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Title: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: relcelestia on November 19, 2018, 11:45:50 AM
Hi All! Long time no see :-)
so on a whim I decided to look up Argentina ponies sold auctions on eBay… Totally shocked!! So many of them are $300 $400 $500 and even over $600!  :shocked: :shocked: :blink:
Needless to say I haven’t been on the pony scene in a minute… Can y’all update me as to how this trend happened?
Besos!
EDIT for examples:
$135 for baby CC (pink with white hair)
$120 for baby CC (pink with green/white hair)
$400 for glory with red hair
$300 for green helados
$400 for felicidades
$90 for CC
$500 for LS pink with purple hair CP
$110 for baby MD white with green hair
$500 & $310 for novia
$350 for minty
$670 for hearthhrob (pink with white hair )
$181 for purple disco
$125 baby gusty

none of these are in great condition either!!! Whats up with this?!
 Just as a comparison you can click on the link in my signature to see what prices were about five years ago
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: pinkkittywinks on November 19, 2018, 12:51:10 PM
Rel!!! Welcome back :hug:

Lack of supply and increased demand imho, as well as new people joining the community.

Prices have gone bananas, it's not just eBay or here now for buying and selling, there is a wide market on Facebook and Instagram, both of which have there own price idiosyncrasies  :blink:

I'm finding it really hard to keep up to dates with prices myself and price checking is quite difficult due to huge fluctuations  -_-

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 19, 2018, 05:35:27 PM
Holy cow.   :shocked:
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: relcelestia on November 19, 2018, 10:40:33 PM
Rel!!! Welcome back :hug:

Lack of supply and increased demand imho, as well as new people joining the community.

Prices have gone bananas, it's not just eBay or here now for buying and selling, there is a wide market on Facebook and Instagram, both of which have there own price idiosyncrasies  :blink:

I'm finding it really hard to keep up to dates with prices myself and price checking is quite difficult due to huge fluctuations  -_-

Love pkw xxx
Thanks lady!! ^_^
 When you say prices are going bananas, do you mean across-the-board for all ponies? Or just nirvana? Or just Argentina?
 People sell Argentina ponies on Instagram?!
 I need to start following whoever they are 😆

Post Merge: November 19, 2018, 10:41:15 PM

Holy cow.   :shocked:
Right?!
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: pinkkittywinks on November 20, 2018, 08:08:10 AM
Rel!!! Welcome back :hug:

Lack of supply and increased demand imho, as well as new people joining the community.

Prices have gone bananas, it's not just eBay or here now for buying and selling, there is a wide market on Facebook and Instagram, both of which have there own price idiosyncrasies  :blink:

I'm finding it really hard to keep up to dates with prices myself and price checking is quite difficult due to huge fluctuations  -_-

Love pkw xxx
Thanks lady!! ^_^
 When you say prices are going bananas, do you mean across-the-board for all ponies? Or just nirvana? Or just Argentina?
 People sell Argentina ponies on Instagram?!
 I need to start following whoever they are 😆

I mostly deal with nirvana and that is were I have noticed it most. I do think other pony prices have been going bananas though, some have rocketed in value.

Yes! There are Argie collectors in Argentina on Instagram (and Facebook too). On Instagram, try searching  the Argie names for the sets/ponies in the hashtags ;)

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: Galactica on November 20, 2018, 08:39:56 AM
How odd-  I guess it only takes a small handful of people who want the same thing to drive prices up.

