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Title: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 10, 2019, 08:17:34 AM
I love Miraculous Ladybug. :cheer: It's such a fun show




Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on January 10, 2019, 09:35:16 AM
It is, isn't it? 
Now I have the theme song stuck in my head... ;D
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Bekuno on January 10, 2019, 09:39:57 AM
I love it too! It's just so cute and fun, even though it's pretty predictable.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 10, 2019, 12:04:50 PM
I have the French version of the theme song on my iPod. :) I wish the English version was available from iTunes also so I could compare the two. I’m still learning French so I can’t understand all of the words in French theme. I do understand  “I am a cat” in French. :lol:

Major spoliers in the spoiler box about events in Season Two

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Wow! :)  I love how each episode adds more depth to the characters. My guess about Gabriel’s wish was correct and I feel more sympathy now seeing how desperate he is to make his wish come true and how much he cares about Adrien even when he’s Hawk Moth. Natalie seemed ill after she used the Peacock Miraculous, maybe if the miraculous is damaged it affects the person who tries to use it negatively? 

I wonder if Gabriel and Adrien will ever detransform in front of each other and find out their secret identities? Whenever Master Fu opens the Miraculous box it looks like there are several miraculous that we haven’t seen the powers of yet.







Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 10, 2019, 04:55:38 PM
I was all over this show when the first season was airing, but sort of dropped off from it. I was mostly in it for the Ladybug/Chat Noir shipping square, did they finally reveal their identities to each other?
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 11, 2019, 09:21:54 AM
I was all over this show when the first season was airing, but sort of dropped off from it. I was mostly in it for the Ladybug/Chat Noir shipping square, did they finally reveal their identities to each other?


The airing schedule for s2 has been crazy but I overall like S2 better than most of S1. And no, not yet. But they keep teasing the possibilities.

I posted in the anime thread about this but I like how certain characters have been more fleshed out in Season 2.
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Also, things I find interesting - akumatising someone is a bad thing but usually has a good result (ie after the akumatisation the issue is usually resolved). It makes me wonder what the original power of the papillon may have been and whether it has been corrupted - perhaps to give someone the power to resolve other people's problems or make them capable of resolving their own problems somehow? Since Nooroo is clearly not evil...and nor really is Gabriel...I do wonder how much the ability has been warped by his desperation and whether the resolution aspect is just an accidental symptom of it being a kid's show trying to wrap things up nice.

Also, Chloe is blamed for akumatising a lot of people, but really Marinette is responsible for causing akumatisation as much, albeit more through misunderstanding than malice. I don't dislike Marinette, just putting that out there.

My only issue with the show is the pronunciation of akuma, and by connection the name of Adrien's fencing friend, Kagami. It's a-ku-ma, not a-KOO-ma, and ka-ga-mi, not ka-GAA-mi. My Japanese ear bleeds at things like that. (I think the French version generally gets akuma right though).

Also find it interesting that on the box of Miraculouses, there is written the word 奇跡. I don't know how it is read in Chinese but in Japanese that is kiseki, which means miracle. It's a random detail but I think it's a nice touch xD.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 11, 2019, 09:36:13 AM
Fly my little akoooooooooooooma.  :P
I'll have to give S2 a little watch sometime, then! I saw that there's new powers for the miraculous (miraculi?), which feels very magical girl to me. It feels like all of these TV shows have the strangest airing schedules (Steven Universe, I'm looking at you). Hopefully season 3 goes back to the normal weekly airing.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 11, 2019, 11:20:32 AM
I would have never started watching this show due to the crazy airing schedule here on a channel called This TV and every episode synopsis was the Christmas episode :lol: When I had to go out of town for a few days Miraculous Ladybug was airing on a channel as part of it's kid's programing and it looked so interesting that I had to see if it was on Netflix.

In Season 2 Master Fu figures out how to grant the Kwamis new powers and there are some new Miraculous powers revealed that we didn't see in Season 1. 


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We see the powers of the Fox, Turtle, Bee and Peacock miraculous in Season 2

I think Gabriel choosing  to use the butterfly miraculous for his own gain (even if he is doing it because of how much he loves and misses his wife) has corrupted the miraculous from performing its intended purpose. I feel bad for Nooroo. Gabriel keeps a pretty tight grip on him (much like he does with Adrien) and I don't think Nooroo likes helping Gabriel  turn in to Hawk Moth, but since Gabriel owns the miraculous, he owns the Kwami and Nooroo must do as his owner wishes.   

I also think that the Peacock is corrupted as well as damaged but find it very interesting that the user of the Peacock seems to become ill/hurt after trying to use it. It's the only miraculous we've seen so far that seems to affect the user in such as way.   

I also liked how characters were fleshed out in Season 2 espeically Gabriel and Chole. I think Marinette is getting a little better at realizing that she is sometimes responsible for people getting akumatized.





Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 12, 2019, 01:55:11 AM
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I actually don't like so much the magical kid squad motif, I was fine with it when it was just Rena Rouge, and the way Chloe's happened was clever, but I dunno, I'm a bit iffy about Wayzz being loaned out like a library book. Although it's kind of interesting that Marinette and Adrien get to keep their miraculouses, but the others never do. And the fact everyone knows Chloe's other identity puts them all at risk somewhat.

I wonder about Nooroo and Gabriel. To begin with I thought Nooroo was just being bullied, but there are moments when I wonder. For example, when Gabriel decides, briefly, to give Nooroo up...I feel like Nooroo also worries about Gabriel and so helps him, hoping that by doing so he can heal Gabriel and stop him from doing worse? I'm not sure...I just don't think it's as simple as all that.

Nooroo is more interesting to me than the bee and the fox. They don't seem to have given any real hint of who they are yet beyond being tools...whereas Nooroo seems like a character to me, like Wayzz, Tiki and Plagg.

I'd also like to see Adrien meet/work with Tiki in some way like Marinette has with Plagg but there's definitely a hierarchy and Marinette seems to have privileged information access rights that Adrien doesn't automatically have/get till later, so maybe it won't happen.

It's interesting how the show has in S2 had Adrien and Gabriel independently suspect each other and independently protect their identities, that seems to make it less likely they'll find out the truth about each other soon.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 12, 2019, 08:36:29 AM
I watched some season 2 episodes and I am back on my Miraculous kick. I'm roping my girlfriend into watching the rest of it with me, hee hee...I'm amused that everything is on YouTube.
Season 3 stuff in spoiler.
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I watched the first episode of Season 3. I'm all for the Adrien/Marinette ship and I'd love to see more of it, but I feel like Lila being a romantic rival is...eh. We already have Chloe, do we really need another? Poor Adrien. It feels cheap to me, but I'll have to see what they do with her.
I'd like to see something between Volpina and Rena Rouge. Maybe Lila targets Alya too because she sees her transform.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 12, 2019, 09:03:51 AM
I watched some season 2 episodes and I am back on my Miraculous kick. I'm roping my girlfriend into watching the rest of it with me, hee hee...I'm amused that everything is on YouTube.
Season 3 stuff in spoiler.
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I watched the first episode of Season 3. I'm all for the Adrien/Marinette ship and I'd love to see more of it, but I feel like Lila being a romantic rival is...eh. We already have Chloe, do we really need another? Poor Adrien. It feels cheap to me, but I'll have to see what they do with her.
I'd like to see something between Volpina and Rena Rouge. Maybe Lila targets Alya too because she sees her transform.

I had totally missed that 3 had begun, thanks for that heads up.

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I really don't like Lila. I have met enough people like her who lie and do it to hurt other people and I can't stand them, so I have really no desire to see more of her. But I don't think she's much of a romantic rival at the moment...it depends how much Adrien feels sorry for her I suppose. It is interesting having her as a rival interconnecting with Hawk Moth sometimes, but really, if she never appeared again I'd be happy.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 12, 2019, 12:06:45 PM

Season 3

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I'm not surprised that Lila has returned. I think the Season 2 finale left some hints that she still harbors resentment towards Marinette and is willing to let Hawk Moth akumatize her multiple times.  I'm also not a big fan of Lila either so I'd prefer if she didn't become a main character in Season 3



Spoilers about Season 2 including the finale

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I rewatched the scene with Gabriel and Natalie after Natalie tried to use the Peacock and noticed that Natalie is still wearing the Peacock brooch in that scence. I know they can wear the Miraculous without using its power but it makes me wonder if she might try to use the Peacock again even though Gabriel has warned her not to. 


I agree with you on the Kwamis Taffeta. :) I think it's interesting how the main Kwamis all have different personalities and hope we see more of the personality of the Bee and Fox.


Those are good points about Nooroo and Gabriel. I know when Gabriel refused to let Norooo out of his sight on Nooroo's birthday Gabriel said something about not allowing Nooroo to be able to speak but then told Nooroo that he wasn't cruel enough to go through with silencing him forever.

I'm guessing that there is something that prevents the Kwamis from realizing there are other Kwami's in the same area unless they are revealed by their owners? Otherwise wouldn't Plagg be able to sense Nooroo in the same house?

I also wonder if Chole revealing the Bee Miraculous, the Bee Kwami and the fact that she can transform in to Queen Bee will have consequences later. I understand why she did it, but if the Miraculous and the Kwamis are a supposed to be a secret, she has put them at risk.

I sympathize with Adrien feeling left out because Ladybug/Marinette gets more access to Master Fu and the Miraculous Box than he does and is the one that is entrusted to borrow the Miraculous/know the holder's true idenity . I really hope in Season 3 Adrien will also get some speical acess privileges(although not the same ones)  like Marinette does. I'd also love to see Adrien meet/work with Tiki.

Master Fu has mentioned a few times that there would be consequences if the wish made on the Ladybug and Cat Noir Mircaulouses was granted. I have to wonder if Gabriel was successful in making his wish come true would whatever the consequnces are happen to Adrien?



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 12, 2019, 03:28:27 PM
I need to rewatch the second half of season 2 now its aired completely in the UK but its on my tv box at home. I wish that we got the episodes all on netflix when you guys do, it would be so much easier. Right now we just have season 1 because Disney have the rights - but don't even put season 2 on their own catchup service while it is airing, sigh. Stupid.

Season 3
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I agree with you completely, Ponyfan. Lila in that one episode, fine. I can deal with her occasionally. But yeah. Not en masse.

Also I forget, did Chloe go somewhere? I remember she wanted her Mum to take her to NYC, and then that didn't happen, and her mum stayed around, and...I can't remember, did they all go somewhere at the end of one of those last episodes? Because she hasn't been in the series yet and I quite want her to put Lila in her place. And I don't really love Chloe, but at least I understand she's that way for a reason. Lila's family seem fine, by contrast...if a little easy to manipulate.

Second episode of season 3 had me going...erm...I'm watching a mixture of Jack and the Beanstalk and Beauty and the Beast? What now? But I actually still liked it. But wow. To begin with I thought it was a dream because it was really awkward (and how annoying must raising that baby be if he gets akumatised every time he's hungry?) But Adrien, "the worst thing is being lonely...and I know from my own experience"...:'( So far this season he seems the more grown up of the two. Marinette has rather messed up twice thus far, both times because she was too impulsive. And making an enemy of Lila was probably not a good plan...albeit unless Lila has better skills up her sleeve, it's going to be hard for her to do what she threatened to do. I still think Chloe needs to come back and kick her butt.

Also in the Jack and the Beaststalk episode, Plagg made a reference back to that mutual knowledge he and Tiki have about identities...when Adrien is out of the way he says that its not a problem having two girls...because they're the same girl...so I guess that is going to come up again in season 3, the kwamis knowing.

Also, re the last thing you said...

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I guess the consequence could be a life for a life. Albeit I think Gabriel would be more likely to sacrifice his life, if he had a choice, for hers - it might be Nathalie's for Emelie's, although it could also be Adrien's. But I think that the combined power of the two miraculouses - to create and to destroy - is basically the ability to mess with the fundaments of everything. I mean, we already know that Plagg is a lot more dangerous than he is when Adrien is Chat Noir and his power is limited before he transforms back to just one use. We have no idea how dangerous Tiki might be in the same context but I think I'm right that she's a lot older than Plagg is, so in her case it might be even worse...probably best it never happens :/ though I am assuming at one point somewhere that it might...at least they might fall into the wrong hands.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 13, 2019, 02:26:18 PM
The episodes are out of order on Netflix too but at least you can choose what episode you want to watch in any order. :)

Season 3

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I think I saw Chole in the background of the first episode of Season 3 When they show that a lot of the students have changed seats and Marinette thinks she will get the seat next to Adrien, but it seems the first episode is focused so much on Lilia and her conflict with Marinette that Chole is just a background character in this episode. It does seem strange that Chole is not trying to stake her "claim" on Adrien like she has for the last 2 seasons. I hope this doesn't mean that Chole has lost so much of her character potential this season.


I was hoping Marinette would become a little more mature in Season 3 but it sounds like so far she hasn't yet. I like that she's not perfect and makes mistakes but she seemed to be accepting that she was sometimes responsible for people being akumatized by jumping to conclusions too quickly at the end of Season 2.

I think Lila’s threat is her way of trying to control Marinette and I don’t think Adrien will be easy for her to manipulate since he already saw through her lies. Confronting Lila the way Marinette did wasn’t the best way and only gives Lila more reason to have a grudge against her.

It would have been interesting if Marinette had been akumatized, but then they wouldn’t be able to destroy the akuma since Ladybug is the only one that change them back to white butterflies.



That's very interesting that Plagg mentions that he knows Marinette and Ladybug are the same person. I was thinking that maybe they could only mention if they knew another holder's true identify in the presence of Master Fu or among themselves.







Also, re the last thing you said...

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I guess the consequence could be a life for a life. Albeit I think Gabriel would be more likely to sacrifice his life, if he had a choice, for hers - it might be Nathalie's for Emelie's, although it could also be Adrien's. But I think that the combined power of the two miraculouses - to create and to destroy - is basically the ability to mess with the fundaments of everything. I mean, we already know that Plagg is a lot more dangerous than he is when Adrien is Chat Noir and his power is limited before he transforms back to just one use. We have no idea how dangerous Tiki might be in the same context but I think I'm right that she's a lot older than Plagg is, so in her case it might be even worse...probably best it never happens :/ though I am assuming at one point somewhere that it might...at least they might fall into the wrong hands.





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I was thinking the same thing that the consequences might be one life in exchange for another. I don't think Gabriel would willingly risk Adrien's or Natalie's life (Although he does unknowingly put Adrien in danger by not realizing he's Cat Noir) but also think bringing the Ladybug and Cat Noir Miraculous together and trying to use them to make the wish might have bigger consequences than just a life for a life.

What you said about Plagg's power reminds me that the one time so far that we've seen Cat Noir use Cataclysm out of anger (in the Christmas episode) it caused a lot more destruction than usual and Plagg was so much weaker than usual after Adrien detransformed so maybe it would not only hurt the Kwamis but the holders and innocent people also.


Maybe Tiki’s full power would involve creating anything the holder desires whether it would be for a good or evil purpose.

I just thought of something. What if someone else tried to make the wish on the Miraculous before? Maybe that is what caused Master Fu to lose the Butterfly and Peacock Miraculous.





Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 13, 2019, 10:56:17 PM
I think this can probably not go in spoilers as it's such an old reference, but regarding Plagg and the Christmas episode...I remember wondering about that at the time, because it seems so strange and out of place. I had put it down to maybe Adrien forced him to transform without adequately fuelling him, but I dunno. Perhaps you have something there. O.o. I also wonder whether or not there's a negative impact on the Kwami if the power is used recklessly, as Adrien did in that instance.

In other things...
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I also think the consequences could be vast. Let's think about it - Cataclysm can destroy stuff but Ladybug's ability to put everything back to rights is vital after all of their fights (if kid-show convenient). It implies potential permanent change.

I wonder a lot about the incident that led to the loss of Nooroo and the Peacock as well...and whether the peacock is actually damaged or if it is the nature of the ability. I remember Master Fu chose Adrien and Marinette, for all it seemed arbitrary. He tested Adrien in particular, if I remember rightly, with his spectacularly fake 'fall over' moment...but he is also always emphatic about individuals being worthy to hold the miraculouses. Chloe was an abberation albeit in the end it worked out - but it could have gone the same way as Nooroo, falling into the hands of someone who isn't necessarily evil but who wants to use the kwami for their own personal interests rather than overall good. Maybe that has some impact on the peacock as well...because for all he is not an evil person, Gabriel is using Nooroo for evil purposes. I find him a really interesting character in general.

I don't dislike Marinette for all her flaws and frustrations and moments when she just doesn't think. I have probably always liked Adrien/Chat Noir a little more because there's more going on with Adrien as a person and the way he is as Chat...but I just think Marinette is a genuinely emotional person and sometimes it means she gets carried away in that moment and doesn't see the bigger issues. She's a teenage girl at the end of the day...whereas although Adrien is a teenage boy, a lot of the normal experiences a teenager would have have passed him by and so he sees things sometimes more clearly. (And sometimes not).

One thing I will say though for them is that Adrien is more honest with his feelings. In Season 2 he asked Marinette about Kagami but then ultimately told Kagami he wasn't ready to move on from Ladybug (though Kagami clearly thinks he likes Marinette in my view).
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Now in S3 he tells Tom (as Chat) very clearly that he has feelings for Ladybug and he has also said this to Ladybug's face and to Plagg as well
While Marinette talks to her friends a lot about her feelings for Adrien, and to Tiki, she hasn't told Adrien himself.

Perhaps she is more afraid of rejection than Adrien because Adrien is more used to being rejected? I wonder. There's something about how Adrien is not the same person when he's Chat - so maybe the mask gives him more confidence to say things.

On another note - Chloe seriously needs to kick Lila's butt.

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 14, 2019, 03:18:31 PM
I think both are good possibilities and I'd love to see the show explore that idea more (although it might have just been a scene written for Plagg to have a chance to sing :lol:) It might also have to do with the fact that Adrien chose to transform out of anger/the desire to escape rather than actually being needed as Cat Noir.

 
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I agree. The hints we've seen so far about how dangerous Cataclysm can be even if controlled by Cat Noir (and how dangerous Plagg can be when he does it on his own)  and Volpina's illusion when the "bad Ladybug" forced Cat Noir to use Cataclysm on himself destroying him imply severe consequences.

I really like Marinette also. I was just hoping she would be a little less impulsive in Season 3 and after already making the first mistake with Lila (embarrassing her in front of Adrien when she appeared as Ladybug) it  seems like Marinette should be a little more wary around Lila considering everything that has happened recently.


I think you're right that Marinette fears Adrien rejecting her. In the nightmare episode her greatest fear as Marinette was that Adrien was really in love with Chole and Adrien's greatest fear was being locked in a cage (although Garbiel does keep him in a glided cage by restricting him so much)   


I'll have to rewatch Season 1 but I think Mater Fu mentioned that he "only got it wrong once" I'm not sure if he means choosing the wrong Miraculous holder or whatever happened that caused the Butterfly and Peacock to become lost.  I don't think Gabriel is the rightful holder of the Butterfly though, otherwise Master Fu would know who Hawk Moth really is.

Season 2 helped me see how complex Gabriel and Chole are.  I'm not sure if we've seen the full power of the Peacock since it seems Gabriel stopped Natalie before she had a chance to use its full power (or maybe because the Peacock is damaged no one is able to use its power) I think Gabriel mentioned that he and his wife found the Butterfly, the Peacock and the book on the last trip they took together but that doesn’t give us any clues to how they were lost or who the rightful holders are.

I really thought Chole having the Bee Miraculous would end up with her using Pollen for her own purposes. I think it would be interesting to see more of how Gabriel treats Nooroo also.


I've noticed that when Adrien is Cat Noir his voice is a little different than when he's just Adrien but now that I think about it. I think you're right that he feels more confident and free when he's Cat Noir than when he's Adrien. 




Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 14, 2019, 03:39:59 PM
I am not sure if this needs spoilers, I think probably not, but I think the timeline over Nooroo and the peacock is interesting. I will spoiler it just in case :) Though we probably should settle on where to draw the spoiler line (I mean, season 1 is fair game right?)

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At some point in the past Master Fu 'made a mistake', it had big consequences. But as you say, he didn't give Nooroo to Hawk Moth because then he'd know who Hawk Moth was.

We don't know when this occurred. Master Fu is quite old, so the timeline is indistinct here.

We do know that Emelie 'disappeared' a year or so ago, because in the Christmas episode Adrien says its his first Christmas without his mother.

She probably wasn't visibly ill before that because Adrien is smart and would've noticed. So whatever it was happened suddenly.

We don't really know when 'the trip' happened through which they found these, or how they did - whether it was by accident or on purpose, or if there's someone else's hand at work. We don't know either if the mistake was giving the peacock to Emelie because since Emelie is effectively gone, for all Master Fu knows, the peacock miraculous could be anywhere...? But it seems likely it was someone else and they came into Gabriel and Emelie's hands accidentally. Maybe when filming - Emelie was an actress, so would've been on location. Gabriel also doesn't go out hardly at all since her disappearance, is that just paranoia to protect his secrets or because he associates going out with her getting hurt? Maybe he was out or away when the incident happened? I dunno.

