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Title: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on June 21, 2021, 04:01:20 PM
I can't actually link to the eggy daily site but here's a quote:
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SAN DIEGO, CA (June 21, 2021) – Since its very inception in 2012, the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic monthly comic book series from IDW has captured the hearts and minds of filly fans everywhere. Now, after almost a decade of publication, we bid a fond farewell to Friendship is Magic with September’s issue #102, the oversized conclusion of the official “Season 10” storyline that picked up where the beloved animated series left off.
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But friends, never fear! Twilight Sparkle, Pinkie Pie, Applejack, Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash, and Rarity will return in a new series beginning in October: My Little Pony: Generations! Written by Casey Gilly and illustrated by Michela Cacciatore, the new five-issue miniseries will see the Ponies of two separate generations collide, as the familiar faces from Friendship is Magic must call upon the original G1 Ponies of the 1980s for help against a new witch threat erupting from the Volcano of Doom!
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My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic #102, by longtime contributors Jeremy Whitley and Andy Price, delivers the long-awaited climax of the “Season 10” story arc. With the Knights of Order launching an all-out assault on Equestria, the Mane 6 must face a foe singularly focused on capturing the Elements of Harmony. It’s a good thing that they have a lot of friends, old and new, upon whom they can rely!
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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Mermaid on June 21, 2021, 04:21:14 PM
Oh neat! I can’t wait to read these! Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: MJNSEIFER on June 21, 2021, 04:33:43 PM
I'm positive about this - for one thing it seems to be by someone who grew up with G1 (unless I misread that part) so it's not like they're just throwing in G1s because they think that's what people would want, and they'll at least be trying to be faithful and/or respectful.

I know not everyone here likes the Concept Six being treated as the G1 "Mane Cast", because they weren't - they're just what Lauren would have used, but it kind of makes sense to use them if this is the end of the G4 comic, because, they're basically the G1 ponies that led up to the creation of the Mane Six, so... they've basically gone full circle, or something...?  I dunno, I think it's kind of beautiful.   :lovey:

I also find it a nice touch that they appear to be using Sparkler and Glory (unless I'm misunderstanding the left picture) - Sparkler is the official "Concept Rarity" (i.e. the pony Lauren would have used if she could have used the G1s), but she also got Rarity's design from Glory, so she kind of part of this as well... the unofficial "Concept Seventh" if you like, so if that's what they're doing.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 21, 2021, 05:00:07 PM
Humm okay. But will they actually get the ponies personalities correctly? Or will they be carbon copies of the Mane Suxx? 

At least both are in their respective styles.

Will they include ponies who were actually more likely to show up, like Wind Whistler,  Fizzy, Truly, Galaxy, and Shady? Or are they gonna stick with Lauren's inspirational misunderstanding? Nm that roughly half those ponies were G3 based and swapped.

Will the FiM writers actually have a fair balance,  or are they just gonna use it to take unnecessary and baseless potshots at MLP n Friends to support supposed FiM superiority?

 I'll wait and see, because I haven't been charmed by Hasbro writer's innapropriate, immature, brony humor concerning past generations.

What's the Eggy Daily?  :lol:
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Maddie on June 21, 2021, 05:14:16 PM
I’m not sure how I feel about it, but I’m interested enough I do want to read it.  :lol:
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 21, 2021, 05:36:06 PM
Why are they including these ponies, instead of the ones from the movie? (Idk if the volcano witches were featured in the original comics or not, sorry in advance.) The art style is cute, I'll give em that much. Looks a bit like Tales though for some reason. I almost thought that was Melody for a moment.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: ridi on June 21, 2021, 05:36:56 PM
The art of the G1 ponies is very cute and I'm always excited to see new media featuring them but... as I am not a fan of the G4 cast, I would have liked them to stay far, far away from G1! I don't have high hopes for how the G1 characters will be portrayed. I really hope they won't give them the personalities Faust assigned them and I'm kind of bothered they chose those 6 ponies in the first place as they didn't exactly have much personality in the cartoon (aside from Surprise).
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: bladed on June 21, 2021, 05:43:34 PM
Why are they including these ponies, instead of the ones from the movie? (Idk if the volcano witches were featured in the original comics or not, sorry in advance.) The art style is cute, I'll give em that much. Looks a bit like Tales though for some reason. I almost thought that was Melody for a moment.
keep in mind that you're only seeing the cover lol, maybe there'll be more inside. it's a bit early to jump on the negativity.
i don't really have an issue with the gen 1 "predecessors" being a thing like some people seem to, it was just laurens preference after all. can't be helped if it leads to misunderstandings from people who dont do research. the comics are usually decent (at least the ones i've read) so we'll see how it goes.

on a positive note, the third cover with the two twilights is adorable :)
I'm positive about this - for one thing it seems to be by someone who grew up with G1 (unless I misread that part) so it's not like they're just throwing in G1s because they think that's what people would want, and they'll at least be trying to be faithful and/or respectful.

I know not everyone here likes the Concept Six being treated as the G1 "Mane Cast", because they weren't - they're just what Lauren would have used, but it kind of makes sense to use them if this is the end of the G4 comic, because, they're basically the G1 ponies that led up to the creation of the Mane Six, so... they've basically gone full circle, or something...?  I dunno, I think it's kind of beautiful.   :lovey:

I also find it a nice touch that they appear to be using Sparkler and Glory (unless I'm misunderstanding the left picture) - Sparkler is the official "Concept Rarity" (i.e. the pony Lauren would have used if she could have used the G1s), but she also got Rarity's design from Glory, so she kind of part of this as well... the unofficial "Concept Seventh" if you like, so if that's what they're doing.
i feel like they wont include both because it'd be unbalanced, it might just be miscommunications from the artists? i'll be pleasantly surprised if they do.

also, anyone else hope that they include other gen references in here too?
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Snapdragon on June 21, 2021, 05:49:37 PM
Ohhhh gosh!! Those covers are gorgeous, I hope the story is fun too!! I haven't kept up with the MLP comics very well, after I bought the first five or so! :blush: I guess I need to get back into it!
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: SpacePinto on June 21, 2021, 06:22:47 PM
I have bad feelings about that...
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 21, 2021, 06:36:42 PM
That looks like Lofty is there anyway.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on June 21, 2021, 08:24:27 PM
Hmmm, not sure how I feel about this... Guess we'll wait and see what happens.

I agree that I wish they were using the show characters instead of the damn ""concept six"" or whatever we're calling them. And the second cover is cute, but Surprise isn't blonde, dammit!! :P

Humm okay. But will they actually get the ponies personalities correctly? Or will they be carbon copies of the Mane Suxx? 

<snip>

Will the FiM writers actually have a fair balance,  or are they just gonna use it to take unnecessary and baseless potshots at MLP n Friends to support supposed FiM superiority?

These are my main concerns, too.

Interesting to hear the witches might be in it, though... could be promising... I just hope they don't make them parodies of themselves or anything. I know the witches are goofy as heck, but there's a thin line between "yes, we know this is silly" and "hurr hurr wasn't the old show so stupid?", you know? (Dunno how to word it)

as the familiar faces from Friendship is Magic must call upon the original G1 Ponies of the 1980s

ha, I see what you did there, IDW solicitor writers.

The art of the G1 ponies is very cute and I'm always excited to see new media featuring them but... as I am not a fan of the G4 cast, I would have liked them to stay far, far away from G1!

I agree, I'd much rather have had a G1-only comic. Guess I can see why they "had" to have the G4s in there, the FiM comics are obviously selling well if they're only just ending now (I didn't realize they were still going! I knew they were still doing some spinoffs but I didn't know it was still going *regularly*) so they want that market, it makes sense, but... still... I dunno, I just would prefer the two gens be kept as separate deals. Admittedly I'm not that big a fan of crossovers in general, though.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on June 21, 2021, 09:31:00 PM
Shoobedoop...shooshoobedoop...

Ok so I just saw this after posting in the unpopular opinions...

I have...so many mixed views on this.

I don't like that it's those six. I understand why it is, but I don't like it.

The real test will be whether the characters of the G1s are actually based on the original characters or whether they'll be forced into mirroring the M6.  This is especially a problem with AJ, who is entirely different...but also with figuring out Glory or Sparkler. Neither one has a major animation presence, true, but neither one is like Rarity either in the brief cameos they have.

I have no idea why those characters would know about stopping the witches. I'm pretty sure that was a different cast and some flutter ponies.

But all my personal twitches aside, I find this move interesting. I see it in the opposite way tbh...rather than putting FIM in there because G4 is selling well and popular, I think it's the opposite. They're ending the G4 only comic and making a crossover with G1 alongside G4 because G4 is dying out and G1 retro stuff is popular. Remember Hasbro changed their own attitude from "we have nothing to do with the BF ponies" to "here are some weird retro G4s we decided to issue/lets talk about the 'original m6 (collector ponies)'.

It smacks of them trying to reach out to us - to this market, because they sense the other one waning.

I may be wrong, but I can't see any reason to include G1 to pander to bronies. They don't want G1.

The big question is really whether we - or those who would be interested from a retro standpoint - want G4.

There's a Japanese fandom I've been involved in for a long time now, and there are a series of games, which is up to like iteration 7 I think by now. But 3 is the most popular by far. And so far they've done one game where they had 'generations' like this, and they also did a bunch of reissues and events for 3 even though it's been 15 ? years since the game originally came out.

Using a popular concept from within a wider franchise is the real sales ploy here IMO.

But eh. I'm not big on the G1 animation characterisations anyway. If these are just diluted M6, even more so.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on June 21, 2021, 09:50:39 PM
You raise some good points, Taffeta, especially the thing about a sudden G1 crossover seeming a bit desperate - I agree. (Good point re: Hasbro's reply to the Basic Fun ponies too, hadn't even considered that but it's a fair point to raise) I think that's one of the things that was bugging me about it earlier, that I couldn't put my finger on before... it just felt really weird and out of nowhere, but I think you've hit the nail on the head there.

Also this:

I may be wrong, but I can't see any reason to include G1 to pander to bronies. They don't want G1.

The big question is really whether we - or those who would be interested from a retro standpoint - want G4.

See, that's what I was wondering, too - who is this for?? I think that's going to be what makes or breaks this, at least for me. Is it written for ALL fans, or is it going to be "G1 but from a G4[/G4 fan's] perspective". Cause if it's the latter, then that's... what I'm worried it'll be, pretty much. But then on the other hand, I'm having difficulty imagining a... not sure what the word I'm looking for is. A take on the crossover concept from a "G1/G1 fan" perspective, I guess would be a way of describing it? Cause I dunno about other communities but at least on here, it feels like most of us (regardless of whether or not we like G4 in general) prefer to keep the gens separate? Gah, I know what I mean but I'm failing at putting it into words. I guess I'm just wondering who exactly this is directed at.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on June 21, 2021, 09:59:50 PM
Yeah...

