from not the best experience I hear them talk about, they take a kids show too seriously (they are just cartoon horses oh my!), however I’ve definitely seen good bronies so of course not all of them are bad!


I think this one is a popular opinion! Some of the good bronies are here at the Arena! (And G4 fans who don't call themselves bronies). The crazy ones...yeah, they're not popular :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on February 12, 2020, 09:59:30 AM
Ok, REALLY unpopular opinion incoming:

I'm sick of bat ponies. They were okay at first but now they seem to be a major species among fans and I get sick of seeing them everywhere. There are probably more bat pony OCs than earth pony ones. I hope they don't return. The concept comes off as edgy when you take "Flutterbat's" appeal and popularity into consideration and I also associate bat ponies with the less appropriate side of the fandom with how many arts I've seen of bat ponies, specifically, in stockings. :rolleyes: I guess that goes for any pony but whenever I see bat ponies it's usually either edgy or something inappropriate.

I'm all for adding new species of ponies (hippogriffs and kirins are welcome additions!) but "ponies with bat wings" is on the lazier side of things. Bat ponies are at their best when the designs draw inspiration from fruit, but if they're just an excuse to be edgy, yawn.
THIS its so annoying especially when its inappropriate. I've seen art of Luna with batwings that I've appreciated but besides her its a big nope from me.
Maybe I should try drawing it myself though to see what all the hype is about 🤔
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on February 12, 2020, 10:18:18 AM
THIS its so annoying especially when its inappropriate. I've seen art of Luna with batwings that I've appreciated but besides her its a big nope from me.
Maybe I should try drawing it myself though to see what all the hype is about

Be sure to make them cute! :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 12, 2020, 10:58:04 AM
Or maybe as different bat species?

And of course...dananananana Baaat Maaan!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 16, 2020, 07:27:43 AM
I like Toola Roola with blue/purple/white hair more then the one with orange/pink/blue/purple.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on February 16, 2020, 08:02:26 AM
THIS its so annoying especially when its inappropriate. I've seen art of Luna with batwings that I've appreciated but besides her its a big nope from me.
Maybe I should try drawing it myself though to see what all the hype is about

Be sure to make them cute! :lol:
That's the plan!  :biggrin:

On the Toola Roola discussion, she had better poses in that release so I think that one just looks better to me, besides her henna release 🤔 either way she's a very unique pony honestly
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 16, 2020, 11:14:52 AM
I like Toola Roola with blue/purple/white hair more then the one with orange/pink/blue/purple.

Is that the original Toola? IN which case I agree...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 16, 2020, 12:13:30 PM
I like Toola Roola with blue/purple/white hair more then the one with orange/pink/blue/purple.

Is that the original Toola? IN which case I agree...

Its the one I found yesterday so I think so.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on February 16, 2020, 07:21:19 PM
I like the Tootsie pose.

I vastly prefer adult ponies over babies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 16, 2020, 07:58:01 PM
G3 Cotton Candy is prettier then G1
Both Bowties are equally gorgeous
I prefer Loyal Subjects Minty over G1, G3 and G4
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 17, 2020, 04:09:06 AM
G3 Cotton Candy is prettier then G1
Totally agree with this one - G3 Cotton Candy is a very beautifully designed pony, in my opinion.  Slightly Related: It's a shame she seems to have next to no fanart out there...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 21, 2020, 02:47:49 PM
I love the pearly shimmery-ness of G3 plastic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Khoufu on February 22, 2020, 01:09:09 AM
I adore Beddy Bye Eye babies. I have the complete set already, but every time I see one, I want it. I naturally have a few duplicates, and its reasonable self control that has thus far kept it to only a few duplicates! I just really love them. I think they are sweet and cannot understand why they creep so many people out.
As a Furby fan I totally relate.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: promqueen on February 22, 2020, 09:37:16 AM
My unpopular opinions are that African ponies are ugly & I don't get the love for Takara they just look weird to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 22, 2020, 10:06:32 AM
I love the pearly shimmery-ness of G3 plastic.

I love the pearly ones, but I was surprised how much I really love G3 Wysteria in the diva pose, despite not liking that pose much. And I think it's all to do with how she's matte and it works so nicely with her colouring I just really love her. So for me pearl is a pony by pony thing.

I also agree about G3 CC I think. I have some nostalgia for G1 CC but I don't like that pose.

I genuinely think the retro collector pose set are mostly nicer than their original counterparts too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 22, 2020, 10:16:03 AM
I love the pearly shimmery-ness of G3 plastic.

I love the pearly ones, but I was surprised how much I really love G3 Wysteria in the diva pose, despite not liking that pose much. And I think it's all to do with how she's matte and it works so nicely with her colouring I just really love her. So for me pearl is a pony by pony thing.

I also agree about G3 CC I think. I have some nostalgia for G1 CC but I don't like that pose.

I genuinely think the retro collector pose set are mostly nicer than their original counterparts too.

Wysteria is just a pretty pony. I think she just kind of makes any pose she's in look good. Even the diva pose. I like her best on the Tangerine Twinkle pose personally.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 23, 2020, 09:53:02 AM
Not sure if being positive about Pony Life is still unpopular, but I'm positive about it - I also don't mind the animation/art style even if it is a step down from everything that came before (except maybe Newborn Cuties), but it doesn't look that bad in my opinion (I feel that all forms of animation can look good if done right, and as a pony show, it has potential to do it right.)  I also find it silly people comparing it to Teen Titans GO!, because it doesn't look like it to me.

I may have mentioned this before, but, in relation to this, a silly unpopular opinion of mine is, you know that song from the Pony Life commercial that everyone found inappropriate for MLP because it said the word "hell"?  Well, it's still not appropriate, but I still like it, because I nostalgically associate it with My Little Pony now.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on February 28, 2020, 12:07:01 AM
G1:- I like BBEs. They add extra poses & are a bit younger than non-BBEs
I prefer Boys to have furry hooves & am one of those who calls Sportstime & Schoolbag girls, while Customising Family Friends Daddies in furry hooves poses
I don't see the Pony cartoons as canon, & consider the UK stories more canon, while the cartoons were just Ponies acting. Even Tales is a Pony soap to me & the Characters are trying to live normal lives after their acting days
G2:- I like a lot of them & never got the hate. To me they're the same age as Dabble, Scribbles & the HQG1C wingless flutters. Plus the Babies are similar in age to Teeny G1s
G3:- I hate the fact they only have symbols on one side!!!
I love Newborn Cuties, & have Customised Newborn cuties of all the Soft Newborns I own, plus some others.
I don't like how G3s were portrayed in cartoons one bit. Far too babyish, & that's the adults.
G4:- So very small!!! As in a G4 adult is the same size as a G1 Baby!!!
Again, symbols on one side
Don't like the term cutie mark. What's wrong with rump??? Or hip???
Please for the love of God, stop repeating characters & give us more new ones!!! (I'd put that in caps but it would break rules so...)
Petites/ Ponyvilles/ Blind Bags:- I don't see them as the main part of a collection & only as a supplement. Don't understand why there are ten times as many Blind Bags as G4 brushables. I do still have some of each though
Plush:- I love all brushable plush!!! I also love plush with troll hair (like on the heads of troll dolls), & soft newborns with brushable or troll hair.
General: I prefer brushables wherever possible
I hate too much pink everywhere, & restrict my G3 collection accordingly. More blue/yellow/purple/orange/green/white please

And I think that's my Pony venting/opinion session over!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on February 28, 2020, 01:49:59 AM
O don't see the Pony cartoons as canon, & consider the UK stories more canon, while the cartoons were just Ponies acting. Even Tales is a Pony soap to me & the Characters are trying to live normal lives after their acting days

I love this idea! Pony actors! I sort of think of Friendship is Magic in a similar way, as it is so different from the pony world I imagine my ponies living in.

My latest unpopular opinion is that I quite like the recent Pony Life shorts that have been on YouTube. The continual giggling is a bit much, but I do think they're cute and I think I would have loved them as a little child - and little children are after all the target audience for ponies. I am not a big fan of FiM, I think it tries too hard and its morals are forced. Give me giggly ponies engaging in silly high jinks any day :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 28, 2020, 04:11:21 AM
O don't see the Pony cartoons as canon, & consider the UK stories more canon, while the cartoons were just Ponies acting. Even Tales is a Pony soap to me & the Characters are trying to live normal lives after their acting days


That's a great explanation for the TV shows. For me as a kid they were so much out of character, and with different names, and so on, that that explanation makes a lot more sense somehow.

I am very biased towards the UK canon, but it did run for longer and include more ponies. And a lot of the ponies that the UK did not have, the US did not include in the animation anyway...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on February 28, 2020, 06:55:56 AM
I don’t personally have a ‘canon’ but I prefer the stories of ponies living more like intelligent horses over humans who happen to look like ponies.  Basically, the more they act like humans, the less I like it.

Even though I liked FiM, I wasn’t invested in individual characters or stories.  Ponies could have been switched out all the time and I wouldn’t have minded or missed them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on February 28, 2020, 06:37:54 PM
O don't see the Pony cartoons as canon, & consider the UK stories more canon, while the cartoons were just Ponies acting. Even Tales is a Pony soap to me & the Characters are trying to live normal lives after their acting days


That's a great explanation for the TV shows. For me as a kid they were so much out of character, and with different names, and so on, that that explanation makes a lot more sense somehow.

I am very biased towards the UK canon, but it did run for longer and include more ponies. And a lot of the ponies that the UK did not have, the US did not include in the animation anyway...
O don't see the Pony cartoons as canon, & consider the UK stories more canon, while the cartoons were just Ponies acting. Even Tales is a Pony soap to me & the Characters are trying to live normal lives after their acting days

I love this idea! Pony actors! I sort of think of Friendship is Magic in a similar way, as it is so different from the pony world I imagine my ponies living in.

My latest unpopular opinion is that I quite like the recent Pony Life shorts that have been on YouTube. The continual giggling is a bit much, but I do think they're cute and I think I would have loved them as a little child - and little children are after all the target audience for ponies. I am not a big fan of FiM, I think it tries too hard and its morals are forced. Give me giggly ponies engaging in silly high jinks any day :)
Cheers folks xxx I know we have our own stories for everypony & how they fit in our Ponyworlds.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 28, 2020, 07:10:35 PM
I'm loving the G4 Retros. They're far prettier then any other Mane Suxx. I wish they'd left Twilight Sporkles symbol in tact though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 11, 2020, 08:31:07 AM
I don't get how its ruining a pony when a practiced and talented person  restores it. If it doesn't ruin old buildings, works of art, dinosaur skeletons, your 30 yo gaming system, or your rusty bike, then it won't ruin a toy.

I understand of course that its unscrupulous to not disclose that it had work done and sell it for full price as mint condition. Or that inexperienced people can muck it up in their quest to learn, but an honest seller and a good restoration is not a bad thing.

I  respect that this is a personal preference for many.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 11, 2020, 02:21:25 PM
I don't get how its ruining a pony when a practiced and talented person  restores it. If it doesn't ruin old buildings, works of art, dinosaur skeletons, your 30 yo gaming system, or your rusty bike, then it won't ruin a toy.

I understand of course that its unscrupulous to not disclose that it had work done and sell it for full price as mint condition. Or that inexperienced people can muck it up in their quest to learn, but an honest seller and a good restoration is not a bad thing.

I  respect that this is a personal preference for many.

I am fine with restoration so long as it is openly disclosed so that everyone knows where they stand. I don't buy rehairs, but have no issue with other people having/doing them so long as there's a way to identify it. And for some reason that's unpopular, but this is the thread for that. I can't understand how people are happy to rip out all the remaining original hair but flip out about making a small mark on the hoof to indicate a rehair. But that again is just my opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on March 11, 2020, 02:44:07 PM
-nod- I don't mind restoration, rehairing, whatever, just mark it if you alter it. I mean, I get not wanting to ink up its hooves or w/e, I guess it's that instinctual "aaaaa ponies and pen don't mix!!" reaction... or I know some people have suggested carving a little "RH" or w/e into their hooves... I dunno, I can see how the instinct is to NOT do stuff like that. But, yeah, if you've already rehaired, taken off the head, etc then you've already altered it, it's no longer "original", so what the hell.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 11, 2020, 02:47:54 PM
I don't get how its ruining a pony when a practiced and talented person  restores it. If it doesn't ruin old buildings, works of art, dinosaur skeletons, your 30 yo gaming system, or your rusty bike, then it won't ruin a toy.

I understand of course that its unscrupulous to not disclose that it had work done and sell it for full price as mint condition. Or that inexperienced people can muck it up in their quest to learn, but an honest seller and a good restoration is not a bad thing.

I  respect that this is a personal preference for many.

I am fine with restoration so long as it is openly disclosed so that everyone knows where they stand. I don't buy rehairs, but have no issue with other people having/doing them so long as there's a way to identify it. And for some reason that's unpopular, but this is the thread for that. I can't understand how people are happy to rip out all the remaining original hair but flip out about making a small mark on the hoof to indicate a rehair. But that again is just my opinion.

Tattoo Pony.   :cool:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 11, 2020, 03:11:42 PM
-nod- I don't mind restoration, rehairing, whatever, just mark it if you alter it. I mean, I get not wanting to ink up its hooves or w/e, I guess it's that instinctual "aaaaa ponies and pen don't mix!!" reaction... or I know some people have suggested carving a little "RH" or w/e into their hooves... I dunno, I can see how the instinct is to NOT do stuff like that. But, yeah, if you've already rehaired, taken off the head, etc then you've already altered it, it's no longer "original", so what the hell.

Yes! All of this, exactly. You put it so well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: little.fox on March 13, 2020, 07:25:16 AM
I’m pretty sure this will be a very unpopular opinion, and I feel like I’m the only one, but I can’t like the HQG1C ponies. I really love the idea of manufacturing more G1s, and in that regard I’d love to support their business, but the colors and themes don’t feel like Mlp to me, they just do nothing for me, I’m sorry to say!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: dragonfly on March 13, 2020, 08:29:40 AM
Rapunzel's continued popularity baffles me. Whenever the topic comes up, very few people say they like her! But she's been a highly sought after, expensive pony since I began collecting in the early 00s. It's funny that a pony so few people seem to actually like remains so popular.

My unpopular opinion is that I don't like (g1) Spike. He's whiny and annoying. The entire series could have done without the human kids.

I've always loved the flutter pony toys, but the Flutter Valley episodes are some of my least favorite.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 13, 2020, 08:37:29 AM
I agree that Megan and co are unnecessary. I like Spike in the comic, because he had his friendship with Baby Lucky, the paws and claws club and stuff, as well as his work with Majesty, rather than just being a squawky thing that popped up occasionally with no real purpose in the animation. Megan was also better in the comic, but she was hardly IN the comic...I always hated her for being the person who got to go play with ponies though, so I am biased xD.

Rapunzel seems to be a status symbol now which is sad. If I hadn't got mine years ago for a good trade I wouldn't be chasing after her.

My unpopular opinion is that Sweet Scoops is 100% nicer. And I don't care for the Sundae Best, with their mutated poses and weird 3d symbols (not to mention poison scents), but Sweet Scoops has all the charm that Sorbet Surprise/Sherbet struggles with. On the other hand, Glittering Gem is way nicer and much cheaper than Rapunzel.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: flutterscotch on March 13, 2020, 09:14:29 PM
The Brush and Grow ponies make me sad. Their color schemes are among my absolute favorites, almost all top notch.  But they have all of my least favorite poses (seriously, if Pretty Vision was in the Tootsie pose it would be 6/6) and symbols that are associated with vanity (the literal piece of furniture and the surrounding accoutrements, not the concept of) and toiletries just don't do anything for me.

The Firefly pegasus pose has the best wings, even if they don't look connected to the body, but that weird hoof outline on the bent leg drives me insane to the point that I can't display those ponies on that side. The Locket pose is the cutest pegasus pose but has the worst wing sculpt (next to the baby Lofty pose).  The Heart Throb pose has really solid wings, but ponies in that pose always remind me of bored teenagers, just kinda staring at you. Silently judging.

The Tiny Bubbles mold and the baby Ballerina mold have the friendliest faces of all the ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Queen Sophie on March 15, 2020, 02:10:38 PM
I’m not into the mint package. I prefer to hold the pony and take pictures of her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kellybates1993 on March 15, 2020, 05:54:25 PM
Rapunzel's continued popularity baffles me. Whenever the topic comes up, very few people say they like her! But she's been a highly sought after, expensive pony since I began collecting in the early 00s. It's funny that a pony so few people seem to actually like remains so popular.

My unpopular opinion is that I don't like (g1) Spike. He's whiny and annoying. The entire series could have done without the human kids.

I've always loved the flutter pony toys, but the Flutter Valley episodes are some of my least favorite.
I see this opinion way more than i see people who actually like her and it's so surprising to me that people want her as a status symbol  :huh:
I absolutely adore rapunzel for her colouring and her hair, but I'm pretty obsessed with the story of rapunzel already so maybe that's why she's so appealing to me?
I absolutely refuse to pay the going rate for a real rapunzel and I'm not bothered about the status symbol of an original so im having a fakie made by a lovely arena member and will most certainly have her hoof marked so she is a known fakie, but I totally get why she isn't the pony for everyone, it's just a shame for the people who genuinely want her that she pops up every 6 months or so for like £1000  :(
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 15, 2020, 06:18:37 PM
Rapunzel's continued popularity baffles me. Whenever the topic comes up, very few people say they like her! But she's been a highly sought after, expensive pony since I began collecting in the early 00s. It's funny that a pony so few people seem to actually like remains so popular.

My unpopular opinion is that I don't like (g1) Spike. He's whiny and annoying. The entire series could have done without the human kids.

I've always loved the flutter pony toys, but the Flutter Valley episodes are some of my least favorite.
I see this opinion way more than i see people who actually like her and it's so surprising to me that people want her as a status symbol  :huh:
I absolutely adore rapunzel for her colouring and her hair, but I'm pretty obsessed with the story of rapunzel already so maybe that's why she's so appealing to me?
I absolutely refuse to pay the going rate for a real rapunzel and I'm not bothered about the status symbol of an original so im having a fakie made by a lovely arena member and will most certainly have her hoof marked so she is a known fakie, but I totally get why she isn't the pony for everyone, it's just a shame for the people who genuinely want her that she pops up every 6 months or so for like £1000  :(

Geeze!  :blink:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 18, 2020, 08:16:13 AM
I don't get the big deal over Lady Bird and Lambaditsa. They're okay.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on March 18, 2020, 08:28:59 AM
I don't get the big deal over Lady Bird and Lambaditsa. They're okay.
Same.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 18, 2020, 08:30:13 AM
I don't get the big deal over Lady Bird and Lambaditsa. They're okay.
Same.

I dunno. I'm just not really find of that color scheme. Peach and pink are just so-so. All peach and peach and blue is pretty though. And peach/radioactive red/white works remarkably well, even though it shouldn't.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 18, 2020, 10:42:32 AM
I don't get the big deal over Lady Bird and Lambaditsa. They're okay.

Agreed. Sitting ponies are meh, Peachy is meh, Sitting pony plus peachy = meh squared.

Though I feel superficially smug that people still use the name ladybird after all these years
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 18, 2020, 11:06:50 AM
I don't get the big deal over Lady Bird and Lambaditsa. They're okay.

Agreed. Sitting ponies are meh, Peachy is meh, Sitting pony plus peachy = meh squared.

Though I feel superficially smug that people still use the name ladybird after all these years

Okay that last part had me   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on March 18, 2020, 05:29:16 PM
I don't get the big deal over Lady Bird and Lambaditsa. They're okay.

Agreed. Sitting ponies are meh, Peachy is meh, Sitting pony plus peachy = meh squared.

Though I feel superficially smug that people still use the name ladybird after all these years
I'm pretty fond of my Lambaditsa tbh. If only she & Ladybird weren't nearly twins though... (I also like the name Ladybird xxx)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on March 18, 2020, 07:56:14 PM
I’m not into the mint package. I prefer to hold the pony and take pictures of her.

Agreed, and for this reason I would never buy a vintage MIB pony!  I'd be way too tempted to take her out, which would probably horrify some collectors.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on March 18, 2020, 07:59:52 PM
I’m not into the mint package. I prefer to hold the pony and take pictures of her.

Agreed, and for this reason I would never buy a vintage MIB pony!  I'd be way too tempted to take her out, which would probably horrify some collectors.
Only Pony I want MIP is Twisty Tail (UK preferred but Euro acceptable). Otherwise generally nope
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on March 19, 2020, 09:00:11 AM
I’m not into the mint package. I prefer to hold the pony and take pictures of her.

Agreed, and for this reason I would never buy a vintage MIB pony!  I'd be way too tempted to take her out, which would probably horrify some collectors.

I vastly prefer loose ponies over MIB ones, though I appreciate MIB collectors and MIB items. A MIB Merry Go Round pony came into my possession once. I loved her. I love MGR ponies in general and dont see them come up for sale often. I didn't have her in my collection yet and toyed with deboxing her for about a year before deciding against it and selling her here MIB. Anyway, I still don't have her in my collection. :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 19, 2020, 09:31:06 AM
I’m not into the mint package. I prefer to hold the pony and take pictures of her.

Agreed, and for this reason I would never buy a vintage MIB pony!  I'd be way too tempted to take her out, which would probably horrify some collectors.

I vastly prefer loose ponies over MIB ones, though I appreciate MIB collectors and MIB items. A MIB Merry Go Round pony came into my possession once. I loved her. I love MGR ponies in general and dont see them come up for sale often. I didn't have her in my collection yet and toyed with deboxing her for about a year before deciding against it and selling her here MIB. Anyway, I still don't have her in my collection. :/

Merry Go Rounds are gorgeous! Too bad Hasbro is too cheap and lazy to do it again these days.

Could you have imagined MGR G3s?! :frolic:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on March 19, 2020, 10:02:49 AM
I’m not into the mint package. I prefer to hold the pony and take pictures of her.

Agreed, and for this reason I would never buy a vintage MIB pony!  I'd be way too tempted to take her out, which would probably horrify some collectors.

I vastly prefer loose ponies over MIB ones, though I appreciate MIB collectors and MIB items. A MIB Merry Go Round pony came into my possession once. I loved her. I love MGR ponies in general and dont see them come up for sale often. I didn't have her in my collection yet and toyed with deboxing her for about a year before deciding against it and selling her here MIB. Anyway, I still don't have her in my collection. :/

Merry Go Rounds are gorgeous! Too bad Hasbro is too cheap and lazy to do it again these days.

Could you have imagined MGR G3s?! :frolic:
Merry Go Rounds are among my favorites! I'd die if they had made them for g3
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 19, 2020, 02:16:18 PM
Rehoming a MIB rather than deboxing it is one of the nicer things a collector can do imo. There's a home for every kind of pony, and if that home isn't yours, better to move it on.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on March 19, 2020, 04:42:27 PM
I’m not into the mint package. I prefer to hold the pony and take pictures of her.

Agreed, and for this reason I would never buy a vintage MIB pony!  I'd be way too tempted to take her out, which would probably horrify some collectors.

I vastly prefer loose ponies over MIB ones, though I appreciate MIB collectors and MIB items. A MIB Merry Go Round pony came into my possession once. I loved her. I love MGR ponies in general and dont see them come up for sale often. I didn't have her in my collection yet and toyed with deboxing her for about a year before deciding against it and selling her here MIB. Anyway, I still don't have her in my collection. :/

Merry Go Rounds are gorgeous! Too bad Hasbro is too cheap and lazy to do it again these days.

Could you have imagined MGR G3s?! :frolic:
Merry Go Rounds are among my favorites! I'd die if they had made them for g3

Ooooo, G3 MGRs would be awesome!  I wonder if anyone ever made a custom like that? I don't remember seeing any but that doesn't mean they don't exist!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyAmalthea on March 20, 2020, 08:33:50 AM
My unpopular opinions mostly can be shared with many others on here (I actually read through this entire post prior to having my account approved! It took me days)...but the one I haven't seen mentioned yet is this one: I hate almost all of the names of the second round of G1 twins that were released. Seriously, some of them are SO stupid.


Jabber and Jebber: these are not even words, much less names. What the heck is a 'Jebber'?

Sniffles and Sticky: First of all, did it not occur to the person who came up with these to look up what the previously released twins were called? Because if they even bothered, they would have discovered that there was already another twin named Sniffles, paired with Snookums. That in itself is an unpopular opinion of mine, the recycling of names. It's confusing. That aside, 'Sniffles and Sticky' is just a revolting name combination; it reminds me of a little kid with a cold wiping snot everywhere. Good job, Hasbro.  >_<

Speckles and Bunkie: What on earth is a 'Bunkie', and how does it coordinate with 'Speckles'? They could have come up with something better than that. How about 'Speckles and Spots' or 'Speckles and Freckles'

Big Top and Toppy: Kind of redundant, if you ask me. It reminds me of a real-life set of twins I know named Kayla and Mikayla. Like one could be a nickname for the other...it's always struck me as weird. Also redundant are Big Top's colors; she is basically the same as Rattles and Tattles. In fact, I don't even feel the need to collect this set.

Puddles and Peeks: Not the worst, but the name Peeks is a little dumb and they could have come up with something equally as catchy with Puddles. And what is with the crapping bird symbol on their rump? My sister and I always called them Puddles and Poops, like #1 and #2. Our storyline was that they had troubles with potty training.  :lol:

Sandcastle and Shovels: This one is actually not so bad. Plus I like their color combinations; I feel like they didn't use enough color variations with twins...all pastels and mostly boring. The orange and blue is at least different, even if still pastel. Too bad this set is so hard to find and expensive; they must not have released as many sets of them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 20, 2020, 09:57:32 AM
We only had 3 of the six sets, but those we did have had different names in the UK. Albeit whether they are any better...
Jabber and Jebber = Tickles & Giggles
Speckles & Bunkie = Fleecy and Fluffy
Sticky and Sniffles = Tuggles and Toddles.

On the name subject...I think it's sad more UK people don't use the UK G1 names, even though the UK had far less name repetition than the US. I can understand why for people who came into G1 as adults, but not so much the ones who grew up with G1 as kids.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on March 20, 2020, 12:11:11 PM
In my opinion Jebber could have been named "Jibber" so that set of twins could have made the phrase "Jibber-Jabber" (meaning talking so fast, you don't understand - though I may have also heard it to mean "talking nonsense".)  I also googled "Bunkie" and the only thing I found (though I didn't search for long) was that it could be slang for a bunk mate - nothing to do with Speckles whatsoever as far as I can see, and when I search for both words, I just get the ponies.  I even tried searching "Safety Pin" (as in their symbols) with each name to see if I could find significance, but no.

But yeah... the names you mentioned in general aren't the best, in my opinion either.

On the name subject...I think it's sad more UK people don't use the UK G1 names, even though the UK had far less name repetition than the US. I can understand why for people who came into G1 as adults, but not so much the ones who grew up with G1 as kids.
I'm not sure why the ones who grew up with it don't do this, as you'd think they'd be the first to do this...

For me, (I came in as an adult) I tend to lean to the US names, because that's what I discovered them as, but I may choose the names I prefer out of the two for my project, or even compromise, like I planned to do for the canon names and the brony names in G4 (though if I recall correctly, only two G4 ponies really kept my "compromises" - and Hasbro compromised with "Lyra/Heartstrings" the same way I was going to anyway.)

I'll have a look through what the US/UK names in G1 are, and see which I like better, or if there are anyways to use both if I choose to in writing - for example, Sweet Stuff was called Sweetie in UK, but that's an easy one to compromise, as "Sweetie" could easily be Sweet Stuff's nickname anyway.


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on March 20, 2020, 12:23:20 PM
The pony name that always gets me is Woosie. :lol:  I always picture a drunk or sick pony. Sometimes I think Hasbro came up with some of the pony names at the company cocktail party.

I grew up in the US so I didn't know the UK had different names for ponies until I joined the Arena but I try to use both names if I know them like Princess Tiffany/Pearl Sguarberry/Strawberry Fair etc..


Ponyfan




Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on March 20, 2020, 12:24:23 PM
I’m not into the mint package. I prefer to hold the pony and take pictures of her.

Agreed, and for this reason I would never buy a vintage MIB pony!  I'd be way too tempted to take her out, which would probably horrify some collectors.

I vastly prefer loose ponies over MIB ones, though I appreciate MIB collectors and MIB items. A MIB Merry Go Round pony came into my possession once. I loved her. I love MGR ponies in general and dont see them come up for sale often. I didn't have her in my collection yet and toyed with deboxing her for about a year before deciding against it and selling her here MIB. Anyway, I still don't have her in my collection. :/

Merry Go Rounds are gorgeous! Too bad Hasbro is too cheap and lazy to do it again these days.

Could you have imagined MGR G3s?! :frolic:
Merry Go Rounds are among my favorites! I'd die if they had made them for g3

Ooooo, G3 MGRs would be awesome!  I wonder if anyone ever made a custom like that? I don't remember seeing any but that doesn't mean they don't exist!
I'm fairly certain I've seen customs like that in the past, but its been a long while!
Edit: found them! https://www.deviantart.com/woosie/art/Merry-Go-Round-ponies-Set-2-203225055
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on March 20, 2020, 12:30:40 PM
I think "Bunkie" refers to Bunkie beds/boards used in baby beds.  In the 80s the term was used more often in the US.  At least, where I lived it was common.  I think the name is cute.

I did hate when Hasbro reused names.  Baby Gusty got robbed.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on March 20, 2020, 01:45:38 PM
yeah I feel like Jebber must have been a typo that didn't get caught in time? It's the only thing that makes sense to me. Bunkie sounds like a region-specific sort of thing (I think it's cute, too).

Sticky and Sniffles on the other hand... :X Gross.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 20, 2020, 02:26:55 PM

On the name subject...I think it's sad more UK people don't use the UK G1 names, even though the UK had far less name repetition than the US. I can understand why for people who came into G1 as adults, but not so much the ones who grew up with G1 as kids.
I'm not sure why the ones who grew up with it don't do this, as you'd think they'd be the first to do this...



I get stick for this but as far as I'm concerned they've sold out ;)

In seriousness, it makes sense if you come to it as an adult as the ID websites are laboriously US-centric - but if you grew up with something...yeah, I don't get it at all. And I do find it sad, because it's a piece of UK pony heritage basically being abandoned and lost.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on March 20, 2020, 06:28:44 PM
Regarding US names, my favourites are Molasses (because who wants two Gingerbreads???) & Pina Colada. My least favourites are Bunkie (just yeuch), Sweet Stuff (Sweetie's far better anyway) & all their repeats. The earth newborn twins wi the pink bodies & the seesaw accessory will always be Tuggles & Toddles to me (the blue-haired one is male as Newborns don't show gender differences yet). I do have reasons for using the names I use, & in 3 cases I use both, but the second goes on a Custom Twin:
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UK name: Trucker. US name: Four-Speed. To me the Custom Twin gets the US name
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UK name: First Base. US name: Slugger.
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UK name: Tracks. US name: Steamer.
I didn't do Tug as Salty is already another Pony (Sea Sparkle Baby Sea Pony).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 21, 2020, 08:05:34 AM
This is slightly off topic but because Woolworths imported the Candy Canes in US boxes and sold them here (all six) while the four set were being sold in other places, Molasses is technically a UK name as well. I actually have an Xmas list from when I was a kid which says Candy Cane Molasses on it, although I had no recollection of this name when I came online and it's not in the comics. Most of my ponies came from Woolworths so my only explanation is that I saw one on the shelves. I didn't get her so it remains a mystery - but CC ponies (including Mint Dreams and Lemon Treats) are confirmed as imports here. So we can claim that name.

I agree, it's the only US variant name I give any credence to because it avoids a repeat.

Your customs are cute :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: kingluke on March 21, 2020, 09:34:22 AM
New opinion. As a dutch person i don't care about the dutch exclusives.
They just aren't really appealling to me and very pricey for soemthing I don't want.
Good for others, just not for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on March 21, 2020, 03:34:13 PM
I’m not into the mint package. I prefer to hold the pony and take pictures of her.

Agreed, and for this reason I would never buy a vintage MIB pony!  I'd be way too tempted to take her out, which would probably horrify some collectors.

I vastly prefer loose ponies over MIB ones, though I appreciate MIB collectors and MIB items. A MIB Merry Go Round pony came into my possession once. I loved her. I love MGR ponies in general and dont see them come up for sale often. I didn't have her in my collection yet and toyed with deboxing her for about a year before deciding against it and selling her here MIB. Anyway, I still don't have her in my collection. :/

Merry Go Rounds are gorgeous! Too bad Hasbro is too cheap and lazy to do it again these days.

Could you have imagined MGR G3s?! :frolic:
Merry Go Rounds are among my favorites! I'd die if they had made them for g3

Ooooo, G3 MGRs would be awesome!  I wonder if anyone ever made a custom like that? I don't remember seeing any but that doesn't mean they don't exist!
I'm fairly certain I've seen customs like that in the past, but its been a long while!
Edit: found them! https://www.deviantart.com/woosie/art/Merry-Go-Round-ponies-Set-2-203225055
Oh my gosh those are gorgeous!  Thanks for finding them and sharing!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on March 21, 2020, 03:44:46 PM
I’m not into the mint package. I prefer to hold the pony and take pictures of her.

Agreed, and for this reason I would never buy a vintage MIB pony!  I'd be way too tempted to take her out, which would probably horrify some collectors.

I vastly prefer loose ponies over MIB ones, though I appreciate MIB collectors and MIB items. A MIB Merry Go Round pony came into my possession once. I loved her. I love MGR ponies in general and dont see them come up for sale often. I didn't have her in my collection yet and toyed with deboxing her for about a year before deciding against it and selling her here MIB. Anyway, I still don't have her in my collection. :/

Merry Go Rounds are gorgeous! Too bad Hasbro is too cheap and lazy to do it again these days.

Could you have imagined MGR G3s?! :frolic:
Merry Go Rounds are among my favorites! I'd die if they had made them for g3

Ooooo, G3 MGRs would be awesome!  I wonder if anyone ever made a custom like that? I don't remember seeing any but that doesn't mean they don't exist!
I'm fairly certain I've seen customs like that in the past, but its been a long while!
Edit: found them! https://www.deviantart.com/woosie/art/Merry-Go-Round-ponies-Set-2-203225055
Oh my gosh those are gorgeous!  Thanks for finding them and sharing!
Of course!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on March 21, 2020, 06:01:07 PM
I’m not into the mint package. I prefer to hold the pony and take pictures of her.

Agreed, and for this reason I would never buy a vintage MIB pony!  I'd be way too tempted to take her out, which would probably horrify some collectors.

I vastly prefer loose ponies over MIB ones, though I appreciate MIB collectors and MIB items. A MIB Merry Go Round pony came into my possession once. I loved her. I love MGR ponies in general and dont see them come up for sale often. I didn't have her in my collection yet and toyed with deboxing her for about a year before deciding against it and selling her here MIB. Anyway, I still don't have her in my collection. :/

Merry Go Rounds are gorgeous! Too bad Hasbro is too cheap and lazy to do it again these days.

Could you have imagined MGR G3s?! :frolic:
Merry Go Rounds are among my favorites! I'd die if they had made them for g3

Ooooo, G3 MGRs would be awesome!  I wonder if anyone ever made a custom like that? I don't remember seeing any but that doesn't mean they don't exist!
I'm fairly certain I've seen customs like that in the past, but its been a long while!
Edit: found them! https://www.deviantart.com/woosie/art/Merry-Go-Round-ponies-Set-2-203225055
Oh my gosh those are gorgeous!  Thanks for finding them and sharing!
Of course!
Great find of an adorable pic!!! Wonder if Woosie is on here???
This is slightly off topic but because Woolworths imported the Candy Canes in US boxes and sold them here (all six) while the four set were being sold in other places, Molasses is technically a UK name as well. I actually have an Xmas list from when I was a kid which says Candy Cane Molasses on it, although I had no recollection of this name when I came online and it's not in the comics. Most of my ponies came from Woolworths so my only explanation is that I saw one on the shelves. I didn't get her so it remains a mystery - but CC ponies (including Mint Dreams and Lemon Treats) are confirmed as imports here. So we can claim that name.

I agree, it's the only US variant name I give any credence to because it avoids a repeat.

Your customs are cute :)
Cheers Taf xxx I like them too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyAmalthea on March 22, 2020, 01:36:20 PM
We only had 3 of the six sets, but those we did have had different names in the UK. Albeit whether they are any better...
Jabber and Jebber = Tickles & Giggles
Speckles & Bunkie = Fleecy and Fluffy
Sticky and Sniffles = Tuggles and Toddles.

On the name subject...I think it's sad more UK people don't use the UK G1 names, even though the UK had far less name repetition than the US. I can understand why for people who came into G1 as adults, but not so much the ones who grew up with G1 as kids.

I do like those names better. I don't know a lot of the UK names that were used--it would be cool if there was a database somewhere that compared the UK vs. US names--but most of the ones I have heard have seemed more appropriate somehow.

Post Merge: March 22, 2020, 01:41:05 PM

In my opinion Jebber could have been named "Jibber" so that set of twins could have made the phrase "Jibber-Jabber" (meaning talking so fast, you don't understand - though I may have also heard it to mean "talking nonsense".)  I also googled "Bunkie" and the only thing I found (though I didn't search for long) was that it could be slang for a bunk mate - nothing to do with Speckles whatsoever as far as I can see, and when I search for both words, I just get the ponies.  I even tried searching "Safety Pin" (as in their symbols) with each name to see if I could find significance, but no.

But yeah... the names you mentioned in general aren't the best, in my opinion either.

On the name subject...I think it's sad more UK people don't use the UK G1 names, even though the UK had far less name repetition than the US. I can understand why for people who came into G1 as adults, but not so much the ones who grew up with G1 as kids.
I'm not sure why the ones who grew up with it don't do this, as you'd think they'd be the first to do this...

For me, (I came in as an adult) I tend to lean to the US names, because that's what I discovered them as, but I may choose the names I prefer out of the two for my project, or even compromise, like I planned to do for the canon names and the brony names in G4 (though if I recall correctly, only two G4 ponies really kept my "compromises" - and Hasbro compromised with "Lyra/Heartstrings" the same way I was going to anyway.)

I'll have a look through what the US/UK names in G1 are, and see which I like better, or if there are anyways to use both if I choose to in writing - for example, Sweet Stuff was called Sweetie in UK, but that's an easy one to compromise, as "Sweetie" could easily be Sweet Stuff's nickname anyway.

I agree, Jibber and Jabber would have been more appropriate, and made some sense. And the safety pin on Speckles and Bunkie didn't help to give any clues, either. It's like someone at Hasbro asked their 3-year-old their opinion on naming them.

Post Merge: March 22, 2020, 01:51:48 PM

The pony name that always gets me is Woosie. :lol:  I always picture a drunk or sick pony. Sometimes I think Hasbro came up with some of the pony names at the company cocktail party.

I grew up in the US so I didn't know the UK had different names for ponies until I joined the Arena but I try to use both names if I know them like Princess Tiffany/Pearl Sguarberry/Strawberry Fair etc..


Ponyfan

I had never heard of Woosie before, and I had to look her up. I like her color scheme, but man, that name! It made me remember this letter I wrote to Hasbro when I was 8 or 9, complete with pictures I drew of ponies that I thought they should make, and one of my creations was a set of twins by the names of 'Tipsy and Topsy' (I think I was trying to go for Topsy-Turvy or something?). Someone from the Hasbro team actually wrote back, sending my drawings back and explaining that they weren't permitted to use my ideas for legal reasons, but that she was sure that I was a very creative child and would maybe someday pursue working for a company like Hasbro when I was grown up, or something like that. My mom read the letter and looked at the drawing, and started laughing...she explained that 'Tipsy' meant drunk and my letter probably got a few laughs in the staff room.

So maybe I'm the pot calling the kettle black in the naming department, but hey, I was like 9!

Post Merge: March 22, 2020, 01:57:33 PM

I think "Bunkie" refers to Bunkie beds/boards used in baby beds.  In the 80s the term was used more often in the US.  At least, where I lived it was common.  I think the name is cute.

I did hate when Hasbro reused names.  Baby Gusty got robbed.

Now that you say that, I think I have heard the term 'Bunkie boards' before in reference to the skinny little box springs that go under bunk beds. I can see it being cute if it were paired up with a more relevant twin name.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 22, 2020, 05:09:44 PM
I think flamingos are tacky as a decoration, (I like them IRL) but after getting Tropical Breeze and drooling over Fair Feathers I want MORE Mingo Ponies!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on March 24, 2020, 02:06:02 PM
I think flamingos are tacky as a decoration, (I like them IRL) but after getting Tropical Breeze and drooling over Fair Feathers I want MORE Mingo Ponies!
Ha I love their tackyness. But I want more flamingo horses too!! So pretty. <3

Anyway, for unpopular opinion, (I cannot remember if I've said this yet) I prefer Cherry Treats discolored. I think she's pretty a true white sure, but we get a lot of that color scheme! She just rocks the tan imo
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leikin on March 25, 2020, 09:02:23 AM
Maybe not really about ponies, but something that annoys me is the use of numbering variants from the mlp wiki.  Like "this is Italian Blossom variant nr 3" in sales posts and such.  It's not like they have a distinct official number on which one is which, they just happens to be numbered that way because of the appearence on a list. :P

Aand, I think Tic Tac Toe is a very underrated pony. Especially the baby. I mean, look at the colours in her mane and tail! I love that colour combo!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MerryAnvil on March 25, 2020, 09:17:50 AM
Aand, I think Tic Tac Toe is a very underrated pony. Especially the baby. I mean, look at the colours in her mane and tail! I love that colour combo!

I 100% agree with this! I've loved Tic Tac Toe ever since I was little <3 I adore how bright and colorful she is!

I love Bride pose ponies, especially the Color Swirl set. Also the Teeny Tiny Newborns (they're so small and so cute! They fit right in my palm!). I noticed lately that this is a bit of an unpopular opinion >u<

Also this is probably a super, super unpopular opinion but I actually love the way ponies look with heavy regrind. I mean the full-on polka-dotted ones. It just looks so neat to me!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 25, 2020, 09:23:17 AM
A seller citing wiki for a Nirvana pony - or a non US pony for that matter - is basically telling the buyer that they did one 10 sec google search and probably don't know a lot about the item. On the other hand...they cared enough to do some research, which imo makes them better than the scourds of mlp rare name unknown listings that still pollute the internet.

Tictactoe is an awesome pony.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 25, 2020, 05:16:22 PM
Maybe not really about ponies, but something that annoys me is the use of numbering variants from the mlp wiki.  Like "this is Italian Blossom variant nr 3" in sales posts and such.  It's not like they have a distinct official number on which one is which, they just happens to be numbered that way because of the appearence on a list. :P

Aand, I think Tic Tac Toe is a very underrated pony. Especially the baby. I mean, look at the colours in her mane and tail! I love that colour combo!

I wouldn't call Tic Tac Toe underrated. She's fairly popular.

She's been eluding me for a long time. I love her!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shadowperla on March 27, 2020, 04:04:05 PM
Opinion: would be ok with old character reuse IF it goes back to other gens and not "same 6/7 of g4 and 3".
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Queen Sophie on March 29, 2020, 01:12:31 AM
I like g3 Rainbow Dash more than g4 Rainbow Dash.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on March 29, 2020, 06:34:06 AM
I like g3 Rainbow Dash more than g4 Rainbow Dash.
I don't like either one of them but I have to admit that the G3 RD seems more tolerable to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 29, 2020, 11:53:46 AM
I like g3 Rainbow Dash more than g4 Rainbow Dash.

Personality wise I prefer OG RD.

If I want a sassy tomboy I'll take Patch.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on March 29, 2020, 05:48:28 PM
I like G4 Rainbow Dash’s symbol over G3.  It just makes more sense.  But I like G3’s grayish color better. I’m only talking about the toys because they can have whatever personality I give them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 29, 2020, 05:53:03 PM
I like G4 Rainbow Dash’s symbol over G3.  It just makes more sense.  But I like G3’s grayish color better. I’m only talking about the toys because they can have whatever personality I give them.

I like G3's shape and quality, but G4's colors.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on March 30, 2020, 03:28:46 AM
This probably doesn't even count as unpopular, but I feel like joining in.

I love both of those Rainbow Dashes. - they both have likeable personalities in my opinion, and both mean a lot to me.  ^_^

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on March 30, 2020, 10:38:39 AM
I like g3 Rainbow Dash more than g4 Rainbow Dash.
This. I've come to hate g4 Rainbow Dash. (I know I know that sounds harsh but she became annoying to me  :lookround:)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on March 30, 2020, 01:58:11 PM
I greatly dislike the G4 comics by IDW as they have a lot of wonky, off-model art. That's the sole reason why I could never get into them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 30, 2020, 02:51:08 PM
I like g3 Rainbow Dash more than g4 Rainbow Dash.
This. I've come to hate g4 Rainbow Dash. (I know I know that sounds harsh but she became annoying to me  :lookround:)

I also agree with this. I see G3 Rainbow Dash as a descendant of Sunlight in terms of idea/design.

I don't hate the pony, she's quite pretty, but ruined by her obnoxious persona.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 30, 2020, 02:56:33 PM
How much is Patch going for anyway?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: caseysealia on March 30, 2020, 06:34:28 PM
I greatly dislike the G4 comics by IDW as they have a lot of wonky, off-model art. That's the sole reason why I could never get into them.
I ADORED the first 12 I think? Then the art just annoyed me. I liked the plots of a lot of them but yeah, that statement's valid
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyAmalthea on March 31, 2020, 08:01:04 AM
An unpopular opinion I have is that I don't like ponies (or any toys, really) with factory-curled hair. Whoever thought it was a good idea to curl pony or doll hair and then give it to an unruly child....smh.  :shrug:

I have been about 50/50 on recurling my ponies' hair when restoring them. Some I am unsure if they actually came with curly hair or not, like Baby Surprise/Firefly, because I never see any that have it now, and their manes aren't very long, so I've just been styling them straight.

I recently bought my son a set of Mane Six brushables (mostly to steer him away from my G1s that I don't want him to destroy), and the curly haired ones are already trashed. I haven't given him Pinkie Pie yet, because I was going to try to wash and straighten her hair first in hopes of saving it; it's like they came with this factory glue(wax?) in their hair to make it look nice in the package, but man, it wreaks havoc the minute a child tries to play with it. Like, were these not meant to actually be played with?  :crazy:

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 31, 2020, 09:31:21 AM
An unpopular opinion I have is that I don't like ponies (or any toys, really) with factory-curled hair. Whoever thought it was a good idea to curl pony or doll hair and then give it to an unruly child....smh.  :shrug:

I have been about 50/50 on recurling my ponies' hair when restoring them. Some I am unsure if they actually came with curly hair or not, like Baby Surprise/Firefly, because I never see any that have it now, and their manes aren't very long, so I've just been styling them straight.

I recently bought my son a set of Mane Six brushables (mostly to steer him away from my G1s that I don't want him to destroy), and the curly haired ones are already trashed. I haven't given him Pinkie Pie yet, because I was going to try to wash and straighten her hair first in hopes of saving it; it's like they came with this factory glue(wax?) in their hair to make it look nice in the package, but man, it wreaks havoc the minute a child tries to play with it. Like, were these not meant to actually be played with?  :crazy:

I don't care much for pre-styled hair either. My Basic Funs have twisty hair and I straighten them too. I like running my fingers through hair.

It looks pretty when other people curl their hair, but really that is partially how they're meant to be played with.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on March 31, 2020, 10:21:54 AM
An unpopular opinion I have is that I don't like ponies (or any toys, really) with factory-curled hair. Whoever thought it was a good idea to curl pony or doll hair and then give it to an unruly child....smh.  :shrug:

I have been about 50/50 on recurling my ponies' hair when restoring them. Some I am unsure if they actually came with curly hair or not, like Baby Surprise/Firefly, because I never see any that have it now, and their manes aren't very long, so I've just been styling them straight.

I recently bought my son a set of Mane Six brushables (mostly to steer him away from my G1s that I don't want him to destroy), and the curly haired ones are already trashed. I haven't given him Pinkie Pie yet, because I was going to try to wash and straighten her hair first in hopes of saving it; it's like they came with this factory glue(wax?) in their hair to make it look nice in the package, but man, it wreaks havoc the minute a child tries to play with it. Like, were these not meant to actually be played with?  :crazy:

I don't care much for pre-styled hair either. My Basic Funs have twisty hair and I straighten them too. I like running my fingers through hair.

It looks pretty when other people curl their hair, but really that is partially how they're meant to be played with.
THIS!!! SO MUCH!!! Make hair styleable & manageable, so the kids (& us) can style it how we like please!!! In my Ponyworld every Pony gets a braided tail & a nice ribbon at the end of that braid. It may not be original, but it's a good quality satin or metallic ribbon wi a colour complementing the Pony. I also love to style the manes of Ponies wi long hair. You give us toys wi hair, we're going to groom & style it!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 31, 2020, 10:24:21 AM
I love factory curl :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on March 31, 2020, 10:54:34 AM
I love factory curl :D

Me too. :D I was just admiring the curls on my birthflower ponies earlier.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on March 31, 2020, 12:13:57 PM
I greatly dislike the G4 comics by IDW as they have a lot of wonky, off-model art. That's the sole reason why I could never get into them.
I ADORED the first 12 I think? Then the art just annoyed me. I liked the plots of a lot of them but yeah, that statement's valid

I would rather have a so-so plot but amazing art than an amazing plot and so-so art. I used to buy a lot of Franco-Belgian stuff when I was a teenager and a lot of it had clicheed plots or characters but the art was always top notch.

I think the FiM ponies are hard to translate into other art styles. You have to keep them sleek and stylized, imo. Their muzzles are espeially tough for some artists because they are so miniscule, some renditions make them look like anime human faces and that's just creepy :|
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyAmalthea on April 01, 2020, 06:37:51 AM
[quote author=LadyAmalthea link=topic=385476.msg1809558#msg1809558

I don't care much for pre-styled hair either. My Basic Funs have twisty hair and I straighten them too. I like running my fingers through hair.

It looks pretty when other people curl their hair, but really that is partially how they're meant to be played with.
THIS!!! SO MUCH!!! Make hair styleable & manageable, so the kids (& us) can style it how we like please!!! In my Ponyworld every Pony gets a braided tail & a nice ribbon at the end of that braid. It may not be original, but it's a good quality satin or metallic ribbon wi a colour complementing the Pony. I also love to style the manes of Ponies wi long hair. You give us toys wi hair, we're going to groom & style it!!!

Yes, I like to run my fingers through it as well, and smooth their manes down, it is a comforting thing, I guess. I have tried curling hair by wrapping it around a crayon and binding it up with paper towels,  but I can't get it to look as good as others' pics I see online.

I braided all my childhood ponies' hair probably a decade ago after my stepkids outgrew them and I was putting them into storage for a while, in hopes of preserving their hair. I fastened the braids with those little rubber ties (usually clear to look invisible, but these ones were neon colored). When I recovered them, the bands were dry-rotted, but the braids were still in! The ponies had survived a basement flood, so maybe the braids saved their hair, I don't know! They were still in a lot worse of shape than I remembered leaving them; the ends of the braids were now frizzed. Most cleaned up all right, but I like your idea of getting them ribbons for their hair, maybe once we're cleared to shop again, I'll hit the craft store and buy some!  :biggrin:

Post Merge: April 01, 2020, 06:49:02 AM

I love factory curl :D

One pony I will never change from her factory curl is my Lickety Split. Her curly hair was part of the storyline my sister and I made up for her. She was the Perm Shoppe's #1 customer. Our original Lickety was lost in a flood, but I found another on Ebay (in what was supposed to be a bait lot!) not only with original curls, but still pink even!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on April 01, 2020, 07:12:19 AM
I don't get what all the hubbub about flutters are.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on April 01, 2020, 07:40:16 AM
An unpopular opinion I have is that I don't like ponies (or any toys, really) with factory-curled hair. Whoever thought it was a good idea to curl pony or doll hair and then give it to an unruly child....smh.  :shrug:

I have been about 50/50 on recurling my ponies' hair when restoring them. Some I am unsure if they actually came with curly hair or not, like Baby Surprise/Firefly, because I never see any that have it now, and their manes aren't very long, so I've just been styling them straight.

I recently bought my son a set of Mane Six brushables (mostly to steer him away from my G1s that I don't want him to destroy), and the curly haired ones are already trashed. I haven't given him Pinkie Pie yet, because I was going to try to wash and straighten her hair first in hopes of saving it; it's like they came with this factory glue(wax?) in their hair to make it look nice in the package, but man, it wreaks havoc the minute a child tries to play with it. Like, were these not meant to actually be played with?  :crazy:



As a collector I love having pre-styled toys on display but also it leads to me being very picky about the condition of certain toys when buying secondhand. If a pony's lost its factory curl, fine. But I collect some doll lines where styled hair is very common, like the Shopkins Shoppies line. Because almost all of them have styled hair, I only buy them either in box or from fellow adult collectors so their hair is still in good shape. Because if they've been played with by children (which are of course the target demographic) they're going to have really messy hair that I wouldn't be able to re-style correctly.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 01, 2020, 07:48:10 AM
I don't like the detatchable wings on the Magic Wing Ponies. The idea is so lazy and tacky. Either give them proper moulded wings, or don't give them any at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 01, 2020, 10:26:31 AM
I don't get what all the hubbub about flutters are.

I'm the opposite, I love the Flutter wings and if I had to choose, I'd say I'd rather have flutters with wings than the wingers (as much as I think they're lovely). But I love them most in their box where they are untouched, because they display so well like that. So maybe I like the flutters best not fluttering?

In any case I was glad that they decided not to try and strengthen the wings to make repros (a very unpopular decision) because for me the magic of the flutters is their ephemeral delicacy.

I also like the 2nd set better than the first set though.

I think this all relates back to an early pony memory of mine as a five year old going to choose a pony with the wall of flutter ponies in Carrefour that I ultimately chose Tropical Breeze from. It's probably my earliest choosing a pony myself memory, so them in boxes with UK artwork is super nostalgic for me.

On another unpopular note - people wax lyrical about the US packaging, but I think the UK packaging for 1986 and 1987 is the prettiest pony package art ever done. Not just because of the ponies but the whole concept.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 01, 2020, 10:58:58 AM
I don't get what all the hubbub about flutters are.

I'm the opposite, I love the Flutter wings and if I had to choose, I'd say I'd rather have flutters with wings than the wingers (as much as I think they're lovely). But I love them most in their box where they are untouched, because they display so well like that. So maybe I like the flutters best not fluttering?

In any case I was glad that they decided not to try and strengthen the wings to make repros (a very unpopular decision) because for me the magic of the flutters is their ephemeral delicacy.

I also like the 2nd set better than the first set though.

I think this all relates back to an early pony memory of mine as a five year old going to choose a pony with the wall of flutter ponies in Carrefour that I ultimately chose Tropical Breeze from. It's probably my earliest choosing a pony myself memory, so them in boxes with UK artwork is super nostalgic for me.

On another unpopular note - people wax lyrical about the US packaging, but I think the UK packaging for 1986 and 1987 is the prettiest pony package art ever done. Not just because of the ponies but the whole concept.
UK art is one of the reasons I want the UK leaflet wi the Mountain Boys in it so much!!! I have all the UK ones before that & a couple from just after, but not that one!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on April 01, 2020, 11:03:34 AM
I don't care if a pony has marker under their hooves. You can't see it from display.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on April 01, 2020, 11:49:08 AM


On another unpopular note - people wax lyrical about the US packaging, but I think the UK packaging for 1986 and 1987 is the prettiest pony package art ever done. Not just because of the ponies but the whole concept.

I love the Movie Star backcard art. :lovey:



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 01, 2020, 11:59:19 AM
I don't get what all the hubbub about flutters are.

I'm the opposite, I love the Flutter wings and if I had to choose, I'd say I'd rather have flutters with wings than the wingers (as much as I think they're lovely). But I love them most in their box where they are untouched, because they display so well like that. So maybe I like the flutters best not fluttering?

In any case I was glad that they decided not to try and strengthen the wings to make repros (a very unpopular decision) because for me the magic of the flutters is their ephemeral delicacy.

I also like the 2nd set better than the first set though.

I think this all relates back to an early pony memory of mine as a five year old going to choose a pony with the wall of flutter ponies in Carrefour that I ultimately chose Tropical Breeze from. It's probably my earliest choosing a pony myself memory, so them in boxes with UK artwork is super nostalgic for me.

On another unpopular note - people wax lyrical about the US packaging, but I think the UK packaging for 1986 and 1987 is the prettiest pony package art ever done. Not just because of the ponies but the whole concept.
UK art is one of the reasons I want the UK leaflet wi the Mountain Boys in it so much!!! I have all the UK ones before that & a couple from just after, but not that one!!!

The 1987 insert is harder to come by than some of the others, I think it was in print less time than the one before and the Strawberry Fair one that came right after and lasted for all of 1988. It's also hard to find UK packaging from 1987 compared with some other years, although there are some MOC examples. The TE ponies, for example - and Megan and Sundance. Which is a shame because they're so pretty. <3.

I also really love the Princess Pony boxes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: RLisa on April 01, 2020, 01:02:27 PM
I'm not that fond of the sea ponies, the pose is a bit stiff looking imo. The fancy mermaids look super cute though
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: freezestime on April 01, 2020, 10:05:06 PM
I'm not that fond of the sea ponies, the pose is a bit stiff looking imo. The fancy mermaids look super cute though

Same here!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 02, 2020, 12:32:45 AM
I don't get what all the hubbub about flutters are.

I'm the opposite, I love the Flutter wings and if I had to choose, I'd say I'd rather have flutters with wings than the wingers (as much as I think they're lovely). But I love them most in their box where they are untouched, because they display so well like that. So maybe I like the flutters best not fluttering?

In any case I was glad that they decided not to try and strengthen the wings to make repros (a very unpopular decision) because for me the magic of the flutters is their ephemeral delicacy.

I also like the 2nd set better than the first set though.

I think this all relates back to an early pony memory of mine as a five year old going to choose a pony with the wall of flutter ponies in Carrefour that I ultimately chose Tropical Breeze from. It's probably my earliest choosing a pony myself memory, so them in boxes with UK artwork is super nostalgic for me.

On another unpopular note - people wax lyrical about the US packaging, but I think the UK packaging for 1986 and 1987 is the prettiest pony package art ever done. Not just because of the ponies but the whole concept.
UK art is one of the reasons I want the UK leaflet wi the Mountain Boys in it so much!!! I have all the UK ones before that & a couple from just after, but not that one!!!

The 1987 insert is harder to come by than some of the others, I think it was in print less time than the one before and the Strawberry Fair one that came right after and lasted for all of 1988. It's also hard to find UK packaging from 1987 compared with some other years, although there are some MOC examples. The TE ponies, for example - and Megan and Sundance. Which is a shame because they're so pretty. <3.

I also really love the Princess Pony boxes.

Tell me about it!!! I'm getting to the point I'd actually PAY for scans!!! Same wi Twisty Tail's UK backcard, back AND front scans!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 02, 2020, 02:38:54 AM
I have both of those things - pretty sure TT is the UK card I have - and can try and scan them for you if you like. No money necessary. My scanner is a bit temperamental though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 02, 2020, 06:14:06 AM
I have both of those things - pretty sure TT is the UK card I have - and can try and scan them for you if you like. No money necessary. My scanner is a bit temperamental though.
Pretty please wi a cherry on top!!! Please scan the front of the backcard as well as there's a piccie there of Twisters too... :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyAmalthea on April 02, 2020, 06:31:56 AM
I don't care if a pony has marker under their hooves. You can't see it from display.

Me either. It actually makes me want it a little bit more because it means that some child once loved it enough to mark it as theirs, and I feel that that pony in particular needs a new loving home.  :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 02, 2020, 07:50:58 AM
I have both of those things - pretty sure TT is the UK card I have - and can try and scan them for you if you like. No money necessary. My scanner is a bit temperamental though.
Pretty please wi a cherry on top!!! Please scan the front of the backcard as well as there's a piccie there of Twisters too... :D

I will try to. The insert is easy to get to, I have a separate folder for those on my bookcase.

I need to remember which box or folder TT's card is in. I have a LOT of cards (over 300 including the MIP ponies). It may take me a few days to work out which draw/box/file/shelf it is stored in but I'll try and dig them out.

Caveat - I don't know what condition the card front is in until I check my folder. My spreadsheet doesn't include any notes about it.

Caveat II - I am not sure if the whole card will fit as one entity on my scanner, I have a feeling it's a wider-than-normal release card.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Squirtsquirt on April 02, 2020, 08:20:07 AM
I'm not that fond of the sea ponies, the pose is a bit stiff looking imo. The fancy mermaids look super cute though

Same here!

Me too...the sea ponies were a cute idea, but you just can't do anything with them!  I had a couple of the babies, but just didn't really get into them.  The Fancy Mermaid babies, though...those were cute!  Maybe because they were shimmery and had the scales...more like the mermaid fantasy so many little girls had.  The sea ponies would've been more fun if there was some way to actually have them "swim."  The shells for displaying the adults are nice, just not enough of a pull for me to get them.

Never mind the mold that grows in them if you do play with them in the tub. :(
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 02, 2020, 09:35:54 AM
I have both of those things - pretty sure TT is the UK card I have - and can try and scan them for you if you like. No money necessary. My scanner is a bit temperamental though.
Pretty please wi a cherry on top!!! Please scan the front of the backcard as well as there's a piccie there of Twisters too... :D

I will try to. The insert is easy to get to, I have a separate folder for those on my bookcase.

I need to remember which box or folder TT's card is in. I have a LOT of cards (over 300 including the MIP ponies). It may take me a few days to work out which draw/box/file/shelf it is stored in but I'll try and dig them out.

Caveat - I don't know what condition the card front is in until I check my folder. My spreadsheet doesn't include any notes about it.

Caveat II - I am not sure if the whole card will fit as one entity on my scanner, I have a feeling it's a wider-than-normal release card.
Leaflet still appreciated. Let me know re front part of backcard (most important part is top half)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on April 02, 2020, 05:52:23 PM
I don't care for pearly ponies. To me they look kind of sweaty. Especially don't like it if their eyes are pearlized.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Minty_Magic on April 03, 2020, 01:29:49 AM
I don’t really get the hype over fan made pony plushies. I think this is more relevant to the brony side of the fandom, but I can’t wrap my head around paying $400 or more for a stuffed animal of a one off character in a tv show. It sounds hypocritical as a toy collector, but for the price most of them are pretty average looking imo.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 03, 2020, 02:32:29 AM
I don’t really get the hype over fan made pony plushies. I think this is more relevant to the brony side of the fandom, but I can’t wrap my head around paying $400 or more for a stuffed animal of a one off character in a tv show. It sounds hypocritical as a toy collector, but for the price most of them are pretty average looking imo.
Pink Kittywinks can back me up on this, but I'm sure the Custom 3-foot Starcatcher I bought from her was somewhere between £100 & £125, perhaps towards the bigger number due to her wings. And she was 3-foot & fully stuffed wi brushable hair!!! So how the smooze are people selling smaller plushies for more than 3x that price???
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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Minty_Magic on April 03, 2020, 02:53:32 AM
I don’t really get the hype over fan made pony plushies. I think this is more relevant to the brony side of the fandom, but I can’t wrap my head around paying $400 or more for a stuffed animal of a one off character in a tv show. It sounds hypocritical as a toy collector, but for the price most of them are pretty average looking imo.
Pink Kittywinks can back me up on this, but I'm sure the Custom 3-foot Starcatcher I bought from her was somewhere between £100 & £125, perhaps towards the bigger number due to her wings. And she was 3-foot & fully stuffed wi brushable hair!!! So how the smooze are people selling smaller plushies for more than 3x that price???
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Oh, that plush is awesome!!!! Definitely more than a fair price for her! :) (I know I would have gladly spent that on a giant minty lol!) Pinkkittywinks always does awesome work! I’m definitely more so throwing shade at the brony fandom who thinks everything Hasbro puts out is bad and only super expensive custom made things are “worthy” of their collection. I’m all about custom art and paying artists fair prices, but their attitudes about it really rub me the wrong way. It’s hard to put into words haha!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 03, 2020, 02:55:44 AM
I don’t really get the hype over fan made pony plushies. I think this is more relevant to the brony side of the fandom, but I can’t wrap my head around paying $400 or more for a stuffed animal of a one off character in a tv show. It sounds hypocritical as a toy collector, but for the price most of them are pretty average looking imo.
Pink Kittywinks can back me up on this, but I'm sure the Custom 3-foot Starcatcher I bought from her was somewhere between £100 & £125, perhaps towards the bigger number due to her wings. And she was 3-foot & fully stuffed wi brushable hair!!! So how the smooze are people selling smaller plushies for more than 3x that price???
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Oh, that plush is awesome!!!! Definitely more than a fair price for her! :) (I know I would have gladly spent that on a giant minty lol!) Pinkkittywinks always does awesome work! I’m definitely more so throwing shade at the brony fandom who thinks everything Hasbro puts out is bad and only super expensive custom made things are “worthy” of their collection. I’m all about custom art and paying artists fair prices, but their attitudes about it really rub me the wrong way. It’s hard to put into words haha!
My point exactly!!! And when this thing is over maybe you can commission your own Minty of that size...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 03, 2020, 08:52:54 AM
I've seen that gorgeous Starcatcher before, but I didn't know who she belonged to! Now she's definitely worth every penny. :D But yeah I agree, I don't get dropping hundreds-thousands of dollars on plushies either. (Honestly, I don't understand paying that sort of money for most collectables ^^; I mean, I don't judge, people can do whatever they like with their money if it makes 'em happy, but I couldn't do it)

and I completely get what you mean about the "brony" plushies, Minty_Magic. I feel the same way, it is difficult to explain. I completely understand wanting something of your favourite char who never got any official merch (been there myself) but some of the prices those things go for... It's just hard for me to wrap my head around it all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 03, 2020, 10:05:56 AM
I've seen that gorgeous Starcatcher before, but I didn't know who she belonged to! Now she's definitely worth every penny. :D But yeah I agree, I don't get dropping hundreds-thousands of dollars on plushies either. (Honestly, I don't understand paying that sort of money for most collectables ^^; I mean, I don't judge, people can do whatever they like with their money if it makes 'em happy, but I couldn't do it)

and I completely get what you mean about the "brony" plushies, Minty_Magic. I feel the same way, it is difficult to explain. I completely understand wanting something of your favourite char who never got any official merch (been there myself) but some of the prices those things go for... It's just hard for me to wrap my head around it all.
I got her made for me by Kitty last year!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 03, 2020, 10:45:12 AM
Heh. I don't mind under the hoof initials. I mean I'd rather they NOT have done it, but I wouldn't turn a pony away just because.

I purchased a Toola Roola last month at the swapmeet with the former owner's name written right on her butt. My daughter called it a tramp stamp. XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 03, 2020, 10:45:47 AM
PKW is as ever a treasure to the community with the things she can produce.

I remember a plush Pinkie Pie selling to someone at ponycon a couple of years ago for around the £500 mark. I don't even understand how.

I have some small plushes of characters from an anime and they cost me around $45 each to have made although they are beautifully done. (Back in the days when the exchange rate wasn't hostile). I can understand £120ish for something as elaborate as that Starcatcher but £500 for a Pinkie Pie...? Yeah, it was a large Pinkie Pie but still...?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 03, 2020, 11:22:07 AM
PKW is as ever a treasure to the community with the things she can produce.

I remember a plush Pinkie Pie selling to someone at ponycon a couple of years ago for around the £500 mark. I don't even understand how.

I have some small plushes of characters from an anime and they cost me around $45 each to have made although they are beautifully done. (Back in the days when the exchange rate wasn't hostile). I can understand £120ish for something as elaborate as that Starcatcher but £500 for a Pinkie Pie...? Yeah, it was a large Pinkie Pie but still...?
Exactly this. If Customisers like PKW can price fairly, why are other fan-made Customs going for prices like THAT??? Mind boggles...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leikin on April 07, 2020, 07:49:11 AM
On another unpopular note - people wax lyrical about the US packaging, but I think the UK packaging for 1986 and 1987 is the prettiest pony package art ever done. Not just because of the ponies but the whole concept.

YES, the early UK art is much prettier. More colourfull!  Then again, I like the later US art better (when Europe got the cards with borders..)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 07, 2020, 08:03:44 AM
On another unpopular note - people wax lyrical about the US packaging, but I think the UK packaging for 1986 and 1987 is the prettiest pony package art ever done. Not just because of the ponies but the whole concept.

