I am on day 3 of at-home quarantine. I feel ok, but the chest tightness persists. I still am unable to walk very much without having shortness of breath. My work (veterinary hospital) has said that they do not want me back until I have gone 72 hours past the end of symptoms. I have no idea how long that will be.
There are rumours that Oregon will be following California's recommendations of a stay-at-home order on Monday. Not sure if it is just a rumour or not but I would not be surprised if it happens. I feel like most people in my area are practicing good common sense. My mom said that the grocery stores are the cleanest she has ever seen and people are making sure to practice good social distancing.
I am on day 3 of at-home quarantine. I feel ok, but the chest tightness persists. I still am unable to walk very much without having shortness of breath. My work (veterinary hospital) has said that they do not want me back until I have gone 72 hours past the end of symptoms. I have no idea how long that will be.
There are rumours that Oregon will be following California's recommendations of a stay-at-home order on Monday. Not sure if it is just a rumour or not but I would not be surprised if it happens. I feel like most people in my area are practicing good common sense. My mom said that the grocery stores are the cleanest she has ever seen and people are making sure to practice good social distancing.
I wish the best for you and hope you feel better very soon! I used to work in the veterinary field too and I do think think society can ever truly repay those who cannot stay home during this time. :heart:
I can't believe the dumb people in this country. Ooh yeah, let's all go to the beach and to the forests.
This is how you get a lock-down. Selfish behaviour. We're over 3000 cases right now.
Edit: over 4000 :(
More beaches are closing but the majority are open. People are still visiting them even though they're closed. I was amazed by comments on a news article the number of residents complaining about it. Saying things like "what else are we supposed to do" - how about... stay home!
Any pony from Europe? No? Then just me I guess
My concern mostly panic and madness of public...
I also concern lack ignorance rumors spread panic.. I already heard rumors some hospitals not Property testing or give staff proper protection.
My concern mostly panic and madness of public...
I also concern lack ignorance rumors spread panic.. I already heard rumors some hospitals not Property testing or give staff proper protection.
Those aren't rumors at all. Those are facts.
There is lack of PPE nationwide, but absolutely in areas that are dealing with it more. And we need to be testing a lot more people, but as of now they can't. Unless by properly you mean they aren't swabbing people correctly? That I haven't heard.
It's not a reason to panic. People have to know these things.
Any pony from Europe? No? Then just me I guess.
Anyway the fresh numbers from Hungary:
-Infected: 167
-Healed: 16
- Deaths: 7
-Quarantine: 101
-Tests: 5 515
I'm in self-quarantine since last Thursday (19th March) because my dad got into hospital with pneumonia the day before (18th March) luckily he is much better since than and his tests for Covid19 were negative too. :frolic: :happy:
That's a huge relief but I still have to say at home for 2 weeks as my boss asked because I work in a disability home run by the local Maltaster International.
I have two fears of the recent situation:
1.) There are still lots of elder people are on the street since there is no central lockdown. I think the problem is that the elders don't trust stranger helpers because there were many theft cases in the news not long ago.
2.) I don't want to go deep into politics but our prime minister tries to use out the situation for his own advantage. Do I have to say more? :yikes:
My concern mostly panic and madness of public...
I also concern lack ignorance rumors spread panic.. I already heard rumors some hospitals not Property testing or give staff proper protection.
Those aren't rumors at all. Those are facts.
There is lack of PPE nationwide, but absolutely in areas that are dealing with it more. And we need to be testing a lot more people, but as of now they can't. Unless by properly you mean they aren't swabbing people correctly? That I haven't heard.
It's not a reason to panic. People have to know these things.
Thank you that good to know! So much information floating around to know what fact/ or media feed rumors...
My concern mostly panic and madness of public...
I also concern lack ignorance rumors spread panic.. I already heard rumors some hospitals not Property testing or give staff proper protection.
Those aren't rumors at all. Those are facts.
