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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: Kaeldre on November 10, 2012, 01:25:35 PM
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So a friend of mine and I went out and about today. Like always, we stopped into Hot Topic in the mall to check out the t-shirts and pony stuff. Usually the pony kiosk there is full of nothing but t-shirts and hoodies, but today we found:
Rainbow Dash vinyl figures
Overpriced surprise bags
Doctor Whooves belt
3- pack of ankle socks socks (that, I kid you not, were officially licensed and had the word "brony" on them)
Rainbow Dash lounge trousers
3-pack of women's cotton briefs (officially licensed)
"Brony" wallet
"Brony" wristband
Rainbow Dash toe socks (again, officially licensed)
And, of course, a metric crap-tonne of WeLoveFine tees.
I don't mind that Hasbro is cashing in on its adult fanbase, but why does everything have to scream "brony"? I almost bought the pack of ankle socks until I saw that a pair said "brony". I made it out of there with just the vinyl figure.
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At my local HT, they had a 5 pack of anklet socks, and only one pair said Bronies on it. I was quite pleased. :3
I really wish there were more variety with the wrist bands, however. I'd dig a Ditzy Doo one.
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I got the socks and a Rainbow Dash figure today. I don't refer to myself as a brony, but it was one pair out of 5, so I don't really care. Also, my Hot Topic was having a 25% off everything sale, and the free papercraft for a pony purchase of $25 or more.
The had one :muffin: Pony figure left, but the box was smashed, so I didn't get it. I'll have to check back again.
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I don't mind that Hasbro is cashing in on its adult fanbase, but why does everything have to scream "brony"?
ehh. It's a case of marketers thinking the straight white male's dollar is worth just a bit more than everyone else's. Regardless of how many of those terms actually apply to someone in the fanbase. But it's a very sought after demographic.
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I agree that it does bother me. I don't consider myself a part of the "brony" fandom not only because I don't associate myself with all the negative aspects of their community, but also because I'm a huge fan of all gens and grew up on the 80's ponies. But it gets annoying as the other adults in my family who support my pony habit don't really get it, and seeing all these crazy things with brony on it have them assuming I call myself a brony, which...just...ugh. No. I don't. But if I try to argue then I look even more like a dork so I just have to shut up and deal with it. I do like this Rainbow Dash lounge pants though.
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It's kind of cool that they're acknowledging the fan-base directly by putting "brony" on things, but yeah, not all fans are bronies either, so it's a little frustrating. But that's where the money is...
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I think Elisto is right. Personally...its nice to get some adult merch but I wouldn't complain if there could be a little more geared towards women, lighter, more [sorry for using the world :P but yes] feminine colours [I think I am just bored with everything seeming to be on dark backgrounds but that's a personal thing nothing else] and even less of the generic branding of everything under the same banner.
Unfortunately marketeers have clearly found a market that is making them money and thats the path merchandise in general in G4 seems to be heading down.
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This is a reminder to keep this on topic, and not to bash or name call. The first sign of any bashing, name calling or anything of the sorts will get this thread locked. Thanks!
I agree that Hasbro is doing it to make money, as any profit driven company would. I think the word brony is going to be around a while, and so will brony merchandise as it does seem to be all the hype at the moment.
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Pony socks?
GIVEMEGIVEMEGIVEME!!!
I saw on another website Hot Topic :muffin: Pony socks with the word "muffins" on them. I want those so bad, too.
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I am deeply troubled by MLP underwear. That just is so, so wrong.
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I am deeply troubled by MLP underwear. That just is so, so wrong.
I feel the same. :(
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I actually met a pony fan at HT today! :) I saw the pony display on my way by and literally ran toward it squealing, "PONIES!!!" There was a girl there also looking at the display and debating what to buy. Of course, we got to talking. She was excited about season 3 starting soon. :P I was just excited to see pony merchandise! (And getting a chance to talk to someone else who 'gets it.') The closest Hot Topic is a three hour drive for me, so I didn't even know about it! It was an awesome surprise for me! :biggrin:
BTW, I didn't see any undies or lounge pants. Lounge pants would have been very cool and I totally would have bought them, but I'm with you girls... the undies just seem.... wrong! :P
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I am deeply troubled by MLP underwear. That just is so, so wrong.
I feel the same. :(
They don't have it on their site, but one pair had Fluttershy (I think she was saying "Yay"; I don't remember), one had Ditzy Doo saying "Muffins", and one just had Rainbow's symbol on it.
Post Merge: November 10, 2012, 05:31:46 PM
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BTW, I didn't see any undies or lounge pants. Lounge pants would have been very cool and I totally would have bought them, but I'm with you girls... the undies just seem.... wrong! :P
The lounge pants are awesome~ They're black and have Rainbow Dash on them. I may have put them on my Christmas list. ^^'
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http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/PopCulture/MyLittlePony//My+Little+Pony+Rainbow+Dash+Lounge+Pants-170672.jsp Pants!
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I dare not to step even one foot in hot topic... never have and never will. Not worried about missing any pony stuff there xD
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LOL I guess I did not know there is negative stuff linked to bronies , I call myself one but I'm neither white or young ,I do not collect plushies or blind bags or merch with Brony on it .
I love the MLP FIM show and the toys ,but I do like the other Generations and their shows as well :)
I'm a fan and a collector ,is how i see myself :)
do i need to change my screen name?
JK!
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I am deeply troubled by MLP underwear. That just is so, so wrong.
I feel the same. :(
Ugh, same here.
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Why is My Little Pony underwear wrong?
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LOL I guess I did not know there is negative stuff linked to bronies , I call myself one but I'm neither white or young ,I do not collect plushies or blind bags or merch with Brony on it .
I love the MLP FIM show and the toys ,but I do like the other Generations and their shows as well :)
I'm a fan and a collector ,is how i see myself :)
do i need to change my screen name?
JK!
Nah, you're pretty cool. Don't worry :)
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I don't see anything wrong with underwear. It's no different than Hello Kitty.. *shrug*
I do however get peeved when they slap brony on everything. I am not a brony.. that is an entire different fan base. I am simply a collector of MLP. I wish there was more merch for adults that wasn't based around FiM and bronies. I want some G3 and G2 shirts and accessories. ^.^
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I wish we had a HT in my country.
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Why is My Little Pony underwear wrong?
It's ok for the target demographic (like Karrie said, it's just like hello kitty and other cute things) but I have seen some rather nasty comments from some bronies regarding "pony underwear." :(
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It gets out of control, sometimes.
Ugh, I know not all of them are like that, but, even when they joke about it, it makes me depressed...
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Oh. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Yes, I can understand. Even during G3 I was sad they didn't make pony undies! I mean, you could get Wonder Woman or Superman or any other character it seemed.
But nevermind..now I get it.
I also am very disillusioned over the "Brony" merchandising.
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I feel the same way as you - I'm thrilled about all the new merch, but it's pretty one-note. Brony this, Brony that; I don't need to be head-to-toe Brony, Hot Topic!! :P I can wear pants with something OTHER than Brony or Rainbow Dash on it!!! And don't get me started on that "20% cooler in 10 seconds flat" nonsense...
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I'm excited for the LUNA IS BEST PRINCESS shirt on Hot Topic site though..
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I don't mind that Hasbro is cashing in on its adult fanbase, but why does everything have to scream "brony"?
ehh. It's a case of marketers thinking the straight white male's dollar is worth just a bit more than everyone else's. Regardless of how many of those terms actually apply to someone in the fanbase. But it's a very sought after demographic.
You are perfect. There is too much truth in this statement and it makes me really sad. I too wish they would have more merch that didn't scream "BRONY!!!!!!!!1!" right in your ear.
Thank you for letting me know that your male customer base is more important than your female one, even though collectors have largely been female in MLP history. Thanks Hasbro.
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Why is My Little Pony underwear wrong?
Yeah, I gotta agree. I mean, little kids have their cute MLP undies. I'd LOVE to have a pair of MLP undies for mahself!
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Ah, I just read an above comment about comments regarding the underwear, and I can understand the hesitation. Still...it ain't stopping me from going to HT tomorrow to pick me up a pair of awesome pony undies!
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If you don't want socks that say brony on them, there are "mix-and-match" FiM ones at Spencers. I bought 2 sets to have a matching pair of each one. There was Princess Celestia, Princess Luna, Applejack, Twilight Sparkle, Rarity, Pinkie Pie, Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash, Scootaloo and Applebloom in the set. The lounge pants are awesome! I bought them locally a few weeks back. The only thing I wasn't too fond of was the fact that they are "men's" style with the slot in the front lol. It just really proves that they don't really see women as a major marketing segment. I have to agree that they don't need to put brony on everything. It's ok on some stuff, obviously for the bronies but a little more for the rest of us. I am really just excited that there is adult merchandise.
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Might have to go check these out. I need some more fun socks.
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Why is My Little Pony underwear wrong?
Yeah, I gotta agree. I mean, little kids have their cute MLP undies. I'd LOVE to have a pair of MLP undies for mahself!
*ETA*
Ah, I just read an above comment about comments regarding the underwear, and I can understand the hesitation. Still...it ain't stopping me from going to HT tomorrow to pick me up a pair of awesome pony undies!
