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Title: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Zapper on October 01, 2018, 01:58:21 PM: Imagine you are suddenly in charge of MLP via dark magic or a magic lamp and everyone at Hasbro has to do your bidding.

How would you design the next gen of ponies?
Would there be a cartoon show, movies? What types of toys would you create?

Here is the only catch: the genie/witch/wizard does not allow you to just copy your favorite gen :lol:
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on October 01, 2018, 02:10:27 PM: Toy wise I would create more background ponies, and various non ponies, that would be great. Also I would mix the color schemes and various gimmicks, also more singles as well or double packs.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: CloudyGlow on October 01, 2018, 02:11:30 PM: Just thinking off the top of my head, I'd like new characters or characters from G1 (Not my favorite gen so it's allowed). Less modern buildings, more high fantasy or magical girl and more horse behavior. There is a cartoon show where the style is different from FiM but still simple (so that I can replicate it in Adobe Illustrator). Hooves will be present and visible on all ponies please. There will be animated movies, but no celebrity characters (I love Capper and company but seriously would have rather focused on ponies we know). And the toys are all as accurate to show as possible. But we still have brushables (it's just maybe their hair is styled a little more to match the ponies). Blind bags are banned. From now on you always know what you get. Lore is priority on the show. The writers must all strictly adhere to a show bible that lays out everything about the world.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on October 01, 2018, 02:12:36 PM: I would make the main characters the hardest ones to come by as toys instead of the ones being released 47 billion times. Then that would make them more special.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: hyenacub on October 01, 2018, 02:16:03 PM: I would definitely do it more like the G1s. Not 8 million versions of the same pony. two or three, tops, like the so softs or whatver. They'd all be different. And lots of babies. : D
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Taffeta on October 01, 2018, 02:18:20 PM: Originality of character.

I don't mind if they look very equine or if they don't - maybe somewhere inbetween - I am flexible on the style so long as the line has a nice range of characters, colours, themes. I am a G1 person but I don't want any other generation to try and duplicate G1, so that's not a problem for me.

I would like to see unicorns, pegasus, earth. I don't want alicorns. That's too much for one pony. I would like aquatic ponies of some kind, and I don't mind expanding the zebra theme. I don't really want other mythical species or other not-equine related stuff in the line, though.

Brushables only. Maybe plush. No collector models, funko style stuff, nothing like that. The funko things really annoy me a lot. Toys, not merch, too. Merch is fine. Toys first. Also, maybe some thought to the hair in terms of types. Things like tinsel are fine, but tinsel can get ratty and it's not the only option. Hair doesn't always have to be trailing on the ground. I don't mind some ponies having curls and some straight hair. (That's a theme in G1 and G2, with variety of hair from factory...and G3 had a variety of lengths, albeit on an extreme scale).

TV series - only if it's going to incorporate a plot rather than moral lessons that don't work. I am wary about a proper TV series because I don't believe in core cast dominating the line. But specials in the line of what MH did would work. They had the balance quite nice in my view...with a few core but not every core character released in every line and plenty of other new stuff alongside for variety. Books, comics, etc = the same. Only if they are supplementing a core toy line, not replacing it.

Also like MH, it would be nice for the line to go back to the roots of backcard stories (MH had diaries) to give the pony character, not just a name. It's not like the kid HAS to follow that character, but it's nice for the kids who like stories and for kids to read a short little story about their pony toy to 'get to know them' without needing to watch a TV show or buy a book.

I don't want to see repeats of any character that has already been released in any generation. None. I am fine with the Retros as retros. I am done with rinse and repeat. And the end of Dash and Pinkie cannot come fast enough for this pony fan.

Oh yeah! One more thing. No store exclusives. No American exclusives. Everything available everywhere. No limited editions, no mail orders, nothing like that. Just sets on store shelves in all places without prejudice.

And countries where English is not the native language should not be made to put up with English names if they have better alternatives in their own language :)
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 01, 2018, 02:26:17 PM: Toys:
G3 sized
Horsey
Good quality
Variety in characters/colors/poses/symbols
Mares
Foals
Males with normal length, non-troll doll hair.
Every species ever made in toy form
Families
Playsets
No focus on core groups at all
Return of old and new gimmicks
Widespread release
Playset characters can be sold seperately
The return of Charity Ponies and MO Ponies

Show:
No focus on core group
No fan pandering
For kids
Adventure
Fantasy
Mixture of humor/action/drama/slice of life
Traditional animation
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Ragamuffin on October 01, 2018, 02:26:59 PM: Toywise I'd like detailed CMs like G3, lots of unique colour combinations (no more orange with pink/purple hair, PLEASE!!!), and lots of accessories, like G2. Backcard stories like G1 or at the very least a sentence or two about the pony. I'd like it to be very similar to G3 in short, but not a carbon copy. ;) I wouldn't want to do "blind boxes"/bags but thats the In thing atm so I don't think I'd have a choice if I want money. :drunk: No tiny molded figures like blindbags, and enough playsets... playsets that aren't WALLS! G2 had some really good playsets. Also a healthy cycle of new ponies unlike Someone has been doing for the past 10 years.

For the cartoon I'd prefer something handrawn and expressive. Puppets are cheaper but if you go with puppets you have to make the design more simple and I'm not willing to do that. :P CGI/3D could work maybe. I agree something with a big universe and lore is good but enough planning to make a bible is extremely important. FiM didn't think things through (it wasn't supposed to go on for THIS long!) and you can tell. :whistle:
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: StrawberrySundance on October 01, 2018, 02:34:37 PM: I'd make the toys quite large (maybe a bit bigger than G1) rather than small and dainty, which means more detail and more hair to brush and style! There'd also be a range of poses and with each pose comes a different set of eyes (e.g. Diva pose- flirty eyes with lots of eyelashes, cheery/happy pose- big round eyes that are filled with excitement and happiness etc.) (Wings from G3 would be back!)
There would also be human characters again ( like back in G1) and you would be able to fully pose them and there would be different clothing to buy them as well as the ponies. Their symbols would be presented in a range of ways (3D, glitter, scented, different material etc.) to fit with the pony's personality/name. I'd also include accessories that would fit the character. 3D playsets (not ones that are like half a castle :mad: Ones that could be folded up)are a must and Bling bags are banned XD
Villains would be human, dragons or ponies too. (remember those witches in the 1986 MLP movie? Bring them back, I've always got 'Nothing can stop the smooze' in my head XD Duck inside! Better run and hide!
Nothing can stop the smooze!)

The cartoons wouldn't have main characters to focus on, every pony would get their turn to star in an episode so everyone feels included and each pony/character could be developed.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on October 01, 2018, 02:48:33 PM: Not sure how I would make the ponies themselves look, maybe something in between G1 and G3? But I would definitely give it a lot of pony variety, and pose variety. Make more unique color schemes. And have simple gimmicks as well as more out there ones, just like how G1 had both simple and more wild gimmicks. I'd like to make the ponies have more detailed symbols such as the ones that G3 ponies have. The size... probably G3 size, but if it were to be possible to do G1 size without making the ponies cost too much, that'd be awesome too! I wouldn't want to make the normal ponies too much bigger than that, because too large and it'd be too hard to be able to display and store them all in a good amount of space! Playsets would be more along the lines of the previous generations, as opposed to G4's approach of making playsets the very front of a building.... And more than just castles, too! I'd make some house playsets too, ponies need more houses! I'd bring back all the previous types of ponies, aside from the obvious and most basic types beyond earth, unicorn, and pegasus. I'd have seaponies (perhaps different types resembling both G1's seahorse kind and G4's mermaid type!), flutter ponies, wingers, breezies, all of them back! And pony friends, too, perhaps dolls similar to Megan and Molly as well.