There is lack of PPE nationwide, but absolutely in areas that are dealing with it more. And we need to be testing a lot more people, but as of now they can't. Unless by properly you mean they aren't swabbing people correctly? That I haven't heard.
It's not a reason to panic. People have to know these things.
Thank you that good to know! So much information floating around to know what fact/ or media feed rumors...
Totally, I agree. I personally don't watch the news because I feel it's twisted and makes people panic. I stick the daily press conference from my state.
But in regards to PPE, one thing that is happening in some areas is elective surgeries/procedures are being canceled to save PPE, including for vets and dentists.
Also, there's straight up calls from hospitals for PPE. Even some some asking for masks to be made. (https://www.providence.org/lp/100m-masks)
And then in regards to testing. What our country should do is test aggressively -- so we have more accurate numbers including those with mild symptoms. And mild symptoms could mean someone who has bad symptoms, but is just short of being hospitalized. This would mean our numbers for confirmed cases would be closer to accurate, and people could take it more seriously, and quarantine as need be. And take off of work for quarantine. Some places say you can take off if you get a positive test, well hardly anyone can get that, and feel forced to continue to work.
But people just see "Oh the numbers look low, it's not a serious threat".
Boris Johnson in the UK has released a press event here (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52012432) and I took notes live and forwarded it to my collegues to make them aware if they are on shift.
We are going into lockdown, with police being given powers to fine and disperse gatherings, non-essential shops will be closed, events like weddings and baptisms will be stopped but funerals are exempt, and there are clear areas where people can go outside for essential things plus one form of exercise.
My state is up to 82 cases now. The low amount confined to metro areas is why there hasn't been a statewide lockdown yet. Douglass county (Lawrence) is getting a stay at home order tomorrow along with Lyon county (Emporia) which had 2 cases pop up (not community spread). My railfan friend in Emporia who has an autism spectrum disorder is already having this event mess with his mental state. Now he's not going to be able to get out and do the one thing he loves the most (watch trains), which really has me worried.
I'm playing Pokemon Silver for the first time. When in doubt, catch pocket monsters. :P
I just learned that my uncle that lives in Colorado is very sick quite possibly with the coronavirus. He has been tested but the result are not in yet. He refused to follow any of the recommended guidelines. I'm not close to him but it's starting to hit close to home.
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Latest US news on a federal level is Trump is champing at the bit to lift the social distancing restrictions within two weeks. It's going to be a disaster if he does that. His reasoning isn't based in science. Basically, he's upset because he thinks the virus is making him look bad due to the stock market going down. I just hope people listen to the doctors and scientists.
Trump in a Fox News virtual town hall doubled down on his push to reopen businesses in a matter of weeks in order to reinvigorate an economy stunned by the growing pandemic.
“You can destroy a country this way, by closing it down, where it literally goes from being the most prosperous,” Trump said. “I would love to have the country opened up and just raring to go by Easter,” Trump later added.
Latest US news on a federal level is Trump is champing at the bit to lift the social distancing restrictions within two weeks. It's going to be a disaster if he does that. His reasoning isn't based in science. Basically, he's upset because he thinks the virus is making him look bad due to the stock market going down. I just hope people listen to the doctors and scientists.
Wait, what?
As in over ride states that have an order to "stay at home" (Or whatever each state calls it)? Because I didn't think there was a federal thing in place.
Is this not common sense --> the economy is going to take a hit. But if there is no precaution taken by the american public -- the economy will take a worse hit-- and hospitals will be overloaded.
Heaven help us. u_u;
He won't override what the states are doing but he's raring to "restart the economy", by which he means encouraging healthy Americans to return to work and businesses to reopen. He wants everything back to normal by Easter.QuoteTrump in a Fox News virtual town hall doubled down on his push to reopen businesses in a matter of weeks in order to reinvigorate an economy stunned by the growing pandemic.
