The MLP Arena
Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: Argentum-Zeena on November 04, 2012, 02:48:27 AM
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Like many of you, I've noticed that new, original brushables are becoming fewer and fewer. What they do release is what seems like endless mane 6.
This got me thinking...are the toys now promoting the show, rather than the opposite? Or, alternatively, am I just imagining things :P
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Like many of you, I've noticed that new, original brushables are becoming fewer and fewer. What they do release is what seems like endless mane 6.
This got me thinking...are the toys now promoting the show, rather than the opposite? Or, alternatively, am I just imagining things :P
No, I would agree with you. Bronies are heavily influencing what comes out for them. Which is why this upcoming year, (supposedly, according to rumor) is going to see a lot of blind bag/molded ponies coming out. Hasbro is definitely catering to the show and producing around it. Which makes sense from a business stand point but I'm assuming will annoy those hoping for lots and lots of brushables.
I also just think the endless waves of the mane six will not stop till G4 ends. It's what the show is based on and what any new fans just getting into it want to buy. My guess is every new wave of brushies will see anywhere from 2-4 non mane six ponies accompanied by a mane six set. At least if history is anything to go off of.
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I DO wish there were more new ponies, but my wallet is happy that there are only 4 every so often! It's much easier to budget!
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This time around, the show is a much more pivotal part of the marketing model than it's ever been. I don't think Hasbro expected it to be nearly as well received as it was. They may have expected to only release the Mane Six once, but then found that the show was actually avery powerful part of the brand.
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My guess is every new wave of brushies will see anywhere from 2-4 non mane six ponies accompanied by a mane six set. At least if history is anything to go off of.
Sadly this doesn't seem to be the case with the next wave after Sunny Rays and them... According to a pamphlet shown on another topic there seems to only really be main 6 brushables, besides the 2 or 3 princess brushables but they are hardly new either :hmm:
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This, and I also think they are catering to Bronies more than children which makes me extremely sad. ;~;
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This, and I also think they are catering to Bronies more than children which makes me extremely sad. ;~;
Well, they are really amping up the production of the So-Softs. I think at its core the basic Hasbro line (baby dolls, accessory-based playsets and dress-up Fashion ponies) still appeals very much to children, while the more adult-oriented collectables (Funko figurines, WeLoveFine stuff) are targeted towards the adult fans of the show. The only group that really seems neglected, even from the start, is the collectors, though there is some crossover between all three groups with the Blind Bag ponies (inexpensive, show characters, hundreds of different ones).
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I'm happy that MLP has lots of attention but I hope hasbro remembers all the collectors and not just the bronies. I'm not really a fan of blind bags, I have one, Minty thanks to a member here but I prefer the regular ponies and to see new ones at that. :newpony:
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I've kind of said this before, but what we need are more waves like the CB/SR/Trixie/Lyra one. Fans of the show get side characters they like, and people who want variety in the colours of the ponies get that, and people who want the mane six (though it's not like they're hard to find or anything) get that, since Twilight and Rarity were also in the wave. Waves like that really seem like they have the most potential to appeal to all three groups of fans, the collectors, the children, and the bronies.
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This, and I also think they are catering to Bronies more than children which makes me extremely sad. ;~;
Well, they are really amping up the production of the So-Softs. I think at its core the basic Hasbro line (baby dolls, accessory-based playsets and dress-up Fashion ponies) still appeals very much to children, while the more adult-oriented collectables (Funko figurines, WeLoveFine stuff) are targeted towards the adult fans of the show. The only group that really seems neglected, even from the start, is the collectors, though there is some crossover between all three groups with the Blind Bag ponies (inexpensive, show characters, hundreds of different ones).
This, but I really think the main aim for the line has become Bronies. In all the polls they've done, and particularly the one over at EQD, the two top selling merch items for the MLP line are Tshirts followed closely by molded figures, I.E. blind bags. (the poll was done before the funko pop ones came out. Also side, side note: I think that's one of the reasons we've started to see stuff like the vinyl figures, but that's neither here nor there.) I think they are still putting out some items aimed more at the original intended audience, little kids, but they've shifted to encompass the older fans into that equation as well. It's even gone beyond that and reversed I would say. To where now they focus on selling to Bronies while still throwing enough into it to accommodate the kids too.
It's just good business as much as it might suck. Bronies and what they focus on is where the money is at. And since the kids don't seem to mind the release of all the blind bags and many waves of the mane six either, it's a win win. Except for the original collectors of MLP. I forget who else said it here, but I would agree that all in all the ones taking the biggest hit on G4 are the original fans. Most of whom don't really fancy all the minis from what I've seen and heard.
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people who want the mane six (though it's not like they're hard to find or anything)
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^^ This made my day, particularly considering my last couple outings to TRU and WM, faced with walls of nothing but M6. Thank you! :lmao:
Edit to add: However, it occurs to me that if the powers that be over at Hasbro were truly catering more to Bronies than children/collectors, there'd probably be a big line of plushies out there by now, considering the interest and astronomical figures some of the custom plushies on eBay seem to command...
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people who want the mane six (though it's not like they're hard to find or anything)
*snippy*
^^ This made my day, particularly considering my last couple outings to TRU and WM, faced with walls of nothing but M6. Thank you! :lmao:
Edit to add: However, it occurs to me that if the powers that be over at Hasbro were truly catering more to Bronies than children/collectors, there'd probably be a big line of plushies out there by now, considering the interest and astronomical figures some of the custom plushies on eBay seem to command...
Absolutely, that would please most groups I reckon. Also, I went to Meijers the other day and they must've had 16 pegs all full of only the wedding M6. Not bad...but not good.
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people who want the mane six (though it's not like they're hard to find or anything)
*snippy*
^^ This made my day, particularly considering my last couple outings to TRU and WM, faced with walls of nothing but M6. Thank you! :lmao:
Edit to add: However, it occurs to me that if the powers that be over at Hasbro were truly catering more to Bronies than children/collectors, there'd probably be a big line of plushies out there by now, considering the interest and astronomical figures some of the custom plushies on eBay seem to command...
You'd think so. :biggrin: It's the one thing almost a given that would become "sold out" the day of release. Who knows, with all the new contracts they signed for pony licensing in 2013 maybe we will finally see some show accurate pony plushies. The line they've released so far is just... meh. Even compared to previous generation plushies the g4 ones just seem cheap to me.
To answer your question in part though, it might have something to do with the fact that all they have to do with the blind bags is recolor and push out the same molds. No effort + people still excited = easy money. They might also have signed the contract with the company that makes the plush long before the hype set in. (That's one of the reason why Fluttershy doesn't have her own BB mold.) If they are pushing the so soft line, that might be an indicator of possible plushie expansion in the future.
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This, and I also think they are catering to Bronies more than children which makes me extremely sad. ;~;
Mmm, not really? There's WLF and Hot Topic, which are definitely focusing on bronies, and TRU has that line with wallets and whatever (and the collector toys, which are something at least some kids would want even if they're aimed at bronies, I'd imagine), but aside from that I'm having a hard time thinking of stuff that isn't meant for kids? :|a MLP has what, about a hundred licensees, right... It just seems like there's more brony focus because a) most of the toys coming out now are ones we've known about for months via Taobao, and b) outside of the arena, a lot of news sites are brony-focused and therefore don't care about the stuff targeted at kids.
That said, I wish there were more new brushables, but my wallet's kind of glad there aren't. :yikes: I have enough on my hands just trying to get all of the blind bags and playsets I'm after.
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That said, I wish there were more new brushables, but my wallet's kind of glad there aren't. :yikes: I have enough on my hands just trying to get all of the blind bags and playsets I'm after.
I couldn't agree more :lol: I'm going to be playing catch up for awhile yet.
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This, but I really think the main aim for the line has become Bronies.
I don't agree with this actually. What Hasbro, very cleverly, seems to have done is cater to this unexpected fan base through licenses - WLF, Hot Topic, Funko, Enterplay these are all licensed products not Hasbro products. Hasbro are making money through licenses that they would never in any previous MLP generation have thought they could sell - a whole line of adult clothing, vinyl collectable figures, trading cards. Therefore, yes in many ways large sections of the licensing line has become brony focused but if you compare it to the other licenses for everything from food to clothing to bath products, even the merch line still has little girl products at its core. But by licensing out the production of an adult fan favourite like :muffin: Pony to Funko, they satisfy the call for the character but don't have to include her as part of the toy line.
Little girls are going to remain the focus of MLP and a toy manufacturing company like MLP which is only to be expected. Hasbro know that come gen 7 and 8 and 9 [fingers crossed it goes that long] they may not hold on to that adult fan base therefore their mission statement for the line will continue to have the core target market it has had since the 80s and will continue to have in the future.
Thats why we get a continual line up of main 6 again and again. Compare MLP to any other line now a days and unfortunately repeat characters, especially on lines based around cartoons/web episodes/tv shows, is becoming more and more common - whether it be Barbie or Monster High we see the same characters on repeat. Little girls grow tired and out of a line very quickly - there is always a group of children becoming old enough to suddenly watch the show and they are going to want to find Twilight Sparkle on the shelves not Bon Bon. FiM costs Hasbro money, the toys make Hasbro money - as much as we can all enjoy it and as much as it is getting more attention than ever before, the cartoon will stop before the toy line does unfortunately due to syndication.
Personally I agree to becoming a little disillusioned in the line a little - new characters are basically being satisfied through blind bags - pocket money, pocket sized ponies, an inch in height and with no brushable manes. A cheap and easy way to satisfy the cry for new characters. Even the one new brushable character we are waiting on is a repeat of a Glimmer Wing already released!
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Yes, the show is influencing the toy line more now, and this can especially be seen in the miniature ponies. We know almost the whole main 6 have been available throughout every wave, so here is a chronological breakdown of new brushable characters (forgive the wonky spacing and possible inacurracies) :
*put into the show to sell toys
**designed by writers or animators, not necessarily to sell the toys
Total New Characters Show Ponies A* Show Ponies B** Non-show/remakes of other gens
Wave 1: 7 7 0 0
(Euros): 2 0 0 2
Wave 2: 2 1 0 1
(Canterlot): 2 1 0 0
Wave 3: 6 1 0 5
Wave 4: 7 1 0 8
Wave 5 (train): 2 1 0 1
Wave 6: 2 0 0 2
(Euro): 1 0 0 1
(Target): 1 0 0 1
Wave 7 (wedding): 2 2 0 0
Wave 8
(wedding 2) : 4 0 4 0
ToysRUs: 5 0 5 0
Wave 9
(Crystal Empire): 0 0 0 0
We just had a great assortment of new brushables, with the 2nd wedding wave and the Collector's set, so I think the Crystal Empire set is going to be a huge letdown. Let's also remember how abysmal the train wave was with new characters, and then they stuck in Diamond rose and Cherry Pie, which was nice.
Let's hope they add some new ponies on to this new Crystal empire wave!
Oh yes, also wanted to add that the brushable lines aren't necessarily catering to bronies, they are catering to everyone who likes brushables. Let's take Lyra, etc wave as an example:
Bronies, or show fans: sometimes like the characters, even background characters
Purely Toy Collectors: Get new ponies with varied colours (green yay! more blue yay!)
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Frankly I love it that Hasbro is catering more to adult fans lately since I am an adult and not a kid and do not have kids. It's great they're recognizing that adults love My Little Pony too.
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Hathorcat, I agree! Great point about the licensing!
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people who want the mane six (though it's not like they're hard to find or anything)
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^^ This made my day, particularly considering my last couple outings to TRU and WM, faced with walls of nothing but M6. Thank you! :lmao:
Edit to add: However, it occurs to me that if the powers that be over at Hasbro were truly catering more to Bronies than children/collectors, there'd probably be a big line of plushies out there by now, considering the interest and astronomical figures some of the custom plushies on eBay seem to command...
There are plushies, at Wal-mart. But they all have yarn hair and the only ones i've seen are Twilight Sparkle, Pinkie Pie, and Rainbow Dash. They have really big heads though, thats why I haven't bought any ;)
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the Ploomette I just got from China is part of the new wave, gem eyes and tinseled hair, so I think it would be some new brushables on the "Crystal Empire " wave :)
I hope that they at least make some of these 3" ponies into Fashion Style size in the future,
but there are planty of background/secondary characters that can be released into a brushable size, I would be surprised if Hasbro ignores that.
Big Mac,Spa girls,Mr and Mrs Cake,Dr Whooves,Wonderbolts all 6 of them !!!and I'm sure i'm missing more
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Even the one new brushable character we are waiting on is a repeat of a Glimmer Wing already released!
That's okay with me- I don't collect the Glimmer Wings but I think Ploomette is gorgeous and can't wait to add her to my herd.
I agree with everything else you said as well.
