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Title: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: dragonfly on March 21, 2020, 04:37:36 PM
Hi guys,
Because the other thread is already massive, I am going to be locking the COVID-19 threads each weekend and starting a new one.
Links to old threads will be included.

We are a global community. Let's keep each other posted about the real state of events.

Discussion is welcome.
NO FEAR MONGERING

1. Where do you live?
2. What is the current climate like where you're at?
3. Are news reports coming from your area accurate or no? What is going on?
4. What are your questions and concerns?
5. What has your government / administration done to address this (please try to keep this as politics free as possible, it is fine to state whether you agree/disagree with their actions etc) and, in your opinion, how is it working? Ex: Shelter in place orders, curfews, closures
6. Is your job affected, if so, how?
7. How are you and your family doing??

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Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Gator on March 21, 2020, 06:55:45 PM
I live in Georgia, southeast United States.
We've jumped to 555 cases and 20 deaths.  My closest big town, Athens, home of the University of Georgia, is on lock down.  But my county isn't doing anything mandatory yet. 
One hospital that had two deaths say they have gone through six months of supplies in seven days.  That's scary, especially if as the news forecast that we're just a couple of weeks away from numbers China and Italy have experienced.
One of the deaths was a 42 year old woman.  I turn 43 in a couple weeks.  This is definitely getting scary.
And because of my job, in the veterinary field, I can't stay home.  And we have been so busy this past week.  Besides sick/injured pets, we're getting a lot of silly stuff.  A lady came in this morning for a nail trim because Petsmart's grooming salon was closed.  I may get sick because of people like this?  For a silly nail trim?
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: dragonfly on March 21, 2020, 07:48:54 PM
Things have changed a lot here in MN.

We went from 35 cases midweek to about 115 cases yesterday.
We are not under a shelter in place order but the governor is considering it.
Both of my jobs now require everyone who is able to work from home.
Shopping malls and stores are closing.
Restaurants and bars are ordered closed. Restaurants can provide take-out and curbside service, no dine-in.

I went to Wal-mart for some things yesterday; TP and paper towels still sold out. Soap and laundry detergent very depleted.
A lot of the food is far more depleted than usual, but there is still plenty of food to buy.

It's been a little different for me. I've essentially been quarantined for the past 2 months with my mom, who had an injury in early January and was unable to go out or stay home by herself. I'd go out to the office once a week when my sister could come stay with her, and out for some other things,  but I'd already curbed a lot of activities like going to the gym and meeting up with friends. She was just starting to feel much better and drive again and we were beginning to resume our usual activities when this all hit.

As a matter of fact, I'd just been planning to go  in to the office more frequently and resume sessions with my trainer and was making plans to catch up with friends when the lockdown struck. So day to day not a lot has changed, but it's odd to lack the freedom of knowing I can go do those things if I wanted, or being able to look forward to them in the near future.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 21, 2020, 07:55:28 PM
I'm in the Southern US

I went to a couple of stores today. People were buying 1-3 cases of Ramen noodles each. I did pick up a case because I really like the shrimp flavor but I know I will eat them.

Ham, hotdogs, canned meat, frozen food  etc.. are flying of off of shelves. One of the grocery stores has put a 2 item limit on the most wanted items so more people have a chance to get them.

They've also put up signs asking people to respect elderly shopping hours because there have been a few problems with people that aren't elderly or shopping for the elderly taking advantage of those times.

My area has started testing so numbers of confirmed cases are starting to go up. We have jumped from 8 cases to 11 in a couple of hours. My city is telling people not to be tested unless they are showing symptoms. It's been confirmed that several of these cases went out to restaurants and stores during the time they could infect others with the virus.

All the restaurants are take out only. All bars gyms  and theaters are closed.   School is closed until  at least April 3rd but I think that will be extended and the school districts will just do online learning for the rest of the year.


There is uncertainty involving my job due to the virus.

Ponyfan




Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: toyjunky on March 21, 2020, 08:43:21 PM
Southern California (Orange County area)
78 cases
0 deaths

People have seemed relatively calm to be honest in all the stores I have been in. Store employees have been informing people in line of what is in stock and available upon entrance and where to line up inside. If anything people that I have talked to while waiting in line just are tired of the daily shopping (and empty shelves of course).

Shopping Experiences (last 2 days)
Sam's Club on Friday (a warehouse club store like Costco) - I was able to get paper towels at Sam's Club on Friday and they did have tp and water available but I did not buy any that day. I got in line about 25 min before opening and then did not get into the store for another 20min after opening (the line went all the way around the building).

I had to go to FOUR stores to find one gallon of non-fat milk. (Sam's Club, Stater Bros, Ralph's (Kroger), Albertsons) Other percentages were available but not that. I have a hunch that may become an issue (we shall see). Or possibly just was bought out in the morning rush at all the other stores.

Target - I was able to get TP (brand specific) on Saturday morning. I was there about 20minutes before opening and the line was twice down the side of the store. I also was able to get a few cans of soup (much of it was gone though). Even got a container of Lysol wipes.

Trader Joe's - I was there about 30minutes before opening and the line was twice down the side of the store and a bit onto the sidewalk. I have to admit though, of all the places I have been in the last week or so, they were the best stocked, almost I'd say 90% of the shelves were full and they did have paper towels available. Maybe it was because I was there early enough, not sure. Or probably because they are in the same strip mall area as Walmart, Sprouts and Target.

What has changed in the last 24 hours
Los Angeles Department of Public Health advised doctors not to test those experiencing only mild respiratory symptoms unless it would make a major difference in how they would be treated (or if they fell into a particular category). Main reason is to not waste test kits and resources on people that are asymptomatic (possible exposure) or display only minor symptoms. The same has I believe been advised for New York also.

Full Article https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-21-20-intl-hnk/h_78c431662464112a27434663a0860cdc (https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-21-20-intl-hnk/h_78c431662464112a27434663a0860cdc)
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 21, 2020, 08:51:43 PM
I am running low on cat food and my order from Chewy.com has been delayed . . . I imagine due to a combo of more people wanting to order online rather than going out and maybe due to some of their staff being ill.

Anyway, my order finally shipped today, much to my relief.  I think I have just enough cat food to get by until it arrives.  I don't have any orders for quarantine or shelter in place, but I would rather not risk going out.  I do have a bag of frozen chicken breasts in the fridge so I guess if I have to, I can cook a couple chicken breasts for the cats on the last day.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: JazzMatazz on March 21, 2020, 10:13:08 PM
My other half was in town last week dog sitting when the lock downs hit. I'm sending him out shopping tomorrow and he's quarantined to one part of the house for at least a week. I know the incubation is 2-14 days but idk if I want to be apart that long.  >_<  My mom is high risk and I think I am as well, I was very prone to catching bronchitis as a child and it always went chronic without meds I'd never recover on my own. My father always had problems with developing pneumonia so I suspect I got his lung genetics. I haven't been to town since the 15th. My job is sorta secure? I farm so the uncertainty is nothing new for me with crops. But I'm certainly a heck of a lot more on edge/anxious right now than normal planting season!

We have 281 cases and 4 deaths right now in Wisconsin today they closed all salons, tattoo parlors, another establishment I can't think of right now and all Goodwills have announced their closing in my area. Honestly took them long enough  >_<
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: StarDapple on March 21, 2020, 10:50:25 PM
I am on day 3 of at-home quarantine.  I feel ok, but the chest tightness persists.  I still am unable to walk very much without having shortness of breath.  My work (veterinary hospital) has said that they do not want me back until I have gone 72 hours past the end of symptoms.  I have no idea how long that will be.

There are rumours that Oregon will be following California's recommendations of a stay-at-home order on Monday.  Not sure if it is just a rumour or not but I would not be surprised if it happens.  I feel like most people in my area are practicing good common sense.  My mom said that the grocery stores are the cleanest she has ever seen and people are making sure to practice good social distancing.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Barnacle_lady on March 22, 2020, 02:19:28 AM
The latest death figure is 136. So thats a lot since my last post. But I feel real bad for Italy with 800 people that had died yesterday.

Friday our king speeched very well. He addressed everyone including children. But the mystery stays if he is alright too. He was in Austria when the virus came. And instead of quarantine he and the queen went to Indonesia.

Up here transferring of patients to other hospitals has begun. Because most of the affected persons live in south of the country they are running out of bed capacity. And the army is helping out.

And there is one thing that pisses me off. The full beaches, parks and forest. I know its difficult when you stand in line in a small grocery store. But outside there is enough space to keep 1,5 meters. If not, be wise and stay home. A lot of of people are not waiting for total lockdown! Even though some stores decide to close by themself, but online its still possible to order.

So coming week is my 2nd week of working home, lets see how that goes. There is enough to do so I won't be bored.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Moonbreeze on March 22, 2020, 03:08:29 AM
I can't believe the dumb people in this country. Ooh yeah, let's all go to the beach and to the forests.
This is how you get a lock-down. Selfish behaviour. We're over 3000 cases right now.

Edit: over 4000 :(
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 22, 2020, 05:18:28 AM
Ohio..
243 cases, 58 hospitalizations, 3 deaths. We are on the upswing.
351 cases, 83 hospitalizations, 3 deaths.

As mentioned before, our governor has been taking this seriously. Within a day after our 1st community spread case he shut schools down and banned large gatherings. He is taking advice from the head of the Dept of Health.

Since our first case we have had daily press conferences and that's where I get a majority of my info. There's no point to read newspaper articles when they are regurgitating his information.

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There is no "shelter in place"  because he has stated that he is trying to balance the safety of people and the economy. However, everyone is pretty much asked to act like we are and be responsible.
We are officially calling our order "stay at home", as of today, Sunday. Basically making it official of what he had just been asking. Can leave home for outdoor activity including exercises, walking the dog, and going to a park-- because that's good for our mental health. We can go out to shop, and take care of friends, families, and pets. It's ok for us to have a friend or family group up to 10 people that we see as long as we practice social distancing and stay in together.

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Businesses have to take the temperature of employees (or they self report), and measures inside reflect social distancing. WAH if possible. No self serve coffee, chairs 6 feet apart, staggered shifts, etc. There's a mixture of businesses complying and not. He has asked those who aren't to cut it out and stop risking lives. The writing is on the wall for what I believe will be like PA where we will have non-essential businesses closed.
There is a list of essential businesses, and are now ordered to practice good social distancing. It will be enforceable by law. This is until April 6, and will be reassessed.

Schools are closed but all grades have pivoted to remote learning including preK. bars/restaurants are closed besides takeout/pickup. Some daycares will be open for only 6 kids, 1 teacher per room under a emergency pandemic license. (This is pretty much for hospital workers, I think. I kinda missed part of it).

Personally, we are in self-quarantined to the strictest level. My dad plays and watches my daughter, and he is high risk. I started preparing in Feb so at no point did I deplete things when people panic shopped. I am not sure I'm 100% prepared but I tried my best. I'm looking into services that mail produce. I do not plan to go to any stores until we are on the down swing. A neighbor will grab us milk or any emergency items. I will obviously have to go out for his prescription and my daughter's doctor appointments.

My mom is also self-quarantined because she works in the hospital. :( So none of us can see her until it's all over. I'm worried about her due to her age... and I miss her.

I hope there's more talk about being mentally healthy through out all of this. I have a agoraphobia and I have a feeling after the end of this I'm going to have a hard time.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on March 22, 2020, 05:25:06 AM
My dad has gone out this morning :mad: I don't know where, I just know he's gone. He stayed home yesterday so I thought he was finished being stupid.

Florida cases are at 763 with 12 deaths. Infected non-residents (tourists) is 57. There are 2 cases in my county.

More beaches are closing but the majority are open. People are still visiting them even though they're closed. I was amazed by comments on a news article the number of residents complaining about it. Saying things like "what else are we supposed to do" - how about... stay home!

The usually busy road nearby remains quiet, which is weird.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 22, 2020, 05:44:27 AM
Well I got a little good news at work last night. The place I work at makes plastic trays and totes, the majority of which are for food, and sometimes medical, and because of that, they announced the government views all of the plants under this company as "essential" because we make stuff for the food and medical industries, so the plant won't be subject to any shut down  orders.

That said: I'm listening to my scanner very closely as I type this, because an 84 year old a few blocks away called 911 over flu like symptoms, and I thought I heard the dispatcher say "Corona positive". I can only hope I heard that wrong because if I didn't, this small town is gonna' go into full panic mode.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Brightglowpony on March 22, 2020, 07:05:16 AM
I am on day 3 of at-home quarantine.  I feel ok, but the chest tightness persists.  I still am unable to walk very much without having shortness of breath.  My work (veterinary hospital) has said that they do not want me back until I have gone 72 hours past the end of symptoms.  I have no idea how long that will be.

There are rumours that Oregon will be following California's recommendations of a stay-at-home order on Monday.  Not sure if it is just a rumour or not but I would not be surprised if it happens.  I feel like most people in my area are practicing good common sense.  My mom said that the grocery stores are the cleanest she has ever seen and people are making sure to practice good social distancing.


I wish the best for you and hope you feel better very soon!  I used to work in the veterinary field too and I don't think society can ever truly repay those who cannot stay home during this time.   :heart:
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 22, 2020, 07:50:45 AM
I'm worried about the "spring-breakers" in Florida catching coronavirus and then taking it back to their home states.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: StarDapple on March 22, 2020, 08:45:11 AM
I am on day 3 of at-home quarantine.  I feel ok, but the chest tightness persists.  I still am unable to walk very much without having shortness of breath.  My work (veterinary hospital) has said that they do not want me back until I have gone 72 hours past the end of symptoms.  I have no idea how long that will be.

There are rumours that Oregon will be following California's recommendations of a stay-at-home order on Monday.  Not sure if it is just a rumour or not but I would not be surprised if it happens.  I feel like most people in my area are practicing good common sense.  My mom said that the grocery stores are the cleanest she has ever seen and people are making sure to practice good social distancing.


I wish the best for you and hope you feel better very soon!  I used to work in the veterinary field too and I do think think society can ever truly repay those who cannot stay home during this time.   :heart:

Thank you so much!  Before I was sent home, we were working so hard and people were still giving us grief because of the new regulations.  It makes it difficult to come to work sometimes because of people, never the animals.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 22, 2020, 09:02:20 AM
Pennsylvania. I'm right next the the most cases and about an hour from Philly. We're teetering at almost 400 cases statewide and I'm sure we've hit that by now. Two deaths. They've delayed the enforcement of closing non-life-sustaining business to Monday (was supposed to be yesterday?).
Gamestop is finally closing for the outbreak. Complaining works!! I hope nothing bad came of all the games released on Friday and I'm glad the employees won't be subjected to endangering themselves.
Here's the sitch at my store:
Because there are no true weekends now (sorta?) we are rather slow. If you are looking to buy groceries on a less busy day, consider a weekend so long as it isn't Friday. But that could be because of a large uptick in sales after the announcement of nonessential business closing. We didn't even hit a normal sales day yesterday.
We have an employee pantry in the back and all of the employees with toilet paper got nasty looks. I haven't had a chance or need to get stuff out of it myself but I am glad for it. We have limits on lots of items (milk, eggs, frozen veggies) and shelves are rubber banding back and forth. Customers out of the store by 10, fine by me.
I have to wear gloves when I retrieve money. Makes sense but we still handle a lot of money, so they gave us a free-standing sink. I don't like the noise it makes so I'm put off of using it but glad it's an option. Our little built-in coffee shop is still serving but closes earlier. Still serving subs and pizza, but there are ropes in front of the sneezeguard.
There are taped lines on the floor everywhere. When you check out, you bring your cart forward, stand back at the front of the belt while the employee rings you out, and then come forward to pay. Similar measures at the service desk. We have a separate area for alcohol that is wildly popular since the state stores are closed, but no tape there. I'd imagine we'd get something there soon.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on March 22, 2020, 09:31:38 AM
The Florida governor was just on again.