But part of the issue is that I don't think there are many people in and around Hasbro or the franchises associated with MLP licences that know a lot about G1.

Basic Fun have done a great job with the ponies, but that's in a sense mimicry. They're only dealing with reproducing a physical toy, and their choices are not always what we would expect as fans (see TE choice range, lack of Powder etc). They seem to be made from the perspective of what is profitable to produce. Which makes sense. But isn't really G1 knowledge as we would think of it.

I think a lot of this 'G1 knowledge' is being based around Faustworld...I mean, that Toys that Made Us documentary chose to interview her, and though that was a mostly good overview of G1's history, the idea that her concept of G1 was somehow important is kind of key here. Whether we personally like or dislike her concept (I'm in the latter camp) there are a lot of people for whom that is now 'G1' in their mind's eye.

...The idea of using those six instead of the actual movie cast shows that too. There's not an actual awareness or willingness to embrace G1 as its own entity in the days it was the only MLP. There's just this hindsight view as though it's somehow a safety net, building it from G4??

It's the same as the attitude that the cartoon for G1 defines G1 because G4's cartoon defined G4.

I don't like the sense that 'actual G1 people' are involved in this either. Actual G1 people are all over the place. They're here. But none of us have the same concept of what G1 is as one another. So what meaning does 'real g1 fans!' have in this context? Not much. I'd rather have someone unconnected to MLP who bothers to research and represent the original world of G1 (even the animated related one) than someone who calls themselves a 'fan' but is still tied to the strings of G4 in some way.

I mean, I have similar issues with the Jem comic, because it priveleged fanon over canon. I'm all for fanon - in fanfic. But not in something that's going to be judged as 'canon'. And Jem actually had a 'canon'. G1 didn't really; it had several.

Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on June 21, 2021, 10:19:35 PM
There's not an actual awareness or willingness to embrace G1 as its own entity in the days it was the only MLP. There's just this hindsight view as though it's somehow a safety net, building it from G4??

My thoughts exactly - whenever they do something like this, it doesn't feel like "nod to the previous gen" or "little in-joke only fans of all-gens will pick up" or w/e, it just feels like they're trying too hard, or yeah like you said, sort of.. mining G1 for ideas to recycle for G4, if that makes sense? Not sure how to explain it.

I agree, fanon belongs in fanfic. I can think of several fanfics, fan ideas, etc that I *adore* but I'd hate for them to actually show up in an official thing.

Have they got G1 people involved in this, then? :o Or am I misunderstanding you.

I do wonder what the heck they're going to do with Glory/Sparkler (not sure which one they're using here). Neither of them really did anything in the cartoons (I'm assuming this is going to be primarily based off those rather than any other G1 canon), so.. not sure what they'll do for them.

I do like that second cover, how they drew the G1 "80s hair". The first cover has great "personality" and art but I'm not a big fan of how the G1 ponies' hairstyles are based on the main 6's. I mean, Surprise's big curls are cute and all, but the G1 ponies are their own characters... I just hate how this brony/Faust version of them keeps overtaking the actual original versions.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Wardah on June 21, 2021, 11:02:52 PM
Yeah...

But part of the issue is that I don't think there are many people in and around Hasbro or the franchises associated with MLP licences that know a lot about G1.

Basic Fun have done a great job with the ponies, but that's in a sense mimicry. They're only dealing with reproducing a physical toy, and their choices are not always what we would expect as fans (see TE choice range, lack of Powder etc). They seem to be made from the perspective of what is profitable to produce. Which makes sense. But isn't really G1 knowledge as we would think of it.

I think a lot of this 'G1 knowledge' is being based around Faustworld...I mean, that Toys that Made Us documentary chose to interview her, and though that was a mostly good overview of G1's history, the idea that her concept of G1 was somehow important is kind of key here. Whether we personally like or dislike her concept (I'm in the latter camp) there are a lot of people for whom that is now 'G1' in their mind's eye.

...The idea of using those six instead of the actual movie cast shows that too. There's not an actual awareness or willingness to embrace G1 as its own entity in the days it was the only MLP. There's just this hindsight view as though it's somehow a safety net, building it from G4??

It's the same as the attitude that the cartoon for G1 defines G1 because G4's cartoon defined G4.

I don't like the sense that 'actual G1 people' are involved in this either. Actual G1 people are all over the place. They're here. But none of us have the same concept of what G1 is as one another. So what meaning does 'real g1 fans!' have in this context? Not much. I'd rather have someone unconnected to MLP who bothers to research and represent the original world of G1 (even the animated related one) than someone who calls themselves a 'fan' but is still tied to the strings of G4 in some way.

I mean, I have similar issues with the Jem comic, because it priveleged fanon over canon. I'm all for fanon - in fanfic. But not in something that's going to be judged as 'canon'. And Jem actually had a 'canon'. G1 didn't really; it had several.



I think the Jem comic is fine as long as you view it as a separate thing with it's own separate canon. Then again what really is the difference between an reboot/spin off and fanfic other than one is officially sanctioned and the other isn't?
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: achab1984 on June 22, 2021, 12:19:22 AM
I love that G1 art!!! :)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: MJNSEIFER on June 22, 2021, 01:11:43 AM
Humm okay. But will they actually get the ponies personalities correctly? Or will they be carbon copies of the Mane Suxx? 
Depends how the writer chooses to do it – it appears to be someone who grew up with G1 (unless they're talking about G4, but I doubt it, because then they'd be quite young) so at the very least they'd be how they interpreted G1, the same way the Concept Six would have been Lauren's interpretation of them – the same way many of you interpreted your G1 toys the way you did, or maybe they'll be stuff taken from the toys, cartoons, or comics – it depends what “G1” was to the writer.

But even if they are copies of the Mane Six, it still doesn't matter, because all of us will always have our own ideas of what the G1 ponies are.

Will they include ponies who were actually more likely to show up, like Wind Whistler,  Fizzy, Truly, Galaxy, and Shady? Or are they gonna stick with Lauren's inspirational misunderstanding? Nm that roughly half those ponies were G3 based and swapped.
It wasn't a misunderstanding though, it was the personalities and characters she chose to use when she played with her toys – unless you mean that those in the brony fandom who aren't knowledgable towards G1 see things, like they might think they were the G1 “Mane Six” or something.  It would be good if other G1s are used, but at the end of the day it will be up to the writer.

 
Will the FiM writers actually have a fair balance,  or are they just gonna use it to take unnecessary and baseless potshots at MLP n Friends to support supposed FiM superiority?
Like I say it appears to be someone who grew up with G1, so I doubt there'd be any hate towards it.  There haven't really been that many potshots towards previous generations in the actual FiM, if any – Hasbro themselves (or DHX, I need to check) actually asked bronies to be more respectful to the previous generations, so I doubt they'd try to make them look bad to make G4 look better, because I've seen little of that in the show, if any of it.

Looks a bit like Tales though for some reason. I almost thought that was Melody for a moment.
Yeah, I thought that was Melody as well, at first – I was confused as to why she was there for a moment...

I agree that I wish they were using the show characters instead of the damn ""concept six"" or whatever we're calling them.  
I think “Concept Six” is my own term, but yeah, maybe they'll be show stuff, maybe there won't – if not, we'll have fanon stuff for that.  It's likely the Concept Six because they led to the creation of the Mane Six, and this is IDW's last time with the Mane Six (for now?) so it's like going back to their direct routes, so to speak – regardless of whether the real versions of those G1 ponies (and there is essentially no “real version”, as My Little Pony is a toyline, so everyone's version is the “real version” so to speak, as the whole point is you give them the personality you want them to have) were anything like the G4 ponies they inspired.  Maybe they'll include other G1s, maybe they won't – it depends on what they want to do, but the Concept Six were likely chosen because it's IDW's (supposed) goodbye to the Mane Six, so it makes sense to go back to the ponies who, at least indirectly, led to their creation.

It smacks of them trying to reach out to us - to this market, because they sense the other one waning.
Like I say, it appears to be a fan of G1 writing it – I get that nostalgia sells, but sometimes it really is the writer's nostalgia that is where it all comes from, they include things because it's what they are nostalgic to.  It's like me, I write my versions of existing things, because the original versions mean something to me and inspire me.


I may be wrong, but I can't see any reason to include G1 to pander to bronies. They don't want G1.
I think a decent amount of bronies do want G1 – there's actually been more respect towards previous generations for a while, at the very least for G1, and for one thing they were asking for G1 Grogar for a long time, and many were disappointed that he was never in G4, from what I can see.  There is still pre-G4 hate, but there's more than one side to the fandom.  That being said, I doubt it's pandering to anyone - it's what the writer chose to do. 


See, that's what I was wondering, too - who is this for?? I think that's going to be what makes or breaks this, at least for me. Is it written for ALL fans, or is it going to be "G1 but from a G4[/G4 fan's] perspective". Cause if it's the latter, then that's... what I'm worried it'll be, pretty much. But then on the other hand, I'm having difficulty imagining a... not sure what the word I'm looking for is. A take on the crossover concept from a "G1/G1 fan" perspective, I guess would be a way of describing it? Cause I dunno about other communities but at least on here, it feels like most of us (regardless of whether or not we like G4 in general) prefer to keep the gens separate? Gah, I know what I mean but I'm failing at putting it into words. I guess I'm just wondering who exactly this is directed at.
At the end of the day, it's likely for the writer – which is ultimately what should be done when creating something; you create for yourself first, and if it's made with love it should shine through and be something that people in general can enjoy (I realise life isn't always that perfect.)  It's like that one moral in G4 that I will now paraphrase - “if you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one.”

I do kind of no what you mean about mixing generations – I do kind of think it works better as a fanon thing (I have a project that is at the very least G1-G4, but also fanon), and I do feel that the canon versions work better as separate entities, so we can put them together, or keep them separate if we choose to (which is why I'm unsure about G5 being officially part of G4's future), but this feels different to me... maybe it's because the Concept Six were my gateway back into pre-G4, but maybe it's because it feels more like G4 thank its personal routes, rather than trying to... do something else... I dunno, I haven't got the right words either, but it feels different somehow.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Dragonflitter on June 22, 2021, 01:24:33 AM
Oooooooooo this is so exciting! What a fun way to conclude the comics' run!

I dearly love the IDW company with all my heart, and I'm so glad to see they're still in business despite the little internal shake up they had a year or so ago.