The part that I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around is non-brushable MLPs. That's been their gimmick since day one- they're brightly colored ponies with hair you can comb. It hasn't stopped me from grabbing the blind bags (I like new characters and they're cheap enough) which makes me part of the problem. I'm voting with my wallet and my wallet is saying I want more blind bags. And I'm not buying more brushables because I already have the ones available at retail. But that's not what I really want- they could stop the blind bags tomorrow and I'd be happy as long as brushables continued. But I suspect I'm not alone on this- how many others here are buying blind bags because that's where new characters are available, as opposed to those who like them better than the Playful Ponies line of brushables?
Obviously the brushables are not as profitable as repaints of the same five molds for blind bags. Considering since the G4 line came out we've already seen a reduction in quality (loss of forelocks), Hasbro is squeezing every ounce of quality out of the line to stay profitable at the $5.00 price point.
Walmart is big enough to demand prices from their suppliers. That's why so many companies squeeze every penny they can before raising the price anyway (you can't fight inflation with quality cuts forever). I'd rather see quality remain the same and increase the price accordingly, but I know I'm in the minority on that one. Especially on a product that's designed specifically for children as opposed to adult collectors. Mom & dad are more likely to spend $5.00 on a toy than $7.00.
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people who want the mane six (though it's not like they're hard to find or anything)
*snippy*
^^ This made my day, particularly considering my last couple outings to TRU and WM, faced with walls of nothing but M6. Thank you! :lmao:
Edit to add: However, it occurs to me that if the powers that be over at Hasbro were truly catering more to Bronies than children/collectors, there'd probably be a big line of plushies out there by now, considering the interest and astronomical figures some of the custom plushies on eBay seem to command...
There are plushies, at Wal-mart. But they all have yarn hair and the only ones i've seen are Twilight Sparkle, Pinkie Pie, and Rainbow Dash. They have really big heads though, thats why I haven't bought any ;)
They do, it's true - my son has a Dashie, and he loves that pony to bits! (Thanks again, madhatterda! ^.^) But notably missing, if there was a stronger focus on kowtowing to the brony market, are the other three of the Mane 6 (Fluttershy does have her legions of fans, and Rarity and Applejack have their devotees as well), not to mention She Who Must Not Be Named, then other brony faves like Lyra, BonBon, DJ Pon3, Dr. Whooves, and so on. If they just crank out a few Mane 6 plushies, it's just more of the same, alas... though a lot of custom plushie makers will be happy, as it's more business for them - and there are some downright gorgeous custom plushies out there! ;)
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see pony merch of any stripe! I just kind of get the impression that Hasbro doesn't really know which way to turn with regards to their unforeseen success in new markets. In my humble opinion, they find themselves in the same spot as the miller and his son, in Aesop's fable. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_miller,_his_son_and_the_donkey if you aren't familiar with it.)
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I DO wish there were more new ponies, but my wallet is happy that there are only 4 every so often! It's much easier to budget!
agree, sad but saving $$
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But notably missing, if there was a stronger focus on kowtowing to the brony market, are the other three of the Mane 6 (Fluttershy does have her legions of fans, and Rarity and Applejack have their devotees as well)...
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to see pony merch of any stripe! I just kind of get the impression that Hasbro doesn't really know which way to turn with regards to their unforeseen success in new markets. In my humble opinion, they find themselves in the same spot as the miller and his son, in Aesop's fable. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_miller,_his_son_and_the_donkey if you aren't familiar with it.)
I think having only three of the mane six as a start with the plushies is a way that they ensure not having to commit fully if it ends up as a bust toy sale wise. I know an official Fluttershy plush is hitting shelves in a few months which should soon be followed by the remaining two.
As for the lack of background characters that is purposefully intentional on Hasbro's part. A lot of the fan favorites have very iffy and problomatic issues to work around "officially" that they can avoid by cycling the work out. It's why the funko pop figures don't say ":muffin: Pony" and the "Doctor Whooves" one is probably going to say Time Turner. It's purely a tactic to avoid backlash should there be a lot. (After all, when you can claim the company you hired was "unaware" of the name/s or its/there nature, you can avoid problems down the line and easily fix issues should they pop up.) The trading cards are another perfect example: they are rife with inside jokes for the fandom that Hasbro "officially" could never acknowledge themselves but could always claim to be unaware existed if they needed to change what was said. This way no one gets sued and everyone's happy.
As for the main products decided shift into blind bags it's solely due, at least according to their people, on how those things keep flying off the shelves compared to the other toys in the line. Lets face it, a new brushable is about as much work for G4 as a new blind bag. It's just a recolor of one of the same six molds. But they are downplaying the brushies because they don't sell as well. Assuming most children are indifferent to blind bag vs. brushie (my little sister prefers the brushies but loves both) then it's the adults tipping the scale. The 3 dollar difference between the two toys isn't enough to chalk up simply to impulse buy/parent pleasing and compromising price.
Which leaves the adult collectors who like myself ;) horde the blind bags like no one's business. In short they market to the money and right now the money being spent is largely in the hands of the tv show's fringe following. Whether or not it's Bronies specifically the line is seeming to cater more to adults now.
(Btw in case I come off sounding like an ass/angry/any combination of both, I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong or piss anyone off. :) I just tend to ramble and come across as pig headed sometimes when I "debate" any issue. :P)
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Frankly I love it that Hasbro is catering more to adult fans lately since I am an adult and not a kid and do not have kids. It's great they're recognizing that adults love My Little Pony too.
You don't need to be a kid to enjoy kids toys. I'm sure a lot of people here agree on that. XP
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I hope the lack of extras isn't because bronies used to whine whenever Hasbro made a non-show pony. I don't think they mind now, but it used to be whenever Equestria Daily posted "Hey, here's a new toy that's been found but she's not on the show!" bronies would say "WAHHH WHERE'S LUNA?!"
Of course there's a parade of Lunas now so...
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@Appletini I am interested in your comment that brushables are not selling? I am curious as to where that information has come from? You surely just have to look at the new leaflet of ponies to see the sheer amount of brushable ponies [albeit that they are the same main 6] that Hasbro intend to introduce this year? Most people may not like the continuous cycle of the main 6 but they are still churning main 6 brushables out - all of whom are a more significant investment in production cost than the blind bags would ever be.
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(': Technically no, because Hasbro's focus has always been on making money. It's just not how it used to be and it It all comes down to marketing. The releasing of tons of ponies with generic names, and lots of colors, and etc, is just not what seems to be profitable AT THIS TIME.
^^; I don't think this recent "wedding pony" thing was marketed toward Bronies. So it's not like they are ignoring kids either. Fact of the matter is, is there an adult line with merchadise -- it's not for Bronies, it's for *** ALL OF US *** that enjoy FiM and are wanting to buy merch.
I enjoy the slower pace...
aha. KitKatVintage below me said what I was thinking, but failed to put into words.
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Before FiM/g4, Hasbro had already set their toy line to focus in the "core 7" at the end of g3. I think that with FiM, they always intended to continue to focus on a core group of recognizable characters. At Pony Fairs before FiM, Hasbro Marketing said that their research found that the target audience (little girls age 3-6) preferred a few characters that they could relate to, instead of endless different ponies with no known character to back them up.
I don't think Hasbro is focusing on marketing their toys to Bronies. As mentioned, they are doing that with licensed products. Hasbro is first & foremost a toy company. A toy company's long term success is dependent on what children & parents want, not what adult fans want.
As far as "fan favorite" characters go, my friend's 4 year old wanted nothing but Nightmare Moon last Christmas. The Target Princess Luna was ok, but she was still no Nightmare Moon. Her second biggest want? Zecora! So just because Bronies & adult fans love these characters, don't think that kids don't love them just as much. ;) This year that little pony fan will be getting her wish, lol.
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Wow, wasn't expecting such a large response!
I feel I should clarify my opinion on the matter: It's not that I think they're targeting the toys at Bronies in particular, it's just that I feel more effort and resources are put into the show than the toy line itself. I'm not saying a high quality show is bad, though! Just that they toys shouldn't be neglected for it.
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@Appletini I am interested in your comment that brushables are not selling? I am curious as to where that information has come from? You surely just have to look at the new leaflet of ponies to see the sheer amount of brushable ponies [albeit that they are the same main 6] that Hasbro intend to introduce this year? Most people may not like the continuous cycle of the main 6 but they are still churning main 6 brushables out - all of whom are a more significant investment in production cost than the blind bags would ever be.
I know for myself I feel they are not selling well because I am seeing them show up at discount stores that usually get second hand merchandise that other bigger stores can't move. They sell it to the second hand chain and they sell it for about 50 off. MLP G4 brushables are really in all these places, but very few of them are on store shelves.
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@Appletini I am interested in your comment that brushables are not selling? I am curious as to where that information has come from? You surely just have to look at the new leaflet of ponies to see the sheer amount of brushable ponies [albeit that they are the same main 6] that Hasbro intend to introduce this year? Most people may not like the continuous cycle of the main 6 but they are still churning main 6 brushables out - all of whom are a more significant investment in production cost than the blind bags would ever be.
I know for myself I feel they are not selling well because I am seeing them show up at discount stores that usually get second hand merchandise that other bigger stores can't move. They sell it to the second hand chain and they sell it for about 50 off. MLP G4 brushables are really in all these places, but very few of them are on store shelves.
Wouldn't that be speculation though? Those stores also get merchandise when too much has been ordered as well. For instance, the blind bags were out initially at JC Penney outlet stores-- which is a store that runs like that (I find clearance Forever 21 shirts there). But I would constantly go to TJ Maxx (which also functions like that) on hunt for the 5 pack of molded hair ponies to collect the Pinkie Pies for bases-- and I barely ever saw any brushables at any TJ Maxx -- in *my* area-- for months on end. And I travel a big circle of 60 mile radius ^__^; . Only that 5 pack and the light up ones. Granted, I haven't been in one for a few months... I'm just saying, for my area, it didn't seem like there were too many popping up at those stores.
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I think the ALL the toys sell well (my Target has been depleted of the Crystal Empire line twice over already, and my TRU can't keep many of their new products on the shelf).
I don't think bronies will ever be the focus of Hasbro and MLP - and I think Hathorcat summed it up perfectly with regards to the licensing. I don't take the polls at EQD seriously at all, because I think those tend to be brony-centric, and not a good cross-section of the many types of people who buy MLP.
I grew up in the 80's with MLP, have been actively collecting them for nearly 20 years, and now my four daughters love playing with ponies. Hands down they are targeted for little girls - and if adults far and wide like them too, then that's just an added bonus.
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I wouldn't mind them producing more FiM type stuff if they made some really cool stuff like actually PLAYSETS like Ponyville and stuff. Stuff our blind bags could be used with. I have about 20 brushables so I wouldn't feel cheated if they focused more on the show, but only if they made some cool toys. Not just blind bags. I like the new figure sets. The more I pass them in the stores, the more I like them. But I want something to go WITH them for display purchases. Like a really cool castle playset or the apple farm.. Twilight Sparkles Library/House..
They could do all that, and continue to casually release brushables and I'd be all right with it. I'm trying to focus on G3 brushables anyway so.. it's not like we collectors don't have other ponies to track down. I guess I'm just open for change lol.
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Yeah, this....I actually have been getting into other toy franchises as a result =/
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To me it seems, and we talked about that with the Bore 7, that Hasbro and other toy companies are just assuming that kids nowadays are more stupid and uncreative than they were in the 80s, 90s and before. I don't like this idea at all. A toy should make the kid's imagination run wild, creating stories and then playing those stories. Kids don't only need recognizable characters to replay what they have seen on TV! They want to invent their own stories and characters! If you have 20 Pinkie twins, what kind of story can you create, other than something of a clone invasion ...
It makes me very sad that this is the business route companies are taking now ...
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Its sad to see that is not much good :( But then its means more money for G1's :)
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I wouldn't mind them producing more FiM type stuff if they made some really cool stuff like actually PLAYSETS like Ponyville and stuff. Stuff our blind bags could be used with. I have about 20 brushables so I wouldn't feel cheated if they focused more on the show, but only if they made some cool toys. Not just blind bags. I like the new figure sets. The more I pass them in the stores, the more I like them. But I want something to go WITH them for display purchases. Like a really cool castle playset or the apple farm.. Twilight Sparkles Library/House..
I don't know if this has been posted yet, but it's a glimmer of hope for the blindbags. Maybe. Hopefully!
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Saw it on TRU's Canadian website the other day. It may not be full playsets, but at least there are some accessories! Just thought I'd mention it. ^.^
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Before FiM/g4, Hasbro had already set their toy line to focus in the "core 7" at the end of g3. I think that with FiM, they always intended to continue to focus on a core group of recognizable characters. At Pony Fairs before FiM, Hasbro Marketing said that their research found that the target audience (little girls age 3-6) preferred a few characters that they could relate to, instead of endless different ponies with no known character to back them up.