I wonder if it is because it is much harder to buy through Mercadolivre/mercadolibre these days. (it used to be just a little challenging but now it is impossible unless you have a local address to register with)
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: kellyponyfeathers on November 20, 2018, 12:19:13 PM
I'm pretty sure there are a few new collectors in South America with deep pockets. I'll wait for prices to stabilize.
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: Alirka on December 11, 2018, 09:04:02 AM
Im an Argentina collector and also a seller, have quite a few recurring customers and customers who buy throughout the year to have everything shipped before xmas.. I too was amazed at those prices, Ive never charged over 200 for an argie, maybe cause im picky and every single flaw make me lower the prices when I sell... so I would only sell really rare ones at high prices, none on that list are... what better example than baby cotton candy who should have fading pink hair, so in that listing you mentioned it has discolored hair and it went over 130.. i sold one with almost all of its hair still retaining its original pink for 50-60 a few weeks ago... which i consider the going price for one of the most common argie babies...
I feel like some people showed up recently in the community and everybody just went nuts about argies.. also most of those auctions have been won by the same person who seems really invested in having every single argie that pops up and leave nothing for the rest.
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: farfallinaki on December 11, 2018, 10:48:24 PM
Im an Argentina collector and also a seller, have quite a few recurring customers and customers who buy throughout the year to have everything shipped before xmas.. I too was amazed at those prices, Ive never charged over 200 for an argie, maybe cause im picky and every single flaw make me lower the prices when I sell... so I would only sell really rare ones at high prices, none on that list are... what better example than baby cotton candy who should have fading pink hair, so in that listing you mentioned it has discolored hair and it went over 130.. i sold one with almost all of its hair still retaining its original pink for 50-60 a few weeks ago... which i consider the going price for one of the most common argie babies...
I feel like some people showed up recently in the community and everybody just went nuts about argies.. also most of those auctions have been won by the same person who seems really invested in having every single argie that pops up and leave nothing for the rest.


I agree exactly with what you said at your last lines..Almost all these auctions were won by the same person who buys every single argie-even if it has to raise his/her bids super high!-and other collectors can't have even one.. Sorry for that, but it seems very selfish to me..  :|
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on December 11, 2018, 11:15:37 PM
If they are a new collector eventually they will probably want to upgrade which will maybe benefit someone wanting to sell. Do you remember when someone turned up and started paying a lot of money to complete thier sticker collection? I guess this is like that... just wait for it to blow over.
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: Alirka on December 12, 2018, 03:30:35 AM
Im an Argentina collector and also a seller, have quite a few recurring customers and customers who buy throughout the year to have everything shipped before xmas.. I too was amazed at those prices, Ive never charged over 200 for an argie, maybe cause im picky and every single flaw make me lower the prices when I sell... so I would only sell really rare ones at high prices, none on that list are... what better example than baby cotton candy who should have fading pink hair, so in that listing you mentioned it has discolored hair and it went over 130.. i sold one with almost all of its hair still retaining its original pink for 50-60 a few weeks ago... which i consider the going price for one of the most common argie babies...
I feel like some people showed up recently in the community and everybody just went nuts about argies.. also most of those auctions have been won by the same person who seems really invested in having every single argie that pops up and leave nothing for the rest.


I agree exactly with what you said at your last lines..Almost all these auctions were won by the same person who buys every single argie-even if it has to raise his/her bids super high!-and other collectors can't have even one.. Sorry for that, but it seems very selfish to me..  :|

My thoughts exactly, I imagine if I would have kept every single argie that came to me for the past 11 years.... I find joy in helping other collectors get something they really want, same reason why I dont sell on Ebay, cause I wanna know who Im selling to, all my customers are gr8 people and became dear friends and I know they cherish every pony I send their way. Hoarding is indeed being selfish..I feel sorry for the person who has the need to own everything so nobody else has the chance to have something they want.
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: wizzer218 on December 12, 2018, 08:07:58 PM
Im an Argentina collector and also a seller, have quite a few recurring customers and customers who buy throughout the year to have everything shipped before xmas.. I too was amazed at those prices, Ive never charged over 200 for an argie, maybe cause im picky and every single flaw make me lower the prices when I sell... so I would only sell really rare ones at high prices, none on that list are... what better example than baby cotton candy who should have fading pink hair, so in that listing you mentioned it has discolored hair and it went over 130.. i sold one with almost all of its hair still retaining its original pink for 50-60 a few weeks ago... which i consider the going price for one of the most common argie babies...
I feel like some people showed up recently in the community and everybody just went nuts about argies.. also most of those auctions have been won by the same person who seems really invested in having every single argie that pops up and leave nothing for the rest.


I agree exactly with what you said at your last lines..Almost all these auctions were won by the same person who buys every single argie-even if it has to raise his/her bids super high!-and other collectors can't have even one.. Sorry for that, but it seems very selfish to me..  :|

My thoughts exactly, I imagine if I would have kept every single argie that came to me for the past 11 years.... I find joy in helping other collectors get something they really want, same reason why I dont sell on Ebay, cause I wanna know who Im selling to, all my customers are gr8 people and became dear friends and I know they cherish every pony I send their way. Hoarding is indeed being selfish..I feel sorry for the person who has the need to own everything so nobody else has the chance to have something they want.