Not sure what I'd really want for the cartoon, but I would like for there to be one, as G2's lack of a cartoon still bugs me. What I do know is that I would want any remotely important character who appears in the cartoon to receive a toy. Why FiM introduces so many characters and then Hasbro doesn't make toys of the majority of them baffles me considering it's a cartoon made to sell toys, so I wouldn't want that mistake to be made again (and it's not just FiM being guilty of this, I wish Danny from MLP 'n Friends and the other Tales characters outside of the seven main girls had gotten toys back in G1, and that G3 Spike had gotten a toy).

Edit- back to the toys, some gimmicks I would definitely bring back would be So Softs, Twinkles Eyes, Twice As Fancy, Sparkle Ponies, pearlized ponies, gradient bodies, cascading symbols, 3D symbols, and super long hair.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Taffeta on October 01, 2018, 03:20:57 PM: Definitely no humans for me. Dolls in the context of EQG I can deal with, but I never did really like Megan being involved with the ponies. So no humans in my pony world.

Also terminology. Let's get rid of cutesy words for things. No more everypony, cutie mark, etc. But I do want ponies to have symbols. They can even have deep and meaningful lore related to them. Just not call them silly words like 'cutie'.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 01, 2018, 03:22:50 PM: Quote from: Taffeta on October 01, 2018, 03:20:57 PM
Definitely no humans for me. Dolls in the context of EQG I can deal with, but I never did really like Megan being involved with the ponies. So no humans in my pony world.

Also terminology. Let's get rid of cutesy words for things. No more everypony, cutie mark, etc. But I do want ponies to have symbols. They can even have deep and meaningful lore related to them. Just not call them silly words like 'cutie'.

I forgot about the no idiotically cutesy words. Absolutely this. No stupid words.

Also, how about how some actual creative place-names?

I'll pass on the lore. Its too restrictive.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: hyenacub on October 01, 2018, 03:28:21 PM: I don't mind cutie-mark being specifically for G4s. It's a play on "beauty mark". But I don't refer to it myself for the most part. And "everypony" makes sense enough from the show's perspective, where it's all ponies, for the most part, in those areas. It's regional.

I wouldn't call the stupid, but...not for me.

But I agree I would not particularly be quite as cutesy with it. I don't have a problem with it, but being old school, it's not my thing.

I do like my puns, though.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Carrehz on October 01, 2018, 03:47:32 PM: CHARACTER VARIETY. Have your main characters, sure, but give us new characters alongside them!!! MH did this really well, IMO (pre-G2 anyway). More boy ponies and more species variety too - bring back flutters, sea ponies, etc! And more poses, too.

No preferences on the cartoon except, go back to the line's roots of being toy-focused. I hate how FiM "leads" the brand nowadays. Oh and definitely agree w/ no silly cutesy-wootsy talk. A couple of puns here and there, sure, but "everypony" needs to go. (Not at all a fan of "cutie mark" either, never have been, but I guess it makes sense from a marketing point of view, guess Hasbro didn't think "symbol" sounded as marketable and/or couldn't trademark it; that's fair enough. But "everypony", just, no. Ugh.)
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Sweet Daes on October 01, 2018, 03:56:02 PM: I want more diverse worldbuilding with non-ponies. Seaponies/hippogriffs and Kirin (AND others, but avoiding spoilers) came in way too late. I also think it takes away from the world to have the seaponies be the hippogriffs. The two should have been separate. In a lot of ways, I see it as lazy writing since hippogriffs aren't ponies, and the only "seaponies" that we see are of "the usual" characters. It's boring.

With having the Changlings, Griffins, Yaks, Cat-people and whatever those of the Storm King's army are, it took until S8 to see them be more integrated into the known world. I dislike that.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Ponyfan on October 01, 2018, 06:00:46 PM: So many great ideas. :) I agree with a lot of them. I don’t mind “everypony” as much as “every creature” but not everything needs to be a play on words or a pun. I also think “cutie mark” should go. It sounds silly and I think symbol is a better term. I would go back to ponies just having symbols and lose the emphasis on them being earned and part of a pony’s destiny.

I would also eliminate one shot characters that appear, play an important role for one episode and disappear. I loved the G4 MLP movie but it left some unanswered questions with Capper and Captain Celeano and her crew. If a character has an important part in the cartoon in an episode then they would have a recurring role in later episodes.

The toys would have more variety and the show would not dictate what toys ended up on the shelves. There would be more gimmicks and a wider variety of poses, sizes and types of ponies such as adults, babies etc.. playsets would be real playsets and not just one sided/one play area.

Also no more blind bag ponies or Busy Book ponies.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: BubbleTea on October 01, 2018, 06:52:06 PM: Things I'd do:

-Ponies that actually resemble ponies
-more male characters
-building with at least 3 walls and planty of space inside
-updated dream castle
-marketed to both boys and girls
-introducing coat patterns such as appaloosa spots and pinto splotches
-fun accessories
-fabric pony wear
-pony roller skates
-tack?
-Megan doll dressed how she looked in Rescue at midnight
-Bringing back Seashell, Bubbles, sunbeam, gusty, g3 minty, applejack, firefly, ti-tac-toe, fizzy, TE bright eyes, alphabittle, ice crystal, tex, and wig wam

Those are just some ideas i have
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: BlackCurtains on October 01, 2018, 07:12:41 PM: I'd just like a toy that looks like a ~~horse~~ pony.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Ragamuffin on October 01, 2018, 07:38:42 PM: Quote from: BubbleTea on October 01, 2018, 06:52:06 PM
-fabric pony wear

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I don't get the "oh, plastic clothes are easier for kids to put on" argument, G3s had little elastic tutus! What was so difficult about that!! You just slide it over their legs and there you go!! With plastic clothes, it looks bad and its so annoying to put on because you have those little holes you have to fasten to lock it in place, and if you don't it doesn't stay put!!!! Also, plastic SCARVES? Over fabric ones?? Are you telling me children don't know how to tie simple knots?? You could sew it in place with a little string or whatever if you don't want it to come off! It's all inexcusable!! :stressed:
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Mewtwofan1 on October 01, 2018, 09:32:57 PM: I’d create a television series for it, as one of my goals is to create an animated television show. And toys of more characters that aren’t the main cast. Actually, why does the show have to have a main cast? Each episode focuses on a different group of friends, so nobody is strictly the main ponies/creatures! Yes...it is all coming together...
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Mermaid on October 01, 2018, 11:39:42 PM: A VARIETY OF BRUSHABLE CHARACTERS THAT LOOK LIKE EQUINES THAT ARE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY.
In all seriousness, I’d really love to see some creativity breathed back into the line. I do not mind a core cast that gets released and rereleased, I understand that the main characters need to be available at any given time. What I do not understand is why we can’t have two or three new friends released with each wave?

I’d love a television show that is more slice of life with an overarching plot. Nothing too serious though, just ponies going about their business and everyday life. Solving problems with friends, fighting evil, overcoming obstacles, daily issues, relationship issues, and challenging themselves and others. Mix tales with g1 and g4. Have them evolved society wise like tales and g4, but still be rustic and simplistic like g1.

I’d like magic to be a less prevelant in every day life. No more carrying things around in a pink bubble just because you can.

I also love the idea of different sentient creatures co-existing in the realm. Things like deer, hippos, sea ponies, cows, griffins, bears, canines, felines, birds, dragons, etc. they could all have their own societies!
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: hyenacub on October 02, 2018, 12:44:40 AM: I think the important qurstion is why we need dark magic for this to happen? Is there something we need to know about th MLP toys? Are they evil? XD

YES Fabric clothing! And more babies and males. And kids who actually sound/look like kids... (thinking of those two colts who ar like...mini sized adult comic relief).
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Shaz on October 02, 2018, 01:47:10 AM: I would not have a TV show! *gasp*
I just feel like a TV show, especially a behemoth like FiM, kind of takes over. It means that the same core characters have to be always available, and also it defines the characters too much and doesn't leave room to make up your own backstories for them.