Same here. I know there's a lot of bad brony talk out there about those undies, but I'll still be getting them. I gotta have anything and everything that has Ditzy Doo on it. xD
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Where can you get the undies and what sizes do they have? I mean where can you find them in the store because they're not on the Hot Topic.com
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. The only thing I wasn't too fond of was the fact that they are "men's" style with the slot in the front lol.
Wait...wait, what? Are you serious?? Okay, now I'm annoyed. Is that seriously necessary? Men wear pajama pants that are sewn just like normal pants ( my mom sometimes buys them for my sister), so WHY would they make these pants, with freaking ponies on them, so gender inclusive? I know it's easy to just sew it up, but seriously, I've passed up on other pants and boxers I've liked more because I don't want to wear mens underwear, and now I'm seriously ticked these pants are made so clearly for men and not unisex.
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I do like all the black colored stuff, though. I so want those pants. I LOVE lounge-y pants :silly:
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. The only thing I wasn't too fond of was the fact that they are "men's" style with the slot in the front lol.
Wait...wait, what? Are you serious?? Okay, now I'm annoyed. Is that seriously necessary? Men wear pajama pants that are sewn just like normal pants ( my mom sometimes buys them for my sister), so WHY would they make these pants, with freaking ponies on them, so gender inclusive? I know it's easy to just sew it up, but seriously, I've passed up on other pants and boxers I've liked more because I don't want to wear mens underwear, and now I'm seriously ticked these pants are made so clearly for men and not unisex.
Yeah, that was what I thought when I put them on. They are cute otherwise and comfy.
On another note, is it bad that I have been into Hot Topic so much in the last few weeks that 3 of their main workers recognize me before I even get into the store and automatically tell me what new pony stuff they have gotten in lol? I even got the gala cutouts for free without a purchase since I had purchased so much stuff the previous weeks.
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Once of the guy cashiers at my Hot Topic is one of those middle guys. He's a fan of the new stuff but he helps his sister collect and is into all sorts of stuff like Transformers and Doctor Who. Great conversations with that guy.
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Am I the only one who doesn't give two flying hoots about the "slot" in the front. Guy pants feel exactly the same as girls. It's more making it unisex than anything
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I'm also disappointed in everything that has to say "brony" all over. I mean, isn't wearing something with a pony on it enough to proclaim that you like FiM? I don't need or want my MLP things to say "collector" or "MLP fan" on them...
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Am I the only one who doesn't give two flying hoots about the "slot" in the front. Guy pants feel exactly the same as girls. It's more making it unisex than anything
It just pisses me off because its an item that can so easily be totally unisex, yet the design they chose is very clearly for men. Wallets and wristbands, sure they say brony, but both men and women are intended to use them. But pants with those designs are very obviously for MEN and not meant to be unisex, and it just makes me very uncomfortable wearing pants/boxers that are meant for men. Shirts are no problem because they are still essentially unisex, just with a different cut, but pants like that are sewn that way for a specific reason and obviously not meant to be worn by women. If they made the same same pants for women, and kept the men pants as they are fine, but I'm just really ticked off that the one item I find that DOESN'T say brony on it is still so very clearly made for men. I've found more clothing made for adult women in the Ninja Turtles fandom (which is obviously geared toward males) than I have for freaking ponies, and I think that's just pretty ridiculous.
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Meh, I'd wear them anyway. They can't be that different.
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Meh, I'd wear them anyway. They can't be that different.
They're not really, it just makes me uncomfortable to wear them as a personal preference. I mostly think it's stupid since not all mens' pajama pants have that extra flap in the first place, they can wear "normal" pants, so I don't know why they just didn't go with something more unisex.
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And that's a ok! ^.^
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Meh, I wear boxers sometimes they were clearly made for men. I don't really care since I only wear them around the house.
I don't really consider myself a Brony since it's a community driven term, and Bronies like MLP for different reasons than most of us collectors here do. It's nice they are getting their own merch, but I do think we--as collectors--are getting the short end of the stick right now though because of the lack of variety in brushable ponies that makes us pony collectors in the first place.
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I'm sure there was women's underwear with the G1 art on it a couple of years back in Primark. Why I did not buy that I don't know. *shakes head* So there has been MLP underwear for girls as well as boys.
I just looked at those 'lounge pants' (disturbing term, what does that even mean?!) and I don't really like them. I'm disappointed because I love RD, but they're just a bit odd. Like the toe socks though!
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I know exactly how you feel. I'm all for MLP having an extended fan base and I'm happy that lots of them are guys but when I go to places like Hot Topic and get excited to see pony stuff it's all brony fan based. They have retro rainbow brite and retro stuff to appeal to the 80's kids but why can't they do more retro my little pony?
Post Merge: November 11, 2012, 03:30:46 PM
On an added note: I was watching the DVD about MLP collecting that we saw at the fair in RI last year and Hasbro had said they considered collectors in mind by making the art ponies, comic con ponies, etc. OK so what are they doing for collectors now? It seems MLP now is child-based and brony-based. I look in pony aisles at stores and always end up leaving empty handed. I'm just always disappointed and more and more I miss G1's and early G3's. :cry:
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Those are some cute socks!!!!
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Interestingly enough, merchandise was more woman-oriented when this show started out, but men complained that there weren't enough things for them. I hope they make more non-brony, and gender-neutral/female-oriented things. I don't think men will complain now because they have plenty.
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I seriously, seriously dislike Hot Topic. Why? Over priced crap quality merchandise. The "oh so edgy" store is laughable at best. It's a goth/punk kids' Abercombie and Fitch. :huh: Sorry, you any of you adore this place, but I make sure I stay the heck away from this store.
$4.99 Blind Bag figures? :mad: Seriously?
My sister shops at HT because they mark stuff down ridiculously so often. I have a collection of Invader Zim/Gir stuff she got for 80% off! lol
I'd rather get my pony stuff online or from Ebay or even here and the Trading Post.
The fact that these $14.99 MLP figures are being scalped on EBay and here at almost four times the retail value really irks me. People do what they want, yadda, yadda, yadda...
/Rant/
Anyway, I'll stick to hanging out with you here on the Arena. This place and the Trading Post are probably the only multi generation MLP forums that I know and I love sharing MLP with people who are not just "fair weather fans" and are fans because it's the "it" thing right now.
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I think there are a decent number of gender-neutral or female merch items. I'm female, and I have the following merch items (all from HT), none of which mention bronies:
- Wonderbolts Hoodie
- Luna T shirt
- sunglasses
- 2 RD T shirts
- Pinkie Pie T shirt
- Full Cast T shirt
My sister got a belt today in HT today, too, again, brony-free. Just being there today I saw many t shirts that didn't have "brony" plastered all over them, as well as belts and sweatshirts. I AM getting a bit tired of seeing "brony" all over everything, but it doesn't bother me all that much. The socks were a pack of 5, and only one of them had that on it. I think it's awesome to see more adult-oriented merch, regardless of what gender it's being marketed towards.
And girls have had control of the franchise for years. Why not let the guys have some fun? ;)
And the prices are crazy there because it's licensed. HT doens't own MLP, so they have to pay fees to Hasbro. Most of there stuff isn't really their brand either. For example, most of the pony shirts come from welovefine. So they hike up prices because they need to make a profit.
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The "oh so edgy" store is laughable at best. It's a goth/punk kids' Abercombie and Fitch.
I would barely call it a goth store. >_< There's way more normal stuff there that any sorta punk stuff.
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Let me state my case:
My biggest issue with MLP underwear for grown-ups is simply trying to turn something innocent into a sexual item. I'm sorry, but wearing undies with Fluttershy on them over the age of puberty just seems so creepy and perverted to me. You know it's only a matter of time before sexy pictures of women wearing MLP 'lingerie' pop up. To me, that crosses a line; taking a symbol of girlhood innocence and morphing into something construed as sexual diminishes the FiM line in my eyes.
I'm sure there are those out there who think its 'cute' and 'cool', but I am not one of them.
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As far as the pricing at Hot Topic outside of the blind bag figures I don't feel their pricing is bad at all. Most of their shirts are $20 or under and a lot of these same styles are ones that welovefine has on their website for $25 and you don't have to wait 2 weeks for them to ship. On top of that they are always offering Buy One Get One 1/2 off or 25% off or something. I got my Luna, Octavia and Lyra shirts for $15 EA and my Join the Herd hoodie for $38 during their sales. I really want to pick up that Wonderbolts hoodie at some point to.
I have shopped at Hot Topic for years mostly for t-shirts and hoodies, as that makes up about 90% of my wardrobe.
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I'll just state this as someone who just bought a set... Maybe some might see it as that, but there are lots of people who don't see it like that. As I said before, the little girls have their MLP undies. I missed having fun cartoon undies like I did when I was a kid, so this is a bit of nostalgia for me. Just putting in my own 2 cents :) I know a few people who also want these for the nostalgia factor.
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I know this sounds kinda weird, but I would wear em :blush: I've always thought it was so funny that most underwear nowadays have awesome images on them :rofl:
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I'm gonna weigh in about the MLP underwear thing. I'm pre-op FTM, so women's clothes still fits my figure best and I know, at least, underwear isn't a sex thing for me. It's a 'well, good, no chafing' thing. I'd kill for some good Wonder Woman or Superman undies, and I don't see MLP underwear being much different.
It's just fun clothes, you know? Some people are creepers, but that doesn't mean the clothing itself is bad. I mean, I know my *existence* is someone's fetish, but that doesn't mean that I'm the bad sort of sexual myself.