I have noticed this too....lots of same buyers...buying all of them...it's strange..lol
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on December 13, 2018, 09:10:47 AM
I was going to say as an outsider looking in, Argies are appealing to me because they seem like one of the most varied nirvana types...but if it's all one person? That's scummy.  :( Hopefully the prices will work themselves out, although if that person is trying to drive the market price up by sellling them at the same price they're buying them and making the market seem like that's the norm...
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: maycrestmom on December 13, 2018, 12:20:13 PM
nah I wasn't thinking it was all one person... honestly I don't find prices for argies insane for some of them that are really rare and sought after

yeah I thought $500 for a CP lickety was high but than  it's christmastime so I see a baby rainbow goes $160 on auction and then the BIN snags a $300 buyer - so maybe it is just the up and down of the season

argies IMO have always been  tough since condition varies so much sometimes

and don't even get me started about some of the oddballs that have been found

I do love the colores vivos :-) even though the price roller coaster can be frustrating
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: achab1984 on December 15, 2018, 09:27:45 PM
I also have to agree with the prices of some of those ponies! Sometimes it takes the fun out of collecting. Wonder what will happen with there prices in 5 years?
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: plushroo on December 15, 2018, 11:42:22 PM
I do hope the prices stabilize or go down soon. I have half a dozen argies and Brazil ponies missing from my collection, but can't bear to pay the prices they are demanding on ebay now.
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: mlp4me on January 09, 2019, 06:02:13 PM
Noticed this too on the FB Nirvana groups, dropped jaw then had to change to depends for the last few months...

::grumbles:: Takes the fun out of collecting when prices inflate like that. Baits, give me baits, please!!!
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: Broken Irishwoman on January 11, 2019, 10:24:42 AM
Oh wow, that's not good. :crazy: I'm not really into nirvanas, but there's a certain blue Baby Moondancer on my wishlist... I really like some of the Argentina babies.
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: maycrestmom on January 21, 2019, 07:10:27 AM
ok now I am officially on the - yeah crazy price - bandwagon after a baby sparkler sailed over a couple hundred not in great shape... (as I start to look over my buttons-crew and wonder if it is time to sell...)

I guess the good news is that there will now be more folks that will probably look to list and sell their argies if they aren't all just $10-$30ish MLP


dunno... seems there is definitely a bit of a roller coaster as to prices right now
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: farfallinaki on January 21, 2019, 10:00:16 PM
Bought from the same seller AGAIN.I was pretty sure he/she was gonna win this at huge price, as he won also many argies this week more than 10 i think!!
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: maycrestmom on January 22, 2019, 03:57:46 AM
yeah I guess I am showing my bias in I would just prefer they were a member here since there did seem to be another Minty variant in that last go round = although I believe here already knows we have argies in 2 lash vs. 3 lash and fat vs. thin clovers and 7 vs. 8 varieties.  So it's just sometimes a shame as to the history keeping part ( I so appreciate Taffeta and crew that have done a bang up job on all the archiving and puzzling so we know as much as we do here with the nirvana forums.  I think it is so freakin' awesome we have found we have newly found gusty variants and all those moondancer variants and even the stencil oddballs from Argentina fairly well figured out... so yeah from the MLP-history geek standpoint I hope this latest price roller-coaster won't last too long (IMO somebody got ahold of a paypal "world mastercard"  account and is having a bit too much fun with digits but I digress...) and all our sharing and archiving here in the nirvana forums can still have the goal accomplished :-) when a new variant is discovered "in the wild" like that latest princess sundance

just my two cents


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Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: Cvoysey93 on January 31, 2019, 12:33:11 AM
It’s the same buyer with most of them. The person bids extremely high on them which means a lot of other people can’t afford them. They also buy duplicates I’ve seen the same eBay name buy the same pony. It’s not fair to the rest of the collectors who just want to buy one and not pay stupid prices on them
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: Moonbreeze on January 31, 2019, 03:29:28 AM
Ow, ugh. That's really lame :\ I just bought a Moonjumper. She was $50 but needs new wings and a partial rehair. I've had cheaper wingers previously, but eh... this was my setcompleter!
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: farfallinaki on January 31, 2019, 10:28:22 PM
It’s the same buyer with most of them. The person bids extremely high on them which means a lot of other people can’t afford them. They also buy duplicates I’ve seen the same eBay name buy the same pony. It’s not fair to the rest of the collectors who just want to buy one and not pay stupid prices on them