In my ideal pony line, each character would be released once. Maybe twice if they proved really popular. There'd be LOADS of different characters, unicorns, pegasi, earth ponies, seaponies, mer-ponies etc. They would come with names and a backcard story so that kids would know a bit about them and could choose to either disregard it or build on it in their own games. A bit like how Ty Beanie Babies used to come with a name, a date of birth and a poem. Ponies would of course be full of variety, there would be various gimmicks, and lots of them would come with fun accessories (not just yet another comb!). But there would also be cheaper ponies without any accessories. And packs of accessories that you could buy for the ponies you already have, e.g. a baking accessories set, sport accessories, reading-and-writing type accessories, musical instruments, and so on and so forth.

There would be other lines besides the brushable ponies. There would be Pony Friends, which would consist of zebras, giraffes, deer, dragons, cats, dogs etc etc. Like the ponies they would come with names, a backcard story and accessories.

There would also be Tiny Ponies, which would be like blindbag ponies but without the blind aspect. These small molded ponies would be less expensive than the brushables (the sort of thing you can buy with pocket money and still have some left over) and ideal for kids who like collecting things and/or kids who want to play ponies but aren't fussed about all that hair-brushing. And handy for collectors without much space! There would also be playsets for the Tiny Ponies, including one that looked like a house with lots of windows and could be used to display your collection.

There would also be tons of colouring books, sticker albums, notebooks, activity books etc. There could be an activity book that helps children invent their own land for their ponies to live in: it could ask questions to help them create a world, have a map to fill in, have templates of houses or shops that they can add details to, space to design your own pony, that sort of thing. As you may have guessed, my pony ideas are heavily based on encouraging imagination :). I liked making up stories and creating my own versions of things when I was little.

Now I want these ponies! I hope I didn't make it sound too similar to G1 :).
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Goanna on October 02, 2018, 03:36:33 AM: Hmmm... not sure I have enough ideas for a whole line lol but here's a few things I'd want:

-Shorter hair (I really love how easy G1 hair is to manage. My G3 and G4 ponies on the other hand have hair that touches the ground... which is great for picking up dust and getting tangled -_- )
- Size-wise; a little smaller than G3, but bigger than G4 (maybe the 'small princess' size of G4? like cadance and luna)
-Symbols on both sides. please..
-Equal number of earth,pegasus and unicorn ponies
-More chubby and cute like G1s ;_;
-Green ponies
-Lots of fun waves like glow-in-the-dark ponies, flocked ponies, etc. aka More substantial gimmicks than just a bit of tinsel in the hair lol
-Themed waves again like holiday G3s

Idk what I'd want the show to be haha. I would prefer no humans and... I think this may be an unpopular opinion but I'd prefer fewer non-pony species. It's called My Little Pony. I wanna buy toy horses not dragons or w/e.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: katrine2309 on October 02, 2018, 04:10:00 AM: I would go more back to G1 as well. But perhaps even more focus on Earth ponies being earth-y, unicorns being magical and pegasus being elemental and weather-y.

More focus on various ponies, and not only core. As most others want :P

And I would like to see them less cutesy too, much more horse-like. The toys themselves should be around the size of G1 or G3.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 02, 2018, 05:37:33 AM: Quote from: Ragamuffin on October 01, 2018, 07:38:42 PM
Quote from: BubbleTea on October 01, 2018, 06:52:06 PM
-fabric pony wear

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I don't get the "oh, plastic clothes are easier for kids to put on" argument, G3s had little elastic tutus! What was so difficult about that!! You just slide it over their legs and there you go!! With plastic clothes, it looks bad and its so annoying to put on because you have those little holes you have to fasten to lock it in place, and if you don't it doesn't stay put!!!! Also, plastic SCARVES? Over fabric ones?? Are you telling me children don't know how to tie simple knots?? You could sew it in place with a little string or whatever if you don't want it to come off! It's all inexcusable!! :stressed:

Not to mention plastic can break easier when constantly forced over other hard surfaces.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 02, 2018, 08:44:52 AM: I'd definitely love to see a TV show that's adventure-heavy and more like Gravity falls, but kid friendly of course. Although some characters would be the focus of the show, there would be many characters, both background and main, with toy versions.
Stick to keeping an even ratio of the different types of pony, and release toys of the villains, too. Both modern and olden unicorn tail-styles.
CLOTHING! Lots of ponywear and accessories. Very good quality control and lots of hair colors. Little blurbs on the back of the boxes like G1.
Some "blast from the past" packs featuring popular characters from previous generations that didn't have toys, or weren't widely released.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: banditpony on October 02, 2018, 09:02:04 AM: What *I* personally would love is small, kawaii, and stylized. Like tokidoki style. Lots of glitter, translucency, and gitd.

Otherwise, if we had to stay more horse like, I would like a body like g2 but with a cuter head. (Haha I am not even a fan of g2s soon, not a favorite by any means)
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: poniesthatsparkle on October 02, 2018, 09:25:00 AM: I'd love to return to a chubbier, more horse-like style similar to G1 and G3. I'd also like to see more character variation, variety of color schemes and themes. No more boring Mane 6 copies and more new characters.
I'd also love to see more sets of seasonal ponies like the G3 Winter ponies and Easter ponies.
Bigger toys would be amazing! G4's are just so small. I wouldn't mind paying more for a larger toy. Also, bring back squishy ponies! I love the soft plastic of G1 and would love to have more ponies with it.
And more detailed and spacious playsets as well. The G4 playsets nowadays don't have much creativity or play space. They're more like a way to display your ponies rather than play with them imo.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Sunset on October 02, 2018, 09:30:21 AM: Symbols on both sides *drops mic and walks off stage*
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Taffeta on October 02, 2018, 10:25:50 AM: I agree about 2 side symbols. Though for me, it helps with figuring out which side is display side on a pony who looks forward if it's just on one side ;) xD But I prefer it on both sides.

Agree on the fabric ponywear, if ponywear must happen.

Go back to the idea of one pony having one magical skill. Don't limit this to unicorns, because that's species-ist. Why should they have all the cool tricks? (<---comic brainwashed to be used to pegasus and earth with magic too). If they each have ONE power, and they have to sometimes combine those powers to figure out problems, then fine. And also some of them having magic that isn't useful for world saving, but maybe for other purposes. I think the element of harmony thing is meant to be that but isn't that. In EQG it is more that, because they do each have one power (except Pinkie Pie's is Jubilee from XMen in a party dress but whatever)...

I actually like the idea of a more fantastical realm rather than a modern technological society. I was reading something the other day as prep work for my class and it talked about a legendary time in ancient China where the Phoenix ruled the skies and the Unicorn roamed the lands, but human destruction and intervention pushed them back until both species disappeared forever. Now if that isn't a great basis for a storyline for a fantasy equine toy, with a bit of tweaking, what is?

I dunno if anyone here remembers Farthing Wood, or maybe Watership Down, but with more of the magical/historical/fantastical and less of the diggers and poison.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Carrehz on October 02, 2018, 02:00:07 PM: Quote from: Ragamuffin on October 01, 2018, 07:38:42 PM
Quote from: BubbleTea on October 01, 2018, 06:52:06 PM
-fabric pony wear

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I don't get the "oh, plastic clothes are easier for kids to put on" argument,

Personally I find the plastic clothes to be harder to put on. @_@; I've had a devil of a time trying to figure out FS Sapphire Shores' clothes.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Taffeta on October 02, 2018, 02:04:53 PM: Quote from: Carrehz on October 02, 2018, 02:00:07 PM
Quote from: Ragamuffin on October 01, 2018, 07:38:42 PM
Quote from: BubbleTea on October 01, 2018, 06:52:06 PM
-fabric pony wear

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I don't get the "oh, plastic clothes are easier for kids to put on" argument,

Personally I find the plastic clothes to be harder to put on. @_@; I've had a devil of a time trying to figure out FS Sapphire Shores' clothes.