Is Emelie even dead? I am not totally sure if she is or whether she's frozen somehow in that box but technically alive. Either way she's been preserved, so something is going on there. She's not still possessed by the Peacock because Nathalie was able to use it. And Gabriel was frightened by the way it hurt Nathalie so it's almost as if he didn't know all the details of his wife's situation either. Unless it wasn't the peacock's fault?

Also I know he's rich but all the family are famous. How did he manage to conceal his wife in the basement and not let anyone know she didn't actually leave?
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 15, 2019, 12:12:52 PM
Maybe we should use the spoiler tags for the last few episodes of Season 2 (so eveything from “Style Queen”- “Mayura”) since the last half of Season 2 was just added to US Netflix in December and Season 3 :) Speaking of Season 3 I’ve only been able to find the first episode in English so far. The timelime is very interesting. :) I guess I didn’t realize that it’s been such a short time since Emelie disappeared.

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I’m also thinking that Emelie might still be alive but in such a deep state of unconsciousness that Gabriel and Nathalie think she’s dead. I do wonder if Emelie’s current state is related to the Peacock Miraculous in some way. I also wonder if it might not be the Peacock itself, but its Kwami. If the Kwami was somehow corrupted, (not just forced to use the Miraculous for evil like Nooroo) it could explain why the Peacock holder becomes ill after using it.

Maybe Gabriel feels responsible for what happened to Emelie and that’s why he’s trying so hard to get the Ladybug and Cat Noir Miraculous to bring her back. It might also explain why he’s so protective of Adrien and has a bodyguard for him.

Gabriel must have gotten Nathalie to help him move Emelie in to the basement at some point, probably making sure Adrien was out of the house or in his room. Maybe Nathalie even helped spread the story that Emelie disappeared. I wondered at first why Gabriel didn’t at least tell Adrien that Emelie is in the basement but then I realized how devasting that would be for Adrien to find out.

Is the basement also where he sends out the akumas from?

Another thing I wonder about is if Gabriel will hide the Peacock Miraculous from Nathalie to prevent her from trying to use it again?




Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 15, 2019, 04:29:59 PM
It is pretty funny going backwards in time through all of the fanfictions. Ah, how little we knew back when season 1 was still airing...
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Maybe something happened to Emilie while she was using the peacock miraculous, and that's why she's in that comatose state? It feels like she's just stuck like that rather than dead. Maybe the miraculous got infected or something, which is why Gabriel was worried for Natalie when she wore it.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 15, 2019, 04:45:52 PM
@Ponyfan - E2 is there but only I think in French with subs atm.

I still need to rewatch the Style Queen/Queen Wasp/Maledictator trilogy altogether. I've only seen Maledictator once, it was the last episode my TV box recorded (after Heroes Day and Mayura, which should tell you everything about the airing here now they're on repeat). 

@tailrustedtealeaf - writing fanfic for an ongoing series is a minefield. I've only done it once (manga-related) because it throws up so many complications.

I haven't read any ML fanfics but I imagine based on season 1 they're pretty hostile to Gabriel...

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There is always the possibility that Gabriel put Emelie into that thing because if she was allowed to be loose she would be really dangerous. YOu know, that he had to take her down for her own good while he found a cure...? That may explain his inability to let it go, if he feels that it's somehow his fault. Unless of course he was using Nooroo prior to him becoming Hawk Moth (ie, not in a negative and attention-grabbing way), perhaps to help individuals realise their dreams or something  - creating heroes or giving talents or whatever? And he gave her the peacock and something happened? I dunno. Lots of potential options...real one will probably be much more mundane xD
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 16, 2019, 10:46:42 AM
Thanks Taffeta. :)  US Netflix puts "Trouble Maker" between "Style Queen" and "Queen Wasp" and then two more episodes between "Queen Wasp" and "Maldictator" :silly:


I think it's pretty easy to misjudge Gabriel based on Season 1, but Season 2 really brings out how deep his character is. 

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I agree there are so many possibilties that could be the reason for Emelie's current state. Maybe the Peacock corrupts its holder if used for an extended period of time? or if Gabriel tried to take the Peacock from Emelie while she was transformed (if she was too dangerous) it might  result in the holder becoming comatose? We've seen the akumatized villains start to remove the Miraculous from Ladybug a couple times and she started to change back in to Marinette but that might not be the only thing that happens if the Miraculous is taken by force instead of taken off by the rightful holder.

When Hawmoth become so worried about Nathalie using the Peacock and detransformed back in to Gabriel it semed like Nooroo was surprised he had changed back witout using the detrasnformation pharse? He didn't transform back to Gabriel when Adrien was about to fall to his death but he knew if he had Gorzilla release Ladybug she would save Adrien but he was the only one that knew where Nathalie was and the only one that could reach her in time. 



Season 3


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I watched part of the "Weredad" episode and noticed Nathalie seems fine and I didn't see her wearing the Peacock brooch. Has there been any indication that Nathalie might still have the Peacock? If Gabriel doesn't want her to use it again I'm not sure if the safe is a good place for it since Nathalie knows the combination.





Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 16, 2019, 11:00:33 AM
Thanks Taffeta. :)  US Netflix puts "Trouble Maker" between "Style Queen" and "Queen Wasp" and then two more episodes between "Queen Wasp" and "Maldictator" :silly:


Gah. That will probably happen here, then, whenever s2 gets onto our netflix. There have been rumours of s3 starting in the UK on Disney early in this year but since I only get to record stuff when at my parents', I will still have to wait for a repeat for most of them if it begins soon. Hence why I watch on YT as I can't get Disney here (or POP since I moved). If they put it all promptly on Netflix like they do for you guys I wouldn't have to.

Troublemaker aired in the UK a really long time before the trilogy did. My box is so obsessed with it it's recorded it like 3 times :/ But anyway.
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Yeah, it seems like Nathalie is fine. I feel a little like the start of S3 is abrupt, but then I guess the start of S1 is also abrupt, so maybe that's just how it is. S1 ended with the flashback episode so in a way it didn't seem that way for S2 (assuming the Collector is the official first episode of season 2?) I feel like there should have been an episode inbetween Mayura and the first ep of season 3 but I guess not...

I have seen some other hint spoilers from the creators that
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the peacock is going to appear again, so I assume that's Nathalie.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 16, 2019, 11:34:14 AM
It looks like season 3 is going to air...somewhere sometime next month? Google seems confused and keeps saying Weredad is episode 2, but Animaestro is also episode 2? Everyone's confused. I can't even find where google is getting these dates.
I also watched some of the chibi shorts. Teeth-rottingly cute. So much nicer than the 2D 6-teen-esque style they had going for that other short series.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 16, 2019, 02:55:41 PM
It looks like season 3 is going to air...somewhere sometime next month? Google seems confused and keeps saying Weredad is episode 2, but Animaestro is also episode 2? Everyone's confused. I can't even find where google is getting these dates.
I also watched some of the chibi shorts. Teeth-rottingly cute. So much nicer than the 2D 6-teen-esque style they had going for that other short series.

I think Season 3 might still be in production right now but Wikipedia (not sure how accurate their information is ) says that “Weredad” is episode 2 and “Animaestro” is episode 3. I haven’t seen any of the shorts yet.

Thanks Taffeta. :)  US Netflix puts "Trouble Maker" between "Style Queen" and "Queen Wasp" and then two more episodes between "Queen Wasp" and "Maldictator" :silly:


Gah. That will probably happen here, then, whenever s2 gets onto our netflix. There have been rumours of s3 starting in the UK on Disney early in this year but since I only get to record stuff when at my parents', I will still have to wait for a repeat for most of them if it begins soon. Hence why I watch on YT as I can't get Disney here (or POP since I moved). If they put it all promptly on Netflix like they do for you guys I wouldn't have to.

Troublemaker aired in the UK a really long time before the trilogy did. My box is so obsessed with it it's recorded it like 3 times :/ But anyway.


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Yeah, it seems like Nathalie is fine. I feel a little like the start of S3 is abrupt, but then I guess the start of S1 is also abrupt, so maybe that's just how it is. S1 ended with the flashback episode so in a way it didn't seem that way for S2 (assuming the Collector is the official first episode of season 2?) I feel like there should have been an episode inbetween Mayura and the first ep of season 3 but I guess not...

I have seen some other hint spoilers from the creators that
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the peacock is going to appear again, so I assume that's Nathalie.

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I also feel like the start of Season 3 is a little abrupt. I thought there would be something referencing Nathalie’s using the Peacock in Mayura, maybe a scene of Gabriel asking Nathalie if she’s okay or Gabriel moving the Peacock somewhere where he thinks Nathalie won’t be able to find it, etc...

With the creators confirming that the Peacock will return it makes me wonder what will drive Nathalie to try to use it again now that she knows how it affects the holder and if she’ll sufffer worse effects than the first time. I'm finding Nathalie to be a fascinating character. 



I don’t think anyone’s mentioned this yet but I love how in the English version the transformation phrases are related to the same animal as the Miraculous “Spots on,” “Claws out” etc... I think  in the French version it’s “Tranform Me”.

Ponyfan


Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 16, 2019, 04:52:34 PM
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I saw a list of up to 10 episode titles for s3 so far and Weredad was listed as #2 but given the production number of 6...so *shrug*. Also it seems like it aired in Switzerland (but not the Chameleon ep) and the Chameleon ep aired in Spain (but not the Weredad one)? So what is going on there I wonder?

I do remember it being said somewhere that they didn't want a break between 2 and 3 to be too long so they had been producing them alongside one another. I don't know what other spoiler info there is, I don't go looking for it but just found that by accident trying to discover if there was an official air date for the UK yet
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 17, 2019, 03:50:24 AM
I've found a couple different versions of the theme song.

"It's Ladybug!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je-F8Da8oe4


"Miraculous, simply the best!"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiq2qS1Alzw



I like Cat Noir's verse in "It's Ladybug!" :)



Ponyfan

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 17, 2019, 06:00:42 AM
I've found a couple different versions of the theme song.

"It's Ladybug!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je-F8Da8oe4


"Miraculous, simply the best!"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiq2qS1Alzw



I like Cat Noir's verse in "It's Ladybug!" :)



Ponyfan



That's cute. I like the French version of the song best, I think...but I admit that is cute :)
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 18, 2019, 05:00:33 AM
I also enjoy the French version. :)


Season 3

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Is it just me or does the fight between Weredad and Cat Noir seem a little more intense than the usual fight between the heroes and the akumatized villains? Is Weredad trying to actually kill Cat Noir because he said he wasn't in love with Marinette but with Ladybug?

I don't know if the information I saw was accurate but I heard that we might see the Snake Kwami and its power in Season 3.





Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: bladed on January 18, 2019, 05:11:53 AM
I also enjoy the French version. :)


Season 3

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Is it just me or does the fight between Weredad and Cat Noir seem a little more intense than the usual fight between the heroes and the akumatized villains? Is Weredad trying to actually kill Cat Noir because he said he wasn't in love with Marinette but with Ladybug?

I don't know if the information I saw was accurate but I heard that we might see the Snake Kwami and its power in Season 3.





Ponyfan
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i think that's true, there was a lot of other info from the same set such as mouse kwami, ladynoir kwami swap etc and it was shown at a brazillian(?) con i believe...

i haven't watched weredad yet. i like the french version but i usually wait for the english in this case
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 19, 2019, 11:52:20 AM
Thanks bladed. :) It's a little hard for me to tell what's official and what's fan theory on some of the Miraculous info for season 3.

I've started rewatching Season 1 and have already noticed a few things I didn't see the first time. :)

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I think I'll have to wait for the English dub to watch "Weredad" completely. I've watched parts of it in French with the English subttiles but trying to read them and watch the show at the same time means I miss a lot of what's going on in the episode


A Kwami swap could be interesing. I wonder how that might work out as it seems that a Kwami/its power can only be used by one holder at a time (even though Master Fu does loan Waayz to Marinette/Nino a couple of times)


Something I've been thinking about is if Nathalie might have been friends with Emilie. I don't think it's been mentioned how long Nathalie's been Gabriel's assistant. Maybe Emilie showed off the Peacock and its Kwami to Nathalie at some point.


Ponyfan

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 20, 2019, 09:26:34 AM
I think rewatching S1 gives a different impression of Gabriel. Though I find it also hard to believe that there were a lot of people who didn't think Gabriel was Hawk Moth during S1 when it's really obvious that he is. I don't remember what episode I saw first but it was an early one, I think the one with the zoo - in any case, I didn't watch most of s1 in order as I watched whatever came on Pop when I happened to flick through channels, and it still was pretty obvious...
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I also think that The Collector from s2 is a very clever episode from Gabriel's point of view that demonstrates he's not just a baddie but a smart guy. Although what got me about that episode was the dialogue between Adrien and Marinette - "you got proof?" and "he can't be Hawk Moth, because he's been akumatised." "And that's good news?" (And knowing that of course, he is Hawk Moth, I guess I felt a bit bad for Adrien in that moment. I felt similar in Gorizilla for Gabriel who even suspecting his son is Cat Noir, is worried about putting him in danger...The Agreste family are for me much more interesting if really messed up than Marinette's family, albeit after Weredad her Dad is clearly super embarrassing.

On this same note of Weredad, I felt really bad again for Adrien because despite having to listen to the most embarrassing Dad-speech ever...he calls the meal the most warm he's been to in a while. An overprotective over affectionate Dad - he never gets to see the side of Gabriel which worries about his safety and which occasionally freaks out when Adrien isn't where he ought to be. And yet despite that his communication skills are way better than Marinettes at times.

We've seen a hint of how Adrien might react to Hawkmoth being his father, as he was game to go investigate, no matter how bad he felt about the possibility. But I agree with whoever said above that if he knew about Emelie it might make him react differently. He might even try and get Ladybug to help...

If there is going to be a snake, it isn't in the s3 titles.

I like watching in French sometimes. My French is more rusty and less fluent than my Japanese so I still need subtitles for the details but I can about muddle through with subs and the French dialogue without losing anything from the show. Now if it were in any other language, I'd be screwed...xD.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 20, 2019, 05:31:39 PM
I don’t remember when I figured out that Gabriel is Hawk Moth but I think it was before the Season 2 episode that confirmed it. When Nooroo is explaining about the Miraculous right before Gabriel forced him to transform him in to Hawk Moth, Gabriel is holding a picture of Emelie.

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I agree with you about Gabriel. He even mentioned in “Style Queen” that he knew just how to manipulate Audrey (reserving a seat for her in the 2nd row) to make her an excellent akumatized villain. 

That moment in Gorizilla was when I realized that Gabriel/Hawk Moth isn’t really evil and just how much Gabriel cares about what happens to Adrien. 

I was rewatching part of episode and right after Gabriel starts the movie and we almost see Emelie’s face the camera  goes down to the basement.

I’ve been thinking about Gabriel’s relationship with Adrien and the fact that he’s usually pretty distant and cold with Adrien and it seems only Nathalie sees when Gabriel is worried about him. Could Adrien remind him of Emelie and that’s why he’s so distant?

In “Sandboy” after Plagg tricked Adrien with the sock, Plagg told Adrien how happy he was that Adrien let him have so much freedom and Adrien replied that he knows how it feels to not have any freedom.

Adrien must feel very lonely with no one but Plagg to really talk to (unless he's at school) and his attempts to talk to/spend time with his father usually don’t work out. Even Nathalie doesn’t eat with him although she does seem a little more sensitive to Adrien’s feelings than Gabriel at times.

Maybe the book has a solution that would restore Emelie without making the wish? I wonder if the fact that Master Fu is now Adrien's Chinese tutor is significant?




I can understand when they say "I am..." in French :lol: and a few other words. 


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 21, 2019, 03:40:52 AM
Let's not forget the bodyguard. For all he is the strong and silent type, he also has shown moments where he cares about Adrien's well-being. And has broken the rules as well, as Adrien has persuaded the bodyguard to drive him places other than where he's meant to be. I think he's a nice guy, too - whether we will ever hear him speak, however...

Also, I don't think he is in on everything. But he might be. I just feel like he's on the outside, whereas Nathalie (who I agree, is sympathetic to a greater degree) is on the inside.
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But I really believe Nathalie wants to marry Gabriel, and has a flash of hope about that when Gabriel finally leaves the mansion and says he's going to give up...because it's a sign that Gabriel is moving on. I don't think her hopes are self-serving, I think she genuinely wants him to be happy...but for that split second she feels like maybe there's a chance he's going to let go of Emelie and look forward. Which I can see being the ultimate answer to the problem...

Adrien definitely relies on Plagg for company. What's interesting is that Tiki is sometimes a curb on Marinette's more impulsive teen behaviour - reminding her of her duty, etc, worrying about what she's going to reveal and so on. Plagg is rarely like that, as though Adrien needs a different kind of life coach. Plagg is quite mischievous really. It also amuses me how much he teases Adrien about his love-life (or potential love-life). I don't feel like Adrien has those conversations with Nino though...

I wonder if Master Fu is permanently Adrien's Chinese master or if that was just a one off in order to get the message across under the radar. I also wonder if Master Fu is still suspicious of Gabriel. When Marinette says Gabriel can't be Hawk Moth, Fu says "That's very probable"...not "yep, let's write him off the list". And he sneaks his way into the Agreste home to speak to Adrien, even though the first time they met was outside, and he could've reasonably accosted him after or before school in a similar way. Also, he knows Adrien has a Chinese teacher...how much is he spying on this family?

Watching the Collector again, there's a big timeline gap between a young Master Fu making a mistake and losing 2 miraculous and Emelie disappearing a year or less before. And if the book is the last gift Gabriel gave Emelie, providing that is true, it suggests they went there a year earlier, found the Miraculouses and the book and something happened then. If it were earlier, then surely he'd have had other gifts in between that time, and we know its Adrien's first Christmas without Emelie, so it can't have happened that long ago. But did Emelie 'disappear' overseas and if so, that's the one aspect I could see the bodyguard being in on, as it would surely take Gabriel, Nathalie and the bodyguard to bring her back without any kind of outside fuss.

Also Gabriel goes on trips with his wife, but not with Adrien. And Adrien sounds like he doesn't really know his father that well even prior to that point, so maybe it wasn't uncommon for them to go away and leave him with Nathalie and bodyguard. Also that he probably had a closer relationship with Emelie, since he seems so caught up in her memory, but that Gabriel has always had a problem showing his son proper affection...

My French is very rusty. I can understand much more than I can speak now. And I don't know every word, but I can still generally figure things out. I did French at school from 11 until first year of uni when I was 19, and I went to a conference a year or so back which was in ENglish, Japanese and French and realised I could still understand enough French to follow the lectures. But any other dub is beyond me xD and I still need the subs for ML in French, to get all the details. But it means I'm not just focusing on the words, I have time to see the episode as well, which is nice :) And I like them speaking in French sometimes, as it feels original...and also they can pronounce akuma right more often ;)
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 21, 2019, 07:26:13 PM
Maybe the bodyguard realizes Adrien needs more freedom than Gabriel allows and doesn’t really mind sneaking him away from time to time since he can still do his job of protecting him even if Adrien isn’t in the right place (as long as Adrien doesn’t transform in to Cat Noir or run away from him) He probably hears Adrien complaining whenever Gabriel has refused to allow Adrien to do something or go somewhere.

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I also think Nathalie is in love with Gabriel but is holding back on expressing it because of Gabriel’s love for Emelie. I don’t thnk Gabriel realized how much he cares about Nathalie until she used the Peacock.  Nathalie is probably the person he’s closest to and he’s trusted her with most (if not all) of his secrets. I’m not sure if Nathalie knows the reason for Emelie’s current condition though or if she knew the effects the Peacock would have on her if she used it.

I think the theory that whatever happened to Emelie might have happened while she was out of the country/on the trip is a good possibility. Too many questions might have been raised if it had happened in Paris unless it happened within the walls of the mansion and Gabriel made up the disappearance story to give him time to move her in to the basement and make sure that she wouldn’t be found. Keeping up the disappearance story also makes it possible for Emelie to return.  It also gives Gabriel a reason to keep Adrien inside the mansion as much possible if it’s connected to the trip he and Emelie took together. If the bodyguard was involved maybe Nathalie and Gabriel convinced him that Emelie was just really sick and needed better medical care than could be provided on the trip, but then he would know that she didn't disappear. I do think Nathalie helped Gabriel hide Emelie in the basement and was there when Gabriel made his promise to her

Could  Emelie have bought the Miraculous and the book and gave Gabriel the book, intending to give him the Butterfly also and kept the Peacock for herself?

Maybe Master Fu is keeping a close watch on Gabriel and Adrien without trying to raise Gabriel's suspisions and hoping he finds out if Gabriel is Hawk Moth and has the Peacock?

I also think Adrien would react differently if he knew about his mother and would seek help from Ladybug, Master Fu and Plagg.

I think it’s interesting that the magic potion cheeses and macaroons (the ones that give the Kwamis extra powers) can only be used one time and then the Kwamis have to use another one to power up again.


I like Plagg and Adrien’s interactions. :) I think Adrien feels he can truly be himself with Plagg and Plagg feels the same way.


Another thing I've been wondering about is how Hawk Moth is able to stay transformed for long stretches of time without changing back to Gabriel after using his power.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 23, 2019, 05:29:57 AM
I've been thinking a bit about Gabriel's relationship with Nooroo and that whole aspect as well.
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We don't see him fuel Nooroo, although he must I guess at some point...unless this is a trait of the specific Ladybug and CN miraculouses because they seem to be special and thus their power must be limited in the hands of humans. We haven't I don't think seen any of the others need/be fuelled in that way.