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Yeah I think you're right. Kids want ponies they know... Not ... "who is this?, nah, I'll pass". Hasbro wants the little girls to say "Look mommy! There's Rarity!"
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well the argument could be made that the influx of main 6 is geared toward one group or another or it could just be you know that it's easier. You don't have to design anything, come out with a new mold, new plastic color, new hair. The blind bags are small cheep and only come in three molds that can be repainted in any color ( well four now since the wave 5? I think)
Hasbro stuck to a core of ponies in g3 and if anyone recalls G2 there were a few ponies that were released in the G2 line, as I recall Ivy was released...7 different times
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Before FiM/g4, Hasbro had already set their toy line to focus in the "core 7" at the end of g3. I think that with FiM, they always intended to continue to focus on a core group of recognizable characters. At Pony Fairs before FiM, Hasbro Marketing said that their research found that the target audience (little girls age 3-6) preferred a few characters that they could relate to, instead of endless different ponies with no known character to back them up.
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Yeah I think you're right. Kids want ponies they know... Not ... "who is this?, nah, I'll pass". Hasbro wants the little girls to say "Look mommy! There's Rarity!"
I heard some young girl scream "OMG ! PRINCESS CADANCE" in the store. XD She was reaaaaally excited and she had to have it.
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Saw it on TRU's Canadian website the other day. It may not be full playsets, but at least there are some accessories! Just thought I'd mention it. ^.^
Aren't those Ponyville accessories recycled??
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Mechandise wise (non-toys), yes, it's very Brony centric. Hot Topic, TRU, Fye, all carry MLP things, 90% with the word "Brony" on them.
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The Core 6 strategy doesn't have anything to do with bronies, IMO. Why would bronies want seven brushable Pinkie Pies, any more than a toy collector would? I think this is the equivalent of Batman toylines where Batman and his main allies/villains are produced a billion times. Night-Glo Batman! Underwater Batman! Space Batman! And so on.
I don't mind the Core 6 being on shelves at all time, but I do feel it hurts the line overall not to have MANY MORE NON-SHOW BRUSHABLES than they have. (Or background ponies.) Wind Whistler, North Star, and Paradise were some of the main characters in "MLP & Friends", but I desperately wanted Masquerade (who had very few moments of glory on the cartoon) and Starshine (who didn't have any) because I loved their color schemes. The show influences what kids want, but not TOTALLY.
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I know I was super happy when they released Luna!!
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I'm voting with my wallet and my wallet is saying I want more blind bags. And I'm not buying more brushables because I already have the ones available at retail. But that's not what I really want- they could stop the blind bags tomorrow and I'd be happy as long as brushables continued. But I suspect I'm not alone on this- how many others here are buying blind bags because that's where new characters are available, as opposed to those who like them better than the Playful Ponies line of brushables?
You're not alone! I'm right there with you. I love blind bags, but let's be honest, I could do without them. I had the same mentality with the Ponyville line in G3. I think most people are have a quantity over quality mentality. And I'll be honest, I've noticed that mentality a lot with the bronies. I've noticed that bronies seem more apt to buy ANYTHING pony related, whereas collectors collect their niche items, which for most of us is brushables.
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While I am on the same boat that many of you are sailing on [too much Mane 6] I am kind of thankful that they keep them in stock. Point-in-case: The Fashion Style ponies. If they hadn't decided to rerelease Applejack and Rarity, many of us [okay, me] wouldn't be able to get them. So at least it makes it possible for everyone [collectors and kiddos] to have an opportunity to own the main characters from the show.
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Before FiM/g4, Hasbro had already set their toy line to focus in the "core 7" at the end of g3. I think that with FiM, they always intended to continue to focus on a core group of recognizable characters. At Pony Fairs before FiM, Hasbro Marketing said that their research found that the target audience (little girls age 3-6) preferred a few characters that they could relate to, instead of endless different ponies with no known character to back them up.
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Yeah I think you're right. Kids want ponies they know... Not ... "who is this?, nah, I'll pass". Hasbro wants the little girls to say "Look mommy! There's Rarity!"
I don't fully buy that since MLP did fine before the "core 7/main 6" stuff. Nor do i believe parents are very eager to re-buy the same toy over and over. Kids don't need 5 Twilight Sparkles.
I know that the excuse is that they wish to keep the main characters on the shelves. But it has gone beyond that. EVERY new set has a main pony slapped into it. There are like 3 different ways to get the exact same pony these days. Currently we have the bridesmaid sets, the playful ponies with wedding accessoiries and some playsets/packs that contain a main 6 pony. And it seems the new crystal empire wave will be pretty much the same. I think that's some overkill.
And not only are they being slapped into everything, the re-releases lack any kind of effort. Even core 7 G3 had more effort put into them. They don't use any new poses. The toyline is several years old and we still pretty much have that one pose. There is no excuse for that. And core 7 G3 at least changed the cutie marks with every new wave. These days we are lucky to have some glitter and tinsel...It's no wonder that the merchandise is becoming more interesting than the actual toyline.
A this point i think the re-releases are mostly a way to save money. Having to put out a character again and again doen't mean you have to do it like this. Just look at Monster High. They know how to do it. they also know how to add a new character from time to time.
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Well, I don't like the lack of OC brushables being produced. However, if there isn't anything for me to give my money to hasbro for, then I will happily turn back to the previous generations to work on. Someone will get my pony money. lol
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Very well said, Malicieuse. It's one thing to re-use a main cast of characters, and quite another to literally release the exact same toy over and over and over.
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Before FiM/g4, Hasbro had already set their toy line to focus in the "core 7" at the end of g3. I think that with FiM, they always intended to continue to focus on a core group of recognizable characters. At Pony Fairs before FiM, Hasbro Marketing said that their research found that the target audience (little girls age 3-6) preferred a few characters that they could relate to, instead of endless different ponies with no known character to back them up.
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Yeah I think you're right. Kids want ponies they know... Not ... "who is this?, nah, I'll pass". Hasbro wants the little girls to say "Look mommy! There's Rarity!"
I don't fully buy that since MLP did fine before the "core 7/main 6" stuff. Nor do i believe parents are very eager to re-buy the same toy over and over. Kids don't need 5 Twilight Sparkles.
I know that the excuse is that they wish to keep the main characters on the shelves. But it has gone beyond that. EVERY new set has a main pony slapped into it. There are like 3 different ways to get the exact same pony these days. Currently we have the bridesmaid sets, the playful ponies with wedding accessoiries and some playsets/packs that contain a main 6 pony. And it seems the new crystal empire wave will be pretty much the same. I think that's some overkill.
And not only are they being slapped into everything, the re-releases lack any kind of effort. Even core 7 G3 had more effort put into them. They don't use any new poses. The toyline is several years old and we still pretty much have that one pose. There is no excuse for that. And core 7 G3 at least changed the cutie marks with every new wave. These days we are lucky to have some glitter and tinsel...It's no wonder that the merchandise is becoming more interesting than the actual toyline.
A this point i think the re-releases are mostly a way to save money. Having to put out a character again and again doen't mean you have to do it like this. Just look at Monster High. They know how to do it. they also know how to add a new character from time to time.
in some ways i see the logic behind re-releasing the main 6 from a new viewers point of view, but on the other hand, what happens when they have the main 6? they will become disinterested as they won't be able to get new ponies, and move on to something else. and as a parent, i don't want to buy my kid the same toy over and over again. From a 4 yo's point of view, she "knows" all the characters in the show and wants them all - she doesn't understand why the shops have some and not others. i think hasbro is making a mistake here, kids that young don't relate to anything, they are attracted by bright pretty things :)
our reward pony trip last week was a joke, she managed to get diamond rose, but there was about 12 racks of rainbow dash, each rack 4 deep - some variety would be nice!!!
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=295758130533858&set=a.294022740707397.64263.100002990193788&type=3&theater
wow, so much to choose from!!!
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=295758470533824&set=a.294022740707397.64263.100002990193788&type=3&theater
i've moved her onto g3's now, it's much easier to find one she doesn't have, plus she still knows the characters from the older books and dvd's.
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I do think the core characters has a good idea behind it as far as wanting children to recognize and identify with core characters but I agree with what has been stated by others here that Hasbro did just fine back in the 80's and 90's with making the core characters available but along with a strong variety of other characters either on show or off. I do think they should go along with the show when it comes to toys but adding in characters that are only a toy and not on the show is not such a bad thing. Again it is sad to think that they expect children now to be less creative or something, like they aren't capable of making up their own characters and stories with new toys that are not from the show. Children don't just want to repeat everything on the show. They want to make their own world up too.
Also it seems silly I agree with others that there has been a lack of brushables for this gen when compared to others as that has always been Hasbros main thing and they have always done well with it not only in MLP but also with other things as well (for instance Fairy Tail birds and the like) BUT I cannot deny the appeal of blindbags, children like them too and as an adult collector/fan I don't have a lot of room to display ponies (many of mine are stored in the basement in totes sadly) but the blindbags are exciting, provide many characters, are easy to display and store and if one gets knocked on the floor or something it's not likely to hurt them much. And the cost, I can easily purchase a handful of them for a reasonable price.
I do think it is silly that the brushables are all seemingly alike to the point that I have not purchased a single one. I want them but they don't seem to be worth $5 to me in all honesty and I don't know where I would put them to boot.
I wish they'd do like G1 and make some smaller ones (blind bag sized) with a brushy tale and/or main. The G1 petite ponies I would love to start collecting (I have none) but they cost about the same or more than purchasing some regular sized brushable G1's and I can't justify doing that when I'd just as easily be happy with the regular sized.
okay I am rambling now. I hope some of that made sense.
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I've kind of said this before, but what we need are more waves like the CB/SR/Trixie/Lyra one. Fans of the show get side characters they like, and people who want variety in the colours of the ponies get that, and people who want the mane six (though it's not like they're hard to find or anything) get that, since Twilight and Rarity were also in the wave. Waves like that really seem like they have the most potential to appeal to all three groups of fans, the collectors, the children, and the bronies.
I really agree with this. If every wave (or even every other wave) had 2 of the main six, 2 of the background/side character ponies, and two brand new ponies, then Hasbro would be covering all their bases.
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I think G3 was doing it right as well. Sure, we did get a bazillion Pinkie Pie rereleases, but we still got VARIETY. They rereleased a few of the main cast, but released a ton of other ponies as well.
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Hasbro is definitely favoring minis at the moment. They already have wave 8 made! The only good brushable we got this wave is white Celestia, and I'm still holding my breath for Ploomette. I'm hoping the next wave will be much more interesting.
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I know it must be hard for Hasbro to please everyone: collector's, kids, fans of FIM. I'm sure there's a way to do it. I miss pony shopping. The time I enjoyed pony shopping the most was during the G3 days, before the core 7. :bawl:
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My daughter prefers G3 as well. More variety, the thrill of the hunt when shopping, better quality. She's 7. I just bought Puzzle Mint on E-bay. There was much SQUEEE when she arrived.
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My daughter prefers G3 as well. More variety, the thrill of the hunt when shopping, better quality. She's 7. I just bought Puzzle Mint on E-bay. There was much SQUEEE when she arrived.
Ooh Puzzlemint. She was also sought after during that one movie where she appeared, or movie short. I think it was on the Runaway Rainbow movie, the short.
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This is making me somewhat frustrated and slightly depressed.
It's clear that Hasbro is catering to the bronies, rather than the children.
I consider myself more in the "children" group than in the "brony" group to be honest. I realize that as a company, they're trying to make money and this is why they are doing it, but it still makes me rather sad. However, I'm more inclined to buy G1s and customs now because my interest in the G4 toys isn't as big as it once was.
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This is making me somewhat frustrated and slightly depressed.
It's clear that Hasbro is catering to the bronies, rather than the children.
I consider myself more in the "children" group than in the "brony" group to be honest. I realize that as a company, they're trying to make money and this is why they are doing it, but it still makes me rather sad. However, I'm more inclined to buy G1s and customs now because my interest in the G4 toys isn't as big as it once was.
I agree. I'm also very tired of people arguing and getting bashed over liking a certain generation or people who are set in their ways about FIM and bashing other generations. I mean, we never had to worry about threads getting deleted or locked because of certain people arguing or bashing. I want the arena to stay peaceful and those who can't help keep it that way shouldn't be here, or find another place to be mean to others.
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I do have to admit, I'm probably in the "I really, really want new Hasbroc brushables, or even some Background Ponies from the show, but am fine with Blind Bags right now" category XD. The only thing I dislike is that I want ALL of the blind bags, but I can't find half of them. LOL. Maybe we'll get even more molds for BBs. Love all of the g3s in em.
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This is making me somewhat frustrated and slightly depressed.
It's clear that Hasbro is catering to the bronies, rather than the children.