Think of what they will be like in 20 years time when the plastic starts to perish or go bad. Or less time.

I had a similar problem redressing FS Cadence after a bath.

I mean, I had issues with Champagne and Lace's slippers (they used to end up as berets >.>) as a kid, but I was six. Now I'm 36 and pony dressing is way harder with plastic o.o
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on October 02, 2018, 05:24:53 PM: My dream would be I'd love it if Hasbro would get into the concept of create your own pony. Though clearly,it's probably too difficult and expensive and way out there as far as ideas go. It's more like design your own BJD with wigs and clothing and eyes. But it would be a novel idea for them to try one day. Have fans design ponies or a set of pojnies and send it to the factory and have it actually created for mass production.

I think Lego was doing something similar where people design a lego set and if it gets enough votes the set would make it to production. I may be wrong on that I just seem to remember seeing something online about it.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Ragamuffin on October 02, 2018, 06:13:42 PM: Quote from: KarentheUnicorn on October 02, 2018, 05:24:53 PM

My dream would be I'd love it if Hasbro would get into the concept of create your own pony. Though clearly,it's probably too difficult and expensive and way out there as far as ideas go. It's more like design your own BJD with wigs and clothing and eyes. But it would be a novel idea for them to try one day. Have fans design ponies or a set of pojnies and send it to the factory and have it actually created for mass production.

I think Lego was doing something similar where people design a lego set and if it gets enough votes the set would make it to production. I may be wrong on that I just seem to remember seeing something online about it.

I'm surprised they haven't done something like that before. Back in 2012 they held that "design a pony, and we'll make it!" contest. But only the winner got the one pony. ;(
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 02, 2018, 06:25:02 PM: Quote from: Taffeta on October 02, 2018, 10:25:50 AM
I dunno if anyone here remembers Farthing Wood, or maybe Watership Down, but with more of the magical/historical/fantastical and less of the diggers and poison.
Ahh watership down. This, please!
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on October 02, 2018, 08:35:18 PM: Quote from: KarentheUnicorn on October 02, 2018, 05:24:53 PM

I think Lego was doing something similar where people design a lego set and if it gets enough votes the set would make it to production. I may be wrong on that I just seem to remember seeing something online about it.

LEGO does this regularly... it's their Ideas line! We have *quite* a few Ideas sets... you just need a LEGO VIP account to vote on the Ideas and yes, if they get enough votes, they go into production :)

https://www.lego.com/en-us/ideasproducts/products

We have the Tron set, the Women of NASA set, the Saturn V rocket set, the DeLorean Time Machine (Back to the Future), the Ghostbusters Ecto-1, WALL-E, Doctor Who, the Marble Maze, and the The Beatles Yellow Submarine.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Zapper on October 02, 2018, 11:27:40 PM: Quote from: KarentheUnicorn on October 02, 2018, 05:24:53 PM
My dream would be I'd love it if Hasbro would get into the concept of create your own pony.

Hasbro does/did that with Transformers, sooo...

The female TF Windblade is the famous example. Fans decided on her via a voting system and then Hasbro gave these infos to one of their designers and now she is heavily featured in comics and cartoons and has multiple toys out.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Minty_Magic on October 03, 2018, 01:43:06 AM: Great Ideas so far! :) I hope someone at Hasbro sees this thread, overall there seems to be a pretty strong consensus of please no more mane 6/core 7 :P I completely agree, I want to see variety again!

If I were in charge here are some key points I'd want to see:
Toys:
*Larger sized toys please! Lets go back to the size of G1/G3 ponies that felt good to hold!
*Higher quality manes. No more gross stringy/greasy hair right out of the box!
~on a side note, let's go back to primarily having brushables as the main line! blind bags are fine since those seem to be the
"thing" right now, but make sure most new characters released are done as an actual brushable toy!
*More detailed cutie marks and more markings in general! they're horses after all, let them have spots and blazes, socks, ect
*More gimmicks. If we're going to be re releasing characters at all, make it worth it to the buyer! Let's bring back so softs, twinkle eyes, glitter bodies, pearls, and maybe some new ideas like holographic ponies!
~on the topic of re releasing characters...if a main cast of characters MUST be done then maybe switch them out? Maybe one
wave gets 3/6 mane cast plus new friends and the second wave gets 3/6 mane cast plus even more new friends? It may feel
less overwhelming this way.
*Make 'em chunky! I don't want to see anymore noodle legs that hardly support the weight of the head! Different body types in general would be fun to see again!
*Bring back bangs and forelocks! Make styling the hair fun!
*Cute accessories! Fabric clothes should make a comeback, along with unique molded items! Enough with reusing stuff from G3!
* Make 3D playsets again! No one wants a castle that's just a thin facade! You could just play with the box pieces at that point! Again, make it worth the buyer's money!
*Come up with some new names! We don't need Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Rarity, or any other re used names showing up again! It's easier to accept and embrace new designs when they feel like whole new characters!
Show:
*I'd like to see a show again, but not a show that drives the toyline. The toyline should be driving the show. It's an advertisement either way, lets see a rotating cast of characters!
*A running TV series is good for keeping a running interest, but maybe it'd be kind of nice to just go back to the occasional special? You could invest more time and money into a few scattered projects rather than having to do a full season of episodes every year!
*Have a group of recurring characters, but work the storyline so that they can meet lots of new friends in their adventures! (seriously, why does a princess of friendship have hardly any friends outside her main group??)
*Less Action/adventure based and more slice of life would be ideal
*Focus on just ponies/equine types. I'm not really interested in other creatures like dragons and such, especially if there's hardly any chance they will get a toy to match their appearance!
*PLEASE no more dumb puns and weird phrasing. (especially when naming towns. Las Pegasus and Manehattan are so painful.)
*Let other groups besides unicorns use magic! Or make unicorn magic less powerful, right now it feels so unbalanced!
*More of a fantasy setting, I don't like how modern the world feels right now and how many real world ties there are.
*NO INTERACTION WITH FANDOM
~It's fantastic people are enthusiastic about the show! And an occasional nod is fantastic but no more letting fandom dictate
characters and the overall tone of the show!
*More detailed character models would be nice! Along with a move away from flash puppets to something more fluid

I know I'm echoing a lot of what's been said, buy hopefully I threw something new in there! I really like the idea of a design a pony...it seems like since other toylines are doing a similar project it could be a feasible idea!
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 05:25:46 AM: Quote from: tailrustedtealeaf on October 02, 2018, 06:25:02 PM
Quote from: Taffeta on October 02, 2018, 10:25:50 AM
I dunno if anyone here remembers Farthing Wood, or maybe Watership Down, but with more of the magical/historical/fantastical and less of the diggers and poison.
Ahh watership down. This, please!

O.o ok I'm only familiar with the book and movie, but to me if you cross watership down and ponies... I just see.. uh.. bloodiness.
Snares, bullets, evil general woundwart...

All the world will be your enemy.......
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2018, 05:39:12 AM: Quote from: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 05:25:46 AM
Quote from: tailrustedtealeaf on October 02, 2018, 06:25:02 PM
Quote from: Taffeta on October 02, 2018, 10:25:50 AM
I dunno if anyone here remembers Farthing Wood, or maybe Watership Down, but with more of the magical/historical/fantastical and less of the diggers and poison.
Ahh watership down. This, please!

O.o ok I'm only familiar with the book and movie, but to me if you cross watership down and ponies... I just see.. uh.. bloodiness.
Snares, bullets, evil general woundwart...

All the world will be your enemy.......

Not quite what I meant ;) a little too literal...