So Gabriel and Nooroo. To begin with it really seems like Nooroo is bullied and Fu and the others seem to think that Nooroo is forced into the partnership, but there are odd moments where I don't think that's the case. He is controlled, like Adrien, in a sense - but I also feel like Nooroo feels its his duty to watch over Gabriel as well. There's that moment in the Collector where he temporarily renounces Nooroo and Nooroo seems quite surprised. Then when he brings Nooroo out again, Gabriel asks, "did you miss me?" and Nooroo is all, "At your service, master." It doesn't seem quite the bullying relationship that you might expect. I also think the white butterflies are important, and maybe the core of the real power. I really feel like the Papillon is meant to resolve problems and this is being hijacked - because ultimately the problems do get resolved. I feel like Nooroo's core power is to help people find the strength/power to resolve their own problems. And maybe Nooroo is sticking with Gabriel because as yet he hasn't helped Gabriel fix HIS problem. Nooroo seems sympathetic to Gabriel - but it may also connect to the peacock and some knowledge of that. I think there's that one episode where it's Nooroo's birthday and he seems like he might slip out but then he doesn't and Gabriel doesn't let him which suggests control  -but I wonder how much Nooroo could fight back if he really wanted to. He does sometimes question Gabriel's actions - but he still participates in them. I dunno. That bond really interests me. I would rather know more about Nooroo than see cameo appearances from Rena Rouge, Queen Bee and whatever it is Nino calls himself, can't remember. I get that's the kid show hero bit of it - but I still feel like its a bit low-key, they have to give the miraculouses back, and they all know some part of each other's secrets re their identities and Marinette basically just gives them to her friends anyway. So that's less interesting to me than figuring out how Nooroo ended up with Gabriel and why.

We don't know why the two miraculous disappeared the day Master Fu made a mistake. We don't know if they disappeared in a disaster or if they were stolen or what happened. We don't know what destroyed the place, either. We don't know any of these things. Also we don't know if Master Fu used a miraculous he shouldn't have done in this process...lots of questions here that need answering.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 23, 2019, 09:00:02 AM
Speculating in spoiler.
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One thought that I keep having is that Gabriel or Emilie was gifted the butterfly or peafowl miraculous, and then the other went to steal it. If two were stolen that day, then that seems to me as if Emilie was still alive at that point. If there was a general timeline given, I don't remember it? So this could have been before Adrien's birth? But then why wouldn't Fu have given the Ladybug/Cat miraculi out sooner? Unless he was waiting for news of the miraculous to be used to keep them a secret...But then why would the miraculous have been gifted in the first place? Doesn't make a lot of sense but it keeps nagging at me because of the Peafowl being dangerous, which would have killed the miraculous user/put her in comatose state.
Because butterflies are part of the Agreste brand, at least somewhat subtle-y, if we are to assume that they have BEEN in the mansion and such then he has had the miraculous for a while, before he became hawk moth.
Also lol, hawk/peacock moth/butterfly. I see...
 
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 23, 2019, 12:35:49 PM
Something I've been thinking about is if all of the Miraculous are meant to ideally work in pairs like the Ladybug and Cat Noir ones do.

I've been thinking a bit about Gabriel's relationship with Nooroo and that whole aspect as well.
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We don't see him fuel Nooroo, although he must I guess at some point...unless this is a trait of the specific Ladybug and CN miraculouses because they seem to be special and thus their power must be limited in the hands of humans. We haven't I don't think seen any of the others need/be fuelled in that way.

So Gabriel and Nooroo. To begin with it really seems like Nooroo is bullied and Fu and the others seem to think that Nooroo is forced into the partnership, but there are odd moments where I don't think that's the case. He is controlled, like Adrien, in a sense - but I also feel like Nooroo feels its his duty to watch over Gabriel as well. There's that moment in the Collector where he temporarily renounces Nooroo and Nooroo seems quite surprised. Then when he brings Nooroo out again, Gabriel asks, "did you miss me?" and Nooroo is all, "At your service, master." It doesn't seem quite the bullying relationship that you might expect. I also think the white butterflies are important, and maybe the core of the real power. I really feel like the Papillon is meant to resolve problems and this is being hijacked - because ultimately the problems do get resolved. I feel like Nooroo's core power is to help people find the strength/power to resolve their own problems. And maybe Nooroo is sticking with Gabriel because as yet he hasn't helped Gabriel fix HIS problem. Nooroo seems sympathetic to Gabriel - but it may also connect to the peacock and some knowledge of that. I think there's that one episode where it's Nooroo's birthday and he seems like he might slip out but then he doesn't and Gabriel doesn't let him which suggests control  -but I wonder how much Nooroo could fight back if he really wanted to. He does sometimes question Gabriel's actions - but he still participates in them. I dunno. That bond really interests me. I would rather know more about Nooroo than see cameo appearances from Rena Rouge, Queen Bee and whatever it is Nino calls himself, can't remember. I get that's the kid show hero bit of it - but I still feel like its a bit low-key, they have to give the miraculouses back, and they all know some part of each other's secrets re their identities and Marinette basically just gives them to her friends anyway. So that's less interesting to me than figuring out how Nooroo ended up with Gabriel and why.

We don't know why the two miraculous disappeared the day Master Fu made a mistake. We don't know if they disappeared in a disaster or if they were stolen or what happened. We don't know what destroyed the place, either. We don't know any of these things. Also we don't know if Master Fu used a miraculous he shouldn't have done in this process...lots of questions here that need answering.


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That's a good point about never seeing Nooroo being fed. I assume Gabriel feeds him but as you said we've never seen any of the other Kwamis besides Tiki and Plagg need food to be able to use their power.

I think Gabriel wants to make sure Nooroo knows that he can be a cruel master if he so chooses . I wonder if Gabriel's relationship with Nooroo is similar to the one between him and Adrien in that Gabriel cares and provides for Nooroo but  becomes angry when his rules are broken and sometimes overreacts with a harsh punishment

I agree that Nooroo is reluctant to leave Gabriel in such a state when he's so consumed by the loss of Emelie and wants to help him. I think Master Fu, Ladybug and Cat Noir only see the evil side of Hawk Moth but Nooroo knows the kind of man that Gabriel used to be before Emelie's "disappearance"


I also agree with you about the way the other Miraculous are handed out by Marinette. I don't mind Ladybug and Cat Noir needing some extra help every once in a while but it bothered me that she was going to give the Bee to Alya after just giving her the Fox a few episodes before as it seems a Miraculous holder should only be able to use one Miraculous.


I agree. Season 2 leaves so many questions unanswered. Based on how most of the major plot twists weren’t revealed until the end of Season 2 I’m afraid we’ll have to wait several season 3 episodes to find out more.

Speculating in spoiler.
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One thought that I keep having is that Gabriel or Emilie was gifted the butterfly or peafowl miraculous, and then the other went to steal it. If two were stolen that day, then that seems to me as if Emilie was still alive at that point. If there was a general timeline given, I don't remember it? So this could have been before Adrien's birth? But then why wouldn't Fu have given the Ladybug/Cat miraculi out sooner? Unless he was waiting for news of the miraculous to be used to keep them a secret...But then why would the miraculous have been gifted in the first place? Doesn't make a lot of sense but it keeps nagging at me because of the Peafowl being dangerous, which would have killed the miraculous user/put her in comatose state.
Because butterflies are part of the Agreste brand, at least somewhat subtle-y, if we are to assume that they have BEEN in the mansion and such then he has had the miraculous for a while, before he became hawk moth.
Also lol, hawk/peacock moth/butterfly. I see...
 


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I don't think Emelie and Gabriel were involved with the Butterfly and Peacock originally being lost or stolen. When Master Fu is telling the story he says he was young and he also says that he is almost 200 years old. 

I think Emelie found the Butterfly and gave it to Gabriel as a gift though. Whenever Gabriel removes it and puts it back in the box, it looks a standard necklace/jewerly box and not the smaller Miraculous gift box that we've seen the other Miraculous items in. Also could there be another Guardian other than Master Fu that really caused the Miraculous to be lost and Master Fu got the blame?


One thing I haven't quite figured out is if Nathalie was able to use the Peacock when she was still akumatized as Catalyst. That scene goes by so quickly it's hard to tell if she changed back to normal before becoming Mayura. If she was able to transform while she was akumatized maybe the Peacock reacts/only works in response to negative emotions and that's part of the reason it drains its user.   

If Nathalie keeps using the Peacock to transform in to Mayura, won't she eventually suffer the same fate as Emelie?



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 23, 2019, 02:43:32 PM
I wish that Netflix would hurry up and put s2 on for the UK as well. Because Disney have the first rights its going to take a while but it's annoying while I'm in London and want to go check something in an episode because I have to youtube hunt for it. My digital box I can't access here, so bleh. But yeah, I remember
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Master Fu being young as well, when he made his 'mistake'.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 24, 2019, 04:55:51 AM


Season 3
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I'm not sure if it's confirmed but I saw that there may be a Season 3 episode where Hawk Moth akumatizes Cat Noir




Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 24, 2019, 05:25:02 AM



Season 3
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I'm not sure if it's confirmed but I saw that there may be a Season 3 episode where Hawk Moth akumatizes Cat Noir




Ponyfan
I do hope so...
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 24, 2019, 03:29:14 PM



Season 3
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I'm not sure if it's confirmed but I saw that there may be a Season 3 episode where Hawk Moth akumatizes Cat Noir




Ponyfan
I do hope so...

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I do too. I think it might be really interesting if it does happen.




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I've been wondering if there's a greater connection to the Agreste family with the Miraculous than we are aware of. Maybe the Agrestes are descendants of some of the ancient holders. It seems too big of a coincidence that the family holds 3 Miraculous even if Emelie and Gabriel aren't the rightful holders.   


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 24, 2019, 03:34:24 PM



Season 3
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I'm not sure if it's confirmed but I saw that there may be a Season 3 episode where Hawk Moth akumatizes Cat Noir




Ponyfan
I do hope so...

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I do too. I think it might be really interesting if it does happen.



It would seem to me to be a perfect opportunity
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for an identity reveal.
I have thought about this for a while, whether I want them to find out about each other at the same time or one first then the other. I think one at a time would be more interesting, but the big question is who should know first...

I actually also want to see Ladybug akumatised. But I know this is a plot issue with the fact she's the only one that can get rid of the akuma. Unless there's another way that could be worked in, because I find it really difficult to buy the fact that
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Marinette is not enough in control of her feelings to stop from spouting off at Lila or Chloe but is in enough control to ward off an akuma when it's right there in front of her...
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 24, 2019, 05:35:58 PM



Season 3
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I'm not sure if it's confirmed but I saw that there may be a Season 3 episode where Hawk Moth akumatizes Cat Noir




Ponyfan
I do hope so...

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I do too. I think it might be really interesting if it does happen.



It would seem to me to be a perfect opportunity
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for an identity reveal.
I have thought about this for a while, whether I want them to find out about each other at the same time or one first then the other. I think one at a time would be more interesting, but the big question is who should know first...

I actually also want to see Ladybug akumatised. But I know this is a plot issue with the fact she's the only one that can get rid of the akuma. Unless there's another way that could be worked in, because I find it really difficult to buy the fact that
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Marinette is not enough in control of her feelings to stop from spouting off at Lila or Chloe but is in enough control to ward off an akuma when it's right there in front of her...


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I think they’d be an even better team if they knew each other’s idenities and since Queen Wasp changed back in to Chole instead of Queen Bee I think an akumatized Cat Noir would turn back in to Adrien. It makes sense that Hawk Moth would target Cat Noir not realizing he’s Adrien.

I’d like to see one of them akumatized too. We’ve seen evil illusions and copies but not how they’d actually behave if they were akumatized and I think we’d see some more of Cat Noir’s anger at Ladybug’s rejections of his romantic declarations.


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The akuma scene with Marinette was a pretty big let down and seems to be in the script just to show Lila’s willing to let herself be akumatized. The fake Adrien really got me. It was so obvious that it wasn’t Adrien and it took Ladybug a long time to figure it out.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 26, 2019, 01:00:14 PM
Rewatching Season 1 has made me think about a few things. If Tiki is over 5,000 years old and Nooroo is only 3,500 years old it makes me wonder if the Miraculous were initially created when there was a problem that only someone using the Miraculous could solve.

Watching Adrien almost give himself away to Gabriel in "Simon Says" when Cat Noir knows exactly how to engage the defense system of the Agreste mansion was pretty funny. :lol:


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 26, 2019, 01:31:40 PM
Rewatching Season 1 has made me think about a few things. If Tiki is over 5,000 years old and Nooroo is only 3,500 years old it makes me wonder if the Miraculous were initially created when there was a problem that only someone using the Miraculous could solve.

Watching Adrien almost give himself away to Gabriel in "Simon Says" when Cat Noir knows exactly how to engage the defense system of the Agreste mansion was pretty funny. :lol:


Ponyfan


Well, he almost calls Gabriel father in the Collector as well...;)

And he almost gives himself away to Ladybug in I think Gorizilla when he calls her milady...something Chat Noir calls her.

But cartoon characters are often dense ;) especially in superhero secret identity contexts :D

I can't remember how old Plagg is but I am sure Tiki is older. Which would make creation older than destruction...

The Kwami are still hugely mysterious.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 27, 2019, 02:05:31 PM
Marinette as Ladybug has almost called her parents "mom and dad" a few times.

I enjoy watching Marinette and Adrien coming up with excuses why they're never around when Ladybug and Cat Noir are and Adrien has even pretended to be turned in to a kissing zombie so no one would look for him. :lol:



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I've been wondering if it's possible that the Peacock Kwami is able to leave the Miraculous due to it being damaged unlike the other Kwamis that become locked inside when their holders remove it. When we see the Peacock in The Collector it looks different than it does in Mayura.


Season 3

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It looks like Stormy Weather might return.




Ponyfan

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 29, 2019, 04:48:42 AM
Season 3

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If Nathalie has been covering for Gabriel when he's Hawkmoth I wonder if Adrien is going to start getting suspicious when Nathalie isn't around when she's Mayura and working with Hawkmoth




Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 29, 2019, 06:28:23 AM
Ughh February come on! I need those new eps.
Plagg did cause the extinction of the dinosaurs. It was not specified which extinction but I'd imagine it would be the Cretaceous-Tertiary one, so unless time is very condensed Plagg is millions of years old.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 29, 2019, 10:38:37 AM
Ughh February come on! I need those new eps.
Plagg did cause the extinction of the dinosaurs. It was not specified which extinction but I'd imagine it would be the Cretaceous-Tertiary one, so unless time is very condensed Plagg is millions of years old.

Ah. That is a good point. I forgot that. ;)
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 29, 2019, 03:26:28 PM
I like silly headcanon stuff. If Plagg preceeds cats as we know them in any form, do the kwamis change shape overtime? Or was Plagg just like, "hey these guys kind of look like me isn't that cool".
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 30, 2019, 06:58:52 AM
I just realized that US Netflix offers several language options for the episodes besides English. Maybe I should try to watch an episode in French. :) I want new episodes too but I'm afraid it will be quite while before we seem them in the US.


We know the past holders "fit in" with their time period based on the pictures we've seen in the book and the ancient Egyptian Ladybug on the papyrus scroll. Tiki looked about the same on the same scroll so I think the Kwamis have always looked the same. :)



When the "ghosts" are haunting Master Fu in the nightmares episode he firsts says "It wasn't my fault" and then "I didn't do it on purpose"


I wonder if in Season 3 we’ll see Gabriel trying to find the location of Master Fu and the other Miraculous box Kwamis?

Ponyfan











Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 30, 2019, 05:23:18 PM
I find it ironic that Tiki is on the papyrus. It shows how technology isn't always better, because Plagg makes the point that kwamis can't be filmed or photographed. BUT they can be seen and they can be drawn...;)

I need to rewatch that episode - Sandboy, right? I refer you to the odd airing schedule of S2 in the UK and it's being on my box at home ;) Still only s1 on netflix over here atm. Haven't looked at the language options...maybe I will o.O. Didn't think to check that. I've just about trained my netflix not to throw up subtitles on Japanese shows because they annoy me, but that I need them if the show is in a different language. I wonder if Miraculous in French with English subs is an option...hrm.

I quite like watching it in French. It's cute when Marinette calls Chat Noir "Chaton".
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 01, 2019, 04:48:42 AM
US Netflix has a French audio/English subtitles option. :) I think I will watch at least one episode in French,

Sandboy is the nightmare/Nooroo's birthday episode. :)  That moment with Master Fu and the ghosts makes me wonder if someone else was really behind the "mistake" and set Master Fu up to take the blame. The episode might be just teasing us but I feel that it's trying to foreshadow a few things


I find it interesting that Tiki is on the papyrus but that only Marinette was able to recongize the drawing of her even though a close up is shown in a guidebook. Isn't there an episode where Ladybug hides Adrien in the Egypt exibit? How did he not notice a Kwami on the papyrus? 

I think new episodes come out today in France. Maybe they'll be on Youtube soon.


Ponyfan

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 03, 2019, 01:44:42 PM
Something else I heard about Season 3

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We might see someone be able to combine the powers of two Kwamis/Miraculous and be able to use a combination of both powers.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on February 03, 2019, 02:22:51 PM
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They will swap miraculous items. And Marinette will use the mouse miraculous and Adrien the snake one
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 03, 2019, 08:13:57 PM
It looks like the synopsis for season 3 eps was leaked just a few days ago.
The english is a bit off, but we'll see if this is so:
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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on February 04, 2019, 01:55:58 AM
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Hrm. If those spoilers are true then Onichan is literally oni-chan and not oniichan romanised badly. I thought that it might be Luka given that he's the older brother of Juleika, but if it's actually oni-chan it suggests something more demon-related.

Ikari Gozen is also amusing :)I guess we could see it as Lady Anger? Gozen gets used as a suffix though in mediaeval Japanese texts for a lady in certain writings and contexts, and ikari means anger...I guess they're going all out on the Japanese stuff for Kagami (whose own name means mirror, which is in itself kind of interesting...)


Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 05, 2019, 01:43:55 PM
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They will swap miraculous items. And Marinette will use the mouse miraculous and Adrien the snake one


That's very interesting. :)


It looks like the synopsis for season 3 eps was leaked just a few days ago.
The english is a bit off, but we'll see if this is so:
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Those are really interesting. The only thing that doesn't make a lot of sense to me is the one with Kagami becoming jealous of Lila unless she thinks Adrien likes Lila? Also the one about someone that wants to steal time as  I thought that was already done in Timebreaker?

It sounds like we might learn more about Master Fu and his past. :)  I'm a little surprised there's no mention of Mayura in the synopsis though.





Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on February 06, 2019, 09:24:45 AM
I'm naturally wary of taking spoilers as entirely true until it comes to the point of direct confirmation by someone in charge of the show - often they contain truth mixed in with theories and fictions. I remember it used to be the case with Bleach that you'd get fake spoilers out every week before the actual manga spoilers came out (often in Japanese too) and it became an art to spot which ones were broken and which ones were not...
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I think it's already been confirmed officially that the peacock has a role to play in s3. So I would be surprised if it didn't appear. I guess we;ll wait and see - it may be that some of those spoilers are correct but omitting the bigger overriding plot themes, or it may be that some of them are guessing. I still am a little bit uncertain about onichan and whether Ikari Gozen is a real thing because it's so nuts - but who knows...
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on February 07, 2019, 12:29:35 PM
I´ve already seen the 6th from that list.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 07, 2019, 07:24:25 PM
I´ve already seen the 6th from that list.
Yes, that was the one that was released a bit ago. What was the 2nd one that was left out then...
Supposedly that list comes from a Switzerland TV station. The cast has lamented over this so that gives the leaks some sort of backbone?
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 08, 2019, 07:14:55 AM
I'm naturally wary of taking spoilers as entirely true until it comes to the point of direct confirmation by someone in charge of the show - often they contain truth mixed in with theories and fictions. I remember it used to be the case with Bleach that you'd get fake spoilers out every week before the actual manga spoilers came out (often in Japanese too) and it became an art to spot which ones were broken and which ones were not...
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I think it's already been confirmed officially that the peacock has a role to play in s3. So I would be surprised if it didn't appear. I guess we;ll wait and see - it may be that some of those spoilers are correct but omitting the bigger overriding plot themes, or it may be that some of them are guessing. I still am a little bit uncertain about onichan and whether Ikari Gozen is a real thing because it's so nuts - but who knows...


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I've also heard the peacock will return in Season 3 and Mayura will become a partner/"boss" to Hawkmoth in some way. I can see them being partners but haven't quite figured out how the peacock can make Nathalie powerful enough to become a boss to Hawkmoth unless the peacock Kwami is more powerful than the Butterfly. Also how Nathalie is going to be able to use the peacock unless she's defying Gabriel to use it or the same thing that happened to Emelie will eventually happen to Nathalie and she might not be able to stop herself from continuing to use it.  :dizzy:



I found some more Season 3 episodes synopsis that are a little different than the ones tailrustedtealeaf posted. To save space I will only list the ones for the episodes not included in the other list.