830 cases, 13 deaths, 62 infected tourists.

He is still not making beach closures mandatory, but more are electing to close though people are not respecting this and showing up anyway. He did put in an order to suspend elective and non-critical surgeries in order to free up space in hospitals. Two drive through testing sites are open, one in Miami and Jacksonville, another will open in Orlando soon. They're prioritizing people 65 and older who have symptoms.

He went on a spiel about "doing your part" and practicing social distancing trying to appeal to younger people. Like, just close the beaches??? You have the power.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Wardah on March 22, 2020, 10:13:29 AM
I can't believe the dumb people in this country. Ooh yeah, let's all go to the beach and to the forests.
This is how you get a lock-down. Selfish behaviour. We're over 3000 cases right now.

Edit: over 4000 :(

More beaches are closing but the majority are open. People are still visiting them even though they're closed. I was amazed by comments on a news article the number of residents complaining about it. Saying things like "what else are we supposed to do" - how about... stay home!

People would be able to go these places if they kept their distance. It doesn't travel more than six feet. Selfishly people are choosing to still go when there isn't enough room to keep distance instead of coming back another time. I hope if this is still a thing when it's warmer here that people will heed distancing at the beaches so we don't have to close them.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 22, 2020, 01:43:51 PM
My state is up to 64 cases now. Seems to be a slow, steady climb. But yeah I think we're going to see a huge spike in a few days thanks to spring breakers.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Koudoawaia on March 22, 2020, 01:47:17 PM
Last I heard today and the numbers could have changed again since then, there are 99 cases in KY and 3 deaths.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: MerryAnvil on March 22, 2020, 03:51:49 PM
Oklahoma:

We currently have 67 cases and 2 deaths. There are 2 cases in our county currently, including one in our local hospital. We live near OSU and they've moved all classes online and shut down their transportation services. Our mayor (and now entire state) has issued a state of emergency and a bunch of public services including recreational facilities and the library have all been shut down. All bars and dine-in restaurants have been shut down and restaurants that can do so have moved to doing either delivery or drive-thru only.

My family have all been self-isolating as best we can and only going out to get absolutely necessary groceries. Even though my family are mostly healthy and aren't in the high-risk columns, my sister and I recently got over bouts of Influenza A so there's that worry. My mom has begun using gloves to interact with anything that a multitude of people have touched, including gas pumps and ATM machines, and we have a little...sanitization station (hehe) out in our garage where we remove our shoes and all clothing we went to a store in and use hand sanitizer so we can touch the doorknob on the way to the bathroom, where we then take a shower. It may seem like a bit of an overreaction but we have lots of elderly and immunocompromised people in our community and we're trying our best not to allow anything to spread if we can help it. I've also been using gloves to handle any mail/packages.

Although my sister works as a trainer at Chic-Fil-A and still has to work, they've been carefully choosing people that can take the financial hit and cutting their hours first so that people who rely on the job as their main income can still support themselves. Because my sister still lives with all of us on our family farm and mostly just has a job to build up savings and help out a bit with rent/household costs, she had her hours cut majorly. She's only working 3 days this coming up week and they're very short days. We're doing okay financially though and I still have some money saved up to loan my parents if I need to.

My sister's workplace was extremely quick to act and even before the state of emergency was issued, implemented a rule where every 30 minutes, an alarm goes off and employees must drop what they're doing and wash their hands. All employees are wearing gloves at this point as well, no matter what job they're doing. There is one person to handle the money and another to hand out the food. The managers apparently said that if anyone comes in with any symptoms of being sick, they will be fired on the spot and sent home (they're huge on not having employees work while sick anyways; if you have a fever or get nauseous during the shift they automatically send you home even when a pandemic is not happening).

We've had to resort to making our own bread and buying yeast for it online because none of our stores have any bread. Panic buying has increased since the state of emergency was issued, it seems. We were barely able to find essentials like toilet paper and even feminine products. Apparently when my mom last went out to get groceries for the week, someone shoved her out of the way to get into the store first. Absolutely unreal. There are some silver linings, though; the Dollar General down the road from my house has started closing early but they've put in place a neat rule where for the last couple hours of the day, elderly customers are given priority over other customers so they can get checked out and leave quicker. Also a lot of the elderly people in our community have taken to wearing respirators and gloves when they do have to go out.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 22, 2020, 04:44:51 PM
2 new cases in my area, the first ones that are community spread. So far my city is not in a shelter in place state but the mayor said more info will be given tomorrow. He also said that he is going to be shutting down businesses that don't provide essential services like nail salons.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Beth3346 on March 22, 2020, 05:01:35 PM
We had our first Covid-19 death today here in San Antonio.  A woman in her 80s. Houston, where I'm from, just issued a shelter in place. I have a feeling that will happen here in San Antonio and in Austin.

Next week i'm supposed to be moving to Austin.  We already gave our landlord notice and committed to a rental house in Austin so we have to go.  I really want to move from the place we're in but i'm nervous about letting movers in.  There's no way we can move the furniture on our own.  We live in one of those 3 story townhomes (I don't recommend unless you like always being late because you left your shoes or wallet on the 3rd floor) I'm working remotely after I move so I'm looking forward to not having pressure to go back in the office.

I'm surprised office jobs aren't pressuring people to come in. In Houston the companies I worked for were not accommodating to remote work. And the way the law is written in Texas employers can weasel out of paying employees who are not in the office. Texas is a "right to work" state.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Mareacooda on March 22, 2020, 05:05:36 PM

1. Where do you live?

Northern Maine USA
2. What is the current climate like where you're at?
Snow ground, lakes still some ice.. mostly 20s - high 30s temp. Later this weeks climb 40s.
3. Are news reports coming from your area accurate or no? What is going on?
Reports lower part state possible positive tested.. not sure of the number I send my husband tend not follow news..  I learn last weekend by friend lower state ask if our community gone mad over toilet paper ect...
Drive thru and take only restaurants/ banks all public rest stop or bathrooms closed, only essential stores open.. Stores put limited per customers a day items, give Special hrs SRs and people health issues that prone to virus...
4. What are your questions and concerns? 
My concern mostly panic and madness of public...
I also concern lack ignorance rumors spread panic.. I already heard rumors some hospitals not Property testing or give staff proper protection.
5. What has your government / administration done to address this (please try to keep this as politics free as possible, it is fine to state whether you agree/disagree with their actions etc) and, in your opinion, how is it working? Ex: Shelter in place orders, curfews, closures
State close public school, ( send homework kids/ lunches) public bathrooms all close, drive thru take out only, only essential stores open, SR homes lockdowns, stores put limits need products... Are those excepted... Farmers and plants process essentials... open fish season early...
My thoughts
My understanding that much worst virus like common flu / pneumonia which done worst damage to society but never gone society panic. I live and farm bred. I see alot sickness just alone thru from different species and plants.. Life finds a way to keep population/ over crowding and weak in check for best of life! So I am baffled by madness when only ones who infected need protection those immune, respiratory issues... I recall from other generations stories when spread chicken pox they actual have party to build immunity and to supervise/ control virus as same effected as vaccines. 
I feel this need as wake up call society to remember what goes in daily life from farmer grow food/ truckers transporting, butcher process ect that feeds society and maintain structure of society... if this doesn't happen then society would hunt and grow they own as individuals..
Society need learn to work togather and stop panicking being greedy to survive as human race...
6. Is your job affected, if so, how?
Layoff my part time job but no vacation break from care, milking ect livestock and soon planting season...
Husband work McCains they still move because they food productor are excepted..
7. How are you and your family doing??
My Aunt stuck right Florida... ( she not phase by it because she loving sun and is nurse).. My husband family are keep to themselves( never close family).. I have few SR friends & friends which I will delivery them fresh products to insure they feed..
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on March 23, 2020, 12:16:29 AM
Well, Florida has hit over 1000 cases, 1007. 70 of them are tourists. Deaths still at 13.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Bright_Glow on March 23, 2020, 01:18:44 AM
Any pony from Europe? No? Then just me I guess.
Anyway the fresh numbers from Hungary:
-Infected: 167
-Healed: 16
- Deaths: 7
-Quarantine: 101
-Tests: 5 515

I'm in self-quarantine since last Thursday (19th March) because my dad got into hospital with pneumonia the day before (18th March) luckily he is much better since than and his tests for Covid19 were negative too. :frolic: :happy:
That's a huge relief but I still have to say at home for 2 weeks as my boss asked because I work in a disability home run by the local Maltaster International.

I have two fears of the recent situation:

1.) There are still lots of elder people are on the street since there is no central lockdown. I think the problem is that the elders don't trust stranger helpers because there were many theft cases in the news not long ago.

2.) I don't want to go deep into politics but our prime minister tries to use out the situation for his own advantage. Do I have to say more?  :yikes:


Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Moonbreeze on March 23, 2020, 02:18:01 AM
Any pony from Europe? No? Then just me I guess

Lots of EU active in the previous thread ;) Right now only Dutchies though.

There will by a crisis meeting today. Let's see what happens.

I'll add this
1. Where do you live?

South Holland, Netherlands

2. What is the current climate like where you're at?

Calm enough, although there has been quite some hoarding. People don't give a thing about social distancing and are visiting places now that the sun is finally out.
Putting unneeded stress on things such as public transport :(

3. Are news reports coming from your area accurate or no? What is going on?

It's the worst in the south of the country (that's less than an hour away though, we're tiny :) )
I tend the follow the news coming from newspapers or the RIVM (Dutch Health Organization).
Not social media.

4. What are your questions and concerns?

I have none. Every day is different and there's nothing you can do but follow the news and adapt.

5. What has your government / administration done to address this (please try to keep this as politics free as possible, it is fine to state whether you agree/disagree with their actions etc) and, in your opinion, how is it working? Ex: Shelter in place orders, curfews, closures

Schools, sport clubs and such are closed. Stores are still open, but some are closing on their own.

We're on the sinking 'group immunity' boat. It might have worked, but as stated before; people don't seem to care enough.
I hope they'll make it illegal to be in groups soon, perhaps then they'll listen.

6. Is your job affected, if so, how?

Yes, I work at a school. We had to switch everything over to online classes. So I'm still able to work from home to help arrange this all.

7. How are you and your family doing??

I have a cold :P (nothing more than that it seems), but my family is doing fine :)
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: tikibirds on March 23, 2020, 02:44:13 AM
They claim there are only 8 cases here, 2 imported from Chinese citizens returning from overseas.
Pretty much all people from abroad are being quarantined upon arrival in China - most at hotels and its up to the foreigner to pay for a 2 week stay at said hotel. Seniors in HS have gone back to having physical classes in some regions.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 23, 2020, 04:03:06 AM

My concern mostly panic and madness of public...
I also concern lack ignorance rumors spread panic.. I already heard rumors some hospitals not Property testing or give staff proper protection.

Those aren't rumors at all. Those are facts.

There is lack of PPE nationwide, but absolutely in areas that are dealing with it more. And we need to be testing a lot more people, but as of now they can't. Unless by properly you mean they aren't swabbing people correctly? That I haven't heard.

It's not a reason to panic. People have to know these things.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 23, 2020, 05:58:19 AM
2 new cases popped up in a county next to mine. Both are travel related and not community spread. Nonetheless They're only 35 miles from me.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Mareacooda on March 23, 2020, 06:53:15 AM

My concern mostly panic and madness of public...
I also concern lack ignorance rumors spread panic.. I already heard rumors some hospitals not Property testing or give staff proper protection.

Those aren't rumors at all. Those are facts.

There is lack of PPE nationwide, but absolutely in areas that are dealing with it more. And we need to be testing a lot more people, but as of now they can't. Unless by properly you mean they aren't swabbing people correctly? That I haven't heard.

It's not a reason to panic. People have to know these things.

Thank you  that good to know! So much information floating around to know what fact/ or media feed rumors...


Any pony from Europe? No? Then just me I guess.
Anyway the fresh numbers from Hungary:
-Infected: 167
-Healed: 16
- Deaths: 7
-Quarantine: 101
-Tests: 5 515

I'm in self-quarantine since last Thursday (19th March) because my dad got into hospital with pneumonia the day before (18th March) luckily he is much better since than and his tests for Covid19 were negative too. :frolic: :happy:
That's a huge relief but I still have to say at home for 2 weeks as my boss asked because I work in a disability home run by the local Maltaster International.

I have two fears of the recent situation:

1.) There are still lots of elder people are on the street since there is no central lockdown. I think the problem is that the elders don't trust stranger helpers because there were many theft cases in the news not long ago.

2.) I don't want to go deep into politics but our prime minister tries to use out the situation for his own advantage. Do I have to say more?  :yikes:



I seeing on facebook that USA DOJ trying over ride our constitution rights
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 23, 2020, 07:16:58 AM

My concern mostly panic and madness of public...
I also concern lack ignorance rumors spread panic.. I already heard rumors some hospitals not Property testing or give staff proper protection.

Those aren't rumors at all. Those are facts.

There is lack of PPE nationwide, but absolutely in areas that are dealing with it more. And we need to be testing a lot more people, but as of now they can't. Unless by properly you mean they aren't swabbing people correctly? That I haven't heard.

It's not a reason to panic. People have to know these things.

Thank you  that good to know! So much information floating around to know what fact/ or media feed rumors...


Totally, I agree. I personally don't watch the news because I feel it's twisted and makes people panic. I stick the daily press conference from my state.

But in regards to PPE, one thing that is happening in some areas is elective surgeries/procedures are being canceled to save PPE, including for vets and dentists.

Also, there's straight up calls from hospitals for PPE. Even some some asking for masks to be made.  (https://www.providence.org/lp/100m-masks)

And then in regards to testing. What our country should do is test aggressively -- so we have more accurate numbers including those with mild symptoms. And mild symptoms could mean someone who has bad symptoms, but is just short of being hospitalized. This would mean our numbers for confirmed cases would be closer to accurate, and people could take it more seriously, and quarantine as need be. And take off of work for quarantine. Some places say you can take off if you get a positive test, well hardly anyone can get that, and feel forced to continue to work. 

But people just see "Oh the numbers look low, it's not a serious threat".
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Mareacooda on March 23, 2020, 08:17:18 AM

My concern mostly panic and madness of public...
I also concern lack ignorance rumors spread panic.. I already heard rumors some hospitals not Property testing or give staff proper protection.