I meant more ponies struggling to protect their environment from an encroaching enemy humanoid race.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 05:52:08 AM: Quote from: Taffeta on October 03, 2018, 05:39:12 AM
Quote from: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 05:25:46 AM
Quote from: tailrustedtealeaf on October 02, 2018, 06:25:02 PM
Quote from: Taffeta on October 02, 2018, 10:25:50 AM
I dunno if anyone here remembers Farthing Wood, or maybe Watership Down, but with more of the magical/historical/fantastical and less of the diggers and poison.
Ahh watership down. This, please!

O.o ok I'm only familiar with the book and movie, but to me if you cross watership down and ponies... I just see.. uh.. bloodiness.
Snares, bullets, evil general woundwart...

All the world will be your enemy.......

Not quite what I meant ;) a little too literal...

I meant more ponies struggling to protect their environment from an encroaching enemy humanoid race.
Haha I mean I figured as much. But that's the imagine that popped in my head.

I loved that movie as a kid, and after that the book..
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Ponyfan on October 03, 2018, 06:43:48 AM: More things I'd like to see:

All types of ponies having some kind of magic, not just unicorns and unicorns not automatically using magic to open doors or hold things.

I like to think of G1's Dream Valley as a huge place and that the ponies live in one small part of it meaning there are many more places, creatures and secrets to discover. I'd to see something like that in the next generation of ponies but not where everyone lives in seperate lands if that makes sense.

Also no ponies with deer ears

Ponyfan
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: glitterball on October 03, 2018, 10:52:43 AM: Hmm let's think...

going back to the original concept of a toy that can be easily held by a child and styled, I would opt for a G1-sized pony.

Style? Anything so long as it is pretty :lol: for example, a small version of how current Barbie fantasy ponies look like - with pretty eyes and long, equine faces. Brushable manes and tails, of course! Above all, they need to be of very good quality.

Nice accessories e.g. bridle, saddle, blanket, jumps, troughs, rosettes, cups. As kids, a bunch of us would play gymkhanas with our g1s.

Combs, ribbons, hair slides, hats for the ponies. Maybe bring back pony shoes?

Special releases that glow in the dark, are glittered etc.

Something that encourages play & creativity in the very young but also appeals to older kids.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Miniature Sheep on October 03, 2018, 11:20:20 AM: I'd just like to see really nice, dreamy pony vibes - a cute, unapologetically flamboyant art style (curly hair, sparkles, swirls, rainbows, glitter, stars - throw the fabulous kitchen sink at it!!!); gimmicks into infinity and plenty of variety with characters, poses and colours.
No blind bags, no mysteries. A surprise extra toy in a set of characters is fine, because that is a nice bit of fun, but when you're literally presented with a package and no idea of what character/s you're getting whatsoever, especially when you want a particular character, then that's just kind of naff.
Can't really speak for what I'd like to see in a show, as I've never really but up on any of the iterations thereof... and I'm guessing that stop motion animated ponies is probably a bit of a tall order. :lol:
Oh and books and comics, the more the merrier!
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 11:24:53 AM: Quote from: Miniature Sheep on October 03, 2018, 11:20:20 AM
I'd just like to see really nice, dreamy pony vibes - a cute, unapologetically flamboyant art style (curly hair, sparkles, swirls, rainbows, glitter, stars - throw the fabulous kitchen sink at it!!!); gimmicks into infinity and plenty of variety with characters, poses and colours.
No blind bags, no mysteries. A surprise extra toy in a set of characters is fine, because that is a nice bit of fun

;o; this sounds so perfect.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2018, 11:44:24 AM: You know what would be a neat gimmick? Mystery Babies. I mean like how Breyer does it. The parents are in plain view, but the baby is hidden behind a cardboard barn door and has mixed traits from both parents.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 11:54:45 AM: Quote from: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2018, 11:44:24 AM
You know what would be a neat gimmick? Mystery Babies. I mean like how Breyer does it. The parents are in plain view, but the baby is hidden behind a cardboard barn door and has mixed traits from both parents.

They shouldn't drop out of a trap door from the belly? XD
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Ragamuffin on October 03, 2018, 11:59:38 AM: Quote from: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 11:24:53 AM
Quote from: Miniature Sheep on October 03, 2018, 11:20:20 AM
I'd just like to see really nice, dreamy pony vibes - a cute, unapologetically flamboyant art style (curly hair, sparkles, swirls, rainbows, glitter, stars - throw the fabulous kitchen sink at it!!!); gimmicks into infinity and plenty of variety with characters, poses and colours.
No blind bags, no mysteries. A surprise extra toy in a set of characters is fine, because that is a nice bit of fun

;o; this sounds so perfect.

I love this!!!!!! This would be my ideal generation, if Hasbro was catering specifically to me ;) I love cutesy and girly ponies, but for playsets I LOVE the "gold-and-gemstones" aesthetic or whatever you wanna call it that Filly has going on.
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Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Miniature Sheep on October 03, 2018, 12:29:54 PM: Quote from: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 11:54:45 AM
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2018, 11:44:24 AM
You know what would be a neat gimmick? Mystery Babies. I mean like how Breyer does it. The parents are in plain view, but the baby is hidden behind a cardboard barn door and has mixed traits from both parents.

They shouldn't drop out of a trap door from the belly? XD

:haha: That is an amazing mental image, playing with a pony like "Ooh, what's this?!" and suddenly there's a random tiny horse out of nowhere.

Quote from: Ragamuffin on October 03, 2018, 11:59:38 AM
Quote from: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 11:24:53 AM
Quote from: Miniature Sheep on October 03, 2018, 11:20:20 AM
I'd just like to see really nice, dreamy pony vibes - a cute, unapologetically flamboyant art style (curly hair, sparkles, swirls, rainbows, glitter, stars - throw the fabulous kitchen sink at it!!!); gimmicks into infinity and plenty of variety with characters, poses and colours.
No blind bags, no mysteries. A surprise extra toy in a set of characters is fine, because that is a nice bit of fun

;o; this sounds so perfect.

I love this!!!!!! This would be my ideal generation, if Hasbro was catering specifically to me ;) I love cutesy and girly ponies, but for playsets I LOVE the "gold-and-gemstones" aesthetic or whatever you wanna call it that Filly has going on.
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!!!
Wow, that is a really gorgeous playset - such a glamorous vibe! :D
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2018, 01:17:20 PM: Quote from: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 11:54:45 AM
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2018, 11:44:24 AM
You know what would be a neat gimmick? Mystery Babies. I mean like how Breyer does it. The parents are in plain view, but the baby is hidden behind a cardboard barn door and has mixed traits from both parents.

They shouldn't drop out of a trap door from the belly? XD

:lmao:
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2018, 01:20:15 PM: Quote from: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2018, 01:17:20 PM
Quote from: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 11:54:45 AM
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2018, 11:44:24 AM
You know what would be a neat gimmick? Mystery Babies. I mean like how Breyer does it. The parents are in plain view, but the baby is hidden behind a cardboard barn door and has mixed traits from both parents.

They shouldn't drop out of a trap door from the belly? XD

:lmao:

The dread horror of repeating the Missile Launcher that is Mummy Pony O.O

I mean they kind of did that with Surprise Twins. The surprise being whether or not your eye gets poked out by the infants' first flight...
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2018, 01:51:42 PM: Quote from: Taffeta on October 03, 2018, 01:20:15 PM
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2018, 01:17:20 PM
Quote from: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 11:54:45 AM
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2018, 11:44:24 AM
You know what would be a neat gimmick? Mystery Babies. I mean like how Breyer does it. The parents are in plain view, but the baby is hidden behind a cardboard barn door and has mixed traits from both parents.

They shouldn't drop out of a trap door from the belly? XD

:lmao:

The dread horror of repeating the Missile Launcher that is Mummy Pony O.O

I mean they kind of did that with Surprise Twins. The surprise being whether or not your eye gets poked out by the infants' first flight...

