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Title: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: freezestime on October 14, 2019, 10:52:34 PM
Hi friends!

I saw a fellow collector selling off their ponies and stumbled upon a NBBE/Play n Care Baby Half Note! I bidded and won the auction, she only costed $18 plus shipping.

But now I realise she has purple eyes, not the bluey-green eyes.

I liked how her eyes matched her hair and I'm wondering, is the purple eyes Half Note is harder to find or something?

Most of my searches bring up BBE and blue eyed Half Note.

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Title: Re: Baby Half Note NBBE/Play n Care eye variant?
Post by: Spectrum on October 14, 2019, 11:04:07 PM
Taffeta has a little tidbit on her scrapbook about her: http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/danceschool.htm



Title: Re: Baby Half Note NBBE/Play n Care eye variant?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on October 15, 2019, 07:57:41 AM
Not sure which NBBE is harder to find, but I used to have both of them and they were both adorable!   (I wish they'd used Baby Blossom's pose, though, because to me that looks like more of a "dancing" pose than the Baby Cuddles pose.  But I still like them more than the BBE one, lol.)
Title: Re: Baby Half Note NBBE/Play n Care eye variant?
Post by: caseysealia on October 15, 2019, 11:55:06 AM
Oooo I saw that!! Yeah I don't know about her rarity. Is it a Nirvana?
Title: Re: Baby Half Note NBBE/Play n Care eye variant?
Post by: Taffeta on October 15, 2019, 02:48:37 PM
Taffeta has a little tidbit on her scrapbook about her: http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/danceschool.htm





Cookies for the reference :)

It's not a Nirvana, it's a production variation I guess.

The two I have, one comes from my childhood collection and the other comes from a good friend's childhood collection so I know both were available from new in the UK with the dance school. All the UK boxes have the BBE baby on the side, but we established a while ago there are differences with the dance school here to the US (ie coming with shoes for one thing) and this seems to be another one.

My childhood one is aqua eyed and has curly hair, I have photos of when I got her and so I think I can probably figure out which year if I go through stuff. The Dance School was available in the UK in 1987 and 1988, a lot later than in the US.

My friend's childhood one is purple eyed and has straight hair. I don't know exactly when she got her but I do also have her accessories from her dance school and there is a colour variation on some of them (like the box is yellow I think whereas mine was pink...or the other way around, can't recall now, also the dance beam and stuff).

So it seems like a batch release from two different issues, possibly. I am guessing that could be settled and narrowed down if the boxes change rainbow style between 1987 and 1988 like Kiss Curl's does, but I don't even have my own childhood box so that's currently something I can't/haven't pursued.

There are pony comparison pics on the link above, anyway. It's not just the eyes.

In the UK we had the BBE version as well and I am not totally sure how that worked out timelinewise but I am thinking we probably had the BBE one originally and then the regular eyed version after...and it's possible they were leftovers from the MO in the US that got sold here instead. I don't know for certain but the purple eye is harder to find. The aqua eye one is quite common over here.

I do know we had the BBE one as a horseshoe points offer later so it may be that's the main way that came out here, but I have a strong feeling people have mentioned getting BBE in stores, and she's certainly not that htf either.

Also, if you want accurate information, don't use Strawberry Reef for G1, especially not non-US. The Wiki is better if you want to use a mainstream site. Not perfect, but better, because it is still being edited and is not abandoned and out of date like SR is.

Also! While NBBE is an ugly and horrible term, in this case Play and Care Set also doesn't apply, as she's not. She's just regular Baby Half Note. No adornments or additions.
Title: Re: Baby Half Note NBBE/Play n Care eye variant?
Post by: freezestime on October 15, 2019, 04:55:14 PM
Taffeta has a little tidbit on her scrapbook about her: http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/danceschool.htm





Cookies for the reference :)

It's not a Nirvana, it's a production variation I guess.

The two I have, one comes from my childhood collection and the other comes from a good friend's childhood collection so I know both were available from new in the UK with the dance school. All the UK boxes have the BBE baby on the side, but we established a while ago there are differences with the dance school here to the US (ie coming with shoes for one thing) and this seems to be another one.

My childhood one is aqua eyed and has curly hair, I have photos of when I got her and so I think I can probably figure out which year if I go through stuff. The Dance School was available in the UK in 1987 and 1988, a lot later than in the US.

My friend's childhood one is purple eyed and has straight hair. I don't know exactly when she got her but I do also have her accessories from her dance school and there is a colour variation on some of them (like the box is yellow I think whereas mine was pink...or the other way around, can't recall now, also the dance beam and stuff).

So it seems like a batch release from two different issues, possibly. I am guessing that could be settled and narrowed down if the boxes change rainbow style between 1987 and 1988 like Kiss Curl's does, but I don't even have my own childhood box so that's currently something I can't/haven't pursued.

