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TCB => Trader & Shipping Support => Topic started by: Vertefae on October 09, 2014, 04:19:48 PM
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I feel like I need to post this, because a lot of people are having issues...
I bought some vintage strawberry shortcake dolls on August 15th. She claimed all this time they had been shipped. They were not shipped till Sept 22nd. They finally did arrive today. But I wish I would have known this was an ongoing problem. :(
http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,358963.0.html
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I actually came here just to post about this!
She is now patrolling the sales thread (which her buyers have been using to keep in contact with one another, let one another know if/when ponies arrived, etc.) and she's trying to tell people not to post there anymore.
I'm also concerned that she may try to leave her buyers negative feedback, in order to retaliate for us leaving her negative/neutral feedback. I'm sure there is an arena rule against this, but I've tried to get in touch with arena mods about her without success.
Is there any mod here who could look over the four-page sales thread fiasco in Nirvana Sales (so you can see exactly what has happened to us) and get back with me? I"m really concerned that she will retaliate with negative feedback, even though I paid right away and did everything I was supposed to do, as a buyer.
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I only posted in her sales thread so that everyone worrying about ponies they paid for would know what I am dealing with. Please refer to her sales thread to see the facts I refer too.
I have all my messages from her still because I always keep them for documentation purposes as well as stuff I sent to her. I posted a copy of her message to me depicting what she said about condition of pony and what I received.
Facts!
I also paid on 8/23
She said it was mailed on 9/5
When in fact it was mailed about a month after I paid with no care to the pony being mailed. Mailed 9/22( a month after I paid!)
I have asked for a partial refund including my shipping because condition is not as described & took her a month to mail even though I was told it was sooner and had asked for tracking before I even paid.
Took over a month to get tracking as well.
This I just want resolved.
Partial refund and then I will leave neutral feedback because I just feel neutral
Not happy
Not angry lashing out cuz I did get a pony I wanted even if I was lied to about condition and shipping
I am not an expert with dealing with ordeals because I hardly do because I have always always have had such positive loving members who take time to be honest and sell or trade with care and even will go the extra mile of throwing in a thank you note, wrapping pony in something protective before throwing it in a mailer, taping the mane and tail down, heck sometime members even throw in a little surprise extra.... In my case here I got lied to on numerous occassions and not even an apology note inside saying "I'm sorry it took me a month to mail this."
I escalated my case in PayPal telling them this:
1. Item not as described
2. Took a month to mail
Looking for partial refund with shipping refunded as well.
I am not and I repeat not an expert with dealing with such matter as I shouldn't have to be so all I knew to do was to tell Paypal a small refunded is all is needed. If they close it and say no refund and not for shipping either fine.
I did say partial
Not all refunded!
Let me make that clear.
Please look at pictures of pony and her message telling me no stains etc and tell me pony worth in that condition.
I'm at a loss and her asking me to close my Paypal case so she can refund me...
I don't know if that is a smart move
She lied to me twice
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Do not close your PayPal claim. You have no protection if you do
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MLP I have received your PM, as I was unaware of the situation till then. I am not a Nirvana Mod :( thus not being aware. I am currently talking it over with the other Mods. Please give us a bit to review. I am also dealing with a family issue, as my dad was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. So please excuse my delay.
Also in the future if you feel a thread needs attention immediately, there is a report to Moderator button.
I'm also concerned that she may try to leave her buyers negative feedback, in order to retaliate for us leaving her negative/neutral feedback. I'm sure there is an arena rule against this, but I've tried to get in touch with arena mods about her without success
This will not happen, it is not permitted. The retaliatory feedback will be removed.
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I'm so sorry to hear about your sick dad ponylady. Hugs.
I didn't know about a report to mod button because I too have never had such an ordeal.
I won't close my Paypal case and let me make it clear I don't want not do I expect a full refund cuz I did get a pony just not as was told for condition.
I expressed my concern and feeling in her sales and explained why and seeing a moderator looking into all my friends concerns make me feel better.
Ponylady you mods are the reason why this place works.
Thank you a million thanks to infinity!
May you dad get better and he will be in my prayers.
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I got your PM ponylady, thanks! I am also really sorry to hear about your dad. I will keep you in my thoughts. My family has been through something similar :(
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I hope all of this gets sorted out to satisfaction! :( *pony hugs to all*
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I paid my ponies on 23rd September, and she promised to ship them as soon as possible (I think she said "some time this weekend"). I've tried to contact her several times now without getting any respond/tracking. :( I'm getting really worried....
I hope she doesn't leave me any negative feedback since I paid the ponies immediately and did everything right.
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I bought a mint Fancy Pants baby with accessories, and they just arrived. Everything looks great! There wasn't any padding though, and I did tell her (nicely) that she should be more careful in the future. She apologized and said she didn't know, so lesson learned. Luckily nothing was damaged this time.
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I want to clarify again that no retaliatory feedback will be tolerated or allowed. It will immediately be deleted. So no one needs to worry about their feedback being tarnished over this mess.
I am making a list going by Sockthief's Sales thread on who is still owed and who did actually receive their ponies so far.
MLPforever~Mexican Yellow Prince and Mexican factory error firefly
angelponies~received but other issues :(
wizzer218~received but not as described
gypsyunicorn~received but not as described
Vertefae~received
ruhje~Mexican white Peppermint Crunch, Mexican Bowtie and Mexican Baby Quackers
kellyponyfeathers~received
cyberunicorn~cherries jubilee and one of the applejacks~received
Mirnyj~trade incomplete
LittleHoneyPie~received
Lady Starflower~2 Mexi Medleys and a Brazil Baby Cuddles
Can the folks who are still waiting please post to this thread on what they are owed exactly, so I can keep track? Also if you are in a transaction with her and have not yet posted, PLEASE DO! And do not close your cases out for any reason if you have not yet received your ponies. It's very dishonest for her to suggest that you do.
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I left a reply on that sales thread saying that I Pm'd sock Thief and you might be wondering if I brought something.. and what the status was. Just so you know, I actually decided not to buy.
Nothing negative, Marce was very friendly it was just a matter of price.
Sorry to all who had problems, but the mods are on it now so it looks like its getting sorted out.
xx
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I placed an order in early Sept that didn't get shipped until Sept 30th (she lied to me, saying she had shipped it weeks earlier.)
I am waiting for Mexican Yellow Prince and Mexican factory error firefly.
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*user removed. :blush:
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I am also very nervous about the condition of the ponies that will arrive. If she put up pictures of one pony and sold me a different one, all I can do is make note of it in my feedback, and notify the mods. Hope it doesn't happen though. :huh:
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I'm so glad to hear that some ponies arrived safely! I hope the rest does too and in good condition. :huh: The seller was very nice to me too and responded my messages quickly, but immediately when I told I've paid she stopped. I really want to believe she's just having a rough time and I understand that she may be busy atm. But I think that was a little odd... I just hate that I can't get any response from her, it's very frustrating.
I'm waiting for Mexican white Peppermint Crunch, Mexican Bowtie and Mexican Baby Quackers.
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I am going to quote Hathorcats post from Sockthiefs Sales thread.
I am also at this point going to point out, its most useful if only the people who have a problem with the OP get involved in the discussion along with the TS mods. Too many voices may add to the problems in getting this resolved. Also if you have a problem and have not mentioned it please do post in the thread in TS or pm ponylady or Ringlets.
Please respect this at this point, as all irrelevant posts will be deleted.
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SockThief contacted me and offered to sell me a couple of Polly Pocket sets off of my wishlist, and after we hashed out the details I sent payment on 28 august. After that I didn't hear anything, so I messaged to ask if she'd recieved the payment on 2 sept. On that day she replied the package had gone out the day before, so 1 september.