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I'm gonna weigh in about the MLP underwear thing. I'm pre-op FTM, so women's clothes still fits my figure best and I know, at least, underwear isn't a sex thing for me. It's a 'well, good, no chafing' thing. I'd kill for some good Wonder Woman or Superman undies, and I don't see MLP underwear being much different.
It's just fun clothes, you know? Some people are creepers, but that doesn't mean the clothing itself is bad. I mean, I know my *existence* is someone's fetish, but that doesn't mean that I'm the bad sort of sexual myself.
They have some really nice looking Wonder Woman underwear at Target....
I don't like going into Hottopic. I always feel really claustrophobic for some reason. It just seems like they cram way to much stuff into that store and you can't move around. I hate it when there's a bunch of people because it just makes things impossible. I must have missed the mlp undies I'm really curious.
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They have some really nice looking Wonder Woman underwear at Target....
ONE DAY I got things in the way right now, but one day I'll have lucky superhero undies.
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I have also shopped at Hot Topic for quite a few years (since 2000?). I liked it in high school and junior high because it did have so much for 80s children. They had more Disney, Strawberry Shortcake, Rainbow Brite, Care Bears and My Little Pony stuff back then. They did have retro MLP stuff in the early 2000s like bobbleheads, air fresheners and other items. I think I had a few pony buttons from there in high school. They do kind cater to the punk/rock/goth crowd but that is part of their target group. It did use to have more nostalgic stuff than now though but I think that just has to do with the current teen-early 20s crowd that may not know much about them.
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I saw the underwear when I was looking for vinyls and thought,"If I had a gf I'd get those for...nah, too creepy.".
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Of course Hot Topic is edgy. My Little Pony is extremely edgy and hardcore! Pink ponies man.
I'm a bit worried about the line someone posted, that this fandom should go towards men. Are we forgetting that most entertainment out there is aimed at men? Nobody is saying that men shouldn't have My Little Pony things, but it just seems unfair to ignore women who have stayed faithful to the franchise since childhood.
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Meh, I'd wear them anyway. They can't be that different.
They're not really, it just makes me uncomfortable to wear them as a personal preference. I mostly think it's stupid since not all mens' pajama pants have that extra flap in the first place, they can wear "normal" pants, so I don't know why they just didn't go with something more unisex.
that is so true ,none of my PJ's have that :biggrin:
Post Merge: November 11, 2012, 10:45:48 PM
Of course Hot Topic is edgy. My Little Pony is extremely edgy and hardcore! Pink ponies man.
I'm a bit worried about the line someone posted, that this fandom should go towards men. Are we forgetting that most entertainment out there is aimed at men? Nobody is saying that men shouldn't have My Little Pony things, but it just seems unfair to ignore women who have stayed faithful to the franchise since childhood.
I agree , and it is a very complex ,the gender barrier goes both ways, is it so hard for the companies to just get rid of it?? I mean my 7 yo nephew wanted ponies, Her Mom was very uncomfortable saying no to him and with no explanation to him as to why he could not have them ,I knew it was because the ponies to her are for girls and they are dolls in a sense , Then the Funko line came out and she was more welcoming to them for the boy, he goes to sleep with his Rainbow Dash now :) .
But what if the Funko had never come out ?? So I guess the "brony" label on these other merchandise and the slot on the PJ ,and even the Vinyl ponies are just a clear green light for guys to go for them.
and a reassurance that is for an item for males .
Post Merge: November 11, 2012, 10:47:25 PM
I saw the underwear when I was looking for vinyls and thought,"If I had a gf I'd get those for...nah, too creepy.".
LOL ! :biggrin:
Post Merge: November 11, 2012, 10:54:12 PM
Let me state my case:
My biggest issue with MLP underwear for grown-ups is simply trying to turn something innocent into a sexual item. I'm sorry, but wearing undies with Fluttershy on them over the age of puberty just seems so creepy and perverted to me. You know it's only a matter of time before sexy pictures of women wearing MLP 'lingerie' pop up. To me, that crosses a line; taking a symbol of girlhood innocence and morphing into something construed as sexual diminishes the FiM line in my eyes.
I'm sure there are those out there who think its 'cute' and 'cool', but I am not one of them.
I think that already happened on halloween, there were some sexy costumes of rarity and pinkie pie, someone on here had a thread on them,cause she had 2 options to go for, they were also adds of those costumes on the Equestria site :)
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Of course Hot Topic is edgy. My Little Pony is extremely edgy and hardcore! Pink ponies man.
I'm a bit worried about the line someone posted, that this fandom should go towards men. Are we forgetting that most entertainment out there is aimed at men? Nobody is saying that men shouldn't have My Little Pony things, but it just seems unfair to ignore women who have stayed faithful to the franchise since childhood.
I wasn't saying that the fandom should go entirely to men. Sure, there's a lot of "men's" entertainment out there, but it's much more acceptable for a girl to like boy things than it is for a boy to like girl things. So if the one little display booth in HT has mostly men's merch (even though it's pretty even), I don't see it as that horrible. I wasn't saying they should own the fandom, I just meant that women should be a bit more willing to share.
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I'm Australian. We don't have Hot Topic here. I'm glad we don't! I'd be too tempted to buy everything. I wouldn't buy the 'brony' stuff though.
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In my younger days, I hated Hottopic for repackaging and marking up the " punk" style that I held so dear. I was a thrift store shopper, finding my own look then later finding similar styles on their shelves for a small fortune.
Nowadays, I'm over it, though they're still up to their old tricks. ;) They seem to repackage artifacts of the anime convention crowd, this time!
But hey. Cool vinyl ponies. I'm game.
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I actually love the "brony" label on a lot of the new items. It definitely makes me proud of the fanbase. I overspent a bit last time I was in Hot Topic on pony stuff, but I don't regret it! Yeah, a lot of people have gripes about both bronies and the Hot Topic brand, and they're entitled. Me, I'm just enjoying the sweet sweet swag. Especially the vinyl :muffin: Pony and the socks. Well played, Hasbro.
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I don't like the brony label at all. It's like they are alienating female collectors and fans.....kinda like I heard they do on the internet. :/
I love G4 merchandise though. I just don't like going in Hot Topic. I feel out of place there.
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I don't like the brony label at all. It's like they are alienating female collectors and fans.....kinda like I heard they do on the internet. :/
I love G4 merchandise though. I just don't like going in Hot Topic. I feel out of place there.
Yeah I feel that it's alienating too.. I mean there is the title "Pegasister" But you NEVER see Pegasister socks or merchandise!
I see more grown men nowadays (that should really be into Hot wheels or something) playing with what is supposed to be for girls, pony dolls. I mean I get the satisfaction out of it but I am a woman, and I'm not bashing fellow bronies. It's just overwhelming, that's all! Not to mention different.. If they do it for collecting that's fine to me!
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I've never heard of Hot Topic. I've heard the figures are bad quality though. But I agree, everything screams BRONY these days.
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I don't like the brony label at all. It's like they are alienating female collectors and fans.....kinda like I heard they do on the internet. :/
I love G4 merchandise though. I just don't like going in Hot Topic. I feel out of place there.
Yeah I feel that it's alienating too.. I mean there is the title "Pegasister" But you NEVER see Pegasister socks or merchandise!
I see more grown men nowadays (that should really be into Hot wheels or something) playing with what is supposed to be for girls, pony dolls. I mean I get the satisfaction out of it but I am a woman, and I'm not bashing fellow bronies. It's just overwhelming, that's all! Not to mention different.. If they do it for collecting that's fine to me!
I don't know... I like the term "brony" as an all inclusive term, and I think that's how many see it. I know the word itself denotes masculine tones, but I actually prefer one title for the whole group. I've said it before, but I happily call myself a brony.
Hoo boy, I hope this stays peaceful... I've got my eyeroll moments with my fellow bronies now and then, but I freaking love the fandom in general. A good show is a good show, and I really see nothing in FiM that screams "for girls" unless one subscribes to traditional gender roles, which in itself is rather alienating to one who grew up playing with both Barbies and Ninja Turtles. ;)
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I really love the show too, especially the fandom. Just the term Brony is a little bit of a throw off to me! Why can't they just be called "My Little Pony fans" or something hehe :o
I think people do have a right to their opinion as long as they keep it clean so we shall keep this clean!
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I don't think a lot of people understand why brony is such a bad term, and bronies in general is a bad thing.
There's been mainly female collectors (and children playing with the toys of course) for a very long time in ponydom. There were scant few males.
Hasbro threw us a bone once and a while--the 25th anniversary sets (even though they were pretty flawed, they were appreciated) the "art" ponies, etc.
But now, the male dominated fanbase, which isn't even all that big mind you, gets an entire clothing line? Wallets? Belts? Plush? Backpacks? Socks? Show characters they want either in BB or brushable form? Vinyl collector editions? A comic book?
This surely didn't happen with a female fanbase.
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The My Little Pony franchise has seen a huge boost in marketability with G4. Licensing for the MLP brand is being sold by Hasbro like never before, and these third-party producers have found that the "Brony" label is marketable.
Perpetuation of this term can be attributed simply to the fact that people associate with it and are willing to buy things with that label on it. The word "Brony" has reached brand name status.
Personally, I don't think it's entirely a bad thing. There's still plenty of Pony merch out there for those like myself who enjoy the franchise but doesn't necessarily care to buy into the "Brony" end of things.
