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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: Leave a Whisper on August 06, 2018, 04:38:22 PM
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Seriously. New characters are either sold in a playset, or with the main bore.
They don't force popular characters on us in TF, so its not fair to do it to MLP.
Its like they've forgotten how to make a normal sale.
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I think Hasbro is convinced that the Mane 6 are more marketable to kids than new characters. It's like they think no one will buy a new character unless it comes with a Mane 6. The MLP movie packs are some of the worst examples of this as I think just about every 2 pack included a new character and a Mane 6 character.
Capper came with Rarity
Seapony Skystar (first version) came with Twilight Sparkle
Tempest came in a 3 pack with Twilight and Spike
Hippogriff Skystar came with Pinkie Pie
Songbird Serenade came with Twilight Sparkle (How many Twilights does Hasbro think kids need? :lol:
Ponyfan
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Which is weird considering hasbro has been in operation without this method for over 30 years.
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I agree omg haha :lol: I have like five or six twilight sparkles now all because I wanted the ponies that came with her. And dont get me wrong a few are different but others arent. I think they also just want the extra money, none of the popular characters are EVER in a pack alone just so it can be more expensive and force people to buy the whole set for one. All the single pack ponies are kind of budget ponies that arent in the show.
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yeah, this really kinda irritates me. I don't enjoy having to buy a new character that isn't the Mane 6 or Princesses in a pack of ponies that I don't really want to buy. I can't fathom why they think little girls want an additional gimmick of the same 6 or 8 (plus the Princesses) characters that they've been peddling for years now. Are they just afraid to take risks? People still buy blind bags with new characters, so what sense does it make to not do the same formula with the brushables and sell them separately?
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yeah, this really kinda irritates me. I don't enjoy having to buy a new character that isn't the Mane 6 or Princesses in a pack of ponies that I don't really want to buy. I can't fathom why they think little girls want an additional gimmick of the same 6 or 8 (plus the Princesses) characters that they've been peddling for years now. Are they just afraid to take risks? People still buy blind bags with new characters, so what sense does it make to not do the same formula with the brushables and sell them separately?
Who knows? But if they continue this crap into g5 I'm done with new ponies for good.
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I think Hasbro is convinced that the Mane 6 are more marketable to kids than new characters. It's like they think no one will buy a new character unless it comes with a Mane 6. The MLP movie packs are some of the worst examples of this as I think just about every 2 pack included a new character and a Mane 6 character.
Capper came with Rarity
Seapony Skystar (first version) came with Twilight Sparkle
Tempest came in a 3 pack with Twilight and Spike
Hippogriff Skystar came with Pinkie Pie
Songbird Serenade came with Twilight Sparkle (How many Twilights does Hasbro think kids need? :lol:
Ponyfan
I saw the "Al About" Tempest sold by herself at Kohls the other day, thankfully.
the people in marketing shouldn't go off their own assumptions. Bonnie proved them wrong back in g1 with their products, pushing for little ponies, when the marketing team said otherwise, and that girls aren't like her, that girls wanted to cook and clean. Also in making the ponies softer and smaller, and not stiff and clunky like the My Mretty Pony, which was Marketin'g decision. Faust also proved the marketing team wrong. You would think they would've learned by now.
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I think Hasbro is convinced that the Mane 6 are more marketable to kids than new characters. It's like they think no one will buy a new character unless it comes with a Mane 6. The MLP movie packs are some of the worst examples of this as I think just about every 2 pack included a new character and a Mane 6 character.
Capper came with Rarity
Seapony Skystar (first version) came with Twilight Sparkle
Tempest came in a 3 pack with Twilight and Spike
Hippogriff Skystar came with Pinkie Pie
Songbird Serenade came with Twilight Sparkle (How many Twilights does Hasbro think kids need? :lol:
Ponyfan
I saw the "Al About" Tempest sold by herself at Kohls the other day, thankfully.
the people in marketing shouldn't go off their own assumptions. Bonnie proved them wrong back in g1 with their products, pushing for little ponies, when the marketing team said otherwise, and that girls aren't like her, that girls wanted to cook and clean. Also in making the ponies softer and smaller, and not stiff and clunky like the My Mretty Pony, which was Marketin'g decision. Faust also proved the marketing team wrong. You would think they would've learned by now.
Faust is part of the reason for this current state of affairs.