I didn't recieve anything for a while so I contacted ST about it, and when I got my tracking no it turned out that my package had gone out 23 september, 22 days after she had first said (nearly four weeks after payment). I asked her about this and she seemed to be confused as to what package was mine, asked me my name etc. But yes the tracking no she decided on showed my item to have shipped out on the 23rd, which the package also confirmed when it arrived.
I got my items, albeit after a long wait, and they really should have been better packaged, IMO. I have let ST know I am not happy with the service and she has asked me what she can do to make it better for me. All in all I waited four weeks for postage without any communication and was then told a lie (intentional or not) on top of that.
It seems that ST got in over her head a bit with her sales, but for what it's worth I think she will come trough for everyone involved.
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I actually am sort of in the middle of something with her myself... Earlier in the autumn we decided on a trade, five of her G3 ponies for an assortment of Moomin merchandise from me. Communication with her was great and she was (is) really nice to chat with in general. I decided to ship in two parts without tracking, because it was the cheapest option for me.
A month of waiting and we started to think of what went wrong. She claims she never received my items and that because of a mix-up at the office with the postage had the ponies returned back to her old address. She then said that it would be no problem for her to reship the ponies (Sept 20) "on Monday". Didn't hear from her since. :/ I didn't really have any problem believing her excuses and I don't want to startle her if she really is doing her best, but these threads emerging I'm starting to feel like not all is right with this after all.
I do admit that it was partly on me as I didn't pay for tracking, so I'm not really pointing fingers since there is no way for any of us to know what happened to my parcels. Just wanted to bring this out since it's related to this seller during this time frame.
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I bought cherries jubilee and one of the applejacks in the thread. But I also have contacted sockthief and she replied with in a good amount of time saying that the ponies have being posted.
I have not opened a case yet as we are still in a decent time frame for them to arrive for me. But I am keeping tabs on that as well.
If I have nothing in a week or so I will chase again. But as it is international I know it will take a bit longer.
To be honest my transaction has not actually warranted me to leave negative or neutral feed back so far
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Thanks everyone who has come forth. I know it's not easy to have to bring a bad situation to light. If we don't though then we can't all help each other to try and resolve the issue.
Sockthief if you are reading this, can you please contact me? I just would like to have details from your side. Please do not be scared, we are here to try and help you.
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I paid for two ponies Aug. 16 and have not received anything.
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I paid for two ponies Aug. 16 and have not received anything.
I paid the 15th and they arrived just last week. Hopefully yours show up this week
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Just want to mention that I've bought a lot of Mexican ponies through Ebay, and they normally take about a month to arrive. So expect shipping from Mexico to be fairly slow.
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It's not the shipping that slow sweetie, it's that she didn't even ship for a month to a month and a half.
Just want to mention that I've bought a lot of Mexican ponies through Ebay, and they normally take about a month to arrive. So expect shipping from Mexico to be fairly slow.
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Thanks for coming forward everyone :hug: I'm so sorry to hear that so many of you are having issues and that Sockthief may have gotten in a little over her head. we're here to help as Ponylady said.
I also want to add my apology for not replying sooner as I also am going through some very difficult real life problems and health issues right now. I'll be here as much as I can though and help as much as I can.
I'm glad that at least some of you are starting to receive your items :hug:
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My ponies did finally arrive today.
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Thank you littlehoneypie. I will update your status as received. :)
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It's not the shipping that slow sweetie, it's that she didn't even ship for a month to a month and a half.
Just want to mention that I've bought a lot of Mexican ponies through Ebay, and they normally take about a month to arrive. So expect shipping from Mexico to be fairly slow.
Yeah, I know, but slow international shipping on top of that makes it take even longer. Just wanted to make sure everyone knew. It might be some members' first time buying from Mexico.
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I don't even know if my ponies have been shipped or not. :( It's so frustrating because the seller doesn't reply my messages. Has anyone heard anything from her?
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Well I finally FINALLY got my Mexican firefly....only problem is her tail is purple!......not rainbow....couldn't see it in the picture :huh:........darn it anyway.....she never mentioned it wasn't her own tail....its a Mexican tail.....but not right one......now what!.....sigh -_-........oh this is just getting tiring. >_<
So I got my pony...but not as described
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I have a parcel to collect from my sorting office that I need to arrange for redelivery. it looks to be a mexican tracking number so I think they might have arrived. but I won't know for definite till saturday.
But to be fair if it is them then the time elapsed from payment to arrival is perfectly acceptable for international shipping so fingers crossed I will carry on not having problems.
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Mine took 54 days to get after payment :(
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It gets worse, guys.
http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,361696.0.html
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I received my pony today but I have a post in the Nirvana section to whether she was a re-hair or not because of her tail. I was told by some people that she was, but then I got new information on her from Skeen. Apparently she had tail rust and the gal cut her tail hair off to remove it. So she is legit afterall, her hair feels right but her tail is in bad shape. Skeen is making a post about it. I am so confused! :huh:
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Yeah, that's my Posey. I know after my seller posted those pics she flat-ironed the hair.
Here's what happened:
Several years ago a member named COTTONMEDLEY offered up a very rare Lilac Haired Posey for sale, and I bought her. At the time CM was a respected member, so when she requested I send money, in installments, via WesternUnion, I agreed though I didn't like it.
As soon as she got the last payment, she disappeared. All attempts at communication went ignored. And while she was ignoring me, she was busy scamming other members (who I will not name because I don't know if they're still here or not) via Facebook. The last I heard about her was last year, and she even had the gall to reach out to another member here to ask for the addresses of people she scammed so she could send out what she owed and make it right, but she never sent anything that time either.
Then, SockThief just happens to have this pony that she says she got in a lot from a seller in Mexico, and as you can see, this is the exact same pony I pain for, in full, in 2011. In digging, the name on SockThief's PP account is a Facebook friend of the seller I was initially scammed by.
I am gutted. Purely, utterly gutted. In all my years as a member, I have NEVER been scammed before. And to be scammed out of such a special pony makes it even worse. But that is my pony, no doubt, and since I do not get to have her SockThief owes me a lot of money, and a refund to angel for not describing her condition correctly.
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Sockthief seems to have completely disappeared I see.
Still no ponies for me. The tracking still says "origin post is preparing shipment". Seems she just gave me a random tracking # and never actually sent the ponies or something. My package was supposedly mailed on the 30th of September. Even with very slow service, it should still say something other than "Origin post is preparing shipment" by now.
I sincerely hope this scammer gets banned.
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To Skeen and everyone evolved I am just seriously in awww...right now. It's late here now but I am going to look over everything in the A.M. This is just plain ridiculous at this point and I can't believe someone would stoop this low..AGAIN!
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Oh my... gals I am so so sorry!
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Oh my god I dodged a bullet here when she never responded to me. Mlplover you bought factory error firefly right? Sorry I have a very fuzzy head today and forgot if it's you that bought it. I wanted her, but missed out. Did you see photos that proved it had no tail hole?? I never saw any photos that showed I was just going to trust her.
I'm so sorry everyone. :hug:
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There was a pic that showed no tail hole...I think. I can't remember, honestly. But at this point I don't even think I'll be getting my ponies at all. If I do, it wouldn't surprise me if it shows up with a tail hole or something.
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I'm so pissed right now, I want my *slight edit for language*ponies! :cry: I'm gonna cry.
Btw, the PayPal address she gave and where I paid, had a male name. Was it like this with everyone else? I'm just wondering... ugh I hate that my english is so poor and I can't really explain these things, but when I tried to open a dispute in PayPal, I received this message:
"We're sorry, but this transaction cannot be disputed because it is not a purchase of goods or services. Please contact the recipient directly."
Is it because I sent the money as a "gift" to the seller? Does this mean I can't have my money back? :/
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Oh, ruhje unfortunately paying by gift means you can't put in a dispute. Did Sock thief ask you to pay by gift? I'm so sorry. :hug: By the way your English seems fine to me.
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No, she didn't... :cry: I'm just new to this/here (this is my second time buying from Arena), and I just wanted to be kind and pay the fees, that's why I chose the gift option+ I trusted her. How incredibly stupid I was...