YES, the early UK art is much prettier. More colourfull!  Then again, I like the later US art better (when Europe got the cards with borders..)

I like the art on the border cards but it only focuses in on the one pony in the set, rather than all of them, which is a bit sad.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 07, 2020, 12:15:42 PM
On another unpopular note - people wax lyrical about the US packaging, but I think the UK packaging for 1986 and 1987 is the prettiest pony package art ever done. Not just because of the ponies but the whole concept.

YES, the early UK art is much prettier. More colourfull!  Then again, I like the later US art better (when Europe got the cards with borders..)

I like the art on the border cards but it only focuses in on the one pony in the set, rather than all of them, which is a bit sad.
Tell me about it!!! The only way to get art of the others is off the sides of boxes. If a certain set was sold on cards, you got a drawing of ONE & that was it!!! :sad: :sad: :sad:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 07, 2020, 03:51:48 PM
On another unpopular note - people wax lyrical about the US packaging, but I think the UK packaging for 1986 and 1987 is the prettiest pony package art ever done. Not just because of the ponies but the whole concept.

YES, the early UK art is much prettier. More colourfull!  Then again, I like the later US art better (when Europe got the cards with borders..)

I like the art on the border cards but it only focuses in on the one pony in the set, rather than all of them, which is a bit sad.
Tell me about it!!! The only way to get art of the others is off the sides of boxes. If a certain set was sold on cards, you got a drawing of ONE & that was it!!! :sad: :sad: :sad:

Yes. BUT those with boxes rather than cards (like the Glittering SHS Ponies) have very pretty art.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 07, 2020, 04:47:33 PM
On another unpopular note - people wax lyrical about the US packaging, but I think the UK packaging for 1986 and 1987 is the prettiest pony package art ever done. Not just because of the ponies but the whole concept.

YES, the early UK art is much prettier. More colourfull!  Then again, I like the later US art better (when Europe got the cards with borders..)

I like the art on the border cards but it only focuses in on the one pony in the set, rather than all of them, which is a bit sad.
Tell me about it!!! The only way to get art of the others is off the sides of boxes. If a certain set was sold on cards, you got a drawing of ONE & that was it!!! :sad: :sad: :sad:

Yes. BUT those with boxes rather than cards (like the Glittering SHS Ponies) have very pretty art.
Agreed!!! Can't get enough of side-cards for the later Ponies!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Queen Sophie on April 08, 2020, 05:27:08 PM
From what I’ve heard why the g2 ponies didn’t sell well it’s because of their body type, they didn’t like the long tall poses, but for me I really like it because I like tall elegant poses.
G2 is one of my favorite body types and g4 with the taller ponies
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 06, 2020, 09:02:28 AM
Despite being more Mane Suxx, I really like the Retro M6 Pack. The hair is leagues better.

I sometimes think the older fandom complains too much. Yes I include myself.

Post Merge: May 06, 2020, 09:04:45 AM

PKW is as ever a treasure to the community with the things she can produce.

I remember a plush Pinkie Pie selling to someone at ponycon a couple of years ago for around the £500 mark. I don't even understand how.

I have some small plushes of characters from an anime and they cost me around $45 each to have made although they are beautifully done. (Back in the days when the exchange rate wasn't hostile). I can understand £120ish for something as elaborate as that Starcatcher but £500 for a Pinkie Pie...? Yeah, it was a large Pinkie Pie but still...?
Exactly this. If Customisers like PKW can price fairly, why are other fan-made Customs going for prices like THAT??? Mind boggles...

It depends on how much work is done and the quality of the customizers work and what they think is fair to charge.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on May 06, 2020, 09:09:31 AM
I noticed some people don't like the Dolly Mix Ponies. I love them & think they're lovely for their size, which, note, is pretty small (I think only World's Smallest & maybe G1 Petites are smaller). I wish they'd made more than just the 20 G1s & the Core 7 G3s.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 06, 2020, 09:17:03 AM
I noticed some people don't like the Dolly Mix Ponies. I love them & think they're lovely for their size, which, note, is pretty small (I think only World's Smallest & maybe G1 Petites are smaller). I wish they'd made more than just the 20 G1s & the Core 7 G3s.

I don't have any of them, but they sure do look cute.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on May 06, 2020, 09:17:19 AM
Don’t like the Mimic Pose or Powder Pose, got a Princess Sparkle I’m trying to get rid off seeing as I’m making a custom of her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on May 06, 2020, 09:31:31 AM
I LOVE the Dollymixes!!! Cutest things ever, I so wish they'd made more. Can you imagine how adorable a G4 set would be?!

Also they really are fantastic quality for their size. I've seen bigger toys than that that have multitudes of flaws; Dollymixes are pretty perfect, apart from the odd factory error here and there (yellowtail Minty, earth pony Glory).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 06, 2020, 09:51:31 AM
I LOVE the Dollymixes!!! Cutest things ever, I so wish they'd made more. Can you imagine how adorable a G4 set would be?!

Also they really are fantastic quality for their size. I've seen bigger toys than that that have multitudes of flaws; Dollymixes are pretty perfect, apart from the odd factory error here and there (yellowtail Minty, earth pony Glory).

I would love to get Medley, Gusty and Mainsail.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 18, 2020, 07:36:57 AM
I get annoyed when people say that older pony fans weren't into or influenced by the cartoons. Please speak for yourself. Just because you were not big on them, and did not have your play influenced by them, does not automatically mean the same for every fan. I love them and my play was influenced by them, roughly half of my old toys were in the shows. All of us experienced MLP in our own ways.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 18, 2020, 08:07:28 AM
I get annoyed when people say that older pony fans weren't into or influenced by the cartoons. Please speak for yourself only. Just because YOU were not big on them, and did not have YOUR play influenced by them, does mean the same for others. I love them and my play was influenced by them.

Did someone say this?

I've never made a secret of the fact I'm a toy and comic person, but I've heard a lot of G1 fans talk about the cartoon. About as many have also said it didn't matter to them. I think it's more a case of not wanting to see older gens defined by the limited range of the G1 cartoon, not a matter of not being influenced by them.


This is not aimed at you, LAW, but it reminds me of some things on this line that bother me.

1. G1 does not haver only one canon, it has many different stories across different regions and mediums. That is the beauty of G1. I really get annoyed when people say (like in the Toys that Made us) that G1 had no canon. I grew up with the comics and that was absolutely a canon that lasted longer than any other G1 "canon". But there was also the G1 cartoon series and Tales, the backcard stories and space for a kid's own imagination as well. Sometimes those themes overlapped and sometimes they didn't. But for me G1 has the most rich and developed 'canon' because it carries so many possibilities, and is not dictated by one overreaching way in which people should view MLP.

ON a similar and maybe hypocritical note, I really don't like when people randomly flash in something from the comics as though it speaks for the whole of G1 overall. I'm talking about when people start talking about Majesty in G1 like her comic persona was universal, or the twinkle eye mine incident, and so on. These happened in a locally produced paper comic in the UK in the 1980s and may have gone to Europe as well. They do not define Majesty or the TE ponies for everyone, nor should they, and are often misrepresented anyway. I am all for people engaging with the comics, but actually engage with the comics, not with a social media post you saw that went viral.

Saw a YT video one time which talked about the TEs in terms of that comic story. It talked about it like it was accepted canon and misreferenced the comic number. Sigh.

On another note - I also like the dollymix, but only the G1 ones.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 18, 2020, 08:42:08 AM
I get annoyed when people say that older pony fans weren't into or influenced by the cartoons. Please speak for yourself only. Just because YOU were not big on them, and did not have YOUR play influenced by them, does mean the same for others. I love them and my play was influenced by them.

Did someone say this?

I've never made a secret of the fact I'm a toy and comic person, but I've heard a lot of G1 fans talk about the cartoon. About as many have also said it didn't matter to them. I think it's more a case of not wanting to see older gens defined by the limited range of the G1 cartoon, not a matter of not being influenced by them.


This is not aimed at you, LAW, but it reminds me of some things on this line that bother me.

1. G1 does not haver only one canon, it has many different stories across different regions and mediums. That is the beauty of G1. I really get annoyed when people say (like in the Toys that Made us) that G1 had no canon. I grew up with the comics and that was absolutely a canon that lasted longer than any other G1 "canon". But there was also the G1 cartoon series and Tales, the backcard stories and space for a kid's own imagination as well. Sometimes those themes overlapped and sometimes they didn't. But for me G1 has the most rich and developed 'canon' because it carries so many possibilities, and is not dictated by one overreaching way in which people should view MLP.

ON a similar and maybe hypocritical note, I really don't like when people randomly flash in something from the comics as though it speaks for the whole of G1 overall. I'm talking about when people start talking about Majesty in G1 like her comic persona was universal, or the twinkle eye mine incident, and so on. These happened in a locally produced paper comic in the UK in the 1980s and may have gone to Europe as well. They do not define Majesty or the TE ponies for everyone, nor should they, and are often misrepresented anyway. I am all for people engaging with the comics, but actually engage with the comics, not with a social media post you saw that went viral.

Saw a YT video one time which talked about the TEs in terms of that comic story. It talked about it like it was accepted canon and misreferenced the comic number. Sigh.

On another note - I also like the dollymix, but only the G1 ones.

I expanded my quote. ;)

I have heard people say this. But as I said, this is not everyone's experience and should not be discounted or brushed aside. I find it a tad hypocritical when a person is willing to cite their personal anecdotes as truth for most of, or all of the community's, but tells someone else, your anecdotes don't count.

And yes, I know it does not only have one piece of lore. At the time however, fans in different parts of the world only had whatever sources were available to them, regardless of whether they had cable or not. Names, shows, back cards, comics and toys differ.

To people who grew up in certain parts of the world Shady is Shady. To those in France she is Incognito. (Love that name. Lol)

To some Gusty is a nurse to the baby ponies. To others she is a rude, belligerent, hothead.

To my knowledge, UK/Europe got comics and toons. The US got toons.

Some parts of the world got Tales toys. Others didn't or at least we only got the Glow n Shows and Rock N Beats, which some of us may have only known from the cartoon in the 90s.

As far as G3 goes, my daughter and I had no idea there were any cartoons. Only toys and merch. Other little kids may have enacted personalities and partial stories based off them cause they had seen them.

I guess G2 was such a short lived blip in the US that I had no idea it even existed for years until I found the old Dream Valley site. Others owned and enjoyed them.

Hence why I think its not right to speak for the whole community.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on October 18, 2020, 09:25:13 AM
As someone who grew up with G3, I can't remember how I played with my ponies exactly. I had the books, I had all the videos, and I read all the backcards. I don't think anything ultimately influenced my play with the ponies. Ponies like Minty and such I think were influenced in some way, not that it matters, because I didn't play with those! I had a hefty collection and the "cast" of the story changed from time to time. Most of the ponies really do have nothing more than the to-do list on their backcard to go off of, personality-wise.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 18, 2020, 11:05:22 AM
@LAW - it's all true, but for the most part I would say 75% of discussion on G1 characters centres (when they have them) on how the TV show portrays them.

I've experienced the opposite of your frustration...I've been called out a few times for criticising the Quest of the Princess ponies. Honestly, from my UK perspective, there's a sense that the G1 TV show > the comics in people's minds, so I hadn't thought that it could be read the other way around.

From the UK perspective it can be very stifling to have this idea of mainstream = US, and that probably makes me personally more resistant to the influence of the G1 series. I don't like having ponies I grew up with called US ponies. It's wearing having to constantly use US and UK names but I don't want to give up the names I grew up with, or the stories either. I'm so tired of having people tell me how things must've been sold in the UK because of what happened in the US, too.

 So I probably have put distance between myself and the G1 TV series canon because I'm worried about the canon I grew up with being entirely lost or forgotten or just considered a 'novelty'. It often feels like a losing battle to preserve my childhood. While you're right that one person should not speak for the whole community, the fact remains that the US pony lore and pony release years and set names and pony names etc have spoken for the whole of pony for as long as I can remember, and keeping the rest alive is a lot harder work than it should be. There are absolutely no US exclusive ponies - and it would be nice for me personally to see more awareness of that across the community, especially in the ID sites that still persist in using US/other or the US year system for their formatting. And most of all in our very expansive pony lore, the existence of which "The Toys that Made Us" essentially denied by not looking beyond the US.

If my comments about the TV series have ever struck a nerve with you, though,  it wasn't meant that way :hug:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 18, 2020, 11:32:23 AM
As someone who grew up with G3, I can't remember how I played with my ponies exactly. I had the books, I had all the videos, and I read all the backcards. I don't think anything ultimately influenced my play with the ponies. Ponies like Minty and such I think were influenced in some way, not that it matters, because I didn't play with those! I had a hefty collection and the "cast" of the story changed from time to time. Most of the ponies really do have nothing more than the to-do list on their backcard to go off of, personality-wise.

And your experiences are totally valid as any other G3-er.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 18, 2020, 11:38:18 AM
I know that with G1 I was hugely influenced by the comics in terms of favourites and abilities and whatever, but never played a game using those characterisations. But I think they fed into the stories I wrote as a kid about Magic Star - at least the Fact File calling her the most magical pony in all ponyland. That definitely did. :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 18, 2020, 11:48:13 AM
@LAW - it's all true, but for the most part I would say 75% of discussion on G1 characters centres (when they have them) on how the TV show portrays them.

I've experienced the opposite of your frustration...I've been called out a few times for criticising the Quest of the Princess ponies. Honestly, from my UK perspective, there's a sense that the G1 TV show > the comics in people's minds, so I hadn't thought that it could be read the other way around.

From the UK perspective it can be very stifling to have this idea of mainstream = US, and that probably makes me personally more resistant to the influence of the G1 series. I don't like having ponies I grew up with called US ponies. It's wearing having to constantly use US and UK names but I don't want to give up the names I grew up with, or the stories either. I'm so tired of having people tell me how things must've been sold in the UK because of what happened in the US, too.

 So I probably have put distance between myself and the G1 TV series canon because I'm worried about the canon I grew up with being entirely lost or forgotten or just considered a 'novelty'. It often feels like a losing battle to preserve my childhood. While you're right that one person should not speak for the whole community, the fact remains that the US pony lore and pony release years and set names and pony names etc have spoken for the whole of pony for as long as I can remember, and keeping the rest alive is a lot harder work than it should be. There are absolutely no US exclusive ponies - and it would be nice for me personally to see more awareness of that across the community, especially in the ID sites that still persist in using US/other or the US year system for their formatting. And most of all in our very expansive pony lore, the existence of which "The Toys that Made Us" essentially denied by not looking beyond the US.

If my comments about the TV series have ever struck a nerve with you, though,  it wasn't meant that way :hug:


And why should you? You had what you had and your lore over there is just as special to you guys across the pond.

Its fascinating to know that there are comics and country exclusives and colorful variations and dragon toys.

These different experiences means that people in the community can share and compare. That's kinda cool.

I remember joining this model horse community, the majority of the members of which is from the UK and Europe more then the US. Great group, very fun. And I started learning about brands over there like Julips n stuff. I remember how excited they were when one of their own started making their own line called CopperFox.

If you'd have struck a nerve with me concerning that I would have said something. :hug:

And I'm guilty of tunnel vision myself sometimes.

 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 18, 2020, 02:46:56 PM
To be honest, the variety around the world is one of the big selling points for me on G1.

And frankly, part of it is that you guys are just better at holding together or caring about how ponies were over there.

Also, though, the US had some amazing backcard stories when we had very little, and I think some of our comic stories were drawn out from those concepts at times too.

On your note on Shady, she's a great example, because she was furry there and not here, but Incognito in France and Petit Ombre in French speaking Canada. And of course her personalities in the US animation and the UK comic are both drawn from the US backcard, but in completely opposite ways. The magic aspect the UK took on, and the uncertain aspect the US took on. So there's a really nice connecting thread linking them all together <3.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on October 18, 2020, 04:58:14 PM
I was a backcard is "canon" kid.  :lol:  I don't know why that is exactly but I suppose it was something to do with the actual pony being attached to it.  Though, I didn't make it a rule that all media had to match up and make complete sense.  There were a lot of stories running in my head that changed all the time.  I've always felt that because it's make-believe facts and logic don't have to apply.  Though I never liked it when ponies started acting too human and technically advanced.

I never got to follow the comics but I think I would have loved them.


I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion... but I'm not really worried about whether or not I'll like G5.  It doesn't matter to me at all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyAmalthea on October 18, 2020, 09:00:25 PM
As a US kid, I really wish we had had the comics. I was more of a reader than a TV watcher, and I think I really would have liked that. I did watch the show (in fact, I'm embarrassed to admit that I woke up early to watch it on weekdays in the summer), and enjoyed it (as a kid; I tried watching it with my son a few months back and was bored to tears!), but by that point I had been collecting and playing with ponies for years and I already had stories and personalities made up for them, and the show didn't change the way I played with them. In fact, it kind of annoyed me that some of the ways the show portrayed the ponies' personalities was exactly the opposite of the way I did. But...had I watched the show first, I probably would have patterned my ponies after the ones in the show...it's hard to make a new personality up out of thin air after seeing the way someone/pony acts. I mean, take the mane 6...you probably can't imagine making any of those ponies acting out of character now that you've seen them!

As for an unpopular opinion, I think Majesty is kind of an overrated pony. Her colors are boring, and there's really nothing special about her to the point that she got to be the one that came with the Dream Castle. I'm probably just saying this because my son just loves her and talks about her all the time and it gets old. He has a slight speech impediment and calls her 'Madness-ty', which I find secretly charming.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on October 18, 2020, 10:09:29 PM
As for an unpopular opinion, I think Majesty is kind of an overrated pony. Her colors are boring, and there's really nothing special about her to the point that she got to be the one that came with the Dream Castle. I'm probably just saying this because my son just loves her and talks about her all the time and it gets old. He has a slight speech impediment and calls her 'Madness-ty', which I find secretly charming.

I'm not super big on Majesty myself. I own her and she's fine, but I think I'd like her a lot more if she was in a different pose? I've never liked the Glory post all that much. And she seems to generally be of lower quality compared to most other G1s, being nearly constantly riddled with head body mismatches among other problems. It feels like they skimped on QC with her due to her coming in such a big playset. I like Majesty's color scheme, but I think she'd look better in a different pose, and I wish her quality control was better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 19, 2020, 03:50:22 AM
As for an unpopular opinion, I think Majesty is kind of an overrated pony. Her colors are boring, and there's really nothing special about her to the point that she got to be the one that came with the Dream Castle. I'm probably just saying this because my son just loves her and talks about her all the time and it gets old. He has a slight speech impediment and calls her 'Madness-ty', which I find secretly charming.

I'm not super big on Majesty myself. I own her and she's fine, but I think I'd like her a lot more if she was in a different pose? I've never liked the Glory post all that much. And she seems to generally be of lower quality compared to most other G1s, being nearly constantly riddled with head body mismatches among other problems. It feels like they skimped on QC with her due to her coming in such a big playset. I like Majesty's color scheme, but I think she'd look better in a different pose, and I wish her quality control was better.

I think she definitely has a deeper cultural resonance here because she was not only in a lot of stories but ran the pony club and sometimes the letters in the comics. So she became the cornerstone of the pony lore in the UK (which is deeply preferable to Megan, honestly). But I've never been obsessed with her either. I loved the Princesses. Adored them. But Majesty...well, she's fine. I liked her well enough and I did see her as the Queen. But she may have been a bit nuts (Madnessty indeed!) and most of the decisions were thus made by Princess Sapphire (who now I think of it was the wisest princess pony according to UK pony lore). :)

I don't know about having to follow the M6 characters. My special mascot Fluttershy 'Fluttsi' has a personality - it has nothing to do with Fluttershy though. ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyAmalthea on October 19, 2020, 08:16:47 AM
TheBeatlesPkmnFan42: Her pose doesn't bother me too much, I like the Glory pose well enough, but you are right about her quality! Both of mine had head/body mismatch that I was able to successfully sunfade, thankfully (not sure I've ever seen one without this problem, actually!), and her hair is thinner than most ponies. I guess they thought they could get away with skimping on her because she came in a box and no one could see her before purchasing, and people were going to buy the Dream Castle anyway.

Taffeta: I like the princesses better, too. I can see a good storyline being that Majesty was secretly a little bit off her rocker and the princesses try to keep it on the down-low by running the show behind the scenes while publicly putting her as the legal front of the empire. Oh to be a kid and make up these kinds of stories again! (I also do prefer Majesty over Megan; having a human girl in the mix never made much sense to me!)

The name Fluttsi is cute  :inlove:
I'm not a fan of Fluttershy's personality in the show (at least in the first 2 seasons; she seems more likeable in the sporadic later-seasons episodes I've watched), but I have her because I think she's a pretty pony. If I were more creative I'd make up a different personality for mine, but alas, my childhood storytelling abilities of my youth seemed to have flown the coop the day I turned into an adult  :pout:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 19, 2020, 09:30:08 AM
Well, Fluttsi (her full name is Flutter Magic) is the Cutie Mark Magic version I think. She was a gift from my sister for good luck when I was in Japan, so she kind of got her persona as the traveller, and also now the queen bee (butterfly?) of my G4 ponies. But Naynie chose her because she looks like the pegasus Rainbow Curl pony (in the UK called Rainbow Magic - hence Flutter Magic) xD. I have seen enough of FIM to know what character Fluttershy has, but eh. That's Fluttershy. Not Flutter Magic to me ;)

Yeah that was pretty much my DC/Majesty narrative. I had Majesty/DC and Princess Sapphire as a kid, and then second hand I had Aquamarine with 1 symbol (in the UK her persona was a daydreamer, so I assumed she'd left the other symbol somewhere and forgotten), so poor Sapphire ended up dealing with a slightly eccentric mother and absent-minded sister while trying to run ponyland ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on October 24, 2020, 11:25:25 AM
I don't see ponies without brushable hair as "real" MLP and I can't get excited for them.  :cloud:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 24, 2020, 12:19:38 PM
I don't see ponies without brushable hair as "real" MLP and I can't get excited for them.  :cloud:

I also feel like brushy hair is a key feature <3
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Safflower on October 24, 2020, 12:22:49 PM
I don't see ponies without brushable hair as "real" MLP and I can't get excited for them.  :cloud:

I also feel like brushy hair is a key feature <3
Definitely! I can't imagine MLP without actual hair. Being able to brush and style is a big part of collecting, personally :heart:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on October 24, 2020, 09:18:40 PM
I don't see ponies without brushable hair as "real" MLP and I can't get excited for them.  :cloud:

I also feel like brushy hair is a key feature <3
Definitely! I can't imagine MLP without actual hair. Being able to brush and style is a big part of collecting, personally :heart:
Meanwhile I sit here reading this wondering this opinion is unpopular??? When Ponies as hair-play toys has been a thing for so long every generation had a salon/ grooming parlour/ spa (sometimes all of them). Mind. Boggles.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 25, 2020, 01:40:23 AM
I don't see ponies without brushable hair as "real" MLP and I can't get excited for them.  :cloud:

I also feel like brushy hair is a key feature <3
Definitely! I can't imagine MLP without actual hair. Being able to brush and style is a big part of collecting, personally :heart:
Meanwhile I sit here reading this wondering this opinion is unpopular??? When Ponies as hair-play toys has been a thing for so long every generation had a salon/ grooming parlour/ spa (sometimes all of them). Mind. Boggles.

I don't think it's unpopular in our neck of the woods, but with all the funko and other figures G4 has put out, the emphasis has maybe not been as much on brushy as in previous gens.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on October 25, 2020, 02:16:30 AM
*whispers* I quite like moulded hair ponies  :blush:
You can take them out and about on adventures without messing their hair up! But brushable hair is fun too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 25, 2020, 08:10:28 AM
Definitely not unpopular.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyAmalthea on October 25, 2020, 08:27:32 AM
I don't see ponies without brushable hair as "real" MLP and I can't get excited for them.  :cloud:

Same! Not unpopular at all. Although I am kind of wishing they made some small molded-haired versions of G1 ponies I could make into Christmas tree ornaments...those Hallmark ones are cute, but so dang expensive.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on October 25, 2020, 08:53:41 AM
The only time I personally am ok with molded hair is on tiny ones like the G1 Petites or Ponyvilles. Tho them actually having some hair was always a bonus and one of my many postponed projects was giving Ponyvilles hair tails.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mana Minori on October 25, 2020, 09:07:43 AM
*whispers* I quite like moulded hair ponies  :blush:
You can take them out and about on adventures without messing their hair up! But brushable hair is fun too.
molded manes definitely make for better adventurous outings!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on October 25, 2020, 09:17:44 AM
*whispers* I quite like moulded hair ponies  :blush:
You can take them out and about on adventures without messing their hair up! But brushable hair is fun too.

I kind of like them for customs sometimes just because then I can give them whatever hair colors I want without being restricted by hair colors I have since I can mix whatever color I want with paint.  Dyes are a little trickier for me to get right and it doesn't always take the way I want it to. 

But there is something so beautifully soothing about running my fingers through the soft brushable hair of a pony that I'd be genuinely disappointed if they went with molded hair on everything.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 25, 2020, 09:40:54 AM
I don't mind the occasional moulded hair pony. I have a couple blindbag sized toys, a tiny book sweetie belle that i got to customize, and 2 loyal subjects ponies. I plan on getting some of the crossovers.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on October 25, 2020, 01:55:51 PM
I like molded hair for sidelines, like Ponyville and blind bags, but for the 'main' line of each gen - brushable hair all the way, I say. :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 26, 2020, 11:50:17 AM
*whispers* I quite like moulded hair ponies  :blush:
You can take them out and about on adventures without messing their hair up! But brushable hair is fun too.
molded manes definitely make for better adventurous outings!

That's what braids are for. :)
Also hairbrushes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on October 26, 2020, 05:43:59 PM
I would love molded-hair versions of ponies from the G1 cartoon!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 26, 2020, 08:05:51 PM
I would love molded-hair versions of ponies from the G1 cartoon!

Guess you could customize the crossovers. Plasmane is practically Shady anyway.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: northstar3184 on October 26, 2020, 08:11:24 PM
I would love molded-hair versions of ponies from the G1 cartoon!

I absolutely second this!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on October 26, 2020, 09:32:43 PM
I would love molded-hair versions of ponies from the G1 cartoon!

Guess you could customize the crossovers. Plasmane is practically Shady anyway.

I don't think it would work for Wind Whistler or Bow Tie.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 26, 2020, 09:54:19 PM
I would love molded-hair versions of ponies from the G1 cartoon!

Guess you could customize the crossovers. Plasmane is practically Shady anyway.

I don't think it would work for Wind Whistler or Bow Tie.

Obviously, unless said customizer is a talented sculptor.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on October 27, 2020, 05:55:16 PM
I would love molded-hair versions of ponies from the G1 cartoon!

Guess you could customize the crossovers. Plasmane is practically Shady anyway.

I don't think it would work for Wind Whistler or Bow Tie.

Obviously, unless said customizer is a talented sculptor.

So not exactly me. Not to mention I'd really love officially licensed high-quality figurines of Wind Whistler in a cool pose or of Bow Tie with her cute little hair bows.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 27, 2020, 06:41:21 PM
I would love molded-hair versions of ponies from the G1 cartoon!

Guess you could customize the crossovers. Plasmane is practically Shady anyway.

I don't think it would work for Wind Whistler or Bow Tie.

Obviously, unless said customizer is a talented sculptor.

So not exactly me. Not to mention I'd really love officially licensed high-quality figurines of Wind Whistler in a cool pose or of Bow Tie with her cute little hair bows.

Paint-wise other ponies can still be done.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on October 29, 2020, 05:52:10 PM
I would love molded-hair versions of ponies from the G1 cartoon!

Guess you could customize the crossovers. Plasmane is practically Shady anyway.

I don't think it would work for Wind Whistler or Bow Tie.

Obviously, unless said customizer is a talented sculptor.

So not exactly me. Not to mention I'd really love officially licensed high-quality figurines of Wind Whistler in a cool pose or of Bow Tie with her cute little hair bows.

Paint-wise other ponies can still be done.

Weren't all the crossovers earth ponies anyway?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 29, 2020, 06:31:57 PM
I would love molded-hair versions of ponies from the G1 cartoon!

Guess you could customize the crossovers. Plasmane is practically Shady anyway.

I don't think it would work for Wind Whistler or Bow Tie.

Obviously, unless said customizer is a talented sculptor.

So not exactly me. Not to mention I'd really love officially licensed high-quality figurines of Wind Whistler in a cool pose or of Bow Tie with her cute little hair bows.

Paint-wise other ponies can still be done.

Weren't all the crossovers earth ponies anyway?

Yes. We both know G1 doesn't lack for earth ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 26, 2020, 08:00:31 AM
Tales is part of G1, but if you think about it, its also sort of the first show driven part of the brand. At least here in the states since the GnS and Rock N Beats were the only thing we got merch-wise.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on November 26, 2020, 12:36:27 PM
I would love molded-hair versions of ponies from the G1 cartoon!

Something like the G1 porcelains would be cool to me. Just not made from porcelain.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: galaxy22586 on November 28, 2020, 09:16:42 AM
I hate the poses assigned to Flutter Ponies. :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 29, 2020, 04:35:14 PM
Tales is part of G1, but if you think about it, its also sort of the first show driven part of the brand. At least here in the states since the GnS and Rock N Beats were the only thing we got merch-wise.

From a timeline perspective, though, both the glows and the RnBs predate Tales by at least a year, maybe 2 in the US. I don't really think that the Tales series was made to market in the US, I really think it was made to market in Europe because of the emphasis on football/soccer which is very much more popular here (especially in the early 1990s). The toys and the series are therefore about the same in terms of their dates. But the other sets predate the series and were probably just pulled in to pad out the story because they had useful themes that could be incorporated. Tuneful & co certainly had completely different personas in the comic for about a year before Tales hit and they got reinvented for that purpose.

Plus "Glowing Magical" is about an inch away from "Glowing Magic", which is the UK name for the glows. If it was aimed at the US, that would be a weird set name to choose, especially being so close to accurate. They could've invented a whole new one if they thought Glow & Show wouldn't work - but they went for the UK name instead. I don't think that's accidental.

So yeah, I see Tales as toy driven, not show driven marketing. Its target audience just wasn't the US - it was aired there but it was designed to sell toys here. By the time Tales was ready to go, Pony in the US was done.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 29, 2020, 05:02:35 PM
I wish some of the Crossover Ponies had hair. Its fine moulded on some of them, like the Lite Brite Pony and Optimus Pony...but others yes please. I would have loved for GB pony, DnD Pack and Twister Pony to have lovely hair to brush and style. I imagine Power Ranger Pony would have tinsel.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 30, 2020, 09:46:02 AM
Not sure if I've posted this one before, but...

I don't mind "recycled names" - I never really did for a long time, as I get that they're all different ponies, with the same names (even if they reused the name "because it worked before" or whatever, like it was a marketable name), but also because I've tried naming my own ponies, and some of the names I came up with turned out to be the names of canon ponies.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if at least some of the recycled names were done by accident, because there's so many ponies in most of the generations, whoever was coming up with the names for the then current generation might not have known or at least forgotten that they already used that name (sometimes in the same generation!)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on November 30, 2020, 10:01:00 AM
I don't know why I remember Tales as being made to market in Europe, but I remember thinking that when I caught a part of it way back when.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 30, 2020, 10:24:42 AM
I think recycled names happened to save money on new trademarks >.>.

They didn't happen here very much though. Which annoys me more in a sense because (and this is a very unpopular opinion judging by the internet in general), in spite of the fact a lot of these ponies have official other names in English that can be used, they're mostly overridden by the need to use the recycled names for some reason.

...It doesn't work for all of them, some weren't sold here, but really, I don't understand why to save confusion there wouldn't be some kind of collector judgement to refer to the newest pony with a repeat name by their UK equivalent.

Even less comprehensible when it's people in the UK who grew up with those other names.

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 30, 2020, 10:44:48 AM
I always thought it was because Hasbro had a collective brain fart. And occasionally because they're lazy/or there's only so many names you can give to a cotton candy themed pony.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on November 30, 2020, 12:14:26 PM
I don't know why I remember Tales as being made to market in Europe, but I remember thinking that when I caught a part of it way back when.

Maybe because the characters that were made into toys were only sold in Europe?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on November 30, 2020, 01:28:08 PM
I don't know why I remember Tales as being made to market in Europe, but I remember thinking that when I caught a part of it way back when.

Maybe because the characters that were made into toys were only sold in Europe?  :shrug:
I wouldn't have known about the toys. No internet back then.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 30, 2020, 01:41:14 PM
I don't know why I remember Tales as being made to market in Europe, but I remember thinking that when I caught a part of it way back when.

Maybe because the characters that were made into toys were only sold in Europe?  :shrug:
I wouldn't have known about the toys. No internet back then.

I always think this is one of the fun discussion points of G1.
I first watched Tales when I was 13. That would've been..1995? It aired on a cable channel and my sister's friend taped it and loaned us the tapes one by one.

I always felt a disconnect with the older episodes because of the different names/existence of ponies that weren't in the UK. But I never felt it with Tales, because I had Bright Eyes as a kid, the comics also included Tales stories, and the context - with football and such, but also the name Glowing Magic(al) - was all in keeping with what I already knew from the later end of MLP.

Probably why I liked it better at the time. It did feel like it was targeted at us.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lilja on November 30, 2020, 02:23:25 PM
Quote from: MJNSEIFER link=topic=385476.msg1836497#msg1836497

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I don't mind "recycled names" - I never really did for a long time, as I get that they're all different ponies, with the same names (even if they reused the name "because it worked before" or whatever, like it was a marketable name), but also because I've tried naming my own ponies, and some of the names I came up with turned out to be the names of canon ponies.

I actually always liked that they reused certain names over the years. I felt it gave a sense of familiarity, like the older ponies hadn't been forgotten. Even back when I first got online in the late '90s/early '00s I thought the collector community made too much of a deal of it.

Even less comprehensible when it's people in the UK who grew up with those other names.

In Sweden we had the UK release for most of our ponies, so we had those names too. I remember one Swedish collector saying something along the lines of "I used to call this pony Sailaway when I was kid, but when I got online I learned her name was actually Hula Hula", completely unaware the pony was released under a different name here. As if "Sailaway" was just something she had dreamt up as a kid. (Very unlikely for a Swedish kid to come up with that name! :lol:)

My unpopular opinion would probably be that even though I grew up with the UK names (the ones I knew anyway), I still tend to prefer the US names for most of the part. XD (But the Tropical Ponies might be the one set I'll make an exception for.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessKittyDragon on January 09, 2021, 08:06:28 PM
I know this probably isn't an unpopular opinion but
Spoiler for tiny rant with very very mild nsfw topic
Spoiler
Bronies pretending to be the first male fans to be into MLP is infuriating to me :/
This is coming from someone who really got into MLP from G4 (even though I had some G3's as a kid)
Guys have been into MLP and collecting from the beginning and they managed to not be creepy!
Honestly I'd go as far as to say if G4's characters hadn't been sexualized as much as they have on the internet, most of those "bronies" wouldn't be fans at all! I genuinely think some bronies are only in the fandom for nsfw purposes (some women included!)

I wish I could have known the fandom before G4/Bronies, without the constant gross sexualization of ponies. Maybe I'm just put off from being exposed to really disgusting content at a young age

In short, non-brony guy collectors are super cool and I respect them a whole lot
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on February 14, 2021, 09:58:07 AM
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion, but it's one I feel quite strongly about. Much as I love the brushable hair of all the pony gens, I can't abide it in the Petites! I literally will only collect the Petite Ponies with moulded hair. How weird is that?  :blink:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 16, 2021, 09:48:45 AM
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion, but it's one I feel quite strongly about. Much as I love the brushable hair of all the pony gens, I can't abide it in the Petites! I literally will only collect the Petite Ponies with moulded hair. How weird is that?  :blink:

I agree brushy hair on the petites is a weird thing...xD. I don't hate it, but it is definitely not the most convenient pony hair to deal with, either in standing up ponies or trying to style it. It's sort of 'what's the point', although I admit it looks pretty on the fancier sets.

I do quite like the mad curls mind you. Hasbro didn't use them enough.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 16, 2021, 10:23:37 AM
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion, but it's one I feel quite strongly about. Much as I love the brushable hair of all the pony gens, I can't abide it in the Petites! I literally will only collect the Petite Ponies with moulded hair. How weird is that?  :blink:

I agree brushy hair on the petites is a weird thing...xD. I don't hate it, but it is definitely not the most convenient pony hair to deal with, either in standing up ponies or trying to style it. It's sort of 'what's the point', although I admit it looks pretty on the fancier sets.

I do quite like the mad curls mind you. Hasbro didn't use them enough.

Now we need a BnG or PP named, Mad Curls.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starrynights on February 16, 2021, 04:08:54 PM
It drives me crazy about how McDonald's ponies have a brushable mane or tail and then the other plastic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 16, 2021, 04:34:01 PM
It drives me crazy about how McDonald's ponies have a brushable mane or tail and then the other plastic.

Same. Its the reason I turned my nose up at the g3 ones.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 17, 2021, 01:02:41 AM
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion, but it's one I feel quite strongly about. Much as I love the brushable hair of all the pony gens, I can't abide it in the Petites! I literally will only collect the Petite Ponies with moulded hair. How weird is that?  :blink:

I agree brushy hair on the petites is a weird thing...xD. I don't hate it, but it is definitely not the most convenient pony hair to deal with, either in standing up ponies or trying to style it. It's sort of 'what's the point', although I admit it looks pretty on the fancier sets.

I do quite like the mad curls mind you. Hasbro didn't use them enough.

Now we need a BnG or PP named, Mad Curls.
Knowing Hasbro's current naming sense, it will probably be Curly Cutie. >.>
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 17, 2021, 07:52:18 AM
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion, but it's one I feel quite strongly about. Much as I love the brushable hair of all the pony gens, I can't abide it in the Petites! I literally will only collect the Petite Ponies with moulded hair. How weird is that?  :blink:

I agree brushy hair on the petites is a weird thing...xD. I don't hate it, but it is definitely not the most convenient pony hair to deal with, either in standing up ponies or trying to style it. It's sort of 'what's the point', although I admit it looks pretty on the fancier sets.

I do quite like the mad curls mind you. Hasbro didn't use them enough.

Now we need a BnG or PP named, Mad Curls.
Knowing Hasbro's current naming sense, it will probably be Curly Cutie. >.>

Ooh.  >_<
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on February 17, 2021, 07:15:29 PM
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion, but it's one I feel quite strongly about. Much as I love the brushable hair of all the pony gens, I can't abide it in the Petites! I literally will only collect the Petite Ponies with moulded hair. How weird is that?  :blink:

I agree brushy hair on the petites is a weird thing...xD. I don't hate it, but it is definitely not the most convenient pony hair to deal with, either in standing up ponies or trying to style it. It's sort of 'what's the point', although I admit it looks pretty on the fancier sets.

I do quite like the mad curls mind you. Hasbro didn't use them enough.

I wonder if there's a way to give spiral curls to the ones without them?

It drives me crazy about how McDonald's ponies have a brushable mane or tail and then the other plastic.

Same. Its the reason I turned my nose up at the g3 ones.

Has there ever even been a McD pony that had both mane and tail hair?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 17, 2021, 08:24:19 PM
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion, but it's one I feel quite strongly about. Much as I love the brushable hair of all the pony gens, I can't abide it in the Petites! I literally will only collect the Petite Ponies with moulded hair. How weird is that?  :blink:

I agree brushy hair on the petites is a weird thing...xD. I don't hate it, but it is definitely not the most convenient pony hair to deal with, either in standing up ponies or trying to style it. It's sort of 'what's the point', although I admit it looks pretty on the fancier sets.

I do quite like the mad curls mind you. Hasbro didn't use them enough.

I wonder if there's a way to give spiral curls to the ones without them?

It drives me crazy about how McDonald's ponies have a brushable mane or tail and then the other plastic.

Same. Its the reason I turned my nose up at the g3 ones.

Has there ever even been a McD pony that had both mane and tail hair?

Not to my knowledge
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shadowperla on February 22, 2021, 04:58:33 PM
Quote from: Wardah link=topic=385476.msg1844064#msg1844064
Has there ever even been a McD pony that had both mane and tail hair?
No, I think, but FAKIES of g3(?) Mcdonald pony I used to see. Very bad plastic, so never did buy any.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on February 22, 2021, 09:49:13 PM

Has there ever even been a McD pony that had both mane and tail hair?
Only the Euro G3 ones, & they're hard plastic & can't be rerooted
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Esbayne on February 25, 2021, 07:21:25 PM
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion, but it's one I feel quite strongly about. Much as I love the brushable hair of all the pony gens, I can't abide it in the Petites! I literally will only collect the Petite Ponies with moulded hair. How weird is that?  :blink:

I agree brushy hair on the petites is a weird thing...xD. I don't hate it, but it is definitely not the most convenient pony hair to deal with, either in standing up ponies or trying to style it. It's sort of 'what's the point', although I admit it looks pretty on the fancier sets.

I do quite like the mad curls mind you. Hasbro didn't use them enough.

Now we need a BnG or PP named, Mad Curls.
Knowing Hasbro's current naming sense, it will probably be Curly Cutie. >.>

Would love a take on the alt-ego superhero thing-

How about an alt-ego villain?

Curly Cutie by day, MAD CURLS by night!

Like a whole "Who's the amazing secret hero saving the city?" but secret villain destroying it...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 27, 2021, 01:40:48 PM
Sorry if I've already mentioned this one, but one of my possibly unpopular opinions is that I don't mind FiM having places named after real life places with horsey names - I understand people feeling that it removes the fantasy element, but for whatever reason I never minded.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaiyeh on February 27, 2021, 02:25:15 PM

Has there ever even been a McD pony that had both mane and tail hair?
Only the Euro G3 ones, & they're hard plastic & can't be rerooted

Euro g2 ones as well. :) they're very prone to hair rot though. and hard plastic, so can't reroot those either.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on February 27, 2021, 04:49:02 PM

Has there ever even been a McD pony that had both mane and tail hair?
Only the Euro G3 ones, & they're hard plastic & can't be rerooted

Euro g2 ones as well. :) they're very prone to hair rot though. and hard plastic, so can't reroot those either.
Kicks self because there's a spare McD's Silver Swirl on top of my monitor... :blush:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on February 28, 2021, 10:20:24 AM
I've never actually been a "horse girl" so it doesn't bother me when newer generations are super stylized and not very horse like. That's not to say I didn't like the earlier gens that are more horselike but horseyness has never been important for me to like MLP.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyAmalthea on February 28, 2021, 11:30:00 AM
Sorry if I've already mentioned this one, but one of my possibly unpopular opinions is that I don't mind FiM having places named after real life places with horsey names - I understand people feeling that it removes the fantasy element, but for whatever reason I never minded.

I don't mind that, either...but I have always liked word puns for the most part. I think it's fun!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on February 28, 2021, 02:27:05 PM
I might not collect any ponies from the next gen. I like the early gen 4 but not much of the later stuff.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on March 01, 2021, 03:02:37 AM
All pony toys felt "stylized" to me -- one way or another.

Short, chunky legs, shortened faces.. that's what separated a horse toy from g1 MLP. If I wanted a horse toy, then I would choose a horse toy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on March 01, 2021, 04:48:40 AM
I've never actually been a "horse girl" so it doesn't bother me when newer generations are super stylized and not very horse like. That's not to say I didn't like the earlier gens that are more horselike but horseyness has never been important for me to like MLP.

I'm not a "crazy cat lady" therefore I don't care if fictional cats look like elephants :lol:

Seriously now, you don't need to be a horse girl to prefer chubby pony looking dolls to cat- or doglike looking dolls. You don't even have to like real horses at all to be into MLP since they are talking fantasy creatures. After all, a lot of people hate kids but are somehow into kids toys *ahem* lots of childhaters in modern toy and cartoon fandoms *ahem*

It's just some people would rather have one design over the other because it reads more equine and ponies are equines. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on March 01, 2021, 04:55:18 AM
It's just some people would rather have one design over the other because it reads more equine and ponies are equines. Simple as that.

That sounds like the popular opinion of this forum :O
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on March 01, 2021, 04:56:37 AM
It's just some people would rather have one design over the other because it reads more equine and ponies are equines. Simple as that.

That sounds like the popular opinion of this forum :O

Yes.
And I was simply stating that it doesn't take one to be a "horse girl" to have this opinion :O
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: banditpony on March 01, 2021, 05:04:32 AM
It's just some people would rather have one design over the other because it reads more equine and ponies are equines. Simple as that.

That sounds like the popular opinion of this forum :O

Yes.
And I was simply stating that it doesn't take one to be a "horse girl" to have this opinion :O

Why? It's the popular opinion. Seems pushy.

eta -- just saying, Wardah stated that she doesn't feel a connection to horses, and that is a reason she doesn't mind if it's less equine. Really, that should stand without needing to say that people who don't have a connection to horses have the popular opinion of wanting their mlp to read more equine.

The opposite exists too -- I had a pony. So I'll call myself a horse girl (as a kid -- there's no way I want to deal with the maintenance of one, otherwise I'd consider owning one as an adult).  And I'm cool with stylized.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on March 01, 2021, 06:17:41 AM
*shrug*  it's a design... people are allowed to love it, hate, tolerate it...

I mean, Hasbro sort of gave me what I wanted in a new generation of MLP:  the slender G2 fantasy look and the bright and whimsical novelty of G3... but I wasn't expecting the magical twist of weiner dog balloon animal!  LOL 

it's cool... I have plenty of ponies to buy... or to customize...  XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on March 22, 2021, 01:46:11 PM
This seems to be a pretty unpopular-ish opinion here, but... I love the Mane Six...  :lookround:

I get how they can be a problem from a toyline perspective or (especially) a collectors perspective, but purely as characters, I love them and have a sentimental and nostalgic attachment to them.  They weren't always written how I feel they should have been, which is an opinion in itself, but for the most part I still feel attached to them as characters, and the friendship they have with each other, and always will.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Itcheeee on March 22, 2021, 05:13:51 PM
This seems to be a pretty unpopular-ish opinion here, but... I love the Mane Six...  :lookround:

I get how they can be a problem from a toyline perspective or (especially) a collectors perspective, but purely as characters, I love them and have a sentimental and nostalgic attachment to them.  They weren't always written how I feel they should have been, which is an opinion in itself, but for the most part I still feel attached to them as characters, and the friendship they have with each other, and always will.
I agree with you 100%! Applejack and Fluttershy are my favorites so it's always disappointing when they get left out in merchandise 90% of the time.
Both were sometimes portrayed badly, especially Fluttershy (At the Gala for example) so maybe that's why. :( I'm going to miss them and all the other G4 ponies so much. Many based on G1 and G3 ponies makes it more painful to see them just disappear.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on March 22, 2021, 10:33:21 PM
This seems to be a pretty unpopular-ish opinion here, but... I love the Mane Six...  :lookround:

I get how they can be a problem from a toyline perspective or (especially) a collectors perspective, but purely as characters, I love them and have a sentimental and nostalgic attachment to them.  They weren't always written how I feel they should have been, which is an opinion in itself, but for the most part I still feel attached to them as characters, and the friendship they have with each other, and always will.

I love the Mane 6! I just wish Hasbro hadn't released so many versions of them is all. I like them as characters and I also enjoy various third party releases of figures and plush of them, but I just think Hasbro themselves released them too much in the main toyline. I'm fine with the Mane 6 being all over third party products and merchandise, it was just way overboard as far as the main toyline was concerned. Just too many releases where many ended up looking similar to one another when they could have made some other FiM characters into toys, or had made more toy original ponies. So as much as I do complain about Hasbro putting toys of them out so much during G4's run, I still do like them! Especially Twilight and Fluttershy, they're my favorites! :lovey:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starrynights on March 23, 2021, 02:59:16 PM
It makes me sad when people hate on other gens or says MLP just needs to end because they don't like a certain gen.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on March 23, 2021, 10:42:50 PM
Starry yep!!!

MJN agreed. TS is my fave of the Six. It's just the oversaturation in the toyline which drove me bonkers, when there were so many background characters who never got a brushable
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 24, 2021, 08:40:15 AM
My unpopular opinion is that I don't think the animation is that important for defining MLP, their characters or whatever. It's admittedly harder to make that separation for G4, but I definitely feel like G1 and G3, the animation is an add-on and absolutely not integral or important to the line overall.

And with G4, speaking as someone who likes the toys but not really FIM, I'd have probably been happier with more toy variety, and fewer animated episodes, memes and the like.

I don't know why I am so apathetic towards older gen animation, except that as a kid it felt like it was full of mistakes because of the different names/ponies not sold here/whatever. I always preferred the comics. I dunno, I just feel like MLP is fine even when there isn't any animation. Which is why it always bothers me when G2 gets ignored simply because it lacks a cartoon.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on March 25, 2021, 08:35:27 AM
My unpopular opinion is that I don't think the animation is that important for defining MLP, their characters or whatever. It's admittedly harder to make that separation for G4, but I definitely feel like G1 and G3, the animation is an add-on and absolutely not integral or important to the line overall.

I don't think this would be considered an unpopular opinion among 99% of users on this particular board...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 25, 2021, 08:52:16 AM
My unpopular opinion is that I don't think the animation is that important for defining MLP, their characters or whatever. It's admittedly harder to make that separation for G4, but I definitely feel like G1 and G3, the animation is an add-on and absolutely not integral or important to the line overall.

I don't think this would be considered an unpopular opinion among 99% of users on this particular board...

I'm not sure. I think a lot more people reference/are sympathetic to the G1 animation when it comes to discussions, and certainly privelege the characterisation from those over other things like backcards.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on March 25, 2021, 10:46:44 AM
My unpopular opinion is that I don't think the animation is that important for defining MLP, their characters or whatever. It's admittedly harder to make that separation for G4, but I definitely feel like G1 and G3, the animation is an add-on and absolutely not integral or important to the line overall.

And with G4, speaking as someone who likes the toys but not really FIM, I'd have probably been happier with more toy variety, and fewer animated episodes, memes and the like.

I don't know why I am so apathetic towards older gen animation, except that as a kid it felt like it was full of mistakes because of the different names/ponies not sold here/whatever. I always preferred the comics. I dunno, I just feel like MLP is fine even when there isn't any animation. Which is why it always bothers me when G2 gets ignored simply because it lacks a cartoon.

I would like to say I agree but feel uncertain.  I really loved the first two G1 specials, but I agree there wasn't much characterization for most of the ponies and it's funny how many of them aren't even named in the first one but we all know who they were now.  As a newbie, Cotton Candy, Bubbles and Moondancer were a mystery to me.  I only learned about them later on their backcards.  It didn't matter by the 2nd special because I was already into ponies.  I think I just enjoyed seeing colorful ponies having adventures and they all seemed pretty interchangeable to me. 

I did not love any of the other cartoons while growing up.  I found their "characterizations" and animation annoying. The show might had been good for drawing new kids in and making them aware of ponies.  But for the ones already hooked, I don't think the shows were important. 

 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on March 25, 2021, 10:55:39 AM
I grew up in the 80s and had ponies as a kid but never knew there was a G1 TV show until I joined the Arena. I had seen RAMC as a kid but that was it. As far as backcards, I didn't pay attention to them, I guess? I named my ponies whatever I wanted to and made up their personalities myself. Granted, I didn't have a lot of ponies and they weren't my favorite toy line, but I still definitely *knew* My Little Pony without the movies and cartoon.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on March 25, 2021, 11:01:32 AM
My unpopular opinion is that I don't think the animation is that important for defining MLP, their characters or whatever. It's admittedly harder to make that separation for G4, but I definitely feel like G1 and G3, the animation is an add-on and absolutely not integral or important to the line overall.

I don't think this would be considered an unpopular opinion among 99% of users on this particular board...

I'm not sure. I think a lot more people reference/are sympathetic to the G1 animation when it comes to discussions, and certainly privelege the characterisation from those over other things like backcards.

If only...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 25, 2021, 11:26:10 AM
My unpopular opinion is that I don't think the animation is that important for defining MLP, their characters or whatever. It's admittedly harder to make that separation for G4, but I definitely feel like G1 and G3, the animation is an add-on and absolutely not integral or important to the line overall.

I don't think this would be considered an unpopular opinion among 99% of users on this particular board...

I'm not sure. I think a lot more people reference/are sympathetic to the G1 animation when it comes to discussions, and certainly privelege the characterisation from those over other things like backcards.

If only...

I think you're confusing what I mean, but I think that's probably my fault for how I phrased my posts.

I meant that in discussions about lore/story/character, the animation tends to be what people talk about more than other mediums like comics, backcards, storybooks, cassettes etc.

For me I'm the opposite. I don't like the characterisation of nearly every pony in the animated G1 series, as most of them have better/more distinct characters in the comic or on backcards. But it's a guarantee that more people are aware of the animation characters - which is fine, and why this is an unpopular opinion.

But I should have phrased it more clearly, as this is obviously a toy-centric forum where more people talk about the toys than the series overall.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on March 25, 2021, 01:31:03 PM
What I miss is people being... allowed? to make up their OWN personalities for ponies. Like, it used to be that if you wanted to write a story where maybe one pony uses her cartoon personality, but another is more based on her backcard, or UK comic, or whatever, or just made up from wholecloth... no one would bat an eye. But nowadays, especially with G4/FiM, it's all "alternate universe" this and "headcanon" that, you know? I dunno if this makes sense, or if I'm wording it right, but I miss when it was just an understood thing, that everyone had their own idea/version of Ponyland.

A bit off-topic, maybe, but it's what the convo reminded me of.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on March 25, 2021, 02:24:08 PM
What I miss is people being... allowed? to make up their OWN personalities for ponies. Like, it used to be that if you wanted to write a story where maybe one pony uses her cartoon personality, but another is more based on her backcard, or UK comic, or whatever, or just made up from wholecloth... no one would bat an eye. But nowadays, especially with G4/FiM, it's all "alternate universe" this and "headcanon" that, you know? I dunno if this makes sense, or if I'm wording it right, but I miss when it was just an understood thing, that everyone had their own idea/version of Ponyland.

A bit off-topic, maybe, but it's what the convo reminded me of.
Me too
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 25, 2021, 04:02:30 PM
What I miss is people being... allowed? to make up their OWN personalities for ponies. Like, it used to be that if you wanted to write a story where maybe one pony uses her cartoon personality, but another is more based on her backcard, or UK comic, or whatever, or just made up from wholecloth... no one would bat an eye. But nowadays, especially with G4/FiM, it's all "alternate universe" this and "headcanon" that, you know? I dunno if this makes sense, or if I'm wording it right, but I miss when it was just an understood thing, that everyone had their own idea/version of Ponyland.

A bit off-topic, maybe, but it's what the convo reminded me of.

I miss this too. I always loved that G1 had many canons and you could chop and change or ignore it completely.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on March 26, 2021, 02:50:59 AM
What I miss is people being... allowed? to make up their OWN personalities for ponies. Like, it used to be that if you wanted to write a story where maybe one pony uses her cartoon personality, but another is more based on her backcard, or UK comic, or whatever, or just made up from wholecloth... no one would bat an eye. But nowadays, especially with G4/FiM, it's all "alternate universe" this and "headcanon" that, you know? I dunno if this makes sense, or if I'm wording it right, but I miss when it was just an understood thing, that everyone had their own idea/version of Ponyland.

A bit off-topic, maybe, but it's what the convo reminded me of.

YES. I have always loved inventing my own personalities and worlds for toys!
Honestly, my definitive canon for G1 isn't the cartoon, or the comics, or the backcards....it's the stories my girlfriend wrote about her ponies when she was little! If the media disagrees with Kitti's pony world, it must be wrong :lol: We've had a lot of fun expanding on her childhood pony world to include the ponies from my collection, and of course our other toy collections past and present. To be honest, I think the freedom to invent is what playing is all about, whether you're a child or just a child at heart!
I hope there are kids out there now ignoring FiM and inventing their own pony worlds :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 26, 2021, 11:43:18 AM
I know what you mean. I have a whole bunch of stories I wrote when I was eight or nine about Magic Star, Cherries Jubilee and Paradise...

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on March 26, 2021, 03:50:15 PM
I hope there are kids out there now ignoring FiM and inventing their own pony worlds :)

Me too!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on March 26, 2021, 05:00:42 PM
I hope there are kids out there now ignoring FiM and inventing their own pony worlds :)

Me too!!!
Me three
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on March 26, 2021, 10:27:56 PM
I hope there are kids out there now ignoring FiM and inventing their own pony worlds :)

Me too!!!
Me three

Not sure about how the toys are, but "rewrites" and "nextgens" are huge on places like DeviantArt. A large portion of the community are kids grew up watching the show, at least. People love to make OCs and redesign existing characters, and make up new stories. It's nice to see.

Do you wish Twilight Sparkle was blue instead of purple and married Big Macintosh, who's green now? Do you want to follow the story of their daughter, who's friends with Celestia (now yellow) and Double Diamond's son? Weird fanfic is a part of most fandoms but at least it fits MLP well!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponyshoes on March 26, 2021, 10:58:06 PM
I used to really dislike chartreuse haired ponies. But actually I love it now on g1 surprise and I enjoy seeing a pony that has a stripe of it, I just like the brightness it adds :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 27, 2021, 08:36:46 PM
I hope there are kids out there now ignoring FiM and inventing their own pony worlds :)

Me too!!!

I hope so too
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on March 28, 2021, 10:51:35 AM
The Tootsie pose is one of the best G1 poses.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shadowperla on March 28, 2021, 05:16:55 PM
What I miss is people being... allowed? to make up their OWN personalities for ponies. Like, it used to be that if you wanted to write a story where maybe one pony uses her cartoon personality, but another is more based on her backcard, or UK comic, or whatever, or just made up from wholecloth... no one would bat an eye. But nowadays, especially with G4/FiM, it's all "alternate universe" this and "headcanon" that, you know? I dunno if this makes sense, or if I'm wording it right, but I miss when it was just an understood thing, that everyone had their own idea/version of Ponyland.

Aw, how I miss it, too :(

But it is because your own version is "play", and we cannot "play", fanfic is SERIOUS and ACTUAL WRITING *pouts*

I renamed half of my g4, I want to not have to explain :'(
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on March 29, 2021, 07:59:23 AM
Thank you to those who respond about the Mane Six.  I do understand about the problem with Hasbro overproducing them in the toyline - as much as I love them in the show, I wouldn't want multiple versions of them if I was collecting G4 toys, I'd want a variety of ponies.  Even if I was a kid who was a fan of the show, and was motivated to buy the toys for that reason, I doubt I'd want more than just one toy of the same character (unless the new toy did something really amazing, or looked better) - if anything I'd want the other characters (that I liked) so I could include them in my "episodes" when I played.

I'm going to miss them and all the other G4 ponies so much. Many based on G1 and G3 ponies makes it more painful to see them just disappear.
Well, if it helps... they're not exactly going anywhere - like the generations before them G4 will continue to exist no matter how many generations are made, through memory, rerun, fanon, toy playing, and whatever else there is.  The ponies you love from any generation will always be there for you when you need them.   :good:

What I miss is people being... allowed? to make up their OWN personalities for ponies. Like, it used to be that if you wanted to write a story where maybe one pony uses her cartoon personality, but another is more based on her backcard, or UK comic, or whatever, or just made up from wholecloth... no one would bat an eye. But nowadays, especially with G4/FiM, it's all "alternate universe" this and "headcanon" that, you know? I dunno if this makes sense, or if I'm wording it right, but I miss when it was just an understood thing, that everyone had their own idea/version of Ponyland.
I think for the most part we are, but I think I get what you're saying...  It's probably because I'm so used to the terms, but I ultimately take phrases like "headcanon" and "alternative universe" to be evidence that you still are "allowed" to create your own version of My Little Pony, but it may be because those terms are basically a second language to me now, in a sense.

It may also just be an easy way to point out that your story is not expected to follow canon to the letter.  It's like how when the fanseries I'm working on airs, it will be labelled as an "AU Sequel", it's not a sequel to FiM it's a sequel to a version of FiM were the things we (myself and my friend/writing partner) wanted to happen did, and didn't want to happen didn't... the only time canon events affect anything is if we liked said canon event better than what we already had planned (if we even did have anything planned.)

And in terms of simply playing with toys, I'm sure there's kids who do their own version of things, even if they're fans of FiM.  I'm speaking for myself, but whenever I played with toys from shows I watched, I did my own episodes with them, and sometimes they were completely different characters, even if I knew where they were from.  Having a set storyline/character personality provided by TV or wherever doesn't usually override imagination, so I'm sure there's at least some who are doing their own thing, even if they're using the show as a jumping off point, but there's probably those who are doing their whole "universe" from scratch too.

And in terms of my writing, I basically take what I like and what I can from different versions, providing it makes sense (e.g. if the comic version of a pony it too different to the cartoon version of a pony, it may not make sense to combine them, so I'd choose which version I want to portray) and we even add our own interpretations of ponies, when possible, and when desired.

So yeah... ultimately I think we can still create our own versions of things, be it playing or creating.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 29, 2021, 08:17:51 AM
What I miss is people being... allowed? to make up their OWN personalities for ponies. Like, it used to be that if you wanted to write a story where maybe one pony uses her cartoon personality, but another is more based on her backcard, or UK comic, or whatever, or just made up from wholecloth... no one would bat an eye. But nowadays, especially with G4/FiM, it's all "alternate universe" this and "headcanon" that, you know? I dunno if this makes sense, or if I'm wording it right, but I miss when it was just an understood thing, that everyone had their own idea/version of Ponyland.

Aw, how I miss it, too :(

But it is because your own version is "play", and we cannot "play", fanfic is SERIOUS and ACTUAL WRITING *pouts*

I renamed half of my g4, I want to not have to explain :'(

That's rich coming from them, the bloody hypocrites. Especially seeing how much they  scream and whine at the creators whenever the actual story doesn't go their way. They don't listen to older fans on what is official either.

Who gives a crap what they think or want? Play how you want. That's what the  block list is for. And you can leave the little you-know-whats to scream into the void like they deserve. Those sorts of people  are not worth your time Perla.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 29, 2021, 12:17:27 PM
If they are bronies who insist on using fan names not Hasbro names for certain ponies have absolutely no right to tell anyone else what to call their ponies. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the brony names or fan names for any ponies that Hasbro released under different names - until you start telling someone else in the same breath they're 'not allowed' to rename a pony because it's 'not canon'.

I don't write pony stories any more, haven't for years, but I feel like AU and so on...hrm. For me AU is a long way from the original storyline. Like when you take characters and put them into an entirely different universe. I know with one ff series I wrote a long time ago, it was a series with multiple continuities...so I took one as the basis and inserted bits from all of the others into the stories to create one big canon universe. That was technically 'AU' because it straddled canons - just like I guess crossing G1/G4 would be considered AU.

But I can understand why people don't want to use those terms with MLP, because you know, MLP has never had 'canon' in the same way as you expect a book or film or tv series to have. It's a new concept in G4 that never existed prior to that. So I can understand why people use those same terms - but also why some people feel they shouldn't have to, because MLP has always been a lot more liberal.

I hope that made sense.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 29, 2021, 12:21:20 PM
If they are bronies who insist on using fan names not Hasbro names for certain ponies have absolutely no right to tell anyone else what to call their ponies. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the brony names or fan names for any ponies that Hasbro released under different names - until you start telling someone else in the same breath they're 'not allowed' to rename a pony because it's 'not canon'.

I don't write pony stories any more, haven't for years, but I feel like AU and so on...hrm. For me AU is a long way from the original storyline. Like when you take characters and put them into an entirely different universe. I know with one ff series I wrote a long time ago, it was a series with multiple continuities...so I took one as the basis and inserted bits from all of the others into the stories to create one big canon universe. That was technically 'AU' because it straddled canons - just like I guess crossing G1/G4 would be considered AU.

But I can understand why people don't want to use those terms with MLP, because you know, MLP has never had 'canon' in the same way as you expect a book or film or tv series to have. It's a new concept in G4 that never existed prior to that. So I can understand why people use those same terms - but also why some people feel they shouldn't have to, because MLP has always been a lot more liberal.

I hope that made sense.

It did make sense.

 I was talking about stuff like,  when they argue about Tales being G2 when its G1. Or when they say that FIM is the first girl show to have adventure, which is obviously bull.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 29, 2021, 12:27:52 PM
If they are bronies who insist on using fan names not Hasbro names for certain ponies have absolutely no right to tell anyone else what to call their ponies. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the brony names or fan names for any ponies that Hasbro released under different names - until you start telling someone else in the same breath they're 'not allowed' to rename a pony because it's 'not canon'.

I don't write pony stories any more, haven't for years, but I feel like AU and so on...hrm. For me AU is a long way from the original storyline. Like when you take characters and put them into an entirely different universe. I know with one ff series I wrote a long time ago, it was a series with multiple continuities...so I took one as the basis and inserted bits from all of the others into the stories to create one big canon universe. That was technically 'AU' because it straddled canons - just like I guess crossing G1/G4 would be considered AU.

But I can understand why people don't want to use those terms with MLP, because you know, MLP has never had 'canon' in the same way as you expect a book or film or tv series to have. It's a new concept in G4 that never existed prior to that. So I can understand why people use those same terms - but also why some people feel they shouldn't have to, because MLP has always been a lot more liberal.

I hope that made sense.

It did make sense.

 I was talking about stuff like,  when they argue about Tales being G2 when its G1. Or when they say that FIM is the first girl show to have adventure, which is obviously bull.

...That's a whole other level of delusion. I feel I need extra fortification just to think about wading into it xD.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 29, 2021, 12:30:44 PM
If they are bronies who insist on using fan names not Hasbro names for certain ponies have absolutely no right to tell anyone else what to call their ponies. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the brony names or fan names for any ponies that Hasbro released under different names - until you start telling someone else in the same breath they're 'not allowed' to rename a pony because it's 'not canon'.

I don't write pony stories any more, haven't for years, but I feel like AU and so on...hrm. For me AU is a long way from the original storyline. Like when you take characters and put them into an entirely different universe. I know with one ff series I wrote a long time ago, it was a series with multiple continuities...so I took one as the basis and inserted bits from all of the others into the stories to create one big canon universe. That was technically 'AU' because it straddled canons - just like I guess crossing G1/G4 would be considered AU.

But I can understand why people don't want to use those terms with MLP, because you know, MLP has never had 'canon' in the same way as you expect a book or film or tv series to have. It's a new concept in G4 that never existed prior to that. So I can understand why people use those same terms - but also why some people feel they shouldn't have to, because MLP has always been a lot more liberal.

I hope that made sense.

It did make sense.

 I was talking about stuff like,  when they argue about Tales being G2 when its G1. Or when they say that FIM is the first girl show to have adventure, which is obviously bull.

...That's a whole other level of delusion. I feel I need extra fortification just to think about wading into it xD.

Whatsa matter Taf? The war mecha you constructed last year still not enough? :silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 29, 2021, 12:36:17 PM
If they are bronies who insist on using fan names not Hasbro names for certain ponies have absolutely no right to tell anyone else what to call their ponies. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the brony names or fan names for any ponies that Hasbro released under different names - until you start telling someone else in the same breath they're 'not allowed' to rename a pony because it's 'not canon'.

I don't write pony stories any more, haven't for years, but I feel like AU and so on...hrm. For me AU is a long way from the original storyline. Like when you take characters and put them into an entirely different universe. I know with one ff series I wrote a long time ago, it was a series with multiple continuities...so I took one as the basis and inserted bits from all of the others into the stories to create one big canon universe. That was technically 'AU' because it straddled canons - just like I guess crossing G1/G4 would be considered AU.

But I can understand why people don't want to use those terms with MLP, because you know, MLP has never had 'canon' in the same way as you expect a book or film or tv series to have. It's a new concept in G4 that never existed prior to that. So I can understand why people use those same terms - but also why some people feel they shouldn't have to, because MLP has always been a lot more liberal.

I hope that made sense.

It did make sense.

 I was talking about stuff like,  when they argue about Tales being G2 when its G1. Or when they say that FIM is the first girl show to have adventure, which is obviously bull.

...That's a whole other level of delusion. I feel I need extra fortification just to think about wading into it xD.

Whatsa matter Taf? The war mecha you constructed last year still not enough? :silly:
:devious: :silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on March 29, 2021, 01:01:04 PM
If they are bronies who insist on using fan names not Hasbro names for certain ponies have absolutely no right to tell anyone else what to call their ponies. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the brony names or fan names for any ponies that Hasbro released under different names - until you start telling someone else in the same breath they're 'not allowed' to rename a pony because it's 'not canon'.

