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Title: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 29, 2021, 10:08:14 AM
Original post in spoiler:
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Figured that it would be good to separate the media from the toy stuff.  ^.^
Hi, I'm Tailrust/Tealeaf, and I've been googling My Little Pony, going to the "News" tab, and then sorting by most recent. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Today I found something on a Kidscreen article (https://kidscreen.com/2021/01/29/my-little-pony-rides-high-with-new-cp/). I suggest reading the whole article but I put the important bits below:
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The introduction of new characters and a departure from designs featured in Friendship is Magic and Pony Life is intended to shift the brands focus to more modern themes like diversity and inclusion.
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The moviess main character, for example, is an activist working to make the pony world a better place.
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Instead of abandoning the franchises characters and stories, the movie will take place in the same world featured in Friendship is Magic and Pony Life, but jump ahead in time to focus on a new generation of ponies and unexplored corners of Equestria. This creates opportunities to include nods to the propertys previous iterations, both in upcoming content and consumer products offerings.
4/30/2021:
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I know a lot of you won't be happy about the reuseage of Equestria, but I enjoy seeing past generations hinted to so I think I would like to see a lot of hints to pre-G4 stuff. Probably G1 if anything, but I'm hopeful for others.
I'm also very excited for the merchandise stuff, but that's probably just me.  :awake:
Reminder that the movie comes out September 24th, 2021. I put all that we know so far (officially) on this wiki page (https://g5mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Movie).

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2/11/2021: Now we have a mention of a TV show (https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/02/11/hasbros-new-tv-and-film-segment-show-early-signs-o/), which I think we were all expecting, but this is the first we're hearing about it from an official source:
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And eOne will begin reimagining popular Hasbro franchises. My Little Pony is getting a TV show reboot, for example. Goldner said more upcoming projects will be announced at the company's investor day on February 25.
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2/12/2021: In a turn that doesn't surprise anyone, (https://variety.com/2021/film/news/paramount-my-little-pony-movie-netflix-1234902328/) the movie's distribution has been picked up from Paramount by Netflix for worldwide distribution ASIDE from China, where eOne is doin' that.
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Paramount Pictures was originally set to distribute the film, which had been scheduled to open in theaters on Sept. 24, 2021. Hasbro’s entertainment studio Entertainment One produced the movie and will retain distribution rights in China.

Though the exact release date is unclear, “My Little Pony” is expected to land on Netflix later this year.
And directors:
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Robb Cullen and Jose Ucha directed the upcoming installment with Mark Fattibene. Cecil Kramer and Peter Lewis served as producers.
I tried to find the directors past filmography and didn't see much of interest.
Reviving so I can sort of keep things neat and organized and others don't have to do much scrolling through pages.
For all news so far, check my Movie wiki page (https://g5mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Movie). I reference when I can and try to keep it up to date.
Highlighting newest news:
4/30:
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Zipp Storm and Pipp Petals animation reveal on 4/9: Youtube Link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4514P5Emtxo). They are sisters.
Trademarks filed on 2/25 recently unearthed give us full names for other ponies: Zipp Storm and Pipp Petals. There is also a related trademark for "Priness Petals". Pipp is the pink pegasus from the bedsheet leak a bit back, while we only have small images of Zipp from the investor event.
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Literally. That's it.
5/22 Movie title is "My Little Pony: Pony Tale".
5/29 Nevermind, movie title is "My Little Pony: A New Generation" according to Boulder's site. Pranked?
Also posting a movie summary so we can all stay on the same page:
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In the new movie, the pony world of Equestria has lost its magic. Friendship and Harmony have been replaced by paranoia and mistrust, and Ponies now live separated by species. Sunny - a feisty and idealistic young Earth Pony - is convinced there’s still hope for this divided world, but her slightly misguided and often hilarious efforts to change hearts and minds have led to her being branded a misfit. When Sunny befriends a lost Unicorn named Izzy, who wanders innocently into the Earth Pony town of Maretime Bay, the town has had enough. Izzy and Sunny must embark on an epic adventure that will include a daring jewel heist, outrageous conspiracy theories, elaborate musical numbers, and the world’s cutest flying Pomeranian. Their adventures will take them to faraway lands and force them to challenge the status quo by facing their fears and making new friends out of old enemies. The world Sunny has dreamed of her entire life could finally become a reality as Sunny and her newfound friends fight to prove that even little ponies can make a big difference.

6/30: Voices!
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8/13: Trailer!
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa_PRDVpjSk)

9/3: Glowin' Up, previously heard in the Singing Star Princess Petals toy, has been officially released  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vsX4avGXVE)(There are Youtube reuploads if the linked song doesn't work-it releases midnight local time so it only just became available to me a few minutes ago).

Just a little over 20 days to go until the movie releases..

9/15: Fit Right In (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmXbvT-IQKI), previously heard in the Singing Izzy Moonbow plush, has been released in Korean alongside animation from the movie.

9 days left!
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: SweetLemons on January 29, 2021, 10:45:49 AM
Welp.

I am so sorry to everyone who wanted the Mane 6 gone, because even as a G4 fan I've gotten so sick of the rereleases, and yet, Hasbro still disappoints.

The good news is they won't be the focuses which is great, but how much y'all wanna bet these new characters will fill in the generation main cast plagues? We had the Core 7, the Mane 6, and now whatever the heck these new characters will be. I just want the ponies to be cute, that's it. If I don't like the designs I'm out.

But I'd be lying if I said I'm not somewhat excited about the movie. I want to see what it looks like before I cast my final judgements, and even though I'm okay with it taking place in the G4 world, I imagine a good lot of you aren't, and for that, I truly weep. It shouldn't have gotten to this point, but it did.

Also, I'm glad we dodged the bullet of the idea that the cast would be the Mane 6 with a twist. If it was that, I would scream bloody murder.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 29, 2021, 10:56:20 AM
Also, I'm glad we dodged the bullet of the idea that the cast would be the Mane 6 with a twist. If it was that, I would scream bloody murder.
Haha don't even joke about that, it'll give them ideas.  :yikes:

I'd reallly love to see some sort of design! Hopefully with the investor call next month we can at least get a sillhouette.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: SweetLemons on January 29, 2021, 10:59:30 AM
Also, I'm glad we dodged the bullet of the idea that the cast would be the Mane 6 with a twist. If it was that, I would scream bloody murder.
I'd reallly love to see some sort of design! Hopefully with the investor call next month we can at least get a sillhouette.

I have a pretty good feeling we're gonna get a reveal soon. My money is on that investor call, and if it doesn't get dropped there, it'll probably be either leaked by toy previews or randomly revealed. Pony Life's existence was detailed on some random Friday in November. Since this is a pretty big deal for Hasbro I don't think we're gonna be waiting too much longer.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on January 29, 2021, 11:18:26 AM
I am okay with it being set in Equestria, but I would love if there was some visit to/mention of Dream Castle/Paradise Estate as a nod to the original series.  I do hope that they don't keep releasing the G4 Mane cast instead of releasing the new characters that they've promised to create.  Let's face it, there are definitely too many Pinkie Pies...
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Carrehz on January 29, 2021, 12:43:11 PM
Genuinely don't care where it's set, I just want new characters!! I fully expect we'll get a new set of main characters that'll be re-released into oblivion, but, y'know, as long as they're new characters...
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 29, 2021, 01:55:09 PM
At this point, I don't give a flying rat turd about the cartoon after the awfulness that is PL, as long as the toys return to well-made, pretty horseyness and diverse, balanced lines like G1 and G3.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: starrynights on January 29, 2021, 02:26:30 PM
I'm perfectly fine with it being in Equestria and references to older characters as long as the mane 6 doesn't take over.
Plus....chance for more Luna
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on January 29, 2021, 03:52:12 PM
Sadly I am not even excited.  :( 
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on January 29, 2021, 03:57:34 PM
Genuinely don't care where it's set, I just want new characters!! I fully expect we'll get a new set of main characters that'll be re-released into oblivion, but, y'know, as long as they're new characters...

Of course they'll be new.  It will be the great granddaughters of the Mane 6, who look just like them and are named after them...but they're totally new characters.   :coffee:

At this point, I don't give a flying rat turd about the cartoon after the awfulness that is PL, as long as the toys return to well-made, pretty horseyness and diverse, balanced lines like G1 and G3.

I haven't watched any of PL, the part of a trailer I saw hurt my head too much for me to want to see it at all, so I'm hoping that G5, whatever it ends up being, isn't like that.  Otherwise, I'll just focus on the toys instead of watching any of the cartoon.

Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 29, 2021, 04:11:24 PM
Pokeyonekenobie!  :scared: Go sit in the corner, and think about what you just said.  :rant:








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Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on January 29, 2021, 10:17:13 PM
This doesn't really sound like anything we didn't know before? Besides the main character being an activist thing. But I thought we already knew it would take place in Equestria but with new main characters...?

In any case, I'm fine with that as long as the new main ponies don't get spammed in the toyline as much as the Mane 6 did. G4 is the least fun generation to collect for me when it comes to the main toyline and that's because of the lack of character variety. I hope Hasbro can improve themselves in that regard.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: PinkieLopBun on January 30, 2021, 04:24:21 AM
This doesn't really sound like anything we didn't know before? Besides the main character being an activist thing. But I thought we already knew it would take place in Equestria but with new main characters...?
I think there might have been some speculation that it would take place in Equestria, but I don't believe it was confirmed until now.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: SunPony on January 30, 2021, 08:41:47 AM
After reading the article I'm intrigued by the non-toy products hinted at.  Maybe we could see something like pony soaps with a different color and scent for each character.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Zapper on January 30, 2021, 12:36:09 PM
At first I was delighted to read about new characters and the possibility of different designs to make ponies look not as samey. But then I got to the parts about the main character being an "activist" and everything taking place in the same world as FiM. The FiM canon is patchy and there were so many things that didn't make sense. Such as the role of princesses and why the heck they even existed. And on the other hand the world was so humanesque at times, it hardly felt like MLP. I don't want MLP stuck on that, tbh.

The stuff about activism to "make the world a better place" sounds like it will be even preachier than FiM, if that is even possible. I'm interpreting a lot into that one sentence, I know, but I am dreading some kind of "equalism!" type character. Sort of like the people you encounter on tumblr or twitter, because... what other kinds of activism are en vogue right now? Environmental activism would need the ponies to behave disgusting, such as drilling for oil, throwing trash in the ocean, killing for sport, etc. - and I was hoping they'd get away from having ponies mimic humans.

So eh, I am not getting my hopes up anymore. I'll wait and see and hopefully there will be an actually diverse range of characters (and not just based on girly stereotypes and themes).
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: PrincessKittyDragon on January 30, 2021, 05:04:52 PM
I really really hope they don't make this too preachy  :yikes:
Diversity and activism is great don't get me wrong but I'd worry about them just being performative "look how woke we are!!" with no substance. Would it be focusing on real issues because they actually care or is it because its just the on-trend to do right now? After all Hasbro is a big company just like the rest, existing for profit and little else.

Just like FIM as much as I love it, used the whole "friendship" as a preachy "love and get along with anyone regardless if they did horrible things to you or others! You have to forgive someone if they hurt you, even if they don't deserve forgiveness" *side eyes Starlight Glimmer*

Maybe I'm just selfish but I just want more fantasy or even MLP Tales style slice of life  :sad:
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: starrynights on January 30, 2021, 05:55:24 PM
Yeah I'm scared it'll be used performatively and dishonestly.... :(
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on January 30, 2021, 08:09:18 PM
Pokeyonekenobie!  :scared: Go sit in the corner, and think about what you just said.  :rant:








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Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: CloudyGlow on January 30, 2021, 08:20:37 PM
I feel like they ran the lore and story of FiM into the ground already. The finale for season 5 was the start of the decline. So I'm not happy to revisit this world.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: SaraMari on January 30, 2021, 09:05:44 PM
I am very cautious of this, set in the same world in the future a bit, references to the main six (if twilight lives a long time like Luna and Celestia probably she'll be a regular character?) Another core cast, the activist pony and diversity

Don't get me wrong diversity and activism are great things, but they didn't prove themselves good at handling friendship so I don't know about how well they'll do on those. Plus like Zapper said having an activist main character comes across like "how do you do fellow kids" and trend chasing. Perhaps she is an activist trying to spread the main six's friendship lessons so it's just going to be constant references and rehashing Haha

I feel like Hasbro is too afraid to really be fresh or new because they might lose that sweet sweet brony money. I wonder how this approach will pay off long term
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Taxel on January 30, 2021, 10:50:41 PM
Diversity, inclusion, and activism and are very important, powerful things but I do not trust Hasbro to handle them even kind of well. I wasn't looking forward to G5 and this just feels like another reason to avoid it, honestly.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Zapper on January 31, 2021, 02:27:59 AM
having an activist main character comes across like "how do you do fellow kids" and trend chasing

I am half-joking now, but just imagine an episode about a pony who doesn't want her afro puffs to get touched by others and then protag pony comes and is like "ackshuallyyyyy, I know just what to do!" and she magically gives all of them afro puffs and they end up touching the hair together and laugh. Equality! The end :lol:
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: PrincessRoyalBlue on January 31, 2021, 07:16:49 AM
Anyone here getting tired of the Mane Six? I mean, they're great and all, but with all due respect, we've had the same main characters for about ten years now. Doesn't anybody want some new main characters? Somepony new? With new personalities and names and everything, not just a slight recolor or a 'new look' like Pony Life? For goodness sake, Hasbro, I'm getting tired of these ponies. Maybe for G5 do something where you use names/slightly altered colors from G1, especially ponies that were usually left in the background and weren't really paid attention to! I can already think of a new 'Mane Six':
       - Medley: Sweet as pie, loves to sing, always there to help a friend, green pegasus with blue-green mane, silvery-blue eyes, cutie mark is silver music notes
       - Bubbles: Exaggerates things, a bit ditzy, always tries to keep her promises, darkish yellow earth pony with darkish cyan mane and white blaze on forehead, darkish cyan eyes, cutie mark is three darkish cyan bubbles and two lime bubbles
       - Glory: Adventurous, fun to be around, never flees any danger her friends might be in, pure white unicorn with messy light indigo mane with a sky blue streak, sky blue eyes match streak, cutie mark is light indigo shooting star with three light indigo stars around it
       - Locket: Smart, good at keeping secrets, will never abandon a friend even if it means something bad will happen to her, darkish pink pegasus with pale purple, white, and orange mane, pale purple eyes thank always seem to sparkle, cutie mark is three orange keys
       - Primrose: Loves to garden, always tries, likes to sing with Medley, peach-pink earth pony with blue hair with a reddish-purple streak (Because G1 Primrose had a red tail, and no cop cars here, please!), warm amber eyes, cutie mark is blue butterfly on a reddish-purple primrose
       - Buttons (not a background pony): Organized, creative, sometimes a worrywart, almost pastel purple unicorn with blue hair with light red steak that has a tinge of pink to it, very light pink eyes, symbol is three light red buttons with a tinge of pink to them and three blue stars

I'm not a great drawer, so I won't provide a picture of them, but if someone else could make them in a G5 style, that would be very great! I'd love to see what you could do.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 31, 2021, 07:21:48 AM
Yeah this is a bad idea. Hasbro consistently proves that they can't handle these sorts of things without botching it in any of their shows. I think they've ever had a handful of eps where it was subtle and natural, and not shoehorned, bad, clumsy, or hamfisted.

Post Merge: January 31, 2021, 07:22:31 AM

Anyone here getting tired of the Mane Six? I mean, they're great and all, but with all due respect, we've had the same main characters for about ten years now. Doesn't anybody want some new main characters? Somepony new? With new personalities and names and everything, not just a slight recolor or a 'new look' like Pony Life? For goodness sake, Hasbro, I'm getting tired of these ponies. Maybe for G5 do something where you use names/slightly altered colors from G1, especially ponies that were usually left in the background and weren't really paid attention to! I can already think of a new 'Mane Six':
       - Medley: Sweet as pie, loves to sing, always there to help a friend, green pegasus with blue-green mane, silvery-blue eyes, cutie mark is silver music notes
       - Bubbles: Exaggerates things, a bit ditzy, always tries to keep her promises, darkish yellow earth pony with darkish cyan mane and white blaze on forehead, darkish cyan eyes, cutie mark is three darkish cyan bubbles and two lime bubbles
       - Glory: Adventurous, fun to be around, never flees any danger her friends might be in, pure white unicorn with messy light indigo mane with a sky blue streak, sky blue eyes match streak, cutie mark is light indigo shooting star with three light indigo stars around it
       - Locket: Smart, good at keeping secrets, will never abandon a friend even if it means something bad will happen to her, darkish pink pegasus with pale purple, white, and orange mane, pale purple eyes thank always seem to sparkle, cutie mark is three orange keys
       - Primrose: Loves to garden, always tries, likes to sing with Medley, peach-pink earth pony with blue hair with a reddish-purple streak (Because G1 Primrose had a red tail, and no cop cars here, please!), warm amber eyes, cutie mark is blue butterfly on a reddish-purple primrose
       - Buttons (not a background pony): Organized, creative, sometimes a worrywart, almost pastel purple unicorn with blue hair with light red steak that has a tinge of pink to it, very light pink eyes, symbol is three light red buttons with a tinge of pink to them and three blue stars

I'm not a great drawer, so I won't provide a picture of them, but if someone else could make them in a G5 style, that would be very great! I'd love to see what you could do.

Wouldn't bringing back older ponies negate the wish for new characters?
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: PrincessRoyalBlue on January 31, 2021, 08:39:34 AM
Old can be new, too! In a way, but they'd be all new and different, with their personalities and colors each changed in their own way. Besides, what's so bad about G1?
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: banditpony on January 31, 2021, 09:28:44 AM
I think diversity + messages are super important for all ages. But I'm feeling iffy about the main character being an "activist". I think it's just should be something that's shown and not be preachy about it. And if they do not have boys in any sort of advertisement, or whatever, then it's all a bunch of hooey to me.

Either way. I really have no opinions developed one way or another since there's really not much information to go off of. I'm still excited to see what comes out. I'm more about merch these days then toys, so I'm crossing my fingers I'll like what they look like.

Also
having an activist main character comes across like "how do you do fellow kids" and trend chasing.

This made me laugh.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 31, 2021, 10:13:15 AM
Old can be new, too! In a way, but they'd be all new and different, with their personalities and colors each changed in their own way. Besides, what's so bad about G1?

Not really. Old is old, and I didn't say there was anything wrong with G1.

Its constant rehashing from 3.5 onward that started mlp on a downward spiral towards repetitive stagnation.

Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Zapper on January 31, 2021, 10:23:55 AM
And if they do not have boys in any sort of advertisement, or whatever, then it's all a bunch of hooey to me.

G4 targeted boys pretty aggressively with Guardians of Harmony and - partially - cosigned the Brony craze.

I also think they have got it a tad wrong when saying Gen Alpha are the ones craving these activist type characters and stories. I think they have them confused for Gen Z, the oldest of which are now 22, 23 years old. Gen Alpha are babies and Kindergarteners.

I am wondering about the rumors that this gen will be for slightly older audiences than FiM? Did we get any confirmation on that? Because if this show is truly for Gen Alpha then this rumor is as good as debunked. Like I stated, Gen Alpha is super young.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: banditpony on January 31, 2021, 11:30:24 AM
And if they do not have boys in any sort of advertisement, or whatever, then it's all a bunch of hooey to me.

G4 targeted boys pretty aggressively with Guardians of Harmony and - partially - cosigned the Brony craze.


Yeah, I mean just the normal toy line though -- not a special line. It's more so a desire for all companies to one day stop with the whole boy toy -- girl toy stuff. like this stuff: https://youtu.be/higKrtcMCCg 
(I went through a whole bunch of them, and didn't see a boy. not saying they don't exist, but there's not many of them if they do).

As I get older, it just bothers me more and more. It's up to companies to break the habit, and the consumers just have to follow, IMO.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 31, 2021, 01:23:17 PM
I am wondering about the rumors that this gen will be for slightly older audiences than FiM? Did we get any confirmation on that? Because if this show is truly for Gen Alpha then this rumor is as good as debunked. Like I stated, Gen Alpha is super young.
That was from the original leaked emails, no official word on demographics aside from Gen Alpha were made though.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: PrincessRoyalBlue on January 31, 2021, 01:39:26 PM
Old can be new, too! In a way, but they'd be all new and different, with their personalities and colors each changed in their own way. Besides, what's so bad about G1?

Not really. Old is old, and I didn't say there was anything wrong with G1.

Its constant rehashing from 3.5 onward that started mlp on a downward spiral towards repetitive stagnation.
No offense, you sound kind of upset. I'm sorry if I made you upset, I'm not trying to be rude or mean or anything like that in any way. You're right. You never said anything way wrong with G1, and old is old, that's true. I just kinda wanted to see some of my favorite characters from G1 again. Sorry again.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: reanna-mator on January 31, 2021, 02:27:23 PM
I actually like the idea of continuing on using Equestria. G4 built such a huge world and it's ripe for more exploration. I just hope we get to see a lot of new stuff, and just the occasional nod to the familiar. Though I wouldn't mind incorporating some more creatures and locations from G1 into the world.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Wardah on January 31, 2021, 02:33:57 PM
And if they do not have boys in any sort of advertisement, or whatever, then it's all a bunch of hooey to me.

G4 targeted boys pretty aggressively with Guardians of Harmony and - partially - cosigned the Brony craze.

I also think they have got it a tad wrong when saying Gen Alpha are the ones craving these activist type characters and stories. I think they have them confused for Gen Z, the oldest of which are now 22, 23 years old. Gen Alpha are babies and Kindergarteners.

I am wondering about the rumors that this gen will be for slightly older audiences than FiM? Did we get any confirmation on that? Because if this show is truly for Gen Alpha then this rumor is as good as debunked. Like I stated, Gen Alpha is super young.

Millennials are the ones who started the whole woke activist thing with the Occupy movement and many of them are the parents of Gen Alpha so it kinda makes sense.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on January 31, 2021, 02:36:32 PM
i've been more or less in the periphery of pony for the past couple of years, and while this is unlikely to pull me back in, i think it's an interesting take on a new generation. i'd totally be lying if a legend of korra-style continuation wasn't a guilty fantasy of mine for a while. i think "activist" can be interpreted very broadly and so i am going to choose to not dwell on that bit too much. twilight was 100% an "activist trying to make life better for ponykind" for most of the series.

i can say that i will not be visiting here when february 25th rolls around, at least until i've formed my own opinion, lol. i didn't have an account yet but i remember how absolutely brutal this place was when G4 was revealed!
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 31, 2021, 03:53:27 PM
Old can be new, too! In a way, but they'd be all new and different, with their personalities and colors each changed in their own way. Besides, what's so bad about G1?

Not really. Old is old, and I didn't say there was anything wrong with G1.

Its constant rehashing from 3.5 onward that started mlp on a downward spiral towards repetitive stagnation.
No offense, you sound kind of upset. I'm sorry if I made you upset, I'm not trying to be rude or mean or anything like that in any way. You're right. You never said anything way wrong with G1, and old is old, that's true. I just kinda wanted to see some of my favorite characters from G1 again. Sorry again.

:hug::
I'm not upset at all. I'm simply pointing out my issue with modern MLP and its insistence on not creating anything truly new, and the damage it has done. That's all. My apologies.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on January 31, 2021, 04:01:39 PM
i can say that i will not be visiting here when february 25th rolls around, at least until i've formed my own opinion, lol. i didn't have an account yet but i remember how absolutely brutal this place was when G4 was revealed!

Wait what's happening on February 25th? Are Hasbro doing something to fill in the lack of Toy Fair that day?
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 31, 2021, 04:23:47 PM
Wait what's happening on February 25th? Are Hasbro doing something to fill in the lack of Toy Fair that day?
Hasbro is holding an investors event! It sounds like it will replace the toy fair.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Carrehz on February 01, 2021, 06:51:24 AM
I think diversity + messages are super important for all ages. But I'm feeling iffy about the main character being an "activist". I think it's just should be something that's shown and not be preachy about it. And if they do not have boys in any sort of advertisement, or whatever, then it's all a bunch of hooey to me.

yeah pretty much this - "activism", diversity, etc aren't bad in and of themselves, but when it's the first thing they're telling us about the series, it does make me feel like they're just going for the "woke" points (or whatever the term of the day is, can't keep up with this stuff :P) more than anything else. Hopefully I'm wrong!

Admittedly, I'm really just here for the toys though, so as long as they're good then idk that I really care if the accompanying cartoon sucks or not :P I'll probably only be watching from the sidelines like I was with G4/FiM so...

but i remember how absolutely brutal this place was when G4 was revealed!

Such is the way of any long-running, multi-generation series' fandom ;) Same thing happened with G2, it happened with EQG, it happened much more mildly with G4.5, it'll almost certainly happen with G5, and I'm calling it now, if we get a G6, it'll happen with that, too. :silly:
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Taffeta on February 01, 2021, 07:41:17 AM
@PrincessRoyalBlue - welcome to our fed-up-with-M6 club. Have a cookie :) We've been over them for years.

On the other subjects...

Activism.  Hrm.

The environmental theme was already done in Tales. It's a current important theme but I would worry about using a kid's cartoon as a political platform for anything beyond the level of one episode where they clean up their local area. That's kind of where kids begin with learning about bigger pictures - by what happens close to home. They're more likely to respond to something immediate and close by than talk about global issues.

Equality - what does that even mean any more, really? Not to be all Orwellian on you guys, but in the diversity discussion, some causes are more equal than others. The danger of taking up that as a specific storyline (as opposed to just having a really diverse cast of characters with different personalities, backgrounds, experiences and such like) is that by representing one group you push the others into the shade. Is MLP going to tackle transgender rights in a small kids' show? Gay rights? Women's rights? Race and religious rights? Disability rights? And if yes to any of the above, who will they isolate within these groups by representing just one face or facet of those populations? You can't make an issue into a character.

I don't know if I care about this show. I find FIM's world pretty insincere and fake, so I'm not too interested in any more skim-the-surface storylines set in Equestria. But I was able to appreciate the G4 figures I have without putting myself through all the series of FIM. So if the toyline is good I will still buy them. That matters more to me overall. I just worry about the theme of the show - given the damage it left the pony community from FIM and the bad bronies - being another opportunity to drag the rest of us into unwanted negativity.

On the subject of bringing cast from G1. I agree with LAW. I love G1 but don't need to see it replicated in G5. More importantly, maybe I don't want it tainted by whatever G5 brings. G5 may be fine and brilliant, but the G1 characters belong in a different time and should stay there. New characters for a new decade. It's just a shame that it's not also a new world. The fact that creativity has largely died within MLP is kind of proven by the staying with Equestria. But we'll see.

I don't want to see a single M6 toy, though, ever again. If they must be in the show, then they must. But no more M6 toys. Please Hasbro. Don't do it.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 01, 2021, 08:23:32 AM
This is true, Tales did try to tackle lessons with environmentalism,  judging others prematurely and typical social lessons about gossip, secrets and getting along.

And in fairness, the 80s and 90s were rife with PSAs, and cartoons tackling the issues of the day.

Captain Planet tackled environmental issues, AIDs, drugs and bigotry
The banned (but brilliantly handled) Gargoyles gun episode
JatH tackled drugs, dyslexia, and dysfunctional families
COPs
Fat Albert
Dot and the Kangaroo tackled fire and selling wild animals

 Granted, they didn't always do them well. Still, its nothing new for Hasbro, I just wish they didn't suck at it.

Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Taffeta on February 01, 2021, 08:35:17 AM
Jem also dealt with executive fraud, peer pressure, abuse, medical issues...Plus maybe in Jem herself the problems of overwork and how it can lead to mental ill health. By Midsummer Night Madness and THe Day the Music Died she has Problems to the point she makes Rio three-time herself and runs off on a boat with Riot.

But then again it also has a Yeti and time travel :/ So.

Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 01, 2021, 08:50:32 AM
Jem also dealt with executive fraud, peer pressure, abuse, medical issues...Plus maybe in Jem herself the problems of overwork and how it can lead to mental ill health. By Midsummer Night Madness and THe Day the Music Died she has Problems to the point she makes Rio three-time herself and runs off on a boat with Riot.

But then again it also has a Yeti and time travel :/ So.

Also good examples.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: MJNSEIFER on February 01, 2021, 09:02:37 AM
This will end up sounding hypocritical of me when I post an article I'm working on, but terms of G5 apparently be a continuation or so of G4... I don't think it should be.  As much as I love My Little Pony in general and love the idea of generations being connected in fanon, I feel that this sort of thing should be left in fanon - we ourselves can decided if the generations connect in our own minds, and if we don't want them to, they don't have to.

The thing is, in canon, every new generation was exactly that, a new generation, so I feel G5 should be that, and G4 should step aside and allow G5 to take the spotlight, the same way the previous generations did for G4 and each other.  They didn't outright replace the previous generations, they were just "new generations" and nothing stopped us from going back to the old ones, the same as nothing will stop those of us who like G4 from going back to G4.  I think G5 should keep the tradition of being a completely new generation (barring recycled names and remakes of previous characters, because that happens) it doesn't to be even vaguely "FiM 2", it should be completely G5 in my opinion.

This may have been resolved, but in terms of being "woke"... that words has ultimately lost whatever meaning it ever had to be honest, in my opinion.  I'm sure there are some shows that do this, but ultimately I think people overuse the term for literally anything they can think of, and I really don't think TV is as woke as people say.

Maybe it's because I'm looking at it from a writer's perspective, but I do think the idea of things being woke is exaggerated - as what seems to have been previously discussed, morals and messages have been a thing in media for decades, regardless of whether it's political or not.  Also people act like a show is woke just for something simple like having the hero be female (which annoys me personally, because heroic, adventurous, and awesome females is one of my favorite things to write, and I have no intention of being "woke" at all - it is not woke for me, it is simply a character I enjoy writing.)
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on February 01, 2021, 10:41:10 AM
Such is the way of any long-running, multi-generation series' fandom ;) Same thing happened with G2, it happened with EQG, it happened much more mildly with G4.5, it'll almost certainly happen with G5, and I'm calling it now, if we get a G6, it'll happen with that, too. :silly:

oh, for sure haha. i think for a lot of us, collecting is an extension of childhood interest, so it is understandably difficult to watch a part of your childhood progressively get further away from what you remember. i'm certainly not immune to the feeling, i could not make myself enjoy EQG and i can't do it with pony life either. G5 will be bittersweet for me regardless of how good it looks. but i'm trying real hard to not be curmudgeonly about it!  XD
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Carrehz on February 02, 2021, 08:01:43 AM
Hee, that's how I'm trying to go about things, too. Hated EQG at first but then the toys grew on me, and it took a long while for G4 to properly grow on me too... I try and keep an open mind.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Delphian on February 02, 2021, 03:15:51 PM
I just can't stop thinking about how bad Equestria must be to need an activist pony and then I just :lol:

Like it's just so funny to me. Like are ponies fracking now?
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: SunPony on February 02, 2021, 04:01:27 PM
I've been thinking back to this part Tailrust pointed out: "The introduction of new characters and a departure from designs featured in Friendship is Magic and Pony Life is intended to shift the brands focus to more modern themes like diversity and inclusion."

I wonder if we will see more variety in pony hair.  I've noticed that now you can buy pre-tightly-curled doll hair, and pre-braided microbraids, plus perfume puff hair is already in the realm of...reality.  And there are probably even more options that more doll-oriented folks know of.  I think it would be cool if ponies came with some of these different hair types!  Variety is the spice of life, after all!

I reckon someone will poo-poo my thought, but there is is  -_-
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on February 02, 2021, 05:15:37 PM
i think it would be lovely if they included textured hair in the toy line! i'm also hoping to see boy ponies that aren't blue/red and actually have hair, and interesting body shapes. it was a really big deal in 2014 when the pony with the wheelchair was featured in the show and rainbow roadtrip had a pony with a prosthetic, wonder if they will do something like that in the toys too.

i am probably getting ahead of myself, though. :silly: we'll get a dragon or something.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 03, 2021, 08:51:43 AM
i think it would be lovely if they included textured hair in the toy line! i'm also hoping to see boy ponies that aren't blue/red and actually have hair, and interesting body shapes. it was a really big deal in 2014 when the pony with the wheelchair was featured in the show and rainbow roadtrip had a pony with a prosthetic, wonder if they will do something like that in the toys too.

i am probably getting ahead of myself, though. :silly: we'll get a dragon or something.

Textured hair?
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Taffeta on February 03, 2021, 03:59:44 PM
I just can't stop thinking about how bad Equestria must be to need an activist pony and then I just :lol:

Like it's just so funny to me. Like are ponies fracking now?

That made me laugh xD.

I would personally love to see them do more with the pony hair. Perfume Puffs have already demonstrated 'different' in the pony line, but there are a lot of options they could pursue. G4 seems to have stopped at "troll fur hair" and the usual type in various states of quality. But I'm thinking of whatever the swamp girl is from MH, with her really tight curls. That would be pretty awesome.

I have a strong feeling that Stardazzle of the DB set also has very tight curls, as do some of the petites. It's got precedent and if they can do it in the eighties/nineties, there's no excuse not to.

The question with braids would be, can they be taken out of the braid or is this a permanent style feature?

I have one pony from my childhood who still has a whole ton of tiny braids in her tail. I was intending on braiding all of it in tiny braids but got bored, so she only has part of it >< but I don't think it would be a bad thing for a pony to have braids instead of hair.

A few months ago I rooted a G1 bait with ribbon instead of actual hair because I didn't have any. I don't know if I would want G5 to do that in a toyline...but...they could also explore other materials than the ones we've discussed.

My big fear about 'diversity' and 'inclusion' is that it will end with well meant stereotypes that go very badly. I hope that's not the case, but I still feel that there's a risk if you actively choose to include 'groups' that you'll only represent one face of that community, rather than representing them as eclectic and diverse individuals beyond the stereotype. (Remembering how they handled Zecora, as one example, and maybe also Muffinpony, on a different one.

I feel like subtle diversity by variety in the toyline, as opposed to in your face diversity would be a lot more successful. :/
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Wardah on February 03, 2021, 04:32:11 PM
The main thing I would like is for different body types. I want chunky ponies and lanky ponies and short ponies and tall ponies. I would rather my ponies to not look like they are just different colored clones.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Bathtub on February 03, 2021, 05:25:47 PM
I hope they have twinkle eyed ponies, and Ribbon the telepathic unicorn references. It says something about "previous iterations in cartoon and toys" (paraphrase). I LOVE that.  will that small twilight from my crazy dream from fifteen years ago be sold?
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Ponybookworm on February 03, 2021, 05:27:47 PM
The main thing I would like is for different body types. I want chunky ponies and lanky ponies and short ponies and tall ponies. I would rather my ponies to not look like they are just different colored clones.
I'd support this
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on February 03, 2021, 05:30:25 PM
Textured hair?
it’s a broad way to refer to all the different types of curly hair. not pony hair with sandpaper glued to it or something lol!
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: SunPony on February 03, 2021, 06:43:50 PM
The main thing I would like is for different body types. I want chunky ponies and lanky ponies and short ponies and tall ponies. I would rather my ponies to not look like they are just different colored clones.

Ah, I didn't really think of this before but I like it! 
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Esbayne on February 04, 2021, 12:00:51 AM
YES to all the ideas on hair & body types! That would be so awesome. And MORE. BOY. PONIES!

But. It's Hasbro. XD I won't hold my breath.

I can't see myself being into the show, as I wasn't even a fan of FiM, and it does sounds very preachy already. But I am really looking forward to seeing what the toys will look like, trying to keep an open mind.

(I hope they're cool. XD)
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Ragamuffin on February 04, 2021, 12:26:09 AM
On body types... it got a bit long... :biggrin: TL;DR I would like to see a variety in body types, but I think it would be lacking at best or nonexistent at worst.

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Body types would be great but I'm not sure if we would actually get any of that in the toys. It took them years to give us boy ponies due to the ridiculous sexual dimorphism between G4 stallions and mares. All, or at least most, of the mares in FiM look exactly the same, while the stallions seem to have varied faces and body types, some even have feathers while others don't! So when it comes down to toys, it's easier to make mare after mare. We only got Shining Armor because he's supposed to be married to the marketable pink princess. We only got him in the 2017 reboot because he could be sold in "family sets" with Cadence and the BABY pink princess. What reason did they have to make Big Mac, Soarin, Cheese Sandwich, Zephyr Breeze, or Sunburst?

Even when we got Big Mac and Soarin (after 6-7 years of waiting!), they still used Shining Armor's body. Big Mac should be bulkier, and Soarin doesn't have feathers on his hooves. Come to think of it, Sandbar is a bit of a miracle. A totally unique body type, fairly accurate to the character, and hair to match that isn't troll hair or a mohawk... Heck, maybe that's why we would never see a Zephyr toy-- for one, he has a lanky body, and two, his long hair is sort of a defining feature. But boys aren't SUPPOSED to have long hair! :P

If Hasbro gave the Mane Cast varying body types... what's going to happen if one of the Mane characters are fat, and Hasbro gets too lazy and puts her on a thin, generic mare's body? It's subtle, but isn't Mrs. Cake from FiM a bit chubby? Or at least, she doesn't have a typical mare body. Yet for her brushable release, she looks just like everyone else. I know in the leaked art they gave Pinkie and Rainbow Dash different wing shapes. If those turned out to be final designs and toys were to be made of them, would they actually acknowledge their differences, or make them identical?

Not to go on a tangent about pony body types but... :silly: When I was making my G5 predictions I had to look at G4 to make more realistic ones... I keep thinking "oh a feature like coloured in hooves would be cool!", but would Hasbro really do coloured hooves? I think not. This is the company that made Twilight Sparkle magenta with purple hair instead of a thistle-y/lavender colour with blue hair, and gave Applejack eyebrows instead of freckles. Applejack STILL doesn't have freckles most of the time. Celestia was pink instead of white.

Of course, we would hope that Hasbro puts actual effort into G5. I'm not saying body types shouldn't be a thing at all, but if they're going to do it, they have to do it right. Basically, is the call for diversity genuine, or performative? If Hasbro makes a fat pony, they would actually HAVE to deliver on a mould that matches that pony's body type, if they didn't, it would be a terrible look for them. But if they don't make a fat character in the first place, they don't have to put in any effort, and they can save money by making everyone look the same. :huh: I'd hate to be cynical about something like this but G4 was so incredibly lazy, all about the dumbest of things. If Hasbro can't put six dots under a pony's eyes during a gen's decade-long run, why would they put effort into making different body types?


If Hasbro wants to G5 to be more diverse, I wonder if we would actually get a boy pony in the Mane cast, and not just Spike. :wonder: And hair types would be soooooo good! The G3.5 Pinkie Pie with the curls is so so so cute and I would love it if they did anything similar. They should have done that same hair style for the "Magic Of Everypony" set with the "show-accurate" manes. They just gave Pinkie ringlets for that, just like Rarity. Better than nothing I guess? For molded hair I want them to put actual detail into curls, too. Pinkie used to have curls but now her hair just kind of looks like... a cartoon brain...? It's just a bunch of shapeless lumps... :lookround:

Back on topic of the G5 movie and the info in the article, I was talking to Tealeaf about it on Discord. The Mane 6 unified the creatures of Equestria, with more species living together in harmony than ever before, with the yaks, kirin, changelings, dragons, griffins, and hippogriffs, etc. So now, all of a sudden, even the MAIN THREE pony species are split apart again? How far ahead in the future does this take place?!?! What kind of princess was Twilight to have let this happen?!? :lmao:

But then, I wonder, it's a "future" version of G4 Equestria, but is it the same exact universe as FiM, or is it a different one? G4 has different canons, does it not? Such as the comics? And different universes definitely exist already, as seen in that season finale where they redeem Starlight Glimmer. I don't play the Gameloft game much but I know they always like to bring in "alternate" or whatever versions of the Mane 6, such as vampires/bat ponies like "Appledrac".
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Lilja on February 04, 2021, 04:01:40 AM
The main thing I would like is for different body types. I want chunky ponies and lanky ponies and short ponies and tall ponies. I would rather my ponies to not look like they are just different colored clones.

100% agree! I'd love to see this! Would be amazing if every character had a unique mold that was never reused for other characters. That's probably a bit too much to hope for, but maybe they could reuse each mold only once. :biggrin: G3.5 basically had unique molds for each character, but the faces were still very same-y (except for Sweetie Belle). A good point with G4 was that there were so many different eye styles that really set the characters apart, so I hope that gets carried over.

I'm all for a show that aims to promote positive, progressive values. There are great ways to do to this in fantasy environments, as seen in Steven Universe and the She-Ra reboot. I'd never argue against it on the assumption they'll handle it badly or that if they can't cover "all the issues" they shouldn't try to cover any at all. I'll wait until G5 is released to judge it. Possibly it'll just be mostly light fluff with some funny and heartfelt moments, the way it was with FiM. But that's fine too, I don't really expect much more from an MLP cartoon.

Back on topic of the G5 movie and the info in the article, I was talking to Tealeaf about it on Discord. The Mane 6 unified the creatures of Equestria, with more species living together in harmony than ever before, with the yaks, kirin, changelings, dragons, griffins, and hippogriffs, etc. So now, all of a sudden, even the MAIN THREE pony species are split apart again? How far ahead in the future does this take place?!?! What kind of princess was Twilight to have let this happen?!? :lmao:

That's kind of the thing though. We tend to assume the society we currently live in is the most tolerant and that things will only keep improving into the future. But as history shows us, old bigotry can reemerge if we're not diligent. I think it could make for a good storyline.

But then, I wonder, it's a "future" version of G4 Equestria, but is it the same exact universe as FiM, or is it a different one? G4 has different canons, does it not? Such as the comics? And different universes definitely exist already, as seen in that season finale where they redeem Starlight Glimmer. I don't play the Gameloft game much but I know they always like to bring in "alternate" or whatever versions of the Mane 6, such as vampires/bat ponies like "Appledrac".

This is a good point too! There are lots of ways they could go about this "it's still Equestria, but in the far-off future" thing. I'm really interested in seeing how they'll handle it!
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on February 04, 2021, 02:56:27 PM
so... i saw this morning that a poster on a rather infamous brony board (y'all know the one) claimed to have gone to an early screening/script-reading of the movie and gave a bit of a plot summary. this was in october and they got majorly poo-pooed at the time, but the information is in-line with this article and the leaked animatic. quick run-down below, potentially major spoilers but remember to take this with a huge grain of salt.

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1. It is very far in the future. None of the FIM characters are actually around anymore, except to represent "better times."
2. Ponies fought and different types now all live in separate, themed lands (you might recall that this was a major theme in the leaks from a couple years ago).
3. The land is ruled by a council of alicorns, who dictate what ponies can do based off of their race and cutie mark. There is an underdog alicorn who speaks out and this one is an idol for the MC.
4. MC is a pegasus with a partially functioning wing and is in a pacifist group, along with her Twilight-esque unicorn coworker.
5. The above 2 go on a journey to find the elements of harmony and find the other 4 on the way.
6. Other 4 are a hippogriff/seapony, kirin, bat pony, and a changeling boy.

Additionally:
1. Movie is digital painting style, similarly to Into the Spiderverse. Imalou seems to be a major influence.
2. Some themes of the separate lands: Earth = western, Pegasus = steampunk, Unicorn = supernatural, Bat = goth, Kirin = Japanese folklore (includes dragons), Changeling = cyberpunk.
3. The poster claimed the race/diversity themes were done well and not hamfisted, and if someone posting on this particular board is claiming that, I'm inclined to believe them.

sorry if i'm late to the game on this one, by the way!
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: littletulula on February 04, 2021, 03:28:45 PM
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so... i saw this morning that a poster on a rather infamous brony board (y'all know the one)

I don't know what board you're talking about 😳 care to share?
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 04, 2021, 03:55:04 PM
so... i saw this morning that a poster on a rather infamous brony board (y'all know the one) claimed to have gone to an early screening/script-reading of the movie and gave a bit of a plot summary. this was in october and they got majorly poo-pooed at the time, but the information is in-line with this article and the leaked animatic. quick run-down below, potentially major spoilers but remember to take this with a huge grain of salt.

Spoiler
1. It is very far in the future. None of the FIM characters are actually around anymore, except to represent "better times."
2. Ponies fought and different types now all live in separate, themed lands (you might recall that this was a major theme in the leaks from a couple years ago).
3. The land is ruled by a council of alicorns, who dictate what ponies can do based off of their race and cutie mark. There is an underdog alicorn who speaks out and this one is an idol for the MC.
4. MC is a pegasus with a partially functioning wing and is in a pacifist group, along with her Twilight-esque unicorn coworker.
5. The above 2 go on a journey to find the elements of harmony and find the other 4 on the way.
6. Other 4 are a hippogriff/seapony, kirin, bat pony, and a changeling boy.

Additionally:
1. Movie is digital painting style, similarly to Into the Spiderverse. Imalou seems to be a major influence.
2. Some themes of the separate lands: Earth = western, Pegasus = steampunk, Unicorn = supernatural, Bat = goth, Kirin = Japanese folklore (includes dragons), Changeling = cyberpunk.
3. The poster claimed the race/diversity themes were done well and not hamfisted, and if someone posting on this particular board is claiming that, I'm inclined to believe them.

sorry if i'm late to the game on this one, by the way!
This is so interesting!! I won't add it to the wiki just yet but this ties in well with the information we have. Digital painting style would be so cool!
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so... i saw this morning that a poster on a rather infamous brony board (y'all know the one)

I don't know what board you're talking about 😳 care to share?
Unfortunately I think it is not to be named. :P
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Taffeta on February 04, 2021, 04:34:02 PM
I do wish the elements of harmony weren't going to be pulled back into this, if this information is accurate, but it does depend how it is handled.

Kirins could potentially be a landmine depending on how they do it, given that they're mythical beasts in China etc as well. The relations between China and Japan being what they are, I hope they tackle that sensitively.

The idea that the main cast be different species would feed into what a lot of people have been asking for I think...?

I guess we'll see if these things transpire. But if so, it would suggest that the toys would each have their own mould for the character, as some people were saying above.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on February 04, 2021, 06:09:49 PM
i just realized, sorry for my overuse of the word "major" ^^; but yes! if it's true, it actually has me kind of excited, at least as far as the media goes. the poster was very complementary of the movie.

and i also thought the same regarding kirins re: backfire potential. it's a little strange for all the other lands to be relatively neutral and then have one directly inspired by a real-world culture. we'll see how it goes, of course, it may not even be true.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: SunPony on February 04, 2021, 06:49:45 PM
Huh, none of the main characters are
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Earth ponies...
  Interesting...

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it's a little strange for all the other lands to be relatively neutral and then have one directly inspired by a real-world culture.
  I'm assuming "western" means something like "ye olde wild west in the USA" - that's also a real-world culture!  Or if it just means to imply western civilization...ditto.
  And I do agree that there is the potential for cultural insensitivity issues there!  With either/both! 