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Ruhje: I think your english is good, but if you feel like you cannot say something, i can try to help you to say it in english. :)
When you pay via paypal, it is quite normal that the seller pays the fees, so you have the protection, if something goes wrong. Also, if she has shipped the ponies late, like happened with someone else, it might take some time to come to Finland. Im keeping my fingers crossed.
Im sorry that all this is happening to you guys and i hope you get your ponies.
Skeen, im so sorry to read about this. I wish there would be a happy ending, this is such a big mess. :hug:
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No, she didn't... :cry: I'm just new to this/here (this is my second time buying from Arena), and I just wanted to be kind and pay the fees, that's why I chose the gift option+ I trusted her. How incredibly stupid I was...
If you mentioned in the paypal payment that it was a payment for something, then you may still be able to open a claim if you contact Paypal and explain the situation.
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Well I finally FINALLY got my Mexican firefly....only problem is her tail is purple!......not rainbow....couldn't see it in the picture :huh:........darn it anyway.....she never mentioned it wasn't her own tail....its a Mexican tail.....but not right one......now what!.....sigh -_-........oh this is just getting tiring. >_<
So I got my pony...but not as described
The pony had a purple tail in the pictures ;) I noticed it and was tempted to buy because her of that. I figured in the end it was just a tail swap so I left her :)
ETA she posted a picture of her in the "show me you" thread in nirvana
http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,338801.msg1251666.html#msg1251666
Love pkw xxx
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I'm so pissed right now, I want my *slight edit for language*ponies! :cry: I'm gonna cry.
Btw, the PayPal address she gave and where I paid, had a male name. Was it like this with everyone else? I'm just wondering... ugh I hate that my english is so poor and I can't really explain these things, but when I tried to open a dispute in PayPal, I received this message:
"We're sorry, but this transaction cannot be disputed because it is not a purchase of goods or services. Please contact the recipient directly."
Is it because I sent the money as a "gift" to the seller? Does this mean I can't have my money back? :/
yes I would say male
First name is Matias
Does that help
I would give full name but don't know if it would be proper to do so in here
Maybe PM me if you need name
My case is still escalated
She asked me to close it long ago
I escalated it telling Paypal item
Not as described and took over month for her to ship
I asked for shipping refund and a slight partial refund due to item not described
Status
Wait for her to respond to PayPal
She has until the 20th
I don't think she has yet
A shipping refund and perhaps $10 back on pony for paying for mint when it wasn't mint would be nice
I doubt I get any refund at all
Just get bad service and pony flawed
Whatever
I have yet to leave feedback
I trusted someone who had no feedback at the time
Clearly misjudgment on my part
Lesson learned here
Buy from those you trust and bought from before
Hope it works out for all but after hearing Skeen and Angels on that posey I just blown away
Sad sad day on this site if you ask me
Hugs to all
May it all get worked out
Post Merge: October 17, 2014, 10:26:37 AM
Adding: I checked my Paypal
Status of case and just realized there was a feature to change my case type for not as described
I did so
She now has until the 27th
It bought her more time
I also had to provide a link
So I have them one to here
Hopefully they can view Arena as I don't know...
I don't know how to provide them pictures but they haven't come out and asked
I also was able to put in an amount I felt fair to resolve issue
I said $17 (that is shipping refund and partial pony refund for being lied to on both and what I feel is fair.)
Any opinions on that
Now I still wait
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Is Sock-Thief also CottonMedley, or just a "friend"? Because I just find it a little coincidental that she hands over ponies to a "friend", then that same friend then gets on here, heads for the Nirvana forum and sells the exact same ponies that CottonMedley sold and ripped people off with (and is now ripping people off AGAIN.)
Something smells like yesterday's fish.
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I don't think they're the same person, no. But until I see evidence otherwise, I do think they're working together.
Really telling that SockThief hasn't been back since people started to question the ponies they bought from her... If I had the ability, I'd open a PP dispute rather than wait for her to show back up here.
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Yeah ST is not replying to me at all :(
This is crappy......I would at least like a partial refund >_<
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To all concerned - my mods and admin team are looking into this as we speak.
We have a lot of conflicting info and we are trying to clarify it.
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:shocked:
hugs all around, this entire situation is incredibly maddening!
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both my ponies have arrived. they both match the pictures in the sales thread marks and all.
I have also had their heads off (no matter how many times I type that it is always makes me feel weird) anyway original tails and not rehairs from what I can tell.
so apart from needing a bath and therapy for having nearly three weeks in an envelope and then being decapitated upon arrival everything seems in order for me.
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My tracking still says "pre shipment" on USPS.com, and says "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment."
She probably just printed out a shipping label, but never sent my ponies. I also sent payment as a gift, so I am unable to get my money back. I've messaged her, of course, but I am thinking I will never get a reply, or see the $80+ dollars I gave her.
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You can track the package in Mexico using this site
http://www.correosdemexico.gob.mx/English/Paginas/track.aspx
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Oh my, what an awful situation. :( I've got nothing to add other than offering condolences because I truly believe that stealing is an evil, ugly act. I'm so sorry, guys. :hug:
SockTheif, if you're reading this, PLEASE come back and make this right!
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Ugh I just read the thread in the Nirvana forum about the Posey and since I too am still waiting on oonies from SockThief I came here.
I purchased 2 Mexi Medleys and a Brazil Baby Cuddles from her and they still haven't arrived :(
Post Merge: October 20, 2014, 10:34:29 AM
I opened a dispute in paypal last night, SockThief responded with a tracking number (although the link I found to the Mexican tracking isn't working...can someone post it again?). Also she said that she hasn't been online due to her stepfather dying and having to travel to Chile. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that my ponies arrive, and everyone else's who is waiting.
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OK I talked to Sockthief for a good while today on facebook...and she feels really bad about all of this...and actually contacted me to send me some money back and apologize....which I appreciated a lot.......she is trying to fix everything but because she has been banned cannot really respond on here at all.....I told her that I will help as much as I can, ---->
and take it upon myself to post this letter from her...in her exact words
here is her letter to everyone that she owes or needs to fix things with ^.^
"SOCKTHIEF"
This is an explanation to all recent events, as well as updates.
First of all, I would like to say I apologize for the inconveniences. I have no wish or energy to bring in more drama. I had a family loss, I will say no more, since it is private info, and I don’t wish to share it.
Disclaimer: a member here has let me know some of you think I am a former scammer, since the Posey I sold Angelponies seems to be the same one that ex member scammed another member here with.
I am not connected to said former scammer, I am not a scammer and if the Posey is indeed the same one, I had no idea. I bought it from a salesman who says got Posey from a person who sold him his/her entire collection a while ago. The collection included around 250 ponies, nirvanas, g1s, g3s, accessories and even MIBs and MOCs.
That being said, given the fact that we are not many Mexican collectors, I don’t find it entirely unbelievable to have come across the same posey. I have come across childhood ponies that ended up in other people’s collections.
That is all I will say about this belief that connects me to a former scammer. Had I known, I would not have compromised my reputation here to make a few bucks. It seems ridiculous to me.
If it were indeed the same Posey, then I think the right thing to do would be to ship her to the member who bought her first in the past (Skeen?), and then refund angelponies with the full amount she paid for posey. This is, of course, my opinion.
To Angelponies, I would like to communicate with via email, since I can’t talk to her via pm anymore.
To Myrnij: I never got the Moomins, but I am still willing to ship my end, please let me know what you think. And if you would like to send a replacement pack, I would be very pleased.
To ruhje: Your tracking number is: RC597617790MX
To the Polish member (I cannot remember her username, but I remember she is Polish) your tracking number is: RC597617786MX
To SeashellnBubbles: I have a few rescued mexis from the flea market I will ship your way, please remind me of your address so you can have them. I want to go through with this transaction, since I picked the mexi baits for you, and I have no room for them in my collection.
