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Title: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Mami Tomoe on November 29, 2017, 09:31:51 AM
What makes you want to deflock a pony for me its flock rub that makes me want to
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on November 29, 2017, 09:33:39 AM
If the flock is stained or dirty, I'll de flock it.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Mlp Sunsparkle on November 29, 2017, 09:43:27 AM
I'd leave it how it is in almost every case, I'd only consider de flocking if there was a huge area where it's already rubbed off. It can be cleaned gently, and if there was a stain I'd try to sun fade it out or live with it if the flocking is still nice. So there would probably have to be more de flocked area than flocked to make me de flock one  :)
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on November 29, 2017, 10:00:46 AM
I've never deflocked before, but my Best Wishes and Hippity Hop I plan on deflocking eventually, because they're missing large chunks of flocking, so they'd look much better on display without it. I'm just waiting until I get other ones with better flocking so I can then have them flocked and deflocked! With ponies who just have missing flocking on the bottoms of feat, ear tips, etc, I can live with it. But these two are missing too much of it for them to look nice on display, so they'll be deflocked someday.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: LadyMoondancer on November 29, 2017, 10:02:06 AM
Dirty flocking with major rubs, especially when the flocking has that really matted down look.

I also got a Crumpet with, like, mildew in her fur once.  YEeeeah . . .
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 29, 2017, 11:08:12 AM
I would only deflock if severe flocking damage or mildew or w/e was present, and I would always plan on re-flocking
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 29, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
I'd only do it if her flocking was beyond saving. At this age, little rubs and bald patches are expected.

Post Merge: November 29, 2017, 01:36:18 PM

Dirty flocking with major rubs, especially when the flocking has that really matted down look.

I also got a Crumpet with, like, mildew in her fur once.  YEeeeah . . .


Ewww!  :crazy:
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Pierlala on November 29, 2017, 01:42:40 PM
I am not a fan of de-flocking. So softs are already more rare then regular ponies. If people keep doing this they will become more and more rare or even stop exsisting at all. People de-flock way too soon in my opinion. I prefer to leave ponies the wat they are.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: pinkkittywinks on November 30, 2017, 11:59:27 AM
Glue discolouration and/or bad rubs to the flocking.

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Taffeta on November 30, 2017, 12:07:52 PM
If the fur is seriously stained, damaged, rubbed in large patches, coming off...those are reasons for me to deflock. But I admit I am a bit hypocritical about this because I don't generally like the idea of deflocking ponies that have regular counterparts which, without fur, might look more or less identical. Especially Truly and Cupcake because they tend to have serious price differences between the regular and the SS version which makes deflocking potentially profitable for scammers :/ Fortunately the movie star set I think are mostly at least a bit different under the fur, although Buttons with the three large buttons and North Star and Gusty are problem candidates for deflocking and then getting muddled up with the regular versions. Magic Star and Wind Whistler are different enough and I think Shady is a different colour pink under her fur.

So I would sell rather than deflock any that had counterparts without flocking, if they were in bad condition. I would choose to deflock and keep any with wrecked flocking that didn't have a regular counterpart.

Deflocking is possibly the only form of customisation/restoration I;m ok with, but I get where Pierlala is coming from. I think maybe my childhood without SS ponies means I don't think too much about them as a set and their future rarity...which is bad, and I probably should. That said, I don't actually go out to deflock any ponies myself as my practical skills suck. So I have to find someone to do it for me, and that means the pony I am going to get deflocked has to be pretty desperate (so that deflocking is essentially saving her).
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on November 30, 2017, 06:57:33 PM
I ask the question: "Would the average collector be interested in keeping this pony permanently in their collection, or would it be replaced at the soonest opportunity?"

This considers the pony's rarity (Crumpets will be wanted even in poor shape over similar Hearthrobs or Buttons) and general condition.  The flocking has to be pretty far gone for me to consider a pony a deflock candidate.  Preferably they have other issues too that make them unlikely to ever find a place in someone's collection as they are.  Mangy, stained, missing patches all over, etc.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on December 01, 2017, 01:19:09 AM
Sometimes the flocking smells, so I de flock the pony.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: NightGliderSA on December 01, 2017, 01:26:36 AM
Every pony I buy is for my personal collection; I do not sell on. And if I do come across a better condition pony, I keep the first pony as well. I would deflock a pony if she was in really really bad condition and there was no other alternative. But then I would write underneath her hoof that she had been deflocked. And keep her. And there are certain ponies where I would actively look for one in such bad condition because I would like a deflocked version - such as Angel and Twilight, as they are so beautiful underneath. But I agree with what Taffeta says about deflocking ponies who already have regular counterparts.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Shaiyeh on December 01, 2017, 05:17:21 AM
Honestly, I probably wouldn't. I'd rather try to re-flock patches if possible, or just leave as is.
If she was covered it something gross like mildew, cat wee, poop or whatever I would proabbly get rid of the flocking, if it didn't clean out (or if cleaning destroyed it), but then again, I've only ever held a so soft in my hands once, so the chances of me finding a really bad condition one at say a thrift shop are pretty slim. (and hence, I'd buy a nice condition one at once.)
Personally not a fan of deflocking or altering G1s unless they really are beyond saving.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Mami Tomoe on December 01, 2017, 05:18:48 AM
For me i will not defrock a pony with a normal counterpart I won't defrock a pony with a variant that is exactly the same even though its from another country
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: LadyMoondancer on December 01, 2017, 09:28:47 AM
I've deflocked Cupcake, Magic Star, and Truly before.  But I wouldn't deflock a Wind Whistler or Shady because the normal versions already exist and aren't really expensive.