Not sure if I needed to spoiler any of this?  But I did to be on the safe side. 
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Ragamuffin on February 04, 2021, 08:46:34 PM
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If this is to believed I'm excited for kirin but I hope all three of them have nice designs with Cutie Marks. The changelings, seaponies/hippogriffs, and kirin all had solid coloured manes and no Cutie Marks. Imagine going into the pony aisle to buy a pony and none of them are ponies and none of them have features that are expected in a My Little Pony brand toy... is a little bit of colour too much to ask?

I don't like the lack of earth ponies in this. Earth ponies have always been the least favourite species in the FiM fandom, and remember the leak that said they were going to get rid of Applejack because they didn't know what to do with her? In FiM they made unicorns so overpowered and gave earth ponies literally nothing to do. It's called My Little PONY and none of the characters are just going to be regular old ponies? Are ponies BORING? Are you going to call the series "My Little Unicorn" now? I grew up with G2s and G3s which were predominately earths, and I like the rarity of the unicorns and the pegasi. It made them really special and it was always exciting to see one. Plus I was a "Horse Girl" in general so maybe I'm more drawn to earth ponies for that reason. In G4 it was like earth ponies might as well not exist at all because unicorns were the superior species.

Unpopular opinion that I've stated before, but I've never liked bat ponies. Conceptually they're fine but bronies were SO in love with them, "too much"; I only associate bat ponies with the brony side of the fandom. I don't like how they chose the "brony species" over the actual thing the series is named for.
 
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on February 04, 2021, 09:06:25 PM
oops! that's right! i guess i was thinking in terms of the M6.

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i'm also a little disappointed by the lack of earth ponies, but not surprised at all. my guess is that they would be difficult to market next to the rest. one less opportunity for glittery/light up wings/horn.

also, someone else posted something in november saying more or less the same thing, with a couple inconsistencies
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mostly surrounding alicorn leadership. said that there was a stigma against magic and the world was mostly governed by pegasi/earth ponies. still a conspiratorial government thing going. they also said all the separate lands were based off of real cultures, stating mardi gras/new orleans for pegasi and victorian era for bats. japan for kirins, still. sounds like that could be more interpretation than an inconsistency
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Taffeta on February 05, 2021, 01:13:23 AM
To be honest they might have played it safer going for historical something for all of them, rather than modern culture. Mind you,
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Victorian = blah, I don't know why shows keep fixing on it. There are so many more interesting things they could have done.

I automatically expect in a US TV show that the west = the US and that's fine. I don't see a problem with it, I mean, they're making it, and that should mean it's not culturally insensitive. I wouldn't read it as representing the WHOLE west since Western culture is diverse between countries, but it's probably not going to offend anyone if it doesn't represent every single cultural facet. I just wonder if Victorian is meant to be a nod to here, and if so, that will be annoying. Especially if there's a faux-English accent involved. Please no. ><

I suppose with the Kirin aspect, it depends on how they do it, but I am fairly sure that China considers the Qilin to be theirs first and foremost. The Japanese word comes from the Chinese one, after all. I would be more worried about stereotypes in this context that might be taken amiss as well. Aside the relationships in Asia being a bit of a minefield, Western ideas of Japanese culture are a bit...narrow. :/ But we'll see. I may be overthinking it.

And all of this may not be accurate, so.

I will say this. I really like the idea of the MC having a wing disability. Depending on how they handle it, having a disabled MC in a kid's show is a potentially powerful thing.


I am not sure why I am spoilering since the whole thread is really about spoilers, but just in case :)
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Ragamuffin on February 05, 2021, 02:30:26 AM
I found the posts, one is from October last year and the other is from November. Mind you these are just rumours and not real leaks. While there's consistency in them, there's no real evidence like pictures or anything so there's no reason to take this as 100% true until Hasbro shows us something.


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First post from October was an "unfinished screening" and was more or less what was mentioned earlier here. OP said it took place in futuristic Equestria. Danny DeVito supposedly has a role in this film, but that bit of info was already in the 2017 leaks. The segregation was a result of some species being jealous of the others' friendship and the alicorns had to break everyone up. Pegasus MC and unicorn friend go across Equestria to look for the Elements of Harmony.

Post from November was an "updated draft" of the movie. Mentions the same 2Dish art style. The ponies don't live in Equestria but rather a different country, and in a fantasy urban setting. Says pegasus MC is part of a larger activist group that's lead by another pegasus, who has a bigger role later in the story. Other characters seem to be dubious about this other pegasus. No mention of alicorns anywhere and instead the country is governed by magic-fearing pegasi and earth ponies. Plot is about a government conspiracy or something and "unlocking your true potential". MC learns a lesson about "life is not all about people getting along". Movie is rated PG and has a run time of about two hours. OP said it doesn't pander to bronies and doesn't take a lot from FiM aside from a few references. Compared it to Adventure Time.

Inconsistencies: The setting of "Equestria" versus this new country. Granted "Equestria" isn't the name of the planet the ponies live on but is rather the country/kingdom the G4 characters live in. There are probably more pony societies on the planet we don't know about and this movie could show us. October post doesn't mention the tension between the nonmagical and the magical pony species, nor the governing pegasi and earth ponies. October post doesn't mention the conspiracy part of the plot, and the November post doesn't mention anything about alicorns. November post does not mention the Elements of Harmony either.
October post says locations are based on movie tropes/genres, and that pegasi get steampunk and bat ponies get horror. November post says locations are based on real-world cultures mixed with fantasy, and that pegasi get a Mardi Gras-inspired setting while bat ponies get a Victorian one.

People in the comments of both posts aren't a fan of the premise, and someone asked about why the Mane Cast are mostly non-pony species in the November post. They were wondering why they would make the cast like that, because ponies are the core focus of MLP (obviously) and would sell better than nonpony species-- that's why we got toys of Silverstream and Sandbar, but not the other characters. Their words, not mine (while I think it's partially true, I think it's mostly due to that Sandbar and Silverstream are easier to make due to pre-existing moulds). OP replied to the comment, dismissing it, saying that kirin are definitely ponies and that Hasbro is focusing more on digital entertainment rather than toys. I don't know if I would believe this guy when he says that. If he was just there for the movie and nothing else, what does he know about Hasbro's strategy for toys and merchandise?

And assuming both of these are true, how far along into production was the movie at this time last year? Both posts also mentioned that there were musical segments but no music in the versions they saw. Was it mostly finished, or were they just animatics and storyboards? What counts as "unfinished" and "updated"? Did OP of the October post leave some things out, or were those things added in in the updated version that the November OP watched? Or are these both bogus stories, one original and the other copying some of the info to look more credible? :P

Something else to mention, in the animatic/storyboard leak from last month, both of the characters seem to be earth ponies, not pegasi. Unless they just didn't draw their wings, there aren't any on either pony's back. That's also assuming this sequence would be in the final movie and wasn't scrapped...

Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Dreamer on February 05, 2021, 03:36:53 AM
I'm excited, I can't help to compare the "pony species associated with movie genres" thing with the "troll species associated with music genres" they did with Trolls 2... it's not something bad, tho! I'd like more of the same base concept as long as it's well handled  :)
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on February 05, 2021, 04:53:43 AM
i just figured either someone was trying to irritate some bronies and got very lucky with a couple details, or they’re telling the truth. my guess is that the november post is pot-stirring regardless.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Zapper on February 05, 2021, 05:09:03 AM
Oof, if the spoilers are legit I can say we are in for FiM 2.0
At least it sounds like it'll look good.

it's a little strange for all the other lands to be relatively neutral and then have one directly inspired by a real-world culture.

"Western" is a culture, too ;) Nothing neutral about Americana.
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I gotta say I see no correlation between Changelings and Cyberpunk. SciFi horror maybe.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Ragamuffin on February 05, 2021, 05:15:35 AM
i just figured either someone was trying to irritate some bronies and got very lucky with a couple details, or they’re telling the truth. my guess is that the november post is pot-stirring regardless.

The hacker known as [REDACTED] would never lie to me
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Zapper on February 05, 2021, 05:37:18 AM
Sorry, I should have read the entire thread before posting.

This is true, Tales did try to tackle lessons with environmentalism,  judging others prematurely and typical social lessons about gossip, secrets and getting along.

And in fairness, the 80s and 90s were rife with PSAs, and cartoons tackling the issues of the day.

Captain Planet tackled environmental issues, AIDs, drugs and bigotry
The banned (but brilliantly handled) Gargoyles gun episode
JatH tackled drugs, dyslexia, and dysfunctional families
COPs
Fat Albert
Dot and the Kangaroo tackled fire and selling wild animals

Granted, they didn't always do them well. Still, its nothing new for Hasbro, I just wish they didn't suck at it.

I think what's obvious here is that these shows had people in them who did the evil deeds. Except for Tales and well, Tales was My Little Anthropony and that's exactly what I had hoped G5 would get away from. FiM had some really misinformed stories about invasive species and taking away land from natives. If that's supposed to be in the past of G5, canonically speaking, then they'd need really clever writers to get around that stuff. Especially if they are trying to convey these messages and not use them as a metaphor for sharing and caring, something that FiM actually tried to do with these eps.

Back to jokes, how funny would it be if some of these things would just not appear in G5 because "that was long ago and the natives and fruit bats are extinct now" - problem solved :lol: Or maybe the buffalo are now all running casinos :lookround:
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on February 05, 2021, 06:15:42 AM
"Western" is a culture, too ;) Nothing neutral about Americana.
haha yes i posted above, i forgot about that one altogether. for shame, since i’m from texas! :silly:

The hacker known as [REDACTED] would never lie to me
LOL never. everyone knows anonymous boards full of dudes with hair-trigger tempers are actually the most reliable source of information.

Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 05, 2021, 07:11:55 AM
One of the most exciting things from the rumored posts is that the animation would emulate 2D. Someone said it looks like Lmalou's painting style. That would be so cool!
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on February 05, 2021, 07:29:24 AM
i hope if nothing else, that part is true!
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Carrehz on February 05, 2021, 07:43:27 AM
Hmm, interesting stuff. Wonder how much of it is true, if any...

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Probably in the minority here, but I'm excited at the prospect of more bat pony toys. I always thought those were a cute species design ^^ Was disappointed they never really made any toys of them.

It IS weird that there's supposedly no earth ponies in this film though... that's stupid. :/ I like the apparent diversity in species, or, I'll like it if it means more toys of those species (I've said before that they dropped the ball with stuff like that. Changelings are a cool concept, more toys of them would've been nice). :P Though I hope they all have symbols. that always bugged me about the G4 hippogriffs (and Changelings, to a lesser extent).

..Although it occurs to me that by "Changeling" they probably mean those ugly, garish green bug-deer things, and not the cool black bug things... eesh...
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 05, 2021, 07:47:38 AM
Oh there will be earth pony toys. For the same reason all toymakers of colorful ponies push them out more then other species. They're the basis. And tbf, with the exception of the Glow n Shows, the Tales show was all Earth Pony and G2 has only 3 unicorns, and a few ponies with removable wings.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Zapper on February 05, 2021, 08:13:13 AM
Hmm, interesting stuff. Wonder how much of it is true, if any...

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Probably in the minority here, but I'm excited at the prospect of more bat pony toys. I always thought those were a cute species design ^^ Was disappointed they never really made any toys of them.

If they make them, that would be nice. It would be nice altogether if they'd connect the show to the toyline again. We all remember how that worked out for FiM... they had all these characters in the show that were never made into figures. Even if it was a simple pony and not a fancy new mold.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 05, 2021, 08:44:49 AM
G3 also had separated pony species places, though it was because they were unaware of each other.

Anyway, I don't trust some rando fan claiming they have insider's knowledge, and will wait and see what Hasbro does.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: SunbeamV on February 05, 2021, 02:48:56 PM
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dunno how much of this is potentially legit or not but I'm sittin here crying like a little baby at the idea of having a disabled protagonist, or the kirins coming back as a genuine asian-adjacent culture because life sure would've been a heck of a lot easier to endure if I had access to media like that as a disabled mixed race/asian child
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: brightberry on February 05, 2021, 04:42:04 PM
To be honest they might have played it safer going for historical something for all of them, rather than modern culture. Mind you,
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Victorian = blah, I don't know why shows keep fixing on it. There are so many more interesting things they could have done.

I automatically expect in a US TV show that the west = the US and that's fine. I don't see a problem with it, I mean, they're making it, and that should mean it's not culturally insensitive. I wouldn't read it as representing the WHOLE west since Western culture is diverse between countries, but it's probably not going to offend anyone if it doesn't represent every single cultural facet. I just wonder if Victorian is meant to be a nod to here, and if so, that will be annoying. Especially if there's a faux-English accent involved. Please no. ><

I suppose with the Kirin aspect, it depends on how they do it, but I am fairly sure that China considers the Qilin to be theirs first and foremost. The Japanese word comes from the Chinese one, after all. I would be more worried about stereotypes in this context that might be taken amiss as well. Aside the relationships in Asia being a bit of a minefield, Western ideas of Japanese culture are a bit...narrow. :/ But we'll see. I may be overthinking it.

And all of this may not be accurate, so.

I will say this. I really like the idea of the MC having a wing disability. Depending on how they handle it, having a disabled MC in a kid's show is a potentially powerful thing.


I am not sure why I am spoilering since the whole thread is really about spoilers, but just in case :)


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Honestly, living in TX, I'm tired of the exaggerated accents in the media too.  I know a lot of Texans... including those living in more rural areas and they're sick of it too.  There is a thin line between showcasing another culture and looking down on it.  It's even worse when an outsider is trying to "save" people from it. 

I don't mind gentle lessons about caring and friendship but something about this whole story line reminds me of  Hunger Games.   :lol:

Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on February 05, 2021, 05:10:45 PM
To be honest they might have played it safer going for historical something for all of them, rather than modern culture. Mind you,
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Victorian = blah, I don't know why shows keep fixing on it. There are so many more interesting things they could have done.

I automatically expect in a US TV show that the west = the US and that's fine. I don't see a problem with it, I mean, they're making it, and that should mean it's not culturally insensitive. I wouldn't read it as representing the WHOLE west since Western culture is diverse between countries, but it's probably not going to offend anyone if it doesn't represent every single cultural facet. I just wonder if Victorian is meant to be a nod to here, and if so, that will be annoying. Especially if there's a faux-English accent involved. Please no. ><

I suppose with the Kirin aspect, it depends on how they do it, but I am fairly sure that China considers the Qilin to be theirs first and foremost. The Japanese word comes from the Chinese one, after all. I would be more worried about stereotypes in this context that might be taken amiss as well. Aside the relationships in Asia being a bit of a minefield, Western ideas of Japanese culture are a bit...narrow. :/ But we'll see. I may be overthinking it.

And all of this may not be accurate, so.

I will say this. I really like the idea of the MC having a wing disability. Depending on how they handle it, having a disabled MC in a kid's show is a potentially powerful thing.


I am not sure why I am spoilering since the whole thread is really about spoilers, but just in case :)


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Honestly, living in TX, I'm tired of the exaggerated accents in the media too.  I know a lot of Texans... including those living in more rural areas and they're sick of it too.  There is a thin line between showcasing another culture and looking down on it.  It's even worse when an outsider is trying to "save" people from it. 

I don't mind gentle lessons about caring and friendship but something about this whole story line reminds me of  Hunger Games.   :lol:


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I always hate it when they use a Texas accent for someone from Montana or Wyoming.  I know that they probably sound the same to other people but those of us who have lived there can definitely hear a difference.

I really hope that they don't rely too heavily on stereotypes.  I know that stereotypes exist for a reason but presenting only stereotypes is a disservice to everyone.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Ragamuffin on February 05, 2021, 10:23:49 PM
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I think there's a lot of potential for cute toys of these characters if Hasbro isn't lazy. Unicorns, alicorns, and pegasi are easy enough to imagine as toys since we've been getting toys of them for years. You could put glitter on their horns, wings, and hooves. Hippogriffs are harder to glitter-ify but at least you could give them a CM and put some on that. Bat ponies are similar enough to pegasi and not exciting for speculation. For the others here's what I imagine:

Kirin: Depends on the design: are they exactly like the ones from FiM? I don't think them having full manes or a tail like that is likely. They would have just a regular brushable mane and tail. Adding sculpting around the neck would make the head hard to move around so I'm not sure they would do that either. They could put glitter on the hooves, horn, and scales. Maybe even ditch the glitter on the scales and make them pearly?

Changelings: The fact that this is a "boy" changeling sets off red flags to me already since the designs for the boys in G4 were awful and repetitive. Wasn't a fan of Thorax's design but he grew on me, and it seems like Thorax's colouration is the norm for changelings. The iridescent beetle look is nice but I like Ocellus' design the most. She had so much potential, and if this boy's colour scheme is half as nice as her's, he could be so cute. Again, it depends on how similar they are in design to FiM changelings, but I'll assume theyre the same. They would HAVE to have a pearly, shimmery body for that beetle look, and clear glittery plastic for the "mane", tail, and wings. If not a molded "mane" and tail, then he should probably have tinsel in his hair.

Now that I think of it, kirin having scales like that is going to be so hard for Hasbro to do correctly. :lol: We're not going to have nice looking scales are we? They're just going to be printed on.



To be honest they might have played it safer going for historical something for all of them, rather than modern culture. Mind you,
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Victorian = blah, I don't know why shows keep fixing on it. There are so many more interesting things they could have done.

I automatically expect in a US TV show that the west = the US and that's fine. I don't see a problem with it, I mean, they're making it, and that should mean it's not culturally insensitive. I wouldn't read it as representing the WHOLE west since Western culture is diverse between countries, but it's probably not going to offend anyone if it doesn't represent every single cultural facet. I just wonder if Victorian is meant to be a nod to here, and if so, that will be annoying. Especially if there's a faux-English accent involved. Please no. ><

I suppose with the Kirin aspect, it depends on how they do it, but I am fairly sure that China considers the Qilin to be theirs first and foremost. The Japanese word comes from the Chinese one, after all. I would be more worried about stereotypes in this context that might be taken amiss as well. Aside the relationships in Asia being a bit of a minefield, Western ideas of Japanese culture are a bit...narrow. :/ But we'll see. I may be overthinking it.

And all of this may not be accurate, so.

I will say this. I really like the idea of the MC having a wing disability. Depending on how they handle it, having a disabled MC in a kid's show is a potentially powerful thing.


I am not sure why I am spoilering since the whole thread is really about spoilers, but just in case :)


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Honestly, living in TX, I'm tired of the exaggerated accents in the media too.  I know a lot of Texans... including those living in more rural areas and they're sick of it too.  There is a thin line between showcasing another culture and looking down on it.  It's even worse when an outsider is trying to "save" people from it. 

I don't mind gentle lessons about caring and friendship but something about this whole story line reminds me of  Hunger Games.   :lol:


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I'm in TX too, I've probably lived here for most of my life now (I hate to admit that). Texan accents aren't my favourite but they're not unbearable. A lot of people have a slight one around here but it's only really strong in older people (50+ or so). The stereotype that countryfolk MUST have a Texan accent is annoying, or that everyone with said accent is from the country, lives on a farm/ranch, etc. I thought Appljack was cute in the first season of FiM but I don't want to see this type of character again for a long time. It's not exactly original.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: StarSwirl05 on February 06, 2021, 05:36:03 AM
Here's hoping that is NOT what we're getting. All it says to me is "Why be original when we can be lazy?"
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Zapper on February 06, 2021, 07:17:40 AM
Yeah, the thing that makes me doubt the rumors the most is the claim the new "core" group won't have a regular pony in a franchise called My Little PONY ;)

Or at least that's what I cling to because I never liked FiM's portayal of Earth ponies as basically the muggles of Equestria. No magic or special powers for them.

I just can't stop thinking about how bad Equestria must be to need an activist pony and then I just :lol:

Like it's just so funny to me. Like are ponies fracking now?

I am laughing irl :lol:
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on February 06, 2021, 07:35:53 AM
Yeah, the thing that makes me doubt the rumors the most is the claim the new "core" group won't have a regular pony in a franchise called My Little PONY ;)

Agreed, not just because of the lack of an earth pony, but also because less than half of this supposed core group are ponies in genral. Hippogriffs I guess are kind of ponies but that's pushing the definition a bit. It would certainly be weird to have the new generation have so many non-ponies in the core cast when it's the My Little Pony franchise. I love the idea of making more toys for other species, but I think it would make more sense for those to just be other characters released alongside the ponies, rather than having them becoming ones that would get a bunch of releases constantly (assuming Hasbro still don't end up learning how to give us variety).
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Zapper on February 06, 2021, 09:09:14 AM
I agree. I think "variety" is a good term, much better suited than "diversity". "Making MLP more diverse" could totally backfire and having a bunch of nonponies that are then repeated over and over like the M6. Then they could say "see? They are no longer all ponies. Progress, diversity, good!" but it would be the same as before, just with a new roster of species.

Also, this might piss people off, but do we really have to pretend it's "exclusionary" to have MLP be about MLP? Like, I loved how FiM brought in the other species towards the end but aside from Flutterponies G1 was already doing that just fine and it was still centered on the main stars of the franchise: ponies.
Who are the people who say:"MLP is wrong for having so many MLPs,  hmpf! Fix it, bigots!" I don't have the faintest clue. So I take all these infos about a mixed main cast with a big grain of salt.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 06, 2021, 09:13:57 AM
I agree. I think "variety" is a good term, much better suited than "diversity". "Making MLP more diverse" could totally backfire and having a bunch of nonponies that are then repeated over and over like the M6. Then they could say "see? They are no longer all ponies. Progress, diversity, good!" but it would be the same as before, just with a new roster of species.

Also, this might piss people off, but do we really have to pretend it's "exclusionary" to have MLP be about MLP? Like, I loved how FiM brought in the other species towards the end but aside from Flutterponies G1 was already doing that just fine and it was still centered on the main stars of the franchise: ponies.
Who are the people who say:"MLP is wrong for having so many MLPs,  hmpf! Fix it, bigots!" I don't have the faintest clue. So I take all these infos about a mixed main cast with a big grain of salt.

Nicely spoken
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on February 06, 2021, 12:38:57 PM
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the supposed main cast all still read as "ponies" to me, honestly. i'm not quite understanding this criticism. unicorn, different kind of unicorn, pegasus, different kind of pegasus, different-er kind of pegasus (who doubles as a mermaid), bug pony for boy toy potential. the only thing being excluded is earth ponies, which seems more like toy marketing than a social statement.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 06, 2021, 01:33:31 PM
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the supposed main cast all still read as "ponies" to me, honestly. i'm not quite understanding this criticism. unicorn, different kind of unicorn, pegasus, different kind of pegasus, different-er kind of pegasus (who doubles as a mermaid), bug pony for boy toy potential. the only thing being excluded is earth ponies, which seems more like toy marketing than a social statement.

Again, they are the basis.

 Its one thing if fringe breeds don't come back each generation. Example, flutter ponies because of their fragile wings, sea ponies because they're difficult to stand perhaps. But the 3 main species, or at least 2 of the 3 species, has always been there. That's what makes people doubt.

Earthies are the cheapest and easiest to produce, since the company does not need to make special moulds for horns, wings, seahorse/fish tails and slots.

You can see that regular equines always outnumber other species in any company that has ever made fantasy horses. And Hasbro loves to cheap out on MLP these days.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Wardah on February 06, 2021, 01:48:41 PM
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the supposed main cast all still read as "ponies" to me, honestly. i'm not quite understanding this criticism. unicorn, different kind of unicorn, pegasus, different kind of pegasus, different-er kind of pegasus (who doubles as a mermaid), bug pony for boy toy potential. the only thing being excluded is earth ponies, which seems more like toy marketing than a social statement.
Again, they are the basis. Its one thing if fringe breeds don't come back each generation. Example, flutter ponies because of their fragile wings, sea ponies because they're difficult to stand perhaps, but the 3 main species, or at least 2 of the 3 species, has always been there. That's what makes some people doubt.

Earthies are the cheapest and easiest to produce, since the company does not need to make special moulds for horns, wings, seahorse/fish tail and slots.

You can see that regular equines always outnumber other species in any company that has ever made fantasy horses. And Hasbro loves to cheap out on MLP these days.

Maybe in the past. But these days toy fantasy horses are usually unicorns. Uni-verse, 5 Surprise Unicorns, and Poopsie all focus on unicorns and don't have any regular equines.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shadowperla on February 06, 2021, 06:03:59 PM
FiM verse again? And probably pony race split?
RIP MLP, you would be missed :'(
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Zapper on February 07, 2021, 04:54:01 AM
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the supposed main cast all still read as "ponies" to me, honestly. i'm not quite understanding this criticism. unicorn, different kind of unicorn, pegasus, different kind of pegasus, different-er kind of pegasus (who doubles as a mermaid), bug pony for boy toy potential. the only thing being excluded is earth ponies, which seems more like toy marketing than a social statement.

I guess it depends on the final designs we'll be getting. If they are all looking like the new ponies it'll just be fantasy ponies and that's ok with me. I guess my issue would be if all of the new species won't be considered ponies or looked drastically different (like the final form of the Changelings, they looked like deer).
Fun fact, the German dub of FiM kind of tried this with changing the species names a bit. Changelings were "Wechselponies", meaning "change ponies" but the name also implied them being related to "Wechselbalg" (our version of a changeling).

The Filly franchise did the different species thing pretty well, imo. They were all considered and looked like "Filly" but they were different tribes with different powers. Except they weren't all divided, they did trade with and visited each other. Finally, in the Filly Funtasia show they all go to a school together (sounds familiar, lol).

Before people think I want to poop on something I haven't even seen yet: no matter what the show will be, if the designs and art are nice I'll be into it ;)

Post Merge: February 07, 2021, 05:03:36 AM

Maybe in the past. But these days toy fantasy horses are usually unicorns. Uni-verse, 5 Surprise Unicorns, and Poopsie all focus on unicorns and don't have any regular equines.

Not with Schleich or Breyer, who are banking on normal horses but also fantasy horses and unicorns. They have a good mix. It'll depend on what Hasbro considers the bigger competition, I guess. MLP always had unicorns and now the market is saturated. Maybe that's why there are rumors about new species. Because I can't really pinpoint what other company makes bug ponies with antlers :lol: But did kids really love the changelings? That's yet another question. And will parents buy ponies that look like vampires when the vampire craze is considered to be over?
These species seem risky to me. I don't see how parents would buy these instead of a regular colorful pony with glitter on its butt.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Wardah on February 07, 2021, 09:11:14 AM
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the supposed main cast all still read as "ponies" to me, honestly. i'm not quite understanding this criticism. unicorn, different kind of unicorn, pegasus, different kind of pegasus, different-er kind of pegasus (who doubles as a mermaid), bug pony for boy toy potential. the only thing being excluded is earth ponies, which seems more like toy marketing than a social statement.

I guess it depends on the final designs we'll be getting. If they are all looking like the new ponies it'll just be fantasy ponies and that's ok with me. I guess my issue would be if all of the new species won't be considered ponies or looked drastically different (like the final form of the Changelings, they looked like deer).
Fun fact, the German dub of FiM kind of tried this with changing the species names a bit. Changelings were "Wechselponies", meaning "change ponies" but the name also implied them being related to "Wechselbalg" (our version of a changeling).

The Filly franchise did the different species thing pretty well, imo. They were all considered and looked like "Filly" but they were different tribes with different powers. Except they weren't all divided, they did trade with and visited each other. Finally, in the Filly Funtasia show they all go to a school together (sounds familiar, lol).

Before people think I want to poop on something I haven't even seen yet: no matter what the show will be, if the designs and art are nice I'll be into it ;)

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Maybe in the past. But these days toy fantasy horses are usually unicorns. Uni-verse, 5 Surprise Unicorns, and Poopsie all focus on unicorns and don't have any regular equines.

Not with Schleich or Breyer, who are banking on normal horses but also fantasy horses and unicorns. They have a good mix. It'll depend on what Hasbro considers the bigger competition, I guess. MLP always had unicorns and now the market is saturated. Maybe that's why there are rumors about new species. Because I can't really pinpoint what other company makes bug ponies with antlers :lol: But did kids really love the changelings? That's yet another question. And will parents buy ponies that look like vampires when the vampire craze is considered to be over?
These species seem risky to me. I don't see how parents would buy these instead of a regular colorful pony with glitter on its butt.

The new species do kinda seem risky but unicorns and pegasi are more popular than earth ponies. At least with the Mane 6 Rainbow Dash, Twilight, and Rarity seemed to sell better than Applejack and Pinkie.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 07, 2021, 09:35:30 AM
The new species do kinda seem risky but unicorns and pegasi are more popular than earth ponies. At least with the Mane 6 Rainbow Dash, Twilight, and Rarity seemed to sell better than Applejack and Pinkie.
Ah, memories from my early FiM days: Pegasi were the most popular species for characters followed by Unicorns, and then Earth ponies. Even today it feels like a lot of kids seem to be attatched to Pegasi or Unicorns.
The reasons for this are fairly easy to see. Unicorns have magic. Pegasi fly. FiM didn't show enough traits of Earth ponies for most kids to want to create Earth characters or anything. This is probably a bit different for the toyline, but introducing these ponies as ones with great powers and then not discussing how Earth ponies match up, if at all, will skew the viewerbase a bit.
Calling Changelings "Wechselponies" is really cute. I would love to see cutie marks on the new species to level out the playing field.
Batponies does feel pretty out of left field to me. They're popular in the older fanbase but I don't think so much in the younger ones.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 07, 2021, 11:26:35 AM
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the supposed main cast all still read as "ponies" to me, honestly. i'm not quite understanding this criticism. unicorn, different kind of unicorn, pegasus, different kind of pegasus, different-er kind of pegasus (who doubles as a mermaid), bug pony for boy toy potential. the only thing being excluded is earth ponies, which seems more like toy marketing than a social statement.
Again, they are the basis. Its one thing if fringe breeds don't come back each generation. Example, flutter ponies because of their fragile wings, sea ponies because they're difficult to stand perhaps, but the 3 main species, or at least 2 of the 3 species, has always been there. That's what makes some people doubt.

Earthies are the cheapest and easiest to produce, since the company does not need to make special moulds for horns, wings, seahorse/fish tail and slots.

You can see that regular equines always outnumber other species in any company that has ever made fantasy horses. And Hasbro loves to cheap out on MLP these days.

Maybe in the past. But these days toy fantasy horses are usually unicorns. Uni-verse, 5 Surprise Unicorns, and Poopsie all focus on unicorns and don't have any regular equines.

No, it still goes on today.

Most fakies are regular horses. There are some pegasus, unicorns, and winged unicorns, but the last one is rare.

Breyer does unicorns, but it does Deco horses more often then not.

Schleich and Safari Ltd. do unicorns, pegasus and hippocampi, but very seldom.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Zapper on February 07, 2021, 12:40:19 PM
The new species do kinda seem risky but unicorns and pegasi are more popular than earth ponies. At least with the Mane 6 Rainbow Dash, Twilight, and Rarity seemed to sell better than Applejack and Pinkie.
Ah, memories from my early FiM days: Pegasi were the most popular species for characters followed by Unicorns, and then Earth ponies. Even today it feels like a lot of kids seem to be attatched to Pegasi or Unicorns.
The reasons for this are fairly easy to see. Unicorns have magic. Pegasi fly. FiM didn't show enough traits of Earth ponies for most kids to want to create Earth characters or anything.

If it's true and Earthlings will be living in Westworld then I'd like to virtually slap the person who came up with it. AJ was lowest in popularity because she was a yeehawing, applebucking countrybumpkin and to add insult to injury she was orange, an unpopular color compared to pink or blue.
The rumors make it sound like all Earthlings will be AJ  :lol:

I somehow doubt that PINKie sold badly. She was the most produced, that's probably why we saw the most leftovers be her.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on February 07, 2021, 02:30:44 PM
The rumors make it sound like all Earthlings will be AJ  :lol:

gonna call earth ponies earthlings from now on  :lmao:

i hope we get some more orange/green ponies this time around, at least. bumblesweet was one of my favorite designs from G4.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: SunPony on February 07, 2021, 03:00:33 PM
The rumors make it sound like all Earthlings will be AJ  :lol:

gonna call earth ponies earthlings from now on  :lmao:

i hope we get some more orange/green ponies this time around, at least. bumblesweet was one of my favorite designs from G4.

Yes I'd love to see some green ponies of various shades!  Mint green...lime green...grass green.

I wonder why green ponies don't sell?  Are parents afraid they will get lost in the grass outside?  Do people just not like green? 
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: SpacePinto on February 07, 2021, 03:26:50 PM
gonna call earth ponies earthlings from now on  :lmao:

They were actually called that in G1.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on February 07, 2021, 04:05:00 PM
They were actually called that in G1.
really? i had no idea! that's great.

Yes I'd love to see some green ponies of various shades!  Mint green...lime green...grass green.

I wonder why green ponies don't sell?  Are parents afraid they will get lost in the grass outside?  Do people just not like green? 

i'm not sure! lyra got a few different figures and a couple plushes, so she must've sold okay. probably has something to do with hasbro leaning in to character recognition vs. variety, so maybe we'll just get "the green one." of course, that rule doesn't apply to pink ponies :P
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Zapper on February 08, 2021, 05:30:41 AM
I agree that we need more colors and color combos for G5. My favorite pony color is yellow followed by green. G4 had some yellows but the greenest we got was Sandbar right at the end of the franchise. We also had no true red ponies in G4 except for Big Mac and it took years until they produced him.

I would freak if they did a pony like G3 AJ or Waterfire again. I loved the color contrast.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 08, 2021, 10:10:21 AM
Yes to the variety in color combos.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Taffeta on February 08, 2021, 10:25:44 AM
I would consider Lyra more on the aqua side of the green equation than "green"...

But G1 didn't seem to have problems selling green ponies :/ And G3 did have Minty among others. It may just be a G4 thing (but Sandbar is green isn't he?).

Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 08, 2021, 10:29:09 AM
I would consider Lyra more on the aqua side of the green equation than "green"...

But G1 didn't seem to have problems selling green ponies :/ And G3 did have Minty among others. It may just be a G4 thing (but Sandbar is green isn't he?).

Mine is a pale mint. Merry May and Tea Love woulda been cute mainline ponies.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Carrehz on February 09, 2021, 02:44:00 PM
I was talking about the green thing the other day! (http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,399224.msg1842111.html#msg1842111) Apparently it's a problem with toys in general, not just MLPs, but I wonder why that is? :s I get why there aren't many grey/brown/black ponies, for example (dull colours, not as flashy as red/blue/etc), but green... I really don't see why that wouldn't be popular? Weird.

I agree Lyra's more of a minty blue-green than green. Minty's not too different a colour, either... I can't think of many non-Nirvana, definitely-green G1s. Let's see, Baby Leaper, Baby Splash, TAF Buttons (sorta yellowy but close enough), Baby Frosting (same), Tootsie, Cool Breeze, Hip Hop, Mimic, Minty.. uhh I think one of the Sparkles was green? Most of the 'green' ponies are really blue-green :s It's weird.

We neeeeed more green ponies. And red, yes please!! There are so few red ponies :(
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Esbayne on February 10, 2021, 08:22:14 PM
I would consider Lyra more on the aqua side of the green equation than "green"...

But G1 didn't seem to have problems selling green ponies :/ And G3 did have Minty among others. It may just be a G4 thing (but Sandbar is green isn't he?).



The actual brushable is more yellow, but has green hair. I didn't know he was supposed to be green until you said that and I looked him up, actually- and I have him, lol!
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: banditpony on February 11, 2021, 06:19:13 AM
I think Lyra is absolutely within the blue green color family (if you look at a traditional color wheel).

If people lump yellow-green ponies as "green", then it's fair enough to consider blue-green ponies as green as well. Both of those are tertiary colors on a standard color wheel.

I think it's also hard to "talk" colors, because we all kind of see color a different way. Some of us see more colors then others, or culture can influence our interpretation.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 11, 2021, 07:14:09 AM
Now we have a mention of a TV show (https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/02/11/hasbros-new-tv-and-film-segment-show-early-signs-o/), which I think we were all expecting, but this is the first we're hearing about it from an official source:
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And eOne will begin reimagining popular Hasbro franchises. My Little Pony is getting a TV show reboot, for example. Goldner said more upcoming projects will be announced at the company's investor day on February 25.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: banditpony on February 11, 2021, 07:17:33 AM
Now we have a mention of a TV show (https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/02/11/hasbros-new-tv-and-film-segment-show-early-signs-o/), which I think we were all expecting, but this is the first we're hearing about it from an official source:
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And eOne will begin reimagining popular Hasbro franchises. My Little Pony is getting a TV show reboot, for example. Goldner said more upcoming projects will be announced at the company's investor day on February 25.


ah, yay. News... well, sort of.  A date about upcoming news. lol.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on February 11, 2021, 07:22:17 AM
I think Lyra is absolutely within the blue green color family (if you look at a standardized color wheel).

If people lump yellow-green ponies as "green", then it's fair enough to consider blue-green ponies as green as well. Both of those are tertiary colors on a standard color wheel.

I think it's also hard to "talk" colors, because we all kind of see color a different way. Some of us see more colors then others, or culture can influence our interpretation.

That and there are so many variations of any color.  Human eyes can actually detect more greens than any other color.
 :frog: :snail: :slug: :money: :chili: :cuke: :broc: :apple: :shakefist: :toot: :mrgreen: :X :newpony: :jealous: :cold:
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Zapper on February 11, 2021, 11:02:43 AM
Now we have a mention of a TV show (https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/02/11/hasbros-new-tv-and-film-segment-show-early-signs-o/), which I think we were all expecting, but this is the first we're hearing about it from an official source:
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And eOne will begin reimagining popular Hasbro franchises. My Little Pony is getting a TV show reboot, for example. Goldner said more upcoming projects will be announced at the company's investor day on February 25.

Thanks for dedicating your time to dig up these articles. I would have never went to a website entitled "fool dot com" :lol:
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 12, 2021, 07:29:10 AM
In a turn that doesn't surprise anyone, (https://variety.com/2021/film/news/paramount-my-little-pony-movie-netflix-1234902328/) the movie's distribution has been picked up from Paramount by Netflix for worldwide distribution ASIDE from China, where eOne is doin' that.
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Paramount Pictures was originally set to distribute the film, which had been scheduled to open in theaters on Sept. 24, 2021. Hasbro’s entertainment studio Entertainment One produced the movie and will retain distribution rights in China.

Though the exact release date is unclear, “My Little Pony” is expected to land on Netflix later this year.
And directors:
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Robb Cullen and Jose Ucha directed the upcoming installment with Mark Fattibene. Cecil Kramer and Peter Lewis served as producers.
I tried to find the directors past filmography and didn't see much of interest.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Leave a Whisper on February 12, 2021, 08:08:05 AM
Makes sense. People don't wanna risk their kids.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: CloudyGlow on February 12, 2021, 10:45:29 AM
I'm so glad it isn't going to theaters. Because I wouldn't go. And I want to be able to see it as soon as I can
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Shrojjy on February 12, 2021, 11:40:11 AM
excited to see that it's going to netflix and not some random streaming app.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: banditpony on February 12, 2021, 12:52:55 PM
i'm bummed it's exclusive to netflix, it would of been nice on other platforms. but eh, it's understandable.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on February 12, 2021, 04:18:45 PM
Bummed because I don't have Netflix XD
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: Taffeta on February 13, 2021, 01:00:39 AM
I guess it makes sense on netflix, since EQG and such were on there as well. Probably still are.

I'm ok with it being netflix, because at least netflix is global.
Title: Re: G5 Media News
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 06, 2021, 10:19:09 AM
Who's ready for a longer threadddd.
Zipp Storm and Pipp Petals got their full names. We also have a Princess Petals trademark that may be related as it mentions the same word overload as the other media trademarks and also has a toy trademark. There's no mention of the rumored Big Mac lookin' guy.
Edit: There is another supposed rough draft viewing of the movie but it refers to Pipp as "Pipp Altitude" and Izzy is "Izzy Moonbeam". I'm inclined to believe any new "rough draft threads" less and less.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 06, 2021, 10:45:20 AM
Where did you hear that tailrust? Any pics of these new ones yet?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 06, 2021, 10:51:51 AM
Where did you hear that tailrust? Any pics of these new ones yet?
Pipp's Patent (https://uspto.report/TM/90546012)
Zipp's Patent (https://uspto.report/TM/90546054)
Princess Petal's Patent (https://uspto.report/TM/90546060)
There are two for each, I just linked whichever one came up first. One is for toys, the other movies.
No pictures yet, just the leaked bedsheets with Pipp and the silly little Zipp one in the OP.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 06, 2021, 11:17:54 AM
Huh. Thanks tailrust. I'm curious to see what these new ones look like?

Post Merge: March 06, 2021, 01:38:43 PM

So Pipp is Princess Petals Pipp? Hooray for alliteration
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Shrojjy on March 06, 2021, 04:17:58 PM
interesting! i'm very curious about pipp- she's clearly not a regular pegasus, and the original post that leaked the names also mentioned that she was smaller. maybe she's the daughter of princess petals? i'm not trusting the rough draft posts either anymore lol.

kiiiinda disappointed about it looking like just a mane 5 with one boy. i'm predicting the toy line will be equal proportions of sunny/izzy/pipp, then a little less zipp, and then the occasional hitch toy.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 06, 2021, 05:01:24 PM
interesting! i'm very curious about pipp- she's clearly not a regular pegasus, and the original post that leaked the names also mentioned that she was smaller. maybe she's the daughter of princess petals? i'm not trusting the rough draft posts either anymore lol.

kiiiinda disappointed about it looking like just a mane 5 with one boy. i'm predicting the toy line will be equal proportions of sunny/izzy/pipp, then a little less zipp, and then the occasional hitch toy.

Hopefully it won't come to that. Although I agree we'll likely be seeing a lot of Sunny and Izzy, since it's starting with a movie. As long as we get a butt ton of new ponies, whether they're toy only, or in the show that's fine.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on March 06, 2021, 06:54:41 PM
As long as we get a butt ton of new ponies, whether they're toy only, or in the show that's fine.

For sure! I'm really hoping Hasbro don't repeat the mistake they made with G4 again with G5. We need variety!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: banditpony on March 06, 2021, 07:11:40 PM
As long as we get a butt ton of new ponies, whether they're toy only, or in the show that's fine.

For sure! I'm really hoping Hasbro don't repeat the mistake they made with G4 again with G5. We need variety!

I don't see how it was a mistake when it was a financial success. I understand it's not what a lot of people like here, but the writing on the wall existed since the end of G3... I have a hard time seeing MLP going back to how it was.

But we'll see.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 06, 2021, 08:29:23 PM
Where did you hear that tailrust? Any pics of these new ones yet?
Pipp's Patent (https://uspto.report/TM/90546012)
Zipp's Patent (https://uspto.report/TM/90546054)
Princess Petal's Patent (https://uspto.report/TM/90546060)
There are two for each, I just linked whichever one came up first. One is for toys, the other movies.
No pictures yet, just the leaked bedsheets with Pipp and the silly little Zipp one in the OP.
And she shall be Pippenpaddleopsocopolis...the third!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Zapper on March 07, 2021, 12:10:20 AM
Zipp Storm? Why not something that sounds like an actual last name, like "Zipp Zapper"? I dunno, it would be a really nice name. Not biased or anything.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 07, 2021, 08:11:16 AM
Zipp Storm? Why not something that sounds like an actual last name, like "Zipp Zapper"? I dunno, it would be a really nice name. Not biased or anything.

Zipp Zapper security pony tazes do-badders with extreme justice!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 13, 2021, 08:58:27 PM
No other news yet. There's another rumor but this one is laughable.
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1. That's a dumb movie title.
2. The release month is September according to the investor event.
3. There is a typo on the second director, Jose.
4. I'm pretty sure they never refer to it as the toy line "created by Bonnie Zacherle" internally. It would be Hasbro, if anything.
The synopsis is pulled from the ET article a few weeks back.
The title just makes me think about the ponies drinking wine.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Mrs. Prospector on March 13, 2021, 09:34:09 PM
No other news yet. There's another rumor but this one is laughable.
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1. That's a dumb movie title.
2. The release month is September according to the investor event.
3. There is a typo on the second director, Jose.
4. I'm pretty sure they never refer to it as the toy line "created by Bonnie Zacherle" internally. It would be Hasbro, if anything.
The synopsis is pulled from the ET article a few weeks back.
The title just makes me think about the ponies drinking wine.

Not to mention they spell Dana Terrace "Terrance". You'd think an "official document" would spell names right!

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I've also found discussions of another laughable "leak", on a known veeery sketchy site, featuring a pony activist named Maya Hartsworth (the name styling of the new ponies may be human-esque, but at least they're still cutesy and whimsical!), and she wants to steal the Elements of Harmony to drain the magic from Equestria. There was a war between Twilight and the other princesses that led to the events of the movie? And it ends with Sunny literally shooting Maya?  Apparently the phrase "get the hell out of my face" is also spoken. This is obviously fake, as it has some elements that would never be in a My Little Pony movie, let alone any kids movie. But it made me laugh at how bad fanfic-y it was, and that whoever posted it assumed people would believe it!
They also misname two of the ponies as Izzy Moonbeam and Pipp Altitude 

A LOT of false information will be posted on various MLP-related sites, this tends to happen whenever something hyped-up within the fandom is about to be released. I remember there being lots of leaks about alleged episode titles in the hiatus between s4 and s5 that were just as obviously false. I would encourage everybody to take any information not directly released by Hasbro/Netflix with a grain of salt.

Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Pinkie21 on March 14, 2021, 04:43:43 AM
I hope that thing is fake.  And I really hope that cast list is fake.  Other than Daniel Kaluuya and Susan Egan, I can't stand anyone in that list.  But it does look fake, especially with that title and that "based on a toy line by Bonnie Zacherle".  Probably a thing made by some random fan.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 14, 2021, 05:59:20 AM
I love the Sunny gun rumor! She's a horse!! How she gonna shoot. Her mouth? How she pick it up?? She got hooves...
I think after the names were revealed, people are more trusting of any information they see there...I posted about this one because I've seen a few people taking it as fact on Instagram where the Maya one seemed to fizzle out once we talked about the gun and stuff.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Carrehz on March 14, 2021, 08:21:58 AM
pffffhaha, the gun one XD I love silly fan rumours.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 14, 2021, 08:22:38 AM
I love the Sunny gun rumor! She's a horse!! How she gonna shoot. Her mouth? How she pick it up?? She got hooves...
I think after the names were revealed, people are more trusting of any information they see there...I posted about this one because I've seen a few people taking it as fact on Instagram where the Maya one seemed to fizzle out once we talked about the gun and stuff.

