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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: Marlin on March 13, 2017, 04:37:55 PM
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So, I have found myself in the rather fortunate position to be in possession of two very lovely So Soft Satin n Laces...
I've had one girl for a while. The other, arrived recently after an ebay gamble paid off (love that when that happens, lol!). Anyway, I had intended to move one of the girls on; which one that would be would depend on condition of course. So I finally pulled out my collection girl (all my ponies are unhappily in storage) and was surprised to find quite a stark difference between them!
Look for yourself, and the photos unfortunately don't highlight enough the different colouration.
What do you think is going on here? I would be really interested in opinions/discussion?
I don't believe it's a variation - perhaps as simple as a different batch?
My first thought was yellowed glue on my original girl (the pinker one is the new one) BUT the vinyl itself is a different colour - check out the pics. Original girl seems slightly redder in the vinyl. New girl's vinyl is bang on the same as my Magenta girl (who I am also lucky enough to own.)
So, fading then? But how can it be, when they both have such lovely pink hair!!?? :lol: :lol:
What do you reckon?
And who would you keep? Both are similar in condition - pinker girl's main flaw is a blimmin divot in the flocking on her back - argh! But original girl has a rub to her ear and worse loss along the hoof tips. Or, should I take advantage of my situation and keep both? Would you?!
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the glue for the flocking yellowed on the one on the left is my guess.
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That's certainly something I considered, but it's the colour of the vinyl and 'supposed' lack of fading that's got me curious. I think there probably is some yellowing in original girl, but not enough to account for the vast difference between the two :)
Now that I think of it, I am sure I have seen some 'redder' coloured Magenta's on ebay now and then (not as purply pink as others). So perhaps this is batch variety? Anyone got pics of their ponies to compare?
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The photos of the legs I assume are the lighter pink one? from the photos it looks like her inner legs are the same color as the darker pink one?
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It could just be a difference in the color of the plastic. I have a couple of So-Soft Buttons and one is a darker purple than the other underneath the flocking. I know because they both have slight rubs in different places (ear and edges of the feet) but neither is faded nor is the glue yellowed in any way (that I can tell). It's just that the base pony color is different. If they weren't boxed up right now I'd get a picture to show you.
From the pictures of the rubs, it looks like one of your ponies has a more purply-pink plastic and the other is more red-pink.
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I have collecting issues, so I would keep both, but if absolutely forced, I would pick the one on the right. I personally am drawn to less yellow shades. But, I say they are different enough and in good enough condition to have good reason to keep both.
The plastic color being different is very interesting. It has to be another batch or something, right? The flocking shouldn't allow it to fade so evenly and the hair to too lovely to look like any sort of fading to me, but I'm no expert.
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I think its glue troubles i had a partially deflocked satin and lace, i brought her with the intent to finish her but her head body mismatch is terrible, many many shades apart in difference her body is more pink in colour her head more purple in colour
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I have one thats more faded on the left but shes the only one I have. Your lucky. I would pick the one on the right. The best collectors advice I have from someone else is it is always how the body of the pony looks. If the body looks great the rest of the issues maybe able to be fixed. Though with so soft yellowing of the glue there is not a cure I know of.
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The photos of the legs I assume are the lighter pink one? from the photos it looks like her inner legs are the same color as the darker pink one?
They are individual leg pics - the first is the (new) pinker girl, the second my original girl. If you look at the flocking rub along the hoof edge you can see the different colour in the base vinyl :)
I think its glue troubles i had a partially deflocked satin and lace, i brought her with the intent to finish her but her head body mismatch is terrible, many many shades apart in difference her body is more pink in colour her head more purple in colour
How interesting re the vast difference!
Well, there seems a variety of opinion - thank you all for your input, everyone ^.^ I need to have a hard think about whether or not I really need two of them or need the cash more! :P
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Perhaps the pinker girl has regrind.
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Perhaps the pinker girl has regrind.
Thanks but no, I don't think so. I'm familiar with regrind and that's not what it is, I'm pretty sure. The pinker girl's vinyl is identical in colour to my magenta girl.
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I have no explanation for the difference, but I'd definitely keep the one on the right. :) But then again, I can't stand yellowing.