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"Animaestro" - Ladybug and Cat Noir confront a director. Transformed into "Animaestro", he wants to show the world what an animated film director is capable of.

"Party Crasher"-Ladybug and her team face Wayhem, who has become "Party Crasher".


"The Puppeteer" -Once again, Ladybug and Cat Noir face the Puppeteer

"Cat Blanc"- Ladybug confronts the last person she would have thought capable of being akumatized... Cat Noir!

"Ladybug"- Marinette gets expelled from school, but an even greater problem awaits her: she must face a nemesis in the image of... Ladybug!


"Felix"-Ladybug and Cat Noir confront Alya, Rose and Juleka, who are akumatized into a "Trio of Punishers", and Felix Adrien's cousin.

"Battle of the Miraculous" two part episode

Part 1 "Love Eater"-  Ladybug and Cat Noir confront Mr. and Mrs. Bourgeois, who have become "Loveater", a two-headed Cerberus that devours all the love in Paris.

" Part 2 Miracle Queen"- Hawk Moth akumatizes Chloe into "Miracle Queen" to implement a deadly plan




Ponyfan
 
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 08, 2019, 08:46:01 AM
The new ep is on at 5pm est. I work tonight so by the time I'm home it will have been posted online somewhere, which is sort of nice timing.
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Now that Ponyfan posted those other synopsis I'm sort of dreading the Felix episode just because no one wants to let go of him and I don't find him that interesting. Boo.
Are any other ones different?
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on February 08, 2019, 11:12:15 AM
Are there any news about the new plushies, figures and charms?
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 08, 2019, 12:49:31 PM
The new ep is on at 5pm est. I work tonight so by the time I'm home it will have been posted online somewhere, which is sort of nice timing.
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Now that Ponyfan posted those other synopsis I'm sort of dreading the Felix episode just because no one wants to let go of him and I don't find him that interesting. Boo.
Are any other ones different?


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There's a few minor variations in the words but nothing that really changes what you posted.



Are there any news about the new plushies, figures and charms?



I haven't heard anything. I'd love it if the US got some more ML stuff. :) The only things I think the US got were the Funko Pops (that I missed) some Burger King kids meal toys (that I also missed) LB and CN Halloween Costumes and a few DVDS.




Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on February 08, 2019, 01:22:04 PM
There were a couple of months here when stores were full of ML stuff. And then it all vanished. Almost overnight. Very weird :/

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 08, 2019, 07:14:27 PM
I vaguely remember my Target having some small Plagg + Tikki plush that were on clearance but that was during the season 1-2 hiatus so I was not that interested at the time. They're all gone now, although you can still find some stuff on Walmarts website? Completely clueless as to their distribution anywhere else. I sort of regret not picking up a Plagg but they have nice enough looking bootlegs on eBay.
Just watched the new episode!
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The title makes MUCH more sense in context. Christ-master. Ok. Got it.
"All your toys are belong to us" please just don't. I'm okay with Chat Noir dabbing or something but that meme is a bit past its time.
I'm still a bit amused that Santa exists in this universe. Ladybug being the best behaved kid though? What about Chat? He is an embodiment of sunshine and deserves to be on the list just as much.
They also really stretched out Ladybug's timer, huh?
It was a cute episode in all! I always hope for more lovesquare interaction but this was just a pretty amusing episode regardless.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 09, 2019, 11:19:02 AM
Walmart had a few Ladybug action figures at one point but they disappeared really quickly in my area before I even knew what this show was.

I vaguely remember my Target having some small Plagg + Tikki plush that were on clearance but that was during the season 1-2 hiatus so I was not that interested at the time. They're all gone now, although you can still find some stuff on Walmarts website? Completely clueless as to their distribution anywhere else. I sort of regret not picking up a Plagg but they have nice enough looking bootlegs on eBay.
Just watched the new episode!
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The title makes MUCH more sense in context. Christ-master. Ok. Got it.
"All your toys are belong to us" please just don't. I'm okay with Chat Noir dabbing or something but that meme is a bit past its time.
I'm still a bit amused that Santa exists in this universe. Ladybug being the best behaved kid though? What about Chat? He is an embodiment of sunshine and deserves to be on the list just as much.
They also really stretched out Ladybug's timer, huh?
It was a cute episode in all! I always hope for more lovesquare interaction but this was just a pretty amusing episode regardless.


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I'm being to wonder if the airing schedule  is out of order for Season 3 since episode 3 is a Christmas themed episode. :lol: Also so far we haven't seen Nathalie become Mayura again. I  wonder if she will only transform sometimes when she feels Hawkmoth is threatened?



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on February 10, 2019, 09:49:57 AM
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They do say it's not Christmas, though. Think of it like Frozen being in summer yet full of snow? XD

I have to say, that was complete crack. I don't know how else to decide it.

Missing - the akumatisation of Chris (doesn't really create a mystery though, just a jolt from one thing to another).

Missing - Chat's transformation (well, that's fine.)

Missing - why not ice transform on the ice, people? You are able to do that you know :P

But yeah. I didn't really like this episode. I thought Chris was a brat before he was akumatised, when he was akumatised...maybe a little less after.

And I also didn't like the best behaved kid rule and it being Ladybug. Because actually in terms of their superhero selves they're fairly equal, but in terms of their human selves, Marinette causes a lot more trouble than Adrien. This is another ep where she is responsible for the akumatisation of another character. I really need to do a tally, but I am not actually aware of Adrien alone causing an akumatisation (unless you count his Dad deliberately akumatising himself because Adrien took his book...). Maybe the bodyguard. Otherwise..? Chat and Ladybug caused the old school headmaster's akumatisation, but Adrien as himself? Has it happened?
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 10, 2019, 02:17:11 PM
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I didn't realize that they mention it's not actually Christmas in the episode. :lol:  I was just assuming it was based on the Santa Claus/Christmas presents etc... I watched this episode and I have to agree that I don't see this as an episode that I'll be rewatching a lot if at all.  The only reason I can think of for Cat Noir not being at the top of the list with Ladybug is that Santa was bound by the rules Marinette told Chris and that’s why only Ladybug was at the top but Cat Noir should have been there too.

That was a really long 5 minutes :lol:

“Weredad” has an English dub but instead of Plagg mentioning that Adrien shouldn’t worry about having 2 girls because they’re the same person he says “He doesn’t mind having 2 pots simmering on the stove especially when there's actually only one pot"? 

I've come up with these numbers for the akumazation counts.

Marinette 9

Chole (Marinette and Chole were both responsible in Kung Food) 11

Gabriel, 4

Cat Noir  5 (Cat Noir and Ladybug both responsible for Dark Owl and Queen Wasp)

Ladybug 6

Other characters 16

I agree with you Taffeta that Adrien isn't directly responsible for the akumazations, whereas Marinette either as herself or Ladybug has caused her fair share of them, usually because she's a little impulsive and doesn't always think about the consequences her words or actions will have.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 10, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
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The rule was stupid, so people think maybe it was the Santa IN the snowglobe that came out? And that's why Santa knew about the rule Marinette made up on the spot. Because he was "Santa".
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on February 11, 2019, 10:54:03 AM
I´m confused, because the bandai catolog 2018 has the new stuff, but none the stores I know have the items.
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https://www.cubosluminosos.pt/catalogos
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 11, 2019, 11:12:43 AM
Maybe the toyline kind of tanked? I'm sure I'm not the first to say that the dolls look clunky. Those little plush kwamiis are adorable though!
New episode tomorrow yay!
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 11, 2019, 06:10:39 PM
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The rule was stupid, so people think maybe it was the Santa IN the snowglobe that came out? And that's why Santa knew about the rule Marinette made up on the spot. Because he was "Santa".


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I really like that theroy and it makes sense since Marinette was holding the snowglobe when she was making up the story and rules. The rule doesn’t make any sense and taking it a step further if the rules were really how Santa operates wouldn’t everyone figure out that Marinette’s really ladybug when she’s the only person on Santa’s good list that doesn’t get a present from Santa at Christmas?
I’m caught up on Season 3. :)

 

I’m afraid that Miraculous may be one of those shows where the toy line suffers from bad timing or terrible airtimes schedules. I know in the US it’s changed TV networks at least 3 times  but at least Season 1 and 2 are on US Netflix.

Ponyfan

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 12, 2019, 03:15:55 PM
S3E4 initial reactions/rambling!
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I hate these "wrong x! oops confusion!" plotlines. That's a very crack-fic-y ending but that akuma was fun and it's nice to see the overlying plot progress in some matter, although it's small.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 13, 2019, 03:28:15 PM
S3E4 initial reactions/rambling!
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I hate these "wrong x! oops confusion!" plotlines. That's a very crack-fic-y ending but that akuma was fun and it's nice to see the overlying plot progress in some matter, although it's small.

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The most enjoyable episode for me of Season 3 so far.  :) It's nice to see something more about the major plot revealed. That has to be the closet that Adrien's been to discovering Gabriel is really Hawkmoth. I ddin't see Nathalie on the train so I'm assuming she stayed behind to manage the mansion since it seems Gabriel and Adriend were invited just because they're famous.

And now Gabriel knows that the guardian of the Miracle Box is someone named Fu but is using an alias to try to remain hidden.
 


Ponyfan



Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on February 13, 2019, 04:07:17 PM
I may have just laughed through the whole of that episode.

I have a really warped sense of humour though.
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Hawk Moth just akumatised someone from a train toilet.
Then Adrien turns into Chat in the opposite train toilet. (I wonder what the cctv on that train looks like).
And Marinette's crack backward solution to the problem was quite funny too. But I am still stuck on, Hawk Moth's first akumatisation outside of his home and it's on a train toilet.

...In other news, the advance of the plot and Fu being at risk is an interesting shift forward. I wonder whether he will continue to occasionally moonlight as Adrien's Chinese teacher. I admit, I have seriously considered for a while whether something might happen to Fu at some point...but I hoped otherwise.

Gabriel shifts between real jerk and person with emotional capacity depending on the episode...

I also agree that the mixed up x y z plotline is annoying, I don't like that much either. But I agree with Ponyfan that this is the best episode of 3 yet. The last one I was disappointed in. This one was much better. Thus far this season has been hit and miss for me. I didn't like the first (I hate Lila), liked the second (although Marinette's Dad is embarrassing), didn't like the third but this one was back on speed for me. Hopefully it continues.

And I guess, by hunting all around London pharmacies for the medicine, Adrien was distracted from Kagami...?

P.S, Eurostar trains wish they looked as smooth and pretty as that ;) Inside and out.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 13, 2019, 07:52:49 PM
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I really like the idea of Kagami getting roped into laxative-searching for Adrien. I don't know if she still cares for him in that way but it'd make for a very interesting chilled-out episode. (I love when there's like an episode of just silly).
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 14, 2019, 04:10:27 AM
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Needing privacy to transform and the only private space available being the train bathrooms was pretty funny.  :lol: How was Cat Noir able to exit and get back on the train with no one noticing? Gabriel insisting that the train not depart for England until he was feeling better suggests that Hawkmoth has to be within a certain radius of the person he wants to akumatize.


The backwards Lucky Charm solution was also pretty funny. :lol:







Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on February 14, 2019, 06:33:52 AM
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The whole sequence with Gabriel sensing the potential victim, going to the train toilet, yelling at the guard, and then transforming inside it was hilarious. I swear I had to pause the video because I was laughing so much. Just the idea of Hawk Moth standing there doing all his usual gloating INSIDE A TOILET CUBICLE was too funny. Especially at the end when you hear his cackling through the door...

And yeah, how Chat got off the train unseen is a mystery, since there would be CCTV and the guard apparently was hugging the console the whole time since he was there when both Adrien and Gabriel emerged (conveniently, at the same time)...

Good point about the radius of attack. Also the fact he can't just akumatise someone and then go back to whatever he's doing. He has to be Hawkmoth to control the akumatised person, hence the need for a long stay in the toilet.

Maybe Adrien thought that his Dad had whatever problem he thought Marinette needed medicine for, and assumed it was some kind of epidemic ;)

Incidentally, Fu healed up quite well on his own without medicine...I guess he's genuinely a bit of a hypochondriac.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 15, 2019, 07:41:36 PM
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How did no one seem to notice Hawkmoth's voice coming through the train bathroom door and it looks like everyone on the train waited patiently for the "ill passenger" to get better?   


New episode

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Lots of flashbacks/ but at least we're getting some insight into the thoughts and feelings of some of the characters and Chole has a role in this episode. I think Gabriel is dictating a letter to Kagami's mother and

We finally get some of Nathalie's thoughts. She mentions "watching Emelie falling deeper in to an endless sleep"  Also, she's showing signs of still being ill from using  the Peacock

We finally hear something from Nooroo.


It's strange we don't get to see the battle this time with Stormy Weather.

Adrien was really close to figuring out that Marinette sent him the unsigned Valentine but then thinks it must be from someone else since Marinette is "just a friend" As much as I want Adrien and Marinette to end up together instead of Adrien and Kagami or Marinette and Luka I can't be too hard on Adrien because Marinette has never told Adrien that she's in love with him and since he hasn't had all of the same experiences the others have had he probably doesn't see that Marinette's nervousness around him is because of her feelings.





Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on February 15, 2019, 10:57:34 PM
I feel like that was the real first ep of this season.
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Not least because I think the first ever episode was, officially, Stormy Weather.

It was an interesting episode. The battle aspects were ridiculous but I like people's inner thoughts.

Kind of want to shake Adrien for being dumb.

Chloe's back. No Lila. Aurora randomly now attending their school? Since when did that happen? And why do Lila and Chloe not appear on screen together? Too much snark for one kids' show?

Also this reminded me how everyone knows each other's identities but not Ladybug or Chat's. Also what Chloe said at the beginning about Alya not even knowing who Ladybug was, that was kind of weird. I mean she doesn't know either. I realise Alya has her blog...but still? And Alya is smart, surely she should have figured it out by now, given that all the other people who've held miraculouses are in Marinette's social sphere?

The ep seemed to end abruptly, and I think the hyped up super powered Stormy Weather and the complete anticlimax of her defeat was a bit random and silly to be honest. Obviously the point of the ep is to peer into the minds of people.

Emilie isn't dead. Just sleeping. Well that makes sense.

Nathalie is clearly affected by Mayura as well. I think its interesting that bad stuff surrounds that miraculous...

Nooroo and Gabriel's relationship shifted again, to Nooroo trying to reason with Gabriel. As mean as Gabriel can be to Nooroo, I still feel Nooroo puts up with it because he feels bad for Gabriel and understands how much Gabriel is hurting. Both Gabriel and Nathalie put into context in this episode that Gabriel is entirely motivated by his family. And even Gabriel has doubts about it...

Plagg's analogy of Gabriel = cheese was quite funny too.

It made me wonder though, how come Plagg doesn't sense Nooroo and vice versa? Shouldn't they realise they're in close proximity? Maybe not? I dunno, its the first time it's occurred to me that way...
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 16, 2019, 12:32:29 PM
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I also liked knowing the character's inner thoughts. :) I think I saw Aurora in the background in one of the last Season 2 episodes so maybe she transferred to the school at some point but in the original Stormy Weather episode Ladybug and Cat Noir seemed to know Aurora only from the TV competition.

I have a feeling that even though the first episode of the season was all about Lila attending the school and threatening Marinette that we might not see her again until closer to the end of the season.


Chole's speech at the beginning was a little weird especially when she keeps telling Aurora "once a villain, always a villain" when I think everyone except Marinette and Adrien have been akumatized at some point.  If Alya could figure out that Nino was Carapace when she first saw him then she probably suspects that Marinette is Ladybug but maybe she has a hard time making the connection because she can see Marinette's flaws and has a hard time reconciling that with the "perfect Ladybug" (although Marinette as Ladybug does make mistakes) that she admires so much.


It's interesting that Stormy Weather was more powerful this time. It makes me wonder if all re-akumatized villains will have more power? 


Nathalie's in love with Gabriel but I don't think he realizes it. If Nathalie is still ill from using the Peacock but managing to hide it pretty well from Gabriel and Adrien, I assume she will get sicker each time she transforms in to Mayura? I was wondering how Nathalie would have the opportunity to get the Peacock out of the safe without Gabriel realizing it, but the trip to London gave her the chance to do so. I think she might be wearing the Peacock under her jacket where Gabriel can't see it.


It's interesting that Nooroo mentioned that Gabriel trying to get the Miraculouses and making his wish might make him lose Adrien. I think Nooroo sees the real Gabriel, the one that Nathalie also sees.


Something I've noticed is that the kwamiis seem to be aware of everything their owners do and say when transformed. Plagg mentions that Cat Noir said some really mean things to Ladybug in Dark Cupid after he got hit with the arrow and Tiki mentions Ladybug using Lucky Charm foolishly in The Bubbler.


I don't think the kwamis can sense each other even if they're in the same area. Otherwise I think Plagg would tell Fu that he knows where Hawkmoth and Nooroo are. Plagg also didn't seem to notice or recognize the Peacock Miraculous when he was inside the safe and Tiki and Plagg didn't seem to be aware of the identity of the other's owner until Dark Owl.




Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on February 18, 2019, 04:49:27 AM
Is there any website to watch the subbed version?
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 18, 2019, 01:15:25 PM
Is there any website to watch the subbed version?


I've been watching the dubbed versions on Youtube. Sometimes the subbed versions are on there too but it seems like there aren't as many subbed videos for the latest episode.



Ponyfan





 
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on February 18, 2019, 01:19:47 PM
Is there any website to watch the subbed version?


I've been watching the dubbed versions on Youtube. Sometimes the subbed versions are on there too but it seems like there aren't as many subbed videos for the latest episode.



Ponyfan





 

I think the newer eps aired in English in Canada. Whereas some of the previous aired in French in Switzerland. I think it depends where it aired first as to what language appears on YT and how fast.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 18, 2019, 01:21:43 PM
Kimcartoon may have the subbed version, but take usual precautions with such a site.
I didn't say my piece on the new episode:
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I liked it but too many flashbacks. Seriously. I skipped ahead a lot during the flashbacks.
I did like Adrien starting to piece things together but I wanted to scream.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 18, 2019, 03:29:39 PM
Is there any website to watch the subbed version?


I've been watching the dubbed versions on Youtube. Sometimes the subbed versions are on there too but it seems like there aren't as many subbed videos for the latest episode.



Ponyfan





 

I think the newer eps aired in English in Canada. Whereas some of the previous aired in French in Switzerland. I think it depends where it aired first as to what language appears on YT and how fast.



That makes sense. I forgot that the first few episodes aired in Switzerland first.



Kimcartoon may have the subbed version, but take usual precautions with such a site.
I didn't say my piece on the new episode:
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I liked it but too many flashbacks. Seriously. I skipped ahead a lot during the flashbacks.
I did like Adrien starting to piece things together but I wanted to scream.

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I enjoyed hearing the characters inner thoughts but I agree that the flashbacks got a little old with so many in the same episode.

Did anyone else noticed that even when Nathalie had that coughing spell, she still held the clipboard up to Gabriel showing him she'd fnished everything he dictated so far?

I don't think Marinette or Adrien will figure out each other idenities for a while yet no matter how much the episodes tease us that they will. although if Cat Noir is akumatized in to Cat Blanc in Season 3 I'm not sure if he'll transform back in to Cat Noir or Adrien?


How is Gabriel the only character that has noticed Adrien always wears a silver ring?  Wouldn't Nino notice it also?





Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on February 19, 2019, 01:51:50 PM
There is a website named Miraculoussubs, but they do take a long time to sub. I´ve found weredad episode on yt, but I prefer the french version. I can´t even find a decent facebook fan group.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 19, 2019, 04:32:02 PM
Although I find it hard to read subtitles for an entire episode, sometimes I will watch a scene in French with English subtitles. I've noticed that sometimes the dialogue is slightly different in French than it is in the English dub.

Does anyone know when the next new episode airs?

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on February 20, 2019, 11:22:02 AM
There is a website named Miraculoussubs, but they do take a long time to sub. I´ve found weredad episode on yt, but I prefer the french version. I can´t even find a decent facebook fan group.

Papa Garou has clearly been taken down then, as I watched that one originally in French before the English one was there :/ I guess it's an imperfect science.

The dialogue is subtly different in all translations. One reason I watch anime in Japanese (among many) is to get the real dialogue, not the approximation through someone else's eyes. My french is not colloquial enough to do that with ML, but I do like watching some eps in both languages to see the nuances. I am still annoyed that I had to get the US dvd for S1 because the UK one was only in English.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on February 21, 2019, 05:23:59 AM
Those  :biggrin:
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https://www.amazon.com/PAPWELL-Set-Miraculous-Ladybug-Toys/dp/B07N2KMXS4/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?keywords=Rena+Rouge&pd_rd_i=B07N2KMXS4&pd_rd_r=e95a8d94-188b-49bf-8cc8-da2327fabd25&pd_rd_w=btyAb&pd_rd_wg=vVtcf&pf_rd_p=5c5ea0d7-2437-4d8a-88a7-ea6f32aeac11&pf_rd_r=GYD3S15QSE4SFEFMJJ9W&qid=1550755191&s=gateway
Forgot to post the charms
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https://aminoapps.com/c/ladybugoficial/page/blog/lucky-charms-collection/5Vwn_MDcVu0ZBd8mPmglRZrlL7k8zKEEN5
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 21, 2019, 08:08:25 AM


The dialogue is subtly different in all translations. One reason I watch anime in Japanese (among many) is to get the real dialogue, not the approximation through someone else's eyes. My french is not colloquial enough to do that with ML, but I do like watching some eps in both languages to see the nuances. I am still annoyed that I had to get the US dvd for S1 because the UK one was only in English.