I don't write pony stories any more, haven't for years, but I feel like AU and so on...hrm. For me AU is a long way from the original storyline. Like when you take characters and put them into an entirely different universe. I know with one ff series I wrote a long time ago, it was a series with multiple continuities...so I took one as the basis and inserted bits from all of the others into the stories to create one big canon universe. That was technically 'AU' because it straddled canons - just like I guess crossing G1/G4 would be considered AU.

But I can understand why people don't want to use those terms with MLP, because you know, MLP has never had 'canon' in the same way as you expect a book or film or tv series to have. It's a new concept in G4 that never existed prior to that. So I can understand why people use those same terms - but also why some people feel they shouldn't have to, because MLP has always been a lot more liberal.

I hope that made sense.

It did make sense.

 I was talking about stuff like,  when they argue about Tales being G2 when its G1. Or when they say that FIM is the first girl show to have adventure, which is obviously bull.

Well that's what the original creator of FIM had said and since most bronies didn't have first hand knowledge they took her at her word. And at the time children's TV had mostly deteriorated thanks to the Children's Television Act requiring networks to air a certain amount of "educational" television and for some reason (sexism yay) it was often "girl's" cartoons that were used to fill that niche. Since after all stereotypically girls are supposed to be all about being social and teaching social values such as friendship is totally educational. It's also why early FIM had those shoehorned in "Friendship Lessons".
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on March 29, 2021, 01:10:02 PM
It's not really a defence to say they couldn't be bothered to find out actual information about MLP before they barged into it. It's hard to have respect for people who just believe what someone else tells them without questioning it or trying to check it out for themselves. Old and cranky Taffeta coming to the fore now, but that's how fake news spreads - by people not asking their own questions and relying on someone else to pour information into their brains.

Probably also the reason why people can no longer even type two words into google to find out information on something because it's 'too much effort' to leave their social media feeds and memes for more than ten seconds at a time.

/cranky old person off.

Less said about Faust and her misconception of G1 the better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 29, 2021, 01:13:22 PM
If they are bronies who insist on using fan names not Hasbro names for certain ponies have absolutely no right to tell anyone else what to call their ponies. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the brony names or fan names for any ponies that Hasbro released under different names - until you start telling someone else in the same breath they're 'not allowed' to rename a pony because it's 'not canon'.

I don't write pony stories any more, haven't for years, but I feel like AU and so on...hrm. For me AU is a long way from the original storyline. Like when you take characters and put them into an entirely different universe. I know with one ff series I wrote a long time ago, it was a series with multiple continuities...so I took one as the basis and inserted bits from all of the others into the stories to create one big canon universe. That was technically 'AU' because it straddled canons - just like I guess crossing G1/G4 would be considered AU.

But I can understand why people don't want to use those terms with MLP, because you know, MLP has never had 'canon' in the same way as you expect a book or film or tv series to have. It's a new concept in G4 that never existed prior to that. So I can understand why people use those same terms - but also why some people feel they shouldn't have to, because MLP has always been a lot more liberal.

I hope that made sense.

It did make sense.

 I was talking about stuff like,  when they argue about Tales being G2 when its G1. Or when they say that FIM is the first girl show to have adventure, which is obviously bull.

Well that's what the original creator of FIM had said and since most bronies didn't have first hand knowledge they took her at her word. And at the time children's TV had mostly deteriorated thanks to the Children's Television Act requiring networks to air a certain amount of "educational" television and for some reason (sexism yay) it was often "girl's" cartoons that were used to fill that niche. Since after all stereotypically girls are supposed to be all about being social and teaching social values such as friendship is totally educational. It's also why early FIM had those shoehorned in "Friendship Lessons".

And it still wasn't true from the late 90s all the way up to the current 2000s. There have been adventuresome  girl's cartoons for years. Whether it's She-Ra, Jem, Sailor Moon, Power Puff Girls, Rainbowbrite,  Maggie and the Ferocious Beast, Kim Possible, or Legend of Korra.

There have likewise been plenty of kick-butt girls in action cartoons too. Avatar the Last Airbender, Captain Planet, Gargoyles,  Dino-saucers, every  comic cartoon, Transformers, and so many others I can't think of, or don't know about.

So either way, its a steaming load.


I should also add that there's nothing wrong with encouraging caring and social interpersonal relationships. That's pretty important stuff for us to start learning as early as possible, since we are an inter-social species.

In fact,  humanity could do with more of that, because our past and present shows that we've been pretty consistently terrible to each other.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on March 29, 2021, 07:06:36 PM
*watches the G1 movie* *brony voice* Huh? Where's Firefly and Twilight and Sparkler and Applejack? I thought they were the main characters of G1?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PurpleCheeseStick on March 29, 2021, 07:38:34 PM
*watches the G1 movie* *brony voice* Huh? Where's Firefly and Twilight and Sparkler and Applejack? I thought they were the main characters of G1?
:lmao:

Oh no it's too real  XD
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Queen Sophie on March 30, 2021, 03:38:23 PM
Bronies (of course not all of them) just tick me off! The things they say that aren’t true but are fact to them, like Pony Tales is g2! (Honestly the ones who hate other generations but think they know better about it than ones who grew up with it?)
What I really don’t understand is that there are ones out there who hate women but love a show that empowers girls that’s made by a woman?
Do they have any idea how hypocritical they are!?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on March 30, 2021, 05:04:30 PM
What I really don’t understand is that there are ones out there who hate women but love a show that empowers girls that’s made by a woman?

I remember bronies whining that feminist propaganda is ruining FiM.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 04, 2021, 11:50:33 AM
(Sorry for the late reply! Had computer troubles this week so I'm still catching up on threads)

But I can understand why people don't want to use those terms with MLP, because you know, MLP has never had 'canon' in the same way as you expect a book or film or tv series to have. It's a new concept in G4 that never existed prior to that. So I can understand why people use those same terms - but also why some people feel they shouldn't have to, because MLP has always been a lot more liberal.

Yeah pretty much - it's not the terms I have a problem with, they just... I dunno, feel weird when used for MLP, to me. Like, for MLP in general, not something specifically based on one of the TV shows, if that makes sense. I guess it's really just me being nitpicky over semantics, of course we can still do whatever we want, it's not like there's suddenly a law saying we can't, but, idk, it just feels like something changed a bit when G4 came into place.

Aw, how I miss it, too :(

But it is because your own version is "play", and we cannot "play", fanfic is SERIOUS and ACTUAL WRITING *pouts*

I renamed half of my g4, I want to not have to explain :'(

Yesss this is a great way of explaining it!! this is EXACTLY what I was trying to get across, thank you :D

Probably also the reason why people can no longer even type two words into google to find out information on something because it's 'too much effort' to leave their social media feeds and memes for more than ten seconds at a time.

Ooooh, don't even get me started on that >_< The *amount* of times I've had to explain the same thing, over and over, on another community I'm in, just because people on there are too dang lazy to run a quick search, or even SCROLL DOWN THE PAGE to see if anyone else has made the exact same thread the other day... ahh, like I said, don't get me started or I'll go off on an off-topic rant :P

*watches the G1 movie* *brony voice* Huh? Where's Firefly and Twilight and Sparkler and Applejack? I thought they were the main characters of G1?

:silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 05, 2021, 01:14:37 PM
@Carrehz - I relate on the extra thread spam. Noticed that in another forum/site I post on...and also people complaining they don't know how to do stuff even though it was explained in a news post - apparently expecting members to read words is too much of an imposition and the mods should be able to telepathically insert information into people's brains or something. Gah. Old person cranky rant end.

I think something did change with G4. A lot of things did, but in a way G4 coincided with the 'new' fanfic generation, if that makes sense. I mean, since I started writing fanfic for various anime etc in...what, 2006? 2007? All kinds of new genres/terms/concepts/tropes/styles/etc have sprung up, with the internet growing and having different kinds of way to express stuff. And I feel like G4 jumped in on the back of that, both generationally and in terms of tech timing. I don't suppose it's just about G4 but the whole context of what fanfic is becoming...?

And G4 did give MLP a 'canon', but it doesn't mean that pre-G4 will ever be governed by those rules unless someone writing wants to use a particular setting. I remember when I was 16 or 17 I had this whole long concept about the evolution of ponyland, with how different species and characters came about and it was loosely inspired by the Golden Horseshoes concept with Mimic descended from an ancient unicorn...also the idea of MLP Tales being set in the future of the G1 animation type world. But it wasn't as though anything I wrote had even the vaguest connection to these actual settings. I have no idea what that would come under now in terms of 'canon', and frankly, I don't care all that much. xD.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 05, 2021, 01:19:24 PM
Y-you mean mods don't have the power to telepathically insert stuff into people's heads? I'm shocked I tell you!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shadowperla on April 09, 2021, 07:36:33 PM
Yesss this is a great way of explaining it!! this is EXACTLY what I was trying to get across, thank you :D

You are welcome ^^

My G4 Rainbow Dash was renamed, so my friend went and named hers -not very child-friendly, but, like, Rainbow Booze XD
===

On-topic: instead of doing modern doodads, MLP should do like that old comic and have prehistory/varying eras of pony. If you go too modern, you ruin the fun immediately - you gotta be "older". Someday, shows achieved that by production time lenght, but now? You see a meme, you see it in show next week T_T They gotta prohibit use of memes newer than Nyan Cat.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Snapdragon on April 10, 2021, 12:41:33 AM
What I miss is people being... allowed? to make up their OWN personalities for ponies. Like, it used to be that if you wanted to write a story where maybe one pony uses her cartoon personality, but another is more based on her backcard, or UK comic, or whatever, or just made up from wholecloth... no one would bat an eye. But nowadays, especially with G4/FiM, it's all "alternate universe" this and "headcanon" that, you know? I dunno if this makes sense, or if I'm wording it right, but I miss when it was just an understood thing, that everyone had their own idea/version of Ponyland.

Aw, how I miss it, too :(

But it is because your own version is "play", and we cannot "play", fanfic is SERIOUS and ACTUAL WRITING *pouts*

I renamed half of my g4, I want to not have to explain :'(

Okay this is slightly off-topic to reference a post made like a week ago, BUT... I wonder how kids play with the ponies now! Is someone out there renaming Twilight Sparkle "Stars"? Rainbow Dash becomes "Cloud" or "Rainbow"? I mean, of course many kids will reenact the episodes they see, but there's many more kids who won't really see the show, or receive the toys secondhand, and create their own worlds... I can't wait to see the threads from modern kids, when they grow up and remember the fun playtime they had with "Balloons" and "Diamond"! :heart:

Oh uh unpopular opinions?! I've voiced so many, I'm not sure I have any left! :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MOTOSTOKES on April 12, 2021, 07:33:18 AM
a lot of people (bronies) seem to hate the clipart on toy boxes and posters and such because it isn't "show accurate", I actually love it though!! it sorta reminds me of lisa franks aesthetic and the like. I also ADORE red ponies like baby countdown or g3 applejack, theyre beautiful imo
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Midnight Dream on April 12, 2021, 09:10:21 AM
My opinion might not be as unpopular, but here I go!

I personally don't hate G4 (I don't hate any of the generations, I think they all have some good parts and bad.), but I'm just tired of it. G4 has been getting way to much attention!

G4 toys are my least favorite. They are just to small and boring. Look how much variety there was in previous generations, different poses and stuff, and now it's just (mostly) the same six characters over and over again.

When it comes to FIM, I don't think it's bad on it's own, I would actually consider it one of the best kid shows of 2010's.
Even though when I look back at it has some dumb episodes and the friendship lessons and befriending everyone philosophy is kinda annoying, I still think that overall it's an okey series
.
 My problem with FIM is that I just don't like it as MLP series. I always liked how My Little Pony was whimsical fantasy series where everything could happen. There could be magic, adventures, new places and beings they would meet. There was this sense of wonder. It was this fantasy dream world that was pretty much detached from reality, and didn't needed to be particulary realistic. Now look at FIM, It basically anachronistic ponified earth. Ponified real world places, history and people, popculture references, over the top jokes - it just lacks the charm that the other generations had.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on April 12, 2021, 10:50:59 AM
I like to think that Earth Ponies and Pegasis Ponies are just as magical as Unicorns, just in different ways.  I also view them as kind of like fairies, completely outside of time and anything resembling reality.  They never grow old and never die and they really have no idea how old they are.  They are not humans in pony form and have the innocence and kindness of real ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 12, 2021, 01:27:44 PM
In the UK comics it was perfectly normal for earth and pegasus ponies to be as magical or more so than unicorns. Magic Star is the most magical pony of all of them according to the fact file, and she's an earth pony. It's only the G1 animation that pigeonholes magic to unicorns as far as I know. Probably even the US backcards include magic for the other species, because a lot of the UK comic concepts, at least early on, came from US card stories too.

I never liked Megan nor the tie-in to the human world that the animation went in for so much. I liked much more the idea of ponyland alongside all these other lands inhabited by pixies and sprites and so on.

I think Midnight Dream's point is interesting as well - appreciating FIM but not as a pony series.

I admit, I don't like FIM really, but it's the first time I've heard someone talk about it like that.

The idea that the G4 pony line was boring is definitely not an unpopular opinion ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: serena-hime on April 12, 2021, 05:03:36 PM

I never liked Megan nor the tie-in to the human world that the animation went in for so much. I liked much more the idea of ponyland alongside all these other lands inhabited by pixies and sprites and so on.

 
I'm glad it's not just me! Every time I watch the G1 cartoons I'm so excited...until Megan and her siblings show up lol, it really kills the vibe.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyAmalthea on April 12, 2021, 05:45:19 PM
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion or not, but I don't like the Megan doll. I had her, wanted her in fact as a child after seeing her character in the movie; I even saved up my horseshoe points for the SS mail order one, but then once she showed up I thought the doll itself was kind of ugly. Would have liked her more if they had used a prettier doll.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 13, 2021, 04:12:40 PM
I remember deliberately blanking Sundance when working out what ponies I wanted because she came with Megan. I don't even know why I hated her so much. Maybe I was jealous she got to hang out with the ponies. Or maybe it was an extension of the passionate hatred I had as a kid for blond haired blue eyed dolls, because that was literally all there were in stores in the UK in the 1980s. (I was blond haired and blue eyed, but I never wanted toys that looked like me. Hence, well, ponies. I digress).

But although she made occasional appearances and her name appeared sometimes on mail in response letters or the comic letter pages etc, Megan hardly ever appeared in the comic. All the humanoid characters in the comics belonged in the world that Ponyland was a part of. Characters like Wizard Wantall and the Weather Witch were both humanoid, but not 'human' in that they didn't come from our world.

That suited me better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponyprincess2021 on April 13, 2021, 04:33:34 PM
Not sure if these are unpopular opinions but I really don’t like g3 that much I try to get into it but I can’t they look like cheaper g1 ponies some are okay I guess I just don’t like their bodies and poses also I love g3.5 the first time I saw them I thought they were the most adorable thing ever also I feel like every new toy for every generation looks cheaper and cheaper and I really dislike the g5 style so far the toys look even worse than previous generations the 3D style looks cute but I just can’t get used to the 2d style at all they look so soulless and have zero personality and really g5 doesn’t even feel like my little pony they look more Disney like also I love the bow tie pose
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Queen Sophie on April 14, 2021, 09:50:42 AM
I feel ya there with g5, I’m fine with the 3d models but the 2d art isn’t my favorite style.
I was also very disappointed when they changed the style because I really liked the leak designs in 2017! (I’m thinking of making a custom to make it look like the design)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponyprincess2021 on April 14, 2021, 11:11:25 AM
I never saw the 2017 leaks I just thought that people were making fake ones for g5
Also I think they made the artist draw that way because there’s a video showing what their art actually looks like and it was hard to believe they were the same the artist could’ve definitely drew something better
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Annichen on April 21, 2021, 06:43:33 AM
I don't consider non-G1 as MLP  :lookround:  I love my 80s stuff !


Yessss...come on, hate me  :shocked:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Heelys on April 21, 2021, 07:14:42 AM
I don’t care about collectible integrity. I don’t care if you’ve broken a pony’s seal and replaced the washer and filled it up with googly eyes or whatever. I prefer a cleaned pony to an authentic, untampered one.

Of course I have a pretty small collection and am more of a customizer anyway, soooo
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponyprincess2021 on April 21, 2021, 08:09:31 AM
I don't consider non-G1 as MLP  :lookround:  I love my 80s stuff !


Yessss...come on, hate me  :shocked:
I can kind of understand since g1 was the original I'm not sure if my pretty pony counts as an actual generation
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 21, 2021, 10:34:10 AM
I don’t care about collectible integrity. I don’t care if you’ve broken a pony’s seal and replaced the washer and filled it up with googly eyes or whatever. I prefer a cleaned pony to an authentic, untampered one.

Of course I have a pretty small collection and am more of a customizer anyway, soooo

Better googly eyes,  then animal poo and pot.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on April 22, 2021, 12:28:04 PM
I don't consider non-G1 as MLP  :lookround:  I love my 80s stuff !

To me G1 will always be the best but I also like G2 and G3.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on April 24, 2021, 05:45:57 AM
I don’t care about collectible integrity. I don’t care if you’ve broken a pony’s seal and replaced the washer and filled it up with googly eyes or whatever. I prefer a cleaned pony to an authentic, untampered one.

Of course I have a pretty small collection and am more of a customizer anyway, soooo

I would definitely rather have a clean and rehaired pony with touched up eyes over a dingy one with frizzed out hair and eye rubs.

Being filled with googly eyes seems like a good bonus tbh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 25, 2021, 10:17:42 AM
I guess I have the opposite opinion. I think this is an unpopular opinion these days though...

But I feel like it matters when you take something out of the community, or permanently alter it in some way that could impact someone else down the line.

I've been here so long that I've seen so many people say, it's my personal item, I'll never sell it so it doesn't matter. ANd most all of those people did sell their ponies and did leave.

So for me I'll always be on the side of 'do no harm'.

Of course, a rusty or mouldy pony is not harmed by being decapitated and cleaned. I just don't believe in doing damage to ponies that don't need it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 25, 2021, 10:33:13 AM
I guess I have the opposite opinion. I think this is an unpopular opinion these days though...

But I feel like it matters when you take something out of the community, or permanently alter it in some way that could impact someone else down the line.

I've been here so long that I've seen so many people say, it's my personal item, I'll never sell it so it doesn't matter. ANd most all of those people did sell their ponies and did leave.

So for me I'll always be on the side of 'do no harm'.

Of course, a rusty or mouldy pony is not harmed by being decapitated and cleaned. I just don't believe in doing damage to ponies that don't need it.
Off with their heads!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 25, 2021, 10:34:26 AM
I guess I have the opposite opinion. I think this is an unpopular opinion these days though...

But I feel like it matters when you take something out of the community, or permanently alter it in some way that could impact someone else down the line.

I've been here so long that I've seen so many people say, it's my personal item, I'll never sell it so it doesn't matter. ANd most all of those people did sell their ponies and did leave.

So for me I'll always be on the side of 'do no harm'.

Of course, a rusty or mouldy pony is not harmed by being decapitated and cleaned. I just don't believe in doing damage to ponies that don't need it.
Off with their heads!

Who let the Queen of Hearts loose?!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 25, 2021, 10:35:20 AM
I guess I have the opposite opinion. I think this is an unpopular opinion these days though...

But I feel like it matters when you take something out of the community, or permanently alter it in some way that could impact someone else down the line.

I've been here so long that I've seen so many people say, it's my personal item, I'll never sell it so it doesn't matter. ANd most all of those people did sell their ponies and did leave.

So for me I'll always be on the side of 'do no harm'.

Of course, a rusty or mouldy pony is not harmed by being decapitated and cleaned. I just don't believe in doing damage to ponies that don't need it.
Off with their heads!

Who let the Queen of Hearts loose?!

Tirek. He wanted those pony heads squeaky clean.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 25, 2021, 10:40:38 AM
I guess I have the opposite opinion. I think this is an unpopular opinion these days though...

But I feel like it matters when you take something out of the community, or permanently alter it in some way that could impact someone else down the line.

I've been here so long that I've seen so many people say, it's my personal item, I'll never sell it so it doesn't matter. ANd most all of those people did sell their ponies and did leave.

So for me I'll always be on the side of 'do no harm'.

Of course, a rusty or mouldy pony is not harmed by being decapitated and cleaned. I just don't believe in doing damage to ponies that don't need it.
Off with their heads!

Who let the Queen of Hearts loose?!

Tirek. He wanted those pony heads squeaky clean.

AU headcanon accepted.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on April 25, 2021, 10:44:12 AM
I guess I have the opposite opinion. I think this is an unpopular opinion these days though...

But I feel like it matters when you take something out of the community, or permanently alter it in some way that could impact someone else down the line.

I've been here so long that I've seen so many people say, it's my personal item, I'll never sell it so it doesn't matter. ANd most all of those people did sell their ponies and did leave.

So for me I'll always be on the side of 'do no harm'.

Of course, a rusty or mouldy pony is not harmed by being decapitated and cleaned. I just don't believe in doing damage to ponies that don't need it.

Even if it does end up being sold the owner still deserves to enjoy it while it is in their possession. If someone doesn't want to constantly be looking at a pony with a gash across it's design and they can't afford to replace it with a mint one then they should be able to fix it. There will always be plenty of collectors for whom "looks original" is good enough and sometimes even preferable to "actually original". Just wish people would label their work, maybe even put a paper inside with what they did.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on April 25, 2021, 10:44:58 AM
I guess I have the opposite opinion. I think this is an unpopular opinion these days though...

But I feel like it matters when you take something out of the community, or permanently alter it in some way that could impact someone else down the line.

But customizers and restorers are PART of the community. We aren't segregated to a corner. What we do is just as valuable as those who keep ponies MOC... sometimes, more. I know artists that can sell their customs for $200+ and they do sell. Why would someone keep a mangy G1 worth 3 bucks when they can turn it into a 200 dollar profit AND a piece of art that's appreciated by someone also in the community.

I have more Hasbro ponies than customs, but not by much. I can tell you for certain that I've spent more on the custom part of my collection than the rest of it. I'm still collecting MLP. I'm still in the community as a collector and customizer/restorer.

As far as impacting someone "down the line" - It's on the buyer to know what they are buying.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 25, 2021, 10:49:54 AM
Reminding people that this is the Unpopular Opinion thread, where it is ok to post unpopular opinions without being jumped on for holding them.

Although I said very clearly, 'do no harm'.

At no point did I say that it wasn't okay to repair a pony that was badly damaged, or customise a pony that was beyond help.

I just feel conflicted about the customising or restoring of ponies who don't really need it, especially when those ponies are being reduced. Bearing in mind that this is an opinion of mine which has changed quite a lot with the passage of time, because back when ponies were widely available, I didn't really think about it at all. But seeing people paying silly prices or struggling to get hold of certain ponies made me think again.

And really, the strongest opinion I have on this is about decarding, which is nothing to do with customisers or  restorers at all.

I will always feel we have a responsibility to other collectors, though. Whether it be in our record keeping, or whatever it is.

This is my conclusion after 24 years on and off, watching how we've basically destroyed the pricing market on certain items because of decisions made by earlier generations of collectors.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: serena-hime on April 25, 2021, 11:16:18 AM
I don’t care about collectible integrity. I don’t care if you’ve broken a pony’s seal and replaced the washer and filled it up with googly eyes or whatever. I prefer a cleaned pony to an authentic, untampered one.

Of course I have a pretty small collection and am more of a customizer anyway, soooo

Okay but......I really want to fill a pony with googly eyes now  :lol: Imagine popping off her head for maintenance and they just pour out onto the floor, like some kind of adorable horror scene.

Re: the topic of altering ponies, I'm somewhere in the middle. I see great value in preservation, it informs a lot of my restoration and storage methods for both ponies and dolls and I am very careful with how I treat my toys (often to my detriment- my BJDs rarely come out for fear of sunlight and dust exposure despite my doll room having blackout curtains, and I wash my hands repeatedly while handling my collection of both new and old dolls).

However, I don't think preservation is (or should be) the ultimate priority in collecting vintage toys for everyone, nor do I think it's especially important to take market value into consideration when making the choice to alter a pony in any way, because I'm not buying these with the expectation of making what I paid back if I decide to sell them.

I behead, wash and replace the tail washer of every pony, despite the fact that I only buy mint or near-mint. Tail washers and glued heads are not essential parts of the pony for me; rather, they're a point of concern and discomfort for me and I would prefer to clean every pony and know they will never succumb to tail rust or mold- and I don't think of these alterations as 'damage', rather they are precautions I take for both my comfort and the safety of the pony. I think hundreds or thousands of ponies would have been saved from certain types of damage if Hasbro never glued their heads or secured their tails with metal, actually.

At the end of the day, my happiness regarding my collection is the most important thing, and it will take precedent over anything else, but I try to strike a balance between preservation, prevention and enjoyment, and I'm grateful for the collectors who do value preservation above all else because we wouldn't know as much about ponies without them.

I think both types of collectors are good, positive, and valuable to the hobby at large. Both can exist, and the community would be worse without one or the other.





Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on April 25, 2021, 11:16:51 AM
I've been trying to think of an unpopular pony opinion to put in this thread for weeks.  But the truth is I have way more important things in my life to spend my emotional energy on at this time.   :( Perhaps someday I will finally come up with something.  Maybe if I research Hasbro's business ethics I can come up with something...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 25, 2021, 11:19:44 AM
I've been trying to think of an unpopular pony opinion to put in this thread for weeks.  But the truth is I have way more important things in my life to spend my emotional energy on at this time.   :( Perhaps someday I will finally come up with something.  Maybe if I research Hasbro's business ethics I can come up with something...

Maybe your unpopular opinion is that you don't have any unpopular opinions???

Wishing you luck with your real life stuff.

Also, Serena-hime is probably right, balance is important. This thread is not for changing people's opinions, just expressing them. I think that's also important.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on April 25, 2021, 11:34:28 AM
I've been trying to think of an unpopular pony opinion to put in this thread for weeks.  But the truth is I have way more important things in my life to spend my emotional energy on at this time.   :( Perhaps someday I will finally come up with something.  Maybe if I research Hasbro's business ethics I can come up with something...

Maybe your unpopular opinion is that you don't have any unpopular opinions???

*Gasp* I didn't think of this... Maybe so!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 25, 2021, 01:04:42 PM
I guess my opinion on the whole altering thing is... just think things through, don't do it if you don't think it's 100% necessary/you might regret it, and please keep notes/mark it somewhere on the pony (or yeah put a note inside it, I like that idea too) that it's been altered! It's easy to say "it's on the buyer" but it's only possible for a buyer to know what they're buying, if the seller has informed them, which isn't always the case! If that makes sense. I don't have anything against rehairing, patching up rubbed-off symbols, etc, but I'd like to know so I can make an informed decision whether or not to buy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: serena-hime on April 25, 2021, 01:17:52 PM
please keep notes/mark it somewhere on the pony (or yeah put a note inside it, I like that idea too) that it's been altered! It's easy to say "it's on the buyer" but it's only possible for a buyer to know what they're buying, if the seller has informed them, which isn't always the case! If that makes sense. I don't have anything against rehairing, patching up rubbed-off symbols, etc, but I'd like to know so I can make an informed decision whether or not to buy.

100% agree with this! I don't mind ponies that have been beheaded/tail washer replaced or cleaned, but I do not like to buy ponies that have had chemical treatments or significant hair alteration or restoration- I would be very upset to unknowingly buy a pony that has had an oxy treatment or hair that has been heavily restored; not just because I prefer minty or near-mint ponies, but because 1) those treatments could potentially damage that pony, or other ones it might come into contact with and 2) my restoration methods might react poorly with whatever's already been done to it and 3) some hair restoration methods affect the texture of the hair in a way that I don't like, which isn't always fixable.

I also like the idea of putting the note inside the pony, I really don't like ponies with writing on them lol. A cute little pouch with a note inside the pony would be both effective, safe and adorable, imo.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on April 25, 2021, 01:23:36 PM
I loved the early coloring books with humans in them and still like them.  It didn’t make any sense that humans and ponies lived together.  But I thought the baby ponies running around a barn was adorable.  I assumed that the ponies struck out on their own at some point or there was some sort of meet up? I kind love that random things happen in pony world with 0 explanation just like when we were children.


I did really want ponies to just show up one day to play.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 25, 2021, 02:14:26 PM
I guess my opinion on the whole altering thing is... just think things through, don't do it if you don't think it's 100% necessary/you might regret it, and please keep notes/mark it somewhere on the pony (or yeah put a note inside it, I like that idea too) that it's been altered! It's easy to say "it's on the buyer" but it's only possible for a buyer to know what they're buying, if the seller has informed them, which isn't always the case! If that makes sense. I don't have anything against rehairing, patching up rubbed-off symbols, etc, but I'd like to know so I can make an informed decision whether or not to buy.

I also second this. This is really well outlined and a note inside the pony prevents the need to actually deface it, so seems like a great solution (so long as the ink can't run).

Until I was about 5 I believed ponyland was a real place and ponies really did come over the rainbow. So yeah.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Snapdragon on April 26, 2021, 01:35:49 AM
This may be an unpopular opinion, but as a collector and a customizer, I side-eye when I see fellow artists baiting ponies indiscriminately, especially for sale. (If it's for yourself, who cares? You can light Ice Crystal on fire if you want to, because he's your property! ... just don't post about it on pony groups if you don't want to get flamed. :lmao: )

I've probably baited some ponies that folks would have preferred to be restored. I think there's some people in the world who would want every single bait pony returned to their previous character, even if it means essentially customizing the pony anyway. (New paint, hair, sculpting, etc.) I also think there's some artists who think 'I can make $200 so who cares?' and bait anything that lands in their hands. I think we need to aim somewhere for the middle ground, and I disagree with both ends of the spectrum. (And to our credit, I do generally think that most of the community falls somewhere in the middle ground!)

I've only seen it happen a couple of times, but I think if you want to bait whatever you want, you need to show the before photos in artist-only spaces... because showing off mint-condition G1s and bragging about how you're going to 'make $200 per custom out of them' in front of primarily collectors is going to ruffle some feathers, and it's rude behavior in a collector-centered space. (You also don't have to show 'before' photos! You can just post the lovely result and no one needs to know it's an Ice Crystal under the paint.)

I also feel like we may start seeing a shortage of certain poses, because (for example) I've seen a lot of Rapunzel customs churned out in the past few years, and no one seems to want to vary the pose. There are SO MANY Bowtie-pose baits I've seen (that color seems to get age dots like crazy!), but hardly ever any Love Melody, Cranberry Muffins, etc. The HQG1C project will help with this I'm sure, but the 'I'm gonna make $200 profit!' sector doesn't wanna spend $15-20 per bait.

EDIT because I forgot to mention, obviously once you buy the pony, it's your property to do with whatever you want. Light it on fire! Bait a mint pony! Go crazy! However: you open ourself up to criticism and/or negative feedback if you then brag about it on collector spaces, even if they are also customizer spaces. You can buy an original Van Gogh, but if you paint over it to suit your personal tastes, the Van Gogh fans are going to voice their disagreement if you post about it on Van Gogh groups.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on April 26, 2021, 06:04:57 AM
I feel though that no one IS baiting mint condition ponies :huh: Maybe I'm wrong and have just missed it when it came up, but most people who show before pics DO have mangy ponies. Who would bait an Ice Crystal? That's just dumb and I don't think customizer's who also collect would do such a thing.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Snapdragon on April 26, 2021, 06:21:49 AM
I feel though that no one IS baiting mint condition ponies :huh: Maybe I'm wrong and have just missed it when it came up, but most people who show before pics DO have mangy ponies. Who would bait an Ice Crystal? That's just dumb and I don't think customizer's who also collect would do such a thing.

I recall one specific situation where a customizer posted a brag of ‘look at all this bait my friend just found for me at the thrift!’ and included was a mint Big Brother, along with ... basically every pony there being mint or VG, LOL. Folks kicked up a storm, the customizer got very aggressive and offered the “what do I care if he’s worth $25, I’ll sell him for $200 as a custom!” and people got even more angry. I’ve also seen some folks who post in-progress photos of ponies who are in a desirable pose, but who don’t look very baity at all. (Photos can lie, so I always hope they are worse looking in person!)

So unfortunately it happens, but I do think it’s very uncommon, thankfully. I’m sure some people just don’t post before pictures for just that reason, but I think most artists are very conscientious, since we’re also collectors!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 26, 2021, 07:18:20 AM
Very well said Snapdragon! I completely agree. I love customs but I do think some people are WAY too quick to call something "bait" - I've seen eBay auctions marked "bait" and the pony's in pretty good shape, just needs some TLC, maybe a rehair.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on April 26, 2021, 08:35:31 AM
That is true about lots. I have some collection ponies that I got in so called bait lots. Most just needed a tail or had a hair trim or something simple.

General question for anyone about "bait" - Do you feel that way about all gens? Just G1?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 26, 2021, 08:52:11 AM
If something would take enough restoration work to be considered a custom but is a sought after pony, I try to make the custom related to the original pony or preserve whatever's intact. I'm doing something to a Seaflower right now because she would have needed a FBR anyway, but I saved her symbols because they were in pretty good condition.

I'm definitely in the minority as far as preserving G4 go-I will save them if I can. If they have sharpie or other permanent marks that severely hinder the displayability of the pony, I'll consider it bait, but I do not just bait G4 because they're mane 6 or another common character. Every mane 6 pony I've listed online has sold, even the cheap Target versions, so that probably helps my view.
 
I also view the fillies as hard to find/not worth baiting now because I find them so scarcely and they sell for about $15 each. That's quite a lot!

Of course, that's my view as someone who likes to clean them up, enjoys G4, and sells. For someone who doesn't, I'd imagine it's a lot different.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 26, 2021, 09:07:27 AM
G2 yes, G3 I'm starting to feel that way... G4 I'm torn, I think it depends on the pony. I find it hard to get too worked up about the thought of one less generic main 6 in the world.. but I'd still check first before baiting - make sure it's not a version that was only released once + is hard to find, or something.

Anything that's still on shelves is fair game IMO.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on April 26, 2021, 09:17:27 AM
That is true about lots. I have some collection ponies that I got in so called bait lots. Most just needed a tail or had a hair trim or something simple.

General question for anyone about "bait" - Do you feel that way about all gens? Just G1?

IMO:

G1s I will bait if they have unremoveable marks (like the permanent marker on my Big Brother that I turned into Troubleshoes) or if they come already stripped of hair/paint so I would have to do a custom job to even restore them anyway.  I have a couple that I found at thrift stores with the hair chopped off so they will be rehaired--most likely with an alternate hair scheme to make it obvious they are not original but I do not plan to do full customization on them.

I don't have any G2s but I feel like the biggest issue I've ever seen on them is missing eye gems that can be replaced so not bait.

G3-If it looks nice in general I won't bait it because people are still looking for these but hair cuts/stains/marks that can't be removed make it bait-able after I look to make sure it isn't rare like Anchors Away or Port-a-Bella since I feel some collectors would take them in whatever condition they could get them in.

G4-Mane 6 are ALL baitable.  There are so many of these (especially Pinkie Pie) that I don't know that they will ever be classified as rare unless they are MIB/MOC in 20+ years.  The only exception MIGHT be the original releases of Twilight, Rainbow Dash and Applejack that had bangs.  The other characters I would probably re-home before baiting unless there was significant damage due to their general rarity.

And when I do make a custom I only use a bait that I have an original for in my collection--so I'm baiting the worse looking one.  For example if I am using a Basic Fun Seashell for a bait, I have a Basic Fun Seashell in my collection that won't be touched for customs.  This is my own, personal practice so I don't expect other customizers to do the same but I feel like this way if I decide to get rid of things down the road, I've saved one original for someone else to collect that I can honestly say was in better condition than the one I customized.

Right now I have a Salty with a big yellow stain on his face/side that I got in a bait lot.  I have not found a better one so for now he will not be baited even though I cannot get the stain off of him.

And I intentionally bought extras of the Cutie Mark Crew lines to customize so while they are not bait they are custom fodder and again I only customize them if I have another in my collection.  I've enjoyed turning the G1 designs into the Cutie Mark Crew style.  I'm still trying to get my hands on a second pretzel accessory so I can do a Twist custom...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on April 26, 2021, 09:31:09 AM
That is true about lots. I have some collection ponies that I got in so called bait lots. Most just needed a tail or had a hair trim or something simple.

General question for anyone about "bait" - Do you feel that way about all gens? Just G1?

G1- I try to use only ponies with age spots, regrind, or other thought-to-be unfixable issues as bait.  Or if the pony has lesser issues but it's super common.  Like head body mismatch Cotton Candy.

G2- I have only used two for customs... One was chewed on and I don't remember what the other one's condition was.  But they were both common.

G3- Depends on rarity.  And again, I try to go by body condition.  But more flexible than G1.

G4- I bought a bunch of the $3 ones at Target and I'm still making my way through those!  I have a few more that I bought new specifically to customize (due to the pose).  Once I use those up I will try to use common ponies or bad condition ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 26, 2021, 10:25:43 AM
I feel though that no one IS baiting mint condition ponies :huh: Maybe I'm wrong and have just missed it when it came up, but most people who show before pics DO have mangy ponies. Who would bait an Ice Crystal? That's just dumb and I don't think customizer's who also collect would do such a thing.

People have baited good or acceptable condition ponies since the start of pony collecting. It's just that in recent years it's become more frowned on, and so it's not so overt.

Although condition is subjective which is another problem.

Suggest the bait subject would make a good new thread?? It seems like an interesting discussion but it's going to get lost in here.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on April 26, 2021, 10:34:43 AM
People have baited good or acceptable condition ponies since the start of pony collecting. It's just that in recent years it's become more frowned on, and so it's not so overt.

Although condition is subjective which is another problem.

Suggest the bait subject would make a good new thread?? It seems like an interesting discussion but it's going to get lost in here.

Huh. Guess I missed it all. I bought two bait lots, one G1 one G3 from customizers who were getting out of the hobby and all the ponies I received both times are definitely baity. But as I said above, I've bought lots off eBay that were bait or TLC condition that were fine. In fact, that's happened too many times and now I have all these G1s I don't know what to do with :lol:

Condition is subjective, absolutely. That's why I find "bait guides" rather worthless. It's a good starting point but it's better to learn about ponies in general.

Sure, I can start one in customs.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 26, 2021, 10:42:55 AM
There are also probably a fair number of genuinely bait ponies, but it's also not uncommon - or wasn't, in the past - for customisers to prepare baits and then sell them. So like removing all the hair, symbol, etc, but then selling them on. Of course, there are also some horribly damaged ones which get prepared like this which makes it hard to tell the difference.

...I was acquainted with a customiser who had some questionable practices back when and I learned some stuff then that gave me pause for thought about this as an issue.

For the record, I think most customisers who post openly about their customs are probably ethical. But it's not the whole story.

I don't have any issue with customising. I just don't feel like baiting a good condition pony that's no longer in stores is maybe not a good idea. So basically that's my stance.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on April 26, 2021, 12:04:48 PM
Okay I think my unpopular pony opinion is that I don't mind what anyone else's opinion on what people should do with their ponies is  :lol:  If one person says never bait anything ever and another says bait anything you own if you want, I just can't bring myself to be bothered by either of them  :lookround:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Snapdragon on April 26, 2021, 04:04:25 PM
I do think the bait conversation might be safer over here in the 'unpopular opinions' thread, only because the bait conversation can get very judgey, very quickly. 'You're not baiting how I like, and thus you are wrong!' etc. But I think it's a good conversation to have, because there's always new eyes reading and learning! :heart: But just for kicks -

G1 - I went to my first MLP Fair and dug through every bait bin to find new collection ponies for cheap! As I've grown and spent a decade+ collecting as an adult, I look back on these ponies and think, 'oh no... you really were kind of bait!' :lmao: Chopped hair, stains, missing symbols! But they're still precious to me because of the memories associated with them. :heart: For myself now, I want to have multiple unfixable issues before I can comfortably bait a pony - damaged/no hair, symbols scuffed/missing, stains, body damage. A pony will often have their eyes intact, so as of late I've done some customs where I modify the existing eyes, without outright wiping and repainting them. I suspect a lot of folks on eBay put 'bait/TLC' either because they're not collectors and don't know the terms (and want to avoid 'item not as described' claims), or don't know how to fix those issues, either restoration or rehairing. Since I'm a customizer, I'm in a better position to be able to fix the ponies I don't think are ready to be baited yet! :)

G2 - I have only found one truly 'bait' G2, and that was a pony who had her hair buzzed to the skin! Most G2s seem to be in pretty good condition, or maybe they just don't show up enough in beater lots on eBay? I don't think missing crystals should classify them as bait, since those are pretty easy to replace.

G3 - during the years they were on the shelves, I actually deboxed a MIB to make a custom. :blush: At the time, they were plentiful and we never thought they'd run out! Oh, those were the days... :cry: I've bought tons of 'bait' ponies for $1 who really just need new hair, so eventually I'd like to do some alternate rehairs on them! I think folks do bait them a bit indiscriminately, but personally I'm trying to make customs only out of the ones who really need the help. That said, they're still pretty cheap and plentiful, especially those Core Seven poses, so I don't feel quite so bad for those. (I also still have some blanks I've been customizing! I wonder how long they'll produce those? Indefinitely I hope!!)

G4 - My mindset has been, 'if it's on the shelf, I'm supporting the line by taking it home to customize.' Hasbro still gets $5 either way! Since they're still making them by the pound (or were until this year), I don't feel so bad baiting any of the Mane 6, unless it's got some kind of cool gimmick or extra paint. And, sadly, many of the G4 I get secondhand have hair that's absolutely destroyed already... It's not exactly a product made to last. Fun fact, I actually bought a Plumsweet to customize for a friend, never made it, then flipped the MIB pony for a profit last year! :lmao: Procrastination can be good sometimes, actually!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 28, 2021, 06:56:29 AM
My unpopular opinion is, that it is kind of impossible to separate MLP from its media. It has always been there, because it is  Hasbro's commercial. Its like that with many of their toy properties tbph. Its just one part that makes up the whole recipe, and it's not anymore or less important then other part of the recipe.  You can tweak the amount and type of  toy/media/merch, in the same way you can tweak the type and amount of milk/flour/toppings,  but they still make up the cake.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 28, 2021, 10:40:47 AM
That's especially true for G4. With earlier gens I think people choose different aspects of the media to focus on, but I tend to agree - it's still Hasbro's promotional train. It's true of Jem as well...the animation (up till G4) and the comics are designed to sell ponies, and thus are all one big part of the advertising package.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: FernMariposa919 on April 28, 2021, 12:39:53 PM
I don't consider non-G1 as MLP  :lookround:  I love my 80s stuff !


Yessss...come on, hate me  :shocked:

Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, I KNOW that the other generations are My Little Pony, but to me, G1 will always be the best and I just don't really care about the other generations. I did watch Friendship is Magic (well, I still haven't seen the last season!) and enjoyed that, but that's probably the only non G1 MLP thing I like.

When I see people's G1 collections full of their ponies, play sets, merchandise, memorabilia, etc., I'm just drooling. Perhaps it's the nostalgia. Perhaps it's seeing the "vintage" aspect. (Are things from the '80s considered vintage now?) When I see any other generation of pony collections (especially G4), it just doesn't do anything for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 28, 2021, 02:59:16 PM
I've seen & heard of people referring to the Pony toys as "merch".
Nope. Sorry. Not to me.
MLP IS the toys. The Pony figures are the core, or heart, of the whole thing. I think here is where I disagree with the G4 fans. They talk of "time to watch Ponies" which to me sounds like going to the collection & admiring it (not that this sounds like a bad thing tbh). Then I realise they're referring to the cartoon, like it's the heart of everything.
The G1 cartoons were never the heart of G1, nor were the comics. The comics were never the heart of G2, & the cartoons were never the heart of G3. In all those cases the heart of the whole thing was the Pony toys.
I think that's where G4 got it wrong. It's not meant to be a show which spawns fun toys. It's meant to be toys with a fun show or shows.

I know at least one Discord server where that is an unpopular opinion I don't voice on there, for fear of what others would think. I don't mean it to degrade the cartoon in any way, but it's never been as important as the Pony toys to me. That's one of a thousand reasons I'm so disappointed in the lack of variety in the G4 brushables.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 28, 2021, 03:16:46 PM
I've seen & heard of people referring to the Pony toys as "merch".
Gasp.
Heresy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 28, 2021, 03:28:14 PM
Yeah, when I think "MLP merch" I think like, the sweater I'm wearing right now. (:P) Or a backpack or something. Maybe a Funko figure or something, I can never decide how I want to count stuff like that. But not the Hasbro toys themselves.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 28, 2021, 04:36:31 PM
I've seen & heard of people referring to the Pony toys as "merch".
Nope. Sorry. Not to me.
MLP IS the toys. The Pony figures are the core, or heart, of the whole thing. I think here is where I disagree with the G4 fans. They talk of "time to watch Ponies" which to me sounds like going to the collection & admiring it (not that this sounds like a bad thing tbh). Then I realise they're referring to the cartoon, like it's the heart of everything.
The G1 cartoons were never the heart of G1, nor were the comics. The comics were never the heart of G2, & the cartoons were never the heart of G3. In all those cases the heart of the whole thing was the Pony toys.
I think that's where G4 got it wrong. It's not meant to be a show which spawns fun toys. It's meant to be toys with a fun show or shows.

I know at least one Discord server where that is an unpopular opinion I don't voice on there, for fear of what others would think. I don't mean it to degrade the cartoon in any way, but it's never been as important as the Pony toys to me. That's one of a thousand reasons I'm so disappointed in the lack of variety in the G4 brushables.


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 28, 2021, 11:42:15 PM
I have no good opinion of Discord, honestly. I've had two bad experiences with it, one pony and one not.

The idea of ponies as merchandise is a bronyism. With any luck as G4 moves into G5, some of those concepts will start to fade - although admittedly it's hard to see it happening with G5 so far.

Calling ponies merch is like calling Tales G2. It's advertising your ignorance to the rest of the pony community.

On which note, returning to the theme of this thread - as much as I love the G1 comics and wish everyone had access to them, I wish bronies would stop citing 'things that happened' in the comic like they know all about it. Frequently it's wrong or out of context, or an assumption that it's somehow concrete canon for everyone and can't be shifted.

The examples I see most often are ones relating to Majesty (often cherry picked), and the infamous "The TE ponies were enslaved in a mine" story...probably the former to compare with Celestia and the latter because Rarity had that whole ep stuck in a mine.

I also see them cite the wrong issues of comics when making these claims.

It's really annoying. If you want to talk about G1 comics, at least read them first.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 29, 2021, 03:43:56 AM
I'm only on a few Discords myself, most Pony, one plushie sharky.

The Pony discord with the high Brony content is the Ponyfest Online one. The others are cool enough & the sharky one is pure wholesomeness xxx

I was on another Discord but I saw rules I'd been told not to break being broken & a couple of users were just too much. So when I got kicked for my reactions to this, I stayed out of there. No point going back there.

Anyway, yep, the comics aren't "canon" per se. There was never "canon" in G1. It was all about what we imagined.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 29, 2021, 06:06:00 AM
That's especially true for G4. With earlier gens I think people choose different aspects of the media to focus on, but I tend to agree - it's still Hasbro's promotional train. It's true of Jem as well...the animation (up till G4) and the comics are designed to sell ponies, and thus are all one big part of the advertising package.

It's really weird.  I tuned into Jem frequently,  but I never saw a single doll being sold. I had no idea there even were toys until I discovered the Arena.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 29, 2021, 06:18:25 AM
That's especially true for G4. With earlier gens I think people choose different aspects of the media to focus on, but I tend to agree - it's still Hasbro's promotional train. It's true of Jem as well...the animation (up till G4) and the comics are designed to sell ponies, and thus are all one big part of the advertising package.

It's really weird.  I tuned into Jem frequently,  but I never saw a single doll being sold. I had no idea there even were toys until I discovered the Arena.

Not to go offtopic too much, but I don't remember the toys either. I didn't ever watch the show...like with MLP there were some VHS here but I didn't go after it because the trailer on my pony vhs made it look like some weird show about magic rather than what it actually was. I may have been a bit too young, but as a kid all I ever saw were the same shelves of blond-clone barbie and I hated it. I'm pretty sure if I had ever seen Jem dolls, I would've been more interested. Hasbro didn't do a great job there.

Although the ep Glitter and Gold is basically a glorified 20 minute commercial for every new doll, accessory and outfit from the line (minus Jetta and Raya who got a 2 part special right after it to fix that issue!)

The same is true with the ponies though (going back on topic! Yay me!) here in the Uk at least. The idea the ponies are merch for the show makes no sense given most of the ponies aren't in the show, but even fewer of the ponies in the show were sold here. They were most all in the comic but nobody talks about ponies as merch for the comics...

It's just a very narrow view of MLP through the veil of G4. Anachronism is bad...

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on April 29, 2021, 11:28:27 AM
I think the direction MLP is going in is not going to make old school collectors or bronies happy. Tbh it almost feels like they are trying for a Paw Patrol/PJ Masks hit. Because after all those are big sellers with the target market despite the limited cast.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 29, 2021, 11:45:40 AM
The idea of ponies as merchandise is a bronyism. With any luck as G4 moves into G5, some of those concepts will start to fade - although admittedly it's hard to see it happening with G5 so far.

Calling ponies merch is like calling Tales G2. It's advertising your ignorance to the rest of the pony community.
A bronyism I've never heard of until today, but there you go.  I know some bronies don't seem to get that the toyline is the main part of MLP (which seems to be why the whole "Tales is G2" thing happened), but I didn't expect this.


On which note, returning to the theme of this thread - as much as I love the G1 comics and wish everyone had access to them, I wish bronies would stop citing 'things that happened' in the comic like they know all about it. Frequently it's wrong or out of context, or an assumption that it's somehow concrete canon for everyone and can't be shifted.

The examples I see most often are ones relating to Majesty (often cherry picked), and the infamous "The TE ponies were enslaved in a mine" story...probably the former to compare with Celestia and the latter because Rarity had that whole ep stuck in a mine.

I also see them cite the wrong issues of comics when making these claims.

It's really annoying. If you want to talk about G1 comics, at least read them first.
This also surprises me about bronies (although I have heard it said, I'm sure here, that they take the Twinkle Eye Ponies one as canon - I think even I stated that event as fact at least once), considering that in my experience they do the exact opposite with G4, i.e. they treat the comics as non-canon, and I keep explaining that the comics are canon, just a separate canon, and I tend to use the G1 comics as examples of how this works (i.e. everything created officially is "canon", but their own.)  I'm surprised they're not just saying that the G1 (and any other generation) comics are non-canon as well, as that's the attitude they've taken with G4.

Sorry if this is the wrong way to look at the previous generations (saying that all aspects of it are their own canon), but that's the easiest way I can look at it; the comics, the cartoons, and even the toys if we factor backcard stories and the like into it, are their own canon.

That said, it could just be that they like to see those comic things as "canon" for themselves, like their headcanon - I get the idea of doing that like, "Yeah, I like this storyline, so I'll imagine it was something that happened", but if it's like the "Tales is G2" thing and they're stating it as fact, I understand the problem.  But then, it could also just be that they aren't bothering to emphasise that it only happened in the comics, if that makes sense... I can only guess as it's contradictory behavior to how they are with G4 comics.

But I can understand the cherry picking thing if they're creating a story for those ponies - I do that, even with G4 (and to a lesser extent with the "same headcanons" that every brony supposedly has, though I ultimately focus on mine and my friend's headcanon.)  We're telling our own story, so we focus on what we like or what fits in for us, as well as completely creating our own.  If this isn't for a story or a headcanon, though, and they're stating it as fact, like I say I understand the problem.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 29, 2021, 12:00:09 PM
I just don't like the misappropriation. I saw a YT video a while back which was preaching all about the TEs down the mine as G1 canon, and it just irked me. (I also saw a YT video where they'd swiped a picture from my website as well, which I don't appreciate, but that's another matter...

I try NOT to watch videos on YT now but I was trying to give the whole cross-generational thing the benefit of the doubt and not just jump to conclusions about bronies because of the bad stuff we hear about.

Tales = G2 is entirely unforgivable though :P

I would agree all versions of pony are their own canon, whatever the generation. That makes sense to me? And that also includes headcanon because in G1-3 they were just part of how MLP worked.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 29, 2021, 12:53:19 PM
I just don't like the misappropriation. I saw a YT video a while back which was preaching all about the TEs down the mine as G1 canon, and it just irked me. (I also saw a YT video where they'd swiped a picture from my website as well, which I don't appreciate, but that's another matter...

I try NOT to watch videos on YT now but I was trying to give the whole cross-generational thing the benefit of the doubt and not just jump to conclusions about bronies because of the bad stuff we hear about.

Tales = G2 is entirely unforgivable though :P

I would agree all versions of pony are their own canon, whatever the generation. That makes sense to me? And that also includes headcanon because in G1-3 they were just part of how MLP worked.

I knew ponies getting carried off to their doom, by fire-breathing, skeletal dinosaurs wasn't some weird fever dream I had. *pumps fist*

:silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on April 29, 2021, 01:03:33 PM
I've seen & heard of people referring to the Pony toys as "merch".

Ahh yeah this bugs me, too! The ponies are just... the thing itself. It bugs me when I see people (usually G4 fans of course) talk about how they got some merch and it's just actual pony toys. Rather than like. A shirt, book, or anything else which would actually be merch.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 29, 2021, 01:05:05 PM
I think the direction MLP is going in is not going to make old school collectors or bronies happy. Tbh it almost feels like they are trying for a Paw Patrol/PJ Masks hit. Because after all those are big sellers with the target market despite the limited cast.
This would make sense. I skimmed through the annual report for Hasbro earlier and they keep saying that the MLP media stuff is in the hands of eOne now...who made PJ Masks.
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I wouldn't mind so much, personally. I like most kids cartoons.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 29, 2021, 01:31:51 PM
I think the direction MLP is going in is not going to make old school collectors or bronies happy. Tbh it almost feels like they are trying for a Paw Patrol/PJ Masks hit. Because after all those are big sellers with the target market despite the limited cast.
This would make sense. I skimmed through the annual report for Hasbro earlier and they keep saying that the MLP media stuff is in the hands of eOne now...who made PJ Masks.
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I wouldn't mind so much, personally. I like most kids cartoons.

That explains a lot.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 29, 2021, 03:14:59 PM
TBH, I'm not so worried about "G5" (I still don't like that Hasbro decided they could call the generational change with our labelling system, so yeah) and what its format is. If it's repetitive and annoying then it is - so long as it is for the kids and appeals to the kids, because they're the audience. The thing about FIM was that it became too much about the older fans and that kind of invaded the kids' space. Those of us who grew up with G1 didn't have to deal with that...I want a generation that puts the kids first, even if I think it's lame.

TBH the pony franchise/concept was broken irreversably by G4, and it probably can't ever be fixed. Repetitive toys are now going to be the core of the line, decorated by a TV show. At least they appear to be willing to nix the M6, at least to a degree. And that's something.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 29, 2021, 03:33:19 PM
TBH, I'm not so worried about "G5" (I still don't like that Hasbro decided they could call the generational change with our labelling system, so yeah) and what its format is. If it's repetitive and annoying then it is - so long as it is for the kids and appeals to the kids, because they're the audience. The thing about FIM was that it became too much about the older fans and that kind of invaded the kids' space. Those of us who grew up with G1 didn't have to deal with that...I want a generation that puts the kids first, even if I think it's lame.

TBH the pony franchise/concept was broken irreversably by G4, and it probably can't ever be fixed. Repetitive toys are now going to be the core of the line, decorated by a TV show. At least they appear to be willing to nix the M6, at least to a degree. And that's something.

I agree with much of this. Except I'll say that it's not so much that it can't be fixed, but more likely that they won't. Hopefully Hasbro will surprise people and let it have a good chunk of variety in their toy line,  and not stumble into the same pitfalls and ruts they've dug for themselves in 3.5 onward. It kinda galls me that little boys get better toylines, while little girls don't deserve squat in Hasbro's eyes. Out of touch old biddies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on April 29, 2021, 11:24:40 PM
I think the direction MLP is going in is not going to make old school collectors or bronies happy. Tbh it almost feels like they are trying for a Paw Patrol/PJ Masks hit. Because after all those are big sellers with the target market despite the limited cast.
This would make sense. I skimmed through the annual report for Hasbro earlier and they keep saying that the MLP media stuff is in the hands of eOne now...who made PJ Masks.
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I wouldn't mind so much, personally. I like most kids cartoons.

The only negative is those kinda things often have a set cast of characters that constantly get trotted out in toy form.

TBH, I'm not so worried about "G5" (I still don't like that Hasbro decided they could call the generational change with our labelling system, so yeah) and what its format is. If it's repetitive and annoying then it is - so long as it is for the kids and appeals to the kids, because they're the audience. The thing about FIM was that it became too much about the older fans and that kind of invaded the kids' space. Those of us who grew up with G1 didn't have to deal with that...I want a generation that puts the kids first, even if I think it's lame.

TBH the pony franchise/concept was broken irreversably by G4, and it probably can't ever be fixed. Repetitive toys are now going to be the core of the line, decorated by a TV show. At least they appear to be willing to nix the M6, at least to a degree. And that's something.

I agree with much of this. Except I'll say that it's not so much that it can't be fixed, but more likely that they won't. Hopefully Hasbro will surprise people and let it have a good chunk of variety in their toy line,  and not stumble into the same pitfalls and ruts they've dug for themselves in 3.5 onward. It kinda galls me that little boys get better toylines, while little girls don't deserve squat in Hasbro's eyes. Out of touch old biddies.

Eh it seems typical for little kid things. Even their Rescue Bots have a much smaller cast than the actual Transformers franchise. I noticed a lot of people who had G1 had ponies for a lot longer. They had to keep the variety up because otherwise kids would get bored. But something happened where kids started losing interest in toys at a much younger age. Since kids were losing interest in toys in general anyways they no longer needed a huge variety to keep them interested when they are just going to ditch them anyways.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 30, 2021, 12:41:44 AM
I'd say that's true of G1 and the longevity. It was very much pitched on the collect them all model..."be a my little pony mummy" or "collect them all and step into the wonderful world of my little pony", etc. And even though the comics moved on with new characters as ponies were released, they still pulled out old regulars and old stories from time to time.

I am not sure if I am unusual, having my first pony just before I turned 3 and putting them away in the attic when I was eleven. That may be an especially long run. But I certainly think that a lot of kids played with them for five or six years together. Kind of unheard of with G4 and probably G5.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on April 30, 2021, 05:30:25 AM
I am not sure if I am unusual, having my first pony just before I turned 3 and putting them away in the attic when I was eleven.
I think that's totally normal, at least it was where I grew up/with my friends. I would say the WAY we played with them changed as we got older, though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 30, 2021, 07:33:34 AM
Good point, Wardah. Some kids are entering collectors spaces sooner thanks to the internet. You see this in Webkinz and Littlest Pet Shop communities especially. Other kids will simply drop toys in favor for other entertainment methods that still allow for imaginative play, like Minecraft, Roblox, or other online roleplaying outlets.

I think eleven is around when I fell off playing with toys, but I would play with my younger siblings, so I played a bit later than most people. And then I just moved on to Minecraft, so, imaginative stuff never really stopped for me.

Oh, another opinion? Um, I guess that I like Pipp's wings is an unpopular opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 30, 2021, 07:48:45 AM
Well I... never stopped playing. I suppose as I grew older it was more about building the world & collecting than actual play like a six year old, but I loved my old Ponies into my 20s (& it only stopped there because bad things began happening)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 30, 2021, 08:21:19 AM
I am not sure if I am unusual, having my first pony just before I turned 3 and putting them away in the attic when I was eleven.
I think that's totally normal, at least it was where I grew up/with my friends. I would say the WAY we played with them changed as we got older, though.

I also had a younger sister who's almost 6 years younger, and so I would play with her as well. But yes, that's also true. And I wrote more stories about them as I got older, too. I wrote a lot about them when I was eight or nine, and my sister likes to tease me about a surviving 'newspaper' I wrote with an article 'by Starflash' in it.

My stopping coincided with secondary school. In part because one of the only 2 people to go to my secondary school from my primary was a nasty person and would spread around that I played with ponies in primary school like it was a bad thing. So I put mine away, but still played with Naynie and hers until deciding to get them down again in summer 94. And discovering with horror that they'd stopped making them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on April 30, 2021, 08:31:26 AM
Well I... never stopped playing. I suppose as I grew older it was more about building the world & collecting than actual play like a six year old, but I loved my old Ponies into my 20s (& it only stopped there because bad things began happening)

Same. I was given a friends ponies when I was around 13. They had to go on at least one adventure with my ponies :lol: Now I consider fixing hair or setting up playsets (like my G1 LPS) as "playing". Just making them look nice and admiring them, taking pictures, etc. I DO talk to my toys though (well, and some other inanimate objects, like my PC). "Oh, your hair is so pretty today." "I think you'd look better here." "Just gonna give you a brush." Things like that :P I think that's normal though - right?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on April 30, 2021, 08:49:00 AM
This may be unpopular, I really don't know, but I don't like long hair on ponies.  I much prefer the shorter mane length that was on the G1 Collector's set, as opposed to the longer hair that was on ponies like the flutter ponies.  This doesn't necessarily apply to customs, just to original MLPs.  Probably due to how I played with them as a kid...long hair would get in the way, and curly hair would be a pain to deal with. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on April 30, 2021, 09:52:02 AM
Idk if this is unpopular or not, but I just realised that I don't actually much like the G1 pony "Pillow Talk". I dislike her pose and her colours/symbol don't relaly grab me either. I do have her, though, so I'm not sure what I was thinking...  :lol:

Anyone else have ponies they've spent money on that they later realise they don't care for that much?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 30, 2021, 11:52:23 AM
Idk if this is unpopular or not, but I just realised that I don't actually much like the G1 pony "Pillow Talk". I dislike her pose and her colours/symbol don't relaly grab me either. I do have her, though, so I'm not sure what I was thinking...  :lol:

Anyone else have ponies they've spent money on that they later realise they don't care for that much?

I don't like Pillow Talk either. Not her colors, or her weird TAF symbol.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on April 30, 2021, 12:49:10 PM
Idk if this is unpopular or not, but I just realised that I don't actually much like the G1 pony "Pillow Talk". I dislike her pose and her colours/symbol don't relaly grab me either. I do have her, though, so I'm not sure what I was thinking...  :lol:

Anyone else have ponies they've spent money on that they later realise they don't care for that much?

I haven't had that problem yet but I could see it happening...

If she's in good condition please feel free to sell her to me, she's a big want for me  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on April 30, 2021, 01:29:45 PM


I haven't had that problem yet but I could see it happening...

If she's in good condition please feel free to sell her to me, she's a big want for me  :lol:
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I might actually do that! It will leave a space for another pony in my collection and it would be great to be able to help out a fellow Arena member at the same time. Feel free to PM me and we can discuss it  :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on April 30, 2021, 03:19:39 PM
Well I... never stopped playing. I suppose as I grew older it was more about building the world & collecting than actual play like a six year old, but I loved my old Ponies into my 20s (& it only stopped there because bad things began happening)

Same. I was given a friends ponies when I was around 13. They had to go on at least one adventure with my ponies :lol: Now I consider fixing hair or setting up playsets (like my G1 LPS) as "playing". Just making them look nice and admiring them, taking pictures, etc. I DO talk to my toys though (well, and some other inanimate objects, like my PC). "Oh, your hair is so pretty today." "I think you'd look better here." "Just gonna give you a brush." Things like that :P I think that's normal though - right?
Perfectly normal  :razz: :poke: :haha: :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on April 30, 2021, 05:51:15 PM
Non-show accurate Celestia and Luna ponies are beautiful too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on April 30, 2021, 05:58:34 PM
Non-show accurate Celestia and Luna ponies are beautiful too.
I think so too.  I don’t need show accuracy.  I think they should have made the cartoon ponies match the toys.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 30, 2021, 06:07:42 PM
I had mine and till I was 12, still played with and brushed them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on May 01, 2021, 07:38:35 AM
Non-show accurate Celestia and Luna ponies are beautiful too.

Agreed! I love the G4 princess toys, they're all so pretty.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyAmalthea on May 02, 2021, 06:25:17 AM
I dropped off playing with ponies around 5th grade, mostly because this girl at school ostracized me for it. I know I got a pony for my 11th birthday from a friend, and I believe that was my last one. I got really into drawing right around that time, and I drew, cut out, and laminated my own characters that I would build worlds for. So I still played, in general, after that, as I had younger siblings, whether it was with ponies, my created paper characters, or our dolls (which I strangely didn't get into until middle school, but we played in a more mature fashion, mostly making up stories about them), until it morphed into a more collector mentality of playing, as the toys I was into were of a more collector quality (dollhouse/miniatures, American Girl). By then, I mostly only 'played' with my siblings, because my friends were more into boys and video games, which I had zero interest in. So my playing sort of became my dirty little secret at home. I wonder how many other kids did the same for fear of ridicule. But...I feel like kids nowadays lose interest in toys way earlier for real, probably due to things like technology.

My unpopular opinion: I'm seeing a lot of g5 fanart online, and I understand people's enthusiasm for something new and wanting to use their imagination to make something come alive based on the half-dozen screenshots we've been given of the new ponies. But...it annoys me when I see all these renditions of Izzy with the tennis ball stuck on her horn (like do they think that her character just permanently has the ball there? I'm pretty sure the pic was just her being silly by balancing it there for a minute and not actually a permanent part of her), or these comics drawn of Pip constantly on her cellphone or taking phone pics of an annoyed Zipp and posting them, just because there was one pic of her with a phone, apparently they think that defines her personality. I don't know why it bugs me...I guess I just want to see the ponies in action before I make assumptions of what they're like...I know I'm probably in the minority here.

Edited for a typo.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 02, 2021, 06:55:41 AM
I don't really get the fascination with the tennis ball especially. I'm so excited for G5 and I am for sure analyzing any picture we get of it, but seeing some people really hardcore speculating on the tennis ball (it's probably just there because her horn is sharp) is interesting. Not the thing I would make videos and write hundreds of comments about.

I think the phone thing is cute. :P So I don't mind, also I think it's funny.

For speculations sake there's many more interesting things to talk about. I can definitely understand being excited, so not a dig at people who do analyze like that. I do just think we can direct that energy to be more broad.

Here's another one: I love Pipps wings and I'm tired of comments on my Instagram about how they look like clouds or people hate them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyAmalthea on May 02, 2021, 07:38:06 AM
Her wings don't bother me either, and I feel like we haven't seen enough pics from different angles for me to really make a judgment about them yet. So far, I think she's cute!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on May 02, 2021, 10:00:09 AM
I guess liking Hitch out the gate is an unpopular opinion? People always bring up Flynn Rider's character in comparison but... I like him :lookround: and if Hitch is going to have the same type of personality, I'll like him too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 02, 2021, 11:26:46 AM
I guess my G5 unpopular opinion is that I really don't have an opinion on most of it. I mean, it's there, but I don't have any strong like or dislike for any aspect of it thus far. Probably that's a good thing?

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Heelys on May 04, 2021, 01:44:03 PM
Cotton Candy and Snuzzle have the most significant symbols/cutie marks in the toyline's history. I will only elaborate if asked.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on May 04, 2021, 01:50:42 PM
Cotton Candy and Snuzzle have the most significant symbols/cutie marks in the toyline's history. I will only elaborate if asked.

I'm asking  :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Heelys on May 04, 2021, 02:15:04 PM
Cotton Candy and Snuzzle have the most significant symbols/cutie marks in the toyline's history. I will only elaborate if asked.

I'm asking  :)
Ah! Thank you for asking!

To me, these two symbols are the key to understanding how the designers came up with the idea of cutie marks to begin with. Cotton Candy's symbol isn't really a picture of anything-- it's a dappled fur pattern, like you'd see on an appaloosa horse. We don't question WHY My Little Pony toys have cutie marks anymore, but Cotton Candy is likely the origin point. She's a normal appaloosa who happens to be pink.
Then the designers started to think about how they could make these horses a little more unique, and someone must have brought up the idea of making the stamp of flank spots into fun shapes. I say Snuzzle is the keystone here mainly because of how easy the jump from animal spots to hearts is. I feel like shamrocks and butterflies must have come after the idea of hearts.