To MLPforever: please remove the claim on paypal, I have already given you proof of shipping.
To LittleHoneyPie (I believe this is the username, sent the money from ***** account on paypal) if you have received your items, please remove the claim on Paypal, it is still there, and there is no reason for it to still be there, if you have received your end.
To Julie Dreyer, I have sent a paypal message with the tracking number for you, which is RC597617772MX
To Thunderwing, thanks for the communication and I am happy you got the wings.
To DalaPony, I am glad you got your ponies, thanks for letting me know.
To Little.Fox, I can’t refund you the shipping cost right now, since I am negative numbers on paypal. Still, the polly pockets you bought were In amazing condition, they are hard to find and usually cost more, plus I think I threw in the little extra doll for free. You got a hell of a deal for a small price, so refunding the shipping seems like it would not have been business for me at all. In the end, you got everything you wanted and for a small price, I repeat.
To angelponies, please get in contact with me via email.
My email is [email protected] this is the only way I can communicate with you now.
I am being as clear as I can. I will, however, say I am not a scammer, so stating that as a reason to ban me from this forum, is incorrect. I, however, accept it, but I don’t want to leave the pony community and stating I am a scammer is not good for me, and it seems unfair. That’s all I will say in my defense.
At most, I have shipped slowly, but people have been getting their stuff, hence, no reason to be banned, in my very humble opinion.
Anybody can contact me via email from now on. I will say, however, I would like communication to be polite and I will remind everybody my schedule is tight. I am taking this week off, however, I am emotionally exhausted and need some time off from work.
I would like to request to communicate with Sparkly_Sherbert from the UK, because I have not received my MOC Baby Nightsong, and I paid for her over a month ago.
Also, Kellyponyfeathers, I never received my ponies, so I would like if not a tracking number, proof that you shipped, please.
As you guys can see, I too, haven’t received ponies I purchased, and banning me from the forum also stops communication with my own purchases, I haven’t only sold ponies here, I have purchased too, and haven’t received stuff.
I also have the right to know about those buys. Please Kelly and sparkly sherbert get in touch with me via email, please.
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I don't have a claim open against her in paypal, since I couldn't open one. I sent her payment as a gift. Interesting that she doesn't seem to know who opened claims and who didn't.
She never gave me a shipping refund when I asked. Never responded, and my tracking still says "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment."
Interesting that now she is claiming a "family loss." First she claimed that she simply forgot to ship, then she said she got my pony mixed up with a different shipment, then she blamed a delivery boy, now she's saying family loss.
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Ok, I don't know how to get hold of you, SockThief...I'm very glad you remembered me! :lol: I'm not angry at all, just would have liked some more communication and the photos before you send them. If you'd like to send me an email, I think there's a link in my Profile...if not, search Kijiji (like Canadian Craig's List) in Ontario under Zoo Tours. You'll be able to send a response message to the ad and I'll get your email and we'll go from there :hug:
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Ok, I don't know how to get hold of you, SockThief...I'm very glad you remembered me! :lol: I'm not angry at all, just would have liked some more communication and the photos before you send them. If you'd like to send me an email, I think there's a link in my Profile...if not, search Kijiji (like Canadian Craig's List) in Ontario under Zoo Tours. You'll be able to send a response message to the ad and I'll get your email and we'll go from there :hug:
She got banned so u have to get a hold of her through email :)
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If it were indeed the same Posey, then I think the right thing to do would be to ship her to the member who bought her first in the past (Skeen?), and then refund angelponies with the full amount she paid for posey. This is, of course, my opinion.
Personally I think this is the right course of action as well.
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I have told her in her ban note that if she can get in touch with us ASAP we can reinstate her to get this sorted.
I find it oddly convenient that she gets back from Chile the same day she gets banned.
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I have told her in her ban note that if she can get in touch with us ASAP we can reinstate her to get this sorted.
I find it oddly convenient that she gets back from Chile the same day she gets banned.
I agree completely. These are the same tactics she has been using throughout this ordeal. Blaming one thing and then another, and referring to the whole thing as "drama."
As I said, she originally said she had shipped my pony, then she said it got mixed up, then she blamed a "delivery boy" for the bad shipping, and now she is saying she's had a "family loss." Plenty of us tried to get in contact before she was banned, and she never got back with us. I PMed her weeks ago asking for a shipping refund. Never got back with me. I emailed her today asking for a shipping refund. Haven't heard back, and I don't expect to.
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I honestly didn't think I would have to post this warning but I feel I have to. Please keep it civil, no matter what. I know this is the most bizarre situation that we have ever encountered. But we have to remain calm and find a solution ;)
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angelponies- just a word of warning from a prelaw student, knowingly keeping stolen goods can be considered a crime. I would get into contact with SockThief and request a full refund. It's not something I would personally want to get caught up in.
This is a different type of case and I do own her, I bought her. She is not stolen I sent Skeen money to be nice, she can take it or leave it, just in-case"if" this is the old posey from way back in 2011 for gosh sakes, no physical proof they are the same if we are getting all court like, it just might seem to look like her, there has to be more proof in a court of law, I went through seven years of court, and have a friend who is a lawyer, if I need an attorney, but thanks for the heads up.
Sockthief hasn't refunded me anything either anyways, not even for her tail that I opened a claim about, and if she still doesn't respond to it, I will win my case soon.
If she was originally sold to someone else and therefore is their property and then you purchase it, it is considered stolen goods. You've already admitted to it being the same pony. I know it sucks, but it's what is the right, moral and legal thing to do.
Ask your attorney friend. If you buy something which later turns out to be stolen what do you do.
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Sockthief has been TEMPORARILY unbanned so she can address this thread.
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It's not just $600 and Posey I lose. I made payments on Posey of $100 per week and since she was rare I sold other Nirvana I had in order to get her, how am I supposed to get those back????
I tried to help her out be sending her money that I don't even owe. The pony was never stolen from Skeen. What was stolen was her money. She never had the pony in her possession and it was not taken from her so it isn't technically stolen.
Thank you also to those who are messaging me words of support, you are very sweet :hug:
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Maybe if ST refunds you, you could rebuy them? I know it's an awful situation.
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Hi everybody,
I just read the whole thing, took me a while.
MLPforever: you can track your pack here: www.sepomex.gob.mx I am sorry it has taken so long. It's ok if you don't believe I shipped. When you get the ponies, you will see I did, so my conscience is clear.
On the retaliatory feedback thing, I really don't know who you guys think I am, but I see no need to anticipate yourselves to my actions. I have no need, wish or anything to leave negative feedback to "retaliate". If any of you feels I am a bad seller, that is what the feedback is for, right? To state your opinion on the transaction.
I will leave the feedback and it will be positive, why would it be otherwise?
As to the famous Posey, I really don't know what to do here.
I have talked to Stacy (angelponies) and she seems to be absolutely flustered. I feel this has escalated to levels I had never thought would be possible in a forum of this sort.
I really don't see the point in so much anger and negativity. And I think this has gotten way out of hand.
At first I thought the right thing was to refund angel and then ship the pony to Skeen. But at this point, I am unsure.
Angel did pay $600 for Posey and since the tail is not in excelent shape, she wanted a partial refund.
Then Skeen got in touch with me too, telling me to refund Stacy for the full $600. I at first thought that was the only way, but now I do not know, since in my eyes, Stacy also bought the pony.
Bullying and threats to Stacy seem to have taken place, she has refunded (?) Skeen with more than whay she paid for Posey in the past.
She felt so bad, she gave Posey away to a kid, since she doesn't want to have such stress.
What is next? I just need to understand.
Any helpful comments and aid from the mods would be appreciated.
Thanks
Marce
P.S. I want to stress the fact that Stacy has sold other nirvanas in order to get Posey. She spent a lot on Posey. I just want things to be solved and everyone to be as happy as possible.
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Sockthief how did this pony come into your possession?