Those aren't rumors at all. Those are facts.

There is lack of PPE nationwide, but absolutely in areas that are dealing with it more. And we need to be testing a lot more people, but as of now they can't. Unless by properly you mean they aren't swabbing people correctly? That I haven't heard.

It's not a reason to panic. People have to know these things.

Thank you  that good to know! So much information floating around to know what fact/ or media feed rumors...


Totally, I agree. I personally don't watch the news because I feel it's twisted and makes people panic. I stick the daily press conference from my state.

But in regards to PPE, one thing that is happening in some areas is elective surgeries/procedures are being canceled to save PPE, including for vets and dentists.

Also, there's straight up calls from hospitals for PPE. Even some some asking for masks to be made.  (https://www.providence.org/lp/100m-masks)

And then in regards to testing. What our country should do is test aggressively -- so we have more accurate numbers including those with mild symptoms. And mild symptoms could mean someone who has bad symptoms, but is just short of being hospitalized. This would mean our numbers for confirmed cases would be closer to accurate, and people could take it more seriously, and quarantine as need be. And take off of work for quarantine. Some places say you can take off if you get a positive test, well hardly anyone can get that, and feel forced to continue to work. 

But people just see "Oh the numbers look low, it's not a serious threat".

Also good know rough age group, locations and weather...
Area seems mostly impacted may high consternation people for square area and I know on some bactrica/ virus increase / decrease by enviromental...  Best example years wet/ muggy in my area high % rot in crops, high % worm load and parsites in animals...
It nice to know if any other factors that help educate people protect themselves love ones extra...
One close friends she very scared due she immunity issues and respiratory.. She proun to pneumonia.. Last spell she had last year almost killed her....  I simple talk to on phone/ online make sure she ok...
Luckily she live out country area like myself not over crowding...
Nightmare in big cities with sooo many people and over crowding..  I think maybe why hit China so hard even Italy ..
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Thimble on March 23, 2020, 09:27:42 AM
You guys, schools in Japan restart next week. Japan has been *very* lucky so far, but it is way too soon to call it safe, why are they risking this?! The cases are still going up! And Japan has the world's oldest average population!
Hong Kong is already showing what happens when you relax too soon. I am really worried about the people around me. And of course, spring break/cherry blossom season is going strong, so people are ignoring the don't crowd rules....(Japanese style, so everybody has masks and physical contact is not a thing, but still. Cities are crowded.)
In a few weeks, we could be going right back into lock down. Why are people like this. Why can't we just be a bit more patient? Yes, the isolation is horrible, but it's better than the alternative. Argh.

Anyway, everybody over there be safe. Those numbers are scary, but let's all just bear in mind, most cases are mild.
That may be my new mantra for a while, lol.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: StarDapple on March 23, 2020, 10:15:02 AM
Oregon is up to 5 deaths and 161 confirmed cases as of Sunday morning.  The governor has suspended any evictions due to the virus affecting people's ability to pay rent.

I am at on day 5 of at home quarantine. I feel better each day but the rain has made my lungs more sensitive.  I really hope I will be ok by the end of the week.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 23, 2020, 12:48:35 PM
School closures nearby extended for another two weeks. I feel like this is going to go to the end of the school year at this point, it just feels so endless. We're up to April 6th officially announced closed at this point. Another 100 cases confirmed. Six deaths???
We have an official stay at home order in my and neighboring counties. I'm not quite sure what exactly this means yet but we're waiting on more information...
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 23, 2020, 01:29:11 PM
Trying to spend less time watching the news as it's all depressing, but need to vent a little at all the selfish people going out to enjoy the sunshine these last couple of days in defiance of and with full knowledge of the advisory. Just like in Aus and Florida, people think they are better than everyone else.

I think that may mean the country - or some parts of it - may be in lockdown very soon, if not from tonight.

Which is going to make life more difficult for those of us who ARE obeying the rules, and who are already worried enough about the risk posed to loved ones.

Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 23, 2020, 01:33:12 PM
Schools in my area are hoping the governor doesn't extend the deadline past April 6th but I think that is being overly optimistic at this point as we are very close to a shelter in place order.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Lady Frostbite on March 23, 2020, 01:41:01 PM
Boris Johnson in the UK has released a press event here (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52012432) and I took notes live and forwarded it to my collegues to make them aware if they are on shift.

We are going into lockdown, with police being given powers to fine and disperse gatherings, non-essential shops will be closed, events like weddings and baptisms will be stopped but funerals are exempt, and there are clear areas where people can go outside for essential things plus one form of exercise.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 23, 2020, 01:45:38 PM
Lady Frostbite beat me to posting it.

It's because people are selfish and won't be told what to do even though it is for the benefit of everyone.

Most of what he said is already what we are doing, I just worry if I go walking with my parents whether we'll get in trouble even though we live together - and don't want to deal with those kinds of situations. Autistic anxiety does not cover explaining self to police in an epidemic when I want to maintain distance.

Someone else died at our local hospital. Both deaths there people in their 40s with underlying health conditions. Unclear if they died of Covid though, just that they tested positive for it.

On a personal note, this confirms that my graduation for my PhD is at the very least postponed.

On a more happy one, at least I don't have to attend my dental check up now, as all nonessential treatment is cancelled. Hoping my teeth behave themselves for once.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: cuddlebuggy on March 23, 2020, 02:30:33 PM
I'm in Austin Tx. 79 cases in my county, 566 in the state. Austin will likely order shelter in place tomorrow but there is not going to be a statewide order till it gets worse.
Out schools are preparing to go online after an extended spring break, which is now till April 6th.
Restaurants closed for dine in. Bars and clubs closed on 3/17 at noon. Good call except for the fact that the restaurants had already begun food prep for the day.
Stores have been picked over for weeks but HEB is doing a great job trying to keep shelves stocked. As of yesterday, they were only allowing 20 people in the store at one time. Many items had limits if they did have it. 2 milk products, 2 cartons of eggs, 8 canned soup or canned meat products.
For the most part, my neighborhood has been pretty supportive and offering to help the older people shop or someone was offering up her chickens eggs. I even saw a woman come into the pharmacy looking for alcohol to make hand sanitizer, but they were out. Another woman pulled out a small one from her purse and offered it to the lady! It was sweet.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 23, 2020, 02:42:19 PM
My state is up to 82 cases now. The low amount confined to metro areas is why there hasn't been a statewide lockdown yet. Douglass county (Lawrence) is getting a stay at home order tomorrow along with Lyon county (Emporia) which had 2 cases pop up (not community spread). My railfan friend in Emporia who has an autism spectrum disorder is already having this event mess with his mental state. Now he's not going to be able to get out and do the one thing he loves the most (watch trains), which really has me worried.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on March 23, 2020, 02:42:48 PM
My dad had a email from one of his cousins in New Zealand and he (the cousin) said New Zealand is in lock down, old people like my dad’s Aunt Betty is in isolation now. At least she has her boys (cows) to look after.

No going to the library for me, since it’s going to be closed, just thought of something they’ll be no Summer Reading Challenge this year.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Moonbreeze on March 23, 2020, 02:45:29 PM
Boris Johnson in the UK has released a press event here (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52012432) and I took notes live and forwarded it to my collegues to make them aware if they are on shift.

We are going into lockdown, with police being given powers to fine and disperse gatherings, non-essential shops will be closed, events like weddings and baptisms will be stopped but funerals are exempt, and there are clear areas where people can go outside for essential things plus one form of exercise.

The same thing just happened here. Although regular shops are still allowed to be open.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 23, 2020, 02:49:19 PM
My state is up to 82 cases now. The low amount confined to metro areas is why there hasn't been a statewide lockdown yet. Douglass county (Lawrence) is getting a stay at home order tomorrow along with Lyon county (Emporia) which had 2 cases pop up (not community spread). My railfan friend in Emporia who has an autism spectrum disorder is already having this event mess with his mental state. Now he's not going to be able to get out and do the one thing he loves the most (watch trains), which really has me worried.

On the autism subject - the problem is that it's an unresolved issue and it can't be rationalised or solved, therefore it takes a lot more energy to manage the mental state. I won't lie, the other night, after I had the email about the first local death, I didn't sleep at all. Because we'd been told all week we had no cases here and then that one which happened a full week earlier...and parents had been out in the meantime sorting out things for the weeks ahead.

I don't know that there is a solution for this and I have seen very little if anything aimed at supporting people on the spectrum during the crisis except from the NAS here who are fixed on supporting kids and people with comorbid learning difficulties, not everyone else on the spectrum, who are probably more likely to meltdown at the moment :/ What most people do in a crisis is bed down and bury themselves in some interest as escapism, but autism takes more work to enable escapism - I always know I'm on edge if I can't sit and watch/read/write the stuff I usually do, even if I don't feel physically panicked. It means I'm putting extra strain on myself to keep things stable. But then I was also told by the specialist who diagnosed me that distraction is actually a good anti-anxiety technique for autism if you can manage it.

I'm playing Pokemon Pearl for the first time. Sister's fault >.>

The other day govt increased payments on various benefits etc, but not a single word said about disability, most specifically ESA which is the benefit for people too sick to work. Ie employment substitute...and a lot of the people on it will be super vulnerable. All that has been said in that regard is that any assessments will be cancelled for the time being...but this govt are particularly insensitive to disability in general.

I wish your friend the best. I'm basically dealing with this one day at a time and with the garden, and so far I'm doing okay so long as everything here stays safe. I wish I had a suggestion for his rail hobby :/
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 23, 2020, 02:59:46 PM
I'm playing Pokemon Silver for the first time.  When in doubt, catch pocket monsters. :P
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: cyberunicorn on March 23, 2020, 03:02:39 PM
And uk now got its lockdown 😭

Though classed as a key worker so have to go in to the office still they are saying two weeks in two weeks out. Think I would just rather stay at home.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 23, 2020, 03:20:14 PM
I'm playing Pokemon Silver for the first time.  When in doubt, catch pocket monsters. :P

I think my sister said something similar. Something like "Quarantine means catching pokemons."

Also I just watched about 30 delivery slots go in literally 10 seconds on one of the supermarket sites...Glad I logged in when I did as I managed to get one even though it's more expensive at that time - parents have some urgent needs we didn't manage to get yet and I don't want them going out especially now.

Playing the delivery cart lottery is our newest hobby - when you order a shop and then see how much of it turns up.

Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: mlp4me on March 23, 2020, 03:49:58 PM
1. Where do you live?
Northeast WI, near Green Bay.

2. What is the current climate like where you're at?
2 confirmed cases in my county in the last 2 weeks.
Food/cleaning supply hoarding.

It has been QUIET. I live on a very busy county road and usually 2x an evening police/emergency vehicles fly by to get up on the highway. Nada for 4 days now.

3. Are news reports coming from your area accurate or no? What is going on?
So far a lot about stimulus packages, lack of PPE...

4. What are your questions and concerns?
Walking the dog... people, especially teens/children not practicing social distancing - noted this over the weekend.
We are able to partake in outdoor exercise... so far.

5. What has your government / administration done to address this and, in your opinion, how is it working?
Over the weekend people started posting patriot act permission to drive to/from work-essential industry workers. Shelter order going in place within 24-48 hours. Too early to tell how effective measures are.

6. Is your job affected, if so, how?
Both the hubby and myself started working from home today. He may eventually be laid off, but we hope it will be a bit before this happens. My work is at home tentative until 4/13.

7. How are you and your family doing??
So far, we are ok. Allergy season is upon us, but we are managing. Hubby needs a broken tooth taken care of. Terrible terrible timing...
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: MerryAnvil on March 23, 2020, 04:35:01 PM
Oklahoma cases have risen to 81 since I posted yesterday (that's 14 new cases), and there's now 3 in my county. Thankfully no more deaths have been reported at this time.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Marlin on March 23, 2020, 04:58:45 PM
1. Where do you live?
New Zealand

2. What is the current climate like where you're at?
Interesting.... Yesterday it was announced our nation (population nearly 5 million) is going into lockdown for four weeks. All non essential services are to close and the population to go into self isolation. As of yet we've had no deaths, 102 cases (I think... but that will rise). The point of the lockdown (and rightly so) is to prevent the spread and community transmission (two cases identified thus so far). All other cases are related to travel into NZ (or relatives/close connections to those who have travelled). There has been panic buying at supermarkets, leaving the more vulnerable and elderly at risk of not getting supplies which is sad.

3. Are news reports coming from your area accurate or no? What is going on?
Pretty good, and pretty constant. A lot of stuff about the panic buying. Not many people listening about shopping calmly and normally as possible. Fear going into action, really.

4. What are your questions and concerns?
I'm fairly accepting of the situation, and frankly, glad the country has acted as quickly as it has. It's a bit surreal going into lockdown, but I think a necessary step in order to reduce and 'stamp out' the spread as much as possible - thus reducing the risk of this dragging on and causing more illness and economic damage for months on end. I've gotta give credit to our prime minister - she handles these events well (mosque shootings, volcanic eruption, now this.... been an interesting 12 months)... 

5. What has your government / administration done to address this (please try to keep this as politics free as possible, it is fine to state whether you agree/disagree with their actions etc) and, in your opinion, how is it working? Ex: Shelter in place orders, curfews, closures
Well, as stated above... we're in official lockdown in 24 hours.

6. Is your job affected, if so, how?
Yes - I work in a school. All schools will be closed for minimum 4 weeks, alongside all non essential services. I can do some work at home - I'm not a teacher. But the teachers will be doing online learning for the students etc.

7. How are you and your family doing??
Ok, really. Ask me again when the fruit and vegetables run out! Supermarkets will stay open, and I'll just have to take a deep breath when we eventually face the crowds. Otherwise myself, the hubby and kids feel ready as we can be for the next four weeks.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 23, 2020, 06:18:15 PM
Just watched an address by Gov. Inslee (governor of Washington state) and it looks like we are getting a stay-at-home order within 48 hours, with all non-essential businesses closed and no social gatherings of any size allowed.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 23, 2020, 07:52:39 PM
No shelter in place order yet but I feel that will be the next step.

Today the mayor clarified the definition of non essential businesses because many stores and the mall were staying open despite the earlier essential business only order given by the governor last weeks. All tanning, hair, nail salons, the local mall, tattoo parlor's etc..  while be closed until further notice.

We are supposed to be at a limit of no more than 10 people at gatherings.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Mewtwofan1 on March 23, 2020, 09:57:11 PM
1. Living in Edmonton, AB CANADA.

2 current climate? Tense. Businesses are shuttering left and right, but people are insistent on going and gathering. We have not been put on lockdown (provincial or federal scale) but that could be next. We have 1.5 thousand cases country wide confirmed, 300 in Alberta (according to Canada.gov statistics) and there is no sign of the curve slowing or flattening soon.