Sounds like there is a personal story attatched to that one Taf. :lol: Care to share? :shifty:
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2018, 01:55:21 PM: Quote from: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2018, 01:51:42 PM
Quote from: Taffeta on October 03, 2018, 01:20:15 PM
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2018, 01:17:20 PM
Quote from: banditpony on October 03, 2018, 11:54:45 AM
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on October 03, 2018, 11:44:24 AM
You know what would be a neat gimmick? Mystery Babies. I mean like how Breyer does it. The parents are in plain view, but the baby is hidden behind a cardboard barn door and has mixed traits from both parents.

They shouldn't drop out of a trap door from the belly? XD

:lmao:

The dread horror of repeating the Missile Launcher that is Mummy Pony O.O

I mean they kind of did that with Surprise Twins. The surprise being whether or not your eye gets poked out by the infants' first flight...

Sounds like there is a personal story attatched to that one Taf. :lol: Care to share? :shifty:

I have a clumsy sister who rather enthusiastically opened ponies as a kid. Nuff said?
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: goddessofpeep on October 03, 2018, 02:47:52 PM: Oh how I love that Mummy Pony with the fetus launcher belly! I got mine a few years ago. I'd never seen it work in person until I had my own in hand, and boy was I surprised how fast that projectile can go! Though I didn't get a really good story to go with my first attempt at pony launching. My "horrifically dangerous UK toy" story goes to the Red Dwarf Starbug set. It's got a missile launcher feature("launch probe"), and I noticed that it REALLY works when I originally was messing with it. The "probe" flew across the largest room in the house and hit the wall with a smack the first time I tried it. I had the good sense to point it way from myself that first time. I handed it to my husband when he got home to show it off, and *just* as I was telling him to be careful with the missile feature, he pushed the button. He launched that probe right into his balls at point blank range.
I didn't know he could make those kinds of sounds. I did warn him!

What is it with UK toys?
:p

As for answering the question - If I could make the next generation, I'd do completely away with the whole Core 7/Mane 6 concept. No more repeated ponies! All new ponies! All the time! And lots of accessories. Good accessories too, not just the same boring things repeated over and over. And real cloth clothes - no more snap on garbage. Due to space issues, I did like the G4's size(though I know that's not popular), so I'd go with small again if the choice was up to me. Though the #1 thing would be the no Core 7/Mane 6 garbage. Anything else would be gravy!
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2018, 02:53:28 PM: Quote from: goddessofpeep on October 03, 2018, 02:47:52 PM

What is it with UK toys?
:p
We aim to maim ;)
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Sweet Daes on October 04, 2018, 07:04:41 AM: Quote from: Minty_Magic on October 03, 2018, 01:43:06 AM
*NO INTERACTION WITH FANDOM
~It's fantastic people are enthusiastic about the show! And an occasional nod is fantastic but no more letting fandom dictate
characters and the overall tone of the show!

This is something that I have to disagree with in spades.

Granted, it's a double-edged sword and I can see why it's frustrating from some perspectives, but I think it's over-all good when the fandom is included. It brings the product "home" and makes it much more relatable and more "real" to the fans.

In fact, it was genius of them with G4 to turn it into Slice of Life. They have been able to cleverly hide references to popular fan theories and that is the kind of thing that keeps them engaged. It means that they did their job but the fans sold their product for them- they talked about it and made it relevant. Seriously, any marketing, writing and producing team would be set if they were in that position- the fans made it easy, and it worked then in the favor of the fans that the studio was so open to make the world something that the fans could help create.

While the end result of that can sometimes be a bit awkward, you may actually see more of this coming around in the future, not only here with MLP G4. The idea of "community interaction" has been popularized by Youtubers with their small fan bases, and now there are more syndicated premium TV channel content that are following that example because it makes it more human, more relatable, and, therefore, more profitable.

Being that this was the first time (that I am aware of, anyway- I could be wrong, but this is a prominent example at the least) that any sort of community interaction between the studio's team and the fans happened, it obviously needs a lot more in the way of planning and management to avoid such heavy tonal shifts between episodes, but it is a process that has the potential to be perfected when your producing team is on the right page with each other while keeping that eagerness to please on a leash.

At the least, I do hope that G4 has been a good learning process and any subsequent generations will do it better. This is all one large contributing factor to the fandom being so engrossed in it, and if it's taken away, then it wouldn't have the same magic to such a diverse set of people. The fans would peter off and it wouldn't have the staying power that G4 has gained, and that may have had a negative impact on anything else from here on out.

Fun fact: This community interaction is something that Hasbro should pay attention to. This is the face-forward reason to show the studio why it's important for character diversity, and that would translate well to the toys. They are missing out on a lot of $$$$ because the toy line was made of such light materials that shipping the toys costs more than manufacturing them (such as, seeing repeats of the mane 6 in "The Movie" playset packs).

tl;dr: I'd continue this as a marketing strategy for my own generation, myself.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 04, 2018, 07:22:32 AM: Quote from: goddessofpeep on October 03, 2018, 02:47:52 PM
Oh how I love that Mummy Pony with the fetus launcher belly! I got mine a few years ago. I'd never seen it work in person until I had my own in hand, and boy was I surprised how fast that projectile can go! Though I didn't get a really good story to go with my first attempt at pony launching. My "horrifically dangerous UK toy" story goes to the Red Dwarf Starbug set. It's got a missile launcher feature("launch probe"), and I noticed that it REALLY works when I originally was messing with it. The "probe" flew across the largest room in the house and hit the wall with a smack the first time I tried it. I had the good sense to point it way from myself that first time. I handed it to my husband when he got home to show it off, and *just* as I was telling him to be careful with the missile feature, he pushed the button. He launched that probe right into his balls at point blank range.
I didn't know he could make those kinds of sounds. I did warn him!

What is it with UK toys?
:p

As for answering the question - If I could make the next generation, I'd do completely away with the whole Core 7/Mane 6 concept. No more repeated ponies! All new ponies! All the time! And lots of accessories. Good accessories too, not just the same boring things repeated over and over. And real cloth clothes - no more snap on garbage. Due to space issues, I did like the G4's size(though I know that's not popular), so I'd go with small again if the choice was up to me. Though the #1 thing would be the no Core 7/Mane 6 garbage. Anything else would be gravy!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: At the Red Star Missile Launcher!

GoddessofPeep If it's not a hassle, could we get a video of Mummy Missile Launcher and twins in action pretty please?
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Zapper on October 04, 2018, 07:32:32 AM: Quote from: Sweet Daes on October 04, 2018, 07:04:41 AM
tl;dr: I'd continue this as a marketing strategy for my own generation, myself.

I would also do that for my gen, just not the way they did it with FiM.
My gen wouldn't be geared towards nerds but kids, so any fan theories or characters that would come from adults I would straight up ignore.
I would pay attention to what kids want and what characters and stories they respond to.
I would never bring in internet memes and avoid real people lookalikes in order not to date the show too much.

For the adult market I would introduce a Legacy Line that creates repros and special collectors items for older fans and multi gen households where kids are aware of older MLP due to their parents or siblings.
I would also keep up liscensing out to other companies to create crossovers with my gen. Similar to what Hasbro does right now. Except I would not limit these liscenses to a few characters (Purple/Pink/Blue syndrome) but all that prove to be popular.
Same with the Legacy Line that would honor more characters than just the first few G1s.

Merch wouldn't repeat the same characters, either. I would employ "taste watchers" who observe online how fans interact with the brand and what they wish for. Instead of the same shirt with Rainbow ponies on I would follow trends and gear the look and characters towards that. I would also keep supporting conventions with exclusives like Hasbro used to do.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Taffeta on October 04, 2018, 09:37:59 AM: Quote from: Zapper on October 04, 2018, 07:32:32 AM
Quote from: Sweet Daes on October 04, 2018, 07:04:41 AM
tl;dr: I'd continue this as a marketing strategy for my own generation, myself.