I wouldn't deflock a great condition SS (or an okay condition of the rarer 2nd set of So-Softs), but because I never liked the flocking (even as a kid) I am mostly pro-deflock. If you think about it, So-Softs have avoided so many of the scourges that commonly afflict MLPs (pen marks, highlighter lipstick, pindot mold) due to that protective layer of flocking and glue.  When you strip off the nasty flocking you reveal a stunning pony who is often near mint.  I see deflocking as almost a Magical Girl transformation.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 02, 2017, 03:28:09 PM
I really like the flocking, personally, so I'm not inclined to get rid of it. And like I said, if I ever had no choice but to deflock I wouldn't leave the pony deflocked.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Sky_Rocket_Sammie on December 02, 2017, 03:38:35 PM
If the flocking is in decent condition (no missing patches) keep it. Otherwise off it comes.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on December 02, 2017, 03:41:40 PM
I'd leave it how it is in almost every case, I'd only consider de flocking if there was a huge area where it's already rubbed off. It can be cleaned gently, and if there was a stain I'd try to sun fade it out or live with it if the flocking is still nice. So there would probably have to be more de flocked area than flocked to make me de flock one  :)

I'm pretty conservative as well.  I only de-flock when they are pretty far gone.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: kestral_kitsune on December 02, 2017, 03:47:23 PM
i've accidently deflocked my best wishes on accident cause I flubbed and forgot don't use hot water and my faucet has HOT water lol but unless its so horrible i like to leave the flock as is
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Radha on December 05, 2017, 09:17:14 PM
I have a little group I'll deflocking now (as time permits) due to their symbols being painted on...
Apparently some little one got frustrated not seeing the symbols clearly, and so decided to literally paint them on over the flock!  I tried soaking and water/soap but the paint seems very well set.  The ponies are lovely, though!
I too feel the pull of preserving the flocked versions, but I do hate how the glue yellows :/. I'll deflock  if it ruins my enjoyment of the pony.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: LadyMoondancer on December 06, 2017, 07:21:23 AM
I once bought a lot of ponies from someone who had tried to shave all her So-Softs a kid because she didn't like the flocking.  :P
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on December 06, 2017, 08:27:34 AM
I'd reflock any that come to me deflocked or are in poor condition, I love flocking on toys.
Heck, I'm considering flocking random ponies that I think would look good with it, but I'm not gonna touch any G1s unless I have a double, even though the flocking should be mostly undo-able.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 06, 2017, 09:08:43 AM
I have a little group I'll deflocking now (as time permits) due to their symbols being painted on...
Apparently some little one got frustrated not seeing the symbols clearly, and so decided to literally paint them on over the flock!  I tried soaking and water/soap but the paint seems very well set.  The ponies are lovely, though!
I too feel the pull of preserving the flocked versions, but I do hate how the glue yellows :/. I'll deflock  if it ruins my enjoyment of the pony.

Oooh. Poor ponies. :(
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: dragonfly on December 06, 2017, 10:53:29 AM
Since I was a kid, preferred deflocks. I shaved my Magic Star. Didn't like the faded yellow ... the flocking came off the corners of her hooves and I saw the vibrant color underneath.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Leave a Whisper on December 07, 2017, 07:57:39 PM
Since I was a kid, preferred deflocks. I shaved my Magic Star. Didn't like the faded yellow ... the flocking came off the corners of her hooves and I saw the vibrant color underneath.

I just imagined one of your parents picking up the electric razor and trying to figure out where the strange yellow fuzz came from.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Sky_Rocket_Sammie on December 07, 2017, 09:46:58 PM
What is the preferred way to deflock Surprise,Ribbons/ponies with that color of hair?  I loved them when I was a kid because they reminded me of fuzzy stickers. Ahhh 80s stickers.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: LadyMoondancer on December 07, 2017, 09:56:25 PM
Surprise is another one I wouldn't bother deflocking since she already has a NSS version.  :P  But anyway, when I deflocked I usually used acetone.  You don't dip the pony in it, you put some on a cotton ball or whatever and gradually scrub away the flocking.  IIRC I used a bucket of hot water, too.  Acetone the pony for a bit, dunk it in the hot water to get rid of loose flocking.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Pierlala on December 08, 2017, 12:13:34 AM
Surprise is another one I wouldn't bother deflocking since she already has a NSS version.  :P  But anyway, when I deflocked I usually used acetone.  You don't dip the pony in it, you put some on a cotton ball or whatever and gradually scrub away the flocking.  IIRC I used a bucket of hot water, too.  Acetone the pony for a bit, dunk it in the hot water to get rid of loose flocking.

I am not someone who de-flocks but isn't acetone dangerous for eyes and symbols?
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: achab1984 on December 08, 2017, 05:44:10 AM
I have only done it two times. I did a Twilight cause she was so gross that even washing her did not help. Otherwise I will not touch then even if they are thin in places.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on December 08, 2017, 09:38:37 AM
Surprise is another one I wouldn't bother deflocking since she already has a NSS version.  :P  But anyway, when I deflocked I usually used acetone.  You don't dip the pony in it, you put some on a cotton ball or whatever and gradually scrub away the flocking.  IIRC I used a bucket of hot water, too.  Acetone the pony for a bit, dunk it in the hot water to get rid of loose flocking.

I am not someone who de-flocks but isn't acetone dangerous for eyes and symbols?

Acetone will dissolve paint, yes.
Title: Re: To deflock or not to deflock
Post by: LadyMoondancer on December 08, 2017, 10:09:42 AM
Acetone does dissolve paint . . . but the first time I used that method I was deflocking a ratty SS to use as a custom base and I actually stripped off all the flocking without damaging the blush or symbols.  I had to scrub with additional acetone to remove the symbols.

Nevertheless I was more cautious with later deflocks (because I wanted to keep them as 'themselves') and on those I did the acetone around the symbol, then scraped off the fur over the symbol using just hot water and scrubbing.
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