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I do know also ....yes Stacy did give the Posey away.....and she did sell many rare ponies to buy her and now has none of them....I think its done...that's just my opinion....sucks for all parties involved .........
On a positive note.............
Me and SockThief are good!........all has been taken care of and I will be leaving SockThief positive feedback :)
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Loa,
A person gave me the email of a man/guy who sells all sorts of vintage toys and merch from the 80s mainly.
He claimed to have many ponies. He, however, said he had no camera or anything.
He said he had mexican ponies, as well as 80s ponies. He charged me an amount of money, literally, for a bunch of miscelaneous ponies. He claimed to have "very hard to find ponies". He gets ponies from different sorts: from dumps, to private owners, to old toy stores, etc. He says he used to sell ponies at flea markets years ago. He goes by the name Coque, which is short for Jorge, here in Mexico, as far as I know.
Since he didn't ask for a crazy amount, I agreed, at the risk of getting nothing, since he has no paypal and I sent him money via money order.
I posted about it weeks ago at the nirvana forum, in case people want to see the original post I made.
That is how I got Posey and other mexicans, as well as other random toys, like polly pocket cases, care bears, and other toys i know nothing about.
I donated most anything, but the ponies.
That's the story.
Marce
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I have since removed the very last part of this conversation between the two of you. Please if you have anything to say to each other at this point, that you please direct it to either Loa or I and we will handle it. The bickering back and forth is not going to help solve anything right now. I also need to go to bed. :snore:
I again will reiterate that I know this is a very stressful and awkward situation. We are working our hardest to help resolve this for both parties. Just be patient, please.
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I recall that thread and pushed for you to buy them. I read your post and feel that you're being truthful as to where you got the Posey from. I'm glad things are being put to rights, SockThief...I truly hope things get better for everyone involved. If you can, please PM me or send me an email back in the next couple of days, SockThief. Thanks all! :hug:
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To Little.Fox, I can’t refund you the shipping cost right now, since I am negative numbers on paypal. Still, the polly pockets you bought were In amazing condition, they are hard to find and usually cost more, plus I think I threw in the little extra doll for free. You got a hell of a deal for a small price, so refunding the shipping seems like it would not have been business for me at all. In the end, you got everything you wanted and for a small price, I repeat.
What you're saying isn't really true, or even relevant for that matter. I paid over the average price the sets are going for on eBay, to save myself buying from different sellers and because they were described as mint condition. But that isn't really the issue here. I wanted my postage cost refunded because you took four weeks to ship out, lied about the shipping date and didn't wrap the items securely. Either way, I have left honest feedback and consider this matter closed.
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To Little.Fox, I can’t refund you the shipping cost right now, since I am negative numbers on paypal. Still, the polly pockets you bought were In amazing condition, they are hard to find and usually cost more, plus I think I threw in the little extra doll for free. You got a hell of a deal for a small price, so refunding the shipping seems like it would not have been business for me at all. In the end, you got everything you wanted and for a small price, I repeat.
What you're saying isn't really true, or even relevant for that matter. I paid over the average price the sets are going for on eBay, to save myself buying from different sellers and because they were described as mint condition. But that isn't really the issue here. I wanted my postage cost refunded because you took four weeks to ship out, lied about the shipping date and didn't wrap the items securely. Either way, I have left honest feedback and consider this matter closed.
It's ok. I have collected Polly Pocket sets for over 10 years now and I know the price I gave you was more than fair, plus I included the locket doll you had been looking for for a while. I have shipped other sets in bubble pad envelopes and they have never broken, really. Had I put them in a box, the shipping cost would have doubled, at the very least.
Thank you for your buy. I hope you enjoy your sets, which is the main point. And thanks for your honest feedback.
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Please quit going back and editing previous posts folks ;)
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Update! Received my ponies today. My factory error firefly has had her head removed at some point--I'm worried she may be a re-hair, but I don't now how to check for that, since I don't re-hair ponies myself. I just know that the head being removed can be a sign of that. Can anyone tell me how to tell for sure?
The yellow Prince pony has more highlighter marks than the pictures showed (the flash hid a lot of the marks) and his head has been removed at some point as well.
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I dont think Mexican heads are glued, actually. None of mine are, anyway.
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Ah, good to know! That makes me feel better. Thanks Skeen!
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mlpforever, I do recall sockthief saying the prince had more marks than what the photos showed, I remembered this as i was considering buying it but decided against it due to the marks
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I've been watching this thread and waiting for an update because what happened here has deeply disturbed me.
I'm interested to know what happened in the case of the lilac haired posey?
Is it true that one user had to pay another member guilty money after she was felt so guilty about what happened with her being ripped off in the past, and no one has stepped in to stop that? For no exchange of ponies she paid another user 200 dollars for something she had nothing to do with...?
I also heard and read this user was also contacted multiple times outside the arena and harrassed about the pony she brought? It doesn't seem to be her fault..
I realise I may get a negative report or something for saying this, but I am worried about this and although this is one very weird isolated incident why is she not being supported? Why has no one stepped in any put a stop to this payment?
I ask as a frequent user of the arena, because I feel we deserve answers. I would hate if I was ever put in this situation and being bullied into paying someone money, or any other user, friends and people I care about.
Maybe this has been dealt with privately by the mods (which, I am hoping) but as the matter was so publicly discussed I think it's fair we know that all parties (original buyer, new seller and new buyer) have been spoken with and come to a resolution. I love the arena but this incident has really upset me and my trust in the system. I'm sure I am not the only person thinking or wanting to know what happened here, but maybe like myself worried to speak up and ask for fear of being shut down or reported for questioning.
*Addition*
I'm not saying I know all the information here, far from it. Nor do I want to start out an argument or say this is anyone's fault, I mean no disrespect to the mods or anyone involved. I just want to know that everyone was protected and we all have the right to feel safe here. The outside world can be so negative and I would love the peace of mind to know this is the safe fluffy place I think it to be.
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In the US, the law stipulates that if you purchase stolen property ( unknowingly or not), it still belongs to the original owner and has to be returned once found out. A person who purchased the stolen property then has the legal right to try to try to recover money from the person they bought from. So...pony belongs to Skeen...AP should get her money back...Sockthief will unfortunately be the one who loses.
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Unfortunately we are not the pony police. We are here to mediate and help offer solutions. What either party decides to do is up to them. We do not bully members into doing anything. If one of said parties was bullied off site that is also a matter that is out of our hands. We cant, wont and do not control anything outside the Arena.
Also Arena related matters are worked on by mods and members behind the scenes. The final resolution, if one is reached is not always posted for all to see. It's a private matter. Again we only offer solutions, we can't make people do anything they are not willing to do.
I realise I may get a negative report or something for saying this, but I am worried about this and although this is one very weird isolated incident why is she not being supported? Why has no one stepped in any put a stop to this payment?
We do not have access to people's personal Paypal accounts, so I am not sure what you mean by stopping the payment?
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As Ponylady said, there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes. We dont allow bullying either but we cant stop that kind of thing if it happens outside of the Arena. Please dont worry - we are all trying our best to resolve things and the help everyone involved, but this one is an usual and difficult situation for all the people involved - and its going to take more than the usual time and effort to sort this one out :hug:
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Since this is my reputation here, let me answer some questions.
Angelponies decided on her own to send me money for Posey. I didn't ask her to, and i didn't want her to. She doesn't owe me any money. I sent her payment back to her. So, to answer the question, NO, no one was forced to send any sort of payment. Angelponies did it without consulting anyone and was refunded.
For offsite contact, ap contacted me via Facebook, to which I replied once saying I wasn't going to speak to her outside the Arena. I haven't had other contact with her. If other people are contacting Angelponies outside the Arena, I am not aware of it.
A lot of information is being misrepresented and I am aware that most people only have one side of a very complicated story, but as everyone involved has been asked not to post about it, I won't rehash it again.