They've taken so many things that are important to me from my childhood (MLP, Ghostbusters, TMNT, Star Trek, Jem, and many more) and given the stories new life with a modern twist, while still keeping faith to what we loved about these franchises when we were kids. This G1/G4 crossover idea is so cool! Can't wait to buy the issues!
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Ragamuffin on June 22, 2021, 01:52:59 AM
There are only two MLP generations: G1, which went from 1983-1984, and G4 which went from 2010-2021. Only twelve ponies were ever produced. No one knows what happened in between 1984 and 2010, but whatever did was probably very cringe and very bad and was killed with fire.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: InkyMilk on June 22, 2021, 02:16:15 AM
I admit, I'm more than a little confused about what's going on since I don't read the MLP comics (it says the comics are ending but this is a new series?? Is it like a finale arc? A new series altogether? A 'continuation' that can be read on its own?), but holy moly that artwork is CUTE!!!
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 22, 2021, 04:09:11 AM
There are only two MLP generations: G1, which went from 1983-1984, and G4 which went from 2010-2021. Only twelve ponies were ever produced. No one knows what happened in between 1984 and 2010, but whatever did was probably very cringe and very bad and was killed with fire.

All pony fans and future pony fans were put into cryogenic stasis,  so hasbro could steal money from our wallets, and we woke up wondering where all those "other " plastic horses came from.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on June 22, 2021, 04:14:40 AM
Regardless of how the comics themselves will be, I definitely want to buy the variants with the rightmost art style, as those are drawn by one of my favorite artists on Twitter, Celesse.

https://twitter.com/celesse/status/1407066479477002255

I admit, I'm more than a little confused about what's going on since I don't read the MLP comics (it says the comics are ending but this is a new series?? Is it like a finale arc? A new series altogether? A 'continuation' that can be read on its own?), but holy moly that artwork is CUTE!!!

I think it's just an entirely new series.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on June 22, 2021, 02:02:28 PM
Ahhh I knew I recognized that art style! Always nice when a fanartist gets to do official art :)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on June 22, 2021, 05:16:46 PM
There are only two MLP generations: G1, which went from 1983-1984, and G4 which went from 2010-2021. Only twelve ponies were ever produced. No one knows what happened in between 1984 and 2010, but whatever did was probably very cringe and very bad and was killed with fire.

All pony fans and future pony fans were put into cryogenic stasis,  so hasbro could steal money from our wallets, and we woke up wondering where all those "other " plastic horses came from.

*throws requisite fakies* xDD

Sadly that is kind of how some people view it.

On the difference between fanon and canon - exactly what was stated. People get paid for one and it gets a veneer of officialdom about it - on the other, it's a labour of love from a fan to a franchise which doesn't have to follow the 'rules' because ultimately it's not for anyone but the fan themselves really.

When a fan opinion is authorised in some way, even when it twists away from the premises, characters or ideas set down in the original work, that's when I have a problem with it.

And with G1 there really isn't much of an original work to build from. So that makes it more complicated. Faust's interpretation of G1 was fine, but it was hers. Now it's being used as a benchmark to shoehorn everybody's, as witnessed by the fact those six characters are going to be involved with that G4 framework. It's naive to think otherwise. Our G1 has been trampled into the ground by her G1 in the popular consciousness. Her G1 is fine, but it's hers. It's alien to me and to many other people who grew up with G1. It's fanon, not canon, but they've made it canon, and now we all have to live with the result, good or bad.

Even if some bronies 'want G1' now, it's not actually G1 they want. It's G1 as they interpret it through the veil of G4, sanitised by Faustverse. It's not an authentic experience of G1 except in some cases - probably only those G4 fans who venture into cross-gen fandoms like this. Certainly not those whose only source of information is self-feeding based on their google searches. Things like a preoccupation with the concept 6, with Majesty, and the G1 animation...all signs of G1 knowledge fed by G4, not by G1 itself.

On the subject of Glory and Sparkler, both do have cogent personalities in their backcard stories, in story tapes (in Glory's case, both US and UK) and in the comics.  No, I don't expect these to form any kind of basis for the personalities we see in the comics. I expect it to be based on Faust's interpretation going back to the 'concept 6' idea and the M6 that came from that idea. The reason why is that people generally now think of MLP in terms of the animation, and compare animation. They don't understand G1 in its diverse forms, and don't try to.

In my field of study, I work with a variant of a well known Japanese text. My variant is longer, contains more information, includes more scenes and was just as influential. BUT most people cite the more common version because it has translation, is easily available, and they just don't bother to look beyond what's right in front of them. Because of that there are some bizarre interpretations of sources based on stories completely absent from the common version. Those stories are in the version I study, but most people haven't bothered to check.

To me looking at MLP, it's a very similar situation. G1 is amazingly diverse. Even if you take our individual ponylands out of the equation, with all the different media across different countries, different ponies, different year releases...there is no collective 'G1' or 'mane 6' or anything even remotely resembling what exists for G4. For better or worse, there isn't one canon that can be easily drawn on and intersected with the one G4 canon.

I'll say it again - I'm not interested in the opinions of someone who grew up with G1. I grew up with G1 and I don't need someone else's opinion on it being trampled over mine. I would rather see someone unconnected to the franchise do the actual legwork to find out how the animation, comics, backcards, story tapes (or some of these) represented these characters (Glory, Sparkler, Surprise etc especially) or even took the brave decision to scrap the concept 6 in favour of using characters who actually have a prior association with the witches, as opposed to a hotchpotch.

This is of course just my opinion, and I'm sure everyone will come to their own conclusions.

Also, final note - I also thought it was Melody at first. Now that WOULD have been interesting as a crossover, but Tales/G4 is probably never going to happen.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Dragonflitter on June 22, 2021, 10:43:15 PM
Ahhh I knew I recognized that art style! Always nice when a fanartist gets to do official art :)

Yes! IDW is known for that! Quite a few of their comics are drawn by people who were big fans (and had large collections of fanart on DA). :)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: lonewolf on June 22, 2021, 11:23:13 PM
Sad to see the G4 comics end (after this crossover is done G4 is officially dead), but these look like fun. The left cover is my favorite  because it has Glory the interactions between the two sides are cute.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: brightberry on June 23, 2021, 04:49:05 AM
I’m not thrilled that they use those particular G1 ponies just to imply that they have a special relationship to the G4 ponies. Especially as those G1 ponies are their own individuals and not some alternate universe version of G4s as in a Star Trek episode.

If they had used ponies like Wind Whistler, Buttons, Majesty, Cotton Candy or even ponies like Dancing Butterflies and Parasol… I’d be more interested.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: sweetstuff85 on June 23, 2021, 07:07:11 AM
Wow! I’m really excited about this. Super cool!!

Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on June 23, 2021, 03:20:26 PM
I don't have a problem with them basing G1 off the cartoon world (for one thing, it's probably more easily accessible to the average comic author than the UK comics... man, wouldn't it be nice if those got a proper reprint one of these days? Now THAT would be awesome. Going a bit off-topic there though, just something that occurred to me), it's just the use of THOSE particular characters that has me worried, it's so "G4". Like:

I’m not thrilled that they use those particular G1 ponies just to imply that they have a special relationship to the G4 ponies. Especially as those G1 ponies are their own individuals and not some alternate universe version of G4s as in a Star Trek episode.

If they had used ponies like Wind Whistler, Buttons, Majesty, Cotton Candy or even ponies like Dancing Butterflies and Parasol… I’d be more interested.

this - great way of putting it. Faust's interpretation of the chars is great and just as valid as anything else, but I don't like this recontextualization (I guess would be the word) of making it seem like these six are a thing, if that makes sense. This recent trend of taking these particular G1s and presenting them as "The 80s versions of the Mane 6!" like in that Twilight SDCC 2-pack. I don't mind a bit of reinterpretation, writers putting their own spin on it, etc, since the G1 world is so open to interpretation/there were so many different continuities/etc - I think we all have our own idea of how the G1 world "works", for example - but yeah like I said... who is this comic being made for. Cause the use of those particular chars doesn't convince me that it's being made for us, if that makes sense.

I agree a Tales/FiM crossover could be interesting.

Ahhh I knew I recognized that art style! Always nice when a fanartist gets to do official art :)

Yes! IDW is known for that! Quite a few of their comics are drawn by people who were big fans (and had large collections of fanart on DA). :)

I've noticed this happening a lot with comics in general these days, I think it's super cool :)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on June 23, 2021, 03:21:31 PM
I haven't kept up with the G4 comic anyway, so I'm a bit ambivalent, the covers are okay, I'm more curious about what happens inside and that'll probably determine if I will or will not buy the books.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: therainbowtroll on June 23, 2021, 05:51:54 PM
I am looking forward to this! Its a fitting end. However I seriously need to catch up on the comics! I have a list on my phone of all the comics I am missing and I woulden't mind getting on that soonish!  :P
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: lalalei2001 on June 25, 2021, 09:13:41 PM
Silly Hasbro, it's the Volcano of GLOOM, not Doom! :P
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 25, 2021, 10:57:24 PM
Yeah...

But part of the issue is that I don't think there are many people in and around Hasbro or the franchises associated with MLP licences that know a lot about G1.

Basic Fun have done a great job with the ponies, but that's in a sense mimicry. They're only dealing with reproducing a physical toy, and their choices are not always what we would expect as fans (see TE choice range, lack of Powder etc). They seem to be made from the perspective of what is profitable to produce. Which makes sense. But isn't really G1 knowledge as we would think of it.

I think a lot of this 'G1 knowledge' is being based around Faustworld...I mean, that Toys that Made Us documentary chose to interview her, and though that was a mostly good overview of G1's history, the idea that her concept of G1 was somehow important is kind of key here. Whether we personally like or dislike her concept (I'm in the latter camp) there are a lot of people for whom that is now 'G1' in their mind's eye.

...The idea of using those six instead of the actual movie cast shows that too. There's not an actual awareness or willingness to embrace G1 as its own entity in the days it was the only MLP. There's just this hindsight view as though it's somehow a safety net, building it from G4??

It's the same as the attitude that the cartoon for G1 defines G1 because G4's cartoon defined G4.

I don't like the sense that 'actual G1 people' are involved in this either. Actual G1 people are all over the place. They're here. But none of us have the same concept of what G1 is as one another. So what meaning does 'real g1 fans!' have in this context? Not much. I'd rather have someone unconnected to MLP who bothers to research and represent the original world of G1 (even the animated related one) than someone who calls themselves a 'fan' but is still tied to the strings of G4 in some way.

I mean, I have similar issues with the Jem comic, because it priveleged fanon over canon. I'm all for fanon - in fanfic. But not in something that's going to be judged as 'canon'. And Jem actually had a 'canon'. G1 didn't really; it had several.

I'm not so sure they're trying to reach out to us. If they were they'd actually dig into MLP's own past sources like they do for Transformers and Joe fans. This feels like it'll have just enough fan service to catch people's attention, and enough fan-ficcyness, to annoy people.

I hope I'm wrong, but

Post Merge: June 25, 2021, 10:58:06 PM

Silly Hasbro, it's the Volcano of GLOOM, not Doom! :P

Good catch!
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on June 25, 2021, 11:19:05 PM
This looks cute. I'm optimistic.  :)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Gator on June 26, 2021, 01:45:39 AM
I, of course, am glad the witches might be coming back.  I don't know if it's the witches we know and love or if they will be new or re-booted, but I'm hoping Draggle is back!