I consider myself more in the "children" group than in the "brony" group to be honest. I realize that as a company, they're trying to make money and this is why they are doing it, but it still makes me rather sad. However, I'm more inclined to buy G1s and customs now because my interest in the G4 toys isn't as big as it once was.
I agree. I'm also very tired of people arguing and getting bashed over liking a certain generation or people who are set in their ways about FIM and bashing other generations. I mean, we never had to worry about threads getting deleted or locked because of certain people arguing or bashing. I want the arena to stay peaceful and those who can't help keep it that way shouldn't be here, or find another place to be mean to others.
There's people bashing G1 in here now!? Really? :O
You know, I left youtube because of that problem. I'm now really upset that this problem has spread to a collecting website that for the most part focuses more on G1 and the other older generations.
If people aren't going to be respectful of what others like, why are they here in the first place? I don't want people causing drama in what I thought was a safe place from it.
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This is making me somewhat frustrated and slightly depressed.
It's clear that Hasbro is catering to the bronies, rather than the children.
I consider myself more in the "children" group than in the "brony" group to be honest. I realize that as a company, they're trying to make money and this is why they are doing it, but it still makes me rather sad. However, I'm more inclined to buy G1s and customs now because my interest in the G4 toys isn't as big as it once was.
I agree. I'm also very tired of people arguing and getting bashed over liking a certain generation or people who are set in their ways about FIM and bashing other generations. I mean, we never had to worry about threads getting deleted or locked because of certain people arguing or bashing. I want the arena to stay peaceful and those who can't help keep it that way shouldn't be here, or find another place to be mean to others.
There's people bashing G1 in here now!? Really? :O
You know, I left youtube because of that problem. I'm now really upset that this problem has spread to a collecting website that for the most part focuses more on G1 and the other older generations.
If people aren't going to be respectful of what others like, why are they here in the first place? I don't want people causing drama in what I thought was a safe place from it.
I like what you like. :wave: I'm a Brony. I like g4 better than g1, but I still love g1.
I say this website focuses on technicolor ponies!!! ;)
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I hope they keep releasing g4ified g3's, in brushable form, too. There are a few nice G3's with rainbow manes and tails that I like.
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This is making me somewhat frustrated and slightly depressed.
It's clear that Hasbro is catering to the bronies, rather than the children.
I consider myself more in the "children" group than in the "brony" group to be honest. I realize that as a company, they're trying to make money and this is why they are doing it, but it still makes me rather sad. However, I'm more inclined to buy G1s and customs now because my interest in the G4 toys isn't as big as it once was.
I agree. I'm also very tired of people arguing and getting bashed over liking a certain generation or people who are set in their ways about FIM and bashing other generations. I mean, we never had to worry about threads getting deleted or locked because of certain people arguing or bashing. I want the arena to stay peaceful and those who can't help keep it that way shouldn't be here, or find another place to be mean to others.
There's people bashing G1 in here now!? Really? :O
You know, I left youtube because of that problem. I'm now really upset that this problem has spread to a collecting website that for the most part focuses more on G1 and the other older generations.
If people aren't going to be respectful of what others like, why are they here in the first place? I don't want people causing drama in what I thought was a safe place from it.
There are people who are only fans of FIM and they think anything before FIM is--G1's and G3's are far less superior. Some new people here are like that, and some aren't. You can tell who they are by the way they act.
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There are a few nice G3's with rainbow manes and tails that I like.
:lookround: [also wants many rainbow ones]
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Looks like Hasbro has become Hasbrony. Sigh.
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Wouldn't Chocolate Chipper be adorable as G4?
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We have to keep in mind that the stuff we see at Hot Topic are done by third party companies, and are brony-centered obviously. I was excited when they started doing MLP at Hot Topic but I was hoping for more of a retro type thing since that's what they were doing before, like 80's and early 90's TV shows and stuff. I was hoping to see G1 style shirts, or wallets or jewelry or something along with the brony stuff.
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This is making me somewhat frustrated and slightly depressed.
It's clear that Hasbro is catering to the bronies, rather than the children.
I consider myself more in the "children" group than in the "brony" group to be honest. I realize that as a company, they're trying to make money and this is why they are doing it, but it still makes me rather sad. However, I'm more inclined to buy G1s and customs now because my interest in the G4 toys isn't as big as it once was.
I agree. I'm also very tired of people arguing and getting bashed over liking a certain generation or people who are set in their ways about FIM and bashing other generations. I mean, we never had to worry about threads getting deleted or locked because of certain people arguing or bashing. I want the arena to stay peaceful and those who can't help keep it that way shouldn't be here, or find another place to be mean to others.
There's people bashing G1 in here now!? Really? :O
You know, I left youtube because of that problem. I'm now really upset that this problem has spread to a collecting website that for the most part focuses more on G1 and the other older generations.
If people aren't going to be respectful of what others like, why are they here in the first place? I don't want people causing drama in what I thought was a safe place from it.
There are people who are only fans of FIM and they think anything before FIM is--G1's and G3's are far less superior. Some new people here are like that, and some aren't. You can tell who they are by the way they act.
I only know of one person who is like that and I tend to ignore them. It makes me sad that people have to think something is any less "superior"
i guess there's not much we can do about it unless they break the rules. :(
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Looks like Hasbro has become Hasbrony. Sigh.
Like what has been said above me, I think Hasbro itself is still catering to children, it's things like Funko and other third party companies. :huh:
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This is making me somewhat frustrated and slightly depressed.
It's clear that Hasbro is catering to the bronies, rather than the children.
I consider myself more in the "children" group than in the "brony" group to be honest. I realize that as a company, they're trying to make money and this is why they are doing it, but it still makes me rather sad. However, I'm more inclined to buy G1s and customs now because my interest in the G4 toys isn't as big as it once was.
I agree. I'm also very tired of people arguing and getting bashed over liking a certain generation or people who are set in their ways about FIM and bashing other generations. I mean, we never had to worry about threads getting deleted or locked because of certain people arguing or bashing. I want the arena to stay peaceful and those who can't help keep it that way shouldn't be here, or find another place to be mean to others.
There's people bashing G1 in here now!? Really? :O
You know, I left youtube because of that problem. I'm now really upset that this problem has spread to a collecting website that for the most part focuses more on G1 and the other older generations.
If people aren't going to be respectful of what others like, why are they here in the first place? I don't want people causing drama in what I thought was a safe place from it.
There are people who are only fans of FIM and they think anything before FIM is--G1's and G3's are far less superior. Some new people here are like that, and some aren't. You can tell who they are by the way they act.
So what if someone likes G4 better than the earlier gens? Or even doesn't like the earlier gens at all? Last I checked there wasn't a requirement to like earlier generations equally to be here? As long as people are not making fun of someone for liking what they like (which I never see happening here) who cares if anyone has a bias for a certain gen?
So says someone who likes all gens equally as toys but likes the show for FIM best.
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This is making me somewhat frustrated and slightly depressed.
It's clear that Hasbro is catering to the bronies, rather than the children.
I consider myself more in the "children" group than in the "brony" group to be honest. I realize that as a company, they're trying to make money and this is why they are doing it, but it still makes me rather sad. However, I'm more inclined to buy G1s and customs now because my interest in the G4 toys isn't as big as it once was.
I agree. I'm also very tired of people arguing and getting bashed over liking a certain generation or people who are set in their ways about FIM and bashing other generations. I mean, we never had to worry about threads getting deleted or locked because of certain people arguing or bashing. I want the arena to stay peaceful and those who can't help keep it that way shouldn't be here, or find another place to be mean to others.
There's people bashing G1 in here now!? Really? :O
You know, I left youtube because of that problem. I'm now really upset that this problem has spread to a collecting website that for the most part focuses more on G1 and the other older generations.
If people aren't going to be respectful of what others like, why are they here in the first place? I don't want people causing drama in what I thought was a safe place from it.
There are people who are only fans of FIM and they think anything before FIM is--G1's and G3's are far less superior. Some new people here are like that, and some aren't. You can tell who they are by the way they act.
So what if someone likes G4 better than the earlier gens? Or even doesn't like the earlier gens at all? Last I checked there wasn't a requirement to like earlier generations equally to be here? As long as people are not making fun of someone for liking what they like (which I never see happening here) who cares if anyone has a bias for a certain gen?
It shouldn't matter. That's right. The point of this forum is to discuss MLP not specifically G1's, G2's, G3's, or G4's.
My point was that there are people here and on other sites who bash others for liking anything besides G4's. I was not bashing people who like only G4's. Sorry if you weren't talking to me.
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This is making me somewhat frustrated and slightly depressed.
It's clear that Hasbro is catering to the bronies, rather than the children.
I consider myself more in the "children" group than in the "brony" group to be honest. I realize that as a company, they're trying to make money and this is why they are doing it, but it still makes me rather sad. However, I'm more inclined to buy G1s and customs now because my interest in the G4 toys isn't as big as it once was.
I agree. I'm also very tired of people arguing and getting bashed over liking a certain generation or people who are set in their ways about FIM and bashing other generations. I mean, we never had to worry about threads getting deleted or locked because of certain people arguing or bashing. I want the arena to stay peaceful and those who can't help keep it that way shouldn't be here, or find another place to be mean to others.
There's people bashing G1 in here now!? Really? :O
You know, I left youtube because of that problem. I'm now really upset that this problem has spread to a collecting website that for the most part focuses more on G1 and the other older generations.
If people aren't going to be respectful of what others like, why are they here in the first place? I don't want people causing drama in what I thought was a safe place from it.
There are people who are only fans of FIM and they think anything before FIM is--G1's and G3's are far less superior. Some new people here are like that, and some aren't. You can tell who they are by the way they act.
I don't think people act like that here. I don't know what you saw or heard, but the FiM fans are always nice and respectful to older gen fans. In fact, there is a great overlap of people who like both.
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I think we need to stop being offended at all the Hot Topic stuff. I think we all can agree that Hot Topic's mission is to SELL SELL SELL. Whatever's popular at the time, sell it! When I was younger, it was all about gothic clothing and fancy artbooks and jewelry and makeup. Then it started doing t-shirts and cds and comics and accessories. Then there were patches and stickers and MORE accessories. And whatever was new was suddenly in that store - it's a pop culture store. Star Wars, Family Guy, Care Bears, superheroes, Sandman, Froud, Lord of the Rings, Pirates of the Caribbean, Happy Tree Friends... I could go on...
FiM is just a trendy cartoon at the moment. When it ends, there will be inevitably something else that's awesome. Maybe by that point, the new popular cartoon is about a gender-bending vampire and his trusty robot mech who loves ice cream and lobsters. Whatever. Then Hot Topic will sell lobster bedroom slippers, plush robots and keychains that double as lipstick containers.
If you like the merchandise with pony stuff on it, buy it. If not, don't. If you want something that's not being made, there are other markets where those things can be bought or commissioned. :) Lots of artists do great things on Etsy!
But I don't think Hasbro is IGNORING us so much as realizing that they can slap Rainbow Dash on anything, anything really, and make at least $12.95 off the venture... :-p They're just not creating products or licensing products yet that we have expressed interest in buying. So change that. Write your favorite manufacturers of "stuff" and ask them if they are going to make pony stuff. :)
Really, if you'd rather see Victoria's Secret stock the pony panties than Hot Topic, please by all means, let Victoria's Secret know!
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I don't think people act like that here. I don't know what you saw or heard, but the FiM fans are always nice and respectful to older gen fans. In fact, there is a great overlap of people who like both.
Not so much here, but it's very rude on certain sites. I'm happy that the Arena is pretty much free of the majority of that.
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I don't think people act like that here. I don't know what you saw or heard, but the FiM fans are always nice and respectful to older gen fans. In fact, there is a great overlap of people who like both.
Not so much here, but it's very rude on certain sites. I'm happy that the Arena is pretty much free of the majority of that.
Hehe, yeah I was definitely referring to the Arena only. I am happy everyone is nice to each other here :)
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This is making me somewhat frustrated and slightly depressed.
It's clear that Hasbro is catering to the bronies, rather than the children.
I consider myself more in the "children" group than in the "brony" group to be honest. I realize that as a company, they're trying to make money and this is why they are doing it, but it still makes me rather sad. However, I'm more inclined to buy G1s and customs now because my interest in the G4 toys isn't as big as it once was.
I agree. I'm also very tired of people arguing and getting bashed over liking a certain generation or people who are set in their ways about FIM and bashing other generations. I mean, we never had to worry about threads getting deleted or locked because of certain people arguing or bashing. I want the arena to stay peaceful and those who can't help keep it that way shouldn't be here, or find another place to be mean to others.
There's people bashing G1 in here now!? Really? :O
You know, I left youtube because of that problem. I'm now really upset that this problem has spread to a collecting website that for the most part focuses more on G1 and the other older generations.
If people aren't going to be respectful of what others like, why are they here in the first place? I don't want people causing drama in what I thought was a safe place from it.