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The reason I feel the "Brony" generation (of which there are plenty of girls) gets more attention is they have made their presence known through social media. The internet and social media are second nature to this generation while those who grew up with G1 had to adjust to the internet later in life and just seem to approach it differently. If you do a survey here of who has a twitter or tumblr or fb account and divide it by those born before the 90s and those born after I am sure there will be a big gap in percentages.
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-voms at term 'brony'- :yikes:
ugh I'm sick of this phenomenon tbh. I know a couple of guys (no girlies..) who consider themselves 'bronies' and are FiM fans, but as I'm a pony collector sometimes I am assumed to be likewise - and I do not wish to be!!
FiM is fabby, don't get me wrong.. but I don't collect ponies bc of some stupid internet meme or whatever, I do so for reasons which are more personal (and closer to heart)- I was introduced to FiM by someone who gave me hope in a hellish situation (we used MLP as a distraction mechanism), and it's an escape from reality (which is often difficult).
Sigh stupid internet n00bs.. :x
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I just realized that I'm guilty of buying into the whole "brony" thing. BAck when the fandom was new, I bought the "Brony" shirt from HT (the one with the Rainbow Dash silhouette on it) and wore it out in public a few times. I still have it, but I don't wear it out in public anymore. I just bought it because I liked the silhouette. >.>
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I found this at Target for $10 in the Men's Section. I bought it of course! <3
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I found this at Target for $10 in the Men's Section. I bought it of course! <3
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I sent that shirt to the lovely SummerBlade for the Army swap! It's a great shirt:)
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I found this at Target for $10 in the Men's Section. I bought it of course! <3
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I sent that shirt to the lovely SummerBlade for the Army swap! It's a great shirt:)
It really is! It's not too guy-ish and it doesn't have the word "brony" on it. Plus it has Glory! How could I resist? lol
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I guess it depends on how bronies treated you. They were pretty cruel to me, mostly because I don't like the name ":muffin: Pony" or shipping Spike with Rarity, so my perception is not exactly generous.
I don't get why people are proud to be a brony either. I like a lot of cartoons, but don't feel especially proud. I'm not doing anything. It just seems like these days, people on the internet expect praise for existing.
I hope Hasbro realizes that there are non-brony fans out there perfectly willing to throw money at them. Has anyone considered writing to Funko and requesting a Minty?
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I don't think a lot of people understand why brony is such a bad term, and bronies in general is a bad thing.
There's been mainly female collectors (and children playing with the toys of course) for a very long time in ponydom. There were scant few males.
Hasbro threw us a bone once and a while--the 25th anniversary sets (even though they were pretty flawed, they were appreciated) the "art" ponies, etc.
But now, the male dominated fanbase, which isn't even all that big mind you, gets an entire clothing line? Wallets? Belts? Plush? Backpacks? Socks? Show characters they want either in BB or brushable form? Vinyl collector editions? A comic book?
This surely didn't happen with a female fanbase.
You can't blame bronies for hasbro's choice in marketing though. I understand why people would be upset that mlp fans (before bronies) didn't get that kind of merchandise and it bothers me too but there's not much we can do about it sadly. I would like to know what hasbro is doing now to appeal to the collector's now though. They did art ponies, anniversary type stuff and comic con ponies (which they still do). But hasbro hasn't really shown their appreciation for collector's. It seems all their focus now is the brony era.
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I found this at Target for $10 in the Men's Section. I bought it of course! <3
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I sent that shirt to the lovely SummerBlade for the Army swap! It's a great shirt:)
It really is! It's not too guy-ish and it doesn't have the word "brony" on it. Plus it has Glory! How could I resist? lol
I like that shirt too. It's good for people like me who are overweight, because since it's in the men's section I can wear it. However, I wish it had color to it, but I guess if it had color it would be a women's shirt in their eyes.
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I don't get why people are proud to be a brony either. I like a lot of cartoons, but don't feel especially proud. I'm not doing anything. It just seems like these days, people on the internet expect praise for existing.
Personally, I think that men especially are proud to be bronies because the brony movement is starting to indicate some change in society. Men are normally treated as if they're weak or sappy if they like something pink and girly. Then My Little Pony came along, and hey! Now it's okay to be a guy and like a girl's show! In fact, it might even be cool!
I know not everyone subscribes to that idea though. There are still a lot of people who think that bronies are 'gay', or 'girly men', or whatever. But I think that some people are starting to see that since it's okay for girls to like things "for boys", it should be okay for boys to like things "for girls".
Just my two cents, I suppose. :)
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I agree with HollowZero. I hope that Hasbro doesn't cater TOO much to Bronies - most Bronies I've met hate the brushable ponies, and only want all-molded manes, such as the Funko vinyl toys, or the blind-bag toys. And that, to me, is just killing the original charm of the series - the brushy-brush hair. :( Most Bronies just don't get the original charm of the line; they want ponies for what they want them to be, not for what they are.
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I don't get why people are proud to be a brony either. I like a lot of cartoons, but don't feel especially proud. I'm not doing anything. It just seems like these days, people on the internet expect praise for existing.
Personally, I think that men especially are proud to be bronies because the brony movement is starting to indicate some change in society. Men are normally treated as if they're weak or sappy if they like something pink and girly. Then My Little Pony came along, and hey! Now it's okay to be a guy and like a girl's show! In fact, it might even be cool!
I know not everyone subscribes to that idea though. There are still a lot of people who think that bronies are 'gay', or 'girly men', or whatever. But I think that some people are starting to see that since it's okay for girls to like things "for boys", it should be okay for boys to like things "for girls".
Just my two cents, I suppose. :)
I am a girl into gaming. I like grand theft auto games, metal gear solid games, and tomb raider games. I have some action figures for metal gear solid and tomb raider in my room. If I tell some guys I play those games they are shocked but don't really act like I'm invading their territory (as in playing video games are for guys).
What I don't like is when you search mlp sometimes on youtube and people have made inappropriate art and stuff for mlp, mostly using G4 style art.
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I agree with HollowZero. I hope that Hasbro doesn't cater TOO much to Bronies - most Bronies I've met hate the brushable ponies, and only want all-molded manes, such as the Funko vinyl toys, or the blind-bag toys. And that, to me, is just killing the original charm of the series - the brushy-brush hair. :( Most Bronies just don't get the original charm of the line; they want ponies for what they want them to be, not for what they are.
That's a good point too. Also, I think some bronies just like G4 because of the art style. Some fans of G4's are also into anime so I think it's an animation thing for some people.
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I found this at Target for $10 in the Men's Section. I bought it of course! <3
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I just bought that this weekend! I'm considering adding some glitter fabric paint to it...
I'm glad it just says "Ponies" and not "Bronies". I have the HT Brony Rainbow Dash shirt (it was a gift), but I just identify as a fan of ponies. If someone sees me cosplaying a MLP character and says "Hey, you're a brony!" I won't deny it, but that's not typically how I identify myself.
I just like the fact that there is merch for adults! I have often had to buy shirts in the kids' department if I wanted to express my fandom (for things like Pokemon, for example).
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I don't get why people are proud to be a brony either. I like a lot of cartoons, but don't feel especially proud. I'm not doing anything. It just seems like these days, people on the internet expect praise for existing.
Personally, I think that men especially are proud to be bronies because the brony movement is starting to indicate some change in society. Men are normally treated as if they're weak or sappy if they like something pink and girly. Then My Little Pony came along, and hey! Now it's okay to be a guy and like a girl's show! In fact, it might even be cool!
I know not everyone subscribes to that idea though. There are still a lot of people who think that bronies are 'gay', or 'girly men', or whatever. But I think that some people are starting to see that since it's okay for girls to like things "for boys", it should be okay for boys to like things "for girls".
Just my two cents, I suppose. :)
Well, I certainly don't think highly of anyone who thinks gay is bad!
Not that liking a pony show alters anyone's sexuality.
But I still think there is a lot of self-importance these days. I've seen people think they're good for liking certain things, but they are still cruel to others.
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I actually love the "brony" label on a lot of the new items. It definitely makes me proud of the fanbase. I overspent a bit last time I was in Hot Topic on pony stuff, but I don't regret it! Yeah, a lot of people have gripes about both bronies and the Hot Topic brand, and they're entitled. Me, I'm just enjoying the sweet sweet swag. Especially the vinyl :muffin: Pony and the socks. Well played, Hasbro.
I don't know... I like the term "brony" as an all inclusive term, and I think that's how many see it. I know the word itself denotes masculine tones, but I actually prefer one title for the whole group. I've said it before, but I happily call myself a brony.
Hoo boy, I hope this stays peaceful... I've got my eyeroll moments with my fellow bronies now and then, but I freaking love the fandom in general. A good show is a good show, and I really see nothing in FiM that screams "for girls" unless one subscribes to traditional gender roles, which in itself is rather alienating to one who grew up playing with both Barbies and Ninja Turtles.