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I agree omg haha :lol: I have like five or six twilight sparkles now all because I wanted the ponies that came with her. And dont get me wrong a few are different but others arent. I think they also just want the extra money, none of the popular characters are EVER in a pack alone just so it can be more expensive and force people to buy the whole set for one. All the single pack ponies are kind of budget ponies that arent in the show.
You're kind of enforcing that behavior from them, imo, if you still buy the set just for the one pony. Vote with your wallet to put a stop to it.
Post Merge: August 06, 2018, 05:15:05 PM
I think Hasbro is convinced that the Mane 6 are more marketable to kids than new characters. It's like they think no one will buy a new character unless it comes with a Mane 6. The MLP movie packs are some of the worst examples of this as I think just about every 2 pack included a new character and a Mane 6 character.
Capper came with Rarity
Seapony Skystar (first version) came with Twilight Sparkle
Tempest came in a 3 pack with Twilight and Spike
Hippogriff Skystar came with Pinkie Pie
Songbird Serenade came with Twilight Sparkle (How many Twilights does Hasbro think kids need? :lol:
Ponyfan
I saw the "Al About" Tempest sold by herself at Kohls the other day, thankfully.
the people in marketing shouldn't go off their own assumptions. Bonnie proved them wrong back in g1 with their products, pushing for little ponies, when the marketing team said otherwise, and that girls aren't like her, that girls wanted to cook and clean. Also in making the ponies softer and smaller, and not stiff and clunky like the My Mretty Pony, which was Marketin'g decision. Faust also proved the marketing team wrong. You would think they would've learned by now.
Faust is part of the reason for this current state of affairs.
pardon?
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Tempest Songbird and sea pony Skystar did get single releases but I’m not sure how much distribution they got? I saw All About Songbird a few times but have never seen All About Tempest or Captain Celeano even though I’ve looked for months. The Mane 6 All Abouts stay on the shelves for months in my area. I’m also not sure how many kids/parents would want to buy a new character with another Twilight Sparkle or Rarity.
Also Queen Novo only came with Seaquestria (as did Haven Bay in the bonus version which also included Twilight Sparkle again. :lol: )
Ponyfan
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I've been wondering this for awhile, too. Not that I mind ending up with some extra Mane 6 ponies (I'll take as many Fluttershy toys as Hasbro throws at me :biggrin: ), but it doesn't really make sense when you consider how many dozens of other characters there are that have never even gotten one toy release yet. I'm hoping the G5 toyline will bring back some actual variety.
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but it doesn't really make sense when you consider how many dozens of other characters there are that have never even gotten one toy release yet.
Friggin'
g4
Toola
Roola
*rageface*
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Even the Midnight at Canterlot set with Minty included Rainbow, Fluttershy and Rarity.
Somewhere deep within the Hasbro offices there must be a memo that dictates that a Mane 6 pony must be produced or packaged with a new character every 5 minutes. :lol:
I would have loved to seen Coconut Cream get a brushable and a few other characters also.
Ponyfan
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This is just what Hasbro seems to do when the line is dying down.
Bring on the legit G5s! What could they look like?
I blame Barbie, somehow.
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Hopefully G5 will be a return to original form. I'm not holding my breath.
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I feel like it's a marketing ploy. If they put a new character with an old one, you'll buy it for the new character, which'll probably be at a higher price than if it were sold alone. Of course, it only works if parents allow it.
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I just hope they make a midnight blue (not purple!) smaller size figure of Princess Luna, preferably sold on her own. I saw the one in the 9 pack (!!!) today at Target. Love the color but I don't need the other 8 ponies.
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So maybe this is an unpopular slant on this but I just think this is what categorises G4. The lack of imagination and creativity in the toy line and the overdependence on the animation and the franchised merch instead.
I am not saying if that is good or bad, but for me it's not attractive. I actually do like a lot of the G4 pony toys, but as I have said before, I generally only collect those outside the mane 6. I have a few mane 6 ones for whatever reason - but I generally don't buy the packs with mane 6 in. The only exceptions I can think of are one with Pinkie & Scootaloo which was on serious clearance and Rarity's carriage for €9.99 because I thought Starswirl was pretty when I saw it in France.