There are people who are only fans of FIM and they think anything before FIM is--G1's and G3's are far less superior. Some new people here are like that, and some aren't. You can tell who they are by the way they act.
I don't think people act like that here. I don't know what you saw or heard, but the FiM fans are always nice and respectful to older gen fans. In fact, there is a great overlap of people who like both.
I have seen it here some, that's how the arguments happen sometimes, between people who are only fans of FIM and people who like everything else. I'm not saying in any way that FIM is bad. I like the show and have some of the ponies, as well as G1's and G3's. My personal preference is G1's and G3's. I'm just happy that hasbro is still making MLP. It isn't just me though, I've seen other people here say the same thing, saying they've seen bashing and what not.
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I'm probably the only one that doesn't care if people are out there bashing what I like. I say "good for them, they're missing out :lol:"
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I'm probably the only one that doesn't care if people are out there bashing what I like. I say "good for them, they're missing out :lol:"
That's how I feel too. I'm not offended if people say G1's or G3's are stupid. It doesn't change my opinion of them.
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Please can we not use this thread as a general discussion about how fans treat one another here or elsewhere on the internet. The thread is about Hot Topic and general merchandise. Can we head back on to topic please.
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I actually see more from previous gen fans towards G4 fans than the other way around. People who talk about the things some bronies on other sites do while forgetting that all bronies are is fans of FIM and that some people here might actually identify as bronies or be friends with one. Bronies can even also be fans of earlier gens since the two are not mutually exclusive.
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I wish Hot Topic sold some retro MLP stuff too.
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I wish Hot Topic sold some retro MLP stuff too.
THIS. I feel older gens need some more merch. And not just female clothing.
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I wish Hot Topic sold some retro MLP stuff too.
THIS. I feel older gens need some more merch. And not just female clothing.
They are doing retro rainbow brite and have backpacks, pillow pets, cups, bracelets, shirts, etc. Rainbow Brite has changed it's look for a new generation and they are still doing the retro rainbow brite stuff at hot topic. All they have are webisodes on the website but still.
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I wish Hot Topic sold some retro MLP stuff too.
THIS. I feel older gens need some more merch. And not just female clothing.
They are doing retro rainbow brite and have backpacks, pillow pets, cups, bracelets, shirts, etc. Rainbow Brite has changed it's look for a new generation and they are still doing the retro rainbow brite stuff at hot topic. All they have are webisodes on the website but still.
GASP!!! Retro Rainbow Brite stuff!!!??? :O
Want want want!
I'm super excited now. Thanks so much for sharing.
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I wish Hot Topic sold some retro MLP stuff too.
THIS. I feel older gens need some more merch. And not just female clothing.
They are doing retro rainbow brite and have backpacks, pillow pets, cups, bracelets, shirts, etc. Rainbow Brite has changed it's look for a new generation and they are still doing the retro rainbow brite stuff at hot topic. All they have are webisodes on the website but still.
GASP!!! Retro Rainbow Brite stuff!!!??? :O
Want want want!
I'm super excited now. Thanks so much for sharing.
Welcome. :) Most Walmarts have a shirt in the juniors section where the graphic t-shirts are and hot topic has tons of stuff.
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I wish Hot Topic sold some retro MLP stuff too.
THIS. I feel older gens need some more merch. And not just female clothing.
They are doing retro rainbow brite and have backpacks, pillow pets, cups, bracelets, shirts, etc. Rainbow Brite has changed it's look for a new generation and they are still doing the retro rainbow brite stuff at hot topic. All they have are webisodes on the website but still.
GASP!!! Retro Rainbow Brite stuff!!!??? :O
Want want want!
I'm super excited now. Thanks so much for sharing.
Welcome. :) Most Walmarts have a shirt in the juniors section where the graphic t-shirts are and hot topic has tons of stuff.
Awesome. Sadly, I don't fit junior sizes but I'm very pleased they're making retro merch.
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I always used to get sad (and still do) when they would have these retro shirts for old 80's things and they wouldn't fit me unless I was a toothpick. Like they used to have a Last Unicorn shirt and I wanted it so much, but it didn't fit. :( I'm wishing they would have more shirts that are colorful, fit well, and are on their mane characters. Like somebody said they have a Grey Pegasus shirt but I'm not a fan of her nor do I like Dr. Hooves. But I'd love like a nice blue shirt with Rainbow Dash or Luna or Fluttershy. Maybe a larger size pink Pinkie Pie shirt?
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I always used to get sad (and still do) when they would have these retro shirts for old 80's things and they wouldn't fit me unless I was a toothpick. Like they used to have a Last Unicorn shirt and I wanted it so much, but it didn't fit. :( I'm wishing they would have more shirts that are colorful, fit well, and are on their mane characters. Like somebody said they have a Grey Pegasus shirt but I'm not a fan of her nor do I like Dr. Hooves. But I'd love like a nice blue shirt with Rainbow Dash or Luna or Fluttershy. Maybe a larger size pink Pinkie Pie shirt?
I know. :( Not all fans of MLP have thin, small super-model bodies. I like how they're making mens shirts but wish they'd make RETRO ones. Most of the G1 MLP shirts they make now are in womens sizes and styles which means I'd feel uncomfortable wearing them, even in a large size. I also found a Pinkie Pie shirt that I really wanted but it did not fit and I went home very sad.
Plus I'd prefer if the shirts featured the main characters.
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I always used to get sad (and still do) when they would have these retro shirts for old 80's things and they wouldn't fit me unless I was a toothpick. Like they used to have a Last Unicorn shirt and I wanted it so much, but it didn't fit. :( I'm wishing they would have more shirts that are colorful, fit well, and are on their mane characters. Like somebody said they have a Grey Pegasus shirt but I'm not a fan of her nor do I like Dr. Hooves. But I'd love like a nice blue shirt with Rainbow Dash or Luna or Fluttershy. Maybe a larger size pink Pinkie Pie shirt?
I know. :( Not all fans of MLP have thin, small super-model bodies. I like how they're making mens shirts but wish they'd make RETRO ones. Most of the G1 MLP shirts they make now are in womens sizes and styles which means I'd feel uncomfortable wearing them, even in a large size. I also found a Pinkie Pie shirt that I really wanted but it did not fit and I went home very sad.
Plus I'd prefer if the shirts featured the main characters.
A lot of the G1 MLP clothes I have seen are meant for children. There's a hoodie, robe and some pajamas that I want, but they're for little girls. I wish I was a toothpick again. I'm not huge, but I'm a size 6 with some curves now.
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Yes, and no.
They're obviously catering to bronies. They are also (attempting) to cater with children with the "Barbie formula", but as we saw with Bore 7, they're not very good at it.
They're just leaving collectors in the dust. I'm not sure why. Did the Underwater Pony, Junko Mizuno Pony, and retro sets all bomb in sales? If so, why did they?
I can imagine the retro sets bombing because well, let's admit this: some collectors are extremely, extremely picky. They want original curl, no mark on the pony, they want perfection. I believe I recall a lot of upturned noses in the direction of the retro sets, because they weren't "exact", the plastic was too hard, the hair was off color a slight, etc. Maybe the same thing happened with the Underwater Pony and that line of collectible G3s.
I, personally, adored the retro sets and bought them as soon as I could find them. I wish Hasbro would have continued it (what I would do for a Glory) actually, but oh well. The collectible "art ponies" were also neat, but I admittedly didn't enjoy the orange one, and never got the chance to buy the Underwater.
I'm guessing that Hasbro took a chance with collectors, didn't meet quota, and is afraid to take a chance again.
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I hope the lack of extras isn't because bronies used to whine whenever Hasbro made a non-show pony. I don't think they mind now, but it used to be whenever Equestria Daily posted "Hey, here's a new toy that's been found but she's not on the show!" bronies would say "WAHHH WHERE'S LUNA?!"
Of course there's a parade of Lunas now so...
The funny thing was when some people were complaining about Sunny Rays and Cherry Berry not being from the show. Baaah, you call yourselves fans? Sunny Rays has popped but once or twice and Cherry Berry is a frequent part of the background. She's even had LINES! XD ( Putting your Hoof Down)
I've kind of said this before, but what we need are more waves like the CB/SR/Trixie/Lyra one. Fans of the show get side characters they like, and people who want variety in the colours of the ponies get that, and people who want the mane six (though it's not like they're hard to find or anything) get that, since Twilight and Rarity were also in the wave. Waves like that really seem like they have the most potential to appeal to all three groups of fans, the collectors, the children, and the bronies.
I really agree with this. If every wave (or even every other wave) had 2 of the main six, 2 of the background/side character ponies, and two brand new ponies, then Hasbro would be covering all their bases.
Here here! That would be WONDERFUL.
Yes, and no.
They're obviously catering to bronies. They are also (attempting) to cater with children with the "Barbie formula", but as we saw with Bore 7, they're not very good at it.
They're just leaving collectors in the dust. I'm not sure why. Did the Underwater Pony, Junko Mizuno Pony, and retro sets all bomb in sales? If so, why did they?
I can imagine the retro sets bombing because well, let's admit this: some collectors are extremely, extremely picky. They want original curl, no mark on the pony, they want perfection. I believe I recall a lot of upturned noses in the direction of the retro sets, because they weren't "exact", the plastic was too hard, the hair was off color a slight, etc. Maybe the same thing happened with the Underwater Pony and that line of collectible G3s.
I, personally, adored the retro sets and bought them as soon as I could find them. I wish Hasbro would have continued it (what I would do for a Glory) actually, but oh well. The collectible "art ponies" were also neat, but I admittedly didn't enjoy the orange one, and never got the chance to buy the Underwater.
I'm guessing that Hasbro took a chance with collectors, didn't meet quota, and is afraid to take a chance again.
I really liked those retro sets and I was disapointed that all I could find was damaged ones when I had enough on me to buy the one with Butterscotch. Had to restyle the hair to get it properly curled but I still liked them.
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The upcoming waves look to be missing anything other than the Mane Six, but the most recent wave had Lyra, Trixie, Sunny Rays, and Cherry Berry. It'd be awesome to get four new Playful Ponies every wave, but I'd be happy with two. I don't think any of us would be satisfied unless they released like, six new Playful Ponies and two Fashion Styles every three months. We're collectors, you know? We have different expectations and we're going to be tough to satisfy. Two ways to alienate us; no new ponies, or way more ponies than any of us could ever buy. Not sure if we're at 'no new ponies', it's one wave that's dried up. I'm hoping for more, but we'll see.
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I think they're catering to Americans and Bronies.
They only release Target and Toys R Us exclusives to America. They apparently think that other countries won't buy them. Wut. But the show has become more or less for Bronies. So many puns in them now it isn't funny.
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I think they're catering to Americans and Bronies.
They only release Target and Toys R Us exclusives to America. They apparently think that other countries won't buy them. Wut. But the show has become more or less for Bronies. So many puns in them now it isn't funny.
But on balance the rest of the world get exclusives which the US do not [Star Swirl, SkyWishes, Rainbow Flash] and often US exclusive lines do indeed make it elsewhere. Canada and the UK have now seen most of the Canterlot lines and in Australia you have got FS Shining Armour & Cadance whereas other countries have so far missed out on this set.
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A lot of the G1 MLP clothes I have seen are meant for children. There's a hoodie, robe and some pajamas that I want, but they're for little girls. I wish I was a toothpick again. I'm not huge, but I'm a size 6 with some curves now.
Am I the only one who finds it a bit strange that the vast majority of adult clothing features G4 but most of the G1 designs are on children's clothing who presumably don't know anything about G1?
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I still never dreamed that when the new MLP show came out a couple years ago that in the future they would be catering to bronies and primarily male fans. :/ Nothing wrong with men liking the show, but I never thought MLP would take this turn. It makes me angry to think about.
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Yea Dazzle I agree its just plain weird.
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A lot of the G1 MLP clothes I have seen are meant for children. There's a hoodie, robe and some pajamas that I want, but they're for little girls. I wish I was a toothpick again. I'm not huge, but I'm a size 6 with some curves now.
Am I the only one who finds it a bit strange that the vast majority of adult clothing features G4 but most of the G1 designs are on children's clothing who presumably don't know anything about G1?
I find it very strange as well. Most people who like G1 are adults. How many children actually know about G1 if they don't have an older relative that knows about it? It's really frustrating. :'(
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I still never dreamed that when the new MLP show came out a couple years ago that in the future they would be catering to bronies and primarily male fans. :/ Nothing wrong with men liking the show, but I never thought MLP would take this turn. It makes me angry to think about.
I was doing some thinking and wanted to add on some more to this statement of mine.
I just want to get it out there that I have NO problem with male fans of the show nor male collectors. What I DO have an issue with is the sexism that starts when a fanbase goes primarily male. Disrespect to female fans, guys claiming it's only cool because men like it, selfishness in expecting the sh ow to cater to them, and disregard for the show's original roots (ex: hating on G3s and G1s).