“You can destroy a country this way, by closing it down, where it literally goes from being the most prosperous,” Trump said. “I would love to have the country opened up and just raring to go by Easter,” Trump later added.
source (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489251-trump-says-he-hopes-to-have-economy-reopen-by-easter)
This might sound crazy, but I think preventing the loss of human life is more important than being "the most prosperous."
Latest US news on a federal level is Trump is champing at the bit to lift the social distancing restrictions within two weeks. It's going to be a disaster if he does that. His reasoning isn't based in science. Basically, he's upset because he thinks the virus is making him look bad due to the stock market going down. I just hope people listen to the doctors and scientists.
Wait, what?
As in over ride states that have an order to "stay at home" (Or whatever each state calls it)? Because I didn't think there was a federal thing in place.
Is this not common sense --> the economy is going to take a hit. But if there is no precaution taken by the american public -- the economy will take a worse hit-- and hospitals will be overloaded.
Heaven help us. u_u;
It is up to the people who know better to just keep staying home.The problem is, Americans don't know better and have a selfish personality thinking "Oh, I am healthy. Why should I stay home? The government can't tell me what to do" The infection rate in the USA is going to surpass the infection rate here and EVERYTHING was shut down for almost TWO MONTHS - movement was strictly controlled.
Lots of Americans are taking this seriously, and I agree, it's up to us who do to keep staying home.QuoteIt is up to the people who know better to just keep staying home.The problem is, Americans don't know better and have a selfish personality thinking "Oh, I am healthy. Why should I stay home? The government can't tell me what to do" The infection rate in the USA is going to surpass the infection rate here and EVERYTHING was shut down for almost TWO MONTHS - movement was strictly controlled.
Sadly Federal rules laws trump over states laws, cities ect laws.. So President Trump can force States to compile... States aren't own little countries as some states try act but I think President Trump should hear out each governor of states concern and high risk breakout area...Latest US news on a federal level is Trump is champing at the bit to lift the social distancing restrictions within two weeks. It's going to be a disaster if he does that. His reasoning isn't based in science. Basically, he's upset because he thinks the virus is making him look bad due to the stock market going down. I just hope people listen to the doctors and scientists.
Wait, what?
As in over ride states that have an order to "stay at home" (Or whatever each state calls it)? Because I didn't think there was a federal thing in place.
Is this not common sense --> the economy is going to take a hit. But if there is no precaution taken by the american public -- the economy will take a worse hit-- and hospitals will be overloaded.
Heaven help us. u_u;
He can't override the states but he can withhold funding to try and coerce states into doing what he wants. I'm not sure if governors can force local governments to end the "stay at home" orders. I know with the sanctuary cities Trump withheld funding. the governor here in Texas forced all of the cities to comply with an order saying they could not be sanctuary cities.
It is up to the people who know better to just keep staying home. But i'm worried about what will happen when school opens. I'm sure a lot of companies also want their employees back in the office. and stores will want to re-open. people will have to start going back out. i just don't see any realistic good outcome.
I know the economy can't slow down forever but it seems like there are other ways businesses can make money. They refuse to order businesses to make ventilators, masks and other necessary hospital equipment (i don't know anything about medicine). But if Trump did order businesses to produce these products it wouldn't be an act of charity. these companies would get paid.
I imagine that countless unnecessary deaths would also be bad for the economy and the election. personally if i have to choose between my job and millions of lives i would rather lose my job. how is that even a choice? it's just so disappointing that we don't have better national leadership. It seems like some governors are doing a good job. And not making this a partisan issue either.
It didn't have to be this way. We all deserve better.
Sadly Federal rules laws trump over states laws, cities ect laws.. So President Trump can force States to compile... States aren't own little countries as some states try act but I think President Trump should hear out each governor of states concern and high risk breakout area...
It's worrying because a lot of people do take Trump's word as gospel. Including a lot of older people.
I think he is trying to set up a narrative of "If the economy suffers it's not MY fault, it's the governors' fault." Similar to Florida governor DeSantis: "Gawrsh, it's not MY fault if the beaches stay open, it's up to individual counties to close them." You're the governor, close the beaches!