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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: ThermalMoon on June 26, 2021, 10:22:47 PM
I, of course, am glad the witches might be coming back.  I don't know if it's the witches we know and love or if they will be new or re-booted, but I'm hoping Draggle is back!

I see someone is part of the Draggle appreciation squad, right there with ya'. Anyways, that's also what I'm hoping for, even though this cover already a few alarming things I may not like. But I'm sure some people will still like it, even with its hiccups. Definitely got to agree with Taffeta's points though regarding their interpretation of G1, but I still look forward to it.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Aflame on June 26, 2021, 10:30:45 PM
this is cool I deffo want these comics :)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on June 26, 2021, 11:03:04 PM
I'm hoping they do the witches justice, too. :) I like that they used them instead of Tirac or Grogar (since those seem more popular with bronies, from what I've seen... though I suppose FiM already had their own versions of those chars, maybe that's why they're using the witches). I love the witches, especially Draggle.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 27, 2021, 12:45:23 AM
Draggle is my favorite witch. I hope they do the witches justice too.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Queen Sophie on June 27, 2021, 04:14:14 AM
I’m curious to know why one of the covers has ponies in the g3 design
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: LadyAmalthea on June 27, 2021, 04:42:11 AM
The fact that the witches are in it is pretty much the only reason I'm interested at all. I do like the art on that second cover, but like others have said, I'm leery about their choices of G1 ponies to feature, and I hope that they aren't portrayed as doppelgangers of the Mane 6 from another dimension.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 27, 2021, 03:11:52 PM
I’m not thrilled that they use those particular G1 ponies just to imply that they have a special relationship to the G4 ponies. Especially as those G1 ponies are their own individuals and not some alternate universe version of G4s as in a Star Trek episode.

If they had used ponies like Wind Whistler, Buttons, Majesty, Cotton Candy or even ponies like Dancing Butterflies and Parasol… I’d be more interested.


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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Dragonflitter on June 28, 2021, 01:55:34 AM
I’m curious to know why one of the covers has ponies in the g3 design

It's common to get different artists to do different "variant" covers for special comic book issues. That way collectors who are completists will buy the issue more than once, to get all the covers that are offered (or just to buy the different covers they like). Some artists have wildly varying art styles. I'm fairly certain that particular cover wasn't meant to represent the ponies in a G3 design, it's just that particular artist's art style. :)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Bekuno on June 28, 2021, 05:06:56 PM
I'm going to really miss the Friendship is Magic series IDW did. I buy omnibus volumes with every release, and trade paperbacks of the annuals or series not big enough to be added to an omnibus. I can understand it's time for it to go though.

I don't have any fears or concerns about the portrayals of the G1 characters personally! Im very excited for the Generations comic, I think it will be a lot of fun. I have a lot of "out there" headcanons about how the G1 world works so I don't have a right to fuss about canon/fanon/comic interpretations.

The only thing that kills me is that the covers Celesse is doing are the Retailer Incentive ones, so its like one out of every 100 printed will have that cover per issue, and they will be VERY expensive  :sad:
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: MJNSEIFER on June 28, 2021, 05:29:50 PM
Disclaimer: I'm sorry if anyone dislikes the term "Concept Six", but that is the easiest way for me to refer to them as a group, especially within subjects like this - I can't call them the "G1 Mane Six", because they never were a "mane six" in G1.

I respect and understand what people are saying about using these characters rather than other G1 ponies, especially ones that actually are core ponies, or are more well known to the G1 fans.  Maybe they will include other G1s, maybe they won't, but I understand what you're saying.

However, while G4 isn't the whole franchise, and while the Concept Six aren't the entirety of G1 (and never were core ponies, sans Firefly, during G1) at the end of the day, while there's still a chance they'll do stuff that will appeal to G1 fans, this is ultimately a G4 thing.  The point is more likely that the Mane Six are meeting the ponies that led to their inspiration, rather than specifically G4 meeting G1 - it's the Mane Six retracing their roots (from a creator's standpoint) rather than My Little Pony retracing its roots, so they're meeting the G1 ponies they were inspired by, rather than actual G1 main characters.  So for what it likely is, I think it serves its purpose.

In terms of there being no one "canon" of G1, that is also correct - all generations have at least two canons to my knowledge, and then there's our own stories for them.  Even if someone is putting their idea of what G1 is in this, it is their idea of G1, the same as how the Concept Six was Lauren's idea of what G1 was, which also has value, but it was her idea of G1, the same as everyone has their idea of what each generation was or could be.


It's like in me and my friend's project, we will feature as many G1 ponies as possible (as well as other generations up to at least G4) and it will not end on the Concept Six.  There is one episode planned that groups the Concept Six together as a pseudo-Mane Cast, but this is more of a shout out to the fact that they were planned to be one in G4 rather than actually implying there were one.

Regarding the Concept Six, I have no idea how many bronies write them as copies of the Mane Six, but when I include them, I will not write them like this – there is no reason for me to do so, as I already have the Mane Six.  The Concept Six will (as individuals) take their personalities from what can be taken from their canon personalities, with our own writing ideas for their personalities also included – which essentially how all canon characters will be written (including the Mane Six) we get what we like and/or can use from canon versions of them (keeping in mind that some canons contradict each other) but they're all ultimately our “version” of them.

But yeah, however the Concept Six are written in this comic series, it is still just another version of those characters (even if they do end up acting like the Mane Six) and like all characters in MLP there will be many ways to write and/or interpret them – they don't even have to be the Concept Six in everyone's version (and for a lot of people, I'm guessing they aren't) and there will forever be opportunities to give other G1 characters a chance to shine, be it canon or fanon.  But taking this comic as what it is at face value – a finale for its canon for G4, it makes sense that the Concept Six were chosen since they led up to the creation of the Mane Six.  It's likely more of a call back to how G4 was created than a call back to G1 (even if they do end up referencing G1) – they'll be plenty of other ways for people, be it fanon or canon, to pay homage to G1 (and any other generation.)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Dragonflitter on June 28, 2021, 05:34:16 PM
I don't have any fears or concerns about the portrayals of the G1 characters personally! Im very excited for the Generations comic, I think it will be a lot of fun. I have a lot of "out there" headcanons about how the G1 world works so I don't have a right to fuss about canon/fanon/comic interpretations.

That's how I feel too! After all, a new reboot or remake doesn't take anything away from the original tv show/movie. So a new interpretation of G1 characters doesn't take away anything from the 80's characters we love. It's just a new interpretation! And I think it'll be fun to see how these comic creators represent the characters. Will the G1 ponies be from far in the G4 past? Or the far future? Or an alternate dimension? I can't wait to find out!

The only thing that kills me is that the covers Celesse is doing are the Retailer Incentive ones, so its like one out of every 100 printed will have that cover per issue, and they will be VERY expensive  :sad:

Aw, that's always hard, I'm so sorry. :( Chase items make me so anxious... I always feel relieved when I don't like the design of an exclusive so I don't have to worry about chasing it down heh.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: bladed on June 28, 2021, 06:18:44 PM
That's how I feel too! After all, a new reboot or remake doesn't take anything away from the original tv show/movie. So a new interpretation of G1 characters doesn't take away anything from the 80's characters we love. It's just a new interpretation! And I think it'll be fun to see how these comic creators represent the characters. Will the G1 ponies be from far in the G4 past? Or the far future? Or an alternate dimension? I can't wait to find out!

^^^thank you for that wording lol (and bekuno, mjnseifer, probably others who mentioned it), i was actually thinking about this sitting at work :P with all the times the comic vs cartoon has come up on this forum over the years, discussing the fact that they both had different characters, rules, whatever, i don't see how this is all that different, especially since we can't say for sure how they'll act - it will be a bit disappointing if theyre near enough 1:1 copies but it's not the end of the world. after all, we aren't being forced into buying these and i hope the writers/artists are enjoying it at least.

i don't think i'll be able to buy these but i'll keep an eye out (also only realised as im about to send that i posted in this thread before with something similar but couldn't find the right way to say it - i do have more to say and a sort of anecdote but i wont ramble on more)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 28, 2021, 06:47:41 PM
I didn't know that comics did such things as "chase covers."
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Bekuno on June 28, 2021, 07:16:20 PM
I didn't know that comics did such things as "chase covers."

Oh yeah! Really adds to their collect-ability now.

There's usually always a "Cover A" and "Cover B" and you can find both at your local comic shop. Sometimes there will even be a "Cover C". Then there's the retailer incentives I mentioned, which are very rare and made so comic shops will order more in hopes of getting one of these rare covers. Then there's retailed exclusive covers, so certain chain shops can get special covers. I have a lot of FIM issues that are hot topic or hastings exclusives!
Heck, sometimes you can even get blank covers at conventions and commission artists to draw a one of a kind cover for you!

I really only collect MLP, Care Bear, and Godzilla comics so I don't go too crazy but I will buy multiple covers if they aren't too expensive secondhand :)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: MJNSEIFER on June 28, 2021, 08:39:22 PM
I don't have any fears or concerns about the portrayals of the G1 characters personally! Im very excited for the Generations comic, I think it will be a lot of fun. I have a lot of "out there" headcanons about how the G1 world works so I don't have a right to fuss about canon/fanon/comic interpretations.

That's how I feel too! After all, a new reboot or remake doesn't take anything away from the original tv show/movie. So a new interpretation of G1 characters doesn't take away anything from the 80's characters we love. It's just a new interpretation!
THIS!!  This is how I feel about new versions of things in general, whatever the new version does, it doesn't erase the old version(s) from existence, it's just a new version.  :)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Wardah on June 28, 2021, 09:10:21 PM
I don't have any fears or concerns about the portrayals of the G1 characters personally! Im very excited for the Generations comic, I think it will be a lot of fun. I have a lot of "out there" headcanons about how the G1 world works so I don't have a right to fuss about canon/fanon/comic interpretations.

That's how I feel too! After all, a new reboot or remake doesn't take anything away from the original tv show/movie. So a new interpretation of G1 characters doesn't take away anything from the 80's characters we love. It's just a new interpretation!
THIS!!  This is how I feel about new versions of things in general, whatever the new version does, it doesn't erase the old version(s) from existence, it's just a new version.  :)

This is how I feel about this and how I felt about the Jem comics. Tho I can understand someone being tired of the Mane 6 and would rather the G1 ponies have entirely new personalities than just be a rehash of the Mane 6. Not everyone has to love G4 (or everything about it) just like not everyone has to love G1 (or everything about it). Just as long as people handle it respectfully.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on June 28, 2021, 09:51:22 PM
I didn't know that comics did such things as "chase covers."

Oh yeah! Really adds to their collect-ability now.