I was very active in the anime community for years. I used to be very into anime. I still have a collection of about 900 anime DVDs. But I never watch it anymore. I haven't watched anime in about two years. I got sick of all the creepers in the fandom, sexism, etc. Like guys would watch a show that has a lot of what you'd call "fanservice" for women and complain about it when most anime shows out there are catered to men. So when ONE show does it, they whine and moan. This is what I fear the FiM show is spawning.
I also used to be active on sites for video games. Same thing there. Sarcasm towards female players, bashing any female-pandered game, etc.
Please don't bash me for this. It's just my feelings. I've never been one for cosplay. I think there IS a time and place for it, and I have seen some cute pony cosplay. I am going to my first pony convention in July. My brothers and maybe my parents will accompany me and even pay their own cover charge to get in. I already dread the spectacles they'll see. I mean, JERRY SPRINGER had a special with bronies. A big guy dressed in a pink tutu and a girl dressed as Rainbow Dash doing skits on the show. I know this convention is going to have tons of this crap. To me it borders on creepy. I am hoping for a convention with a bunch of fans/collectors getting together and chatting, buying, selling, and trading. But my brother is SUPER excited to see some of the hardcore fans and dudes dressed up as ponies. They say it will be great facebook fodder. They are threatening to become bronies and dress up as unicorns. LOL.
Cosplayers, please don't hate me. I used to think it was cool until I met some people that don't know the difference between cosplay and reality. Took a Japanese class in college and most of them were anime fans. I don't think it's cool to come to class with cat ears. I felt embarrassed walking in there. Maybe I'm too uptight?
*sigh* I don't like being negative. I loved the MLP community because it's a great community to embrace the femininity of liking colorful ponies (and a great place for men who love ponies to embrace to too!). But the new fans, the bronies, have made my enjoyment of the G4s dwindle. I feel as a collector who has been into ponies for 15 years is being pushed out of my own fandom. Maybe I am strange for feeling this way but ponies are a large part of my life, as they are for many of us. Many members here spend time every day on this forum so they know what I mean. It's bad when you are the ones who supported MLP for so long and now that a new group has come in and taken over, it's all for them.
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I have to say that I think the biggest reason they are trying to tie the toys in to the show rather than the other way around, is due to the immense popularity the show has.
Bluntly put, that is where the money is. I wouldn't say they are catering to the bronies specifically, but fans of the show.
With the upcoming (recently released for some area) releases of Crystal Motion Ponies as well as an increased focus on the plush ponies, I think they are really trying to court most sides of the fandom at once.
Stupidly I passed up the wave 4 brushables since at the time I was only collecting the Main Six ponies, but now I really am dying to get a few new styles instead of re-releases of the core group.
Blind bags are insanely popular in my area, and even at my store we have had all the boxes we got in sell out very quickly. Unfortunately we can't compete price-wise with the larger stores so we don't get as many in stock as we would like to. Those seem to be catering to the older fans, both bronies and fans of other generation callback ponies.
Maybe if I had been collecting since childhood I wold feel differently, but I think there is quite a bit of variety out there for fans young and old.
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I have to say that I think the biggest reason they are trying to tie the toys in to the show rather than the other way around, is due to the immense popularity the show has.
Bluntly put, that is where the money is. I wouldn't say they are catering to the bronies specifically, but fans of the show.
DING DING DING! You win the prize! That's exactly what Hasbro is doing... it's not to personally offend the 10,000 or so collectors on the Arena. :-p They're just trying to make as much money as they can off this new cartoon fad before the next wave of cool animated series released on cable TV stations comes out.
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Regarding the retro sets, they were really terrible in quality. TERRIBLE. Thin hair, hard plastic, "wrong" colors, and the symbols scratched or wiped off really easily. (Maybe because of the hard plastic?)
But I feel like we have only ourselves to blame for that, because when Hasbro polled us--remember that, that online poll thing?--asking what people would be willing to pay for repro ponies, a lot of people said $5 each.
$5 each. For something that requires making a new mold, making non "standard G3" packaging, and is only going to appeal to a niche audience. Weeeeell, you get what you pay for, as the saying goes.
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But I feel like we have only ourselves to blame for that, because when Hasbro polled us--remember that, that online poll thing?--asking what people would be willing to pay for repro ponies, a lot of people said $5 each.
$5 each. For something that requires making a new mold, making non "standard G3" packaging, and is only going to appeal to a niche audience. Weeeeell, you get what you pay for, as the saying goes.
Hey! I remember when Hasbro approached us and asked what we'd like, if they were to bring some collectors' merchandise to life.
For all those members who think Hasbro doesn't listen.... they don't. Anymore.
Because we told them we'd buy repro ponies for $5. They made two sets and priced them at $15 for 3 ponies. Then we promptly complained bitterly about every single thing - the mold, the colors, the plastic, the symbols, the hair... and refused to buy them. They lingered in stock for months in stores and then made their way through secondary retailers like TJ Maxx, Big Lots, etc. We still didn't buy them!
No wonder Hasbro doesn't pay attention to our ideas anymore! :-p Men said, "Hasbro, make us t-shirts in men's fit" and they faithfully shop at Hot Topic and We Love Fine and buy the all shirts available. I really, honestly, don't hold any blame to Hasbro over this... I would have made the same executive decision myself. :-p
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But I feel like we have only ourselves to blame for that, because when Hasbro polled us--remember that, that online poll thing?--asking what people would be willing to pay for repro ponies, a lot of people said $5 each.
$5 each. For something that requires making a new mold, making non "standard G3" packaging, and is only going to appeal to a niche audience. Weeeeell, you get what you pay for, as the saying goes.
Hey! I remember when Hasbro approached us and asked what we'd like, if they were to bring some collectors' merchandise to life.
For all those members who think Hasbro doesn't listen.... they don't. Anymore.
Because we told them we'd buy repro ponies for $5. They made two sets and priced them at $15 for 3 ponies. Then we promptly complained bitterly about every single thing - the mold, the colors, the plastic, the symbols, the hair... and refused to buy them. They lingered in stock for months in stores and then made their way through secondary retailers like TJ Maxx, Big Lots, etc. We still didn't buy them!
No wonder Hasbro doesn't pay attention to our ideas anymore! :-p Men said, "Hasbro, make us t-shirts in men's fit" and they faithfully shop at Hot Topic and We Love Fine and buy the all shirts available. I really, honestly, don't hold any blame to Hasbro over this... I would have made the same executive decision myself. :-p
That is exactly what happens in most situations where the fans are listened to. The most hardcore and dedicated fans are the ones to be vocal about what they want, but they also have a much higher sense of quality than the casual fans.
I have seen this happen constantly in the gaming and collectibles industry. Companies ask what fans want in the new editions or reprints of older ones, and the ones that were most excited were also the most disappointed.
This is what is happening right now in the production hell of Dungeons & Dragons "Next" (AKA 5th Edition) Hasbro (big surprise, eh?) is trying to let players have their say in how the newest edition is going to shape up. Right now it is a mix of 4th edition and 3.5 edition (4th is much more new player friendly, but is more loose with GM-ing guidance, 3.5 is much more hardcore power gamer number cruncher friendly)
The problem is many of the people that are testing D&D are thinking they are going to get the exact game THEY want and the way THEY want it, when it releases I guarantee most of those people won't even consider buying it because it doesn't live up to their ridiculous standards.
Companies have to walk a fine line in between non-mainstream customer satisfaction and making lots of money.
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I have to say that I think the biggest reason they are trying to tie the toys in to the show rather than the other way around, is due to the immense popularity the show has.
Bluntly put, that is where the money is. I wouldn't say they are catering to the bronies specifically, but fans of the show.
DING DING DING! You win the prize! That's exactly what Hasbro is doing... it's not to personally offend the 10,000 or so collectors on the Arena. :-p They're just trying to make as much money as they can off this new cartoon fad before the next wave of cool animated series released on cable TV stations comes out.
Haha, I love this post, Squirmy. Money... isn't that the truth of the matter :)
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I can imagine the retro sets bombing because well, let's admit this: some collectors are extremely, extremely picky. They want original curl, no mark on the pony, they want perfection. I believe I recall a lot of upturned noses in the direction of the retro sets, because they weren't "exact", the plastic was too hard, the hair was off color a slight, etc. Maybe the same thing happened with the Underwater Pony and that line of collectible G3s.
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I'm guessing that Hasbro took a chance with collectors, didn't meet quota, and is afraid to take a chance again.
That's how I feel to, if I'm being honest. I don't personally mind minor imperfections, but I've seen several collectors who do.
I have to say that I think the biggest reason they are trying to tie the toys in to the show rather than the other way around, is due to the immense popularity the show has.
Bluntly put, that is where the money is. I wouldn't say they are catering to the bronies specifically, but fans of the show.
Also agreeing with this.
Having said that, I don't care for womens clothing at all, so perhaps in a way I'm glad they have changed at least a little bit. That also may make me a little biased though.
Took a Japanese class in college and most of them were anime fans. I don't think it's cool to come to class with cat ears. I felt embarrassed walking in there. Maybe I'm too uptight?
Er, I'd feel the same way. I don't find many people who like Japan for the country anymore, they always seem to be more interested in it because 'anime' :(
And because it just came up, I also agree with everything lovesbabysquirmy said! Hasbro, and any company, will choose to produce merchandise that will sell. And if collectors choose to complain about quality, whereas bronies purchase everything with a minimal of complaints... Well. You know how it goes!
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I would've been willing to pay $15 - $20 each for good quality repro ponies who came on a bubble-card. And that would not really be an outrageous price at all, considering the original My Little Ponies cost $5 each . . . IN THE 80s. $5 in 1983 is the equivalent of $10 in today's money.
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I was doing some thinking and wanted to add on some more to this statement of mine.
I just want to get it out there that I have NO problem with male fans of the show nor male collectors. What I DO have an issue with is the sexism that starts when a fanbase goes primarily male. Disrespect to female fans, guys claiming it's only cool because men like it, selfishness in expecting the sh ow to cater to them, and disregard for the show's original roots (ex: hating on G3s and G1s).
I was very active in the anime community for years. I used to be very into anime. I still have a collection of about 900 anime DVDs. But I never watch it anymore. I haven't watched anime in about two years. I got sick of all the creepers in the fandom, sexism, etc. Like guys would watch a show that has a lot of what you'd call "fanservice" for women and complain about it when most anime shows out there are catered to men. So when ONE show does it, they whine and moan. This is what I fear the FiM show is spawning.
I also used to be active on sites for video games. Same thing there. Sarcasm towards female players, bashing any female-pandered game, etc.
Are you me? I agree completely. And I also don't watch anime anymore or go to conventions, when I used to go to conventions religiously every year. I feel like it just gets worse and worse -- more and more gross. I didn't even have fun when I went anymore. So I just stopped going. And basically, yes, your first paragraph is spot on.
I used to think it was cool until I met some people that don't know the difference between cosplay and reality. Took a Japanese class in college and most of them were anime fans. I don't think it's cool to come to class with cat ears. I felt embarrassed walking in there. Maybe I'm too uptight?
You are not too uptight. I used to take Japanese too and it was the exact same thing in my classes. It drives me crazy. (Noticed I say "used to take" Japanese...lol.)
It's bad when you are the ones who supported MLP for so long and now that a new group has come in and taken over, it's all for them.
Yes again.
Basically, your post is completely flawless.
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Er, I'd feel the same way. I don't find many people who like Japan for the country anymore, they always seem to be more interested in it because 'anime' :(
I love anime, but I love Japan for the culture, the movies, art, food, the landscape! That place is BEAUTIFUL.
Japanese traditions are awesome and I personally wish I could live there.
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whereas bronies purchase everything with a minimal of complaints... Well. You know how it goes!
Sorry, but I disagree with that observation. I observed that the bronies were extremely vocal about the G4 toys. I don't think they're the ones buying the toys IMO- I just cannot see how they'd complain and still buy the toys.
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whereas bronies purchase everything with a minimal of complaints... Well. You know how it goes!
Sorry, but I disagree with that observation. I observed that the bronies were extremely vocal about the G4 toys. I don't think they're the ones buying the toys IMO- I just cannot see how they'd complain and still buy the toys.
Gotta agree with you disagreeing.
There are certain ones like the Fan Favorites set, Zecora, Lyra, Trixie that are super hot with bronies, as well as anything that actually has the art style from the show.
the main six I don't see as much.
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whereas bronies purchase everything with a minimal of complaints... Well. You know how it goes!
Sorry, but I disagree with that observation. I observed that the bronies were extremely vocal about the G4 toys. I don't think they're the ones buying the toys IMO- I just cannot see how they'd complain and still buy the toys.
Gotta agree with you disagreeing.
There are certain ones like the Fan Favorites set, Zecora, Lyra, Trixie that are super hot with bronies, as well as anything that actually has the art style from the show.
the main six I don't see as much.
