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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 04, 2019, 04:33:08 PM
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When I'm sick, I forum crawl. I found a few mentions of ponies that we don't have any record of existing as MOC...quench my curiosity, who do we have no records of on card/in box? I'm expecting a lot of Nirvanas to be mentioned but I'm thinking more of the typical US/UK/Dutch releases rather than Argies for example...
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I hesitate to say don't exist, but not yet surfaced in the UK sense, as far as I know - Lightning, Thundercloud of the Mountain Boys. All the Twinkle Eyes from the UK release 1987 set except Tic Tac Toe (Locket-SkyRocket-Speedy-and the rereleases of Fizzy and Sweetie on the white card with the rainbow down the middle).
I have yet to see a MIB Megan and Sundance from 1987 wearing Country Jamboree (though her box has surfaced so she happened). Likewise Newborn Twins in UK boxes from 1988 (I have the back of one of the boxes but I've not seen any of the three sets UK MIB, someone else may have though.)
I've also never seen the silver star Milky Way on the UK card (but she existed because I had her as a kid.)
There are other UK release things that may or may not exist. I feel like over here things were sold till clearance a whole lot, meaning some stuff didn't necessarily make it. Esp for limited release sets like the Mountain Boys.
Some of the ones that do exist from the UK are in the single digits. Some are the only one known, so yeah.
I can't speak much for Europe but I feel like not that many Fable ponies exist on card.
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Speaking of regular releases in my country :
I have never seen in GERMAN boxes or on GERMAN cards
- Sugar Apple
- Moondancer
- Glory
- any Newborn Twins
will think about this a little more and then get back to it :)
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I didn't know a Country Jamboree Megan and Sundance box was found! I'd pretty much decided it was a myth!
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I didn't know a Country Jamboree Megan and Sundance box was found! I'd pretty much decided it was a myth!
Goddessofpeep has it. I've got a scan of it somewhere which she kindly sent me - perhaps she'll post it as I can't find the image right now in my files. It's here somewhere, but it's her treasure so she should share it xD.
It's in the insert and I think the Argos catalogue so I didn't think it was a myth, but you're not the first person who's said that as there's never been a boxed one come up online as far as I know.
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From what I understand, MOC Mimic is a rather famous "doesn't exist." Or has that status changed in the past couple years?
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From what I understand, MOC Mimic is a rather famous "doesn't exist." Or has that status changed in the past couple years?
I think there are at least five, maybe six known MOC in existence now? I may be wrong but I believe the first one surfaced at least ten years ago.
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One such (not my pony or my image)
The thing you're talking about is when some folk decided it would be funny to hype up Mimic and the idea of a MOC one as a mythical impossible entity back in the late 90s/early 2000s. So when one did turn up it was assumed to be the only one and went for a stupid price. And since then all MOC Mimics have sold for stupid prices.
She's actually more common MOC than some of the much cheaper MOC ponies from the UK or Europe for which only one or two examples are known to exist.
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Ah. OK, then. There's just a lot of hype about Mimic all the way around, isn't there?
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Ah. OK, then. There's just a lot of hype about Mimic all the way around, isn't there?
Too much. I came across a $10 Mimic once but that's the cheapest I've ever seen her. :wail:
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Ah. OK, then. There's just a lot of hype about Mimic all the way around, isn't there?
Too much. I came across a $10 Mimic once but that's the cheapest I've ever seen her. :wail:
Yeah, there is. But I think it's a bit of a false hype though. Wiki says she was short on production but I don't think we've actually proven that's the case. I've even found her here once, second hand, and she was never sold in the UK, so I don't think she's that rare, just popular and sought after. I've actually found more Mimics here than Fireflys or Powders (also not sold here) so yeah, draw your own conclusions about that. Mimic was also sold in Italy as well as in North America and who knows where else...and North America is the biggest MLP market, so there are going to be more Mimics than there are, probably, any of the Mountain Boys by comparison. It's just false hype made worse by the fact it's gone on so long. Even when I first came online in 97-8 she was already hyped...when it's been going on 20 years it's hard to break the cycle.
But yeah, back to MOC ponies that don't survive/haven't yet come to light.
I know they existed MOC once, because I know Chrissytree has a UK card for this set, but Watercolour Baby Sea Ponies on English language UK release card...never seen one on the card. I've also not seen a MIB Glittering Gem in the UK box. But I am sure one of those probably DOES exist, somewhere.