I would also do that for my gen, just not the way they did it with FiM.
My gen wouldn't be geared towards nerds but kids, so any fan theories or characters that would come from adults I would straight up ignore.
I would pay attention to what kids want and what characters and stories they respond to.
I would never bring in internet memes and avoid real people lookalikes in order not to date the show too much.

I agree with this. I don't see a problem interacting with fans. I see one being influenced by fans. It is the rot of many a fandom when the fans start to influence what goes on in the bigger picture. I had to listen to much complaining about the impact of fandom on Harry Potter some years ago from my former flatmate and good friend xD and it's not the only thing. Bleach was utterly ruined by pandering to a small subsection of the fandom, which ultimately killed the manga completely...although in the case of that one they tried to pander to the target audience by stereotypically throwing in a ton of fights and forgetting to link any of this with actual plot...so everyone basically stopped reading it, instead of it just not being the top shounen manga any more. Don't even get me started on fans in the Jem community either :/

My point being that toy lines and concepts and stories are there to be created by creators, not by fans. They are there to inspire fans to draw pictures, write stories, create fan media. But that fan media etc is not there to influence the actual core concept. It's there as a base to inspire other imagination. Its not a vehicle for a subset of a fandom's ego, which is what has basically derailed parts of G4.

But G1 interacted with the fandom at the child level. There was the fan club in various countries. In the UK at least the comic had a letters page and for a while featured stories written by the readers, as well as photos of people's collections. Our club also had the nameless baby who we adopted and then had help to care for, and kids were encouraged to write into the club to share the names, the ideas, anything else regarding this.

Obviously that was paperbased and snailmail because it was the 1980s. But having a (moderated) web space or some kind of digital equivalent in which the toys and the people collecting them can interact around them is good. Having the toy or the product in general pander to the fandom is bad. If you can't write and create your own concept without constantly needing to be shored up by a bunch of people whose chief aim in life is to create memes to spam their friends, then you really need a reboot. At least in my opinion.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on October 04, 2018, 01:43:37 PM: A less humanoid world; houses would be more like elaborate stables, utensils designed for use by ponies (no cups with finger sized handles - what's up with that?!), etc. And lots of different body types. Mystery storylines.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Zapper on October 04, 2018, 01:51:59 PM: Quote from: DreamvalleyMLP on October 04, 2018, 01:43:37 PM
A less humanoid world; houses would be more like elaborate stables, utensils designed for use by ponies (no cups with finger sized handles - what's up with that?!)

Good point. I always thought Tales was weird with ponies wearing bikini tops, but the cup thing in G3 and G4 is bothering me now :lol:
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Shaz on October 05, 2018, 02:14:21 AM: Quote from: Taffeta on October 04, 2018, 09:37:59 AM
But G1 interacted with the fandom at the child level. There was the fan club in various countries. In the UK at least the comic had a letters page and for a while featured stories written by the readers, as well as photos of people's collections. Our club also had the nameless baby who we adopted and then had help to care for, and kids were encouraged to write into the club to share the names, the ideas, anything else regarding this.

Obviously that was paperbased and snailmail because it was the 1980s. But having a (moderated) web space or some kind of digital equivalent in which the toys and the people collecting them can interact around them is good. Having the toy or the product in general pander to the fandom is bad. If you can't write and create your own concept without constantly needing to be shored up by a bunch of people whose chief aim in life is to create memes to spam their friends, then you really need a reboot. At least in my opinion.

The fan club sounds such fun :) Why was I born too late to be in the UK Activity Club, dang it! A modern, online version of the Fan Club (aimed towards children of course) would be awesome. They could have an email newsletter and put kids' letters, stories, drawings etc in it. I have sometimes looked at the drawings page in the current MLP Magazine and wished I was 5 again so I could send something in :lol:
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Moonbreeze on October 05, 2018, 02:57:07 AM: An abundance of characters for starters. Same goes for the pony-types that could be introduced (aside from the unicorns, pegasi and earth ponies).

I'd like the accessoires not to be recycled from previous gens (unless intended ;) ) and not to be mono-coloured.
Make the playsets actual buildings and make pony wear that is not plastic :P

The brushables should be back at G1-G2-G3 sized and well... make them look like ponies/ horses again :P

What partially throws me off the G4 series is that they use locations based on 'real' ones, like Las Pegasus and Manehattan (No clue if I got those right). Eh :\ MLP is always set in a more rustique setting in my mind. I don't know if that's the right word to use though :P And for the love of... don't give ponies moustaches and beards xD It's weird.

*thows confetti* That's it :P :cool:
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Carrehz on October 05, 2018, 06:33:20 AM: Quote from: Moonbreeze on October 05, 2018, 02:57:07 AM
And for the love of... don't give ponies moustaches and beards xD It's weird.

oh god yes, FiM goes way overboard with this.. and eyebrows. :P I don't mind the occasional moustache, and goatees are cute (classic unicorn style), but other than that..
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Ragamuffin on October 05, 2018, 07:31:35 AM: Quote from: Carrehz on October 05, 2018, 06:33:20 AM
Quote from: Moonbreeze on October 05, 2018, 02:57:07 AM
And for the love of... don't give ponies moustaches and beards xD It's weird.

oh god yes, FiM goes way overboard with this.. and eyebrows. :P I don't mind the occasional moustache, and goatees are cute (classic unicorn style), but other than that..

I HATED it when they gave ponies eyebrows. Beards too but for one season it seemed like every other pony had big bushy eyebrows. :huh: If ponies have facial hair, I think it should be long fur.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on October 05, 2018, 07:39:39 AM: Symbols on both sides.
Symbols on both sides.
Symbols on both sides.

Also, not too humanoid. I would rather have a twenty minute cartoon of pastel ponies doing nothing but eating grass and pooping than get another MLP Tales.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 05, 2018, 08:57:35 AM: Quote from: Carrehz on October 05, 2018, 06:33:20 AM
Quote from: Moonbreeze on October 05, 2018, 02:57:07 AM
And for the love of... don't give ponies moustaches and beards xD It's weird.

oh god yes, FiM goes way overboard with this.. and eyebrows. :P I don't mind the occasional moustache, and goatees are cute (classic unicorn style), but other than that..

I hate mustaches and beards. They don't exist on real horses. Those are simply horses that have grown into their winter coats.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: BubbleTea on October 06, 2018, 09:11:21 AM: Quote
houses would be more like elaborate stables

*gasp* Imagine the possibilities!
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Sunset on October 07, 2018, 09:52:41 AM: Quote from: Moonbreeze on October 05, 2018, 02:57:07 AM
An abundance of characters for starters. Same goes for the pony-types that could be introduced (aside from the unicorns, pegasi and earth ponies).

I'd like the accessoires not to be recycled from previous gens (unless intended ;) ) and not to be mono-coloured.
Make the playsets actual buildings and make pony wear that is not plastic :P

The brushables should be back at G1-G2-G3 sized and well... make them look like ponies/ horses again :P

What partially throws me off the G4 series is that they use locations based on 'real' ones, like Las Pegasus and Manehattan (No clue if I got those right). Eh :\ MLP is always set in a more rustique setting in my mind. I don't know if that's the right word to use though :P And for the love of... don't give ponies moustaches and beards xD It's weird.