:happy: < THESE ) :frolic:
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I love Brony. I love the word - but I've got a ridiculous collection of ALL generations, mainly G1s, and I don't diss on any gens (except maybe the G3.5s... some of them scare me) - Regardless, I wear the Brony arm band from HT, I have the RD Brony shirt - and I've been walking around campus and gotten many "Hey nice shirt!" with that one. All of my friends would probably say 'Brony' and I think to the 'outside world' it's easier for people to just say Brony because it's all over the internet and stores and television shows... it's like having a name for people who collect stamps or coins (for those people), so maybe HT and Hasbro as just trying to cash in on both facets? Pony collectors and people who really want to define 'Brony' as something specific? As long as they make money, right? ...they probably don't even know of all the deeper meanings/associations that people have for 'Brony', lol
I've got to get back to HT - I'm actually more not a fan of the shirts that say stuff on them at all, I wish they had more things with just ponies on them and no words, though I do like the RD inspired 20% cooler stuff. ^_^
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I found this at Target for $10 in the Men's Section. I bought it of course! <3
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I just bought that this weekend! I'm considering adding some glitter fabric paint to it...
I'm glad it just says "Ponies" and not "Bronies". I have the HT Brony Rainbow Dash shirt (it was a gift), but I just identify as a fan of ponies. If someone sees me cosplaying a MLP character and says "Hey, you're a brony!" I won't deny it, but that's not typically how I identify myself.
I just like the fact that there is merch for adults! I have often had to buy shirts in the kids' department if I wanted to express my fandom (for things like Pokemon, for example).
Yeah I agree about there being merchandise for adults. It seems not too long ago we were complaining about the lack of pony shirts for adults or clothing for adults.
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The only type of pony I dislike is 3.5 but the only reason is that the faces of them... kinda scare me :lookround: Lol, their whole bodies don't seem pony-ish. I saw someone said they resemble turtles... I kinda agree. But I have no problem with them, and I understand that the cartoons were made for way younger kids in mind, but I have to admit, the newborn cuties show is so bad it's good. I had lots of laughs watching it. :biggrin: I support the word Brony. It's way easier and funner to say than Pegasister. >_< I like a universal term.
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I wasn't saying they should own the fandom, I just meant that women should be a bit more willing to share.
Why? Pretty much everything else in the world is aimed at white men, why should we be more willing to share one of the very, very few things that has been actually aimed at and created for women? I don't have a problem with guys liking the show, I think that's great. But they shouldn't suddenly completely change the target demographic just because some men like it now. If the male fans actually like the show and franchise for what it is, then they try and change it to cater more towards them.
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I wasn't saying they should own the fandom, I just meant that women should be a bit more willing to share.
Why? Pretty much everything else in the world is aimed at white men, why should we be more willing to share one of the very, very few things that has been actually aimed at and created for women? I don't have a problem with guys liking the show, I think that's great. But they shouldn't suddenly completely change the target demographic just because some men like it now. If the male fans actually like the show and franchise for what it is, then they try and change it to cater more towards them.
I think Hasbro should just try to consider all their fans of every generation and not stick to just the bronies.
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I don't get why people are proud to be a brony either. I like a lot of cartoons, but don't feel especially proud. I'm not doing anything. It just seems like these days, people on the internet expect praise for existing.
Personally, I think that men especially are proud to be bronies because the brony movement is starting to indicate some change in society. Men are normally treated as if they're weak or sappy if they like something pink and girly. Then My Little Pony came along, and hey! Now it's okay to be a guy and like a girl's show! In fact, it might even be cool!
I know not everyone subscribes to that idea though. There are still a lot of people who think that bronies are 'gay', or 'girly men', or whatever. But I think that some people are starting to see that since it's okay for girls to like things "for boys", it should be okay for boys to like things "for girls".
Just my two cents, I suppose. :)
All of that is nice but i don't like how these days it doesn't really seem to be about "guys liking things aimed at girls".
These days it seems more about "how will we make people believe that watching FIM/MLP is totally manly and bad-ass".
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I don't get why people are proud to be a brony either. I like a lot of cartoons, but don't feel especially proud. I'm not doing anything. It just seems like these days, people on the internet expect praise for existing.
Personally, I think that men especially are proud to be bronies because the brony movement is starting to indicate some change in society. Men are normally treated as if they're weak or sappy if they like something pink and girly. Then My Little Pony came along, and hey! Now it's okay to be a guy and like a girl's show! In fact, it might even be cool!
I know not everyone subscribes to that idea though. There are still a lot of people who think that bronies are 'gay', or 'girly men', or whatever. But I think that some people are starting to see that since it's okay for girls to like things "for boys", it should be okay for boys to like things "for girls".
Just my two cents, I suppose. :)
All of that is nice but i don't like how these days it doesn't really seem to be about "guys liking things aimed at girls".
These days it seems more about "how will we make people believe that watching FIM/MLP is totally manly and bad-ass".
I agree. Based on the trend I'm seeing (or think I'm seeing), when brony first came about it was now it's public for guys to like mlp now it's like brony is the way of life where mlp is concerned. Sorry if I'm taking anything the wrong way, I don't mean to.
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I wish the UK would stock these as I'm not overly fond of the 'womenswear' pony shirts from Primark. I love the G1 ponies on them, but the one I have is spoilt by the 'Daddy I want a pony' thing that they seem so fond of using.
I'd much prefer menswear honestly, and I'm tempted to put in an order with them. Anyone ordered from the UK?
Also, what exactly is the 'free gift'?
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Well, I certainly don't think highly of anyone who thinks gay is bad!
Not that liking a pony show alters anyone's sexuality.
But I still think there is a lot of self-importance these days. I've seen people think they're good for liking certain things, but they are still cruel to others.
I completely agree with you. I despise it when people use 'gay' as an insult, and there are quite a number of self-important people in the world, both in and out of the MLP fandom.
All of that is nice but i don't like how these days it doesn't really seem to be about "guys liking things aimed at girls".
These days it seems more about "how will we make people believe that watching FIM/MLP is totally manly and bad-ass".
The way I see it, Hasbro knows that a lot of guys like MLP nowadays. However, I think that they also know that even if they like MLP, they won't necessarily buy MLP related merchandise if it's bright pink or pastel colored. So they market tons of black or neutral colored shirts and wallets and belts and whatnot, in order to lure in those people who wouldn't otherwise buy MLP related merchandise. In other words, marketing. ^^;
I do agree that it's a bit weird when people try and say watching MLP is "manly". I just think it's fun to do and that it has nothing to do with gender! :P
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Again as OL1 has already said - lets keep this on the topic of FiM merchandise and not our opinions of other collectors no matter what we each call ourselves.
I think its important to remember that none of the products we are talking about are technically Hasbro items - they are merchandised and therefore licensed to third parties. Out with HB control [subject to a contract] but not outside there sphere if that makes sense. So in many ways I hope HB have catered to this large unexpected market through adult merch aimed, yes in the main, at men. If this means the toys can continue to be aimed at little girls then that works for me.
Whichever way we each lean in liking or not liking, it is all about making the $$$. Buying a license for a line like MLP is not cheap, a licensee needs to find a way to make their money back and more and do so quickly - especially for something like this. I am not saying its a fad but marketing companies are always wary of the potential short life expectancy of anything which bursts from nothing to something so big, so quickly. So yes the goal will be to shift as much product as possible as quickly as possible when the concept is at its peak.
I am sure over the future years of G4, there will be more and more licensees and products so personal I will hope for a more broad reaching spectrum targeting guys and gals, old collectors and new collectors, adults and kids.
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I was just in Hot Topic on Sat. I went in to pick up the Fluttershy "Yay!" shirt I'd been wanting. I looked at the :muffin: Pony figure several times. But the quality was just so bad I couldn't bring myself to pay even the sale price. They didn't have the underwear. I wish they did. I would've bought them! I've been wishing for some G4 undies. My G3 ones are just about shot. *wanders off to check Ebay*
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I wish the UK would stock these as I'm not overly fond of the 'womenswear' pony shirts from Primark. I love the G1 ponies on them, but the one I have is spoilt by the 'Daddy I want a pony' thing that they seem so fond of using.
I'd much prefer menswear honestly, and I'm tempted to put in an order with them. Anyone ordered from the UK?
Also, what exactly is the 'free gift'?
The free gift is a Papercraft which is basically a card stock backdrop with characters that you can display with it. There is a Grand Galloping Gala set, The Mane 6 vs Nightmare Moon and a Cloudsdale set. I think the Cloudsdale set is what they are giving out now. There are pictures in this thread that I started.
http://mlparena.com/mlp/index.php/topic,313861.0.html
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I wish the UK would stock these as I'm not overly fond of the 'womenswear' pony shirts from Primark. I love the G1 ponies on them, but the one I have is spoilt by the 'Daddy I want a pony' thing that they seem so fond of using.
I'd much prefer menswear honestly, and I'm tempted to put in an order with them. Anyone ordered from the UK?
Also, what exactly is the 'free gift'?
The free gift is a Papercraft which is basically a card stock backdrop with characters that you can display with it. There is a Grand Galloping Gala set, The Mane 6 vs Nightmare Moon and a Cloudsdale set. I think the Cloudsdale set is what they are giving out now. There are pictures in this thread that I started.
http://mlparena.com/mlp/index.php/topic,313861.0.html
Thank you! :)
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The only pony shirts I have I got from Hot Topic, I wish I had more though. I have the :muffin: Pony is Best Pony one with :muffin: Pony in her bag costume, and the error shirt with the weird coloring. When I went to Hot Topic like 3 weeks ago and saw it I squealed. :dribble:
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The only pony shirts I have I got from Hot Topic, I wish I had more though. I have the :muffin: Pony is Best Pony one with :muffin: Pony in her bag costume, and the error shirt with the weird coloring. When I went to Hot Topic like 3 weeks ago and saw it I squealed. :dribble:
I think is a license deal that someone is totally getting their worth for, maybe a company will do the same and cater to women only,maybe the next Victoria Secrets or A ''purse designer will get a run for it and exploit it just like Hot topic/welovefine is doing it.