3. News reports are constant and accurate. It’s almost all the news here talks about now anyways (not that that’s a bad thing). We have daily briefings by our prime minister (reporting from his home due to being in self-isolation himself after his wife tested positive) and our provincial chief medical officer. The premier of Alberta (provincial leader) gives briefings too...but they’re mostly about the economy and how we’re going to stay a float. Alberta is dependent on oil to drive our economy, and with the global economy the way it is right now, people need reassurance on both health and financial fronts. 
 
4. I understand what is going on, but my concern is for the future. This will change how we do things forever. And as someone who is just starting adult life, what does that future mean for me and my sisters. Will there be a future where we can get to go to school? Diplomas are already canceled for my grade 12 friends, which make up a substantial portion of final marks. Post secondaries use those marks to determine if you get in or not.  Will a career be possible where I can live somewhat comfortably?

5. I don’t like our provincial leader. We would disagree on many topics. But I like that he is trying to keep the populace under control and addressing those who have hoarded supplies. He isn’t a doctor, so I think he’s trying to help in a way he can understand. Leave the medical debriefs to the CMO, someone who is very calm, well spoken and is a doctor. As for the prime minister? I think he’s doing alright, but we need a bit more action. It’s been a lot of “please stay indoors, keep gatherings to X amount of people” but not much enforcement.

6. I work in a school as a lunch supervisor, so my job is affected. I never realized it until now, but I miss those kids I supervise. I miss them a lot, I miss answering their questions like “why is the sky blue? Can I go to Uranus?” and hope they’re doing alright.

7. Family is doing alright. Sisters are trying to study from home, and mom is being very cautious since she works in a retirement home. I think we’re doing well for now, but it might be different after the isolation of no school/extra curricular activities really sets in.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Bright_Glow on March 24, 2020, 01:27:01 AM
For some positivity, what kind of charity, helping and preventing movements are in your country?

There is a wide Stay home campaign with stars and famous people for the elders and those who are not necessary to go out but not official lockdown everywhere.

Lot of sits open freely or giving a discount for their film, news and book archives.

Online concert streaming in social media for people called stay home festival.

In the news, I heard that hotel owners are offering their empty hotel for quarantines to those who are coming home from abroad.

Some taxi companies lift doctors and nurses for free or at a lower cost between their home and their workplace.
Some people offer their empty homes for healthcare workers to stay so they don't need to go home and risking their family members'health.

Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponybookworm on March 24, 2020, 03:48:06 AM
Braved the Co-op today. They just got fresh milk in so I could get two bottles. No UHT milk or dried pasta, while tinned soups were few & far between. Fresh pasta was available, though pasta sauce was rationed to one jar per person. Managed to get packet soups, biscuits, some cereal & a few other bits (the pie was delicious), but still some of the gaps  in the shelves weren't good to see. Got some electric in & also cleared my glass on the same trek out to get all that done. Co-op said when they get stock in they're a bit more lenient with supplies, & have said they have trouble getting orders in sometimes. Wonder how long the fresh milk will last in there...

On a good note two of my PC games have gifted all players with little extras to encourage folks to stay safe, which imo is a great gesture.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on March 24, 2020, 07:09:01 AM
1227 cases in Florida, 80 infected tourists, 17 deaths.

The governor is NOT doing a stay-at-home order. He said it "would not be advisable" and something something about protecting jobs in counties not affected (which is 20 out of 67). I never paid much attention to this guy before now but my impression is he is not a smart man and kind of a coward!
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Beth3346 on March 24, 2020, 07:31:21 AM
All of the major cities in Texas now have a stay at home order. But no state-wide stay at home order and the LT governor said last night that its ok if grandparents die if it will save the economy. so yeah our state leadership here is not good.

All of a sudden the delivery slots for groceries are all full. i think its because of the stay at home orders. and the news says stores are more crowded than ever. probably because restaurants are closed. i just feel like this crisis shows how vulnerable the systems we rely on for our daily lives are.  I read that a lot of stores have stopped keeping months of inventory on hand because its more profitable to have less. which makes sense but now they are struggling to keep up with demand.

I still see people out in the park but in small groups and families. in spite of our bad leadership and Texas' reputation in the rest of the country we do have a lot of responsible people here.  The irresponsible ones just get the most attention.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 24, 2020, 07:53:12 AM
(Happy Birthday, Beth!)
I'm surprised they didn't announce postponement of the olympics earlier. In case no one has kept up, this was just announced yesterday.
Looking at the news doesn't super stress me out? I don't know, the situation sucks but I feel a bit of comfort keeping up to date.
A ShopRite store nearby (not our local one but nearby) had one worker test positive for the virus. I'd imagine cases like this are going to multiply.
We currently have less cases in PA than NJ, but I'd imagine that will change once more testing is done.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Barnacle_lady on March 24, 2020, 09:20:32 AM
Up here they extended the rules until June 1st. Which means no events, no groupings and only go out when necessary. That makes me real sad.
And I have to go out soon because today heard my last working day will be April 9. My teamleader "expects" less work and from management level its a financial thing. And since I am a temp worker its easy to fire me.
I do get unemployment allowance but not sure what they expect from me now when its difficult to go on job interviews
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on March 24, 2020, 09:42:18 AM
Just saw this bit of stupid news: Since the beaches are closed now people are flocking to islands, most of which are protected. What is wrong with people?
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 24, 2020, 09:55:22 AM
I just learned that my uncle that lives in Colorado is very sick quite possibly with the coronavirus. He has been tested but the result are not in yet.  He refused to follow any of the recommended guidelines. I'm not close to him but it's starting to hit close to home.


Ponyfan 
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on March 24, 2020, 10:10:01 AM
My dad just left the house to... wait for it... buy lottery tickets. Have I mentioned before that he is 71 and has one lung. I don't understand what is so hard about staying at home.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 24, 2020, 11:11:12 AM
I just learned that my uncle that lives in Colorado is very sick quite possibly with the coronavirus. He has been tested but the result are not in yet.  He refused to follow any of the recommended guidelines. I'm not close to him but it's starting to hit close to home.


Ponyfan 

Wishing all the best to your uncle.

Remember that even people in the at risk category largely pull through.

My cousin's husband (a teacher) has apparently had the virus, but he is recovering from it (he did not need hospital). Thus far my cousin and the two kids are fine.  At least, the presumption is that it's the virus given the symptoms, he hasn't been tested but he had the fever, cough, etc. My Uncle and Aunt just came back from holiday in Norfolk golfing (sigh). Aunt has a thyroid problem, Uncle various other issues, both over 70. But they haven't seen their grandkids/daughter so hopefully are so far fine.  My aunt can drive so I doubt they were using public transport, hopefully they stay put now.

There's not a lot to add here in the UK since last night, tbh. The shutdown doesn't affect us at the moment because we were already doing the things we were told to do, and this area is quite small anyway. Or at least, you see people out jogging and dog walking, it's an urban village and overall has a few thousand people, but they're not right on top of each other. My neighbours had a yelling conversation across the road yesterday, when we came back from the walk, parents greeted them all cheerfully, all about five metres apart.

The only thing is that since last night the food sites have gone a bit nuts. BUT I utterly support that Morrisons has started time limiting slot reservation - Ie you can't reserve a booking slot now without an order for longer than an hour, which some people were doing weeks in advance. Asda also lets slots expire without an order within a certain number of hours. I have no idea about Sainsburys since we haven't yet managed to get in to their website ><.

Dad has a very strict set of diet requirements (ie he can't have anything that has high fat or saturates that are over 1.9% - he prefers it to be closer to 1 - so that means a lot of reading the details when doing online orders.

The biggest issue at the moment is medication but hopefully Dad's had his put through to the chemist here, rather than in town. That said, if I have to go into town, the bus pass restrictions are lifted here to allow pensioners to stagger their travel and make early shopping hours and that will probably also apply to disability passes like mine, so I will try and go to the town chemist early and then attempt (!) to walk home (the last time I did that successfully on my own was about 15 years ago, wish me luck :P)

The buses ran empty all day today. And that's interesting given that our bus route (despite being infrequent) is the one that goes to the most supermarkets. Seems like people round here have already got other plans in motion.

No new info from my area and not really spending much time on the news front at the moment. Local news is still reporting the stuff from yesterday. I know there will be a new hospital built in London apparently - which people think will probably have the peak of the epidemic (however it also has the biggest UK population so unsurprising).

Our numbers are still going up but not yet as rapidly as some of our near neighbours - I just don't know how accurate/time limited tests are, how many tests are now being done...so I'm not going to report the figures here.

Govt also says it has 3.5 million antibody tests hopefully to see if people have had the illness and recovered (esp health workers). Some part of their data mapping to track the spread and slow it by identifying more people who may have passed it on without knowing they had it...or something.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 24, 2020, 03:18:44 PM
The comic book industry is in trouble:
https://comicbook.com/comics/2020/03/23/diamond-comics-stops-shipments-new-comics-coronavirus-marvel-dc-/

Diamond is the only supplier of comics and related items to pretty much the world, so this will affect everyone from the publishers to the mom and pop stores.

They had the first case in Shawnee county/Topeka today (glad I went there today), and the lockdown will start Thursday. And we're up to 98 cases in the state now. A good amount of the people who work where I do come from Topeka. We got the "permission slip" to be able to go to work during this last night. It's only a matter of time
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 24, 2020, 03:27:01 PM
Latest US news on a federal level is Trump is champing at the bit to lift the social distancing restrictions within two weeks.  It's going to be a disaster if he does that.  His reasoning isn't based in science.  Basically, he's upset because he thinks the virus is making him look bad due to the stock market going down.  I just hope people listen to the doctors and scientists.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 24, 2020, 04:18:38 PM
Latest US news on a federal level is Trump is champing at the bit to lift the social distancing restrictions within two weeks.  It's going to be a disaster if he does that.  His reasoning isn't based in science.  Basically, he's upset because he thinks the virus is making him look bad due to the stock market going down.  I just hope people listen to the doctors and scientists.

Wait, what?
As in over ride states that have an order to "stay at home" (Or whatever each state calls it)? Because I didn't think there was a federal thing in place.

Is this not common sense --> the economy is going to take a hit. But if there is no precaution taken by the american public -- the economy will take a worse hit-- and hospitals will be overloaded.

Heaven help us. u_u;
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 24, 2020, 05:16:26 PM
He won't override what the states are doing but he's raring to "restart the economy", by which he means encouraging healthy Americans to return to work and businesses to reopen. He wants everything back to normal by Easter.

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Trump in a Fox News virtual town hall doubled down on his push to reopen businesses in a matter of weeks in order to reinvigorate an economy stunned by the growing pandemic.

“You can destroy a country this way, by closing it down, where it literally goes from being the most prosperous,” Trump said. “I would love to have the country opened up and just raring to go by Easter,” Trump later added.

source (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489251-trump-says-he-hopes-to-have-economy-reopen-by-easter)

This might sound crazy, but I think preventing the loss of human life is more important than being "the most prosperous."
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 24, 2020, 05:17:08 PM
Latest US news on a federal level is Trump is champing at the bit to lift the social distancing restrictions within two weeks.  It's going to be a disaster if he does that.  His reasoning isn't based in science.  Basically, he's upset because he thinks the virus is making him look bad due to the stock market going down.  I just hope people listen to the doctors and scientists.

Wait, what?
As in over ride states that have an order to "stay at home" (Or whatever each state calls it)? Because I didn't think there was a federal thing in place.

Is this not common sense --> the economy is going to take a hit. But if there is no precaution taken by the american public -- the economy will take a worse hit-- and hospitals will be overloaded.

Heaven help us. u_u;

On this note, we don't have that problem at the top at present, but two idiot things from the UK news today...

One - people having a barbeque in Coventry that the Police had to break up. A day after the lockdown order. Which was sent to EVERY mobile phone by text telling people to stay home. Yeah, it was sunny. So what?

And two - some people up north in pubs - the pubs are closed, but they were still hosting gatherings inside. I hope they lose their licences as that's a public health violation of epic proportions. How can they possibly know that nobody they've let in is going to spread the virus to other people?

Gah.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 24, 2020, 06:00:11 PM
He won't override what the states are doing but he's raring to "restart the economy", by which he means encouraging healthy Americans to return to work and businesses to reopen. He wants everything back to normal by Easter.

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Trump in a Fox News virtual town hall doubled down on his push to reopen businesses in a matter of weeks in order to reinvigorate an economy stunned by the growing pandemic.

“You can destroy a country this way, by closing it down, where it literally goes from being the most prosperous,” Trump said. “I would love to have the country opened up and just raring to go by Easter,” Trump later added.

source (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489251-trump-says-he-hopes-to-have-economy-reopen-by-easter)

This might sound crazy, but I think preventing the loss of human life is more important than being "the most prosperous."

-_-; Ah, maybe I did hear that nonsense. I think it was brought up during Ohio's press conference today. DeWine's response was yes, we all wish that the economy would be up and running, but health comes first. And that if we don't do social distancing/etc, then our economy will be worse.

I feel like I'm close to being checked out of news for awhile.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Mareacooda on March 24, 2020, 07:44:58 PM
My county no report outbreak most for our state down south and around capital... couple cases county near by...  Our Governor place official order today only essential which some businesses already put this force few who weren't have permits..  My husband place work already issue waive slip place employees vechiles if more issues arise ( company base out Candian) ... 
Alot friends with children luckily one parents working...
I check on few Seniors insure enough diet restricted food... They really nervous how virus unfolding and fear if they get that government will just let them die due their age...
I think our country so made up forest or farm lands not alot big cities that probably help plus we still experience end winter spells where southern state already grass...
Also State closed all islands on coast strictly residents only... (This when state have tourists come to check lighthouse puffins ect...
Boarder to Candian close only those trucking which help....My area gets flood alot with boarder Canadians who act like entiltle ( drives both local and deeper part Candians nutz)
I and my husband focus keep our livestock feed until pasture up..  With I happy some other farmers always help point out who has what...
Society needs working togather and keep each other safe...
Alot chatter going on how far government might go.. ( even violated constitutional rights) due people simple not respectful, greedy so forth...
I want thank u all posting helping others see what going area it helps see what is working so forth...
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Beth3346 on March 24, 2020, 10:17:48 PM
Latest US news on a federal level is Trump is champing at the bit to lift the social distancing restrictions within two weeks.  It's going to be a disaster if he does that.  His reasoning isn't based in science.  Basically, he's upset because he thinks the virus is making him look bad due to the stock market going down.  I just hope people listen to the doctors and scientists.

Wait, what?
As in over ride states that have an order to "stay at home" (Or whatever each state calls it)? Because I didn't think there was a federal thing in place.

Is this not common sense --> the economy is going to take a hit. But if there is no precaution taken by the american public -- the economy will take a worse hit-- and hospitals will be overloaded.

Heaven help us. u_u;

He can't override the states but he can withhold funding to try and coerce states into doing what he wants. I'm not sure if governors can force local governments to end the "stay at home" orders.  I know with the sanctuary cities Trump withheld funding. the governor here in Texas forced all of the cities to comply with an order saying they could not be sanctuary cities.

It is up to the people who know better to just keep staying home. But i'm worried about what will happen when school opens. I'm sure a lot of companies also want their employees back in the office. and stores will want to re-open. people will have to start going back out. i just don't see any realistic good outcome.

