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Title: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: SweetLemons on January 13, 2021, 05:46:00 AM
Welp, I expected this was gonna happen sooner or later.

A storyboard for what appears to be the G5 movie has been found. And surprise surprise, guess who’s here?
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I am not shocked in the slightest they’re here, but it seems like this movie takes place in a distant future and the older pony is telling the other pony about their accomplishments. Looks like G5 will be taking place in the FiM world.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: banditpony on January 13, 2021, 06:10:25 AM
My memory could be fuzzy, but I already thought it was confirmed they would be in it. I thought the movie would act as a bridge (this part is my own thought).

It could be possible I was just be remembering peoples assumptions too...
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: SweetLemons on January 13, 2021, 06:30:10 AM
My memory could be fuzzy, but I already thought it was confirmed they would be in it. I thought the movie would act as a bridge (this part is my own thought).

It could be possible I was just be remembering peoples assumptions too...
Hasbro noted in October that the “old cast” would be in the movie but they didn’t exactly specify which gen or which characters, and Tara Strong went on Instagram live last year and said Twilight won’t be in G5, so some people took it as the Mane 6 as we knew them wouldn’t be there. This storyboard could mean they don’t have speaking roles but appear, or Tara could have been talking about the G5 show and not the movie. In any case, this is pretty damning evidence that they’ll be there in some way, shape or form.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 13, 2021, 06:37:15 AM
I don't buy it so far. I could be wrong, but this could also be something from a scrapped episode or an old Rainbow Roadtrip thing.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Taffeta on January 13, 2021, 06:38:01 AM
I would have been surprised (happy, but surprised) if they were not there. Hasbro are entirely devoid of new ideas and cling onto G4 as their cash cow into any new generation. MLP is now forever tied to the mane 6 and their annoying take on friendship. Which is a shame, but hey. If it is just a case of here are those characters from the past, but we're moving on now to something else and that's the only time we'll ever see them - fine.

If the new characters are descended from the M6 or it keeps referring back to them/results in mass merchandising of the M6 in G5, then it's not so fine with me.

Whether this is from G5 or not doesn't really matter all that much. I don't see G5 being anything too innovative, since G4 basically did nothing new or innovative after about year 3.

(And I have tried to be fair to PL, but I saw one of the eps on pop the other day and I couldn't watch it for more than a couple of minutes before turning it off. It hurt my ears, my eyes, my brain...I don't even know what to say about it >< .It was a couple of minutes of complete sensory overload on my TV screen. I didn't like FIM, and sometimes the plotline annoyed me, but watching an episode never had that impact on my brain. It wasn't the plot of the episode, it was the "noise" of it, visually and audially. I'm not sure how else to explain it but I had to turn it off. It makes me wonder if that was just me, I just hit a bad episode or if PL is just really not autism-friendly).

Of course, if Hasbro wanted to exploit its history, it could have dug back further and added stories from G1 and G3 (they don't recognise G2 in the US) as well, and tied them in also. So there were heroes from all past generations. But that won't happen, because Hasbro are still infatuated with pinkie pie and probably think she's funnier than most of the kids ever did.

I think they're also hoping to hang on to bronies by pretending like their generation is still continuing.

...We'll see. Reserving judgement till I see the toyline. Not overly interested in the propaganda spiel. I've never been a big fan of the animated series or specials for any MLP generation, and G4 especially so, so for me it will be about what the toyline puts out.

Variety and brushables, with any luck. And absolutely no M6.

Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: SweetLemons on January 13, 2021, 06:48:38 AM
I don't buy it so far. I could be wrong, but this could also be something from a scrapped episode or an old Rainbow Roadtrip thing.
The person who worked on this storyboard works for Boulder Animation, who wasn’t involved with the production on FiM. And it was noted on their Linkedin page that they were working on a CGI theatrical film for Boulder, Boulder’s only working on one theatrical film at the moment.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 13, 2021, 06:50:26 AM
🤔 Who exactly was working on the storyboard? Very interesting. There is always still a chance that this scene from the movie was scrapped but this gives more weight to it than the storyboard itself.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: SweetLemons on January 13, 2021, 06:59:58 AM
🤔 Who exactly was working on the storyboard? Very interesting. There is always still a chance that this scene from the movie was scrapped but this gives more weight to it than the storyboard itself.
Her name is Marylene Sun (https://fr.linkedin.com/in/marylene-sun-60aa87136), and she worked at Boulder for 2 years. This storyboard was uploaded to the internet in April of 2020, and she left around 2019, so it’s possible this scene could have been cut from the film, but since Hasbro mentioned the “old cast” being in the film my money is still on the Mane 6 being in the movie in a scene like this.