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One place where I really noticed the dialogue being different between the English and French versions was where Plagg said in Weredad that he knew Ladybug and Marinette are the same person. In the English dub he starts talking about having two pots on the stove but they're both the same pot. Since I saw the French version with English subtitles first it seems a bit of an awkward dialogue change.





Those  :biggrin:
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https://www.amazon.com/PAPWELL-Set-Miraculous-Ladybug-Toys/dp/B07N2KMXS4/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?keywords=Rena+Rouge&pd_rd_i=B07N2KMXS4&pd_rd_r=e95a8d94-188b-49bf-8cc8-da2327fabd25&pd_rd_w=btyAb&pd_rd_wg=vVtcf&pf_rd_p=5c5ea0d7-2437-4d8a-88a7-ea6f32aeac11&pf_rd_r=GYD3S15QSE4SFEFMJJ9W&qid=1550755191&s=gateway
Forgot to post the charms
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https://aminoapps.com/c/ladybugoficial/page/blog/lucky-charms-collection/5Vwn_MDcVu0ZBd8mPmglRZrlL7k8zKEEN5





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That figurine set is interesting. I understand Marinette as the black cat but they all look like Marinette to me. :lol: Also the Peacock kwami looks kind of strange.





Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on February 23, 2019, 12:00:41 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/mlbspoilers/p/BuOk7lRlXf5/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=13oc1orv8lffx&fbclid=IwAR192XecMOzmy7zYEYNnMiIRAMjm9AYV7YxxdN2IryLKqnDP1IZzj_FU5CE
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 24, 2019, 11:37:31 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/mlbspoilers/p/BuOk7lRlXf5/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=13oc1orv8lffx&fbclid=IwAR192XecMOzmy7zYEYNnMiIRAMjm9AYV7YxxdN2IryLKqnDP1IZzj_FU5CE


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Those are very interesting. It it confirmed that Kwami swapped Adrien will be called Mister Bug?




Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on February 25, 2019, 09:21:35 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/mlbspoilers/p/BuOk7lRlXf5/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=13oc1orv8lffx&fbclid=IwAR192XecMOzmy7zYEYNnMiIRAMjm9AYV7YxxdN2IryLKqnDP1IZzj_FU5CE


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Those are very interesting. It it confirmed that Kwami swapped Adrien will be called Mister Bug?




Ponyfan
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I haven't read the overall link, but I still have to wonder how they can swap kwami without knowing each other's identities...
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 25, 2019, 01:34:21 PM
Spoiler
https://www.instagram.com/mlbspoilers/p/BuOk7lRlXf5/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=13oc1orv8lffx&fbclid=IwAR192XecMOzmy7zYEYNnMiIRAMjm9AYV7YxxdN2IryLKqnDP1IZzj_FU5CE


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Those are very interesting. It it confirmed that Kwami swapped Adrien will be called Mister Bug?




Ponyfan
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I haven't read the overall link, but I still have to wonder how they can swap kwami without knowing each other's identities...

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I think it might be possible for them to swap kwamis without finding out each other’s idenity if they somehow forget that they are Ladybug and Cat Noir. If Tiki and Plagg couldn’t remind them of their  hero forms than maybe Master Fu would suggest that Tiki go to Adrien and Plagg to Marinette and they become the opposite of their usual selves but when everything is fixed they forget about the other’s kwami helping them.

I’m just guessing though. :)


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 02, 2019, 10:47:11 AM
Does anyone know why the episodes after Stormy Weather 2 keep getting delayed?


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on March 02, 2019, 10:51:39 AM
Does anyone know why the episodes after Stormy Weather 2 keep getting delayed?


Ponyfan

This happened a lot in S2 as well. No idea why it happens, we kind of just end up living with it O.o.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 06, 2019, 01:53:58 PM
Hopefully the new episodes will resume again soon. :)

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 12, 2019, 01:46:29 PM
New episode Aniemastro

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I really liked this one.  :) The akumatized villain is a lot of fun and watching him transform into different animated characters added was interesting.

I'm surprised that Marinette was willing to team up with Chole just to stop Adrien from getting closer to Kagami but at least she did realize that trying to embarrass Kagami in front of everyone wasn't a good plan.


There's been several mentions now about Kagami's mother and Gabriel planning something involving Adrien and Kagami.  Marinette and Chole seem to think that it might be some kind of arranaged  dating partnership between them but I have a feeling that it might be something small that Marinette and Chole have made bigger in their imaginations due to their feelings for Adrien.


Chole surprised me when she said that she wouldn't tell Adrien Marinette has a crush on him because Marinette was worthless and not worthy of Adrien's attention in Chole's eyes.


Is Gabriel getting a little overconfident that no one except Nathalie knows he's Hawkmoth? Detransforming outside of his lair (even though everyone else was at the movie premiere) and then talking to himself in the street about Ladybug and Cat Noir's defeat when other people could walk by and hear him seems a little risky.



Ponyfan


Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 12, 2019, 03:12:37 PM
Thanks for the post, Ponyfan, I had no clue when the next episode was due.  :P
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The akumatized villain was fun but it was a bit weird to me because I know that Astruc is also the creator.
I actually really like Kagami now because she was so forceful towards Chloe. I really hope Kagami doesn't end up being a villain in the future because I feel like she would be a good ally for the team, and it'd be neat to see how her "no hesitation" takes her into saving Paris. I wish she and Marinette would just be friends, I don't like all of this love triangle/square/pentagram between the girls and Adrien. At least with the LadyChatAdriNette square it's not as fight-y.
Adrien said he's more of a dog person...wonder how Plagg took to that. Also, voicing your alter ego in a movie? Is that really the best move?
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 13, 2019, 08:52:45 AM
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I think Kagami might be a character that we are meant to see as a threat to Marinette and Adrien becoming a couple but although Kagami seems to have a crush on Adrien also and enjoys spending time with him I haven't seen her trying to force Adrien to like her/spend time with her. It seems that Gabriel and Kagami's mom think Adrien and Kagami's mom are the ones that are working things out so Kagami usually accompanies Adrien to events. 


Gabriel might have "requested" Adrien voice Cat Noir in the movie and Adrien felt compelled to do it. It does seem risky but maybe Adrien is sure that no one would think twice about him voicing an animated character. His voice changes slightly when he's Cat Noir so if he just used his normal voice maybe he feels safe?


Also where is Plagg? I didn't see him in this episode? 





Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on March 14, 2019, 12:38:57 PM
I'm gonna try and catch up with that this weekend, probably. It's been a crazy week.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on March 15, 2019, 06:46:53 AM
Spoiler
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=682252185527682&set=a.441569392929297&type=3&theater
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 18, 2019, 03:07:04 PM
Spoiler
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=682252185527682&set=a.441569392929297&type=3&theater


The link isn't working for me. Can you tell us what it was?


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on March 18, 2019, 03:23:52 PM
Finally got around to watching Animaestro.

So 2 minutes in and I'm like

Spoiler
Wait a minute. A few eps ago she convinced her family she was in love with CN and her Dad went crazy over it and now they all know she is in love with Adrien? Do they think she's shallow or is the continuity that bad??

Four minutes in and I'm like...

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Thomas Astruc? Seriously? XD

Six minutes in and I'm like...

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Adrien doesn't need a Chinese teacher. He needs a Japanese teacher. That pronunciation was horrible. And then Gabriel made arigatou sound like a type of cake. I guess the Tsurugi family are really polite o.o.

On another note, that stamp of Tsurugi-san's doesn't say Tsurugi. Pretty sure at this point it says woman, which seems an odd choice...? Esp. since the characters on the kwami box are accurate for miracle - did someone just have a spasm this episode?

So yeah. Overall.

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They clearly had so much fun with this episode. I actually don't think Marinette & Chloe teaming up is surprising. They have moved closer to that with Queen Bee...but also Marinette is not perfect and can be manipulated by her emotions.

The dinosaur XDXDXD

So transforming into Ladybug also means having your hair restyled. Good to know.

Wow, Gabriel has got really reckless o.O. Running through the streets yelling no? That beats the train toilet!

It was a fun episode though :D

Now for ep 7...Oblivio...

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Oh boy. I already love this episode.
Although I see toilets are going to be an ongoing theme of this season.

Marinette "the good news is...the bad news is..." <3.

Even though it was predictable how it ended up, I still really like it. It feels like a prequel for what will eventually (after much more drama) happen. Also we learned something new about akumatising, although I admit I don't really believe the premise behind Oblivio. Not that I am complaining. This is my favourite ep of season 3 so far.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 18, 2019, 04:50:56 PM
Oblivio...
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That was so cute!! I really like the break in structure, too. It's sad all that development technically never happened, but it was a really fun episode! My favorite so far!
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 19, 2019, 02:10:23 PM
Finally got around to watching Animaestro.



So yeah. Overall.

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They clearly had so much fun with this episode. I actually don't think Marinette & Chloe teaming up is surprising. They have moved closer to that with Queen Bee...but also Marinette is not perfect and can be manipulated by her emotions.

The dinosaur XDXDXD

So transforming into Ladybug also means having your hair restyled. Good to know.

Wow, Gabriel has got really reckless o.O. Running through the streets yelling no? That beats the train toilet!

It was a fun episode though :D


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I couldn’t believe Gabriel did that either. I wonder if we’ll see him getting even more reckless as the season goes on.

Oblivio

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I also loved this episode. I think it’s my favorite  episode so far. :lovey: I like how it highlighted how well Marinette and Adrien can work together without being Ladybug and Cat Noir and seeing them interact without Marinette getting nervous was great.
I was surprised that Tiki and Plagg also lost their memories as I figured they would be the ones trying to get Marinette and Adrien to remember who they were.

I think even thought they forgot everything that happened that their true feelings for each other will resurface again.

Marinette calling Master Fu “Mister Turtle” was funny. :lol:

I’m not sure why we’re seeing so many toilet scenes this season :lol:




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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on March 19, 2019, 05:45:27 PM
Spoiler
Some other things that just occurred...

Hawkmoth saying that their secret love will be their downfall. Is he going to use that knowledge in future attacks on them? I guess he knows because of the not so subtle kiss that Alya not so subtly posted up everywhere, but anyhow...

Also, Adrien's box costume. That tickled me. When I was four I had a costume like that, a cat costume, made out of cardboard boxes for a playschool party. So amused me.

With that, though, for the first time in this ep both Marinette without transforming and Adrien did the "seeing meaningful objects" thing.

I'm not sure whether they've said their skill names without them automatically releasing in the past, too. I feel like they have, but maybe not...?
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on March 20, 2019, 05:28:15 AM
They were pics of backpacks with their symbols.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 20, 2019, 06:58:27 AM
They were pics of backpacks with their symbols.

I'm sorry that I didn't get to see them. They sound really cute. I've noticed Hot Topic is carrying some Miraculous items online but from the reviews the quality is really bad on most of them.


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Some other things that just occurred...

Hawkmoth saying that their secret love will be their downfall. Is he going to use that knowledge in future attacks on them? I guess he knows because of the not so subtle kiss that Alya not so subtly posted up everywhere, but anyhow...

Also, Adrien's box costume. That tickled me. When I was four I had a costume like that, a cat costume, made out of cardboard boxes for a playschool party. So amused me.

With that, though, for the first time in this ep both Marinette without transforming and Adrien did the "seeing meaningful objects" thing.

I'm not sure whether they've said their skill names without them automatically releasing in the past, too. I feel like they have, but maybe not...?


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It did seem like Hawkmoth was more aware of Ladybug and Cat Noir's feelings for each other in this episode than usual. He must have known when he saw the picture Alya posted that their memories will still erased at that point. I think this is the first time that the magic ladybugs haven't been used immediately after defeating an akumatized villain. It's also the first time we've seen two people be akumatized in to one villain.

I loved Adrien's  box costume too. :) Even without his super powers he still wanted to help Marinette.  Gabriel is getting closer to finding out Adrien is Cat Noir At this point I'm not sure how Cat Blanc can end without Gabriel finding out but there'll probably be some kind of twist that will keep Adrien's identity secret from Gabriel a little longer.


I've been wondering how Adrien hasn't figured out that Gabriel never answers his phone when there's an akumatized villain around. I know Gabriel is pretty distant to Adrien and Adrien is used to his father being too busy to talk to him but wouldn't Adrien begin to see a pattern?

I don't remember if they've said Lucky Charm or Cataclysm without it automatically summoning their power before either but that would tie in to the idea that once they've said it, it can't be reversed.


Also Marinette and Adrien struggling so hard to open the elevator and Tiki and Plagg just fly out  and Tiki presses the button to open the door. :lol:





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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on March 23, 2019, 12:26:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-7WTYs6AYg&feature=share
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 23, 2019, 04:04:59 PM
I loved the video. I wish I was that talented.



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 02, 2019, 03:44:41 PM
It looks like the next new episode will be "Silencer" instead of "Bakerix"



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 07, 2019, 07:25:10 PM
A new episode is up "Silencer"



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 08, 2019, 10:10:25 AM
It's a Luka one right? Maybe I'll watch it w subtitles at school tomorrow. Im hoping for something with character development...
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 08, 2019, 03:34:16 PM
Yes, it's a Luka episode. I'm hoping to get a chance to watch it later this week.



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on April 08, 2019, 04:21:23 PM
I watched it in French. Didn't see an English sub version, so I probably came away with about 85% of what was going on. At least, the following...

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Don't like the Luka Marinette pairing. I like Luka, but no thank you. Definitely two declarations of love, but Marinette should be more bothered than happy if she really is in love with Adrien. From Oblivio to this one seems a bit odd...

I think I got one of the french jokes - langues aux chats...

Rose should not sing. Ever. Please. No.

XY was a waste of space character in his previous outing. Now again. But the cardboard outfit look is kind of catching on, like the toilet theme (yes, she hides in a toilet, again...). And Adrien was in a cardboard kitty suit last week. Now XY is in one...

Otherwise the overall story was kind of predictable and somehow lacking somewhere? Maybe I missed the key points but while Silencer's abilities were interesting, it just seemed...too easy?

Ladybug and Chat's text conversations were amusing though...

Will probably watch it again when there's an English version to fill in the gaps.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 10, 2019, 10:03:53 AM
I didn't realize that an English version isn't posted yet. Some of the one on YouTube that claim to be the English dub are really the French version. I guess I'll have to wait a little longer to watch this one.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 11, 2019, 12:19:50 PM
I just saw that Disney Channel in the US is airing Miraculous Ladybug. :cheer: :cheer: The episode that was on  today was a Season 1 episode but I'm so happy to see it's on TV. I hope this doesn't mean that Netflix will stop streaming the episodes.




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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on April 11, 2019, 12:31:14 PM
I just saw that Disney Channel in the US is airing Miraculous Ladybug. :cheer: :cheer: The episode that was on  today was a Season 1 episode but I'm so happy to see it's on TV. I hope this doesn't mean that Netflix will stop streaming the episodes.




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If Disney is airing them it means you'll be stuck in the limbo we are with Netflix not getting any new episodes -.- forever. UK Netflix still only has S1.

S3 is airing on Disney here now but in a funny order?

According to my digital box the eps aired this past week like this...(season numbers as given by Disney/my digital box)
6th April: Chris Master (S3 E3)
7th April: Animaestro (S3 E6)
8th April: Chameleon (S3 E1)
9th April: Backwarder (S3 E4)
10th April: Weredad (S3 E2)

I am not sure what might be considered S3 E5 right now.

That airing order says a lot about the confusion regarding how these eps are meant to air. Just to add to that, it's numbering Oblivio as S3 E12, but that is airing now on Saturday morning...?
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 11, 2019, 03:55:23 PM
Now I'm a little less excited that Disney is airing them in the US.   :yikes:  I'm glad the Season 3 episodes are starting to air in the UK. I'm not sure but I think only Season 1 has aired in the US on TV and Netflix had exclusive rights to Season 2 but that might have changed now that Disney has US TV rights also.


I will have to double check  Disney's episodes here but I think they are also airing Season 1 out of order.

So far I haven't seen anything in the Season 3 episodes that would indicate a different order than what you've listed for episode numbers (even though Disney is airing them out of order) I think episode 5 is Stormy Weather 2. I wonder if Disney will skip that one since it's a lot of flashbacks?



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on April 11, 2019, 04:08:47 PM
Ah, Stormy Weather II! I had forgotten that one :)
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 11, 2019, 06:32:02 PM
I'm good pals with someone who is ALL OVER cartoon airings in the USA and internationally, I'll bug them to see if she's heard anything about Netflix dropping the rights.
Haven't gotten to the new episode yet...maybe Saturday? I'm not all that interested.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on April 12, 2019, 08:26:22 AM
Oh, I forgot to mention, my local Smyths had ML toys for the first time in over a year this week. They were just action figures of Marinette, Adrien, Ladybug and CN, but still. That's more than they've had in a long while.

Ironically right next to the ponies. Well, that's convenient...

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 12, 2019, 03:03:53 PM
I looked more closely at the US Disney Channel episodes and they are airing them in random order except for the Origins 2 part episode. It will be interesting to see if Netflix keeps the streaming rights but I fear it will be as Taffeta says and it will be a long, long time before the US will officially  see the Season 3 episodes on Netflix(or maybe Disney?)


Those backpacks are really cute and it's good to hear that ML stuff is starting to show up again. That gives me hope that we might see some of the stuff return in the US as well.  :)

I haven't watched "Silencer" yet either.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 12, 2019, 06:30:41 PM
My friend says that it's likely that Netflix will stop hosting it for season 4 due to inconsistent airing schedules, but still does have the season 3 rights.
I saw a little puzzle in a dollar tree a week ago. That was the first ML merch I have seen.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 12, 2019, 07:27:01 PM
That makes sense. I'll have to see if I can find that ML puzzle. I haven't had good luck at Dollar Tree lately finding anything worthwhile.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on April 13, 2019, 12:02:11 AM
Maybe the US Disney licence is different from the UK. Here they have priority so it has to air thoroughly on Disney before it ends up anywhere else. When s1 eps began appearing on Pop...I think Pop, not Tiny Pop...they also appeared on Netflix. Disney aired S2 and is now airing S3. Plus plentiful reruns of S1 and S2. So basically they get it first and still replay all eps, although S1 is now all on Netflix and has aired on Pop.

For a while they removed half of S1 here as well, but it is back now. The Christmas ep which is officially the start of S2 has not appeared on Netflix but I think it has aired on Pop.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 13, 2019, 03:42:24 PM
I tried watching "Silencer" with the French dialogue and English subtitles but had a hard time keeping up as the subtitles didn't seem to be in sync with the dialogue so I guess I will have to wait for the English dub.

I know Miraculous was airing in the US last year in a cartoon block called KidsClick on some stations but I just found out that KidsClick suddenly ended on March 31st. I bet that's why Disney Channel is now airing them in the US.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 14, 2019, 02:03:37 PM
I love the detail on that Carapace figurine. Are there Ladybug and Cat Noir ones also?

Disney Channel in the US is also airing Season 2 episodes.

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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 01, 2019, 07:05:39 PM
Has anyone noticed any new Season 3 episodes being released? They seemed to have stopped after "Silencer"


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 01, 2019, 07:28:29 PM
I think nothings out of the ordinary. Typical Zagtoons stuff.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 03, 2019, 08:13:08 AM
I didn't realize this is typical for Zagtoons. I guess I was more fortunate than I realized when I had over 30 episodes of Miraculous to choose from on Netflix. :) I don't think "Silencer" has an English dub yet.

I was rewatching "Gorzilla" yesterday and noticed something I hadn't before but no I can't remember what it was. :silly:



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on May 03, 2019, 10:25:51 AM
Yeah, airing schedule for S2 was crazy like this too.

When I was home over Easter my box recorded all the eps up to Oblivio in English (also, the English version of that on Youtube, when I watched it, it jumped in the middle like something had been cut out. I dunno if you guys watched the same version, but it's when

Spoiler
they're watching film of their fight trying to figure out what went wrong, and for some reason in the version I watched on YT, Adrien's comment about them not really looking like much of a couple and Marinette's reply that they probably just had a fight or something was missing. I wonder if that was just accidental on the part of the upload...

No other new eps were on the schedule to air soon so I think you're right about Silencer. I am not really keen on that episode tbh. It's a bit generic.

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 03, 2019, 11:09:33 AM
We must have watched the same video on Youtube Taffeta as those lines were missing from the version I watched also.  I also noticed with the YouTube video

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When Plagg returns to Adrien and  Adrien calls him by name it jumps to the CN transformation sequence without Adrien saying “Claws out”



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on May 03, 2019, 01:54:29 PM
We must have watched the same video on Youtube Taffeta as those lines were missing from the version I watched also.  I also noticed with the YouTube video

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When Plagg returns to Adrien and  Adrien calls him by name it jumps to the CN transformation sequence without Adrien saying “Claws out”



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Right. I didn't imagine it then. When I watched it of Disney I was like, huh? I don't remember that line...?
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 03, 2019, 02:04:31 PM
Silencer is not rewatchable for me. It's cute, but it's just not all that interesting. At least the Lukanette shippers can enjoy something before the ship is crushed.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on May 03, 2019, 02:11:16 PM
Silencer is not rewatchable for me. It's cute, but it's just not all that interesting. At least the Lukanette shippers can enjoy something before the ship is crushed.