I started off with an AJ, a Rarity and Lily Blossom back in 2011 when I saw them in a store in Finland - but that was before the market got saturated with them. Mostly when I have a mane 6 pony it came from a second hand sale.
I don't know that I blame Faust for this - I think this is Hasbro. I blame Faust for the misconceptions about G1 and for the FIM animation, but Hasbro are capable of thinking for themselves about the toys they produce. I don't even know that they think Mane 6 are going to sell best, but the thing is they rarely give kids a choice to show them otherwise. And to reproduce the same ponies over and over is a cost saving, because same colours, same prints, same dye etc...it's not as much work as creating whole new characters which they can't be bothered to properly promote anyway.
So yeah. This is just the signature feature of G4.
My fear is that Hasbro will take this same concept into G5. I expect them to retain the same horrible boring characters and shove them down kids' throats till MLP is dead beyond the point of rescue.
It's annoying and sad. But ultimately I'm also not their target market. So really what I want them to do is what the kids want most. In my area back home I can absolutely say that kids don't want mane 6 over and over. I've seen numerous kids going through the whole rack to look for a pony that's different. I actually helped one kid find a new pony by accident one week when I was looking at the rack and pulled out Soarin. I put him back at the front of the rack, next thing I know a little girl is all over him with excitement. In terms of the pearlies, the ones we got back home sold out of Coloratura, Pretzel and Cherry Berry before the mane 6 which are still saturating shelves in Entertainer. Cherry Berry did have a prior release I think but I am not confident how widespread it was in the UK - I never saw her.
So yeah. I think kids would like variety, and blind bag sales indicate that too. BUT I don't suppose Hasbro care. They can leave product promotion to the show and churn out the same ponies because of the show.
So although the mane 6 focus in the show is probably the thing influeincing originality in toy line production - it's Hasbro who make that choice. They could easily release background characters more often. They just don't.
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I just hope they make a midnight blue (not purple!) smaller size figure of Princess Luna, preferably sold on her own. I saw the one in the 9 pack (!!!) today at Target. Love the color but I don't need the other 8 ponies.
Haha I thought the same thing, although I'd like to big one. But I couldn't help think what an amazing Xmas gift that said would be
Anyway :shrug: I feel like hasbro knows what they are doing, as g4 has lasted this far and most of the run has been main 6... It's a model they wanted to do since the end of g3, and because of the show, it's a model that worked.
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I rarely see any kids in my area go after the singles, but maybe I'm just not there are the right time? Who knows.
Either way let me put this forward, I was at walmart the other day on my lunch and saw a grandmother with her young granddaughter in the toy aisle with Barbie and MLP. The granddaughter is the target age for MLP but she didn't even look at the ponies, instead she wanted one of those miniature (smallest world figures) Barbies XD.
Likewise when I do see others in that aisle the kids want the blindbag stuff, not necessarily the MLP ones though. One of our Walmarts has an aisle that is nothing but blindbag/blindbox items.
The one thing I'm concerned about when they do finally get G5 out... is the fact that it's the same 6 ponies, but with a different look. The actual toys may not come to some stores quickly due to whatever saturated stock of G4 toys will be on the shelves at the time..
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I 100% agree with Taffeta's stance on this. You summed up my thoughts perfectly. I really don't like the 're-release the same character over and over' model. When I was a kid during G3 I never got a duplicate pony or release. Granted, they didn't re-release that many G3's, but there were a couple different Minty and Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dashes. If they're marketing it towards kids...I mean what kid would want to play with 25 Pinkie Pies or Twilights?
"Come on, Pinkie II! Let's go to the candy shop!"
"Great idea Pinkie I! Pinkie III, are you coming too?"
"Sure, Pinkie II!"
It's just...really weird IMO. I don't really think it's a good model because even though they think they're marketing to kids, it's like they're actually marketing to the slightly older crowd who is obsessed with the show and wants to have a herd full of one character. Nothing wrong with collecting the same pony of course! But it's definitely not aimed at the right age group if they really wanna satisfy their child consumers. At least, in my opinion.
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I've skimmed what has been said, lots of good points... While I do not collect this current line, I do see that G4 could still have a lot of potential! I feel it is unfair for those that are collecting that it's been the same characters over and over and over again... My fear would be that G5 would be like 3.5, same characters just slight re-design.
