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Title: My new Scrumptious deflocked finally. New pic.
Post by: Gator on July 10, 2018, 08:01:36 PM
This lady arrived in a lot.  Lipstick on her mouth and these horrible brown stains.

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The flocking itself doesn't appear stained, it looks like it is underneath on her skin.  Do you think, if I'm lucky, whatever it is has just stained her glue and she may be okay under the flocking if I chose to deflock her?
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 10, 2018, 08:38:41 PM
Oh wow, that lipstick . . .

There's a good chance she's okay under the flocking.  The layer of glue often prevents stains from getting to the actual body.
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious
Post by: Safflower on July 11, 2018, 05:50:32 AM
What LM said :) You could also try and sun fade her if you don't want to deflock?

It looks like someone tried to pretty her up by adding blush and lipstick plus a diamond resembling Seashell and Bubbles. Phew!
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on July 11, 2018, 06:16:18 AM
🎵Dressed like a dream🎵
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious
Post by: Glitter Yolk on July 11, 2018, 07:15:45 AM
Wow. That would be amazing if deflocking rid her of all those stains and made her like new! I hope it does, if you go for it.
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious
Post by: NightGliderSA on July 12, 2018, 02:05:15 AM
Oh ouch! Have you tried washing her yet? As you will need to get her wet to deflock anyway you don't have much to lose in trying to wash 'it' out first.
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious
Post by: Gator on July 12, 2018, 03:15:16 PM
Yes, washing didn't help.  Then, trying to deflock, it looks like the lipstick on her lips, its just that on these spots it looks like somehow it got under, and not on, the flocking.
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious
Post by: Gator on July 14, 2018, 03:29:30 PM
After we got in the water, our brown spots looked red just like the lipstick on her mouth.
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I've talked about deflocking before, but never got the nerve to actually do it.  Here I've plunged in trying the hot water soak and rub method.  Here is where I decided if must be lipstick, cause it's greasy and smearing around, not coming off.  I think if I had done less rubbing, I would have had less staining later.
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Guys, the soak and rub method, ain't cutting it.  I'll be rubbing for months.  Time for the big guns!  Brought out the acetone.  Immediate results.  Yeah baby!  Most of those red spots gone in minutes.  I wish I started this on her forehead.  From my rubbing earlier, she is going to still have a faint stain.
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However, despite getting good results with acetone in a few minutes, I don't know when I'll finish.  Trying the acetone outdoors, here in Georgia in the Summer, I was getting eaten alive by mosquitos and the humidity here I was pouring sweat.  But so far looks like Scrumptious may get to live!
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious
Post by: reanna-mator on July 14, 2018, 04:02:09 PM
Yeah, deflocking is SUPER tedious if you want to make sure it's done well. I've done a few, and goodness!

But it's so rewarding in the end. I think once you're done you'll be so happy with the results!
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 14, 2018, 04:35:02 PM
She's starting to look better Gator. Can't wait to see her done. 
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious
Post by: NightGliderSA on July 16, 2018, 03:32:45 AM
What an improvement! I'm sure she will look gorgeous when you are done, and perhaps the stain will sunfade out?
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious
Post by: Gator on August 14, 2018, 05:22:05 PM
Help me!  After starting Scrumptious and getting good results, I also started on a Ribbon with thin flocking who had been attacked with lipstick.  So I have two ponies who are almost done, except eyes, symbols and blush.  I was reading on another recent deflocking post about using alcohol on symbols.  Either this isn't working for me, or I'm not trying hard/long enough?  Ribbon's eye hasn't melted off, but the edge of her bottom lashes are pulling loose, as if I tried I could peel her whole eye off.  So I need to finish the job and not lose Ribbon's eye.
Somewhere else said use Jasco, and what I've found online in trying to find Jasco is that it is just a brand of acetone.  So I don't want to use that.
Help?
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious, new question bottom page 1
Post by: Safflower on August 15, 2018, 04:18:44 PM
This person uses Jasco: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83-eT6EGIjk Apart from that I don't know.
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious, new question bottom page 1
Post by: NightGliderSA on August 16, 2018, 12:56:08 AM
I'm really sorry but this has never happened to me so I can't advise. However I will follow the thread so that I can also learn the answer when someone does (hopefully) tell you why this is happening.