She will suddenly be possessed and then morph into the spirit of Quick Draw McGraw of course.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 14, 2021, 10:16:51 AM
She will suddenly be possessed and then morph into the spirit of Quick Draw McGraw of course.
Her cutie mark is a shooting star...of course!!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Carrehz on March 14, 2021, 01:06:51 PM
She will suddenly be possessed and then morph into the spirit of Quick Draw McGraw of course.
Her cutie mark is a shooting star...of course!!

omg you guys :silly: :lmao: I'm crying!!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: kestral_kitsune on March 14, 2021, 03:25:45 PM
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i really like her design
 
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on March 15, 2021, 04:38:24 AM
So I wonder how long after the events of FiM this takes place... Mostly because if there will be any mention of winged unicorns (sorry still not a fan of the other term lol). I'm mostly curious because Twilight and Cadance would have a limited lifespan unlike Celestia and Luna and Flurryheart.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Flitter on March 15, 2021, 07:18:18 AM
There’s a fan theory that FiM is a TV show in the G5 world. Seeing that screenshot again, that would make more sense for Sunny to be a fan rather than  a pony who reveres old history or legends, given the posters, figures, pins, etc. she has of the mane6.
Idk, the book she’s looking at in the other screenshot with Izzy and the Pegasus guards looks pretty old though. Really hard to tell how long ago or what FiM is in G5 so far. I’m interested to find out.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Leave a Whisper on March 15, 2021, 07:48:57 AM
Hopefully none of the mane suxx will appear as a force ghost to guide this group of plucky pals along the way. That would be so lame.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: LadyAmalthea on March 15, 2021, 09:13:44 AM
There’s a fan theory that FiM is a TV show in the G5 world. Seeing that screenshot again, that would make more sense for Sunny to be a fan rather than  a pony who reveres old history or legends, given the posters, figures, pins, etc. she has of the mane6.
Idk, the book she’s looking at in the other screenshot with Izzy and the Pegasus guards looks pretty old though. Really hard to tell how long ago or what FiM is in G5 so far. I’m interested to find out.

I actually like this theory better than some of the others. That is, as long as it is just kind of an Easter egg-type thing that stays mostly in the background...a toy here or a poster there, but no mane 6 coming back from the dead or appearing in visions, etc.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: Zapper on March 16, 2021, 06:52:19 AM
Hopefully none of the mane suxx will appear as a force ghost to guide this group of plucky pals along the way.

That would be hilarious to me since G4 never liked to acknowledge death. I think it would be possible to see a flashback to the M6.

There’s a fan theory that FiM is a TV show in the G5 world.

If that was the case it would be really cringey. No offense to anyone who enjoys such things but I always shudder when shows try to go meta like that. The new Ducktales cartoon did that with Darkwing Duck and it was so weird and unnecessary and just reminded me that I'm too old for cartoons :lol:

So far my money is on the M6 simply being famous/important ponies from the past.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: SpacePinto on March 16, 2021, 12:29:30 PM
Hopefully none of the mane suxx will appear as a force ghost to guide this group of plucky pals along the way.

That would be hilarious to me since G4 never liked to acknowledge death. I think it would be possible to see a flashback to the M6.

That's what I find kind of weird about children's entertainment these days, when I was a kid it wasn't unusual even for cartoons intended for little children to show at least some basic, symbolic deptiction of death like a ghost emerging from a tombstone at a cemetery, these days if something isn't rated at least PG they will always tread carefully around the topic, trying to be as indirect as possible.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on March 16, 2021, 03:55:41 PM
Hopefully none of the mane suxx will appear as a force ghost to guide this group of plucky pals along the way.

That would be hilarious to me since G4 never liked to acknowledge death. I think it would be possible to see a flashback to the M6.

That's what I find kind of weird about children's entertainment these days, when I was a kid it wasn't unusual even for cartoons intended for little children to show at least some basic, symbolic deptiction of death like a ghost emerging from a tombstone at a cemetery, these days if something isn't rated at least PG they will always tread carefully around the topic, trying to be as indirect as possible.
That actually reminds me of something I watched related to localization of Japanese Anime to other parts of the word (specifically North America). I have to find the video again but yeah I wouldn't put it past the G5 movie/show creators doesn't some stunt like that
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 3/6
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 09, 2021, 09:44:42 AM
We have animation for Zipp Storm and Pipp Petals! It's on the MLP instagram, but I reuploaded it onto Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4514P5Emtxo) for IG-less folk.
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Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: serena-hime on April 09, 2021, 10:00:41 AM
Absolutely LOVE Zipp, Pipp is quite adorable too- it looks like her wings are covered with clouds? They kind of remind me of Flutter Pony wings actually. And the tiara...I wonder if she's a princess of some sort?

Not super keen on the phone, I expected this generation to be more modern but not THAT modern lol. The hoof-shaped Popsocket on the back of the phone is hilarious though.

Still really not interested in the toys, but the animation and character designs look exceptional- if not still a little too human, imo. Get rid of the eyebrows pls
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: SaraMari on April 09, 2021, 10:32:34 AM
The human like faces kinda creep me out, and the manes seem to be on thier heads not down the neck
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: LadyAmalthea on April 09, 2021, 10:36:16 AM
I really like Zipp's design, too! Both ponies look good, even though I'm not a fan of the eyebrows. Can't wait to check out the animation.

Not sure how I feel about them using technology...I guess we can throw out any hope of it being any kind of fantasy pony world. Oh well.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Luxrayx on April 09, 2021, 10:43:29 AM
Ooh, I love that they're going with different wing designs for each pegasus! Although, and this is pedantic- the wings they chose for Zipp don't look quite right. Long, narrow wings like that are built for slow, long-time gliding - not speed - but Zipp's name and design definitely make her out to be the Rainbow Dash of this generation. Then again, ponies have smartphones now, so clearly nothing matters anymore. XD
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on April 09, 2021, 11:14:20 AM
Not sure how I feel about them using technology...I guess we can throw out any hope of it being any kind of fantasy pony world. Oh well.

In Tales, didn't they drive cars, use computers and watch television?  Maybe they're going for that kind of vibe.  :shrug:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Shrojjy on April 09, 2021, 11:33:55 AM
they look sooo good! love the idea of different wings. also, thinking this means sunny and hitch are not related.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 09, 2021, 12:48:54 PM
Boo on the human faces,  and Zipp's head looks like a paintbrush. Shame, she's got nice colors. Kinda reverse Gusty. And Pipp's wings went from swablu to cotton candy.


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I really like Zipp's design, too! Both ponies look good, even though I'm not a fan of the eyebrows. Can't wait to check out the animation.

Not sure how I feel about them using technology...I guess we can throw out any hope of it being any kind of fantasy pony world. Oh well.

Danny brought his camera and tape recorder along.  Trucker and Tug had a monster truck and ship. Paradise Estate has a tv and a fridge. Tales was set in modern suburbia.

Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: LadyAmalthea on April 09, 2021, 01:57:30 PM
Now I can't unsee the paintbrush head. XD Dang.

I didn't mean to imply that MLP has never employed technology in its animation in the past, just that it's kind of a clue to the tone this one will take, if that makes any sense. Looks like it will be more of a modern world, much like Tales (at least I assume--I'm not too familiar with Tales; I put it on for my son once while we had a week-long free trial of Starz, and only sorta watched out of the corner of my eye while I did some housework--most of what I know about it is from hearing you guys talk about it) rather than a medieval-type setting. (Medieval isn't the right word I'm looking for, either...darn brain cells are going awol after a week of no sleep!)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Ponyfan on April 09, 2021, 02:25:04 PM
These don't appeal to me from the animation alone.  That being said I will wait until I see the toys before I decide if I like them or not.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 09, 2021, 03:41:17 PM
Now I can't unsee the paintbrush head. XD Dang.

I didn't mean to imply that MLP has never employed technology in its animation in the past, just that it's kind of a clue to the tone this one will take, if that makes any sense. Looks like it will be more of a modern world, much like Tales (at least I assume--I'm not too familiar with Tales; I put it on for my son once while we had a week-long free trial of Starz, and only sorta watched out of the corner of my eye while I did some housework--most of what I know about it is from hearing you guys talk about it) rather than a medieval-type setting. (Medieval isn't the right word I'm looking for, either...darn brain cells are going awol after a week of no sleep!)

May you have many good nights rest
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Pinkie21 on April 09, 2021, 04:55:31 PM
Oh I looove Zipp's design!  She and Izzy are quickly becoming my favorites, though I guess we'll see what happens when we discover their personalities.  I'm getting a "Rainbow Dash" vibe from Zipp's stance in the image of her, and I would love for her to be tough and loyal, just without the Dash ego LOL. 
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on April 09, 2021, 06:23:13 PM
G5 is supposed to still be taking place in Equestria, but some time after G4, correct? It makes sense the technology would have advanced in that time.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Shadowperla on April 09, 2021, 07:29:58 PM
So "my little human", it is gross.
And oh, not a snooty pony again :(
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: PinkieLopBun on April 10, 2021, 04:12:43 AM
And oh, not a snooty pony again :(
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe we know anything about either of their personalities.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 10, 2021, 06:20:27 AM
To me Zipp looks serious and no-nonsense. But its hard to say for sure.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: RoseNoire on April 10, 2021, 07:39:02 AM
I was digging their design even though it looks like "basic refined 3D Disney movies" designs (see : Tangled, Frozen, Moana, Raya and the last Dragon). I particularly enjoy the variety in wing shapes, horns and those feathered hooves. I'm not certain I will enjoy the tone of the movie now that I see they get that contemporary as to having smartphones.

Shame...Wait and see, but they set my hopes lower.  :blush:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on April 10, 2021, 07:54:44 AM
Absolutely LOVE Zipp, Pipp is quite adorable too- it looks like her wings are covered with clouds? They kind of remind me of Flutter Pony wings actually. And the tiara...I wonder if she's a princess of some sort?

Not super keen on the phone, I expected this generation to be more modern but not THAT modern lol. The hoof-shaped Popsocket on the back of the phone is hilarious though.

Still really not interested in the toys, but the animation and character designs look exceptional- if not still a little too human, imo. Get rid of the eyebrows pls
I recall someone finding the toy information or some sort of information. Pipp is supposed to be something akin to a popstar, so something like the Princess of Pop so to speak.

According to a plushie reveal recently, Pipp has a music note symbol with a crown shape on top while Zipp has a 2 colored lightning bolt symbol with again a crown shape on top. (I wonder if they are twins or how far apart in age they are)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Taffeta on April 10, 2021, 08:52:19 AM
pffffhaha, the gun one XD I love silly fan rumours.

Why a gun? Why not a cannon? :) Much easier for a horse to fire...just light the fuse and away we go!

On the phone - let's not forget that Hip Holly had a cellphone, didn't she? ;)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Shaiyeh on April 10, 2021, 10:22:02 AM
I loveeeeee them! Pipp is adorable!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Star Catcher on April 10, 2021, 12:58:47 PM
I love Pipp but struggle with Zipp.

I think the short manes make their faces look extra humanoid.
It is a bit uncanny for me. I had the same issue with Hitch.
Also not a big fan of her wings.
Her pose/animation suggests she looks fierce but her wings look kinda "thin" and not fierce at all? Not sure if that makes sense.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Ragamuffin on April 10, 2021, 06:59:02 PM
...but her wings look kinda "thin"...

I noticed that on the guards, too. They're paper-thin, literally like they took some crafting feathers and stuck them together. And really only one layer, too. Their wings have no meat to them.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on April 10, 2021, 08:17:45 PM
They seem to want to keep the build of G4 but change some things... I can't imagine the original G4 wings working in this design (I'm not a hug fan of Pipp's wings... they remind me a little bit of feathered fans). They just cannot win with the style and making wings fit properly.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: ridi on April 11, 2021, 07:18:12 AM
Ahh please tell me Pipp still has her lovely brown eyes? It's a little hard to tell... Those leaked plush had me really worried but I was hoping they were factory rejects...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Shrojjy on April 11, 2021, 09:24:45 AM
Ahh please tell me Pipp still has her lovely brown eyes? It's a little hard to tell... Those leaked plush had me really worried but I was hoping they were factory rejects...

didn't even consider that, it definitely looks like she has green eyes. her hair also looks more cool-toned like the smaller image on the bedsheets. maybe changed so her and zipp read better as siblings?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Leave a Whisper on April 11, 2021, 09:52:27 AM
I'm thinking one of them is the older sibling.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: Flitter on April 11, 2021, 10:57:21 AM
I think Pipp looks cute. I’m not digging Zipp’s hairstyle much.
I am curious about them not having cutie marks in any of the screenshots or animations, if they’ll get them in the movie or if those were just left out of the promos.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: MJNSEIFER on April 12, 2021, 04:15:20 AM
Not sure how I feel about them using technology...I guess we can throw out any hope of it being any kind of fantasy pony world. Oh well.
Not necessarily, because you can combine fantasy with technology.  Not saying that this is what they're going to do, but I've always felt that they blend together well, mostly because my  first and second favorite Final Fantasy games were pretty modern and used technology, but still had the fantasy element, so technology never took away from fantasy to me.

I respect your opinion, of course, and I'm not saying this will happen, but it could.  Like it could be an extremely fantasy like world, where they happen to have technology in or something?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on April 12, 2021, 04:25:47 AM
I think Pipp looks cute. I’m not digging Zipp’s hairstyle much.
I am curious about them not having cutie marks in any of the screenshots or animations, if they’ll get them in the movie or if those were just left out of the promos.
I know in the first debut of Sunny I could see her symbol. It was really hard to see though because of where it was. I don't think they will have them on both sides of the pony though (despite the plushies having them on both sides).

Notice how 95% of the time they are showing the pony's left flank instead of the right?

This is really just a guess though.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: hilamb on April 13, 2021, 10:48:01 PM
We have animation for Zipp Storm and Pipp Petals! It's on the MLP instagram, but I reuploaded it onto Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4514P5Emtxo) for IG-less folk.
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Oooh, I like them alot! Pipp seems cute, and Zipp kinda serious, but cool.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: SunPony on April 15, 2021, 05:29:51 PM
Wow, Zipp's wings are surprisingly bird-accurate!  Seems like their manes are really short, though.  I mean, that they don't go far down their necks.  I wonder if that is related to how the toys are constructed.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 30, 2021, 10:03:24 AM
Dum de dum dum dum.
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From the Russian licensing event.
The G5MLP wiki is up to date now with new renders. I also extracted some backgrounds, not sure how much interest there is for that.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/9
Post by: mopthebunny on April 30, 2021, 10:08:44 AM
Dum de dum dum dum.
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From the Russian licensing event.
The G5MLP wiki is up to date now with new renders. I also extracted some backgrounds, not sure how much interest there is for that.

Doesn't this mean we're overdue for a trailer?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 30, 2021, 10:13:11 AM
Yep. I was really hoping it would be out maybe today, but the weekly MLP IG post just seems to be more Pony Life stuff. I'm hoping for a teaser in a few weeks then, I'm just assuming this got pushed off. I'm not sure when the actual presentation was posted.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: mopthebunny on April 30, 2021, 10:21:20 AM
I suppose with the time zone being in the US there is still a CHANCE for today, but I don't think so. That's a pity, though, I would really love to see a trailer! I want to make an other YT video breaking G5 stuff down XD
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: SunPony on May 02, 2021, 09:38:41 AM
Did we hear at one point that one of the new characters was disabled in some way?  And there was speculation that it was a pegasus that had a wing problem?  Or am I imagining things?  When I saw the clear images of Pipp's wings I assumed she is the disabled character due to her wings lacking properly formed flight feathers.  But I haven't seen any other commentary on it, so now I'm wondering if my memory of there even being a disabled character is even right...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 02, 2021, 09:55:55 AM
That was from an old 4chungus thread which claimed to see an early draft of the movie. I have it still quoted or referenced on the Wiki's leaks pages, but I'm considering removing it since we don't seem to be getting any hints that any of what was in the draft remains.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: SunPony on May 02, 2021, 10:13:25 AM
Ah ha!  In that case I'll just wait to see how it all pans out.  Hopefully the trailer will come soon!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 17, 2021, 05:46:11 PM
Neww cover image from the Facebook!
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Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 17, 2021, 06:52:05 PM
 :nope: I wish they'd quit with the front angles.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: Mrs. Prospector on May 17, 2021, 08:12:43 PM
:nope: I wish they'd quit with the front angles.

I agree. All of them except Zipp have the exact same expression and pose too. It seems like most of these promotional images, including the 2D art on the bedsheets, have the ponies looking straight ahead and smiling with a wide open mouth, and if not that, then they’re making the DreamWorks Face.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: SpacePinto on May 18, 2021, 05:12:52 AM
Those faces are so annoying.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: Flitter on May 18, 2021, 07:56:27 AM
I’m just imagining the movie, and all the ponies creepily facing forward through the entire thing because that’s all they designed for  :yikes:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 18, 2021, 08:15:03 AM
I’m just imagining the movie, and all the ponies creepily facing forward through the entire thing because that’s all they designed for  :yikes:

Oy. That would be very bad if they did. :really: :facepalm:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: StarSwirl05 on May 18, 2021, 09:44:14 AM
I’m just imagining the movie, and all the ponies creepily facing forward through the entire thing because that’s all they designed for  :yikes:
Sounds like a horror flick then.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: SunPony on May 18, 2021, 11:32:35 AM
Pipp's wings look a bit more... Effective... In that image compared to the other images and video I have seen of her.
Interesting.  As for the faces, I still think Sunny is pretty cute, but Hitch at that angle is really uncanny valley to me  :lol:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 18, 2021, 11:51:57 AM
These people cannot make up their minds about Pipp's wing design.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: Carrehz on May 18, 2021, 12:50:35 PM
I like the wings much better here, but yeah, they really do look different to the other pics? rather than just being "the same but at a different angle"... if that makes sense...

Their faces are so uncanny >_< Especially Pipp's, idk what it is about her right eye but it's super creepy...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: Wardah on May 18, 2021, 01:17:39 PM
I don't really find the front view too bad but that could just be because it's CG and my eyes are better than average at picking up depth in 3 dimensional objects. I think it would look really off in the kinda art style G4 had and most 2D art I've seen of them enforces that theory. Tbh even G4 sometimes looked awkward in some poses.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: TwilightStarshine on May 19, 2021, 11:05:19 AM
I love them!  :lovey:

They remind me of G2 ponies, and I am happy to see those subtle retro influences. They are slim, have long legs and visible hoofs like G2. Their head reminds me of G3.5 and G4.5. I did not really know what to think of that tbh, but I do think they look very cute. Personally really don't mind that they look like Pixar or Disney characters. Their faces look very expressive- I am sure kids will love them.

I was not a big fan of the Sunny styling pony when I first saw her (huge head, angular body, poor picture quality), but I do love Pipp. She is a little bit chubbier than Sunny. She's just so cute! I can't wait to see pictures of Zipp and Izzy.

:frolic:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 22, 2021, 06:11:30 AM
I like the wings much better here, but yeah, they really do look different to the other pics? rather than just being "the same but at a different angle"... if that makes sense...

Their faces are so uncanny >_< Especially Pipp's, idk what it is about her right eye but it's super creepy...

Moonbow is cross-eyed.   :lol:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 22, 2021, 06:12:15 AM
Movie title is "My Little Pony: Pony Tale" according to a post made by Malaysian Netflix on their Twitter about upcoming films.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/22, Movie Title!
Post by: MJNSEIFER on May 22, 2021, 06:31:54 AM
Nice enough sounding name, bit close to My Little Pony Tales, but I feel it works.

Might have worked better with an "A" in front of the subtitle, but... yeah, I think I like it.   :good:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 22, 2021, 07:49:02 AM
Movie title is "My Little Pony: Pony Tale" according to a post made by Malaysian Netflix on their Twitter about upcoming films.

I wish Hasbro would get creative with their MLP movie names, and not just go for the laziest route.

My Little Pony the Movie
My Little Pony the Movie
My Little Pony: Pony Tale

Like wooow. Is it that hard to think of a subtitle?  :pout:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/22, Movie Title!
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on May 22, 2021, 09:06:25 AM
I just automatically think My Little Pony Tales with that naming...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/22, Movie Title!
Post by: Carrehz on May 22, 2021, 09:46:41 AM
It is pretty uncreative... but at least they didn't name it "My Little Pony: The Movie" again ;) I still can't get over them naming the G4 movie that. It's so confusing! Not to mention unoriginal.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: StarSwirl05 on May 22, 2021, 11:28:37 AM
Movie title is "My Little Pony: Pony Tale" according to a post made by Malaysian Netflix on their Twitter about upcoming films.

I wish Hasbro would get creative with their MLP movie names, and not just go for the laziest route.

My Little Pony the Movie
My Little Pony the Movie
My Little Pony: Pony Tale

Like wooow. Is it that hard to think of a subtitle?  :pout:
At least it's better than My Little Pony: The Movie About Ponies :lol:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 4/30
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 22, 2021, 11:35:26 AM
Movie title is "My Little Pony: Pony Tale" according to a post made by Malaysian Netflix on their Twitter about upcoming films.

I wish Hasbro would get creative with their MLP movie names, and not just go for the laziest route.

My Little Pony the Movie
My Little Pony the Movie
My Little Pony: Pony Tale

Like wooow. Is it that hard to think of a subtitle?  :pout:
At least it's better than My Little Pony: The Movie About Ponies :lol:

:snicker: That sounds like it could be a decent parody.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/22, Movie Title!
Post by: Ragamuffin on May 23, 2021, 05:25:58 AM
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Didn't realise this was the media thread and not the toy thread. :lol: Enjoy these ponies though!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/22, Movie Title!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 23, 2021, 08:17:53 AM
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Didn't realise this was the media thread and not the toy thread. :lol: Enjoy these ponies though!

Those are probably the best looking toys I've seen thus far.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/22, Movie Title!
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on May 23, 2021, 07:15:09 PM
Man on one hand yeah I'm glad they didn't just go with a third "My Little Pony: The Movie". But they definitely could have chosen a name that wasn't that close to existing pony media...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/22, Movie Title!
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on May 28, 2021, 07:25:02 AM
So MLP posted a better look at Hitch's symbol
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Seems to be a badge instead of a shield (kind of glad it has no reference to any current G4 pony)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/22, Movie Title!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 28, 2021, 08:00:24 AM
He's been described as a Sheriff on the latest reel. If he's a cop, I at least want him to be a cowboy cop.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/22, Movie Title!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 28, 2021, 09:24:18 AM
He's been described as a Sheriff on the latest reel. If he's a cop, I at least want him to be a cowboy cop.

Ladies and Gents,  we have our Quick Draw McGraw.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 29, 2021, 08:06:27 AM
Nah forget that previous title, Boulder says its My Little Pony: A New Generation now.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 29, 2021, 08:55:17 AM
I just realized blue pegasus guard has purple hair. How pretty.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Carrehz on May 29, 2021, 12:30:52 PM
Huh, okay then. I guess that's somewhat more original than the previous title? I think I liked Pony Tale a little better though.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 29, 2021, 12:43:10 PM
Nah forget that previous title, Boulder says its My Little Pony: A New Generation now.

A bit generic,  but better then before.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: starrynights on May 29, 2021, 10:56:45 PM
I like the new title a lot more.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: LadyAmalthea on May 30, 2021, 05:52:27 AM
I don't like it because it implies a sameness to the g4/FiM world...basically just a continuation of that with new characters. I mean, it's something we all suspected all along, but the confirmation is a let-down. I was hoping for something completely new and exciting. Guess Hasbro didn't want to let go of that sweet FiM money.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 30, 2021, 06:21:40 AM
I don't like it because it implies a sameness to the g4/FiM world...basically just a continuation of that with new characters. I mean, it's something we all suspected all along, but the confirmation is a let-down. I was hoping for something completely new and exciting. Guess Hasbro didn't want to let go of that sweet FiM money.

I thought that's what it was? And it is a new generation, with new characters.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: CloudyGlow on May 30, 2021, 06:29:14 AM
The official MLP youtube channel now has a handsome Hitch banner
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I wonder what the wings mean
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on May 30, 2021, 06:55:06 AM
Nah forget that previous title, Boulder says its My Little Pony: A New Generation now.
Sounds like Boruto the next generation, lol

I don't like it because it implies a sameness to the g4/FiM world...basically just a continuation of that with new characters. I mean, it's something we all suspected all along, but the confirmation is a let-down. I was hoping for something completely new and exciting. Guess Hasbro didn't want to let go of that sweet FiM money.

I thought that's what it was? And it is a new generation, with new characters.
It is a new generation with new characters but in the same world as FiM, just sometime after the final events of FiM.

The official MLP youtube channel now has a handsome Hitch banner
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I wonder what the wings mean
The wings seem strange to add since he is an earth pony (kind of reminds me of the wings on the Wonderbolts badge)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 30, 2021, 07:13:16 AM
Nah forget that previous title, Boulder says its My Little Pony: A New Generation now.
Sounds like Boruto the next generation, lol

I don't like it because it implies a sameness to the g4/FiM world...basically just a continuation of that with new characters. I mean, it's something we all suspected all along, but the confirmation is a let-down. I was hoping for something completely new and exciting. Guess Hasbro didn't want to let go of that sweet FiM money.

I thought that's what it was? And it is a new generation, with new characters.
It is a new generation with new characters but in the same world as FiM, just sometime after the final events of FiM.

The official MLP youtube channel now has a handsome Hitch banner
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I wonder what the wings mean
The wings seem strange to add since he is an earth pony (kind of reminds me of the wings on the Wonderbolts badge)

That part about Boruto cracked me up. XD
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Harmonie on May 30, 2021, 07:57:36 AM
I'm fine with the show being like FiM... I just wish that they had gone with a different design for the characters. We pretty much got by far the worst from the ones that were leaked. I just don't much care for it.

There were so many neat designs in the leak, but alas we get the one that I cringed at.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 30, 2021, 08:25:58 AM
I'm fine with the show being like FiM... I just wish that they had gone with a different design for the characters. We pretty much got by far the worst from the ones that were leaked. I just don't much care for it.

There were so many neat designs in the leak, but alas we get the one that I cringed at.

Yeah, I feel ya on the design.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Ponyfan on May 30, 2021, 10:48:51 AM
Nah forget that previous title, Boulder says its My Little Pony: A New Generation now.


This makes me think of Star Trek the Next generation. :lol:


Ponyfan
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Carrehz on May 30, 2021, 12:48:11 PM
My first thought on the title was "Gremlins 2: The New Batch" :silly:

I'm fine with the show being like FiM... I just wish that they had gone with a different design for the characters. We pretty much got by far the worst from the ones that were leaked. I just don't much care for it.

There were so many neat designs in the leak, but alas we get the one that I cringed at.

Yeah, I feel ya on the design.

Agreed, there were some really interesting takes in the leaked designs and then we got... this... :(
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 30, 2021, 01:55:39 PM
My first thought on the title was "Gremlins 2: The New Batch" :silly:

I'm fine with the show being like FiM... I just wish that they had gone with a different design for the characters. We pretty much got by far the worst from the ones that were leaked. I just don't much care for it.

There were so many neat designs in the leak, but alas we get the one that I cringed at.

Yeah, I feel ya on the design.

Agreed, there were some really interesting takes in the leaked designs and then we got... this... :(


 :lmao:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Sparkle Pony on June 10, 2021, 07:01:21 PM
I am very, very late to noticing this. :blush:

I think I might be past watching any MLP stuff unless it gets rave reviews from the community because the level of apathy this fills me with is just too powerful! I don’t even think it looks bad or anything, and hopefully kids will like it but I just cannot bring myself to care.

If the toys are nice I’d be happy to pick some up though!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 11, 2021, 06:43:13 AM
I wish we'd get a better look at the green guard. I'm trying to figure out what his hair color is, so I can do a custom.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/22, Movie Title!
Post by: dragglereeka on June 11, 2021, 03:19:16 PM
Cute new plushes with brushable hair: https://playbyplaytoys.es/en/collection/my-little-pony-en/

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Didn't realise this was the media thread and not the toy thread. :lol: Enjoy these ponies though!

Okay so the plushies are amazing! C'mon Hasbro, make the main toys look like this too! (with slightly longer noses!!)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: invaderhorizongreen on June 13, 2021, 01:05:27 PM
Lovely plush
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Mrs. Prospector on June 24, 2021, 09:28:51 PM
The 2022 MLP Annual book just released a TON of information about the movie and characters! (WARNING: Pic Heavy!)

Spoiler
Some highlights
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  • G4 was "ancient times" compared to G5
  • Image of new character, Sunny's father
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He appears to be the blue pony in the very back of the advent calendar packaging. Makes me wonder if any of the other ponies pictured here will be in the movie/show. Maybe the pink pony next to him is Sunny's mom?
  • Filly Sunny! She's adorable!
  • Izzy likes making crafts of recycled items
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Is Izzy's art taking a jab at Pony Life? It sure feels like it!
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  • Pegasi can't fly anymore since magic is gone, so they use wired instead
  • Pegasi live in Zephyr Heights. I believe another source said unicorns were from the Bridlewood Forest. So the locations in the movie we know so far are Maretime Bay for the earth ponies, Bridlewood Forest for the unicorns, and Zephyr Heights for the Pegasi. I quite like these names, and the glimpses of the backgrounds we've seen so far. Much better than "Manehattan" or "Las Pegasus"
  • The pony on the far left of the picture activity appears to be a new character, as she doesn't match any members of the current cast. Perhaps she's the white pegasus with the purple mane on the far left of the advent calendar? And maybe she's Zipp and Pipp's mother?

There's also a listing for a sticker book, which has bios of the main characters!
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This is making me quite excited for the new movie! I hope we get a trailer soon!

The listings for these books are here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0755501047#
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1405299932
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: ridi on June 25, 2021, 02:04:06 AM
tfw they still use "everypony"

Pipp still has her brown eyes on one of the book covers and I feel personally attacked.

Getting some serious "Mabel Pines" vibes from Izzy. Love the screencap of Hitch looking at her artwork  :silly:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on June 25, 2021, 04:34:08 AM
So both Zipp and Pipp are actually princesses. Yet up till now they were only using the Princess title for Pipp.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: LadyAmalthea on June 25, 2021, 05:52:21 AM
So they are officially still using the term 'cutie mark'. I guess if it's a continuation of the Equestria world, that makes sense, but I was really hoping that term would just go away.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 25, 2021, 06:23:30 AM
Its a cute activity book, little kids will enjoy it. They are pretty fun, I loved em when I was little. 

I wish they'd drop the forced horse puns, and every pony. So stupid. Zephyr Heights is a nice name. Cutie mark, as obnoxious as it is, is a G3 era thing.

Its flat out dumb that pegaus can't fly.  I don't recall the G1/G3 ponies having that issue.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on June 25, 2021, 06:53:07 AM
I am amused that ancient Equestria had a Manhattan clone.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: MJNSEIFER on June 25, 2021, 09:07:15 AM
I like the "everypony" thing - I just don't get how it's supposed to be a replacement rather than an alternative for things like "everybody".  I feel it works better an alternative to "-one" and "-body" as using them as suffixes doesn't scream out "human phrase!" like phrase is like "Lend me a hand" would - I know we don't say things like "everyhuman", but I think the "everypony" thing works, it sounds enough like "everybody" and the like to sound natural for me.

People likely know I love the term "cutie mark" by now.

I don't mind the horse puns if they're done right - G4 got away with it most of the time by not being too forced in my opinion.  When  they over did it, or did more things than once in the same name, it was much... I dunno, I just never had enough of a problem with it for to see much of a problem with it.

I respect your opinions though.

Zephyr Heights does sound like a good name - I agree on those who don't like and/or aren't sure about the pegasi being unable to fly because of "magic" though.  They did something like that on G4, didn't they?  It never sat right with me - pegasus magic should be... something, but it should be what makes them fly, in my opinion.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Luxrayx on June 25, 2021, 09:25:15 AM
Eh, I'm not really too concerned about pegasi not being able to fly. That sounds very much like a point of conflict that's going to be resolved in the movie.

That advent calendar is too precious!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: lalalei2001 on June 25, 2021, 11:00:19 AM
I like how on-the-nose the My Little Pony: A New Generation title is XD
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Carrehz on June 25, 2021, 12:59:29 PM
I just never understood why "everypony" was a thing in the first place. "Everyone", "everybody", HOW are those words human-specific?!? Ponies have bodies!! It just sounds so weird and forced to me, it's unnecessary. I'm annoyed to see it show up in this gen, too.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Mrs. Prospector on June 25, 2021, 02:14:04 PM
I just never understood why "everypony" was a thing in the first place. "Everyone", "everybody", HOW are those words human-specific?!? Ponies have bodies!! It just sounds so weird and forced to me, it's unnecessary. I'm annoyed to see it show up in this gen, too.

I honestly agree. It was cute at first, but then it quickly got into weird territory with the School of Friendship arc and how they kept using "everycreature" to refer to non-pony creatures. That honestly made me cringe a little. Just say everybody, dangit!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 25, 2021, 02:40:41 PM
I just never understood why "everypony" was a thing in the first place. "Everyone", "everybody", HOW are those words human-specific?!? Ponies have bodies!! It just sounds so weird and forced to me, it's unnecessary. I'm annoyed to see it show up in this gen, too.

I agree with all your points. And I don't understand why some people think it sounds human centric. It's a weak argument.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: MJNSEIFER on June 25, 2021, 06:25:38 PM
I just never understood why "everypony" was a thing in the first place. "Everyone", "everybody", HOW are those words human-specific?!? Ponies have bodies!! It just sounds so weird and forced to me, it's unnecessary. I'm annoyed to see it show up in this gen, too.
That was essentially my problem when people complained about when ponies didn't say it, despite liking the "everypony" thing myself - as I said, it should be an alternative rather than a replacement.

Like I say, I like it (and it never sounded forced to me personally, but I respect your opinion), but it made no sense to treat it as a replacement, because like you say everyone/everybody and the like was never human specific - I honestly thought it was supposed to be an alternative until I found out it wasn't.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 25, 2021, 07:12:44 PM
I just never understood why "everypony" was a thing in the first place. "Everyone", "everybody", HOW are those words human-specific?!? Ponies have bodies!! It just sounds so weird and forced to me, it's unnecessary. I'm annoyed to see it show up in this gen, too.

I honestly agree. It was cute at first, but then it quickly got into weird territory with the School of Friendship arc and how they kept using "everycreature" to refer to non-pony creatures. That honestly made me cringe a little. Just say everybody, dangit!

:iconclap:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: SunPony on June 25, 2021, 07:52:26 PM
Oooo thanks for sharing all those book images!  Baby Sunny is so cute!  Her dad is kind of giving me uncanny valley vibes, but Hitch kind of does as well.  I wonder why...I like their colors and such so I'm guessing its something about the head shape. 
Yeah, I bet the "non-flying pegasi" issue will be taken care of during the movie :)
I for one LOVE the horse puns.  Bring 'em on!  I don't care one way or another about "cutie mark" and "everypony"

This was posted in the book listings, gives a bit more info on the plot...not sure if anyone else posted it?  Here goes:
Spoiler
The pony world of Equestria has lost its magic. (GASP!) Friendship & Harmony have been replaced by paranoia & mistrust, and Ponies now live separated by species. Sunny – a feisty and idealistic young Earth Pony – is convinced there’s still hope for this divided world… however, when she befriends a lost Unicorn named Izzy, who wanders innocently into the Earth Pony town of Maretime Bay, the town has had enough.  Izzy and Sunny must embark on an epic adventure that will take them to faraway lands and force them to challenge the status quo by facing their fears and making new friends out of old enemies.  The world Sunny has dreamed of her entire life could finally become a reality as Sunny and her newfound friends fight to prove that even LITTLE ponies can make a BIG difference.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on June 25, 2021, 10:20:31 PM
This was posted in the book listings, gives a bit more info on the plot...not sure if anyone else posted it?  Here goes:
Spoiler
The pony world of Equestria has lost its magic. (GASP!) Friendship & Harmony have been replaced by paranoia & mistrust, and Ponies now live separated by species. Sunny – a feisty and idealistic young Earth Pony – is convinced there’s still hope for this divided world… however, when she befriends a lost Unicorn named Izzy, who wanders innocently into the Earth Pony town of Maretime Bay, the town has had enough.  Izzy and Sunny must embark on an epic adventure that will take them to faraway lands and force them to challenge the status quo by facing their fears and making new friends out of old enemies.  The world Sunny has dreamed of her entire life could finally become a reality as Sunny and her newfound friends fight to prove that even LITTLE ponies can make a BIG difference.

Man I can't tell if this is the same paragraph they used just about everywhere else or if it's just eerily similar to it. I definitely feel like I've read some of those sentences word for word multiple times already but not all of them...?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: SunPony on June 26, 2021, 05:59:07 AM
This was posted in the book listings, gives a bit more info on the plot...not sure if anyone else posted it?  Here goes:
Spoiler
The pony world of Equestria has lost its magic. (GASP!) Friendship & Harmony have been replaced by paranoia & mistrust, and Ponies now live separated by species. Sunny – a feisty and idealistic young Earth Pony – is convinced there’s still hope for this divided world… however, when she befriends a lost Unicorn named Izzy, who wanders innocently into the Earth Pony town of Maretime Bay, the town has had enough.  Izzy and Sunny must embark on an epic adventure that will take them to faraway lands and force them to challenge the status quo by facing their fears and making new friends out of old enemies.  The world Sunny has dreamed of her entire life could finally become a reality as Sunny and her newfound friends fight to prove that even LITTLE ponies can make a BIG difference.

Man I can't tell if this is the same paragraph they used just about everywhere else or if it's just eerily similar to it. I definitely feel like I've read some of those sentences word for word multiple times already but not all of them...?

That's kind of how I felt, only one of the sentences has a tidbit of info I don't think I knew before, the one about how Sunny and Izzy meet. But I may not be totally caught up on all the g5 news!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: TwilightStarshine on June 26, 2021, 09:26:30 AM
Spoiler
*sees picture of small Sunny looking at the mane six and listening to bedtime stories*

One of the cutest things I have ever seen. :biggrin: I can't wait to see more pictures of the movie. That annual featuring the mane six is a must-have. :good:

As far as the movie goes...

Spoiler
My Little Pony: A New Generation

Obvious title is obvious.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Sky_Rocket_Sammie on June 26, 2021, 10:59:22 AM
Those necks in some of the illustrations are throwing me off.  :blink: :blink:
Llamas? ponies :shocked: I do like where this is going so thumbs up to the newest generation.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 26, 2021, 12:00:13 PM
Those necks in some of the illustrations are throwing me off.  :blink: :blink:
Llamas? ponies :shocked: I do like where this is going so thumbs up to the newest generation.

Llamas...Ponies

So that's where My Little Lony comes from
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on June 27, 2021, 06:26:26 AM
The style in the 2D art is really a mix of G2 and G4 from what I can tell.

Not a fan of all the animals/pets having a horn though :x
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Bekuno on June 28, 2021, 11:05:46 AM
Alan Shumuckler and Michael Maher appear to be our newly listed composers for the new film. EQD discovered this after Alan's credit website was submitted, where he is cited as being behind the music and lyric production for "My Little Pony 2" (Netflix/Hasbro)

https://www.alanschmuckler.com/bio

So there's another awful movie name  :lol:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: bladed on June 28, 2021, 11:16:01 AM
Alan Shumuckler and Michael Maher appear to be our newly listed composers for the new film. EQD discovered this after Alan's credit website was submitted, where he is cited as being behind the music and lyric production for "My Little Pony 2" (Netflix/Hasbro)

https://www.alanschmuckler.com/bio

So there's another awful movie name  :lol:
Spoiler
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i hope we get something silly :P
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Bekuno on June 28, 2021, 01:16:23 PM
I think I spied another addition to the book lineup that I haven't seen yet. This one is called "Sunny's Day" and is part of the "I Can Read" series for young readers. Has a February 2022 release date. This refers to it as just My Little Pony: New Series

https://www.amazon.com/My-Little-Pony-Sunnys-Comics/dp/0063037483/
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on June 28, 2021, 01:44:23 PM

So there's another awful movie name  :lol:
The movie title isn't updated there yet, I've seen "A New Generation" used pretty much everywhere else now.

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Here's red eye Pipp.
On a sidenote, the duplicate wikis for G5 got redirected to my wiki since Fandom's policy is "no duplicates". It should be easier for people to find information and stay up to date now.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 28, 2021, 01:48:57 PM
Alan Shumuckler and Michael Maher appear to be our newly listed composers for the new film. EQD discovered this after Alan's credit website was submitted, where he is cited as being behind the music and lyric production for "My Little Pony 2" (Netflix/Hasbro)

https://www.alanschmuckler.com/bio

So there's another awful movie name  :lol:

Im sorry,  but Shmuckler makes me :snicker:  Still,that's quite a lot of well known material he's got under his belt.

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So there's another awful movie name  :lol:
The movie title isn't updated there yet, I've seen "A New Generation" used pretty much everywhere else now.

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Here's red eye Pipp.
On a sidenote, the duplicate wikis for G5 got redirected to my wiki since Fandom's policy is "no duplicates". It should be easier for people to find information and stay up to date now.

You know how in Animal Crossing, some villagers open their eyes wide and they're a completely different color, like white, red, or yellow? Maybe that's the deal with Pipp?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: sunshinedim on June 29, 2021, 12:23:36 PM
If the snouts were slightly longer the G5 designs would have been perfect in my opinion. But regardless me being picky.... I think the new ponies look hella cute!

After a decade of the ponies from G4 looking like chihuahuas.... I am ready for something new!

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They just posted on their instagram account that the main ponies will be voiced by Vanessa Hudgens, James Marsden and other celebrities....

I have a feeling that when they'll do a G5 tv show... they'll change the voice actors for the characters because they wouldn't be able to afford them for a lower budget tv show.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 30, 2021, 07:41:31 AM
Isn't James Marsden the dude who played Cyclops?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: sunshinedim on June 30, 2021, 07:47:06 AM
Isn't James Marsden the dude who played Cyclops?

Yup. he's sexy as flip... it'd feel so strange to have his attractive voice coming out of a horse  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Bekuno on June 30, 2021, 08:24:47 AM
Here is a full image of the voice cast revealed, including the names of some character's we've only slightly seen, and new characters entirely!

Spoiler
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I can say I definitely didn't expect most of these! I was a little apprehensive at some names but seeing the characters in the video with the voices isn't so bad. Really happy to have some new footage, a date, and the final title!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on June 30, 2021, 08:28:03 AM
Here is a full image of the voice cast revealed, including the names of some character's we've only slightly seen, and new characters entirely!

Spoiler
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I can say I definitely didn't expect most of these! I was a little apprehensive at some names but seeing the characters in the video with the voices isn't so bad. Really happy to have some new footage, a date, and the final title!

Hopefully all the other ponies here besides the "Mane 5" get some toys...

Also why aren't we seeing this logo used on the G5 toys and merchandise considering we now can see that they did in fact, create a new logo?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 5/29, Movie Title...again
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 30, 2021, 08:35:31 AM
Phyllis? Really? Ugh.

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Here is a full image of the voice cast revealed, including the names of some character's we've only slightly seen, and new characters entirely!

Spoiler
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I can say I definitely didn't expect most of these! I was a little apprehensive at some names but seeing the characters in the video with the voices isn't so bad. Really happy to have some new footage, a date, and the final title!

Hopefully all the other ponies here besides the "Mane 5" get some toys...

Also why aren't we seeing this logo used on the G5 toys and merchandise considering we now can see that they did in fact, create a new logo?

I like that logo. It reminds me of rainbow sherbert.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on June 30, 2021, 08:54:54 AM
I've updated the original post, the G5MLP wiki should be caught up now as well.
I like the name "Argyle" but not "Phyllis"
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 30, 2021, 08:58:22 AM
Am having trouble reconciling cute,  colorful Alphabittle with that boring, gray, gargoyle pony. No seriously,  he reminds me of Hudson.

#NotMyAlphabittle

He's probably a teacher or a chef or something.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: sunshinedim on June 30, 2021, 09:11:19 AM
I just noticed Alphabittle's beard. I hate it LOL.... horses shouldn't have facial hair imo. It looks odd.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 30, 2021, 09:16:50 AM
I just noticed Alphabittle's beard. I hate it LOL.... horses shouldn't have facial hair imo. It looks odd.

I agree
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Carrehz on June 30, 2021, 09:22:54 AM
"Phyllis"???

Nice to see more boy ponies, though oh man Alphabittle doesn't suit him!! I don't mind his design but ugh why reuse an old name for such an entirely different design...

#NotMyAlphabittle
:biggrin:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: MJNSEIFER on June 30, 2021, 09:45:36 AM
I was surprised to see Liza as part of the voice cast.

Incidentally, I'm mixed on the names in general - Izzy Moonbow and Hitch Trailblazer sound more "MLP" if you only use their surnames in my opinion, but I guess Sunny Starscout works.  Zip Storm feels like a My Little Pony name, and Pip Petals... kind of does, but I'm not sure if the two words fit together or not (but thinking of it, they can both be floral, so... I guess.)  I get that Zip and Pip are supposed to fit together.

The names of the other characters I'm not sure of either.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: InkyMilk on June 30, 2021, 09:49:18 AM
Omg, all the new ponies are SO stinkin' cute! I'm crossing my fingers so hard that they all get brushable toys, especially Sprout and Phyllis! I love that there are already some variation in their body designs and it doesn't seem like they're all 1 of 4 basic designs.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 30, 2021, 09:50:28 AM
Ooh those faces.   >_< Sprout looks like he's balding. Argyle looks awful with that lantern jaw, and Phyllis is just a straight up G4, which is Yuck. Please stop with the bloated chihuahua head ponies. 1 step forward,  1 step back.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Taffeta on June 30, 2021, 10:39:56 AM
Phyllis reminds me of Jem...just does...(the name).

And I said in shoutbox I didn't know who any of them were, but I lied. I do know Ken Jeong, but only because of his hamming up some episodes of the masked singer over here.

Not that it matters if they do a good job. I just am not sure about any of this yet.

Alphabittle is indeed a bit of a shock, given G3. Also that name has always bothered me. NEVER would have picked they'd reuse it.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Carrehz on June 30, 2021, 11:24:42 AM
It's just a really weird name for them to reuse? Most of the recycled names in G4 were either blind bags (I imagine whoever was in charge of naming those probably had a list of old names that were "okay" to reuse, or somesuch) or they were fairly generic names anyway (Cupcake, I think there was a Lickety-Split in FiM?)... but reusing THAT name for THIS char just... weird o_O It doesn't suit him at all... It's not even so much the recycled name that bugs me, more that it literally feels like they just tossed a bunch of G3 names into a hat and pulled one out at random...

I'm familiar with... about half of those VAs, which is better than the FiM movie where I'd heard of maybe one of the guest stars beforehand :'D

I just realized who Phyllis reminds me of, she's a dead ringer for the "Marian the Librarian" pony from that one FiM comic. (Not sure which, I'm not very familiar with the comics)

(edit: Found a pic of Marian - the pink one next to Minty:
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looking at them side by side they're not AS similar as I thought, but still pretty close...)

I do like Sprout's design. Nice colours.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Bekuno on June 30, 2021, 11:46:55 AM
We got a bigger image of Sprout in a different pose now

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Also the credits:
"The film is directed by Robert Cullen and José L. Ucha, and co-directed by Mark Fattibene. The story was created by Cullen, Ucha and Tim Sullivan. The screenplay was written by Sullivan and Gillian Berrow, while Cecil Kramer and Peter Lewis are producing."