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I got refunded the shipping from PayPal plus $10 that I asked for in value on the pony after being told that baby dolphin had no marks, stains or any flaws which wasn't the case.
It took forever to get the fair amount refunded to me thru Paypal after being lied to on numerous occasions just like everyone else. I explained my side to PayPal and told them what was fair. I waited with Paypal to see seller respond to
Paypal and seller never did. I think Paypal sent me money because seller may of never responded but I'm not sure. I really don't know for sure. I will see if I can check but because as of today case is closed and past 180 days I m not sure what date to enter to check. Claim
Date or Paypal date. Ugh.
I have yet to leave feedback and just wish a mod could leave appropriate feedback for me because I don't know if I leave negative or neutral because I was asked by seller to close my claim. I really think it was Paypal who pulled through here.
Post Merge: October 26, 2014, 09:47:32 AM
Ok adding~
Figured out how to check
Status : Case was decided in my favor
PayPal sent out numerous emails to which it appears they never heard from this person who sold me this pony
It was Paypal who refunded me
I'm glad I didn't close the case for I told them about the flaws and how long it took to ship item being a month to ship
I just want moderators to know how my final status is and please advise me with feedback or leave it for me
I don't like leaving anything but positive and this wasn't positive experience
At least I got a pony even if it took forever and was flawed with stain I did get reimbursed thanks to Paypal and I feel the $18 for flaw and shipping was fair after all the lies
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Firstly, as I already mentioned I mean no disrespect to anyone. Skeen I am sorry it came across this way as I said previously I definitely do not know all the information, and I'm sorry that you lost out and my intention was to never ruin your reputation. I realise after re-reading what I wrote it could come across that way so please accept my apology.
I would think for such a high amount of money you report it to the police, bring your transaction records and anyone you spoke to online about it, there email addresses etc and print outs from your conversations here. The police do indeed have access to users various emails, Facebook accounts and paypal accounts and to which IP addresses and locations they were created with. And may indeed be able to track your bum seller. Maybe even work out if these two sales are related as was suspected. I would never suggest such a thing over a pony sale normally, but this is a lot of money involved. More than most people earn a week and what some people earn in a month.
Mods, I respect that this is a hard job you all do and is a completely voluntary position which you are only paid in love, so you indeed have all my respect. I am sorry if it came across in another way, all I asked it what was being done, as it seem to have been forgotten about and for such a public and high amount of money to go awry is of course really bad for everyone involved. **Addition, thankyou for clearing that you are doing what you can.
I've said what I feel I had to, because I felt what was going on wasn't right. I'm going to back out of this one and leave it in your capable hands. Good luck everypony.
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I just want moderators to know how my final status is and please advise me with feedback or leave it for me
We do not leave feedback for members regarding their transactions. This is something that is your responsibility. My advice is to be honest. If this was not a positive experience then it does not deserve a positive rating.
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I would like to put to rest the rumour being spread that Angelponies was forced, bullied or coerced into sending Skeen money.
These are the messages exchanged in this thread previously, but removed as inflammotory and due to the fact that these posts were being edited.
I don't think it matters who SockThief is. The point is the Posey is the same, and she's mine. I know it sucks. I've had 3 years of it sucking. It doesn't matter who ST got her from, or who that person got her from. It's still my Posey and always has been. If other people have had her all this time they've had my stolen pony.
I offered to send you the money that you said you paid for her 3 years ago in 2011, $180. You would have no idea if I didn't point it out in the first place, it was that same Posey. You could have seen when she was up for auction and told Sockthief then, you didn't. I paid $600 for her. I am willing to pay extra on her and make is $780 to be nice, so you have your money back, and are not out pony and money, when it isn't even MY FAULT. I don't even have to pay anything for her and Posey is mine, a I recall I paid for her and she is on my shelf. I am not going to be bullied or guilted into anything I am sorry.
Good grief then whatever you "bought" her for send me a bill, you had told me $180. I am not giving up my pony. I bought her, I own her. You are acting as if I knew and as if I am the one who stole her. I am not. I offered a refund not to "Buy you off" how stupid, I did it to be nice and now this has just gotten ridiculous. I have no reason to "buy you off" grow up. Being nasty just makes me want to hang onto her all the more. :mad: if you don't at least want what you lost on her back in 2011 then don't take it. But don't accuse me of trying to buy you off. Thats freakin messed up when I don't owe you anything to begin with.
Sockthief hasn't refunded me anything as of yet. Not even the disputed amount for her tail that I had to open a claim on. It isn't Sockthiefs decision anyways, it's mine.
And furthermore, I had "thought" about taking a refund and sending you the pony too, I felt bad for you, I told Sockthief that, also knowing that she will probably be one pony I wont find again ,it was a lot to think on. But when people are nasty to me, and treat me the way you have, with the PM of " It's mine" and insinuating how dare I think of keeping her, I will absolutely not be bullied. :mad: Being humble about things and maybe hmm being more "nice" gets people a lot further with me, as I am a kind person, but I don't like being pushed or guilted into things. :yucky:
It also wasn't right for you to contact Sockthief through Facebook and tell her to refund me in full asap, so you would have the right to claim Posey. That is just plain messed up too. :mad:
Wait, you refunded me? I don't want you to refund me, I want Posey. I will be refusing this payment. Do not resend it.
I have bolded for clarity.
Angelponies has asked to be banned from the Arena, as she no longer wishes to be involved with us or with the membership here.
We have not done so, as she has requested that she be banned in the past, and then requested it to be removed again.
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Gosh I don't want to post anymore about this but I do want to clarify I had asked Loa to "disable" my account, I never once asked to be "banned", there is a difference there. I asked because I have had it with this Posey thing. I have had tons of arena people message me with their support and that is greatly appreciated, you all know who you are ;)
Another reason that I decided to leave is that I also sadly had found out about a little board that I "cannot name here," some arena members so kindly directed me to it and I just deem it inappropriate ( In my humble opinion) for certain folks to discuss arena matters there when they are supposed to be a "nuetral" party involved in my stuff.
I had asked Loa to "disable" my account before a couple years back I believe, and that was because I was buying too many ponies and my husband was out of work and we were trying to save money. I could not stay off of the Nirvana Sales board as I was addicted, and so I asked Loa to disable my account for awhile so I would not be tempted to buy Nirvana, in which case she kindly did. After my hubby got back to work, I had asked her to reinstate my account so I could start collecting again and she did for me. With all that being said, I am considering the Posey thing done with on my end. This is a weird thing that I have never experienced before in my life, I would never even wish it even on my worst enemy as it is stresfull and people are torn right down the middle, Skeen has folks on her side and I have folks on mine. But I decided to leave the arena from posting, and if anyone needs to get ahold of me about sales that we are in, I will get the PM in my email and reply but as for posting stuff, I think this is the last of it. But I will answer my emails. No worries there :)
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Why am I being edited??!!...this is ridiculous.
Post Merge: October 26, 2014, 04:52:19 PM
I said nothing bad or wrong :(
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Gosh I don't want to post anymore about this but I do want to clarify I had asked Loa to "disable" my account, I never once asked to be "banned", there is a difference there.
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But I decided to leave the arena from posting, and if anyone needs to get ahold of me about sales that we are in, I will get the PM in my email and reply but as for posting stuff, I think this is the last of it. But I will answer my emails. No worries there :)
Banning and disabling an account are the exact same thing, regardless of what you call it. Your account can't be used, period. That includes receiving emails or PMs.
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I just want moderators to know how my final status is and please advise me with feedback or leave it for me
We do not leave feedback for members regarding their transactions. This is something that is your responsibility. My advice is to be honest. If this was not a positive experience then it does not deserve a positive rating.
I was just wanting to leave appropriate feedback so I was looki g for guidance here because the entire thing has left a bad taste in my mouth because no matter what it's about no one likes being lied to and clearly a lot of us were lied to. Personally I don't lie because I hate being lied to and on e people do it I no longer trust them. Trust first. SockThief clearly doesn't value trust. Trust is something I give to everyone freely and once its been broken guess what it needs to be earned back. Lies means we are not worthy of the truth!