I know the economy can't slow down forever but it seems like there are other ways businesses can make money. They refuse to order businesses to make ventilators, masks and other necessary hospital equipment (i don't know anything about medicine). But if Trump did order businesses to produce these products it wouldn't be an act of charity. these companies would get paid.

I imagine that countless unnecessary deaths would also be bad for the economy and the election. personally if i have to choose between my job and millions of lives i would rather lose my job. how is that even a choice? it's just so disappointing that we don't have better national leadership. It seems like some governors are doing a good job. And not making this a partisan issue either.

It didn't have to be this way. We all deserve better.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: tikibirds on March 25, 2020, 01:04:01 AM
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It is up to the people who know better to just keep staying home.
The problem is, Americans don't know better and have a selfish personality thinking "Oh, I am healthy. Why should I stay home? The government can't tell me what to do"  The infection rate in the USA is going to surpass the infection rate here and EVERYTHING was shut down for almost TWO MONTHS - movement was strictly controlled.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 25, 2020, 01:24:47 AM
The above could apply here too with the covert pub gatherings etc discovered yesterday. But at least here businesses have been called to arms and one company has shared it's ventilator IP so we will just have to see how it pans out.

Liberty is a great thing but should not be used at the expense of other people.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 25, 2020, 04:51:07 AM
Quote
It is up to the people who know better to just keep staying home.
The problem is, Americans don't know better and have a selfish personality thinking "Oh, I am healthy. Why should I stay home? The government can't tell me what to do"  The infection rate in the USA is going to surpass the infection rate here and EVERYTHING was shut down for almost TWO MONTHS - movement was strictly controlled.

Lots of Americans are taking this seriously, and I agree, it's up to us who do to keep staying home.

As for those who don't -- Our government has dropped the ball on testing, so a lot of people think that the numbers are low. And beyond that, we had a lot of misinformation. Like we shouldn't wear masks. It's just the flu. It's an old person disease. It's easy to see why some people don't have the facts or understanding.

I think it's better to look at Hong Kong or South Korea on how they are handling it instead of China. To say more is to get into too much politics.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Mareacooda on March 25, 2020, 06:18:30 AM
Latest US news on a federal level is Trump is champing at the bit to lift the social distancing restrictions within two weeks.  It's going to be a disaster if he does that.  His reasoning isn't based in science.  Basically, he's upset because he thinks the virus is making him look bad due to the stock market going down.  I just hope people listen to the doctors and scientists.

Wait, what?
As in over ride states that have an order to "stay at home" (Or whatever each state calls it)? Because I didn't think there was a federal thing in place.

Is this not common sense --> the economy is going to take a hit. But if there is no precaution taken by the american public -- the economy will take a worse hit-- and hospitals will be overloaded.

Heaven help us. u_u;

He can't override the states but he can withhold funding to try and coerce states into doing what he wants. I'm not sure if governors can force local governments to end the "stay at home" orders.  I know with the sanctuary cities Trump withheld funding. the governor here in Texas forced all of the cities to comply with an order saying they could not be sanctuary cities.

It is up to the people who know better to just keep staying home. But i'm worried about what will happen when school opens. I'm sure a lot of companies also want their employees back in the office. and stores will want to re-open. people will have to start going back out. i just don't see any realistic good outcome.

I know the economy can't slow down forever but it seems like there are other ways businesses can make money. They refuse to order businesses to make ventilators, masks and other necessary hospital equipment (i don't know anything about medicine). But if Trump did order businesses to produce these products it wouldn't be an act of charity. these companies would get paid.

I imagine that countless unnecessary deaths would also be bad for the economy and the election. personally if i have to choose between my job and millions of lives i would rather lose my job. how is that even a choice? it's just so disappointing that we don't have better national leadership. It seems like some governors are doing a good job. And not making this a partisan issue either.

It didn't have to be this way. We all deserve better.
Sadly Federal rules laws trump over states laws, cities ect laws..  So President Trump can force States to compile...  States aren't own little countries as some states try act but I think President Trump should hear out each governor of states concern and high risk breakout area...
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 25, 2020, 06:39:22 AM
I think he is trying to set up a narrative of "If the economy suffers it's not MY fault, it's the governors' fault."  Similar to Florida governor DeSantis:  "Gawrsh, it's not MY fault if the beaches stay open, it's up to individual counties to close them."  You're the governor, close the beaches!

It's worrying because a lot of people do take Trump's word as gospel.  Including a lot of older people.  My mom is 80 and one of her friends, who is also elderly, told her with complete confidence that the coronavirus would disappear any day now because Trump said it would.  So here I am across the state worrying about this stranger who isn't taking this seriously and wondering how I can keep her six feet away from my mom.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 25, 2020, 06:45:31 AM

Sadly Federal rules laws trump over states laws, cities ect laws..  So President Trump can force States to compile...  States aren't own little countries as some states try act but I think President Trump should hear out each governor of states concern and high risk breakout area...

I read into it a little this morning. My understanding is no, he can not force states to do anything.. however as mentioned by Beth3346, he can withhold funds from states that ask for help.

It's worrying because a lot of people do take Trump's word as gospel.  Including a lot of older people.   

I would of thought my dad would be like that -- if you looked at him, I'm sure people would would make the blind judgement he's a Trump supporter. Strangely he thinks Trump is an idiot. (We don't talk about politics, but something came out one day). I'm so happy for that.
I just don't understand how people could listen to him... it's so crazy, and scary. :(
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Wardah on March 25, 2020, 08:16:22 AM
I think he is trying to set up a narrative of "If the economy suffers it's not MY fault, it's the governors' fault."  Similar to Florida governor DeSantis:  "Gawrsh, it's not MY fault if the beaches stay open, it's up to individual counties to close them."  You're the governor, close the beaches!

It's worrying because a lot of people do take Trump's word as gospel.  Including a lot of older people.  My mom is 80 and one of her friends, who is also elderly, told her with complete confidence that the coronavirus would disappear any day now because Trump said it would.  So here I am across the state worrying about this stranger who isn't taking this seriously and wondering how I can keep her six feet away from my mom.

It's not even warm yet and people here, surprise surprise, are not practicing social distancing while on the boardwalks and beaches. They are of course threatening to shut it down. The beaches could stay open if they sent out people to enforce distancing and gave fines to people who broke the rules. Then people who keep away from others can have fresh air. It will suck if the only way I can cool off when it gets hot is in my shower.

One thing I read about is some people who live alone are agreeing to keep away from everyone else but one or two friends that they visit. Of course it doesn't work if any of them are still working but if they are otherwise not seeing other people how different is this than an extended family.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 25, 2020, 08:29:34 AM
I have the news on all day at work and I think what the president talked about was more like that he 'hopes' that the country can start back up by easter but that people would still have to practice the same 'rules' they're pushing and also if I remember rightly, because the 24 news is on repeat most of the time, what he talked about was more like it's a possibility that parts of the country may be able to start back but that not places where most of the infection is located, (New York) etc. etc.

Which technically it really depends on where you live and what state you're living in. Now they're talking about people who are trying to leave New York or people who left New York earlier are probably spreading the virus to wherever they headed.

But then again, I don't see of an effective way for the government to control everyone and force them to stay in their house. I'd personally have a problem with that, at least in this situation.

My local Walmart had us make a sign that says no overnight parking. Because people with campers started filling the parking lot staying overnight. So people with RV's are traveling and I have a feeling whereever they were camping, the campsite probably closed. Walmart is usually good for letting truckers and folks park in their parking lots but now the population of folks who live in RV's are moving about, this is obviously something the 'government' really hasn't considered, just how many people and older populations don't have houses but live/travel in RV's as their retirement or alternate living to having a regular house.

and yes, I'm at work but don't worry, VA says I'm essential (LOL!)







Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 25, 2020, 10:09:55 AM
Some notes from the UK today...

Prince Charles has the virus, though mildly, and apparently is self-isolating. He's not with the Queen who is said to be fine.

Lockdown is very boring and my mother is not designed to be kept inside. I may go crazy before lockdown is released.

Otherwise all much as yesterday.

The Press Conference tonight is mostly focused on how to increase testing capacities and how to get NHS staff tested as a priority.

One very positive note that speaks better for this nation than the idiots and their barbeque yesterday...

Yesterday our Health Minister asked for 250,000 volunteers (healthy people) to help support the NHS.

In 24 hours more than 400,000 people have come forward.

Press conferences held by video link instead of reporters in situ.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: brightberry on March 25, 2020, 10:27:02 AM
There are known 98 cases in my area.  All non-essential businesses are shut down.  Doctors have all texted their clients to stay home.

My city has put crime scene tape all around the playground equipment and BBQ.  If someone didn't know something was up before, they know now.  :P
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 25, 2020, 11:41:54 AM
My state is up to 126 cases now, and a 3rd death in Kansas City. And they're expecting the number of cases to hit almost 400 by the end of the month. And now there's only 2 counties next to mine that haven't done a stay at home order yet. The governor has announced she will leave such orders to local governments instead of statewide.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 25, 2020, 12:16:10 PM
I just learned that my uncle that lives in Colorado is very sick quite possibly with the coronavirus. He has been tested but the result are not in yet.  He refused to follow any of the recommended guidelines. I'm not close to him but it's starting to hit close to home.


Ponyfan 

Wishing all the best to your uncle.

Remember that even people in the at risk category largely pull through.



Thank you Taffeta. I haven't heard anything else about him yet.

One of the local districts is still looking for students to return to classroom learning on April 6th the first day possible to reopen if the governor doesn't issue an executive order to dismiss school of the rest of the year.

My area is up to 14 cases but it's spreading to other local counties. There has been at least one case confirmed in a city about 2 hrs away from me where the virus was spread by an infected person touching a gas pump and then another person touching the same case pump.

Somewhere in the state some people held a coronavirus party and at least one person now has it.


Ponyfan

Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: melodys_angel on March 25, 2020, 12:58:42 PM
All non essential businesses are closed and starting tonight there will be a mandatory 14 day isolation period for anyone (excluding people like truckers) entering Canada.  Some provinces are doing one based on their borders.  And I just heard that one city is going to try to shut down playgrounds.

The gov't is also fed up about people not heading warnings and is focusing on the fact that this thing has not bias on age.  30 somethings are in ICU along with 80 somethings.  I think it was PEI that went on a rampage on tv a few days ago because people were gathering at a beach and failed to listen to police.

Theres a new law that is coming out today as well with how the gov't can help with financial things.  Umm.....yeah.    I think the moral of the lesson is ignorance lands you and everyone else in ICU.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: MerryAnvil on March 25, 2020, 01:06:28 PM
My county still has just 3 cases, but there have now been 164 cases confirmed in my state, with 5 deaths total. My sister's workplace is now requiring temperature checks at the door, and they now also require an admin override to clock in afterwards so that they can ensure that only people who've been checked are allowed into the kitchen. Basically everything cooking-wise has been picked over at stores. My mom wasn't able to find butter, buttermilk, milk, bread, etc. She was able to get one pack each of toilet paper and paper towels, and apparently the Wal-mart bakery has begun making bread and filling the shelves with it as much as they can due to the shortage of bread.

Our mayor declared yesterday that beauty shops, barbershops, health clubs, spas, tattoo parlors, tanning salons, massage parlors, and nail salons will be closed. He is also putting in a 6-foot rule for lines where stores have to either a) put markers on the floor to show people where to stand or b) require every person to get a cart to attempt to ensure a 6-foot distance between people. I have no idea how that will work or how it'll be enforced, but I guess we'll know soon enough. The mayor has also issued a warning that people found to be having gatherings of 10 or more people may be fined $560.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Gator on March 25, 2020, 01:22:02 PM
Georgia (in USA) has passed 1,000 cases and up to 40 deaths now.  I wish more cities and towns would go into lockdown/shelter in place. 
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 25, 2020, 01:28:15 PM
Georgia (in USA) has passed 1,000 cases and up to 40 deaths now.  I wish more cities and towns would go into lockdown/shelter in place. 

Does Atlanta and surrounding counties have most cases? Just taking a wild guess.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 25, 2020, 01:29:20 PM
I learned today that Ohio's stay at home order has something written in it if any business acts irresponsibly-- they can be shut down with enforcement even if they are an essential business.

and 16% of our numbers represent healthcare workers.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 25, 2020, 01:33:33 PM
Behold Virginia's you can go to work list:

What stays open
Essential retail businesses can stay open. They include:

Grocery stores, pharmacies and other retailers that sell food and beverage products or pharmacy products, including dollar stores, and department stores with grocery or pharmacy operations;
Medical, laboratory and vision supply retailers;
Electronic retailers that sell or service cellphones, computers, tablets and other communications technology;
Automotive parts, accessories and tire retailers, as well as automotive repair facilities;
Home improvement, hardware, building material and building supply retailers;
Lawn and garden equipment retailers;
Beer, wine and liquor stores;
Retail functions of gas stations and convenience stores;
Retail located within health care facilities;
Banks and other financial institutions with retail functions;
Pet and feed stores;
Printing and office supply stores; and
Laundromats and dry cleaners.


Apparently, I'm essential. :cool:
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 25, 2020, 01:37:45 PM
In terms of age range and impact - among the people who passed away in the UK with a positive test, ages go between 18 and 105.

Some of those people including a 21 year old woman did not have underlying known conditions.

Everyone needs to follow the guidance and stay safe, young and old. But I emphasise even in risk categories most people who get the right support if needed still beat it. So it isn't reason for panic either.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 25, 2020, 01:45:42 PM
Holy guacamole we are at over 1000 cases in PA. Wasn't it just at 400 last I posted or something?
More than 10% of these cases needed hospitalization. Something something numbers not accurate but it is a spooky statistic even with that consideration. I have found something that gives numbers on ICU beds available and it says 40% are avaliable but the number is quickly changing.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Gator on March 25, 2020, 01:47:17 PM
Karentheunicorn, yes, most are in Atlanta.  My brother is in the Metro area, his county has over 100 cases.  I'm between Atlanta and Athens, and my county has one case.  Athens in neighboring county has 15.  I feel like being between to big cities, it will eventually spread to fill in and I'll be trapped in the midst of it all.

I told my brother we may not see one another for months.  He said I'm being crazy.  I said I'm being serious, this is scary.  If this goes like Italy here in regards to number of deaths, we may not ever see one another again.  I'm worried with my health issues what would happen if I get this.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 25, 2020, 01:49:19 PM
Holy guacamole we are at over 1000 cases in PA. Wasn't it just at 400 last I posted or something?
More than 10% of these cases needed hospitalization. Something something numbers not accurate but it is a spooky statistic even with that consideration. I have found something that gives numbers on ICU beds available and it says 40% are avaliable but the number is quickly changing.


Kinda crazy how the exponential curve is, huh... u_u;

My dad asked me if he thought he could go out to get something silly. He actually was serious instead of teasing me. And I told him no, and reminded him how these numbers are lagged by 2 weeks AND are hardly representational.