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...We'll see. Reserving judgement till I see the toyline. Not overly interested in the propaganda spiel. I've never been a big fan of the animated series or specials for any MLP generation, and G4 especially so, so for me it will be about what the toyline puts out.

Variety and brushables, with any luck. And absolutely no M6.

Agreed. Even as a big G4 animation fan, over the years I’ve become more of a fan of the toys than anything. What make it breaks G5 for me will be the brushables and if they’re cute or not. Of course, I’ll still consume the animated media but if the brushables have poor hair quality/look gross I’ll steer clear of them.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: banditpony on January 13, 2021, 07:30:54 AM
My memory could be fuzzy, but I already thought it was confirmed they would be in it. I thought the movie would act as a bridge (this part is my own thought).

It could be possible I was just be remembering peoples assumptions too...
Hasbro noted in October that the “old cast” would be in the movie but they didn’t exactly specify which gen or which characters, and Tara Strong went on Instagram live last year and said Twilight won’t be in G5, so some people took it as the Mane 6 as we knew them wouldn’t be there. This storyboard could mean they don’t have speaking roles but appear, or Tara could have been talking about the G5 show and not the movie. In any case, this is pretty damning evidence that they’ll be there in some way, shape or form.

That's what I was thinking of, thank you.

:shrug: I don't find it to be a big deal if they are in the movie. I'm over G4, but a cameo isn't going to hurt anything. It would make sense more than anything since G4 was so big.




Off topic, but does anyone know how to make links say something instead of the direct url? The whole link looks weird  -_-

link text here (https://fr.linkedin.com/in/marylene-sun-60aa87136)
^ quote that to see the link example.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 13, 2021, 07:38:19 AM
Looks like one of those frenetic high octane things. More like that icky PL. Unless that's what G5 is going to be. Wouldn't that be a shame?
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: SweetLemons on January 13, 2021, 07:48:16 AM
My memory could be fuzzy, but I already thought it was confirmed they would be in it. I thought the movie would act as a bridge (this part is my own thought).

It could be possible I was just be remembering peoples assumptions too...
Hasbro noted in October that the “old cast” would be in the movie but they didn’t exactly specify which gen or which characters, and Tara Strong went on Instagram live last year and said Twilight won’t be in G5, so some people took it as the Mane 6 as we knew them wouldn’t be there. This storyboard could mean they don’t have speaking roles but appear, or Tara could have been talking about the G5 show and not the movie. In any case, this is pretty damning evidence that they’ll be there in some way, shape or form.

That's what I was thinking of, thank you.

:shrug: I don't find it to be a big deal if they are in the movie. I'm over G4, but a cameo isn't going to hurt anything. It would make sense more than anything since G4 was so big.

First off, thank you for the tip! Much appreciated! :biggrin:

And I agree. I’m glad that out of all the options they had for continuing the FiM legacy, they chose the one that makes sense. G5’s animated media will probably be a Legend of Korra/Next Generation for FiM instead of being that “Oh Twilight has no wings and doesn’t read and Applejack likes oranges now!” thing they tried to do early on with G5. I wholeheartedly understand the frustration with the Mane 6 clouding up the toys with pointless rehashes over and over again, and I really hope Hasbro learned their lesson with the decline in MLP toy sales from the last 3 years that selling kids the same 6 characters over and over again gets tiring to even them. If the Mane 6 show up maybe once every now and then in a brushable wave or 2 I’d be okay with that, but we really don’t need them at the forefront again, and it seems like they understand that. It’s time for some new blood in this franchise. Plus, like it or not FiM was successful. Even though we all agree it would be best to move on from the show it was very popular. It would be strange if they didn’t want to continue its legacy.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Minty_Magic on January 13, 2021, 08:00:49 AM
Um. I really hope this isn’t what we’re getting. Art style looks pretty darn similar to G4. I was hoping for something new...I knew G4 cast would be in the movie to bridge the generations or whatever, but idk how I feel about this version where it looks like new ponies are telling their stories or obsessing over them. Gives a lot of room to just..shift the focus back to the mane 6 and have the new characters not really shine. I mean frankly....this segment just looks like a clumsy brony self insert into the FiM world to me. :huh: Maybe it’s better within context.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Carrehz on January 13, 2021, 08:21:22 AM
Oh wow, it's a full animatic. From the title I was expecting one or two board panels.