:) wait for it............! it is coming for sure, coach,LV purses with MLP!!!
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'brony' is a gender neutral term for me. I, personally, have been shown nothing but respect from bronies. I am aware that there are some bad apples, but that can be said for every fandom. Even our collector base has its share.
I only have one real concern. I hope hasbro never forgets who they are really catering to
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Hasbro threw us a bone once and a while--the 25th anniversary sets (even though they were pretty flawed, they were appreciated) the "art" ponies, etc.
But now, the male dominated fanbase, which isn't even all that big mind you, gets an entire clothing line? Wallets? Belts? Plush? Backpacks? Socks? Show characters they want either in BB or brushable form? Vinyl collector editions? A comic book?
This surely didn't happen with a female fanbase.
I agree with this. When they say 'it's a man's world', it really holds a lot of truth. Things only take off if it has a large male fanbase. When ponies were 'for girls only', we hardly got anything. But all the merchandise that says brony on it makes me feel that, as a female, I am being alienated by something I've loved for so long. It might seem ridiculous to some of you and maybe it is, but I cannot seem to help but feel this way.
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I don't accept "brony" as gender-neutral and don't think people should call others it unless they're okay with it.
I agree with the catering aspect--it's first and foremost a kids' show, and will always belong to kids.
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I wasn't saying they should own the fandom, I just meant that women should be a bit more willing to share.
Why? Pretty much everything else in the world is aimed at white men, why should we be more willing to share one of the very, very few things that has been actually aimed at and created for women? I don't have a problem with guys liking the show, I think that's great. But they shouldn't suddenly completely change the target demographic just because some men like it now. If the male fans actually like the show and franchise for what it is, then they try and change it to cater more towards them.
I totally agree with this. White straight cis males like to be included in everything. And that is not necessarily a bad thing. However, they often exclude others so it can be very frustrating and it leaves people without their own "spaces". Not to mention, bronies, as opposed to collectors, are the people more likely to pirate the show as a generalization. That probably doesn't cost Hasbro all that much though.
Also I think it is important to note that marketing is a very different beast than it has been in the past. With the ubiquitous nature of the internet, market research and customer opinions can be gathered and analyzed rather quickly. So merchandise can be developed, targeted, and shelved all very speedily. With that said, as others have pointed out, the white male demographic is highly sought after because it has the most spending power.
Still, as hathorcat said, these being just licensed products gives me great hope for actual Hasbro products. If the brony fandom can get this bone and be pacified, perhaps something good is in store for little girls and boys and collectors. I am crossing my fingers for a whole new heap of brushables!
As for Hottopic. I hate how loud the music always is in there.
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Most of the companies who make the licensed merch were already companies that catered to males. They saw MLP was popular with their customer base and sought out the license from Hasbro. Hasbro wants to make money so of course they gave them the license. Meanwhile the companies that cater to women seem to be too busy pushing "sexy" to bother with anything too cute.
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I wasn't saying they should own the fandom, I just meant that women should be a bit more willing to share.
Why? Pretty much everything else in the world is aimed at white men, why should we be more willing to share one of the very, very few things that has been actually aimed at and created for women? I don't have a problem with guys liking the show, I think that's great. But they shouldn't suddenly completely change the target demographic just because some men like it now. If the male fans actually like the show and franchise for what it is, then they try and change it to cater more towards them.
I think Hasbro should just try to consider all their fans of every generation and not stick to just the bronies.
As it's been stated, though, Hasbro aren't the ones making this merch. It's licensed by outside companies. The heart of the pony line is still the toys, regardless of what merch is coming out right now. I think it's cool to see all of this different stuff coming out right now, and I can honestly thank the bronies for most of it. Loving the shirts, accessories, and other stuff HT has. Yes, I know not everyone agrees, but I like it. No one's changing the target demographic. It still is, and always will be, the little girls who love pastel colored ponies. But I see nothing wrong with branching out to other demographics as well.
And as far as it being a "man's world," I think the street goes both ways, so to speak. Women complain about not being allowed into men's fandoms and the like, but then get up in arms when men want to join a women's fandom. They aren't trying to take over. I've seen bronies wanting more show-accurate stuff, but never once have I seen one demand that Hasbro cater only to men. There's quite a few women that identify as bronies, don't forget. A good chunk of them even admit to liking the brushables. The day that the genders really become equal is the day where we stop labeling things as "for men" or "for women."
One of the things I love about FiM is how it's breaking down those gender barriers. Most bronies, to me at least, don't seem to be on a crusade to make the show more "manly." They seem to enjoy it for exactly what it is, a show for girls. I like how all of the toys and merch are blending the demographics together. Becuase, again, why should something be for boys or girls?
But I've said my piece, and that's that. Don't want to get into fights with anyone ^.^
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You know, I don't mind the brony part. I do mind the over breeding of merch with dash on it. I love dash to bits but would like to see some other ponies in the spotlight on their products they request/carry.
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Yeah, Dash is over done. Just like Bubbles, Dr Hoof, and DJ Pawn or whatever he name is.
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You know, I don't mind the brony part. I do mind the over breeding of merch with dash on it. I love dash to bits but would like to see some other ponies in the spotlight on their products they request/carry.
They should also stop putting Pinkie Pie on everything as well. It's always Dash and Pinkie. I want Rarity and Fluttershy to get the spotlight! I love them so much! <3
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Fluttershy needs more things.
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'brony' is a gender neutral term for me.
It isn't a gender neutral term. Brony is "bro" + "pony." Bro = slang for brother. Brother refers to a male category. Therefore brony is an inherently masculine term. It is not gender neutral.
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Fluttershy needs more things.
I saw a boy at McDonald's with this really lovely Fluttershy shirt. It was all fancy swirls and such on a black background - I should have asked him where he got it.
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'brony' is a gender neutral term for me.
It isn't a gender neutral term. Brony is "bro" + "pony." Bro = slang for brother. Brother refers to a male category. Therefore brony is an inherently masculine term. It is not gender neutral.
It might not be gender neutral in origin but it can become gender neutral. "dude" and "guys" is used in a gender neutral way tho they are originally masculine terms. "bro" is also on its way to becoming gender neutral. This one girl I am friends with (she is not into ponies) is always calling me "bro" tho I am not masculine at all.
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'brony' is a gender neutral term for me.
It isn't a gender neutral term. Brony is "bro" + "pony." Bro = slang for brother. Brother refers to a male category. Therefore brony is an inherently masculine term. It is not gender neutral.
It might not be gender neutral in origin but it can become gender neutral. "dude" and "guys" is used in a gender neutral way tho they are originally masculine terms. "bro" is also on its way to becoming gender neutral. This one girl I am friends with (she is not into ponies) is always calling me "bro" tho I am not masculine at all.
Unfortunately, just because something gains a new use doesn't change its actual nature. I say this as someone who calls everyone bro and dude, regardless of how femme they are.
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Fluttershy needs more things.
Fluttershy has things (though I'd LOVE some more Fluttershy things). Rarity has barely any things :( You know, for a pony with such a big personality, she sure is getting the raw end of the deal lol. I've seen maybe 2 Rarity shirts. Why in the world hasn't come up with Rarity jewelry or hair accessories (yeah that stuff's for girls and women folk, but...Rarity is such a girly fashionista!) Come on, people. A Rarity pendant or cutie mark earrings! Like, officially made (I say that because I've seen some UH-MAYZING custom-made jewelry from seriously talented folks out there that I want to make sure I acknowledge, cause they sure as heck deserve the praise!).
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Yeah, I'm not sure if bronies are especially fond of Rarity.
(Of course, a bunch of bronies are probably going to respond to this to prove me wrong! :D )
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Hmm? I know a ton of bronies who have an almost obsession with her, lol... But in all honesty, it wouldn't hurt whoever's in charge of merchandise to put, you know...ALL the 6 characters on a few things.
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I seriously agree at the lack of Rarity stuff! She's my favorite pony in FiM and I NEVER see any merchandise with her. I'd adore having a fairly large plushie of her.
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I'm looking forward to the hair accessories (http://www.mlponies.com/2012/10/16/ponies-go-high-class-with-exclusive-designer-collection-this-spring/) that are supposed to come out in spring, definitely girly!
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I'm looking forward to the hair accessories (http://www.mlponies.com/2012/10/16/ponies-go-high-class-with-exclusive-designer-collection-this-spring/) that are supposed to come out in spring, definitely girly!
How fun! Those are a perfect match-up!
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I found this at Target for $10 in the Men's Section. I bought it of course! <3
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Oh my gosh, I need this!
What I really wish most of all is that someone would do a good box set of MLP&Friends. Complete specials, unedited episodes, and a good transfer without interlacing and digital noise reduction smeariness.
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I'm looking forward to the hair accessories (http://www.mlponies.com/2012/10/16/ponies-go-high-class-with-exclusive-designer-collection-this-spring/) that are supposed to come out in spring, definitely girly!
ERMAHGERD! Those are amazing!!!!