There are pony comparison pics on the link above, anyway. It's not just the eyes.

In the UK we had the BBE version as well and I am not totally sure how that worked out timelinewise but I am thinking we probably had the BBE one originally and then the regular eyed version after...and it's possible they were leftovers from the MO in the US that got sold here instead. I don't know for certain but the purple eye is harder to find. The aqua eye one is quite common over here.

I do know we had the BBE one as a horseshoe points offer later so it may be that's the main way that came out here, but I have a strong feeling people have mentioned getting BBE in stores, and she's certainly not that htf either.

Also, if you want accurate information, don't use Strawberry Reef for G1, especially not non-US. The Wiki is better if you want to use a mainstream site. Not perfect, but better, because it is still being edited and is not abandoned and out of date like SR is.

Also! While NBBE is an ugly and horrible term, in this case Play and Care Set also doesn't apply, as she's not. She's just regular Baby Half Note. No adornments or additions.

Ah, okie, so general consensus is she's probably a variant of the Baby Bonnet School of Dance. And also noted about the correct terminology!
Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: Taffeta on October 16, 2019, 03:36:41 AM
No...she IS a variant of the dance school. It is just not clear from which year. :)
Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: freezestime on October 16, 2019, 05:23:59 AM
No...she IS a variant of the dance school. It is just not clear from which year. :)

Ah Whoops, my bad. Knowledge corrected.
Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: Taffeta on October 16, 2019, 05:38:46 AM
No...she IS a variant of the dance school. It is just not clear from which year. :)

Ah Whoops, my bad. Knowledge corrected.

The more interesting thing is that I am guessing you obtained her within Australia? Or was it from overseas?

Thus far I think she's been mostly assumed to be a UK variation, since the regular eyed versions are fairly common over here - they were normal issue in the UK for a while.

But if you got her over there, did she travel or was she sold there??
Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: freezestime on October 16, 2019, 05:43:41 AM
No...she IS a variant of the dance school. It is just not clear from which year. :)

Ah Whoops, my bad. Knowledge corrected.

The more interesting thing is that I am guessing you obtained her within Australia? Or was it from overseas?

Thus far I think she's been mostly assumed to be a UK variation, since the regular eyed versions are fairly common over here - they were normal issue in the UK for a while.

But if you got her over there, did she travel or was she sold there??

I actually bought her from an Australian collector on eBay, who's unfortunately selling their collection. I can message them to ask how they got her, if that'd be of interest?
Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: Taffeta on October 16, 2019, 05:44:54 AM
No...she IS a variant of the dance school. It is just not clear from which year. :)

Ah Whoops, my bad. Knowledge corrected.

The more interesting thing is that I am guessing you obtained her within Australia? Or was it from overseas?

Thus far I think she's been mostly assumed to be a UK variation, since the regular eyed versions are fairly common over here - they were normal issue in the UK for a while.

But if you got her over there, did she travel or was she sold there??

I actually bought her from an Australian collector on eBay, who's unfortunately selling their collection. I can message them to ask how they got her, if that'd be of interest?

Well it occurred to me that it could be another clue in your ongoing quest to discover what was sold over there and what was not xD.
Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: freezestime on October 16, 2019, 05:51:22 AM
No...she IS a variant of the dance school. It is just not clear from which year. :)

Ah Whoops, my bad. Knowledge corrected.

The more interesting thing is that I am guessing you obtained her within Australia? Or was it from overseas?

Thus far I think she's been mostly assumed to be a UK variation, since the regular eyed versions are fairly common over here - they were normal issue in the UK for a while.

But if you got her over there, did she travel or was she sold there??

I actually bought her from an Australian collector on eBay, who's unfortunately selling their collection. I can message them to ask how they got her, if that'd be of interest?

Well it occurred to me that it could be another clue in your ongoing quest to discover what was sold over there and what was not xD.

Ah, that's a point. I just normally assume collectors would buy from all over the world, but it'd make sense to ask if any were bought in store.
Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 16, 2019, 12:44:45 PM
Why doesn't the wiki have her written in? Grumble grumble. I'll throw her up and see if anyone is willing to donate a photo.
I always thought that curly haired ponies had longer hair, but they look like the same length.
Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: Taffeta on October 16, 2019, 12:46:52 PM
Why doesn't the wiki have her written in? Grumble grumble. I'll throw her up and see if anyone is willing to donate a photo.
I always thought that curly haired ponies had longer hair, but they look like the same length.

The purple eyed one does have quite long hair for an early baby if I remember right.

I can take a photo of mine, if you need. It won't be till the weekend though probably?