Gillian Berrow wrote for FIM and Robert Cullen was the creative supervisor for the Rainbow Roadtrip special and a few Pony Life Episodes
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on June 30, 2021, 12:16:27 PM
Sprout makes me think of Big Mac.  I hope he says more than "Yup" and "Nope" in this series...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Minty_Magic on June 30, 2021, 02:23:40 PM
Aww man after the little VA reveal video today I’m so ready to see a full trailer! The ponies look good in action, but we haven’t gotten more than a few seconds of movement from any of them!

I don’t know who half of the VAs are if I’m being honest, but the fact that I recognize any at all tells me they got a pretty impressive line up. I’m surprised this is only getting a Netflix release, it seems like a lot of money has gone into this movie! I wonder if the big names will really stick around for the series though….
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: BubbleTea on June 30, 2021, 03:24:48 PM
Spoiler
We got a bigger image of Sprout in a different pose now

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Also the credits:
"The film is directed by Robert Cullen and José L. Ucha, and co-directed by Mark Fattibene. The story was created by Cullen, Ucha and Tim Sullivan. The screenplay was written by Sullivan and Gillian Berrow, while Cecil Kramer and Peter Lewis are producing."

Gillian Berrow wrote for FIM and Robert Cullen was the creative supervisor for the Rainbow Roadtrip special and a few Pony Life Episodes

forehead pony
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Taffeta on June 30, 2021, 03:27:34 PM
If it was written by people involved in G4, I think there's a good chance of the direction G5 is going to be going in. I guess we'll see though...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Luxrayx on June 30, 2021, 03:44:12 PM
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We got a bigger image of Sprout in a different pose now

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Also the credits:
"The film is directed by Robert Cullen and José L. Ucha, and co-directed by Mark Fattibene. The story was created by Cullen, Ucha and Tim Sullivan. The screenplay was written by Sullivan and Gillian Berrow, while Cecil Kramer and Peter Lewis are producing."

Gillian Berrow wrote for FIM and Robert Cullen was the creative supervisor for the Rainbow Roadtrip special and a few Pony Life Episodes

forehead pony
Ewwwww why did you have to point that out? :lol: Looks like they took some inspiration from that one slightly terrifying Shining Armor figure with the eyebrows as well-

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Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Bekuno on June 30, 2021, 06:12:44 PM
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We got a bigger image of Sprout in a different pose now

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Also the credits:
"The film is directed by Robert Cullen and José L. Ucha, and co-directed by Mark Fattibene. The story was created by Cullen, Ucha and Tim Sullivan. The screenplay was written by Sullivan and Gillian Berrow, while Cecil Kramer and Peter Lewis are producing."

Gillian Berrow wrote for FIM and Robert Cullen was the creative supervisor for the Rainbow Roadtrip special and a few Pony Life Episodes

forehead pony
Ewwwww why did you have to point that out? :lol: Looks like they took some inspiration from that one slightly terrifying Shining Armor figure with the eyebrows as well-

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Apparently Imalou, who also designed Sunny and Izzy, did Sprout's design. They said on twitter the eyebrows were done like Hitch's on purpose  :lookround:

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We got full close ups for all the cast announcements. I'm going to leave out the mane 5 as they're the same stock images.

Alphabittle
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Phyllis
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Queen Haven
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Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 30, 2021, 10:13:20 PM
I can't tell what Hudson pony's symbol is? Phyllis has a business chart type of symbol,   so she must work in finances or something? Maybe a bank? Sprout is a radish pony. That's unique anyway.  Wish they'd have gone with green proper hair, instead of the G4 receding hairline.  That's ok, I don't like him anyway. Argyle almost looks like he has white and pink in his mane and tail.

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If it was written by people involved in G4, I think there's a good chance of the direction G5 is going to be going in. I guess we'll see though...

How unfortunate.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on July 01, 2021, 10:09:32 AM
I'm guessing Sprout will be a bully/jerk based on his look.

Most of these feel so mundane to me. I want more rainbows. More color. Less "Phyllis". Poor Alphabittle. What happened...

Really, really hate the tiny cutie marks too. Its like they're ashamed that these designs have anything to do with MLP.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on July 01, 2021, 10:57:07 AM
Apparently Imalou, who also designed Sunny and Izzy, did Sprout's design. They said on twitter the eyebrows were done like Hitch's on purpose  :lookround:


Maybe he's related to Hitch.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Flitter on July 01, 2021, 11:05:52 AM
Uuuuhgh, they are continuing with the facial hair  :throw:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: BlackCurtains on July 01, 2021, 11:11:42 AM
I know Phil LaMarr from Futurama. He has quite a range of voices. I like the way Argyle looks. Don't know if it's his head shape or that his mouth is closed but he looks the most horse-y.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: red_velvet_rose on July 01, 2021, 11:12:42 AM
Argyle's medallion there looks like Twilight's cutie mark.  Also, why does he not seem to have a cutie mark of his own?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on July 01, 2021, 11:17:27 AM
Alphabittle's design makes me got "Errr...."
His symbol seems to be a seashell? He's a Unicorn, but it seems Unicorn horns are now more or less between the ears like party hats

Argyle's medallion there looks like Twilight's cutie mark.  Also, why does he not seem to have a cutie mark of his own?
His mark may be on the unseen side... from what I have noticed is that sometimes the marks seem to switch sides in the promotional stuff
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on July 01, 2021, 11:24:01 AM
Argyle's medallion there looks like Twilight's cutie mark.  Also, why does he not seem to have a cutie mark of his own?
He does, it's shown on his toy. I think it's a plot point.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Carrehz on July 01, 2021, 11:56:18 AM
Argyle's medallion there looks like Twilight's cutie mark.  Also, why does he not seem to have a cutie mark of his own?
He does, it's shown on his toy. I think it's a plot point.

Oohh I missed that - maybe that's why his full name is "Argyle Starshine"? Like how we had Twilight Sparkle, Sunset Shimmer, etc? Argyle Starshine doesn't exactly fit the pattern, but it's somewhat reminiscent of those names, I suppose.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 01, 2021, 12:16:44 PM
Argyle's medallion there looks like Twilight's cutie mark.  Also, why does he not seem to have a cutie mark of his own?
He does, it's shown on his toy. I think it's a plot point.

Oohh I missed that - maybe that's why his full name is "Argyle Starshine"? Like how we had Twilight Sparkle, Sunset Shimmer, etc? Argyle Starshine doesn't exactly fit the pattern, but it's somewhat reminiscent of those names, I suppose.

Wouldn't it be Starscout then?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Bekuno on July 01, 2021, 12:19:10 PM
Argyle's medallion there looks like Twilight's cutie mark.  Also, why does he not seem to have a cutie mark of his own?
He does, it's shown on his toy. I think it's a plot point.

Oohh I missed that - maybe that's why his full name is "Argyle Starshine"? Like how we had Twilight Sparkle, Sunset Shimmer, etc? Argyle Starshine doesn't exactly fit the pattern, but it's somewhat reminiscent of those names, I suppose.

Wouldn't it be Starscout then?

According to a new set of blindbags I posted in the toy thread, his name is actually Argyle Starshine, which is really weird! Maybe Sunny's last name is a mix of both parents, though Argyle appears to be a single father
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on July 01, 2021, 01:50:29 PM
Argyle's medallion there looks like Twilight's cutie mark.  Also, why does he not seem to have a cutie mark of his own?
He does, it's shown on his toy. I think it's a plot point.

Oohh I missed that - maybe that's why his full name is "Argyle Starshine"? Like how we had Twilight Sparkle, Sunset Shimmer, etc? Argyle Starshine doesn't exactly fit the pattern, but it's somewhat reminiscent of those names, I suppose.

Wouldn't it be Starscout then?

According to a new set of blindbags I posted in the toy thread, his name is actually Argyle Starshine, which is really weird! Maybe Sunny's last name is a mix of both parents, though Argyle appears to be a single father
Naming schemes in FiM between the parents and kids didn't always match... Remember Twilight's brother is Shining Armor but she is called Twilight Sparkle... neither of the parents have those last names (Twilight Velvet, who I believe had a blind bag version of herself, and Night Light, who I believe was given that name by the fandom due to looking similar to Nachtlicht from the G1 toys)

The apples didn't have the same last names either. The Cakes were the only ones I recall who actually had the same 2nd word name.
There is a lot of oddball naming in the FiM series due to some ponies not having duo names either.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: ridi on July 01, 2021, 02:46:13 PM
Wow, they're really just naming the characters whatever they want this gen, huh?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 01, 2021, 06:12:11 PM
The apples didn't have the same last names either. The Cakes were the only ones I recall who actually had the same 2nd word name.
There is a lot of oddball naming in the FiM series due to some ponies not having duo names either.

Pinkie and her family have consistent second words for their names too!

But yeah most of the time they do not.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on July 01, 2021, 06:45:47 PM
The apples didn't have the same last names either. The Cakes were the only ones I recall who actually had the same 2nd word name.
There is a lot of oddball naming in the FiM series due to some ponies not having duo names either.

Pinkie and her family have consistent second words for their names too!

But yeah most of the time they do not.
Ah I forgot about Pinkie's family, mostly due to not watching all the seasons of FiM... I got kind of sick of it
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: hilamb on July 01, 2021, 10:57:35 PM
Here is a full image of the voice cast revealed, including the names of some character's we've only slightly seen, and new characters entirely!

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I can say I definitely didn't expect most of these! I was a little apprehensive at some names but seeing the characters in the video with the voices isn't so bad. Really happy to have some new footage, a date, and the final title!

I like these. Maby not the biggest fan of the beards, but Ill take'em.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Ponyfan on July 02, 2021, 06:13:51 AM
I recognize about 3 of the vas listed. 

I'm not impressed with any of the designs so far.  Everything about Alpahbittle seems wrong to me.  The name, the design , the fact that he has facial hair...


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Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 02, 2021, 06:40:32 AM
The new designs all bother me.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: sunshinedim on July 02, 2021, 07:07:03 AM
I recognize about 3 of the vas listed. 

I'm not impressed with any of the designs so far.  Everything about Alpahbittle seems wrong to me.  The name, the design , the fact that he has facial hair...


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I think the only way I would tolerate facial hair on a pony is if it looked like a goat beard.... traditional depictions of unicorns had beards anyway... but everyone seems to forget about that haha.

The way they made his facial hair look... it looks too human-like.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Luxrayx on July 02, 2021, 08:16:55 AM
I guess I'm in the minority here, because I really like the dads' designs XD I think it's because of certain fan artists like Lopoddity and Earthsong9405 on DA, who use that exact type of sideburns as shorthand for "dad pony". Alphabittle in particular looks like he walked straight off of Lopoddity's page (well ok, except for the stubby nose :rolleyes:)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: OleGrayMane on July 02, 2021, 08:33:44 AM
I recognized everybody in the last row, which is about right for my age  :P
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: bladed on July 02, 2021, 09:36:05 AM
i quite like a few of the designs, especially ol queenie there :P but the names are REALLY whack in this generation
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Bekuno on July 02, 2021, 09:57:55 AM
I guess I'm in the minority here, because I really like the dads' designs XD I think it's because of certain fan artists like Lopoddity and Earthsong9405 on DA, who use that exact type of sideburns as shorthand for "dad pony". Alphabittle in particular looks like he walked straight off of Lopoddity's page (well ok, except for the stubby nose :rolleyes:)

I really like him too, and I blame the same artists for it  :lol:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: LadyAmalthea on July 02, 2021, 10:58:16 AM
I guess I'm in the minority here, because I really like the dads' designs XD I think it's because of certain fan artists like Lopoddity and Earthsong9405 on DA, who use that exact type of sideburns as shorthand for "dad pony". Alphabittle in particular looks like he walked straight off of Lopoddity's page (well ok, except for the stubby nose :rolleyes:)

I actually like the dad the best out of all of them. The name Argyle doesn't bother me, but combined with Starshine? Not only does it not 'go' together, it's not even sounding like it's going to be the family surname, since it's different than his daughter's. Perhaps the movie might tell us if there is an explanation for that; I suppose there are many reasons a daughter might have a different last name than her parents. The inconsistency in surnames is one thing that always bugged me in FiM...but then I'm one of those OCD types that likes everything to fit into nice, neat packages.

And then...Alphbittle. I don't even know what to think about him. He's a surprise, that's for sure! I like seeing a different body type on a pony, anyway. Not sure why he's so drab compared to the g3 pony by the same name though. Guess we'll find out!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Sapphire-Light on July 02, 2021, 02:09:52 PM
I don't like the designs  >_<, the round head, flat muzzles and big eyebrows, for me makes them look more like Paw Patrol puppies and not ponies
Also  the names doesn't sound pony at all
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Star Catcher on July 04, 2021, 05:18:50 AM
I generally like the designs of these characters.

Alphabittle looks like he belongs in the Spyro universe (to me at least) and i do not mind that. I like his design a lot more than that of most FiM ponies that had facial hair slapped on them. I look forward to seeing him animated.

Argyle is weird to me cause his face reminds me too much of a local, loud comedian. It is a bit jarring. X)

The only one i really do not like is Sprout. I find his colors unpleasant and that slick hairstyle that makes him look balding is not helping either. I have not been a massive fan of the male pony designs so far but Sprout is for sure the worst one to me.

Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 04, 2021, 07:51:48 AM
Alphabittle and Haven do, only because there are ponies named Alphabittle and Haven Bay. Argyle and Sprout are blah blah boring. Phyllis isnt a good pony name, but neither is Logan Berrytown,  Soarin and Junior.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: TJgamer on July 05, 2021, 09:44:15 AM
I'm really looking forward to hearing more of Izzy's voice.   ^.^

Boy, I can smell the full-length trailer from here.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: SpacePinto on July 05, 2021, 02:48:09 PM
Logan Berrytown.

*Logan Barrington.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Bekuno on July 09, 2021, 01:14:37 PM
Just sharing confirmation on some new things! The movie will be a standard 90 minutes in length and will be rated PG!

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Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on July 14, 2021, 02:14:04 PM
Here's hoping they will give us a little nod to G1 as well. Maybe the remnants of dream castle or paradise estate somewhere in the distance, or the skeleton of a Grundle  :haha:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: SpacePinto on July 14, 2021, 03:08:01 PM
Here's hoping they will give us a little nod to G1 as well. Maybe the remnants of dream castle or paradise estate somewhere in the distance, or the skeleton of a Grundle  :haha:

I hope not.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Carrehz on July 15, 2021, 05:58:03 AM
or the skeleton of a Grundle  :haha:

:silly:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: AvianWing on August 03, 2021, 05:18:23 AM
Small new peak at the animation, apparently from a toy ad

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Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 03, 2021, 10:59:16 AM
I see where Pipp and Zipp get it from. Mummy Dearest looks like a diva.
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Post by: hilamb on August 05, 2021, 11:31:26 PM
Small new peak at the animation, apparently from a toy ad

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This looks good. Lol, the divaness is in the family I see
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Taffeta on August 06, 2021, 12:55:08 AM
Logan Berrytown.

*Logan Barrington.

In fairness this name doesn't count because Logan doesn't exist as a toy, just as an animation character.

Whereas the G5 names are the names of the actual main cast. Which is a bit awkward.

I think the one that particularly bothers me is Sprout but I can't explain why.

I hope there are no nods to G1. I'd rather G4 hadn't mined G1 so much for material either, tbh. As nice as it is to have acknowledgement, the way they do it is generally bothersome...

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Post by: InkyMilk on August 06, 2021, 09:33:30 AM
Small new peak at the animation, apparently from a toy ad

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Omg, I can't get over how cute the animation is!!! Every time I start getting irritated with the ugly toys, all I have to do is watch these little snippets and I fall in love with G5 all over again. They are sooooo adorable!
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 06, 2021, 12:49:26 PM
Logan Berrytown.

*Logan Barrington.

In fairness this name doesn't count because Logan doesn't exist as a toy, just as an animation character.

Whereas the G5 names are the names of the actual main cast. Which is a bit awkward.

I think the one that particularly bothers me is Sprout but I can't explain why.

I hope there are no nods to G1. I'd rather G4 hadn't mined G1 so much for material either, tbh. As nice as it is to have acknowledgement, the way they do it is generally bothersome...

I'm okay with name Sprout,  although it is boring. Though I'd rather they go the whole enchilada,  and call him Radish Sprout.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: SunPony on August 06, 2021, 01:49:20 PM
Logan Berrytown.

*Logan Barrington.

In fairness this name doesn't count because Logan doesn't exist as a toy, just as an animation character.

Whereas the G5 names are the names of the actual main cast. Which is a bit awkward.

I think the one that particularly bothers me is Sprout but I can't explain why.

I hope there are no nods to G1. I'd rather G4 hadn't mined G1 so much for material either, tbh. As nice as it is to have acknowledgement, the way they do it is generally bothersome...

I'm okay with name Sprout,  though I'd rather they go the whole enchilada,  and call him Radish Sprout.

A radish?  I thought it was a beet this whole time.
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 07, 2021, 09:42:39 AM
Could be Sun Pony? :shrug:
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Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on August 08, 2021, 04:21:51 AM
Sprout is definitely missing the rest of his name.
Either Sprout is his first name or last name (hard to tell), I only know that he is a deputy and his name does in fact have some relation to his symbol (since it's a Vegetable sprout)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Bekuno on August 08, 2021, 10:02:17 AM
Some images have been leaked from an upcoming "I Can Read" picture book coming out at the end of the month. Nothing really spoiler-y, but new screenshots from the movie are included. Some cute stuff too!


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Post by: Ragamuffin on August 08, 2021, 10:46:45 AM
The more I see Maretime Bay the more I love it!! I'm so glad to have colourful towns back in MLP.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: SunPony on August 08, 2021, 06:22:10 PM
Those new pictures are so cute! ^.^ Sunny is adooorable. And I like her dad's ponytail. And Hitch's little animal friends!

Is that movie poster in the background "HORNS" depicting an evil aquatic unicorn attacking from the deep???  Or maybe not... It's not in focus and I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what it is.
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Post by: PinkieLopBun on August 08, 2021, 07:02:48 PM
Those new pictures are so cute! ^.^ Sunny is adooorable. And I like her dad's ponytail. And Hitch's little animal friends!

Is that movie poster in the background "HORNS" depicting an evil aquatic unicorn attacking from the deep???  Or maybe not... It's not in focus and I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what it is.
I think it’s supposed to be referencing Jaws if that helps.
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Post by: Mrs. Prospector on August 08, 2021, 07:38:19 PM
I just love that little crab and seagulls!

What really intriques me this time around are the signs advertising the "Canter Logic". There's the digital-looking font and the outline of Phyllis's (still worst pony name) mane and glasses. Given her stock cutie mark, maybe she's the owner of a big tech company? And possibly a "evil big businesswoman" type antagonist given the way her signage is all over the town? Just a thought.

Also the "Horns" movie poster. I think this might suggest that earth ponies and pegasi think unicorns are dangerous because of their pointy horns. That image of Izzy with the tennis ball on her horn, as well as the lyric "warhead on your forehead" from the song leaked in the Izzy  plushie seem to support this idea.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on August 09, 2021, 01:32:02 AM
Those new pictures are so cute! ^.^ Sunny is adooorable. And I like her dad's ponytail. And Hitch's little animal friends!

Is that movie poster in the background "HORNS" depicting an evil aquatic unicorn attacking from the deep???  Or maybe not... It's not in focus and I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what it is.
I think it’s supposed to be referencing Jaws if that helps.

Yes, definitely Jaws. It's basically the movie poster with a unicorn rising from the deep instead of a shark.

Any thoughts on Canterlogic Show? I'm guessing it's a talk show/ radio show, with Phyllis being the host, where they discuss daily life of Maretime Bay. And that's how we will learn about Sunny being seen as a bit of the odd one out. I think Phyllis' cutie mark is symbolic for pure logic, with no room for imagination or visionary ideals. Maybe "Phyllis" is a play on "Dr Phil"? Total speculation though.
I really love Sunny's home being a lighthouse. A beacon of light for others, just like the character.
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Post by: ridi on August 09, 2021, 03:16:08 AM
The Jaws parody is... odd... What's a unicorn doing underwater?!

The setting does overall look very nice, warm and whimsical. I'm not big on 3D CG type animation, but I vastly prefer this over the flat world G4 presented.
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on August 09, 2021, 03:31:29 AM
The Jaws parody is... odd... What's a unicorn doing underwater?!

Lol, yes, not to mention that bloody horror is now canon in MLP :D
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Post by: SunPony on August 09, 2021, 04:48:57 AM
I figured it was a JAWS reference but a unicorn underwater... Well I wasn't sure that's what it really was. If so, that and what is being guessed about Canter Logic (some kind of extreme political radio/tv show?) paints a grim picture of the society's ability to tolerate nonconformity.  Maybe it's meant to be more light hearted and just played for laughs but wow it seems dark.  I wonder if this generation IS meant for a slightly older audience... It is rated PG... What was G4s show/movies rated?

At first I was really just interested in the new toys but now I'm very curious to see the movie.
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Post by: OleGrayMane on August 09, 2021, 06:29:38 AM
The Jaws parody is... odd... What's a unicorn doing underwater?!

As Harrison Ford supposedly said to Mark Hamill, "it ain't that kind of movie" ('Horns' that is)  ;)
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Post by: Bekuno on August 09, 2021, 08:32:13 AM
I figured it was a JAWS reference but a unicorn underwater... Well I wasn't sure that's what it really was. If so, that and what is being guessed about Canter Logic (some kind of extreme political radio/tv show?) paints a grim picture of the society's ability to tolerate nonconformity.  Maybe it's meant to be more light hearted and just played for laughs but wow it seems dark.  I wonder if this generation IS meant for a slightly older audience... It is rated PG... What was G4s show/movies rated?

At first I was really just interested in the new toys but now I'm very curious to see the movie.

People have been wondering if CanterLogic could be a media brand, since the ponies seem to have access to smart phones and modern technology now.

In regards tot he Jaws poster, I feel it's racial related propaganda due to the split society  :( It looks like all the other ponies on those posters are Earth Ponies
Imalou, who designed Izzy and Sunny, also did the art for those posters and said they'd be willing to share them in full with permission later, but it kind of depends on if Hasbro will let them.
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Post by: RoseNoire on August 09, 2021, 09:10:13 AM
Apparently, we'll be getting a trailer in three days.

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Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 09, 2021, 10:05:55 AM
you'd think it'd be a sea pony or merpony,instead of a unicorn.  Weak forced joke, is lame.
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Post by: InkyMilk on August 09, 2021, 11:16:24 AM
Guess I'm the odd one out, but I think the HORNS movie poster is hilarious  :lol: Also loving the Harry Potter (I can't see what they're calling it) parody next to it as well!
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Post by: red_velvet_rose on August 09, 2021, 11:29:38 AM
Guess I'm the odd one out, but I think the HORNS movie poster is hilarious  :lol: Also loving the Harry Potter (I can't see what they're calling it) parody next to it as well!

I think it's Harry Trotter. :)

But if they're Earth ponies... how are they witches and wizards? Earth ponies don't have magic... that's kind of the point?
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Post by: Luxrayx on August 09, 2021, 11:52:37 AM
Guess I'm the odd one out, but I think the HORNS movie poster is hilarious  :lol: Also loving the Harry Potter (I can't see what they're calling it) parody next to it as well!

I think it's Harry Trotter. :)

But if they're Earth ponies... how are they witches and wizards? Earth ponies don't have magic... that's kind of the point?
Humans don't have magic either, to be fair ;)

Though the idea of a pony Harry Potter is pretty humorous... Imagine earth pony wizards having to hide from the muggle world, a world in which magic is already well known and, y'know, kind of fundamental to how everything works. :lol:
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on August 09, 2021, 12:08:42 PM
Guess I'm the odd one out, but I think the HORNS movie poster is hilarious  :lol: Also loving the Harry Potter (I can't see what they're calling it) parody next to it as well!

You're not alone ;)
It's harmless fun, that's all.

They could have gone for a Dr Whooves poster as well. How they managed to overlook that obvious pun is beyond me, hehe. The brony fandom would have exploded.
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Post by: Wardah on August 09, 2021, 01:01:56 PM
you'd think it'd be a sea pony or merpony,instead of a unicorn.  Weak forced joke, is lame.

If it was a sea pony or merpony it wouldn't drive home the message of unicorns being dangerous. Though I do wonder why they picked an aquatic themed movie for it. Like there aren't plenty of terrestrial monster movies to riff on?
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Post by: serena-hime on August 09, 2021, 01:30:44 PM
Guess I'm the odd one out, but I think the HORNS movie poster is hilarious  :lol: Also loving the Harry Potter (I can't see what they're calling it) parody next to it as well!

I think it's Harry Trotter. :)

But if they're Earth ponies... how are they witches and wizards? Earth ponies don't have magic... that's kind of the point?

Well Harry Trotter is presumably a fictional movie here lol, I'm assuming even earth ponies would have fictional stories about magic (just like humans do), especially since none of the pony species in this universe have magic at the moment so it's just as mythical to them as it is to us.
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Post by: AvianWing on August 11, 2021, 09:38:27 AM
Some images have been leaked from an upcoming "I Can Read" picture book coming out at the end of the month. Nothing really spoiler-y, but new screenshots from the movie are included. Some cute stuff too!

These look really nice! The colorful towns, the little background details like the HORNS poster... Makes it look/feel more lively, and like the whole thing has some soul and care put into it

I'm actually getting legitimately excited for G5, I didn't think I would be.

Anxiously awaiting tomorrow's trailer...

They could have gone for a Dr Whooves poster as well. How they managed to overlook that obvious pun is beyond me, hehe. The brony fandom would have exploded.

It could have been a neat subtle nod to the brony fandom and/or FiM... but that also could be why they chose not to.
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Post by: Bekuno on August 11, 2021, 10:03:16 AM
Since the trailer will be out tomorrow I wanted to lay out my plot predictions for the movie based on toys, toy description, the synopsis, and any screenshots we get. I just want to see how accurate I am!

Sticking under a spoiler for length

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Movie will open with a narrative about Equestria, and maybe explain what has happened to separate the societies over the years since the time of Princess Twilight Sparkle. We'll be introduced to filly Sunny and her father Argyle as they talk about the Mane 6 / Guardians of Harmony and sing a musical number (the leaked animatic). We transition into modern day where something is going on in Maretime Bay (Canterlogic?) and Sunny is out on her smoothie delivery when she finds Izzy. Sunny is super excited to see a Unicorn for the first time, but the other residents of Maretime Bay are not happy. I feel Deputy Sprout may play a bad guy role here especially, and the residents will quickly try to chase her away. Sunny wants to help her new friend and leaves town, but Hitch will try and stop her, and when he fails he will secretly follow behind the two on their Journey.

Izzy is trying to find a Gem because something is going wrong in her home of Bindlewood Forest, and she believes bringing this gem will solve it. She just accidentally found her way into Maretime Bay trying to find it. Somehow they realize the gem is actually a part of the crown owned by the pegasus queen and head to the pegasus city to steal it. They ultimately reach the sky high city of Zephyr Heights and have to traverse a mountain to sneak into the kingdom. Princess Pipp is putting on a concert, which Izzy and Sunny crash in the process of trying to steal the crown, and are captured by the guards. I feel as though Zipp will be the most helpful one, and help them escape and drag Pipp along in the process.

At some point Hitch as caught following them and now all five are together. The group then heads to Brindlewood Forest to deliver the crown/gem to the unicorn leader Alphabittle. The other ponies may have to disguise themselves as unciorns to get into the forest. The reunion of all the species along with the gem unleash magic back into the world of Equestria, and Sunny briefly gains Alicorn powers in the process.

Now that Magic has been restored, the new group of friends will have to work together to bring hope and harmony back among the ponies of all kinds, cue series.

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Post by: AvianWing on August 12, 2021, 06:22:23 AM
It’s here

https://youtu.be/J2I5HtYlwrQ
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on August 12, 2021, 07:04:38 AM
Well it certainly looks fantastic. I was hoping for a bit more plot details. I can see this being a hit.
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Post by: StarSwirl05 on August 12, 2021, 07:19:49 AM
It’s here

https://youtu.be/J2I5HtYlwrQ
Basically G3 but "What if everyone jumps to conclusions?"
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Post by: Taffeta on August 12, 2021, 07:26:42 AM
I dunno, I felt the G4 vibe from this. I feel like there's a story in there somewhere, though.

What bothered me mostly was the ghost of the mane 6. Because of course we have to have one who's all about fashion and one making silly Pinkie-esque exclamations. And so on.

It's hard to judge the whole thing on a trailer but yeah. :/ Maybe it's just that they've used the same basic character tropes and so it's accidental, but it feels like "what happened if we reincarnated the M6 into CGI"...

The one positive is that there is no active appearance of the M6 or anything from G4 in the trailer. It just feels like they didn't move away from those tropes and create new characters but are trying to continue with the same kind of personalities in the new work?

The humour in it doesn't work for me either, but not being a kid, I guess I can't really judge that...
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on August 12, 2021, 07:42:39 AM
Agreed on the re-use of the same character tropes, but that is hardly a surprise.

I loved to tiny nod to G1 in the opening scene. One of lil Sunny's drawings on the wall seems to be the G1 logo rainbow..?

The massive lack of symbols on the ponies was striking though, and the ones we did see were just so tiny. Doesn't seem to be of much importance anymore.
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Post by: OleGrayMane on August 12, 2021, 07:50:38 AM
Couple of cute lines, but that's what teasers are for, right?
Nothing shocking, and I'm not sold on the voices, especially Izzy's. Can't pin it down.
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Post by: Taffeta on August 12, 2021, 08:15:37 AM
Agreed on the re-use of the same character tropes, but that is hardly a surprise.

It's not a surprise, but it does underscore the drop in creativity around the brand. I am imagining a bunch of brainstorms discussing what worked in G4 and what they can keep in G5, rather than them sitting down with a blank sheet of paper thinking 'who are our main cast'. It's not necessarily wrong, and absolutely not unique to MLP, but a bit disappointing.

I suppose the other concern I have on a broader scale with kids' shows is that there have been all the important discussions about representing racial and gender diversity and progress is being made there, but there's not been the same discussions on diversity of character and personality. For some kids it won't matter, but there will be the kids who are looking to media to find someone they can identify with, to validate who they are as people and the challenges they face. While having the bigger discussions on representation it does seem like this one has slipped by. This is especially true for kids with life experiences that don't fit into those narrow tropes of 'normal'.

I've always felt that the best way to present diversity of invisible life challenges in books and TV shows is through diversity of character, rather than explicit labelling. So I guess I just find it a shame that they've aped the G4 character tropes instead of using these barriers between the different pony races to flesh out a whole new range of personalities from those used in the M6.

But yeah, this is a wider problem with kids' shows in general right now.
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Post by: serena-hime on August 12, 2021, 08:55:25 AM
That was so cute!! I'm hyped lol, still not sold on the presence of eyebrows which I think are the biggest contributor to the 'human head on horse body' feeling imo, especially since they're a lot more horsey than G4 was, but I love the rest so far.

Zipp is gorgeous!
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Post by: Wardah on August 12, 2021, 09:24:29 AM
I dunno why but it kinda reminds me of DreamWorks Trolls in a way. I enjoyed Trolls so I'll probably enjoy this.
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Post by: SunPony on August 12, 2021, 09:27:53 AM
Looks like a fun adventure movie for kids.  As a DDR fan I loved the pony dance/prance game!  The unicorns sitting around dejected in the forest was interesting and reminded me of a scene in Chicken Run.  In fact the feeling I got from the trailer overall reminds me of something that I can't quite put my finger on... I'm excited to watch it.  Also, wow, I like the visuals so much more than G4.  This CGI is definitely working for it.

Addendum: I'm really interested to see more of Zipp's character.  It seems like she could be the strong silent type.
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Post by: ridi on August 12, 2021, 09:48:45 AM
The trailer left me really... non-opinionated? :\a It looks like it'll be a decently entertaining watch, but I don't really have any strong feelings either way. And I did watch it twice, the second time frequently pausing to see if there were any easter eggs hidden in the background. I couldn't find any.

I gotta say though, Hitch is really cute!
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Post by: NanoRuby on August 12, 2021, 10:27:42 AM
I really liked the trailer! There was some weird editing, the voice clips seemed to cut out at weird times a lot, but overall I thought it was very cute. ^^
All the characters seem fun and likeable. I've been a bit unsure of Hitch for a while, but he's definitely growing on me. And all the locations/backgrounds look gorgeous! The animators and modelers and compositors and lighting team clearly put a ton of effort into this.
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Post by: InkyMilk on August 12, 2021, 12:32:10 PM
I probably laughed at the 'This isn't my kid!' line WAY harder than necessary 😆 But dang, the whole trailer left me with such a big smile on my face. These ponies are so dang cute!!
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Post by: BlackCurtains on August 12, 2021, 12:39:50 PM
I liked it :) I wasn't very invested in G4, I watched seasons 1 and 2 and that was it so I don't have much to compare. But if I remember correctly, isn't there screenshots of Sunny as a kid playing with the G4 character toys? Maybe we will get a backstory about what happened OR maybe this is an entirely new universe?
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Post by: LadyAmalthea on August 12, 2021, 12:57:57 PM
Some of the voices/attitudes of the characters are grating to me. The 'ta-daaaa!!!' that Izzy does is like fingernails on a chalkboard, and Pip says something annoying too (I'd have to go back and rewatch to remember what it was) somewhere. I liked Hitch though, and I'm interested to see more of the Alphabittle guy...what is he supposed to be, a game show host or something?
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Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on August 12, 2021, 03:11:15 PM
Just watched the trailer.  I think I might actually watch this one.  It looks like fun.  Still not sure I want any of the toys but that's okay.  My little nephews might actually watch this, too, since they loved the Trolls movies.
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Post by: Bekuno on August 12, 2021, 03:44:38 PM
Someone on tumblr got their hands on one of the g5 books, and it reveals the entire film with screenshots in the span of 32 pages. Just be warned if your out there looking at things online!
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Post by: Dragonflitter on August 12, 2021, 04:05:18 PM
Lol you beat me to it, Bekuno!

So I work in a bookstore and we got in the G5 books today and I got to read through one of them! A very brief book of the movie, with screenshots. Opinions and spoilers together under the spoiler!

Spoiler
Sooooo I wanted to put my opinion under the spoiler too, just so I don't influence people who want to be totally surprised.

Firstly, just have to say the plot is basically exactly the same thing as the G4 rainbow special from the end of FiM. Pretend the town in the special is all of Equestria for the G5 movie and it's basically the same thing. I got annoyed because they just did this recently and I feel like there's a more interesting idea they could have done...

Sprout is the villain. He's Hitch's assistant and tries to take over his town in Hitch's absence. That got a yawn from me.

There's possibly a lot of little details that were not included in a brief 30 page picture book, so there might be some really enjoyable things. Songs, I'll bet! But the plot is such a snore I'm just...really not impressed.
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Post by: Flitter on August 12, 2021, 04:37:27 PM
I wonder how they plan to handle the main characters all living in different cities once the tv show rolls out.
I haven’t read the tumblr book leak yet but sounds like a mix of the first ep of FiM and Rainbow Roadtrip.
The trailer is more innocuous than expected. I’m not sure how likeable the ponies personalities are. They certainly aren’t resonating much with me so far. It’ll be interesting to see how popular G5 gets in comparison to G4.
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Post by: Ragamuffin on August 12, 2021, 05:31:43 PM
My reaction:

horse video cute :)
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Post by: Minty_Magic on August 12, 2021, 08:01:29 PM
I’m actually getting really excited for this movie! The trailer looks cute and I’m actually really impressed with the animation. I’m not a huge fan of CGI in general, but idk I’m digging the style of this movie so far. My only complaint is right now the voices are throwing me off. The ponies look so young, hearing fully grown adult voices coming out of their mouths is weirding me out.

Spoilers regarding the book leak under the cut
Spoiler
I actually did NOT see Sprout being the big villain coming. I definitely thought he might play a bully role, but not the big bad guy. I mean….I’m still convinced Phylis will play some sort villain role too. Aren’t these her glasses on the big ominous building?
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You’re telling me that whatever this big tech company or whatever it is is totally okay?? It looks like such a villain tower! I still think there’s something the book left out here.
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Post by: SunPony on August 12, 2021, 08:23:56 PM
Oh, I'm also happy to see Green Guard and Blue Guard in there... And specifically their hair colors at last!  I wonder if they will get any actual characterization.  I just think they are cute.

Unrelated to the trailer but I saw somewhere that
Spoiler
the ponies will have certain words associated with them, and Hitch's was Kindness.  I think it is cool that they let the boy have a "softer" trait.  I think Zipp was Courage, and Sunny was Hope... Can't remember the others and not sure how reliable this is.  Hitch also seems to have some kind of affiliation with animals?  Hitch is the new Fluttershy lol
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on August 13, 2021, 12:02:27 AM
I’m actually getting really excited for this movie! The trailer looks cute and I’m actually really impressed with the animation. I’m not a huge fan of CGI in general, but idk I’m digging the style of this movie so far. My only complaint is right now the voices are throwing me off. The ponies look so young, hearing fully grown adult voices coming out of their mouths is weirding me out.

Spoilers regarding the book leak under the cut
Spoiler
I actually did NOT see Sprout being the big villain coming. I definitely thought he might play a bully role, but not the big bad guy. I mean….I’m still convinced Phylis will play some sort villain role too. Aren’t these her glasses on the big ominous building?
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You’re telling me that whatever this big tech company or whatever it is is totally okay?? It looks like such a villain tower! I still think there’s something the book left out here.

My guess...
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Since Phyllis' empire business is built on seggregation, she'll probably nudge Spourt in the direction of a take over in Hitch's abscence to protect her interests.
It sounds very cookie cutter. A little disappointed that there is no actual non-pony antagonist. There is still the mystery of who or what took the magic away, so maybe we'll see full-on magical villains in the course of the show? Unless that's also a pony's doing.
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Post by: Goanna on August 13, 2021, 12:10:33 AM
Awww, that trailer was adorable! Looking forward to seeing the movie :-)
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Post by: Taffeta on August 13, 2021, 12:39:28 AM
I really want to watch it all through before making an overall opinion, but I think it may be a struggle from the trailer. I was never a fan of FIM but I did get through a couple of seasons before throwing in the towel. I really think it's not that there's anything wrong with G5 exactly, just that it's not especially new somehow? Like it feels tired before it's begun because of those sameish characters, sameish humour lines, etc...?

I hope that it's just badly cut and that whatever comes next will be more adventurous...though I don't feel anything very innovative from this project right now. Don't get me wrong, it's not offensive, it's just...there.

I probably also have a bit of a cultural disconnect with direct, in your face puns, so maybe I'm being a bit unfair on that count. It's just not my thing. If you can predict the joke is coming, too, it kind of ruins it.

Spoiler
I didn't even watch most of FIM but some of the trailer felt hauntingly familiar to me, it felt like stuff that already happened somewhere in FIM...
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on August 13, 2021, 12:57:21 AM
I really think it's not that there's anything wrong with G5 exactly, just that it's not especially new somehow? Like it feels tired before it's begun because of those sameish characters, sameish humour lines, etc...?

And that is exactly what it is. I couldn't help myself, and read the leaked book. It is nothing more than an extended FiM episode; elements of the pilot and of the series finale. Honestly, it's a script you could write in a day if you're familiar with FiM. Good thing this goes directly to Netflix, because it didn't seem theatre-worthy to me, except for the visuals.
This really makes me wish they had stuck with their first idea of creating a brand new world.
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Post by: ridi on August 13, 2021, 02:43:18 AM
Someone on tumblr got their hands on one of the g5 books, and it reveals the entire film with screenshots in the span of 32 pages. Just be warned if your out there looking at things online!

Do you have a link? :shy:
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on August 13, 2021, 02:58:32 AM
Someone on tumblr got their hands on one of the g5 books, and it reveals the entire film with screenshots in the span of 32 pages. Just be warned if your out there looking at things online!

Do you have a link? :shy:

here ya go :)
Spoiler
https://chinchillalace.tumblr.com/post/659343260348809216/my-little-pony-a-new-adventure-book-scans (https://chinchillalace.tumblr.com/post/659343260348809216/my-little-pony-a-new-adventure-book-scans)
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Post by: ridi on August 13, 2021, 03:18:27 AM
Someone on tumblr got their hands on one of the g5 books, and it reveals the entire film with screenshots in the span of 32 pages. Just be warned if your out there looking at things online!

Do you have a link? :shy:

here ya go :)
Spoiler
https://chinchillalace.tumblr.com/post/659343260348809216/my-little-pony-a-new-adventure-book-scans (https://chinchillalace.tumblr.com/post/659343260348809216/my-little-pony-a-new-adventure-book-scans)

Thank you!! :biggrin:
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Post by: Dragonflitter on August 13, 2021, 06:31:37 AM
Just realized something about the villain...

Spoiler
The Sprout thing reminds me of Hans from Frozen. Remember when Frozen first was advertised, before it actually came out, the trailers and posters all included Hans along with Elsa, Anna, and Kristoff? They wanted us to think it was a movie about two princesses and two male love interests, to keep the twist of the villain as a surprise.

That reminds me of the advertising we've seen so far for G5. Sprout is always shown along with the other characters and he has the same smiling expression of all of them. His design is about the same of any of the ponies. There's really nothing to indicate he's a villain, even the toy we've seen makes him look no different than Hitch.

I don't know if him being the antagonist is supposed to be a twist, so to speak, but I think it's interesting how they represented him in advertising compared to his role in the movie.
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Post by: Taffeta on August 13, 2021, 06:38:17 AM
My biggest fear for G5 before it happened was that Hasbro would be too reluctant to let go of G4-ness. I am happy we have new characters, but...I don't know. If the kids love it, then all to the good. But yeah. Trying to forcibly relive the success of G4 by redressing it in new animation style and through those characters is kind of indicative of how low MLP as a brand has fallen.

In every prior reboot of the franchise, and I include G4, there has been a fresh new look and a fresh new world. This has the former, but not the latter.

If MLP survives this experiment, we'll see whether it perks up again in the future. But...I was always afraid G4 and it's mad success would destroy any chance of something fresh and new going forward. I'l be really sad if this is as far as it goes and no further.
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on August 13, 2021, 06:57:45 AM
Just realized something about the villain...

Spoiler
The Sprout thing reminds me of Hans from Frozen. Remember when Frozen first was advertised, before it actually came out, the trailers and posters all included Hans along with Elsa, Anna, and Kristoff? They wanted us to think it was a movie about two princesses and two male love interests, to keep the twist of the villain as a surprise.

That reminds me of the advertising we've seen so far for G5. Sprout is always shown along with the other characters and he has the same smiling expression of all of them. His design is about the same of any of the ponies. There's really nothing to indicate he's a villain, even the toy we've seen makes him look no different than Hitch.

I don't know if him being the antagonist is supposed to be a twist, so to speak, but I think it's interesting how they represented him in advertising compared to his role in the movie.

The plot is about as deep as a serving tray and has as many twists and turns as Route 66. I've abandoned all hope for interesting and surprising elements :)
But I'm fairly certain that the youngest of the target demographic will love it, because it is easily digestible and cutely presented.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Midnight Dream on August 13, 2021, 08:32:27 AM
Honestly, I'm not impressed with this trailer :/ 

First, I don't like that it's a FIM continuation. I feel that FIM has run it's course and should be just put to rest. I wish they would have just started from the beginning like with the other generations.
Also if this is sequel to FIM some things feel really weird, for example the earth ponies reaction to unicorn, I understand that something happened that separated the pony races, but after a series that put an emphasis on how friendship is important it comes of as jarring.

Second, I see people comparing it to FIM, but to me it doesn't feel as MLP movie at all. Although FIM already was different from previous generations it at least had it's own distinctive style, this just looks like a generic animated movie and the jokes doesn't help.

I know I sound extremely negative, but nothing about it peaked my interest, it just felt very bland.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 13, 2021, 09:25:41 AM
Time to update the title, huh?
Trailer was cute! I don't have any huge thoughts about it but I enjoy the animation and the humor seems to be pretty average for a kids movie. :)
I really don't like that there is a villain. It felt like it really didn't need one. :(
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: Taffeta on August 13, 2021, 09:26:01 AM
TBH all of G5 has been a bit bland. The colour palette for the toys is very conservative, the colour palette for the animation likewise...I wonder whether this is on purpose to try and break away from the more controversial aspects of the past or if it's just that the current designers like these schemes/they did some random research which told them 90% of everything now has to be orange, pink, purple or shades between those three.

It's like I said before. There's nothing essentially wrong with it. It just doesn't stand out in the slightest. For all I dislike FIM, it stood out and it grabbed attention right from the very opening.

It's hard to know from a trailer if this is the tone of the whole movie though. But it is in keeping with the lack of creativity in the toyline and the names of the ponies.

Generic is the right word.

I'm hesitant on the humour aspect since more direct humour is more common in American movies and animation and just because it's not my personal taste doesn't necessarily mean it's not funny and won't go down well. But I do feel like the scene with Izzy's appearance and the one in Sunny's house are both contrived Pinkie Pie humour, rather than actually funny. If you see the joke coming it isn't a joke ("that's not my kid. Really obvious and totally predictable).

I also don't know whether it's really appropriate to have a 'joke' scene where everyone is running away from a pony because she's different. It almost feels like something that shouldn't be funny, or that Izzy at least should take more damage from. This is hard to analyse without the context of why she's there all of a sudden, and I hope there is an actual reason rather than Pinkie Pie random "just turned up, LOL". But I'm thinking how that translates over to human beings and imagining how it would feel to be a new kid in a class with everyone running away from you...like it's a joke. And I just...don't like it.

It feels like a show written by people who have never experienced what it really means to be outside of the crowd or different in any meaningful way...it bothers me.

It bothered me in FIM as well, don't get me wrong, but FIM started in 2011 and since then a lot has happened in diversity spaces.

I don't really favour a pony town where they all run from a unicorn because of hearsay, but I think would be okay with it if it wasn't a joke. :/
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 8/13, Trailer!
Post by: Ponyfan on August 13, 2021, 11:52:55 AM
I saw the trailer this morning and I'm not impressed.  I also feel like this is another version of FIM in a more modern world. 

All of the humor in trailer fell flat for me expect that one moment where the one of the ponies yelled at Hitch that it wasn't her child that he had given her.

Even though I wasn't expecting much from this trailer I was disappointed with the scene where Izzy was tying to balance the can on her horn and dropped it.  It seemed that she was just a new version of Pinkie Pie in that moment. 

I don't know if it's because I was watching the trailer on my phone but the color palette seems very muted and dull instead of brighter like I'd expect MLP to be.

One thing that really made me scratch my head is their teeth. The teeth looked really strange to me.

 I'm not sure how I feel about all of the Earth ponies running away from Izzy.   I thought she might say something like "Why is everyone running away from me?  I'm really nice!" but then it cut to Sunny trying to get Izzy out of town.