There's usually always a "Cover A" and "Cover B" and you can find both at your local comic shop. Sometimes there will even be a "Cover C". Then there's the retailer incentives I mentioned, which are very rare and made so comic shops will order more in hopes of getting one of these rare covers. Then there's retailed exclusive covers, so certain chain shops can get special covers. I have a lot of FIM issues that are hot topic or hastings exclusives!
Heck, sometimes you can even get blank covers at conventions and commission artists to draw a one of a kind cover for you!

I really only collect MLP, Care Bear, and Godzilla comics so I don't go too crazy but I will buy multiple covers if they aren't too expensive secondhand :)

Ahh i see.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 20, 2021, 07:33:31 PM
Solicitations for issue 2 are now out:
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Grackle and Dyre, the young granddaughters of the evil witch Hydia, have set out to destroy all of pony-dom! And even worse-their plan might be working! Friendship begins to fall apart as their lackeys Black Belle, Shadow Storm, and Violet Shiver wreak havoc in Ponyville!
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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 20, 2021, 07:37:56 PM
Uhh ok? What on earth is a grackle?

ETA: answered my own question,  it's a very pretty species of bird.

Has anyone actually read these yet?
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: InkyMilk on August 20, 2021, 09:04:43 PM
I don't know anything about comics, so hopefully my questions aren't too stupid. But, where do you buy these? Are they online special order only?

We have a couple comic shops in the area, and I've been specifically on the lookout for these but have yet to come across them. Like I said, I don't really collect or read comics, and I really only want these "RI" cover, so I don't know if that's going to make them harder to find.

Also, I probably missed it, but how many issues will this mini-series be?
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 20, 2021, 09:10:17 PM
I don't know anything about comics, so hopefully my questions aren't too stupid. But, where do you buy these? Are they online special order only?

We have a couple comic shops in the area, and I've been specifically on the lookout for these but have yet to come across them. Like I said, I don't really collect or read comics, and I really only want these "RI" cover, so I don't know if that's going to make them harder to find.

Also, I probably missed it, but how many issues will this mini-series be?

Type in mlp G1/G4 crossover comic and hit the shopping button and it'll tell you who has it.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on August 20, 2021, 09:14:08 PM
Aww, Blackbelle is what I called my favourite plushie. Cute to see MLP using the name. But I admit I'm not sure what any of this has to do with G1? ^^;

Also "granddaughters of Hydia" when's this meant to be set, then? :o That'd seem to indicate it's fairly far into the future, but then how do the G1 ponies come into it...? *confused* Why not just use Reeka and Draggle and have done with it. Well, I'm sure it'll make sense in context.

(How reliable are IDW's solicitations, does anyone know? I'm only really familiar with Boom Comics and their solitications weren't always reliable... sometimes they'd be perfect synopses and other times the actual story was completely different to what had been soliticited.. Just wondering so I know how much stock to put into these Generations solicitations. ^^;)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 20, 2021, 09:21:50 PM
Has anyone actually read these yet?
Don't think it's out yet.

I don't know anything about comics, so hopefully my questions aren't too stupid. But, where do you buy these? Are they online special order only?
RI stands for Retailer Incentive. The odds for this issue seem to be 1:10, so for every 10 issues ordered, at least one should be the cover. I know there are a few different sites that sell specialty covers, and the RI edition is likely to be more expensive and sought after. There's a chance you may find them in person if I'm understanding correctly.

(How reliable are IDW's solicitations, does anyone know?)
I've not seen any major issues with their solicitations.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 22, 2021, 01:14:16 AM
Aww, Blackbelle is what I called my favourite plushie. Cute to see MLP using the name. But I admit I'm not sure what any of this has to do with G1? ^^;

Also "granddaughters of Hydia" when's this meant to be set, then? :o That'd seem to indicate it's fairly far into the future, but then how do the G1 ponies come into it...? *confused* Why not just use Reeka and Draggle and have done with it. Well, I'm sure it'll make sense in context.

(How reliable are IDW's solicitations, does anyone know? I'm only really familiar with Boom Comics and their solitications weren't always reliable... sometimes they'd be perfect synopses and other times the actual story was completely different to what had been soliticited.. Just wondering so I know how much stock to put into these Generations solicitations. ^^;)

You expect Hasbro to conform to any sort of plot consistency?  ;)  I'm also not seeing either of these alleged granddaughters.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: ThermalMoon on August 22, 2021, 09:59:33 PM
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Grackle and Dyre, the young granddaughters of the evil witch Hydia, have set out to destroy all of pony-dom! And even worse-their plan might be working! Friendship begins to fall apart as their lackeys Black Belle, Shadow Storm, and Violet Shiver wreak havoc in Ponyville!

Granddaughters? I always assumed what was left of the gloom clan were just Hydia, Reeka, and Draggle. With their relatives having their souls attached to the paintings and living there, possibly as ghosts. But I suppose that's just speculation. Anyways, I'm curious to see where they go with this direction. I'm going to guess Hydia is pretty old in this G1 future, at least, I'm certain its the future. Concept six aside, I don't think Reeka or Draggle will play much of a role, probably more as background characters than anything. Plus I don't see any mention of them.

Oh, and I saw in the MLP FiM wiki that the G1 Smooze may be coming back. I'm not sure if it's true or not, but if it is, I think it may be too early to be bringing it back. The Smooze appeared in the MLP: Movie (1986) and didn't return for the TV series in MLP N' Friends. I'm not saying it shouldn't or it couldn't, I just think it's too soon to bring it in for this crossover. But that's just my opinion, I'm still interested to see where they go with this.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 22, 2021, 10:01:48 PM
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Grackle and Dyre, the young granddaughters of the evil witch Hydia, have set out to destroy all of pony-dom! And even worse-their plan might be working! Friendship begins to fall apart as their lackeys Black Belle, Shadow Storm, and Violet Shiver wreak havoc in Ponyville!

Granddaughters? I always assumed what was left of the gloom clan were just Hydia, Reeka, and Draggle. With their relatives having their souls attached to the paintings and living there, possibly as ghosts. But I suppose that's just speculation. Anyways, I'm curious to see where they go with this direction. I'm going to guess Hydia is pretty old in this G1 future, at least, I'm certain its the future. Concept six aside, I don't think Reeka or Draggle will play much of a role, probably more as background characters than anything. Plus I don't see any mention of them.

Oh, and I saw in the MLP FiM wiki that the G1 Smooze may be coming back. I'm not sure if it's true or not, but if it is, I think it may be too early to be bringing it back. The Smooze appeared in the MLP: Movie (1986) and didn't return for the TV series in MLP N' Friends. I'm not saying it shouldn't or it couldn't, I just think it's too soon to bring it in for this crossover. But that's just my opinion, I'm still interested to see where they go with this.

You can't have a family tree that um...infamous without popping out kids.  And their cousins were definitely alive during the song.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Dragonflitter on August 23, 2021, 04:57:22 AM
My question is... are they Reeka's kids, or Draggle's? o.0
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 23, 2021, 05:21:06 AM
My question is... are they Reeka's kids, or Draggle's? o.0

Perhaps one of each?
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Ragamuffin on August 23, 2021, 01:19:42 PM
My question is... are they Reeka's kids, or Draggle's? o.0

Perhaps one of each?

I was wondering if they were their kids, but then again, Hydia always insisted that she wasn't their mom, right? Or was it just to not *call* her mom? :P
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on August 23, 2021, 02:30:20 PM
Yeah Hydia was definitely their mum, she just didn't want to be called that :p

I was wondering whose kids they were, too. I'm betting one for each sister.

Still think it's weird they're going this route, it seems so needlessly complicated. Why not just use Reeka and Draggle themselves? So weird.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 23, 2021, 04:44:53 PM
Yeah Hydia was definitely their mum, she just didn't want to be called that :p

I was wondering whose kids they were, too. I'm betting one for each sister.

Still think it's weird they're going this route, it seems so needlessly complicated. Why not just use Reeka and Draggle themselves? So weird.

Maybe they're too old? Who knows.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Firehooves on August 27, 2021, 09:20:50 AM
Oh boy....

This is interesting...

I wonder how they will bring the generations together, as well as how they will portray the g1ponies
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on August 28, 2021, 12:36:15 AM
Yeah Hydia was definitely their mum, she just didn't want to be called that :p

I was wondering whose kids they were, too. I'm betting one for each sister.

Still think it's weird they're going this route, it seems so needlessly complicated. Why not just use Reeka and Draggle themselves? So weird.

Maybe they're too old? Who knows.

It probably depends how long the time span is...or if they're doing a weird time skip thing...or whatever.

I don't pretend I'm keeping up with the details of the plot, but if it's going to use a random mishmash of G1 ponies who mostly existed before the movie happened, it's hard to understand why Draggle and Reeka wouldn't be involved. Unless they're going to go down the dark path of them being smoozed to death or something. But if the G1 ponies have come through a timeskip, that might be different.

TBH I don't think this is going to be about G1 in the slightest though. They'll push the names and images in there to try and cash in on the popularity of the retro, since G4 is a dead fish now and they'll keep beating every drop out of it they can because they can't think up anything else (G5 is kind of proof of that, it's very blah compared to FIM).

That being the case, it probably doesn't matter if there's any continuity to the original witches. A single line aside to 'explain' that they're related is probably as much attention as it will get. I mean, there are also some ponies involved in the villainy too here, right?

 It's a shame they didn't use the original G1 cast that were in the movie, that might mean something...but I guess it's also true that it's not really aimed at people who grew up with G1.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 28, 2021, 12:44:00 AM
Yeah Hydia was definitely their mum, she just didn't want to be called that :p

I was wondering whose kids they were, too. I'm betting one for each sister.

Still think it's weird they're going this route, it seems so needlessly complicated. Why not just use Reeka and Draggle themselves? So weird.

Maybe they're too old? Who knows.

It probably depends how long the time span is...or if they're doing a weird time skip thing...or whatever.

I don't pretend I'm keeping up with the details of the plot, but if it's going to use a random mishmash of G1 ponies who mostly existed before the movie happened, it's hard to understand why Draggle and Reeka wouldn't be involved. Unless they're going to go down the dark path of them being smoozed to death or something. But if the G1 ponies have come through a timeskip, that might be different.

TBH I don't think this is going to be about G1 in the slightest though. They'll push the names and images in there to try and cash in on the popularity of the retro, since G4 is a dead fish now and they'll keep beating every drop out of it they can because they can't think up anything else (G5 is kind of proof of that, it's very blah compared to FIM).

That being the case, it probably doesn't matter if there's any continuity to the original witches. A single line aside to 'explain' that they're related is probably as much attention as it will get. I mean, there are also some ponies involved in the villainy too here, right?

 It's a shame they didn't use the original G1 cast that were in the movie, that might mean something...but I guess it's also true that it's not really aimed at people who grew up with G1.