I wish I could say I was surprised the main 6 are there, but... I'm not, I expected this all along. :shrug: Otherwise this doesn't really tell me anything... dunno what to make of it.

I did notice that at least in one shot it looked like Rarity had feathered hooves a la G4.5 so I don't think this is something cut from G4?

Art style looks pretty darn similar to G4.

keep in mind that a storyboard's art style isn't necessarily indicative of what the final product'll look like - some are rougher than others. though I think G5's art style probably will be pretty close to G4's >_<
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 13, 2021, 08:22:34 AM
Um. I really hope this isn’t what we’re getting. Art style looks pretty darn similar to G4. I was hoping for something new...I knew G4 cast would be in the movie to bridge the generations or whatever, but idk how I feel about this version where it looks like new ponies are telling their stories or obsessing over them. Gives a lot of room to just..shift the focus back to the mane 6 and have the new characters not really shine. I mean frankly....this segment just looks like a clumsy brony self insert into the FiM world to me. :huh: Maybe it’s better within context.

:lol:
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 13, 2021, 08:26:29 AM
Thank you for the further information, Sweet! I was disbelieving at first because I feel like so many people would jump to call anything nowadays a G5 leak, but this is pretty damning evidence. I'm adding it to my Leaks page on the G5mlp.fandom site for now.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Wardah on January 13, 2021, 08:51:27 AM
(And I have tried to be fair to PL, but I saw one of the eps on pop the other day and I couldn't watch it for more than a couple of minutes before turning it off. It hurt my ears, my eyes, my brain...I don't even know what to say about it >< .It was a couple of minutes of complete sensory overload on my TV screen. I didn't like FIM, and sometimes the plotline annoyed me, but watching an episode never had that impact on my brain. It wasn't the plot of the episode, it was the "noise" of it, visually and audially. I'm not sure how else to explain it but I had to turn it off. It makes me wonder if that was just me, I just hit a bad episode or if PL is just really not autism-friendly).

See this is a perfect example of why I actually dislike the term "autism-friendly" despite having autism myself. What causes sensory issues for one autistic person might not cause them for another and that's not even including people with hyposensitivity.

As for the animatic it looks like they might be taking the term "generation" more literally this time. As long as the main focus is on a new cast I could care less if the G4 is in the background. They just better stay in the background.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: PinkieLopBun on January 13, 2021, 09:10:08 AM
My memory could be fuzzy, but I already thought it was confirmed they would be in it. I thought the movie would act as a bridge (this part is my own thought).

It could be possible I was just be remembering peoples assumptions too...
Hasbro noted in October that the “old cast” would be in the movie but they didn’t exactly specify which gen or which characters, and Tara Strong went on Instagram live last year and said Twilight won’t be in G5, so some people took it as the Mane 6 as we knew them wouldn’t be there. This storyboard could mean they don’t have speaking roles but appear, or Tara could have been talking about the G5 show and not the movie. In any case, this is pretty damning evidence that they’ll be there in some way, shape or form.
What I’m thinking happened is that she wasn’t asked to come back and assumed Twilight wasn’t going to appear at all. She could be voiced by someone else. I don’t think Tara really knows any more about G5 than we do.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Taffeta on January 13, 2021, 01:46:56 PM
MLP has never needed to cling onto a previous generation before, although there have sometimes been throwbacks. I don't think we need a world that grows out of FIM-world, but it's better than just rehashing the M6 and their world as is.

The idea of a brony inserting themselves into G5 to render the world they want is the same as Faust did from G1 to G4, albeit her memories of G1 are very personal to her childhood, rather than an actual representation of the G1 most of us experienced. I suppose the difference here is that FIM is a pretty fixed canon framework on which to build. You don't have to dig around in various canons or pick one concept to build from FIM. FIM has dominated the narrative for G4 since the beginning, which does make it easier.

I remember someone saying that there would never be a toy like MLP created today, in the way G1 was created. It's probably true since the emphasis between TV show/franchise and toy has changed so much over time. I just hope that whatever form G5 takes - and I have a lot of personal thoughts on G4 and G5 and the relationship which are not really positive - it caters to the kids that it's aimed at.

What I don't want to see from G5 is any attempt to cater to adults. Not us. Not bronies. Nothing like that. It's a kid's show. If we like it, or watch it, or collect the toys, that's up to us. But I hated how twisted FIM concepts became in G4 because of adult interest, and that ruins it for the market that it's really for.

