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Title: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Loona on January 12, 2019, 12:12:08 PM: Calling G2 experts: I found this Baby Flitter last summer on a flea market (in South-Eastern Hungary, but knowing that flea market, chances of her coming from abroad - Germany, Romania or even the UK - are possible), and at first I had a little trouble identifying her because of her unusually-coloured tail. I first suspected the tail is a replacement, as it is rather thin, and its placement is also quite rough, but it seems to be firmly in place (I tugged on it, but did not manage to pull it out), its quality matches pony hair I know, and the way it curls also looks original. Do you have any thoughts on what might have happened to her? Maybe a factory mix-up?

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Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: hilamb on January 14, 2019, 12:08:09 AM: Oh, seems interesting. I hope our G2 peeps will see this.

I havent heard of that kind of Flitter before, maby it is an factory error? Really awsome find tough.
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Moonbreeze on January 14, 2019, 04:43:59 AM: Oh cool!

The tailhole looks a bit weird. Maybe she came without a tail and someone rerooted it?
Or, she's a factory error :)
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: The_Loner on January 14, 2019, 05:29:38 AM: That is so odd! My best guess is she's a factory error.
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Loona on January 14, 2019, 05:38:43 AM: Thanks for the replies!

I'm more and more leaning towards factory error too. I mean... The tail hole looks like it wasn't properly punched out. If it ever contained a proper tail, IMO it wouldn't look like this, not even if the tail was later removed. The hole should be bigger, it should retain its proper shape. And if someone rerooted the tail later, if they were knowledgeable enough to use what seems like official pony-quality hair, and even cut and style it at a regular tail length and curl, why would they do such a bad job at the amount of hair used, or with the punching of the hole? Maybe this little guy was the last on the line before the machine switched to produce another pony, and she accidentally got someone else's tail? But whose? I don't know of any G2 baby who has a tail in this colour...

ETA: G2s too often come without eye gems, but given the above, it also makes me wonder if this one ever had them, and they both fell out, or if they weren't added either.
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: maycrestmom on January 14, 2019, 06:39:37 AM: if the head is glued on I would say factory error is possible

ya found a cute G2 baby oddball :-)
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on January 14, 2019, 06:44:40 AM: Quote from: maycrestmom on January 14, 2019, 06:39:37 AM
if the head is glued on I would say factory error is possible

ya found a cute G2 baby oddball :-)

G2 heads turn! Adults do at least (aside from a select number of Magic Motion ones), I'm fairly certain babies do too, though I don't have any babies myself.
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Loona on January 14, 2019, 06:47:58 AM: Quote from: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on January 14, 2019, 06:44:40 AM
G2 heads turn! Adults do at least (aside from a select number of Magic Motion ones), I'm fairly certain babies do too, though I don't have any babies myself.
I have a few G2 babies, and I can confirm that their heads do turn - this one's also does :)
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Taffeta on January 14, 2019, 09:17:31 AM: Does the Christmas baby have that colour tail?
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Einhornbaby on January 14, 2019, 09:32:46 AM: cute find, her red tail looks nice!

@Taffeta : nope she has a green/red mix.
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Carrehz on January 14, 2019, 09:33:54 AM: Quote from: Taffeta on January 14, 2019, 09:17:31 AM
Does the Christmas baby have that colour tail?

Sweet Snowflake's tail is red/green mixed:
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I don't think this Flitter has a SS tail, even aside from the lack of green, it looks too bright red to be hers.
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Loona on January 14, 2019, 10:43:00 AM: I do not own the Christmas baby, but judging by the picture Carrehz has posted, she has a similar, richer, and a bit darker red in her tail (and mane) as the (also pictured) G1 Christmas pony, whom I do own. This Flitter's tail is lighter and brighter than that - it is very close to Monster High Venus' (old, pre-reboot kanekalon versions) uv pink, "almost red, but still pink" hair. I do not own, nor have I ever seen Sugarberry in real life, but based on pictures I always imagined her hair to be this colour, too.
(I am happy to take comparison pictures with Venus and the G1 Christmas pony, if that helps)
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Pony.Backpack on January 14, 2019, 11:03:34 AM: Maybe the tail is from baby Lily? I know her hair had some fading problems
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or Samba? but hers is a bit rich..
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Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on January 14, 2019, 12:24:00 PM: She reminds me of Baby Sweet Stuff
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Taffeta on January 14, 2019, 03:46:39 PM: Hrm, ok, I can never remember the colours, so guess that's out.

I would agree from the photo the colour looks more like Cherry Treats or Strawberry Fair/Sugarberry but that doesn't entirely help for G2 pony production. It is a weird issue because as the OP says, it doesn't look like a properly punched hole to begin with either. Very odd...
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: banditpony on January 14, 2019, 04:35:12 PM: Does her head open up for you to see what's actually inside? I feel like that would give more clues.
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Loona on January 15, 2019, 12:28:37 AM: I would be happy to inspect things from the inside, but I've never taken a G2 baby's head off before*, and without knowing how the connector piece looks like, and how it connects the head to the body, I'd be worried to break her neck :( Does anyone have tips/a picture/a tutorial that would help with the process?