I dunno. They sounded pretty lively after being dumped into the volcano.  Lol. But I agree 100% that they should have used the movie ponies.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on August 28, 2021, 01:27:05 PM
I just find it weird, it's meant to be a G1 crossover thing and then they make up a bunch of new characters instead of using the established cast? They didn't do this with the Transformers crossover comic, right? I saw some panels from that and it looked like the usual cast, no new guys. :/ Like, I'm not asking for a strict adherence to the G1 cartoons here, I don't mind keeping things flexible, but what is the point of doing a cross-gen thing if you're just going to be using stuff loosely based on G1?? I don't get it.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on August 28, 2021, 04:17:09 PM
I just find it weird, it's meant to be a G1 crossover thing and then they make up a bunch of new characters instead of using the established cast? They didn't do this with the Transformers crossover comic, right? I saw some panels from that and it looked like the usual cast, no new guys. :/ Like, I'm not asking for a strict adherence to the G1 cartoons here, I don't mind keeping things flexible, but what is the point of doing a cross-gen thing if you're just going to be using stuff loosely based on G1?? I don't get it.

It is possible the writers for this are the same as the original G4 comic. Therefore they're writing what they are comfortable with. But just as someone who grew up with G1 - I feel like if you're referencing something that happened in G1, with G1 characters and such, use the right ones? Use the actual witches and the actual ponies?

Let's not forget though that age-wise, the kids who grew up with G1 are not going to be the target demographic. The target audience probably don't know or don't care that much about those details. So maybe it's just not important, or maybe it's this eternal obsession we see in media at the moment to take something original and add a new 'twist' to it. Like writing professional fanfiction? I feel there's a fair bit of that around with all the rehashed remakes we've seen in recent years.

I don't actually like the movie, and I don't really care for the characterisation of the original ponies involved in it, as, aside Wind Whistler, I prefer the UK comic iterations of all of them. BUT...am I right in thinking that all the concept six can now be bought as retro ponies? So could that be a factor? Firefly, Surprise, Posey, Twilight,  Sparkler...Applejack. Yes, they can. Whereas...that's not true for most of the characters in the movie? Could that be a factor in choosing these?

Even if that is the case, though, I'm more bothered by the repackaging of G1 into the forced framework of G4 (ie by using the concept 6 in a story they don't belong in) than I am the comic using a G1 concept. It doesn't matter how you dress it up, it's still trampling over people's childhoods :/
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on August 28, 2021, 09:05:24 PM
I don't care so much which ponies they use... If they're going with the movie setting then it'd probably make the most sense to use Wind Whistler, Morning Glory etc, but the concept ponies, sure, okay, why not. I could see the Basic Fun toys playing a part here too, that definitely seems plausible.. I don't *think* any of the ponies in the movie, have been remade by Basic Fun (yet?). Though tbh I think they're less bothered about which toy is on the shop shelves, and more concerned with which ponies the G4 crowd will ~recognize~ -_-

but that aside, it's all these new chars I don't *get*. Like I said, maybe it'll make perfect sense when we've actually read the story, I don't know, but just going off the info we have now... why make up *new* witches? What difference does it make?? It just seems needlessly overcomplicated... If they just wanted to use the general idea, and no specific characters etc from the movie, then why market it as a G1/G4 crossover in the first place...? I just find it all weird.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Ragamuffin on August 28, 2021, 10:37:31 PM
I don't care so much which ponies they use... If they're going with the movie setting then it'd probably make the most sense to use Wind Whistler, Morning Glory etc, but the concept ponies, sure, okay, why not. I could see the Basic Fun toys playing a part here too, that definitely seems plausible.. I don't *think* any of the ponies in the movie, have been remade by Basic Fun (yet?). Though tbh I think they're less bothered about which toy is on the shop shelves, and more concerned with which ponies the G4 crowd will ~recognize~ -_-

but that aside, it's all these new chars I don't *get*. Like I said, maybe it'll make perfect sense when we've actually read the story, I don't know, but just going off the info we have now... why make up *new* witches? What difference does it make?? It just seems needlessly overcomplicated... If they just wanted to use the general idea, and no specific characters etc from the movie, then why market it as a G1/G4 crossover in the first place...? I just find it all weird.

Gusty, Fizzy, and Sweet Stuff come to mind. :) But Wind Whistler, Baby Lickety Split, Rosedust, Spike, Shady... Megan... nope...

Maybe they'll bring back Tirek and Grogar and the Smooze, too, but only their G4 versions. :lmao: For really no reason other than it's the crossover and you have to cram as many references as possible... (but only the ones that G4 fans will know)?
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on August 29, 2021, 12:21:39 AM
Oh duh - I can't believe I forgot the Twinkle Eyes! :blush: And yeah, Gusty too, you're right.

I was wondering about the G1 characters G4.... "repurposed", too. Especially the Smooze, since that was the witches' thing - feels like that'll come up, at least... though for some reason, I get the feeling it'll just be brought up quickly for a brief joke and then dropped again. :shrug:
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Dragonflitter on August 30, 2021, 04:13:41 AM
I just find it weird, it's meant to be a G1 crossover thing and then they make up a bunch of new characters instead of using the established cast? They didn't do this with the Transformers crossover comic, right? I saw some panels from that and it looked like the usual cast, no new guys. :/ Like, I'm not asking for a strict adherence to the G1 cartoons here, I don't mind keeping things flexible, but what is the point of doing a cross-gen thing if you're just going to be using stuff loosely based on G1?? I don't get it.

IDW recently has been doing a lot of crossovers. They did a 5-issue Transformers/Ghostbusters crossover and I read it, I found it interesting that the "main character" on the Transformers side of it was an entirely new character they made up just for the comic. And they put out a toy of him, too! (Not a widely released one. I think it was some convention exclusive.)

My point is that it's not unusual to have new characters for these sort of retro stories. Maybe in fact they did choose the "retro Mane Six" just so that Basic Fun or Hasbro could do some sort of toy of them in the future, or maybe it was for another reason. Maybe it just made sense to the plotline of the story within the comic that these two groups of ponies will team up across generations! Only time will tell. :)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Bathtub on September 10, 2021, 06:15:06 AM
I love it! Maybe we'll get to see Sparkler say "way to go Fluttershy you messed up again!" 

Also I'll compare them to the G1s in my UK annuals....wait a minute....How does Majesty fit in with Celestia? There can be only one, right?
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 10, 2021, 06:20:56 AM
No idea Carrehz. I like the colors on Blackbelle and Violet Shiver. Pity this is looking to be more G4 then a proper crossover.   :nope:
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on September 10, 2021, 08:25:25 AM
No idea Carrehz. I like the colors on Blackbelle and Violet Shiver. Pity this is looking to be more G4 then a proper crossover.   :nope:

I would think that would be easier for the writers, who are probably the same people, as then they don't have to do any research. But it's not a crossover really like that.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: MouseCardinal on September 10, 2021, 12:43:11 PM
No idea Carrehz. I like the colors on Blackbelle and Violet Shiver. Pity this is looking to be more G4 then a proper crossover.   :nope:
If it is then it really reduces my interest in it down to zero, lol. I was already hesitant about there being too much G4 :enraged: Ah, well. Guess it was expected
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 10, 2021, 06:04:10 PM
No idea Carrehz. I like the colors on Blackbelle and Violet Shiver. Pity this is looking to be more G4 then a proper crossover.   :nope:

I would think that would be easier for the writers, who are probably the same people, as then they don't have to do any research. But it's not a crossover really like that.


Yeah, it sure sucks that anyone crossing over two properties or generational iterations can't get off their butts and actually do research. :rolleyes:  Nm that they have a ton of easy sources to draw from, and the movie isn't some rare and expensive thing to track down, or to watch. 

This sounds essentially like legal fanfiction with no knowledge or thought put into it at all. And I've seen some truly excellent mlp cross gen fanfiction.  Even Star Wars extended universe had and used the extensive knowledge base and world building available to it, while each author gave their stories their own unique twist, and new characters.

Dunno if this will be good or not, but not impressed by the plot thus far.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 20, 2021, 06:43:29 PM
The first comic is out!
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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 20, 2021, 06:55:17 PM
The first comic is out!
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Sorry to hear it. How come?
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Dragonflitter on October 20, 2021, 08:01:13 PM
lol your opinion isn't a spoiler, tealeaf! You can share with us what you did or didn't like. :)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Ragamuffin on October 20, 2021, 08:34:16 PM
The first comic is out!
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Sorry to hear it. How come?

I haven't read it myself (yet?), but from the sounds of it, it's not very G1-y. :P The Witches aren't really witches but are apparently ponies banished to the EQG world or something? The G1 ponies haven't showed up at all yet...
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on October 20, 2021, 08:35:45 PM
I'm with you on this one, Tealeaf, honestly was surprised at HOW disappointing it was...

(Plot details under cut, I guess)

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I will say though, I did like how they included the alt. covers at the back of the comic, that was a very nice touch. Usually I just see that done with the trade paperbacks. So I'll give them that. But yeah, so far I'm not liking this whatsoever. :( I mean, I went into it with fairly low expectations (it was a "Let's see how it goes" not a "OMG I'm so excited!!" if that makes sense) but geez...
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 20, 2021, 08:45:22 PM
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Sorry to hear it. How come?

I haven't read it myself (yet?), but from the sounds of it, it's not very G1-y. :P The Witches aren't really witches but are apparently ponies banished to the EQG world or something? The G1 ponies haven't showed up at all yet...


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I'm with you on this one, Tealeaf, honestly was surprised at HOW disappointing it was...

(Plot details under cut, I guess)

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I will say though, I did like how they included the alt. covers at the back of the comic, that was a very nice touch. Usually I just see that done with the trade paperbacks. So I'll give them that. But yeah, so far I'm not liking this whatsoever. :( I mean, I went into it with fairly low expectations (it was a "Let's see how it goes" not a "OMG I'm so excited!!" if that makes sense) but geez...


Seriously? Wow, way to drop the ball IDW writers.  :nope:
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Wildshadow on October 20, 2021, 10:29:56 PM
I'm with you on this one, Tealeaf, honestly was surprised at HOW disappointing it was...

(Plot details under cut, I guess)

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I will say though, I did like how they included the alt. covers at the back of the comic, that was a very nice touch. Usually I just see that done with the trade paperbacks. So I'll give them that. But yeah, so far I'm not liking this whatsoever. :( I mean, I went into it with fairly low expectations (it was a "Let's see how it goes" not a "OMG I'm so excited!!" if that makes sense) but geez...

I'm with you 100%! I preordered the digital on iTunes. It came available at like midnight and I read past the pages they previewed before and while reading the next 3 pages I was "REALLY?!" then skipped past to see if Surprise was in the remaining pages and was disappointed I'll have to wait for the next issue though I'm DREADING what they'll do with her now.  :yikes:

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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 20, 2021, 10:46:04 PM
I didn't want to be a Debby downer! I just. I don't like how the IDW comics are now, even the past few series (including season 10) just are so boring and don't grab my attention. They throw characters in left and right as if there aren't enough characters from the past 9 seasons that at least I care MILDLY about having seen them in episodes.