Cotton Candy is the blueprint of the My Little Pony concept, and Snuzzle is the first step into the time honored tradition of painting stars and flowers onto horse butts.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on May 04, 2021, 03:31:38 PM
Cotton Candy and Snuzzle have the most significant symbols/cutie marks in the toyline's history. I will only elaborate if asked.

I'm asking  :)
Ah! Thank you for asking!

Cotton Candy is the blueprint of the My Little Pony concept, and Snuzzle is the first step into the time honored tradition of painting stars and flowers onto horse butts.

Haha! Well, I couldn't let that one hang  :biggrin:

I think you're right about CC and it's certainly a good theory about Snuzzle. I adore the original six (plus the later Lemon Drop and Peachy) - thanks for bringing this up!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 05, 2021, 08:35:57 AM
I've decided I really like the Gem Blossom pose. It's cute.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on May 14, 2021, 07:49:15 PM
I don't like the pearly mail order baby ponies, they look super glossy and feel weird.  :pout:  :mad:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 14, 2021, 07:50:44 PM
I don't like the pearly mail order baby ponies, they look super glossy and feel weird.  :pout:  :mad:

Me either
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on May 14, 2021, 08:24:16 PM
This & they're duplicates of Ponies who already exist. Only a few Ponies get the honour of being allowed a duplicate who looks too similar (the likes of the Dutchies & some Argies look different enough to be allowed). Otherwise I'd be skint!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyAmalthea on May 14, 2021, 09:33:21 PM
I don't like the pearly mail order baby ponies, they look super glossy and feel weird.  :pout:  :mad:

I don't like how they have the pearly stuff over their eyes...that makes them look weird
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Snapdragon on May 15, 2021, 12:12:25 AM
I don't like the pearly mail order baby ponies, they look super glossy and feel weird.  :pout:  :mad:

I think they're cute; HOWEVER I wish the pearly sheen was more durable. I'm so hesitant to buy them because they always show up with huge scrapes and rubbed spots! :( And how can you clean them, if you're afraid to brush it off?!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 16, 2021, 09:17:54 AM
I don't like the weird proportions of the G5 toys, however  I feel like this Gen is a breath of fresh air, and that does make me relieved and happy. I also dig the different wing styles on the Pegasus,  minus Princess Swablu. I'm curious to see if the Winged Unicorns will look like.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: applejackbunny on May 16, 2021, 09:27:06 AM
I don't like the pearly mail order baby ponies, they look super glossy and feel weird.  :pout:  :mad:

I think they're cute; HOWEVER I wish the pearly sheen was more durable. I'm so hesitant to buy them because they always show up with huge scrapes and rubbed spots! :( And how can you clean them, if you're afraid to brush it off?!

Same here - I've never included them in my collection. I dislike the fact that they're duplicates and that the sheen covers their eyes as well - it does look weird...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TwilightStarshine on May 19, 2021, 10:42:31 AM
Please don't get me started on all the annoying historical inaccuracies and anti-other generation phobia by Garden Variety bronies that casually tag along the FiM fandom, and believe Über Brony What's-His-YouTube-Channel-Called no matter how contradicting and shady the so-called evidence. :throw:

I have collected MLP for a long time, but I certainly classify as a brony. :lookround: I just love to think and theorize about the world of Equestria, I love watching FiM... Around here it is actually still broadcasted on tv (Ziggo Channel 312 anyone?) However, I do not think G4 or FiM is superior in any shape, way or form. I am obviously not against headcanon. I do not think G4 is the best generation of ponies (that honor should go to G1 for more reasons than I can summarize right now, but first and foremost for providing the basic outline of the Equestrian world and the nature of MLP itself). However, I do think the FiM/G4 canon is the best developed storyline of all generations, and I for one really enjoyed the world of Equestria and Twilight's development from an insecure book smart filly to a wiser ascended alicorn princess.

Spoiler
But I am hardly objective since Twilight and Starshine were my absolute favorite G1 ponies (I bet nobody saw that coming). I actually regard TS as a direct descendent of G1 Twilight, and I expect Starshine and Celestia are related too. Just look at their symbols. Oh no! That's headcanon! Quick, someone! Throw the FiM Bible at me for straying from the True Path!

What I am mostly exploring these days is the irony of toxic bronyism. Funny enough, toxic bronyism effectively beats itself. It does not make sense at all. You cannot claim you like FiM and have watched and understood this show, and be so inconsiderate and intolerant of others. That is the ultimate anti-FiM response! You have effectively demonstrated you don't understand any the lessons and values the show teaches! Nobody gets to dictate what kind of fanart and fan fiction are acceptable, for one. Because the last thing this fandom needs is people expressing their creativity, right? ;) Some of these clowns actually watched "The Cutie Map" episodes, but somehow didn't get the most basic FiM messages, like, oh I don't know... "Individual differences are a good thing", "you should capitalize on each others strengths", "you should not feel intimidated by other's abilities and instead focus on developing your own talents" and so on. That is part of the canon, too... Toxic bronies think they understand FiM and as a logical consequence MLP, but they just really don't. They might miss the wider context of MLP's history and roots, or perhaps they are generally too emotionally immature to understand the psychology of other people. Whatever the reason for their immaturity and hatefulness- they are universally annoying. It's possible to like FiM and G4 without developing a superiority complex.

Secondly, all things MLP are generally meant for children. How grown adults can feel better about themselves by bashing MLP cartoons is beyond me. I am not talking about the odd out of context video, but mocking and bashing older generations, with the aim of discrediting that entire generation. All the G3 hate is especially sickening to me. Frankly, I never liked the art style of the G3 cartoons that much, but the show is cute enough. Most importantly, the actual ponies (the toys) are stunning. They were loved by many collectors (including myself) for a reason, and they sold very well in the early 2000s. I hope G3 fans will raise their voice in the near future. I think most of them feel very intimidated by some of the stuff that's out there.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on May 22, 2021, 09:39:02 AM
I love the Perfume Puff Palace, didn't realise it was unpopular :-(
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Twizel on May 22, 2021, 10:19:21 AM
I don't like the G1 perfume puff ponies or the scented ponies. The G3 scented ponies are super cute, but the only one I have is a second-hand Citrus Sweetheart, because her scent faded.

I wish I liked G2 better, but they're body shape doesn't work for me. I do have a soft spot for the G3 McDonalds ponies though.

I liked the early seasons of the G4 cartoon, but I don't like the toys. They look like Bambis. Chibi style is not my thing. And don't get me started on the weird human-transformed ponies.

G5 toys look even more awful. They've put chibi heads on anorexic bodies to create the stuff of nightmares. So glad I don't actively collect much these days, except for baits for customs and a gem I find here and there. Every time I see what has happened to the toy industry these days, I'm glad I don't have children to be frightened by these psychotic pastel giraffes. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on May 23, 2021, 11:55:31 PM
psychotic pastel giraffes.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on May 24, 2021, 05:13:46 AM
"Psychotic Pastel Giraffes" would be a fantastic name for a band :silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 24, 2021, 05:21:53 AM
Psychotic Pastel Giraffes. :snicker:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on May 24, 2021, 07:16:40 AM
Anything to do with perfume or makeup on ponies is just... weird.  I get it, no hoof care playset, but ... I have never seen a horse wearing lipstick.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponyprincess2021 on May 24, 2021, 08:45:50 AM
I never owned the perfume palace or any other play set. But I can agree after seeing the box it came in.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 25, 2021, 12:32:47 PM
I like Sunny's symbol,  because it reminds me of the Sparkle Babies symbols.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lady Frostbite on May 28, 2021, 07:31:16 PM
Anything to do with perfume or makeup on ponies is just... weird.  I get it, no hoof care playset, but ... I have never seen a horse wearing lipstick.

I got Strutz flashbacks  :shocked:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mrs. Prospector on May 28, 2021, 09:00:11 PM
Anything to do with perfume or makeup on ponies is just... weird.  I get it, no hoof care playset, but ... I have never seen a horse wearing lipstick.

Not to mention the way the commercials show how the hoof polish is meant to be applied...like hippo toes...what's that about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7U1X0XCnwU


Also unrelated, but the song in this commercial is honestly a bop. Just so 80's!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on May 29, 2021, 01:19:17 AM
Anything to do with perfume or makeup on ponies is just... weird.  I get it, no hoof care playset, but ... I have never seen a horse wearing lipstick.

Not to mention the way the commercials show how the hoof polish is meant to be applied...like hippo toes...what's that about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7U1X0XCnwU


Also unrelated, but the song in this commercial is honestly a bop. Just so 80's!

Wish I didn’t see the advert now that’s creepy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on May 29, 2021, 07:21:50 AM
Why did y'all have to remind me of the hippo toes  :cry:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: red_velvet_rose on May 29, 2021, 12:10:54 PM
Maybe not unpopular among us, but apparently unpopular with Hasbro...

I WANT GREEN PONIES

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on May 30, 2021, 06:43:10 AM
Maybe not unpopular among us, but apparently unpopular with Hasbro...

I WANT GREEN PONIES
x2
And less pink
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponyprincess2021 on May 30, 2021, 07:20:09 AM
Maybe not unpopular among us, but apparently unpopular with Hasbro...

I WANT GREEN PONIES
They started making less and less green ponies. Almost every color has more ponies than green. Also there isn’t a lot of clear ponies and red ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ridi on June 04, 2021, 10:22:11 AM
While I can't say I *like* them, I don't dislike the names of the G5 ponies. If anything, I find them heaps and bounds better than the naming trend started by G3 where the names seemed downright adlibbed. I swear, if I see one more pony with "sweetie" in her name...

The G5 ponies do also have two names, but it seems to be more of an established first name/last name thing which I don't mind as much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on June 04, 2021, 10:58:35 AM
Maybe not unpopular among us, but apparently unpopular with Hasbro...

I WANT GREEN PONIES
x2
And less pink

Yaaas!!!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Thrice on June 04, 2021, 08:12:40 PM
Maybe not unpopular among us, but apparently unpopular with Hasbro...

I WANT GREEN PONIES


This 💯
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 05, 2021, 10:22:31 AM
I don't mind some of the Bore Core. I like G3 Rainbowdash, Sweetie Belle and Cheerilee, they are such pretty ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 05, 2021, 11:39:15 AM
I dunno if this is unpopular or not, or if it's been said before (hard to remember all what's been said in this thread!), but I don't mind the notion of MLP having a core set of "main" characters *in general*. It's when those characters almost entirely take over the line that I have a problem.

Monster High, Enchantimals, Littlest Pet Shop (for the brief period when they flirted with doing a "core 7" kind of thing), probably many other lines but those are the first few to come to mind, they all had main characters but released plenty of other characters as well! Enchantimals especially does it well IMO, their lines are usually like 90% new chars. If MLP had done their core 7 or main 6 like that, then I'd have no problems with it. I prefer how G1 did it but I totally get WHY they'd want some main/recurring characters.

What bugs me is they DID have a pretty good balance of main 6/non-main 6 at the start of G4. I just don't understand why they dropped that halfway through the line in favour of an endless parade of main 6 with MAYBE some new characters once in a while!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 05, 2021, 12:10:17 PM
I think it would've been interesting to see how Hasbro developed the 7 characters (Tales Ponies) going forward if they had had a third or fourth year. It did seem like from 1993 and 1994 that they intended to reissue each of them in different sets with other ponies and then add other characters too - which would have worked nicely. But we'll never know if they only ever anticipated 2 years.

I guess it's unpopular but I'm fine with pink ponies. However, I do support the more green ponies as well :)

I also don't like the names of the G5s. But I'm really just unmoved by them completely right now...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponyprincess2021 on June 05, 2021, 12:11:50 PM
I don’t mind if the same characters are re used. But maybe it’s better if we let go of the older ones because after a while I would get sick of seeing the same characters on screen. But I wouldn’t be annoyed if they kept old characters and had new ones.

Post Merge: June 05, 2021, 12:25:32 PM

I think it would've been interesting to see how Hasbro developed the 7 characters (Tales Ponies) going forward if they had had a third or fourth year. It did seem like from 1993 and 1994 that they intended to reissue each of them in different sets with other ponies and then add other characters too - which would have worked nicely. But we'll never know if they only ever anticipated 2 years.

I guess it's unpopular but I'm fine with pink ponies. However, I do support the more green ponies as well :)

I also don't like the names of the G5s. But I'm really just unmoved by them completely right now...
I would be pretty upset if there were less pink ponies so I’m happy that they exist. But there is a lot of colors that I usually never really see ponies with. Also I didn’t grow up with g1 and I never saw the original show. But I like how their bringing back some g1 characters I would like if there were g1 ponies as actual characters in g5 Izzy kind of reminds me of buttons.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 05, 2021, 01:21:17 PM
I guess I was lucky that my G1 childhood ponies weren't flooded by pink - and the pink ones I had early on were (Movie Star, not SS) Shady and Snowflake who are...significantly vivid, let's just say, to not be dull. So I didn't get sick of pink ponies.

As a kid I hated pink, I don't hate it now. But it does depend on the SHADE of pink. Pinkie Pie pink should be banned. But the pale pink or the magenta/pink combos like Cheerilee...I'm down for those.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 05, 2021, 01:28:32 PM
I like pink ponies too! As long as there's other colours AS WELL as pink. ;) I just want variety in general.

I agree that Hasbro did seem to be trying out the "core ponies" model with the Tales characters.

I also don't like the names of the G5s. But I'm really just unmoved by them completely right now...

Same here. Their names are so weird.. but it's really difficult for me to feel strongly about the G5s either way. They're just kind of *there*, for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 05, 2021, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: Carrehz
Same here. Their names are so weird.. but it's really difficult for me to feel strongly about the G5s either way. They're just kind of *there*, for me.
Yep. That's it exactly. But if the kids like them, then it's all good.

And that was also my feeling about pink. Pink AND other colours.

Although I am a bit sick of the orange/pink colourscheme that seems to have been haunting the line since Sparkleworks in G3.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Snapdragon on June 05, 2021, 11:43:47 PM
It's interesting that we're talking about the Core 7/Mane 6, because I strongly got the feeling that when they brought in the trio of 'new heroes' during the MLP:FIM episodes where we meet Starlight Glimmer in Season 5 (wow, so long ago!), that we were going to see some new reoccurring characters with Double Diamond, Party Favor and Sugar Belle. I almost felt like, 'aha, here's the new main trio, the Mane Three', and it annoyed me a little! I wasn't ready to have the Mane Six upended so quickly for some new merchandising opportunities! And then ... we kind of never saw them again? And I disliked that even more, LOL! (It also made me annoyed when we saw Sugar Belle brought back for the 'yay, marriage and babies!' with Big Mac, and we kind of never spoke about her two best friends ever again!) So while I was/am sick of only getting toys of the primary six characters, I did enjoy following their adventures on the show! I wish they could go back to the early days, where each wave would have one or two of the Mane Six, and a few backgrounders/OCs to accompany.

And on a wildly different topic, I like pink ponies, despite my tween/teenager stage of 'boo, pink sucks'. But I agree, when the toyline is 80% pink, it's easy to resent the pink! I think pink is a classic staple of MLP, and I hope that won't change ... but I hope we will also see a variety of colors. (And please, please no more of the orange/pink combo! Sparkleworks says enough is enough! :lmao: )
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 06, 2021, 06:29:33 AM
Oh god yes, please stop with all the orange/pink XD And orange/purple, for that matter.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 06, 2021, 06:43:25 AM
Orange/green/yellow and orange/blue look good together.  I actually do like neon orange/pastel pink as a combo. And I say that as someone who doesn't like orange and pink that much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on June 06, 2021, 07:09:58 AM
Is someone dissing orange ponies?

I love Wish-a-Whirl, she's my favorite G3 because of her color combo. I think pink and purple are over done. We need more blue and green ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 06, 2021, 07:13:24 AM
I got Wish-a-Whirl last year, she's stunning!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on June 06, 2021, 08:49:36 AM
I wish they could go back to the early days, where each wave would have one or two of the Mane Six, and a few backgrounders/OCs to accompany.

That would only work if the only ponies they released were regular ponies with no gimmicks at all. Otherwise you would end up with a mismatched set trying to get all six because one pony would have tinsel and another two would have designs going down the leg and then another would be pearly and so on. That there reminds me of my biggest peeve. If they are going to have a mane six set they can't leave anyone out. I have skipped whole sets because one character was missing. The only set I got that didn't have all of them was the pearly ones because my love of translucent things is so strong. But I did also get the pearly reboot set that did include all six.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on June 06, 2021, 03:01:48 PM
I wish they could go back to the early days, where each wave would have one or two of the Mane Six, and a few backgrounders/OCs to accompany.

That would only work if the only ponies they released were regular ponies with no gimmicks at all. Otherwise you would end up with a mismatched set trying to get all six because one pony would have tinsel and another two would have designs going down the leg and then another would be pearly and so on. That there reminds me of my biggest peeve. If they are going to have a mane six set they can't leave anyone out. I have skipped whole sets because one character was missing. The only set I got that didn't have all of them was the pearly ones because my love of translucent things is so strong. But I did also get the pearly reboot set that did include all six.

STILL MAD they didn't make a pearly pre-reboot Rarity. That was messed up.

They could just do two waves for each line to include the main 6 and new characters each time. Three main characters and 3 random characters in wave 1, then the other 3 main characters and 3 more random characters in the second wave. I'd love that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 06, 2021, 03:06:22 PM
Well with any luck, we'll never see the Mane Suxx again. I will be livid if they put a single toy of them in the new line.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 07, 2021, 06:52:16 AM
They could just do two waves for each line to include the main 6 and new characters each time. Three main characters and 3 random characters in wave 1, then the other 3 main characters and 3 more random characters in the second wave. I'd love that.

I agree, that'd be the perfect way to go about it! That way no one gets left out, but it's also not just the same old characters every time.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on June 07, 2021, 07:20:17 AM
They could just do two waves for each line to include the main 6 and new characters each time. Three main characters and 3 random characters in wave 1, then the other 3 main characters and 3 more random characters in the second wave. I'd love that.

I agree, that'd be the perfect way to go about it! That way no one gets left out, but it's also not just the same old characters every time.

They sorta did that already except all the new characters would be in the second wave. And then stores would order so much of the first wave that the second wave with all the good characters would be hard to find.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 09, 2021, 03:04:43 AM
I still think the MH approach (and G2 approach I think too) was best. But I don't care about them matching? Why would they need to match? I don't really understand that so maybe it's an unpopular opinion of mine...?

I often only had one pony from a set as a kid and it never bothered me that way.

And it's not as though Hopscotch matches the glitter symbol of her set. Gypsy and SNowflake have freckles but the others don't. Honeycomb and Gypsy are different species. I mean, what's the fun in them all being the same..?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 09, 2021, 07:07:20 AM
A few re-releases here and there are fine. I don't understand why hasbro has this horrendous need to drown everything else with a handful of characters. And we certainly don't need them constantly throughout the whole thing.  Especially considering how easy it is to pick up a lot of toys second hand online.

 Kids don't want 10 Rainbowdashes, 15 Twilight Sparkles,  and 8 Sunny Starscouts. One of each will do just fine. MLP isn't Barbie, and it never should have been attempted that way.

Some adults army build. Kids, not as much.  Extreme repetition frustrates them too. My daughter got a little sick of getting Rarity pack-ins, and willingly gave the extras away.

I've seen little girls digging for anything else,  and not even bothering with mane suxx. I've seen them grab the basic fun ponies. I've seen them grab g3s, other g4s and fakies at swapmeets.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on June 09, 2021, 07:31:30 AM
A few re-releases here and there are fine. I don't understand why hasbro has this horrendous need to drown everything else with a handful of characters. And we certainly don't need them constantly throughout the whole thing.  Especially considering how easy it is to pick up a lot of toys second hand online.

 Kids don't want 10 Rainbowdashes, 15 Twilight Sparkles,  and 8 Sunny Starscouts. One of each will do just fine. MLP isn't Barbie, and it never should have been attempted that way.

Some adults army build. Kids, not as much.  Extreme repetition frustrates them too. My daughter got a little sick of getting Rarity pack-ins, and willingly gave the extras away.

I've seen little girls digging for anything else,  and not even bothering with mane suxx. I've seen them grab the basic fun ponies. I've seen them grab g3s, other g4s and fakies at swapmeets.


It's funny because even Barbie releases plenty of (unnamed) new characters constantly, such as in their Fashionistas line. I really don't get why Hasbro are so dead set on releasing so many toys of their main pony casts... they can absolutely find a balance between making different releases of the main pony casts and new characters, but they really didn't seem to want to the longer G4 went on. So far all we've seen of the G5 toys have been main characters, though we've not really seen many still. I hope we get more variety in the end than we've seen so far. But I won't hold out hope too much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 09, 2021, 07:44:36 AM
Do they? I didn't know that about Barbie.  I stand corrected.

And while Transformers does go a bit overboard with popular perennial characters,  they have a good balance between old, new, obscure and popular. So certainly they can, need and should bring that back to MLP.

G5 is just beginning,  we'll wait and see what they do. And we'll cross our fingers and refuse to hold our breath.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 09, 2021, 08:06:47 AM
Honestly that's what really confuses me about the endless parade of main characters, how Hasbro DO get it right with Transformers. Like, why get it right with one line and not the other?? I don't know a lot about TFs but I do know whenever I see them on the shelves, yeah there'll be at least one Optimus Prime, but there's also a good variety of characters. Can't remember the last time we had that with MLP.

Admittedly TF does have multiple different lines (Rescue Bots/Bayformers/etc) whereas MLP usually just has one main line, so it's not entirely a fair comparison I guess, but still... If they could just give that kind of character variety to MLP, that would be fantastic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 09, 2021, 08:37:47 AM
Honestly that's what really confuses me about the endless parade of main characters, how Hasbro DO get it right with Transformers. Like, why get it right with one line and not the other?? I don't know a lot about TFs but I do know whenever I see them on the shelves, yeah there'll be at least one Optimus Prime, but there's also a good variety of characters. Can't remember the last time we had that with MLP.

Admittedly TF does have multiple different lines (Rescue Bots/Bayformers/etc) whereas MLP usually just has one main line, so it's not entirely a fair comparison I guess, but still... If they could just give that kind of character variety to MLP, that would be fantastic.

MLP does have sets,which I suppose could be a somewhat similar counterpart. Plus Transformers has new characters with the Fossilizers, which are dinosaur robots that you can pull apart and put together to make your own monsters. While it does stick to some of the popular dinosaur species, such as T-Rex and Triceratops. They aren't fossilized versions of Grimlock and Slag. They're their own thing, with their own names.



Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponyprincess2021 on June 09, 2021, 08:44:10 AM
I guess another unpopular opinion is that I actually like sunny’s design. I have seen her get a lot of hate and she’s one of my favorites so far.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 09, 2021, 09:01:03 AM
An unpopular opinion of mine, is that I like Izzy Moonbow and Zipp Storm the least. They have the worst human faces of the bunch.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 09, 2021, 12:08:17 PM
MLP does have sets,which I suppose could be a somewhat similar counterpart.

Sorry, I probably should have said "series" not "lines" before. I meant TF has multiple different shows etc to promote whereas MLP usually only has one at a time (except for EQG).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 09, 2021, 12:09:55 PM
MLP does have sets,which I suppose could be a somewhat similar counterpart.

Sorry, I probably should have said "series" not "lines" before. I meant TF has multiple different shows etc to promote whereas MLP usually only has one at a time (except for EQG).

I know what you meant.  ^.^
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaz on June 10, 2021, 01:44:48 AM
I think my latest unpopular opinion is that....if I had been a child when G4 was around, I would probably have happily bought multiple versions of the characters and not minded the lack of variety :blush:

Back when I was little, I collected beanie babies, and I was obsessed with Amber and Silver the cats. I ended up with about fifteen of each of them (I especially couldn't leave them behind if I saw them second-hand). They all looked slightly different, and I gave them all different names and personalities and accessories. I still have three of each of them on my shelves, because to me they're separate characters and I couldn't choose just one to display.

So if I had seen Applejack with sparkly hair, and Applejack with apples all over, and Applejack with a hairband, I would have been one happy child :) Still, as I have so often been informed, I am quite weird, and I don't suppose Hasbro intends to market towards small weirdos :lol: Bit of a niche market! But that's my confession for today: my name is Shaz, and I like repetition of my favourite things :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on June 10, 2021, 01:25:13 PM
So if I had seen Applejack with sparkly hair, and Applejack with apples all over, and Applejack with a hairband, I would have been one happy child :) Still, as I have so often been informed, I am quite weird, and I don't suppose Hasbro intends to market towards small weirdos :lol: Bit of a niche market! But that's my confession for today: my name is Shaz, and I like repetition of my favourite things :lol:

I really don't think it's as weird as you think. It's rather common for kids to do that with other cartoon driven kid's franchises such as Paw Patrol or Peppa Pig. Whether we like it or not what MLP is about has changed to be more cartoon driven (this actually dates back to G3.5 Core 7 and not G4 so don't blame FIM) than toy driven.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Itcheeee on June 11, 2021, 10:46:24 PM
G5 isn't MLP to me. Honestly, it's everything I don't like in a nutshell. First pony gen ever that I will buy none of it. If I didn't know it was G5 and was told it was some Disney pony thing I'd believe it 100%. The faces are especially outputting. I don't like the whole idea or characters. Would of prefered the leaked art of the revamped mane 6, with maybe some new green ponies or Minty too.
At least I can focus on the G1s through G4 things I'm missing now without much new G4 stuff (sadly)
In fact I appreciate G3's line a lot more and might expand that collection.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 12, 2021, 01:01:49 AM
So if I had seen Applejack with sparkly hair, and Applejack with apples all over, and Applejack with a hairband, I would have been one happy child :) Still, as I have so often been informed, I am quite weird, and I don't suppose Hasbro intends to market towards small weirdos :lol: Bit of a niche market! But that's my confession for today: my name is Shaz, and I like repetition of my favourite things :lol:

I really don't think it's as weird as you think. It's rather common for kids to do that with other cartoon driven kid's franchises such as Paw Patrol or Peppa Pig. Whether we like it or not what MLP is about has changed to be more cartoon driven (this actually dates back to G3.5 Core 7 and not G4 so don't blame FIM) than toy driven.

If it's not weird then I guess I'm the odd one...when I was a kid, I never liked/wanted doubles of anything. And when my sister had ponies, I wanted her to have different ones that I didn't have, because it meant more ponies overall xD. I was really annoyed that some of her second hand ponies overlapped mine, because it seemed like a missed opportunity ;)

When we started online trading, naynie and I drew up a list of who would have which pony, rather than each of us having all of them. While there are some ponies we do both have now, there are others she has which I've never cared about getting - not because I don't like them, but because she has them, so I feel like the box is ticked.

I think both kinds of kid probably exist, but at least in G1 you kind of had a choice whether you wanted multiple versions of, say, Posey, or whether you wanted to collect the different characters instead.

Even now I don't really do armies. Where I have multiple of a pony there's either a reason behind it or they're variations.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on June 12, 2021, 05:45:39 AM
G5 isn't MLP to me. Honestly, it's everything I don't like in a nutshell. First pony gen ever that I will buy none of it. If I didn't know it was G5 and was told it was some Disney pony thing I'd believe it 100%. The faces are especially outputting. I don't like the whole idea or characters. Would of prefered the leaked art of the revamped mane 6, with maybe some new green ponies or Minty too.
At least I can focus on the G1s through G4 things I'm missing now without much new G4 stuff (sadly)
In fact I appreciate G3's line a lot more and might expand that collection.

Same here, although I would personally extend it to G4 as well (maybe even later G3 with its horrors like newborn cuties, but I digress)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: fuzzysherbet on June 12, 2021, 07:25:24 AM
I don't know how unpopular this opinion is, but. I think the wings on the g5 art style are down there with the worst wings MLP has ever seen. It's like they wanted to have both stylised wings and realistic wings, but failed on both counts. Sure, g3 and g4 both had incredibly stylised wings, but at least they looked good; and the g4 wings in particular I think are the best MLP has ever seen, because they look appropriately flight capable for the also incredibly stylised creatures they were attached to!
An opinion I hold that I'm sure will be much more unpopular than the first one, is that g1 has the absolute worst wings MLP has ever seen. Worse than g5 wings. I am sorry, but they don't even look remotely like wings. More like corn cobs. I'm glad the toys got past that particular design characteristic...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 12, 2021, 08:34:07 AM
wouldn't say g1 is the worst, because i grew up with it, and am used to it. But they definitely look like corn on the cob. That really hit home when my parents bought me Dancing Butterflies.  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on June 12, 2021, 08:39:12 AM
So if I had seen Applejack with sparkly hair, and Applejack with apples all over, and Applejack with a hairband, I would have been one happy child :) Still, as I have so often been informed, I am quite weird, and I don't suppose Hasbro intends to market towards small weirdos :lol: Bit of a niche market! But that's my confession for today: my name is Shaz, and I like repetition of my favourite things :lol:

I really don't think it's as weird as you think. It's rather common for kids to do that with other cartoon driven kid's franchises such as Paw Patrol or Peppa Pig. Whether we like it or not what MLP is about has changed to be more cartoon driven (this actually dates back to G3.5 Core 7 and not G4 so don't blame FIM) than toy driven.

If it's not weird then I guess I'm the odd one...when I was a kid, I never liked/wanted doubles of anything. And when my sister had ponies, I wanted her to have different ones that I didn't have, because it meant more ponies overall xD. I was really annoyed that some of her second hand ponies overlapped mine, because it seemed like a missed opportunity ;)

When we started online trading, naynie and I drew up a list of who would have which pony, rather than each of us having all of them. While there are some ponies we do both have now, there are others she has which I've never cared about getting - not because I don't like them, but because she has them, so I feel like the box is ticked.

I think both kinds of kid probably exist, but at least in G1 you kind of had a choice whether you wanted multiple versions of, say, Posey, or whether you wanted to collect the different characters instead.

Even now I don't really do armies. Where I have multiple of a pony there's either a reason behind it or they're variations.

Oh I didn't mean the other way around was unusual. I know plenty of brands exist even today that count on kids wanting to "catch em all" like LOL Surprise. I'm just saying that both are normal, and sometimes even the same kid will do both depending on the franchise.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: yourpinkoverlord on June 12, 2021, 03:11:38 PM
The comments above is the most nuanced discussion I have seen about pony rereleases in my, admittedly, very short time on MLPArena. Bit of a breath of fresh air tbh.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 12, 2021, 04:16:59 PM
The comments above is the most nuanced discussion I have seen about pony rereleases in my, admittedly, very short time on MLPArena. Bit of a breath of fresh air tbh.

Aloha chiquorita banana! Nice to see you on the arena!  :hiya:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: yourpinkoverlord on June 12, 2021, 04:21:39 PM
Aloha chiquorita banana! Nice to see you on the arena!  :hiya:

Hi there Whisper! Probably not going to be super active on here (a little overwhelming) but I...exist! Haha.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 12, 2021, 04:47:24 PM
Aloha chiquorita banana! Nice to see you on the arena!  :hiya:

Hi there Whisper! Probably not going to be super active on here (a little overwhelming) but I...exist! Haha.

Do you exist? And if so, on what plane of existence? Are there many of you? Or are you, only you? Deep stuff to contemplate.   :wonder: :silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: yourpinkoverlord on June 12, 2021, 06:20:33 PM

Do you exist? And if so, on what plane of existence? Are there many of you? Or are you, only you? Deep stuff to contemplate.   :wonder: :silly:

 :freak:  :drunk:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 14, 2021, 09:04:38 AM
Aloha chiquorita banana! Nice to see you on the arena!  :hiya:

Hi there Whisper! Probably not going to be super active on here (a little overwhelming) but I...exist! Haha.

Do you exist? And if so, on what plane of existence? Are there many of you? Or are you, only you? Deep stuff to contemplate.   :wonder: :silly:

It's all good so long as there are cookies.

...Are there cookies?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 14, 2021, 05:07:12 PM
Aloha chiquorita banana! Nice to see you on the arena!  :hiya:

Hi there Whisper! Probably not going to be super active on here (a little overwhelming) but I...exist! Haha.

Do you exist? And if so, on what plane of existence? Are there many of you? Or are you, only you? Deep stuff to contemplate.   :wonder: :silly:

It's all good so long as there are cookies.

...Are there cookies?

On this plane? Yes. On all planes? That's for the boldest of the bold to discover.  Are you ready to find those cookies?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 15, 2021, 10:46:51 AM
Aloha chiquorita banana! Nice to see you on the arena!  :hiya:

Hi there Whisper! Probably not going to be super active on here (a little overwhelming) but I...exist! Haha.

Do you exist? And if so, on what plane of existence? Are there many of you? Or are you, only you? Deep stuff to contemplate.   :wonder: :silly:

It's all good so long as there are cookies.

...Are there cookies?

On this plane? Yes. On all planes? That's for the boldest of the bold to discover.  Are you ready to find those cookies?

I didn't know we were on a plane. Do I need my passport?? (runs away)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 15, 2021, 02:59:48 PM
Aloha chiquorita banana! Nice to see you on the arena!  :hiya:

Hi there Whisper! Probably not going to be super active on here (a little overwhelming) but I...exist! Haha.

Do you exist? And if so, on what plane of existence? Are there many of you? Or are you, only you? Deep stuff to contemplate.   :wonder: :silly:

It's all good so long as there are cookies.

...Are there cookies?

On this plane? Yes. On all planes? That's for the boldest of the bold to discover.  Are you ready to find those cookies?

I didn't know we were on a plane. Do I need my passport?? (runs away)

 :relaxed: :whoa: :choc:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: sunshinedim on June 16, 2021, 12:22:07 PM
I don't know how unpopular this opinion is... but G4 ponies had the least appealing designs out of all the generations. I didn't like how they looked both as toys and in the animated cartoon. They barely looked like horses. G5 designs are an improvement in my opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on June 16, 2021, 07:41:15 PM
I don't know how unpopular this opinion is... but G4 ponies had the least appealing designs out of all the generations. I didn't like how they looked both as toys and in the animated cartoon. They barely looked like horses. G5 designs are an improvement in my opinion.

I think G4 ponies look cute, but I do think G5s look more like horses for sure. The faces are on about the same level of non-horsiness to me, but the G5 bodies absolutely are more horsey.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 18, 2021, 06:21:18 AM
G5 isn't MLP to me. Honestly, it's everything I don't like in a nutshell. First pony gen ever that I will buy none of it. If I didn't know it was G5 and was told it was some Disney pony thing I'd believe it 100%. The faces are especially outputting. I don't like the whole idea or characters. Would of prefered the leaked art of the revamped mane 6, with maybe some new green ponies or Minty too.
At least I can focus on the G1s through G4 things I'm missing now without much new G4 stuff (sadly)
In fact I appreciate G3's line a lot more and might expand that collection.

Wouldn't call it an unpopular opinion. A lot of people seem to be having a mixed reaction  about it, as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: bladed on June 18, 2021, 10:38:36 AM
as a kid, i had a few duplicates and was absolutely willing to play with them (usually going the sisters/twins route, i think there was an evil clone plot one time though :P) so many g3 pinkies lol.

i said it in the g5 toys thread but i think pipp's wings are super cute and it makes me think they might introduce a few different styles of wings? i do like that as a design choice even if the novelty toys don't always work as well (poor, poor flutter ponies)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 18, 2021, 12:09:35 PM
as a kid, i had a few duplicates and was absolutely willing to play with them (usually going the sisters/twins route, i think there was an evil clone plot one time though :P) so many g3 pinkies lol.

i said it in the g5 toys thread but i think pipp's wings are super cute and it makes me think they might introduce a few different styles of wings? i do like that as a design choice even if the novelty toys don't always work as well (poor, poor flutter ponies)

Pipp's toy wings are very cute.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: InkyMilk on June 18, 2021, 03:25:34 PM
G5 isn't MLP to me. Honestly, it's everything I don't like in a nutshell. First pony gen ever that I will buy none of it. If I didn't know it was G5 and was told it was some Disney pony thing I'd believe it 100%. The faces are especially outputting. I don't like the whole idea or characters. Would of prefered the leaked art of the revamped mane 6, with maybe some new green ponies or Minty too.
At least I can focus on the G1s through G4 things I'm missing now without much new G4 stuff (sadly)
In fact I appreciate G3's line a lot more and might expand that collection.

Wouldn't call it an unpopular opinion. A lot of people seem to be having a mixed reaction  about it, as far as I can tell.

I actually wonder if my opinion is a little more unpopular.....I LOVE the look of G5!!!!  :lovey: I know people are really disliking their "Elsa" looking faces, but I think they're all SO unbelievably cute, including Hitch (who I don't think looks like a smug jerk at all). I know that if I were a kid, I would have been all over these ponies, and I think their animation looks really top-notch from what we've seen. I am wary of the toys because we've been seeing a lot of molded hair which I personally hate, but otherwise I still think their actual designs are pretty darn adorable. It's sad to me to see how much negativity this new gen has been receiving from the get-go, especially when I genuinely think they are SO DARN CUTE!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 19, 2021, 04:13:10 PM
It's sad to me to see how much negativity this new gen has been receiving from the get-go, especially when I genuinely think they are SO DARN CUTE!

TBH, I haven't seen it as negativity really...in context with the way G2 was greeted, it's literally nothing at all. I think most people are quite on the fence about it and those who aren't so keen are more just neutral about it, there's not been (as far as I have seen) a lot of massively ranty posts on the subject.

Pony Life also had a much more vicious reception. And actually, I think G4 in its latter days has had a lot more mud thrown at it for repetitive toys and so on.

Most of the conversation I've seen on G5 has been extremely mild.

...But it's all relative compared to G2.

And of course, there's nothing at all amiss with finding G5 cute :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on June 19, 2021, 04:56:10 PM
I really like the G5 animation and I think the ponies look fine in it. I'm looking forward to the movie. The toys are another story, imo. It's been brought up before; the flat faces, the long necks, the hair only on the top of the head, etc. I will still collect Sunny and Hitch figures (if they can decide on a body color for Hitch. Is he orange, yellow, what?).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 19, 2021, 05:20:39 PM
I really like the G5 animation and I think the ponies look fine in it. I'm looking forward to the movie. The toys are another story, imo. It's been brought up before; the flat faces, the long necks, the hair only on the top of the head, etc. I will still collect Sunny and Hitch figures (if they can decide on a body color for Hitch. Is he orange, yellow, what?).

He's velveeta.  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 20, 2021, 07:06:58 AM
Yeah honestly I think people have been pretty chill about G5 so far, definitely compared to how things were when Pony Life/G4.5 was revealed.. or Equestria Girls... pretty sure I recall the Movie G4s having a frostier reception than G5's getting, too. :P So far it seems like most of us here either LOVE G5 or are just kind of neutral to it, I've seen some "ugh yeah these aren't for me"-type posts but I don't remember seeing any huge super-angry rants about G5.

Of course idk how people are reacting to them in other communities, that's just my perspective of how things are here on the Arena.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 20, 2021, 07:13:45 AM
Yeah honestly I think people have been pretty chill about G5 so far, definitely compared to how things were when Pony Life/G4.5 was revealed.. or Equestria Girls... pretty sure I recall the Movie G4s having a frostier reception than G5's getting, too. :P So far it seems like most of us here either LOVE G5 or are just kind of neutral to it, I've seen some "ugh yeah these aren't for me"-type posts but I don't remember seeing any huge super-angry rants about G5.

Of course idk how people are reacting to them in other communities, that's just my perspective of how things are here on the Arena.

On the MLPTP the reactions are more or less  the same.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on June 20, 2021, 07:31:21 AM
Yeah here the reception overall is pretty neutral and people who dislike it are chill about it.

Now on Hasbro's social media accounts, on the other hand.... people who dislike it are uh. Very loud and annoying about voicing their negative opinions every time Hasbro makes a new post. At least on Instagram they are, not sure about elsewhere but I'd imagine it's similar. I think it's mostly children who grew up with G4 being very hostile to G5 on Insta.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on June 20, 2021, 10:38:11 AM
Now on Hasbro's social media accounts, on the other hand.... people who dislike it are uh. Very loud and annoying about voicing their negative opinions every time Hasbro makes a new post. At least on Instagram they are, not sure about elsewhere but I'd imagine it's similar. I think it's mostly children who grew up with G4 being very hostile to G5 on Insta.
I used to keep comment notifs on my G5MLP IG account so I could answer questions but now I've just taken to totally ignoring comments. It's exhausting to read!

I'm seeing a mix of excitement and disdain.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on June 20, 2021, 10:48:11 AM
Yeah here the reception overall is pretty neutral and people who dislike it are chill about it.

Now on Hasbro's social media accounts, on the other hand.... people who dislike it are uh. Very loud and annoying about voicing their negative opinions every time Hasbro makes a new post. At least on Instagram they are, not sure about elsewhere but I'd imagine it's similar. I think it's mostly children who grew up with G4 being very hostile to G5 on Insta.

That sounds similar to what happened with LPS. When Hasbro drastically redesigned LPS in the 2000s it gained a new fandom. These kids got attached to them and some to this day still collect and customize and make stop motion animations on YouTube with them. When Hasbro redesigned LPS yet again they didn't take it well and started posting on every LPS related post Hasbro made to "bring back G1" or "bring back old LPS".

For some reason fans of Hasbro's LPS don't count the 90s Kenner line as G1 and it kills me. They tend to act like it doesn't even exist while people who are fans of the 90s LPS call it "vintage LPS" or "Kenner LPS".
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: sunshinedim on June 20, 2021, 12:58:03 PM
It's sad to me to see how much negativity this new gen has been receiving from the get-go, especially when I genuinely think they are SO DARN CUTE!

TBH, I haven't seen it as negativity really...in context with the way G2 was greeted, it's literally nothing at all. I think most people are quite on the fence about it and those who aren't so keen are more just neutral about it, there's not been (as far as I have seen) a lot of massively ranty posts on the subject.

Pony Life also had a much more vicious reception. And actually, I think G4 in its latter days has had a lot more mud thrown at it for repetitive toys and so on.

Most of the conversation I've seen on G5 has been extremely mild.

...But it's all relative compared to G2.

And of course, there's nothing at all amiss with finding G5 cute :)

I wasn't online when G2 started and I wasn't in a MLP community at all actually..... so I am curious... why was G2 disliked by fans?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on June 20, 2021, 01:07:39 PM
People didn’t like G2 because it was the first time they’d ever been rebooted.  They looked drastically different, lived in a different world and so on.  I was ok with them but I would have much preferred staying with the original ponies.  It was a sad time.

However, once I was able to get a complete DVD set of the G1 cartoons, I was much happier.  I love our modern world.  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: sunshinedim on June 20, 2021, 01:19:28 PM
People didn’t like G2 because it was the first time they’d ever been rebooted.  They looked drastically different, lived in a different world and so on.  I was ok with them but I would have much preferred staying with the original ponies.  It was a sad time.

However, once I was able to get a complete DVD set of the G1 cartoons, I was much happier.  I love our modern world.  :lol:

I see, was G3 liked more by fans of G1?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on June 20, 2021, 02:46:16 PM
People didn’t like G2 because it was the first time they’d ever been rebooted.  They looked drastically different, lived in a different world and so on.  I was ok with them but I would have much preferred staying with the original ponies.  It was a sad time.

However, once I was able to get a complete DVD set of the G1 cartoons, I was much happier.  I love our modern world.  :lol:

I see, was G3 liked more by fans of G1?

Also judging by the timeline, many G1 fans would have been entering their teens when G2 came out. I dunno about you but it seems to me that teens can often be a little bit extreme with being opinionated.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 20, 2021, 05:00:40 PM
People didn’t like G2 because it was the first time they’d ever been rebooted.  They looked drastically different, lived in a different world and so on.  I was ok with them but I would have much preferred staying with the original ponies.  It was a sad time.

However, once I was able to get a complete DVD set of the G1 cartoons, I was much happier.  I love our modern world.  :lol:

I see, was G3 liked more by fans of G1?

Yes, G3s were very popular with kids and collectors alike
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: sunshinedim on June 21, 2021, 02:09:39 AM
People didn’t like G2 because it was the first time they’d ever been rebooted.  They looked drastically different, lived in a different world and so on.  I was ok with them but I would have much preferred staying with the original ponies.  It was a sad time.

However, once I was able to get a complete DVD set of the G1 cartoons, I was much happier.  I love our modern world.  :lol:

I see, was G3 liked more by fans of G1?

Yes, G3s were very popular with kids and collectors alike

I understand! I was a kid when G3s were in stores and I loved them too! To me they didn't look that drastically different from the ponies in the G1 cartoons that I saw. I still see G1 and G3 as being very similar..... the biggest difference was that G1 had more unicorns and pegasi while G3 had mostly earth ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ridi on June 21, 2021, 09:45:20 AM
I actually wonder if my opinion is a little more unpopular.....I LOVE the look of G5!!!!  :lovey: I know people are really disliking their "Elsa" looking faces, but I think they're all SO unbelievably cute, including Hitch (who I don't think looks like a smug jerk at all). I know that if I were a kid, I would have been all over these ponies, and I think their animation looks really top-notch from what we've seen. I am wary of the toys because we've been seeing a lot of molded hair which I personally hate, but otherwise I still think their actual designs are pretty darn adorable. It's sad to me to see how much negativity this new gen has been receiving from the get-go, especially when I genuinely think they are SO DARN CUTE!

I'm wary towards G5 myself so far, but I love seeing other people excited for it! I'm really happy for you  :lovey:

On the subject of G2, I was the target audience still in elementary school when it first came out, and I was heartbroken my old ponies were gone. I completely lost interest in new ponies when G1 were removed from the shelves.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 21, 2021, 11:18:03 AM
I'm very ambivalent about the new cross gen  pony comics, considering Hasbro's track record of treating its past iterations badly, to entertain the toxic sub-fandom.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on June 21, 2021, 12:30:25 PM
Yeah that's what's got me worried, too. I guess I'm not opposed to the idea of an official G1/G4 crossover *in general*, but, I dunno, I just have a bad feeling about it for some reason. Can't quite put my finger on it, exactly. Hopefully my gut instinct is just off.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 21, 2021, 12:35:24 PM
Yeah that's what's got me worried, too. I guess I'm not opposed to the idea of an official G1/G4 crossover *in general*, but, I dunno, I just have a bad feeling about it for some reason. Can't quite put my finger on it, exactly. Hopefully my gut instinct is just off.

Tbh, I think I'd much rather have a crossover between any of  the other 3 generations.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 21, 2021, 01:17:26 PM
People didn’t like G2 because it was the first time they’d ever been rebooted.  They looked drastically different, lived in a different world and so on.  I was ok with them but I would have much preferred staying with the original ponies.  It was a sad time.

However, once I was able to get a complete DVD set of the G1 cartoons, I was much happier.  I love our modern world.  :lol:

I see, was G3 liked more by fans of G1?

Also judging by the timeline, many G1 fans would have been entering their teens when G2 came out. I dunno about you but it seems to me that teens can often be a little bit extreme with being opinionated.

This is also very true. We were all very young (now we're all ancient and don't care any more xD) and there were a lot of opinions and emotions flying. It was also the first new generation so we weren't used to it. The ponies then were just termed old ponies and new ponies, but there were...let's say split opinions which kind of became factions which kind of became a bit...hostile towards one another and yeah, stuff occurred. I think we'll leave it there. A sad time is definitely a good way to put it.

But G3 was universally welcomed. A lot of people were really relieved that it was more like G1, and everything kind of calmed down with G3 because nobody wanted to repeat what happened with G2.

G2 are now recognised and respected though so it all ended fine.

I think the same problems exist with the same demographic with G4 and some of the anti-G1 sentiment.

On the cross-gen - is that actually a thing that's going to happen?

I'm not really pro cross-gen outside of fanfic, honestly...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ridi on June 21, 2021, 01:21:15 PM
I'm very ambivalent about the new cross gen  pony comics, considering Hasbro's track record of treating its past iterations badly, to entertain the toxic sub-fandom.

Yeah MTE. I've pretty much accepted G4 as being a br*ny-catered generation and I REALLY don't want them to bring G1 into the picture :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on June 21, 2021, 01:31:56 PM
People didn’t like G2 because it was the first time they’d ever been rebooted.  They looked drastically different, lived in a different world and so on.  I was ok with them but I would have much preferred staying with the original ponies.  It was a sad time.

However, once I was able to get a complete DVD set of the G1 cartoons, I was much happier.  I love our modern world.  :lol:

I see, was G3 liked more by fans of G1?

Also judging by the timeline, many G1 fans would have been entering their teens when G2 came out. I dunno about you but it seems to me that teens can often be a little bit extreme with being opinionated.

This is also very true. We were all very young (now we're all ancient and don't care any more xD) and there were a lot of opinions and emotions flying. It was also the first new generation so we weren't used to it. The ponies then were just termed old ponies and new ponies, but there were...let's say split opinions which kind of became factions which kind of became a bit...hostile towards one another and yeah, stuff occurred. I think we'll leave it there. A sad time is definitely a good way to put it.

But G3 was universally welcomed. A lot of people were really relieved that it was more like G1, and everything kind of calmed down with G3 because nobody wanted to repeat what happened with G2.

G2 are now recognised and respected though so it all ended fine.

I think the same problems exist with the same demographic with G4 and some of the anti-G1 sentiment.

Well you have 2 different segments to the G4 fandom. There's the bronies who were mostly teens and young adults when G4 came out. They kinda mellowed out a bit and many actually moved on to other things. Then there's the actual kids who G4 was for who are just entering their teens. They actually have fond memories of Equestria Girls and are the ones who are reacting strongly to the news about G5. (much like LPS fans with the vintage 90s line, I think G1 isn't even on their radar)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 21, 2021, 02:11:59 PM
People didn’t like G2 because it was the first time they’d ever been rebooted.  They looked drastically different, lived in a different world and so on.  I was ok with them but I would have much preferred staying with the original ponies.  It was a sad time.

However, once I was able to get a complete DVD set of the G1 cartoons, I was much happier.  I love our modern world.  :lol:

I see, was G3 liked more by fans of G1?

Also judging by the timeline, many G1 fans would have been entering their teens when G2 came out. I dunno about you but it seems to me that teens can often be a little bit extreme with being opinionated.

This is also very true. We were all very young (now we're all ancient and don't care any more xD) and there were a lot of opinions and emotions flying. It was also the first new generation so we weren't used to it. The ponies then were just termed old ponies and new ponies, but there were...let's say split opinions which kind of became factions which kind of became a bit...hostile towards one another and yeah, stuff occurred. I think we'll leave it there. A sad time is definitely a good way to put it.

But G3 was universally welcomed. A lot of people were really relieved that it was more like G1, and everything kind of calmed down with G3 because nobody wanted to repeat what happened with G2.

G2 are now recognised and respected though so it all ended fine.

I think the same problems exist with the same demographic with G4 and some of the anti-G1 sentiment.

Well you have 2 different segments to the G4 fandom. There's the bronies who were mostly teens and young adults when G4 came out. They kinda mellowed out a bit and many actually moved on to other things. Then there's the actual kids who G4 was for who are just entering their teens. They actually have fond memories of Equestria Girls and are the ones who are reacting strongly to the news about G5. (much like LPS fans with the vintage 90s line, I think G1 isn't even on their radar)

Three really. There are the crazy bronies as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TwilightStarshine on June 26, 2021, 11:27:28 AM
Yeah here the reception overall is pretty neutral and people who dislike it are chill about it.

Now on Hasbro's social media accounts, on the other hand.... people who dislike it are uh. Very loud and annoying about voicing their negative opinions every time Hasbro makes a new post. At least on Instagram they are, not sure about elsewhere but I'd imagine it's similar. I think it's mostly children who grew up with G4 being very hostile to G5 on Insta.

Some people have way too much time on their hands. :P Unfortunately, trolls will resurface every time a new generation is released but I agree it is not quite as bad as the G2 bashing back in the day. I fondly remember the tripod and geocities websites and their G2 mocking. Some of the content was rather funny, actually. I might have saved some of the pictures on the odd external harddisk. (A pony bearing a chainsaw and a bloody symbol comes to mind...) But make no mistake- people thoroughly hated* G2. G3 was warmly welcomed by children and collectors, but the third gen is often criticised and hated* by G4 fans/bronies.

My unpopular opinion is that I like ponies just for being ponies. I generally welcome all gens. People have often made me feel that that's not enough, and that I should have preferences. I do not dedicate myself to one gen or the other. I never did, and I do not believe I ever will. That does not imply I do not have opinions. I just do not like to exclude ponies based on a gen alone.

* 'Hated' as in 'I am convinced they would have quite literally melted them all if they had been given the chance'... :lookround:)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: sunshinedim on June 26, 2021, 12:09:36 PM
Thinking about it now it seems very odd to hear about how much fans hated g2... they look just as cute as G1 ponies to me.... Sure they were smaller and thinner but so were the flutter ponies and the sweeheart sisters from G1. This wasn't the first time people saw smaller, skinnier ponies.

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Like I fail to see how... the sweetheart sisters were drastically different from g2 ponies. To me they looked similar (and both were very cute).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on June 26, 2021, 01:26:26 PM
Not everyone hated G2, but there was militancy on both sides that saw to people on both sides being driven out of the community by some of the stuff that happened.

I don't really remember it fondly :/ I'm glad it ended.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Star-Watcher on June 26, 2021, 01:53:27 PM
Ones I can think of...

1:  I actually like Danny and would have loved to see him arrive in Equestria (perhaps hanging out with Zecora for a bit before continuing to find the old Dream Valley).  Note to self, make a 1/6 scale Danny action figure soon...

2:  The Sweetheart Sisters are quite pretty.

3:  Princess Royal Pink and Princess Royal Purple are just drop dead gorgeous.

That is all for now.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on June 27, 2021, 04:45:00 AM
Ones I can think of...

1:  I actually like Danny and would have loved to see him arrive in Equestria (perhaps hanging out with Zecora for a bit before continuing to find the old Dream Valley).  Note to self, make a 1/6 scale Danny action figure soon...

2:  The Sweetheart Sisters are quite pretty.

3:  Princess Royal Pink and Princess Royal Purple are just drop dead gorgeous.

That is all for now.
I too would love a Custom poseable Danny doll
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 27, 2021, 07:06:03 AM
Thinking about it now it seems very odd to hear about how much fans hated g2... they look just as cute as G1 ponies to me.... Sure they were smaller and thinner but so were the flutter ponies and the sweeheart sisters from G1. This wasn't the first time people saw smaller, skinnier ponies.

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Like I fail to see how... the sweetheart sisters were drastically different from g2 ponies. To me they looked similar (and both were very cute).

 SHS have more defined faces and delicate heads,, while G2s have smoother, unfinished ones with round, lumpy muzzles.

G2s have more detailed legs, and shorter backs. While SHS have longer backs, and the the typical elephant pillar legs that's come to be associated with the brand.

I wasn't too sure about my Wildflower as a child. I remember thinking she looked strange compared to my other ponies. I do need to get her back into my collection however.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on June 29, 2021, 02:06:40 PM
To me, the Sweetheart Sisters and G2 generation look drastically different.  If I didn't know that G2 was My Little Pony, I would have thought they were fakies.  I think its the refined faces that make the sisters look like G1.

I do like G2.  The jewel eyes and accessories were amazing.  The hair was also nice. If they had made them look like Sweetheart sisters, I would have collected them all.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on July 08, 2021, 07:11:01 AM
I like the generation 3 cartoons they are not Oscar worthy but its fun

I wish we had a gen 2 cartoon

tales is really funny

I really want another line of pony friends
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on July 08, 2021, 11:09:46 AM
I liked G3 cartoons too, not anywhere as much as anything G1 but some of them were nice, especially the ones featuring Minty, Pinkie Pie or Thistle Whistle.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 09, 2021, 01:12:30 PM
I think the original sitting pose is much better then the G4 and G5 sitting pose.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on July 11, 2021, 01:11:11 PM
I am so far not a huge fan of gen 5.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on July 11, 2021, 02:19:40 PM
G1 prices are too dang high!

...that might not be an unpopular opinion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on July 11, 2021, 02:38:14 PM
Way too high for my taste I want the market to crash.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on July 11, 2021, 04:33:24 PM
Re the cartoons: I definitely liked the G3 cartoons the best.  Please don't get me wrong, I love G1 and have nostalgia and sentiment for it, but... I don't think I ever got that emotionally involved in it, like had tears in my eyes during it, like I did G3 (and yes, G4, but please don't take this the wrong way.)

I'm not saying being emotional is the be all and end all with shows, but I'm not really sure I got that with G1, however much I loved it - though I still gave some sympathetic "awww"s to the characters, but with G3 and some of G4, I end up getting fully emotional, whether it was feeling sad for the characters, or simply having tears in my eyes for beautiful moments.

I wouldn't be surprised that, if I thought about it, I would find scenes like this for the G1 cartoons too, because I love them, and I have nostalgia for them, and they are just as important to me as the other generations, but I remember the emotion I got for the G3 and G4 cartoons first, but either way, that doesn't make G1 any less awesome.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 11, 2021, 05:28:12 PM
G1 prices are too dang high!

...that might not be an unpopular opinion.

Totally not unpopular. But I echo your sentiment.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Snapdragon on July 12, 2021, 05:16:27 PM
G1 prices are too dang high!

...that might not be an unpopular opinion.

Not unpopular if you have a lot of ponies to unload! :lmao: It's a great time to be getting OUT of pony collecting, haha! For the rest of us ... not so much. :blush:

I've been trying to keep my focus on restoring what I have, but ooh it's hard!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 25, 2021, 07:58:51 AM
Not sure if this is unpopular,  but the Zipp Storm hair-do is both fugly and ridiculous looking.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: rearing_palomino164 on July 25, 2021, 09:34:34 AM
I do not like the new generation of ponies. I have been disappointed in all of the recent generations. I haven't collected ponies since gen3.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Itcheeee on July 25, 2021, 10:15:28 AM
I'm both disappointed and interested in G5. I won't be buying any of the merch or watching it. It's just everything I don't like in a nutshell, I don't like 3D things at all especially when they look so Disney. I'm taking the time to focus on collecting and re-watching/reading all G1 through G4 have to offer. Truly makes me miss G3 honestly.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 25, 2021, 10:49:11 AM
I miss when G3 was in stores too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Orangei on July 25, 2021, 11:29:03 AM
I must admit, G5 is disappointing me, as well. I think Hasbro is forgetting about what makes MLP such a core evergreen toy brand and trying to make the toys fit content too much (which I didn't think could happen/I didn't think I would dislike). The core pony characters with no rooted hair really did it for me. Not gonna lie, I was a little mad. Why remove brushable hair?? This was SUCH a core play pattern in the toys which made MLP so great. Understanding that its more expensive to make a toy now than it was in 2003, but geez, we can really tell where the budget is going.
I do wish MLP would take their learnings from how successful G1 & G3 was. I SO miss G3, there was a charm about it that just didn't need all the extra content, and when it did have content, it was just the right amount, that it still lead to open-ended, imaginative play that you can continue with the ponies. Also variety is a big selling point for me too, but that might just be because I love collecting cute things :)

Anyway, thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 25, 2021, 11:43:36 AM
I must admit, G5 is disappointing me, as well. I think Hasbro is forgetting about what makes MLP such a core evergreen toy brand and trying to make the toys fit content too much (which I didn't think could happen/I didn't think I would dislike). The core pony characters with no rooted hair really did it for me. Not gonna lie, I was a little mad. Why remove brushable hair?? This was SUCH a core play pattern in the toys which made MLP so great. Understanding that its more expensive to make a toy now than it was in 2003, but geez, we can really tell where the budget is going.
I do wish MLP would take their learnings from how successful G1 & G3 was. I SO miss G3, there was a charm about it that just didn't need all the extra content, and when it did have content, it was just the right amount, that it still lead to open-ended, imaginative play that you can continue with the ponies. Also variety is a big selling point for me too, but that might just be because I love collecting cute things :)

Anyway, thanks for coming to my Ted talk.


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 25, 2021, 11:56:56 AM
I do like how G5s look, I think it's an improvement over G4's designs, they look a bit more horsey to me. But so far I am definitely disappointed in how Hasbro are going about it like everyone else here basically. I'm definitely going to buy some, but I'm really only interested in the brushables, both normal and styling size. I have like. No desire to buy the molded hair line. It's a shame that we're seeing such a large amount of those compared to brushables. And so far our only non-Mane 5 ponies are molded hair ones from the set revealed yesterday.

I'm gonna buy G5s but so far it seems like I won't be getting very many. So many of them are molded hair. Not to mention giving Hitch molded hair in sets where everybody else has synthetic hair.  :huh:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 25, 2021, 12:52:41 PM
Moulded hair = fail to me too.

No brushy, no point. Basically...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponyprincess2021 on July 25, 2021, 02:18:54 PM
Am I the only one who wants to kind of give g5 a chance. Even though it does have issues I don’t expect it to be perfect. I wouldn’t just completely avoid it just because there’s things I don’t like about it. I’m trying to give it hope because it’s still very new and I can’t really have an opinion off of it until I see more. I like the 3d style and even though it’s different the animation style doesn’t really bother me and besides most of the toys not having brushable hair I’m starting to like them a lot more.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Orangei on July 25, 2021, 02:27:18 PM
Moulded hair = fail to me too.

No brushy, no point. Basically...

AGREED!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shaiyeh on July 25, 2021, 03:07:18 PM
Am I the only one who wants to kind of give g5 a chance. Even though it does have issues I don’t expect it to be perfect. I wouldn’t just completely avoid it just because there’s things I don’t like about it. I’m trying to give it hope because it’s still very new and I can’t really have an opinion off of it until I see more. I like the 3d style and even though it’s different the animation style doesn’t really bother me and besides most of the toys not having brushable hair I’m starting to like them a lot more.

No, I agree! I still think it's too early to tell if we're going to have mostly/too much molded hair, or if it's going to be good or bad. I'm 100% looking forward to seeing what comes out. I'm even impressed with the molded hair ponies ( - as a person who is NOT into molded hair ponies). we still don't know really if most of the toys will or won't have molded hair. most of the leaks, or what we've seen come out so far maybe, but maybe they have a lot else to be released.
I'll join the disappointed crew if it turns out g5 is going to be mostly molded hair, once g5 has been "live" for a few months. (I'm still counting what's come out as "pre'g5" really, it's supposed to be autumn, right?)

then again, I've got a lot of hope (and bias), because I actually really like these, and I spent the past 10 years not really into current ponies until PL hit the shelves. so I'm clinging to wanting to give g5 a chance. ^^'
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 25, 2021, 03:07:59 PM
Am I the only one who wants to kind of give g5 a chance. Even though it does have issues I don’t expect it to be perfect. I wouldn’t just completely avoid it just because there’s things I don’t like about it. I’m trying to give it hope because it’s still very new and I can’t really have an opinion off of it until I see more. I like the 3d style and even though it’s different the animation style doesn’t really bother me and besides most of the toys not having brushable hair I’m starting to like them a lot more.

No. I'm gonna give it a chance,  they're just not high priority pony purchases. Although I'm not loving the weird faces,  boring poses and lack of quality nylon hair. I do love the pegasus' colorful  sculpted wings.  Just waiting on that 9 pack and...brushy tailed Trailblazer. I'll snip it out,  and stuff some gradient dyed nylon in his tail, so I don't hafta cry over  hair rot later. Its a shame, I would have liked Charms Izzy Moonbow.  She's kinda cute in person.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on July 25, 2021, 04:02:47 PM
I have both the 3-inch brushables in my hand as well as the Crystal Adventure molded releases. My hierarchy of preference is the 6-inchers > Crystal Adventure > 3-inchers.
There's a bit more detail and differentiation in the molded figures that I can't fathom why they wouldn't just keep the same models for the brushable figures, and the slight differences make me prefer the molded ones.
But at the same time, the 6-inch ponies really feel true to what MLP is about; there's a lot of hair play focus, the hair is lovely and soft, and they're large enough for children to deal with properly. I really hope they stick with having 6-inch figures as a main point.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 25, 2021, 04:08:55 PM
Am I the only one who wants to kind of give g5 a chance. Even though it does have issues I don’t expect it to be perfect. I wouldn’t just completely avoid it just because there’s things I don’t like about it. I’m trying to give it hope because it’s still very new and I can’t really have an opinion off of it until I see more. I like the 3d style and even though it’s different the animation style doesn’t really bother me and besides most of the toys not having brushable hair I’m starting to like them a lot more.

No. I'm gonna give it a chance,  they're just not high priority pony purchases. Although I'm not loving the weird faces,  boring poses and lack of quality nylon hair. I do love the pegasus' colorful  sculpted wings.  Just waiting on that 9 pack and...brushy tailed Trailblazer. I'll snip it out,  and stuff some gradient dyed nylon in his tail, so I don't hafta cry over  hair rot later. Its a shame, I would have liked Charms Izzy Moonbow.  She's kinda cute in person.

I don't think there's any problem giving it a chance, or liking it, or loving it. It seems an uncontroversial toyline, in the sense that it's not dramatically changing anything or stepping on any toes, or thus far inspiring people to behave like idiots. And if the kids love it, then that's all that matters really. I mean, it's great to think we might have a toy line where people either buy or don't buy and there's no haze of angst over having different opinions...I'm crossing my fingers.

I'm reserving judgement on the brushies till I see them, but frankly, I feel like that about all gens, not just G5 ;) My general pony philosophy is no brushy, no point ;) One reason I never got all that enthusiastic about Mummy Charms...

I hope that G5 isn't going to go too much in that direction. I really have no other strong opinion on G5 except that singing plush is one of the scariest things I've seen in a while, toywise.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on July 25, 2021, 04:27:24 PM
Moulded hair = fail to me too.

No brushy, no point. Basically...

Indeed! 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on July 26, 2021, 06:26:08 PM
I think... maybe brushable hair is more important to me as an adult than it was to me as a child. 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on July 27, 2021, 05:13:51 PM
Brushable hair ALWAYS mattered to me. When I was a child I'd often be found grooming my Ponies to calm myself
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on July 28, 2021, 07:42:49 AM
Brushable hair ALWAYS mattered to me. When I was a child I'd often be found grooming my Ponies to calm myself

Yep, we would sit in little groups at playtime, styling our ponies.
Unsure how successful G1 would have been without the brushable hair - it meant everything to us!  :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on July 28, 2021, 07:52:31 AM
Brushable hair ALWAYS mattered to me. When I was a child I'd often be found grooming my Ponies to calm myself

Yep, we would sit in little groups at playtime, styling our ponies.
Unsure how successful G1 would have been without the brushable hair - it meant everything to us!  :lol:

I remember doing that with my brush and grows. Braided Beauty especially as she had so much hair compared to Star Gleamer or any of my other non BG ponies. I adored Brush and Grows. I still do. I'd have an army of all of them if I had space. I already have multiples of some, which I pretend are upgrades...and still want to track down the four other Chinese ones as it's an excuse to have four more pretty BnGs.

Braids has a lot of hair but Bouquet, Pretty Vision etc, they have MASSIVE amounts of it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 28, 2021, 12:34:08 PM
Brushable hair ALWAYS mattered to me. When I was a child I'd often be found grooming my Ponies to calm myself

Yep, we would sit in little groups at playtime, styling our ponies.
Unsure how successful G1 would have been without the brushable hair - it meant everything to us!  :lol:

I remember doing that with my brush and grows. Braided Beauty especially as she had so much hair compared to Star Gleamer or any of my other non BG ponies. I adored Brush and Grows. I still do. I'd have an army of all of them if I had space. I already have multiples of some, which I pretend are upgrades...and still want to track down the four other Chinese ones as it's an excuse to have four more pretty BnGs.

Braids has a lot of hair but Bouquet, Pretty Vision etc, they have MASSIVE amounts of it.


Kinda surprised Rapunzel wasn't a BnG.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shiverdam on August 04, 2021, 07:30:55 PM
I really want to like the gen 5 designs. I like that they have distinctive hooves and feathers! But their snouts are still just... so short. Their faces are so flat. It's like their faces get flatter every generation, straying further and further from horse-ness. Give me the horsefaces. Please. I beg you
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 06, 2021, 12:53:57 PM
I don't like the G5 boys faces. They've somehow managed to make them look even worse then the girls.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: glitterball on August 06, 2021, 02:55:52 PM
I don't like the G5 boys faces. They've somehow managed to make them look even worse then the girls.

Gotta agree! Perhaps it's the eyebrows... or the squareness of the head... they look too "tough" IMO!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 07, 2021, 09:29:23 AM
I don't like the G5 boys faces. They've somehow managed to make them look even worse then the girls.

Gotta agree! Perhaps it's the eyebrows... or the squareness of the head... they look too "tough" IMO!