Ponyfan


Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 8/13, Trailer!
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on August 13, 2021, 12:42:07 PM
The color palette made me think of Grayvale in the G1 Nightshade episode, muted instead of bright like in Dream Valley, especially since none of the ponies have super obvious symbols, they kind of blend into their flanks.  On second look, they only have symbols on one side...like the toys...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 8/13, Trailer!
Post by: Taffeta on August 13, 2021, 01:05:22 PM
Sister and I were talking about this earlier and both agreeing that it would be nice to see a blue pony with red hair. Naynie always liked them as a kid, but it dawned on me that that colour scheme completely skipped G4. The closest is Snowcatcher I think?? So it would have been nice to see that.

I would also love to see proper yellows and greens as well.

If Hasbro believe girls don't like these colours, they're misguided.
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Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
Post by: glitterball on August 13, 2021, 01:41:11 PM
It’s here

https://youtu.be/J2I5HtYlwrQ

Oh wow! 24th Sept, eh? My kid is looking forward to watching this, her favourite part of this trailer was... 
Spoiler
...the bit near the end where there were fluff-ball bunny creatures  :bunny: :bunny: :bunny: 
   :biggrin:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 8/13, Trailer!
Post by: Ponybookworm on August 13, 2021, 01:57:29 PM
Sister and I were talking about this earlier and both agreeing that it would be nice to see a blue pony with red hair. Naynie always liked them as a kid, but it dawned on me that that colour scheme completely skipped G4. The closest is Snowcatcher I think?? So it would have been nice to see that.

I would also love to see proper yellows and greens as well.

If Hasbro believe girls don't like these colours, they're misguided.
#
Personally I'd love a whole rainbow of colours in my Ponyworld, & green has always been a rare colour
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 8/13, Trailer!
Post by: SunPony on August 13, 2021, 02:09:25 PM
Even though I wasn't expecting much from this trailer I was disappointed with the scene where Izzy was tying to balance the can on her horn and dropped it.  It seemed that she was just a new version of Pinkie Pie in that moment. 

I don't think she was trying to balance the can on her horn, I think she was showing how she could open a can with her horn.  I was a bit confused the first time I watched it, too, but after a few rewatches I think that is what was happening.  Not sure why she then drops it on the ground, though, maybe that part is an accident?

Another thing I started thinking about after watching it a few times is the scene where Zipp appears.    At this point pegasi cannot fly, right?  But she appears to kind of be flying - I wonder if Sunny and Izzy encountered her practicing/trying to fly (like running and leaping into the air with her wings out.  Then she talks to herself...ah the trailer makes me more curious about her character most of all.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 8/13, Trailer!
Post by: Taffeta on August 13, 2021, 02:12:14 PM
Then she talks to herself...ah the trailer makes me more curious about her character most of all.
I just saw Izzy as Pinkie Pie 2.0 and Zipp as Rainbow Dash 2.0.

:/

Hopefully wrong on the second, not overly hopeful of being wrong on the first though.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 8/13, Trailer!
Post by: SunPony on August 13, 2021, 02:59:34 PM
Then she talks to herself...ah the trailer makes me more curious about her character most of all.
I just saw Izzy as Pinkie Pie 2.0 and Zipp as Rainbow Dash 2.0.

:/

Hopefully wrong on the second, not overly hopeful of being wrong on the first though.

To be honest I'm not really interested in comparisons of G5 characterizations to G4 characterizations.  I didn't watch much of FiM.  :shrug:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 8/13, Trailer!
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on August 13, 2021, 03:29:33 PM
Then she talks to herself...ah the trailer makes me more curious about her character most of all.
I just saw Izzy as Pinkie Pie 2.0 and Zipp as Rainbow Dash 2.0.

:/

Hopefully wrong on the second, not overly hopeful of being wrong on the first though.
I don't think Izzy is going to be as bad as Pinkie Pie in personality. They over did it with Pinkie.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 8/13, Trailer!
Post by: Taffeta on August 13, 2021, 04:45:58 PM
Then she talks to herself...ah the trailer makes me more curious about her character most of all.
I just saw Izzy as Pinkie Pie 2.0 and Zipp as Rainbow Dash 2.0.

:/

Hopefully wrong on the second, not overly hopeful of being wrong on the first though.

To be honest I'm not really interested in comparisons of G5 characterizations to G4 characterizations.  I didn't watch much of FiM.  :shrug:

Nor did I, which is why it disturbs me that I already made that parallel :/
Mind you they were also the two personalities that I found the most grating in FIM, so maybe they stuck with me.

I'd like to hope Izzy won't be as bad, but her behaviour so far doesn't bode very well. Hasbro LOVE pinkie, don't forget. And they think she's funny. So...even if Izzy is Pinkie lite, she looks like she's going to be annoying :/
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 8/13, Trailer!
Post by: Ponyfan on August 13, 2021, 07:16:30 PM
Even though I wasn't expecting much from this trailer I was disappointed with the scene where Izzy was tying to balance the can on her horn and dropped it.  It seemed that she was just a new version of Pinkie Pie in that moment. 

I don't think she was trying to balance the can on her horn, I think she was showing how she could open a can with her horn.  I was a bit confused the first time I watched it, too, but after a few rewatches I think that is what was happening.  Not sure why she then drops it on the ground, though, maybe that part is an accident?


That makes more sense.  I thought at first she was trying to do a trick.


Ponyfan

Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 8/13, Trailer!
Post by: hilamb on August 13, 2021, 10:22:12 PM
I liked that trailer!! The artwork is beautiful. Izzy seems like such a cutye pony. I cant wait to see the movie
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 8/13, Trailer!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 14, 2021, 11:50:24 AM
This is very low-budget...Pixar/DreamWorks.

And hey, the Green Guard has green hair! I finally know how to do my custom of him. Hooray!

The ponies running away from Izzy was just lame and ott.

Izzy gives off G3 Rarity energy. Hey wanna see a cool trick? I can make a mess on the floor with my horn and your can of beans. Pretty neat huh?

I neither like, nor dislike it.

Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 8/13, Trailer!
Post by: Esbayne on August 22, 2021, 06:56:28 PM
Oh my god, it's so stupid in the most charming of ways, I love it. XD

This is the first MLP media since G3 to truly suck me in, or so I feel so far. XD
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 02, 2021, 09:04:16 PM
Update with Glowin' Up song release. :)

It might be worth mentioning that this is made by a different team than the other songs, at least I'm pretty sure. I'm too tired to check.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: ridi on September 03, 2021, 03:40:37 AM
Oh! :whoa: Admittedly it's really weird to hear a pony song that sounds just like any regular ol pop song as someone who grew up with the 80s cartoon, but it's really catchy! I've listened to it a few times already.

I wish the lyrics were available. I'm really bad at making out the words of songs.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 03, 2021, 06:20:15 AM

I wish the lyrics were available. I'm really bad at making out the words of songs.
A lyric video with a few more scenes was released by the official Youtube channel. :) So we have some actual lyrics!
Spoiler
     Glowin' up kind of love
        Dip and slide through the cut
        Glowin' up kind of love
        We say "Hi", you say "What?"
        Ooh-ooh-ooh, hoo, ooh, ooh
        Ooh-ooh-ooh, hoo, ooh, hoo, ooh
        Oh, oh, oh, oh

        I used to care what they'd say
        Let 'em into my brain
        But I found a new way
        Ooh-hoo-ooh
        Every time I fall down
        I pick it up like rebound
        Gotta get through somehow

        We don’t fly like we used to
        We take what we’ve been through
        And we can feel brand new
        Ooh-hoo-hoo
        I know I am a fighter, I feel the fire
        I’m shinin’ brighter
        Ooh-hoo-hoo

        We got the light
        We’re coming in stronger
        We’re in it together
        If you want it it’s all inside your mind
        We got thе light
        Won’t wait any longer
        We’ll get it togеther
        If you want it then you can paint the sky

        Glowin' up kind of love
        Dip and slide through the cut
        Glowin' up kind of love
        We say "Hi", you say "What?"
        Glowin' up kind of love
        Dip and slide through the cut
        Glowin' up kind of love
        We say "Hi", you say "What?"

        Everywhere that I’ve been
        Yeah, they say I’m say different
        But I’m good in my skin
        Ooh-hoo-ooh (Hey)
        If it doesn’t feel right
        Break it in with tie-dye
        And don’t you stop ’til sunrise

        We don’t fly like we used to
        We take what we’ve been through
        And we can feel brand new
        Ooh-hoo-hoo
        I know I am a fighter (Fighter), I feel the fire (Fire)
        I’m shinin’ brighter
        Ooh-hoo-hoo

        We got the light
        We’re coming in stronger
        We’re in it together
        If you want it it’s all inside your mind (Inside your mind, yeah)
        We got the light
        Won’t wait any longer
        We’ll get it together
        If you want it then you can paint the sky (Hey)

        Glowin' up kind of love
        Dip and slide through the cut
        Glowin' up kind of love
        We say "Hi", you say "What?"
        Glowin' up kind of love
        Dip and slide through the cut
        Glowin' up kind of love
        We say "Hi", you say "What?"

        (Ooh-ooh-ooh, hoo, ooh, ooh)
        We got the kind of (Ooh-ooh-ooh, hoo, ooh, ooh)
        We got the kind of love (Oh, oh, oh)
        We got the light (Ooh-ooh-ooh, hoo, ooh, ooh)
        We got the kind of (Ooh-ooh-ooh, hoo, ooh, ooh)
        We got the kind of love (Oh, oh, oh, oh)
        We got the light

        Glowin’ up kind of love
        Dip and slide through the cut
        Glowin’ up kind of love
        We say “Hi”, you say “What?”
        Glowin’ up kind of love (We got the kind of)
        Dip and slide through the cut (We got the kind of love)
        Glowin’ up kind of love
        We say “Hi”

        We got the light
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Bekuno on September 03, 2021, 08:10:02 AM
The song is pretty cute! A little too mediocre as a pop song for my taste, but it does what it needs for the movie. It's definitely catch though.

It seems the person who had posted the new adventure book scans got bullied into removing them, and I can't find them anymore, but I found some translated tidbits from another book (polish I believe?) that give us some info on our side characters.

Spoiler
https://egmont.pl/My-Little-Pony.-Opowiesc-filmowa,57061381,p.html book link with previews (very small and in polish)

"It was a sunny afternoon in Maretime Bay.
Little Sunny and her friends Sprout and Hitch were sitting in the lighthouse where Sunny lived and playing with figurines of ponies from former Equestria.
The Twilight Sparkle figurine cut through the sky and the Rainbow Dash figurine shouted:
Adventure!!! I'm in!
Princess of Friendship gave orders:
Earth ponies! Pegasuses! Unicorns! Follow me! We will…
Spread love! — Fluttershy finished.
Hug everyone! — Pinkie Pie added."

And fry brains! — Sprout yelled, waving the Rarity figurine. — The unicorns will attack everyone with the power of their horns!
Stop it, Sprout! — Ponies of all races are supposed to be friends with each other, remember?
Your version is boring and stupid! — Sprout snorted — Besides, my mother says that unicorns and pegasi would love to fry and eat us. Right, Hitch!

---

"Hitch nodded uncertainly. Sunny lowered her head resignedly.
It's not true. You will see… — she said, but her friends did not listen to her.
Soon the three ponies joined Argyle, Sunny's dad, who was studying the ancient scrolls of Equestria.
I think it's time to go home, don't you boys? — Argyle said as Phyllis, Sprout's mum, stood in the doorway.
Sprout, how many times have I told you not to go away without my permission? And certainly not here! — she snarled.
Why is that, Mrs. Cloverleaf? — Argyle welcomed her with a smile.
Everyone knows you space them out with your stories — Phillis snorted.
Let's go, boys. And you Argyle, you should give a better example to your daughter."


Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 03, 2021, 08:33:35 AM
Bekuno, someone in the G5 Wiki server has archived the one book on Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/Mk0y0qG)!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Bekuno on September 03, 2021, 08:54:38 AM
Bekuno, someone in the G5 Wiki server has archived the one book on Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/Mk0y0qG)!

Thank you!! I wanted to read it again but haven't found a copy in stores yet  ^.^
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Taffeta on September 03, 2021, 10:10:49 AM
The song makes me feel like it's a post-COVID fight song...:)

Have to wonder about the philosophy of breaking in with tye-dye though. :)


Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Ponyfan on September 03, 2021, 01:00:51 PM
I just listened to the song.  I think it can be catchy but I had a hard time understanding a lot of the words.  I thought this might be the same song that the big Izzy plush sings but she mentions unicorn horns and I didn't hear anything about that in this. 

I get the generic pop song vibe too.  If I didn't know that this was supposed to related to MLP I don't think I would have realized that it was.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: SunPony on September 03, 2021, 08:18:07 PM
I just heard an ad for the new movie on the radio tonight!  First time I've ever heard any MLP ad on the radio, and it was at about 10pm...interesting.  I only caught the second half of the ad so I'm wondering if they played the new song beforehand!  I also wonder if this will be the credits song for the movie. 
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 03, 2021, 08:33:15 PM
I just heard an ad for the new movie on the radio tonight!  First time I've ever heard any MLP ad on the radio, and it was at about 10pm...interesting.  I only caught the second half of the ad so I'm wondering if they played the new song beforehand!  I also wonder if this will be the credits song for the movie.

Like a news radio station? I'm sure I know quite a few people who'd love to find and archive it. :P
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: SunPony on September 03, 2021, 09:31:56 PM
I just heard an ad for the new movie on the radio tonight!  First time I've ever heard any MLP ad on the radio, and it was at about 10pm...interesting.  I only caught the second half of the ad so I'm wondering if they played the new song beforehand!  I also wonder if this will be the credits song for the movie.

Like a news radio station? I'm sure I know quite a few people who'd love to find and archive it. :P

No it was just a regular "current hits" radio station.  It was one owned by IHeartRadio, Kiss 107.1 in Cincinnati.  It was...sometime between 9:30 and 10:30pm, probably pretty close to 10pm.

Edit: I just looked at their songs played list and the mlp song wasn't included so I guess it really was just a straight up ad for the movie!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: ridi on September 04, 2021, 01:15:57 AM

I wish the lyrics were available. I'm really bad at making out the words of songs.
A lyric video with a few more scenes was released by the official Youtube channel. :) So we have some actual lyrics!
Spoiler
     Glowin' up kind of love
        Dip and slide through the cut
        Glowin' up kind of love
        We say "Hi", you say "What?"
        Ooh-ooh-ooh, hoo, ooh, ooh
        Ooh-ooh-ooh, hoo, ooh, hoo, ooh
        Oh, oh, oh, oh

        I used to care what they'd say
        Let 'em into my brain
        But I found a new way
        Ooh-hoo-ooh
        Every time I fall down
        I pick it up like rebound
        Gotta get through somehow

        We don’t fly like we used to
        We take what we’ve been through
        And we can feel brand new
        Ooh-hoo-hoo
        I know I am a fighter, I feel the fire
        I’m shinin’ brighter
        Ooh-hoo-hoo

        We got the light
        We’re coming in stronger
        We’re in it together
        If you want it it’s all inside your mind
        We got thе light
        Won’t wait any longer
        We’ll get it togеther
        If you want it then you can paint the sky

        Glowin' up kind of love
        Dip and slide through the cut
        Glowin' up kind of love
        We say "Hi", you say "What?"
        Glowin' up kind of love
        Dip and slide through the cut
        Glowin' up kind of love
        We say "Hi", you say "What?"

        Everywhere that I’ve been
        Yeah, they say I’m say different
        But I’m good in my skin
        Ooh-hoo-ooh (Hey)
        If it doesn’t feel right
        Break it in with tie-dye
        And don’t you stop ’til sunrise

        We don’t fly like we used to
        We take what we’ve been through
        And we can feel brand new
        Ooh-hoo-hoo
        I know I am a fighter (Fighter), I feel the fire (Fire)
        I’m shinin’ brighter
        Ooh-hoo-hoo

        We got the light
        We’re coming in stronger
        We’re in it together
        If you want it it’s all inside your mind (Inside your mind, yeah)
        We got the light
        Won’t wait any longer
        We’ll get it together
        If you want it then you can paint the sky (Hey)

        Glowin' up kind of love
        Dip and slide through the cut
        Glowin' up kind of love
        We say "Hi", you say "What?"
        Glowin' up kind of love
        Dip and slide through the cut
        Glowin' up kind of love
        We say "Hi", you say "What?"

        (Ooh-ooh-ooh, hoo, ooh, ooh)
        We got the kind of (Ooh-ooh-ooh, hoo, ooh, ooh)
        We got the kind of love (Oh, oh, oh)
        We got the light (Ooh-ooh-ooh, hoo, ooh, ooh)
        We got the kind of (Ooh-ooh-ooh, hoo, ooh, ooh)
        We got the kind of love (Oh, oh, oh, oh)
        We got the light

        Glowin’ up kind of love
        Dip and slide through the cut
        Glowin’ up kind of love
        We say “Hi”, you say “What?”
        Glowin’ up kind of love (We got the kind of)
        Dip and slide through the cut (We got the kind of love)
        Glowin’ up kind of love
        We say “Hi”

        We got the light

Oh thank you! Lol they're really cheesy but that's to be expected :biggrin:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Minty_Magic on September 04, 2021, 02:26:37 AM
Maybe I’m stupid, but does anyone else think the lyrics to the songs don’t make a lot of sense? Seems like they just strung together random words that sounded good together, particularly in the chorus. The lines in the verses are better IMO. (I’m not super well versed in music terminology, I hope I got those right! :P )

It is undeniably catchy though! A little generic for my tastes, but it matches the tone of a lot of other animated movies pop end songs. It sounds like it would fit in well as a celebration concert after they get their magic back. :)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on September 04, 2021, 04:27:51 AM
Honestly the chorus is the part of the song I don't like in this case. Maybe because of how it's done or something...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 04, 2021, 06:02:33 AM
Maybe I’m stupid, but does anyone else think the lyrics to the songs don’t make a lot of sense? Seems like they just strung together random words that sounded good together, particularly in the chorus. The lines in the verses are better IMO. (I’m not super well versed in music terminology, I hope I got those right! :P )

It is undeniably catchy though! A little generic for my tastes, but it matches the tone of a lot of other animated movies pop end songs. It sounds like it would fit in well as a celebration concert after they get their magic back. :)
I'm gonna have to agree. It comes off as a little disjointed at times but I did enjoy the song overall and think that it'll be a good finale.   :ohyeah:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 04, 2021, 07:53:33 AM
Hah, I was trying to figure out the lyrics alongside some Discord folks. Here's what stumped us:

"Let 'em into my brain" kept sounding like Little men to my brain. Someone kept insisting it said "Little went a long way".

"Pick it up like rebound" Cream/queen brown. :)

"Dip and slide through the cut" I kept hearing a ck sound at the end, thought maybe it was "Clouds" being stretched to rhyme. The actual lyric makes much less sense than Clouds would have.

"We got the kind of....we got the kind of love" It just sounds like thunder and I still hear something less than appropriate. :P

"If you want it then you can paint the sky" The "then" has a long E sound like in "Be" so..it sounded like Be.

I'd imagine the rest of the songs will be easier to decipher and much more traditionally "Musical" so we shouldn't have as hard a time if they get spotify released before the movie...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Taffeta on September 04, 2021, 09:24:44 AM
Maybe I’m stupid, but does anyone else think the lyrics to the songs don’t make a lot of sense? Seems like they just strung together random words that sounded good together, particularly in the chorus. The lines in the verses are better IMO. (I’m not super well versed in music terminology, I hope I got those right! :P )

It is undeniably catchy though! A little generic for my tastes, but it matches the tone of a lot of other animated movies pop end songs. It sounds like it would fit in well as a celebration concert after they get their magic back. :)
I'm gonna have to agree. It comes off as a little disjointed at times but I did enjoy the song overall and think that it'll be a good finale.   :ohyeah:

I thought this, but then I kind of put it down to being a kid's show. I think it'd be asking too much of it to expect it to be high quality lyric or music, it's there to do a job, not steal the limelight. Probably the biggest job is to get into the heads of kids, honestly.

Although I might also be inured to this because some of the lyrics that pop up in anime theme songs are entirely nonsensical (in part because they're shoving English words into Japanese sentences that render both meaningless).

So yeah. I noticed that the song had absolutely no meaning, but is that really something unusual?

Thinking about it, and being brutally honest, does "something is starting, right now, something is starting, oh wow" mean a lot more?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Dragonflitter on September 04, 2021, 09:54:33 AM
Wow apparently I'm in the minority but that song made me want to throw up.  :X

It's not just that it has nothing to do with anything about MLP, not just that the lyrics make no sense, but it just sounds horrible. Reminds me of that Pony Life commercial where the ponies were singing "Feelin' good as hell!" Just doesn't match the MLP brand.

At least when they made a pop song for Sia to sing for the FiM movie, they actually wove it into the plot of the movie and it connected to what Twilight was feeling as the main plot arc of the movie.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Taffeta on September 04, 2021, 10:14:57 AM
Wow apparently I'm in the minority but that song made me want to throw up.  :X

It's not just that it has nothing to do with anything about MLP, not just that the lyrics make no sense, but it just sounds horrible. Reminds me of that Pony Life commercial where the ponies were singing "Feelin' good as hell!" Just doesn't match the MLP brand.

At least when they made a pop song for Sia to sing for the FiM movie, they actually wove it into the plot of the movie and it connected to what Twilight was feeling as the main plot arc of the movie.

I don't really think I had an opinion of the song. It was just a bunch of saccharin words and music mashed together.
But it fits G5 very well, IMO, in that G5 also seems to be a bunch of ideas mashed together without having a clear aim or purpose that stands out on its own...so...yeah. It's fine that way I think?

I always liked Sia's music, but my thoughts on her as a human being now following the debacle of her movie are not repeatable on this forum.

I'm quite glad they went down a different path for this, even if it is nonsensical.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: DazzleBright on September 04, 2021, 06:22:58 PM
I thought that “in the cut” was a rap thing that meant you were “in the hood” lol… An interesting choice for a my little pony song
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Flitter on September 05, 2021, 07:44:23 AM
That song seems like it was was written and composed by a pop song AI  :sleepy:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Minty_Magic on September 05, 2021, 07:49:12 AM
Phew, glad I’m not alone in being confused by the lyrics! I thought maybe there was some new lingo I wasn’t up to date on. :lol:
Maybe I’m stupid, but does anyone else think the lyrics to the songs don’t make a lot of sense? Seems like they just strung together random words that sounded good together, particularly in the chorus. The lines in the verses are better IMO. (I’m not super well versed in music terminology, I hope I got those right! :P )

It is undeniably catchy though! A little generic for my tastes, but it matches the tone of a lot of other animated movies pop end songs. It sounds like it would fit in well as a celebration concert after they get their magic back. :)
I'm gonna have to agree. It comes off as a little disjointed at times but I did enjoy the song overall and think that it'll be a good finale.   :ohyeah:

I thought this, but then I kind of put it down to being a kid's show. I think it'd be asking too much of it to expect it to be high quality lyric or music, it's there to do a job, not steal the limelight. Probably the biggest job is to get into the heads of kids, honestly.

Although I might also be inured to this because some of the lyrics that pop up in anime theme songs are entirely nonsensical (in part because they're shoving English words into Japanese sentences that render both meaningless).

So yeah. I noticed that the song had absolutely no meaning, but is that really something unusual?

Thinking about it, and being brutally honest, does "something is starting, right now, something is starting, oh wow" mean a lot more?


This is a fair point! As far as the lyrics “something is starting right now, something is starting, oh wow”, they may be real simple, but at least they make sense to me. I guess that’s what kills me about the lyrics in this song, it’s not just silly surface level feel good lyrics, it’s straight up nonsense in a lot of spots. I have ZERO idea what “dip and slide through the cut” even means. Maybe it’ll make more sense within the context of the movie, but it’s weird. “We say Hi, you say what?” Is also a bizarre line to me.

I also don’t think that just because it’s a kids movie means the lyrics have to be bad. I know this movie didn’t have nearly the budget of a Disney movie, but Zootopia stands out as having a good end pop song that could stand on its own right. “Try Everything” fit in well with the context of the movie and served a purpose, however it’s also a good song to someone who’s never seen the movie. I always kind of thought that was the point of adding the generic pop song into animated movies. Play it on the radio, if people dig it, maybe they’ll watch the movie too. Maybe I’m way off base with that though! :P

That being said…..it sounds like if pop isn’t your thing this movie is going to have a crazy range of different genres. Quote taken from Animation Magazine.
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“We knew that we wanted to have an eclectic range of genres in the songs,” says Cullen. “We wanted to mix things up a bit and set out to make this as unpredictable as we can because some people might go into the movie with preconceived ideas. No one would expect a punk rock, Nirvana-esque song in this movie”

My Little Pony and punk???? I’m excited and terrified at the same time if I’m being honest. :blink: Oh, and link to the article if anyone wants to take a look. It’s an interesting read that also hits on some of the challenges they had with the character designs going 3D.
https://www.animationmagazine.net/features/my-little-pony-a-new-generation-galloping-to-greatness-again/ (https://www.animationmagazine.net/features/my-little-pony-a-new-generation-galloping-to-greatness-again/)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: SunPony on September 05, 2021, 08:31:48 AM
Oh thanks for the link to that article, it was pretty interesting to hear about their character design process.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 05, 2021, 10:43:41 AM
Interesting article, thanks for the link. I’m pretty curious about what they mean by “punk” as well, haha  :blink:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Taffeta on September 05, 2021, 01:21:02 PM
Nirvana-esque MLP music is something that really needs to be heard to be believed, I imagine...

Smells like pony spirit?? I dunno.

I agree that just because it's a kid's show, the lyrics don't need to be nonsense, but I also think that the quality of content - by which I specifically mean language/vocabulary - in kids' shows has been on the decline for a long time. I'm not talking about slang, which updates on its own, but just...words.

This is kind of a topic on its own and I don't want to go too far off the point but...the Jem series, which obviously made a rule of the song-in-ep model, had songs where they rhymed intimidation and stipulation, as well as caught/overwrought/distraught. I'd be really surprised to hear the word overwrought in a kid's show today.
(The song if anyone cares:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIslDJZAxxg
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIslDJZAxxg))
My caveat for this is that the Stingers probably have the most sophisticated lyrics of all the bands in the series. I am not a Stingers fan, but they do have awesome songs :)
 Jem is maybe aimed at an older age group than G5, but there are other shows I remember from childhood where there were some more complicated things included even if they were aimed at preschool or younger kids (eg the union strike in Bertha).

But it's also reflected in society. I don't know about in other places but when I was a kid, the station announcements used to tell you to be careful when you alight. Now they say 'get off the train'. And so on. It's like general use vocabulary has shrunk and this is also evident in kids' shows.

So instead of words that mean something, you get a lot of words that don't mean anything. Supplemented by existing slang and made up world slang and cutesy abbreviations etc (in terms of MLP, I guess 'everypony' is the obvious, albeit I will grant that G1 did have ponyfeathers).

A lot of songs that are made today have meaningless lyrics. That doesn't make them bad songs or unsuccessful. It's just more the norm to fill a song with cliche lines or random words that they want to make 'cool'. So I kind of see this song in that vein. It means absolutely nothing. But hey, there have always been songs that have meant literally nothing but been hugely successful...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 05, 2021, 01:29:55 PM
The songwriter is Jenna Andrews, you can see her credits for other songs here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenna_Andrews#Songwriting_and_production_credits). I don't recognize many of them but there they are.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: MJNSEIFER on September 05, 2021, 02:11:04 PM

A lot of songs that are made today have meaningless lyrics. That doesn't make them bad songs or unsuccessful. It's just more the norm to fill a song with cliche lines or random words that they want to make 'cool'. So I kind of see this song in that vein.
To be fair, I dissagree that a lot of songs today have meaningless lyrics - they do have meaning, it's just that "we" haven't found them yet.  I've seen a lot of songs, including today's music being "accused" of having no meaning when they actually do - a song wouldn't be given a lyric if there wasn't some reason for it being there, at least usually (I'm not saying there aren't moments where the singer/writer would openly admit "I don't know what that part means", but that's been going on for years - it's not a "today's songs" thing by a long shot.)

Song these days, definitely have a lot of meaning to them, as much so as "yesterday's" songs, and I can hear the meaning in them without knowing what they are, but once you research it - you can hear the meaning.  It is also worth noting that some songs, rather than having a whole "storyline" to them will sometimes have a compilation of meanings - like each verse or line has it's own meaning.  It's balanced like "old" music was - usually the only time a song doesn't have a meaning at all is when it's deliberately nonsensical, when the point of the song is something like "Here is a song to dance to, and this is how you dance to it."  or when the song is deliberately simplistic (and you could argue that even the latter two have meaning, albeit to a lesser extent.)

It is not something that stated with todays songs, it's been like that for years.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Taffeta on September 05, 2021, 02:28:50 PM

A lot of songs that are made today have meaningless lyrics. That doesn't make them bad songs or unsuccessful. It's just more the norm to fill a song with cliche lines or random words that they want to make 'cool'. So I kind of see this song in that vein.
To be fair, I dissagree that a lot of songs today have meaningless lyrics - they do have meaning, it's just that "we" haven't found them yet.

I think that's what you call semantics, it's also not what I was getting at. I wasn't saying all songs are meaningless, either. Just that there are songs which have no ostensible meaning in the lyric but still become successful.

It's not only an English phenomenon either.  There are songs in other languages that use the same formula. The words in the song might have an individual meaning, so might some of the phrases (as is true with the G5 song) but with those phrases put together it doesn't actually mean anything much at all.

My point is that it's not as though meaningless lyrics makes a song ineffective. It's how well that song gets into people's heads that matters.

I personally like lyrics - in whatever language - but sometimes the overall impact of the song is more important.

And it doesn't change the fact that vocabulary has been diluted, abbreviated and reinvented over the last 20+ years as well. I remember a colleague complaining to me years back that everything was being dumbed down and in effect it's true. You see a lot more people using grammar incorrectly as well - on official signs, in news articles, and so on. Places you never would see misplaced apostrophes, typos and spelling errors now often have them. I saw an article which said something would 'out way' something else the other day. That's a professional journalist. That's where we're at.

Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: MJNSEIFER on September 05, 2021, 02:45:31 PM
I see.  I probably got the wrong idea of what you were saying, and if that's the case, I apologise - I tend to get defensive over modern music due to nostalgia and passion, and I have seen people act like todays songs don't have meaning "anymore", so I jumped the gun and thought that's what you were doing, I guess.

Sorry.

Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: NanoRuby on September 05, 2021, 02:55:57 PM
Language changes over time. English didn't even have standardised spellings until relatively recently. I used to get really worked up over stuff like incorrect apostrophes, but I only have so much energy to use on worrying about things. Culture and music changes over time. There are plently of songs from many time periods and genres that have lyrics that don't really mean anything and plenty that do. Nothing really changes.

Personally, I like the song. It's nothing phenomenal, but ultimately it's just a pop song in a kids' movie. There are bigger fish to fry.

(But a punk rock song? Now that makes me interested!)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Ponyfan on September 05, 2021, 07:30:24 PM
I don't think the song makes a lot of sense either based on what we've seen so far.  I  went back to the singing Izzy pic on my phone and she sings "Fit Right In" so we have at least 2 songs in some format from the movie.   I get the feeling " Glowing Up" might be an end credits song.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Taffeta on September 06, 2021, 01:27:22 AM
Language changes over time. English didn't even have standardised spellings until relatively recently.

Language does change over time, but again, that's not the same as meaning. Besides, Johnson's dictionary was a couple of centuries ago at least. As someone who's worked with both mediaeval English and Japanese, that's actually pretty interesting - but irrelevant to a discussion on pony song lyrics IMO :) You could equally talk about how English is used differently in English speaking countries, but it's also irrelevant to meaning overall.

As regards grammar, it's not about being bothered by it per se, but that grammar errors shouldn't be permissable in a professional context. Whether that spreads to songs or not I'm not sure...but even so.

Speaking of the catchy but essentially nonsensical songs, here's a good example not in English. I found the original although I think it's painful to listen to in this version xD. But I don't have more than basic Chinese but even I can hear that there's nonsense going on in this song with the names.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj4IKguZpLM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj4IKguZpLM)

True, it's making fun of RPG games, but half of the song is ridiculous names.

The point of this kind of thing isn't to be the next shakespeare sonnet. It's to get in people's heads. Which I guarantee, works. (Although Zhou Shen's version makes it less horrible to listen to xD)

Then you think of all the people who end up downloading/humming/singing anime themes or kpop songs or whatever without speaking the language that the song is in. They're not caring so much what the words are, necessarily. They're caring about the fact the song is eating their brain. The songs may have great lyrics, but if you don't speak the language, that becomes a bit less important.

There are sections of this pony song which do the same thing. There are little twists in the music which sound like, if you listened to it a lot, you'd end up humming. Which is essentially 'job done'...right?

And let's not forget that Hasbro apparently made pony names more meaningless to make them less English-centric in other countries. Maybe the song is the same. Maybe it's not meant to have deep English meaning so that it can be easily transferred into other languages without losing the integral sense of the words.

I don't like the song, just to be clear. But it makes sense to me that the song is like it is.


Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 06, 2021, 07:23:50 AM
I  went back to the singing Izzy pic on my phone and she sings "Fit Right In" so we have at least 2 songs in some format from the movie.   I get the feeling " Glowing Up" might be an end credits song.

Let me check the Wiki, we have a few more songs than that so fa (https://g5mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Songs)r...

-Glowin' Up (Pipp Pop song, fully released)
-Danger, danger
-Fit Right In (The izzy solo song, partially released on the Izzy Plush)
-Gonna be my Day (The Sunny solo song, partially released on the Skate Starscout toy which we still need a video of!)
-I'm looking Out for You
-My Little Pony: A New Generation (The song)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Ponyfan on September 06, 2021, 10:27:01 AM


Then you think of all the people who end up downloading/humming/singing anime themes or kpop songs or whatever without speaking the language that the song is in. They're not caring so much what the words are, necessarily. They're caring about the fact the song is eating their brain. The songs may have great lyrics, but if you don't speak the language, that becomes a bit less important.





Have you been looking at my anime song  playlist? :D  I have so many songs on there where I can't understand a single word except for the English lines but I fell in love with the song anyway.


Let me check the Wiki, we have a few more songs than that so fa (https://g5mlp.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Songs)r...

-Glowin' Up (Pipp Pop song, fully released)
-Danger, danger
-Fit Right In (The izzy solo song, partially released on the Izzy Plush)
-Gonna be my Day (The Sunny solo song, partially released on the Skate Starscout toy which we still need a video of!)
-I'm looking Out for You
-My Little Pony: A New Generation (The song)


I didn't realize we had more songs.  :)  That's really interesting.  I found the Skate Sunny Starscout toy today too.   

"Glowing Up" is for sale in the iTunes store.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Taffeta on September 06, 2021, 10:43:26 AM


Then you think of all the people who end up downloading/humming/singing anime themes or kpop songs or whatever without speaking the language that the song is in. They're not caring so much what the words are, necessarily. They're caring about the fact the song is eating their brain. The songs may have great lyrics, but if you don't speak the language, that becomes a bit less important.





Have you been looking at my anime song  playlist? :D  I have so many songs on there where I can't understand a single word except for the English lines but I fell in love with the song anyway.

There are a bunch of anime songs I learned the lyrics for before I spoke Japanese, and so basically was just singing random sounds xD. One of those was the opening to S-CRY-ed, which now even though I can hear the words I still can't actually sing along with properly because...I don't know the words xD. It's a really catchy song though.

It's interesting that we have more songs. I knew about the plush one but not the others. But I think the plush one was also a bit scary and nonsensical...so maybe that's the gimmick of G5 music? To be catchy and not really thought provoking??

Something like, "just a bit of fun"? I dunno...

Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: AvianWing on September 07, 2021, 03:28:09 AM
New trailer, that... sort of gives away the plot of the movie so watch with caution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMLkv5EzCXo

Also this one, apparently randomly appearing as an ad on YouTube, which seems to focus on the song segments, but has many new shots:

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2021/9/6/2695261.webm
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 07, 2021, 05:15:37 AM
Interesting, thank you for sharing, AvianWing :good:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Sparkle Pony on September 07, 2021, 07:22:41 PM
I've been passively watching this develop from a distance for a while, but movies just are not that interesting to me! Do you guys think this movie is them testing the waters for a proper show or is it just a one-off?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on September 07, 2021, 07:55:52 PM
I've been passively watching this develop from a distance for a while, but movies just are not that interesting to me! Do you guys think this movie is them testing the waters for a proper show or is it just a one-off?

I thought they already said there's going to be a series.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Taffeta on September 07, 2021, 11:43:33 PM
I've been passively watching this develop from a distance for a while, but movies just are not that interesting to me! Do you guys think this movie is them testing the waters for a proper show or is it just a one-off?

I am like this too. :D I prefer series as well.

It may be they do a series of specials like EQG did, and MH and EAH...?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 08, 2021, 12:21:53 AM
Supposedly there’s going to be a special that’s followed by a TV series :awake:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Mrs. Prospector on September 08, 2021, 01:58:53 PM
Somebody posted a video of the "Gonna Be My Day" song the alicorn Sunny toy sings. I like this song better than the other two revealed so far, but it's hard to make a judgement due to the toy's sound quality and the fact that it's only a short clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38v6FYl6R3E

I wonder when the actual soundtrack will come out? Will it be before the movie? I have so many good memories of falls during 2014-2017 getting super hyped whenever the soundtrack to the latest MLP/EQG movie dropped and listening to it exclusively for like a week.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 08, 2021, 02:14:48 PM
That's a neat song, for what we have of it. Looking forward to what a HQ version of it sounds like  :enthralled:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Minty_Magic on September 08, 2021, 02:20:21 PM
Somebody posted a video of the "Gonna Be My Day" song the alicorn Sunny toy sings. I like this song better than the other two revealed so far, but it's hard to make a judgement due to the toy's sound quality and the fact that it's only a short clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38v6FYl6R3E

I wonder when the actual soundtrack will come out? Will it be before the movie? I have so many good memories of falls during 2014-2017 getting super hyped whenever the soundtrack to the latest MLP/EQG movie dropped and listening to it exclusively for like a week.

Aww I really like this song, it sounds good! Not to open that can of worms….but it’s got a little bit of a “Let it Go” vibe to it. :P Not that that’s a bad thing!

It would be fun to hear the songs before the movie. I guess when they release them may depend on how much the song gives away about the plot, but so far it seems like these songs don’t move the story along TOO much. It was always fun when a FiM song got leaked early and everyone tried to determine what the plot of the episode may be, and how the song tied in. :)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: MJNSEIFER on September 09, 2021, 05:58:25 AM
It was always fun when a FiM song got leaked early and everyone tried to determine what the plot of the episode may be, and how the song tied in. :)
Like "Smile" - I remember that being leaked fairly early and the bronies at least were trying to guess when it would be used, with some apparently fearing that it was never going to be used (it was definitely worth the wait, in my opinion. :good:)

I even remember someone assuming when "Baby Cakes" was announced, that it would be in that episode, and Pinkie Pie would sing it to the babies, but of course, that turned out to not be the case.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Bekuno on September 14, 2021, 10:03:18 AM
We got a full 1-minute clip of Sunny and Izzy! For those who have watched the trailer, this is where the can of beans scene happens lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXKIMLBdnNQ
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Ragamuffin on September 14, 2021, 03:02:32 PM
We got a full 1-minute clip of Sunny and Izzy! For those who have watched the trailer, this is where the can of beans scene happens lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXKIMLBdnNQ

I think they're cute! One of the things I'm excited for in G5 is the fact that the characters all have deeper voices. :P No more squeally chipmunk ponies...!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Ponyfan on September 14, 2021, 04:33:05 PM
We got a full 1-minute clip of Sunny and Izzy! For those who have watched the trailer, this is where the can of beans scene happens lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXKIMLBdnNQ


The can of beans scene makes a lot more sense now.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 14, 2021, 04:34:04 PM
We got a full 1-minute clip of Sunny and Izzy! For those who have watched the trailer, this is where the can of beans scene happens lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXKIMLBdnNQ

I think they're cute! One of the things I'm excited for in G5 is the fact that the characters all have deeper voices. :P No more squeally chipmunk ponies...!
That's a really specific problem I had that I was never really able to put my finger on; I enjoy the voices a lot more here  :good:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/3, First Official Song Release!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 14, 2021, 07:21:58 PM
We got a full 1-minute clip of Sunny and Izzy! For those who have watched the trailer, this is where the can of beans scene happens lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXKIMLBdnNQ

I think they're cute! One of the things I'm excited for in G5 is the fact that the characters all have deeper voices. :P No more squeally chipmunk ponies...!


Cheers to that.  :beerchug:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 15, 2021, 07:08:25 AM
Izzy Moonbow Korean time, check first post for link
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Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Bekuno on September 15, 2021, 10:58:51 AM
Izzy Moonbow Korean time, check first post for link
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I love it so much!!!  :frolic: :frolic: :frolic:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 15, 2021, 11:36:07 AM
That was really good!  :happy:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Dragonflitter on September 15, 2021, 06:00:40 PM
Omg I am laughing so hard. XD What a cute song! I really love Izzy and Hitch's Korean voice actors!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 16, 2021, 11:20:51 AM
A polish book was released which contains some pretty severe spoilers. Tread carefully if you frequent G5-heavy spaces!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on September 17, 2021, 08:50:22 PM
okay I haven't heard the English version but I like the sound of the Korean version
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Bekuno on September 18, 2021, 02:23:43 PM
New official clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfeij6tjJyU


Also just a warning that the movie released in Russia today, and there are camprip's floating around and clips being released on youtube!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: SunPony on September 18, 2021, 04:36:09 PM
New official clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfeij6tjJyU


Also just a warning that the movie released in Russia today, and there are camprip's floating around and clips being released on youtube!

Ah, the line about paperwork, it's a classic

I wonder why it came out in Russia before anywhere else (this is the first, right)?  Was some of the production done there or something? 
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 18, 2021, 04:46:52 PM

Ah, the line about paperwork, it's a classic

I wonder why it came out in Russia before anywhere else (this is the first, right)?  Was some of the production done there or something?
It was just a special early preview of it-not related to production stuff. It comes out in Hong Kong tomorrow.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Taffeta on September 20, 2021, 10:15:55 AM
Is it wrong to not want to watch fit right in in English after watching the Korean one? :P

...I'm trying to work out how I feel about the clip. It feels less like G4 than the trailer did, but I'm trying to put my finger on what it reminds me of.

Spoiler

Also, I want to start a conspiracy theory about what's underneath Phyllis' hair.  Just for reasons.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Ponyfan on September 20, 2021, 03:45:20 PM
I saw an ad on Facebook today that the soundtrack for the movie will be available Friday.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Dragonflitter on September 20, 2021, 05:02:50 PM
I love Fit Right In and I listen to it a lot on youtube but I only have one issue, and it's this part:

Izzy: This is how a unicorn walks!
Pipp: *struts out*
Me: Okay yes I get it, thumbs up.
Izzy: This is how a unicorn talks!
Zipp: *walks out, says nothing, walks off screen*
Me: Um...?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: SunPony on September 20, 2021, 08:11:45 PM

Spoiler

Also, I want to start a conspiracy theory about what's underneath Phyllis' hair.  Just for reasons.

Ha ha!  I'm game...

Spoiler
With all the talk about unicorns and mind control, maybe she's wearing a secret mind-control device of her own under there.  Or...a big bag of sugarcubes???

Post Merge: September 20, 2021, 08:35:56 PM

New official clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfeij6tjJyU


I just wanted to add some random commentary about this new clip...

Spoiler
They really went all-in on the anti-racism (technically speciesism?) message it looks like, that's very interesting.  Since I didn't watch much G4 I don't know how this compares to that. I wonder how the target audience will relate to it and what they will do with it.

Looks like Phyllis might be more villainous than I originally guessed.  Interesting since she seems like a "sweet middle aged lady" type character at first glance.  Her words/tone/characterization reminds me of something but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Minor detail, at first I was surprised when Hitch pulled the electric cord out with his hooves instead of his teeth, but then I thought they probably did that so kids wouldn't emulate it and go around biting electric cords XD

I love Sugar Moonlight and Sparklechaser and I hope they get toys (along with green guard!).  Also really liking Sunny's VA's work.

Hitch brought a crab and seagulls to his job where he is maintaining order at an event for...possibly-fascist-themed wearable technology.  Not a sentence I expected to ever type until very recently!

It kind of has a Monsters, Inc feel to it for reasons I'm not sure of???
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Taffeta on September 21, 2021, 07:51:04 AM
Ah!!

Spoiler
Monsters Inc! That's probably it. That's probably the vibe.
Although I know the anti-unicorn rally reminds me of not so nice human rallies as well, I don't want to make it political.

TBH I felt like the clip was more solid before Sunny randomly became a part of it. Even though the message she's putting out is important, I felt like it was somehow occluded a bit by the need to make this whole thing silly and that takes away the message a little bit. Plus added horns and wings...would that be cultural appropriation? It might just be...

It's like the running away from Izzy scene where she laughs about it rather than being upset. It's a complex message but if you're going to go down that line of fearing difference, I don't think showing the pony at the core of it as indifferent/amused/unbothered is helping the message.

I also hope that the diversity message is applicable beyond race, because racism is not the only diversity issue in our society right now.

On Phyllis.

Spoiler
I really want her hair to be hiding a unicorn horn. Seriously.

I really didn't like the trailer, it felt trite, boring and that running away clip really bothers me on lots of levels. But this clip felt less like that. I just think it's got some stuff to work on.

It did feel less like a G4 rip, but that may be because Izzy (Pinkie Pie) and Zipp (Rainbow Dash) didn't get any airtime.
Spoiler

My wondering is if the movie brings down Phyllis and her prejudice...where does a series go from there? If the whole series is not going to be about fighting the mistrust between species...unless it is, and Phyllis will be recurring...I don't know yet.

I also feel like diversity messages are really important but these might not go far enough to be really inclusive. We'll see. I also don't know if it's okay to have bigotry as a long term villain. That on its own could spark a following and create the wrong kind of message...depending on how it's handled and whether this angle is just for this movie and the series beyond will deal with other issues, eg climate change or whatever.
Still, at least friendship isn't magic at this point. Which is frankly a relief.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on September 21, 2021, 12:14:06 PM
On Phyllis.

Spoiler
I really want her hair to be hiding a unicorn horn. Seriously.


I was thinking this too :P
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: SunPony on September 21, 2021, 02:55:41 PM
On Phyllis.

Spoiler
I really want her hair to be hiding a unicorn horn. Seriously.