This is how I feel too.

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 03, 2019, 03:30:56 PM
I still haven't seen Silencer since the English dub hasn't been released yet and trying to watch it in French with English subtitles was difficult for me because the subtitles went too fast for me to be able to focus on the episode and read at the same time, but based on your reactions to it, I don't think I'm missing much.

It looks like a few of the episodes summaries have new updates/descriptions including "Onichan", "Miraculer" and "Miracle Queen"

Regarding Onichan
Spoiler

How can Kagami be jealous of Lila? I can understand  Kagami being jealous of Marinette but has Kagami even met Lila?

I still want to know what Gabriel is planning with Kagami's mother.




I can't wait for the Cat Blanc episode.



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 13, 2019, 09:38:12 AM
It looks like Onichan has aired in French.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 13, 2019, 10:14:13 AM
 Reminds me I watched both Onichan and Bakerix in French with subtitles.
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I really wish there was less of the girls fighting over Adrien. Kagami and Marinette team up when?
Maybe Lila will get the peacock miraculous because Gabriel cares about Nathalie and doesn't want her hurt?
Bakerix was alright. Not much to say on that one.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on May 13, 2019, 10:43:30 AM
It looks like Onichan has aired in French.


Ponyfan

I just watched Onichan thanks to this tip :)



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Definitely Oni-chan not Oniichan despite the subs xD  She's definitely an oni, it's nothing to do with anyone's older brother.
 
So there are a lot of things that I really shouldn't like about this ep, because I hate Lila, and I'm not a huge fan of Kagami/Adrien shipping either...but there were some really funny bits.

That poor fireman has had a confusing day. And he's so going to get into trouble if he's not careful xD.

Also, Adrien as Cat Noir being rejected by Kagami as Oni-chan while she is declaring her love for Adrien which feels to me like a first time confession...amused me.

I don't really understand why it has to be oni-chan though. She's not particularly endearing or sweet :)

Lila bleh. Gabriel in cahoots with Lila, bleh. Adrien finally putting his foot down, great, but it doesn't look like it's going to have much positive outcome.

I just dislike Lila though. She's my least preferred character. I'd even rather have Chloe. And she is not ever going to get Adrien. And it's a bit repetitive that she wants to.

If Gabriel gave Lila the peacock then he'd also have to reveal himself somewhere along the line, or encounter her as Hawk Moth, which nobody has done in person except those who know (Nathalie). Giving her the peacock now we know it's harmful also gives the subtext that he's fine sacrificing a child (admittedly a very annoying child). Not sure if the show would want to go there, so maybe he has another plan.

Am I crazy or had he moved the coffin by the way? What was he doing doen there when he realised Lila was there? And seriously, she sent that picture to Adrien's Dad?!


Haven't looked for Bakerix yet.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 13, 2019, 01:09:59 PM
I also watched it in French with English subtitles. The subtitles were slow enough that I could read them.

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I'm also not a fan of Lila but overall it was an enjoyable episode.  :) Cat Noir saying that he's much better than Adrien and being rejected by Oni-chan and falling in to an Adrien the Fragrance poster was funny.


Lila not realizing she had a giant horn on her head and wondering why people were reacting to her strangely when she was trying to run away from Oni-chan. :lol:

I'm not sure what Gabriel's plan is for collaborating with Lila. I also feel that he's not going to give the Peacock to Lila willingly. I wouldn't put it past her to steal it and use it though if she discovers it. We still haven't seen Nathalie transform into Mayura again which makes me wonder if she's still holding the Peacock or if Gabriel has hidden it somewhere that he thinks Nathalie won't look.

I think Lila actually texted the photo to Adrien but Gabriel had Adrien's phone at the moment she sent the photo.


I also think the coffin has moved. Here's a screenshot of Gabriel from Mayura talking to Emelie and one from Oni-chan, Maybe Gabriel is getting more confident that he will get the Miraculous?


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on May 14, 2019, 12:59:15 PM
I just watched Bakerix...

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It's not an exceptional episode but I have to admit Grandpa Dupain having a tantrum about tomato sauce on bread is very amusing in French xD

It's also a nice kind of background family detail episode? Although that is a stupid reason to fall out with your son and I don't really see why members of the family couldn't just tell Marinette that.

Also weird about the train. I mean, I get it was a new train design on an old existing route, but...Grandpa Dupain hasn't gone out much in 20 years. The Eurostar and the Channel Tunnel began longer ago than that I'm pretty sure...and as for Tikki not really knowing about it, didn't they already jump a train to give the wrong cookies or something to Adrien? Didn't she pay attention or was she asleep in Marinette's bag at this point?? (The ep where Gabriel spends most of it in the toilet ranting and raving as Hawkmoth)
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 16, 2019, 07:10:34 PM
I will have to watch Bakerix. It looks likes there's an English version for it now. :)

Also Miraculer has aired. I will try to watch it this weekend. Edit I just watched it.


I  Just watched Miraculer.


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I enjoyed it overall.  :) Now we know the danger Chole put herself in by showing off the Bee Miraculous in "Queen Wasp". It was also interesting to see how Cat Noir and Plagg were affected by Miraculer using Cataclysm on CN and when he detrasnformed back in to Adrien  he was still injured.


What happened to Gabriel warning Nathalie not to use the Peacock again because it was damaged? It looks like she transformed into Mayura with his consent (although the Kwami or transformation sequence wasn't shown) I know Gabriel is desperate to revive Emelie but is he really willing to allow Nathalie to suffer the same fate?


I loved the part where Adrien's bodyguard carried Adrien into his room. :lol:

Chole actually impressed me in this episode, refusing to let the akuma control her and also refusing to join Hawkmoth even though Mayura promised her she could transform in to Queen Bee whenever she wanted to.

Also Nathalie and Gabriel seem to be a little careless in this episode after they detransformed and were talking about their plan. I'm assuming they thought Adrien was in his room and the bodyguard outside but how could they be sure they wouldn't be overheard?





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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 18, 2019, 10:38:18 AM
Has anyone else watched "Miraculer" yet?



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 18, 2019, 03:06:38 PM
I saw Miraculer when it came out and forgot to write up on it? Shoot. I also saw Timetagger in French this morning without subbies, I guess they should be up now since that was HOURS ago.
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I really enjoyed seeing that Chloe was able to not succumb to the akuma. That's really cool of her. I understand that they may not develop her further but it seems like she's grown since the start of the series, which is great. I can't shake the feeling that her ripping the picture of Ladybug at the end may be the start of something else, though...
Mayura appearing was confusing, but I know that they've been airing the episodes a bit out of order, so I hope whatever was up with that will clear itself up once another episode comes up that was supposed to show up earlier.
I need to eat dinner and watch Timetagger again, so BRB.  :work:
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 20, 2019, 07:09:33 AM
Miraculer

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I forgot that the episodes might be out of order. It definitely feels like something important was skipped/not shown regarding Mayura and Nathalie. I also think Chole tearing up the picture of her with Ladybug is significant.




I tried watching Timetagger in French with English subs but once again they go a little too fast for me to keep up and stay involved in the story. There's an English version for Onichan now also.




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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on May 22, 2019, 08:06:40 AM
Miraculer
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Yeah, I feel like we were missing pages in this one with suddenly Hawkmoth is happy to use Mayura again?

I was half hoping she'd find out Adrien's secret and be conflicted or Chloe would find out Mayura's and be conflicted but I guess that's not going to happen. Just this episode was so focused on the secret or otherwise nature of superhero identity, that it would have been an interesting twist. Nathalie would definitely feel torn if she knew that she was caught between the father and son who she both cares about supporting.

 Poor Adrien, being cataclysmed to the ribs xD. He did pretty well considering that. I mean, that laid out the dinosaurs, and he's just winded? Or maybe it's because CN/Plagg didn't administer it. Miraculer was a bit plotkai, though, being able to use powers repeatedly. And totally wasted the potential of using Mirage, which obviously has the most useful applications in this kind of situation (as shown by Ladybug)

I half wondered if the baby was going to get akumatised again. Good grief, can you imagine the nightmare of being the parent of the baby that gets akumatised every time you refuse him sweets??

I was impressed Chloe could resist the akuma as well. I'm not sure what to make of the picture tearing. Either she's had enough of Ladybug and will ultimately turn villain - or she's decided to stop depending on Ladybug to come and summon her and instead prove herself another way.

Sabrina was cute in cosplay. :)

I also feel like Hawkmoth's using Lila is literally using Lila. He's manipulating her beautifully while she thinks she's the one in charge. Lila vs Chloe also happened at last. But I worry they might ultimately end up on the same team. "You're not entirely useless" is a worrying preamble for me. Why would she need to be useful to Chloe unless there's going to be some future stuff there?

It was a better ep than I thought it would be at the outset but I wish I knew what we were missing regarding Mayura. And when did Nathalie go from lovesick employee trying to bring Hawkmoth's dreams to life at her own risk to evil peacock co-conspirator type??

Mayura is also really pretty.

With the other...
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Edit to add -I found timetagger with the subs. I began watching but have had to pause it because I'm laughing too much at the 24 times the pigeon man has been akumatised, and the reactions of CN/Ladybug and especially Hawk Moth. "24 times I've akumatised this guy..."...

Too funny.
And another (!) toilet transformation..

Being serious now.

There's a lot going on in this episode.

A lot of threads back and forth.
A lot of connections.
A cameo by evil Lila again.
I had already surmised that Gabriel's assumptions about Papillon were wrong...I have a suspicion as to who I think future Papillon could be, based on that last scene with noel...

If so, that's a scary thought.

And Nathalie is back to supportive employee rather than crazy peacock.

Also, if I have to load one more patronising and annoying grammarly advert before watching a video on YT, I swear...>< I think they have a monopoly on every video lately and thank you but no thank you. I know how to put spaces between words and full stops on sentences -.-.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 22, 2019, 08:31:09 AM
I did watch Timetagger that night, but didn't have much to say about it.  :P
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I could've guessed Hawkmoth won't ultimately succeed, but I wonder who the new Hawkmoth would be?
It's interesting to note that the reason the miraculous holders can only use their powers once before detransforming is because they're children. Wouldn't it make more sense to give the miraculi to adults then? It's much more fun this way I guess.
Future Alix is really neat! I wonder if we'll get to see her be gifted her miraculous before the series ends. 
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on May 22, 2019, 08:43:23 AM
I did watch Timetagger that night, but didn't have much to say about it.  :P
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I could've guessed Hawkmoth won't ultimately succeed, but I wonder who the new Hawkmoth would be?
It's interesting to note that the reason the miraculous holders can only use their powers once before detransforming is because they're children. Wouldn't it make more sense to give the miraculi to adults then? It's much more fun this way I guess.
Future Alix is really neat! I wonder if we'll get to see her be gifted her miraculous before the series ends. 
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You don't think future Papillon is Lila? Based on the last scene with her randomly and weirdly being the babysitter of Noel, the future timetagger, that would be my guess at this point. In which case she's going to ramp up the evils at some point.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 22, 2019, 09:51:20 AM
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You don't think future Papillon is Lila? Based on the last scene with her randomly and weirdly being the babysitter of Noel, the future timetagger, that would be my guess at this point. In which case she's going to ramp up the evils at some point.
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Good point, I actually forgot about that scene when recalling the episode. Makes me wonder what she could be using the miraculi for, then.
I doubt we'll get another future episode, but it would be neat to see if we did.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 22, 2019, 05:39:01 PM
Miraculer
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Yeah, I feel like we were missing pages in this one with suddenly Hawkmoth is happy to use Mayura again?

I was half hoping she'd find out Adrien's secret and be conflicted or Chloe would find out Mayura's and be conflicted but I guess that's not going to happen. Just this episode was so focused on the secret or otherwise nature of superhero identity, that it would have been an interesting twist. Nathalie would definitely feel torn if she knew that she was caught between the father and son who she both cares about supporting.

 Poor Adrien, being cataclysmed to the ribs xD. He did pretty well considering that. I mean, that laid out the dinosaurs, and he's just winded? Or maybe it's because CN/Plagg didn't administer it. Miraculer was a bit plotkai, though, being able to use powers repeatedly. And totally wasted the potential of using Mirage, which obviously has the most useful applications in this kind of situation (as shown by Ladybug)

I half wondered if the baby was going to get akumatised again. Good grief, can you imagine the nightmare of being the parent of the baby that gets akumatised every time you refuse him sweets??

I was impressed Chloe could resist the akuma as well. I'm not sure what to make of the picture tearing. Either she's had enough of Ladybug and will ultimately turn villain - or she's decided to stop depending on Ladybug to come and summon her and instead prove herself another way.

Sabrina was cute in cosplay. :)

I also feel like Hawkmoth's using Lila is literally using Lila. He's manipulating her beautifully while she thinks she's the one in charge. Lila vs Chloe also happened at last. But I worry they might ultimately end up on the same team. "You're not entirely useless" is a worrying preamble for me. Why would she need to be useful to Chloe unless there's going to be some future stuff there?

It was a better ep than I thought it would be at the outset but I wish I knew what we were missing regarding Mayura. And when did Nathalie go from lovesick employee trying to bring Hawkmoth's dreams to life at her own risk to evil peacock co-conspirator type??

Mayura is also really pretty.

With the other...
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Edit to add -I found timetagger with the subs. I began watching but have had to pause it because I'm laughing too much at the 24 times the pigeon man has been akumatised, and the reactions of CN/Ladybug and especially Hawk Moth. "24 times I've akumatised this guy..."...

Too funny.
And another (!) toilet transformation..

Being serious now.

There's a lot going on in this episode.

A lot of threads back and forth.
A lot of connections.
A cameo by evil Lila again.
I had already surmised that Gabriel's assumptions about Papillon were wrong...I have a suspicion as to who I think future Papillon could be, based on that last scene with noel...

If so, that's a scary thought.

And Nathalie is back to supportive employee rather than crazy peacock.

Also, if I have to load one more patronising and annoying grammarly advert before watching a video on YT, I swear...>< I think they have a monopoly on every video lately and thank you but no thank you. I know how to put spaces between words and full stops on sentences -.-.



Miraculer


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I also thought Nathalie/Mayura might discover who CN really is when she tried to take his ring. I wanted to yell at my computer screen that CN is really Adrien. :P.


One thing that bothers me about this episode is that the last time we saw Nathalie just remembering when she used the Peacock to transform in to Mayura she had a terrible coughing spell but in this episode she seemed to transform multiple times without any consequences, but I assume that's part of the piece that's missing. It would probably be  pretty easy to hide the early effects of using the Peacock from Garbiel at first.


One of the things I wonder about the Peacock is if part of its damage/corruption is that it makes the user power hungry to the point that they will lose all sense of good judgement if they continue? Something seemed different about Nathalie when she was Mayura in this episode. Also none of the characters seemed to notice  that Ladybug caught the feather in her yoyo instead of a butterfly?


I think Plagg took part of the cataclysm hit since Adrien was still CN and that's why Adrien wasn't more seriously injured. 


I also thought the baby might be akumatized.




I watched Timetagger in French with English subs. I didn't quite catch everything but I got most it.


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I think 24 times has to be a record and every time he's akumatized it's Mr. Pigeon. Even Ladybug and Cat Noir seemed bored :lol:  It was pretty obvious that the future Hawkmoth/Pappillion wasn't going to be Gabriel basked on the grin on Timetagger's face.
 
I'm a little confused about the watch also being the Rabbit Miraculous. How can it be the watch that Alix's father gave her in Season 1 and also be the Rabbit Miraculous? I assume Master Fu knows about the watch?


Seeing the adult Alix was neat and learning why Hawkmoth and Mayura can stay transformed after using their powers.  I also wonder if the future that Bunnix/Alix and Timetagger came from can be changed by altering events in the present.


Is Noel the same little boy that was akumatized in Chrismaster? In the English dub he's called Chris instead of Noel. I think Lila babysitting shows that she is being sucessful in manipulating some of Marinette's and Adrien's friends into thinking that's she's a nice person. 



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on May 23, 2019, 01:22:25 AM
Miraculer
Spoiler
Yeah, I feel like we were missing pages in this one with suddenly Hawkmoth is happy to use Mayura again?

I was half hoping she'd find out Adrien's secret and be conflicted or Chloe would find out Mayura's and be conflicted but I guess that's not going to happen. Just this episode was so focused on the secret or otherwise nature of superhero identity, that it would have been an interesting twist. Nathalie would definitely feel torn if she knew that she was caught between the father and son who she both cares about supporting.

 Poor Adrien, being cataclysmed to the ribs xD. He did pretty well considering that. I mean, that laid out the dinosaurs, and he's just winded? Or maybe it's because CN/Plagg didn't administer it. Miraculer was a bit plotkai, though, being able to use powers repeatedly. And totally wasted the potential of using Mirage, which obviously has the most useful applications in this kind of situation (as shown by Ladybug)

I half wondered if the baby was going to get akumatised again. Good grief, can you imagine the nightmare of being the parent of the baby that gets akumatised every time you refuse him sweets??

I was impressed Chloe could resist the akuma as well. I'm not sure what to make of the picture tearing. Either she's had enough of Ladybug and will ultimately turn villain - or she's decided to stop depending on Ladybug to come and summon her and instead prove herself another way.

Sabrina was cute in cosplay. :)

I also feel like Hawkmoth's using Lila is literally using Lila. He's manipulating her beautifully while she thinks she's the one in charge. Lila vs Chloe also happened at last. But I worry they might ultimately end up on the same team. "You're not entirely useless" is a worrying preamble for me. Why would she need to be useful to Chloe unless there's going to be some future stuff there?

It was a better ep than I thought it would be at the outset but I wish I knew what we were missing regarding Mayura. And when did Nathalie go from lovesick employee trying to bring Hawkmoth's dreams to life at her own risk to evil peacock co-conspirator type??

Mayura is also really pretty.

With the other...
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Edit to add -I found timetagger with the subs. I began watching but have had to pause it because I'm laughing too much at the 24 times the pigeon man has been akumatised, and the reactions of CN/Ladybug and especially Hawk Moth. "24 times I've akumatised this guy..."...

Too funny.
And another (!) toilet transformation..

Being serious now.

There's a lot going on in this episode.

A lot of threads back and forth.
A lot of connections.
A cameo by evil Lila again.
I had already surmised that Gabriel's assumptions about Papillon were wrong...I have a suspicion as to who I think future Papillon could be, based on that last scene with noel...

If so, that's a scary thought.

And Nathalie is back to supportive employee rather than crazy peacock.

Also, if I have to load one more patronising and annoying grammarly advert before watching a video on YT, I swear...>< I think they have a monopoly on every video lately and thank you but no thank you. I know how to put spaces between words and full stops on sentences -.-.



Miraculer


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I also thought Nathalie/Mayura might discover who CN really is when she tried to take his ring. I wanted to yell at my computer screen that CN is really Adrien. :P.


One thing that bothers me about this episode is that the last time we saw Nathalie just remembering when she used the Peacock to transform in to Mayura she had a terrible coughing spell but in this episode she seemed to transform multiple times without any consequences, but I assume that's part of the piece that's missing. It would probably be  pretty easy to hide the early effects of using the Peacock from Garbiel at first.


One of the things I wonder about the Peacock is if part of its damage/corruption is that it makes the user power hungry to the point that they will lose all sense of good judgement if they continue? Something seemed different about Nathalie when she was Mayura in this episode. Also none of the characters seemed to notice  that Ladybug caught the feather in her yoyo instead of a butterfly?


I think Plagg took part of the cataclysm hit since Adrien was still CN and that's why Adrien wasn't more seriously injured. 


I also thought the baby might be akumatized.




I watched Timetagger in French with English subs. I didn't quite catch everything but I got most it.


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I think 24 times has to be a record and every time he's akumatized it's Mr. Pigeon. Even Ladybug and Cat Noir seemed bored :lol:  It was pretty obvious that the future Hawkmoth/Pappillion wasn't going to be Gabriel basked on the grin on Timetagger's face.
 
I'm a little confused about the watch also being the Rabbit Miraculous. How can it be the watch that Alix's father gave her in Season 1 and also be the Rabbit Miraculous? I assume Master Fu knows about the watch?


Seeing the adult Alix was neat and learning why Hawkmoth and Mayura can stay transformed after using their powers.  I also wonder if the future that Bunnix/Alix and Timetagger came from can be changed by altering events in the present.


Is Noel the same little boy that was akumatized in Chrismaster? In the English dub he's called Chris instead of Noel. I think Lila babysitting shows that she is being sucessful in manipulating some of Marinette's and Adrien's friends into thinking that's she's a nice person. 



Ponyfan

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I did watch Chris-master in French I think, but I can't remember. However, it would make sense to rename him in the dub if they did - Noel being the French word for Christmas...that wouldn't translate over unless you made the kid's name Chris in English. I assumed they were the same but I didn't much care for the Chrismaster episode so haven't rewatched it.