I don't think they look tough, just plain stupid and disproportionate.


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Faeriefalls on August 09, 2021, 06:37:07 PM
I don't like the G5 boys faces. They've somehow managed to make them look even worse then the girls.

Gotta agree! Perhaps it's the eyebrows... or the squareness of the head... they look too "tough" IMO!

I don't think they look tough, just plain stupid and disproportionate.

There's definitely some sorta uncanny valley thing happening to the male ponies in G5. I also can't pinpoint why it doesn't work. The animation is a bit off or their expressions?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ridi on August 10, 2021, 04:26:42 AM
I think the boy ponies look ok in the cartoon, not too noticeably different from the girls, but the boy head mold for the toys looks so smushed, like they're smooshing their lips against a window or something. At least they're not quite on the level of the G4 boys. WTF was up with that dimorphism.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lonewolf on August 16, 2021, 11:44:35 PM
I finally saw a G5 toy (Starscout) in person at a Walmart Sunday (which is all they had).
And honestly they look even worse in person. They literally have "block heads". That coupled with the body IMO puts them below Pony Life toys.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 17, 2021, 06:42:39 AM
I finally saw a G5 toy (Starscout) in person at a Walmart Sunday (which is all they had).
And honestly they look even worse in person. They literally have "block heads". That coupled with the body IMO puts them below Pony Life toys.

I don't think anything could be worse then PL toys
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on August 17, 2021, 02:00:56 PM
I hope I don't feel like this when I see them in person, but the multipack sets of G5 look kinda like the multipacks of fakies I see sometimes in the supermarket :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 17, 2021, 02:18:04 PM
I hope I don't feel like this when I see them in person, but the multipack sets of G5 look kinda like the multipacks of fakies I see sometimes in the supermarket :/

 :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: lonewolf on August 17, 2021, 02:21:09 PM
I finally saw a G5 toy (Starscout) in person at a Walmart Sunday (which is all they had).
And honestly they look even worse in person. They literally have "block heads". That coupled with the body IMO puts them below Pony Life toys.

I don't think anything could be worse then PL toys

There is in my book. :whistle:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Esbayne on August 22, 2021, 07:19:08 PM
Unpopular opinion, I know the new ponies are creepy but somehow it made me love them more. XD

Retroactively it made me decide 100% I also love G3.5 and PonyLife.

But.
I still appreciate they are honestly super creepy and uncanny valley.
But I admit that's why I decided I liked them. XD

That being said, *popular* opinion, I don't like the new boy moulded hair. But part of me really feels like they may change that down the line, truly.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shystar06 on August 24, 2021, 09:58:35 AM
I don't like the G5 boys faces. They've somehow managed to make them look even worse then the girls.

Stole my post! Egads, they're...borderline creepy.

What else...hmmm....

MLP Tales was screwed by lazy writers as they were basically not "horsey" at all.

Likewise the MLP:FIM plotline nuked the fridge so badly that a lot of the better-written fanfics and AU's beat the canon events. Without question, hooves down. "Keep Calm and Flutter On" was probably my breaking point if I remember right.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brmylittleponycollector on August 28, 2021, 03:09:40 PM
I like all generations!
I don't really like the color of Snuzzle
I find the G4 and G4.5 animation style Horrible! But at least the dolls are cute!
I think the G2 Ponies are cute but too thin!
I LOVE AG3 AND G3.5 I THINK THEY ARE THE BEST AND MOST PERFECT GENERATIONS!
I think equestria girls should never have existed (Even me collecting!)
The G5 seems to me much better and superior to the G4!
There are some things from G4 that I think are super unnecessary!
I think G1 made by Estrela here in Brazil is a little prettier than the original Hasbro!
Takara ponies are very cute they look like dwarf ponies!
 :good:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: paradiserain on September 03, 2021, 06:41:51 AM
I'm not sure if these are unpopular opinions, but they're mine;

I hate G3.5 and G4.5. The "bumper" generations are so ugly and lame. G3.5 not only gave us weird, ugly, bobblehead ponies, but it also gave us the worst of the pony shows/movies. Also My Little Pony Life was such a downgrade from the original G4 show and the toys were/are super ugly. I HATE their designs. XD

G4 is only good for the show and the lore. The G4 toys are very ugly to me. The ponies in the show look fine and some are even cool, but their toy counterparts are such a disappointment. The generation overall is very overrated to me. I still enjoy the show and I have my favorite characters, but it's not my favorite generation.

The best G3 pose is the original Kimono pose.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 04, 2021, 06:36:06 AM
I don’t quite know how unpopular this is anymore, but I refuse to have anything to do with G4/4.5. It was overblown, went on for too long, and got worse as time went on. Brought in some really sketchy fandom people, too. :huh:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 04, 2021, 09:22:23 AM
I don’t quite know how unpopular this is anymore, but I refuse to have anything to do with G4/4.5. It was overblown, went on for too long, and got worse as time went on. Brought in some really sketchy fandom people, too. :huh:

...I suspect it's less unpopular here than in other parts of the internet xD.

You're definitely not alone. :)

Although in balance, I guess I'll add some around G4.

I like the original G4 toys better than the reboot ones, even though there are fewer poses.

I don't like 'show accurate' MLP. I would've loved show accurate fashions for some of the Jem releases back in the eighties, but I've never seen MLP as a tv-dictated show. But it's more that I always loved and still like styling pony hair, so 'show accurate' to me is like moulded hair = pretty dull :)

I don't like the fan names or animation names for the G4 ponies. Their names are whatever Hasbro put on their packages as far as I'm concerned. This is probably because I don't like the FIM fandom more than any sense of loyalty to Hasbro mind you...

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 04, 2021, 09:26:24 AM
I don’t quite know how unpopular this is anymore, but I refuse to have anything to do with G4/4.5. It was overblown, went on for too long, and got worse as time went on. Brought in some really sketchy fandom people, too. :huh:
I don't like the fan names or animation names for the G4 ponies. Their names are whatever Hasbro put on their packages as far as I'm concerned. This is probably because I don't like the FIM fandom more than any sense of loyalty to Hasbro mind you...
I have to agree with that, as it makes for a lot of confusion as to who is who. I'm not fond of the huge discourse that used to be around ":muffin: Pony", so I'm glad that fandom phase is mostly over with or not in any of the circles I interact in, at least.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 04, 2021, 10:41:10 AM
Definitely not unpopular.   Most people agree that FiM is a good or decent kid's show and not much more.

The only ones who think that bronies are all that and a bag of chips, are bronies. People on the internet generally have a knee-jerk reaction towards them, and treat them as a nuisance. 

And many collectors aren't exactly thrilled with the poor plastic and hair  quality of the g4 toys.  Let alone the extreme obsession for a handful of characters.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on September 04, 2021, 11:57:21 AM
It's their size I don't like, along with the lack of variety in the brushables.
Fashion Styles are a better size, but none of the CMC or other younger Ponies were made to match that.
The focus toy-wise also shifted from brushable to mini: in G4's case, blind bags. Even getting them opened is annoying. They're like toys for my other Ponies.

Back to the size of normal brushables: G4 normal size adults are the same size as G1 Baby Ponies. They're midget Ponies if you will.

My other least fave thing about G4 is my least fave thing about G3.5: repetition. We got, instead of the huge variety of characters, species & shapes featured in the show, a few token side-characters & the Mane Six ad nauseum. Even were I to get every G1 Butterscotch ever made, it would come nowhere near the amount of TS's I have, let alone the amount of TS's actually released (Yep I still don't have all the TS's ever released). It's just too much!!! Fortunately most of the TS's in my collection were easy to get hold of.

The fandom of G4 is a whole other discussion.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 04, 2021, 12:05:52 PM
It's their size I don't like, along with the lack of variety in the brushables.
Fashion Styles are a better size, but none of the CMC or other younger Ponies were made to match that.
The focus toy-wise also shifted from brushable to mini: in G4's case, blind bags. Even getting them opened is annoying. They're like toys for my other Ponies.

Back to the size of normal brushables: G4 normal size adults are the same size as G1 Baby Ponies. They're midget Ponies if you will.

My other least fave thing about G4 is my least fave thing about G3.5: repetition. We got, instead of the huge variety of characters, species & shapes featured in the show, a few token side-characters & the Mane Six ad nauseum. Even were I to get every G1 Butterscotch ever made, it would come nowhere near the amount of TS's I have, let alone the amount of TS's actually released (Yep I still don't have all the TS's ever released). It's just too much!!! Fortunately most of the TS's in my collection were easy to get hold of.

The fandom of G4 is a whole other discussion.

Twilight Sparkle was my bane, more so then any other of the mane suxx. She was constantly packed in with other toys, and I got rid of most of them.  I've had 6, and of those  I only willingly bought and kept two.  The flip n flow merpony for a custom, and the one in the retro mane six pack because she actually looks like a my little pony.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 04, 2021, 12:27:36 PM
Good point about the blind bags, Ponybookworm. For as much ‘variety’ there was, there were always 300 different variations of the mane six slapped alongside the other ponies in the set. Like, great, now you have three see-through pink Twilights and three more sparkly Twilights -_-
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on September 05, 2021, 02:40:23 PM
One thing that I'm sure will be unpopular here... I do think that FiM ultimately deserves the praise it gets.

I do think it's overrated to the extent that a lot of what G4 get praised for, the previous generations did with their cartoons, and I'm not saying there aren't any other cartoons around the time of FiM's airing that didn't do the same things as well, but I'll never agree that FiM was "just another cartoon", because it definitely made the effort (like admittedly a lot of cartoons do), and felt like something that could have existed when I was a kid - I do admit that a lot of it was because it seemed "better" and closer to what I considered classic to what I was watching at the time, but there are various things about it, even little things, that made it stand out (but a lot of those were present in previous generations too, as I would soon discover.)

So yes, there is some overhyping to G4, at least when compared to the whole of MLP (which I found to be mostly the same thing as G4, so G4 carried on what was already awesome about MLP to me), but I do think it deserves praise for what it was and did.  It definitely isn't something that can be passed over as "just some kid's show" to me (though in fairness, no kid's show should get this as the immediate treatment, as kid's shows in general are well written and made with effort - and FiM is one of these shows.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 06, 2021, 09:24:50 AM
I don't mind the eyebrows on G5. I don't like them, but I think its because I'm used to the Spirit Stallion of the Cimarron movie/Spirit Riding Free toys having them. So they don't bother me quite so much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 06, 2021, 09:41:42 AM
I don't mind the eyebrows on G5. I don't like them, but I think its because I'm used to the Spirit Stallion of the Cimarron movie/Spirit Riding Free toys, having them. So they don't bother me quite so much.
I can't imagine eyebrows on any other generation, but I think G5 would look a bit bizarre without them. So I'm alright with them too; the Spirit comparison is relatable, at least in my case. Looks fine.  :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on September 06, 2021, 01:31:00 PM
I think the pony life toys are cute/funny and think the Pony Life show is cute/funny too.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starrynights on September 06, 2021, 03:42:22 PM
I think all gens are good. Even G3.5 and G4
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 07, 2021, 12:37:14 AM
One thing that I'm sure will be unpopular here... I do think that FiM ultimately deserves the praise it gets.


I'm no fan of FIM, and I think it promotes a few dangerous ideas (most likely by accident because of the obsession with pushing friendship at all costs) but...hrm. I was never much of a fan of the original series either, FIM actually made me appreciate the G1 series better. BUT I feel like seeing the G5 trailer, toys etc - whether I like FIM or not, it was fresh, and it was trying to be new, and it didn't have a really annoying colour palette.

Mind you I still feel the problem with G5 is that it's hanging on G4's coattails. That's not an insult to G4 so much as G4 has already run its course. So this brings me to another unpopular opinion. With hindsight, I'm glad G2 was as different from G1 as it was. At the time it caused so much controversy, but thinking back, I realise that trying to hang on to a previous generation obsessively is not a great thing for MLP. Whether G2 worked out or not everywhere, it was at least trying to be different. And then G3 the same, and also G4 the same.

So I suppose even though I dislike FIM, I appreciate its existence more having seen the drab and tired way that G5 is being put together. It's not that G5 is controversial or offensive (aside that running-from-the-pony-who's-different scene of course). It just feels like we already saw all of it before because it's still trying to use concepts that have been used up already on G4.

By the same token - and maybe this is also unpopular - I preferred when FIM did not try and do a 'nod' to older generations, especially G1. It was better when it stood on its own narrative.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 07, 2021, 04:57:32 AM
I think all gens are good. Even G3.5 and G4
How unpopular is G3.5 these days? I used to not be sure about it, but I do like it a whole heck of a lot better than G4!

And I agree with that last point, Tafetta; I wasn’t keen on all the G1 ‘references’ G4 tried to shove in.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 07, 2021, 07:17:30 AM
I think all gens are good. Even G3.5 and G4
How unpopular is G3.5 these days? I used to not be sure about it, but I do like it a whole heck of a lot better than G4!

And I agree with that last point, Tafetta; I wasn’t keen on all the G1 ‘references’ G4 tried to shove in.

Not very popular.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on September 07, 2021, 12:01:53 PM
I think all gens are good. Even G3.5 and G4
How unpopular is G3.5 these days? I used to not be sure about it, but I do like it a whole heck of a lot better than G4!
I hardly ever notice anything about G3.5 specifically getting posted on here, including in For Sale and Customs and Art, for what that's worth.  So I would say not very popular?  Personally, they are my least favorite gen toys.  It's not that I hate them, I just ...dislike them/ignore them.  I reckon many others feel similar.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 07, 2021, 12:18:02 PM
My unpopular opinion is I find G3.5 really cute and I'm usually more excited to thrift one of them versus G4. They sell pretty okay for me, too!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 07, 2021, 12:22:24 PM
My unpopular opinion is I find G3.5 really cute and I'm usually more excited to thrift one of them versus G4. They sell pretty okay for me, too!
I agree, they are pretty cute  :happy:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zargata on September 07, 2021, 05:49:26 PM
My unpopular opinion is I find G3.5 really cute and I'm usually more excited to thrift one of them versus G4. They sell pretty okay for me, too!

Oh agree they are cute. But the end of the g3 line is full of the same 7 ponies. They are a large improvement over the same static pose before the redesign.

Plus they had great hair. Shame hasbro did literally nothing interesting with them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on September 07, 2021, 07:04:01 PM
My unpopular opinion is I find G3.5 really cute and I'm usually more excited to thrift one of them versus G4. They sell pretty okay for me, too!

Oh agree they are cute. But the end of the g3 line is full of the same 7 ponies. They are a large improvement over the same static pose before the redesign.

Plus they had great hair. Shame hasbro did literally nothing interesting with them.

Yeah this is how I feel about them! I think 3.5s are cute (albeit not horsey of course). Sadly though they are my least favorite generation just because being all Core 7 makes them not very fun to collect. But they're cute and are very high quality as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on September 07, 2021, 08:41:19 PM
Maybe not an UNPOPULAR opinion, but one nonetheless...

I like unicorns, but I don't LOVE unicorns. They're not my favourite pony species. Earth ponies #1, followed by pegasi (I always preferred the plural being "pegasuses" but I guess "pegasi" has been made official).

I was a G3 kid and unicorns came too late, and when they did, they weren't really anything special. They were no different from earth ponies, but I guess their culture was neat, how they have 4 assigned ponies to make a rainbow every year. But NOTHING compared to when I came home one day seeing Star Catcher sitting on the kitchen table! I had no idea she was even out or even expected to see winged ponies in MLP! (I had G2s as well, which as you know didn't get anywhere in the US.) Star Catcher was really beautiful and special, and I loved the other pegasi in G3 as well, since they lived on a tropical island, and summer is my favourite season.

In G1 unicorns were still just okay. Them having actual magical abilities is nice, but still, nothing is cooler than FLYING! As an adult I'm kind of indifferent to the species in G1, I guess I like earth ponies the best. As a kid Galaxy was my favourite character in the cartoon but still, pegasi can FLY which is WAY cooler than anything the unicorns can do.

G4 unicorns were overpowered, of course.

G5, pegasi win here again. I'm still biased towards earth ponies since I'm a Horse Girl but pegasi in this gen are sooooo cool. Their wings are different shapes AND different colours. The hair colours are lacking so far in G5 but the wing colours make up for it a bit. They make them so much appealing. Earth ponies don't have anything special and neither do unicorns, but pegasi have their beautiful wings...

One more kudos to G5 while I'm still here: I really like the different cultures of the pony species. G4's areas felt kinda samey but G5 feels really distinct. I LOVE all three towns and want to see all of them all the time! Goodbye to dirt road thatched-roofed G4 Ponyville! The cottages are all identical and it loses charm quickly, if it had any to begin with, because I'm remembering it through 2010-2011 rose-tinted glasses. Nothing about Ponyville makes me think "wow, I would want to live there if I was a little pony". Cloudsdale was nice and Canterlot was great but we were stuck in Ponyville all the time and it's sooooo boring. Maretime Bay is so beautiful and reminds me of G3 Ponyville with all the colours, I love the magical vibe of Bridlewood, and I love the art deco inspiration for Zephyr Heights. I really really really hope each location gets equal screentime in the upcoming show.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 07, 2021, 11:39:15 PM
When I was a kid, pegasus ponies were my number 1 for some reason. My want list for most sets was usually topped by a pegasus, who I would never be able to find and thus would end up with one of the earth ponies instead...

But over here in the comics earth ponies and unicorns also both flew, and pegasus ponies also often had their own magic. So it wasn't really about that. I don't know what it was really.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 08, 2021, 12:19:01 AM
My unpopular opinion is I find G3.5 really cute and I'm usually more excited to thrift one of them versus G4. They sell pretty okay for me, too!

Oh agree they are cute. But the end of the g3 line is full of the same 7 ponies. They are a large improvement over the same static pose before the redesign.

Plus they had great hair. Shame hasbro did literally nothing interesting with them.
Yeah, it is a shame we got stuck with the same couple ponies  :shrug:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on September 08, 2021, 05:30:54 AM
When I was a kid, pegasus ponies were my number 1 for some reason. My want list for most sets was usually topped by a pegasus, who I would never be able to find and thus would end up with one of the earth ponies instead...

But over here in the comics earth ponies and unicorns also both flew, and pegasus ponies also often had their own magic. So it wasn't really about that. I don't know what it was really.

Wings are cool!! :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 08, 2021, 05:41:07 AM
G4's areas felt kinda samey but G5 feels really distinct. I LOVE all three towns and want to see all of them all the time! Goodbye to dirt road thatched-roofed G4 Ponyville! The cottages are all identical and it loses charm quickly, if it had any to begin with, because I'm remembering it through 2010-2011 rose-tinted glasses. Nothing about Ponyville makes me think "wow, I would want to live there if I was a little pony".
Hard agree here; I'm very excited to see G5's world explored.

G4 Ponyville has nothing on G3 Ponyville. It looks so flat, like every building is a cardboard cut-out representation. It doesn't really look like any of the ponies really live there. I can certainly say I wouldn't want to be a pony there either, lol.  :zzz:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shystar06 on September 08, 2021, 12:20:41 PM
G4's areas felt kinda samey but G5 feels really distinct. I LOVE all three towns and want to see all of them all the time! Goodbye to dirt road thatched-roofed G4 Ponyville! The cottages are all identical and it loses charm quickly, if it had any to begin with, because I'm remembering it through 2010-2011 rose-tinted glasses. Nothing about Ponyville makes me think "wow, I would want to live there if I was a little pony".
Hard agree here; I'm very excited to see G5's world explored.

G4 Ponyville has nothing on G3 Ponyville. It looks so flat, like every building is a cardboard cut-out representation. It doesn't really look like any of the ponies really live there. I can certainly say I wouldn't want to be a pony there either, lol.  :zzz:

G3 had a bit too much of a "Candyland" aspect to it but the G4 world alternates between outright BORING and  "showpiece" rather than "somepony actually lives here".
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 08, 2021, 01:33:42 PM
"Showpiece" is a really good way of describing it; there's not a whole lot of substance to it  :huh:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 09, 2021, 04:15:41 AM
G4 is Equestria, surely, not ponyville?

I got really confused reading that :)

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 09, 2021, 05:35:32 AM
G4 is Equestria, surely, not ponyville?

I got really confused reading that :)
I was specifically referring to the town of Ponyville within Equestria in my posts  :biggrin: Equestria as a whole is a little better, but the main setting is fairly dull in my opinion
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: wingweaver on September 09, 2021, 09:26:40 AM
with g2 ponies i rather like the look of ponies that are designed with tinsel, as in: i like them if they are not detinsled. (hope that explanation makes sense)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 09, 2021, 09:29:32 AM
with g2 ponies i rather like the look of ponies that are designed with tinsel, as in: i like them if they are not detinsled. (hope that explanation makes sense)

It does
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 09, 2021, 09:46:26 AM
G4 is Equestria, surely, not ponyville?

I got really confused reading that :)
I was specifically referring to the town of Ponyville within Equestria in my posts  :biggrin: Equestria as a whole is a little better, but the main setting is fairly dull in my opinion

Ah, ok. I don't watch FIM so didn't realise they copied that from G3 as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on September 09, 2021, 11:29:57 AM
With some exceptions, I prefer toys without specific characters & personalities tied to them.   It looks like the G5s are pretty much all that way.  They are cute and Disney-ish and I’m not hating on them.  But, I probably won’t be buying them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 13, 2021, 11:27:32 AM
I like Sunny now that I have her in hand.  Despite her overused color scheme, she's cute.

I like Queen Haven more than I thought. Her colors are very nice. Her head is still too G4ish for my liking.

I will be disappointed if they don't give the new ones proper hair.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponyprincess2021 on September 13, 2021, 04:26:06 PM
Am I the only one who feels like I must keep every variant of a pony. Even if theres a slight difference from another release I still would want to keep it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 13, 2021, 04:47:39 PM
Am I the only one who feels like I must keep every variant of a pony. Even if theres a slight difference from another release I still would want to keep it.


No. Otherwise people wouldn't  be showing off their armies
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 13, 2021, 06:01:32 PM
Am I the only one who feels like I must keep every variant of a pony. Even if theres a slight difference from another release I still would want to keep it.
I can definitely understand that with certain ponies  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 14, 2021, 01:32:04 AM
Am I the only one who feels like I must keep every variant of a pony. Even if theres a slight difference from another release I still would want to keep it.

I admit to doing this. There's a reason I have six baby Mischiefs >.>

I don't have the space to do it with every pony, but if the difference is significant enough, like a country of manufacture or some other thing, then yep. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on September 14, 2021, 07:41:19 AM
Am I the only one who feels like I must keep every variant of a pony. Even if theres a slight difference from another release I still would want to keep it.
I can definitely understand that with certain ponies  :P
I do this with a few Ponies but only a few, otherwise I wouldn't be able to keep up!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starrynights on September 14, 2021, 11:26:54 PM
Am I the only one who feels like I must keep every variant of a pony. Even if theres a slight difference from another release I still would want to keep it.
You aren't, I'm on a quest to collect every variant of Princess Luna.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Starflashbaby on September 16, 2021, 05:53:10 PM
G1 ponies
Mimic - was really pretty in the pictures but then I get her in my hands and so I can buy her.... I didn't like her greenish yellow color I thought she was Mint or a white, But she was in Great condition and I brought her anyways.
Rapunzel I love Goldilocks better but I will still fight for a cheap Rapunzel in the future.
Don't get me on my soap box about Sweet Stuff, If I didn't already have her in my herd, I'd probably never pick her up. she is a lucky pony she came to me in a bundle set at a flea market. (I hate her cause me and my friend where playing our future Prom days and my friend of all the beautiful ponies she had, picked Sweet Stuff to play as me and I was not even big at that time. I was crushed and & hurt at the same time then furious)

G2 I love them all

G3 There really wasn't a problem with G3 in my eyes there were a verity of different ponies that I loved and still want.

G4 the armies of each main 6 was getting really annoying. Just a little different variation its like what happened to collecting Ponies? Now its Armies of each Character. I got the different ponies that had one or 2 rare poses such as Big Mac..

G5 I only have one set of them so fare I'm happy with what I have. I'm a Pony collector so that being said I may not watch G5 Ponies new netflix movie...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 17, 2021, 01:15:59 AM
Nobody ever had a problem with G3 really until G4 came out and a bunch of bronies had an insecurity complex about what came before. I remember it as the generation that healed the last of the rifts over G2 (although most people had got over it by then) because it was a generation everyone basically got behind.

I like Sweet Scoops more than Rapunzel. Always will. Simple is best.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 17, 2021, 05:25:13 AM
Nobody ever had a problem with G3 really until G4 came out and a bunch of bronies had an insecurity complex about what came before. I remember it as the generation that healed the last of the rifts over G2 (although most people had got over it by then) because it was a generation everyone basically got behind.

I like Sweet Scoops more than Rapunzel. Always will. Simple is best.
That insecurity-complex drove me up the wall. It was like an entire YouTube genre from 2011-2013 where bronies would watch a G3 movie and scream about how bad it was for an hour. "It's for girls!" as if that's a bad thing, as if nothing "for girls" can be good  :pout: Really fits riiiight in with their "love and tolerate" message.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 17, 2021, 07:46:29 AM
Nobody ever had a problem with G3 really until G4 came out and a bunch of bronies had an insecurity complex about what came before. I remember it as the generation that healed the last of the rifts over G2 (although most people had got over it by then) because it was a generation everyone basically got behind.

I like Sweet Scoops more than Rapunzel. Always will. Simple is best.
That insecurity-complex drove me up the wall. It was like an entire YouTube genre from 2011-2013 where bronies would watch a G3 movie and scream about how bad it was for an hour. "It's for girls!" as if that's a bad thing, as if nothing "for girls" can be good  :pout: Really fits riiiight in with their "love and tolerate" message.
Nobody ever had a problem with G3 really until G4 came out and a bunch of bronies had an insecurity complex about what came before. I remember it as the generation that healed the last of the rifts over G2 (although most people had got over it by then) because it was a generation everyone basically got behind.

I like Sweet Scoops more than Rapunzel. Always will. Simple is best.


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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on September 17, 2021, 09:23:22 AM
While the G3 ponies themselves seemed universally liked, I do remember there being some people who unfavorably compared the G3 cartoon with the original in a "cartoons were better when I was a kid. They had real conflicts and are too tame now." kind of way. But even then the conversation was kept in adult collector spaces and nobody would have commented that on a G3 video on YouTube.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 17, 2021, 09:27:02 AM
I love the way Moonbow's mane and tail are sculpted, and I love the animated G1-esque tails on some of the crossover ponies. Sunny's braid is actually quite cute in person.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 17, 2021, 11:43:08 AM
While the G3 ponies themselves seemed universally liked, I do remember there being some people who unfavorably compared the G3 cartoon with the original in a "cartoons were better when I was a kid. They had real conflicts and are too tame now." kind of way. But even then the conversation was kept in adult collector spaces and nobody would have commented that on a G3 video on YouTube.
Nope. No one felt the need to 'justify' G4 being sooo different by putting the previous generations down.  :huh:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 17, 2021, 02:51:48 PM
@Mouse Huh?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 17, 2021, 03:21:31 PM
@Mouse Huh?

I think they meant G1. But we were talking about G4 before. Given previous comments I'm guessing that anyway.

 I remember when G3 came out, I remember the breath of relief that happened in the community when it did after all the ups and downs around G2. (Although I also remember some remorse over G2 stopping in the US so it had mostly calmed down by then, especially when Silverswirl came out).

 Also, I'm talking about the generation, not the animation specifically. It is true that people discussed the age target for the G3 animation and concluded it was aimed at younger kids than the G1 animation. But that's not really anything to do with how people viewed G3 as a generation. Because G4 is the first and only generation to be defined by its animation output, rather than its toyline. And since most if not all the G3 animation came with toys...it's definitely not the same thing.

As G1 fans we took quite a lot of annoyance from that sector of bronies who thought they could eradicate the existing community if they shouted loud enough and made rude comments...but G3 fans and G3 ponies really did take the brunt of it (see the G4 brony documentary). I think perhaps the thing that warped everything was giving the attention to the male fans of MLP like it was something new and special when it wasn't. There have always been male pony fans right back as far as I can remember. And giving it the attention was like saying on one hand, here's this subordinate silly girl thing being made legitimate because MEN care about it! while on the other, 'look at these weird guys who like GIRL things let's make a thing about it'.

...It gave undesireable people a platform and warped a whole toyline. Not to mention I imagine made life pretty rough for the real male pony fans who aren't associated with far right groups, online grooming, explicit artwork, death threats or whatever else.

Final point, which is also probably an unpopular opinion, but FIM is not really about tolerance and acceptance, and so nor are the bronies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponyprincess2021 on September 20, 2021, 04:07:17 PM
I don’t really care for mimic. At first she was kind of interesting. But when I kept seeing her on eBay going for thousands on every auction she just felt less special. Even though she’s so rare and is highly wanted I don’t see what’s so special about her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: DreamsofUnicorn on September 21, 2021, 07:55:30 PM
I don't really like Fizzy all that much and most of the other twinkle eyes are much more to my taste design wise.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 23, 2021, 02:16:49 PM
I don’t really care for mimic. At first she was kind of interesting. But when I kept seeing her on eBay going for thousands on every auction she just felt less special. Even though she’s so rare and is highly wanted I don’t see what’s so special about her.

I think Mimic is special, but I hate that she's so expensive. Not because I care what people want to pay for a pony, but because it's tainted her and made this whole thing where some folk think she's a status symbol and others have been driven away from her because of the price.

To me she's just a really pretty and uniquely coloured TE pony. She's my favourite TE, and was my first trade back in 1997, when I knew nothing about pony value and frankly could've cared less anyway. I adore the TE set overall. I'm just sad that her stupid price and all the idiocy that's happened around her since has made her such a divisive pony :/

With all that said, Tic Tac Toe has the most beautiful TE eyes of all of them. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 23, 2021, 02:18:00 PM
I personally think Masquerade and Sweet Stuff have the prettiest colored TE Eyes. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 23, 2021, 02:19:11 PM
I personally think Masquerade and Sweet Stuff have the prettiest colored TE Eyes. :)

Masquerade is second. As a kid I loved her eyes and was fascinated by them. They're so greeeeeen :D Probably that's also why I rate Tic Tac Toe, as my friend had her an she was the first pony I ever saw with orange eyes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: ponyprincess2021 on September 23, 2021, 04:53:18 PM
I don’t really care for mimic. At first she was kind of interesting. But when I kept seeing her on eBay going for thousands on every auction she just felt less special. Even though she’s so rare and is highly wanted I don’t see what’s so special about her.

I think Mimic is special, but I hate that she's so expensive. Not because I care what people want to pay for a pony, but because it's tainted her and made this whole thing where some folk think she's a status symbol and others have been driven away from her because of the price.

To me she's just a really pretty and uniquely coloured TE pony. She's my favourite TE, and was my first trade back in 1997, when I knew nothing about pony value and frankly could've cared less anyway. I adore the TE set overall. I'm just sad that her stupid price and all the idiocy that's happened around her since has made her such a divisive pony :/

With all that said, Tic Tac Toe has the most beautiful TE eyes of all of them. :)
I don’t think it’s also just her price. She does have unique colors but she just kind of exists to me like I don’t want or need her. If other people like her or purchase her it doesn’t bother me. I just wouldn’t buy her myself with the other options I could have. Like with rapunzel she’s another highly wanted and expensive pony but I wouldn’t spend time trying to get her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 24, 2021, 02:20:56 PM
Mimic is better than Rapunzel.

I wouldn't have gone after Rapunzel if I didn't have the opportunity to make a good trade for her 20+ years ago. Sweet Scoops is nicer anyway. But Mimic is definitely better :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on September 24, 2021, 09:19:53 PM
A custom of a rare pony is just as good to have as the actual rare pony.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: PrincessRoyalBlue on September 25, 2021, 07:34:10 AM
I don't like G4 very much, they look very deformed. And Rapunzel, I also don't get what all the fuss is about. Her tinsel doesn't match her hair at all!
Also, does anyone else think that if G2 had looked more like the Sweetheart Sister Ponies, it'd be better? Not that it's bad or that I hate it, but I just really love the Sweetheart Sister molds.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 25, 2021, 08:38:41 AM
I don't like G4 very much, they look very deformed. And Rapunzel, I also don't get what all the fuss is about. Her tinsel doesn't match her hair at all!
Also, does anyone else think that if G2 had looked more like the Sweetheart Sister Ponies, it'd be better? Not that it's bad or that I hate it, but I just really love the Sweetheart Sister molds.
I agree with this, they'd look great on SHS moulds.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 25, 2021, 10:52:01 AM
I suspect Wardah's post is actually not an unpopular opinion, but I pretty much feel the opposite. FOr me the joy of collecting is tracking down those items and finding them for as good a price as possible.

I am ok with how G2 and G4 toys look. But it would be interesting to see the G2 in SHS poses.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on September 25, 2021, 11:06:54 AM
I don't like G4 very much, they look very deformed.

I don't like their designs either.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on September 25, 2021, 11:13:11 AM
I don't like G4 very much, they look very deformed. And Rapunzel, I also don't get what all the fuss is about. Her tinsel doesn't match her hair at all!
Also, does anyone else think that if G2 had looked more like the Sweetheart Sister Ponies, it'd be better? Not that it's bad or that I hate it, but I just really love the Sweetheart Sister molds.
I think something like a SHS head on a G2 body would be nice.  I really like the G2 legs, but not their heads so much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 25, 2021, 11:22:31 AM
I don't like G4 very much, they look very deformed. And Rapunzel, I also don't get what all the fuss is about. Her tinsel doesn't match her hair at all!
Also, does anyone else think that if G2 had looked more like the Sweetheart Sister Ponies, it'd be better? Not that it's bad or that I hate it, but I just really love the Sweetheart Sister molds.
I think something like a SHS head on a G2 body would be nice.  I really like the G2 legs, but not their heads so much.

That might look a bit strange. Well you could always head swap  just to see how it looks?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on September 25, 2021, 08:23:24 PM
I suspect Wardah's post is actually not an unpopular opinion, but I pretty much feel the opposite. FOr me the joy of collecting is tracking down those items and finding them for as good a price as possible.

Oh I'm not saying there's no thrill of the hunt, and finding a rare pony for an affordable price is always exciting. I just mean that a high price tag doesn't make it more special.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 27, 2021, 02:00:27 AM
I'm gonna ruffle feathers with this one. It already irritates me that people are calling these ponies, the new Pinkie Pie, Rainbowdash, etc. They're character archetypes that we've seen throughout the series, sure. Patch,  Wind Whistler,  G3 Pinkie Pie, G3 Minty, Bright Eyes, Truly and so on. But how about we not fall into recent, short-sighted views of everything being a Mane Six knock off,  and let them be who they are. Their own characters.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on September 27, 2021, 08:29:32 AM
I'm gonna ruffle feathers with this one. It already irritates me that people are calling these ponies, the new Pinkie Pie, Rainbowdash, etc. They're character archetypes that we've seen throughout the series, sure. Patch,  Wind Whistler,  G3 Pinkie Pie, G3 Minty, Bright Eyes, Truly and so on. But how about we not fall into recent, short-sighted views of everything being a Mane Six knock off,  and let them be who they are. Their own characters.
OMG yep!!! Say it louder for the people in the back!!! Sunny is no TS. TS was a clumsy oaf who couldn't skate (winter wrap-up) while Sunny skates all the time. Izzy has some things in common with Pinkie Pie, others in common with Rarity, & yet more in common with neither. Each character is her own Pony. Even G1 Minty & G3 Minty are different characters (though in my Ponyworld they're mother & daughter), so we need to accept each new character as just that: a new character.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 27, 2021, 09:18:56 AM
I've decided that BBEs may not be so scary looking in person as I originally thought, now that I own one. Plus mine has the benefit of no pony mohawk,  and only a smidgen of eye rust on the top lid. She's not mint,  but she's in pretty nice shape. Dunno if that's her correct color,  or if she's discolored?

ETA:
I take it back. Frosting and Ribbon are the only ones that don't freak me out.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Goanna on September 27, 2021, 11:13:58 PM
I'm gonna ruffle feathers with this one. It already irritates me that people are calling these ponies, the new Pinkie Pie, Rainbowdash, etc. They're character archetypes that we've seen throughout the series, sure. Patch,  Wind Whistler,  G3 Pinkie Pie, G3 Minty, Bright Eyes, Truly and so on. But how about we not fall into recent, short-sighted views of everything being a Mane Six knock off,  and let them be who they are. Their own characters.
OMG yep!!! Say it louder for the people in the back!!! Sunny is no TS. TS was a clumsy oaf who couldn't skate (winter wrap-up) while Sunny skates all the time. Izzy has some things in common with Pinkie Pie, others in common with Rarity, & yet more in common with neither. Each character is her own Pony. Even G1 Minty & G3 Minty are different characters (though in my Ponyworld they're mother & daughter), so we need to accept each new character as just that: a new character.

Ahhhh so glad to see people saying this, I am already tired of people saying Zipp is the new Rainbow Dash and Izzy is the new Pinkie Pie... They are not that similar at all, imo! Sure they have some things in common but they really are all new characters.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 28, 2021, 07:22:47 AM
I'm gonna ruffle feathers with this one. It already irritates me that people are calling these ponies, the new Pinkie Pie, Rainbowdash, etc. They're character archetypes that we've seen throughout the series, sure. Patch,  Wind Whistler,  G3 Pinkie Pie, G3 Minty, Bright Eyes, Truly and so on. But how about we not fall into recent, short-sighted views of everything being a Mane Six knock off,  and let them be who they are. Their own characters.
OMG yep!!! Say it louder for the people in the back!!! Sunny is no TS. TS was a clumsy oaf who couldn't skate (winter wrap-up) while Sunny skates all the time. Izzy has some things in common with Pinkie Pie, others in common with Rarity, & yet more in common with neither. Each character is her own Pony. Even G1 Minty & G3 Minty are different characters (though in my Ponyworld they're mother & daughter), so we need to accept each new character as just that: a new character.

Ahhhh so glad to see people saying this, I am already tired of people saying Zipp is the new Rainbow Dash and Izzy is the new Pinkie Pie... They are not that similar at all, imo! Sure they have some things in common but they really are all new characters.

I'll hold up my hands and admit that based on the trailer, that was my impression. I've only watched half of the actual special as yet, but I am actually relieved that they're not as much like the G4 characters as the trailer suggested.

Which is a relief.

Although to keep it on the unpopular opinion theme - the character profiles from the G1 animation don't concretely define the personalities of G1 ponies. So it's easy to compare G5 to G4 because the only other character archetypes in MLP are from a handful of scattered G3 specials. Which for G1 isn't the case, as there are multiple character options available for those releases that G4 and G5 just won't have.

I get really tied of seeing people talk about the personalities from the G1 animation as though they're canon (whether it be a brony or whoever), when G1 doesn't have a fixed canon for stuff like that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 28, 2021, 10:46:40 AM
I know,  I'm just saying that every single pony that was ever given characterization of some sort, be it in a back card, animation, or a book, is still their own character. Even if some traits overlap with another's character. The same rings true for any character in any medium really.

I mean, when I first saw Gojo- sensei in Jujutsu Kaisen,with his spiky gray hair and covered eyes, I thought he was a Kakashi rip-off. But he turned out to be this loveable dork, who hides his cleverness behind the veneer of a flake.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on September 28, 2021, 01:55:12 PM
I know,  I'm just saying that every single pony that was ever given characterization of some sort, be it in a back card, animation, or a book, is still their own character. Even if some traits overlap with another's character. The same rings true for any character in any medium really.

True enough, although the G4 ponies did become more kind of shoehorned into their single characteristic a bit...maybe because of their elements of harmony.

But I just am so over people defining G1 by the animated series. There's nothing wrong with the series, and it didn't used to matter to me. But I think it was when the bronies started doing it and calling Tales ponies G2 because of the animation and such. And talking about Majesty or the TE ponies in canon terms because of comic stuff they never even read, because they could tie it to Celestia or Rarity. It was just such a denial of what G1 was that it started to irk me a whole lot. G1 ponies have contrasting characteristics within the same gen because of backcards/animation/comics/stories etc. By contrast that's not true of later gen ponies.

...It doesn't really matter what the genre. Well written characters always feel fresh and a little bit innovative, even if they share character traits.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 02, 2021, 10:19:44 AM
I think that G5 pegasus not being able to fly is dumb.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on October 02, 2021, 09:40:56 PM
I think that G5 pegasus not being able to fly is dumb.

I agree with you.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2021, 12:42:41 AM
I think that G5 pegasus not being able to fly is dumb.

I agree with you.

I think it's just weird, tbh. Like I said before, it's physiological, not magical. I don't care what G4 said about it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: NanoRuby on October 03, 2021, 05:08:15 AM
I think that G5 pegasus not being able to fly is dumb.

I agree with you.

I think it's just weird, tbh. Like I said before, it's physiological, not magical. I don't care what G4 said about it.

See, I'm the opposite here. Ever since I was little it's bothered me that G1 and 3 (and 4 to a lesser extent) pegasi can fly since their wings are so small, so I've always assumed there was a magical element to pegasus flight. Child me would feel very validated ^^
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SunPony on October 03, 2021, 05:56:27 AM
I think that G5 pegasus not being able to fly is dumb.

I agree with you.

I think it's just weird, tbh. Like I said before, it's physiological, not magical. I don't care what G4 said about it.

See, I'm the opposite here. Ever since I was little it's bothered me that G1 and 3 (and 4 to a lesser extent) pegasi can fly since their wings are so small, so I've always assumed there was a magical element to pegasus flight. Child me would feel very validated ^^
Oh yeah, there's no way ANY of the regular pegasi in G1, 3, 4, or 5 would be able to fly without magic (I'm not too familiar with G2 wings).  Those wings are all way too small/poorly shaped).  G5 does have the "best" wings from a morphological point of view, with G4 also being somewhat good, but they are still too small.  This had bothered me since I was a kid also, so you are not alone in thinking that! G5 wings make me really happy that they are moving towards more reasonable wings.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on October 03, 2021, 06:46:23 AM
No, I'm with LaW on this one, pegasi flight being entirely based on magic is just weird/stupid. Yeah, those wings would be too tiny to allow flight for such a big creature, in real life, but pegasi aren't real to begin with... horses aren't candy-coloured IRL, nor do they interact with all the fantastical things that MLPs do... so it feels silly to me, to draw the line at "But wings don't work that way IRL!" if that makes sense?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: NanoRuby on October 03, 2021, 07:01:09 AM
I've always thought of even the more mundande fantastical elements of ponies as being magical as well. So things like being purple and being able to talk are also a result of magic. So magical flight isn't that much of a stretch, at least to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2021, 07:27:58 AM
Let me clarify, ponies needing "Friendship Magic" to  fly is really stupid. Just as stupid,  as a picture that magically appeared on your hip the moment you found your destiny/career/whatever.

Friendship magic was never needed before. Otherwise G3 pegasus wouldn't have been able to fly, considering they were separated from the other species.

Since the flutter ponies were also secluded from the rest of  dream valley for who knows how long, they would be similarly inconvenienced. Except they weren't.

Flying ponies got wings and instincts,  they can fly just fine.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2021, 09:36:18 AM
For me I grew up with the concept that pegasus ponies flew because they had wings, and unicorn and earth ponies flew - sometimes - using magic. Depending on the pony. That's kind of how the comics played it. I never thought about the wing dimensions on the toys. I'm with Carrehz on this, too. I don't need to logically explain how ponies are different colours, have wings, can talk etc because they live in a different world anyway. I just never had any issues with that concept as a kid.

I also basically agree with what LAW said about the G4 stuff. But while I'm riding the unpopular opinion train, I'm  opposed to the idea of popularity clique friendship magic generally. So yeah. :) I guess I have a harder time with some of the G4 concepts anyway, because I also don't like the idea of symbols dictating destiny.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shystar06 on October 03, 2021, 10:13:14 PM
I also basically agree with what LAW said about the G4 stuff. But while I'm riding the unpopular opinion train, I'm  opposed to the idea of popularity clique friendship magic generally. So yeah. :) I guess I have a harder time with some of the G4 concepts anyway, because I also don't like the idea of symbols dictating destiny.

Honestly, the G4 universe had a couple very disturbing aspects to it with this one being right at the top. The concept of your "mark" heavily dictating your life, potentially including some level of enforcement by the legal system, is frighteningly similar to a human's skin color deciding so many aspects of their life. There are downright ugly implications of the whole cutie mark = job/life system, merely beginning with the chance of getting one that lands you a job you absolutely despise.

Then we take a pegasi-level view of the world of Equestria, beginning with the fact that "the government" (two ruling 'princesses' with their parents/elders never seen)  raise/lower the sun and moon. Meaning the existence of life itself in Equestria depends upon the benevolence of a couple immortal and unelected leaders.

If THAT doesn't make you twitch and go "wait just a minute" then you need to reread the previous two sentences until the full implications sink in. More than a few very well-written fanfics dealt with the consequences for the Equestrian populace, ponies and otherwise, if just one of the pair went completely nuts, got too depressed to do their jobs, tried to seize ultimate power, went MIA one day without explanation, made a mistake, etc. The results of such a situation would instantly jack the show's rating to "R" if accurately shown within an episode or two.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 04, 2021, 03:53:40 AM
In regards to pegasi flying due to magic... yeah, that's something that doesn't really feel completely right in my opinion either.  I'm actually starting to feel that maybe it should have just been their "super" flying that was caused by magic - like their ability to go unbelievably fast with specifically colored streak as they do, and just have their normal flight be a physical thing?  Like, the overall speed even with their "super" flying can still have a physical side to it, like what determines which pegasi are faster than others, but I'm starting to think that it (and weather manipulation) should be what "Pegasus Magic" is and they should be ably to fly normally, providing they've learned to do so, via physical means.

Regarding cutie marks: I've honestly never felt that cutie marks in G4 outright decided what you did in life or what your job was or anything.  I always felt the show made it clear that a pony could have multiple talents and the cutie mark was just what they're personally good at, and I personally only felt it directly dictated a pony's life if they chose for it to do (or they were a main character whose cutie mark was tied into the big storyline things they've been "chosen" to do) and they ultimately had other options.

I don't think a pony would be driven away from a job just because they had the wrong cutie mark - they'd at least be asked to prove if one of their other talents is whatever the job entails.  I think the fact that some of them have obvious job related ones may just be laziness on the creators' parts (a laziness that I'll probably succumb to as well), like "Oh, I need to create a firefighter pony for one scene... okay, the pony needs a cutie mark, don't they?  Um... well, they're a firefighter, and I don't think I'm ever going to give them a full backstory, so... yeah, the cutie mark can be a hose or something... okay, next scene."

I've also never personally had any reason to believe that a pony would get a cutie mark they completely don't want, be it connected to their job or not, as you'd need to enjoy something at least a decent amount if it was your "special talent" otherwise your heart wouldn't be in it.

I do have a sort of headcanon about the controlling of natural things (mainly the weather and the plants growing, but it could be extended to the raising of the sun and moon), but it's not fully formed, and it probably won't work in my project either (though it does "explain" something about G5 a little...) it's kind of a copout though, so don't get too excited.   ;)

I have to throw in my unpopular opinion that the Royal Sisters are not immortal though (but as there's no right way to view MLP I respect if people want to view them as such - the show have proven they are not, but the show is only one version of MLP and the ultimate version is the one we as individuals choose to see.)

I respect it if people view these things differently, but that is my personal view - I know that I am particularly defensive over cutie marks, so I hope I don't come across like I'm forcing my views on others, as I'm sure it has come across before.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 04, 2021, 07:34:00 AM
I am not going to pretend like I have as good a knowledge of G4 as you do, MJSNEIFER, so everything I'm about to say is couched in the disclaimer that this is my impression from the two and a halfish seasons plus odd episodes I have seen of FIM.

I would more associate the CM problem to a class system hierarchy. I don't know how rigid they are, but they are permanent and my impression was that they were a key coming of age event (given the young one and all the flap about them not having them yet). It's almost like they are anticipating them to give them some direction in life. It may be more nuanced but my overall impression (see above disclaimer) is that FIM is a bit bad at joining the dots with their ideas to add nuances. So the nuances are for people to intuit, but they're not canonically explained. And that's where the issues are. It's probably true that BG characters are shoehorned into symbol related jobs - in fairness, MLP Tales also did this at times, I can't say otherwise. The difference is that G1 didn't make a thing about 'getting your rump marking', so the fact that someone might have had a symbol that related to their name/job/interests was kind of just an incidental random thing that happened.

Whether the concept is the problem or the fact FIM doesn't seem to really explain it in a nuanced way I'm not sure. But I just don't really like it.

The race issue in FIM for me is another one completely, it's to do with ponies/other species, as I've mentioned before, Colonialism 101 and the like. Imposing friendship culture on other cultures as 'the best way' is kind of tone deaf, especially in the world we currently inhabit. I didn't like that (speaking as a British person from a nation with a horribly bloody history of colonising the world.)

Again I think this is partly because FIM doesn't explain things well, and broad strokes the idea of friendship being the answer to everything (it's not) and the ponies being great ambassadors of friendship (they're not) instead of recognising where maybe that narrative doesn't fit. Twilight especially, as she is not qualified to be the Princess of Friendship. None of them are, but especially not her. (I mean, Twilight and the pirates in the movie...just...no.).

I like the idea of the magic with pegasus ponies being superspeed and somersaults, although the G1 person inside of me also feels that invalidates Firefly and Whizzer's natural talents. But honestly I'm really sad G5 didn't give magic to earth ponies. It's a UK-centric G1 opinion but it has always felt odd to me that earth ponies haven't been given magic since G1. The most magical pony in G1, according to UK lore, was an Earth Pony. It's a shame this didn't happen in the US lore, because Sunny could have been that pony without having to change her species to conform to type. (Still hope that isn't meant to be permanent, but anyway).

I never really thought about the role of the Princesses, Luna and Celestia. I kind of saw them as quasi-deity figures, rather than dictatorial leaders. But I don't know whether growing up in a state with a monarchy means I have a different view towards the idea of an unelected head of state. But that could become a political discussion, so I'll leave that there. In essence ,I don't know if they are immortal (if they are, then they'd need to be in G5), but I don't see their role as a problem as regards the sun, moon etc. I like less the idea they have a court in equestria and integrate with the ponies and then make Twilight a princess, because for me that blurs the lines of what we're meant to see them as. But that's a different problem.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on October 04, 2021, 01:00:23 PM
As a kid, I didn't believe that the pegasis ponies could fly without magic.  G1 ponies are just too big for those tiny wings.  It didn't have to be friendship magic, just regular magic.  But my "canon" was based off the stories on the backcards where the elements, plants and animals could all talk and mountains turned into ice cream.  So... no rules whatsoever aside from "it's magic, don't ask questions"
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 20, 2021, 04:19:24 PM
To Taffeta, I am sorry I took so long to respond to this.

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I am not going to pretend like I have as good a knowledge of G4 as you do, MJSNEIFER, so everything I'm about to say is couched in the disclaimer that this is my impression from the two and a halfish seasons plus odd episodes I have seen of FIM.

Understandable.

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I would more associate the CM problem to a class system hierarchy. I don't know how rigid they are, but they are permanent and my impression was that they were a key coming of age event (given the young one and all the flap about them not having them yet). It's almost like they are anticipating them to give them some direction in life.

I'm not really an expert on class systems, but in my personal headcanon, cutie marks are not a “coming of age event” - they are something that can happen at any age, the same way you can discover what your passion/talent/purpose is at any age in real life.  I have seen opinions of it being this, but that is not my personal headcanon, and I personally view it as being comparable to realising what you want to do in life, but more “magical” and “children's fantasy” than just thinking “Oh hey, I really seem to enjoy writing, don't I?” or something. 

I do agree with it being treated, at least by some ponies, as being something to “give them some direction in life”, but mainly in the same way that a human might not know what to do with their lives if they not only haven't clicked what they're good at, but also what they enjoy doing above all else – I know it's not always as simple as that in real life, but from a children's story perspective, it makes sense that the thing you're best at is also the thing you love doing the most (or one of them) so a lot of the time, it would make sense to me that cutie mark talents are usually what ponies want to do, as well as what they are good at doing and this is the “fantasy” version of them realizing that. 

Yes, it is allowed to be a “destiny” thing in my headcanon/writing, but that's if we're dealing with an important character who is supposed to be at the center of whatever the big storyline is or something.  It's like how I do feel that the Mane Six's cutie marks were at least somewhat destiny, but it's because I feel like their friendship and their connection to the Elements of Harmony was too, and they are all connected in my headcanon/writing. 

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It may be more nuanced but my overall impression (see above disclaimer) is that FIM is a bit bad at joining the dots with their ideas to add nuances. So the nuances are for people to intuit, but they're not canonically explained. And that's where the issues are.

Again understandable – I'll have to check on how I feel about FiM “joining the dots”, but there is a part of me that feels you're right about this be it on cutie marks or other things.  It doesn't matter too much to me, as we are able to fill in these gaps anyway (which at the end of the day makes our own interpretations of cutie marks equally “right”, even if I am somewhat protective of the storyline – so, fair enough.)  The thing is, as I'm sure someone (possibly you, sorry if it wasn't) said, MLP is a toyline franchise, which ultimately means that you are supposed to create your own stories with it, be it playing with toys or (which wasn't exactly intended, I know) writing about it – the canon versions are ultimately a guideline of how to tell the story, and we are “allowed” to include as much canon material as we like (which could even be no canon at all, it's our choice.)   It is also worth noting (as I'm sure you know) that most, if not all, generations usually have at least two canon versions anyway, and G4 is no exception, so at the end of the day, canon is a guideline if anything in My Little Pony and we are free to take as much or as little as we wanted of it in our storylines/play time.

So because of that, I don't mind too much if things aren't explained, because I can just go with my interpretation of it if it fits in to what I'm doing (and if I don't like the actual explanations, or they don't fit in to what I'm doing, I can still go with my version – and so can everyone else with their versions.)

It's probably true that BG characters are shoehorned into symbol related jobs - in fairness, MLP Tales also did this at times, I can't say otherwise. The difference is that G1 didn't make a thing about 'getting your rump marking', so the fact that someone might have had a symbol that related to their name/job/interests was kind of just an incidental random thing that happened.

True, but not too much of a difference for me, as the only real difference for me is that G4 is the first generation where they're actually earned.  I think Tales did deliberately match the symbols with the ponies jobs/interests, but in a different way – the 7 Pony Friends were at times given interests/talents based on their symbols (as were other G1, and other pre-G4 ponies, and not just in the show) so the only real difference is that G4 (and presumably G4.5 and G5) they aren't born with them, and it's specifically talents (in pre-G4, if they mean anything, it could be anything from their job or interest to just matching their name, or even being a random symbol – both of which can also happen in G4, but with the idea that they somehow match the pony's talent as well... just not in an obvious “face value” way.) 

A lot of the time, even in G4 it's probably just “What goes with this pony?”, though G4 could have had moments where they knew what the talent was going to be, so built the cutie mark around that, but may depend if they even knew if that pony was even going to be in the show?  I think they knew the Mane Six would be in the show, obviously, but even their cutie marks could have been designed first, and had their origins, or at least how they connect to the talent the ponies have been given, later on in development.

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Whether the concept is the problem or the fact FIM doesn't seem to really explain it in a nuanced way I'm not sure. But I just don't really like it.

For me personally, it's nuanced enough, but I respect it if you, or anyone else doesn't like the concept.


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The race issue in FIM for me is another one completely, it's to do with ponies/other species, as I've mentioned before, Colonialism 101 and the like. Imposing friendship culture on other cultures as 'the best way' is kind of tone deaf, especially in the world we currently inhabit. I didn't like that (speaking as a British person from a nation with a horribly bloody history of colonising the world.)

Again I think this is partly because FIM doesn't explain things well, and broad strokes the idea of friendship being the answer to everything (it's not) and the ponies being great ambassadors of friendship (they're not) instead of recognising where maybe that narrative doesn't fit. Twilight especially, as she is not qualified to be the Princess of Friendship. None of them are, but especially not her. (I mean, Twilight and the pirates in the movie...just...no.).

I'm not an expert on history, or even how “the world we currently inhabit” links to this (no offence) but I do get what you mean at least to some extent about the ponies essentially forcing their ideals on others.  I remember seeing someone (again, could have been you, sorry if it wasn't) talking about this before, and I do agree that it's not really a good way of doing things – I'm sure it's not meant to come across that way, and obviously friendship needs to be shown as important as it's the theme of the show, but I get you mean about the ponies forcing their way of life on others, and as such this may be one of the aspects of the show, I will choose not to use, at least not in this way (“Friendship is Magic” will still be a theme, though.)  I'm also not particularly sure of the idea that ponies are the only (sentient) species that correctly “understand” friendship and other species need it to be explained to them.

I also get what you mean about friendship not always being the answer, and maybe they could have emphasised its importance without making it seem like the answer to everything, but from a children's show perspective I can at least sort of see why it's done this way, while at the same time seeing why it isn't always a good message, as not everything can be fixed with friendship (apparently, there was supposed to be less redeemed characters than there ended up being), but I understand why they'd give us (or more rather, the target audience) that dream like idea that it could be – I'm sure even at that age they know deep down that it's not true (and if they don't they will at some point), but it's nice believing that a place exists where it is true... even if it's a made up place in a cartoon.

So it can go either way for me, but I do see the flaws in the way it's done, at least in parts of it.

As with the “ambassadors of friendship” thing, I think maybe it's due to the writers giving the Mane Six too much too soon.  It makes sense to at least make the sort of “spokes ponies” for friendship, as it's the Princess of Friendship and her friends, but have it so it's clear they're just starting out, and learning themselves – although I'm ultimately glad we got the School of Friendship despite how silly the idea was (don't the Mane Six have lives of their own?) as I still liked the Student Six/Young Six, it might have been better to have just stopped with the Cutie Map and have that be what is used for promoting friendship (as best as it can be done) for the entire show, with other type of episodes happening as well.  The Mane Six aren't ambassadors of friendship yet, as they're still young, and still learning about friendship themselves, but show enough hints that maybe one day they could be – in the future, when the show is ending.

The same goes with Twilight herself, I can see how she has potential, and would (and in places does) make a great Princess of Friendship, in my opinion, but the show is set while she's still learning, and at times maybe gives her too much too soon, but it makes sense, in my opinion, to imagine that she is better at it in the future, at the end of it all.  Maybe the show seems unsure how to develop the characters or even if they need development at all – the newer episodes seemed to have the characters going through friendship lessons that, even on a bad day, they wouldn't really need to learn by now, so maybe they were just unsure how experienced Twilight was supposed to be?

(I need to check what happened with the pirates.)

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I like the idea of the magic with pegasus ponies being superspeed and somersaults, although the G1 person inside of me also feels that invalidates Firefly and Whizzer's natural talents.
Thank you.  I never mentioned somersaults though, no offence (and there's no way I'd intentionally invalidate anything relating to the first pony I ever liked – which is Firefly in case you don't know and/or are interested.)

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But honestly I'm really sad G5 didn't give magic to earth ponies. It's a UK-centric G1 opinion but it has always felt odd to me that earth ponies haven't been given magic since G1

Maybe G5 did, and we haven't seen it yet?  Also the G4 earth ponies (which are essentially the G5 ponies too) were supposed to have some magic attached, but I don't really know if they followed through with it – they were supposed to a) have a deeper connection to the earth, like with the plants and flowers, but I don't know if they ever really followed through with that (though, Applejack is a farmer, I suppose...) and I've at least heard that they're supposed to be stronger than other ponies, which not only doesn't make exact sense (are all earth ponies automatically strong?  Can a non-earth pony never be stronger than an earth pony no matter how hard they exercise?) the only time I've really seen this portrayed, is with earth ponies who, due to their lifestyle, would be strong anyway – even my friend and I appear to have fallen into this trap with our fanseries; the strongest pony of our Mane Cast is indeed an earth pony, but is job and talent would cause him to get stronger anyway (in one episode, my friend outright said that at least some of his strength came from his job.)  So, yeah FiM didn't really do that well with what earth ponies powers/magic even is, so maybe G5 will either expand on it, or create it's own ideas.


 
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It's a UK-centric G1 opinion but it has always felt odd to me that earth ponies haven't been given magic since G1. The most magical pony in G1, according to UK lore, was an Earth Pony. It's a shame this didn't happen in the US lore, because Sunny could have been that pony without having to change her species to conform to type. (Still hope that isn't meant to be permanent, but anyway).
Wait, who was this G1 Earth Pony?  I'm genuinely interested in hearing this, admittedly just in case it inspires me, but I'm also curious in general.  It is possible that what happened to Sunny in G5 was meant to be a kind of power up than a species change – like she does that when she needs to, or something, but we'll have to see.  It would be interesting to have a version of MLP where earth ponies do have more magic (again) I'm sure, so we'll have to just see what happens (and/or create our own if we get the inspiration to do so.)

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I never really thought about the role of the Princesses, Luna and Celestia. I kind of saw them as quasi-deity figures, rather than dictatorial leaders. But I don't know whether growing up in a state with a monarchy means I have a different view towards the idea of an unelected head of state. But that could become a political discussion, so I'll leave that there. In essence ,I don't know if they are immortal (if they are, then they'd need to be in G5), but I don't see their role as a problem as regards the sun, moon etc. I like less the idea they have a court in equestria and integrate with the ponies and then make Twilight a princess, because for me that blurs the lines of what we're meant to see them as. But that's a different problem.

Ultimately the idea of whether they are immortal or not, can call under headcanon – it's how you choose to view them.  I personally don't think they are, but they are able to live for a long time in their current state (in my headcanon it's the “flowing mane” alicorns that live for centuries) but they are capable of dying, like from an injury or something (which is implied, I felt, during the Season 4 premiere.)  I actually have a headcanon that they give up their longevity (or immortality if that is what they have) once they retire, and that there has even been other sun and moon alicorns before Celestia and Luna.

I also have a headcanon that princess/prince has more than one meaning in Equestria; a pony can be a princess/prince of an actual place (in the Royal Sisters' case, it's Equestria itself), but achieving alicorn  status, they can also be a princess/prince of “something” like the sun/moon or something like love and friendship, and who knows what else?  Obviously they can also be a princess/prince due to marriage and I guess family as well?

Again, I'm sorry I took so long to respond to this, and hope it's okay to do so.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 21, 2021, 07:10:54 AM
I will not be happy if they give the G5 boys facial hair on the toys. Its so ugly. And some of them have such nice color schemes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 28, 2021, 08:55:51 AM
@MJNSEIFER - I'm going to just touch on a couple of things so we don't continue taking this thread on an unexpected tour of ponyland on its way back on topic but...

I am a historian, it probably influences my reactions to certain things. I do agree in general that MLP is a toy line and I have said that many times, but G4 has a tv show at its core, unlike the generations prior. I have no problem with gaps for nuances unless they create uncomfortable political issues (see Colonialism 101) but because G4 is so show-centric I would expect them to try harder to close those loopholes.

I would disagree that a child's show doesn't need the nuances. If you don't want to teach kids problematic misconceptions then you need to close the story gaps that suggest it.

Onto the G1 question. The pony is Magic Star, as per her fact file entry 1987. Her comic appearances also suggest she can grant wishes and do other things.

http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Magic_Star#Backcard_Stories_2 (http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Magic_Star#Backcard_Stories_2)

Her US backcard story also suggests she can grant wishes, so I suspect the UK team took that and evolved it.

Of course, with G1, we're all welcome to choose the version we want or make our own, since these several canons don't knit together - but I had the fact file as a 5 year old so that was always my impression.

Bear in mind in the UK Majesty was also extremely magical, so if MS was more magical than Majesty, she had some serious tricks in her spellbook.

I guess making this on topic, my Unpopular Opinion is that I don't see either animated Magic Star, nor So Soft Magic Star, as the 'real' Magic Star ;) I like SS Magic Star, I just can't see her as the same pony I used to write stories about when I was eight or nine :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on October 28, 2021, 12:11:31 PM
Magic Star's backcard did make me think she was incredibly powerful.  She gave another pony wings and poured chocolate milk from the Milky Way.  She could probably chose to be a unicorn or alicorn whenever she wanted.  :frolic:   For me, earth ponies were just as powerful as unicorns but it was a different kind of magic for them.  Just as fairy magic and dragon magic might be.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 28, 2021, 01:34:59 PM
I think it's sad that a lot of these lovely magical stories about Earth ponies come from the US production canon, yet they just eradicated it for the animation, and even in the audio cassettes I've heard for the US release (the one with Glory, and the Picnic at PE) the magic thing is weirdly handled.

I'm glad the UK did use some of those concepts, and create some of their own, but...yeah. Why should Earth ponies not be powerful? Come on G5. Make Earth ponies actually powerful.

(I actually really love the idea of them being connected to earth, nature, maybe even seasons or weather. What a shame G4 didn't follow that through).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 30, 2021, 08:54:07 AM
@Taffeta - Thank you for answering, I will try mostly (if not completely) turn the thread back on topic after this.

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I am a historian, it probably influences my reactions to certain things. I do agree in general that MLP is a toy line and I have said that many times, but G4 has a tv show at its core, unlike the generations prior. I have no problem with gaps for nuances unless they create uncomfortable political issues (see Colonialism 101) but because G4 is so show-centric I would expect them to try harder to close those loopholes.
Understandable, it makes sense that ones interests would influence how one sees something at times.  I've basically gotten used to seeing each canon of MLP to be pretty much equal value as each other, and I've had the idea that canon in general doesn't have to be obeyed to the letter, so... I guess that's just how I see things.  I had a lot more to say about this, but I kept going in circles, but it's mostly to do with the fact that (due to starting MLP with the cartoons?) I never really felt that G4s cartoon was any more or less the focus than the previous generation cartoons were, despite MLP being a toyline first.  I honestly can't go any further without rambling and going off topic, so I'll leave it here for now.

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I would disagree that a child's show doesn't need the nuances. If you don't want to teach kids problematic misconceptions then you need to close the story gaps that suggest it.
Agree completely.  I was more focused on the "MLP can be whatever you want it to be" angle, that I missed that I was giving the impression I thought this about children's shows in general - that was not my intention, and I'm sorry.  Children's shows definitely need, and in my experience often have, nuances - I would definitely never write something off as just a children's show or use as reason why you can't take it seriously, or critique it or something (even today, there's kind of an off balance of how seriously children's shows are taken, or how much people allow each other to do so.)  I do agree that you need to be careful you're not giving the kids - the target audience - the wrong message, especially (as I didn't consider before) they might not even know or be thinking of the fact that you don't need to obey canon, they might not even know what "canon" is at that age so the show might be the only version for some (although obviously some kids could just play with the toys independently from the show), but yeah... you are right to say the message has to spread correctly, so thanks for pointing that out.

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Onto the G1 question. The pony is Magic Star, as per her fact file entry 1987. Her comic appearances also suggest she can grant wishes and do other things.

http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Magic_Star#Backcard_Stories_2

Her US backcard story also suggests she can grant wishes, so I suspect the UK team took that and evolved it.
Oh yes, Magic Star!  I saw that about her when I checked her out for research a while ago, I'm sure (my research basically consisted of; that very page you linked me to)  It's just one fanseries of course, but it would be cool if I could somehow find a way to incorporate the magical earth pony side to her character in my project, if I can (I already know that I'm including her at some point...)  I'll try to see if I can find some of her comic book appearances too, basically see which "Magic Star" inspires me and/or fits in to the storyline (but it would be cool if I could do what I said it would be cool to do.)

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Of course, with G1, we're all welcome to choose the version we want or make our own, since these several canons don't knit together - but I had the fact file as a 5 year old so that was always my impression.
Not just G1, that's pretty much how it is with all generations, but in short I do agree that we can choose as much or as little as we want from all canons, that's pretty much what I was saying throughout the conversation, but I guess it got lost in the babble, sorry about that.

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(I actually really love the idea of them being connected to earth, nature, maybe even seasons or weather. What a shame G4 didn't follow that through).
Yeah, it is shame this never really went anywhere, again it's only one fanmade version, but I'll see if I can expand on that (thanks for mentioning seasons, I'll see if I can do something with that - weather is harder, because the pegasi have kind of stuck their flag in that, but... you never know; the only limited to storytelling is our own imagination, of course.)

Again, I'll try to be at least mostly on topic now.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cobblestone on November 10, 2021, 06:06:00 PM
Let's see...

I like flocked ponies. I know they can be disasters if they're not taken care of but something about them works for me. I'd love to try making my own someday.

I don't care for the sister style bodies (are we still calling them that?) The longer legs just make me think of other toy lines.