I ve seen the person with the many duplicates that you say on facebook.. What can i say, i search different sites that sell ponies to be quick or lucky enough to buy before her..  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: Avasponies on February 03, 2019, 08:48:30 PM
Is this maybe starting to wind down? It seems like now people are just listing them at crazy BIN or starting prices, but they aren't necessarily selling? It's really disappointing because some of the Argies are super neat looking with their colors and I just got back into collecting so I'd love to have some! 15 years or so ago things weren't so global!!!
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: shelti on February 09, 2019, 02:56:55 PM
I am so Leary of investing into an Nirvana now days, too much going on as far as restorations and it not being brought forward and I am not just talking Argie.  I purchased a Spanish TAF sugarberry from a member and when I pulled her out of storage, well the hair is faded so I know it's dolly hair even though I was assured there was not restoration done.  Soured on Collecting anything now days.  Wow Rela, so glad to see you back! :yippee:
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on February 10, 2019, 06:08:01 AM
I am so Leary of investing into an Nirvana now days, too much going on as far as restorations and it not being brought forward and I am not just talking Argie.  I purchased a Spanish TAF sugarberry from a member and when I pulled her out of storage, well the hair is faded so I know it's dolly hair even though I was assured there was not restoration done.  Soured on Collecting anything now days.  Wow Rela, so glad to see you back! :yippee:

*sneaks in to give shelti a hug*  good to see you around!
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: shelti on February 10, 2019, 06:58:34 AM
lovesbabysquirmy right back at you :hug:  i am around  LOL, just in stealth mod usually.
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: relcelestia on April 13, 2019, 10:17:08 AM
I am so Leary of investing into an Nirvana now days, too much going on as far as restorations and it not being brought forward and I am not just talking Argie.  I purchased a Spanish TAF sugarberry from a member and when I pulled her out of storage, well the hair is faded so I know it's dolly hair even though I was assured there was not restoration done.  Soured on Collecting anything now days.  Wow Rela, so glad to see you back! :yippee:
Hi there!!!!! *hugs*
 You actually came up in conversation today on the Facebook nirvana page. I still have your rainbow MD. and theres one on ebay at the moment. We suspect shes a hybrid since there is white in her tail.
Do you remember where/how you obtained the one i have now?
💛
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: maycrestmom on April 15, 2019, 11:08:50 AM
dang i feel so outta the loop I don't do FB  - I would chime in to agree to a hybrid possibility and i have a MOC baby arco that has the moonie green hair head/tail swap so it makes sense depending on how all that was manufactured back in the day.  One thing positive I will say about prices is that I am tempted to part with some of my really good argies to then be able to buy MLP I am after since ya'll know how that whole sell to buy nirvana deal goes :-)

glad to see ya'll still hangin' around the arena Rel :-) and Shelti :-) (I feel like a youngin' with less than a decade under my belt)


Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: TornadoLovesMelody on April 18, 2019, 02:59:05 AM
(I feel like a youngin' with less than a decade under my belt)

You've been around long enough to count as a veteran imo :P Activity matters!
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: tikibirds on June 19, 2019, 03:06:21 AM
Back in the day, I got most of my argies for UNDER $50 and several were MOC !
Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: maycrestmom on June 19, 2019, 03:40:56 AM
ah the twentieth century, perhaps ? ;-) or even up until about 2005 or 6

man I think we all want that proverbial time machine when ebay was just coming around as a forum to trade these guys

heck I remember you had an alaska destination, tiki - cool to see ya have crossed the pacific :-)

yeah nirvana wallets can get ridiculously pinched depending on the MLP nowadays post FiM mania and all the re-discovery of vintage toys I know I start to twitch when the value pushes past my real-horse expensing

Title: Re: WHAT is going on with these crazy Argie prices?!
Post by: relcelestia on July 22, 2019, 07:27:28 AM
And another nutso price!!
$484 for yellow pegasus flutterbye?!  :shocked:
She was $45-70 in 2013
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