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How lucky are you with two beautiful Satin n Lace ponies! They both look lovely and I can cast no further advice about their differences than those above me already have - so I will just say, if you have to keep only one, let it be the girl on the right :lovey:
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Didn't Satin n' Lace actually come in two colors? Or am I thinking of someone else :blink:
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I would say that maybe they were the results of two separate batches, resulting in pigment differences. You know how sometimes ponies have heads and bodies with two different colors? I would say this may be the same kind of scenario.
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I have no explanation for the difference, but I'd definitely keep the one on the right. :) But then again, I can't stand yellowing.
Lol - I'm not a fan, either!
How lucky are you with two beautiful Satin n Lace ponies! They both look lovely and I can cast no further advice about their differences than those above me already have - so I will just say, if you have to keep only one, let it be the girl on the right :lovey:
:biggrin: :biggrin: Yeah... I'm leaning towards keeping the pinker girl. It's still so hard!! If they weren't so different I think I'd be much sharper in my decision :P
Didn't Satin n' Lace actually come in two colors? Or am I thinking of someone else :blink:
Hmmmm... well, she did come in three versions, all Mail Order. The first was the lavender, then the SS and the Magenta girl :) I don't think there was any other deliberate colour variation of each individual release.
I would say that maybe they were the results of two separate batches, resulting in pigment differences. You know how sometimes ponies have heads and bodies with two different colors? I would say this may be the same kind of scenario.
I'm glad you think so because I really do think this must be the case too (with the exception that my original girl does have a little yellowing to her glue). The vinyls are definitely different. Could be the way they've aged, but that could be to do with the batches, too?
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Perhaps one is made in China and one Hong Kong? Some of the MO ponies from the same time frame came from both. You could try getting their feet wet and seeing if you can make out if there are 2 lines of text or 3 (i doubt youll be able to read the location)
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That's an interesting thought, lunar_scythe! Out of curiosity I put it to the test when I finally got around to giving pinker girl a little clean yesterday. Unfortunately you can see nought through that flocking! :lol:
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Didn't Satin n' Lace actually come in two colors? Or am I thinking of someone else :blink:
She did, but in the unflocked regular version.
I think it's batch. I am pretty sure there were more than one batch of this pony.
If you can afford to, I would keep both. But if you are pushed, I'd make a list of the flaws and positives of each and see how that comes up. It will help you decide what is more important for your collection pony to be like :)
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I'm new but I can think of no explanation for aging of any sort to explain the difference. In my opinion, it is an original difference.
I always keep any variation unless someone is pointing a gun at me, in which case the choice is which one to hide behind cuz they're still not getting one without shooting first.
So I'd keep both.
You might be able to read the feet better by backlighting them....maybe try curling your finger around a hoof to block light coming to your eye except through the pony, and holding it up to a strong light...like "candling" an egg. Should be able to get one angle or another that gives the writing some contrast that shows through. Maybe. I haven't tried it and have no so-soft handy to try.
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If you can afford to, I would keep both. But if you are pushed, I'd make a list of the flaws and positives of each and see how that comes up. It will help you decide what is more important for your collection pony to be like :)
So I'd keep both.
Yesterday I photographed my original girl for for sales pic.... I had decided to keep the pinker one. I don't need two, I told myself....
But her little face was looking up at me... I remember how excited I was when I got her... I mean, c'mon!! It's So Soft Satin n Lace!!! And she is SO different to pinky girl (the photos just don't do the contrast justice)...
So yeah... SHE'S STAYING!! :lol: :lol: They both owe me a fraction of their worth, both are so interesting in their own right, and I can afford to keep both. So decision made! ;)
Thanks everyone :grouphug:
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Satin 'n Lace was initially offered as a So-Soft (before Tux 'n Tails / Coat 'n Tails existed). Was she ever sold as a So-Soft again? Or were all the later versions NSS?
If she was offered twice as a So-Soft, it could be a difference of timing. Otherwise I'd say it's a batch variation.
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Darn it, I meant to say sell one to me.
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If she was offered twice as a So-Soft, it could be a difference of timing.
That's an interesting thought! I'm not sure of the when and how of the releases, but that could also be linked to the batch variation?
Darn it, I meant to say sell one to me.
Lol!! :D