Don't care for G4. It's not for me. I pretty much exist in G1 world though a few g2s and g3s are appealing to me.

Wish I could say I don't get the hype for certain ponies but I REALLY want Icy Crystal haha I know mimic is always fluxing price wise. Not sure who else is coveted RN aside from Punz (though I know a lot of people don't care for her anymore)

I'm excited about the idea of new classic style ponies although I'm not sure yet how I feel about reproducing the old ones. I can see this causing issues with honesty during sales and I'd much rather see new fun ideas. The old line was limited by what they thought was marketable to little girls at the time but now there's a chance to expand since I think G1 is largely older fans or younger people who picked it up from older fans etc.

Probably not unpopular but I don't like the hard plastic types of toys that are super popular right now will all kinds of toy lines.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 10, 2021, 06:51:50 PM
Let's see...

I like flocked ponies. I know they can be disasters if they're not taken care of but something about them works for me. I'd love to try making my own someday.

I don't care for the sister style bodies (are we still calling them that?) The longer legs just make me think of other toy lines.

Don't care for G4. It's not for me. I pretty much exist in G1 world though a few g2s and g3s are appealing to me.

Wish I could say I don't get the hype for certain ponies but I REALLY want Icy Crystal haha I know mimic is always fluxing price wise. Not sure who else is coveted RN aside from Punz (though I know a lot of people don't care for her anymore)

I'm excited about the idea of new classic style ponies although I'm not sure yet how I feel about reproducing the old ones. I can see this causing issues with honesty during sales and I'd much rather see new fun ideas. The old line was limited by what they thought was marketable to little girls at the time but now there's a chance to expand since I think G1 is largely older fans or younger people who picked it up from older fans etc.

Probably not unpopular but I don't like the hard plastic types of toys that are super popular right now will all kinds of toy lines.


Some people have done flocked customs on here.


http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,401438.0.html
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cobblestone on November 10, 2021, 07:02:34 PM
Let's see...

I like flocked ponies. I know they can be disasters if they're not taken care of but something about them works for me. I'd love to try making my own someday.

I don't care for the sister style bodies (are we still calling them that?) The longer legs just make me think of other toy lines.

Don't care for G4. It's not for me. I pretty much exist in G1 world though a few g2s and g3s are appealing to me.

Wish I could say I don't get the hype for certain ponies but I REALLY want Icy Crystal haha I know mimic is always fluxing price wise. Not sure who else is coveted RN aside from Punz (though I know a lot of people don't care for her anymore)

I'm excited about the idea of new classic style ponies although I'm not sure yet how I feel about reproducing the old ones. I can see this causing issues with honesty during sales and I'd much rather see new fun ideas. The old line was limited by what they thought was marketable to little girls at the time but now there's a chance to expand since I think G1 is largely older fans or younger people who picked it up from older fans etc.

Probably not unpopular but I don't like the hard plastic types of toys that are super popular right now will all kinds of toy lines.


Some people have done flocked customs on here.


http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,401438.0.html
Oh wow!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 11, 2021, 01:42:34 AM
The BF retro ponies aren't really identical to their G1 counterparts, but even if they were, their hooves are marked with Basic FUn and the date, so it's not really so easy to scam someone out of something. If someone's selling a pony and it's not clear, it should be possible to ask for the hoof markings.

The BF release finally brought Medley, Glory etc to the UK after a very long wait (we've been waiting for them since the 1980s, when they wrote them into our comics but didn't sell them here). Whatever happens with the rest of the release, I'm happy with what we've had because of that.

But my unpopular opinion is that I don't think we need them to make every existing G1 pony. And I don't care if we get Mimic and company in the slightest. I'd genuinely rather have Powder and Skyflier and that's 100%.

I didn't grow up with SS ponies, they didn't exist here, so I will always consider the movie star versions the original versions of the characters who exist in both forms. But I do love the SS ponies. If you get a nice one, they are gorgeous :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on November 11, 2021, 07:07:05 AM
Yeah the repros aren't exact 1:1 replicas:

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(80s, 2007, 2017 Basic Fun)

The ones I was really worried would get mistaken for the originals were the small accessories like the pets, but that turned out to be a moot point since the repro pets used Strawberry Shortcake molds instead. (at least Twinkles did... which was the playset they cancelled, was it the Show Stable w/ Brandy?)

I'm not that bothered about them remaking Every Single G1 Ever, either. I'd rather have something completely new :B But I do love the Basic Funs and I'm happy they exist, I just wish their distribution wasn't so messed-up. I never did find the Bow-Tie wave :(
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 11, 2021, 08:02:58 AM
I only saw the Bow Tie wave in stores here in Sutton and Epsom. Literally just those two places down when I lived in South London. And I think Bow Tie I only saw in Epsom. My sister bought one online, but I bought one when I was down there in January 2020, which was the last time I was back in the area.

Even the other toymasters around that area, plus the John Lewis stores, didn't have them.

I've never seen them up here in the midlands. Nor have I seen the CJ wave here, but I've not been out into town for a while thanks to COVID.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Cobblestone on November 11, 2021, 09:02:39 AM
I’m glad they’re stamped that’s going to help!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 11, 2021, 09:42:47 AM
The BF retro ponies aren't really identical to their G1 counterparts, but even if they were, their hooves are marked with Basic FUn and the date, so it's not really so easy to scam someone out of something. If someone's selling a pony and it's not clear, it should be possible to ask for the hoof markings.

The BF release finally brought Medley, Glory etc to the UK after a very long wait (we've been waiting for them since the 1980s, when they wrote them into our comics but didn't sell them here). Whatever happens with the rest of the release, I'm happy with what we've had because of that.

But my unpopular opinion is that I don't think we need them to make every existing G1 pony. And I don't care if we get Mimic and company in the slightest. I'd genuinely rather have Powder and Skyflier and that's 100%.

I didn't grow up with SS ponies, they didn't exist here, so I will always consider the movie star versions the original versions of the characters who exist in both forms. But I do love the SS ponies. If you get a nice one, they are gorgeous :)

I want Basic Fun to make Glow n Shows. I never did find Star Glow all those years ago, and I ain't paying her ebay prices. They're *drumrolls* astronomical.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 11, 2021, 03:05:02 PM
The BF retro ponies aren't really identical to their G1 counterparts, but even if they were, their hooves are marked with Basic FUn and the date, so it's not really so easy to scam someone out of something. If someone's selling a pony and it's not clear, it should be possible to ask for the hoof markings.

The BF release finally brought Medley, Glory etc to the UK after a very long wait (we've been waiting for them since the 1980s, when they wrote them into our comics but didn't sell them here). Whatever happens with the rest of the release, I'm happy with what we've had because of that.

But my unpopular opinion is that I don't think we need them to make every existing G1 pony. And I don't care if we get Mimic and company in the slightest. I'd genuinely rather have Powder and Skyflier and that's 100%.

I didn't grow up with SS ponies, they didn't exist here, so I will always consider the movie star versions the original versions of the characters who exist in both forms. But I do love the SS ponies. If you get a nice one, they are gorgeous :)

I want Basic Fun to make Glow n Shows. I never did find Star Glow all those years ago, and I ain't paying her ebay prices. They're *drumrolls* astronomical.

*throws fakies*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 11, 2021, 03:06:08 PM
The BF retro ponies aren't really identical to their G1 counterparts, but even if they were, their hooves are marked with Basic FUn and the date, so it's not really so easy to scam someone out of something. If someone's selling a pony and it's not clear, it should be possible to ask for the hoof markings.

The BF release finally brought Medley, Glory etc to the UK after a very long wait (we've been waiting for them since the 1980s, when they wrote them into our comics but didn't sell them here). Whatever happens with the rest of the release, I'm happy with what we've had because of that.

But my unpopular opinion is that I don't think we need them to make every existing G1 pony. And I don't care if we get Mimic and company in the slightest. I'd genuinely rather have Powder and Skyflier and that's 100%.

I didn't grow up with SS ponies, they didn't exist here, so I will always consider the movie star versions the original versions of the characters who exist in both forms. But I do love the SS ponies. If you get a nice one, they are gorgeous :)

I want Basic Fun to make Glow n Shows. I never did find Star Glow all those years ago, and I ain't paying her ebay prices. They're *drumrolls* astronomical.

*throws fakies*

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 11, 2021, 03:17:33 PM
The BF retro ponies aren't really identical to their G1 counterparts, but even if they were, their hooves are marked with Basic FUn and the date, so it's not really so easy to scam someone out of something. If someone's selling a pony and it's not clear, it should be possible to ask for the hoof markings.

The BF release finally brought Medley, Glory etc to the UK after a very long wait (we've been waiting for them since the 1980s, when they wrote them into our comics but didn't sell them here). Whatever happens with the rest of the release, I'm happy with what we've had because of that.

But my unpopular opinion is that I don't think we need them to make every existing G1 pony. And I don't care if we get Mimic and company in the slightest. I'd genuinely rather have Powder and Skyflier and that's 100%.

I didn't grow up with SS ponies, they didn't exist here, so I will always consider the movie star versions the original versions of the characters who exist in both forms. But I do love the SS ponies. If you get a nice one, they are gorgeous :)

I want Basic Fun to make Glow n Shows. I never did find Star Glow all those years ago, and I ain't paying her ebay prices. They're *drumrolls* astronomical.

*throws fakies*

 :bolt:

Ah come on, do you think you're gonna get away with a cheesy joke like that without a fakie or two? :P

On topic, I feel like probably the glowing ponies are more fiddly to make and obviously like Mimic the bases are expensive. They do have the poses for Happyglow and Dazzleglow already mind you.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 11, 2021, 03:43:53 PM
The BF retro ponies aren't really identical to their G1 counterparts, but even if they were, their hooves are marked with Basic FUn and the date, so it's not really so easy to scam someone out of something. If someone's selling a pony and it's not clear, it should be possible to ask for the hoof markings.

The BF release finally brought Medley, Glory etc to the UK after a very long wait (we've been waiting for them since the 1980s, when they wrote them into our comics but didn't sell them here). Whatever happens with the rest of the release, I'm happy with what we've had because of that.

But my unpopular opinion is that I don't think we need them to make every existing G1 pony. And I don't care if we get Mimic and company in the slightest. I'd genuinely rather have Powder and Skyflier and that's 100%.

I didn't grow up with SS ponies, they didn't exist here, so I will always consider the movie star versions the original versions of the characters who exist in both forms. But I do love the SS ponies. If you get a nice one, they are gorgeous :)

I want Basic Fun to make Glow n Shows. I never did find Star Glow all those years ago, and I ain't paying her ebay prices. They're *drumrolls* astronomical.

*throws fakies*

 :bolt:

Ah come on, do you think you're gonna get away with a cheesy joke like that without a fakie or two? :P

On topic, I feel like probably the glowing ponies are more fiddly to make and obviously like Mimic the bases are expensive. They do have the poses for Happyglow and Dazzleglow already mind you.

Well I was hoping to, but you've foiled my plans. :silly:

I'm sure they probably would be difficult to make, but there's no harm in dreaming. :good:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Queen Sophie on November 25, 2021, 06:13:24 PM
As much I love all gens, I’m liking g5 more than g4! But that’s not 100% official cause it just started
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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SweetNightmare on November 27, 2021, 01:45:36 PM
I may get some hate for this one but unfortunately I feel like collecting G1's is the least fun and the hardest compared to other gens.
I feel like it may be more to my location (probably the generation 1 was the least available here so not many people had them and even less people have them still) as well as the fact that I just recently started seriously collecting so now there's not as much toys going around as there was a couple years ago.

Finding G1's locally is hard enough, finding them at decent price is even harder and then trying to actually buy them from the sellers...
For some reason a lot of the sellers that list G1's happen to not be pleasant and often enough I will go empty handed because they just are not willing to sell them for whatever reason. And honestly every time I managed to order a lot with G1's in it I stress out if the seller will even send the package to me (sometimes at the last second they cancel my order).
It only seems to be the issue with this generation specifically (similar situations happened with different gens but maybe once or twice).
Just the whole issue kinda sours my experience with this generation and makes me feel a bit upset :sad:

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on November 27, 2021, 02:33:25 PM
You are not kidding on gen on ponies I dont see them here in the states often and most of the auctions go for outrageous amounts.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 27, 2021, 02:39:57 PM
Honestly - as a lifelong G1 collector - I can understand that perspective.

If I didn't grow up with G1 and collect them when they were common and easy to get at second hand sales, I probably wouldn't have so many now. 90% of my G1 collection - in terms of actual ponies - was put together before 2001. So yeah.

I think selling and buying in general was better back when Ebay was predominately private people selling stuff and more geared up to people selling to other collectors rather than some random person who found a pony in their attic and want 300$ for it even though it's dog eared and broken.

I can't speak for any local experiences you might have, but online sellers shipping internationally has always been an issue and there have always been people who will somehow find a way to make it your fault that you happen to live overseas. It is more complicated than it used to be to ship overseas, which hasn't helped, but the attitude sometimes people give over it is...a shame.

I actually don't know what G1s were or were not sold in your part of Europe, and I'm not sure if anyone's done any serious research into it. That may be a factor though. But there is also a culture of overpricing, usually by people who don't know what they are selling and want to make a quick profit.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SweetNightmare on November 27, 2021, 04:02:09 PM
You are not kidding on gen on ponies I dont see them here in the states often and most of the auctions go for outrageous amounts.
Honestly - as a lifelong G1 collector - I can understand that perspective.

If I didn't grow up with G1 and collect them when they were common and easy to get at second hand sales, I probably wouldn't have so many now. 90% of my G1 collection - in terms of actual ponies - was put together before 2001. So yeah.

I think selling and buying in general was better back when Ebay was predominately private people selling stuff and more geared up to people selling to other collectors rather than some random person who found a pony in their attic and want 300$ for it even though it's dog eared and broken.

I can't speak for any local experiences you might have, but online sellers shipping internationally has always been an issue and there have always been people who will somehow find a way to make it your fault that you happen to live overseas. It is more complicated than it used to be to ship overseas, which hasn't helped, but the attitude sometimes people give over it is...a shame.

I actually don't know what G1s were or were not sold in your part of Europe, and I'm not sure if anyone's done any serious research into it. That may be a factor though. But there is also a culture of overpricing, usually by people who don't know what they are selling and want to make a quick profit.
Yeah I do always keep in mind that's the nature of trying to collect something older.
 
I do need to look into buying from Ebay, there were some cheaper ponies but the shipping made them two or three times as expensive. But maybe I just should look more into it to find sellers that sell multiple items that I want and merge shipping costs etc. I feel like it would make it so collecting takes less time but it's more expensive.

I haven't tried yet to get items from overseas but I had issues with people not wanting to send items from one end of a country to another so I'm not surprised that some people may not want to ship outside their country.

I actually mentioned availability of G1's in Poland on another forum post (http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,402370.msg1865815.html#msg1865815), I assume that they could've been sold here but I'm unsure how widely (I know 100% that G2's were as available as any other toy since I was around to see them in stores). I may have to look into finding and asking some older collectors from my country since I'm curious to see other's experiences and learn more about this topic.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 27, 2021, 04:06:36 PM
I'd love to know what you find out. It'd be super interesting!

I've always shipped overseas, back since 1998, but I haven't done any selling since COVID and Brexit happened. We now have a post office 5 mins down the road, which is the irony. But I don't know how Brexit has impacted things. Before Brexit it would have been really easy to ship ponies to Poland, and it wouldn't have been that expensive either. But now we're not in the EU, there's the risk of import duty from the UK.

However you might have better luck looking on German ebay or to other European sellers (maybe even on here) from within the EU, see what the shipping costs are like. I know there are quite a lot of French and Dutch ponypeople as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SweetNightmare on November 27, 2021, 05:43:08 PM
I guess not everyone is able to send stuff overseas (I personally don't have a post office near me and using certain shipping options would mean going to a town near me so in most cases using that delivery option is not worth it for me since paying to get to the spot may costs more then the gain from selling an item).

I most likely will look for some sellers (I do need to probably get an idea which ponies that I want to get first, currently I don't have a proper list for G1's).
I did some French seller that had shipping that wasn't too high (they were mostly selling G2's but I think they did have two G1's for sale too).
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 29, 2021, 08:06:49 AM
I still think g5 is kinda ugly and too g4-ish.

Pipp is kind of boring in colors, scheme and personality. She's quickly becoming my least favorite of the new core cast. She's okay I guess.

I'm not excited about the possibility of the Basic Fun Flower Fantasy set. They're just...there and I wish they'd picked a different one.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on November 29, 2021, 12:47:07 PM
I'm sort of in the middle re: the Flower Fantasies. On the one hand, they've never interested me ("they're just... there" is a PERFECT way to describe them) and I'll almost certainly be passing on them. On the other hand, I do like that they're branching out a bit and going for a more obscure set - I like it when the obscure stuff gets some love.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on November 29, 2021, 12:57:50 PM
I have them all I think loose but if they happen and they have the longer hair I will be absolutely up for it. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Dreamer on January 21, 2022, 04:27:48 AM
Sweetheart Sisters have a nice mold, but I think my biggest issue with them is... the lack of any unique theming to them. Most of them are one colour (pink body, pink hair/purple body, purple hair and so on) and their symbols are either too basic (hearts, stars, flowers...) or too "frilly" (like those bouquet/prom-themed ones). Either way, they don't "speak" to me the way G2 does.

I love unconventional symbols (Star Hopper, Alphabittle) but I don't shy away from more classical ones. The right color scheme can make a pony really pop out, like Heart Throb! I find her "simple", but well executed: pink on pink and winged hearts works for a Valentine-themed pony, and making her a pegasus ties with her symbol and rounds the whole thing together. I love designs like that.

...And with the unicorn craze going on, I really wish a different toy franchise took off and measured up to Hasbro in a similar way Yo-Kai Watch "woke up" Pokémon in terms of popular battle-monster collecting critters. We might not have gotten much from it (YKW is definitely not as commonplace as it was a few years ago), but on the Pokémon side we got some unexpected surprises on Gen 7, so... yeah, Hasbro needs something that makes them go "Hey, we ARE the brushable horsie toy franchise here!!"

Also, I've decided baby ponies are not for me, doesn't matter the generation. I prefer adult proportions better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 21, 2022, 04:44:05 AM
On the SHS subject, Frilly Flower and Fancy Flower have always bothered me.
This is definitely an opinion informed in part by the fact I grew up in the UK where they weren't part of the set. But they just seem so wrong all over. It's not that I dislike them as ponies, just that they don't belong with the other four.

All the others have body and hair the same rough colour, and these two it's all over the place. The names also seem kind of last minute 'what words go with flower' rather than having any proper thought put into them. And Frilly Flower doesn't even have her own earring/ribbon colour, she's pinched Flowerburst's (who already had the 'flower in the name' covered, by the way).

They just don't fit in for me.

And I also think that US Hasbro was nuts putting shs with earrings on backcards with bubble blisters rather than in boxes. What were they even thinking?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on January 21, 2022, 07:40:44 AM
Yeah, as much as I love SHS, I have to admit that their symbols are all pretty boring. Not that EVERY pony has to have a super flashy unique symbol, but the SHS symbols do kinda blend into one for me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 21, 2022, 09:40:05 AM
I actually am fine with the original set of SHS (the two oddballs aside) in terms of their colour blend, but don't understand the point of more or less repeating it, including the colourings, for the pretty ponies. A set that I don't care at all was missed off the US list. It just seems unnecessary. If it was genuinely a beginner pony fan targeted set, at least make it stand out...?

I love the glittering shs and the prom queens, also. I wish we'd had the prom queens here. Even though, culturally speaking, it wouldn't have made any sense at the time of the release.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 21, 2022, 11:12:46 AM
Wish Sprout would have had blue or purple hair. Red/yellow is not an attractive scheme without a color in the cooler end of the spectrum to break it up.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: thebluewolf on January 21, 2022, 12:53:23 PM
I dont really know if this is an unpopular opinion or not but i honestly dont like so soft ponies all that much. Its not the ponies themselves i dont like though, its the flocking. It looks weird and doesnt age well, plus i just dont like the texture of most flocked toys.. Theres certain so softs who i think would look absolutely gorgeous as regular ponies, but they dont look as nice as they could because theyre covered in flocking.. and they never got regular releases, so theyre just forever stuck as so soft ponies which is a shame!

Despite all that though i would never purposefully deflock a so soft pony if it was in decent condition.. Ponies, especially g1 ponies, are getting harder to find in good shape every day so i would feel terrible ruining a perfectly good pony. But i would be lying if i said i wasnt hoping i would somehow find certain so softs with all their flocking already taken off so i could have the pony underneath without ruining the flocking for no reason lol
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 21, 2022, 01:10:11 PM
I dont really know if this is an unpopular opinion or not but i honestly dont like so soft ponies all that much. Its not the ponies themselves i dont like though, its the flocking. It looks weird and doesnt age well, plus i just dont like the texture of most flocked toys.. Theres certain so softs who i think would look absolutely gorgeous as regular ponies, but they dont look as nice as they could because theyre covered in flocking.. and they never got regular releases, so theyre just forever stuck as so soft ponies which is a shame!

Despite all that though i would never purposefully deflock a so soft pony if it was in decent condition.. Ponies, especially g1 ponies, are getting harder to find in good shape every day so i would feel terrible ruining a perfectly good pony. But i would be lying if i said i wasnt hoping i would somehow find certain so softs with all their flocking already taken off so i could have the pony underneath without ruining the flocking for no reason lol


Some people sell deflocked ponies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Wardah on January 21, 2022, 01:15:47 PM
I love the glittering shs and the prom queens, also. I wish we'd had the prom queens here. Even though, culturally speaking, it wouldn't have made any sense at the time of the release.

They could have always changed the name to something more culturally relevant since a prom is just a fancy dance and I'm sure there's some kind of fancy dances you have over there.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: milkywaymochi on January 21, 2022, 02:01:16 PM
Theres certain so softs who i think would look absolutely gorgeous as regular ponies, but they dont look as nice as they could because theyre covered in flocking.. and they never got regular releases, so theyre just forever stuck as so soft ponies which is a shame

Actually, there are non flocked versions of the so soft ponies. If I recall correctly, they were only available in Europe, and were known as the movie star ponies, on account of them appearing in the my little pony '85 movie?  :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 21, 2022, 02:10:59 PM
Oh how eye-sizzlingly bright Movie Star Shady is! I hope to see her IP someday, but that's not likely to happen.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 21, 2022, 03:27:22 PM
I love the glittering shs and the prom queens, also. I wish we'd had the prom queens here. Even though, culturally speaking, it wouldn't have made any sense at the time of the release.

They could have always changed the name to something more culturally relevant since a prom is just a fancy dance and I'm sure there's some kind of fancy dances you have over there.

Mm. Ballroom SHS maybe? The thing is that we do have proms, now, with graduation at secondary school. My sister had a prom. I didn't. So it kind of happened some time between 1998 and 2003 ish? But they could have been marketed as ballroom SHS, you're right.

On the regular versions of the so softs - it only applies to some of the characters, and they're not all movie star ponies, officially. The movie star ones are Buttons, Shady, Gusty, Magic Star, Wind Whistler and North Star. Truly and Cupcake also exist but came in a different set, that was sold in Scandinavia and South Africa but not in the UK or most of Europe.

There is a Brazilian version of Twist (albeit without a horn) without flocking. But the later 2 sets of SS ponies don't have regular versions.

They all came out in 87. I think some of the Movie Stars appeared in the UK in late 1987, but they're officially on the Hasbro list for 1987.

I still consider the SS the variants. Can't help it, it's what I grew up with.

I wouldn't deflock a good ss pony either. But I do own some deflocks, one or two which were done by a lovely person here, and a couple of others from ebay I think. All from damaged SSs. I think I have Ribbon, Twilight, Fifi and Hippety Hop without fur.

Another unpopular opinion coming up but I wish that the Movie Star set had used Ribbon not Gusty. I think that was the original intention, although I can't prove it, because the club art for that year has Ribbon instead of Gusty included with the others from the set. But she never happened.

I don't suppose it's an unpopular opinion that I also wish they made the Paradise that was projected for the UK PE release.

@LAW, I wish you could too. That Shady was such a favourite of mine as a kid :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on January 22, 2022, 05:35:45 AM
They should have had both Custy AND Ribbon tbh, especially as we had Baby Ribbon as well as Baby Gusty in our Play & Care sets (would have made sense to release the mums to go with the babies)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 22, 2022, 12:13:28 PM
They should have had both Custy AND Ribbon tbh, especially as we had Baby Ribbon as well as Baby Gusty in our Play & Care sets (would have made sense to release the mums to go with the babies)

...And Heart Throb??

I would not have wanted to sacrifice Shady for her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on January 22, 2022, 02:49:29 PM
They should have had both Custy AND Ribbon tbh, especially as we had Baby Ribbon as well as Baby Gusty in our Play & Care sets (would have made sense to release the mums to go with the babies)

...And Heart Throb??

I would not have wanted to sacrifice Shady for her.
SDon't blame you tbh, our Shady is gorgeous!!!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Dreamer on January 23, 2022, 01:13:12 AM
So, yesterday i watched the G5 film. I wasn't very fond of the toys but being aware they mostly depend on the film as a starting point I decided to reserve judgement until I saw it by myself.

...that said, I did not enjoy it at all. Overall it felt like a very watered down version of FiM, and I didn't like FiM to begin with, so...  :P

I like to pride myself in finding good things in mediocre children's media, but this ain't it chief.

...I do like Izzy Moonbow a bit, tho. I can vibe with her hippie artistic personality. Again, not digging the toys of her but... maybe I could find a purple unicorn with blue hair in some other generation and declare it an acceptable substitute  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on January 23, 2022, 09:36:46 AM
So, yesterday i watched the G5 film. I wasn't very fond of the toys but being aware they mostly depend on the film as a starting point I decided to reserve judgement until I saw it by myself.

...that said, I did not enjoy it at all. Overall it felt like a very watered down version of FiM, and I didn't like FiM to begin with, so...  :P

I like to pride myself in finding good things in mediocre children's media, but this ain't it chief.

...I do like Izzy Moonbow a bit, tho. I can vibe with her hippie artistic personality. Again, not digging the toys of her but... maybe I could find a purple unicorn with blue hair in some other generation and declare it an acceptable substitute  ;)

You mean like G1 Buttons (non TAF version), who also has buttons as a symbol?

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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Dreamer on January 23, 2022, 12:39:16 PM

You mean like G1 Buttons (non TAF version), who also has buttons as a symbol?

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Yeah!! Is she pink or purple tho?? Card art shows her as purple but I see her toy pictures as pink. Is it the lighting?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 23, 2022, 03:31:33 PM

You mean like G1 Buttons (non TAF version), who also has buttons as a symbol?

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Yeah!! Is she pink or purple tho?? Card art shows her as purple but I see her toy pictures as pink. Is it the lighting?


She's pink.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on January 23, 2022, 04:21:23 PM

You mean like G1 Buttons (non TAF version), who also has buttons as a symbol?

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Yeah!! Is she pink or purple tho?? Card art shows her as purple but I see her toy pictures as pink. Is it the lighting?


She's pink.

The so-soft version I have is actually purple underneath the flocking.  I've never seen the "Movie" (non-flocked UK) version so I'm not sure of the actual color.  But a de-flocked Buttons should be purple, barring any discoloration due to age.  Or maybe mine is purple because it's discolored?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 23, 2022, 04:47:28 PM
She straddles the line between pink and purple, but possibly a shade more to the pink in my opinion. Talking about the Movie star version at least. I can't get at my SS to check, I've never deflocked one either, since it seemed a bit pointless xD.

Bearing in mind there are 2 Movie star versions, one with the large buttons and one with the small buttons and stars.

The Movie Stars also aren't automatically the exact same shade under the fur as the SS ones are, in part probably because they were produced in different years and for different markets. SS Wind Whistler is a much more vivid blue under her flocking than the Movie Star, who is pastel, just as one example.

"Non Taf version" is just as awful a moniker as non-sosoft version, btw. In fact, possibly worse given that the Movie Star came first. Maybe we can just generalise her as 'regular' Buttons instead?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 23, 2022, 07:09:39 PM
I didn't know there were symbol variants Taffeta.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on January 24, 2022, 12:16:53 AM
Yep, there are :)
Both are pictured here
http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/buttons.htm
although they're also probably on the wiki.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 24, 2022, 07:33:09 AM
Yep, there are :)
Both are pictured here
http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/buttons.htm
although they're also probably on the wiki.

Neat. Thanks.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lilja on January 24, 2022, 12:59:37 PM
I love unconventional symbols (Star Hopper, Alphabittle) but I don't shy away from more classical ones. The right color scheme can make a pony really pop out, like Heart Throb! I find her "simple", but well executed: pink on pink and winged hearts works for a Valentine-themed pony, and making her a pegasus ties with her symbol and rounds the whole thing together. I love designs like that.

This is a good analysis! There is something impressive about those simple designs that get it "just right". I think Posey is another one example where the design elements come together very well (she's popular for a reason!)

Also, I've decided baby ponies are not for me, doesn't matter the generation. I prefer adult proportions better.

While I like baby ponies a lot, I do find the G1 babies difficult to collect in a satisfying manner. I love the early idea of babies being smaller versions of certain adult ponies, but it makes me feel compelled to complete the pairs even if I wouldn't have wanted to get the other pony otherwise (especially if it's a baby missing its mom). Plus sometimes either the mom or the baby is HTF/expensive, and I don't want a huge collection in the end. The baby accessories are also super cute, but can be a pain to find and complete the sets. Then there's all those weird gimmicks so many baby sets have. As a result of all this, few babies end up staying in my collection. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Dreamer on January 25, 2022, 12:41:47 AM

This is a good analysis! There is something impressive about those simple designs that get it "just right". I think Posey is another one example where the design elements come together very well (she's popular for a reason!)


Thank you, thank you! :woot: I love analyzing all kinds of character designs!

Now to not derail the topic too much uhhhh I know BasicFun!Moonstone's body colour is a bit greyer than the original's pastel blue, but I kinda like that too  ;)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mrs. Prospector on February 08, 2022, 11:11:39 PM
I think Gingerbread looks better with a slightly yellowed faded color than her original bright white color. She looks more "toasty" for lack of a better word, which I think suits her cookie theme better.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: sunshinedim on February 10, 2022, 09:42:56 AM
Unpopular opinion: I loved the fact that humans and humanoid characters like the witches were in the first generation of MLP. It somehow made the world more believable  to 5 year old me and I.... dreamed of the day Wind Whistler would come to take me away to ponyland.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 10, 2022, 10:14:58 AM
Unpopular opinion: I loved the fact that humans and humanoid characters like the witches were in the first generation of MLP. It somehow made the world more believable  to 5 year old me and I.... dreamed of the day Wind Whistler would come to take me away to ponyland.

 :woot: :hifive:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starscout on February 10, 2022, 10:18:28 AM
I don't really like the sitting pose. Sorry.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on February 10, 2022, 12:23:22 PM
Unpopular opinion: I loved the fact that humans and humanoid characters like the witches were in the first generation of MLP. It somehow made the world more believable  to 5 year old me and I.... dreamed of the day Wind Whistler would come to take me away to ponyland.

To me it was always one of the best thing about the ponies, that they were friends with human kids and let them ride on their backs, especially the pegasi
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 10, 2022, 04:41:19 PM
I don't really like the sitting pose. Sorry.

Agreed!!

On the humans in MLP, I'm on the weird side of no to actual humans but not so troubled by humanoid or non pony characters. I hate the movie witches, they're the peak of annoyance, and never accepted Megan...but I liked the Weather Witch in the comics and she's basically human.

Also a happy birthday to Dreamer :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 11, 2022, 11:53:44 AM
Unpopular opinion: I loved the fact that humans and humanoid characters like the witches were in the first generation of MLP. It somehow made the world more believable  to 5 year old me and I.... dreamed of the day Wind Whistler would come to take me away to ponyland.
I like the idea of the human characters at least, for basically what you said at the end of your post - like it opens up the idea to the kids watching that they could visit the ponies one day, or something, fuelling their imagination.  However, I don't mind that they never did anything further than G1 with Megan-type human characters, and definitely prefer it to be about the ponies, but I do like the idea of it, and appreciate what they were (probably) going for.

One problem with it (as I'm sure I've seen at least one person say on this forum) was that they may have given Megan too much... leadership, or whatever (I need to double check on this, even though it was only last year I got back to G1), like she seemed to be the one guiding the ponies or solving everything for them, despite it being her world, so they should have guided her more?  I dunno, I'll have to check how "bad" it was.

But other than that (and the fact that I prefer it to be mainly about ponies) I do like the idea of it, with the target audience presumably imagining that they could be taken to Ponyland one day... :lovey:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 11, 2022, 02:20:51 PM
I legit believed as a 5 year old that ponies lived over the rainbow. I also wanted a pegasus to come take me there xD.

I didn't believe in santa but I believed in ponies. Bless xD.

But I hated Megan.

Bearing in mind I had only 4 episodes as a kid and Megan is I think only in 2 of them...I think maybe it was more than just her animated persona. I generally assumed the animation got a lot wrong anyway, because of the US ponies/names.

But I flat out ignored Sundance because of Megan, poor pony. I never wanted her because I had a violent hatred as a kid of blond haired blue eyed dolls as well. Being a blond haired blue eyed kid, I did not want dolls that looked at all like me, and all the dolls at that time did -.-.

Fortunately Megan was hardly ever in the comic. There were a lot of other humanoid characters though, like Wizard Wantall and the Weather Witch and Miranda, and so on, and I never minded them at all.

So maybe I just had a lot of hate for Megan in particular.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Dreamer on February 11, 2022, 02:24:57 PM
Thank you very much, Taffeta!

As for unpopular opinions, uhhhh animated pony media has never been particularly good  :P I pride myself in finding at least one good concept or idea in bad media buuuuuut I'm still looking  :work: I like the fantasy adventure aspects but I think they could have been improved upon
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 11, 2022, 03:59:35 PM
I legit believed as a 5 year old that ponies lived over the rainbow. I also wanted a pegasus to come take me there xD.

I didn't believe in santa but I believed in ponies. Bless xD.

But I hated Megan.

Bearing in mind I had only 4 episodes as a kid and Megan is I think only in 2 of them...I think maybe it was more than just her animated persona. I generally assumed the animation got a lot wrong anyway, because of the US ponies/names.

But I flat out ignored Sundance because of Megan, poor pony. I never wanted her because I had a violent hatred as a kid of blond haired blue eyed dolls as well. Being a blond haired blue eyed kid, I did not want dolls that looked at all like me, and all the dolls at that time did -.-.

Fortunately Megan was hardly ever in the comic. There were a lot of other humanoid characters though, like Wizard Wantall and the Weather Witch and Miranda, and so on, and I never minded them at all.

So maybe I just had a lot of hate for Megan in particular.


But Sundance is SO Pretty!!!!!  :wail:.

I mean, I totally wanted her as a kid.  :P
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Dreamer on February 12, 2022, 04:28:12 AM
And here's another one I LOVE the Whizzer pose, and how all tiptoeing legs give the impression the pony is flying/floating in a goofy way. I wish there were more ponies made in this pose
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 12, 2022, 06:15:07 AM
I genuinely blanked her. Sundance is pretty, but I was always like, nope, doll. And that was that xD.

I agree with Dreamer's comment about animated pony media. My opinion of G1 animation improved massively after seeing G4, but I still am not a major fan of most of it. I like Tales for simply being its own thing, I think.

The older animation was as I said before, always 'wrong' for me as a kid. And that mattered. They didn't care enough about the names of the ponies in the cartoon being correct for UK kids, or about the ponies in the episodes, either. 99% of kids wouldn't care about it. I was the autistic 1%. Getting the pony's name wrong was an immediate no no for me.

I use the UK names but there are only a few US names that actively offend me. Sweet Stuff is one of those because she's in the animation under it, and because 'Sweet Stuff and the Treasure Hunt' was one of the 4 eps I had as a kid. I watched it a lot, but every time they said 'Sweet Stuff' it jarred on my ears.

I didn't know Scoops and the Satin Slipper existed, either, nor Milkweed and Tumbleweed, so Ice Cream Wars was a bit mysterious.

Truly and Cupcake were also 'made up' ponies in my mind, though Paradise was in the fact file so I was ok with her.

When I was 13-5 I saw the rest of the pony eps, through getting vhs and borrowing some from a friend of my sister's. The Quest of the Princess Ponies is one of the most horrible spectacles in G1 animation for me. It absolutely trashed the personalities and names of the beautiful gemstone princesses I'd adored as a kid in the comics, so I never really warmed to that at all. Even though the bushwoolies are cute, I don't like them being sold with the princesses at all because it reminds me of how horrible that characterisation is.

Not to mention they don't even get the US names right. Lilac. I mean really. :p

The only exception is probably Wind Whistler. I really like animated WW. But I guess that's the one that proves the rule.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on February 13, 2022, 07:20:17 AM
I'd love to know the story behind "Lilac" and "Score". Normally I'd assume they were just early names for them that were changed after it was too late to fix it for the cartoon, but that's the only place those names have ever turned up, right? I know there's a catalogue page or something out there that lists some early names for the other brothers - Steamer's original name was Casey IIRC - but I think Quarterback is still Quarterback on there.. and none of the *other* boys had their names messed up in the cartoon... so what gives? It really feels like there must be an explanation for them - they didn't just get those names out of nowhere - but where DID they come from...?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 13, 2022, 07:27:58 AM
I'd love to know the story behind "Lilac" and "Score". Normally I'd assume they were just early names for them that were changed after it was too late to fix it for the cartoon, but that's the only place those names have ever turned up, right? I know there's a catalogue page or something out there that lists some early names for the other brothers - Steamer's original name was Casey IIRC - but I think Quarterback is still Quarterback on there.. and none of the *other* boys had their names messed up in the cartoon... so what gives? It really feels like there must be an explanation for them - they didn't just get those names out of nowhere - but where DID they come from...?

Oh Casey would have been a cute name for Steamer! I'm trying to remember who was called Lilac? I don't think we have an actual pony named Lilac do we? I want one now.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 13, 2022, 07:50:47 AM
I'd love to know the story behind "Lilac" and "Score". Normally I'd assume they were just early names for them that were changed after it was too late to fix it for the cartoon, but that's the only place those names have ever turned up, right? I know there's a catalogue page or something out there that lists some early names for the other brothers - Steamer's original name was Casey IIRC - but I think Quarterback is still Quarterback on there.. and none of the *other* boys had their names messed up in the cartoon... so what gives? It really feels like there must be an explanation for them - they didn't just get those names out of nowhere - but where DID they come from...?

Oh Casey would have been a cute name for Steamer! I'm trying to remember who was called Lilac? I don't think we have an actual pony named Lilac do we? I want one now.

That would be Amethyst/Sparkle. Wouldn't Lilac have been better? I don't know *rolls eyes*.

I'm assuming it's a preproduction name, though. Thinking of the Mountain Boys...Ice Crystal and Thundercloud were Frosty and Storm respectively, and Thundercloud's name was still Storm close enough to production to get a tag for Snuzzle's parlour under that name...so that must have been a late change.

I'm assuming there were some copyright issues with those two names, even here in the UK.

I suspect names sometimes went through many changes before production.

I find it interesting that Quarterback's name in the UK was one of the 2 from the first set that they didn't change, yet in the animation...he has a different name. I always assumed they tried to make the Adventure Boy/BB ponies 'less American' when they brought them out. Because we had the Mountain Boys when the US had the brothers, I sometimes wonder if they thought the big brother ponies were 'too american' and the MBs were to be instead.

But then they changed all the names (from 'Big Brother' to 'Adventure Boy').

I don't really understand why they changed Salty to Tug, since Salty isn't particularly 'American'. Steamer, well,  fine, a steamer is a boat, so that would've been confusing. 4Speed...that's not even a name, I'm sorry, although I'm not sure Trucker is a great alternative given we use 'lorry' rather than 'truck'. And First Base I guess because it's a term in rounders, even if it has an awkward US slang meaning - that isn't really a thing here. Slugger wouldn't have worked, especially in the 80s, where baseball was basically unknown here.

The two that are the same, Tex and Quarterback, are both quite American in contrast. Maybe that's why they gave up on 'brother' and went with 'Adventure' xD. But I wondered why they didn't make Quarterback something to do with rugby.

It's just made weirder still given the existence of the name 'Score'. Which would have probably been neutral enough for a UK market, but didn't happen.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 13, 2022, 08:20:00 AM
Well considering her symbol is a flower shaped medallion? But no. Amethyst is fine. And I'd rather have a g3 named Lilac, just because they really upped the details on the symbols then. Purple and green hair, lush two-toned green eyes. A deep purple plastic color. That would be so pretty! But what species and pose?

I did not know that the mountain boys had prototype names? Although I'm glad they got the names they did. Tug is fine with me, Tugboat would have been better. I rather like Slugger.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 13, 2022, 08:25:44 AM
I can't see, unfortunately, on the scan Prance sent me years ago of the Hasbro 1987 catalogue, but it looks like the names might be Frosty and Storm there. I first knew about those names because when I was writing to Hasbro in 1995, they compiled a written list for me which they typed up from their records. I guess from these booklets. But they included those names. Then there was the tag for Snuzzle's grooming parlour with 'Storm' on it, which I was sure I had a photograph of but can't find right now.

I went to look for it on the Wiki and they don't even have Snuzzle's parlour mentioned. Whoops.

But anyhow. It exists. There's a tag for Sunburst and one for Storm.

Amethyst is a better name than Lilac, but Lilac is better than Sparkle :) I am not at all biased :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 13, 2022, 08:30:44 AM
:silly:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on February 13, 2022, 09:03:05 AM
The Quest of the Princess Ponies is one of the most horrible spectacles in G1 animation for me. It absolutely trashed the personalities and names of the beautiful gemstone princesses I'd adored as a kid in the comics, so I never really warmed to that at all.

I know this is probably a really unpopular opinion here, but to me that was actually a better approach to them. As much as I love the British comics, one thing that I realized really bothered me about them is how probably all characters are always stereotypically nice and polite and only show negative emotions when it is justified, like when someone does something bad. What I really enjoyed about the US cartoon is how the writers deliberately made some characters into jerks, grumps or otherwise made them flawed, it makes it much more interesting. Yeah, the princess ponies in the cartoon are annoying brats who need to learn their lesson, and that's why I love them so much.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Heelys on February 13, 2022, 09:26:28 AM
I'm with SpacePinto on this one. Making the princesses spoiled jerks gave them so much more personality-- if we were introduced to them in the cartoon just through Spike and the Bushwoolies being found by Royal Blue, it would tell us so much less about them than the scene of them snowballing into an argument because of Tiffany's hoof polish drama.

Also, one time I constructed an argument about how the princess ponies can be seen as a critique of the regency era and Monarchism in general. Not because I believed it was that deep. But because that sort of overanalysis is really funny.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 13, 2022, 09:57:05 AM
SpacePinto, that's basically like saying the G1 animation was all about tea parties and sleepovers. Which it clearly wasn't.

The G1 comics are full of flawed characters, including among the ponies.

The biggest problem with the animated princesses being spoiled brats is that they are all the same. There are very few nuances in their personalities.  This idea that somehow them being spoiled makes them deeper characters than the comic portrayals is really a bit silly, because all six princesses in the comics had their own personality traits and thus were themselves, flaws and all.

It's not that even in the UK comics, the princesses were perfect or always polite. I'm remembering Princess Ruby impatiently nagging and scolding at baby ponies because she's trying to impress a prince...and Amethyst constantly interfering and messing up everything she tried to do. But the important aspect of the princesses here is that they had individual personalities, with flaws or strengths, and thus were distinct from one another and from other characters in the narrative. Even their dragons had individual personalities, and sometimes, stories where they were the main focus.

I've never been able to see much separation og the princesses in the animation. They go well with the bushwoolies because like the bushwoolies, they think and act with the same mind and exhibit the same cliche behaviour. A spoiled princess is not especially original. Six is just overkill.

It's probably true that their argument gave them more personality in the show than would have been there  if they had not had it, but that's setting the bar for personality pretty low.

The fact they were their own characters with their own challenges and issues in the comics is to me just a much better approach. But the same can be said for the Big Brother ponies, honestly. They have more distinct comic characters, too. They're just not as annoying in Somnambula as the Princesses are in the Quest.

These are both specials from which these characters never have a reprise. There simply isn't enough animated opportunity to give them this more personality you guys are fixated on. The comics allowed the princess ponies about a year and a half of spotlight. Of course they're going to get more depth. It's just common sense.

I feel like you probably can make an analysis regarding attitudes to royalty in the UK and the US interpretations of a few things, especially Majesty. But I have no idea why it would relate to the regency...especially given that damsel hats are definitely mediaeval.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 13, 2022, 10:02:32 AM
Hasbro US-How do we teach rich brats  a lesson about working together?

Sudden poverty?

Nah, that's been done before.

Befriending others not in their social circle?

Bo-ring!

Fleeing for their lives from a pack of power hungry evil lava demons?

Bingo! Give that person a raise!

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 13, 2022, 10:03:42 AM

Fleeing for their lives from a pack of power hungry evil lava demons?

Bingo!

It does make you wonder, doesn't it.

The sad thing is that I think maybe the lava demons had more personality at times. Although it has been a while since I watched it, and I may be remembering wrong.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 13, 2022, 10:06:33 AM

Fleeing for their lives from a pack of power hungry evil lava demons?

Bingo!

It does make you wonder, doesn't it.

The sad thing is that I think maybe the lava demons had more personality at times. Although it has been a while since I watched it, and I may be remembering wrong.

Well, if you count Sunbow's typical power hungry ruler who abuses their minions as having more personality.  :shrug:

That said, I like a lot of the imagery in QotPP.


Especially the reflective gleam on his eyes when he became a crystal demon. And the ice demons.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 13, 2022, 10:20:15 AM

Fleeing for their lives from a pack of power hungry evil lava demons?

Bingo!

It does make you wonder, doesn't it.

The sad thing is that I think maybe the lava demons had more personality at times. Although it has been a while since I watched it, and I may be remembering wrong.

Well, if you count Sunbow's typical power hungry ruler who abuses their minions as having more personality.  :shrug:

That said, I like a lot of the imagery in QotPP.


Especially the reflective gleam on his eyes when he became a crystal demon. And the ice demons.
Well, based on the previously cited argument that being a jerk is synonymous with having more personality, I guess that would make the main lava demon the character with the most overall...

The things I remember from it are the name Lilac, Ruby's silly red tail, the fact the princesses are all basically the same character...and the one song, by rights I should be queen (which I admit is a bit catchy). The bushwoolies are cute, but they're cuter in Sweet Stuff & the Treasure Hunt. And that's kind of all really.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Heelys on February 13, 2022, 12:33:25 PM
No need to get snippy. It's the unpopular opinions thread, we're not gonna agree on everything.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on February 13, 2022, 12:46:11 PM
It's not that even in the UK comics, the princesses were perfect or always polite. I'm remembering Princess Ruby impatiently nagging and scolding at baby ponies because she's trying to impress a prince...and Amethyst constantly interfering and messing up everything she tried to do.

No, I meant more like a character having a meaner streak as an established part of their personality, just for the sake of it. Being bossy towards younger characters isn't even a flaw when you think about it, it is often actually portrayed as a positive trait, a sign of maturity and strength, not to mention that if she only did it this once and for a specific reason then usually she's not even that. I think a good example of what I'm talking about is Gusty. As a kid I simply hated her just because of how she was mean to Wind Whistler in that one episode, but now when I look back at it, I'm actually glad they made her like that because it allowed to stir things up a little between the characters. From what I remember, in the UK comics she was rather friendly and motherly, and the same applied to other characters that were more on the jerk side in the cartoon (like Lickety Split for example). Which brings us to the one problem I actually have about the UK comics (because overall I like them), that while of course ponies did have different personalities, liked different things and did different stuff, they all seemed generally friendly and easy to get along with, the only instance I remember of one of them being mean was Posey calling Applejack and Fizzy stupid one time, but like I mentioned before, she actually had a reason because they were acting irresponsible. Personally, I like it more when some of the characters by default aren't easy to like, when they either have to grow on you or you just have to accept that at best you will reluctantly tolerate them. That's probably why I like the cartoon princesses more, I don't really remember what personalities they had in the comics so I'll just take your word for it, but to me six annoying brats is just more interesting than six ponies that are likeable in different ways.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 13, 2022, 01:06:16 PM
No need to get snippy. It's the unpopular opinions thread, we're not gonna agree on everything.

I wasn't being snippy. I might have been sarcastic. But we were comparing the comics and the tv show princesses. I'm not arguing with your opinion about the fight being important, but I don't see how it related to the wider discussion.

@SpacePinto, I accept your rationale, although I don't agree with it. I don't see the animated princesses as being mean, though. Your argument holds more merit with Gusty, because Gusty was grumpy at times in the animation. But the princesses themselves are just not really...Spoiled is not the same as mean; it's no different as a character flaw than Firefly getting herself into trouble, or Majesty's sending Lickety Split running all around ponyland to lose weight (that is a bit mean, but Majesty DID have that aspect to her character).

I think also that the pony comic had such a balance of characters that weren't all ponies.

But I don't think it's as clearcut as you're saying. Do the ponies need to be 'mean' to have more depth of character? Does 'meanness' alone define depth?  For me, that's a kind of 2 dimensional way of looking at character. Real 3d characters aren't actually 'bad' or 'good' but a balance and a mixture. Being naughty, being impatient, being selfish, being quick-tempered, being disobedient, being scaredy, being scatterbrained...all those are nuanced character details, right?

So Gusty in the animation, yes, she has that edge to her behaviour. But she's a pretty rare example, since most of the ponies in the animation also don't meet your criteria for a 'mean streak'. The argument also can't be carried over to the princesses. They're not mean, just spoiled. If they were, they wouldn't be 'reformed' somewhat by the end of the episode. And even Gusty is sort of put in her place by the way that episode pans out...so is Gusty really mean, or just sharp-tongued? Is she meaner than Majesty in the comic, sending Lickety Split on a futile errand simply to make her exercise?

...Maybe you see my point. The thing is the comics have a lot more time and space to explore characters, both pony and otherwise, that the animation doesn't always have. Gusty gets multiple media appearances. The princesses get one. It's just not a comparison.

Also, the tv show and comic don't always use the same basis for characters anyway. (Nurse) Gusty is not the same kind of character as SS Gusty is in the animation. Maybe because SS Gusty didn't exist in the UK either. I'm not 100% sure if Nurse Gusty is the original or the movie star, but it's still not the same Gusty.  In spite of that, a lot of the UK characterisations are derived in some way from the US backcard stories, which makes the TV show the bigger deviation. (Shady, Magic Star, etc for two examples).

 I just looked up Tiffany;s backcard story. It's not quite Pearl and her crying wishing pearl tears when she's happy, but it does involve her crying, and one of the other princesses kindly coming to her rescue. So Tiffany's actual US box story is also closer to the UK characterisation than the animation.

And we're still talking about 'the princesses' as one entity when we talk about Quest. Which is the crux of my argument. They not only have no character depth, they are not distinguishable as individuals - except maybe Tiffany, because she gets that bit of extra attention. Whether you like the comic personas or not, they are at least distinct and thus can be identified independently by those characteristics.

You also have to make some allowance for difference in English and cultural tendency. American English is more direct, British English is more nuanced. Politeness can absolutely be weaponised in British English, and so you'd be much less likely to find direct, obvious 'bad' in the language use than you might in the US TV show. I'm British, and I've never stopped and thought about the comic ponies being 'good' or 'polite'.

 It could simply be a matter of indirect British English vs the more direct American English of the TV series.

But that's a whole other discussion and this post is already too long, so I'm going to squash it before it wakes my inner language geek.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 13, 2022, 02:35:11 PM
Hmm... I never knew that the Big Brother Ponies were also called Adventure Ponies - I feel that would have been better everywhere, as they clearly weren't any pony's brother, so the name never made any sense.

I guess my ultimate unpopular opinion here by far would be that, even though I love the toylines and wish I'd grown up with them, I am always going to think of the cartoons first (despite the fact I will always think of all "canons" when it comes to inspiration) - I know the overall response to this will basically be "Oh, it's a brony thing...", but I do have a love and respect for the toylines as well, but brony or not, the animations was what I started with, so I do value them.

Also, as something that would count as an "Unpopular Brony Opinion" more than anything... it doesn't bother me when ponies use their hooves to pick things up. 

Bronies seem to make a song and dance about it, when any non-G4 generation does it, yet I actually think it looks better than (non-unicorn) ponies using their mouths to pick everything up, which looks silly to me - and this isn't hate towards bronies, I am one, but I don't see the big deal about this, I actually feel pick up with hooves, and just "accepting" it works better, and looks less silly.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 13, 2022, 02:46:30 PM
They were Adventure Boy ponies in 1988 and then the second set reverted to Big Brother ponies for some reason best known only to Hasbro xD.
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I've never been worried about them picking up stuff in hooves or in mouth, honestly. Thinking of revolt of PE, Paradise takes the paint in her mouth, and I know they redecorate with the brushes in their mouths. But I remember scoops taking the lid off the ice cream with her hoof in ice cream wars. If you have both, use both..?

Unpopular opinion now, maybe? But I don't really like ponies having bridles and saddles.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 13, 2022, 04:38:49 PM
No need to get snippy. It's the unpopular opinions thread, we're not gonna agree on everything.


I'm not being snippy.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on February 13, 2022, 09:56:38 PM
I guess my ultimate unpopular opinion here by far would be that, even though I love the toylines and wish I'd grown up with them, I am always going to think of the cartoons first (despite the fact I will always think of all "canons" when it comes to inspiration) - I know the overall response to this will basically be "Oh, it's a brony thing...", but I do have a love and respect for the toylines as well, but brony or not, the animations was what I started with, so I do value them.

I have to admit that although the old pony toys are cute, to me MLP has always been mainly about cartoons as well, I grew up with the G1 cartoon and then as an adult in the 2000s I also developed a liking for My Little Pony Tales and partially for the G3 videos. I hate it when people perpetuate this fake dichotomy that you can either be a brony and like the G4 cartoon or a collector and like toys of different generations.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponybookworm on February 14, 2022, 11:18:56 AM
Both. Both is good

For me personally, MLP has always been about collecting toys. Hence my dislike of calling the Ponies themselves "merch". They are figures with a cartoon based on them. Merch IMO applies to books, bedding, crockery, & other stuff with pictures of the figures on it.

But if you want to like both the toys AND the cartoons, nobody is stopping you. You like what you like, I like what I like, others like what they like.

Let's all enjoy MLP the way we want to xxx
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 14, 2022, 12:22:17 PM
I guess my ultimate unpopular opinion here by far would be that, even though I love the toylines and wish I'd grown up with them, I am always going to think of the cartoons first (despite the fact I will always think of all "canons" when it comes to inspiration) - I know the overall response to this will basically be "Oh, it's a brony thing...", but I do have a love and respect for the toylines as well, but brony or not, the animations was what I started with, so I do value them.

I have to admit that although the old pony toys are cute, to me MLP has always been mainly about cartoons as well, I grew up with the G1 cartoon and then as an adult in the 2000s I also developed a liking for My Little Pony Tales and partially for the G3 videos. I hate it when people perpetuate this fake dichotomy that you can either be a brony and like the G4 cartoon or a collector and like toys of different generations.

I don't think that's a problem either, honestly. Being a fan of the G1 cartoon doesn't make you a brony, or any less a G1 fan. What I get a bit weary of is just people talking about ONLY the cartoon, as though G1 had one canon, rather than multiple.

I grew up with the comics, and four episodes of G1 animation. As a kid, I adored Revolt of PE, and my strong love for Paradise came from her storytelling persona in that more than anything in the UK lore, because, aside the factfile entry, she was absent. I watched Ice Cream Wars a lot, too, hoping for a glimpse of baby Tic Tac Toe, my first tooth baby - she's in it peripherally - and when I discovered Milkweed and Tumbleweed were real twins I was really excited to get them. I may possibly even have them twice >.>.

The other two were Sweet Stuff and the Treasure Hunt, which I like except for the name Sweet Stuff, and the Would Be Dragonslayer. Which, I don't really like but it's fine I guess. I liked seeing Masquerade and Whizzer in the former.

...But the issue I have is that people talk about the personalities of the ponies as though the animation is the canon, rather than a canon.

The difference between G1 and G4 is simply that G1 has an animated canon AND other canons. G4 has an animated canon, and everything else ties into it. It's not about whether people are more into the animation in G1. It's just wishing for people to be more aware of other G1 media at least existing. Because frankly, a lot of the time people aren't.

I guess this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't really like how US-centric the general community view of MLP still is, even though we're a global community. My childhood pony collection wasn't divided into 'US ponies' and 'European ponies'. They were just 'ponies', and they didn't always come with the accessories the Wiki said they did, or at the time the Wiki says they were/must have been released. I don't want to use US names, and the stories I read as a child and that inspired my imagination are just as valid as the animated episodes that inspired other people. I often feel like people forget that.

As Ponybookworm said, both, all...ALL are important. We're all absolutely valid in how we enjoy MLP.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 14, 2022, 01:26:12 PM
To SpacePinto and Ponybookworm: Thank you.  I'm pleased that you understand in your own ways that I think of the cartoons first, yet still respect, love, and take inspiration from the other "canons".


To Ponybookworm specifically: Yeah, I've taken a dislike to pony toys being called merch as well - toys aren't merch if they started out as toys, to me MLP merch would be a shirt or something.  In fact, I have an FiM mousepad in front of me now - that is merch as far as I can see, not the toys themselves, they are the franchise.

To Taffeta: First off, thanks for explaining about the Adventure Boys.

Second; yeah, I understand the annoyance of people acting like the cartoons are the only canon - some bronies at least, don't get it - they don't get that every canon of MLP is its own canon, ultimately.

It is indeed correct that G1 MLP had more than one canon (off the top of my head; toyline, comic books, story books and cartoons), but the thing is, this is actually true for at least most generations up to and including G4.  Yes, G4 has multiple canons too - the comics and the books and comics are considered to be a separate canon... or they should be - at least some bronies just right off the comics as non-canon, which isn't the correct use off the phrase; they are "separate canon" - I am sure I have explained to them that this has happened with previous generations, that there are separate canons for all, or at least most of them.

That's one of the beauties of MLP for me, you can take as much or as little from any canon or even canons you like, or just create your own completely - it's your choice, your imagination.

I too agree with Ponybookworm's statement - there is no wrong or right way to enjoy MLP, we are all valid.

Thank you, everyone.   :lovey:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on February 14, 2022, 07:08:59 PM

Unpopular opinion now, maybe? But I don't really like ponies having bridles and saddles.

They're just pointless, really. Related, I was thinking of like a... theory? Lack of a better term? For G1's progress:

Spoiler
Horse phase -> Fantasy phase -> Domestic/Modern Phase

"Horse phase" obviously being the bridles and saddles, but also Megan's inclusion. The stable is also very horsey, but what makes it even MORE horsey are the trough accessories! Early MLP feels like "horses, but what if it was purple?" rather than how we know it today. "Fantasy phase" is the mainstream view of MLP. No need to explain further. Magical little ponies with magical little powers living in castles and going on adventures. "Domestic/Modern Phase" is obviously Tales, but also the shift of the brand entirely. From "magical ponies in castles" to "prom queen ponies" and "house furniture playset and pregnant mom pony". G1 is the most baby-heavy of all the gens, but instead of just "babies" there's an emphasis on "families" like, obviously, the Family sets (Sweet Celebrations, etc) in late-G1. A quick glance at MLW (which I know isn't the authority on MLP history, but it's good enough with something like this), early G1 looks like it's mostly adult ponies with some babies. But by year 7-8, it's halved, with a LOT of baby releases... like half adult ponies, half babies. Of course when I mean family I mean "mom, dad, baby", not "random orphaned baby" and "adult pony with her cloned baby self".

I know G1's progress was just a matter of them refreshing the brand to make it more appealing to its demographic, but it sort of repeats itself with the other gens:

G2: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic Phase
G2 started off with basic playsets and themes, went onto the royalty thing, then finished off with a mansion mom and baby playset. The focus on babies as time went on I think also contributes to the "domesticity" of the gen, since if you have babies, you probably will want to roleplay "family" stories. Cooking, school, and gardening playsets as well.

G3: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic/Baby Phase
G3 started off with very simple stories that didn't do much, but A Very Minty Christmas and The Runaway Rainbow gave the ponies more exciting adventures to go on halfway through the gen. Finish off the "Fantasy Phase" with Twinkle Wish Adventure. These ponies are going on adventures across the land and not just planning parties in Ponyville like the Free Media movies. As for "Domesticity", we have the Ponyville playsets-- ponies living in a town, a society, rather than a magical world. Ultimately, the gen wraps up altogether with Newborn Cuties.

Gens seem to have a focus on babies at the end of their run...? Is this a "last ditch effort" to make money? "OK we gotta bring out the big guns, give them babies. Little girls love babies."

G4: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic Phase
"Simple Phase" being the "slice of life" early episodes of FiM, "Fantasy Phase" being the more... "geek franchise" later seasons, and "Domestic Phase" being Pony Life. "Modern Phase" also fits Pony Life, just as Tales was G1's "Modern Phase". Although they came before PL, you could throw in a brief "baby phase" with the... 2 sets of baby Mane 6 merch we got...? :lookround: (The 6-pack minifigures and the Pinkie/Twilight dolls)

G5 has just begun but I wonder if we'll see a similar pattern. Maybe Hasbro can shake things up and give us babies right away. ;)


As for saddles... I think they can be done well on a pony. I like how G4 handled saddles, as a fashion thing. A little band on the back with a frilly skirt. I like simple clothes on ponies, not a button-up blouse, pants, and tennis shoes. Anything more *saddley* is pointless as there are no humans, and bridles are ESPECIALLY weird. At least with a saddle you could have a pet ride on your back or something... what's a cat going to do with a bridle? :brow:

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 15, 2022, 01:27:54 AM
Ragamuffin, that analysis in the spoiler was beautiful. Cookies for you :)

It's interesting regarding the baby ponies. I know there are certainly a lot of babies in the later years. I also remember as a kid that I pretty much could only ever afford to buy babies, because the adults had gone beyond my pocket money level. I would have to save for them, wait for them at Christmas/birthday or use money from those events, generally. The babies ponies at the end of the line in 1994ish were the same kind of price as the adults has been in the early part of the line, at least based on the price tags on my childhood later backcards and the prices listed in the argos etc catalogues for earlier times.

On the saddles, they're reflective of ponies being subjugated to Megan and to human characters. Which is weird to me given they run their own world perfectly well without that being a thing. And them going to Megan for help I guess I also see in that light. Megan is bossy and often quite useless.

...I remember in the Picnic at PE story tape, which is from the US lore (and I still love the song btw), it's all very mundane and unmagical really, and Megan is somehow the 'oldest', even older than the adult ponies...unless they're working in horse years.

I was also quite confused that the tales ponies were meant to be 10 years old. They seemed like young teenagers to me, at least 14 or thereabouts, given their behaviour and the fact this was the early 1990s. While I know kids grow up fast, they don't go to rock concerts on their own at age 10, much less perform in them.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 15, 2022, 07:46:28 AM

Unpopular opinion now, maybe? But I don't really like ponies having bridles and saddles.

They're just pointless, really. Related, I was thinking of like a... theory? Lack of a better term? For G1's progress:

Spoiler
Horse phase -> Fantasy phase -> Domestic/Modern Phase

"Horse phase" obviously being the bridles and saddles, but also Megan's inclusion. The stable is also very horsey, but what makes it even MORE horsey are the trough accessories! Early MLP feels like "horses, but what if it was purple?" rather than how we know it today. "Fantasy phase" is the mainstream view of MLP. No need to explain further. Magical little ponies with magical little powers living in castles and going on adventures. "Domestic/Modern Phase" is obviously Tales, but also the shift of the brand entirely. From "magical ponies in castles" to "prom queen ponies" and "house furniture playset and pregnant mom pony". G1 is the most baby-heavy of all the gens, but instead of just "babies" there's an emphasis on "families" like, obviously, the Family sets (Sweet Celebrations, etc) in late-G1. A quick glance at MLW (which I know isn't the authority on MLP history, but it's good enough with something like this), early G1 looks like it's mostly adult ponies with some babies. But by year 7-8, it's halved, with a LOT of baby releases... like half adult ponies, half babies. Of course when I mean family I mean "mom, dad, baby", not "random orphaned baby" and "adult pony with her cloned baby self".

I know G1's progress was just a matter of them refreshing the brand to make it more appealing to its demographic, but it sort of repeats itself with the other gens:

G2: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic Phase
G2 started off with basic playsets and themes, went onto the royalty thing, then finished off with a mansion mom and baby playset. The focus on babies as time went on I think also contributes to the "domesticity" of the gen, since if you have babies, you probably will want to roleplay "family" stories. Cooking, school, and gardening playsets as well.

G3: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic/Baby Phase
G3 started off with very simple stories that didn't do much, but A Very Minty Christmas and The Runaway Rainbow gave the ponies more exciting adventures to go on halfway through the gen. Finish off the "Fantasy Phase" with Twinkle Wish Adventure. These ponies are going on adventures across the land and not just planning parties in Ponyville like the Free Media movies. As for "Domesticity", we have the Ponyville playsets-- ponies living in a town, a society, rather than a magical world. Ultimately, the gen wraps up altogether with Newborn Cuties.

Gens seem to have a focus on babies at the end of their run...? Is this a "last ditch effort" to make money? "OK we gotta bring out the big guns, give them babies. Little girls love babies."

G4: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic Phase
"Simple Phase" being the "slice of life" early episodes of FiM, "Fantasy Phase" being the more... "geek franchise" later seasons, and "Domestic Phase" being Pony Life. "Modern Phase" also fits Pony Life, just as Tales was G1's "Modern Phase". Although they came before PL, you could throw in a brief "baby phase" with the... 2 sets of baby Mane 6 merch we got...? :lookround: (The 6-pack minifigures and the Pinkie/Twilight dolls)

G5 has just begun but I wonder if we'll see a similar pattern. Maybe Hasbro can shake things up and give us babies right away. ;)


As for saddles... I think they can be done well on a pony. I like how G4 handled saddles, as a fashion thing. A little band on the back with a frilly skirt. I like simple clothes on ponies, not a button-up blouse, pants, and tennis shoes. Anything more *saddley* is pointless as there are no humans, and bridles are ESPECIALLY weird. At least with a saddle you could have a pet ride on your back or something... what's a cat going to do with a bridle? :brow:



That was really well thought out Ragamuffin.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on February 15, 2022, 09:29:43 AM
Good points Ragamuffin!

I had My Pretty Pony first and honestly saw her as more of an animal intelligence.  So Little Ponies for me were colorful versions of the ponies living next door.  It wasn't until the first special that I saw them as anything different. 

Saddles I get because they protect backs from being bounced on. I mean, think about what that can do to a spine if the rider isn't top notch.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 15, 2022, 09:53:15 AM
But that still asks the question, should the ponies be being ridden?

I'm a sentient being. I don't want someone gallivanting around on my back telling me where to go :P

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on February 15, 2022, 10:36:51 AM
But that still asks the question, should the ponies be being ridden?

I'm a sentient being. I don't want someone gallivanting around on my back telling me where to go :P

If we're forced to, I'd agree.

We carry pets, children and occasionally other people if we need to.  I mean, if I was a pony and the annoying two-legger that needed to come along was terribly slow... I probably would.  The real reason I don't carry slow people around now is that it's tiring.  But a pony doesn't have that problem.  It doesn't mean that they get to tell me where to go.  Even with a hackamore, horses still basically go where they want.  They're just choosing to listen to their rider/friend.  But honestly, if it was easy to carry other people who have movement issues, why wouldn't I do it?

Adorable cat and horse for fun:
https://youtu.be/dG0pbTItcDc
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 15, 2022, 10:44:59 AM
But that still asks the question, should the ponies be being ridden?

I'm a sentient being. I don't want someone gallivanting around on my back telling me where to go :P

If we're forced to, I'd agree.

We carry pets, children and occasionally other people if we need to.  I mean, if I was a pony and the annoying two-legger that needed to come along was terribly slow... I probably would.  The real reason I don't carry slow people around now is that it's tiring.  But a pony doesn't have that problem.  It doesn't mean that they get to tell me where to go.  Even with a hackamore, horses still basically go where they want.  They're just choosing to listen to their rider/friend.  But honestly, if it was easy to carry other people who have movement issues, why wouldn't I do it?