Oh! I forgot to add.
There might of been a traceback to my county's first confirmed case. Some manager of a mc donalds got sick in late January after coming home from a cruise. And 2 others got sick. And the confirmed case was a neighbor of one of the employees and they had contact with each other. :(
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 25, 2020, 02:11:52 PM
Personally I seesaw between thinking everyone has lost their mind, and then thinking yea good idea government, lock them all up at home. My brain has too many dualities in it.

However, I have yet to panic or hoard toilet paper, but then I have to buy for 2 locations, business and home so I'm generally buying in bulk for certain things anyway.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on March 25, 2020, 02:57:37 PM
The mayor of Logan City just announced that we have a 4th case in Cache County, Utah.  All four were contracted by traveling.  Still just the one death statewide as far I know.  We've all been told to do social distancing and I think most people are following that.  So far nobody's been forced to close, I think the locations that have closed around here have done so voluntarily as a precaution.  Food service has gone to drive-through/pick-up/delivery only, but I think that was a statewide mandate and as far as I've seen, it's been complied with.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Beth3346 on March 25, 2020, 03:52:14 PM
Well if this is true its good news.

"Preliminary data from MIT researchers indicate the new coronavirus is not spreading as efficiently in warmer, more humid regions of the world."
https://www.kxan.com/weather/weather-blog/why-friday-could-be-coronavirus-spread-turning-point-in-austin/

But what does that mean for the Fall and Winter? In the 1918 flu epidemic the virus went away during the summer and came back with a vengeance in the fall. At least it could buy us some time to prepare.  I'm really just looking for a ray of hope here.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: brightberry on March 25, 2020, 04:16:33 PM
Well if this is true its good news.

"Preliminary data from MIT researchers indicate the new coronavirus is not spreading as efficiently in warmer, more humid regions of the world."
https://www.kxan.com/weather/weather-blog/why-friday-could-be-coronavirus-spread-turning-point-in-austin/

But what does that mean for the Fall and Winter? In the 1918 flu epidemic the virus went away during the summer and came back with a vengeance in the fall. At least it could buy us some time to prepare.  I'm really just looking for a ray of hope here.

I really hope that's true.  I'm tired of running low on supplies and making do.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 25, 2020, 04:23:02 PM
Well if this is true its good news.

"Preliminary data from MIT researchers indicate the new coronavirus is not spreading as efficiently in warmer, more humid regions of the world."
https://www.kxan.com/weather/weather-blog/why-friday-could-be-coronavirus-spread-turning-point-in-austin/

But what does that mean for the Fall and Winter? In the 1918 flu epidemic the virus went away during the summer and came back with a vengeance in the fall. At least it could buy us some time to prepare.  I'm really just looking for a ray of hope here.

Isn't florida pretty warm.. and humid?

I'd take it with a grain of salt. Keep doing the social distancing, that's what's needed.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 25, 2020, 04:35:45 PM
I wonder about this simply based on the UK vs other European countries. We had our first case as early as some of those places, but it's not spread as fast until now. Remember we didn't close our borders (and still haven't).

We have a cooler climate than most of them (Esp Italy, Spain).

It's spreading worst here in London/SE (logical given the density of population), and Hampshire, also southerly and warmer at this time of year.

That's not to say it isn't spreading in Scotland or the North either, though, or here in the Midlands.

I wonder also about humidity as a factor in this, rather than temperature. I haven't seen anyone really looking into that.

There's also the matter of spread in SE Asia. It's not cold there and humidity is high.

It's all guesswork, but our science people have been cautiously warning against assumptions re-temperature because of the wide scope of the outbreak across countries.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on March 25, 2020, 04:36:29 PM
We've been above average temperature wise but it's very dry, no humidity.

Nearly 2000 cases today, over 100 tourists and 23 deaths.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 25, 2020, 05:05:59 PM
5 more cases today brining the total to 19.

I have to vent a little. Before all of the restrictions my family usually took an elderly neighbor out with us to go walk or to the store if she needed something. Since the restrictions were put in place we have only been going out when necessary. The neighbor called today and said she went out shopping with her cousin and listed several places they went. I was shocked that they don’t seem to care about possibly catching the virus.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Beth3346 on March 25, 2020, 05:21:53 PM
Well if this is true its good news.

"Preliminary data from MIT researchers indicate the new coronavirus is not spreading as efficiently in warmer, more humid regions of the world."
https://www.kxan.com/weather/weather-blog/why-friday-could-be-coronavirus-spread-turning-point-in-austin/

But what does that mean for the Fall and Winter? In the 1918 flu epidemic the virus went away during the summer and came back with a vengeance in the fall. At least it could buy us some time to prepare.  I'm really just looking for a ray of hope here.

Isn't florida pretty warm.. and humid?

I'd take it with a grain of salt. Keep doing the social distancing, that's what's needed.

Yeah and so is Spain. I'm just looking for some hope.  I feel like even if it dies down in the summer we'll just get complacent and it will be terrible in the fall.

"Fauci sees signs of the virus becoming cyclical, like the flu."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/world/coronavirus-news-live.html#link-67e197dc

I feel like I'll be social distancing for a long time. I don't think i'll feel better about going out to a busy store or restaurant for a long time. I think this virus was around in a lot of countries before we started seeing official cases. This article interviews a doctor in Italy who says they were seeing bad cases of pneumonia in November and December. There's really no way to know for sure without tests.
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/817974987/every-single-individual-must-stay-home-italy-s-coronavirus-deaths-pass-china-s

Until we have a lot of testing I don't think we have a chance.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 25, 2020, 05:50:59 PM
Amazon warehouse workers in 8 places have tested positive:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/amazon-warehouses-coronavirus_n_5e7b030ac5b6d01bd1545e9e?fbclid=IwAR3bFr3KFwkgZnsnnG8kje1bpoURgrmw0hzqVpToLoPwpPraBoJ9JiZJ-bM

Makes me wonder if I should spray bleach on the 2 packages i'll be getting from them soon.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Beth3346 on March 25, 2020, 06:27:45 PM
I’ve been wiping my packages down with Clorox wipes before I open them. Or I just leave them for a few days before I open them.

I just treat anything that comes in the house like a biohazard.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Wardah on March 25, 2020, 06:40:20 PM
5 more cases today brining the total to 19.

I have to vent a little. Before all of the restrictions my family usually took an elderly neighbor out with us to go walk or to the store if she needed something. Since the restrictions were put in place we have only been going out when necessary. The neighbor called today and said she went out shopping with her cousin and listed several places they went. I was shocked that they don’t seem to care about possibly catching the virus.

Ponyfan

Did they have to go multiple places because she needed things and places were out of them? Of course just her cousin should have gone. Me and my boyfriend needed things so he went by himself when before we would go shopping together. I really wanted to go too but I figured it would be safer that way.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Mareacooda on March 25, 2020, 08:18:16 PM
At moment in my state 118 case 74 case located one county which today mane city in that county remind public social distance and spell out rules and Express anyone not follow rules will fine $500 each fraction...
So far my county has no reports....
My husband place work had state all remain workers must inform them if they or member of household leave county...  If caught breaking will be dismiss and will not allow back unless clean bill health from Doctor.. ( Talk that gossip that may simple fire ya) ... This so far only essential site in this county doing this.... My friend wife is nurse and they are have all staff before check in for shift prescreening and temp check insure safety public anyone show any sign even raise temp report a doctor to be exam and will not allow back until clean bill health from a doctor.
My Aunt currently stuck in Floridia Walmart park lot due camp ground close but she said that area she in not very populated area and low.. She didn't say if any case in that area.. She just want let me know she safe and ok...
I today when out barn check goats and brush down equines...  I did see few walker on my road which actually most active I see in a while on this road since crisis... I did had people message me on facebook to see if laying hen to sell or milking goats mostly locals I know...
Tomorrow I have run town appt and grab essentials for myself and animals... ( I normal travel to another county for prefer grain my goats like but I grab different brand local for now... I hoping local feed store do get the feed brand I us on my rabbits since they little delicate change than goats/ equine or birds...)
I do know one my friend who Sled Musher hoping that thing return normal in a month she concern that she will run out on formula diet food for her sled dogs that she gets in Canada... 
Both me and her tend have issue travel to proved quality food for animals that do best on!

Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 26, 2020, 08:00:52 AM
Well if this is true its good news.

"Preliminary data from MIT researchers indicate the new coronavirus is not spreading as efficiently in warmer, more humid regions of the world."
https://www.kxan.com/weather/weather-blog/why-friday-could-be-coronavirus-spread-turning-point-in-austin/

But what does that mean for the Fall and Winter? In the 1918 flu epidemic the virus went away during the summer and came back with a vengeance in the fall. At least it could buy us some time to prepare.  I'm really just looking for a ray of hope here.

Isn't florida pretty warm.. and humid?

I'd take it with a grain of salt. Keep doing the social distancing, that's what's needed.

I've been to Daytona and Orlando and froze my butt off; we're talking OMG all the orange trees are gonna die kinda cold. So it just depends on time of year, etc.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 26, 2020, 08:43:58 AM
Well if this is true its good news.

"Preliminary data from MIT researchers indicate the new coronavirus is not spreading as efficiently in warmer, more humid regions of the world."
https://www.kxan.com/weather/weather-blog/why-friday-could-be-coronavirus-spread-turning-point-in-austin/

But what does that mean for the Fall and Winter? In the 1918 flu epidemic the virus went away during the summer and came back with a vengeance in the fall. At least it could buy us some time to prepare.  I'm really just looking for a ray of hope here.

Isn't florida pretty warm.. and humid?

I'd take it with a grain of salt. Keep doing the social distancing, that's what's needed.

I've been to Daytona and Orlando and froze my butt off; we're talking OMG all the orange trees are gonna die kinda cold. So it just depends on time of year, etc.

I guess it's relative.
right now those places are 76 and 77, which is like a pleasant summer day up here. *shrug*
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 26, 2020, 10:16:34 AM
Without being too political about it, may I just record my extreme disgust that the UK Govt is putting Brexit ahead of the lives of citizens by refusing to join the EU's scheme to make more medical equipment/ventilators etc available. This surely is NOT the time to be drawing borders when everyone is fighting the same battle, and every little helps.

Surely ideologies can be put aside until this business is done with, because people's lives are way more important.

Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 26, 2020, 10:25:02 AM
Well this is it. My county is getting a lockdown order midnight Saturday (even though we haven't had any cases).  And it's around 136 cases statewide now.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 26, 2020, 10:25:56 AM
Well if this is true its good news.

"Preliminary data from MIT researchers indicate the new coronavirus is not spreading as efficiently in warmer, more humid regions of the world."
https://www.kxan.com/weather/weather-blog/why-friday-could-be-coronavirus-spread-turning-point-in-austin/

But what does that mean for the Fall and Winter? In the 1918 flu epidemic the virus went away during the summer and came back with a vengeance in the fall. At least it could buy us some time to prepare.  I'm really just looking for a ray of hope here.

Isn't florida pretty warm.. and humid?

I'd take it with a grain of salt. Keep doing the social distancing, that's what's needed.

I've been to Daytona and Orlando and froze my butt off; we're talking OMG all the orange trees are gonna die kinda cold. So it just depends on time of year, etc.

I guess it's relative.
right now those places are 76 and 77, which is like a pleasant summer day up here. *shrug*

I've been in Feb for the nascar race, which is in Daytona and I've had to bundle up with blankets and coat/hat, etc. Last time I went we were not really prepaired and Dad actually found some cardboard for us to put at our back to cut down on the cold wind.

Fricking Atlanta, Georgia nascar race is probably the coldest I've ever been at a racetrack.

I think as far as FL goes, it's more like once you get down to the Miami area where it doesn't get that cold. I remember my friend moved back there and that year it got in the 60's and she told me the school teacher FORCED her to put on a coat because she insisted it was cold. LOL!

So it's even relative to where you grew up in what you consider cold, etc.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 26, 2020, 10:30:39 AM
1600 cases and counting. Philly has 400 cases, my county has about 1/4 that but it's nothing to sneeze at.
Just heard someone north coughed on a bunch of produce at the store and the grocery store had to throw it out...
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on March 26, 2020, 11:16:53 AM
2355 cases, 120 tourists and 28 deaths.

Of course, the highest numbers are in cities that have the drive thru testing being done; Miami, Jacksonville and Orlando. They want to open more but I don't know where.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 26, 2020, 12:18:46 PM
5 more cases today brining the total to 19.

I have to vent a little. Before all of the restrictions my family usually took an elderly neighbor out with us to go walk or to the store if she needed something. Since the restrictions were put in place we have only been going out when necessary. The neighbor called today and said she went out shopping with her cousin and listed several places they went. I was shocked that they don’t seem to care about possibly catching the virus.

Ponyfan

Did they have to go multiple places because she needed things and places were out of them? Of course just her cousin should have gone. Me and my boyfriend needed things so he went by himself when before we would go shopping together. I really wanted to go too but I figured it would be safer that way.


I think they went out for fun, not because they needed anything.


All non essential medical appointments are cancelled until further notice in my city. Not sure if the order came from the mayor or the governor. My mom had some routine appointments after the shelter in place order was given last week and they were not cancelled.

My job made it official that we won't be compensated for the time that we can't work due to the governor's executive order. I understand their decision and I will be okay because I am already living with my parents and don't make enough income on my own for me to live on my own but hearing my job say that they will not pay us for the time we can't work stings.

Ponyfan     
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Wardah on March 26, 2020, 12:44:19 PM
5 more cases today brining the total to 19.

I have to vent a little. Before all of the restrictions my family usually took an elderly neighbor out with us to go walk or to the store if she needed something. Since the restrictions were put in place we have only been going out when necessary. The neighbor called today and said she went out shopping with her cousin and listed several places they went. I was shocked that they don’t seem to care about possibly catching the virus.

Ponyfan

Did they have to go multiple places because she needed things and places were out of them? Of course just her cousin should have gone. Me and my boyfriend needed things so he went by himself when before we would go shopping together. I really wanted to go too but I figured it would be safer that way.


I think they went out for fun, not because they needed anything.


All non essential medical appointments are cancelled until further notice in my city. Not sure if the order came from the mayor or the governor. My mom had some routine appointments after the shelter in place order was given last week and they were not cancelled.

My job made it official that we won't be compensated for the time that we can't work due to the governor's executive order. I understand their decision and I will be okay because I am already living with my parents and don't make enough income on my own for me to live on my own but hearing my job say that they will not pay us for the time we can't work stings.

Ponyfan     


I think it's because they figure you can just file for unemployment.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 26, 2020, 02:25:26 PM
My state is now up to 168. Nearly 3,000 tests came back negative. The KC metro area continues to lead the pack.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 26, 2020, 03:14:17 PM
UK govt have promised (we'll see) to pay 80% of salaries of businesses that apply to them for help over this so they won't have to lay off staff and today made some similar provision for self-employed people (albeit it sounds complex as heck and still requires applying for UC I think in the short term as it won't actually pay out till June...)

Does the US's new stimulus package not do something similar for workers so they can stay in their jobs even if they're not able to work (rather than filing for unemployment)?