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If you want to see different characters offered start a campaign. Hasrro won't know what you want or what children want unless you
bombard them with letters, via the post office and even on their social media. Send them videos of your kids asking for new characters. You never know what will happen... Pony bucket challenge! "Release a new bucket of ponies in the next 6 months, Hasbro", something like that and have your kid throw a bucket of the same character in the air saying they're tired of the same old same old characters. Just my 2 cents.
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Hasbro has done this with Transformers recently. They made 13 Prime Masters but you can’t get all of them unless you buy some pricey $>100 exclusive sets.
Also they made these G1 updates of twins. a bad guy set and a good guy set. BUT you could only buy half of the pairs, unless you bought an expensive >$100 exclusive set. rude.
ya it’s marketing.
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Many good points here.
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I'm not sure some of the new movie characters will get single releases. We've only seen Capper and hippogriff Skystar in the 2 packs and Queen Novo and Haven Bay with Sequestria.
I've never seen the baby hippogriffs that were supposed to follow the baby sea pony set either. And I think Hasbro missed an opportunity to make more hippogriff characters then the impossible to find babies, Skystar and Stratus Skygazer,
I'd love to see a Terramar from Season 8 but knowing Hasbro he'll probably be sold in a giant set of repeat characters. Was the Spitfire brushable also sold in a large set? I don't think I saw her?
Ponyfan
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With the marketing one character over and over again, they seem to only be marketing to that "first pony" purchase at any given time. A customer's first time ever purchasing a pony.
Which is weird.
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This is just what Hasbro seems to do when the line is dying down.
Bring on the legit G5s! What could they look like?
I blame Barbie, somehow.
But they've been doing this insane re-release before they announced the line dying down. Unless you mean the gimmick thing.
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But they've been doing this insane re-release before they announced the line dying down. Unless you mean the gimmick thing.
Announced, yes, but its been dying down for a long time at this point, and I bet internally sundowning started years ago. I was more referring to the playsets and massivepacks.
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But they've been doing this insane re-release before they announced the line dying down. Unless you mean the gimmick thing.
Announced, yes, but its been dying down for a long time at this point, and I bet internally sundowning started years ago. I was more referring to the playsets and massivepacks.
As I've never been much for playsets, I'll take your word on that. Though I do recall g3 having lots of 4-packs early on.
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With the marketing one character over and over again, they seem to only be marketing to that "first pony" purchase at any given time. A customer's first time ever purchasing a pony.
Which is weird.
Not too weird actually - because I think Hasbro considers MLP to be Disposable.
:..( They should face the facts and at least put a Recycle symbol ♻️ on them somewhere. :/
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With the marketing one character over and over again, they seem to only be marketing to that "first pony" purchase at any given time. A customer's first time ever purchasing a pony.
Which is weird.
Not too weird actually - because I think Hasbro considers MLP to be Disposable.
:..( They should face the facts and at least put a Recycle symbol ♻️ on them somewhere. :/
XD
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With the marketing one character over and over again, they seem to only be marketing to that "first pony" purchase at any given time. A customer's first time ever purchasing a pony.
Which is weird.
Not too weird actually - because I think Hasbro considers MLP to be Disposable.
:..( They should face the facts and at least put a Recycle symbol ♻️ on them somewhere. :/
Oh jeeze.
Just cut to the chase and make the special recycle ponies with recycling cutie marks.
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Like one of the episodes, too many Pinkie Pies! :lol:
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It's not that Hasbro isn't capable, it's that it is more profitable for them to shovel out this crap in assortments and focus on making sure that toy stores order as many pallets of product as possible. Once they get paid for the order (on the corporate side of things), they really could care less if kids bought them, or if some weirdo flung them into his wood splitter or if the pallet went straight to the landfill. That's the STORE'S problem now, and they have their own internal policies to ensure that they get the maximum profit from the item, or at least, that they don't take a potential loss by selling them too cheap, allowing the employees to have them, donating them, etc.
It's really a byproduct of our global marketplace and how retailers have evolved over the past 40 years more so than anything.
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It's not that Hasbro isn't capable, it's that it is more profitable for them to shovel out this crap in assortments and focus on making sure that toy stores order as many pallets of product as possible. Once they get paid for the order (on the corporate side of things), they really could care less if kids bought them, or if some weirdo flung them into his wood splitter or if the pallet went straight to the landfill. That's the STORE'S problem now, and they have their own internal policies to ensure that they get the maximum profit from the item, or at least, that they don't take a potential loss by selling them too cheap, allowing the employees to have them, donating them, etc.