Adorable cat and horse for fun:
https://youtu.be/dG0pbTItcDc

I feel like we're probing deep and meaningful issues here, but it's somehow still fun and interesting xD.

The irony of this is that I wrote pretty much my whole PhD thesis around the characterisation of horses in Japanese war tales, several of which are ridden by warriors (both with and without saddles).

But there's one character who on two occasions carries his horse, rather than the other way around. First, across a river, because it's injured. And second, down a mountain, so it doesn't get hurt.

...If it was that kind of mutually beneficial relationship, I can see there's a good reason for a horse to carry a person.

And the difference I guess between carrying an animal like a cat (aside the weight) is that the cat is probably not the one deciding where the horse should go, when it should stop, and so on. It would depend whether the horse was carrying the person as a favour, or whether the horse was being subjugated to the person's will, maybe.

...But this is way too deep for the unpopular opinions thread :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 15, 2022, 11:09:16 AM
But that still asks the question, should the ponies be being ridden?

I'm a sentient being. I don't want someone gallivanting around on my back telling me where to go :P

If we're forced to, I'd agree.

We carry pets, children and occasionally other people if we need to.  I mean, if I was a pony and the annoying two-legger that needed to come along was terribly slow... I probably would.  The real reason I don't carry slow people around now is that it's tiring.  But a pony doesn't have that problem.  It doesn't mean that they get to tell me where to go.  Even with a hackamore, horses still basically go where they want.  They're just choosing to listen to their rider/friend.  But honestly, if it was easy to carry other people who have movement issues, why wouldn't I do it?

Adorable cat and horse for fun:
https://youtu.be/dG0pbTItcDc

I feel like we're probing deep and meaningful issues here, but it's somehow still fun and interesting xD.

The irony of this is that I wrote pretty much my whole PhD thesis around the characterisation of horses in Japanese war tales, several of which are ridden by warriors (both with and without saddles).

But there's one character who on two occasions carries his horse, rather than the other way around. First, across a river, because it's injured. And second, down a mountain, so it doesn't get hurt.

...If it was that kind of mutually beneficial relationship, I can see there's a good reason for a horse to carry a person.

And the difference I guess between carrying an animal like a cat (aside the weight) is that the cat is probably not the one deciding where the horse should go, when it should stop, and so on. It would depend whether the horse was carrying the person as a favour, or whether the horse was being subjugated to the person's will, maybe.

...But this is way too deep for the unpopular opinions thread :)

Well it's not so easy carrying around an animal that on average weighs between 800-1,200+pounds.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on February 15, 2022, 11:54:27 AM
I think that ponies look very cute with bridles on their muzzles.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on February 15, 2022, 12:19:22 PM
I don't like the Perfume Puff ponies.  I'm not sure if this is an unpopular set or not, lol.  I feel like they used to be very unpopular and then had a huge surge.

That said, in a thrift store I once saw a Daisy Sweet with a mohawk and it looked SO good.  Like a Roman centurian helmet.  I regret not buying her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 15, 2022, 01:04:02 PM
But that still asks the question, should the ponies be being ridden?

I'm a sentient being. I don't want someone gallivanting around on my back telling me where to go :P

If we're forced to, I'd agree.

We carry pets, children and occasionally other people if we need to.  I mean, if I was a pony and the annoying two-legger that needed to come along was terribly slow... I probably would.  The real reason I don't carry slow people around now is that it's tiring.  But a pony doesn't have that problem.  It doesn't mean that they get to tell me where to go.  Even with a hackamore, horses still basically go where they want.  They're just choosing to listen to their rider/friend.  But honestly, if it was easy to carry other people who have movement issues, why wouldn't I do it?

Adorable cat and horse for fun:
https://youtu.be/dG0pbTItcDc

I feel like we're probing deep and meaningful issues here, but it's somehow still fun and interesting xD.

The irony of this is that I wrote pretty much my whole PhD thesis around the characterisation of horses in Japanese war tales, several of which are ridden by warriors (both with and without saddles).

But there's one character who on two occasions carries his horse, rather than the other way around. First, across a river, because it's injured. And second, down a mountain, so it doesn't get hurt.

...If it was that kind of mutually beneficial relationship, I can see there's a good reason for a horse to carry a person.

And the difference I guess between carrying an animal like a cat (aside the weight) is that the cat is probably not the one deciding where the horse should go, when it should stop, and so on. It would depend whether the horse was carrying the person as a favour, or whether the horse was being subjugated to the person's will, maybe.

...But this is way too deep for the unpopular opinions thread :)

Well it's not so easy carrying around an animal that on average weighs between 800-1,200+pounds.

Didn't seem to be a problem for Shigetada. When he crossed the river, he was carrying his horse and two other warriors as well as wearing armour.

...I hasten to add this is unlikely to be a true story xD.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 15, 2022, 01:19:46 PM
But that still asks the question, should the ponies be being ridden?

I'm a sentient being. I don't want someone gallivanting around on my back telling me where to go :P

If we're forced to, I'd agree.

We carry pets, children and occasionally other people if we need to.  I mean, if I was a pony and the annoying two-legger that needed to come along was terribly slow... I probably would.  The real reason I don't carry slow people around now is that it's tiring.  But a pony doesn't have that problem.  It doesn't mean that they get to tell me where to go.  Even with a hackamore, horses still basically go where they want.  They're just choosing to listen to their rider/friend.  But honestly, if it was easy to carry other people who have movement issues, why wouldn't I do it?

Adorable cat and horse for fun:
https://youtu.be/dG0pbTItcDc

I feel like we're probing deep and meaningful issues here, but it's somehow still fun and interesting xD.

The irony of this is that I wrote pretty much my whole PhD thesis around the characterisation of horses in Japanese war tales, several of which are ridden by warriors (both with and without saddles).

But there's one character who on two occasions carries his horse, rather than the other way around. First, across a river, because it's injured. And second, down a mountain, so it doesn't get hurt.

...If it was that kind of mutually beneficial relationship, I can see there's a good reason for a horse to carry a person.

And the difference I guess between carrying an animal like a cat (aside the weight) is that the cat is probably not the one deciding where the horse should go, when it should stop, and so on. It would depend whether the horse was carrying the person as a favour, or whether the horse was being subjugated to the person's will, maybe.

...But this is way too deep for the unpopular opinions thread :)

Well it's not so easy carrying around an animal that on average weighs between 800-1,200+pounds.

Didn't seem to be a problem for Shigetada. When he crossed the river, he was carrying his horse and two other warriors as well as wearing armour.

...I hasten to add this is unlikely to be a true story xD.

Yeah, I know.  ^.^ But I sure would've liked to see it. Haha!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Lilja on February 15, 2022, 03:50:47 PM
Spoiler
Horse phase -> Fantasy phase -> Domestic/Modern Phase

"Horse phase" obviously being the bridles and saddles, but also Megan's inclusion. The stable is also very horsey, but what makes it even MORE horsey are the trough accessories! Early MLP feels like "horses, but what if it was purple?" rather than how we know it today. "Fantasy phase" is the mainstream view of MLP. No need to explain further. Magical little ponies with magical little powers living in castles and going on adventures. "Domestic/Modern Phase" is obviously Tales, but also the shift of the brand entirely. From "magical ponies in castles" to "prom queen ponies" and "house furniture playset and pregnant mom pony". G1 is the most baby-heavy of all the gens, but instead of just "babies" there's an emphasis on "families" like, obviously, the Family sets (Sweet Celebrations, etc) in late-G1. A quick glance at MLW (which I know isn't the authority on MLP history, but it's good enough with something like this), early G1 looks like it's mostly adult ponies with some babies. But by year 7-8, it's halved, with a LOT of baby releases... like half adult ponies, half babies. Of course when I mean family I mean "mom, dad, baby", not "random orphaned baby" and "adult pony with her cloned baby self".

I know G1's progress was just a matter of them refreshing the brand to make it more appealing to its demographic, but it sort of repeats itself with the other gens:

G2: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic Phase
G2 started off with basic playsets and themes, went onto the royalty thing, then finished off with a mansion mom and baby playset. The focus on babies as time went on I think also contributes to the "domesticity" of the gen, since if you have babies, you probably will want to roleplay "family" stories. Cooking, school, and gardening playsets as well.

G3: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic/Baby Phase
G3 started off with very simple stories that didn't do much, but A Very Minty Christmas and The Runaway Rainbow gave the ponies more exciting adventures to go on halfway through the gen. Finish off the "Fantasy Phase" with Twinkle Wish Adventure. These ponies are going on adventures across the land and not just planning parties in Ponyville like the Free Media movies. As for "Domesticity", we have the Ponyville playsets-- ponies living in a town, a society, rather than a magical world. Ultimately, the gen wraps up altogether with Newborn Cuties.

Gens seem to have a focus on babies at the end of their run...? Is this a "last ditch effort" to make money? "OK we gotta bring out the big guns, give them babies. Little girls love babies."

G4: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic Phase
"Simple Phase" being the "slice of life" early episodes of FiM, "Fantasy Phase" being the more... "geek franchise" later seasons, and "Domestic Phase" being Pony Life. "Modern Phase" also fits Pony Life, just as Tales was G1's "Modern Phase". Although they came before PL, you could throw in a brief "baby phase" with the... 2 sets of baby Mane 6 merch we got...? :lookround: (The 6-pack minifigures and the Pinkie/Twilight dolls)

G5 has just begun but I wonder if we'll see a similar pattern. Maybe Hasbro can shake things up and give us babies right away. ;)

It's fun to look at how certain themes are repeated across the generations! Hasbro seems to have been pretty adamant about not having anything too horse-themed in MLP after the first year of G1 (even if the Show Stable and Parlor ended up being rereleased later). It was nice to see a brief return to it in G4.

I find it interesting that the final year of G1 (1994) for most of Europe is basically all baby ponies, with very few new adults released. I'm guessing they were the easiest to sell with their low price point. However out of the four sets, only one (surprise newborns) is baby themed in any way. The others have themes and designs that could just as easily have been used for adult ponies. Similarly, many of the later baby sets in the US G1 line simply reuse themes from earlier adult sets.

Personally I kind of miss the human/pony interaction from G1, and it's probably something we'll never see again (I guess Equestria Girls is as close as we'll get). It's obviously something Hasbro left behind a long time ago, as kids are more likely to and are encouraged to identify with the ponies. But to me Megan & Sundance will always be an essential part of MLP. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 16, 2022, 05:13:30 AM

They're just pointless, really. Related, I was thinking of like a... theory? Lack of a better term? For G1's progress:

Spoiler
Horse phase -> Fantasy phase -> Domestic/Modern Phase

"Horse phase" obviously being the bridles and saddles, but also Megan's inclusion. The stable is also very horsey, but what makes it even MORE horsey are the trough accessories! Early MLP feels like "horses, but what if it was purple?" rather than how we know it today. "Fantasy phase" is the mainstream view of MLP. No need to explain further. Magical little ponies with magical little powers living in castles and going on adventures. "Domestic/Modern Phase" is obviously Tales, but also the shift of the brand entirely. From "magical ponies in castles" to "prom queen ponies" and "house furniture playset and pregnant mom pony". G1 is the most baby-heavy of all the gens, but instead of just "babies" there's an emphasis on "families" like, obviously, the Family sets (Sweet Celebrations, etc) in late-G1. A quick glance at MLW (which I know isn't the authority on MLP history, but it's good enough with something like this), early G1 looks like it's mostly adult ponies with some babies. But by year 7-8, it's halved, with a LOT of baby releases... like half adult ponies, half babies. Of course when I mean family I mean "mom, dad, baby", not "random orphaned baby" and "adult pony with her cloned baby self".

I know G1's progress was just a matter of them refreshing the brand to make it more appealing to its demographic, but it sort of repeats itself with the other gens:

G2: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic Phase
G2 started off with basic playsets and themes, went onto the royalty thing, then finished off with a mansion mom and baby playset. The focus on babies as time went on I think also contributes to the "domesticity" of the gen, since if you have babies, you probably will want to roleplay "family" stories. Cooking, school, and gardening playsets as well.

G3: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic/Baby Phase
G3 started off with very simple stories that didn't do much, but A Very Minty Christmas and The Runaway Rainbow gave the ponies more exciting adventures to go on halfway through the gen. Finish off the "Fantasy Phase" with Twinkle Wish Adventure. These ponies are going on adventures across the land and not just planning parties in Ponyville like the Free Media movies. As for "Domesticity", we have the Ponyville playsets-- ponies living in a town, a society, rather than a magical world. Ultimately, the gen wraps up altogether with Newborn Cuties.

Gens seem to have a focus on babies at the end of their run...? Is this a "last ditch effort" to make money? "OK we gotta bring out the big guns, give them babies. Little girls love babies."

G4: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic Phase
"Simple Phase" being the "slice of life" early episodes of FiM, "Fantasy Phase" being the more... "geek franchise" later seasons, and "Domestic Phase" being Pony Life. "Modern Phase" also fits Pony Life, just as Tales was G1's "Modern Phase". Although they came before PL, you could throw in a brief "baby phase" with the... 2 sets of baby Mane 6 merch we got...? :lookround: (The 6-pack minifigures and the Pinkie/Twilight dolls)

G5 has just begun but I wonder if we'll see a similar pattern. Maybe Hasbro can shake things up and give us babies right away. ;)
Very nice analysis!  I can tell it was thought out, and it ultimately makes sense - the only part I'd disagree with is that not only did G4 technically start off with a "Fantasy Phase" (the first two-parter of FiM, especially the second half), and it's always kind of zigzagged (or tried to) between "Fantasy Phase" and "Simple Phase" - I'd even argue that some of the later seasons are more "Simple Phase" than S1.  I think it depended more on the episodes they were showing, or something  - as much as I love FiM, I'm not sure it was always as good at balancing the two; in fact one of the main complaints a friend and I have over the latter seasons is that they weren't really as adventurous as the earlier seasons (I'm not saying there wasn't adventure, but they seemed more focused on comedy, and may not have balanced it as well as they could have done), but ultimately, I feel it always kind of did both "Slice of Life" and "Adventure" from the begining.

Sorry about that, I swear it was just that one part - your analysis was beautifully written.


I was also quite confused that the tales ponies were meant to be 10 years old. They seemed like young teenagers to me, at least 14 or thereabouts, given their behaviour and the fact this was the early 1990s. While I know kids grow up fast, they don't go to rock concerts on their own at age 10, much less perform in them.
I often found myself forgetting they were around 10, though part of it for me was seeing G4 and by extension pre-Tales G1 first, so it was probably fixed in my mind that a 9 or 10 year old Little Pony would be like the CMC (who are around 7, based on an audition script) or possibly the G1 Baby Ponies (who seemed more children than babies.)

I'd gotten used to the idea of viewing full sized young ponies, as at least young adults (that's how I view the earlier G1s, the G3s, the G4s, and I guess now the G5s, in animation at least), but realistically the Tales ponies would be at least young teenagers, like you say, as they're in school.  For reasons you say, the do seem more like teenagers than pre-teens - we may think about being in a (at least locally) famous band and giving concerts at 10 or younger, but I doubt any of us actually did it... I mean, even as a teenager it would be a challenge.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ponyfan on February 16, 2022, 11:09:44 AM


Unpopular opinion now, maybe? But I don't really like ponies having bridles and saddles.


I agree about bridles.  I've always thought they look a bit out of place on MLPs.  On Bowtie pose ponies it always seems to me that the bridle is uncomfortable for the pony and limits their ability to speak, although I assume that magical ponies would still be able to talk while wearing one.

I think it's okay if a pony wants to give someone or something a ride but not if the pony is forced to do so. 

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: brightberry on February 16, 2022, 12:18:40 PM


Unpopular opinion now, maybe? But I don't really like ponies having bridles and saddles.


I agree about bridles.  I've always thought they look a bit out of place on MLPs.  On Bowtie pose ponies it always seems to me that the bridle is uncomfortable for the pony and limits their ability to speak, although I assume that magical ponies would still be able to talk while wearing one.

I think it's okay if a pony wants to give someone or something a ride but not if the pony is forced to do so. 

Ponyfan

I always assumed that since Megan and Sundance are friends that Sundance wasn't being forced or uncomfortable and they had their reasons.  Maybe related to Sundance being clumsy?  I don't know.  I also never thought an actual "bit" was used so maybe that plays a part.  Honestly though, I'm not for or against it.  It's more of a well, I guess this could be an explanation.

I also spent time around horses as a kid and know that a frightened, unhappy horse is dangerous to ride.  You might have disagreements but if it really came push to shove on a ride, the horse will win. We are fortunate that horses are as kind and tolerant as they are.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Apple Spice on February 16, 2022, 03:26:21 PM
I really don't like alicorns. The saddles I think were just made like clothes for the ponies. I don't think they really had it in mind for someone to use to ride the pony. I think it was like if someone was a pony what would be in their closet. Of course, bridles and saddles would come to mind. So they were a fashion add-on and then they were just added to the set for extra items.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on February 22, 2022, 11:11:47 AM
I wish we got a gen 2 cartoon no matter how bad it could be.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on February 22, 2022, 04:28:33 PM
I wish we got a gen 2 cartoon no matter how bad it could be.

That would probably be nice.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 22, 2022, 04:33:26 PM
The advert animation was quite cute, some of it. Although it was just animation, not anything storyish.

They could have included the annoying butterfly from the game as a special friend. I remember there were rainbow arches with butterflies on them - at least I think so.

I think it would've been ok, honestly. People still had imagination in 1998.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on February 22, 2022, 07:11:53 PM
I really liked the scene in the game where after solving the puzzle the orange pony (don't remember her name) shows up and says "Nothing wrong with your memory", I'd like to see her in a cartoon.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 23, 2022, 09:09:49 AM
I actually do like the G5 moulded hair ponies. I can't reroot manes, too chicken to try. Unfortunately, not all pony hair can be dyed. Blind bags are too little. So they are perfect for someone like me to customize. I don't like the joints though. Or the ball joint, and I wish it was more like a proper my little pony head/neck. They seem to have better faces, though I haven't seen the smaller mainline toys in person. So maybe they're about the same?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on February 25, 2022, 01:34:49 PM
I really really want Hasbro to make Fluttershy, Applejack, and Rarity in G5 form! We've already got the other three, so it seems a bit off not to make the others....

Yeah, yeah, I know... More Main 6  :lol: *dodges fakies*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on February 26, 2022, 05:09:00 AM
I like the size of G5 and the body proportions. I like that they have different expressions and eyes.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starscout on February 26, 2022, 10:18:38 AM
I adore the the 2D G5 style (the one on merch/the advent calendar, not the one they're using for that cartoon). I don't care that they're heavily referenced/traced off of the 3D models. It's really cute, and I hope we get to see it animated at some point.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on February 26, 2022, 10:34:47 AM
I really really want Hasbro to make Fluttershy, Applejack, and Rarity in G5 form! We've already got the other three, so it seems a bit off not to make the others....

Yeah, yeah, I know... More Main 6  :lol: *dodges fakies*

I'd like that to be a more unpopular opinion than it probably is xD.

I suspect my opinion that the M6 should be consigned to a massive and permanent bonfire is less popular.

...In seriousness, G5 can't really be considered G5 unless it ditches G4. It's not a new generation if it's stuck in the old context.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 07, 2022, 11:41:31 AM
I'm so disappointed that Hasbro continues to dive deeper into the simplistic, deformed, and butt ugly calarts style that has been plaguing American animation all these years. I'm just glad the toys don't resemble it.  :huh:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 08, 2022, 08:26:52 AM
I'm so disappointed that Hasbro continues to dive deeper into the simplistic, deformed, and butt ugly calarts style that has been plaguing American animation all these years. I'm just glad the toys don't resemble it.  :huh:
There's no such thing as CalArts style unless it actually came from that university in someway, and even then it means nothing, since anyone from said place can still do whatever style they want to do.  It is just a go-to phrase for a style someone doesn't like, nothing more, nothing less - a hater of G1's cartoon could call it CalArts if they chose to, that's how silly the phrase is.

I don't think any style has plagued animation personally, because there's so much variety and different styles - even the ones that look the same (or at least similar - have I ever found something that looks the same as another person's style?) have their own identity to me.

Okay, now that that's off my chest - I hope you didn't mind my outburst too much, I do respect it if you don't like the style of any of the cartoons, so I'm not arguing about that.  I wouldn't describe any of them as CalArts though, even if that phrase did have any legit meaning, like there actually was a CalArts style, but there's not, and the phrase needs to die out, in my opinion.

I'm sorry if I sounded rude in anyway, like I say, I do respect it if you don't like a style itself.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 08, 2022, 12:48:44 PM
Do we have to go over this every time someone uses that phrase...? I agree "CalArts style" isn't the most accurate of phrases but it *is* the most commonly used description of that particular art style, for better or worse.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 08, 2022, 01:06:21 PM
Sorry, I'm just tired of it being used - I mean, it doesn't mean anything as it gets used for pretty much every style, as long as the person using the term hates the style.  At least when people used it to describe the bean mouth style, there was some consistency (it still wasn't correct and I still didn't find any real problem with it, but at least there was some agreement on what CalArts style was.)

Sorry if I've mentioned this before, I'll hope to avoid it next time (it kind of gets to me for various reasons.)  Sorry for derailing the topic as well.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SubmarineHallucination on April 08, 2022, 01:34:20 PM
I only really like G1
I don't mind BBEs, maybe if I saw them with the rusty eyes then I'd be like "Oh eww" but I think they're kinda cute in a pug kinda way!
I prefer the poses where they're kinda chunky, I think it's more charming than the thin, slimmer ones.
I don't love the so soft gimmik and it's a shame because the ponies underneath the manky flocking are STUNNING
Rapunzel is... ok. I'll save my money for Honeycomb or something!
The only MLP animated special/TV show thing I liked is Rescue at Midnight Castle and I wish they had kept that style for the later shows, the later art style and the way the hair is drawn ESPECIALLY look odd to me.
I don't need my ponies to be near mint. I think it's fun to clean them! It makes them feel more special to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 08, 2022, 09:45:01 PM
I disagree that "CalArts style" describes a particular art style.  It's a silly term and it was coined by the Ren and Stimpy guy, who really does not have any room to critique other artists IMO.  God that show was ugly.

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I wish they had kept that style for the later shows, the later art style and the way the hair is drawn ESPECIALLY look odd to me.

Yeah, the MLP 'n Friends hair looks like leeches to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 09, 2022, 06:13:51 AM
Yeah, the Ren n Stimpy show wasn't one of the better looking shows. Didn't he also make that one show with those creepy looking yellow -eyed dudes for MTV?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 09, 2022, 08:20:26 AM
It's being *used* for a particular art style; I didn't say it wasn't a silly term. I dislike it too.

lol I didn't know John K coined it but I'm not surprised at all. Ren and Stimpy's ugly as hell IMO but I respect it for having its own style, I guess; not for me, but they knew what they wanted it to look like and they went for it, I can respect that.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on April 09, 2022, 09:21:05 AM
Ren & Stimpy's art style was so weird. I loved the realistic shots as a kid but they also freaked me out :lol:

G1 animation is... poorly. Is it because it was the 80s? or was it lack of good art direction? And I really hate the artwork of G1 where their heads are on backwards. And that one pose with a backwards head is used today for merch and I just... ugh, why.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 09, 2022, 09:42:14 AM
Ren & Stimpy's art style was so weird. I loved the realistic shots as a kid but they also freaked me out :lol:

G1 animation is... poorly. Is it because it was the 80s? or was it lack of good art direction? And I really hate the artwork of G1 where their heads are on backwards. And that one pose with a backwards head is used today for merch and I just... ugh, why.

Exorcist Ponyland Edition when?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on April 09, 2022, 11:11:52 AM
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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
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Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SpacePinto on April 09, 2022, 05:11:43 PM
I hate the animation style colloquially referred to as "CalArts" as well, those round protruding jawbones and bean mouths are so annoying.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on April 10, 2022, 07:03:21 AM
I am not a fan of the gen 5 toys at all, I saw in one person tiny and I could see the seams.  :pout:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TimeDance on April 10, 2022, 09:09:35 PM
I hate the G3 brushes. They're so chunky and awkward and not really good for getting out any knots. I always go to my G1 combs if I need to brush some hair.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 10, 2022, 09:32:01 PM
I use my Grand Champion brushes. They work way better then 1/3/4 ones. What were the g2 ones like?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 11, 2022, 03:34:47 AM
I admit to using Sindy brushes for my ponies' hair for a long time. I am guilty as charged. We used to get them in bags with pony accessories at the carboot sale so I have quite a lot. Though the long handled bng combs are also very useful. Though I broke one of them combing one pony's hair once. Big tangles. Whoops.

...I agree with the above statement about G5 toys. I showed Dad as well when we went to look at computers, since the toy store is really near the PC store...and he was kind of...meh about them as well.

They just don't stand out.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Midnight Dream on April 11, 2022, 04:53:46 AM

Unpopular opinion now, maybe? But I don't really like ponies having bridles and saddles.

They're just pointless, really. Related, I was thinking of like a... theory? Lack of a better term? For G1's progress:

Spoiler
Horse phase -> Fantasy phase -> Domestic/Modern Phase

"Horse phase" obviously being the bridles and saddles, but also Megan's inclusion. The stable is also very horsey, but what makes it even MORE horsey are the trough accessories! Early MLP feels like "horses, but what if it was purple?" rather than how we know it today. "Fantasy phase" is the mainstream view of MLP. No need to explain further. Magical little ponies with magical little powers living in castles and going on adventures. "Domestic/Modern Phase" is obviously Tales, but also the shift of the brand entirely. From "magical ponies in castles" to "prom queen ponies" and "house furniture playset and pregnant mom pony". G1 is the most baby-heavy of all the gens, but instead of just "babies" there's an emphasis on "families" like, obviously, the Family sets (Sweet Celebrations, etc) in late-G1. A quick glance at MLW (which I know isn't the authority on MLP history, but it's good enough with something like this), early G1 looks like it's mostly adult ponies with some babies. But by year 7-8, it's halved, with a LOT of baby releases... like half adult ponies, half babies. Of course when I mean family I mean "mom, dad, baby", not "random orphaned baby" and "adult pony with her cloned baby self".

I know G1's progress was just a matter of them refreshing the brand to make it more appealing to its demographic, but it sort of repeats itself with the other gens:

G2: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic Phase
G2 started off with basic playsets and themes, went onto the royalty thing, then finished off with a mansion mom and baby playset. The focus on babies as time went on I think also contributes to the "domesticity" of the gen, since if you have babies, you probably will want to roleplay "family" stories. Cooking, school, and gardening playsets as well.

G3: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic/Baby Phase
G3 started off with very simple stories that didn't do much, but A Very Minty Christmas and The Runaway Rainbow gave the ponies more exciting adventures to go on halfway through the gen. Finish off the "Fantasy Phase" with Twinkle Wish Adventure. These ponies are going on adventures across the land and not just planning parties in Ponyville like the Free Media movies. As for "Domesticity", we have the Ponyville playsets-- ponies living in a town, a society, rather than a magical world. Ultimately, the gen wraps up altogether with Newborn Cuties.

Gens seem to have a focus on babies at the end of their run...? Is this a "last ditch effort" to make money? "OK we gotta bring out the big guns, give them babies. Little girls love babies."

G4: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic Phase
"Simple Phase" being the "slice of life" early episodes of FiM, "Fantasy Phase" being the more... "geek franchise" later seasons, and "Domestic Phase" being Pony Life. "Modern Phase" also fits Pony Life, just as Tales was G1's "Modern Phase". Although they came before PL, you could throw in a brief "baby phase" with the... 2 sets of baby Mane 6 merch we got...? :lookround: (The 6-pack minifigures and the Pinkie/Twilight dolls)

G5 has just begun but I wonder if we'll see a similar pattern. Maybe Hasbro can shake things up and give us babies right away. ;)


As for saddles... I think they can be done well on a pony. I like how G4 handled saddles, as a fashion thing. A little band on the back with a frilly skirt. I like simple clothes on ponies, not a button-up blouse, pants, and tennis shoes. Anything more *saddley* is pointless as there are no humans, and bridles are ESPECIALLY weird. At least with a saddle you could have a pet ride on your back or something... what's a cat going to do with a bridle? :brow:

I know I'm kinda late to this, but I really liked this analysis and I wanted to add my own take on this.

I think we can explain the the first phase of each generation as them starting it with something that can easily attract a new audience without confusing or alienating it, so they just start with the most basic things - ponies being ponies. That why we get horse themed things like saddles and bridles, and simplistic playsets and storylines.

At second phase they have already attracted the audience and built up more ideas about how ponies and the world that they inhabit function, now they can get more creative with it, that why we get more fantasy themed content.

As the years pass the original audience is growing up and many of them starts to lose interest in MLP. Third phase is an attempt to keep the audience interest and/or to attract a new one, that why they start to go for things that little girls might like (babies, families, cooking, gardening etc.) or contemporary trends in other toylines or media in general.

In conclusion it looks something like this: Basic phase -> Creative phase -> Modern/Domestic phase.
I think this can also (more or less) be applied to other franchises not just MLP.


About G5, I tried to like it, but I just can't. I think that the toys look awful, I can't stand those weird flat face and skinny stretched out bodies. They look like fakies to me.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on April 11, 2022, 07:14:21 AM
I like G3.5 toys better than G5 toys.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on April 11, 2022, 07:25:27 AM
Aw, I like the G5 toys. I like them better than G4. I think their proportions are better. Plus, the main character is orange and there's a main boy pony. I've yet to see the movie or any cartoons, so this is just based on the toys I've gotten.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Queen Sophie on April 21, 2022, 04:37:56 PM
I really do not like g4 toys, (with the exception of alicorn poses) the main ones seem way too simple and have almost no poses and their hair isn’t fun to work with but I do have some anyway for the heck of it or I got it as a gift
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 23, 2022, 03:28:33 PM
Knowing me, I've probably mentioned this, but I love the term "cutie marks" - I just have so much nostalgia for that term, and it just sounds adorable to me, and I just like the name.

I respect that G1 and G2 ponies have "symbols" and I try to remember to call them that, but I like how G3 onwards used the term cutie marks, as to me it sounds fun, without being embarrassing to say, in my opinion (if that even matters) - it's just cute, and MLP should be cute, in my opinion.

Sorry if I've mentioned this before on here, as I know I talk about the cutie mark thing a lot.  It does mean a lot to me, but I respect that people grew up with G1 and G2 having the term "symbol", but my overall point is I love the term cutie mark, and some people here don't seem to, so it is an unpopular opinion... maybe?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on April 24, 2022, 07:32:09 AM
I think it's a weird thing to be ...is offended the right word? by someone calling something they grew up with different from what you grew up with. I say symbol, because that's what they were called in my gen. I don't mind cutie mark, I just don't use it unless I'm talking about G4 (I still say symbol for G3).

Now if someone is calling them "brands" or "rump stamp" or something weird like that, well honestly I'd just laugh :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 24, 2022, 07:45:08 AM
When I was a kid I called them rump marks because that was what Hasbro called them, but I've come to call them symbols since being a collector online, because it's more neutral and makes more sense to me.

Both rump mark/design and cutie mark are official Hasbro terms, even if they are both a bit questionable.

My personal hatred - and it is hate - of cutie mark is not really the term itself. I mean, there are a lot of silly pony terms out there. But the association between the G4 version of cutie mark and the irrepressable urge of a section of G4 fans to impose their 'lore' on older generations without any respect or regard for how those older gens worked.

I didn't bother about cutie mark at all in G3, even though I thought it a silly name. I literally only started hating it because of the way that section of G4 fans tried to redefine everything pony through FIM lenses without bothering to understand what came before was different, or accepting it for what it was.

In short, all the words I hate about G4, I hate because of G4 fans behaving like numpties. There are plenty of stupid words in G1 as well, after all. And even if it makes me wince, I'm only likely to comment on someone calling a G1 symbol a CM if they're also trying to force G4 lore on G1 at the same time.

Going back to symbol, because it's not an official term for any generation, I find it a useful neutral term across all generations. It really refers to the marking on the pony toy, rather than the wider story behind them imo.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 24, 2022, 08:08:52 AM
It's not that I'm offended by it, I just think cutie mark sounds overbearingly stupid. In the same way that belly badge for care bears sounds overbearingly stupid.

What I am offended by is people using that stupid term for ponies that came before G3. Because of their awful, condescending attitudes towards everything before G4 in general.

"You people who grew up with those stupid girly generations, don't know your butt from a hole in the ground. So you have to defer to my expertise." Which to them means that G1 and G2 ponies have cutie marks, Tales is G2, and that MLP only became adventurous during FiM.

 It's ret-conning and ret-conners are usually both ignorant and arrogant. I find them aggravating no matter what the subject is, because they stick their fingers in their ears and won't listen.

If they had not taken such a belligerent attitude I wouldn't be as twitchy about it, and could happily ignore it, as I did during the G3 era.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: stjarne on April 24, 2022, 08:26:29 AM
It's not that I'm offended by it, I just think cutie mark sounds overbearingly stupid. In the same way that belly badge for care bears sounds overbearingly stupid.

What I am offended by is people using that stupid term for ponies that came before G3. Because of their awful, condescending attitudes towards everything before G4 in general. The I wasn't around back then so that makes me an expert. While you who grew up with it, don't know your butt from a hole in the ground. It's ret-conning and ret-conners are usually both ignorant and arrogant.

If they had not taken such a belligerent attitude I wouldn't be as twitchy about it, and could happily ignore it, as I did during the G3 era.

i always call it a 'cutie mark' no matter the gen, but not because i'm one of those people you described. i grew up with G3, which coined the term in the first place and so it was all i knew growing up. for me personally it just has a better ring than 'symbol' or 'mark' even though i realize that's all people called it back then
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 24, 2022, 08:33:19 AM
It's not that I'm offended by it, I just think cutie mark sounds overbearingly stupid. In the same way that belly badge for care bears sounds overbearingly stupid.

What I am offended by is people using that stupid term for ponies that came before G3. Because of their awful, condescending attitudes towards everything before G4 in general. The I wasn't around back then so that makes me an expert. While you who grew up with it, don't know your butt from a hole in the ground. It's ret-conning and ret-conners are usually both ignorant and arrogant.

If they had not taken such a belligerent attitude I wouldn't be as twitchy about it, and could happily ignore it, as I did during the G3 era.

i always call it a 'cutie mark' no matter the gen, but not because i'm one of those people you described. i grew up with G3, which coined the term in the first place and so it was all i knew growing up. for me personally it just has a better ring than 'symbol' or 'mark' even though i realize that's all people called it back then

Considering that I did not say a word against G3 fans, then I would assume you know that you're automatically exempt from being lumped in from rabid, know-it-all bronies who don't know their butt from a hole in the ground.


For the record, I do a lot of editing when I think of something else to say, spot mistakes, or realize I haven't been clear enough in what I was trying to say initially. Because honestly, I royally suck  talking about heated debates and subjects that annoy me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on April 24, 2022, 12:27:11 PM
Yeah I'm not "offended" by the term, that's silly. I just think "cutie mark" is a stupid term, always did, even back in G3. Heck, I thought it was stupid BEFORE then - Animaniacs used it first! And I hated it then! :P And it just vaguely annoys me to see it around so much... But it only really annoys me when it comes hand-in-hand with the kind of "fans" who insist G2 is Tales, etc.

(I think "belly badge" is stupid too :P See, I get it, they want to have a special trademarkable term for these things, it's a marketing thing or whatever, but... surely they could have picked less-stupid-sounding monikers for them? :silly:)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TarkanDragon on April 24, 2022, 01:00:33 PM
My four or five opinions in regards of pony-related stuff are:

1. G1 is a lot better than G4 (one of the reasons are: it comes to a term about messages.)
2. Weston should kept appearing in later episodes and also have his own toy.
3. I still care for G4 but there’s have been downs and ups in regards of character development. (Mostly for a dragon like spike.)
4. G1 dragons like Spike need more of an expansion. Like; A hometown, families, etc.
5. G1 should be re-popularized again. I know it’s the past but honestly I feel like G1 needs more presence of nostalgia.

Spoiler
Ex. Opinion. (viewer discretion advised of what I’m about to say in regards of G4’s Spike problem). G4 writers should’ve atleast fixed G4 Spike rather than completely making him into a broken traumatized dying dragon. (Yeah apperently G4 Spike doesn’t seem much to be a proper dragon as G1 Spike. G1 Spike had more personality and is actually one. G4 Spike isn’t literarily a dragon anymore he’s becoming anything that his image isn’t really representing to be (and I hate it))

Now, If anyone happen to have questions or wants to say anything about my opinions then either reply to this message or otherwise pm me about it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on April 24, 2022, 01:01:30 PM
I didn't know they weren't always called symbols. Rump mark/design for G1, eh? Well, those aren't bad. I must have picked up symbol from the collecting community then... which would have been right here :P

Offended isn't the right word, but I'm not sure what is. I still think it's a little weird to feel so strongly about it. But on the hand it drives absolutely bonkers when someone mixes up poisonous and venomous or think they are interchangeable so I guess we all have weird things we dislike :lol:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 24, 2022, 04:21:36 PM
I think it's a weird thing to be ...is offended the right word? by someone calling something they grew up with different from what you grew up with. I say symbol, because that's what they were called in my gen. I don't mind cutie mark, I just don't use it unless I'm talking about G4 (I still say symbol for G3).
As others have said, it's mostly because of how some bronies have imposed G4 stuff on things, and made their generation out to be right/superior  and I do get what they mean by this – I have no idea if bronies have literally insisted that people call G1 and G2 symbols cutie marks or anything, but I can get that being annoying if they do.  It is like when bronies actually complain when pre-G4 ponies say phrases like “everybody”, as if it's some undeniable fact that any version of MLP that doesn't say phrases like “everypony” is automatically inferior (which it's not), despite the fact that they likely don't care when G4 ponies themselves fail to obey this rule (this annoys me too, and I love the term “everypony”.)

Not all of us (myself and other bronies) do this, but enough of us have done it for it to be annoying, and for people like me who have a more innocent agender need to explain ourselves further.

My personal hatred - and it is hate - of cutie mark is not really the term itself. I mean, there are a lot of silly pony terms out there. But the association between the G4 version of cutie mark and the irrepressable urge of a section of G4 fans to impose their 'lore' on older generations without any respect or regard for how those older gens worked.

I didn't bother about cutie mark at all in G3, even though I thought it a silly name. I literally only started hating it because of the way that section of G4 fans tried to redefine everything pony through FIM lenses without bothering to understand what came before was different, or accepting it for what it was.

In short, all the words I hate about G4, I hate because of G4 fans behaving like numpties. There are plenty of stupid words in G1 as well, after all. And even if it makes me wince, I'm only likely to comment on someone calling a G1 symbol a CM if they're also trying to force G4 lore on G1 at the same time.

Going back to symbol, because it's not an official term for any generation, I find it a useful neutral term across all generations. It really refers to the marking on the pony toy, rather than the wider story behind them imo.
Yeah, that's pretty much it...  Like I say, I have no idea if other bronies have done this, but I understand the reaction if they have – this is probably why I caused controversy when I tried to explain what I was doing with my fanseries before, but I hope I can one day explain it correctly.

To make an attempt of it now; when I say I am using the term cutie mark for G1/G2 ponies (and obeying G4 cutie mark rules for them), it is not in anyway to impose G4 lore on pre-G4 stuff, I am only doing it because it fits the narrative of the fanseries itself; my fanseries is set in Equestria, so it mostly follows the rules of that place – it is not because G4 is superior, as it's not, it is as good or as bad or as any generation (if I wanted to make my favorite generation superior, I'd be having every generation following G3 rules.) 

The pre-G4 ponies who appear in the fanseries are not literal crossovers from that generation, but are simply adaptations of those ponies in a G4 world (purely because the show is set in G4's world), so they have to use terms like cutie marks, and have to have earned them via talent, because it makes no narrative sense for them to have done anything different – if I had been writing a fanseries set in G1's world, but still included G4 ponies in it, I would have changed the rules for them to fit them better in G1's world.

I hope people understand that I am not trying to impose G4, regardless of what those bronies do, it is just that the narrative takes place in Equestria, so Equestrian terminology and logic will be mostly used, though I am going to use pre-G4 stuff if it fits the narrative, or I can work it in as a shout out (I aim to create a nostalgic feel for all generations, or at least the generations up to G4, even with it being in a G4 world... hopefully I'll explain this better when I explain the fanseries itself.)

But yeah, that's probably what went wrong last time, maybe I didn't specify that it was for fanon only and that I'm not trying to actually impose G4 stuff onto pre-G4 worlds, it just fits in with the narrative here.  Whatever those types of bronies do, I am not trying to do that, just trying to create my own story as I (and my friend/co-writer) envision it.

It's not that I'm offended by it, I just think cutie mark sounds overbearingly stupid. In the same way that belly badge for care bears sounds overbearingly stupid.

What I am offended by is people using that stupid term for ponies that came before G3. Because of their awful, condescending attitudes towards everything before G4 in general.

"You people who grew up with those stupid girly generations, don't know your butt from a hole in the ground. So you have to defer to my expertise." Which to them means that G1 and G2 ponies have cutie marks, Tales is G2, and that MLP only became adventurous during FiM.

 It's ret-conning and ret-conners are usually both ignorant and arrogant. I find them aggravating no matter what the subject is, because they stick their fingers in their ears and won't listen.

If they had not taken such a belligerent attitude I wouldn't be as twitchy about it, and could happily ignore it, as I did during the G3 era.
I feel the same way about “belly badge” to be honest, at least to some extent (at the very least, it's not what I would have called it) so I see where you're coming from... yet for me, I can look at that and think “at least MLP used something like cutie mark, which doesn't sound stupid to me personally (and I heard the term “belly badge” first)... I dunno... I guess it's just an opinion thing and how one takes things... like some phrases can sound embarrassing to one person, but not to another (which I respect.)

But yeah, I understand the hate if there are bronies who do what you are describing, and I hate the attitude you talk about when they disrespect pre-G4  (when G4 is what motivated me to check out and respect pre-G4, which is one of the reasons I am writing the way I am...) but yeah, I hate the condescending view toward pre-G4 too, so my intentions are definitely not that, and I hope that will show.

Yeah, I get what you're saying about retcon, but it can go either way... I mean, my fanseries technically retcons G4 itself (and it's the only generation it does, as it is set on G4's world, everything else is an adaptation), and even then it's not a retcon, just a fanmade version – think of it as a flashy way of me playing with the toys, and creating a story.  The other versions, including the canon versions exist, and I'm not even trying to pretend that I affect them.

I hope I was able to explain it better this time, but I do agree that if people are actually trying to enforce it onto pre-G4 like that, they shouldn't do.  As I say, this is not my personal intention, but I can understand if it sounds like that, due to what some bronies have done before me... I am not like that, I love the previous generations too much to do that, and wouldn't have even included them in the fanseries if I had no respect for them at all.

I do intend to do a proper thread explaining this one day.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 24, 2022, 06:26:30 PM
@MJSNEIFER
..Technically you are absolutely imposing G4 lore on G1 and G2.

But it's your fanfiction, and so you can do what you like.

In short, there's a difference between people writing for their own enjoyment based on their creative preferences and people going around pushing their ideas on other people in general discussion because they can't be bothered to find out about that past generation.

...So long as those ideas stay in the fanfiction, and not in general discussion, they're yours to do with as you like.

But at the same time, setting it in Equestria with G4 rules is not going to create nostalgia for anyone from G1-3. Just by the very nature of it. We don't have nostalgia for pony generations that came way after what we grew up with. You can absolutely put G1 ponies in Equestria if that's the story you want to write. Just you have to also understand that Equestria and G4 lore isn't relevant to every pony fan. It's not that G1 fans might not enjoy your writing. Probably some will and do. Just it's not nostalgic. It's putting G1 ponies in the world YOU want them to be in. Which is fine, you absolutely have that right as its your story. But it's not the world most G1 fans want them to be in. If that makes sense.


Side note - 'Pre-G4' also fits into this same category. It's not Pre-G4, G4 was not a watershed. It was just another generation. G1, G2 and G3 labels exist. It's fine to say G1-3. But please. Not Pre-G4, as though G4 was some kind of weird pony enlightenment from the 'dark ages' of the time before.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 24, 2022, 07:49:56 PM
@Taffeta
If that's the case, then... fair enough I guess, but I'm pleased I was able to explain enough that it is fanfiction and that you are okay with me writing it that way.  I have no intention of pushing my ideas of anything onto others into general conversation, this is purely for fanon based material.

The "nostalgia" thing was kind of trimmed, but I ultimately meant a kind of "reboot nostalgia", like when the new version says or does something that reminds you of an old version -  like even if you don't have nostalgia for the reboot itself and you get more nostalgia from the old versions themselves, it is a nice moment that makes you think of a previous version while you watch this version.  Like the creators of this version are showing that they know and respect what came before them and maybe even having a little nostalgia moment of their own.  I realize that this will be a bonus at best, because, as you essentially point out, I can't control other people's nostalgia and it affects people differently, but that's ultimately what I mean, "nostalgic" shout outs to previous generations (which even includes G4 at times.)

It is also in part my own nostalgia as  I am nostalgic for all generations and didn't grow up with any of them, but for at least G1-G4 (yes, G4) I feel like I did as they all have that childhood feel to me.  That's also what aim for with the fanseries; something that feels like you grew up with even though you know you haven't, the same way G4 felt to me (so does G1-G3, but the thing is I actually could have grown up with them.) Again, I can't control how people feel, but that is what I aim for.  I am of course not trying to say my nostalgia is superior either and I respect that everyone has their own nostalgia.

I will try to remember about the pre-G4 thing - it was more out of laziness than anything and was not intended to make G4  sound superior, and I'd do the same if I was talking about "pre-G3" or even "post-G1" if I was trying to group them together or something, but if it's not liked I'll try to avoid saying it.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 25, 2022, 12:44:17 AM
I wanna go back a bit to the comment about dragons - its true that the whole 'race' of dragons wasn't very well expanded upon in any of the generations of MLP we've had so far. BUT the G1 dragons, aside Spike, that went with the princess ponies, did at least have individual character exposition. Why dragons were working as attendants to royalty in the MLP world however...that is an interesting question. I do also remember some other stories about dragons in comics where the dragon was a bad guy, and I think Masquerade dressed up as one at one point as well. But the key point about all the dragons that hasbro made into toys is they are all 'baby' dragons. So it seems like baby dragons become royal pages at some point in their early life...the question is probably why.

@MJSNEIFER, we will just have to disagree on that, since there's literally nothing in G4, including its G1 references, that I personally would find nostalgic or even consider a proper shout out to G1. Frankly, I'd be happier if G4 had left G1 alone and not tried to piggyback its ideas from time to time. It came over to me more as laziness on the part of the writers not being able to come up with their own ideas than a nod to G1 - most especially and recently in that horrible comic whatever it was where the writers clearly had no clue about G1 and just threw it in there for whatever reason.

It's like the Jem movie. Unnecessary.

...There are a bunch of videos about wrecking 1980s nostalgia by insisting on forcing them into reboots and reinventing them for modern audiences. G4 is actually not the worst offender in this category compared to some of the others, but because that section of the G4 fandom tried so very hard to overwrite existing pony stuff with their own and were so hostile about it, it makes it hard to appreciate older gen references in the way that perhaps they were intended.

Again it probably comes down to the disgusting behaviour of that section of bronies. Although I think there's also a weariness from those of us who actually grew up with some of these 1980s classics that there are simply too many attempts to engage 'nostalgia' or 'retro' ideas by rewriting old stuff into a new and shiny format for the modern age.

But none of this means your story is invalid, or that you are wrong. It's simply that people have different perceptions on this based on their own preferences and opinions.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TarkanDragon on April 25, 2022, 10:03:24 AM
I wanna go back a bit to the comment about dragons - its true that the whole 'race' of dragons wasn't very well expanded upon in any of the generations of MLP we've had so far. BUT the G1 dragons, aside Spike, that went with the princess ponies, did at least have individual character exposition. Why dragons were working as attendants to royalty in the MLP world however...that is an interesting question. I do also remember some other stories about dragons in comics where the dragon was a bad guy, and I think Masquerade dressed up as one at one point as well. But the key point about all the dragons that hasbro made into toys is they are all 'baby' dragons. So it seems like baby dragons become royal pages at some point in their early life...the question is probably why.

Honestly I do see a point of what you're saying... Although the other 6 dragons from the UK comics haven't described how they act or what are their relatives... I mean I wish that the dragons from the comics have more story to them like how they assembled the Paws and Claws club... I know there's a tumblr account where the comic scans happen. Although there's several comics that haven't been scanned like the majesty and spike comic one.

However I'd get the feeling that "baby" dragons wasn't quite enough for G1, even though there are different types of G1 dragons... Just like Danny once said in the Spike's Search episode: "Look at how many different types of ponies there are. Earth Ponies, pegasi, flutter ponies. So there are probably all different kinds of dragons, too.". Then again we don't even have a given name of a subspecies of the dragons in G1... Although despite of baby dragons being a royalty to MLP is quite a pitch... But can there be Adult dragons in the same subspecies like Spike. I mean don't get confused with the King Koopa-like Dragons than the Goofy-looking ones. I mean we kinda saw or imagine what an adult dragon that matches Spike's subspecies... Even though it was a short bit cause it's in part of the song but still... And oh I have another thing to mention is that we actually saw Spike with wings in one or two of the Promo posters... we haven't getten a clear image of the portrait itself... Although maybe it's another way of seeing what an adult dragon looks like... There's so much to talk about and so much to discover... But if there's by any chance in the writers guide mention something about Spike and have some information like how Megan has been described as a 13-year old and her last name was williams... I'm highly sure Spike has the same thing as well but it hasn't been posted online or actually exposed yet... Although there's some people like "Wildshadow" or "Omnishadow" happen to have one of those Writers guide books... But they can't show any more stuff from the book anymore... I mean honestly I wish that we could get more with the information from the guide itself.

So yeah... I mean sorry if I'd happen to change the subject at one point... I mean if you happen to have any more answers or questions then ask away or explain either why...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 25, 2022, 01:39:31 PM
I have most of the comics, certainly 98% of the ones that would involve spike and the baby dragons, and all the annuals and stuff from the UK release, but I would need to go through all of them meticulously to see how they handled dragons in general, and whether there's any information on other species of dragon beyond the baby dragons in the paws and claws club (I thought of this too, but the story I remember most is the multiparter where they team up to rescue the kidnapped princess ponies).

I don't remember much about the animation version of the dragons since I wasn't that keen on Spike's Search and though I had the wouldbe dragonslayer as a kid, I wasn't interested in it as much as the other episodes. To go out on a limb, there's the story of Squire and the Dragon from MLP Tales (I think that's right?) that Patch tells at the sleepover (?). 

...But I think it's interesting all the same, thank you for raising it as a point of consideration :) I never really thought about WHY the baby dragons were with the princesses except I remember Smokey was the youngest and so was with Sapphire, the wisest princess, so she could look after him as much as he looked after her. So there must be some deeper reciprocal of of some kind between royal ponies and dragons (not that Majesty is ever exactly called Queen, I don't think, but still).

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Moonbreeze on April 25, 2022, 02:23:10 PM
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 :biggrin: *cue tubular bells*

Yikes, WHAT happened to that poor Applejack?  :yikes: (No-neck Applejack)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 25, 2022, 03:59:41 PM
@MJSNEIFER, we will just have to disagree on that, since there's literally nothing in G4, including its G1 references, that I personally would find nostalgic or even consider a proper shout out to G1. Frankly, I'd be happier if G4 had left G1 alone and not tried to piggyback its ideas from time to time. It came over to me more as laziness on the part of the writers not being able to come up with their own ideas than a nod to G1 - most especially and recently in that horrible comic whatever it was where the writers clearly had no clue about G1 and just threw it in there for whatever reason.

It's like the Jem movie. Unnecessary.

...There are a bunch of videos about wrecking 1980s nostalgia by insisting on forcing them into reboots and reinventing them for modern audiences. G4 is actually not the worst offender in this category compared to some of the others, but because that section of the G4 fandom tried so very hard to overwrite existing pony stuff with their own and were so hostile about it, it makes it hard to appreciate older gen references in the way that perhaps they were intended.

Again it probably comes down to the disgusting behaviour of that section of bronies. Although I think there's also a weariness from those of us who actually grew up with some of these 1980s classics that there are simply too many attempts to engage 'nostalgia' or 'retro' ideas by rewriting old stuff into a new and shiny format for the modern age.

But none of this means your story is invalid, or that you are wrong. It's simply that people have different perceptions on this based on their own preferences and opinions.
That's it exactly; we all have different ideas of what is nostalgic, so I respect your view, and I can see you respect mine, despite it not matching yours.  For me, G4 is nostalgic, for you it's not... I respect that.

But yeah, I do agree that G4 itself didn't do G1/G3 shout outs well.  I personally would have much rather they'd done what I was talking about, and given some actual nostalgic shout outs to the previous generations in a kind of "made by fans, for the fans" kind of thing... I actually thought that's what they were doing in Season 1 and Season 2, but I think I was just seeing what I wanted to see.  Around Season 4 when they actually included G1 and G3 stuff, it was basically new things with the same name... which I guess is fine, as it's a new generation, but it would have been nice for them to be close to the originals... for me anyway (if you'd rather they'd not even done that, I respect that.)

But yeah, maybe they weren't trying to be nostalgic for G1-G3, but it would have been nice (IMO) if they did, and that's what I'd have done.  Pretty much every time they have done a G1-G3 thing they haven't really tried to remind us of the original version... this was obvious to me when the Breezies and Tirek were included, and I was disappointed that they weren't at least vaguely similar to the originals in at a "shout out" kind of way - they didn't have to be, but I'd have liked them to have been.

It is a shame that those kind of bronies tainted the idea of it... if I could have done more to stop them, I would have done.  I myself have no interest with any of my "reboots" of "updating things for the modern age" - that is not the purpose of reboots for me, so that is not my intention.

But you are indeed right to say that it all depends on our own perceptions and opinions, so like I say, I do respect yours, and I'm thankful your were respectful towards mine.  So yeah, agreeing to disagree is fine.  :good:

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on April 25, 2022, 10:46:49 PM
Not sure if My Little Pony is "My Little Pony" anymore. It's more like "Lauren Faust's Little Ponies" or whoever's writing whatever nowadays. Drop MLP from the title. "Friendship is Magic". "A New Generation". "Tell Your Tale", "Make Your Mark".

MLP G1-3 is YOUR Little Pony. Everyone had a unique experience with their childhood ponies. If you had friends or peers who were into MLP, you probably didn't have the same exact collections, even then, how did you obtain said ponies? How you got the ponies is part the experience. Even if you met someone else with the same pony as you, you probably had a different personality for her, a completely different character. Everyone had their own stories. Not everyone had access to the VHSes or were able to catch MLP on TV, and a lot of people probably didn't even know there was animated media out, or comics. MLP, believe it or not, is a toy, these ponies are dolls. They are no different from Barbie, really, where you make up your own characters and your own stories. Especially when talking about G1 when rereleases of a character were rare and most of the ponies were unique designs and characters, there was no way to fit them all into a piece of media, and a lot of them don't have deep pre-set personalities. You had to make everything up yourself. My experience with MLP is being like "yeah that's a neat idea", seeing it from a story or something, and reenacting something similar. Not 1:1, and that would only be a single story, not everything I did with my ponies was like that.

I see kids online now who grew up with G3, which cool, I was a G3 kid too basically, but it's obvious they grew up with only the DVDs, because they focus on only MLP from around 2007. The era where the main characters were Minty, Rainbow Dash, and Pinkie Pie, and later, the Core 7. We're starting to move away from the "personalized" approach MLP had and going into the "prebuilt" era where everything has to be a certain way. G4 made this worse and worse, and G5 is continuing this "prebuilt"-ness.

Spoiler
Slightly off topic but related to the above, as an example: Most kids nowadays would think of G3 Pinkie as a leader-type, but not me. From the earliest stories and back cards, Pinkie was made out to be the "little sister" type, and I liked that, so I kept it with my own stories, and it's shaped my entire view of the character. I can not for the life of me ship Pinkie/Minty when I perceive Minty as an adult and Pinkie is... kid-ish. Star Catcher doesn't have much of a personality in the media, but I guess she's usually portrayed as a regal goddess in fanworks. Which she is, obviously, but MY Star Catcher was also very vain, snobby, and stories involving her would end up with her learning to have some humility. Those are the most stand-out examples I can think of, but all of MY ponies were different from the """canon""" ones.

Not saying it's bad or wrong, I mean, Care Bears and others have this approach with a single set of characters, but it's not MY Little Pony and it's not YOUR Little Pony. I guess you could say people making fanfics of random background ponies in FiM is more MLP-y than anything else, but I do think being on the internet sours things a bit? Like the closed-ness of having your own ponies in your own room making up your own stories, alone or with a friend, it's different than having a thousands-of-views YouTube video of OCs. MLP is such a nostalgia thing, fueled by whimsy and childhood innocence, adults RPing with their OCs isn't the same.

Again, nothing wrong... just Old Man Yells at Cloud
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TarkanDragon on April 25, 2022, 11:03:38 PM
I have most of the comics, certainly 98% of the ones that would involve spike and the baby dragons, and all the annuals and stuff from the UK release, but I would need to go through all of them meticulously to see how they handled dragons in general, and whether there's any information on other species of dragon beyond the baby dragons in the paws and claws club (I thought of this too, but the story I remember most is the multiparter where they team up to rescue the kidnapped princess ponies).

I don't remember much about the animation version of the dragons since I wasn't that keen on Spike's Search and though I had the wouldbe dragonslayer as a kid, I wasn't interested in it as much as the other episodes. To go out on a limb, there's the story of Squire and the Dragon from MLP Tales (I think that's right?) that Patch tells at the sleepover (?). 

...But I think it's interesting all the same, thank you for raising it as a point of consideration :) I never really thought about WHY the baby dragons were with the princesses except I remember Smokey was the youngest and so was with Sapphire, the wisest princess, so she could look after him as much as he looked after her. So there must be some deeper reciprocal of of some kind between royal ponies and dragons (not that Majesty is ever exactly called Queen, I don't think, but still).

Great, I mean not sure if you would scan them so you could show them and then I could see for myself or anyone, I mean honestly that's there's more stuff that I haven't seen in the "Heckyeahponyscans" site... And there's some comics that haven't been scanned to be posted on the site... I mean if you could try to scan your comics that you've got and then at least PM me or make a new thread for those scans that you took. I mean honestly I'm kinda dying to know more about the Paws and Claws Club since it's a really great spin-off of the My Little Pony Franchise...

I understand that you weren't interested in Spike's Search episode and went with Wanna be a Dragonslayer episode. Although MLP Tales had no dragons except one episode... I mean MLP Tales left out dragonless. Not to mention there's an Unnamed G2 Dragon toy that is a mysterious to the community... Overall I think it's safe to say that sometimes when trying to apply dragons to the show is kind of the odds either happening big or small... There's not much to explain about it, but it kinda gives out of how Hasbro picks them up at one point. So yeah...

And you're welcome, even though I thought at first it wasn't a point but then it turned out to be a point of something. But anyways, you're welcome and take care.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Zapper on April 26, 2022, 03:30:44 AM
Not sure if My Little Pony is "My Little Pony" anymore. It's more like "Lauren Faust's Little Ponies" or whoever's writing whatever nowadays. Drop MLP from the title. "Friendship is Magic". "A New Generation". "Tell Your Tale", "Make Your Mark".

Spoiler
MLP G1-3 is YOUR Little Pony. Everyone had a unique experience with their childhood ponies. If you had friends or peers who were into MLP, you probably didn't have the same exact collections, even then, how did you obtain said ponies? How you got the ponies is part the experience. Even if you met someone else with the same pony as you, you probably had a different personality for her, a completely different character. Everyone had their own stories. Not everyone had access to the VHSes or were able to catch MLP on TV, and a lot of people probably didn't even know there was animated media out, or comics. MLP, believe it or not, is a toy, these ponies are dolls. They are no different from Barbie, really, where you make up your own characters and your own stories. Especially when talking about G1 when rereleases of a character were rare and most of the ponies were unique designs and characters, there was no way to fit them all into a piece of media, and a lot of them don't have deep pre-set personalities. You had to make everything up yourself. My experience with MLP is being like "yeah that's a neat idea", seeing it from a story or something, and reenacting something similar. Not 1:1, and that would only be a single story, not everything I did with my ponies was like that.

I see kids online now who grew up with G3, which cool, I was a G3 kid too basically, but it's obvious they grew up with only the DVDs, because they focus on only MLP from around 2007. The era where the main characters were Minty, Rainbow Dash, and Pinkie Pie, and later, the Core 7. We're starting to move away from the "personalized" approach MLP had and going into the "prebuilt" era where everything has to be a certain way. G4 made this worse and worse, and G5 is continuing this "prebuilt"-ness.

Spoiler
Slightly off topic but related to the above, as an example: Most kids nowadays would think of G3 Pinkie as a leader-type, but not me. From the earliest stories and back cards, Pinkie was made out to be the "little sister" type, and I liked that, so I kept it with my own stories, and it's shaped my entire view of the character. I can not for the life of me ship Pinkie/Minty when I perceive Minty as an adult and Pinkie is... kid-ish. Star Catcher doesn't have much of a personality in the media, but I guess she's usually portrayed as a regal goddess in fanworks. Which she is, obviously, but MY Star Catcher was also very vain, snobby, and stories involving her would end up with her learning to have some humility. Those are the most stand-out examples I can think of, but all of MY ponies were different from the """canon""" ones.

Not saying it's bad or wrong, I mean, Care Bears and others have this approach with a single set of characters, but it's not MY Little Pony and it's not YOUR Little Pony. I guess you could say people making fanfics of random background ponies in FiM is more MLP-y than anything else, but I do think being on the internet sours things a bit? Like the closed-ness of having your own ponies in your own room making up your own stories, alone or with a friend, it's different than having a thousands-of-views YouTube video of OCs. MLP is such a nostalgia thing, fueled by whimsy and childhood innocence, adults RPing with their OCs isn't the same.
Again, nothing wrong... just Old Man Yells at Cloud

What's funny to me is how a certain fandom did all the character building of blank slate backgrounders in G4 FiM and then had fights about it if anybody else disagreed with the common fanon. And then they disagreed and fought some more when Hasbro approved certain fanons and discarded other interpretations. Muffin pony, Lyra Heartstrings, DJ pony and the entire finale of the show where ships came true were the worst offenders. The B-fandom almost killed eachother over fan characters forced into a show with pre-built characters.

To me it showed that there is a need to have "MY little pony" but it can't really happen in a cartoon show or comic or whatever because that's official material as opposed to a single child's imagination.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 26, 2022, 11:11:24 AM
Not sure if My Little Pony is "My Little Pony" anymore. It's more like "Lauren Faust's Little Ponies" or whoever's writing whatever nowadays. Drop MLP from the title. "Friendship is Magic". "A New Generation". "Tell Your Tale", "Make Your Mark".

MLP G1-3 is YOUR Little Pony. Everyone had a unique experience with their childhood ponies. If you had friends or peers who were into MLP, you probably didn't have the same exact collections, even then, how did you obtain said ponies? How you got the ponies is part the experience. Even if you met someone else with the same pony as you, you probably had a different personality for her, a completely different character.
I think that ultimately, the whole idea of this is still a thing, including with G4 onwards.  I can't speak for everyone, but the whole idea of creating your own stories for the Little Ponies is still something that people do, even with the “pre-built” characters, as while you can go by canon personalities of the ponies (and don't forget that most, if not all, generations have at least two “canons” anyway, so you can choose which one to follow... or just make your own.)  Having “pre-built” characters/lore does not stop this, in my opinion, it just gives you something to start off with, but even talking purely about fanfiction, you can go as far away from canon as you want (I am including canon personalities for ponies in general, but that's because we're basically paying homage to those versions, if not just taking the personality traits that we like of some of them... but with some ponies, we are ultimately creating stuff for.)

The same likely applies with children playing with the toys; I obviously don't know what every child is like, but I remember back around 2013 or so, I saw someone (I think she was the granddaughter of a friend of the family) playing with her Little Ponies, and at least some of them were G4s, and she was basically creating her own “storylines” for them, as you would when you play with toys.  I don't know if she watched the show (she knew Rainbow Dash's name, but she could have just read the packaging), but she didn't seem like she was specifically trying to keep the ponies “in character”, she was just playing with her toys and telling her own “story”.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is this the case for other kids, even if any of them do at least start off with the “pre-built” stuff.  The same applies to fanfiction as well, as you can take as much of the canon stuff as you want, or just not use it.  I do feel that fanfiction is the “adult” version (yes, I know kids write fanfictions too) of playing with our toys in this fandom and creating our own stories... at least, that's how I ultimately approach it.



What's funny to me is how a certain fandom did all the character building of blank slate backgrounders in G4 FiM and then had fights about it if anybody else disagreed with the common fanon. And then they disagreed and fought some more when Hasbro approved certain fanons and discarded other interpretations. Muffin pony, Lyra Heartstrings, DJ pony and the entire finale of the show where ships came true were the worst offenders. The B-fandom almost killed eachother over fan characters forced into a show with pre-built characters.

To me it showed that there is a need to have "MY little pony" but it can't really happen in a cartoon show or comic or whatever because that's official material as opposed to a single child's imagination.
Speaking as a brony, I know exactly what you mean... it was a weird thing where one of the best things about the fandom, in my opinion (the creativity) led to one of the worst things about it, in my opinion (what you yourself described.)  I remember speaking out about this as best as I could, saying that it's perfectly okay to have your own idea about these characters or even the show, and that nothing is "ruined" if the show does things differently.

I get that the whole "headcanon ruined" thing could be a joke, but if it is... it's hard to tell if every brony is joking, because I've seen how... entitled(?) to their fandoms (or the "official fandoms") they are, but the idea of it seriously was always silly to me, and it's a shame that some bronies reacted this way.  I don't mind there being established or famous headcanons for background ponies, but I also support the idea of doing what you want to do with them if your writing them and being allowed to do your own thing.

My friend and I are ultimately creating our own ideas of who these ponies are when we use them – there are some brony established traits/headcanons that I plan to use for some but that is due to the fact that I liked those traits myself/headcanons myself and having nostalgia for them, rather than feeling any obligation to obey any brony rules about headcanon and with other background ponies we are doing our own things completely.  This also applies to “foreground” ponies, such as the Mane Six, though not as much as we are at least starting with their canon personalities, but we are still adding things, and taking them in directions that we like.

The fact that certain things were essentially made canon in the cartoon shouldn't matter either, because the cartoon is still one version of the story and people can still do their own thing, but your point was probably that the cartoon shouldn't have had to make fanon ideas canon, so I get what you mean, at least.  Either way, it doesn't have to affect our own storytelling and/or playtime.  Even the ships being made canon doesn't matter as those of us who do ship are free to ship whoever we like... again, regarding my friend and I, we just write about the ships that we want to write about, including with our fanseries, which is set at least a decade after FiM - the canon ships are not relevant, unless we specifically like them, and we'll only include them if we do (or at least feel it fits in with or storyline, for ships we don't care about, but don't “mind” as it where.)

So yeah, there's definitely flaws with it all, and the journey towards doing so is different, but the idea of us all having our own idea of what My Little Pony is, is still a thing ultimately, I would say.  At least that's how I view it...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 27, 2022, 08:13:55 AM
@TarkenDragon, it would be lovely if I had the time and equipment to do that, but I don't. Plus my comics are all in folders underneath pony hooves, and there are a lot of them. So it will have to remain a pipe dream.
It's also not that I chose Wouldbe Dragonslayer over Spike's Search, I don't like either. I just only had 4 eps of the TV show as a kid, and WBDS was one of those. I watched it very little; I didn't care for the story. I was always more of a comic kid anyway.

Which kind of brings me to Ragamuffin's post, which I basically agree with. I think it's a general trend though, toys now have to be associated with a theme or they have to 'do something' or be interactive. It means that the same kind of imagination that was being employed in kids in earlier generations, where the 'doing' had to be thought up by the kid, is not being used in the same way now. It's certainly true that we all have individual memories of our own ponies and games, plus whether we watched the tv show, read comics, etc. But even though I avidly read the G1 comics as a kid, I never played any single game which relied on those interpretations. Naynie and I played our own pony games, just as Ragamuffin said.