I am also confused about the clock. I would like to know more about that timeline. Because Alix's Dad definitely had it, and it's something important that gets handed down - and broken at least once...and yet...I dunno. Too much still needs to be explained with that and how it works. Maybe it's left with Alix's family, or someone in her family history had it for some reason and it's handed down...but...yeah. It's a nice touch and I like the idea of Alix being important in the future, but it needs more explanation.

Also, the future relationship of CN and Ladybug is still vague, but the fact Bunnix revealed her identity before Ladybug, CN and herself (!) which is changing the past makes me think this encounter is important as a step towards Alix taking on that destiny. And that hiding identities isn't so important between allies in the future world.

Which means CN and Ladybug may know each other's real identities as well in that world.

Of course, it could just be a one off episode unconnected to anything else, but I genuinely see this as foreshadowing Lila becoming Hawkmoth in the future. Which would mean that Hawkmoth has underestimated her.


I have to end with this...

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"Mr Rat?! What kind of enemy is Mr Rat?!"

..."Rats are so cute..." says the akumatised 24 times Pigeon man...

Brilliant.

This springs to mind:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7ze0Yw9xVU
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 23, 2019, 05:03:16 AM
Timetagger

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That's very interesting about Noel/Chris. I also think the fact that Lila is babysitting him at the end and letting him play the game that Marinette and Alya wouldn't is significant and if he is still upset because Marinette and Alya refuse to give in to his demands but Lila is that could be foreshadowing that he will join her if she becomes the future Hawkmoth. I also think that Gabriel might be underestimating Lila.


Something I've been thinking about is if Gabriel not being the Hawkmoth of the future doesn't necessarily mean that he failed to revive Emelie? If there was a way to bring her back without destroying the CN and Ladybug Miraculous maybe he would be so happy that he would stop using the Butterfly for evil purposes but it falls in to the next Hawkmoth's hands before Master Fu can get it back?


I felt sorry for Nooroo when he tried to talk to Gabriel and Gabriel wouldn't allow him to speak. Don't blame your Kwami , Gabriel. He probably doesn't know who the future Hawkmoth is.

Also if I understood Bunnix correctly she said CN damaged her Miraculous causing them to lose the fight with Timetagger in the future and trapping her in the stone. While in the present she stops CN from damaging her Miraculous so they can win the fight with Timetagger. The magic ladybugs fixed the Bee Miraculous when CN destroyed it when Chole was Queen Wasp, so did the present have to be changed to alter the future?





Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 25, 2019, 03:17:08 PM
There's an English dub for Timetagger but the video I watched sounds like they're in a tunnel. :sad: also in the video I watched the first part of the episode where Marinette and Alya are playing the rapping game and about 1 minute of audio is missing after Timetagger appears.

I guess I'm getting used to the French dub as  I'm used to the characters saying "transforme moi" instead of their English transformation phrase.

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I might missed it in the French version but in English Hawmoth calls out the detransformation phrase but doesn't turn back in to Gabriel? Does he have enough control over Nooroo that he can stop himself from detransforming? Also in English Nathalie says that it's possible that Gabriel gave up becoming Hawkmoth because he was able to revive Emelie.


Chris and Noel are the same character. :)




Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on June 12, 2019, 09:52:37 AM
It looks Gamer 2.0 will be airing in the next few days. I wish the new episodes would be released more quickly.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on June 13, 2019, 02:43:57 PM
It looks Gamer 2.0 will be airing in the next few days. I wish the new episodes would be released more quickly.


Ponyfan

Yeah, there's literally nothing new flagged up on my digital box to record off Disney which means even UK Disney Channel is now all caught up -.-.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on June 13, 2019, 06:41:39 PM
I keep seeing pictures of a Hiatus calendar someone made that shows how huge the hiatus between seasons one and two was, and even between episodes. I'm hoping this season won't have such a large space on that calendar, but ho hum...
What ever happened to a weekly airing schedule.  :P
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on June 15, 2019, 01:18:10 PM
Disney Channel in the US is still airing season 1 and 2 episodes but I think they're only doing a few out of each season?

I hope Season 3 doesn't have a long hiatus either. A possible air date for Refekta has been announced.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on June 21, 2019, 03:20:42 PM
Gamer 2.0 has aired in French.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on June 27, 2019, 04:51:50 PM
I just watched Gamer 2.0 in French with English subs

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Max's game uses everyone that's been akumatized so far. Also another bathroom transformation scene. :lol:

Nathalie/Catalyst is missing from the villians as is The Collector/Gabriel. I assume that's becaue being Hawk Moth can overide the power he grants to the akumatized person. There's also a glimpse of a villian we haven't seen LB and CN fight yet so this is another episode that has aired out of order.

How is LB able to use Cataclysm with CN's ring even in the game? 






Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir ContainsI spoilers
Post by: alkevin on June 30, 2019, 03:36:08 PM
I loved the music of the video game.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on July 08, 2019, 12:18:58 PM
The music was pretty good. :)

Party Crasher has aired, but I haven't watched it yet.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on July 17, 2019, 07:21:10 PM
It looks like Puppeteer 2 has also aired. I still need to watch Party Crasher but

Spoiler
If it's Adrien's birthday again and the 2nd episode of Season 1 (Bubbler) was also about Adrien's birthday than all of the episodes so far have taken place in a year's time?




Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on July 18, 2019, 06:00:18 AM
I downloaded the mobile app out of boredom and it's HILARIOUS watching Ladybug slam face-first into a car. No hesitation. Amazing.
I did watch party crasher! It was ok. Cute.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on July 18, 2019, 06:23:30 AM
I have the mobile app too. It makes me laugh how the characters always turn around at the start and wave at the player will running backwards. :lol:  I wish they would add more levels to the app.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on July 18, 2019, 08:32:29 AM
I am so behind on this, will need to catch up.

The idea of Ladybug running into a car reminds me of a scene from...I think it was the Justice League animation where Superman is flyswatted between two cars by Grundy, and someone I used to know on a forum had that as his avatar for a long time.

It was quite mesmerising. Smash. Smash. Smash.

...Back on topic. xD. I'll try and catch up with MLB soon.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on August 01, 2019, 06:54:04 PM
Season 3 part 1 is on US Netflix with the English dub I'm not sure the episodes are listed in the correct order but they are listed on US Netflix as

1. Chameleon

2, Animaestro 

3. Bakerix

4. Backwarder

5. Gamer 2.0

6. Weredad

7. Silencer

8. Oni-chan

9. Miraculer

10. Oblivio

11. Party Crasher

12. Chris Master

13. The Puppeteer 2


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on August 02, 2019, 01:15:46 AM
Meantime UK netflix is still stuck at season 1.

Yay.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on August 02, 2019, 09:43:20 AM
I'm sorry UK Netflix still only has Season 1. I hope Season 2 gets added soon.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on August 04, 2019, 03:41:40 AM
I'm sorry UK Netflix still only has Season 1. I hope Season 2 gets added soon.


Ponyfan

I think Disney still has the rights. They're all recorded on my box at home because my parents have the Disney channel but here in London I only have Netflix access so yeah, it's frustrating. Though I'm not totally up to date on S3 so I shouldn't really complain xD.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 12, 2019, 01:03:14 PM
The Instagrams are SO much fun. What a fun time. I love that they all interact!
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on August 14, 2019, 03:30:44 PM
I just watched Party Crasher. I don't recommend watching it until you've watched the other episodes as there are several major spoilers in it. Maybe it's one of the episode that's aired out of order?





Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on August 16, 2019, 02:49:50 PM
I've watched a couple of new episodes on Netflix and I can't find anything that matches up with the spoilers in Party Crasher.

Major spoilers in the spoiler tags.

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Max will get the horse Miraculous and Luka the snake Miraculous. Max will become Pegaus and Luka will become Viperion. 

Emellie's casket is also some kind of life support system keeping her body alive. Max's robot taps in to the Agreste mansion power system and causes a power failure. Gabriel panics when the life support system starts to shut down and turns in to Hawk Moth to find someone to akumatize so he can get enough power restored to keep it going. 


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 16, 2019, 03:37:43 PM
I think Miraculous Tumblr figured out sometime in season 2 that episodes will air out of order, so I don't see too much confusion over there about the episode. I'm sure it'll be explained, but it does make it very confusing for a while.
In fact, there's a few episodes I think that aired out of order, but I can't remember which ones right now.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on August 16, 2019, 03:59:14 PM
I think Miraculer and Gamer 2.0 aired out of order also but those episodes have very small spoilers.  I haven't watched Silencer yet which might explain

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Viperion.

It was more than a little surprising to see  Master Fu secretly get Luka and Max their Miraculous and by the looks on their faces it's not the first time they've used them.

Also a new holder/superhero is revealed but I'm okay with that one because it happens for the first time in Party Crasher.

I'm sure you're right and it will all make sense eventually. :)


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on August 19, 2019, 05:23:01 AM
I watched Puppeteer 2

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I felt really bad for Adrien in this one, thinking Marinette was mad at him and didn't want to be his friend anymore. He's still learning about friendship and I don't think Marinette realized how much her not wanting to be left alone with Adrien would hurt him.

Nathalie was really nice to Adrien in this episode letting him invite so many friends along to the museum.  She rarely goes against Gabriel's wishes when it comes to Adrien although she will stand up for him if Gabriel is being extremely harsh/unreasonable. I don't think Gabriel would have allowed so many friends to join Adrien. Maybe Nathalie is realizing Adrien needs more freedom than Gabriel usually allows.

Adrien admits to Marinette that he's in love with another girl practically crushing Marinette ,but only because she doesn't know Adrien is Cat Noir and is referring to Ladybug.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on August 23, 2019, 07:07:47 AM
In the Puppetter 2 episode, the statues of LB and CN are not cgi rendered, but photos of the real figures?
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on August 23, 2019, 01:29:46 PM
In the Puppetter 2 episode, the statues of LB and CN are not cgi rendered, but photos of the real figures?


They do look different than the cgi characters. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were photos of the figures. :)

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Although when the statues come to life I’m not sure if they would still be photos.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on September 29, 2019, 04:34:37 PM
It looks like several more episodes have aired.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 29, 2019, 06:54:36 PM
Some people are nursing the idea of Adrien being a sentimonster. Eh! I see where they're coming from, but Id really hate if this one were true.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on September 30, 2019, 11:09:39 AM
Some people are nursing the idea of Adrien being a sentimonster. Eh! I see where they're coming from, but Id really hate if this one were true.


I hope that’s not true either although I can also see how some people would come to that conclusion.

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I can’t see how Cat Blanc will end without either Hawkmoth or Marinette/Ladybug finding out who CN really is.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 30, 2019, 11:21:08 AM
I think I remember the episode 'Ladybug' takes place AFTER the 'Chat Blanc' episode so I don't think we will get a reveal. Not that the episode hinted to much taking place during that episode anyway.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on September 30, 2019, 12:20:21 PM
I think I remember the episode 'Ladybug' takes place AFTER the 'Chat Blanc' episode so I don't think we will get a reveal. Not that the episode hinted to much taking place during that episode anyway.


I'm still confused on the order of some of the episodes. I was hoping for a
reveal. I just looked at the synopsis for Ladybug


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It looks like it will clear up some of the Nathalie/Mayura details that we seem to be missing.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 30, 2019, 12:40:16 PM
The wiki doesn't list them in order, but they do have the production codes! I've italicized the ones I'm pretty sure aren't out in any capacity.
Chameleon
Animaestro
Bakerix
Backwarder
Reflektedoll
Weredad
Silencer
Oni-Chan
Miraculer
Oblivio
Desperada
Christmaster
Startrain
Kwamibuster
Feast
Gamer 2.0
Stormy Weather 2
Ikari Gozen
Timetagger
Party Crasher
The Puppeteer 2
Cat Blanc
Felix
Ladybug
Love Eater 1+2
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on September 30, 2019, 03:38:49 PM
That's a useful list as I'm way behind on this show and my box has recorded a bunch of episodes I haven't seen and I have no idea what order I should watch them in xD.

Wiki wasn't hugely helpful either.

Can I just say that the name Ikari Gozen still tickles me epically because of the joke it's making that relates to what I study. Because Kagami's mother is called Tomoe. It's an awesome nod to Genpei XD.

I probably mentioned it before but Tomoe Gozen was a (possibly fictional, possibly real) female warrior who fought alongside a powerful warlord called Yoshinaka till his death in the 12th century. She was famed as a brilliant warrior capable of holding her own against any man, and her legend stayed really popular in Japan. 'Gozen' is used as a suffix for a number of female individuals in Japanese history but Tomoe Gozen is probably the best known. The fact that she's called Tomoe and they called the ep Ikari Gozen is just such a nice acknowledgement of that piece of Japanese cultural history. Nice touch.

Especially too since Kagami's surname Tsurugi means sword.

...Haven't seen the episode yet but really hoping that there are more little nods like that in it.
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(Also heard that the dragon kwami is connected to storm and water :D Very Susano'o)
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on September 30, 2019, 07:23:00 PM
Thanks tailrustedtealeaf. :) I wish I had known that Party Crasher was supposed to be closer to the end of Season 3 as I would have waited to watch it but it showed up on Netflix as part of Season 3 part 1.


That's very interesting Taffeta. :D
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 01, 2019, 10:14:55 AM
Tumblr Miraculous fandom was VERY upset in some circles because that episode spoiled a bunch of transformations. I get it, I guess, it really gave me some whiplash.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on October 02, 2019, 03:25:49 PM
It was pretty shocking to me to see
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Pegaus and Viperion for the first time in that episode with no previous introduction and who they really are. Also Hawkmoth is already aware of Viperion's power in Party Crasher because he tells his akumatized villain to beware of Viperon.

I think I read somewhere that Marinette originally gives the Snake Miraculous to Adrien because she doesn't realize he is Cat Noir


Ponyfan





Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 08, 2019, 10:24:09 AM
Kwamibuster will be out on the 12th!
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This is the episode with Multimouse!
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 15, 2019, 03:08:27 PM
I watched the finale because I'm evil. Waiting on an English dub for part 2:
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I like Adrimi but I'm still Adrienette loyal. Was very conflicted. It'll be cute to see what happens, although.i wish I had a translation for...a lot of it.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on October 20, 2019, 06:28:38 AM
I haven't seen the finale yet but

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I also feel Marinette and Adrien are meant for each other.  I'm curious how Nathalie using the Peacock Miraculous will be resolved and if we'll ever see what changed Gabriel's mind from not wanting her to use it again because it was damaged and that it  harms Nathalie each time she uses it to him being okay with her using it despite the consequences. 



Has it been confirmed if there will be  a season 4?

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: cloud_weaver on November 10, 2019, 07:27:32 PM
Glad to see I'm not the only one in love with this show!  My hubby and five boys love it too!!! It's the only thing we watch really. 😅
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on November 11, 2019, 08:07:32 AM
I love how complex the characters are and most of the episodes are really good and rewatchable for me although there are a few that I didn't enjoy. The main plot is also very good and has a lot of unexpected twists and turns. :D

It looks like there are some more episodes with the English dub now on YouTube.

There is also a new Miraculous inspired app called Miraculous Crush. I downloaded it but haven't tried it out yet.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 11, 2019, 08:17:09 AM
I'm becoming more frustrated with Astruc since the finale.
Chat Blanc destroyed me.
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I like that Bunnix was introduced, but I'm getting sick of the whole "return to status quo!" thing, especially when we're three seasons in and it feels like not much has changed from day one.
At least the episode showed that the reveal WOULD go well if we had one. That Hawkmoth/Gabriel found out about Chat's identity was a very small moment.
I still am not over that Chloe was not redeemed and went back to square one. She's not a bad character, there's a reason why we all like her so much. She's fun and I don't like that the Lila buildup didn't end up with her assisting Hawkmoth, it made no sense.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on November 11, 2019, 11:58:58 AM
I'm becoming more frustrated with Astruc since the finale.
Chat Blanc destroyed me.
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I like that Bunnix was introduced, but I'm getting sick of the whole "return to status quo!" thing, especially when we're three seasons in and it feels like not much has changed from day one.
At least the episode showed that the reveal WOULD go well if we had one. That Hawkmoth/Gabriel found out about Chat's identity was a very small moment.
I still am not over that Chloe was not redeemed and went back to square one. She's not a bad character, there's a reason why we all like her so much. She's fun and I don't like that the Lila buildup didn't end up with her assisting Hawkmoth, it made no sense.

Chat Blanc was one of the episodes I was looking forward too the most.

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Are you saying there was no reveal but it was hinted at that if Gabriel found out Adrien is Cat Noir Gabriel would just accept it after all of the ways he’s tried to get LB and CN‘s Miraculous?

I want to find out more about why the Peacock Miraculous is damaged and how that caused Emelie to fall in to a coma. Also why Gabriel is suddenly willing for Nathalie to suffer the same fate as Emelie when he told Nathalie not to use the Peacock again.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 11, 2019, 12:04:25 PM
Ponyfan:
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Nah, I meant time-wise, that Gabriel found it at ALL was a small lucky moment. I thought the whole episode was going to only force that Marinette/Adrien should not discover about each other even more, but it didn't really. I don't wanna spoil it for you but you'll see it was lucky.
Gabriel certainly acted on that info.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on November 13, 2019, 05:52:29 PM
Ponyfan:
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Nah, I meant time-wise, that Gabriel found it at ALL was a small lucky moment. I thought the whole episode was going to only force that Marinette/Adrien should not discover about each other even more, but it didn't really. I don't wanna spoil it for you but you'll see it was lucky.
Gabriel certainly acted on that info.


I will have to watch the episode. :)  I tried looking for it on YouTube but got several episodes  claiming to be Chat Blanc but they're different ones.

The Miraculous Crush app is fun so far but it has a few bugs (no pun intended)


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 13, 2019, 06:38:21 PM
I haven't tried the new app yet! I still have the run app on my phone even though I never play it.
Just saw Felix. Eh? That's all I can say.
Here's a link to chat blanc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZSHSBmJrUY) in English. 
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on November 13, 2019, 07:09:26 PM
Thanks for the link. I will watch Chat Blanc soon. :D 

I have the run app also but I've quit playing it too since you have to pay a monthly fee to get new levels.  It never ran smoothly for me but it was a lot of fun. I hope the Miraculous Crush app will not make the same mistakes as the run app.



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I watched Chat Blanc. That was intense. I see what you mean about Gabriel getting lucky finding out that Adrien is Cat Noir, tailrustedtealeaf.  I usually like Nathalie but I was surprised she just told Gabriel that she saw Adrien transform in to CN like that.

Im a little sad that it ended up like Oblivio though and everything that happened after Adrien figures out that Ladybug and Marinette are the same person was erased.

I felt really bad for Adrien though when Hawkmoth revealed Emelie in her casket/life support box and they way Hawkmoth used Emelie to manipulate Adrien/CN

I really like Bunnix. :) Did I hear Bunnix correctly that she told Ladybug that she knows she’s really Marinette? So it’s okay for Nathalie and Gabriel to know each other’s identity and for Bunnix to know Marinette’s but if Adrien and Marinette  find out about each other, the world would be destroyed?

Also how was CN able to destroy the akuma using Cataclysm when I thought one of the first episodes established that only Ladybug can?

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on November 14, 2019, 04:25:21 PM
So I am more or less caught up to what eps are available courtesy of what's airing on UK Disney which seems quite up to date (the first part of what I guess is the finale is happening this week or next according to the recording schedule). But I am confused since none of the guides of what order to watch episodes are actually correct and I saw a ton of stuff out or order.

Both Felix and Chat Blanc have aired here and I watched Chat Blanc first then Felix. I am also frustrated with Chat Blanc tbh. Although not knowing how these episodes fit together, I have to wonder something...

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In normal battles, when Marinette reverses everything, she doesn't reverse her own memories of the battle. And when she goes to Chat at the end, she says, it worked. She's also a ton more affectionate. It feels like she still remembers the things from that encounter, including presumably Chat's identity. But I don't know whether another ep is meant to come right after that because yeah. I dunno.

Then...the Kwami buster episode...
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Adrien caught a brief glimpse of Marinette, decided she was maybe Ladybug, then a whole ton of weird happened with mice and whatever else to persuade him otherwise and I'm like...really...what now?

Oh yeah, and the temple randomly reappeared. Conveniently. I dunno. That whole episode had promise and ended up so random and broken in so many ways.

Felix is a horrible little worm but I do wonder if
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he is actually the future HawkMoth. We speculated on Lila, but somehow suddenly this seems a lot more likely. There's clearly more going on in Emelie's family than we ever realised.

On other random fan notes...

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So amused I can now officially name MLB as a research source as an example of pop culture influenced by warrior legends in Japan. Tomoe Gozen...though all that wind and thunder and lightning stuff was almost certainly never written about her. She was more the kind who ripped/cut off heads and stuff, but I guess that's not kid friendly.

And the train in space. Really now? Train...in space? Okay then. Trains, toilets...these are ongoing themes for this show, aren't they...