It's worrying because a lot of people do take Trump's word as gospel. Including a lot of older people. My mom is 80 and one of her friends, who is also elderly, told her with complete confidence that the coronavirus would disappear any day now because Trump said it would. So here I am across the state worrying about this stranger who isn't taking this seriously and wondering how I can keep her six feet away from my mom.
I just learned that my uncle that lives in Colorado is very sick quite possibly with the coronavirus. He has been tested but the result are not in yet. He refused to follow any of the recommended guidelines. I'm not close to him but it's starting to hit close to home.
Ponyfan
Wishing all the best to your uncle.
Remember that even people in the at risk category largely pull through.
Georgia (in USA) has passed 1,000 cases and up to 40 deaths now. I wish more cities and towns would go into lockdown/shelter in place.
Holy guacamole we are at over 1000 cases in PA. Wasn't it just at 400 last I posted or something?
More than 10% of these cases needed hospitalization. Something something numbers not accurate but it is a spooky statistic even with that consideration. I have found something that gives numbers on ICU beds available and it says 40% are avaliable but the number is quickly changing.
Well if this is true its good news.
"Preliminary data from MIT researchers indicate the new coronavirus is not spreading as efficiently in warmer, more humid regions of the world."
https://www.kxan.com/weather/weather-blog/why-friday-could-be-coronavirus-spread-turning-point-in-austin/
But what does that mean for the Fall and Winter? In the 1918 flu epidemic the virus went away during the summer and came back with a vengeance in the fall. At least it could buy us some time to prepare. I'm really just looking for a ray of hope here.
Well if this is true its good news.
"Preliminary data from MIT researchers indicate the new coronavirus is not spreading as efficiently in warmer, more humid regions of the world."
https://www.kxan.com/weather/weather-blog/why-friday-could-be-coronavirus-spread-turning-point-in-austin/
But what does that mean for the Fall and Winter? In the 1918 flu epidemic the virus went away during the summer and came back with a vengeance in the fall. At least it could buy us some time to prepare. I'm really just looking for a ray of hope here.
Well if this is true its good news.
"Preliminary data from MIT researchers indicate the new coronavirus is not spreading as efficiently in warmer, more humid regions of the world."
https://www.kxan.com/weather/weather-blog/why-friday-could-be-coronavirus-spread-turning-point-in-austin/
But what does that mean for the Fall and Winter? In the 1918 flu epidemic the virus went away during the summer and came back with a vengeance in the fall. At least it could buy us some time to prepare. I'm really just looking for a ray of hope here.
Isn't florida pretty warm.. and humid?
I'd take it with a grain of salt. Keep doing the social distancing, that's what's needed.
5 more cases today brining the total to 19.
I have to vent a little. Before all of the restrictions my family usually took an elderly neighbor out with us to go walk or to the store if she needed something. Since the restrictions were put in place we have only been going out when necessary. The neighbor called today and said she went out shopping with her cousin and listed several places they went. I was shocked that they don’t seem to care about possibly catching the virus.
Ponyfan
Well if this is true its good news.
"Preliminary data from MIT researchers indicate the new coronavirus is not spreading as efficiently in warmer, more humid regions of the world."
https://www.kxan.com/weather/weather-blog/why-friday-could-be-coronavirus-spread-turning-point-in-austin/
But what does that mean for the Fall and Winter? In the 1918 flu epidemic the virus went away during the summer and came back with a vengeance in the fall. At least it could buy us some time to prepare. I'm really just looking for a ray of hope here.
Isn't florida pretty warm.. and humid?
I'd take it with a grain of salt. Keep doing the social distancing, that's what's needed.
Well if this is true its good news.
"Preliminary data from MIT researchers indicate the new coronavirus is not spreading as efficiently in warmer, more humid regions of the world."
https://www.kxan.com/weather/weather-blog/why-friday-could-be-coronavirus-spread-turning-point-in-austin/
But what does that mean for the Fall and Winter? In the 1918 flu epidemic the virus went away during the summer and came back with a vengeance in the fall. At least it could buy us some time to prepare. I'm really just looking for a ray of hope here.