Honestly, while I think portraying healthy and diverse relationships in a kid's show is important, shipping is something that doesn't need to really happen. It's a blurred line really between friendship and romance, and kids need to be able to distinguish those things before they start blurring those lines. I hated, as a kid, when people asked me if my male friend was my boyfriend. Kids get forced into thinking about that way too early, because older people around them ask questions like that, or tease them about it. I just don't like it. So make a clear narrative about a relationship and stick to it but...don't make it vague. Not in a kid's show, anyway.

As for the bronies, I wasn't surprised about it at all. FIM isn't really a series that encourages diversity of thought in any case. It priveleges the ponies over other species, and it priveleges the pony sense of friendship over any other possible scenarios, as the most important thing. It pushes friendship at all costs but it also doesn't stop and take into consideration opposing views or possible different situations. Like if ponies dislike each other but can still respect each other and work together regardless, and so on.

All gens have their own 'world' in which these stories pan out, but I think it would probably be fair to say more G4 related stories would be written (fanfic) or played out in Equestria in some way. I would love to know whether that's also true of G1, G2 and G3, since 'Dream Valley' wasn't a thing for me as a kid, it's a very cartoon based concept and the comics used 'Ponyland' anyway.

In terms of fanon, fanon is fine, except when those fans start trying to make their fanon, canon. It happened with that Jem comic, it happens all the time in anime and manga fandoms, where people get so drunk on their own fanon they then aggressively try to force it on others. Bronies are obv guilty of that, but its harder to imagine that the kids, who the bronies basically ignored, would be subject to the same failing.

Probably kids do have their own pony worlds. But we're not going to see those on the internet as much as we see the entitled ones of the adult and almost-adult fans.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Snapdragon on April 28, 2022, 01:25:08 AM
Not sure if My Little Pony is "My Little Pony" anymore. It's more like "Lauren Faust's Little Ponies" or whoever's writing whatever nowadays. Drop MLP from the title. "Friendship is Magic". "A New Generation". "Tell Your Tale", "Make Your Mark".

Spoiler
MLP G1-3 is YOUR Little Pony. Everyone had a unique experience with their childhood ponies. If you had friends or peers who were into MLP, you probably didn't have the same exact collections, even then, how did you obtain said ponies? How you got the ponies is part the experience. Even if you met someone else with the same pony as you, you probably had a different personality for her, a completely different character. Everyone had their own stories. Not everyone had access to the VHSes or were able to catch MLP on TV, and a lot of people probably didn't even know there was animated media out, or comics. MLP, believe it or not, is a toy, these ponies are dolls. They are no different from Barbie, really, where you make up your own characters and your own stories. Especially when talking about G1 when rereleases of a character were rare and most of the ponies were unique designs and characters, there was no way to fit them all into a piece of media, and a lot of them don't have deep pre-set personalities. You had to make everything up yourself. My experience with MLP is being like "yeah that's a neat idea", seeing it from a story or something, and reenacting something similar. Not 1:1, and that would only be a single story, not everything I did with my ponies was like that.

I see kids online now who grew up with G3, which cool, I was a G3 kid too basically, but it's obvious they grew up with only the DVDs, because they focus on only MLP from around 2007. The era where the main characters were Minty, Rainbow Dash, and Pinkie Pie, and later, the Core 7. We're starting to move away from the "personalized" approach MLP had and going into the "prebuilt" era where everything has to be a certain way. G4 made this worse and worse, and G5 is continuing this "prebuilt"-ness.

Spoiler
Slightly off topic but related to the above, as an example: Most kids nowadays would think of G3 Pinkie as a leader-type, but not me. From the earliest stories and back cards, Pinkie was made out to be the "little sister" type, and I liked that, so I kept it with my own stories, and it's shaped my entire view of the character. I can not for the life of me ship Pinkie/Minty when I perceive Minty as an adult and Pinkie is... kid-ish. Star Catcher doesn't have much of a personality in the media, but I guess she's usually portrayed as a regal goddess in fanworks. Which she is, obviously, but MY Star Catcher was also very vain, snobby, and stories involving her would end up with her learning to have some humility. Those are the most stand-out examples I can think of, but all of MY ponies were different from the """canon""" ones.

Not saying it's bad or wrong, I mean, Care Bears and others have this approach with a single set of characters, but it's not MY Little Pony and it's not YOUR Little Pony. I guess you could say people making fanfics of random background ponies in FiM is more MLP-y than anything else, but I do think being on the internet sours things a bit? Like the closed-ness of having your own ponies in your own room making up your own stories, alone or with a friend, it's different than having a thousands-of-views YouTube video of OCs. MLP is such a nostalgia thing, fueled by whimsy and childhood innocence, adults RPing with their OCs isn't the same.
Again, nothing wrong... just Old Man Yells at Cloud

What's funny to me is how a certain fandom did all the character building of blank slate backgrounders in G4 FiM and then had fights about it if anybody else disagreed with the common fanon. And then they disagreed and fought some more when Hasbro approved certain fanons and discarded other interpretations. Muffin pony, Lyra Heartstrings, DJ pony and the entire finale of the show where ships came true were the worst offenders. The B-fandom almost killed eachother over fan characters forced into a show with pre-built characters.

To me it showed that there is a need to have "MY little pony" but it can't really happen in a cartoon show or comic or whatever because that's official material as opposed to a single child's imagination.

Gosh, you folks both make really good points! I wonder if some of this is the trend we see of "playing with toys" as a key part of childhood that's going away, which is being replaced with more technological toys/playtime. I'm sure some kids (especially those who can't afford the latest electronic gizmos!) are still playing as kids a few decades ago did, but it may be harder with the onset of the cartoon+toy monopolies. G1 had a cartoon, sure, but not all of the toys featured in the cartoon; they were closer to blank slates. Whereas with G4, we were lucky to get the small handful of backgrounder toy ponies that we did! So there's less leeway for kids to engage in play, only recreating what they see on TV. Or - that's all media execs think they do, and so they plan toylines accordingly. Chicken vs egg conundrum!

I also think it would have been really cool if (like Zapper says!) the vocal folks online could have been a lot more chill about people inventing their own stories for the background ponies. Half the fun is coming up with the ideas of who these random characters might be! Not navigating 5 different websites to see what the "accepted fanon" is.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TarkanDragon on April 28, 2022, 05:18:46 AM
@Taffeta

I understand sometimes it just accepts the fact how fantasy can be sometimes cruel and sometimes enjoyable...

And I honestly choose where my heart depends on. Healthy or not but it also shows passion how things can be possible.


@Snapdragon

Yeah unfortunately it didn't have it's third season (wish there is.)
Also there's some characters that lacked to have their toy counterpart as well. Like for example: Weston the baby eagle
Honestly got his cartoon counterpart he hadn't had many lines. But he definitely deserve to get a toy version of himself... Although there's a few things that Toys didn't get it's cartoon counterpart like the Princess Dragons... Honestly the Princess Dragons only happened in the comics but not the show itself... (Wish they did) but if there are some curtain characters that haven't been made into toys that's where custom toy makers came about... And yes granted maybe they're probably underrated compare the rest. I mean I could've at least get a commission from a toy maker and it's hard to find one... And sometimes it gets the feel it's official but not by the same company.

So yeah... honestly some characters like Weston, The G1 princess dragons, etc. can be deserved to get it's own toy, show counterparts...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on April 28, 2022, 08:25:25 AM
Not sure if My Little Pony is "My Little Pony" anymore. It's more like "Lauren Faust's Little Ponies" or whoever's writing whatever nowadays. Drop MLP from the title. "Friendship is Magic". "A New Generation". "Tell Your Tale", "Make Your Mark".

Spoiler
MLP G1-3 is YOUR Little Pony. Everyone had a unique experience with their childhood ponies. If you had friends or peers who were into MLP, you probably didn't have the same exact collections, even then, how did you obtain said ponies? How you got the ponies is part the experience. Even if you met someone else with the same pony as you, you probably had a different personality for her, a completely different character. Everyone had their own stories. Not everyone had access to the VHSes or were able to catch MLP on TV, and a lot of people probably didn't even know there was animated media out, or comics. MLP, believe it or not, is a toy, these ponies are dolls. They are no different from Barbie, really, where you make up your own characters and your own stories. Especially when talking about G1 when rereleases of a character were rare and most of the ponies were unique designs and characters, there was no way to fit them all into a piece of media, and a lot of them don't have deep pre-set personalities. You had to make everything up yourself. My experience with MLP is being like "yeah that's a neat idea", seeing it from a story or something, and reenacting something similar. Not 1:1, and that would only be a single story, not everything I did with my ponies was like that.

I see kids online now who grew up with G3, which cool, I was a G3 kid too basically, but it's obvious they grew up with only the DVDs, because they focus on only MLP from around 2007. The era where the main characters were Minty, Rainbow Dash, and Pinkie Pie, and later, the Core 7. We're starting to move away from the "personalized" approach MLP had and going into the "prebuilt" era where everything has to be a certain way. G4 made this worse and worse, and G5 is continuing this "prebuilt"-ness.

Spoiler
Slightly off topic but related to the above, as an example: Most kids nowadays would think of G3 Pinkie as a leader-type, but not me. From the earliest stories and back cards, Pinkie was made out to be the "little sister" type, and I liked that, so I kept it with my own stories, and it's shaped my entire view of the character. I can not for the life of me ship Pinkie/Minty when I perceive Minty as an adult and Pinkie is... kid-ish. Star Catcher doesn't have much of a personality in the media, but I guess she's usually portrayed as a regal goddess in fanworks. Which she is, obviously, but MY Star Catcher was also very vain, snobby, and stories involving her would end up with her learning to have some humility. Those are the most stand-out examples I can think of, but all of MY ponies were different from the """canon""" ones.

Not saying it's bad or wrong, I mean, Care Bears and others have this approach with a single set of characters, but it's not MY Little Pony and it's not YOUR Little Pony. I guess you could say people making fanfics of random background ponies in FiM is more MLP-y than anything else, but I do think being on the internet sours things a bit? Like the closed-ness of having your own ponies in your own room making up your own stories, alone or with a friend, it's different than having a thousands-of-views YouTube video of OCs. MLP is such a nostalgia thing, fueled by whimsy and childhood innocence, adults RPing with their OCs isn't the same.
Again, nothing wrong... just Old Man Yells at Cloud

What's funny to me is how a certain fandom did all the character building of blank slate backgrounders in G4 FiM and then had fights about it if anybody else disagreed with the common fanon. And then they disagreed and fought some more when Hasbro approved certain fanons and discarded other interpretations. Muffin pony, Lyra Heartstrings, DJ pony and the entire finale of the show where ships came true were the worst offenders. The B-fandom almost killed eachother over fan characters forced into a show with pre-built characters.

To me it showed that there is a need to have "MY little pony" but it can't really happen in a cartoon show or comic or whatever because that's official material as opposed to a single child's imagination.

Gosh, you folks both make really good points! I wonder if some of this is the trend we see of "playing with toys" as a key part of childhood that's going away, which is being replaced with more technological toys/playtime. I'm sure some kids (especially those who can't afford the latest electronic gizmos!) are still playing as kids a few decades ago did, but it may be harder with the onset of the cartoon+toy monopolies. G1 had a cartoon, sure, but not all of the toys featured in the cartoon; they were closer to blank slates. Whereas with G4, we were lucky to get the small handful of backgrounder toy ponies that we did! So there's less leeway for kids to engage in play, only recreating what they see on TV. Or - that's all media execs think they do, and so they plan toylines accordingly. Chicken vs egg conundrum!

I also think it would have been really cool if (like Zapper says!) the vocal folks online could have been a lot more chill about people inventing their own stories for the background ponies. Half the fun is coming up with the ideas of who these random characters might be! Not navigating 5 different websites to see what the "accepted fanon" is.

To be fair, the arguments over "canon vs fanon" happen in other fandoms, too.  (spoiler because it's a little rambly)
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I write fanfic for an anime series that, in the series, all of the characters seem to be straight.  However, in the Spanish language dub, apparently they used the word "novio" (boyfriend) instead of "amigo" (masculine form of friend) between two male characters so part of the fandom decided that those characters MUST be a couple, even though it was probably just a translation mistake because that isn't the way it's translated in the mangas, either.  (But then again, I don't speak or read Japanese so maybe that was the correct translation and they changed it for the English dub because it was translated in the 90s.  :shrug:)  And because those two might be a couple, every other character in the series is now LGBTQ, regardless of the relationships set down by the creator.  And while some of the stories are fun/cute that way, some of them are just not, so I've learned to take each story as it's own creation and realize they are not meant to be canon.  But that's the whole point of fanfiction.  The frustration comes from people commenting that you don't understand the characters because they're not gay when the only evidence that they are is a language translation that you don't watch because you don't speak that language and it's not from the original language translation.

But I agree that taking the "make my own story" aspect out of toys nowadays is pretty sad.  Kids losing their imaginations because the media tells them how to play is going to make for a boring future.  :nope:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 28, 2022, 12:09:19 PM
I don't think kids will ever lose their imagination no matter what the media does - it's just not something you're ever going to lose, you just have it.  Even imagination inspired from TV shows is still imagination, because it all comes from somewhere - even a story someone randomly tells you could lead to what you imagine at some point.  If anything, I think imagination is getting more powerful (says the guy who mostly wants to create "reboots"...)

Either way, even if it starts from somewhere else, it is still your imagination because you're deciding where it goes, so even if a child is taking inspiration on how to play with characters based on a TV show, they're still ultimately using their imagination, as they decide what happens to them, and may only be using the TV show as a guideline anyway, and may even do their own thing at times, like use a toy of an established character as one of their own characters, possibly even in their own "storyline".

I agree it's nice to have toys that don't specifically "do" anything as well, but even they're probably going to be played with how the child wants at times too.  As long as the toy can be held in the child's hand and moved around, then it can still be whatever that child wants it to be, so to speak.

Hope I'm coming across okay with this.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 28, 2022, 12:53:41 PM
I disagree that kids no longer have an imagination because they're being told how to play with their toys by some imaginary boogeyman.

After all, many of us grew up with toys that had a story attached. Many of us grew up with plenty of TV and games and yet we still played with toys and read books and stuff.

The most ironic thing about that statement, is that its coming from a bunch of people who grew up in the generation where toon and comic based toys reigned supreme.

If some kid's Michaelangelo teaming up with Spider Man to investigate the killer animatronics at FNAF, still have their default personalities, so what?

If some kid pretends that  spazzed out Pinkie Pie and prissy Rarity  have to save Equestria from a monster
that ate Twilight Sparkle that's every bit a valid play style.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on April 28, 2022, 02:53:51 PM
Yeah, the canon v fanon thing is a big deal in the anime and manga fandom and I am not sure if that has spilled out into other things or if other things influences all of them.

I have two rambles, first, Pokeyonekenobie, on the terminology...
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So friend would be tomodachi, 'dachi, yuujin (possibly too formal for what you're talking about), and lover/boyfriend would be kareshi, koibito, etc.
But I wonder if the word might've been aite or aibou, which can mean partner in either a platonic friend sense (for example, a companion, or a teammate, or something like that) but also can mean a romantic partner. The problem is Japanese is quite a nuanced language which makes for variations in translation sometimes. I've seen some horrible translations as well though so that might be an issue too. It's hard to know how much the time frame impacted it. If you have a clip of a japanese dub version of a relevant scene I can tell you for sure, but since it's so old I'm guessing maybe not.

The slight translation nuance can have massive shockwaves, though. Like something I mentioned in one of the other threads in the Daiya fandom where a line "we can compete with each other" was translated as "you can still compete with me". There was also a verrry notorious mistranslate in the Bleach fandom which basically caused a civil war over the resolution of one of the arcs. Yeah. It's a messy business.

Secondly, going back to fanon vs canon.
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In the Daiya no Ace fandom there is literally a pairing for pretty much every character. I'm not really bothered by any of them, some make a lot more sense than others given what happens in the series, and honestly, the pairing aspect of the fandom is not especially hostile. What's a bigger issue for me is when fans take an actual storyline and then reinvent parts of it (like, denying bits of it happened or adding things they would have liked to see happen) and then talk about it like it's fact. This is a bit like the bronies too, in that they have THEIR IDEA and that trumps over the actual manga and the real story. Those things are fine in fanfic, but it's not in fanfic. It's really disturbing.

On a slightly different note, I wouldn't want the princess attendant dragons to be in the cartoon. I've said it before, but the cartoon princesses are not the comic princesses, and so there's no relation between them and the dragon toys we had. They didn't appear in the show because they were part of a UK and European line,  and nothing to do with the US release that powered the cartoon. I mention it because it demonstrates yet another canon divide across countries and regions as well as in different languages that also influences how kids saw g1.

I do think kids still have imagination, but I don't think that it is being trained in the same way. There will always be kids who employ that imagination and play and dream and do all those things. But across the bigger picture...my experience of people in fandoms now vs fandoms 10 years ago is that there is a considerable lack of imagination employed in discussing them, sharing ideas, accepting other ideas and putting those ideas into creative mediums such as writing, art etc. There will always be people who can do this. But it's just not how it was in the past, because the means of being a fan has changed so much.

In saying this I'm not judging the quality of people's work, just repeating the comments of those people themselves who want to write/draw something but struggle to even begin, and if they do begin, they end up copying an existing concept or getting stuck at a couple of hundred words.

Bronies are probably a part of that fact, but in their case Hasbro helped feed their idea of fanon being canon by adopting some of the things they said. So that inflexibility of imagination vs some level of validation made the situation worse.

Growing up in a generation where toon and comic based toys reigned supreme has not a lot to do with this conversation, either. I mean, it's true that that's the case. But what was lacking was the internet linking it all together, thus creating a kind of cohesive idea of that canon between fans of the franchise. You could watch a cartoon, read a book, get two different versions and then go off and play with a third without knowing what x in y country was doing with the same material. I don't dislike the internet but it makes ideas of 'canon' not only possible but dominant in a way the past didn't. Cartoons then had 'bibles', but it was still different. Remembering the various conversations with Christy on the Jem list, even she didn't try and imply that her concepts of the Jem series were necessarily the only canon. She'd say that all the Jem episodes contributed, even those which didn't match her bible. And sometimes she'd take our comments on board and acknowledge the possibility of them, even if it wasn't the original intention. That was 'canon' in the eighties - a guide stringing the story together loosely. This is kind of different from the concept of 'canon' now.

At least, that's my pov.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 04, 2022, 06:36:10 PM
I never liked Baby Mochanut's face. It looks off for some reason compared to the other babies.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Midnight Dream on May 06, 2022, 03:32:22 AM
I don't like when ponies get overly humanized/modernized. That why I never liked Tales and it's one of the reasons why I haven't checked out g5 yet (ponies with smartphones ugh) With this I don't mean that they should be just regular animals either, but I always saw ponies more like fantasy beings with their own way of life not quadrupedal humans.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TarkanDragon on May 06, 2022, 12:51:57 PM
I don't like when ponies get overly humanized/modernized. That why I never liked Tales and it's one of the reasons why I haven't checked out g5 yet (ponies with smartphones ugh) With this I don't mean that they should be just regular animals either, but I always saw ponies more like fantasy beings with their own way of life not quadrupedal humans.

I agree with you about the humanized one... It doesn't fit well with the old aspect of MLP.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on May 06, 2022, 03:20:20 PM
Not to argue or anything, just curious what you guys think.

What's the difference between a pony using a brush and a pony using a smartphone?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 06, 2022, 04:14:35 PM
Not to argue or anything, just curious what you guys think.

What's the difference between a pony using a brush and a pony using a smartphone?


One brushes and styles hair, the other let's you do a hairstyle tutorial on the internet.  :P



Post Merge: May 06, 2022, 04:21:01 PM

I don't like when ponies get overly humanized/modernized. That why I never liked Tales and it's one of the reasons why I haven't checked out g5 yet (ponies with smartphones ugh) With this I don't mean that they should be just regular animals either, but I always saw ponies more like fantasy beings with their own way of life not quadrupedal humans.


Tales isn't the first to have technology or to give them human stuff. There was the TV and telephone accessories in PE, the cars in an MLPnF episode, and several ponies had object and vehicle symbols. Ship, train, truck, ufo,kite, radio, microphone, headphones, vw bug, gloves, bathtub, bicycle.

And what is so fantasy like about a pony with a balloon or an ice cream cone?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 06, 2022, 04:47:44 PM
I remember all the flap about Hip Holly having a cell phone as her accessory, back in what, 2000?

As a kid I loved MLP Tales - I was 10 at the time, and although I never saw the cartoon version, I read all the comic stories about them. Ironically not knowing they were also meant to be 10, but anyway. It never occurred to me to be bothered that their lives were kind of modern real life humanish. I saw the episodes as a teen and I like them. I always felt like MLP and Friends was like the history of MLP Tales world in a weird way.

Maybe this is unpopular but I think I'm also happier having ponies who go to parties and stuff than I am ponies who are wearing saddles and bridles.

I know the G1 stories from the US were a lot less magical than the ones in the UK (I mean books etc, not tv show), like the whole businessmen from new york wanting to steal rainbow hair, and Glory ending up in some other world that was more magical than her own. Even the tv series limited magic basically to unicorns, which I never understood and still don't. My point being that the US storyline for G1 MLP was a lot more real life connected than people sometimes realise, even early on.

There are also a bunch of other accessory sets like the slumber party which I think is 1987? The big brothers, also 1987? Both those also came out of the US creative cauldron originally, so I don't think Hasbro really intended MLP to be entirely fantasy even in the early days.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on May 06, 2022, 05:03:20 PM
Not to argue or anything, just curious what you guys think.

What's the difference between a pony using a brush and a pony using a smartphone?

one is cutesy kinda funny and more natural in comparison to technology I'm not mad if a pony uses a smart phone it's just not my preference
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on May 06, 2022, 10:02:37 PM
I don't really mind the smartphone thing. It doesn't really seem too weird to me considering G4 featured ponies using some technology as well, and with G5 taking place in the same world but far in the future, it just sort of makes sense to me that they would have higher tech than G4 did such as smartphones.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Midnight Dream on May 07, 2022, 04:46:19 AM
Not to argue or anything, just curious what you guys think.

What's the difference between a pony using a brush and a pony using a smartphone?
One is an item that has been used for centuries and not only for humans, but also for horses and other animals, it makes sense that a sapient pony would use a brush for personal care even in a fantasy or historical setting. Other is a modern technology item that puts story's technological level somewhere around 2010's + and leads to bunch of questions and implications about the world.

I'm not completely against any "human" elements in stories. I don't think MLP should be only about bridles and saddles. I don't mind ponies going to parties, eating ice cream, using bath etc. What I don't like is when it involves modern technology or modern, urban concepts like ponies working in corporations, factories, ponies living in modern looking cities - I think it just takes away the whole magic of the story.
I think that G4 really pushed the humanization of ponies and G5 is going even further with it.
I'm aware that some elements like this existed even in the early days of MLP,  but I never liked it, I always prefered the idea of ponies being fantasy beings living in a fantasy world.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on May 08, 2022, 07:42:21 AM
I don't mind the odd modern/human aspect here and there, I just don't like it when they go overboard with it. Tales has never really been my thing for that reason (I like it well enough, what I've seen of it at least, but it doesn't feel like MLP to me). Hated those anthro G3 Ponyvilles.

The smartphones feel weird to me since I personally prefer them to be a bit more timeless, but they're not exactly dealbreakers for me either. Just something I probably wouldn't have done myself.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: SweetNightmare on May 08, 2022, 04:27:56 PM
Personally I don't mind the modern human elements in MLP universe. But I do prefer more whimsical\magical\cottage core elements. They are indeed more timeless and fun.
I do love those accessories like the new "pony smartphone" in g5 as well as the small cellphones that g3's had also I think that streamer Pipp set is super cute even though it will probably be so dated in a couple years.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on May 09, 2022, 01:47:38 PM
I think I've mentioned this before, as one of my unpopular opinions, but I don't mind the cell phone thing personally.  It's not what I'd have done myself, but I think so far they've made it part of the show so naturally, that I don't really notice it, it's like it's always been there, for me.

I mean, I still found Tales to be a fantasy world with all its technology for the time, and G5 feels very fantasy to me, as it reminds me of Final Fantasy in places (Bridlewood and Zephyr Heights remind me of FFX) and because of my influence from the FF series, I've never really found use of technology to be counteractive towards the idea of a fantasy world, to be honest.

Also add to the fact that they're not really in you face about the phones, they're just there, so it doesn't feel like they're trying to modernize the show, in my opinion.  Pony Life kind of brings it to the foreground in some episodes, but that show is more light-hearted and fun, so it even feel natural there in its own way for me.

Another thing that helps for me is... well, I don't actually view cell phones as "modern" these days - they've been around long enough, that they are just part of the world for me now, it's no different to including a TV or a radio on as show in my opinion.  They just blend into the scenery for me, most of the time.

I respect those who don't like them in MLP and I will admit, I wouldn't include them myself, but... it doesn't bother me that they're involved as it just seems natural to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shadowperla on May 11, 2022, 03:47:30 AM
I do mind because, if it outside, I am so bothered by people constantly on phones. AND why show "streamer" (parasite caste) as a positive option? It made me dislike Pipp. Too grotesque modern...does she also have a PonyFans page?

I am not a fan of bringing bad life things, like these, into MLP.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 11, 2022, 04:26:43 AM
I agree we can do without pony influencers. The number of people who now apparently can't do anything in their own lives without someone on a video upload telling them how to live is already terrifying to me. The name itself is toxic. I thought we were meant to be individuals thinking for ourselves, and yet here we are as a society guided by influencers...yeah. So that one I am in agreement with.

When I worked in the library, we used to have to tell people to turn their phones off constantly. So I'd start to twitch whenever I heard one go off, even outside of work. It was lovely in Japan when you didn't have people using phones on the train except to browse/scroll, they were all on silent because of manner mode. I really noticed that difference when I came back home.

I don't mind cell phones that much overall; I do mind social media and its proliferation, which I suppose also goes back to the influencers.

All that said, I suppose MLP is just reflecting society. Modern society is not very impressive, and the kids have to learn to live in it. Or, you know, be told by someone else how to because that's how it's done these days.

I still feel like I'm ok with tech and slice of life MLP stories, but I do absolutely draw the line at the kind of modern culture mentioned above.

 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on May 11, 2022, 05:52:27 AM
Again, I don't really find it that modern, and it doesn't bother me personally (though respect to those who feel differently.)  Also, I personally feel that the whole "constantly on phones" thing is an exaggeration - I don't even see it that much, and when I do, it's usually like a handful of people, and even then, it doesn't look constant.

It's no different to when I would play my Gameboy in public in my opinion - sometimes you just need something to keep the kids entertained and sometimes that will be the internet, other times it will be a video game or even a book.  Otherwise, they'll be part of what is going on (which they can still be with their "distractions" if they choose to be.)

I'm not a follower of the influencer scene, and I'll admit I only took into account that kids could be following them recently when it was brought up in media, and I get that kids can be impressionable, but they can still essentially (with guidance if necessary) make their own choices at the end of the day.  It is also nothing new essentially, I'm speaking for myself, but kids in general would (presumably) tend to act like people they watch in someway - be it an actual celebrity they're fans of, or a character they watch on TV, though at the end of the day, they are still ultimately themselves, even if they take cues from other people, because their true selves, their actual personality essentially shines through, and at most whatever was "influenced" in them just gets incorporated into that.

It is not a "today" thing, the people in our environment has likely shaped our personality since the moment we, as humans, became consciously aware of other humans.

Regarding Pipp, I'm not even sure she is an influencer, given what seems to be the idea of them (note: I am referring specifically to the movie, as I haven't seen Tell Your Tale yet) she has an online presence, but at best she just seems to be an online celebrity of some kind, like a YouTuber or whatever.  This in itself, I would say is a good thing (though as a YouTuber I'm likely biased) and is more so about expressing yourself, and sharing your personality and opinions with the world and such like (yes, I realize this varies depending on the YouTuber), which I would say is a positive thing at the end of the day.  You can have fans, but I don't think there has to be any desire to actually tell them how to do things, at best it's just you showing how you'd do things - unless it's an actual guideline video or something... I dunno it's a grey area that depends on the YouTuber, or whatever kind of online presence we're dealing with.

With Pipp as a streamer, maybe she's providing entertainment for the other ponies and expressing herself?  I'm sure she enjoys the idea of being the center of attention and being famous in some way (again using YouTubers as an example, even if you're more into it because it's fun and something you want to do, you're still at least partly in it for fame, otherwise you wouldn't do it so publicly.) It is like how Rarity expresses herself with her designing, which is also in part for the benefit of the other ponies, as she wants to celebrate their beauty, but at the same time, I'm sure she still enjoys the praise from other ponies regarding her designs.  The same thing could apply to Pipp, as in, she is providing entertainment for the other ponies, but at the same time would appreciate the praise that she'd get from it?

So... yeah, I can see the positive side from it, but if others don't then I respect that and hope I've come across as respectful.


Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on May 11, 2022, 06:56:47 AM
What's wrong with streamers? Okay, "influencers" I agree is a dumb thing, but it's not new, like MJ said. People in commercials and the cover of magazines can also be seen as "influencers". But like, just regular streamers? People who cook on camera, or garden, or do repairs, or play games... I don't think that's a negative thing? I only watch a couple myself but really, I think comparing normal streamers with adult platforms is overreacting and weird.

I can't say anything in detail about the ponies themselves, since I have yet to watch the movie.

You also have to remember this is aimed at kids and kids are exposed to modern tech everyday. It's just the way things are in the 1st world. It's the same as TV show families actually having televisions in their homes, when they were not widely available. Or... phones! Rotary phones existed in 1919 but didn't become popular until the 1950s but movies and TV shows still had phones in them. Or video game consoles. Or anything, really. It's all the same.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 11, 2022, 07:55:56 AM
The idea of kids being influenced by celeb or other culture is not new, true enough, but the access and directness of it now is a problem because of its lack of regulation. See the influencers using their platforms during COVID to take stances on vaccines, for example. Streamers are a bit different from influencers in my mind, but it depends...I don't really like streamers who take money for advertising (these are what I would call influencers, that have an ulterior motive for what they are doing). If you're just doing it for your own entertainment, like deboxing ponies or reviewing anime or talking about your garden then I don't have an issue with it. But people who actively go out to make money through advertising products to their base...I think its hard to say that every single one of them is acting in good faith, even if some are.

People are very susceptible to the influence of peer pressure and the cultural media around them. It not being a new thing doesn't make it automatically an ok thing, mind you. Most of the negative things neurodiverse kids experience as they grow up come about because of this culture of how you should do things/what you should like/ and so on. Growing up as a neurodiverse kid without a diagnosis and having to navigate that world of conformative blah was often not a fun experience. On the positive, it made me able to deal with those things as a reality in every day. But I can't say it enriched my childhood experience and often the opposite.

I feel like there are limits to the extent people should be able to 'influence' other people's lives. But the point being discussed is whether it's ok for ponies to be using these tech things that we see in our everyday. I will say I think the idea that ponies need to reflect modern tech and culture is kind of silly, because that would mean that literally nothing could be fantasy or unrealistic, and that stories set in other worlds, or the past, or any of those things have no right to be produced because they don't reflect modern society.

I was ok with the level of 'human society' that the MLPtales ponies had, I think because the level of human society in the 1990s was a long way from being the intrusive and toxic thing that it is now. It is a scientific fact that more young people now suffer from depression, anxiety and other mental health problems because in large part of social media - and that internet bullying means that kids have no escape from the people tormenting them, not even by going home from school.

...The decision to push popular kid society into our kids tv is not a new one by any means, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be handled carefully. I mean, FIM pushed friendship on its viewers but by doing so accidentally created some awkward moral lessons. So if that stuff is going to be in the pony world, it needs to be done selectively. The world is far more open and intrusive on people's lives now than in the past, and the extent to which that needs to be reflected on kids' TV screens is probably the thing in need of debate.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 11, 2022, 10:02:51 AM
 it's up to parents to monitor their kids activities online and restrict them from toxic websites. We can't shield them from every nasty thing in the world, but  parental locks on computers and phones make it a little easier. The people in the world have always tried to tell other people how to live and what to think. In some places, that intrusion is far worse and more horrifying then some opinionated person on social media. But those are different matters.

 We now return to My Little Pony. My unpopular opinion is, Ivy is cute but I don't particularly care for her.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Mami Tomoe on May 11, 2022, 01:18:15 PM
I really want another forest playset like in G2
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 11, 2022, 03:19:59 PM
G2 had a lot of neat ideas actually.

Berry Bright is best G2. I don't really understand all the Ivy hype, genuinely.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 11, 2022, 04:39:48 PM
G2 had a lot of neat ideas actually.

Berry Bright is best G2. I don't really understand all the Ivy hype, genuinely.

Isn't there a G2 in similarish colors? Sea Foam or something?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on May 11, 2022, 08:57:50 PM
I'm not sure if I already said this but I love the Perfume Puff Palace. It's so whimsical. Apart from that, my ponyverse exists somewhere in the dark ages. I don't even have Steamer let alone...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on May 12, 2022, 05:14:25 AM
I'm not really into playsets, and wasn't when I was a kid either (aside from Castle Grayskull with the slime) but I always liked the G3 playset with the rainbow waterfall. Butterfly Island is its name. That was a cute playset. The little Breezie train was cute too.

My opinion that might be unpopular? I wish Hasbro had done more horse markings in G1. We have blaze and...? I think that's it. It would have been cool if they did things like paint or appaloosa. I guess Cotton Candy is as close to appaloosa as we got.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on May 12, 2022, 06:27:17 AM
G2 had a lot of neat ideas actually.

Berry Bright is best G2. I don't really understand all the Ivy hype, genuinely.

Isn't there a G2 in similarish colors? Sea Foam or something?

Um, maybe Sea Breeze? The mail order? *racks brains for G2 names, at which she often fails*

But yeah, it's definitely a reused colour scheme.

I actually think it would've been cool to have a proper appaloosa set with different colours. O.O

Playsets...as a kid I wanted PE and the hair salon and had neither. So I have a special fondness for them. I had DC and the nursery and played with them over and over. As an adult...it's a problem of storage. :/
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: GreyBlossom on May 13, 2022, 10:12:07 AM

My opinion that might be unpopular? I wish Hasbro had done more horse markings in G1. We have blaze and...? I think that's it. It would have been cool if they did things like paint or appaloosa. I guess Cotton Candy is as close to appaloosa as we got.

I love the ponies with blazes. There should have been way more of them. Seashell and Bubbles are the only two that come to mind. I also liked the freckles on Bowtie and Applejack, although they’re not really horsey.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 13, 2022, 10:20:56 AM
I'm not really into playsets, and wasn't when I was a kid either (aside from Castle Grayskull with the slime) but I always liked the G3 playset with the rainbow waterfall. Butterfly Island is its name. That was a cute playset. The little Breezie train was cute too.

My opinion that might be unpopular? I wish Hasbro had done more horse markings in G1. We have blaze and...? I think that's it. It would have been cool if they did things like paint or appaloosa. I guess Cotton Candy is as close to appaloosa as we got.

I'll second horsey markings, the g5s have proven that they look very cute with leg markings.

G2 had a lot of neat ideas actually.

Berry Bright is best G2. I don't really understand all the Ivy hype, genuinely.

Isn't there a G2 in similarish colors? Sea Foam or something?

Um, maybe Sea Breeze? The mail order? *racks brains for G2 names, at which she often fails*

But yeah, it's definitely a reused colour scheme.

I actually think it would've been cool to have a proper appaloosa set with different colours. O.O

Playsets...as a kid I wanted PE and the hair salon and had neither. So I have a special fondness for them. I had DC and the nursery and played with them over and over. As an adult...it's a problem of storage. :/

That's the one.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 02, 2022, 03:04:21 PM
I hate to say it, I don't wanna say it, but G5 Rainbowdash looks very cute. I kinda sorta want one to paint into a different pony like Starshine.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shiverdam on September 27, 2022, 10:27:06 AM
Had to seek out this thread again.
G5 ponies are ugly. They looked all right in the movie, but every piece of G5 media since then is just. Not good to look at.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Dreamer on October 07, 2022, 03:42:16 AM
I... didn't like the G5 movie at all. It's as colour-by-the-numbers as colour-by-the-numbers can get. It doesn't know what it wants to be. It wants magic AND technology and doesn't care about how to blend those two together, just piles them one on top of the other. It wants to have a "message" but it's also incredibly shoehorned even by kid show standards (Trolls 2 handled the diversity message better). And worst of it, it's terribly, overwhelmingly, bland. I couldn't feel the magic, the fun or the enjoyment a movie is supposed to have. I'm often the kind who will find something funny to laugh about even in a non-comedy or bad film, but that film is the equivalent of eating wet cardboard colored with pastel chalks.

Also please don't come at me with that "it's for little kids" argument - little kids deserve better entertainment than this.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: DracoKat on October 07, 2022, 03:55:48 AM
Im not a fan of G5 either. The art is has a lot to be desired. The forward eyes as opposed to the sides like G4 made the faces seem too human to me. I saw the movie, I couldn't get past episode 1 of the series because all I could think about how disappointing the art is.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 07, 2022, 07:47:46 AM
The big G5s have nice hair, but the faces are weird. There's this sort of scrunching or wrinkling on the muzzle, like the plastic got messed up before it fully hardened. And my Princess Sunny has what looks like a contusion springing up around her horn. Idk if Moonbow and  Twilight Sparkle have the contusion too? I should go look, but it feels like a wish on a monkey paw.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: chunkymilkboy on October 08, 2022, 08:04:49 AM
seems to be an unpopular opinion around these boards, but i think the whole brony phase in the 2010s was really cool. i know there were some questionable things, but i think the idea that a cutesy pink and purple show about love and ponies was popular amongst gamers and adult men and teenagers, to be really awesome. biased because i consider myself a brony and love g4, but i just think that a show about femininity and friendship was so popular with men to be cool. i'm a really girly guy so i just think that's awesome.

2nd, i hated the g4 toy line reboot that they did around the time of the movie, the ones with the poses. the toys themselves are fine, a little off but i would have been okay if they started like that (minus big mac, he looks horrible) it's just that half of the characters don't even match now! plus the foreheads look weird. i'd be lying though if i said i didn't want the new applejack though.

3rd, i really like the bridles! makes 0 sense in the context of sentient ponies, but they do look pretty cute to me.

4th, i love tales. i know it's not very well-made or well-written, but i'm just a sucker for it. it's fun!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on October 08, 2022, 09:09:39 AM
I can't speak for everyone of course, but most of us Arena peeps' problems with the bronies stem from the........ belligerent part of the fandom. I think more people getting into stuff, especially guys getting into "girly" stuff, is a great idea! Break down those silly gender stereotypes! Male pony fans are awesome.

What ISN'T awesome is the large amount of bronies who spammed porn in Facebook groups etc (I think it's mostly been cleaned up by now, but I remember at one point it was almost impossible to google MLP stuff without risking getting an eyefull), harrassed the pre-existing fans, acted like G4 was the only MLP thing that ever existed/made sweeping statements along the lines of "G1-G3 sucks", made up crap like "Tales is G2" instead of doing five seconds of research into this very much preexisting fandom, generally acted inappropriate...... I could go on.

THAT is what I had a problem with. I think that's what most people mean when they say "I hate bronies". The worst of the bunch tended to be the ones who really pushed the "brony" name and unfortunately they made a bad impression on a lot of folks. you know what they say, "a bad apple spoils the bunch" - it's not that we think All Bronies Suck - it's just hard for a lot of us to separate the bad apples from the good ones. And I mean, pretty much ALL big fandoms have their bad sides, it's not really a FiM-specific problem - the issue is that the "bad bronies" tended to be the most vocal ones and it left a bad taste in a lot of folks' mouths.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 08, 2022, 09:52:48 AM
Everything that Carrehz said.

I met some awesome bronies at ponycon on a couple of occasions. But one of those same years was the year the brony convention here got cancelled and UK ponycon sold out. And some jerks who couldn't get tickets threatened to storm the building and I think there were some threats of indecent behaviour. Bear in mind ponycon has a lot of kids attending. Not good. Not welcome. BUT a lot of bronies did come to ponycon that year. And it was fine. We just all interacted like, well ponyfans. Shared infos. Bantered a bit. It was great. So yeah, the idea of G4 being popular with guys is great.

...The toxic elements, not great. They ruined the reputation of real pony fans, including those who were fans of G4. They attacked the older fandoms, spammed youtube videos, tried (and somewhat succeeded) in pushing their views on everyone.

Those fans were enabled by the attention they got from the media, the world, maybe even Hasbro, that they were 'the fans' of MLP. But they weren't. We were here before G4. We are here after G4. Most of us collect some G4, like some G4 things, but it's just another generation of MLP. It's not better or worse than the other gens. It has destroyed any hope of new or creative pony things going forward, though, since now Hasbro think they can cash in on the same theme, rather than being as original as they were for G1, G2, G3 and at the start of G4.

I'm hoping with time, as the toxic lot disappear, we'll get the fans of G4 who grew up with it and the real pony fans who were genuinely just into the line.

Anyway.

My possibly unpopular opinion for the week.

Walked into Smyths toys today. Saw the G5 pony display. It filled about a two metre section across, and up to about the midpoint of the bay (Smyths stacks very high as a rule). And about 95% of what was there was Sunny. Right now, I feel that G5 is worse than G4 in its character/toy repetition.

I swear, if I see many more Sunny Starscouts, I'm going to rename this generation the mane 1.

I know there's a bit more variety stateside, but still. This is not a great start. G4 at least began with variety. I was able to pick up 3 different ponies in 2011 in Finland, which is already 2 more than I generally see in stores in the UK in 2022.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 08, 2022, 11:29:13 AM
Everything that Carrehz said.

I met some awesome bronies at ponycon on a couple of occasions. But one of those same years was the year the brony convention here got cancelled and UK ponycon sold out. And some jerks who couldn't get tickets threatened to storm the building and I think there were some threats of indecent behaviour. Bear in mind ponycon has a lot of kids attending. Not good. Not welcome. BUT a lot of bronies did come to ponycon that year. And it was fine. We just all interacted like, well ponyfans. Shared infos. Bantered a bit. It was great. So yeah, the idea of G4 being popular with guys is great.

...The toxic elements, not great. They ruined the reputation of real pony fans, including those who were fans of G4. They attacked the older fandoms, spammed youtube videos, tried (and somewhat succeeded) in pushing their views on everyone.

Those fans were enabled by the attention they got from the media, the world, maybe even Hasbro, that they were 'the fans' of MLP. But they weren't. We were here before G4. We are here after G4. Most of us collect some G4, like some G4 things, but it's just another generation of MLP. It's not better or worse than the other gens. It has destroyed any hope of new or creative pony things going forward, though, since now Hasbro think they can cash in on the same theme, rather than being as original as they were for G1, G2, G3 and at the start of G4.

I'm hoping with time, as the toxic lot disappear, we'll get the fans of G4 who grew up with it and the real pony fans who were genuinely just into the line.

Anyway.

My possibly unpopular opinion for the week.

Walked into Smyths toys today. Saw the G5 pony display. It filled about a two metre section across, and up to about the midpoint of the bay (Smyths stacks very high as a rule). And about 95% of what was there was Sunny. Right now, I feel that G5 is worse than G4 in its character/toy repetition.

I swear, if I see many more Sunny Starscouts, I'm going to rename this generation the mane 1.

I know there's a bit more variety stateside, but still. This is not a great start. G4 at least began with variety. I was able to pick up 3 different ponies in 2011 in Finland, which is already 2 more than I generally see in stores in the UK in 2022.


The Mane 1!! :rofl:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on October 08, 2022, 11:55:47 AM
I'm getting really sick of Sunny, too. To be honest, I have a hard time even naming the other G5 characters that have been made into toys x)

...The toxic elements, not great. They ruined the reputation of real pony fans, including those who were fans of G4. They attacked the older fandoms, spammed youtube videos, tried (and somewhat succeeded) in pushing their views on everyone.

This is a good point (well all of your post is, but this bit particularly) - bronies gave MLP fandom a bad rep to the point where I've legitimately felt the need to clarify, when mentioning being a pony fan to non-fans, "I'm not one of THOSE types though". Just cause I don't want to be tarred with the same brush. And it really sucks that I, or anyone else, should feel the need to defend themselves like that just cause of a vocal part of the fandom.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 08, 2022, 02:17:34 PM
They have earned their reputation as obnoxious sub-fans and it's not fair to the rest of the larger fandom to be automatically lumped in with them.

 There's a reason many people look at them with irritation and shun them for announcing being a brony everywhere they go. It's not because they're boys liking a girl's franchise, they're not the first, or the last. But because they've proudly ticked off every negative stereotype they're associated with on the check list and then some. The ones who know how to be decent human beings are the exception, not the rule.

I'm already tired of Sunny as well. I see more of her and Moonbow then the rest of them. I don't even see Pipp all that often. Maybe Hasbro is finally starting to burn out on pink?

I like Jazz a lot, but have decided not to get her because I already have an overabundance of earth ponies still on my wishlist and space is precious.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 08, 2022, 03:04:25 PM
I'm just going to pick up on the comment about Tales. I'm also in the minority, but I like Tales better than the rest of the G1 animation, taken overall. I was never huge on the G1 animation, but I remember being really excited by seeing tales for the first time when I was 13. I'd only seen those characters in the comic, and I didn't know they had been animated. I bought Bright Eyes new in Barmouth on holiday in 1992, although she was a bit more forceful in the cartoon than she was in the comic that had made me fall in love with her.

I think the main thing was that Tales didn't jar with the comics in terms of most things, whereas the G1 animation did, and as a kid, I was always comic first. I didn't like watching eps with ponies that 'didn't exist' (weren't sold here) and 'had the wrong names' (had US names which were changed in the UK release), so aside Revolt of PE, which I loved, I kind of distanced from them. (And that one had Cupcake and Truly in, who I was sure were made up. For some reason I never thought Paradise was though. Weird...)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: chunkymilkboy on October 08, 2022, 04:03:52 PM
perhaps i mis-phrased that - i meant less that 'mlparena folks dislike bronies because they like a show for girls while i think that is cool', more-so i meant 'a lot of mlparena folks seem to find the bad side of bronies overshadows the good, while for me it is the inverse.' thank you all for your responses, though. i enjoyed reading them  ^.^

anywho;
have to agree with taffeta about liking tales better than the other g1 stuff. i find the original g1 series hard to watch! like, i love the songs (big brother ponies gets stuck in my head more than it should, LOL) but i find it so drawn out!

This one's not really unpopular in the toy-collecting part of the fandom (especially when it comes to g3 pinkie) but I don't really like pinkie pie! I love the rest of the g4 main 6, but she just gets on my nerves.

I think unicorn cheerilee is the best cheerilee. Wish she got a regular size toy instead of just styling size!

The g3 baby ponies are kind of unsettling. I still like them but I feel like they are a little uncanny.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 08, 2022, 05:28:42 PM
It kind of makes me wonder, if Tales had gone on for roughly 3-8 years and they'd started the Core 7 model off with that instead of G3, who would have been the toys people got tired of seeing on shelves? 
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 08, 2022, 05:49:09 PM
perhaps i mis-phrased that - i meant less that 'mlparena folks dislike bronies because they like a show for girls while i think that is cool', more-so i meant 'a lot of mlparena folks seem to find the bad side of bronies overshadows the good, while for me it is the inverse.' thank you all for your responses, though. i enjoyed reading them  ^.^


I'm sure the G4 community had some great stuff, but it was built on the back of hate and derision aimed at existing pony collectors. That's obviously going to inform our feelings going forward.

I feel like if more non-toxic fans had done more to call out the behaviour and try and stop it, we'd probably have a better overall impression of the G4 fandom.

Pinkie Pie sucks. :/ But I'm sure that opinion isn't unpopular. I didn't like her in G3 either. :/

I genuinely think that's what hasbro were going for with Tales. I suspect Melody or Starlight, because a: pink and b: we already saw mutations of both of those in the same year's line (Rollerskate and Hairdo). I know there was nurse Sweetheart, but she didn't come till the year after, so yeah, I think Melody and Starlight would have been it.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Ragamuffin on October 08, 2022, 06:31:16 PM
I think Starlight and Melody, too, are easy to mix up. They're the same shade of pink and they're also quite similar in themeing... at least I think so. Melody wants to be a musician, a... star, perhaps?

I didn't like Pinkie Pie as a child when I was the target demographic for G3. I liked her at the start because she was the "little sister" but as time went on and she became the "leader" I didn't like it. It didn't help that she has the same voice as Sarah from Ed, Edd n Eddy, making her even more obnoxious and bratty to me. XD

I don't like the more pastel look they ended up giving her down the line too. I like the dark pink body, light pink hair. Eventually they made her entirely the same colour. Not dissimilar to how they lightened up/brightened Rainbow Dash... she went from a cloudy, grey-ish blue colour to teal, to a sky blue. The pearly bodies really make them special too compared to the lighter/brighter matte bodies... I love the (relative) jewel-y, dusky look of early G3. I wish MLP did more jewel tones. Kimono is gorgeous and the prototype Star Catcher they have in the pamphlet (http://mylittlewiki.org/w/images/5/56/2004Pamphlet2.jpg) is to die for. It's an elegant look for MLP and it's too bad people want baby pink all the time. I had my pastel phase and it burned out too quickly. I've gone back to my childhood roots of loving warm colours and jewel tones. :P My very first favourite colour was red!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Queen Sophie on October 08, 2022, 06:46:44 PM
Unpopular opinion on g3 (and technically g4) Pinkie Pie, I’m personally indifferent on her
Unpopular opinion bronies would disagree with, I find the art and art style gorgeous and I think girly things is good!
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shadowperla on October 08, 2022, 07:08:49 PM
Brony issue was that is the Anime crowd. g4 just looked close to their favourite slop, so same problems arose. Can not clean anime fan spaces.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 08, 2022, 07:44:16 PM
I think Starlight and Melody, too, are easy to mix up. They're the same shade of pink and they're also quite similar in themeing... at least I think so. Melody wants to be a musician, a... star, perhaps?

I didn't like Pinkie Pie as a child when I was the target demographic for G3. I liked her at the start because she was the "little sister" but as time went on and she became the "leader" I didn't like it. It didn't help that she has the same voice as Sarah from Ed, Edd n Eddy, making her even more obnoxious and bratty to me. XD

I don't like the more pastel look they ended up giving her down the line too. I like the dark pink body, light pink hair. Eventually they made her entirely the same colour. Not dissimilar to how they lightened up/brightened Rainbow Dash... she went from a cloudy, grey-ish blue colour to teal, to a sky blue. The pearly bodies really make them special too compared to the lighter/brighter matte bodies... I love the (relative) jewel-y, dusky look of early G3. I wish MLP did more jewel tones. Kimono is gorgeous and the prototype Star Catcher they have in the pamphlet (http://mylittlewiki.org/w/images/5/56/2004Pamphlet2.jpg) is to die for. It's an elegant look for MLP and it's too bad people want baby pink all the time. I had my pastel phase and it burned out too quickly. I've gone back to my childhood roots of loving warm colours and jewel tones. :P My very first favourite colour was red!

I'm in love with that Star Catcher. :happy: :lovey:


I think Sweetheart would be constantly on the shelves. Hasbro sure loves white ponies with pink hair. *Cough* Sundance, Truly, Strawberry Swirl, Baby Sea Poppy, G1 birth flowers. *Cough* As well as Melody and Starlight.

Out of curiosity to UK and Europe pony peeps, which of the Tales/7 Character toys were harder to find in your areas?
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 09, 2022, 12:26:01 AM
I think Starlight and Melody, too, are easy to mix up. They're the same shade of pink and they're also quite similar in themeing... at least I think so. Melody wants to be a musician, a... star, perhaps?

They're completely different shades of pink, though. Melody is dark pink, like the flower fantasy pony in the same pose. In a lot of ways her colour scheme is very similar to that - with the blue hair as well. Starlight is a *much* lighter pink, with yellow hair. They're nothing alike, even in the animation. Melody wanted to be a rock star, but Starlight was the one who often held stuff together, even though she had a crush on the guy who liked Melody. Iirc that's how it played out. They're totally different in every respect except they used the same pose. Firefly and Sprinkles are more similar than Melody and Starlight.

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On anime fans - as this site will testify, there are a lot of anime fans around who aren't compelled to turn everything into porn. The problem is in the person, not the interest.

With the 7 characters, are we talking which showed up more second hand? Bon Bon and Starlight, iirc. Melody too to a degree. Patch was the hardest to find, then Clover and Bright Eyes. My sister and I had all of them from new though. I bought Bright Eyes on holiday in Wales in 1992, I still remember it vividly because there was a Starlight there in Spanish language packing which fascinated me, and for a moment I hesitated. But I bought my favourite in the end. The others came from a clearance store at the end of the line. We pretty much split the set between us.

The 1994 ponies, including the nurses, never showed up in this area, but it wasn't hard to find Hairdo Starlight or Rollerskates Melody. I know my Melody came from a shop in Aberystwyth when Mum, Dad and Elena were on a trip there (she got Great Hair Ringlets at the same time), but that was also after the line ended and before we were online. Hairdo Starlight I picked up at a carboot sale I think. Nurse Sweetheart I had to get online.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 09, 2022, 05:33:17 AM

I'm sure the G4 community had some great stuff, but it was built on the back of hate and derision aimed at existing pony collectors. That's obviously going to inform our feelings going forward.

I feel like if more non-toxic fans had done more to call out the behaviour and try and stop it, we'd probably have a better overall impression of the G4 fandom.
It definitely did, and still does - if there's one positive thing to say about bronies, they are definitely creative to this day.  I'd love to provide some of my own creative projects once I'm able to, and do some similar stuff for the previous generations too - I always felt they deserved the same (positive) treatment.

Also, this is likely in part at least my ego talking, but I wish I had been a "famous" brony earlier in the fandom, because I would have been more vocal about the negative side of the fandom, or at least done more to draw attention to the positive side - I would have at the very least been more open on the fact that "This is a show for girls, but we like it because girl's shows are awesome" (as opposed to "It's awesome, so it can't be made for girls") and promoted more positivity to the previous generations (I often responded to hateful comments on YouTube and the like, but that's all I could really do.)

I am not a famous brony even now, but I am still going to go in the above direction (e.g. I do reviews on YouTube now, so all episodes, of all generations will be judged purely on my opinion, rather than the typical "It's not G4 so it sucks" mentality), but I would have liked to have done this sooner, when the fandom was blooming.  The past-gen hate does seem to be dying down (or I'm just looking in more positive places), but it should have been sorted out sooner.

Unpopular opinion bronies would disagree with, I find the  art and art style gorgeous and I think girly things is good!
If this is about G3, I can honestly say as a brony that I 100% agree with you.  I actually call G3 "The Beautiful Generation" because pretty much everything (if not everything) about it looks and sounds so artistically pleasing.  The femininity of it all really adds to the beauty, and I just love it - I love girly things too.  ^_^

Brony issue was that is the Anime crowd. g4 just looked close to their favourite slop, so same problems arose. Can not clean anime fan spaces.
This seems to be an unpopular opinion in itself, but I never saw any similarity between G4/FiM style and anime style - they are completely different styles, that look nothing alike, in my eyes.  I'm sure I even saw Lauren say she wasn't going for an anime look, and I agree with her.


For my own unpopular opinion... have I mentioned that I don't mind the technology in G5 yet?  It's hard to keep up with what I have and haven't said in this thread (if I haven't I'll elaborate further.)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on October 09, 2022, 05:39:47 AM
Yeah I wouldn't compare bronies to anime fans. There's creeps in every fandom, and it's true that anime fandom probably has more than its fair share of "those" types, but I don't think the bad eggs in anime fandom, have ever become the "face" of the fandom like what happened with bronies. If that makes sense.

Honestly, if anything, I blame social media for all the negative stuff. There's always been craziness in larger fandoms, you've always had fandom drama, but it used to be easier to avoid it. Nowadays everything's kind of lumped in together and it seems to cause more troubles than not. IIRC the social media boom more-or-less coincided with the brony boom...

I wouldn't call disliking either version of Pinkie an unpopular decision, especially 'round these parts ;) Is it unpopular to say I LIKE her.... but still get sick of her? :silly: She's a bit of an army pony for me, but I'd still prefer more character variety...
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: BlackCurtains on October 09, 2022, 06:27:36 AM
Pinkie was my favorite in the G4 show. But then I only watched seasons one and two. I thought she was funny but can see how she’d be annoying too.

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 09, 2022, 06:43:31 AM
Thanks for the perspective on the Tales/Characters ponies when they were being sold Taf. :)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starscout on October 09, 2022, 06:44:08 AM
I swear, if I see many more Sunny Starscouts, I'm going to rename this generation the mane 1.
I'm getting really sick of Sunny, too.
I'm already tired of Sunny as well.
Hehe, oops  :biggrin:

As for the brony thing, I have a weird love-hate relationship with it. I was extremely active on Tumblr and deviantArt at the time, which, besides that other site I am not allowed to name here, was where probably bronies were most active. Although I had "outgrown" ponies at the time (temporarily, anyways), MLP was such a massive part of my life when I was younger, and I am glad that the brony community not only got me back into ponies, but also made me feel less ashamed and embarrassed for enjoying them. I just wish that sentiment extended towards the previous gens. Many of them were a bit more lenient with G1, but man, they sure tore into G3. That really sucked for me because G3 was the generation I loved the most as a kid (I did grow up with G1's shows and specials, but I was always much more into G3's characters). That also ties into another issue I had with bronies - the rampant misogyny. Plenty of them were fine, but there were also plenty who felt so insecure with their masculinity that they felt the need to bring up sexist talking points or rant about female pony fans any chance they got. And yeah, as Taffeta mentioned, the porn was a massive issue. Personally, I don't have a problem with that sort of thing as long as it is properly filtered and tagged so that the only people who see it are people who consented to viewing it. And sure, other fandoms have this issue, but honestly, in my experience, bronies were the worst about it. I have a sorta funny story about this, actually. Back in like 2012, I followed a bunch of brony artists on Tumblr. Tumblr already had a really bad filtering system for 18+ content, and that combined with the fact that some of the bronies I followed not only posted their NSFW art on the same blog as their SFW content, but also apparently didn't know how to properly tag it. Anyways, my mom was using my laptop, and I guess I happened to have had Tumblr opened. My poor mother was exposed to extremely graphic porn of pink cartoon horses. Worst part is, for whatever reason, she assumed I made it!! :haha: It's hilarious in hindsight, but at the time, it was awful. There were also other cases of bronies just objectively taking their weird fantasies way too far and projecting them onto the actual voice actors (yes, including the child ones).  :X
 I would also like to say, while all this is terrible, bronies were not all bad. I think I have more good memories with the fandom than bad. There were a lot of undeniably talented bronies who mad gorgeous art, catchy music, and funny videos. I still enjoy going back to look at, listen to, and watch these. The incredible work made by these people really helped motivate me to become a better artist myself. In fact, some friends and I were recently looking through my old sketchbooks from around that time and almost every single page contained ponies. Many of the pics were even inspired by other fanworks. And while, as a collector, I no longer care too much for G4, I still have fond memories of being, err, brony-adjacent I guess?

Anyways, my unpopular pony opinion is that I wish more ponies came with actual horse accessories like bridles and saddles... maybe even a crop? :devious:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Carrehz on October 09, 2022, 07:32:41 AM
Oh yes, I did like the huge burst of creativity the bronies brought to the table! Even if it wasn't necessarily my thing, it was fantastic to see all the fanworks being created. I love the "Eurobeat Brony" remixes - an old friend of mine got me hooked on them.

And yeah, as Taffeta mentioned, the porn was a massive issue. Personally, I don't have a problem with that sort of thing as long as it is properly filtered and tagged so that the only people who see it are people who consented to viewing it. And sure, other fandoms have this issue, but honestly, in my experience, bronies were the worst about it.

My thoughts exactly. To be fair, Tumblr had a BIG hand in the untagged porn problem - I've gotten an eyeful on that site more times than I'd care to admit, and this is just by casually browsing like I would on any other site! Was never a problem on sites like deviantART which had mature filters in place all along. But yeah, bronies were really bad about this - I was honestly afraid to google anything MLP-related at one point, it got so bad. I seem to recall some salacious items turning up on eBay and clogging up search results at one point, too? Things definitely seem to have improved on that front, and I think I recall some of the fandom going out of their way to try and clean up search results even, so A+ to them for that. But for a while there, it was WAY too easy to accidentally stumble across something you didn't want to see :yikes: :scared:

I'm neutral to "horsey" accessories for MLPs. The only things I'm against are the ones that can stain the ponies. :B
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 09, 2022, 09:09:25 AM
The sad thing about the G4 effect is that at the start of the gen, the older gen community were very excited about it. There was a lot of hype among existing collectors, and I remember them screening the first eps at that ponycon or some such. I had a lot of long term fans telling me how amazing it was and how it reached back to the original MLP, with AJ and everything else.

None of us even imagined what it would become. Even when guys started getting on board and it started getting really popular, it wasn't really an issue then.

The bashing of G3 is also anathema to me. Those of us with long memories remember that the community was very divided over G2. When G3 came out, it properly reunited and healed the rifts in the community that still remained. There's a reason G1, G2 and G3 fans can coexist peacefully. G3 is basically it.

We were genuinely just living our lives peacefully as ponypeople when G4 came out. All we really want is to go back to that peace, with G4 integrated into the wider generational map of pony. Maybe we'll one day be there - but I think it's too soon. I also think G4 fans would do better to ditch the 'brony' tag. It's become the epicentre of the toxic, and will always be associated with the bad stuff.

As for the porn, it was the deliberate attempt to push it into inappropriate spaces, like in kids videos on YT, or on forums where there were young members, or whatever, that bugged me. It wasn't just a fandom doing fandom stuff. It was actively targeted out into the wider world. I had to mop a bunch of it off a forum once, when I was a mod. It wasn't great.

I also don't think G4 is like anime. But I'm also over people stereotyping anime fans. Having been involved with anime for a long time now, I've met very few 'anime fans' who fit that stereotype (they mostly live on Reddit :/). I have met a few in their seventies, though. Older women who sit down with a cup of tea to watch their favourite series on CR...

Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 09, 2022, 09:57:18 AM
I hope they make Misty, but I hope they don't give her pre -crimped hair. It'll get tangled in the toy box really fast. Let kids and collectors crimp it if they like.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 09, 2022, 02:44:18 PM
I also think G4 fans would do better to ditch the 'brony' tag. It's become the epicentre of the toxic, and will always be associated with the bad stuff.
I understand why people would think this, but for me, I'm keeping the title - not only am I nostalgic towards the brony fandom, in spite of its flaws, I also feel that keeping the title, and acting like a good fan is a better way to go - show the world that it doesn't have to have that reputation (which, in my experience it is already moving away from, for the most part.) - that's how I choose to look at it anyway, I respect those that don't.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Shadowperla on October 09, 2022, 03:45:00 PM
I hope they make Misty, but I hope they don't give her pre -crimped hair. It'll get tangled in the toy box really fast. Let kids and collectors crimp it if they like.

*gets afraid I ruin hair cause I like this pony*  :cry:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 09, 2022, 05:02:51 PM
I have never cared much about Starflower before, but something about the new BF Blind box one really appeals to me.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starscout on October 09, 2022, 05:11:57 PM
I hope they make Misty, but I hope they don't give her pre -crimped hair. It'll get tangled in the toy box really fast. Let kids and collectors crimp it if they like.
How about, instead of normal nylon hair, we get a perfume puff-esque Misty. :biggrin: *fingers crossed*
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 09, 2022, 05:13:45 PM
I hope they make Misty, but I hope they don't give her pre -crimped hair. It'll get tangled in the toy box really fast. Let kids and collectors crimp it if they like.
How about, instead of normal nylon hair, we get a perfume puff-esque Misty. :biggrin: *fingers crossed*

Ugh no. Perfume puff hair bothers me, it looks like it came with hopelessly untameable frizz right out of the package and that it would be a nightmare to restore second hand. But I could totally see people making PP customs of her.


Color changing hair could be fun on her though.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 10, 2022, 12:23:45 AM
I hope they make Misty, but I hope they don't give her pre -crimped hair. It'll get tangled in the toy box really fast. Let kids and collectors crimp it if they like.
How about, instead of normal nylon hair, we get a perfume puff-esque Misty. :biggrin: *fingers crossed*

I freely admit I don't know who Misty is, since I haven't watched any of the new G5 stuff, but perfume puff hair is awesome. I think this may be an unpopular opinion, but I don't mind xD. It's so much fun to comb.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 10, 2022, 06:40:11 AM
I hope they make Misty, but I hope they don't give her pre -crimped hair. It'll get tangled in the toy box really fast. Let kids and collectors crimp it if they like.
How about, instead of normal nylon hair, we get a perfume puff-esque Misty. :biggrin: *fingers crossed*

I freely admit I don't know who Misty is, since I haven't watched any of the new G5 stuff, but perfume puff hair is awesome. I think this may be an unpopular opinion, but I don't mind xD. It's so much fun to comb.


She's a blue unicorn with fabulously crimped purple and green hair. Her colors are pretty anyway, it reminds me a bit of G3 Seaspray and G3 Daybreak. I don't watch the show either, but sometimes I like to look at new ponies.

https://g5mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Misty/Gallery
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 10, 2022, 11:46:23 AM
Quote from: Ragamuffin
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I didn't like Pinkie Pie as a child when I was the target demographic for G3. I liked her at the start because she was the "little sister" but as time went on and she became the "leader" I didn't like it.


This is going back in the thread a bit, but I never noticed that change with G3 Pinkie Pie - aside from that one moment when she did math in "A Charmin Birthday" in a childish way ("If we add up one charm bracelet to the seven... to me, that adds up to eight." or something like that) - she never felt like the "little sister" character to me, she always seemed on the same level as the other "in general" ponies, and even took the lead in "A Charming Birthday" to some extent, so she always had leadership qualities to me, I guess...

No offense, just putting my two cents in there.

For the record I love G3 Pinkie Pie, but respect those who don't (she's super-adorable for me.  ^_^)
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Taffeta on October 10, 2022, 12:50:19 PM
I hope they make Misty, but I hope they don't give her pre -crimped hair. It'll get tangled in the toy box really fast. Let kids and collectors crimp it if they like.
How about, instead of normal nylon hair, we get a perfume puff-esque Misty. :biggrin: *fingers crossed*

I freely admit I don't know who Misty is, since I haven't watched any of the new G5 stuff, but perfume puff hair is awesome. I think this may be an unpopular opinion, but I don't mind xD. It's so much fun to comb.


She's a blue unicorn with fabulously crimped purple and green hair. Her colors are pretty anyway, it reminds me a bit of G3 Seaspray and G3 Daybreak. I don't watch the show either, but sometimes I like to look at new ponies.

https://g5mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Misty/Gallery

Her hair looks kind of like tiny ringlets to me, based on that image. Cool colours :D
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: starscout on October 10, 2022, 05:57:47 PM
This is going back in the thread a bit, but I never noticed that change with G3 Pinkie Pie - aside from that one moment when she did math in "A Charmin Birthday" in a childish way ("If we add up one charm bracelet to the seven... to me, that adds up to eight." or something like that) - she never felt like the "little sister" character to me, she always seemed on the same level as the other "in general" ponies, and even took the lead in "A Charming Birthday" to some extent, so she always had leadership qualities to me, I guess...

No offense, just putting my two cents in there.

For the record I love G3 Pinkie Pie, but respect those who don't (she's super-adorable for me.  ^_^)

I believe Ragamuffin may be referring to the backcard/story version of Pinkie rather than the cartoon. IIRC the two were quite different.
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 11, 2022, 07:18:45 AM
This is going back in the thread a bit, but I never noticed that change with G3 Pinkie Pie - aside from that one moment when she did math in "A Charmin Birthday" in a childish way ("If we add up one charm bracelet to the seven... to me, that adds up to eight." or something like that) - she never felt like the "little sister" character to me, she always seemed on the same level as the other "in general" ponies, and even took the lead in "A Charming Birthday" to some extent, so she always had leadership qualities to me, I guess...

No offense, just putting my two cents in there.

For the record I love G3 Pinkie Pie, but respect those who don't (she's super-adorable for me.  ^_^)

I believe Ragamuffin may be referring to the backcard/story version of Pinkie rather than the cartoon. IIRC the two were quite different.
Ah, I see.  Thanks.

I forgot what she was like in the toyline/stories, if I knew - I'll check it out. :good:
Title: Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
Post by: Queen Sophie on October 11, 2022, 07:22:13 PM
I don’t like the petite ponies, too small, looks a bit too simple for me, and no unicorns
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