I feel for all in this thread.
I don't want to leave inappropriate feedback this I don't want to leave too harsh either. I do my best to put the stress and feelings out of feedback. It's easy to get angry and put that in there but feelings should be left out so I posted feedback based on facts only; thus neutral I guess is correct feedback in my case because even though I was lied to one 2 things and Paypal fixed it for me fairly when she couldn't respond to them in the end I still did get a pony.
I hope that is fair to all.
I just want to see all this drama resolved for all and the lies need to stop and hopefully SockThief realizes that.
Honesty and quit with the excuses because we all have busy lives and can relate and be sympathetic when not being lied to!
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I am going to answer your question snwbear that has since been edited by you. The thread was not locked because the original thread was about sockthief, not angelponies and Skeen. There are still outstanding members that are waiting on items and waiting for a resolution from her. Thus angelponies and Skeen's comments previously being removed and them being asked to not post.
I also want to point out that the Mods here have never supported/sided with either party on the matter. I am not sure where this was dreamt up. We saw both sides and we saw by the posts that we removed that neither party was going to budge on the matter. There was no need for them to keep bickering back and forth. If you want the truth, yes we questioned whether the pony was actually given away, I am sure we weren't the only ones. Besides for that we were trying to help mediate for the three of them.
This whole thing with members siding up against one another is also ridiculous. The PM'ing behind the scenes and complaining about one another will divide a community in a heartbeat. We are for the most part here, grown men and women and should display that in our actions. There is nothing wrong with supporting someone when they need it but the trash talk going on doesn't help anyone.
Also I want it to be known that the above board mentioned is no way affiliated with the Arena. It also has an over PG13 content. Thus it not being allowed to be talked about here. The said board has been in existence for a very long time, so it's nothing new. I want to point that out because it seems like every time someone discovers it for the first time, everyone is up in arms about it. Yes it does exist and always will. As far as Mods being members, well yes most of us are because there are times we ourselves have defend our own actions. It after all is why the board itself exists. I believe most long time members know this already. Honestly I have seen worse doings on FB than there in past couple years.
*sigh*
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I got refunded the shipping from PayPal plus $10 that I asked for in value on the pony after being told that baby dolphin had no marks, stains or any flaws which wasn't the case.
It took forever to get the fair amount refunded to me thru Paypal after being lied to on numerous occasions just like everyone else. I explained my side to PayPal and told them what was fair. I waited with Paypal to see seller respond to
Paypal and seller never did. I think Paypal sent me money because seller may of never responded but I'm not sure. I really don't know for sure. I will see if I can check but because as of today case is closed and past 180 days I m not sure what date to enter to check. Claim
Date or Paypal date. Ugh.
I have yet to leave feedback and just wish a mod could leave appropriate feedback for me because I don't know if I leave negative or neutral because I was asked by seller to close my claim. I really think it was Paypal who pulled through here.
Post Merge: October 26, 2014, 09:47:32 AM
Ok adding~
Figured out how to check
Status : Case was decided in my favor
PayPal sent out numerous emails to which it appears they never heard from this person who sold me this pony
It was Paypal who refunded me
I'm glad I didn't close the case for I told them about the flaws and how long it took to ship item being a month to ship
I just want moderators to know how my final status is and please advise me with feedback or leave it for me
I don't like leaving anything but positive and this wasn't positive experience
At least I got a pony even if it took forever and was flawed with stain I did get reimbursed thanks to Paypal and I feel the $18 for flaw and shipping was fair after all the lies
It was never Paypal who refunded you*. Once my paypal balance stopped being negative, I refunded you the money, like I had explained. Please double check before you say anything. Thanx
Post Merge: October 27, 2014, 07:46:00 AM
I hope this can be sorted out. I am still to hear from the mods to tell me what they have decided.
Marce
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SockThief you can be the one to "claim"
You did right but my closed case in PayPal reads for Status: Case decided in my favor! I will receive refund
( may I add Paypal was told the amount and I dealt with them and not you after you asked for me to close the case and I watched the status of them constantly trying to email)
I see the refund through the Paypal case details
I find it odd the status would say closed in my favor and I am getting a refund
PayPal says that! Then after the refund they close the case.
You've lied to many times and if you need me to take a screen shot and upload it I will of what the PayPal status reads
If there is a way that you sent me money first and you closed case the status would mention that and not Case decided in my favor!
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SockThief you can be the one to "claim"
You did right but my closed case in PayPal reads for Status: Case decided in my favor! I will receive refund
( may I add Paypal was told the amount and I dealt with them and not you after you asked for me to close the case and I watched the status of them constantly trying to email)
I see the refund through the Paypal case details
I find it odd the status would say closed in my favor and I am getting a refund
PayPal says that! Then after the refund they close the case.
You've lied to many times and if you need me to take a screen shot and upload it I will of what the PayPal status reads
If there is a way that you sent me money first and you closed case the status would mention that and not Case decided in my favor!
What I am saying is, if I don't authorize it, Paypal can't just take the money. I personally typed the 17 USD amount and clicked on Send. I was the one to refund you, not Paypal.
Paypal gave me many options, including sending you more than 17 USD, just 17 USD or a full refund and ask you for the pony back. I chose the option of 17 USD, cause that is what you thought was fair.
If I didn't do it before it was because my Paypal balance was in red numbers aka negative, and you can't refund anything if the balance is negative. I had to wait till other claims were lifted to be positive again and to refund you. But it was me who authorized the refund personally.
I hope you can understand what I just wrote. You have already left feedback for me, what else do you need to consider this closed?
Marce
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Actually, paypal CAN just take your money if there is a claim against you. That's why people open claims--to get refunds from people who won't give them willingly.
If your debit card or bank account is hooked up to your paypal account, then that money can be taken from either of those places, no matter what your actual "paypal balance" is. Paypal balance is not most people's only funding source who use paypal.
Also, there is no such thing as a negative paypal balance. You either have money, or no money. Everyone here uses paypal, we all know how paypal works, please stop telling yet more lies.
Gypsyunicorn, I am glad you got your refund and sorry you are having to endure more ridiculousness from Sockthief. I would just walk away at this point. Everyone now knows she is dishonest--there is nothing more we can do.
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Actually, paypal CAN just take your money if there is a claim against you. That's why people open claims--to get refunds from people who won't give them willingly.
If your debit card or bank account is hooked up to your paypal account, then that money can be taken from either of those places, no matter what your actual "paypal balance" is. Paypal balance is not most people's only funding source who use paypal.
Ok, thanks for the information. It wasn't like that in this case. That is all I am saying. Paypal did NOT take the money, I authorized and sent it myself as soon as I had a positive balance.
Post Merge: October 27, 2014, 09:49:07 AM
Actually, paypal CAN just take your money if there is a claim against you. That's why people open claims--to get refunds from people who won't give them willingly.
If your debit card or bank account is hooked up to your paypal account, then that money can be taken from either of those places, no matter what your actual "paypal balance" is. Paypal balance is not most people's only funding source who use paypal.
Also, there is no such thing as a negative paypal balance. You either have money, or no money. Everyone here uses paypal, we all know how paypal works, please stop telling yet more lies.
Gypsyunicorn, I am glad you got your refund and sorry you are having to endure more ridiculousness from Sockthief. I would just walk away at this point. Everyone now knows she is dishonest--there is nothing more we can do.
Yes, you can be in negative numbers. They look red and have a - sign aka negative. I am not lying, it was like that.
It looks like this:
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--D-dkJ-aX--/18mqgzzf3qabmpng.png
That image isn't mine, it is to give an example.
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Not trying to take sides here at all, I am a neutral party but I have to say that paypal can be in negative numbers, paypal is slightly different in each country and so has different ways of managing money and sending money.