 Wiki has a lot of gaps with stuff not in the US still, and Absol was talking about completely renovating the menu and listings and stuff for the non-US stuff because it was all over the place, with ponies not in complete sets/missing/not listed in the right years but I don't know what happened since it never got fixed and is still a mess.

Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 16, 2019, 12:57:39 PM
I think Absol hasn't been on very much? My friend wanted to make an account and edit alongside me (the G4 section is...sad) but needed to be contacted via here first. I'm assuming college stuff. College is fussy.
If you'd be willing to donate a picture, that would be lovely.  :) It looks like Freezes picture has normal length hair, but that may be the angle/something else I'm missing.
Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: Taffeta on October 16, 2019, 03:15:21 PM
I think Absol hasn't been on very much? My friend wanted to make an account and edit alongside me (the G4 section is...sad) but needed to be contacted via here first. I'm assuming college stuff. College is fussy.
If you'd be willing to donate a picture, that would be lovely.  :) It looks like Freezes picture has normal length hair, but that may be the angle/something else I'm missing.

It's normal length hair, it's just...somehow long? I dunno how to explain xD
Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: shabbychicdee on October 17, 2019, 03:07:51 PM
wasn't there one with freckles too, like her buggy and nursery buddies, may be the mail order one did?

Taffeta, you should change your name to Investigator Taffeta  :lol: :P i love how great you are at looking into things and finding info for us  :satisfied:

anyways i grabbed my one out of storage as i thought she had straight hair and low and behold she is the purple eye, curly hair variant  :blink: and i thought i had a great eye for detail.  i owned one years ago before getting this one and now i release they were different and the other was the aque eye straight hair one.

your right Freezestime, she is a little cuter with the aqua eyes.

keen to know if she ever had freckles though  :P sorry if i missed info if someone mentioned
Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: Taffeta on October 17, 2019, 03:11:00 PM
wasn't there one with freckles too, like her buggy and nursery buddies, may be the mail order one did?

Taffeta, you should change your name to Investigator Taffeta  :lol: :P i love how great you are at looking into things and finding info for us  :satisfied:


Cookies for you :D
I feel loved today.

But in seriousness, this is pretty much just all the stuff I've accumulated over 20 years or so. This one is a bit easier because I know the history of both versions in my collection, but frankly, if some other mainstream official site would take over and record all of this information, I'd take my cranky perfectionist self into website retirement ;)

I don't remember ever seeing one with freckles. But I have also never seen one that was confirmed as a US mail order release. I have never had one here with freckles. And I have had a lot of regular Baby Half Notes. She's not uncommon here (with aqua eyes anyway) - the last toy fair I went to I saw 2 :P so I would've thought I'd have seen a freckly baby if there was a release like that here. So maybe, but not in the UK.

I'm also interested if purple-eye showed up anywhere OTHER than the UK. (aside Freezes pony which we don't know the origin for yet). European people..?

Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: freezestime on October 17, 2019, 10:14:16 PM
wasn't there one with freckles too, like her buggy and nursery buddies, may be the mail order one did?

Taffeta, you should change your name to Investigator Taffeta  :lol: :P i love how great you are at looking into things and finding info for us  :satisfied:


Cookies for you :D
I feel loved today.

But in seriousness, this is pretty much just all the stuff I've accumulated over 20 years or so. This one is a bit easier because I know the history of both versions in my collection, but frankly, if some other mainstream official site would take over and record all of this information, I'd take my cranky perfectionist self into website retirement ;)

I don't remember ever seeing one with freckles. But I have also never seen one that was confirmed as a US mail order release. I have never had one here with freckles. And I have had a lot of regular Baby Half Notes. She's not uncommon here (with aqua eyes anyway) - the last toy fair I went to I saw 2 :P so I would've thought I'd have seen a freckly baby if there was a release like that here. So maybe, but not in the UK.

I'm also interested if purple-eye showed up anywhere OTHER than the UK. (aside Freezes pony which we don't know the origin for yet). European people..?

I messaged the seller, and they said they buy lots from all over the world to sell.

They said they only keep minty versions of ponies they don't have and sell the rest.

They did mention that their girlfriend has 4 ponies from her childhood, but didn't allude to if they were being sold or kept.

I messaged them again asking where they got the Baby Half Note, but they've yet to respond.

I can only speculate she was included in a bulk lot from Europe, primarily Sweden since I've only seen regular eyed Half Notes on Tradera. Probably wrong though.
Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: Taffeta on October 18, 2019, 12:34:14 AM
We need a Swedish perspective,  though if they buy globally the UK is just as possible given she is not hard to find here.
Title: Re: Baby Half Note regular eye variant?
Post by: freezestime on October 18, 2019, 12:47:32 AM
We need a Swedish perspective,  though if they buy globally the UK is just as possible given she is not hard to find here.

They messaged back and she's apparently from the US! She arrived here around 6 months ago!
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