I only used soap, 100% acetone and surgical spirits (rubbing alcohol) when deflocking. With the major work being done with hot water, liquid soap and elbow grease. Did you wash your ponies immediately after using any chemicals? Perhaps the chemicals reacted with each other and the vinyl and the paint if you didn't? Or something happened to the ponies in their previous lives to cause this now?
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious, new question bottom page 1
Post by: Gator on August 16, 2018, 03:24:56 AM
Nightglider, that's all I used as well.  And I always kept rinsing with water so the acetone wouldn't stay on long.  My rubbing alcohol was 70%, and I thought maybe it's not strong enough.  I work at an animal hospital, so I checked our alcohol at work to see if it's stronger, but its 70% as well.
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious, new question bottom page 1
Post by: mlp4me on August 16, 2018, 05:44:55 AM
I had a SS Taffy at one time that I had soaked in Oxy. When I jasco'd her to remove the flocking her paint smeared. I've noticed this connection. I have successfully used jasco to deflock many other ponies that I had not oxy soaked. I haven't used oxy on a pony for over a decade...
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious, new question bottom page 1
Post by: Sweet Daes on August 16, 2018, 06:52:56 AM
When I deflocked my Best Wishes I just boiled her in water and scraped with the edge of a dull teaspoon handle. It took 3 hours (though, some of the hard-to-get spots were already bald) and she turned out fine without the use of chemicals.
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious, new question bottom page 1
Post by: Gator on August 18, 2018, 01:04:53 PM
Which Jasco?  This is why I'm confused.  Jasco seems to be a brand of different products.  I hear don't use acetone on symbols, use Jasco, but there is a Jasco acetone. 
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Title: Re: My new Scrumptious, new question bottom page 1
Post by: BlushingBlue on August 18, 2018, 06:45:40 PM
Which Jasco?  This is why I'm confused.  Jasco seems to be a brand of different products.  I hear don't use acetone on symbols, use Jasco, but there is a Jasco acetone. 

If you want to use Jasco, the stuff to get is their "Premium Paint and Epoxy Remover" but be warned that it is pretty nasty.  :X

Nightglider, that's all I used as well.  And I always kept rinsing with water so the acetone wouldn't stay on long.  My rubbing alcohol was 70%, and I thought maybe it's not strong enough.  I work at an animal hospital, so I checked our alcohol at work to see if it's stronger, but its 70% as well.

I wonder if rinsing her so often is what made her eye paint go funny? Since ponies are porous, if you have acetone soaking on the vinyl and then follow that up with water, that might actually drive some of the acetone deeper while rinsing. If she absorbed acetone into the area around her eye, it might have ever so slightly dissolved the paint from underneath, loosening it from the vinyl. Just a guess. :shrug: Either way, it's generally easier and safer to remove excess acetone via evaporation. Although that may be a big ask if you're doing this outside in Georgia! Hopefully you have a fan!

As far as alcohol, 70% is plenty strong for disinfecting and whatnot, but for glue removal you're going to want 90%. Anything less is probably going to be pretty frustrating. (It's too late now, but as a future FYI, rubbing alcohol is also a very common remedy for lipstick stains, although be sure to blot, not rub! ;))
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious deflocked finally. New pic.
Post by: Gator on August 26, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
Thank you BlushingBlue on the kind of Jasco.  I was very nervous but it worked!  It didn't even further damage Ribbon's injured right eye.  With a little white paint she'll be right as rain.  I can't wait to display her with her non-bbe baby! 
Sadly, after deflocking Scrumptious, she has a few brown age spots.  And I'm still kicking myself for rubbing the lipstick into her plastic on her forehead, but she'll display well too!
Here they are:
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Title: Re: My new Scrumptious deflocked finally. New pic.
Post by: glitterball on August 26, 2018, 09:22:07 AM
Ooh, they are looking wonderful!  :lovey: :lovey:
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious deflocked finally. New pic.
Post by: Safflower on August 26, 2018, 09:24:05 AM
They look gorgeous! Glad you are getting them finished :)
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious deflocked finally. New pic.
Post by: BlushingBlue on August 26, 2018, 09:39:48 AM
Congrats! :biggrin: They look great!
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious deflocked finally. New pic.
Post by: Noasar on August 26, 2018, 02:36:07 PM
They look great! I wish we could get Jasco here in the UK, it would make deflocking so much easier.
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious deflocked finally. New pic.
Post by: Dreamchaser on August 26, 2018, 11:05:52 PM
I have deflocked several ponies and used the onyx acetone nail ponish remover from Walmart. I just tried to be extra careful around the paint. Looks beautiful, I have always wanted to deflock a Scrumptious!
Title: Re: My new Scrumptious deflocked finally. New pic.
Post by: NightGliderSA on August 27, 2018, 01:47:56 AM
They both look so gorgeous, congratulations on overcoming the peeling paint challenge! I can't wait to see them ready for display.
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