So whatever the kids want is what G5 should be. I would not want a brony writing the series for that reason more than anything. Faust was a child with G1 and had years on which to build before evolving that idea. This is a bit more close together, and yeah. I guess we'll see if that is how it works out. It may turn out different. Or it may not.

(And I have tried to be fair to PL, but I saw one of the eps on pop the other day and I couldn't watch it for more than a couple of minutes before turning it off. It hurt my ears, my eyes, my brain...I don't even know what to say about it >< .It was a couple of minutes of complete sensory overload on my TV screen. I didn't like FIM, and sometimes the plotline annoyed me, but watching an episode never had that impact on my brain. It wasn't the plot of the episode, it was the "noise" of it, visually and audially. I'm not sure how else to explain it but I had to turn it off. It makes me wonder if that was just me, I just hit a bad episode or if PL is just really not autism-friendly).

See this is a perfect example of why I actually dislike the term "autism-friendly" despite having autism myself. What causes sensory issues for one autistic person might not cause them for another and that's not even including people with hyposensitivity.


Not really understanding why you said that. I was pretty clear in what I said that I wasn't sure if it was my problem or something more widespread for other people on the spectrum.

I don't really like the term either, in context with generalisations - but since I didn't do that, your reply doesn't make any sense.

If you like and enjoy PL that's fine. I wasn't insulting it. I was just sharing a personal experience, which is in fact my right to do.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Lilja on January 13, 2021, 01:48:43 PM
The animatic looks fine to me, can't really determine what the final animation will look like based on it.

The concept is a bit weird though. While I get that FiM has been by far the most successful MLP tie-in cartoon, due to how long it went on the lore became very convoluted. I'd rather see a clean slate, a new world with new interpretations of the characters rather than the same ones. Especially if they want to introduce MLP to a new generation of children it doesn't make sense to have it be so rooted in the old universe. But it all depends on how they go about it. It could still work and they may not have to follow the rules of FiM's world so slavishly. I'm really hyped for it though! Hoping it'll be at least close to as well written as FiM was.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Wardah on January 13, 2021, 02:49:38 PM
(And I have tried to be fair to PL, but I saw one of the eps on pop the other day and I couldn't watch it for more than a couple of minutes before turning it off. It hurt my ears, my eyes, my brain...I don't even know what to say about it >< .It was a couple of minutes of complete sensory overload on my TV screen. I didn't like FIM, and sometimes the plotline annoyed me, but watching an episode never had that impact on my brain. It wasn't the plot of the episode, it was the "noise" of it, visually and audially. I'm not sure how else to explain it but I had to turn it off. It makes me wonder if that was just me, I just hit a bad episode or if PL is just really not autism-friendly).

See this is a perfect example of why I actually dislike the term "autism-friendly" despite having autism myself. What causes sensory issues for one autistic person might not cause them for another and that's not even including people with hyposensitivity.


Not really understanding why you said that. I was pretty clear in what I said that I wasn't sure if it was my problem or something more widespread for other people on the spectrum.

I don't really like the term either, in context with generalisations - but since I didn't do that, your reply doesn't make any sense.

If you like and enjoy PL that's fine. I wasn't insulting it. I was just sharing a personal experience, which is in fact my right to do.

I was more just explaining my general dislike of the term than anything to really do with PL. I'm kinda neutral on PL as far as the animation goes. It didn't bother me but it's not really something I'd seek out and watch again.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: starrynights on January 13, 2021, 03:41:15 PM
I like the art style of it. I don't mind it being set in the FiM universe at all, as long as the Mane 6 isn't constantly there.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on January 13, 2021, 04:31:09 PM
i don't think there are enough words that describe NO
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: MintyMyndi on January 13, 2021, 04:52:18 PM
I hope the Mane 6 thing ends up being scrapped, but I'll make do if it doesn't. If the art style is too similar to G4, though, I'd be pretty disappointed. Not that G4 is necessarily a bad art style; I just really want to see a new style! I really hope this is either scrapped, fake (unlikely), or misleading due to lack of context. There's so much G4 and there has been for a decade. I'm ready for something new. I can just hold out hope that there will be more character variety, or at least a new cast of main characters... The latter is probably the case, if I had to pick one, but it's just too early to tell. I'd be sad to see the same universe with the same rules and the same art style...
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: otocolobus_manul on January 13, 2021, 05:14:33 PM
Remember that meme that floats around every time a new season of Sponegbob season is confirmed - the “Spongebob begs Nickelodeon to kill him but Nickelodeon refuses, keeping him alive” one? That’s how I feel about this. They had their story told. It ended perfectly. Let them rest.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 13, 2021, 07:26:18 PM
i don't think there are enough words that describe NO

Its a good thing this is an international board. We can ask others how to say no in their languages.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Nemesis on January 13, 2021, 08:30:50 PM
Weeeeeell... I really dislike the similarity to FiM’s animation and aesthetic. That’s the big thing that worries me. I hope it’s just a placeholder for whatever the finalized style will be... After ten years, it feels stale. Very stale.