Isn't florida pretty warm.. and humid?
I'd take it with a grain of salt. Keep doing the social distancing, that's what's needed.
I've been to Daytona and Orlando and froze my butt off; we're talking OMG all the orange trees are gonna die kinda cold. So it just depends on time of year, etc.
Well if this is true its good news.
"Preliminary data from MIT researchers indicate the new coronavirus is not spreading as efficiently in warmer, more humid regions of the world."
https://www.kxan.com/weather/weather-blog/why-friday-could-be-coronavirus-spread-turning-point-in-austin/
But what does that mean for the Fall and Winter? In the 1918 flu epidemic the virus went away during the summer and came back with a vengeance in the fall. At least it could buy us some time to prepare. I'm really just looking for a ray of hope here.
Isn't florida pretty warm.. and humid?
I'd take it with a grain of salt. Keep doing the social distancing, that's what's needed.
I've been to Daytona and Orlando and froze my butt off; we're talking OMG all the orange trees are gonna die kinda cold. So it just depends on time of year, etc.
I guess it's relative.
right now those places are 76 and 77, which is like a pleasant summer day up here. *shrug*
5 more cases today brining the total to 19.
I have to vent a little. Before all of the restrictions my family usually took an elderly neighbor out with us to go walk or to the store if she needed something. Since the restrictions were put in place we have only been going out when necessary. The neighbor called today and said she went out shopping with her cousin and listed several places they went. I was shocked that they don’t seem to care about possibly catching the virus.
Ponyfan
Did they have to go multiple places because she needed things and places were out of them? Of course just her cousin should have gone. Me and my boyfriend needed things so he went by himself when before we would go shopping together. I really wanted to go too but I figured it would be safer that way.
5 more cases today brining the total to 19.
I have to vent a little. Before all of the restrictions my family usually took an elderly neighbor out with us to go walk or to the store if she needed something. Since the restrictions were put in place we have only been going out when necessary. The neighbor called today and said she went out shopping with her cousin and listed several places they went. I was shocked that they don’t seem to care about possibly catching the virus.
Ponyfan
Did they have to go multiple places because she needed things and places were out of them? Of course just her cousin should have gone. Me and my boyfriend needed things so he went by himself when before we would go shopping together. I really wanted to go too but I figured it would be safer that way.
I think they went out for fun, not because they needed anything.
All non essential medical appointments are cancelled until further notice in my city. Not sure if the order came from the mayor or the governor. My mom had some routine appointments after the shelter in place order was given last week and they were not cancelled.
My job made it official that we won't be compensated for the time that we can't work due to the governor's executive order. I understand their decision and I will be okay because I am already living with my parents and don't make enough income on my own for me to live on my own but hearing my job say that they will not pay us for the time we can't work stings.
Ponyfan
Without being too political about it, may I just record my extreme disgust that the UK Govt is putting Brexit ahead of the lives of citizens by refusing to join the EU's scheme to make more medical equipment/ventilators etc available. This surely is NOT the time to be drawing borders when everyone is fighting the same battle, and every little helps.
Surely ideologies can be put aside until this business is done with, because people's lives are way more important.
UK govt have promised (we'll see) to pay 80% of salaries of businesses that apply to them for help over this so they won't have to lay off staff and today made some similar provision for self-employed people (albeit it sounds complex as heck and still requires applying for UC I think in the short term as it won't actually pay out till June...)
Does the US's new stimulus package not do something similar for workers so they can stay in their jobs even if they're not able to work (rather than filing for unemployment)?
Trump is not the clearest at explaining anything but that was kind of what it sounded like he thought it was.