It's really a byproduct of our global marketplace and how retailers have evolved over the past 40 years more so than anything.
Also a good point.
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i agree. i once bought a giant cardboard G4 castle just for the Princess Luna brushable.
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It's not that Hasbro isn't capable, it's that it is more profitable for them to shovel out this crap in assortments and focus on making sure that toy stores order as many pallets of product as possible. Once they get paid for the order (on the corporate side of things), they really could care less if kids bought them, or if some weirdo flung them into his wood splitter or if the pallet went straight to the landfill. That's the STORE'S problem now, and they have their own internal policies to ensure that they get the maximum profit from the item, or at least, that they don't take a potential loss by selling them too cheap, allowing the employees to have them, donating them, etc.
It's really a byproduct of our global marketplace and how retailers have evolved over the past 40 years more so than anything.
Also a good point.
Makes me so glad I grew up in the 80s.
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What if Hasbro is using new characters to sell mane 6?
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What if Hasbro is using new characters to sell mane 6?
*gasp* conspiracy theories!
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With the marketing one character over and over again, they seem to only be marketing to that "first pony" purchase at any given time. A customer's first time ever purchasing a pony.
Which is weird.
Not too weird actually - because I think Hasbro considers MLP to be Disposable.
:..( They should face the facts and at least put a Recycle symbol ♻️ on them somewhere. :/
Oh jeeze.
Just cut to the chase and make the special recycle ponies with recycling cutie marks.
Why stop there? Make the ponies out of biodegradable materials? Recyclable Recycling Ponies.
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Like one of the episodes, too many Pinkie Pies! :lol:
except all of the mane 6 took a dip in the Mirror Pool
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I would be thrilled with more diverse singles.
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I have not read through this whole thread for lack of time. So sorry if my post has been mentioned. I don't know I always kind of thought that perhaps since the common pony was not selling this was a way to get it sold by pairing it with one people want.
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I have not read through this whole thread for lack of time. So sorry if my post has been mentioned. I don't know I always kind of thought that perhaps since the common pony was not selling this was a way to get it sold by pairing it with one people want.
Good point.
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WELP I'm not sure why, but I'm saddly pretty sure it didn't sell well.
I'm looking a lot in my stores, and the ponies does not sell quick (we still have old old set in stores) and new things are long, long to come. Even the displays have been tinned a lot in most of the stores.
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I got Songbird Serenade in a single pack. I think it might have been a Target exclusive, though. Singles of Soarin' and Big Mac were a nice surprise. I am very frustrated by the hippogriff set, and the seapony queen being packaged with a giant playset.
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I got Songbird Serenade in a single pack. I think it might have been a Target exclusive, though. Singles of Soarin' and Big Mac were a nice surprise. I am very frustrated by the hippogriff set, and the seapony queen being packaged with a giant playset.
I am still chewing chairs over Haven Bay and the fact she was discounted in Walmart in that set in the end but none of them ever got to the UK's Asda chain. Another G4 I'll never get because she's too expensive (on account of the playset release) and never going to show up here anyway...
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I got Songbird Serenade in a single pack. I think it might have been a Target exclusive, though. Singles of Soarin' and Big Mac were a nice surprise. I am very frustrated by the hippogriff set, and the seapony queen being packaged with a giant playset.
I am still chewing chairs over Haven Bay and the fact she was discounted in Walmart in that set in the end but none of them ever got to the UK's Asda chain. Another G4 I'll never get because she's too expensive (on account of the playset release) and never going to show up here anyway...
I'm not pleased about Haven Bay either. And the fact that not one mcdonalds toy had any of the new movie characters, just shows how lazy Hasbro is.
Imagine how pretty, a pearly Haven Bay and Silver Stream would be? :3
Oh well. Least I'm saving money.
The Pearlies and baby merponies at least, were a good set. Heh. The baby merponies are likely the only g4 set that doesn't cram the mane suxx down people's throats.