I don’t mind the inclusion of the M6 as a “Long ago, the mythical heroes of Equestria...” kind of thing, like what they did with Star Swirl and company in later seasons... Hasbro already stated that the movie would serve as a “bridge”, IIRC. If they hang on to Equestria, I hope we’ll see more of the dragons, changelings, and other species that were introduced in the show but largely ignored in the toyline. I can understand Hasbro wanting to hang on to some of the lore that FiM built up, since the show was very successful.

What I don't want to see from G5 is any attempt to cater to adults. Not us. Not bronies. Nothing like that. It's a kid's show. If we like it, or watch it, or collect the toys, that's up to us. But I hated how twisted FIM concepts became in G4 because of adult interest, and that ruins it for the market that it's really for.

This. If Hasbro wants to pander to adults, then they should do it by releasing collectibles and toys skewed towards that demographic (like the GoH statues or the nostalgia merch), not by trying to warp the whole franchise into Hot Topic fodder. :P
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Ragamuffin on January 14, 2021, 12:39:01 AM
I hope the style isn't close to G4 but keep in mind the movie is CGI so style/"on-model" accuracy isn't that important. ;) For example, the Toy Story 4 storyboards look like extremely generic cartoons, they barely resemble the final product at all! The full scene comparison is on Pixar's official YouTube channel if you're curious.

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As for the tone it looks like something for a song, so the animation being high-energy would be expected. If this turns out to be something that's in the final movie, it's cool, but it doesn't really tell us much right now.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: SunPony on January 14, 2021, 05:03:34 AM
Hmm, it almost looks to me like a father-daughter pair.  Or maybe big brother-little sister.  But the drawings are so vague being a storyboard, as Ragamuffin says... Maybe my imagination is running away with me. 
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: StarSwirl05 on January 14, 2021, 05:57:38 AM
I think I'd be okay with a sort-of "passing of the torch" bit at the beginning where the M6 essentially tell the new group they're in charge and whatnot. If they take up much of the movie, that'll be a huge letdown.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Harmonie on January 14, 2021, 06:02:04 AM
Hm... Well I'd prefer a G4-like style versus G4.5 or anything even worse than G4.5.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Carrehz on January 14, 2021, 07:21:36 AM
Hmm, it almost looks to me like a father-daughter pair.  Or maybe big brother-little sister.  But the drawings are so vague being a storyboard, as Ragamuffin says... Maybe my imagination is running away with me.

I thought this, too! The bigger pony definitely looks like a boy, to me.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Leave a Whisper on January 14, 2021, 07:24:32 AM
Why does the not pony thing look like it has an arm and ellbow?

Well, if this is true and those human-faced mutants are an indication of what the next gen looks like, Hasbro won't be getting my money. Why do they hate such beautiful animals? These are seriously gross.

Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Nemesis on January 14, 2021, 08:06:53 AM
I have both fond and not-so-fond memories of G4, so my feelings are mixed... On the one hand, it’s kind of epic to have a new story set in the (distant?) future of a previous gen, but on the other, it makes me scared that G5 will just feel like more of the same. :/

On a positive note, I love that the older pony in the storyboard is using toy ponies to tell the younger one about the M6. It’s almost like a meta nod to the toyline. XD

Ragamuffin: That makes sense. I hope the final product ditches the overall proportions and look of FiM, in favor of something new.
Title: Re: Alleged G5 Storyboard has been found
Post by: Lilja on January 14, 2021, 10:44:56 AM
I can't help but wonder how the Mane 6 are going to tie in to the new cast and their adventures. Having them be legendary heroes that they new protagonist looks up to is weird enough, but it would be even weirder to have them there if they're not going to play into the overall story somehow. I'm guessing the new main cast will be a group of at least around six ponies too. So that would be a lot of characters to focus on if the old Mane 6 will also be there in some capacity. And having old legends set adventures in motion in the present was how FiM started out, and it was something they returned to many times for their season premieres and finales. Would be nice to see something different for the premiere of G5, but we'll see how it turns out.
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