*nor any pony's thats head is connected to the body with a separate connector piece. I know this one has a separate piece, because as the head turns, in some positions the head and the body do not fit perfectly, and a white plastic piece is visible through the hole between them.
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Moonbreeze on January 15, 2019, 04:55:18 AM: Quote from: Loona on January 15, 2019, 12:28:37 AM
I would be happy to inspect things from the inside, but I've never taken a G2 baby's head off before*, and without knowing how the connector piece looks like, and how it connects the head to the body, I'd be worried to break her neck :( Does anyone have tips/a picture/a tutorial that would help with the process?

*nor any pony's thats head is connected to the body with a separate connector piece. I know this one has a separate piece, because as the head turns, in some positions the head and the body do not fit perfectly, and a white plastic piece is visible through the hole between them.

Getting a G2 baby head off is an absolute pain. I always force it off with a screw driver (and have stabbed myself >_< ). Heat the pony first though, to soften the platic and make it easier.

As for the tail... it could be Sweet Snowflake's colour. That particular shade of red hasn't been used often and Sweet Snowflake is from the same year. So perhaps a chunk of her mane colour got mixed and ended up in this Little Flitter xD
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Vintageg2 on January 19, 2019, 02:53:08 AM: Very weird! Thinking factory error as well :)
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Loona on May 24, 2019, 12:33:37 AM: Update: while I never got around to behead the poor baby, I recently found another Baby Flitter, and now that I compared them, the new one definitely seems to have a bigger and more... proper-looking hole for her tail, so I'm more and more leaning towards the first first one being a factory error (or no tail, then reroot), as the hole just doesn't seem to be punched out properly. I'll try to take pics.
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Mlp Sunsparkle on May 24, 2019, 01:41:45 AM: Wow! She looks like a factory error, as you say with the tail hole being so oddly small! Could the hair be from tipsy tulips hair clip?
Sunsparkle x
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: freezestime on May 24, 2019, 02:15:49 AM: I'd say factory error.
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 24, 2019, 06:51:48 AM: Regardless of whether the tail is original I think she counts as a factory error because . . . what's up with that tail hole? :P

But I do think the tail is real pony hair, it has the right volume and bounce.

To me the red looks like the kind you would see on Cupcake, Moonshadow, Bubble, etc.

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Maybe they just grabbed a sprig from wherever and inserted it.
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Loona on June 01, 2019, 08:49:40 AM: Haha, probably :) I also believe the tail is real pony hair from the factory exactly because of its "bounce" and shape - but it is definitely not a full tail amount.

I finally got around to take pics of my two Secret Wishes' bums together (sorry, that sounded super weird :| ), here they are. Apologies, they turned out less sharp than they seemed on the smaller screen... seeing them both together now, I also started to wonder about the difference in the forelock colour... even if the regular one's forelock is cut, it is visibly more yellow in comparison, where the originally shown one's is more while - like Moonshadow's hair in the pic above.

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Miss Strangetail is also missing both of her eye gems (and has weird little needlepin holes in the center of the gem hole - I own several G2 adults with missing gems - no babies though, AFAIK - and I don't remember seeing such holes on any of them). Do G2 baby gems also fall out as easily as those of the adults? The other baby has both of her eye gems, and they seem to be better embedded than the adult ones, so I wonder if this one ever had hers...
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: LadyMoondancer on June 01, 2019, 10:29:26 AM: HUH, that hair does look more white than yellow!

The holes in the eyes look typical for gems that have fallen out. (It's also possible they were never there, but it's possible they fell out too.) Not sure if the babies' gems fall out more easily than the adults, I've had a mix of has-gems / no-gems with both babies and adults.

Here's a pic of my Baby Flitter, her forelock looks white too? I'll pull her out and see if that's accurate or if it was wonky lighting.

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Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Shaiyeh on June 01, 2019, 11:50:10 AM: I think the yellow forelock might be a tad discoloured - she's supposed to have a white forelock! Mine does, at least xD I'll have to dig her out of storage to be sure, but honestly I'm like 90% sure she's supposed to have a white forelock.
The eye gem holes looks typical to me too, but it's entirely possible she didn't have any gems in there to begin with :)
Title: Re: G2 experts, please help me with this Baby Flitter
Post by: Loona on June 02, 2019, 01:07:29 PM: Discoloration on the haircut baby is totally possible - I have to admit that I haven't yet cleaned her up, so her off-white forelock might just be dirty and hence darker.

Thank you for the info about the eye hole - then I think I'm just lucky with the G2 babies and their eye gems so far :)