I was thinking this too :P

Spoiler
Wow, that could lead down a couple different paths...self-hate and denial to herself of her own true nature to the point where she is literally campaigning against who she is...or she accepts herself but has some other possibly-nefarious reason to do what she's doing while hiding her true form. It does seem quite possible, despite being pretty dark. Or it could be an actual beehive in there.  Only time will tell  :lol:

As far as inclusivity, I think it's a bit hard since they are ponies - what I might think of as racism is I guess technically speciesism?  Are earth and unicorns different species?  So would races be different coat colors or something among each species?  But that doesn't seem to be a thing, so I think they are trying to use the pony species as a racial stand-in.
But it's problematic because the different pony species have different abilities, unlike different human races, for the most part. We have yet to have different hair textures in any brushable toys as far as I'm aware, so that's not super-inclusive.  But if they did do that, people might complain because literal horses pretty much all have the same hair?  I would hope not...  And I'm not aware of any amputee ponies or wheelchair-using ponies of any generation, but maybe there have been in the shows but not in the toys?  I was pretty excited when they did the grandma pony in G4 who uses a walker TBH.  Non-visible disabilities or things like that seem particularly hard to depict when so many are on a spectrum, and that wouldn't really show up in a toy one way or another.  Going for inclusivity must be a challenging issue for the folks who plan the shows/toys.  I'm probably reading way too much into this compared to the target audience/toy demigraphic, who might not even relate to the ponies in that kind of way anyway, since they aren't human and are very clearly in a fantasy world.  And there are other inclusivity-type topics I doubt they will ever touch - ponies living in abject poverty or on government assistance or who are homeless, ponies who had abusive/neglectful/absent parents, etc.  All issues loads of kids deal with in real life...but I don't see them ever being shown in a cutesy, fantasy kids show like mlp. 

I've edited this post like three times and I'm editing it again to add:
A new video just went up, its the dance game scene:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU1KLQQUAkw
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on September 23, 2021, 09:59:25 AM
New official clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfeij6tjJyU


Also just a warning that the movie released in Russia today, and there are camprip's floating around and clips being released on youtube!

This was fun! I smiled at the sight of the boy pony model wearing glitter makeup :)

Has this one been shared? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqVgSR8NGjo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqVgSR8NGjo)
I'm posting this because of 00:26 => I can't help but think that this moment was created solely per Hasbro's demand, right? You just know there's going to be a toy version of that table :D

Edit: I still can't get over the fact that all these amazing ombre colors on the legs didn't make it to the toys. There are some really beautiful color combos in the Canterlogic clip!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 23, 2021, 10:36:18 AM
The house with the rose tea table reminds me a lot of the cgi Tinkerbell films.

The white and red pony with the antenna reminds me of Moondancer.

I didn't watch with the volume on.

Phyllis seems like almost every middle aged 1950s stereotype ever put on screen.

I wonder how they got whats-his- face down? I'm kinda imagining a bunch of ponies racing around with something soft, while someone else is using blow darts to pop the balloons.

There's bound to be a reason for this fear. It didn't  spring from nowhere. Perhaps a war that maybe only the oldest members of all societies were present for, that forced a separation between species?

While probably not intentional,  it was interesting that they mentioned  mind-reading unicorns, and I can only think of one who can do it. Dunno if Baby Ribbon ever inherited her mother's gift of telepathy?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: SunPony on September 23, 2021, 11:33:55 AM

There's bound to be a reason for this fear. It didn't  spring from nowhere. Perhaps a war that maybe only the oldest members of all societies were present for, that forced a separation between species?


I'm very curious about this, too!  As a cynical adult, I'm struggling to think of a kid-friendly explanation... But I'm sure there is one... Right...?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 23, 2021, 11:56:38 AM

There's bound to be a reason for this fear. It didn't  spring from nowhere. Perhaps a war that maybe only the oldest members of all societies were present for, that forced a separation between species?


I'm very curious about this, too!  As a cynical adult, I'm struggling to think of a kid-friendly explanation... But I'm sure there is one... Right...?

Hasbro doesn't shy away from war in their kid lines. Given they made Transformers and GI Joe.  They may tone it down, but you know.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Dragonflitter on September 23, 2021, 12:05:47 PM
I think you guys are putting too much thought into the plot. I get the feeling that this movie is aimed at younger kids compared to the demographic for FiM, which was for a bit older kids and had more complex stories.

I think all the pony species split up and live separately now solely because they wanted a "main character brings everyone together" plotline, and in FiM they put enough emphasis on the three different types of ponies that it was logical for a movie follow-up to treat them as entirely different species that live apart.

I would be surprised if we even get a thoughtful explanation on why it happened. If anything, I'll bet it's going to be similar to the FiM Harthswarming Eve episode, where it happened because the three species began arguing and not working together, and then it just got worse.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 23, 2021, 12:08:19 PM
I think you guys are putting too much thought into the plot. I get the feeling that this movie is aimed at younger kids compared to the demographic for FiM, which was for a bit older kids and had more complex stories.

I think all the pony species split up and live separately now solely because they wanted a "main character brings everyone together" plotline, and in FiM they put enough emphasis on the three different types of ponies that it was logical for a movie follow-up to treat them as entirely different species that live apart.

I would be surprised if we even get a thoughtful explanation on why it happened. If anything, I'll bet it's going to be similar to the FiM Harthswarming Eve episode, where it happened because the three species began arguing and not working together, and then it just got worse.


Perhaps we are. And Hasbro can't do thoughtful handling, if their life depended on it.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Dragonflitter on September 23, 2021, 12:10:24 PM

Spoiler
Hitch brought a crab and seagulls to his job where he is maintaining order at an event for...possibly-fascist-themed wearable technology.  Not a sentence I expected to ever type until very recently!


Heh heh, okay this is cute, I read in one of the new MLP books that...

Spoiler
small animals always follow Hitch around because he's protective of them XD haha maybe he's the Fluttershy equivalent in this series!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on September 23, 2021, 12:14:17 PM
I think you guys are putting too much thought into the plot. I get the feeling that this movie is aimed at younger kids compared to the demographic for FiM, which was for a bit older kids and had more complex stories.

I think all the pony species split up and live separately now solely because they wanted a "main character brings everyone together" plotline, and in FiM they put enough emphasis on the three different types of ponies that it was logical for a movie follow-up to treat them as entirely different species that live apart.

I would be surprised if we even get a thoughtful explanation on why it happened. If anything, I'll bet it's going to be similar to the FiM Harthswarming Eve episode, where it happened because the three species began arguing and not working together, and then it just got worse.

While that's certainly the case for the movie's plot, if this turns into a full fledged show they'll have to come up with deeper storylines eventually. It might get fleshed out later on; there's only so much you can do with slice of life. The massive time jump allows for all kinds of yet to explore opportunities.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: Taffeta on September 23, 2021, 01:55:23 PM
I think you guys are putting too much thought into the plot. I get the feeling that this movie is aimed at younger kids compared to the demographic for FiM, which was for a bit older kids and had more complex stories.

I think all the pony species split up and live separately now solely because they wanted a "main character brings everyone together" plotline, and in FiM they put enough emphasis on the three different types of ponies that it was logical for a movie follow-up to treat them as entirely different species that live apart.

I would be surprised if we even get a thoughtful explanation on why it happened. If anything, I'll bet it's going to be similar to the FiM Harthswarming Eve episode, where it happened because the three species began arguing and not working together, and then it just got worse.

While that's certainly the case for the movie's plot, if this turns into a full fledged show they'll have to come up with deeper storylines eventually. It might get fleshed out later on; there's only so much you can do with slice of life. The massive time jump allows for all kinds of yet to explore opportunities.

If this is the case, it's a little more worrying that they're delving into deeper issues in a superficial kind of a way. Again that running away from the different kid scene is exactly the kind of thing that could happen to a kid in the playground - the fact Izzy thinks it's funny/is ok with it means kids might think it's funny, rather than conveying a deeper message.

I don't know what FIM's target audience started out as (ignoring the brony pandering later on) but I can't imagine G5 has an older audience target than G1 did, mind you. G1 did have some heavy stuff going on in the plots so maybe it's not that big a deal. I just think that because these are currently very active issues, and there are some very...adult ideas (by which I mean sensitive and controversial, not xrated!) going on in this. Like Phyllis's rally, which as I said, seems weirdly political.

There is the argument that Monsters Inc had the characters terrified of humans, so there is a precedent. I just wonder...whether if the age target is lower, if they're handling these issues in a comprehensive and unambiguous enough way to not cause serious confusion. Associating discrimination/segregation with humour and slapstick is potentially a risk if the age target is lower?

I never thought about the unicorns and mind-reading stuff. I don't remember any of the ponies being able to mind-read in the comics, so I assumed it was just fake news for fear mongering, rather than founded in any kind of reality. Ribbon is the only one in the movies. I think maybe Majesty in the comics conveyed ideas through song and her magic to other ponies far from wherever she was...but mindreading doesn't seem to be a common pony trait.

It's probably a bigger question whether any of the FIM unicorns could do it, bearing in mind that this is still Equestria.

BTW, am I imagining it or is there not a tale somewhere in FIM of unicorns, earths and pegasi being segregated and ponies being mutually suspicious? Did I dream that or did it happen? Bear in mind I've only seen some of FIM and no episode more than once, so I may just be inventing this. But it just feels like this theme is really...familiar...to Equestria somehow.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: Flitter on September 23, 2021, 06:21:07 PM
BTW, am I imagining it or is there not a tale somewhere in FIM of unicorns, earths and pegasi being segregated and ponies being mutually suspicious? Did I dream that or did it happen? Bear in mind I've only seen some of FIM and no episode more than once, so I may just be inventing this. But it just feels like this theme is really...familiar...to Equestria somehow.
No, you're right. In the Hearth's Warming Eve episode, the Windigos arise from the animosity and quarreling between the Unicorns, Pegasi and Earth Ponies and the "Fire of Friendship" drives them off.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: Ragamuffin on September 23, 2021, 06:33:56 PM

BTW, am I imagining it or is there not a tale somewhere in FIM of unicorns, earths and pegasi being segregated and ponies being mutually suspicious? Did I dream that or did it happen? Bear in mind I've only seen some of FIM and no episode more than once, so I may just be inventing this. But it just feels like this theme is really...familiar...to Equestria somehow.

The first Christmas special "Hearth's Warming Eve" talked about ancient Equestria history, a tale based off of it or something? I haven't watched this episode since it aired in 2011 so I don't remember exactly what happened. :lol: But yes, the ponies were once separated by species, but then their leaders got stuck together in a cave and they suddenly became friends...? And that's the TRUE meaning of Christmas
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: SunPony on September 23, 2021, 07:06:40 PM
Re: audience age, the g5 movie is rated PG, right?  So it shouldn't be intended for really little kids?  Or am I wrong? What was the first iteration of G4 rated?  I don't remember if it was a movie or a show to start with...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: Dragonflitter on September 23, 2021, 07:34:13 PM
If this is the case, it's a little more worrying that they're delving into deeper issues in a superficial kind of a way. Again that running away from the different kid scene is exactly the kind of thing that could happen to a kid in the playground - the fact Izzy thinks it's funny/is ok with it means kids might think it's funny, rather than conveying a deeper message.

Have you seen many modern cartoons aimed at kids? There is a lot of stuff in cartoons these days that some would consider inappropriate for children. Especially on Netflix and other streaming services. They have even looser guidelines on what is appropriate, compared to stuff that is shown on TV.

I just finished watching a cartoon on Netflix based on the Jurassic Park movies. In this cartoon, a T-rex eats an adult human right in front of a group of kids, and they even show it on-screen. The cartoon is rated PG and under that is says "suitable for children under 12, but may frighten younger viewers."

Another popular Netflix cartoon is called "The Last Kids on Earth." It's about kids surviving on their own during a zombie apocalypse. There's even action figures and playsets made for this show. The age range is listed as "8 and up." The main character is an adopted kid whose family just left town and left him behind when the apocalypse happens.

I'm not saying there's going to be "dinosaurs and zombies levels of violence" in the MLP movie, but I'm saying people who are making content for kids today aren't that concerned with what is appropriate for them to view or not. When they show a scene of earth ponies running away from Izzy, they're not thinking "Oh no this scene might send the wrong message to kids;" they're thinking "Oh this scene will be a good illustration of how all the pony species are afraid of each other, which shows why Sunny is needed in their world."

The English lyrics of "Fit Right In" include the line sang by Izzy about the pegasi: "You're vicious, I'll bet you eat your young." She's repeating unicorn rumors, not something she actually believes, but nonetheless it's a pretty head-scratching line for a show about colorful ponies.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: Snapdragon on September 24, 2021, 12:57:14 AM
So uh, it didn’t come out at midnight PST, right? Because it’s not up yet for me. (I’m now seeing some people were able to get it to load! I guess I have the janky version of Netflix. 🤣 If anyone else is having the same issue, I fixed it by switching user accounts!)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on September 24, 2021, 05:54:17 AM
Watching it RIGHT NOW! 20 minutes in, and I had to pause it to give a first impression. I certainly didn't expect that opening scene, and overall it looks beyond amazing! When the light hits the ponies from behind, there's that realistic subtle transparency to the ears even. The attention to detail is amazing. Story: bit rushed though. Still, I was very much on the fence about this, but so far so good (or at least, entertaining!). Also, I don't know what's cuter; the ponies or the lil' critters.
I'm at the part where Izzy arrives in Maretown Bay. Back to the movie now :D

Opening scene spoiler:
Spoiler
It's Twilight Sparkle and the rest of the mane 6 in a cute artsy animated style

EDIT: G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 G1 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! You can't blink though, but OH MY how awesome!!!

G1 spoiler:
Spoiler
An ad for the G1 series, Ghost of Paradise Estate screenshots 'n all, plays on televisions in the background. It's on sale apparently, 20% off LOL
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: ridi on September 24, 2021, 06:45:59 AM
Should we make a new thread for reviewing the movie, or keep it to this thread?

My spoiler free review: I just watched it and thought it was a decent enough children's adventure movie. I just really wish they'd cut the ties to G4/G3 already and make it its own entirely new universe. I didn't hate it, the characters and songs were very cute, but it's not really My Little Pony to me personally.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 24, 2021, 07:14:02 AM
Re: audience age, the g5 movie is rated PG, right?  So it shouldn't be intended for really little kids?  Or am I wrong? What was the first iteration of G4 rated?  I don't remember if it was a movie or a show to start with...


PG is nothing, especially these days. There are plenty of kid's films that have been PG for ages. 
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: SunPony on September 24, 2021, 07:28:06 AM
Re: audience age, the g5 movie is rated PG, right?  So it shouldn't be intended for really little kids?  Or am I wrong? What was the first iteration of G4 rated?  I don't remember if it was a movie or a show to start with...


PG is nothing, especially these days. There are plenty of kid's films that have been PG for ages.

Ah ha!  I'm pretty out of touch with the rating system these days - since I don't have kids I never really look at it.  So I appreciate the input
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Carrehz on September 24, 2021, 07:35:35 AM
Yeah, for some reason, these days most stuff seems to be rated PG and the G rating (or U here in the UK) is more of a "little kids" rating than the "suitable for everyone" rating it used to be.


Spoiler
Hitch brought a crab and seagulls to his job where he is maintaining order at an event for...possibly-fascist-themed wearable technology.  Not a sentence I expected to ever type until very recently!


Heh heh, okay this is cute, I read in one of the new MLP books that...

Spoiler
small animals always follow Hitch around because he's protective of them XD haha maybe he's the Fluttershy equivalent in this series!

Omg cute!! ;o;

Spoiler
The G1 reference sounds interesting. Wasn't expecting anything like that.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on September 24, 2021, 08:05:54 AM
I finally finished it. It's an okay kids movie, and that's what it was supposed to be I guess. But it's not something I'd want to spend the price of a theatre ticket on.
It started out really promising but fizzled out in the middle and doesn't recover IMO. Like I said in a long ago post, they took the most iconic elements from FiM and smushed them all together.

Storywise: so many unaddressed elements that the target audience will I'm sure completely overlook, but the die hard fans (who they are also trying to appease to) are going to be left hanging with - without the assurance that they will be answered.

Lastly, n most importantly for me; when did breathing moments in movies go out of style??? Please, someone tell me, because I clearly missed it.

And lastly lastly, for real this time: the 80s MLP movie (which I rewatch regularly) was nothing more than a straightforward story/toy promo as well, just like this one. Why is it so much more digestible than this movie, though?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: Dragonflitter on September 24, 2021, 08:18:21 AM
Just finished watching! Still digesting, so I have to formulate my thoughts for a full review... I agree it was a perfectly serviceable movie for kids. I don't think there's much that adults will get from watching it.

First and foremost, though... Did anyone else notice that all the ponies only have a cutie mark on ONE SIDE!? What in the world!? That makes no sense. I guess they wanted the new MLP generation to match the toy line? But that was never an issue with the animation for G3 or G4... I don't understand it. It makes them look so weird.

(Come to think of it... If the plot of the movie is that magic is completely gone from the land, why do the ponies even have cutie marks at all...?)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on September 24, 2021, 08:22:47 AM
First and foremost, though... Did anyone else notice that all the ponies only have a cutie mark on ONE SIDE!?

Yep. Not only that, they are also sooo tiny that it looks like they are of no importance at all anymore.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: Wardah on September 24, 2021, 08:38:22 AM
First and foremost, though... Did anyone else notice that all the ponies only have a cutie mark on ONE SIDE!? What in the world!? That makes no sense. I guess they wanted the new MLP generation to match the toy line? But that was never an issue with the animation for G3 or G4... I don't understand it. It makes them look so weird.

I assume that the only reason G3 and G4 had them on both sides in the cartoon was so there wouldn't be animation errors with ponies having them on the wrong side. Now that they've moved to CG those kind of errors wouldn't occur anymore so that can finally have the animation match the toys?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: sunshinedim on September 24, 2021, 09:33:28 AM
I assumed that in g3 and g4, the ponies were supposed to canonically have cutie marks on both sides but they didn't do that on the toys because it would have been more expensive.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: Lilja on September 24, 2021, 10:36:17 AM
It was a good watch! Some great music, environments and atmosphere. Rather weak "villain" and any possible allusions to real life societal issues seemed rather confused in what they were trying to say. Similar to Disney movies for better or worse, it felt very much like a carefully engineered product (but this is what MLP always has been, you just notice this more as an adult).

Got the feeling that a big part of the plot was formed while they were still considering using the revamped mane 6 concepts with swapped species. What happened to Sunny at the end would've made a lot of sense for an earth pony Twilight. And it's interesting the unicorns live in a very nature-based society in a forest, since concept Fluttershy was a unicorn. Izzy's introductory scene would probably also have been funnier if it was a pony with Fluttershy's personality.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: NanoRuby on September 24, 2021, 11:19:38 AM
Just saw the movie. I thought it was very cute! It was nothing spectacular, but I mean. Did it really need to be?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 24, 2021, 11:26:10 AM
Yeah, for some reason, these days most stuff seems to be rated PG and the G rating (or U here in the UK) is more of a "little kids" rating than the "suitable for everyone" rating it used to be.


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Hitch brought a crab and seagulls to his job where he is maintaining order at an event for...possibly-fascist-themed wearable technology.  Not a sentence I expected to ever type until very recently!


Heh heh, okay this is cute, I read in one of the new MLP books that...

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small animals always follow Hitch around because he's protective of them XD haha maybe he's the Fluttershy equivalent in this series!

Omg cute!! ;o;

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The G1 reference sounds interesting. Wasn't expecting anything like that.


Well even back then, it wasn't a big deal. You could argue that some of Don Bluth's oldest films like Land Before Time, All Dogs Go to Heaven and Secret of NIMH would be more worthy of a PG rating in this day and age due to frightening imagery, animal experimentation, smoking, drinking,  and character deaths. (And helicopter parents.)

Kids today play GTA and watch violent,  gory anime.  Not that we were much better with our JAWS, and Mortal Kombat and Terminator. 


I'd like to see the G1 reference.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: bladed on September 24, 2021, 11:41:21 AM
Yeah, for some reason, these days most stuff seems to be rated PG and the G rating (or U here in the UK) is more of a "little kids" rating than the "suitable for everyone" rating it used to be.


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Hitch brought a crab and seagulls to his job where he is maintaining order at an event for...possibly-fascist-themed wearable technology.  Not a sentence I expected to ever type until very recently!


Heh heh, okay this is cute, I read in one of the new MLP books that...

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small animals always follow Hitch around because he's protective of them XD haha maybe he's the Fluttershy equivalent in this series!

Omg cute!! ;o;

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The G1 reference sounds interesting. Wasn't expecting anything like that.


Well even back then, it wasn't a big deal. You could argue that some of Don Bluth's oldest films like Land Before Time, All Dogs Go to Heaven and Secret of NIMH would be more worthy of a PG rating in this day and age due to frightening imagery, animal experimentation, smoking, drinking,  and character deaths. (And helicopter parents.)

Kids today play GTA and watch violent,  gory anime.  Not that we were much better with our JAWS, and Mortal Kombat and Terminator. 


I'd like to see the G1 reference.
it's a split second frame in one of the songs -
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before it gets replaced with propaganda
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funny that they use a scene with unicorns in the earth pony city
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: Luxrayx on September 24, 2021, 11:50:13 AM
Got the feeling that a big part of the plot was formed while they were still considering using the revamped mane 6 concepts with swapped species. What happened to Sunny at the end would've made a lot of sense for an earth pony Twilight. And it's interesting the unicorns live in a very nature-based society in a forest, since concept Fluttershy was a unicorn. Izzy's introductory scene would probably also have been funnier if it was a pony with Fluttershy's personality.
Huh, you're right. I guess I didn't notice because the new cast is so mellow compared to the mane 6. Like Izzy actually has some emotional awareness, so there's no way she could be Pinkie Pie! :lol: but I REALLY like Zipp as a more humble version of Rainbow Dash, she's kinda like Firefly in that way.

I also liked the "unicycling" bit. You just know this is Hasbro pushing DIY for kids :P child me would've LOVED that... well not when they call it unicycling, because unicorns are for girls and girl stuff is icky.

...still would've tried to replicate that bottle music box, though XD
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie comes out 3 AM EDT on the 24th!
Post by: LadyAmalthea on September 24, 2021, 01:34:51 PM
Oh man...I am trying to actively NOT reading any comments regarding the movie, since I am banned from watching it without my son, who is on a camping trip this weekend. But it's so hard not to cheat... :pout:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 24, 2021, 01:47:24 PM
Thoughts as someone who has been following all news and story plot leaks:
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Really cute overall! The animation was very enjoyable and the humor was pretty spot-on.

The film would have benefited from some extra time. There's a movie book which had details such as "Sunny sees her Dad's picture is in ruins and tears up" and we just found a storyboard which has Pipp being nice/less obviously phoney influencer etc horse which would have done wonders to help characterize her as someone the audience should care about or root for.

Pipp's prevalance in merchandise makes sense because she's pink, but Zipp got way more focus. Pipp had less focus than Hitch, even. I hope the Special and series will flesh out her a bit more.

The ending 100% sets up Earth pony magic as a focus for the special.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, updated 9/15, Korean Version of Fit Right In!
Post by: Carrehz on September 24, 2021, 05:41:38 PM
Yeah, for some reason, these days most stuff seems to be rated PG and the G rating (or U here in the UK) is more of a "little kids" rating than the "suitable for everyone" rating it used to be.


Spoiler
Hitch brought a crab and seagulls to his job where he is maintaining order at an event for...possibly-fascist-themed wearable technology.  Not a sentence I expected to ever type until very recently!


Heh heh, okay this is cute, I read in one of the new MLP books that...

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small animals always follow Hitch around because he's protective of them XD haha maybe he's the Fluttershy equivalent in this series!

Omg cute!! ;o;

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The G1 reference sounds interesting. Wasn't expecting anything like that.


Well even back then, it wasn't a big deal. You could argue that some of Don Bluth's oldest films like Land Before Time, All Dogs Go to Heaven and Secret of NIMH would be more worthy of a PG rating in this day and age due to frightening imagery, animal experimentation, smoking, drinking,  and character deaths. (And helicopter parents.)

Kids today play GTA and watch violent,  gory anime.  Not that we were much better with our JAWS, and Mortal Kombat and Terminator. 


I'd like to see the G1 reference.

Dunno if it's true, but I heard they actually were going for a PG with Secret of NIMH but didn't get it for some reason. I agree the ratings were pretty loosely-defined even back then, too.. I think they started off kinda loose, became more defined, then went back to loose.

Probably went a bit off-topic there, sorry. Back on-topic..

Thanks for the screenshot Bladed! :D
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Dragonflitter on September 24, 2021, 07:02:20 PM
First and foremost, though... Did anyone else notice that all the ponies only have a cutie mark on ONE SIDE!? What in the world!? That makes no sense. I guess they wanted the new MLP generation to match the toy line? But that was never an issue with the animation for G3 or G4... I don't understand it. It makes them look so weird.

I assume that the only reason G3 and G4 had them on both sides in the cartoon was so there wouldn't be animation errors with ponies having them on the wrong side. Now that they've moved to CG those kind of errors wouldn't occur anymore so that can finally have the animation match the toys?

Ohhhh that actually makes a heck of a lot of sense! Wow, good thinking!

Still, the cutie marks are barely there, they're small and don't have a solid outline or anything to make them stand out from the body color of the pony. I still say it would have made more sense if...

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They should have just left the cutie marks off altogether and then they could have magically appeared when the magic returned to the land at the climax. Then Earth ponies could have gotten something too, along with the flight for the pegasi and the magic for the unicorns.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Bekuno on September 24, 2021, 07:53:52 PM
Ohhhh that actually makes a heck of a lot of sense! Wow, good thinking!

Still, the cutie marks are barely there, they're small and don't have a solid outline or anything to make them stand out from the body color of the pony. I still say it would have made more sense if...

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They should have just left the cutie marks off altogether and then they could have magically appeared when the magic returned to the land at the climax. Then Earth ponies could have gotten something too, along with the flight for the pegasi and the magic for the unicorns.

See, until we got the first trailer I was like... so certain that was a plot point?? Like fully convinced, but I have no idea where I heard it at. I remember telling people that multiple times too. It would just make sense to me tbh.

Anyway, I super duper loved the movie and will be watching it multiple times lmao
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: lowpolyzoe on September 25, 2021, 04:53:23 AM
Just watched the movie!! I actually quite liked it a lot and I quite liked how all the characters talk... normally, almost? They talk more like people than characters at least in comparison to G4 and it feels quite nice. The pacing feels a bit rushed and the interesting parts kind of peter off around the middle I think, and I just don't really like the songs much either. They kind of seemed flat and the "climax" of the movie is very by the numbers. I did like it though I doubt I'll be watching it all the way through again unless I need reference for fanfic, etc.

I think my favourite character was Izzy followed by Zipp though I kind of found Pipp a bit annoying, which is unfortunate because I really did want to like her. I forget if we're getting a web series or TV show for G5 soon or if it's just going to be the movie for a while, but I'd like to see more of these characters soon. Especially Pipp though because I'd like to see her get more time to shine maybe when she isn't necessarily having to do influencer things

[Movie spoilers, FiM spoilers, talking about the magic situation in the movie, and questions about what I'd like to see answered by future G5 media regarding some of the fantasy elements of FiM and the legacies of the characters]
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It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine but "magical pegasi" make me annoyed in the sense of not being able to fly if they're not powered up by magic. I know that was a thing in G4 too but... it's not like their wings disappear. They're just kind of winged horsies they don't need to have an extra magic spark to fly. Also they kind of forgot that earth ponies have a sort of subtle invisible magic almost giving them a connection to the land, which the world of G5 being more industrialized than G4 Equestria makes me wonder if they could have retconned it somewhat in order to give earth ponies a sort of folk magic. If the G4 unicorns have magic down to  a science, the pegasi need magic to fly, the earth ponies should have a little bit of fun magic too.

I was going to write a whole thousand word ramble about the connections with G4 but I've just summed up my questions I hope are answered in bulletpoints instead. I really like the fantasy world elements of G4 a whole lot and I'd hope they carry over to G5. Though because they're keeping G5 set in Equestria:

-How old was the Zephyr Heights station Zipp shows Sunny and Izzy? The Wonderbolt poster and the posters advertising the various settlements didn't look extremely old which makes me wonder, has it been closer to 100 years or 1000 years since Twilight becomes the ruler of Equestria?

-How long was Twilight's reign? Is the sudden segregation of the pony species related to her somehow? She doesn't seem to be around anymore, so did she disappear or did she pass away somehow?

-Are Celestia and Luna remembered in any capacity outside of history buffs? Argyle seems to have a couple old murals of them around and Sunny has Celestia's cutie mark hanging in her room. Do they just remember that once upon a time there was a pony who lived for more than a thousand years and controlled the sun (also her sister) but they're just kind of gone now? I feel like that's a potentially terrifying concept for the ponies of G5

-What happened to Princess Cadence, Flurry Heart, and the Crystal Ponies? I suppose the Crystal Empire would be isolated given it's surrounded by a looooot of snow but that makes me wonder if the Crystal Ponies, Cadance and Flurry Heart are still kicking around up there separated from the rest of Equestria.

-Is the Tree of Harmony still around? If so, is it still increasingly and scarily sentient? Towards the end of G4 it kind of develops sentience and begins projecting itself as Twilight and forcing some random kids to do a life-or-death trial in order to figure out if "friendship is in their nature", but I wonder if that could have been the origin of the unicorn/earth pony/pegasi crystals that are apparently required to spontaneously create an alicorn and release magic back into the land. I kind of wish the crystals were symbolic rather than actual magical mcguffins though tbh.

-Where did the other magical creature species around Equestria go? The end of G4 has griffons, yaks, hippogriffs, dragons, and changelings becoming integrated into pony society and it suggests that's going to be a continuing trend, but they're gone by G5. Ultimately I understand the series is pony-based thereby all the main characters should be ponies, but from an inuniverse perspective and it makes sense for them to be the first to go if pony society was segregating itself for whatever reason. I guess it'd just be interesting to see where they went? I guess the changelings could still be around ;)

Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Dragonflitter on September 25, 2021, 09:36:20 AM
LOL my friend just watched it and I asked what she thought and she said "So they spoiled the ending with that toy?"

I was like "It's hard to keep secrets when you're a giant corporation that wants to make a ton of money." XD
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Ponyfan on September 25, 2021, 10:42:32 AM
I haven't seen the movie yet but I will probably watch it at some point. 

I like MLP scenes on the TV screens.  It looks like they used clips from "Ghost of Paradise Estate"?


The soundtrack is on iTunes. 

Ponyfan
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: MJNSEIFER on September 25, 2021, 01:48:54 PM
Just watched it, and I loved it.  Friendship is definitely still magic, just like it was as far back as G1 - in other words, this is My Little Pony!

Note: I might do a more detailed opinion one day, but if it isn't here, it will appear at some point on my Animation Review Show on YouTube at some point (I'll either start that show later this year or next year.)

But yeah... cutie marks, or whatever you prefer to call them are  always on both sides to me.

EDIT: OMG, I missed the G1 reference, that's awesome!  I love how they included the 20% G4 thing during that part if they did - nostalgia overload!

Speaking of nostalgia, this is definitely going on my list of 2021 nostalgia!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: The_Loner on September 25, 2021, 02:18:07 PM
On the Cutie Mark topic:

I have gotten myself a whole new theory about why ponies only have it on one side these days. That began with G3 and the term Cutie Mark also got introduced with G3. The term Cutie Mark may be a play on the word beauty mark. A beauty mark is a single mark on your body, not something that occur symmetrically on your body. I think Hasbro's idea was that the body marking with the introduction of G3 was supposed to be like a beauty mark and therefore only be on one side of the body and they have stuck with that idea.
As to why the ponies still had them on both sides in the cartoons was maybe because that was easier in the animation instead of having to keep track of which side it should go on as someone already said, and now that it's CG animation that is no longer an issue and therefore the single sided body marking has now been implemented in the cartoons.

Personally I do not like this :( I really wish Hasbro would ditch that Cutie Mark thing and return to the original two sided body markings!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: MJNSEIFER on September 25, 2021, 02:43:44 PM
I get what you're saying, but on the cartoons at least (both G3 and G4) cutie marks are on both sides, but then, the toys come first, so... I dunno.

Like I say, they're on both sides in my headcanon.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Gator on September 25, 2021, 06:31:07 PM
I've been hating the look of the toys, but I liked the movie.  It surprised me.  Izzy was my favorite character.  She's like a toned down, easier to digest Pinkie Pie.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: AvianWing on September 25, 2021, 07:55:07 PM
I have to say I liked it a lot more than I thought I would! I was honestly expecting it to just be "fine" but I was pleasantly surprised.

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I will say that I found the ending to be a little strange though, it felt kind of rushed and rather different from the rest of the movie, not in a good way. The idea of it wasn't bad (if a little cheesy), but I didn't find the execution of it to be that great. And I was... really hoping they wouldn't go the angle of alicorn Sunny... Still, a very enjoyable movie it was!

Also...

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Mayonnaise.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: starrynights on September 25, 2021, 09:21:22 PM
Just watched it.
All I have to say is the following:
Wut.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 25, 2021, 09:24:34 PM
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Can we get magical royalty that isn't unipegs and unicorns again?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Goanna on September 25, 2021, 10:23:27 PM
I watched it this morning and really enjoyed it :D Sure it wasn't perfect, and the plot was a little strange lol but I found all the characters really likeable and I'm looking forward to seeing more of them!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 25, 2021, 10:36:26 PM
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Background easter egg in Sunny's house!

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I really enjoyed the movie--though I think the G4 movie had better songs.  That said, the mob song was a bop. 

What is this?  Corn on the cob.  Who's this guy?  My name's Rob.  *ponies commence headbanging*
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: ridi on September 26, 2021, 02:24:13 AM
About the ending...

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Was Sunny's upgrade supposed to be permanent? I just kinda assumed it would be a temporary power-up. If it's permanent, I would have expected a lot more winged and horned Sunny toys. What will she look like in the show?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on September 26, 2021, 04:32:08 AM
Man I wish I had Netflix, but I don't so I'm going to be one of the few who doesn't get to see this until later.

How long is the movie anyway? An hour and some odd minutes?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: LadyMoondancer on September 26, 2021, 05:38:04 AM
About an hour and a half
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Sweet Stuff on September 26, 2021, 05:55:26 AM
I really enjoyed it, I find these characters to be very likable and less in your face compared to G4 however:

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ALICORN SUNNY. NO. I did not like when they did this with Twilight and I was enjoying an Earth pony getting some real good recognition. I really hope it's not permanent. Ending aside, the rest of the movie was fun and I liked the songs.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Koudoawaia on September 26, 2021, 06:23:05 AM
Watched the movie with my husband last night and we loved it. I can't decide who my favorite character is yet. But great story, loved the soundtrack and many enjoyable characters and character designs.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Carrehz on September 26, 2021, 06:37:31 AM
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Background easter egg in Sunny's house!

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I really enjoyed the movie--though I think the G4 movie had better songs.  That said, the mob song was a bop. 

What is this?  Corn on the cob.  Who's this guy?  My name's Rob.  *ponies commence headbanging*

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pfff how typical, G2 finally gets a shout-out and it's mostly covered up x)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: saevitia on September 26, 2021, 12:52:54 PM
I just finished watching it and honestly, I loved it. I think it's my favorite MLP animated content since the end of Gen 1 stuff.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on September 26, 2021, 01:12:02 PM
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Mayonnaise.

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Bing Bong! Bing Bong!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Shaiyeh on September 26, 2021, 01:48:32 PM
watched the movie absolutely loved it. I'm soppy, I cried all the way through.
izzy is perfect, I love her. I was worried about Zipp being RD 2.0, but she's got some depth to her personality compared, imo. ack. I want to watch it again. i just wish the pics of Zipp for toy packaging etc wasn't the most smug face. it doesn't suit the character that well ^^'

Leave a Whisper -
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we've always had unicorn royalty tho? I mean, Majesty in g1... but. I agree, I also hope it's not permanent tbh. it would be unnecessary. We'll see what the series says. maybe it'll just be a special magic power for certain occasions?
Also, I take it as "not as big of a deal" since noone went 'omg sunny you have WINGS' . + majority so far of Sunny toys are earth ponies, bar the RC rollerskating one. but yeah. guess we'll see what happens with that ^^'
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: StarSwirl05 on September 26, 2021, 01:53:07 PM
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Wasn't really impressed to be honest. Was left with more questions than answers when it was all done like why Sunny was just arbitrarily made an alacorn out of the blue. There was also no indication of time passage between when Sunny was young and when she was older. It just happened. I also don't understand how Izzy cut the tree down. We never see her up close. One second she's shown a distance away from the others and the next the tree's been cut down. Songs were mediocre too. It seems a few bad eggs poisoned the minds of what seemed to be gullible residents in each location. It's like the G3 era except everything has literally been dumbed down. Half the movie was also spent gathering things that in the end didn't even matter. Honestly this didn't seem any better than the 2017 movie was.  :huh:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Shaiyeh on September 26, 2021, 02:08:04 PM
StarSwirl -
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I feel like -childhood scene - going to bed - waking up adult is a pretty common movie thing.my hubby didn't instantly recognize time had passed either, so I get where yu're coming from with that. it'd been easier to recognize if she'd had a different hairstyle as a kid or something :)

When Izzy cut the tree down there were woodpecker noises in the background. Like, she cut it down with her horn. they were fairly easy to miss, tho, so they could've made that clearer/louder :)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Pinkie21 on September 26, 2021, 03:03:24 PM
I am liking this generation so much more than G4.  This movie sold me, for real.  I got *so* tired of Pinkie Pie in G4 after a while, but I feel like a few years of Izzy will be great if they keep her the way she was in the movie and don't give her more energy.  I was also impressed with how much I enjoyed Zipp. 
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And honestly, I found myself enjoying the villain, too LOL.  He was just...so ridiculous, I loved it.  I also enjoyed the music so much more than the G4 music.  I thought I'd get sick of the pop songs, but I found myself listening to them over and over.  Even "Glowin' Up", which I didn't like at first.  But man that is an ear worm for me.  However, "Fit Right In" is my jam!  That scene is so perfect in my eyes.  When Izzy, Sunny, and Pipp start dancing together, I melted.  I think my only "gripe" is that I wish it was just a *little* bit longer?  I wanted to learn more about Pipp, since she ended up being kinda the least focused pony in the movie.  Not sure why she's getting all the merch when Zipp is the main pegasus, but I guess "pink pop pony sells".  I hope we learn more about the other ponies in the movie, too.  I *really* wanna learn about Queen Haven.  She fascinates me.  I'd also love to see some flashbacks of Izzy finding that letter that Sunny set as a filly.  It was a ridiculous coincidence, but even so, my heart melted.  Ugh I just loved the movie so much and I can't wait to see more of those ponies![/spoilers]
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: DreamsofUnicorn on September 26, 2021, 03:15:12 PM
I am liking this generation so much more than G4.  This movie sold me, for real.  I got *so* tired of Pinkie Pie in G4 after a while, but I feel like a few years of Izzy will be great if they keep her the way she was in the movie and don't give her more energy.  I was also impressed with how much I enjoyed Zipp. 
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And honestly, I found myself enjoying the villain, too LOL.  He was just...so ridiculous, I loved it.  I also enjoyed the music so much more than the G4 music.  I thought I'd get sick of the pop songs, but I found myself listening to them over and over.  Even "Glowin' Up", which I didn't like at first.  But man that is an ear worm for me.  However, "Fit Right In" is my jam!  That scene is so perfect in my eyes.  When Izzy, Sunny, and Pipp start dancing together, I melted.  I think my only "gripe" is that I wish it was just a *little* bit longer?  I wanted to learn more about Pipp, since she ended up being kinda the least focused pony in the movie.  Not sure why she's getting all the merch when Zipp is the main pegasus, but I guess "pink pop pony sells".  I hope we learn more about the other ponies in the movie, too.  I *really* wanna learn about Queen Haven.  She fascinates me.  I'd also love to see some flashbacks of Izzy finding that letter that Sunny set as a filly.  It was a ridiculous coincidence, but even so, my heart melted.  Ugh I just loved the movie so much and I can't wait to see more of those ponies![/spoilers]
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smol Izzy would be soo cute omg
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: BethyVic on September 26, 2021, 04:44:35 PM
I enjoyed the movie very much.  I teared up a few times.  My parents liked it as well.  I gave them both a pony to hold from the new line.  My dad had Hitch but then wanted to trade for a different one once the movie started. I’m happy with the new characters and their voices and personalities.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 26, 2021, 05:21:48 PM
watched the movie absolutely loved it. I'm soppy, I cried all the way through.
izzy is perfect, I love her. I was worried about Zipp being RD 2.0, but she's got some depth to her personality compared, imo. ack. I want to watch it again. i just wish the pics of Zipp for toy packaging etc wasn't the most smug face. it doesn't suit the character that well ^^'

Leave a Whisper -
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we've always had unicorn royalty tho? I mean, Majesty in g1... but. I agree, I also hope it's not permanent tbh. it would be unnecessary. We'll see what the series says. maybe it'll just be a special magic power for certain occasions?
Also, I take it as "not as big of a deal" since noone went 'omg sunny you have WINGS' . + majority so far of Sunny toys are earth ponies, bar the RC rollerskating one. but yeah. guess we'll see what happens with that ^^'

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I know. I meant the earth ponies and pegasus as well. I'd like to see magical royalty distributed across all known species, is all I'm saying. Not just unipegs and the occasional unicorn.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Ragamuffin on September 26, 2021, 06:05:48 PM
Guess I haven't shared my thoughts yet. :P

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I liked it better than the G4 movie.

The characters were more mature and likeable, they're very distinct but they feel like they would have chemistry. G4 only had the one trait per character and as a result the ponies didn't seem to mesh well together. They're supposedly "best friends forever" and even the GUARDIANS of the concept of "Friendship" yet none of them really have chemistry with each other. They just "hang out" because plot demands or they're paired up together for the sake of missions. How often do the Mane 6 hang out together, just as friends? Realistically, why would someone like Rarity hang out with someone like Rainbow Dash? Why should I believe that they're inseparable best friends until the day they die? The Mane 5 could get along with each other, either one-on-one or as a larger group.

Haven was my favourite character because vain characters tend to be my favourite. :lol: It's too bad Pipp didn't get more screentime. She was so superficial and "influencer"-y in the movie. Maybe not a good character for kids to look up to, but a fun one to watch. :biggrin:

The music I liked better in New Generation too. The G4 movie music sounded very samey, when I saw the movie in theatre I wasn't impressed by any of it except "One Small Thing" which seems to be an unpopular opinion, because that song seems to be the least popular when it comes to Youtube views. The opening song and "Time to be Awesome" sound the same, I don't remember anything from Capper's song, "Open Up Your Eyes" is overhyped. I think people just like it because of "ooh it's a villain song, just like how Disney used to do!", the singing is fine and all and I don't remember having issues with the lyrics but the instrumentals are lacking. I don't feel intimidated like I should be by Tempest, instead I'm just bored. The song lacks power. When it comes to G5 I liked all the songs, very catchy, well-sung. I might have to re-listen to the song where Sunny and Izzy run away together because I wasn't impressed by it. Maybe it will grow on me if I listen more? "Gonna Be My Day" is good, "Fit Right In" is fantastic, "Glowin' Up" was one that had to grow on me and now I like it too. Sprout's song was alright, very catchy, but the lyrics were kind of dumb. Maybe that's because he's a pathetic villain and he's not supposed to be too intimidating, the song is supposed to be dumb like him, but it's kinda... yeah, it's dumb. XD

I mentioned locations in the Unpopular Opinions thread, but I really love all three towns and I want to see them a lot in the series. Maretime Bay reminds me G3 Ponyville, very colourful. Zephyr Heights is gorgeous and I love the verticality of it, I love all the gold. Bridlewood got the least amount of screentime but I'd like to see more! Compare to the locations in G4 which was just... dirt, dirt, dirt, and more dirt. G4 Ponyville was flat with dirt roads and copypasted cottages everywhere. Like I understand copypasting things to save time and money, but you can at least change some things here and there! Everything looked the same in Ponyville! The locations in G5 have a lot of "layers" to it and are more lively.

Plot was okay. Better than G4. Like... G4 was definitely more high-stakes but G4 ALWAYS had big adventures. That was one of the issues with having a G4 movie -- what can you do that hasn't already been done before? And most people will say that the movie was worse than an average FiM episode. The Mane 6 were bumping into characters, for what reason? To sell toys that didn't even sell? Capper shelfwarmed at Target for like two years before moving to Five Below to shelfwarm there. Capper and the Pirates were worthless, Grubber was an annoying henchman, the Stormking was lame. The seaponies had like 2 minutes of screentime until Twilight uncharacteristically stole their pearl, because every kids movie needs an obligatory third act breakup scene, even if that means everyone acts out of character. Oh, and there can't be any complex emotions or any consequences, so make sure they make up and be friends again within 5 minutes. It all just felt like filler. Every character in ANG seemed to have purpose even if they didn't get that much screentime (Alphabittle...).
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: serena-hime on September 26, 2021, 07:56:54 PM
I watched it finally! I liked it a lot more than I expected, I ended up SOBBING a few times lol. I love Izzy!!!

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Also the ending REALLY threw me because I bought and read the little children's book for the movie and it's NOT the same ending! They really knew what they were doing with that lol
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on September 27, 2021, 07:41:32 AM
I watched it finally! I liked it a lot more than I expected, I ended up SOBBING a few times lol. I love Izzy!!!

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Also the ending REALLY threw me because I bought and read the little children's book for the movie and it's NOT the same ending! They really knew what they were doing with that lol

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I'm really curious, how did they do the ending in the book?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 27, 2021, 08:20:02 AM
Did Green Guard ever get a name and symbol?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: serena-hime on September 27, 2021, 08:32:25 AM

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I'm really curious, how did they do the ending in the book?

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It ends in basically the same way, except Sunny doesn't become an Alicorn! I felt it was a super boring ending so I was really surprised by the movie ending lol they must have omitted the full ending to maintain the surprise, I'm sure they knew fans would get ahold of the book and spoil it.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: NanoRuby on September 27, 2021, 08:57:39 AM
Did Green Guard ever get a name and symbol?

I can't remember if I saw a cutie mark on him, but his name is Thunder!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 27, 2021, 09:02:57 AM
Did Green Guard ever get a name and symbol?

I can't remember if I saw a cutie mark on him, but his name is Thunder!

That's a good name. Thank you Ruby.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Shaiyeh on September 27, 2021, 01:41:46 PM

Leave a Whisper -
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we've always had unicorn royalty tho? I mean, Majesty in g1... but. I agree, I also hope it's not permanent tbh. it would be unnecessary. We'll see what the series says. maybe it'll just be a special magic power for certain occasions?
Also, I take it as "not as big of a deal" since noone went 'omg sunny you have WINGS' . + majority so far of Sunny toys are earth ponies, bar the RC rollerskating one. but yeah. guess we'll see what happens with that ^^'

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I know. I meant the earth ponies and pegasus as well. I'd like to see magical royalty distributed across all known species, is all I'm saying. Not just unipegs and the occasional unicorn.