Post Merge: March 26, 2020, 05:48:24 PM
I think this article might explain better what is exactly in the bill
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/26/821457551/whats-inside-the-senate-s-2-trillion-coronavirus-aid-package (https://www.npr.org/2020/03/26/821457551/whats-inside-the-senate-s-2-trillion-coronavirus-aid-package)
Ottawa KS (east of me) has a big problem:
https://www.ottawaherald.com/news/20200326/american-eagle-employee-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-marking-franklin-countys-second-confirmed-case?fbclid=IwAR2SVaIe_BNd8TfH35tsUmhDnFTlp8T1xnTSSa77KtsehgDH3pkcCOvRf6Q
I hope there's no one who works there who lives in my town.
I'm not sure if this belongs in this thread or the other one but this made me smile despite not being a big Baby Shark fan. The Baby Shark song has been rewritten to encourage kids to wash their hands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L89nN03pBzI
Ponyfan
I'm not sure if this belongs in this thread or the other one but this made me smile despite not being a big Baby Shark fan. The Baby Shark song has been rewritten to encourage kids to wash their hands.Cough into your elbow, doo doo doo doo doo...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L89nN03pBzI
Ponyfan
My uncle that I mentioned a few days ago has died. I still don't know if it was from the virus or another cause.
:sad: :sad: :sad: :hug: :hug: :hug:My uncle that I mentioned a few days ago has died. I still don't know if it was from the virus or another cause.
I'm so sorry :(
County maps of the US and nothing for other countries defeats the object of this as a global thread.
There seems a misconception that because the US is a big country it's the only one being affected regionally, but that's absolutely not the case and if you look at a map of Italy's cases, you can see the same thing is true there as well.
Yeah, they are all pulling from the same sources. :) And yes, some numbers can lag based on who gets tested or where they get tested. Some private labs can be 1 week behind.
The one I mentioned sources the JHU data and puts it into a trend growth rate. Unless I'm blind, I don't necessarily see that on the JHU map?
Yeah, they are all pulling from the same sources. :) And yes, some numbers can lag based on who gets tested or where they get tested. Some private labs can be 1 week behind.
The one I mentioned sources the JHU data and puts it into a trend growth rate. Unless I'm blind, I don't necessarily see that on the JHU map?
I really have no clue on the 'trend growth rate' and I'm not interested in discussing which graph is better than the other. I'm not a statistical scientist and I don't play one online. All the numbers are really going to do is make a lot of people stress out and buy more toilet paper. I can't really affect the numbers it's like watching a big thunderstorm roll in, you can't really affect it other than try to protect yourself and your family.
But no matter how much you try to protect yourself lightning can still kill you and if the lightning doesn't get you the tornado can. You can do everything right in your life, but something out of the blue can strike you dead. I just sorta look at um, click on the features and then move on. It's up to everyone else what you do with what you're looking at. To me it's just a way to worry about it more than I need to as the virus is here and you just have to do your best to try to avoid it, etc. Looking at the numbers ain't going to affect anything other than our own psyche.
There seems a misconception that because the US is a big country it's the only one being affected regionally, but that's absolutely not the case and if you look at a map of Italy's cases, you can see the same thing is true there as well.
:) And that's why I like the interactive maps that show a bit more breakdown. I'm happy to see it for all countries, because I might not be familiar with other places.
There seems a misconception that because the US is a big country it's the only one being affected regionally, but that's absolutely not the case and if you look at a map of Italy's cases, you can see the same thing is true there as well.
:) And that's why I like the interactive maps that show a bit more breakdown. I'm happy to see it for all countries, because I might not be familiar with other places.
Well, here is the most recent for the UK, if you're curious ;)
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/3B66/production/_111460251_uk_la_mp28mar-nc.png
--snip--
I am more reassured by the fact our science people are not currently panicking about our numbers and the NHS is not reporting that we're at capacity. Also that most people are following the rules.
I'm so sorry Ponyfan. :( :hug:
I'm not trying to fear monger, but a news report at lunch today said it's possible for the USA to see 200,000 deaths.