That was my big problem with this comic. Who are these people? Daughters of the witches. Why not...the actual witches? They don't even resemble them, I can't pinpoint who is the daughter of who. Who's the magic rat. What's going on, I don't care.

The art was also really weak for this entry. I know it's the artists first time with ponies, but seeing what feel like stock photos pasted in every panel just takes me out of it. We've had artists with unique styles, I would have preferred to see that artists personal take on the ponies than what was essentially a DeviantArt vector comic.

If you were considering picking up this just to see G1...they're not in there. Don't bother. If you like the past few IDW comics, maybe you'll enjoy it? I just spent every page going "who cares. Who cares. Who cares"

Hopefully we see something more interesting later on, for now this just felt like another "Season Ten" issue that I read and immediately forget.

(I'm on my phone, count the spelling errors! I'm sure there's a few)

Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on October 21, 2021, 03:02:49 PM
Took the words right out of my mouth Tailrust. It's a shame cause I DID just pick this up to see what they did with G1 :( I really wanted to give it a chance but there's just no crossover in this crossover!

The witch daughters.. I really honestly feel almost like they were designed for some OTHER story but not used, and then they decided to have a G1 crossover and recycled the designs for this, even though it doesn't make sense. It'd certainly explain why they look nothing like their supposed relatives :/ Not that I was hoping for a "generation xerox" design (i.e. for the daughters to look exactly like their mothers) but come on!! I said from the get-go "why not just use the ACTUAL witches" but I was hoping it'd make sense when I'd actually read it, but man, it makes even LESS sense after reading! Geez.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Bekuno on October 25, 2021, 12:57:33 AM
I don't know if it'll be enough to sway any of you who have decided, but I wouldn't lose hope if you genuinely want to see G1 characters appear. I keep up with solicitation summary's as they appear on EQD, and you might want to see the summary for issue #4:

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I haven't had to chance to pick up this comic or the final issue of FIM yet, but maybe this won't be the worst thing? I've just been disappointed with the new artist so far.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 25, 2021, 01:29:25 AM
I'm confused.  :blink:

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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Wardah on October 25, 2021, 02:11:18 AM
I'm confused.  :blink:

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It says "and more" so the ones from the cover could be in there too.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on October 25, 2021, 01:00:39 PM
Let's not forget it was really common for later (especially post G1) releases of G1 animation on DVD/VHS to appear with completely the wrong ponies/style of ponies/utterly made up ponies on the covers, so I don't think that's a new thing.

What will matter is whether they're inside the comic.

I reserve judgement till there's more information available.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 25, 2021, 01:01:40 PM
I don't know if it'll be enough to sway any of you who have decided, but I wouldn't lose hope if you genuinely want to see G1 characters appear. I keep up with solicitation summary's as they appear on EQD, and you might want to see the summary for issue #4:

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Oh so,
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I haven't read any of the comics yet, much less this series, but however they end up doing it, I'll be ultimately fine with it, as I like the idea behind it, and if worst comes to worst and they don't portray the G1s well (not saying they won't) it is just one portrayal of them, and we still have the G1 portrayals of them and anything else we like.

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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on October 25, 2021, 02:54:59 PM
Yeah it's not particularly uncommon for comic covers to have NOTHING to do with the actual story, including featuring characters that are nowhere to be found in the actual story. (Honestly I think I've seen more "completely unrelated to the story" covers, than ones that actually WERE related to the story!) I agree it is misleading in this particular case, though.

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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on October 25, 2021, 04:53:18 PM
Probably good to remember that
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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on October 25, 2021, 07:07:31 PM
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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Wardah on October 25, 2021, 07:53:07 PM
Yeah it's not particularly uncommon for comic covers to have NOTHING to do with the actual story, including featuring characters that are nowhere to be found in the actual story. (Honestly I think I've seen more "completely unrelated to the story" covers, than ones that actually WERE related to the story!) I agree it is misleading in this particular case, though.

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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on October 25, 2021, 07:58:47 PM
Yeah it's not particularly uncommon for comic covers to have NOTHING to do with the actual story, including featuring characters that are nowhere to be found in the actual story. (Honestly I think I've seen more "completely unrelated to the story" covers, than ones that actually WERE related to the story!) I agree it is misleading in this particular case, though.

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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Wardah on October 26, 2021, 01:54:23 AM
Yeah it's not particularly uncommon for comic covers to have NOTHING to do with the actual story, including featuring characters that are nowhere to be found in the actual story. (Honestly I think I've seen more "completely unrelated to the story" covers, than ones that actually WERE related to the story!) I agree it is misleading in this particular case, though.

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[spoiler]But what I gathered from here she doesn't really have a canon personality. (Tbh I'm not super well versed in the G1 cartoon. While I am into all generations as far as the toys go I never really watched any of the cartoons before G4 and even that one I dropped off on somewhere along the way) If that's the case then while it's not the most creative move it wouldn't go against any past canon if they did that.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on October 26, 2021, 03:11:57 PM
Yeah it's not particularly uncommon for comic covers to have NOTHING to do with the actual story, including featuring characters that are nowhere to be found in the actual story. (Honestly I think I've seen more "completely unrelated to the story" covers, than ones that actually WERE related to the story!) I agree it is misleading in this particular case, though.

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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 27, 2021, 04:57:07 PM
Heh. I knew I spotted Lofty.

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Post by: MJNSEIFER on October 27, 2021, 06:03:41 PM
Heh. I knew I spotted Lofty.

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Note: Still haven't read any of it.
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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on November 04, 2021, 10:05:27 PM
Found some more covers for the upcoming issues... I found them here (https://forbiddenplanet.com/catalog/?tag=series:my-little-pony-generations&utm_medium=promotion&utm_source=342754-my-little-pony-generations-4-cover-a-cacciatore&utm_campaign=product-detail-order-related-products&samples=337255,337256,337257) (I hope that link works), not reposting all of them since most of them are just G4 stuff, no G1, but this one I had to post...

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Okay, I'm confused. Why is Morning Glory there (check the symbol, that's definitely hers) when the solicitation says Rosedust, and why is she purple and red?!?! Also this is a bit nitpicky but that body is all wrong... that's a regular earth pony body, not a flutter body... wouldn't nitpick if the artist was using their own style, but it definitely looks like they were trying to mimic the Rescue at Midnight Castle art style (which might explain why Glory's symbol is all purple instead of the star being silver, cause RaMC coloured it that way too) so.. (I know the flutters weren't in RaMC but you get what i mean, they're clearly referencing off the cartoon here) The symbol could be a goof-up or maybe a last-minute character change, or just yet another example of the covers not matching the story contents, but I'm really confused as to where they got those colours from...

And that's definitely G3 Minty, not G1 Minty. So... I'm confused, I really don't get what she's doing here.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on November 04, 2021, 10:16:33 PM
Honestly, I'm surprised anyone is surprised that it's not accurate. Again, there are a lot of issues with those kinds of illustrations on the dvd and vhs cases. Even in the later G1 comics sometimes it's a bit odd. And I'm not talking about when they've used prototypes as the base for illustrations. I'm talking about...well, we could just start with the many designs of Dazzleglow...

http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/dazzleglow.htm (http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/dazzleglow.htm)
(see bottom of page)

Point being, they're not going to get it right. Even in G1, if the pony wasn't right there in stores at that exact time (and even if it was), sometimes there were glitches. The G1 fact file has a purple Minty and a unicorn honeycomb, after all! These aren't people who have the ponies in front of them. It's a sort of miracle if they've looked at some screencaptures from the old shows, tbh.

The one confusion for me is probably morning glory, but it also seems like they don't know how to draw her.  So possibly they haven't had access to the movie...
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 04, 2021, 10:50:04 PM
Wth?That's Morning Glory? Coulda fooled me! I honestly had no idea who that was supposed to be. Are we sure that's not a miscolored Forget-Me-Not? And who's that towards the back? Baby Cuddles? The only one I recognize is Glory. And I think that's supposed to be either Cotton Candy or Baby Lickety-split.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on November 04, 2021, 11:01:17 PM
Pink pony is cotton candy looking. Honestly I think the artist is probably out of their comfort zone in drawing outside of the gen 4 style lol
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on November 04, 2021, 11:03:53 PM
Pink pony is cotton candy looking. Honestly I think the artist is probably out of their comfort zone in drawing outside of the gen 4 style lol

I agree, it seems like cotton candy to me.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 04, 2021, 11:05:03 PM
Honestly, I'm surprised anyone is surprised that it's not accurate. Again, there are a lot of issues with those kinds of illustrations on the dvd and vhs cases. Even in the later G1 comics sometimes it's a bit odd. And I'm not talking about when they've used prototypes as the base for illustrations. I'm talking about...well, we could just start with the many designs of Dazzleglow...

http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/dazzleglow.htm (http://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/dazzleglow.htm)
(see bottom of page)

Point being, they're not going to get it right. Even in G1, if the pony wasn't right there in stores at that exact time (and even if it was), sometimes there were glitches. The G1 fact file has a purple Minty and a unicorn honeycomb, after all! These aren't people who have the ponies in front of them. It's a sort of miracle if they've looked at some screencaptures from the old shows, tbh.

The one confusion for me is probably morning glory, but it also seems like they don't know how to draw her.  So possibly they haven't had access to the movie...


You can easily find movie clips on YouTube as well as other ways to watch it . If you catch my drift.

Pink pony is cotton candy looking. Honestly I think the artist is probably out of their comfort zone in drawing outside of the gen 4 style lol

They might not be that far outside their comfort zone  because the artwork is very nice. Its just a bit confusing.



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You know what? Nm. I guess they might have based her off a screen error.

http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/G1_Morning_Glory
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on November 04, 2021, 11:19:36 PM
...That pretty much suggests they drew her using the wiki.

Okay then. :)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 04, 2021, 11:22:38 PM
...That pretty much suggests they drew her using the wiki.

Okay then. :)

They couldn't have scrolled down a little and corrected it?  :huh:
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Ragamuffin on November 04, 2021, 11:23:40 PM
I was thinking maybe Sundance, but an incorrect Cotton Candy seems more likely. ;) I associate Cotton Candy with having hair closer to her coat colour, but I guess if you're referencing the 25th Anniversary Repro, maybe not. :lol:


As for Morning Glory, it looks like Morning Glory to me, but they used her cartoon colours. Same exact colours... maybe directly from this screenshot from My Little Wiki? ;) Double checked with the movie and End of Flutter Valley and it just seems like this is a weird screenshot with weird colours, her actual colours seem to be more green and accurate in the cartoon...

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...That pretty much suggests they drew her using the wiki.

Okay then. :)

Posted just as I finished this comment haha
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 04, 2021, 11:26:11 PM
I know I've been totally ripping on these people here, but is it wrong that I'm kinda amused that they based her off a color error? :lol:
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on November 04, 2021, 11:27:45 PM
If they're using the wiki, no wonder they're confused. I'm not insulting the wiki, but it's full of G1 ponies in sets and based around the toyline, and they're hopping all over the place with which ponies they want to use...