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I just visited Hot Topic recently and they now have MLP headphones! I actually want a pair, they are the big comfortable looking ones. I hate the ear bud headphones that are the thing now. They usually hurt my ears. I hope they have another sale though because I do not want to pay $30 for them. They also had 2 new Luna shirts, a villains shirt and shirt similar to that with all the good ponies. They also had the socks, and underwear people were talking about. I like the socks and the underwear but I am not paying $20 for 3 pairs of underwear. I will probably eventually get the socks. They also had the new zip up RD sweatshirt with ears and mane which was cool and the hug RD back packs and pony suspenders. So much new stuff. Yay!
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Oh. o_o! I was wondering about the price of the headphones. :') Are they the type that actually fit over the ear? or on it. *__* $30 is cheaper than I thought they'd be ~~
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They're over the ear cans, I actually meant to include them in this week's column but I forgot. oops :x
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I love the sock pack. The underwear pack is overpriced, especially since I can fit into the little kids ones that I got at Walmart for much cheaper.
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Unfortunately, just because something gains a new use doesn't change its actual nature. I say this as someone who calls everyone bro and dude, regardless of how femme they are.
I agree that a word's origin will never change, but I absolutely believe a word's meaning can change. That's how language works. But then, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "nature," though. Is it what the word means? The connotation?
But words can mean anything people decide they mean, it just depends on how they use it. Here's a fun list I found: http://writinghood.com/style/grammar/eight-words-which-have-completely-changed-their-meaning-over-time/
I notice there's no citation on the examples on this site, but I bet it's been covered extensively by William Safire and others.
Sorry that I posted this and it has nothing to do with ponies, just having a defensive English major moment. :nerdy:
I like that Hot Topic has become a place that sells "brony" merch. That kind of stuff wouldn't sell well in the toy stores or department stores, but there's a lot of money in it.
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I WOULDd actually jst like to find some old gen (1-3) merchandise in the endless sea of FiM :huh:
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I WOULDd actually jst like to find some old gen (1-3) merchandise in the endless sea of FiM :huh:
This. I remember when I used to be able to find some cute G1 merch. I still have my "Party Time" shirt with Masquerade on it. And didn't they use to have Applejack shoelaces, or am I just imagining that? I swear at one point in time I saw some G1 AJ laces! It'd be super if they could throw us a bone and have even a little bit of G1 merch. But I suppose that wouldn't be "cool" :huh:
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"Brony" just rolls off the tongue so much better than "Dedicated adult fan of My Little Ponies"
LOL
For awhile, right around the time when G3s came out, there were some good vintage G1 things to be found in stores! I remember a trash tin, wallet, sweatshirt (I had a cuuuute pink one, no idea what happened to it), and lunch boxes.
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"Brony" just rolls off the tongue so much better than "Dedicated adult fan of My Little Ponies"
LOL
For awhile, right around the time when G3s came out, there were some good vintage G1 things to be found in stores! I remember a trash tin, wallet, sweatshirt (I had a cuuuute pink one, no idea what happened to it), and lunch boxes.
With all the negativity that comes from the word "brony", I just call myself an MLP fan. That's it. Nice, simple and to the point and you're less likely to get negative reactions. :)
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Yeah, I about died when I saw the price of the undies. That's just taking advantage of people. >_< I wanted them, but forget it. I'll spend that much on the backpack which I must have.
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I bought the undies when the whole store was 20% off. At least they were somewhat reasonable that way.
Anyhoo, if you are a size 6-ish, get the Small instead of the medium. I have baggy pony panties now because I should have gotten the small. :(
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I caved and bought the undies last week when I found out still had my birthday discount on my HT card. >>
I figured that no one would see them but me so why should I care? xP
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And didn't they use to have Applejack shoelaces, or am I just imagining that? I swear at one point in time I saw some G1 AJ laces! It'd be super if they could throw us a bone and have even a little bit of G1 merch. But I suppose that wouldn't be "cool" :huh:
I remember those! I had them back when I was in high school, I couldn't remember if they came from Hot Topic, Spencers, or Claires though.
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I have such mixed feelings about the whole thing because as others have stated, it was natural for me to love FiM being a lifelong pony fan from way back in the 80's when they came out, and I love that the Brony phenomenon has brought about tons of pony Merch and sites like welovefine.com with man shirts and things. But it is bittersweet because my MAIN love is for the original G1 ponies and Pony Tales shows that were on when I was growing up and it's very difficult to find much merch for these Ponies which makes me super sad. i know that most of the Bronies are all about FiM and I love FiM I really do, I watch it and have merch from it and other things but I wish there was more past generational love when it comes to MLP. It's finally gotten tons of attention, and there is still not much going on for us fans of the original even though we have had a mostly lifelong dedication to the fandom. *sigh*
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I agree with the statement that I hope that they don't lose sight of who their main target demographic is: kids. I mean, I love all of the adult merchandise, but when I've checked places like EqD and various online shopping sights, aside from the toys that they have, it seems like they're lacking in things for girls (yeah, they get a new shirt every once in a while and some coloring books, but it just seems alarmingly scant in my eyes)
It would be nice if they did more collector ponies. I read in another thread that Hasbro isn't doing anymore art ponies, and it kind of frustrates me, yes, I like the background ponies, but the art ponies are so stunning and it's not fair of them to cater their special pony to the Bronies :(
I mean, I didn't like ponies before FiM, but I've done my research, I've fallen in love with the older ponies, and I really feel that if they just gave those ponies a chance that they might like them too!
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I agree with the statement that I hope that they don't lose sight of who their main target demographic is: kids. I mean, I love all of the adult merchandise, but when I've checked places like EqD and various online shopping sights, aside from the toys that they have, it seems like they're lacking in things for girls (yeah, they get a new shirt every once in a while and some coloring books, but it just seems alarmingly scant in my eyes)
It would be nice if they did more collector ponies. I read in another thread that Hasbro isn't doing anymore art ponies, and it kind of frustrates me, yes, I like the background ponies, but the art ponies are so stunning and it's not fair of them to cater their special pony to the Bronies :(
Why not? It wouldn't be fair for them to cater to older collectors forever.
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Well, I mean, they said that at the fair, they would have a different pony than at Comic Con, and there's not as much for old-time collectors as there used to be, and it would be nice, at least, if they could get their own fair pony.
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Why not? It wouldn't be fair for them to cater to older collectors forever.
Cater to older collectors? Older collectors are Hasbro's middle child. They're largely ignored and swept under the rug in favor of little girls-- their target audience/"oldest child" (which, hey, is how it's supposed to be-- they are toys after all!) and Hasbro's new favorite "youngest child," the bronies. I don't think catering to older collecters is something you have to worry about. Ever. Just about all we ever had were the art ponies, and it's looking like we don't even have that anymore.
Back on topic, I have very mixed feelings about all the Hot Topic MLP merch as well. But then again, I've never liked how MLP has become the cool new "in" thing right now...
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Since the fair was started by older collectors, people trying to keep the pony brand alive for years when Hasbro wasn't selling much MLP, I think it's only right they continue to market to their original demographic - who started watching FIM before it was embraced by bronydom. But Hasbro doesnt care. Go back pages and pages and people are discussing a sneak peek of the very first ep. it would be lovely if they had a g4 art pony.
What Luna shirts do Hot Topic have now? Their website is terrible for me. Broken images always.
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Hasbro saw a chance to have a sold-out pony everyone would talk about at Comic-Con, and they went for it.
Since the fair was started by older collectors, people trying to keep the pony brand alive for years when Hasbro wasn't selling much MLP, I think it's only right they continue to market to their original demographic - who started watching FIM before it was embraced by bronydom. But Hasbro doesnt care. Go back pages and pages and people are discussing a sneak peek of the very first ep. it would be lovely if they had a g4 art pony.
What Luna shirts do Hot Topic have now? Their website is terrible for me. Broken images always.
People who never had collected ponies before started watching FiM the day it aired, people were waiting for it due to the previous work done by the creator. They didn't become fans of it for the toys, they became fans of it because they liked cartoons.
I found one Luna t-shirt at Hot Topic, it says "Luna is best princess" on it. I don't think they have both men's and women's sizes, though.
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What Luna shirts do Hot Topic have now? Their website is terrible for me. Broken images always.
I believe there are 3: 2 men's and 1 women's. Men's say something like "Vote Luna and the fun will be doubled" and the other "Luna is Best Princess". The women's one is something along the lines of "The fun was doubled" or something like that.
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I don't really see what's wrong with the panties? I mean I'd love some of them! They made G1 Snuzzle panties over here, why not G4? Those Muffin socks are SO cute, I'd love to get a pair of them!
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*shrugs* Hot Topic is for teens and maybe adults. That's the age group that bronies fall into. I don't see the problem.
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*shrugs* Hot Topic is for teens and maybe adults. That's the age group that bronies fall into. I don't see the problem.
Except last time I checked, men aren't the only ones who shop at Hot Topic. The only MLP item I found specifically targeted toward women were their wallets and 1 t-shirt. Even the gender neutral objects like the vinyl ponies and the belts were all grouped together with the mens' merchandise, which is honestly pretty off-putting.
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Well, Hot Topic in general doesn't carry very much pony merch, just the absolute most popular stuff. WeLoveFine is really the place to go if you want G4 pony shirts, men's or women's. Heck, they just came out with a whole bunch of pony themed tunics in their women's section...