This. Most of the bronies I know complain constantly about "show accuracy". A lot won't even buy the brushables because they don't have the right hairstyles (others try to re-style the hair, of course), which is why the Blind Bags are more popular... But then you get Fluttershy in RD's pose which that kind of brony won't be seen dead with, and the dreaded "recolours". Because, you know, any blind bag character that DOESN'T feature in FiM is merely a "recolour" of the main six. It couldn't be that Hasbro are just using a few moulds for lots of different characters to cut costs as they - and other toy companies - have done for years.
This might be why they're sticking to a "Core Six" characters with just the odd new pony here or there. Where people used to complain about the Core Seven and the lack of variety, diehard FiM show fans don't tend to like (or buy) characters that haven't starred in the show. Of course, another answer would be to put more characters in the show and then release those as toys...but perhaps Hasbro aren't willing to take the risk of being accused of (*gasp*) advertising more toys through their cartoons.
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That's fair enough then. I'm only a part of one other site which has a section dedicated to bronies, and the bronies there have never complained about the toys (well, one person did once, and they were ridiculed for it unfortunately).
Er, I'd feel the same way. I don't find many people who like Japan for the country anymore, they always seem to be more interested in it because 'anime' :(
I love anime, but I love Japan for the culture, the movies, art, food, the landscape! That place is BEAUTIFUL.
Japanese traditions are awesome and I personally wish I could live there.
That's exactly how I feel. More people need to appreciate Japan for everything it is, IMHO :)
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This. Most of the bronies I know complain constantly about "show accuracy". A lot won't even buy the brushables because they don't have the right hairstyles (others try to re-style the hair, of course), which is why the Blind Bags are more popular... But then you get Fluttershy in RD's pose which that kind of brony won't be seen dead with, and the dreaded "recolours".
LOL I'm like the exact opposite! XD I even bought the smaller pink Celestia one time because "I wanted ponies!" :P I don't even give two hoots about the hair, and the blind bag Fluttershy is fine, IMO. A pony is a pony! I couldn't care less about show accuracy, we got a White Celestia, and RD's eyes are now round (DO AJ'S NOW!), so I'm fine. It's nice to get more accurate figures, but I still would most likely buy one that's way off. Because when I want an MLP, I get one!
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Bronies too want more variety of characters (i.e., show characters). The Core 6 thing is more about imitating "Barbie Strategy". Or Teenage Mutant Turtles, or . . . well, lots of toylines. Man, when you think about how many versions of Optimus Prime have been made . . .
The thing is, though, kids like different toylines for different reasons.
Barbie is a fashion doll. The point of her is to dress her, undress her, lose the clothes, and whine for another doll. :P It makes sense to put forth the same character again and again in different clothes.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is an action figure line. The point is to take your characters into battle. The toys are therefore jointed, have neat battle accessories, and often "battle actions". So it makes sense to make a bunch of different versions of the same four turtles, each with different accessories / battle actions.
Transformers is about the ability to change your toy from one thing (robot) to another (vehicle or animal). If you make the transformation different on each Optimus Prime toy, each one brings something unique to the table.
My Little Pony is not about fashion (even though there's pony clothes). It is not about action features (even though there are ponies with tails that spin or legs that move). It's not about changing the character from one thing to another (even though some ponies had hair that changed color or backs that opened).
Ultimately, My Little Pony is about variance of the PONIES THEMSELVES. Collecting a bunch of different characters so they can make friends and have tea parties and fight monsters and go on adventures together.
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whereas bronies purchase everything with a minimal of complaints... Well. You know how it goes!
Sorry, but I disagree with that observation. I observed that the bronies were extremely vocal about the G4 toys. I don't think they're the ones buying the toys IMO- I just cannot see how they'd complain and still buy the toys.
Gotta agree with you disagreeing.
There are certain ones like the Fan Favorites set, Zecora, Lyra, Trixie that are super hot with bronies, as well as anything that actually has the art style from the show.
the main six I don't see as much.
This. Most of the bronies I know complain constantly about "show accuracy". A lot won't even buy the brushables because they don't have the right hairstyles (others try to re-style the hair, of course), which is why the Blind Bags are more popular... But then you get Fluttershy in RD's pose which that kind of brony won't be seen dead with, and the dreaded "recolours". Because, you know, any blind bag character that DOESN'T feature in FiM is merely a "recolour" of the main six. It couldn't be that Hasbro are just using a few moulds for lots of different characters to cut costs as they - and other toy companies - have done for years.
This might be why they're sticking to a "Core Six" characters with just the odd new pony here or there. Where people used to complain about the Core Seven and the lack of variety, diehard FiM show fans don't tend to like (or buy) characters that haven't starred in the show. Of course, another answer would be to put more characters in the show and then release those as toys...but perhaps Hasbro aren't willing to take the risk of being accused of (*gasp*) advertising more toys through their cartoons.
This. I hate that "recolour" nonsense.
It's even more stupid when you realize a certain grey pegasus is nothing but a Rainbow Dash "recolour". : P
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There are still a lot of characters left that Bronies would totally love to get their hands on, even in brushable form. You saw how popular Trixie and Lyra were. Golden Harvest/Carrot Top, Minuette/Colgate, Sweety Drops/Bon Bon, and Big Mac are just to name a few fan favorites.
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I think they'd get a lot of positive response if they made a boy mold and brought out Big Macintosh. Then they could repaint him.
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They do have a boy mold in the playful size. It can't be that hard to remove the horn from the Shining Armor mold, can it? I agree that they would make a lot of money on a Big Mac. He is after all an actual recurring character with a speaking role (so to speak) and family connections to one of the mane 6 and one of the CC. We see him more often than Luna for sure. Little girls will actually recognize him as opposed to some of the more obscure background ponies.
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There are still a lot of characters left that Bronies would totally love to get their hands on, even in brushable form. You saw how popular Trixie and Lyra were. Golden Harvest/Carrot Top, Minuette/Colgate, Sweety Drops/Bon Bon, and Big Mac are just to name a few fan favorites.
*drools at brushables of those.*
Don't forget Berry Punch and Octavia!!!
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Regarding the retro sets, they were really terrible in quality. TERRIBLE. Thin hair, hard plastic, "wrong" colors, and the symbols scratched or wiped off really easily. (Maybe because of the hard plastic?)
My sets were amazing. Yes, they were hard plastic, but it didn't bother me (I love TE's and they're hard as rocks anyway) the hair was great, and there was no problem with the symbols. I loved the fact I could finally own a bright white Starshine with no flaws whatsoever. I think "terrible" is a tad overdramatic in describing them.
Because we told them we'd buy repro ponies for $5. They made two sets and priced them at $15 for 3 ponies. Then we promptly complained bitterly about every single thing - the mold, the colors, the plastic, the symbols, the hair... and refused to buy them. They lingered in stock for months in stores and then made their way through secondary retailers like TJ Maxx, Big Lots, etc. We still didn't buy them!
No wonder Hasbro doesn't pay attention to our ideas anymore! :-p Men said, "Hasbro, make us t-shirts in men's fit" and they faithfully shop at Hot Topic and We Love Fine and buy the all shirts available. I really, honestly, don't hold any blame to Hasbro over this... I would have made the same executive decision myself. :-p
This! Exactly this. I recall the extremely bitter and nearly hateful posts about the retro sets, while I just sat back in awe. Hasbro made something for us (for once) and all people would do, is complain. The loudest voices are the only ones heard.
This may even be why Hasbro is shifting focus from brushables to well, everything else. I see a lot of collectors complaining about various things with them.
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I still never dreamed that when the new MLP show came out a couple years ago that in the future they would be catering to bronies and primarily male fans. :/ Nothing wrong with men liking the show, but I never thought MLP would take this turn. It makes me angry to think about.
I was doing some thinking and wanted to add on some more to this statement of mine.
I just want to get it out there that I have NO problem with male fans of the show nor male collectors. What I DO have an issue with is the sexism that starts when a fanbase goes primarily male. Disrespect to female fans, guys claiming it's only cool because men like it, selfishness in expecting the sh ow to cater to them, and disregard for the show's original roots (ex: hating on G3s and G1s).
I was very active in the anime community for years. I used to be very into anime. I still have a collection of about 900 anime DVDs. But I never watch it anymore. I haven't watched anime in about two years. I got sick of all the creepers in the fandom, sexism, etc. Like guys would watch a show that has a lot of what you'd call "fanservice" for women and complain about it when most anime shows out there are catered to men. So when ONE show does it, they whine and moan. This is what I fear the FiM show is spawning.
I also used to be active on sites for video games. Same thing there. Sarcasm towards female players, bashing any female-pandered game, etc.
Please don't bash me for this. It's just my feelings. I've never been one for cosplay. I think there IS a time and place for it, and I have seen some cute pony cosplay. I am going to my first pony convention in July. My brothers and maybe my parents will accompany me and even pay their own cover charge to get in. I already dread the spectacles they'll see. I mean, JERRY SPRINGER had a special with bronies. A big guy dressed in a pink tutu and a girl dressed as Rainbow Dash doing skits on the show. I know this convention is going to have tons of this crap. To me it borders on creepy. I am hoping for a convention with a bunch of fans/collectors getting together and chatting, buying, selling, and trading. But my brother is SUPER excited to see some of the hardcore fans and dudes dressed up as ponies. They say it will be great facebook fodder. They are threatening to become bronies and dress up as unicorns. LOL.
Cosplayers, please don't hate me. I used to think it was cool until I met some people that don't know the difference between cosplay and reality. Took a Japanese class in college and most of them were anime fans. I don't think it's cool to come to class with cat ears. I felt embarrassed walking in there. Maybe I'm too uptight?
*sigh* I don't like being negative. I loved the MLP community because it's a great community to embrace the femininity of liking colorful ponies (and a great place for men who love ponies to embrace to too!). But the new fans, the bronies, have made my enjoyment of the G4s dwindle. I feel as a collector who has been into ponies for 15 years is being pushed out of my own fandom. Maybe I am strange for feeling this way but ponies are a large part of my life, as they are for many of us. Many members here spend time every day on this forum so they know what I mean. It's bad when you are the ones who supported MLP for so long and now that a new group has come in and taken over, it's all for them.
I started talking about this same thing over a year ago; http://doctormowinckel.tumblr.com/post/8703583063/the-term-brony
This woman had the misfortune of being exposed to the worst of the 'brony' community; [link removed as per site rules ~ many thanks ~ hathorcat]
I distance myself from that side of the community. I collect ponies and play with their hair. The show isn't even secondary, it's tertiary. For me, it's styling, collecting, then the show. If it goes kaput, I won't bat an eye. I'll still be playin' with pony hair.
One of my friends muses that since I like hair and am bald, ponies are an outlet for me to play with some lovely locks. I'm not sure they're right, but I'm also not sure that they're wrong.
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Gotta admit that I'm not very picky and I loved the repro sets. I kept them MIB because I adored the retro look of the packing.....it's sooooo G1 and awesome. I really wish they had continued doing stuff like that. It was a nice nod to collectors.
Just my musings.
Gah i am at work right now and the blog is blocked from my work website. I'll have to read it when I get home.
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It's sad the community did not embrace the repros better. o__O; For *me* I saw them in the store by chance, and it's definitely what made me start re-collecting as an adult. And if I wasn't here, I probably would of never known of FiM ... (and then other people in my life wouldn't of known of FiM, because it was me encouraging some of my friends to look into it-- and they enjoy it a lot).
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There are still a lot of characters left that Bronies would totally love to get their hands on, even in brushable form. You saw how popular Trixie and Lyra were. Golden Harvest/Carrot Top, Minuette/Colgate, Sweety Drops/Bon Bon, and Big Mac are just to name a few fan favorites.
*drools at brushables of those.*
Don't forget Berry Punch and Octavia!!!
If they produce Octavia, I think it would be more along the lines of the Other Grey Pony. For Bronycon or some sort of exclusive. I don't know if Hasbro would take a chance on a grey pony that doesn't have another, more child-friendly color.
Carrot Top, Bon Bon and Big Mac should have a good chance, I figure. Big Mac for the reasons already discussed but those two girls totally fit with what they are already doing but don't look like anything already done. CT/GH is a nice, sunny looking design and BB/SD has the pink they like to get in there AND candy as her symbol. Kids love candy-themed stuff, right? Or at least Hasbro probably thinks they do which is good enough to her her out there!
(Pretty please, Hasbro My Lyra needs somebody to hang out with and my Cherry Berry needs someone to bounce bad jokes off.)
I don't know what kind of chance Minuette has. I'd love to see her produced but would Hasbro consider her exciting enough? For Berry Punch, we might get Berryshine the unicorn insted.