Ah, right! I get you. I agree, that would be nice :)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on September 27, 2021, 04:09:12 PM
The MLP movie, I watched it.

I think it was decent, is it better or worse than anything else we've seen with MLP. It's hard for me to go in and compare the original cartoons to the stuff being made now. I think it's a draw at best to say it's better or worse. I don't want to say it's just okay, it was pretty, it was cute but I don't particularly feel the desire to love or hate it.

I will say without spoilers I think at least for me, there seems to be missing payoffs in the story I'd like to see. The character setup at the beginning is really good. And, maybe they're planning more but for me the movie was good till a certain point and then I feel like something went missing story-wise or it felt weirdly like a bit of a rush to crash land the ending, maybe it was just trying to fit the story they were trying to tell into the confines of the 'movie' timeframe. I almost felt this would have been better as either had an addition episode or a mini-series.

However, I don't know if it was 'more' I was wanting. I think it's more an explanation to things that either didn't make sense to me, didn't follow through with a payoff or that just didn't feel like a satisfying conclusion to the events that happened in the story.

Sooo, I think kids will like it but I'm not sure it's enough there for me to like it more than just a passing netflix movie I'll forget about in a few months. Watching this movie didn't make me feel excited for more MLP movies or a series. 
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Dragonflitter on September 27, 2021, 09:05:44 PM
Karen, you put my thoughts exactly into words! The movie had some nice ideas and a good set up, but it's like it didn't know how to do justice to the ideas they wanted to explore in the time they had to do it. Some characters get practically no exploration (Pipp) and some ideas were introduced and then never followed up on.

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Oh yeah, and I see I was right about them not bothering to explain what divided all the species to begin with. They don't go into that at all. Nor do they explain where the three crystals came from or how they got separated and each piece given to one of the three species.

Maybe these ideas will be explored more in the series that will follow this, but like Karen said, I'm not interested enough to want to see more.

Mostly I just have questions. Like, Maretime Bay and Zypher Heights were both shown to be technologically advanced, even with smartphones and TV's. And yet the unicorns that live in the woods have no technology? Even their "video games" are shown to be made of wood and powered by animals on a treadmill? (An old cartoon cliche.) Why such a separation? What is the purpose, story-wise, for the unicorns to be living like fantasy-style cavemen, basically?


The angry mob song I was going to give them credit for some interesting imagery. Though I didn't really think it fit the tone of the rest of the movie AT ALL. Then I saw some comparison photos on tumblr that showed they basically stole er I mean paid homage to heavy metal music videos. :\ All the imagery in that song came directly from old music videos.

It was like in Frozen II when the plot came to a screeching halt so they could stop and do a parody of an '80's power ballad, which didn't fit the tone or themes of the rest of the movie.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: sunshinedim on September 28, 2021, 04:43:59 AM
I find it a bit sad that G4 is so connected and respected in G5...... while G3 was completely ignored in G4 and the only reason they brought up G3 was to make fun of it (like the moment where G4 Pinkie Pie turned into G3 Pinkie).

And also I remember Lauren Faust's comments on g3 cartoons was always openly negative in interviews.... which I wish that she had kept to herself.

I hope this generation will include some respectful nods to G3 since that's one of my favorite generations.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Ragamuffin on September 28, 2021, 05:33:26 AM

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Mostly I just have questions. Like, Maretime Bay and Zypher Heights were both shown to be technologically advanced, even with smartphones and TV's. And yet the unicorns that live in the woods have no technology? Even their "video games" are shown to be made of wood and powered by animals on a treadmill? (An old cartoon cliche.) Why such a separation? What is the purpose, story-wise, for the unicorns to be living like fantasy-style cavemen, basically?


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I didn't think about it until last night, but like... what happens to the species now that magic is back? They're just friends now? Everyone gets along all of a sudden because of magic? What about the prejudices they've been taught their entire lives, is that all thrown away now, the instant magic is brought back? I guess this is something that could be addressed in a series or the special.

And are these three towns the ONLY places on the planet where ponies live...?

I can't remember if the unicorn technology part was brought up or not, officially. Maybe it was a theory, maybe it was someone who worked on the movie that said this, but it might've had to do something with the unicorns' superstitious nature. "Technology bad"?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on September 28, 2021, 08:48:21 AM
Ok, I'm caught up :) But gonna spoiler tag. This post will probably be long within the tags.

I will say that it was a lot more enjoyable than I expected and that the trailer did it absolutely no favours whatsoever. So yeah.  I was pleasantly surprised.
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Whoever knew Mayonnaise was so dastardly.

I admit, I am not huge about the G4 references but they didn't overdo that part of it, which was nice. I was kind of resigned that we weren't going to escape that kind of connection between G4 and G5, we have to remember there was no connection between any previous gens so this is actually a new thing. I don't really want Sunny playing with G4 models or whatever, but if that's the extent of it, then fine.

 I was kind of amused at evil Rarity at the start. I was like, oh look, an accurate representation of the bronyverse. (Which is an observation I should probably recant given my other observation below but w/e).

So I'll say it here as well. The characters are not as much like the ones from G4 as the trailer implied. They do have some common traits but somehow it's tamed down? So Izzy is a bit happy-go-lucky but she's not Pinkie Pie annoying. (Does Izzy live in Twilight Sparkle's house by the way??). I think someone else mentioned it really nicely about how the M6 had basically one mode each...these guys do seem more mature...also more balanced. Which suggests either better character creation or probably better writing at the base.

There are gaps. There are things that you want more explanation on. There's the song about being friends literally ten seconds after Sunny and Izzy meet, and I can't even remember when Izzy tells Sunny her name, I must've missed it...but it's a film, not a series. A series of eps building up the whole reunification of the different ponies would maybe have fleshed those things out more but I get why they did it this way.

The Angry Mob song is hilarious. I shouldn't say that, but it is. Sprout is insufferable; I don't like that he didn't get punished for his actions at the end. He just knocked Sunny's house down and his Mum is avoiding telling him off? That's a weakness G4 also had, the lack of consequences for the 'bad guys' because of the need to become friends. So I think he really needed to be there rebuilding Sunny's house or something. That would've worked.

We didn't get an explanation of what happened to Sunny's Dad. I want to know. Did he experiment one too many times? Do some research that went wrong? Go on a long journey and never come back? It's also interesting given how G4 was shy of themes like death re AJ.

In context with the rest of the story, Izzy turning up and all the ponies running away is less obnoxious than it was in the trailer. It felt less harmful within the actual plot, with the general overreactions all over the shop.

I actually like Izzy a lot more than I thought I would. I could talk a lot more about this but the fact she isn't caught up in the unicorn superstitions, isn't like them in the slightest, and is known by them but doesn't have friends among them so goes to the Earth pony town to find friends...all of those things kind of stood out to me. In that context her reaction in the Earth pony town was also kind of logical.

I never thought of flying as needing magic. I found that weird; to me it's physiological. I also think there's a big missing point that wasn't resolved, about giving magic to the enemies. Since the magic is 'friendship', but the unicorns got magic and the pegasi got to fly, and Sunny maybe got magic - at least temporarily...what did the earth ponies get? I had hoped that might be more holistically like the old comics, where earth ponies could also have magic, but I guess that was too much of a hope. I think that needed to be dealt with somehow. If there's a series, maybe it will be, but I'm not sure what the series will be about.

The ending with Sunny being an alicorn - let's hope that's a one off, or like the Equestria Girls when they get their wings and tails. I did notice the rainbow swirls in her hair though. Isn't that a toy release?

I'm still not huge on their face shapes and that's for the toys as well which is a shame. But even despite that I think Izzy carries off the look best. What I will say is they are super expressive with their features, including the ears...which I didn't expect.

Oh yes, also, on a slight tangent but...

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Can I just talk for a moment about the easter egg thing posted up the thread? Because tbh, that tiny thing is actually pretty huge.

We've lived through tennish years of unpleasant people trying their hardest to undermine, denigrate, mock and otherwise delegitimise the existence of previous generations of MLP. Especially G2 and G3. But in that brief frame, they're all there. Together.

The furore around G4 divided pony fans in a really bad and ugly way.  And we are all still really separated out because of all the toxicity over the last several years - in a way that just didn't exist at the end of G3.

The fact G5 has already made a nod to all the generations before it, not just G4, means that G5 has already taken bigger steps than G4 did to be part of the franchise. Maybe the message we should take from that, going forward, is that pony fans shouldn't be so violently divided either. I'm sure the animators didn't think about it as deeply as that, not being in this community, but even so. I liked that.

Especially the inclusion of G2.

So yeah, overall...much more positive about G5 than I expected from this. Really hope it can get the kids excited and move us all on from the last ten years of online junk and memes. The real G4 fans will stick around, and those are the only ones we really want left behind now.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Meadowhaven on September 30, 2021, 01:03:19 PM
I liked the movie! A lot more than I thought I would! :D I am hoping that a TV series or more movies follow, because it's a good start.

Fav main character would have to be Izzy.
Fav background character is Sugar Moonlight! Her design was so pretty, and so much glitter. If she were offered as a figure, I'd buy her right up.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Galactica on September 30, 2021, 01:44:35 PM
I thought it was pretty cute :D

I tried to get my kid to watch it-  he got about halfway through...   i liked the characters and animation.  Would have liked to know how they got into that situation-  but I guess that would be too hard.

Lots of singing.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Ponyfan on September 30, 2021, 07:43:07 PM
I liked it a lot more than I thought I would too.

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I agree with Taffeta that the scene with the Earth ponies running away from Izzy worked much better in the movie than in the trailer.  In the trailer it seemed awkward but in the move it made sense in context.

I was surprised at the G4 opening because I didn't realize that there would be a connection between the 2 generations.  So G5 takes place in a more modern version of Equestria? I was hoping for something that explained why all of the ponies separated after living in peace together for so long.

I liked the songs more than I thought I would too.  I kept wondering why part of the Mob song sounded so familiar and I finally realized that part of it sounds exactly like Lady Gaga's "Bad Romance" song.

I didn't like Sprout at all. I agree with Taffeta that he should have had some king of punishment for almost killing other ponies and knocking Sunny's house down.   

The ending with Sunny turning in to a winged unicorn seemed a bit rushed?  I'm assuming it was a temporary power up but was she given the power because she tried to unite all the ponies in friendship? 

Zipp surprised me. For some reason I expected her to be a spoiled brat type of character but I was really happy that wasn't who she turned out to be.

Did anyone else think that the star Zipp mentioned would be more important?  I thought it would connect to the pendant that Sunny's dad (Argyle?) wore around his neck but instead Sunny, Zipp and Izzy start focusing on the connection between the crystals. 

I also thought that the Earth ponies would get some kind of magic when magic was restored to the pegasus and unicorns.     
 
I wanted more explanation about why the pegasus ponies thought a tennis ball would protect them a unicorn's powers.  Unless it was supposed to be ridiculous to show how wrong the different species were about each other.   



Ponyfan
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: JazzMatazz on October 01, 2021, 05:25:45 PM
Ok, I'm caught up :) But gonna spoiler tag. This post will probably be long within the tags.


Spoiler

Whoever knew Mayonnaise was so dastardly.

I admit, I am not huge about the G4 references but they didn't overdo that part of it, which was nice. I was kind of resigned that we weren't going to escape that kind of connection between G4 and G5, we have to remember there was no connection between any previous gens so this is actually a new thing. I don't really want Sunny playing with G4 models or whatever, but if that's the extent of it, then fine.

 I was kind of amused at evil Rarity at the start. I was like, oh look, an accurate representation of the bronyverse. (Which is an observation I should probably recant given my other observation below but w/e).

So I'll say it here as well. The characters are not as much like the ones from G4 as the trailer implied. They do have some common traits but somehow it's tamed down? So Izzy is a bit happy-go-lucky but she's not Pinkie Pie annoying. (Does Izzy live in Twilight Sparkle's house by the way??). I think someone else mentioned it really nicely about how the M6 had basically one mode each...these guys do seem more mature...also more balanced. Which suggests either better character creation or probably better writing at the base.

There are gaps. There are things that you want more explanation on. There's the song about being friends literally ten seconds after Sunny and Izzy meet, and I can't even remember when Izzy tells Sunny her name, I must've missed it...but it's a film, not a series. A series of eps building up the whole reunification of the different ponies would maybe have fleshed those things out more but I get why they did it this way.

The Angry Mob song is hilarious. I shouldn't say that, but it is. Sprout is insufferable; I don't like that he didn't get punished for his actions at the end. He just knocked Sunny's house down and his Mum is avoiding telling him off? That's a weakness G4 also had, the lack of consequences for the 'bad guys' because of the need to become friends. So I think he really needed to be there rebuilding Sunny's house or something. That would've worked.

We didn't get an explanation of what happened to Sunny's Dad. I want to know. Did he experiment one too many times? Do some research that went wrong? Go on a long journey and never come back? It's also interesting given how G4 was shy of themes like death re AJ.

In context with the rest of the story, Izzy turning up and all the ponies running away is less obnoxious than it was in the trailer. It felt less harmful within the actual plot, with the general overreactions all over the shop.

I actually like Izzy a lot more than I thought I would. I could talk a lot more about this but the fact she isn't caught up in the unicorn superstitions, isn't like them in the slightest, and is known by them but doesn't have friends among them so goes to the Earth pony town to find friends...all of those things kind of stood out to me. In that context her reaction in the Earth pony town was also kind of logical.

I never thought of flying as needing magic. I found that weird; to me it's physiological. I also think there's a big missing point that wasn't resolved, about giving magic to the enemies. Since the magic is 'friendship', but the unicorns got magic and the pegasi got to fly, and Sunny maybe got magic - at least temporarily...what did the earth ponies get? I had hoped that might be more holistically like the old comics, where earth ponies could also have magic, but I guess that was too much of a hope. I think that needed to be dealt with somehow. If there's a series, maybe it will be, but I'm not sure what the series will be about.

The ending with Sunny being an alicorn - let's hope that's a one off, or like the Equestria Girls when they get their wings and tails. I did notice the rainbow swirls in her hair though. Isn't that a toy release?

I'm still not huge on their face shapes and that's for the toys as well which is a shame. But even despite that I think Izzy carries off the look best. What I will say is they are super expressive with their features, including the ears...which I didn't expect.
My answer to something quoted above

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It was touched on breifly in G4 the pegasai need magic to fly when teirak stole thier magic and they couldn't fly. Was never explained fully I don't think



Movie was ok, my biggest gripes were I hated all the music and the film shot cuts hurt, they were so abruptly bad.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Zapper on October 02, 2021, 03:20:26 AM
I've been out of MLP for a good while. I was hoping the movie would get me back into collecting/appreciating but I fear I have finally become one of those oldheads who prefers the older gens for nostalgia purposes (I've been on this path for years now and ok with it, not everything has to be for me, especially not a kids show).

The new movie is cute, funny, perfectly fine for kids. Don't like all the real world references. It reminded me of that cursed Dreamworks flick with the Will Smith fish :P
The unicorn forest was the only place that vaguely looked fantasy inspired and then they put in that ordinary bar with a Dance Dance Revolution type game station...

It's just not my cup of tea, I'm an old fart, etc. :lol:
I don't even want to overanalyze it like FiM or Filly. I have no interest, it's neither positive nor negative.

I hope it's gonna be a hit with the kids and repel as many adults as possible for reasons I have expressed a dozen times before :lol:

Guess I'll stick to retros and minimize my presence here once more. But hey, maybe G6 is lurking right around the corner. We'll never know what happens once the G5 show is over. I just hope it won't take a decade like G4.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: WingsOfMasquerade on October 03, 2021, 08:03:24 PM
It was better than I thought!
I came in with low expectations, but really, it was a solid thing. You could also tell that whoever was making this one, had a real square about what they wanted for the plot, unlike the G4 movie which super totally didn't. G4's was a disjointed mess that you didn't even need strange toys (giant sounds hippogriff/haven bay) to point out that there was tons missing from it and it was a mish mash they melee'd to the table after it didn't make sense with the show's continuity at all. This one was not at all that way, so, solid first step.

As mentioned before by others the characters aren't "one note" like they tried to have G4 be, so there's potential for more entertainment without being stale. "Oh is Fluttershy going to be shy again? Is Dash going to be obnoxious somehow and have to learn the 30th lesson about that same thing?"

Unanswered questions:
I actually think this is OK IF IF IF the show addresses them. We need the movie to introduce us & introduce questions so the show can have plots. That's why I didn't get too mad "they didn't explain the crystals", "what about Sunny's house/dad", or "where are Celestia and Luna this whole time". Those 2 are known immortals and in ponyplanet the sun and moon don't have the ability to just move on their own. (Or the planet doesn't spin.......or whatever it is that the sisters do--they obviously either found a way for the planet to go on it's own or....?) The show can have plots about that.

Capitalism*!
It SEEMED like the plot REALLY wanted to have something to say about crony-capitalism here but then was never quite allowed to say it. Badguy & Mom were obviously a company monopoly / living a cushy life on everyone elses' money and so even if it would ruin the world they want to continue to do that. There's 200 parallels here like all the corn subsidies, how oil and coal barons are in the senate of the US and big polluters/profiteers/whatever just keep that status quo for another quarter, regardless of what or who it kills.
Police State!
Same thing here REALLY wants to talk about cops/thin blue lines and then juuuuust about couldn't say it. ZERO coincidence that the richest gal in town's son is a bully cop who quickly turns into a dictator when given a speck of power. "Pick up the litter" is a meme or a reference from something older/a live action something but I don't remember what it is...it also came to 'stand for' police violence as a sort of metaphor? I'm not historical enough to point directly but the incidence of someone saying it in the movie was just like way too frequent, they were certainly using it as a red flag to announce 'badguy is bad'.
*Crony-capitalism isn't real capitalism

Make way for the show:
What do you think the conflicts in the show will be? Will we get non-pony villains? I think it was a bit of a bold move to have "well society and specifically 1 guy are the villain", instead of 'something else' from outside. Will the show be slice of lif-ey or more adventure?

Downplay of symbols?
Did anyone else feel the symbols were minimized? Everyone looked like they were made of some kind of felt (reminiscent of TROLLS movies) , but it seemed like the symbols were very small, minimal and faded in their designs? I am not a fan of this/hopefully the show has them done better. Not that their symbols were gorgeous, but pony has always had symbols.

It's not going to make me get the toys.
I'm super jealous of the lovely hair they've given the big ones (why couldn't G4 have had that quality on the fashion styles???), and I was actually hoping the movie would make me want the toys. I WANT that excitement in the toy aisle again! I WANT beautiful toys to collect and fun things to watch! But their chihuahua dog faces and human heads just make me say no. The bodies are better but they have exact-front-face eyes, literal dog muzzles and they're even migrating the ears more toward the side to get them doggier (horse ear goes on top) I think it's also the rounded back of the head to make it like a human doll/equestria girl with the neck in the center of the bulb-head that really screams "this isn't a pony" too much for me to get the toys.

I'll watch the show:
Given the quality of the movie's effort, I'll def. be watching the show, though. Nobody's 'the scrappy doo', the visuals will be good because CG, and it's clear that whoever is behind the plot here has a good head on their shoulders for character development and having a movie that makes sense but isn't too predictable. It gives me confidence that they can do a good job.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Galactica on October 04, 2021, 11:12:07 AM
The "cutie marks" were so difficult to see and faded that throughout the movie I kept thinking it was related to the storyline.  Like once things got fixed they'd come in nice and strong or something.  In many scenes you can't even see them at all.

But I guess nope!

I like the hoof design.

I get the impression that this was a one off movie with associated toys- not necessarily the start of a new series.  But I haven't been keeping up on pony news, so maybe I'm way off here.
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 04, 2021, 12:26:53 PM
I mean, i presume its the start of one. Its Hasbro's bread and butter.
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Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 04, 2021, 01:16:52 PM
We have confirmation from the investor event in February that these are the new "main characters" we will see for media such as the upcoming Special and Series.
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Post by: Dragonflitter on October 04, 2021, 02:17:16 PM
I really don't feel like this plot or these characters can carry themselves into extended media. But I guess we'll see. :shrug:
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Post by: KarentheUnicorn on October 04, 2021, 03:40:01 PM
I really don't feel like this plot or these characters can carry themselves into extended media. But I guess we'll see. :shrug:

That's kind of how I feel, the movie sort of 'resolved' the issue the ponies were having right??? (lol). I feel like anything they do will just be re-hashing the same issue they cleared up at the end of the movie.

Well, I write that but, the things I saw as a problem, the story writers apparently didn't seem to have the same issues with so who am I to complain and shread a movie plot after watching a movie. Which technically is a tradition in my family to discuss a movie and rip it apart...you should have seen me fussing at the TV while watching the first episode of the new series La Brea.

Plus, G4 had to teach the same lessons of friendship over and over again, for like 10 years so I could be completely wrong here (haha).

But that also doesn't mean I have to watch it :p
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Moonstar on October 08, 2021, 09:52:01 PM
I liked the movie, it seemed to be working hard to be less one note in its characters than G4. Not to say G4 was flat, but you could boil them down to one part of themselves very easily for a plot. I feel like the G5 cast has more depth if they want to go into that...
 (Did anyone feel like G5 is going to be aimed at older kids this time? It could be just the tone of the movie. Not that being aimed at very little ones is a bad thing, I hope it gets new fans for generations to come)

Orange being my favorite color I really like Sunny out of the gate for finally bringing a less common MLP color to the main cast. I look forward to learning more about her :). It's my G1 bias showing but I think they missed a big chance by not giving Izzy a more contrasting purple coat color to make her pop next to Pipp's very similar pink (Of course now that I think of it, Izzy could easily be a great grandchild of Buttons, and Pipp of medley or North Star).

On the overall look of G5 I'm getting use to it, they remind me of G2 in a few ways in the body types. Maybe this is a way for The Big H to give G2 a series of sorts? I just got one of the toys and I have high hopes.
So far Pipp is my favorite supporting character. While the logical, very grown up part of me knows that her golden hoofs are most likely nail polish the fangirl in me is hoping for a Golden Horseshoes revisited storyline. Only time will tell...
I agree the symbols seem really tiny and faded, almost an afterthought.
 Maybe there will be a story there? Finding what you were meant to do as a pony was such a big part of G4 with the symbol link it seems a shame to drop it.
 (Unless G5 is like G1 and it is more linked to their names?)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 09, 2021, 01:01:04 AM
It's funny you say that, Moonstar, since people have been speculating whether it's aimed at younger kids. It can't be both - maybe it's just the same.

Orange and pink combination is a pretty tired one in recent gens. G4 had Scootaloo which is almost main cast and G3 had a lot with this colour scheme from Sparkleworks in 2003 onwards. I'd have liked orange with some other colour, personally. That would have changed it up, but they seem really to cling to the pink/purple shades. We had Berry Bright in G2 but they avoided rereleasing her in favour of the pink/purples (Sunsparkle, Morning Glory, etc).

I also wish Izzy was a bit more colour varied. Never mind.

I agree with Dragonflitter and Uni about there being not much to build a future series on, and I still wonder whether one is going to happen or if it is going to pan out as specials like MH and G3, maybe with pony releases. Or what exactly is going to happen. I did notice some more bg characters in one of the moulded hair sets, it would be nice to see those as proper toys and a wider range of other characters coming into the story.

I think there's maybe a possibility to develop how the new relations work in each town and where there might be teething problems or misunderstandings. Or they could have an environmental episode where they relaunch the train but it damages the environment and they have to find a way to make it less problematic...I don't know.

But it did feel like they went, here are all our ideas, bam, now we don't have anything left to fix.

I still haven't seen the toys irl, and so don't know if I will get any of them. But I also think their bodies are a bit like G2. TBH when I saw them, I had the same feeling I had back in 97-8 when I first saw G2. The "they're MLPs but wow that's pretty different" feeling. Hard to explain but I really do see a similarity. Maybe it's also the CG since even though G2 didn't have animation, it DID have animated sections in the commercials and some of those (at least here in the UK/in Europe) were in CGI.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 09, 2021, 06:11:23 AM
Them unifying tbh, doesn't automatically mean everything will be hunkydory. We'll likely still see some conflicts and misunderstandings as they learn to sort things out.

I don't really see this being directly targeted at older kids just because it touches on real world issues. Almost everything from N Friends onwards has been targeted towards at least kindergarten age, with the exception of Newborn Cuties.

Perhaps with magic returning,  we'll even see a larger world with monsters and other fantasy creatures?And of course magical mishaps as they learn to control their new powers.

I think Moonbow is a descendant of Buttons too. I like to think Sunny is a descendant of one of the Sparkle Ponies.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Moonstar on October 09, 2021, 10:33:03 AM
Oh yes, for sure Sunny's orange could have been paired with something besides pink. A dark blue would be very pretty colorwheel-wise. Berry Bright is actually my favorite G2 so in my head I was picturing a version where she was the main character, and Izzy was G1 Frizzy :happy:.
You guys are right it will most likely be for little kids of course. If there is a series (I forget where I heard the rumor of there being one set for 2022. The internet is so full of info nowadays it's hard to tell it all apart. :yikes:) I picture it being very MLP Tales with maybe some G4-ish monsters? It would be interesting if they brought back the G1 villains with a dark tone contrasted by Tales everyday life episodes. I really enjoyed the everyday themes of Tales when I was in grade school but wished they'd kept the magic stakes too. Time will tell...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 09, 2021, 04:49:15 PM
Berry Bright is definitely best G2 pony. :) It would have been lovely if Sunny had been inspired by a G2 as well.

A balance between Tales and a little bit of magic could really work for a series tbh. I think building the bonds and overcoming the stereotypes/misunderstandings would make for a good series basis, they can't just get past all of those with one magical epiphany. Real life doesn't work like that and teaching kids to work out these differences and stuff so they're prepared to embrace diversity would be a good thing.

I'd like them to tackle a disability story in a more rational way.

I also feel like climate/environment is/should be a theme, as it's so current. I know Tales did this too. We haven't learned much, not even with Captain Planet (and the Smoggies) having existed O.O. but it doesn't hurt to try it again.

But also some other smaller things. The characters in this are adults, or so it seems. But this is for children, so having some small ones involved (there was a group of them at the end of the series, maybe those critters) to introduce some things kids deal with (like moving to a new neighbourhood/starting a new school/etc). Maybe from a mixed species family or from an LGBTQ family. Or something.



Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Wardah on October 09, 2021, 05:00:48 PM
I also feel like climate/environment is/should be a theme, as it's so current. I know Tales did this too. We haven't learned much, not even with Captain Planet (and the Smoggies) having existed O.O. but it doesn't hurt to try it again.

I think Captain Planet did do a good job with improving individual choices that effect the environment. Things like recycling and not littering are more common. The problem is that it's the big companies that are the main drivers of environmental destruction and nobody has pressured them to change except small things here and there for optics.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Dragonflitter on October 09, 2021, 05:28:46 PM
I've seen several people in different places online say that these G5 characters have "more depth" than the "flat G4 characters" and really I have no idea where people are getting this idea?

The G5 characters seem completely one-note to me. Sunny doesn't change at all in the entire movie. She starts out believing all the pony species should unite and hardly ever doubts herself the entire time. In the end she is proven right. There's no character change or growth. She never learns a lesson or overcomes anything personally. She completes her quest by proving she was right from the start.

At least Twilight Sparkle had character growth in the beginning. She started out not trusting friendship and had to learn about friendship as the series progressed. That makes way more sense to me than someone who starts the movie believing in friendship and then ends the movie being proven right. (It's like comparing animated Mulan to live action Mulan. Animated Mulan had to gain skills and confidence throughout her stint with the army. Live action Mulan was born with incredible skills because she was "the chosen one." Which one was more interesting to watch?)

Izzy is the peppy, spunky one. As others have said, she's a toned-down Pinkie Pie. That's her entire character. I don't think she's really serious once in the entire movie. There's not a lot of depth there. Is there something I'm missing? Does she have character depth because she does arts and crafts on top of being zany? I don't think that counts as character depth.

Zipp has a few lines about how she wants to be honest with her people, and she doesn't like lying to them, and that's it. And we see her do a few daredevil moves when she's running away from the palace guards (a plot that is never explained...what was she doing in the mountains? Running away from the city? Was she going to another city? Was she just playing hooky for the day? What?) Her character is literally just Applejack and Rainbow Dash combined.

Pipp had like six lines in the entire movie. She is the one with the least characterization, and all of it is just her being a youtube influencer type character. There's no depth there. There's exactly one line where she encourages Sunny to "find the rhythm" and, if I was being generous, I could call it evidence of her caring about someone else besides herself. But I wouldn't call her character more than one dimensional.

Hitch I would say is the only character with actual growth or depth at all, because he starts out firmly believing "the law is the law" and by the end he has a change of heart and believes in their cause. The adventure changed him and made him grow. (It's almost like Hitch is an actual real character in a real story!)

Also I would point out that Hitch is the only character who seems to have a personality that isn't just a copy of one of the Mane 6 from G4. Sunny is a Twilight Sparkle personality, right down to making notes in a journal. Zipp is an RD/AJ mash-up. Izzy is Pinkie, and Pipp is a glamor girl like Rarity (with none of Rarity's depth because they didn't show her doing anything BESIDES glamor, unlike Rarity.)

And even then, they didn't really give him a very developed personality. They gave Hitch the very stereotypical "boy characters are obsessed with law enforcement, right?" type of personality. Sigh.

I mean sure there's tons of room for these characters to DEVELOP depth and become more than one-note personalities, especially if there's going to be a series. But just from the standpoint of this movie, by itself? I'm not seeing it.
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Post by: Wardah on October 09, 2021, 05:52:06 PM
I think by "depth" they mean that the characters are more "relatable" and less wacky looney toons. Like I liked Pinkie but I could never relate to her because she was too over the top but I feel I can relate to Izzy.
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Post by: Dragonflitter on October 09, 2021, 06:33:08 PM
Oh okay now THAT makes sense! I can agree with that reaction.

I wasn't equating character depth with being relatable and understandable, so I've been confused.  ^^; But I can see what you mean!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Ponyfan on October 09, 2021, 07:04:53 PM
I've been wondering if the symbols being "faded" are because they tried to make it look like a natural part of the coat instead of something that looks like it just magically appeared there.  If that's the case maybe we are going back to ponies just having symbols because they're ponies without any connection to a pony's destiny.

I thought in the scene where Sunny and Izzy meet Zipp in the mountains, Zipp told them not to tell the guards because she was practicing trying to fly and since it seemed to be a closely guarded secret that the royal family couldn't fly Zipp  was afraid of them finding out what she was doing.


Ponyfan


 
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 09, 2021, 07:09:08 PM
I never really saw a whole lot of depth in most of Hasbro's characters.

OT:
Captain Planet and Ranger Rick taught me a lot, and I still do some of the little things today,  like picking up litter, cutting soda rings so it doesn't choke small  animals and the 3 Rs.

Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: SunPony on October 09, 2021, 08:41:53 PM
I guess I wouldn't expect much character depth/development in a 1.5 hour adventure-type kids' movie.  I feel like that's more likely to come in the future tv series?  Maybe we'll see more focus on individual characters in certain episodes, and learn more about their backstories then. 
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Post by: Taffeta on October 10, 2021, 01:17:58 AM
Oh okay now THAT makes sense! I can agree with that reaction.

I wasn't equating character depth with being relatable and understandable, so I've been confused.  ^^; But I can see what you mean!

Yeah, it's what Wardah said. The Mane 6 are one note to the extremes. They're basically walking cliches. And although I don't have the knowledge of later series to know if they develop over the course of that time, I did see the movie and frankly, they didn't seem to have learned anything or evolved at all to me. I'm still sore over Twilight's treatment of the pirates. Friendship is not getting what you want and then abandoning them to the consequences. It just isn't.

I did think from the trailer that Izzy was going to be Pinkie and Zipp was going to be Dash but they're not. They're much more nuanced. Depth is the wrong word in a sense because we've 1 h 30 of these characters versus 9 years of the G4 lot, so that's not a fair comparison given the material difference. However, the thing that the G5 characters do have is the possibility to not be that single note stereotype, because they're not carved in its image.

It's also the context and details around them though. Izzy is a unicorn who isn't like the other unicorns and goes hunting for a friend in the earth town - despite all the stereotypes about earth ponies - because she finds Sunny's flier and believes in it.

There are also unanswered details like why Zipp is in the mountains and what happened to Sunny's Dad which could open up more depth if a series did happen.

Pipp...I don't really like her that much. I'm not big on the influencer concept anyway, I don't really feel she's very genuine, she needs a lot more work to make her believable.

But there are seeds there of things that aren't in the G4 series, and that's basically that these characters feel like they can become actual friends (maybe not with the magic/maybe the song comes too quickly), as opposed to forced together to convey unnatural messages about friendship every episode.

I never felt like the G4 had friendship chemistry, partly perhaps because Twilight doesn't ever learn about friendship, not really.

The irony is for me that the best character in G4 in terms of the friendship narrative is Sunset Shimmer. And the EQG movies may all basically have the same overriding plot of using magic to defeat some possessed being, but in terms of the ideas around friendship...I think Eqg has a much better grasp on it BECAUSE of Sunset Shimmer than the FIM series does. Sunset starts off as a bad guy and ends up as a mentor, but her doubts and her past are always still potentialy there at the fringes. Making her an empath was also a great choice given those things. The M6 are also better balanced because they have her to play off and it forces them to be more involved and actually feel more like friends (more or less). The EQG world Twilight is also better written for the same reasons - she has Sunset to play off but her battle with herself and her doubts and so on is more real somehow than anything I ever saw in FIM. The M6 seem to preach to other people about friendship a lot but don't seem (in the episodes I've seen) to really take the information on board themselves or apply it in a way that makes sense between them. Even in 1 h 30 the G5 group felt more like an actual band of new friends than the M6 has ever done for me :/.

I'm not sure G5 has a Sunset type character yet, but it's definitely something they could put in there. I suppose it could be Sprout but his attitude at the end seems irredeemable. I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Wardah on October 10, 2021, 09:56:32 AM
The irony is for me that the best character in G4 in terms of the friendship narrative is Sunset Shimmer. And the EQG movies may all basically have the same overriding plot of using magic to defeat some possessed being, but in terms of the ideas around friendship...I think Eqg has a much better grasp on it BECAUSE of Sunset Shimmer than the FIM series does. Sunset starts off as a bad guy and ends up as a mentor, but her doubts and her past are always still potentialy there at the fringes. Making her an empath was also a great choice given those things. The M6 are also better balanced because they have her to play off and it forces them to be more involved and actually feel more like friends (more or less). The EQG world Twilight is also better written for the same reasons - she has Sunset to play off but her battle with herself and her doubts and so on is more real somehow than anything I ever saw in FIM. The M6 seem to preach to other people about friendship a lot but don't seem (in the episodes I've seen) to really take the information on board themselves or apply it in a way that makes sense between them. Even in 1 h 30 the G5 group felt more like an actual band of new friends than the M6 has ever done for me :/.

I hadn't watched much later G4 because I got bored but from what I have heard Starlight Glimmer is pretty much a Sunset Shimmer type.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Minty_Magic on October 10, 2021, 10:16:07 AM
I watched the movie a while ago now, but I really enjoyed it! I’m not going to hide my spoilers….I think at this point we all know this thread is filled with them. :lol:

Plot/story: Even though the overall plot of reuniting crystals or magical objects to bring back magic isn’t exactly a new story for My Little Pony, I still enjoyed this movies interpretation of it. Unlike FiM I appreciated that the ponies themselves did not actually embody any magical elements of harmony. It makes them feel more like real characters imo. Speaking of Friendship is Magic, I feel the movie did a great job balancing call backs while still letting the new ponies have the spotlight. I know a lot of people wish there was an explanation on how the 3 pony species split, however I disagree. I think it’s more realistic to assume that it was a series of events that caused distrust over time rather than just…one catastrophic event that undid all friendship forever. I feel like to some degree, that is what’s happening in our world today. It’s a slow divide that can get worse as time goes on. The pacing of the story was a little erratic too. The beginning did a great job setting up the backstory and character of Sunny, however once the ponies got the pegasus crystal the plot seemed to rushed. I don’t feel like we got enough time to know the unicorns in Bridlewood, the stakes for the unicorn crystal were MUCH lower than the pegasus crystal, and everything about the ending left more questions than answers. Like, is Sunny’s Alicorn transformation permanent? Her wings and horn still looked temporary to  me. Maybe just the rainbow streak will stay in her hair? I also hate that Sunny is kind of just left….homeless at the end? I was expecting a magical transformation of the lighthouse like Twilight Sparkle got when the library was destroyed.

Characters: I was pleasantly surprised by all the characters in the new lineup. Well…..almost all of them. Pipp was always going to be a hard sell for me with the pop star influencer thing, and she just had like, 0 moments to shine in the movie. I felt like she didn’t even want to be there helping bring back magic, she was only there because she got pulled into the whole thing by Zipp. I saw someone somewhere says that she should have been the one to have the dance off with Alphabittle. That would have given her a chance to show off her dancing skills and help the team with their goal. Her stupid “feel the rhythm” line didn’t really make it feel like she helped much lol. Hopefully the coming series will expand on her a bit more. Hitch really surprised me, I went into the movie not wanting to like him based on what I’d seen in the trailers and promos, however he was a really likable character! He also started the journey off against his will, but unlike Pipp, showed a clear switch in wanting to help the group and bring back magic. One thing that I really liked about this new cast, is they actually feel like a group of friends! My complaint with the main 6 was they always felt like a group of close coworkers and not close friends. They could work together to get a job done, but I could never see them just like, going to a movie or lunch to just hang out and enjoy each other’s company. With the group of ponies I feel like they have mellow enough personalities that they can mesh well and be friends.

Animation/art style: I often will speak out about how I’m sick of animated movies always being CGI, so I was disappointed when I saw My Little Pony was going that path too. Even though I’d prefer 2d animation, I suppose the switch was inevitable, and I’m grateful that what we got does look good! I think the ponies have really cute faces. Even though their snouts are still too small for a horse, they at least are a little bigger and boxier than the G4 snouts. I also appreciate the different body types and wing styles we saw through the movie, it helps the world feel a little more real and not as cookie cutter as FiM’s world. The settings in the movie were all pretty as well. I liked the distinct character of each of the lands we saw.

One last thought….it breaks the MLP toy timeline, but does anyone else think the timeline in this movie could have been G1 - G4 - G3 - G5? (Sorry G2, idk enough about your world to know where you would fit in). In the G3 cartoons the ponies were shown to be living in different lands and overall lacking magic. Even though they weren’t distrustful, they didn’t seem to know much at all about the other species, or that they even were real in some cases which indicates they had already been apart a long time at that point. It also helps build an even bigger gap between G4 Twlight’s leadership and G5 for those who feel all her work was undone too quickly in the movies. It’s just my own little personal head canon I’ve been toying with recently. :)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 10, 2021, 10:23:11 AM
I *did* watch the episodes that introduced Starlight Glimmer and I will say that honestly, she was a better written character than the M6. I'm not getting into the debate on whether she is or isn't likeable/good/redeemable, because apparently that's controversial, but she was more believable.

But I don't know how her portrayal continued after that.

I remember her appearing in one episode of EQG which was interesting. Unfortunately they never continued on that line.

I just feel like if FIM had written the whole story about Sunset Shimmer being converted from a villain to a hero and then a mentor in the way EQG did, using the M6 to help her bring out those aspects of her character...it would have been a much better show.

There were some threads with Luna at the start, which were promising, but...yeah. They didn't really pursue anything like that.

I watched up to season 3 I think, and then odd eps from later seasons when they were on tinypop. My impression was that it didn't matter which ep you watched, from which season, the characters were essentially the same. :/

@Minty Magic, I'm trying to remember from the G2 comics (which I mostly no longer have) whether the G2 ponies had a lot of magic, but I think they did have some. But MLP tales also did not have magic and referenced in at least one episode an incident that was pseudomediaeval with a knight (Squire) and a dragon...which sounds a lot more like old G1.

I'm not sure about G3.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Ragamuffin on October 10, 2021, 06:03:26 PM
@Minty Magic, I'm trying to remember from the G2 comics (which I mostly no longer have) whether the G2 ponies had a lot of magic, but I think they did have some. But MLP tales also did not have magic and referenced in at least one episode an incident that was pseudomediaeval with a knight (Squire) and a dragon...which sounds a lot more like old G1.

I'm not sure about G3.

G3 didn't really have any magic to speak of, in the backcards, storybooks, and the animated media. Star Catcher is one of the characters with the most magical presence, being able to grant "wishes", but all she has are a bunch of butterflies that follow her around.

In "Dancing in the Clouds", Skywishes wishes for dance ideas for the friendship ball, Star Catcher comes out with her butterflies. The butterflies carry Skywishes around, which gives her the idea to bring them to the Friendship Ball to use for the dance. Star Catcher plays "Fairy Godmother" in a couple books, one of which her butterflies bring Twinkle Twirl a dress, and the other... I think she brings Skywishes a dress too. There's nothing MAGICAL about her, really. But she's kind of the "wish granter" and could be perceived as "magical".

However, there's a rainbow waterfall that acts as a portal between Ponyville and Butterfly Island. That's kind of magical, right?

Magic didn't come to G3 until "The Runaway Rainbow", but even then, the unicorns didn't have any powers except for the appointed "rainbow makers". Even THEN it seems to be a time-sensitive thing, and they can't make a rainbow without Rarity. Which, Rarity might be the only magic user in all of G3, relying on a magic wand that can teleport her, create rainbows, etc. She doesn't really use this until the end of the movie so (imo) she's not as "magical" as Star Catcher despite actually having magic. :P

Spike in "The Princess Promenade" slept for a thousand years so he could give a special flower to a pony and crown her Princess. Nothing magical about him, nor the flower.

Maybe there are some other smaller things but generally speaking, G3 was very... normal. :P
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Starflashbaby on October 10, 2021, 10:58:31 PM
Has anyone seen this I'm sooo Angry what do you THink about it? Or should I start a new topic... this is about media and G5.
https://www.newsweek.com/not-just-kids-anymore-politics-animated-movies-my-little-pony-becomes-woke-1636144
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 11, 2021, 12:14:12 AM
I should have been more clear, I meant I wasn't sure about where G3 would fit in the timeline, but I absolutely didn't say that coherently. Sorry Ragamuffin xD.

@Starflashbaby - MLP stopped being about kids in the eyes of the media the moment they discovered bronies. I think it's an unavoidable situation that they'd look at the G5 movie with the same eyes now, given everything we've seen over the last several years.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: SunPony on October 11, 2021, 05:37:54 AM
Has anyone seen this I'm sooo Angry what do you THink about it? Or should I start a new topic... this is about media and G5.
https://www.newsweek.com/not-just-kids-anymore-politics-animated-movies-my-little-pony-becomes-woke-1636144

Are you angry about this newsweek article or about the movie?  I wasn't clear on that...

Putting politics-related stuff in spoiler in case someone doesn't want to see it:

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I don't have Netflix so I still haven't seen it in its entirety, but I've watched all the song scenes and a few others.  Just from watching the Angry Mob song scene, it is pretty clear that Sprout either is intended to be, or was knowingly allowed to resemble, Donald Trump.  It is there both physically and in his personality, intentions, fear-mongering, etc.  Is the resemblance total?  No.  Would it be clear to an adult American viewer?  I think so!  That could then push the whole rest of the show into "interpret this in the light of American politics!" territory.  However, I'm not sure who they are implying Sunny to resemble...?  The separation of the "species" seems like it could be referring to the political AND OTHER polarizations we are experiencing in not just the US but the world currently - but it also could not be!  But with Sprout there being how he is, yeah, it makes the mind of an American adult go there.

Again, I'm not sure if you are saying you were angry that MLP included these topics (social division, fearmongering, reference to Trump, etc.), or that someone wrote an article about it.  I see the article as a piece that could probably have been written about ANY kids' movie, as most will include things that someone will be able to understand to be political (whether it was intended to be or not).  For me it is Sprout that pushes it over the edge into "clearly referencing current American politics" territory.  As I said I haven't seen the whole thing, but I suspect that without him, or with him being a little more different, that that connection would be more nebulous.

Was interesting about the Lorax book vs movie.  And I do think lots of kids' movies put stuff in them for adults, as the article suggests. 
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Zapper on October 11, 2021, 06:41:42 AM
As someone who watched a lot of cartoons from the 80s and 90s, mostly produced by the US of A I gotta say they were way more political than what is presented nowadays. 80s had a ton of Cold War and War for Oil stuff going on in cartoons for boys and 90s had a lot of special episodes or entire shows base on environmentalism.

Not sure what people see in the G5 movie but back when it was said that the main character would be an activist, lots of people - me included - joked about her being a Tumblrite - and it didn't come true at all.
She was just another "we need to bring the band (back) together" character. Calling everything activism or "empowered" is just a way of getting parents to think your show teaches good morals. It's like the "the more you know" stuff that was attached to She-Ra or Transformers back in the day so parents would let their kids watch the 25 minute toy commercials :P
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 11, 2021, 06:59:48 AM
We had PSAs coming out of our ears in the 80s and 90s. A lot of it centered on environmentalism, drug use, running away, safety, yada yada. I'd hate to see what they think of those. Although I admit I'm a bit tired of today's moralizing and whining.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 11, 2021, 01:09:16 PM
Actually, that is also true. There's an episode of Bertha - intended for preschool kids - that has the staff out on protest strikes. Bertha was an eighties show, there were a lot of strikes here in that time period. I watched Bertha as a kid and would never have picked up on those undertones, but as an adult I understand them :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzidH-sWpWU&list=PL7xrY1cQ_yz3-UESF_00TQ3sm-WRACFLJ&index=8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzidH-sWpWU&list=PL7xrY1cQ_yz3-UESF_00TQ3sm-WRACFLJ&index=8)

There's also the first episode of Jimbo where they have a whole banter at the govt over changes in size regulations over here, because Jimbo got built to the wrong specifications (using metric vs imperial).

And we already mentioned Captain Planet, Smoggies etc...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdCfCSfkLqQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdCfCSfkLqQ)

Jem had all the storylines LAW mentions above, plus there was BaNee's whole narrative which came out of the shadow of the vietnam war (BaNee being half Vietnamese, looking for her American father). There's also really questionable representation of Croatia (Yugoslavia) and then there's Morvania where the bands are basically in the middle of an assassination attempt on the country's princess...

I think it's just with so much media around today, there's going to be someone globalising an analysis like this that we wouldn't have seen or thought about back in earlier times. And G4 hasn't helped it, because it's made people look at MLP more than they might have done in the past.

Even MLP has a drug ep in G1 (Catrina).
Spoiler

Until an (American) friend pointed it out, I didn't make that correlation with Sprout. I'm British. I mean, it's not like we're not aware of those things here. It just didn't jump out at me so specifically. I was worried that it would be very dominated by US politics but I still didn't pick up on it. So I think it's probably not emphatic enough. I mean, I had other thoughts about him standing on that podium with that hat on his head, let's put it that way...





Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 11, 2021, 03:04:40 PM
I watched a while ago and loved it - I'm not going to give too much of my opinions here, because I'm starting an Animation Review Show on YouTube either later this year, or early next year, and am toying with it being one of the things I review soon enough - though I plan on doing at least one G4 review first (Note: as you probably gathered, the show reviews all kinds of cartoons, not just MLP), but I will say that it was a very nostalgic and inspiring movie - it is definitely part of my 2021 nostalgia.

Also, I respect differing opinions, but I actually found it, and it's locations to be very fantasy inspired - Zephyr Heights and Bridlewood especially (both of them kind of reminded me of Final Fantasy X locations - and I plan on using the former for inspiration on a location of an RPG I plan on making, which intentionally has simularities to other things, including the FF games.)  The thing is, modern technology and real world references don't stop things from looking "fantasy" to me - it seems to be because my favorite Final Fantasy games are relatively modern, so technology and fantasy were never mutually exclusive for me - they always co-existed very easily in my opinion (I know there's more examples of fantasy than Final Fantasy)

Also, I've seen stuff about the movie being "political" and "woke" on Twitter, but if it is the former, I found it subtle enough to be ignored if you don't want to take notice it - I just saw it as "a children's movie doing a typical children's movie story" which is a good thing.  I have seen the opposite of this, with the Paw Patrol movie (which I haven't seen) where people were mocking descriptions of it because it apparently seemed too serious for a children's movie, yet the things the descriptions mentioned sounded like "typical children's movie" storylines to me - I personally feel there needs to be more focus on the middle ground, that treats children's media serious enough (like, acknowledges that it can have storylines that sometimes have a serious meaning to them), but at the same time doesn't see some kind of agenda everywhere.

Note: if anyone's wondering, the political stuff will not be mentioned in my review - it is not a significant part of my opinion of the movie, so it will not be part of the review.

Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Moonstar on October 11, 2021, 03:28:47 PM
The whole angry mob thing kind of went over my head and then came back around when I thought about it more. (Now that I'm much older watching cartoons like GI Joe rings so differently, there were so many real life news issues in 80's shows.)
Although real life aside, Sprout sort of reminded me of Big Mac (maybe a far branch of their family?). I have hopes he will turn over a new leaf and be a member of the main cast in time.
I also like the idea of G5 being a series of movies, but if it gets a tv show it may be on Netflix the way they did with Trolls. I think G4 will be in reruns for a while yet...
I sort of miss when live tv was where you first saw new cartoons if only because whole seasons being put out at once can be hard not to watch so quickly :lookround:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Starflashbaby on October 11, 2021, 04:32:44 PM
No no you have to read the headline that's inside the article. Maybe I should make a new topic?

Headline inside article
Spoiler
Fox News recently ran a story with a headline declaring My Little Pony had "gone woke," because the new film in the popular franchise makes "an apparent effort to send a message to kids about empowerment, unity and reform."

Spoiler
This is what I'm mad about. This should anger the mlp community no matter what side of the fence your on. This is just wrong! Mlp is about Love Peace and Magic Hugs & Cupcakes Too!!!!
Am I wrong?!
Yes this movie was political but that's not the message I got from it at the end... I thought that sprout was Hitler not Trump by the way cause of the collar thing....
Anyways there was political aspects but not the motto.
If you want me to make a new topic I can mods...
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Ponybookworm on October 11, 2021, 04:54:40 PM
Spoiler
I was thinking more along the lines of Stalin when I saw Sprout in the military garb & that, but I agree with the general idea of "control-freak-dictator"

Taffeta et al are correct. Politics has ALWAYS influenced cartoons & media. At least two Tales episodes (one about the Green-Winged Songbird & the Lot Less Litter one) were about environmental issues. So I don't see why there's so much fuss about it now
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: SunPony on October 11, 2021, 06:07:21 PM
No no you have to read the headline that's inside the article. Maybe I should make a new topic?

Headline inside article
Spoiler
Fox News recently ran a story with a headline declaring My Little Pony had "gone woke," because the new film in the popular franchise makes "an apparent effort to send a message to kids about empowerment, unity and reform."

Oh I think I see now!  Yeah that two-word phase is a bit much, I would say it's... Is click-bait the right term?  It's stirring up feelings that are not necessary.  Dog-whistle?  Haha I'm having trouble putting my thoughts into words rn.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Starflashbaby on October 11, 2021, 07:07:46 PM
Taffeta & Ponybookworm

Spoiler
Yes I understand using Politics in cartoons... I'm not mad about that, but the motto that they took away from mlp Netflix movie was so far off that I just don't agree even if i do watch fox news I'm offended. Mlp is my life you guys are like family and they just mad me upset by saying the motto of the movie is empowerment unity & reform. That's not why I love MLP's... to empower? That's not Hasbro's goal.

Thanks SunPony!  ^.^

FYI I'm not mad at anyone here, I'm not mad at all, I'm more offended... mad is too harsh.. but anyways its frustrating eaither way.

Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Wardah on October 11, 2021, 08:28:17 PM
Taffeta & Ponybookworm

Spoiler
Yes I understand using Politics in cartoons... I'm not mad about that, but the motto that they took away from mlp Netflix movie was so far off that I just don't agree even if i do watch fox news I'm offended. Mlp is my life you guys are like family and they just mad me upset by saying the motto of the movie is empowerment unity & reform. That's not why I love MLP's... to empower? That's not Hasbro's goal.

Thanks SunPony!  ^.^

FYI I'm not mad at anyone here, I'm not mad at all, I'm more offended... mad is too harsh.. but anyways its frustrating eaither way.



What's wrong with "empowerment" and "unity" anyways? Those seem like values that any decent person of any political affiliation can approve of.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Starflashbaby on October 11, 2021, 09:43:05 PM
Thanks SunPony!  ^.^

I'm making a new topic this don't belong here anymore... this is where the last topic left off...

@Minty Magic, I'm trying to remember from the G2 comics (which I mostly no longer have) whether the G2 ponies had a lot of magic, but I think they did have some. But MLP tales also did not have magic and referenced in at least one episode an incident that was pseudomediaeval with a knight (Squire) and a dragon...which sounds a lot more like old G1.

I'm not sure about G3.

G3 didn't really have any magic to speak of, in the backcards, storybooks, and the animated media. Star Catcher is one of the characters with the most magical presence, being able to grant "wishes", but all she has are a bunch of butterflies that follow her around.

In "Dancing in the Clouds", Skywishes wishes for dance ideas for the friendship ball, Star Catcher comes out with her butterflies. The butterflies carry Skywishes around, which gives her the idea to bring them to the Friendship Ball to use for the dance. Star Catcher plays "Fairy Godmother" in a couple books, one of which her butterflies bring Twinkle Twirl a dress, and the other... I think she brings Skywishes a dress too. There's nothing MAGICAL about her, really. But she's kind of the "wish granter" and could be perceived as "magical".

However, there's a rainbow waterfall that acts as a portal between Ponyville and Butterfly Island. That's kind of magical, right?

Magic didn't come to G3 until "The Runaway Rainbow", but even then, the unicorns didn't have any powers except for the appointed "rainbow makers". Even THEN it seems to be a time-sensitive thing, and they can't make a rainbow without Rarity. Which, Rarity might be the only magic user in all of G3, relying on a magic wand that can teleport her, create rainbows, etc. She doesn't really use this until the end of the movie so (imo) she's not as "magical" as Star Catcher despite actually having magic. :P

Spike in "The Princess Promenade" slept for a thousand years so he could give a special flower to a pony and crown her Princess. Nothing magical about him, nor the flower.

Maybe there are some other smaller things but generally speaking, G3 was very... normal. :P
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: SunPony on October 12, 2021, 05:54:50 PM
I would just like to state for the record that my absolute favorite line from the songs is when Hitch sings "if we fail we'll go to prison!"  It cracks me up every time.  :lol:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 12, 2021, 06:13:53 PM
I would just like to state for the record that my absolute favorite line from the songs is when Hitch sings "if we fail we'll go to prison!"  It cracks me up every time.  :lol:

Nope. The best line involves mayonnaise.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 12, 2021, 08:12:29 PM
I would just like to state for the record that my absolute favorite line from the songs is when Hitch sings "if we fail we'll go to prison!"  It cracks me up every time.  :lol:

Nope. The best line involves mayonnaise.

Were they singing about sandwiches?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: SunPony on October 12, 2021, 08:25:17 PM
I would just like to state for the record that my absolute favorite line from the songs is when Hitch sings "if we fail we'll go to prison!"  It cracks me up every time.  :lol:

Nope. The best line involves mayonnaise.

Which song was that from?  I don't remember hearing that in the songs, but now I want to hear it if it is that good.

Also...your response seems...condescending?  I was just giving my opinion and you are saying it is wrong?  It was just an opinion, I wasn't saying it should be everyone's favorite line, or that it was objectively the best line from one of the songs.  It is a subjective thing, in my mind, everyone can have their own favorite song lyric!  I guess you were going for hyperbole or something but it felt a little condescending, tbh.  Am I allowed to say this here?   :(
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Zapper on October 13, 2021, 01:32:42 AM
I would just like to state for the record that my absolute favorite line from the songs is when Hitch sings "if we fail we'll go to prison!"  It cracks me up every time.  :lol:

Nope. The best line involves mayonnaise.

Which song was that from?  I don't remember hearing that in the songs, but now I want to hear it if it is that good.

Also...your response seems...condescending?  I was just giving my opinion and you are saying it is wrong?  It was just an opinion, I wasn't saying it should be everyone's favorite line, or that it was objectively the best line from one of the songs.  It is a subjective thing, in my mind, everyone can have their own favorite song lyric!  I guess you were going for hyperbole or something but it felt a little condescending, tbh.  Am I allowed to say this here?   :(

She was just being ironic because "mayonnaise" is the forced meme from the movie. Tone on the internet and all. Or is she not allowed to crack a joke? :( :cry:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 13, 2021, 06:59:01 AM
I would just like to state for the record that my absolute favorite line from the songs is when Hitch sings "if we fail we'll go to prison!"  It cracks me up every time.  :lol:

Nope. The best line involves mayonnaise.

Which song was that from?  I don't remember hearing that in the songs, but now I want to hear it if it is that good.

Also...your response seems...condescending?  I was just giving my opinion and you are saying it is wrong?  It was just an opinion, I wasn't saying it should be everyone's favorite line, or that it was objectively the best line from one of the songs.  It is a subjective thing, in my mind, everyone can have their own favorite song lyric!  I guess you were going for hyperbole or something but it felt a little condescending, tbh.  Am I allowed to say this here?   :(

She was simply making a joke. ;)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: SunPony on October 13, 2021, 08:32:15 AM
I would just like to state for the record that my absolute favorite line from the songs is when Hitch sings "if we fail we'll go to prison!"  It cracks me up every time.  :lol:

Nope. The best line involves mayonnaise.

Which song was that from?  I don't remember hearing that in the songs, but now I want to hear it if it is that good.

Also...your response seems...condescending?  I was just giving my opinion and you are saying it is wrong?  It was just an opinion, I wasn't saying it should be everyone's favorite line, or that it was objectively the best line from one of the songs.  It is a subjective thing, in my mind, everyone can have their own favorite song lyric!  I guess you were going for hyperbole or something but it felt a little condescending, tbh.  Am I allowed to say this here?   :(

She was just being ironic because "mayonnaise" is the forced meme from the movie. Tone on the internet and all. Or is she not allowed to crack a joke? :( :cry:

I didn't get a jokey feeling from it.  Maybe the mayonnaise line is funny, but I don't see how that comment itself is funny.  Maybe if I heard the mayonnaise song I would get the joke!

Maybe I just haven't heard that song yet...I wonder if the lyrics are online somewhere...?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 13, 2021, 10:23:53 AM
I think it's obvious it's a joke comment, trying to lighten the thread from the previous darker, now segregated topic.

The reality is that I posted it at 2am, didn't see the word song in the post, and that's all. My eyes skip on screen sometimes and I don't always see every word, especially when I'm tired. I just made a mistake and misread it. No big drama.

It would've been fair enough to call me out on that mistake, to which I hold up my hands, but anything beyond that is ridiculous and frankly, a bit rude.

It's a shame that it's apparently no longer possible to have light-hearted banter on pony discussion threads.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Carrehz on October 13, 2021, 10:29:06 AM
Yeah that's clearly a joke, I don't see what the problem is at all.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Wardah on October 13, 2021, 12:18:25 PM
I think it's obvious it's a joke comment, trying to lighten the thread from the previous darker, now segregated topic.

The reality is that I posted it at 2am, didn't see the word song in the post, and that's all. My eyes skip on screen sometimes and I don't always see every word, especially when I'm tired. I just made a mistake and misread it. No big drama.

It would've been fair enough to call me out on that mistake, to which I hold up my hands, but anything beyond that is ridiculous and frankly, a bit rude.

It's a shame that it's apparently no longer possible to have light-hearted banter on pony discussion threads.

This is why tone indicators are important y'all. They started on the infernal Tok but are really useful everywhere online. I see them all the time on insta.

https://www.intheknow.com/post/lh-meaning-tone-indicators-tiktok/
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Carrehz on October 13, 2021, 12:40:13 PM
Tone indicators have been around way before TikTok was a thing.

And honestly I still don't see the problem here. Not sure why the first thought would be "this is rude and condescending!" for something that was *clearly* a joke, especially since this place is generally chill/non-volatile.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Luxrayx on October 13, 2021, 01:32:32 PM
Conveying irony to people you don't know can always be difficult. Some people struggle with irony in general, or maybe SunPony just wasn't in the right headspace for that type of humor today. But now the misunderstanding has been cleared up, perhaps it would be best to move on? :lookround:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 13, 2021, 01:34:41 PM

This is why tone indicators are important y'all. They started on the infernal Tok but are really useful everywhere online. I see them all the time on insta.

https://www.intheknow.com/post/lh-meaning-tone-indicators-tiktok/


Now that's a patronising post. Well done.

I agree with Luxrayx, I think we should move on. Maybe discuss the song lyrics. I don't know. It doesn't seem productive to keep talking about it, and only SunPony knows what the issue actually was.

If it was about tone, that would make it borderline ableist, frankly, so I don't think it was about that. I think it was a misunderstanding for whatever reason, but it's been clarified. So let's go back to G5.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 13, 2021, 01:36:27 PM
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Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 13, 2021, 01:37:47 PM
I want the ladybird :D So cute :)

Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 13, 2021, 01:58:59 PM
I want the ladybird :D So cute :)

Yeah, ladybugs are very cute.  ^.^
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Luxrayx on October 13, 2021, 02:19:16 PM
Oh right, one of Izzy's playsets DID mention her having bug friends, didn't it? :inlove:
I'm looking forward to seeing what the animation for the show is like. I hope it's as cute and pastel-y as that advent calendar!
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 13, 2021, 02:26:27 PM
I wonder if they're gonna keep up with the paw patrol cgi?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 13, 2021, 02:30:30 PM
I seriously have lots of thoughts on Izzy, but the idea of her being into bugs is a nice one, since there's that annoying stereotype that girls are meant to not like bugs...

Perhaps more importantly, though, it feels like threads from the m6 archetypes are being plucked out and reorganised to flesh out these characters a bit more.

Doesn't look like CG to me on the netflix animation style...unless that's experimental.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: NanoRuby on October 13, 2021, 02:42:23 PM
Ooh, I'm interested to see what's going on with Hitch there. Maybe he has a vigilante alter ego that he uses when he wants to skirt around the law?

(Also I know we've kind of moved on from this topic but I am very much a supporter of tone tags and would not object to seeing them on this forum)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 13, 2021, 02:47:56 PM
I seriously have lots of thoughts on Izzy, but the idea of her being into bugs is a nice one, since there's that annoying stereotype that girls are meant to not like bugs...

Perhaps more importantly, though, it feels like threads from the m6 archetypes are being plucked out and reorganised to flesh out these characters a bit more.

Doesn't look like CG to me on the netflix animation style...unless that's experimental.

Hey! I resemble that stereotype.  :silly:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 13, 2021, 02:54:53 PM
I seriously have lots of thoughts on Izzy, but the idea of her being into bugs is a nice one, since there's that annoying stereotype that girls are meant to not like bugs...

Perhaps more importantly, though, it feels like threads from the m6 archetypes are being plucked out and reorganised to flesh out these characters a bit more.

Doesn't look like CG to me on the netflix animation style...unless that's experimental.

Hey! I resemble that stereotype.  :silly:

*gives cookies*

Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 13, 2021, 02:56:33 PM
I seriously have lots of thoughts on Izzy, but the idea of her being into bugs is a nice one, since there's that annoying stereotype that girls are meant to not like bugs...

Perhaps more importantly, though, it feels like threads from the m6 archetypes are being plucked out and reorganised to flesh out these characters a bit more.

Doesn't look like CG to me on the netflix animation style...unless that's experimental.

Hey! I resemble that stereotype.  :silly:

*gives cookies*

*Offers fruits*
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Wardah on October 13, 2021, 03:10:14 PM
Eh I was just offering to help and that's pretty much the first article I found that wasn't behind a paywall.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 13, 2021, 04:28:51 PM
I seriously have lots of thoughts on Izzy, but the idea of her being into bugs is a nice one, since there's that annoying stereotype that girls are meant to not like bugs...

Perhaps more importantly, though, it feels like threads from the m6 archetypes are being plucked out and reorganised to flesh out these characters a bit more.

Doesn't look like CG to me on the netflix animation style...unless that's experimental.

Hey! I resemble that stereotype.  :silly:

*gives cookies*

*Offers fruits*

Gasp! Healthy eating? ;)

There's nothing wrong with girls being afraid of bugs, I just think it's nice to not promote that as an expectation.

There was a lovely bit of film over here with David Attenborough and Princess Charlotte - I forget how old she was - asking if he liked spiders, because she liked them. It's not that phobias of bugs are necessarily caused by media presentations of them...but it's nice for girls to know it's okay to like bugs :)

I'm honestly worn out on the subject of tone, identifiers or whatever. To be honest, what would be nicer would be people not jumping to conclusions, especially for no reason. It's fine to ask questions, or seek clarity, that's how you come to understand other points of view. But I don't feel like the tags are very helpful in the main to neurodivergent communicators in particular, even though I know some really love them. They seem to be ways to avoid using actual words, sentences and such.

In any case, let's leave that subject alone and go back to the G5 stuff.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Ponyfan on October 13, 2021, 04:33:57 PM
My Little Pony's Facebook page posted pics of these flower sculptures of Izzy, Sunny,  Pipp and Zipp.  They are somewhere in Los Angeles. 

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The other pics had people in front of the ponies. 


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Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 13, 2021, 04:36:43 PM
Oh. That looks like it had a lot of hard work put into them Ponyfan.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 13, 2021, 04:37:40 PM
My Little Pony's Facebook page posted pics of these flower sculptures of Izzy, Sunny,  Pipp and Zipp.  They are somewhere in Los Angeles. 

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The other pics had people in front of the ponies. 


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Well, that's one form of promotion o.O
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 13, 2021, 04:37:59 PM
I seriously have lots of thoughts on Izzy, but the idea of her being into bugs is a nice one, since there's that annoying stereotype that girls are meant to not like bugs...

Perhaps more importantly, though, it feels like threads from the m6 archetypes are being plucked out and reorganised to flesh out these characters a bit more.

Doesn't look like CG to me on the netflix animation style...unless that's experimental.

Hey! I resemble that stereotype.  :silly:

*gives cookies*

*Offers fruits*

Gasp! Healthy eating? ;)

There's nothing wrong with girls being afraid of bugs, I just think it's nice to not promote that as an expectation.

There was a lovely bit of film over here with David Attenborough and Princess Charlotte - I forget how old she was - asking if he liked spiders, because she liked them. It's not that phobias of bugs are necessarily caused by media presentations of them...but it's nice for girls to know it's okay to like bugs :)

I'm honestly worn out on the subject of tone, identifiers or whatever. To be honest, what would be nicer would be people not jumping to conclusions, especially for no reason. It's fine to ask questions, or seek clarity, that's how you come to understand other points of view. But I don't feel like the tags are very helpful in the main to neurodivergent communicators in particular, even though I know some really love them. They seem to be ways to avoid using actual words, sentences and such.

In any case, let's leave that subject alone and go back to the G5 stuff.

What did he say to Princess Charlotte?

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My Little Pony's Facebook page posted pics of these flower sculptures of Izzy, Sunny,  Pipp and Zipp.  They are somewhere in Los Angeles. 

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The other pics had people in front of the ponies. 


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Well, that's one form of promotion o.O

I'm not gonna lie, Moonbow has an interesting expression to say the least. But props for the hard work.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 13, 2021, 04:42:17 PM
If this clip works, this is the moment :) It's of all of them, but from about 1 min 02 is Charlotte's question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFa4W-iKXw8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFa4W-iKXw8)


I really love spiders, so I loved that she asked that. It'd be cool to have Izzy have a spider friend...

It's not that it's a problem for people to be scared of bugs to be scared of bugs, but you know, to encourage those who aren't scared of bugs to be more confident in it, that would be great.

I'd also love to see more love for plants, because people don't treat them very well, but if we're going to save the environment, we really need to be nicer to our trees.

Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 13, 2021, 04:46:40 PM
If this clip works, this is the moment :) It's of all of them, but from about 1 min 02 is Charlotte's question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFa4W-iKXw8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFa4W-iKXw8)


I really love spiders, so I loved that she asked that. It'd be cool to have Izzy have a spider friend...

It's not that it's a problem for people to be scared of bugs to be scared of bugs, but you know, to encourage those who aren't scared of bugs to be more confident in it, that would be great.

I'd also love to see more love for plants, because people don't treat them very well, but if we're going to save the environment, we really need to be nicer to our trees.


Aww that was a cute and helpful little video. He didn't talk down to them but answered their questions so they could understand perfectly still.  And yes,  we need to treat our plants well too.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: SunPony on October 13, 2021, 07:09:24 PM
Ah, yes, as a neurodivergent individual I do sometimes find it hard to interpret tone from text communication!  I interpreted that comment as something like "your favorite is wrong" but I guess it was intended otherwise :blush:  Sometimes I have trouble in real life social interactions, too, but in real life at least there are other cues i can try to use, like body language, so I'm usually okay especially if it is someone I know well...with strangers is another story...especially if they want eye contact...I can get overwhelmed.  I'm really lucky to have a BFF who is a psychologist :lol:  Anyway, the little things at the end of posts like /s for sarcasm and such, like in Wardah's article are super helpful to people like me!  Or when people use the little smiley faces.  I love the faces.  Or even varied punctuation.  I do try to use the smiley faces myself a lot of the time.  Hopefully others find it useful, or at least acceptable and not annoying.

A question I have for people who have seen the whole movie:  Alphabittle seems to be the only pony with a dramatically different body shape compared to the others.  Is that true throughout the cast of the movie?  I've really only seen the song scenes and the trailer, I think.  Is this addressed in any way?  He also has that grayscale color scheme.  I'm just curious if his body being the way it is has any significance.  He intrigues me as a character.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Ponybookworm on October 13, 2021, 08:18:26 PM
If this clip works, this is the moment :) It's of all of them, but from about 1 min 02 is Charlotte's question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFa4W-iKXw8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFa4W-iKXw8)


I really love spiders, so I loved that she asked that. It'd be cool to have Izzy have a spider friend...

It's not that it's a problem for people to be scared of bugs to be scared of bugs, but you know, to encourage those who aren't scared of bugs to be more confident in it, that would be great.

I'd also love to see more love for plants, because people don't treat them very well, but if we're going to save the environment, we really need to be nicer to our trees.
I love that clip, & I like spiders too; they get rid of the not-a-power-of-two legged bugs I despise. Not fear, & I'm fine with the majority of them outside, but in the house it's spiders only. Other bugs can get out or die
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Luxrayx on October 14, 2021, 08:21:31 AM
Ah, yes, as a neurodivergent individual I do sometimes find it hard to interpret tone from text communication!  I interpreted that comment as something like "your favorite is wrong" but I guess it was intended otherwise :blush:  Sometimes I have trouble in real life social interactions, too, but in real life at least there are other cues i can try to use, like body language, so I'm usually okay especially if it is someone I know well...with strangers is another story...especially if they want eye contact...I can get overwhelmed.  I'm really lucky to have a BFF who is a psychologist :lol:  Anyway, the little things at the end of posts like /s for sarcasm and such, like in Wardah's article are super helpful to people like me!  Or when people use the little smiley faces.  I love the faces.  Or even varied punctuation.  I do try to use the smiley faces myself a lot of the time.  Hopefully others find it useful, or at least acceptable and not annoying.

A question I have for people who have seen the whole movie:  Alphabittle seems to be the only pony with a dramatically different body shape compared to the others.  Is that true throughout the cast of the movie?  I've really only seen the song scenes and the trailer, I think.  Is this addressed in any way?  He also has that grayscale color scheme.  I'm just curious if his body being the way it is has any significance.  He intrigues me as a character.
Smileys work great as tone indicators! Case in point: :hug:

I think you're right about Alphabittle, the other ponies don't really vary much beyond wing shape and slight differences in facial structure. I doesn't seem to have any significance beyond being a better fit for his character, being the village chief/big tough guy archetype. :)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 14, 2021, 10:53:12 AM
Well, even though I'm a native speaker of English, as an autistic person, neurotypical English is not my first language either.  And for me personally, tone indicators are NOT helpful, so it's not necessarily the case that they're good for all ND people. Smilies are fine, but tone indicators are kind of like if I started writing all my posts in Japanese and expected you to go google what I was saying instead of writing it in English.

In the end, though, this was just a misunderstanding between two ND people, and frankly, those happen. We're all trying to communicate and sometimes we all fail. It's just one of those things.

In future, SunPony, if you think I'm being incoherent, instead of jumping to conclusions about my intentions, assume I'm being an idiot and ask me for clarification. :) I am often being an idiot. I'm very very unlikely to be being malicious.

All the talk about tone and stuff also has a pretty negative impact on me as I've been singled out over it for years by NT people. This is one of the places I feel fairly safe posting, because people tend to understand what I mean and are supportive when I go off on a rant about something.

I don't want that to change, so I'd much rather be asked what I mean rather than have something I say blown out of all proportion, in a way that has no resemblance to what I actually meant.

So with all that said, let's draw a permanent line under it and properly go back to talking about G5.

I think there's an earth pony in the earth town that has a more solid build than the average. Sort of with Rainbow Dashy colours. Alphabittle is kind of confusing really as a character. I don't know if the grey scheme is important, but he just doesn't somehow fit in the town, with his name, and everything. And the rainbow hoof game thing is just...it's all a bit odd, to be honest. The Unicorn place seems a bit like how the ponies were after KnightShade stole their shadows, when they first arrive - except Izzy. But Alphabittle, while cynical, doesn't seem as apathetic?

I don't know. The Unicorn place makes me conflicted, as I feel like there's a lot more going on there but we're never going to know about it because they already moved past explaining it.

Like Izzy's background as well. Why is she different and why doesn't she have any unicorn friends?
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Luxrayx on October 14, 2021, 11:06:20 AM
I don't know. The Unicorn place makes me conflicted, as I feel like there's a lot more going on there but we're never going to know about it because they already moved past explaining it.

Like Izzy's background as well. Why is she different and why doesn't she have any unicorn friends?
Remember there's a cartoon coming up. I feel like there's a lot of minor stuff like that they didn't explain because they're going to deal with it in the show (or
I hope they do) ^.^
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Ponyfan on October 15, 2021, 07:23:58 PM
I watched this movie while my dad was at the hospital getting a procedure done  so I might not be understanding Alpahbittle correctly but did anyone else get the impression that Alphabittle deliberately picks games that are difficult for the other pony to win to so he gets their item?  I know Sunny said she could solve the puzzle cube quickly but Alphabittle decided to use the dancing game with her instead.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on October 18, 2021, 07:29:23 AM
Not sure if anyone else saw this but I'll post the link, they're seems to be a series in the works

https://www.youloveit.com/2272-my-little-pont-5th-generation-series-g5-news-number-of-episodes.html (https://www.youloveit.com/2272-my-little-pont-5th-generation-series-g5-news-number-of-episodes.html)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 18, 2021, 07:45:59 AM
44 minutes each? Dang, that's a little long.  I mean, if you cut out bumpers and commercials I think your average single cartoon episode was roughly around 20 some odd minutes.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on October 18, 2021, 08:09:34 AM
44 minutes each? Dang, that's a little long.  I mean, if you cut out bumpers and commercials I think your average single cartoon episode was roughly around 20 some odd minutes.

I think those are the specials, the article says the regular episodes would be 22 minutes.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 18, 2021, 08:22:47 AM
44 minutes each? Dang, that's a little long.  I mean, if you cut out bumpers and commercials I think your average single cartoon episode was roughly around 20 some odd minutes.

I think those are the specials, the article says the regular episodes would be 22 minutes.
Ahh okay.  I musta missed that part.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on October 18, 2021, 08:30:40 AM
44 minutes each? Dang, that's a little long.  I mean, if you cut out bumpers and commercials I think your average single cartoon episode was roughly around 20 some odd minutes.

I think those are the specials, the article says the regular episodes would be 22 minutes.
Ahh okay.  I musta missed that part.

I didn't either at first ;)

I wonder if they're going to netflix as well like the movie but it didn't really discuss that info.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Baby Crumpet on October 18, 2021, 02:57:16 PM
I only recently had a free moment to sit and watch the film... Not sure when the spoiler-free time ends, so I've popped my thoughts under a spoiler!

Spoiler
I quite enjoyed it, actually. More than I was expecting to. A lot of the main crew do seem to feel a little like re-hashes of the mane 6 from G4, but I think they have enough that keeps them their own characters. Which is interesting, because although I'd say that Izzy is eerily similar to Pinkie Pie (who always irritated me), I really like her. There's a lot of charm there, she's EASILY my favourite. The songs are pretty good, too - the one that Sprout sings (the mob song) is astoundingly catchy.

The ending did feel a little rushed, but I did enjoy how silly and farcical the villain was. Honestly, I don't have too many complaints with the film. I had low expectations that it certainly exceeded - and I quite enjoyed the hour and a half that I sat down in bed to watch it!

OH, and I love that there are main male characters. Hitch is adorable.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 18, 2021, 03:51:46 PM
@Baby Crumpet - I have the same weird feeling about Izzy. I liked her a lot, whereas Pinkie Pie is one of my least favourite characters in G4.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: brightberry on October 18, 2021, 04:07:52 PM
I liked it!  I don't think it will be a movie I watch over and over again but it had some cute moments.  I loved Izzy's house.  I didn't care much for the more modernized cities and suburbs, but they've been official pony for a long time now.  I don't expect that to change.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 23, 2021, 04:52:44 PM
Tried to watch,  couldn't finish it. Felt average,  and I had that same annoyed feeling in my gut when they tried to make Smurfs and Ferdinand more modern. Although it was nowhere near as awful as the Smurfs movie. Some of the voices are pleasant,  some sounded like they wanted to be over the top, but were too embarrassed and tried to tone it down halfway. The use of every pony still annoys the crap out of me.


But as long as kids dig it, it doesn't matter. I can still enjoy the toys
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 24, 2021, 12:59:41 PM
I never got the vibe they were "trying to be modern" myself when I watched it - it just seemed like they were naturally including modern-ish things as it was part of the storyline and/or what they wanted to do, the same way Tales and Pony Life ultimately feels, in my opinion.

I'm not sure if it annoys me anymore (if it did), but I think I get what you mean - I never saw the movies you mentioned, but I remember seeing the the trailer for one of the Angry Birds movies (which I've also not seen) and there was a joke about the birds tweeting something, and I was like "Oh yeah, because Twitter exists..." so it did kind of feel like they were trying to stay up to date, or something (though, I could have gotten that wrong), so I do kind of get what you mean, even though I never felt like G5 was doing that, because it seemed so naturally included to me, but I respect your opinion.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 25, 2021, 09:29:57 AM
I would like a ritual burning of the term everypony. We didn't need it for 20 years. We don't need it now. Basically.

It just sounds massively patronising and (especially in G4), kind of exclusive considering that there were a lot of non-pony species. I don't know if that will happen in G5, so it may not matter, but it still needs to go.

Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 25, 2021, 09:38:32 AM
I would like a ritual burning of the term everypony. We didn't need it for 20 years. We don't need it now. Basically.

It just sounds massively patronising and (especially in G4), kind of exclusive considering that there were a lot of non-pony species. I don't know if that will happen in G5, so it may not matter, but it still needs to go.

 :iconclap: :good:  :beerchug:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 25, 2021, 09:44:43 AM
I would like a ritual burning of the term everypony. We didn't need it for 20 years. We don't need it now. Basically.
I personally like it as an alternative, and out of nostalgia (but respect those who don't), but I don't like it as a replacement - I'm actually going to try to make it seem like an alternative in my project, as it never made sense as a replacment (ponies have bodies, and can be one pony - there was nothing human about saying "everybody" or "everyone".)

So yeah, it should have been an alternative in my opinion.  I also didn't like hater-bronies made a song and dance about "everybody" being said on previous generations, when they (presumably) didn't butter their eyes at it being said on G4.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Ponyfan on October 25, 2021, 09:55:30 AM
"everypony" instead of "everybody" is bad but "everycreature" is worse to me.  When FIM started the story line about the School of Friendship they started using that when talking to animals that aren't ponies.



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Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on October 25, 2021, 10:53:31 AM
"everypony" instead of "everybody" is bad but "everycreature" is worse to me.  When FIM started the story line about the School of Friendship they started using that when talking to animals that aren't ponies.



Ponyfan





Yeah, "everypony" is very silly but at least it still rolls off the tongue as easily as "everybody" does. "Everycreature" sounds so awkward and clunky due to having more syllables, and it's very weird that they would use that rather than just "everybody".
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Carrehz on October 25, 2021, 11:06:13 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again, I just don't get WHY "everypony" exists in the first place. Everybody, everyone, how are those "human-specific" terms??? We don't say "everyhuman"!!! It just sounds so stupid and forced.

"Everycreature", oh my god... gotta hand it to them, I never thought they could get worse than "everypony", but there you have it. x)
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Minty_Magic on October 25, 2021, 11:23:26 AM
When I have to go back to the office I’m going to address my team as “Hey Everycreature!!” And just see how bad that goes over. :lol:

Everypony was silly, but it never bothered me much one way or the other. Everycreature though was just stupid. At some point you’ve got to admit your cutesy little word games aren’t working anymore and go back to everyday terms. :huh: As it’s already been pointed out, they all have bodies….that’s not like, and exclusively human thing.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Wardah on October 25, 2021, 12:01:57 PM
I've said it before, I'll say it again, I just don't get WHY "everypony" exists in the first place. Everybody, everyone, how are those "human-specific" terms??? We don't say "everyhuman"!!! It just sounds so stupid and forced.

"Everycreature", oh my god... gotta hand it to them, I never thought they could get worse than "everypony", but there you have it. x)

Tbh "everyhuman" has the same problem "everycreature" has. It just doesn't roll off the tongue. "Everykid" does exist and I think "everypony" is similar to that. Like kids have bodies too so it isn't necessary but language is like that.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 25, 2021, 12:37:46 PM
When I have to go back to the office I’m going to address my team as “Hey Everycreature!!” And just see how bad that goes over. :lol:

Everypony was silly, but it never bothered me much one way or the other. Everycreature though was just stupid. At some point you’ve got to admit your cutesy little word games aren’t working anymore and go back to everyday terms. :huh: As it’s already been pointed out, they all have bodies….that’s not like, and exclusively human thing.

I demand to know the result of this. :silly:
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 26, 2021, 12:57:18 AM
I would like a ritual burning of the term everypony. We didn't need it for 20 years. We don't need it now. Basically.
I personally like it as an alternative, and out of nostalgia (but respect those who don't), but I don't like it as a replacement - I'm actually going to try to make it seem like an alternative in my project, as it never made sense as a replacment (ponies have bodies, and can be one pony - there was nothing human about saying "everybody" or "everyone".)

So yeah, it should have been an alternative in my opinion.  I also didn't like hater-bronies made a song and dance about "everybody" being said on previous generations, when they (presumably) didn't butter their eyes at it being said on G4.

In fairness, that kind of bronies have so little legitimacy when talking about anything pony that this doesn't surprise me. But imagine how inadequate you have to be to mock an actual word in general use in the English language because you're that insecure about your fandom space? It's really just bizarre, and totally separate from whether everypony is stupid.

The irony is that everybody is one of those words in English that is already inclusive, doesn't need amending because it refers only to one gender, doesn't need reconsidering because it can refer only to one type of living entity.

In short, it embodies everything that FIM claims to include among its values...unlike everypony, which makes out only ponies matter. Everycreature I haven't heard till now, but clearly someone pointed out to them that they had a word problem, and they choked and spat up that as a solution. They could just have gone back to everybody or everyone - actual words in our language that exist - but...apparently not.

It makes me curious to know how this is translated into other languages. I'm already imagining that Japanese probably uses minna-san, since there's no cute mutation I can think of to incorporate the same effect as 'every pony'. It's hard to know for sure, but if it's also lost in translation, that adds extra layers to the exclusivity aspect.

Mind you, there are other shows where they do this in English at least, but where it doesn't carry over into the translation.

I seem to remember Monster High was also guilty of some awkward and unnecessary word mutations, as well as, like G4, mutated place names. Just gah. Stop it. Kids aren't that stupid, they don't need special words. Teach them real words. They'll need them when they grow up.

Regarding nostalgia. This is nothing personal, but it's really hard as a G1 person to think on anything from G4 as being nostalgic yet, even for the fandom.
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 26, 2021, 05:21:31 AM
I would like a ritual burning of the term everypony. We didn't need it for 20 years. We don't need it now. Basically.
I personally like it as an alternative, and out of nostalgia (but respect those who don't), but I don't like it as a replacement - I'm actually going to try to make it seem like an alternative in my project, as it never made sense as a replacment (ponies have bodies, and can be one pony - there was nothing human about saying "everybody" or "everyone".)

So yeah, it should have been an alternative in my opinion.  I also didn't like hater-bronies made a song and dance about "everybody" being said on previous generations, when they (presumably) didn't butter their eyes at it being said on G4.

In fairness, that kind of bronies have so little legitimacy when talking about anything pony that this doesn't surprise me. But imagine how inadequate you have to be to mock an actual word in general use in the English language because you're that insecure about your fandom space? It's really just bizarre, and totally separate from whether everypony is stupid.

The irony is that everybody is one of those words in English that is already inclusive, doesn't need amending because it refers only to one gender, doesn't need reconsidering because it can refer only to one type of living entity.

In short, it embodies everything that FIM claims to include among its values...unlike everypony, which makes out only ponies matter. Everycreature I haven't heard till now, but clearly someone pointed out to them that they had a word problem, and they choked and spat up that as a solution. They could just have gone back to everybody or everyone - actual words in our language that exist - but...apparently not.

It makes me curious to know how this is translated into other languages. I'm already imagining that Japanese probably uses minna-san, since there's no cute mutation I can think of to incorporate the same effect as 'every pony'. It's hard to know for sure, but if it's also lost in translation, that adds extra layers to the exclusivity aspect.

Mind you, there are other shows where they do this in English at least, but where it doesn't carry over into the translation.

I seem to remember Monster High was also guilty of some awkward and unnecessary word mutations, as well as, like G4, mutated place names. Just gah. Stop it. Kids aren't that stupid, they don't need special words. Teach them real words. They'll need them when they grow up.

Regarding nostalgia. This is nothing personal, but it's really hard as a G1 person to think on anything from G4 as being nostalgic yet, even for the fandom.
Yeah, I think those type of bronies just need any excuse to make pre-G4 look inferior, regardless of whether it does or not, and regardless of whether G4 itself did it or not.  It is silly however we look at it, and whatever our views on "everypony" is (it's just hating things over nothing for the sake of it, I guess.)

"Everycreature" started during the School of Friendship storyline, and they really should have just gone with "everybody" and "everyone" during all that - I never got why they didn't.  I see exactly what you mean about how words like "everybody" didn't need changing and why, which is ultimately why I always viewed "everypony" as a fun way of saying it, rather than a replacement (which it turned out to be.)

I do get what you mean about how everypony acts like only ponies are important, but even that could have been solved by having it be a fun bonus third phrase that ponies use, and have them use everybody/everyone just as much.  The thing is, normally (though I only have Redwall's "Everybeast" to compare it to) I don't tend to like this - I think "everypony" may have worked in my mind due to it sounding enough like "everybody" that it feels natural enough, as well as my nostalgia for FiM?

No offense, but I don't think it has anything to do with whether kids are stupid or not (which, as you correctly say, they aren't), but rather just a bit of harmless fun and I'm sure that kids in general would be able to separate the fun words from the real ones.  Again, it's probably my nostalgia talking (the same as how I never minded, or felt that it took away the fantasy side of things that most towns in G4 were based on real locations - despite the fact it took me a long time to get over parody names of brands and the like in other shows), but it never felt like it  was anything more than just a bit of fun, or even just "what the show does", it never felt like it implied kids were stupid or not, no offense, just a bit of extra fun for them.

Regarding Nostalgia; I respect that - nostalgia is different for everyone, I'm sure.  I love and have nostalgia for G1 too, but I have been nostalgic for G4 since the year I first saw it, and am nostalgic for all generations, all the way up to G5.  I respect it completely if G4 isn't nostalgic to you, so it's fine.  All of MLP is nostalgic to me, with G3 and G4 being my favorites, but... yeah, they're all nostalgic to me.
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 26, 2021, 07:36:41 AM
Nohing wrong with everyone.
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Post by: Taffeta on October 26, 2021, 01:58:37 PM
Nohing wrong with everyone.

Everyone ironically seems the most inclusive. :)

@MJSNEIFER, I didn't mean to sound like I was undermining your perspective - I'm not, really, I just get fed up with the stupid stuff that comes from the other side of the G4 space.

But I do wonder if nostalgia is the word you mean, as it's hard to be nostalgic for something when it comes out...? Maybe it's a different word??
Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 26, 2021, 02:26:46 PM
Its kinda hard to be nostalgic for something that's still going.  At least in terms of toys n stuff.  Nostalgia takes time.
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Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 26, 2021, 03:18:02 PM
@Taffeta: You didn't feel like you were undermining my views at all, and I respect your views.  Everything is fine.

Re Nostalgia: That's just how I am, I get nostalgic for things as I'm experiencing them - it doesn't have to be in the distant past for me (though obviously, I am also nostalgic for things from that part of my life too), at least as far as life and things like TV and movies go - if an event was awesome for me in someway, it can be nostalgic as soon as today becomes tomorrow, and if I really loved a show/movie it is already nostalgic the moment it ends.  I understand that it takes time for some, but for me, it doesn't have to.

I do attempt to talk about this in a YouTube video such as it is.

No disrespect meant to anyone of course, but that's just how nostalgia is for me, and I respect those who feel different, as nostalgia is what it is to all of us.
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Post by: Taffeta on October 26, 2021, 08:18:47 PM
I do still think that most people would use a different word to describe that feeling. Unfortunately it's early here and I can't think of words in English. The only thing that comes to mind is the Japanese word 'kandou'. Since apparently at 4am I can't translate words into my own language, the online dictionary defines that as:

"1. being deeply moved emotionally; excitement; passion; inspiration; deep emotion; strong impression"

I think that's what you're describing, rather than nostalgia, which by its very definition (as LAW said) has to be talking about something in the past, not something that is ongoing.

In which case I can understand it (if not for G4), as I've had that with certain shows, series, books, music without really knowing how to put it into words for other people to understand :O)

Please excuse my early morning incoherence. I'm not amused to be awake at this time.
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Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on October 26, 2021, 08:22:43 PM
Since G4 began 11 years ago, I can definitely imagine there's a decently sized group who are now nostalgic for it, particularly content from earlier years of G4. People who watched it as kids/teens and are now teens/adults would very likely feel nostalgic for G4.
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Post by: Taffeta on October 26, 2021, 09:42:35 PM
Since G4 began 11 years ago, I can definitely imagine there's a decently sized group who are now nostalgic for it, particularly content from earlier years of G4. People who watched it as kids/teens and are now teens/adults would very likely feel nostalgic for G4.

True, but MJSNEIFER was talking about feeling that from the time it first came out, which is what was being referred to. That's not the same as feeling nostalgic now for 2011.
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Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 27, 2021, 02:54:10 AM
For me, it is nostalgia, no offense.  I get that nostalgia is defined as being "for the past", but something that happened yesterday or a show that you just is still the past.  Nostalgia is more about how I feel than how long ago it was - I guess I just work fast with it, but I felt the exact same feeling while I was watching G4 as I did when I was rewatching shows that I loved since childhood.  So for me, it only has to be the recent past if it means something to me... even if there turns out that no one else feels like this (and I've seen possibility that I'm not the only one, no offense) I am still going to view this as nostalgia, because that is the feeling I recognise, though I do get those other feelings too.

The only other thing I can think of, is that I'm so emotionally attached to the subject, that I know already at the time that it is going to be nostalgic, but I'm sorry to say that I'm not even sure this is the case, because I just know how I feel, as cliché as it sounds - the feeling I had is the same feeling I got for things from the distant past, if they meant something to me.  Even if it is less common, that is simply how nostalgia is for me, and I will continue to refer to it as nostalgia, no offense.

I hope no one feels I am being argumentative, and disrespectful - I respect all different views, I just type a lot when I'm passionate about something.

That being said, thank you for introducing the word Kandou to me, Taffeta - it has inspired me to potentially use it, not as a substitute for what I view as nostalgia, but I feel like (a version of?) the word could be used in a project of mine somewhere, so thanks for pointing me towards the words existence.

Also, sorry if I've taken this off topic.

Title: Re: G5 Media News, movie is now out on Netflix!
Post by: Taffeta on October 27, 2021, 10:59:16 AM
At the end of the day, all words are subjective and personal. Just, probably if you have a unique interpretation of a word, it's helpful when you explain it like you did above, so that we have it in context. Otherwise it sounds odd :D

You're welcome on the Japanese word :) It's a weird truth that there are times whatever it is I want to explain makes more sense with a Japanese word than an English one, or there just isn't an English one. I think 'kandou' is one of those. It's written with the characters for "feeling" and "movement", so I guess it pretty much does what it says on the tin.

From the online jisho:
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Maybe a future pony name?

...And now back to G5, before we get zapped for going off on a linguistic meander :)

Do we have a launch date yet for the Netflix series or is it just 'sometime in 2022' at the moment? I didn't notice it above but I am not very intelligent today so may well have missed it.
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Post by: achab1984 on October 27, 2021, 06:31:00 PM
I watched this movie with my daughter and I have to say! " I love it!" It was very cute!
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Post by: Goanna on October 27, 2021, 09:21:43 PM
Just a random little thought that popped into my head but: I really hope we'll get some more brightly coloured unicorns like Izzy. I understand why they're all drab/dull colours story-wise, to show their apathetic personalities... but yeah I hope in the show and toys there will be some more fun colours in there haha
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