Trump is not the clearest at explaining anything but that was kind of what it sounded like he thought it was.

On my earlier comment, apparently now the Govt here suddenly decided they just accidentally 'missed' the EU invite and wouldn't rule out accepting a future one...because they realised the country are not amused by partisan Brexit behaviour in a crisis. Brexit can happen when everyone is healthy - I think only the most nutty Brexiteer would refuse a ventilator because it came originally from the EU store.

And Dyson are making ventilators, subject to safety checks.

London is pretty crazy. Here we still have 2 deaths and now 13 cases confirmed. Over the border in the next administrative area it's 2 deaths, 27 cases. The big concern for us as an area is that the West Mids conurbation is struggling a bit - Wolverhampton, Dudley, Birmingham, Black Country, Sandwell, Walsall etc. All of them are outside my district but all our trains run to/from those places.

Birmingham is 2nd city, with 2nd highest population (1million ish) so it's not surprising but more concerning are the numbers in Wolves which is our closest city.

But we're staying away. Walking today was a bit like when you're playing pokemon and you need a pokemon centre...and you're trying to avoid trainers by ducking out of their way. Every time we saw another person it was like, evasion tactics! But weirdly as everyone was avoiding each other, everyone was saying GOOD MORNING to each other. Which is not something I normally experience. But this is Britain, I wouldn't put it past being a passive aggressive greeting that secretly means 'stay away' - just like 'sorry' generally means 'not sorry because it was your fault, but I'm just polite'.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on March 26, 2020, 05:13:50 PM
Without being too political about it, may I just record my extreme disgust that the UK Govt is putting Brexit ahead of the lives of citizens by refusing to join the EU's scheme to make more medical equipment/ventilators etc available. This surely is NOT the time to be drawing borders when everyone is fighting the same battle, and every little helps.

Surely ideologies can be put aside until this business is done with, because people's lives are way more important.

I feel I can't say anything without being political because whichever info, facts or updates I choose to mention now could be seen as politically loaded.  Objectively their actions are based on a cost/benefit analysis where the lives of everyday people are not important. They have said so plainly. I also have to say that many original brexiteers are Tories with private health insurance and won't be short of a ventilator. However it was working class Tories form Northern ex-industrial towns who apparently tipped te balance in the last election. I bet none of them have private medical insurance and I wonder what they are thinking now. Dyson is a crony. And yes it does seem a bit passive-agressive, like saying "I've seen you, don't get in my way" or defensive as in "I'm actively avoiding you, but I'm not scared". Or something IDK. The atmosphere here is horrible anyway. Except when everyone clapped the NHS this evening, or should I say they cried tears of remorse because they've known the NHS is being run down for the last 15 years but looked the other way. I'm sorry, it's so hard to keep this non-political now. It's not the nature of the disease that's news any more, we've had sweeping changes to law thrust through Parliament in the last two days and so many things are changing.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 26, 2020, 05:37:59 PM
UK govt have promised (we'll see) to pay 80% of salaries of businesses that apply to them for help over this so they won't have to lay off staff and today made some similar provision for self-employed people (albeit it sounds complex as heck and still requires applying for UC I think in the short term as it won't actually pay out till June...)

Does the US's new stimulus package not do something similar for workers so they can stay in their jobs even if they're not able to work (rather than filing for unemployment)?

Trump is not the clearest at explaining anything but that was kind of what it sounded like he thought it was.

I'm not sure the senate bill will be any clearer but this is apparently what the senate passed.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6819239-FINAL-FINAL-CARES-ACT.html (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6819239-FINAL-FINAL-CARES-ACT.html)



Post Merge: March 26, 2020, 05:48:24 PM

I think this article might explain better what is exactly in the bill

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/26/821457551/whats-inside-the-senate-s-2-trillion-coronavirus-aid-package (https://www.npr.org/2020/03/26/821457551/whats-inside-the-senate-s-2-trillion-coronavirus-aid-package)
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Barnacle_lady on March 27, 2020, 03:06:18 AM
Up here there was some confusion about the latest press conference. It basically said all events, groupings etc with no minimum are off until June 1st. But is made clear later that this doesn't apply (yet ) for the restaurants, gyms , schools and weddings. Thats until April 6 but coming Tuesday it will be clear if its going to be extended.
And "social distance" is getting popular, every one should be staying 1,5 m from each other. But families are allowed to be together. If someone violates by grouping too much they will be fined.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 27, 2020, 05:28:33 AM


Post Merge: March 26, 2020, 05:48:24 PM

I think this article might explain better what is exactly in the bill

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/26/821457551/whats-inside-the-senate-s-2-trillion-coronavirus-aid-package (https://www.npr.org/2020/03/26/821457551/whats-inside-the-senate-s-2-trillion-coronavirus-aid-package)

and to add to that:

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Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Beth3346 on March 27, 2020, 05:54:13 AM
I don't know if its because 2000 billion dollars is such an astronomical amount of money but the tiny portion that's going to keep people fed looks depressing. It's so depressing that in a country with so much children starve if they can't go to school.

And yeah it's getting impossible to talk about this without getting political. The response to coronavirus is ultimately decided by political leaders.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 27, 2020, 06:04:51 AM
Ottawa KS (east of me) has a big problem:
https://www.ottawaherald.com/news/20200326/american-eagle-employee-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-marking-franklin-countys-second-confirmed-case?fbclid=IwAR2SVaIe_BNd8TfH35tsUmhDnFTlp8T1xnTSSa77KtsehgDH3pkcCOvRf6Q

I hope there's no one who works there who lives in my town.

But it get's worse. The M&M/Mars plant in Topeka got shut down due to a positive case. Someone I work with has a roommate who works there.  -_-
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 27, 2020, 06:45:56 AM
The numbers are really ramping up here in Washington state . . . from 2580 on March 25th to 3207 on March 26th.  627 new confirmed cases.  Shoutout to the health care workers!

Looking at the kind and generous acts that people are doing to help their neighbor does help mentally.  Something like this brings out the worst in some people, but the best in others. 
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 27, 2020, 08:16:35 AM
The cases in my area are jumping up by at least 5 cases a day. I expect it to increase rapidly though once test results are confirmed. We had 2 cases connected to nursing home workers.

Where I live the schools and food bank are still providing lunch and breakfast for  anyone under the age of 18 for free even though school is closed.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 27, 2020, 08:33:28 AM
Welp. The first case reported in my county. Don't know where in the county the person lived.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 27, 2020, 09:03:30 AM
Ottawa KS (east of me) has a big problem:
https://www.ottawaherald.com/news/20200326/american-eagle-employee-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-marking-franklin-countys-second-confirmed-case?fbclid=IwAR2SVaIe_BNd8TfH35tsUmhDnFTlp8T1xnTSSa77KtsehgDH3pkcCOvRf6Q

I hope there's no one who works there who lives in my town.


You need to presume it's in your town already. Remember, there can be up to a 2 week lag for symptoms to start-- and even then a lag in testing results-- and most cases don't get reported because they are mild. (And mild could mean anything that from non symptomatic to just short of needing hospitalized). Also, sometimes smaller health depts might not report right away because people could be going to a place with a larger hospital to get tested.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 27, 2020, 11:22:35 AM
I'm not sure if this belongs in this thread or the other one but this made me smile despite not being a big Baby Shark fan.  The Baby Shark song has been rewritten to encourage kids to wash their hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L89nN03pBzI
 

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 27, 2020, 11:54:29 AM
I'm not sure if this belongs in this thread or the other one but this made me smile despite not being a big Baby Shark fan.  The Baby Shark song has been rewritten to encourage kids to wash their hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L89nN03pBzI
 

Ponyfan

ahhhhhhhhh!!! Run's away, it's a EAR WORM! LOL!!!!!
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 27, 2020, 11:58:41 AM
I'm not sure if this belongs in this thread or the other one but this made me smile despite not being a big Baby Shark fan.  The Baby Shark song has been rewritten to encourage kids to wash their hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L89nN03pBzI
 

Ponyfan
Cough into your elbow, doo doo doo doo doo...
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 27, 2020, 01:43:10 PM
My state is up to 202 now with over 3,000 negative tests, and a 4th death in the KC area.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 27, 2020, 01:53:40 PM
6 confirmed cases connected to the nursing home with another 3 waiting for test results.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: toyjunky on March 27, 2020, 02:31:22 PM
Southern California (Orange County area)

State:4,598 cases/93 deaths
County: 321 cases/3 deaths
City: 28 cases

As in many other places all non-essential businesses are closed, but the other essential businesses are still open. I have seen some long lines in the drive through lanes of some of the local restaurants including the Starbucks down the street (they have a tendency to back up the right turn lane because of where the entrance is).

Beaches and parks have closed their parking lots and many trails are now closed (this varies slightly on what area and type of park). Some parks still have their trails open for horses and residents on foot but are discouraging people outside the community by blocking off the parking lots.

What has changed in the last 24 hours:
Orange County finally has released the city by city counts for the cases. (other counties around us have already been releasing this info). Which is good to know, not going to change anything I'm doing per say but good to know. Particularly so I can use it to make a point to my dad (72 and has health issues) on why he needs to stay home.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on March 27, 2020, 03:48:41 PM
Florida is nearly at 3000 cases. Almost 500 people are hospitalized and there's been 34 deaths.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on March 27, 2020, 04:07:58 PM
Utah is at 480 confirmed cases and had our 2nd death.  This time it was a woman, not yet 60, who had underlying health conditions.  The Utah governor has issued a "Stay Safe Stay Home" directive, emphasizing social distancing and not going out just to go out but it's not a firm shelter in place kind of order just yet.  The library where I work is cancelling the pick up service and will now mail out the books people want, so I'll still get to work but I might actually get some of my projects done.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 27, 2020, 04:16:20 PM
Our PM has Coronavirus. So does the Secretary of State for Health. And, possibly, the Chief Medical Officer. I am not sure if this indicates negligence or that they're putting themselves on the front line.

NICE guidelines got questioned by NAS (National Autistic Society) as they seemed to indicate disadvantage for any patients taken to hospital with autism, which gave me a minor heart attack - but NICE have clarified it now so (breathes deeply).

Some great stuff on Channel 4 tonight about a village in Scotland taking things into their own hands to deal with the problem, getting supplies from local companies and setting up a sign-in-window communication system (green tick = ok, red cross = not okay) with a local patrol constantly checking and alerting where help is needed.

In more local news, one more death over the district border into the county proper. In terms of my particular authority, 17 cases (+5) and still 2 confirmed deaths.

Our proper shopping order came this morning bang on time with almost everything we ordered exactly as ordered plus an extra loaf of bread which we cannot of course give back because h&s and distancing so we have extra bread all of a sudden.

The light has died in our bathroom, and of course nobody is coming to fix it any time soon.


Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Mareacooda on March 27, 2020, 04:35:58 PM
My state now 168 case 1 death... couple counties like mine no cases...
Talk complete shut not allow non residents in the state ..  Rumors claim non residents flocking in try excape virus...
 

Most cases States

1. New York 37877
2. New Jersey 5398
3. California 3899
4. Washington 3138
5. Michigan 2838

Most Cases by City

1. New York City 21873
2. Westchester 5944
3. Nassau 3914
4. King 1577
5. Los Angeles 1229


Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 27, 2020, 05:16:54 PM
John Hopkins has a great interactive map for the whole world.
You can click on the fields and even zoom in on the map, etc.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html)
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 27, 2020, 05:39:48 PM
This is also a good resource where you can click on states and see county break downs:
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

It also has charts and graphs.

Maybe next time this weekly thread is made, this link and https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html can be in the first post as a resource?
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 27, 2020, 07:11:49 PM
50 cases so far in my region, 31 of those are in my county.  8 cases are directly connected to a nursing home.  Only 5 people have been hospitalized so far.

My uncle that I mentioned a few days ago has died.  I still don't know if it was from the virus or another cause.

My dad had to go to the hardware store today to get a part.  He had to stand for 30 minutes outside the store before he could get in and said the store was enforcing social distancing even in the check out lanes.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Gator on March 27, 2020, 07:56:44 PM
Georgia now past 2000 cases and 65 deaths.  My county now seven cases and first death.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on March 27, 2020, 07:58:00 PM
My uncle that I mentioned a few days ago has died.  I still don't know if it was from the virus or another cause.

I'm so sorry :(
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponybookworm on March 27, 2020, 09:34:26 PM
My uncle that I mentioned a few days ago has died.  I still don't know if it was from the virus or another cause.

I'm so sorry :(
:sad: :sad: :sad: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Koudoawaia on March 27, 2020, 10:02:16 PM
Oh Ponyfan..I am so sorry
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 27, 2020, 10:32:17 PM
I'm so sorry, Ponyfan. :(
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 28, 2020, 01:03:39 AM
:hug: Ponyfan, I am so sorry.

On the subject of links in the first post of new covid threads it would be more helpful to include global information and not just that pertaining to the US. Remember we are all dealing with it...CDC guidelines alone is also limited given many badly affected places are nit subject to CDC.

County maps of the US and nothing for other countries defeats the object of this as a global thread.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Barnacle_lady on March 28, 2020, 03:46:30 AM
Hugs from me Ponyfan.

Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 28, 2020, 04:34:03 AM
County maps of the US and nothing for other countries defeats the object of this as a global thread.

USA has states. And within states are counties. I watch world wide, but sometimes certain information that shows all countries shows the map of the US as one solid thing-- instead of showing where hot spots are.

Also, the link I provided also shows trajectories and graphs of comparing different countries. It's not completely US-centric. Just the map part is.

I'd happily look at interactive maps of other countries. I'm just a visual person.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 28, 2020, 05:22:07 AM
And if you want to look at it like that, the UK is four nations, and within those are also counties. And it's possible to get the stats for each nation and for each of the counties within them just as easily - in fact, I posted such a link from PHE some pages back of the situation as it was known on 19th March here in the UK. 
 I can only speak for the UK but there are already several maps showing distribution of the disease here county by county and each nation releases its own figures. I have seen ones for Italy as well which show similar mapping and statistics. I expect they are available for France, Spain, Germany...probably also Japan, Australia, New Zealand and many other places. And these of course also change on a daily (even hourly) basis.

This thread already cites only CDC guidelines, which may not be transferrable to other countries in Europe, Asia, etc. US government directives are also irrelevant in places outside of the US and it's important that all members are kept abreast of what their own countries are enforcing at any one time. It's great having the WHO information, and I think that the future threads should stay on that trajectory and avoid specific regional intel because it may not be transferable.

If mapping needs to go in the main post, it should be global. Because this is global and we are global.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 28, 2020, 06:10:37 AM
Iirc, this is a thread where we are reporting some stuff happening to us. It seemed silly to just post the interactive map of ohio from my local site.

As I said, I'm a visual person so when someone tells their area and gives numbers-- it helps me to just SEE it. So I would love to see people post interactive maps of their areas.