*thows confetti* That's it :P :cool:

I agree with all of this! I want my ponies to be in a more pastoral fantasy setting and not modern day with a little magic thrown in. And yes! To play sets actually shaped like buildings. Not that I have room for anymore play sets. :P
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: tuneful87 on October 07, 2018, 11:37:28 AM: I think I'd go in a TOTALLY new direction, as well as introduce a Play Line and Collector's line. For the latter, think expensive, beautiful, realistic looking horses, unicorns, and pegasus.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Pinkie21 on October 07, 2018, 06:41:49 PM: I’d have lots and lots of different ponies; Earth, unicorn, and Pegasi. Lots of neon, and I’d love to do some space-themed ones. No natural colored ponies, under any circumstances. And any animation of the line must be hand-drawn.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on October 08, 2018, 09:21:23 PM: Symbols on both sides.
Something that looks like a pony.
And whatever would make the rabid, toxic Brony faction* stay the hell away from G5.

*Requisite "not all Bronies, not even the majority or close to it", are being referenced here. Just the ones that make SafeSearch a necessity for a children's toy. :throw:
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Mismatch on October 09, 2018, 03:14:24 AM: Quote from: tuneful87 on October 07, 2018, 11:37:28 AM
For the latter, think expensive, beautiful, realistic looking horses, unicorns, and pegasus.

Yesssss. I miss the old Grand Champions and Fantasy Fillies. It would be so cool if they made something similar--hard plastic horses with brushable manes and tails, and elaborate tack. Dream Beauties were supposed to be the My Little Ponies 'all grown up' (and potentially were marketed at an older audience?), so maybe they'd consider doing something similar with Twilight and her friends. It'd be super cool if they did the griffins and hippogriffs more realistically as well, and continued making, well, 'fiercer' looking toys. I'd like to see a serious version of 'Nightmare Moon' and 'Queen Chrysalis'.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Zapper on October 09, 2018, 05:54:04 AM: Quote from: Baby Sugarberry on October 08, 2018, 09:21:23 PM
Symbols on both sides.
Something that looks like a pony.
And whatever would make the rabid, toxic Brony faction* stay the hell away from G5.

*Requisite "not all Bronies, not even the majority or close to it", are being referenced here. Just the ones that make SafeSearch a necessity for a children's toy. :throw:

To repel them the ponies would have to look like G1 or G3 again. Or close to that. Anything with a tiny body, butt and large sparkly eyes will appeal to them so we'd need "fat hippos" again :lol:
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: FiddlePhan on October 09, 2018, 11:37:26 AM: I would love an animated series where it would be something kids as well as adults enjoy. I think the earlier seasons of FIM did that best. Include bad guys to give them troubles to work through.

Toys would have hair that is better quality like the original G1s that was soft and silky and easy to style without going into a rough frizzy mess.

There wouldn't be a zillion releases of the same ponies over and over and over again. Maybe just bring back one or two characters each release so kids who didn't get the other versions will have a chance later to get one.

A little bigger than G4 but smaller than G1 to give them something to stick out from the other generations. Make them more horse like and without the exaggerated eye size of G4.

Include a generation of flocked ponies as we haven't had any in a loooong time.

Include boys and without the sticking straight up mane styles of Shining Armour etc. Give them nice silky locks like the rest of the line.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Flitter on October 09, 2018, 08:07:58 PM: From my personal adult fan/collector perspective, what would make me interested in G5 is:
High quality collectible figures. Think nicer than funkos. Don't care as much if brushable or molded hair but I don't want to be so worried about factory flaws as with G4. When I say collectible, I mean variety. Stop releasing only the same characters over and over and over. At least include one or 2 new ones per wave. I love themed waves of figures and prefer for a return of G1 style themes like Sweetberry ponies, Sparkle ponies, etc. Having a mane cast is ok as long as other new ponies are released as well alongside them. I found after the excitement of wanting everything of the the first year or so even 2-6 new ponies a year after that, that I really wanted, was enough to keep me interested but not overwhelmed with my collection growing too fast.
A more fantasy style than G4. I want whimsical but not overly decorated style. I like pretty flowy hair but not crazy tattoo-like markings, for example.
Cutiemarks on both sides. And don't forget the importance of cutie marks and uniqueness in the pony world. I feel like the importance of symbols and the idea of having a destiny or at least interest or personality trait based on the cutie mark has been forgotten the past few years. It's what makes MLP fun and special to me and collectible as well. Hippogriffs, Seaponies and all the new species are not as interesting to me because the don't have marks.
And that said, Focus on pony characters. I like dragons and changelings and Yaks but I want the pony show keep to the pony's pov.
No facial hair on male ponies.
Keep the smaller G4 scale. I like the 3-4" figures best for photographing.

Less pop culture in the show. Stop trying to be cool with catchy phrases and memeable faces and focus on stories that are relate-able and form a continuity. Have lore that builds instead of seemingly inserted as a plot device.
My favorite FiM episodes were those that dealt with inner struggle ("Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?"& guilt, "Hurricane Fluttershy" & inadequacy) of interpersonal relationship issues I could relate to where the problems don't come off as contrived ("Sisterhooves Social" & understanding siblings). I really wish FiM would have gotten into Luna and Celesta's history and events that led up to how things are now. I feel like we got The Pillars to touch on history instead. I just am not interested in them the way they were introduced. It seemed more a substitute for true character growth and world advancement. Maybe that's just me though. Also, for being a magical pony land, I feel like magic has really gone by the wayside, more magic.
I think G4 was successful stylistically for the time as cute, round, simple and colorful animation was "in". I don't think it will work another round. I hope G5 has detailed, rich, beautiful, magical 80's throwback animation style.
Title: Re: If you could make the next generation, what would you like to see?
Post by: Zapper on October 10, 2018, 06:56:26 AM: As for the ponies themselves, I agree with those that said the ponies should be magical and dreamy and less rooted in a human world. No ponies farming pigs,chickens and cows. Farmer ponies would be strictly agricultural and all animals would be able to talk.

I'd imagine the G2 size class to be the best. Anatomywise, the ponies would be more G2 but with thick tails and a sturdier torso. Their heads would be more equine again.
Their eyes would be smaller, not taking over their entire face, but detailed. I would recycle the trend of the diverse eye decal of G4 to give my ponies more character.
Freckles or markings would also appear on my ponies randomly.
Male ponies would not look vastly different to female ponies. I would introduce more male characters but make them look just as bright or pastelly or longmaned than the girls.
No color coding.
Instead I would focus on mould/pose diversity. There would be a healthy mix of colors and not a pink/purple/white dominance.

Pony releases would follow themes. There would be holiday ponies but the holiday would get taylored to fit the imaginary pony world. A thing I liked about FiM - they made the effort to integrate holidays into their universe like Nightmare Night or Heartswarming.

No country exclusives. All people worldwide should have the same assortment. The local stores can vary the number of items they stock but they can't reject types of assortments (remember that this is not a realistic scenario :lol:)

High adventure with a dose of slice of life would be ideal for my TV show. Instead of two-parters I would have TV specials once in a while that can be split into episodes.
The show has an epic plot and new pony toys get introduced along the way. For instance, if I want to roll out the Zapper toy, Zapper pony gets introduced. If the pony is not supposed to have a strong toy presence it will appear as a returning/talking backgrounder.

Ponyland would be held up as an ideal commune with threats coming from the outside. Ponies would not be racist towards each other based on their species (something I hate in FiM with the overpowerful unicorns and outcast zebras) or sexist. Note that I eradicated sexual dimorphism, so there is no need to gender jobs or functions. A strong mare can fell trees and a nurturing stallion can be a softspoken teacher ;)

Badguys that are threatening the lives of others will not get reformed, even tho they will be written to be multidimensional and not just evil for the sake of evil.

Focus on symbols/marks would remain in the sense of having a celebration when a pony gains her mark and working the symbolism into the pony's character. But ponies would not choose their jobs based on their marks, the marks would contain a pony's magic and be a representation of what makes a pony unique.

All ponies would have an amount of magic.
No species would be more powerful than the others when it comes to the use of it.

Seaponies, Flutters, Hippogriffs and other equine fantasy creatures would be versions of pony. They would have magic marks like them.