Oh yeah, I've never seen a MOC Buttons with the three large buttons symbol from the Movie Star set. There are so many of them here in the UK, where SS ponies weren't sold, that it's for sure they weren't all deflocks, but yeah, not ever seen one. I think this is because not that many Movie Star ponies MOC from the UK survive anyway, most that do come from Scandinavian excess stock.
Never seen the hearts only baby Heart Throb (Play and Care Set) MIB either.
I've not seen most of the set on the Pony Friends card, or any other Rainbow Pony than Flutterbye on the vertical English language European 2nd set rainbow card either.
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Agree on the fairy tale carded ponies. I think I have seen Skyflier, Snowflake, Firefly, and yellow Moondancer carded, not the others
Also the pony friends card are rare. I have seen Posey and Cupcake, maybe Cherries Jubilee, but not the others.
For the vertical carded 2nd set rainbows, I have seen Fluterbye, Confetti and Pinwheel. Funny thing, Moonstone where included in this set, instead of Starflower. I guess, one blue unicorn against another :P
How about the first set of rainbows on verrtical card. Have we seen all of them? I think I haven seen Skydancer?
I've also never seen the silver star Milky Way on the UK card (but she existed because I had her as a kid.)
I have a pic of UK carded silver star Milky way. I just dont know how to attach it without uplouading it anywhere
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Agree on the fairy tale carded ponies. I think I have seen Skyflier, Snowflake, Firefly, and yellow Moondancer carded, not the others
Also the pony friends card are rare. I have seen Posey and Cupcake, maybe Cherries Jubilee, but not the others.
For the vertical carded 2nd set rainbows, I have seen Fluterbye, Confetti and Pinwheel. Funny thing, Moonstone where included in this set, instead of Starflower. I guess, one blue unicorn against another :P
How about the first set of rainbows on verrtical card. Have we seen all of them? I think I haven seen Skydancer?
I've also never seen the silver star Milky Way on the UK card (but she existed because I had her as a kid.)
I have a pic of UK carded silver star Milky way. I just dont know how to attach it without uplouading it anywhere
I didn't know about Moonstone - even though I've added the backcard to my site! But yes! It's Moonstone. I'm going to have to edit the info :p
I've had photos donated of upright carded Starshine and Sunlight (thanks Taffeta ;))
I'm always looking for photo donations to add too :) Leikin - I might PM you :)
This is my site with a MOC section
https://mylittleponyaccessories.weebly.com/moc.html (https://mylittleponyaccessories.weebly.com/moc.html)
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I have never seen a moc Italy Moondancer. Only my most wanted pony ever :D
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Thank you all for feeding my curiosity! I had never heard of the fable ponies before. It'd be interesting if we get a warehouse find in the future that releases some of the never seens into the wild.
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Agree on the fairy tale carded ponies. I think I have seen Skyflier, Snowflake, Firefly, and yellow Moondancer carded, not the others
Also the pony friends card are rare. I have seen Posey and Cupcake, maybe Cherries Jubilee, but not the others.
For the vertical carded 2nd set rainbows, I have seen Fluterbye, Confetti and Pinwheel. Funny thing, Moonstone where included in this set, instead of Starflower. I guess, one blue unicorn against another :P
How about the first set of rainbows on verrtical card. Have we seen all of them? I think I haven seen Skydancer?
I've also never seen the silver star Milky Way on the UK card (but she existed because I had her as a kid.)
I have a pic of UK carded silver star Milky way. I just dont know how to attach it without uplouading it anywhere
So glad you came and posted here! I felt sure you'd have info I didn't on this! Also I would love to see the picture of MW with silver stars on card if you manage to figure out how to upload it. I haven't seen this since I was six years old, but am utterly fed up with people telling me she didn't exist, or it must have been a white star one (it wasn't, I still have her), or a white card (it wasn't, I remember it being pink) or it never happened. xD.
When you say the first set of rainbows MOC which do you mean? The vertical UK cards or something else? I thought you had some of these but maybe I was wrong - or you mean a different set? I have seen all of the UK vertical carded first set release but I only have Sunlight. I want Windy :/ If a different set, no clue.
With the Flutterbye set thingy, in the Spanish/NC releases (Spanish/French cards) there are both the set with Moonstone instead of Starflower and then the ones with...no Flutterbye, but Starflower and I think maybe it's Parasol as the extra? I'd have to check my files. But I have not seen an English language version of the Starflower included card, even though it would make sense for there to be one. I am not surprised you've seen more of them since I have a suspicion you guys probably had them over there at our expense, like the Fables (growl xD)
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With the Flutterbye set thingy, in the Spanish/NC releases (Spanish/French cards) there are both the set with Moonstone instead of Starflower and then the ones with...no Flutterbye, but Starflower and I think maybe it's Parasol as the extra? I'd have to check my files.