A lot of people here talking about their states-- and every state is so individual right now. They almost feel like mini countries... So just talking about the USA as a whole seems so wrong to me right now.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 28, 2020, 06:23:07 AM
Oh, of course people should post stuff in the thread about their regions, I didn't mean otherwise. I just meant that regional information shouldn't go in the initial post of the thread, it should be part of the discussion throughout as people share their regional intel.

Sorry if that wasn't clear. As it is we only have CDC guidelines in the main post and that bothers me since they don't apply here and probably don't apply anywhere else than the US. So I feel like regional stuff should be discussed in the thread but the main post should stick to global WHO stuffs. Just to save on confusion.

And as I said before, the UK is four nations, not one, each of which has devolved administrations and all of which are experiencing this differently. But that's something individual collectors in each of the nations/regions can shade in in posts as well.

For example CNN only seems to think London exists in the UK, and only reports on stuff in London - but what is happening in London is not the same as what is happening in, say, Northumbria or Powys or Lothian. Just like the BBC is mostly reporting on New York and California, but clearly that's not all of the US story, either.

There seems a misconception that because the US is a big country it's the only one being affected regionally, but that's absolutely not the case and if you look at a map of Italy's cases, you can see the same thing is true there as well.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 28, 2020, 06:32:43 AM
There seems a misconception that because the US is a big country it's the only one being affected regionally, but that's absolutely not the case and if you look at a map of Italy's cases, you can see the same thing is true there as well.

:) And that's why I like the interactive maps that show a bit more breakdown. I'm happy to see it for all countries, because I might not be familiar with other places.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 28, 2020, 08:53:05 AM
I think most of the maps are going to show the same thing, most of them are probably getting their data from 'governments' or directly from hospitals.

Any of them you have to take with a grain of salt as the numbers probably aren't directly up to date by the minute.

John Hopkins is a well know medical and research university/hospital, so  I like that they're map shows the whole world. Plus I like that they're graphs also have a field that show how many people have recovered.

Post Merge: March 28, 2020, 09:07:34 AM

I'm also going to make an assumption that each state like mine has it's own interactive map. If you're looking for your personal state, probably look at your states department of health. At least that is where my state (Virginia) has their map located.

If you can't find it just google search and type "(Your State) coronavirus map". That is how I found mine, etc.

I just did a search for Georgia and this came up

https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report (https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report)

and then Florida

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429 (https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429)

Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 28, 2020, 09:08:35 AM
Yeah, they are all pulling from the same sources. :) And yes, some numbers can lag based on who gets tested or where they get tested. Some private labs can be 1 week behind.

The one I mentioned sources the JHU data and puts it into a trend growth rate. Unless I'm blind, I don't necessarily see that on the JHU map?
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on March 28, 2020, 09:26:47 AM
Yeah, they are all pulling from the same sources. :) And yes, some numbers can lag based on who gets tested or where they get tested. Some private labs can be 1 week behind.

The one I mentioned sources the JHU data and puts it into a trend growth rate. Unless I'm blind, I don't necessarily see that on the JHU map?

I really have no clue on the 'trend growth rate' and I'm not interested in discussing which graph is better than the other. I'm not a statistical scientist and I don't play one online. All the numbers are really going to do is make a lot of people stress out and buy more toilet paper. I can't really affect the numbers it's like watching a big thunderstorm roll in, you can't really affect it other than try to protect yourself and your family.

But no matter how much you try to protect yourself lightning can still kill you and if the lightning doesn't get you the tornado can. You can do everything right in your life, but something out of the blue can strike you dead. I just sorta look at um, click on the features and then move on. It's up to everyone else what you do with what you're looking at. To me it's just a way to worry about it more than I need to as the virus is here and you just have to do your best to try to avoid it, etc. Looking at the numbers ain't going to affect anything other than our own psyche.

Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 28, 2020, 09:49:52 AM
Yeah, they are all pulling from the same sources. :) And yes, some numbers can lag based on who gets tested or where they get tested. Some private labs can be 1 week behind.

The one I mentioned sources the JHU data and puts it into a trend growth rate. Unless I'm blind, I don't necessarily see that on the JHU map?

I really have no clue on the 'trend growth rate' and I'm not interested in discussing which graph is better than the other. I'm not a statistical scientist and I don't play one online. All the numbers are really going to do is make a lot of people stress out and buy more toilet paper. I can't really affect the numbers it's like watching a big thunderstorm roll in, you can't really affect it other than try to protect yourself and your family.

But no matter how much you try to protect yourself lightning can still kill you and if the lightning doesn't get you the tornado can. You can do everything right in your life, but something out of the blue can strike you dead. I just sorta look at um, click on the features and then move on. It's up to everyone else what you do with what you're looking at. To me it's just a way to worry about it more than I need to as the virus is here and you just have to do your best to try to avoid it, etc. Looking at the numbers ain't going to affect anything other than our own psyche.



I don't think one is better then the other???? :( It's just viewing the data in a different way.

All the growth chart shows is how many cases are reported each day. So one area could be 20%, and another area could be 29%. I just find it interesting, that's all. I guess other people don't.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 28, 2020, 11:44:10 AM
Thank you everyone. :hug: My uncle is the first person that I've been connected to that has died probably due to the coronavirus.  I'm not sure if the test results came back positive or not.

I had to go to the store today. There are still a lot of empty shelves but some things are being restocked and stores are enforcing limits on high demand items. The grocery store has also put a plastic shield between the customer and the cashier.

Some stores are starting to put stickers like this or tape on the floor to mark 6ft for checkout lanes.


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Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on March 28, 2020, 12:44:24 PM
I'm so sorry Ponyfan. :( :hug:
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 28, 2020, 01:21:46 PM
Now the entire state of Kansas is under lockdown. We're at 261 cases now. 133 of which (including the 4 deaths) were in the 2 counties of the Kansas City metro area. However the statewide one is only 2 weeks, while many of the individual ones are 30 days. The local ones will go back into effect after the end of the state one.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Taffeta on March 28, 2020, 01:27:02 PM
There seems a misconception that because the US is a big country it's the only one being affected regionally, but that's absolutely not the case and if you look at a map of Italy's cases, you can see the same thing is true there as well.

:) And that's why I like the interactive maps that show a bit more breakdown. I'm happy to see it for all countries, because I might not be familiar with other places.

Well, here is the most recent for the UK, if you're curious ;)

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/3B66/production/_111460251_uk_la_mp28mar-nc.png

What some people have been calling for here is an equally transparent report on how many people have been discharged/recovered as we know that is happening too but never get the numbers. Media makes much too much about the figures as well because the more you test the higher the numbers. The best practice IMO is to just do everything you can to stay safe, follow your country's guidelines as they are specific to your situation, and try not to get too bogged down in data. In the US that might boil down to your state, since there doesn't seem to be a national American policy common to all states at present like there is in other countries (for example here the formal shutdown last Monday was collectively taken by England and the devolved admins in Wales, NI and Scotland, although Wales were testing NHS staff earlier and Scotland shut schools more quickly).

In our region we now have I think eight deaths but that's apparently a combined total between us and the neighbouring region because the hospitals are run by the same trust and nobody seems keen to identify which is which, so yeah. That to me is more directly relevant information but even that can be outdated. The first death in our are was reported a week after it happened, and so must have been tested belatedly for covid so who knows if that was the ultimate cause of death.

And some of those in today;s figures were apparently from much earlier in March as well, which suggest similar things happening.

I am more reassured by the fact our science people are not currently panicking about our numbers and the NHS is not reporting that we're at capacity. Also that most people are following the rules.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Thimble on March 28, 2020, 02:58:40 PM
Well, folks, they announced 58 cases in care facility less than 40 miles from my town.
I can see the writing on the wall. It's just like I was worried about, cherry blossom season/spring break may have been the end of Japan's weird grace period. I really hope they can get a grip on it now, but it's probably too late. There's no telling how far it's spread until people who got infected last week start getting sick.
And at last update, I still go back to work on the 2nd.There's a few more days, so who knows, maybe someone will get a clue and put a hold on it. All I can do is hope for the best.
 On a lighter note, it's supposed to snow today! First time all winter, lol.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 28, 2020, 03:03:38 PM
There seems a misconception that because the US is a big country it's the only one being affected regionally, but that's absolutely not the case and if you look at a map of Italy's cases, you can see the same thing is true there as well.

:) And that's why I like the interactive maps that show a bit more breakdown. I'm happy to see it for all countries, because I might not be familiar with other places.

Well, here is the most recent for the UK, if you're curious ;)

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/3B66/production/_111460251_uk_la_mp28mar-nc.png

--snip--

I am more reassured by the fact our science people are not currently panicking about our numbers and the NHS is not reporting that we're at capacity. Also that most people are following the rules.

Thanks, I do appreciate it.

There's no use for anyone to panic. That doesn't help anything, for sure. scientists or just the average person. It's certainly natural to worry, and that's ok.

Locally, just riding it out... been raining all day. I don't think anything will change in my life for awhile. I'm dreading going into the hospital in a couple weeks, but that's about it.

I don't remember if I read it here or not, but I'm regrowing some green onions. :D I'm very excited about this. Gonna make some green onion pancakes when they are ready.

Our local hospitals are actively building out temporary hospitals from dorm rooms / hotels / etc to take care of sick people. They are estimating (and any estimation can only be made on current data and changes daily) that our peak time might be mid-may. This comes from research from our hospitals. They are ramping up for the worst, and hoping for the best.

And there's an ohio based company trying to get approval from the FDA on a process that can sterilize face masks.  . This is now approved despite FDA trying to stick to normal regulations. :) NYC should have one by now, and the company is sending out to other states immediately.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on March 28, 2020, 04:33:53 PM
I have spent the last 4 days coming to terms with the facts and coming up with a plan for the next three weeks. I won't be following epidemiology reports any more, I'm just assuming the virus is everywhere. I initially made plan A (stay at the flat on my own) and plan B (divide my time up between flat and Husband's house). I am now sticking to plan A after a very difficult convo with Husband. He is an essential food supply chain worker and he doesn't want to give the virus to me as he's much more likely to get it via work. So I'm staying back at my flat for now, alone, and trying not to go out to the shop too often becasue of the risk and the amount of hassle now involved. I went out for shopping in mask and gloves a couple times in the first week but otherwise I've been physically isolated for 3 weeks and isolated from Husband for 1 week.

The advice/legislation is to try to reduce the pressure on the NHS over the next few weeks, so we are doing our bit. The plan is that if one of us gets very ill with the virus then the other one will go over and look after them, so we are trying to make sure we don't both get very ill at the same time especially during the peak.  I don't know whether if we can look after each other one at a time like this it will make a trip to the hospital any less likely but we have to try. I realise how lucky we are to have the option to stay separate but at the same time it's devastating because we are so attached to each other. I've waited so long to find my special somepony and now afer just six months of marriage we are faced with potentially months of separation. Anyway, I feel less anxious now that I have a plan and am sticking to it. This is already the longest we have ever been apart.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Mareacooda on March 28, 2020, 04:56:13 PM
SATURDAY, MARCH 28

The Maine CDC now says there are 211 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Maine,

Counties.  Confirmed        Recovered         Deaths

Androscoggin        7                   3                     0
Cumberland         120               19                    1
Franklin                 2                   0                     0
Kennebec              9                   2                     0
Knox                      2                    0                     0
Lincoln                  5                    2                     0

5 counties  other.  0 across board


Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: BlackCurtains on March 28, 2020, 04:58:08 PM
The info I follow for Florida is from the Department of Health. I linked to it in the other thread but here it is again - https://fdoh.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/8d0de33f260d444c852a615dc7837c86

Over 4000 cases today. The number of confirmed cases jumped to 16 in my county. They stopped putting up the number of infected non-residents though... I think that info is important? These are people that are free to leave the state (since our Governor actively refuses to enact a stay-at-home order) and return home depending on where they came from. So I think tracking them should be a thing. Maybe they just removed the info available to the average person.

The testing site that opened yesterday in Sarasota is closing after today because not enough people are using it and they want the resources to go elsewhere. So does that mean people in Sarasota aren't sick? Or does that mean they have symptoms but aren't going to the doctor? Orrrrrrr there are enough rich people in Sarasota that they are having private testing done? Your guess is as good as mine!
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 28, 2020, 08:12:35 PM
Now we're up to 299 and 6 deaths in Kansas.

And Mark Blum has died from complications caused by the virus:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/crocodile-dundee-star-mark-blum-175901084.html
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 29, 2020, 06:46:26 AM
I'm so sorry Ponyfan. :( :hug:


Thank you. :hug:


We jumped to 41 cases in my country. 13 of these are all related to the nursing home. Also my county has had the first death from coronavirus (not my uncle. He lived in a different state.)


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: MerryAnvil on March 29, 2020, 08:17:59 AM
[Article Here] (https://kfor.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-deaths-rise-to-15-positive-cases-climb-to-377/)

Oklahoma now has 377 cases and 15 deaths. My county has 12 cases and our mayor is finally putting in an enforcable shelter in place order, likely to be effective Tuesday. Our governor is planning to isolate two hospitals in the state to deal with the Covid-19 cases in order to save on resources.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Gator on March 29, 2020, 10:25:33 AM
I'm not trying to fear monger, but a news report at lunch today said it's possible for the USA to see 200,000 deaths. 
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: banditpony on March 29, 2020, 12:50:52 PM
I'm not trying to fear monger, but a news report at lunch today said it's possible for the USA to see 200,000 deaths. 

deaths are going to happen either way -- I take a grain of salt to any sort of numbers, because really no one knows. All the experts are doing their best based on numbers that roll in. 200,000 sounds low if the USA has like 300+million people. That could create a false sense of security.

The most important thing is we don't want our hospital systems overloaded so there aren't deaths that could of been prevented. And not just people who might die from covid19, but people who might die because there's lack of resources and someone goes in for something completely unrelated (heart attack, car accident, etc). We don't want them picking and choosing lives, and those outlines are already in place at some hospitals...

That effects everyone -- everywhere, period. That's why I hate news stories like that. u_u; It doesn't help the public.

;) Oh and i know I'm preaching to the choir. Everyone here sounds responsible. I just hate the news.

Oh on a personal note, I'm happy that my mom only has to go in the hospital 1 day a week for exams -- and she can remotely do visits with the rest of her patients. I'm happy for her patients too. same goes for the doctors she works with, they are all rotating.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: lonewolf on March 29, 2020, 01:13:04 PM
Kansas is now up to 319. And we have the first quarantine order. Chase county (SW of Emporia) has no cases, but have started a 14 day quarantine on anyone coming from hotbed areas like the KC metro area. Cops will be checking everyone who comes into the county, and if you're from one of those areas you'll be forced to quarantine.
 And country singer Joe Diffie has died from it.
Title: Re: Week of Mar 21: COVID-19 info, facts & updates
Post by: Ponyfan on March 29, 2020, 01:36:00 PM
I missed the first part of the governor's press conference but I did catch that he is issuing mandatory quarantine for people entering the state from Louisiana, California  and NY. The Louisiana quarantine also includes coming in by road.

Also, cases in my country jumped another 10 cases. My city extended the stay at home order and no social gatherings of any number are allowed.

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