I started talking about this same thing over a year ago; http://doctormowinckel.tumblr.com/post/8703583063/the-term-brony
This woman had the misfortune of being exposed to the worst of the 'brony' community; [link removed as per site rules ~ many thanks ~ hathorcat]
I distance myself from that side of the community. I collect ponies and play with their hair. The show isn't even secondary, it's tertiary. For me, it's styling, collecting, then the show. If it goes kaput, I won't bat an eye. I'll still be playin' with pony hair.
One of my friends muses that since I like hair and am bald, ponies are an outlet for me to play with some lovely locks. I'm not sure they're right, but I'm also not sure that they're wrong.
That last link. -_- Oh man. What it comes down to is that in every fandom you'll have idiots doing their best to shame everybody. And the people who are poluting it are always the loudest. Sometimes I get the urge to apologize to people that they had to deal with the jerkier members but sometimes I just feel angry. Someone carrying the "brony" name was talking about gross things in the toy aisle so suddenly *I* am a gross person? I am not responsible for their bad behavior.
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If the impossible became possible, I would want a normal Vinyl Scratch release in a set with Octavia XD
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I just read the second link on my phone.
OMG. That's SICK. I'm going to my first pony convention this summer. If I see behavior like that, I don't think I will be able to contain myself. I will want to mouth off and I am afraid I will get myself in trouble.
They sound EXACTLY like anime fans. How did this kind of stuff come the pony community?
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I just read the second link on my phone.
OMG. That's SICK. I'm going to my first pony convention this summer. If I see behavior like that, I don't think I will be able to contain myself. I will want to mouth off and I am afraid I will get myself in trouble.
They sound EXACTLY like anime fans. How did this kind of stuff come the pony community?
My guess is that it's just because the pony fandom got bigger. The more people, the more chance of their being rude people.
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One of my friends muses that since I like hair and am bald, ponies are an outlet for me to play with some lovely locks. I'm not sure they're right, but I'm also not sure that they're wrong.
Just had to say, this made me laugh. :lol:
I recall the Tumblr post you linked, too. I remember reading about it when it happened. There was also poor Yamino who was just crucified. Horrible slurs spammed all over her dA, tumblr, etc. I'm sure that fiasco can be searched on Google.
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I dislike the term brony. I know people say "We're not all like that!" and "Don't associate us with the bad ones!" but the term was originally *created* by the bad ones. The term 'brony' was created on some other distinctly unpleasant site, so...yeah.
[slight content edit - SDS]
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One of my friends muses that since I like hair and am bald, ponies are an outlet for me to play with some lovely locks. I'm not sure they're right, but I'm also not sure that they're wrong.
Just had to say, this made me laugh. :lol:
I recall the Tumblr post you linked, too. I remember reading about it when it happened. There was also poor Yamino who was just crucified. Horrible slurs spammed all over her dA, tumblr, etc. I'm sure that fiasco can be searched on Google.
The Yamino attack was one of the worst things I've seen come out of a fandom. She was speaking her mind very respectfully on a contentious issue and people called for actual violence against her. Because love and tolerance is what this show is about, right?
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This woman had the misfortune of being exposed to the worst of the 'brony' community; [link removed as per site rules ~ many thanks ~ hathorcat]
Add me to the list of those made who ran into one of those. This was one of the things that pushed me past the edge back in March and caused my breakdown after I voiced my dislike for the pony wedding and they came and barbecued me alive with their profanity and rudeness. I can't believe Hasbro would allow those people to use vulgar words on their Facebook page >.< .
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I dislike the term brony. I know people say "We're not all like that!" and "Don't associate us with the bad ones!" but the term was originally *created* by the bad ones. The term 'brony' was created on some othersite, so...yeah.
[slight content edit - SDS]
We're not all like that, though! ;)
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I know it must be hard for Hasbro to please everyone: collector's, kids, fans of FIM. I'm sure there's a way to do it. I miss pony shopping. The time I enjoyed pony shopping the most was during the G3 days, before the core 7. :bawl:
this post deserves an award :accomplished:
Hasbro's merch tactics have changed so much, their target will always be the children because that's what ponies were created for, however with the brony craze they have FINALLY aknowledged the collectors as an important sector of their market, perhaps not as we would've liked, but now more than ever collectors are an important group of people who buy ponies
we should not ignore the increase on older pony merch like all those posts of G1 tees and stuff, the sector who loves the older gens is also getting more attention than before
I believe that Hasbro is a little overwhelmed with the ridiculous sales they're making with the G4s, and to keep it going they want to follow the uber successfull doll line's model: "get Barbie and a couple friends re-released over and over, last year we sold doctors this year they can be vets!"
Also the release of the exact same poses and little innovation could be because of the growing fandom: bronies and children alike. Let's say a kid or future brony gets hooked with FIM, where will she/he find a cute simple character? Oh look, there's a normal version of Rarity in the store! I'll go buy her, she looks just like the one on the show. If they kept innovating every single line perhaps they would lose this, now that the toyline os centered around the show and not viceversa as it had been on its earlier years, they need to sell EXACTLY what the TV displays. That's just my logic though, there must be more and better reasons to sell the exact same pony over and over
I just hope they make more FS ponies, I'd love to see a white Celestia, Nightmare Moon, Trixie, Zecora, etc... or at least bigger ones, the only thing I can't really stand about G4s is the size
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The Yamino attack was one of the worst things I've seen come out of a fandom. She was speaking her mind very respectfully on a contentious issue and people called for actual violence against her. Because love and tolerance is what this show is about, right?
I was highly irritated with Yamino. One of the things that bothered me was the implication that those of us who didn't consider the pony in question offensive were uncaring jerks. But, how does it combat the idea that we are uncaring jerks when people talk of actually hurting her? Even if they are joking, it doesn't paint a nice picture.
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I think they're catering to Americans and Bronies.
They only release Target and Toys R Us exclusives to America. They apparently think that other countries won't buy them. Wut. But the show has become more or less for Bronies. So many puns in them now it isn't funny.
But on balance the rest of the world get exclusives which the US do not [Star Swirl, SkyWishes, Rainbow Flash] and often US exclusive lines do indeed make it elsewhere. Canada and the UK have now seen most of the Canterlot lines and in Australia you have got FS Shining Armour & Cadance whereas other countries have so far missed out on this set.
Oh! I didn't realize this. I asked my family just to get me that set for Christmas lol
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The Yamino attack was one of the worst things I've seen come out of a fandom. She was speaking her mind very respectfully on a contentious issue and people called for actual violence against her. Because love and tolerance is what this show is about, right?
I was highly irritated with Yamino. One of the things that bothered me was the implication that those of us who didn't consider the pony in question offensive were uncaring jerks. But, how does it combat the idea that we are uncaring jerks when people talk of actually hurting her? Even if they are joking, it doesn't paint a nice picture.
Yamino doesn't get much credit for her opinion when she writes about other offensive subjects, like pregnant nuns. She even made an ad in Homestuck style of her pregnant nun character falling down some stairs. Seems kind of hypocritical if you ask me.
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Yamino doesn't get much credit for her opinion when she writes about other offensive subjects, like pregnant nuns. She even made an ad in Homestuck style of her pregnant nun character falling down some stairs. Seems kind of hypocritical if you ask me.
People flooded her accounts telling her to commit suicide and called her every offensive English slur known to humanity. Her comments about That Pony were spot-on. It's pretty straightforward. In any case, nobody should ever be spammed with comments about hoping you get raped or that you kill yourself or transphobic slurs. It doesn't really matter what people think about her webcomic or not (I don't like it). She was nailed to the wall. Thousands of comments of the stuff I just mentioned. Literally thousands of people loving and tolerating her.
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Keep this on topic! And please remember we are a pg13 site.
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Er, I'd feel the same way. I don't find many people who like Japan for the country anymore, they always seem to be more interested in it because 'anime' :(
I love anime, but I love Japan for the culture, the movies, art, food, the landscape! That place is BEAUTIFUL.
Japanese traditions are awesome and I personally wish I could live there.
Sorry to kinda spin off into the off-topic area, but as a Japanese-American I just gotta say I agree wholeheartedly!! For years I just blindly hated anime without even watching it, just because of the way it shaped the perspectives of the people around me on my birth country. Of course, now I realize that's probably not much better at all, and I've actually found some that I really do like. But I still do feel a little annoyed when people assume my interest in Japan is from me being a crazy anime fan, rather than me being half Japanese. (it's not so terribly obvious when you look at me, only other asians have been able to see it before they were told.)
But back on topic, I do agree with everything that's been said, I don't think I can really contribute much...They're listening, but only to the loudest and most profitable of us, especially with all the Hot Topic merchandise and the blind bags coming out. I just wonder what they'll do once the FiM fad eventually dies out. Of course, they'll always have their target audience be little girls. But will they go back to throwing the long-term collectors a bone or two once in awhile? Right now, they're going with the fad and kind of ignoring the collectors and the alright relations they've had for years. Hopefully they'll return to that once the bandwagon's moved on.
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As long as they don't go back to a "core 7" theme - i'm happy.
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Thousands of comments of the stuff I just mentioned. Literally thousands of people loving and tolerating her.
Hah.
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I know it must be hard for Hasbro to please everyone: collector's, kids, fans of FIM. I'm sure there's a way to do it. I miss pony shopping. The time I enjoyed pony shopping the most was during the G3 days, before the core 7. :bawl:
this post deserves an award :accomplished:
Hasbro's merch tactics have changed so much, their target will always be the children because that's what ponies were created for, however with the brony craze they have FINALLY aknowledged the collectors as an important sector of their market, perhaps not as we would've liked, but now more than ever collectors are an important group of people who buy ponies
we should not ignore the increase on older pony merch like all those posts of G1 tees and stuff, the sector who loves the older gens is also getting more attention than before
I believe that Hasbro is a little overwhelmed with the ridiculous sales they're making with the G4s, and to keep it going they want to follow the uber successfull doll line's model: "get Barbie and a couple friends re-released over and over, last year we sold doctors this year they can be vets!"
Also the release of the exact same poses and little innovation could be because of the growing fandom: bronies and children alike. Let's say a kid or future brony gets hooked with FIM, where will she/he find a cute simple character? Oh look, there's a normal version of Rarity in the store! I'll go buy her, she looks just like the one on the show. If they kept innovating every single line perhaps they would lose this, now that the toyline os centered around the show and not viceversa as it had been on its earlier years, they need to sell EXACTLY what the TV displays. That's just my logic though, there must be more and better reasons to sell the exact same pony over and over
I just hope they make more FS ponies, I'd love to see a white Celestia, Nightmare Moon, Trixie, Zecora, etc... or at least bigger ones, the only thing I can't really stand about G4s is the size
Accepts award. :woot:
I agree, I am not too happy about ponies shrinking and being more than the price that G3's were. I have some G3's and mostly G1's and a couple G4's and I look at the size comparison of G3's to G4's and it's extremely dramatic. I don't know if Hasbro decided to shrink the ponies to save on molding material or for people who display their ponies (which is pretty much everyone) to have more room for more ponies.
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As long as they don't go back to a "core 7" theme - i'm happy.
Sadly, they pretty much already have. It's not 7 ponies but still. They keep rereleasing the same ponies: twilight sparkle, fluttershy, rainbow dash, apple jack, rarity in different ways. First, it was with pets, second with the large colorful wings, third the wedding, etc. I'm not sure on the order just trying to back up my statement.
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Sadly, they pretty much already have. It's not 7 ponies but still. They keep rereleasing the same ponies: twilight sparkle, fluttershy, rainbow dash, apple jack, rarity in different ways. First, it was with pets, second with the large colorful wings, third the wedding, etc. I'm not sure on the order just trying to back up my statement.
Core seven minus one!
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Er, I'd feel the same way. I don't find many people who like Japan for the country anymore, they always seem to be more interested in it because 'anime' :(
I love anime, but I love Japan for the culture, the movies, art, food, the landscape! That place is BEAUTIFUL.
Japanese traditions are awesome and I personally wish I could live there.
Sorry to kinda spin off into the off-topic area, but as a Japanese-American I just gotta say I agree wholeheartedly!! For years I just blindly hated anime without even watching it, just because of the way it shaped the perspectives of the people around me on my birth country. Of course, now I realize that's probably not much better at all, and I've actually found some that I really do like. But I still do feel a little annoyed when people assume my interest in Japan is from me being a crazy anime fan, rather than me being half Japanese. (it's not so terribly obvious when you look at me, only other asians have been able to see it before they were told.)
I agree with all of this. I started off being an Anime fan, but then I soon learned that Anime wasn't all Japan had to offer. I love the mythical creatures / yokai, I love the history, I love the culture etc. My religion is now Shinto, and I'm trying to learn the language. I want to try out Japanese food, but I haven't seen any Japanese resturants in Somerset yet. XD A japanese resturant opened in Wolverhampton AFTER I had moved away. XD
I'm even working on my own Manga series right now. ^^