Not sure about the French cards if the set were the same as Spain. The Rainbow ponies sold first in Spain were Trickles, Tickle, Confetti, Pinwheel, Starflower and Parasol. 2 years later the set was again sold but with Moonstone instead of Starflower and Blutterbye instead of Tickle. The funny thing is that the commercial aired here was abour the 1st wave, so only 2 of them were really available :lol:
There are quite some Spanish ponies or in Spanish box I don't have record a MOC/MOB has appeared yet. But there is an entire set/collection never seen a single one yet: the Windy Wings Ponies. Pretty sure the boxes are the same as UK. Ponies like the Birthday one and Princess Sparkle are a mystery too.
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I have Molinillo from the first Spanish set and Rocio from the second. This whole discussion is complicated and looking back at my previous post I think I made it more so, so I thought this time I'll do it with pictures xD.
Molinillo's card has Starflower, Parasol, Confetti, Pinwheel, Trickles and Tickle on it.
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I know that one was also used for the Italian rainbows, I have a 2nd release Italian parasol semi on card with that same card art somewhere in my boxes.
Rocio's card has Tickle, Flutterbye, Moonstone, Confetti, Pinwheel, Trickles
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And is the same as the French cards (I am pretty sure, NC ponies) and also the English language rainbow cards Leikin and I were mentioning above.
So what I am not sure of is if there ever existed an English language version of the first one, as so few examples of the second survive it's not easy to know one way or another.
Also 1986 was a bit crazy.
For the record the two cards above are dated 1986 and 1988 I believe.
The second set definitely had both Flutterbye and Tickle, but lost Starflower...Moonstone instead of Parasol.
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I’ve had a look in my archives and I cannot find pictures of the ponies people have mentioned :(
And what do you know Taffeta, it’s “that” year!!!
Love pkw xxx
Post Merge: October 10, 2019, 08:47:22 AM
Agree on the fairy tale carded ponies. I think I have seen Skyflier, Snowflake, Firefly, and yellow Moondancer carded, not the others
Also the pony friends card are rare. I have seen Posey and Cupcake, maybe Cherries Jubilee, but not the others.
For the vertical carded 2nd set rainbows, I have seen Fluterbye, Confetti and Pinwheel. Funny thing, Moonstone where included in this set, instead of Starflower. I guess, one blue unicorn against another :P
How about the first set of rainbows on verrtical card. Have we seen all of them? I think I haven seen Skydancer?
I've also never seen the silver star Milky Way on the UK card (but she existed because I had her as a kid.)
I have a pic of UK carded silver star Milky way. I just dont know how to attach it without uplouading it anywhere
I think this might be helpful?
http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,371938.0.html
And this
http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,290686.msg112129.html#msg112129
Love pkw xxx
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Does anybody know if there are any MIP mexican collector's pose ponies?
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All of the US line (excluding freak variants) has been documented MOC, I believe.
As far as nirvanas go, we still haven’t haven’t seen any from South Africa, India, or Columbia, have we? I know the backcards for the South African ponies do exist, so they existed MOC at some point, but I’m pretty sure we’re still in the dark on the other two.
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All of the US line (excluding freak variants) has been documented MOC, I believe.
As far as nirvanas go, we still haven’t haven’t seen any from South Africa, India, or Columbia, have we? I know the backcards for the South African ponies do exist, so they existed MOC at some point, but I’m pretty sure we’re still in the dark on the other two.
I can't think of a MIP pony from the US that hasn't come up MOC at least once. Most of them more than once. US MOCs are considerably more common than other places because of the size of the market, though, so it makes sense that way. Some obv. survive MOC more than others. I'm eternally grateful to how common TAF ponies are MOC on the US card, because for that reason I got my UK carded Strawberry Fair/Sugarberry (which is much harder to find!) for a snip. A lot of people only care about the pony not which card they are on. But although the TAF US first set are so common MOC, I am not sure how many of the UK equivalents survive. I've seen some in French and German, but (aside the Milky Way Leikin mentioned and the white star one which I have seen on UK card), I think I've only seen Strawberry Fair/Sugarberry, and Up Up & Away on the English language version of the European card.
The Spanish TAFs have the same artwork in Spanish and I have Lollipop/Sweet Tooth on German card in that style, but I don't remember seeing her ever in English, or Dancing Butterflies, or Love Melody...
Though I didn't double check the loan images on my page before making this post.