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Not trying to take sides here at all, I am a neutral party but I have to say that paypal can be in negative numbers, paypal is slightly different in each country and so has different ways of managing money and sending money.
Agreed ....a long time ago I had a mix up and I also had negative and I live in U.S.
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First of all it wasn't $17 I was refunded!
So why are you claiming it was $17?
If you refunded me and are stating that why don't you say the amount correctly?
Thank you MLPforever
Hugs
Yes I'm done wasting my time with someone who lies
Post Merge: October 27, 2014, 06:40:17 PM
Oh and to add to my prof I do have an email from Paypal
Stating it was from them:
Below is copy of email and out of privacy and after having some issues with Breyer website being hacked I'm omitting some of the case numbers and the amount that was issued because it wasn't the amount you stated!
Hello J Newman,
We have concluded our investigation into your claim.
Seller's Name: Matías
Seller's Email: cuervo8
Seller's Transaction ID: 77P70097
Transaction Date: Aug 22, 2014
Transaction Amount: -$61.50 USD
Your Transaction ID: 17H874449
Case Number: PP-003-439-
Buyer's Transaction ID: 17H87444
You have received a refund via PayPal in the amount of $1?.00 USD.
Sincerely,
Protection Services Department
Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you
will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account
and click the Help link in the top right corner of any PayPal page.
PPID PP639 - d2c2966a
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This is what I have. If you are still unhappy, then send me Baby Dolphin and I will refund you fully.
Enviado a:
J Newman
Cantidad total:
$18.00 USD
Importe de la comisión:
$0.81 USD
Importe neto:
$17.19 USD
Fecha:
24/10/2014
Hora:
11:20:20 GMT-05:00
Estado:
Completado
It says Completed and the total amount being of $17.19
Marce
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SockThief, I still haven't received a message or any photos from you. Could you please just refund me my money that I sent you? It's beyond the 45 day limit now, but I really don't feel happy about this situation anymore. If you have pictures or if you've posted them already, please get in touch with me via email. I'm sorry this has turned out as it has, but I can wait no longer :(
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I finally received my ponies, and they're all in good condition. I'm glad. :) Thank you, SockThief.
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Thanks for the updates - I'm so glad things have turned out well for you ruhje :hug: :bigups: I hope that others involved in this thread/situation will have similar happy endings to their transactions as well.
Please continue to keep us informed everyone else who is involved :)
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I wanted to make a quick update about the Posey situation between Skeen and I. I will try to keep it short, Skeen, Sockthief and myself had talked things over after everyone had cooled down, as things got so crazy and heated so fast from every angle! :faint: :lookround: :freak:
I had decided that I was going to go ahead and send the pony to Skeen after Sock refunded me the $600 I paid for her and Skeen was going to help me watch for the Nirvana ponies that I had sold to buy her. ST agreed to it and was going to send me payments for the pony, however, her boyfriend had found out about it and told her no because of the amount of money involved in refunding me. He has the say so over the finances and she apologized and said she tried to talk to him about it and had said that she even got into an argument with him about it, :huh: but it is just too much money for him to refund me, and he doesn't believe he should have to either.
So with that being said, since ST can't refund me, we were back where we started, but after talking to Skeen about the whole thing, the one thing Skeen asks of me is that I never sell Posey to anyone else. I have promised her that I am going to hang onto her so that she doesn't bounce around any more in the future. :hug: :blush:
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Edit: 12/09 I knew how much that Skeen wanted a special pony but can't afford big purchases so I gave her my Venezuela Lickity Split, I felt bad that she didn't have a special pony. This pony was given to me by a good friend for helping with sales, so I only had my time invested into her. I thought Skeen would love her and she does :)
This gorgeous lady now lives with Skeen :satisfied:
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I had the box for her too ^.^
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This is really none of my business, but I have been following this thread, and I have a suggestion at this juncture...
Would you two (Skeen and angleponies) consider joint custody? Like when parents get divorced (a tumultuous and emotional battle, not unlike this situation) both parents get their court-appointed time with their children, with whom they have a substantial investment (again like this situation). For example, one party gets to keep and display Posey for a predetermined length of time (like one year or six months) then they send her to the other to have and display. Unless you are concerned about her getting lost in the mail, this might be a suitable arrangement.
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*editing* Please do not stir the pot. If they have come to a resolution, then it is not for us to judge or ask questions. :heart: PL
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*edited* for reasons above. :(
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I wanted to make a quick update about the Posey situation between Skeen and I. I will try to keep it short, Skeen, Sockthief and myself had talked things over after everyone had cooled down, as things got so crazy and heated so fast from every angle! :faint: :lookround: :freak:
I had decided that I was going to go ahead and send the pony to Skeen after Sock refunded me the $600 I paid for her and Skeen was going to help me watch for the Nirvana ponies that I had sold to buy her. ST agreed to it and was going to send me payments for the pony, however, her boyfriend had found out about it and told her no because of the amount of money involved in refunding me. He has the say so over the finances and she apologized and said she tried to talk to him about it and had said that she even got into an argument with him about it, :huh: but it is just too much money for him to refund me, and he doesn't believe he should have to either.
So with that being said, since ST can't refund me, we were back where we started, but after talking to Skeen about the whole thing, the one thing Skeen asks of me is that I never sell Posey to anyone else. I have promised her that I am going to hang onto her so that she doesn't bounce around any more in the future. :hug: :blush:
After the long battle I have read between you two, I can honestly say I am glad you and Skeen have reached that final resolution.
As an AVID Nirvana collector for the past 10 years, this is certainly one of the most heartbreaking pony dilemmas I have read about. I don't often express my personal feelings on the boards, but in this case, I must.
Angelponies AND Skeen, my DEEPEST empathy goes out to BOTH of you over this - it is a situation that was just not going to have a happy ending for anyone involved.
However, this outcome is the right one in my opinion. Personal feelings about traders and sellers involved aside, no one in THIS instance was scammed.
The opportunity to buy this pony was available to everyone. It was no one's ill-will that one collector beat another to the punch. Angelponies paid EXORBITANTLY well for this pony - to the point where I personally would have questioned that amount. And the seller (regardless of whether or not she knew of the prior situation with Skeen and Cottonmedley), was not holding Skeen's original money, NOR was she benefitting from the scam that took place many years ago (EXCEPT to the degree she had the exact pony - but there is no proof that she was knowledgeable of this).
In a court of law, given that Skeen never took possession of the pony, the truth is that what was really stolen from her, was the original money she paid. It is a harder pill to swallow because it is a pony and the love we collectors attach to these horses is sometimes unimaginable, but reality is that there is no proof that Cottonmedley did not simply have pictures she was using to defraud Skeen, rather than an actual pony. So it cannot be said with real certainty that it is in fact this pony that belongs to Skeen as much as it is the money she paid and lost.
Therefore, it is no one's responsibility (or moral obligation) to hand over a pony like that that was bought and paid for. It might have been Cottonmedleys responsibilty, but not Socktheif's and not Angelponies'.
That would have been punishing 2 undeserving people for what one person did many years ago.
I am sure some of you will want to hang me for this post, but I think we all need to put ourselves in other people's shoes at times.
I do agree, though, 1000%, that Angelponies, should you EVER feel the need to sell this pony, you should give Skeen first opportunity, and (if it were me in your shoes) NOT expect to profit from it, but rather take a pretty hefty, charitable loss.
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Still have not received any ponies, pictures, or word from SockThief....I fear I have been scammed :(
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I got my ponies. Took awhile but the came and were as described.
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Still have not received any ponies, pictures, or word from SockThief....I fear I have been scammed :(
Oh your kidding :( I honestly thought she would make good on everyone's transactions. When was the last time you tried to make contact Seashell?
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I spoke to her a couple weeks ago through email...she said she would send photos on the Saturday, then ship on Monday. No pictures, no package :(
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stockthief.