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Same, I got so excited for them to release the hippogriff and seapony queen, and the other seaponies released with the playset. I didnt know they were gonna be the playset at the time so i had been waiting to see them at the store in two packs at least. They were the first new ponies in FOREVER, then when I saw the playset I legit RAN over squealing and the box was MASSIVEE the biggest playset I have ever seen ( l legit have so many mlp castles theres no way I would ever find room for it even if seaponies are my fave, and tbh its not like i would play with it but still GORGEOUS) and I started freaking out so hard until... I saw the price... and realized they only came in that pack... Such a bummer.. BUT this is what ebay is for XD I'll just buy all the ponies separate on there in a few years without having to spend a 100 bucks
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I got Songbird Serenade in a single pack. I think it might have been a Target exclusive, though. Singles of Soarin' and Big Mac were a nice surprise. I am very frustrated by the hippogriff set, and the seapony queen being packaged with a giant playset.
The regular single Songbird was a part of Wave 3 of the All About set, so she was available everywhere (or at least would have been if distribution for Waves 3 and 4 wasn't terrible). I got mine at Walmart.
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I have yet to find any hippogriffs yet, but then again local toystores barely have any mlp things left. hometowns toystore got the blindbag sized ones and mermaid pinkie pie.
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I got Songbird Serenade in a single pack. I think it might have been a Target exclusive, though. Singles of Soarin' and Big Mac were a nice surprise. I am very frustrated by the hippogriff set, and the seapony queen being packaged with a giant playset.
The regular single Songbird was a part of Wave 3 of the All About set, so she was available everywhere (or at least would have been if distribution for Waves 3 and 4 wasn't terrible). I got mine at Walmart.
Oh, okay! I wasn't sure, since I had never seen her anywhere else. Actually, aside from that one time I found her and bought her, I never saw the singles of her again...
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I've had a similar experience. I've never seen wave 3 and 4. The one exception was a single of Songbird Serenade that I found just the once and her bubble was crushed. I suspect she might have been a return.
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I still look at the ponies every time I go to the store for All About Tempest but I haven't seen her at all. Today the pony shelves were filled with Wave 1 Fluttershy, Big Mac and a couple of other ponies, but no Tempest. I think the close of Toys R Us means no baby Hippogriffs for me as I haven't seen those either and the pony section is getting very small at my Target and Walmart stores.
The baby seaponies were a great set. :lovey: We had 8 different characters, 4 poses and each one came with 3 accessories That being said I never found Wave 2 in stores and had to order them from the Hasbro Toy Shop.
Ponyfan
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I still haven't seen wave 3 or 4 in the UK. Or 1, but I know I missed that one. I found Tempest in Israel at the airport back in May...but not here.
I think baby Hippogriffs only happened in NZ and Singapore.
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I had seen a baby hippogriff in a Belgian supermarket a couple of months ago.
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With the marketing one character over and over again, they seem to only be marketing to that "first pony" purchase at any given time. A customer's first time ever purchasing a pony.
Which is weird.
Didn't Hasbro kind of indirectly confirm something along those lines? I don't remember when or how (press release, interview, convention?) but I do remember Hasbro stating that it was their intention of having the main characters front and center at all times, available to buy always for those who discover MLP mid-gen via the show. Anything non-mane 6 becomes instantly more relatable when a main character is tied to it. Which is fine, if they would cater to both groups - the potentially new fans and the established fans - by having 2 marketing models instead of alienating one of them.
As for G5, someone here was curious what they would look like: The leaked images would indicate that something very very similar to the Luna/Cadance design will become the standard pony model, set in a world more focused on adventures. If this means that the brushables will again be a little bigger, I'm fine with it :) Let's hope that the faces will be a little more defined this time, instead of flat round balloon-like surface we had in G4. A bit more bone structure showing, like with G1 and G3, would be great!
I for one am excited for that toy fair where a new gen is revealed for the first time.
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I can imagine how frustrating that would be. It wouldn't be worth the money to buy the entire box of ponies if you only wanted a certain one. I personally haven't bought ponies in stores in a while. I liked Friendship is Magic pretty much up until Season 3 with a few select episodes I enjoyed in season 3. For me personally it went downhill from there. I can't even watch the show now, because it seems it's post MLP The Movie now with characters I'm not familiar with. I don't have intentions of watching the movie so I would probably be lost.
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Hasbro has lost me a long time ago doing this stuff!
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haha good one :) Nightmare Muffin
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Pinkie Pie is MLP's Malibu Stacy. That's why.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOgZwk9rN8