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All hail that male dollar! Sigh. I was IGNORED by a Pony artist because they wanted to talk to men dressed up as Rarity instead when I went to a con.
That said, HT needs some more diversity and also they need to make nonblack pony shirts! Color please.
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All hail that male dollar! Sigh. I was IGNORED by a Pony artist because they wanted to talk to men dressed up as Rarity instead when I went to a con.
That said, HT needs some more diversity and also they need to make nonblack pony shirts! Color please.
They have a blue Doctor Whooves and a Grey Silly Grey Pegasus shirt
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I will admit, I love shopping at HT. I love all the pop culture stuff in there. It's true, the store has changed. Times change and if they want to stay in the business, they have to meet the demands of the customers and what they want.
Personally, I am happy that I can actually see what I am buying now lol. Before I used to shop there, it was so dark, it was like shopping in a cave.
wanna know something else?
My mom is in her 60s and will go in there and shop with me. She likes looking at all of the weird and cool stuff in there as well.
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I agree with the statement that I hope that they don't lose sight of who their main target demographic is: kids. I mean, I love all of the adult merchandise, but when I've checked places like EqD and various online shopping sights, aside from the toys that they have, it seems like they're lacking in things for girls (yeah, they get a new shirt every once in a while and some coloring books, but it just seems alarmingly scant in my eyes)
It would be nice if they did more collector ponies. I read in another thread that Hasbro isn't doing anymore art ponies, and it kind of frustrates me, yes, I like the background ponies, but the art ponies are so stunning and it's not fair of them to cater their special pony to the Bronies :(
I mean, I didn't like ponies before FiM, but I've done my research, I've fallen in love with the older ponies, and I really feel that if they just gave those ponies a chance that they might like them too!
I agree, but I'm sure there's a way for hasbro to cater to both bronies and collector's. The collector's were into MLP first if they were G1 fans and have been loyal thus far. Not saying collector's are better, just that Hasbro should keep the collector's in mind too. Nothing wrong with making a special pony for collector's each year and sticking to the FIM fandom.
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I agree with the statement that I hope that they don't lose sight of who their main target demographic is: kids. I mean, I love all of the adult merchandise, but when I've checked places like EqD and various online shopping sights, aside from the toys that they have, it seems like they're lacking in things for girls (yeah, they get a new shirt every once in a while and some coloring books, but it just seems alarmingly scant in my eyes)
It would be nice if they did more collector ponies. I read in another thread that Hasbro isn't doing anymore art ponies, and it kind of frustrates me, yes, I like the background ponies, but the art ponies are so stunning and it's not fair of them to cater their special pony to the Bronies :(
Why not? It wouldn't be fair for them to cater to older collectors forever.
It's not fair for bronies and fans of FIM to be the only ones who get merchandise either. I think that's the point. Hasbro needs to find a way for collector's, kids, and FIM fans to all be happy. I think right now, collector's feel they have been pushed aside. I'm a collector so that's how I feel.
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I actually think Hasbro should not try at all. Because it seems like when they do try to please fans, others are not pleased! So if they do the opposite... everyone will be happy!!! XD
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I agree, but I'm sure there's a way for hasbro to cater to both bronies and collector's. The collector's were into MLP first if they were G1 fans and have been loyal thus far. Not saying collector's are better, just that Hasbro should keep the collector's in mind too. Nothing wrong with making a special pony for collector's each year and sticking to the FIM fandom.
Now, I'm not saying that I don't wish that there was more retro style merch available, but I have to point out the business side of it. We may have been loyal collectors all these years, but how are we making Hasbro money? Specifically if we aren't collecting G4 stuff. Unless you're buying ponies new, from the store, or are buying officially licensed merch, Hasbro isn't seeing a dime from you.
From what I've seen from bronies/fans of FiM/G4 collectors: they're putting their money where their mouth is. Bronies in particular seem to be quite eager to drop large sums of money on merchandise, so I can see why the licensed third party companies are listening to them.
Not saying that anybody is wrong in their opinions, I just wanted to say what is probably going through Hasbro's head. They're concerned about their bottom line, plain and simple.
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I agree, but I'm sure there's a way for hasbro to cater to both bronies and collector's. The collector's were into MLP first if they were G1 fans and have been loyal thus far. Not saying collector's are better, just that Hasbro should keep the collector's in mind too. Nothing wrong with making a special pony for collector's each year and sticking to the FIM fandom.
Now, I'm not saying that I don't wish that there was more retro style merch available, but I have to point out the business side of it. We may have been loyal collectors all these years, but how are we making Hasbro money? Specifically if we aren't collecting G4 stuff. Unless you're buying ponies new, from the store, or are buying officially licensed merch, Hasbro isn't seeing a dime from you.
From what I've seen from bronies/fans of FiM/G4 collectors: they're putting their money where their mouth is. Bronies in particular seem to be quite eager to drop large sums of money on merchandise, so I can see why the licensed third party companies are listening to them.
Not saying that anybody is wrong in their opinions, I just wanted to say what is probably going through Hasbro's head. They're concerned about their bottom line, plain and simple.
That's why Hasbro should be making products aimed at collectors. They would at least get a pretty loyal buyer.
You can't really put your money where your mouth is when there are no products to buy. Though frankly, i think our group is so much smaller than the bronies...i don't think Hasbro can be bothered with us.
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*shrugs* Hot Topic is for teens and maybe adults. That's the age group that bronies fall into. I don't see the problem.
Except last time I checked, men aren't the only ones who shop at Hot Topic. The only MLP item I found specifically targeted toward women were their wallets and 1 t-shirt. Even the gender neutral objects like the vinyl ponies and the belts were all grouped together with the mens' merchandise, which is honestly pretty off-putting.
Not at the two that are close to me. There are at least 6 different women's shirts, the sleep pants and robe are in the women's section....the toys are in their own section...and the wallets, etc. are also in their own section. Actually, here at mine there's a better MLP women's and gender neutral section than guys, when I think about it. :shrug:
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I agree, but I'm sure there's a way for hasbro to cater to both bronies and collector's. The collector's were into MLP first if they were G1 fans and have been loyal thus far. Not saying collector's are better, just that Hasbro should keep the collector's in mind too. Nothing wrong with making a special pony for collector's each year and sticking to the FIM fandom.
Now, I'm not saying that I don't wish that there was more retro style merch available, but I have to point out the business side of it. We may have been loyal collectors all these years, but how are we making Hasbro money? Specifically if we aren't collecting G4 stuff. Unless you're buying ponies new, from the store, or are buying officially licensed merch, Hasbro isn't seeing a dime from you.
From what I've seen from bronies/fans of FiM/G4 collectors: they're putting their money where their mouth is. Bronies in particular seem to be quite eager to drop large sums of money on merchandise, so I can see why the licensed third party companies are listening to them.
Not saying that anybody is wrong in their opinions, I just wanted to say what is probably going through Hasbro's head. They're concerned about their bottom line, plain and simple.
Hmmm....the only problem with this is that I am pretty sure if you add up what collectors have been spending with Hasbro for the last decade its a significant amount of money. Probably, yes, a drop in the ocean in comparison to their actual target market but I think its unfair to say that loyal collectors are not making Hasbro any money when you consider the number of G3s within collections. I dont think its fair to say bronies/fans of FiM/G4 collectors only get what they want because they put their money where there mouth is...I am reasonably certain this fact can be said about earlier fans as well. Why have earlier fans not bought merch etc? Because there traditionally hasnt been very much offered - perhaps if such items existed they would like wise be popular.
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I agree, but I'm sure there's a way for hasbro to cater to both bronies and collector's. The collector's were into MLP first if they were G1 fans and have been loyal thus far. Not saying collector's are better, just that Hasbro should keep the collector's in mind too. Nothing wrong with making a special pony for collector's each year and sticking to the FIM fandom.
Now, I'm not saying that I don't wish that there was more retro style merch available, but I have to point out the business side of it. We may have been loyal collectors all these years, but how are we making Hasbro money? Specifically if we aren't collecting G4 stuff. Unless you're buying ponies new, from the store, or are buying officially licensed merch, Hasbro isn't seeing a dime from you.
From what I've seen from bronies/fans of FiM/G4 collectors: they're putting their money where their mouth is. Bronies in particular seem to be quite eager to drop large sums of money on merchandise, so I can see why the licensed third party companies are listening to them.
Not saying that anybody is wrong in their opinions, I just wanted to say what is probably going through Hasbro's head. They're concerned about their bottom line, plain and simple.
Hmmm....the only problem with this is that I am pretty sure if you add up what collectors have been spending with Hasbro for the last decade its a significant amount of money. Probably, yes, a drop in the ocean in comparison to their actual target market but I think its unfair to say that loyal collectors are not making Hasbro any money when you consider the number of G3s within collections. I dont think its fair to say bronies/fans of FiM/G4 collectors only get what they want because they put their money where there mouth is...I am reasonably certain this fact can be said about earlier fans as well. Why have earlier fans not bought merch etc? Because there traditionally hasnt been very much offered - perhaps if such items existed they would like wise be popular.
This is all true! I was just trying to play devil's advocate a bit. ;) I know Hasbro has seen its fair share of money from myself!
There definitely are some retro shirts out there, but I think they have severely limiting factors on who can buy them: most of the women's shirts only go up to XL, and a bunch that I've seen have to be shipped from England, which costs a ton in postage. There is also little to no retro merch for men, which is kind of a bummer.