Yeah, that makes sense somehow.

But I agree with LAW, that's quite amusing. To use the MLW screengrab, the one image that doesn't reflect Morning Glory.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Ragamuffin on November 04, 2021, 11:34:53 PM
If they're using the wiki, no wonder they're confused. I'm not insulting the wiki, but it's full of G1 ponies in sets and based around the toyline, and they're hopping all over the place with which ponies they want to use...

Yeah, that makes sense somehow.

But I agree with LAW, that's quite amusing. To use the MLW screengrab, the one image that doesn't reflect Morning Glory.

This makes redhead Morning Glory somewhat canon... waiting for customs to be made... :devious:
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on November 04, 2021, 11:40:26 PM
No...it just exposes that they don't know the first thing about G1 and don't have any viable source material to use as their reference. If they did proper research on the characters they wanted to draw, then they'd probably get the colours right, whatever style they used.

It usually annoys me when collectors put random words into the search engine and just believe whatever answer it spits out, but this...is on a whole new level.

I don't even know what to think.
(But go mad on the customs anyway xD)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 04, 2021, 11:42:37 PM
No...it just exposes that they don't know the first thing about G1 and don't have any viable source material to use as their reference. If they did proper research on the characters they wanted to draw, then they'd probably get the colours right, whatever style they used.

It usually annoys me when collectors put random words into the search engine and just believe whatever answer it spits out, but this...is on a whole new level.

I don't even know what to think.
(But go mad on the customs anyway xD)

Would those customs be titled Screen Error Morning Glory?  :P
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on November 05, 2021, 12:11:12 AM
No...it just exposes that they don't know the first thing about G1 and don't have any viable source material to use as their reference. If they did proper research on the characters they wanted to draw, then they'd probably get the colours right, whatever style they used.

It usually annoys me when collectors put random words into the search engine and just believe whatever answer it spits out, but this...is on a whole new level.

I don't even know what to think.
(But go mad on the customs anyway xD)

Would those customs be titled Screen Error Morning Glory?  :P

Abbreviated to Scrorny.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 05, 2021, 12:15:09 AM
No...it just exposes that they don't know the first thing about G1 and don't have any viable source material to use as their reference. If they did proper research on the characters they wanted to draw, then they'd probably get the colours right, whatever style they used.

It usually annoys me when collectors put random words into the search engine and just believe whatever answer it spits out, but this...is on a whole new level.

I don't even know what to think.
(But go mad on the customs anyway xD)

Would those customs be titled Screen Error Morning Glory?  :P

Abbreviated to Scrorny.

Scrorny! :snicker:
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on November 05, 2021, 02:36:49 PM
Dang, you're right, looks like they DID use that wonky screengrab as a ref! I was racking my brains trying to figure out where the heck the colours could've come from, since everyone else is pretty much the right colours and I couldn't recall Morning Glory ever going purple.. that cap must've come from a bad/low quality TV grab or something, I'm pretty sure her colours are consistent in the series.

Although, going off how they drew her wings, it looks like they DID look up more than one ref pic so... weird. Maybe someone else coloured it. Her colours aren't that off in the screenshot either... It's just odd since CC and Glory are drawn pretty much exactly how they appear in RaMC:

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right down to the ribbon colours, and then there's purple MG and it's just... *shakes head*
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Wildshadow on November 05, 2021, 03:27:56 PM
Oh geeze  :hmm:

I'm surprised they didn't some how add Starlite running on the rainbow.

I'm glad I wasn't expecting to enjoy this comic. Now I'm only for the Volcano and any signs of Surprise, even if they mess her up. :zzz:
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 05, 2021, 05:00:46 PM
I'm afraid now that they're just going to color morning glory wrong when she appears in the actual comic! That feels like a pretty dire error. They have to provide cover artists with some sort of colors, right?
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 05, 2021, 05:16:53 PM
I'd love a new pony in those colors. Reminds me of Twist. Maybe G5 will finally see a resurgence of flutter ponies? Make the wings translucent and colorful like sun catchers.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on November 05, 2021, 08:09:52 PM
I'll admit, I'm not entirely sure how comic covers work these days, with all the variant covers and such. Some of the ones I've seen (not for MLP specifically but in general) definitely seem to have been a case of "We gave the artists free reign" idk if they'd have been regulating colours... but yeah you'd have thought someone would have pointed it out. :p I'm still curious as to why it's Morning Glory at all since the solicitation said it was *Rosedust* in the story? Not that there's anything wrong with them having both but I dunno, it just seems weird.

(Well.... actually I'd prefer they keep away from MG since she's my favourite and I don't want them to mess her up, but.. you know what I mean. :silly:)

I hope they get it right for the comic itself, at least. Heck maybe they could fix the cover before it goes to print if they realize it's messed up in time, somehow I feel like they probably won't bother to though x) I really wouldn't nitpick if it was just a slight colour error but come on... would it really have killed them to do more than 0.2 seconds of research on this? ^^;;;
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on November 05, 2021, 08:35:49 PM
I can completely believe they did 0.2 seconds of research on it. This is the world we live in now. I swear, if people did more than 0.2 seconds of research on their pony finds and collections, I'd probably be able to retire. I'd certainly have a party. It's the fault of google. The instant answer is better than the one that takes time, and this is kind of the proof of it.

Also, I don't think they really think our generation will notice, or care, about this as an entity. And there's no real recognition or respect for G1 as a thing in the whole construction of this. They're just tools to try and construct their own version of the narrative. It's not really like they've seriously tried (from what we've seen so far) to build a cohesive cast or narrative for this collab.

Instead of having a selection of specific ponies and sticking to it and illustrating them in the way they have the M6, they've been all over the place.

Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 06, 2021, 03:45:34 PM
I can completely believe they did 0.2 seconds of research on it. This is the world we live in now. I swear, if people did more than 0.2 seconds of research on their pony finds and collections, I'd probably be able to retire. I'd certainly have a party. It's the fault of google. The instant answer is better than the one that takes time, and this is kind of the proof of it.

Also, I don't think they really think our generation will notice, or care, about this as an entity. And there's no real recognition or respect for G1 as a thing in the whole construction of this. They're just tools to try and construct their own version of the narrative. It's not really like they've seriously tried (from what we've seen so far) to build a cohesive cast or narrative for this collab.

Instead of having a selection of specific ponies and sticking to it and illustrating them in the way they have the M6, they've been all over the place.


I've a feeling this little "project" will go out with barely a whimper anyway. It certainly didn't come in with a bang.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Wildshadow on November 18, 2021, 10:39:42 PM
The next issue is another big snooze fest.... VERY predictable and all the modern things in the dialog of the daughters is ANNOYING.

I only like Violet Shiver because I love winter/snow/ice stuff...

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I fear I already know what's going to happen in the next issue  :zzz:
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Dragonflitter on November 19, 2021, 04:00:07 PM
My spoiler-y review!

Issue 1:
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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on November 19, 2021, 04:27:22 PM
Thanks for the detailed review, Dragonflitter ;)

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On the End of Flutter Valley, @Wildshadow - that was quite dull, boring and neverending as a plot anyway. Probably a bad choice to use as a basis.

For the most part the witches and the smooze (and even Megan, honestly) didn't have much presence in the UK comic, not even around the time the movie was out. But I do remember there was one MLP&Friends issue which for some reason went into the whole idea of the smooze and ponies being attacked from it, including Majesty, who among others was knocked out by it. The weird thing about this story for me was that it was some time after the movie had left cinemas - I'm talking years - and it was just so...out of sync with the comic in general?

The description of this makes me feel the same.

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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 19, 2021, 05:26:44 PM
Forgot to say the second issue came out the other day. Love your review, Dragonflitter!

Total snooze fest all around. It's weird seeing the new ponies drawn freshly but the mane 6 + Starlight being drawn to mimic stock images. I can point out some instances of tracing or heavily referencing popular google image results, but for some reason the new ponies don't get this treatment?
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Wildshadow on November 19, 2021, 06:08:00 PM
My spoiler-y review!

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On the End of Flutter Valley, @Wildshadow - that was quite dull, boring and neverending as a plot anyway. Probably a bad choice to use as a basis.


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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Taffeta on November 19, 2021, 06:09:39 PM
@Wildshadow - I meant as their basis, not yours ;) Sorry :)
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 19, 2021, 06:27:55 PM
This sounds like a mess, and not even in the surreal alice in wonderland or crack fic way. At least there's an entertaining possum.
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Post by: MJNSEIFER on November 19, 2021, 10:26:27 PM
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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Dragonflitter on January 08, 2022, 02:34:52 AM
Soooooooo... Issue 3 has landed and we FINALLY see the G1 ponies! ...in one panel on the last page of this issue.  -_- Of this 5-issue series. Sigh.

You know I purposely went into this with low expectations, and yet I still feel disappointed...

The G1 arrival:

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My spoiler-y review of Issue 3:


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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on January 08, 2022, 05:46:54 AM
I kinda like Scrorny. She reminds me of

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Courtesy of https://mlpfactfile.blogspot.com/2011 (https://mlpfactfile.blogspot.com/2011)

But yeah, not sure about the rest of it.
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Post by: Carrehz on January 08, 2022, 03:17:07 PM
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Glad I decided to drop this one. When it became clear they didn't have much interest in actually making the crossover a crossover, I cancelled my subscription :P I'll probably read the last 3 issues myself after the series has finished.
Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 08, 2022, 03:21:11 PM
Why do Gusty and Lofty have Galaxy's symbol? Where are Galaxy's jewel eyes? Why are Twilight and Queen Rosedust earth ponies? This sucks. You can't even call it an animation error if it's a static image.
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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Wildshadow on January 15, 2022, 04:39:47 AM
Well the digital has a three page preview of the 4th comic… ….it’s…

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:cold:

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Post by: SpacePinto on January 15, 2022, 04:53:58 AM
To be honest, I expected much worse from them.
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 15, 2022, 05:36:37 AM
I'm surprised they tossed in a Tales pony.
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Post by: Artemesia's Garden on January 15, 2022, 07:09:41 AM
@Wildshadow

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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Carrehz on January 15, 2022, 02:20:59 PM
Re: spoilers

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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: MJNSEIFER on January 15, 2022, 05:11:17 PM
Well the digital has a three page preview of the 4th comic… ….it’s…

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:cold:

Still haven't read it, but...

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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
Post by: Wildshadow on January 15, 2022, 08:47:08 PM
Well the digital has a three page preview of the 4th comic… ….it’s…

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:cold:

Still haven't read it, but...

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NOOO!! Ugh lost my long reply and got to do it all over  :cry:

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Title: Re: IDW to End Friendship is Magic Series-G1/G4 Crossover Mini-Series
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