And what did they do to poor Big Ben's tower ;)
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 14, 2019, 04:42:57 PM
Chat Blanc
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Which Ladybug got destroyed at the end? That might explain it. I kinda zoned out at the end of that one and was engulfed with RAGE.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on November 14, 2019, 04:55:31 PM
Chat Blanc
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Which Ladybug got destroyed at the end? That might explain it. I kinda zoned out at the end of that one and was engulfed with RAGE.
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It's more that after the incident she goes and she says, "I did it," and then lays her head on his shoulder...which she wouldn't do unless she remembered something. And she can't only remember the bit where she had to fight Chat without knowing why she had to fight Chat...so it feels like she should know everything if she knows what she just completed. Meaning...she should know he's Adrien, even if he doesn't know she's Marinette now.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on November 14, 2019, 05:25:05 PM
Chat Blanc
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Which Ladybug got destroyed at the end? That might explain it. I kinda zoned out at the end of that one and was engulfed with RAGE.
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It's more that after the incident she goes and she says, "I did it," and then lays her head on his shoulder...which she wouldn't do unless she remembered something. And she can't only remember the bit where she had to fight Chat without knowing why she had to fight Chat...so it feels like she should know everything if she knows what she just completed. Meaning...she should know he's Adrien, even if he doesn't know she's Marinette now.


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That’s a good point. Marinette usually pushes Cat Noir away when she’s Ladybug since she doesn’t know he’s Adrien.  So maybe the world won’t be destroyed if Marinette knows Adrien is CN but Adrien can’t know who Ladybug is due to the complications involving Gabriel and Emelie.

Also did Chat Blanc still have his Miraculous when he was trying to take Ladybug’s earrings or did he give it to Hawkmoth after he was akumatized since the akuma was in the bell on his costume?


I haven’t seen  Felix or Kwamii Buster.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on November 14, 2019, 05:39:41 PM
I am genuinely not sure what order they ought to be seen in but I feel like Feast came before whichever ep it is with the cinema ticket, and Desperada and Startrain both came before the Party Crasher (I think it's that episode) but not according to online sites or according to my recording box. So working out whether Felix came before or after Cat Blanc is a bit uncertain for me, but I would rather it was after.

All of these aired in a random order these last 2 weeks on UK Disney and recorded on my box but yeah.

Also it said that Ladybug was recorded but actually it was another airing of Onichan so I still haven't seen Ladybug yet and it won't air until the 18th or something...?

Gah.

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 14, 2019, 06:02:23 PM
Production order says Felix is after Chat Blanc, making Ladybug the last episode before the finale.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on November 14, 2019, 06:12:47 PM
Production order says Felix is after Chat Blanc, making Ladybug the last episode before the finale.


That would fit with the projected airing schedule here I think...up to the finale which should be next week here by the looks. I am going to just wait till it airs since it's so close, as it's less hassle than hunting it up online.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on November 15, 2019, 10:49:31 PM
Startrain

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I really liked this one.  Adrien is really nice to let Marinette keep sleeping on his shoulder.  It's interesting that the akuma was still able to akumatize someone without Hawkmoth being able to communicate with that person due to the akuma being too far away. I like that Gabriel was worried about Adrien's safety once he found out he was on the train and that he admitted he would have to count on Ladybug and Cat Noir to save Adrien. 




Felix


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Felix is terrible. I agree with Taffeta that he might be the Hawkmoth of the future.  Why does Felix want the wedding rings? Is it only because his mother wanted them?

Am I the only one that thought it was a little weird that Gabriel opened Emelie's casket to put her wedding ring on her hand? I know she's in a coma/deep sleep and not really dead but still...

It was nice to see Nathalie trying to protect Adrien. 




Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on December 21, 2019, 07:41:19 PM
I rewatched the Christmas special today. I wish US iTunes had the soundtrack.

I think I might have watched Gamer 2.0 originally in French with English subs but I recently watched the English dub and enjoyed the episode more than I did the first time.

I still need to catch up on some of the other Season 3 episodes. 


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on December 22, 2019, 03:54:57 AM
Did you guys see the art figure they're going to make? It's Soo pretty.
It's a shame that disaster of a finale sort of quelled my excitement.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on December 22, 2019, 07:02:06 AM
I haven't watched the season finale yet but I'm a little worried to now that you say it's a disaster.  :hide:

Season 3 episodes I haven't watched yet

Reflekdoll

Desperada

Kwamii Buster

Feast

Ikari Gozen

Ladybug

Heart Hunter

Miracle Queen



I just looked up the art figure. I love it. :lovey: 


The Miraculous Crush app has been updated with new levels.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 11, 2020, 11:11:52 AM
It was just announced that the rest of Season 3 will be on  US Netflix on Feb 1st :cheer:

I’m still a little worried about the season finale though.

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 11, 2020, 01:04:46 PM
I mean, a lot of people who didn't like it are people like me who indulged in fan content, so perhaps you might like it if you're more of a casual fan.  ^.^ It just sort of blew a hole in our Fanon is all.
Apparently SAMG studios will no longer be animating. Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9oRVDSxiJQ)'s a video that shows the three different animation studios thus far if you wanted a comparison. There's been no announcement as to whether another studio will take their place.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 13, 2020, 09:27:41 AM
I tried reading a few ML fanfictions but a lot of them were either episode rewrites that ended in CN finding out Marinette is Ladybug or Hawkmoth tells CN that he knows he's Adrien.


That was a really interesting video about the animation differences. There's one episode on Netflix where the Lucky Charm animation slows down to a crawl and it almost seems like it's going frame by frame instead of several frames per second. All the other episodes Lucky Charm animation is much smoother although I figure that the repeated sequences were only animated once and just reused for every episode that is needed unless a new animation sequence is needed.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 15, 2020, 05:46:52 PM
It was just announced that the rest of Season 3 will be on  US Netflix on Feb 1st :cheer:

I’m still a little worried about the season finale though.

Ponyfan

Disney in the UK aired all of season 3 before Christmas, and I cheated and skipped to the end of the finale because I was concerned too.

Let's just say I'm not watching any more MLB until they resolve that finale.

Casual fan who hasn't read any fanfic or material or done anything like that. I'm not extremely obsessed with it. I just don't like the finale, so if that's how things are going from now on, I'm done.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 16, 2020, 12:22:18 PM
It was just announced that the rest of Season 3 will be on  US Netflix on Feb 1st :cheer:

I’m still a little worried about the season finale though.

Ponyfan

Disney in the UK aired all of season 3 before Christmas, and I cheated and skipped to the end of the finale because I was concerned too.

Let's just say I'm not watching any more MLB until they resolve that finale.

Casual fan who hasn't read any fanfic or material or done anything like that. I'm not extremely obsessed with it. I just don't like the finale, so if that's how things are going from now on, I'm done.



This makes me worry about the finale. I've already felt there are pieces missing in the overall plot but assumed it was due to the Season 3 episodes being out of order. I have to say though out all the episodes so far I think Season 3 has the most episodes that I dislike. It hasn't been too many but "Chris Master" and "Silencer" are not rewatchable for me and "Chat Blanc" was disappointing. 

To watch the finale now or wait until I've watched the rest of Season 3, that is the question...


Ponyfan 
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on January 16, 2020, 12:35:13 PM
I think the out of sequence thing is a problem since even though I watched them according to the online lists and stuff they don't make sense in that order. It's hard to know what connects to what and something spoilers something else.

Frankly though my reasoning for not wanting to continue are quite superficial, but it's also the case that I will return to it if they resolve the thing I don't like. But I don't want to waste time being frustrated and it's true Chat Blanc is both a great and a frustrating episode leading up to the finale.

Even though I love that Tomoe Gozen got a mention/reference in this series too, I don't like how Ikari Gozen was rendered as an akumatised person, I feel like it abandoned the opportunity to make it bushi-esque in order to go modern and robotish instead and since they went to the trouble of making the reference, they should have carried it through the whole way.

There are some eps in this series that seem irrelevant as well. But that's just me. Like Stormy Weather II.

...I also can't stand Lila.
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Although I no longer believe she's the future HM given other information.

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on January 19, 2020, 03:29:48 PM
I noticed that  some countries aren´t receiving the new figures: multimouse, Lady Noir... On Ebay its Russia that has all the characters. Why the lack of distribution? :|
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 01, 2020, 12:37:27 PM
The rest of Season 3 is on Netflix. I decided I will watch the rest of the Season 3 episodes before I watch the finale.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 10, 2020, 07:46:02 AM
I watched Feast and Kwamii Buster

Kwamii Buster

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Was the Mouse Miraculous featured in a previous episode? I don't understand how Marinette was able to use the Mouse to become Multimouse if that was the first time she used it or how she could have known that she could combine powers using the Mouse.   




Feast

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I always find it interesting when we see Nathalie showing the negative effects of using the damaged Peacock Miraculous. I felt bad for Adrien in this episode when he said Emelie had dizzy spells before she "disappeared" and  Adrien is worried now about Nathalie showing the same symptoms.  I did enjoy seeing Gabriel worried about Nathalie when she suddenly transformed back to normal after Feast was defeated. I haven't seen all of the Season 3 episodes yet but it still feels like a piece is missing about Gabriel's feelings on Nathalie using the Peacock.

   




Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on February 10, 2020, 09:16:13 AM
The mouse was only featured in that episode unless I'm mistaken.
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I don't quite remember but I thiiink they've hinted to Nathalia feeling for Gabriel in the past.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 10, 2020, 10:04:13 AM
The mouse was only featured in that episode unless I'm mistaken.
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I don't quite remember but I thiiink they've hinted to Nathalia feeling for Gabriel in the past.


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Maybe knowing how to use Multimouse without being instructed by Master Fu or the Mouse Kwamii is one of the reasons Fu says Marinette will be the next guardian?

I forgot to mention something about Feast. The news report says all of the monks returned to the temple. Fu tells Marinette that Feast ate all of the other Miracle boxes and he holds the very last one. Since the temple and the monks returned does that mean that all the other Miracle boxes were restored? Could that make it possible for there to be 2 holders of the same Miraculous?

I think Nathalie is in love with Gabriel. I can see why she keeps using the Peacock despite what happened to Emelie but Gabriel seems to waver between not wanting Nathalie to use it because it's damaged and being okay with her risking the consequences. Then again Nathalie might be hiding the negative effects the Peacock is having on her as much as possible from Gabriel. 

I have a feeling that  the Peacock might hurt the holder a little more each time it's used and that's why sometimes Nathalie seems fine but then gets dizzy or starts coughing.   




Edit: I also watched Reflekdoll

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I really liked this one. It was fun seeing Adrien and Marinette work with each other’s Kwamii and see the difficulties the other faces when defeating a villain.  I’d like to see more of Lady Noir and Mister Bug. We finally see how Nathalie transforms in to Mayura and the Peacock Kwamii. Something seems to be wrong with Duusu. Duusu didn’t even notice at first that Nathalie was injured after using the Peacock.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on February 12, 2020, 10:42:12 AM
I will say this, the Peacock kwamii is super cute.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 20, 2020, 05:13:00 PM
Ikari Gozen

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Overall I liked this one and finding out more about Kagami. It did feel like Kagami was trying too hard to become friends with Marinette  at first but that makes sense since she was using the “how to make friends” app.

 I love the dragon Kwamii Longg  and the powers of the Dragon Miraculous. I’m actually a little disappointed that Kagami won’t get to use the Dragon again 

Mayura wasn’t in this one so I’m assuming that Hawkmoth doesn’t use Mayura  every time he akumatizes someone.

Is this the first time we’ve seen someone akumatized with the object they’re inside at the time?  Ikari Gozen’s body was was part car.



Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on February 22, 2020, 02:46:23 PM
The new upcoming toys https://www.facebook.com/bemiraculouslb/photos/pcb.2455328944780871/2455328224780943/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 22, 2020, 08:11:59 PM
The new upcoming toys https://www.facebook.com/bemiraculouslb/photos/pcb.2455328944780871/2455328224780943/?type=3&theater


I love the toys. I hope they have wide distribution. I'm afraid I'm going to be broke though if we get the dolls in the US. The only thing I don't really like is the playset. It looks nice but is it only Marinette's room and the roof?


Desperada

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I liked this one but I'm a little confused about Adrien and the Snake Miraculous. I know LB gives Adrien the Snake because she doesn't realize he's CN but why is Adrien such a bad Aspic? Is it because Master Fu chose him as CN and not as the holder of the Snake? When Adrien gives LB back the Snake so he can become CN again he says that he tried over 2,000 times to save her and failed each time. Or is Adrien a bad Aspic because he is trying to impress LB since she usually rejects CN's affections for her?





Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 27, 2020, 06:12:36 PM
I finished Season 3

Ladybug

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I hope Lila doesn’t return as a recurring character in Season 4.  I’m assuming framing Marinette for cheating and pushing Lila down the stairs was the threat Lila mention in Chameleon.

Nathalie seems to be unable to resist using the Peacock despite the risks. I must have watched the episodes out of order because in one of them Dussu doesn’t seem very concerned about Nathalie’s health but in Ladybug Dussu warns Nathalie not to use the Peacock while she’s still recovering.

Did Gabriel really think Nathalie wouldn't try to take the Peacock back from him the first chance she got?

I was a little surprised that Mayura ended the sentimonster Ladybug’s existence when it decided to join the real Ladybug and CN and fight Mayura.

A couple of times when Nathalie or Hawkmoth are under great stress they detransform without using the transformation phrase. I wonder if that will be explored further.



Heart Hunter/Love Eater

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The first part of the episode with Marinette, Adrien and Kagami was fun.  Ladybug has never forgotten to change back to Marinette before seeing Master Fu but why did she forgot this time? 




Miracle Queen

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The first part of Season 4 better resolve all of the loose ends this episode leaves.

The best part of this episode was the Kwamiis refusing to obey Miracle Queen or tell her the transformation phrases.

Did the Magic Ladybugs erase the memories of Chole, Hawkmoth, and Mayura so they won’t remember who the holders are?

I figured that Master Fu would eventually name Marinette the next guardian but  I didn’t expect it to happen for quite a while yet.  It’s really sad that the previous guardian loses their memory.  Since Master Fu named Ladybug as the guardian and not Marinette does that mean Marinette will have to transform into Ladybug to use the box/give out the Miraculous items? Also, I'm not sure if Marinette is ready for the responsibility of the Miracle Box.


Is Adrien in love with Kagami?  When Kagami tells him she loves him, Adrien doesn’t exactly say  that he does. I’ve always felt Adrien and Marinette are meant to be together but at the end Marinette chooses to sit with Luka  instead of Kagami and Adrien.

It can’t end with Nathalie being so weak she can barely keep her eyes open and Gabriel saying he was able to fix the Peacock.

This finale leaves so many questions. :dizzy:




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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 08, 2020, 07:21:42 AM
I just heard there might be a Miraculous movie?

Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 08, 2020, 07:30:25 AM
I just heard there might be a Miraculous movie?

Ponyfan
Oh, yes, that's been in development for a bit?
We're also getting two (maybe three? I forget) hour-ish long specials.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 08, 2020, 09:46:09 AM
I just heard there might be a Miraculous movie?

Ponyfan
Oh, yes, that's been in development for a bit?
We're also getting two (maybe three? I forget) hour-ish long specials.


I'm looking forward to the movie and the specials. I was disappointed with how Season 3 ended and hope some of the loose ends will be resolved in either the movie, the specials or Season 4. 

I also thought I heard that were was going to be another widespread US release for Miraculous toys although that has probably been delayed to due the situation the world is in.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: bright rabbit 1 on May 17, 2020, 08:53:20 AM
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Trying to th8nk of who the new Queen Bee will be (it’s giving me a headache) I think it’s Adrien’s aunt but I can’t see that happening all that I know is that the new holder has platinum hair.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 29, 2020, 10:27:55 AM
I found this Covid 19 public service announcement from Miraculous on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaG06aK_Bus


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on June 15, 2020, 07:15:32 AM
Disney Channel in the US is now airing the Season 3 episodes.




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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on June 15, 2020, 08:38:51 AM
There's a poster for Season 4:
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Season 4 has been pushed to sometime in 2021.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on June 16, 2020, 10:42:06 AM
Interesting poster.  I hope Season 4 will also be on Netflix.  I enjoy watching the episodes more on Netflix because the commercial breaks on Disney take me out of the show.

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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on June 16, 2020, 10:30:58 PM
They're gonna have to fix the end of s3 before I'm interested in watching more stuff xD.

I mean, I figure it's gonna be fixed, it's just that I'm stubborn.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on September 11, 2020, 10:25:56 PM
I just discovered this song today. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcjFBDY4rWM

It looks like it's from the Miraculous movie?  It's very pretty.  The captioning has the English words. 

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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 12, 2020, 02:29:52 AM
I've nearly completely forgotten the show, wow. I know season one had a huge content drought but the Fandom was much larger.
That song is neat, I'm curious to see how the movie will continue to pan out.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on September 12, 2020, 12:51:28 PM
I know what you mean.  I still like the show  although there were several things in Season 3 that I didn't like but it's been a long time since we've had something new.  There was a "stop the spread of coronavirus" psa released in March or April.

I'm really curious about how the song is going to fit in context of the movie as some of the lyrics make me wonder exactly what is happening between Marinette/Ladybug and Adrien/Cat Noir.

I wish there was more merchandise in the US.  Since the show is now airing in the US on Disney Channel several times a day I think the merchandise would sell better now than it did when it was initially released. 


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 12, 2020, 12:58:03 PM
I think it would help if the show was just avaliable in english on Youtube! I feel like this show jumps from station to station so quickly, being caught up with it as an American fan involves just straight piracy. They could at least make ad revenue off Youtube and could push for more merchandise.
I wish I had picked up a Plagg keychain when he was at Target.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on September 12, 2020, 10:25:03 PM
I wish I had known what the show was when the toys showed up at Walmart.  I remember seeing Ladybug, Cat Noir and Rena Rouge action figures.  I had no idea what Miraculous Ladybug was back then so I didn't really pay attention to the toys.  By the time I found out what the show was about the toys were gone.  I know Funko released Pops of LB, CN and Hawk Moth a few years ago.


I'm hoping Disney Channel will be  Miraculous Ladybug's  permanent TV channel home even though the episode synopsizes make me laugh sometimes.  Recently one said that Kagami wanted to keep her sister away from Adrien and as far as I know Kagami doesn't even have a sister. :rofl:     

I also wish there were more official music for fans in the US.  I think France has the songs from the Christmas episode available for download but I can't find them for download in US.  I did find the extended English theme on iTunes last night by searching by the singer's name instead of by the title.

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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on September 18, 2020, 11:37:30 AM
Miraculous World is going to air soon on Disney.  I think this is one of the specials.  I don’t know anything about the plot but it looks like Ladybug and CN will end up in New York?


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 18, 2020, 11:54:00 AM
Next Friday at 8...I'll likely work during that time, I'm sure it'll end up on Youtube or Kimcartoon afterwards. 
Why the Z? They've not used "hip" language before.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on September 25, 2020, 07:16:21 PM
I recorded it and am hoping to watch it this weekend. 



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on October 03, 2020, 12:46:52 PM
Finally had a chance to watch Miraculous World

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The titles indicate that this is supposed to take place after the end of season 3 because it shows Ladybug with the Miracle box that changed when Fu made her the new guardian of the Miraculouses.  Also Nathalie is in bed every time she's shown but she is still able to transform into Mayura.

Marinette's class makes a film for French-American friendship week and is invited to New York.  Adrien is sure Gabriel will refuse to let him go.  Ladybug asks Cat Noir to watch over Paris while she's away for a few days.  Cat Noir agrees and says he'll call Ladybug  if an akumatized villain appears. 

Meanwhile Gabriel suspects that there might be more Miraculouses than just the ones Master Fu was the previous guardian of.  He decides to let Adrien go to New York with the class (so Adrien won't find out he's away) while Gabriel secretly also goes to New York to see the eagle talon that Lafayette gave to George Washington is actually a lost Miraculous.

Just before the plane arrives in New York, it is attacked by a villain and the passengers are rescued by superheros. 

Marinette insists that she's no longer in love with Adrien but only sees him as a friend.  Alya and Nino can see that isn't true and with a couple of the American teenagers come u[p with a plan to make Marinette confess her true feelings in front of Adrien.  The plan backfires however when an akumatized villain appears and steals Lafayette's sabor.

During the chaos Marinette and Adrien transform in to Ladybug and Cat Noir.  When Ladybug sees CN she gets mad at him for breaking his promise and leaving Paris unprotected   At the same time Nathalie transforms into Mayura and creates a sentimonster of Robustus to destroy Paris.  Gabriel steals the eagle talon and releases its kwami. 

This was interesting for one time viewing but I'm not sure I'll ne watching it more.  The voices all sound a little off in this but I've heard it's because the va's didn't have full access to a studio when they recorded their lines so the fine tuning that would have happened after the voice work was finished  is missing.   

Kagami was also really annoying.  Adrien was upset that he wasn't going to be able to go to New York and Kagami literally said.  "I'm sad for you, Adrien, but happy for us.  You need to practice your fencing more because it wasn't any fun beating you today."   

     



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on October 03, 2020, 01:20:43 PM
I am basically gonna wait until they sort out the romance thing, I hate the end of season 3 and I won't go back to it until they sort that out.

But I feel like I should comment on two things.

One, S3 eps were not aired in a coherent order, it's really hard to know how they're meant to fit together in places. Even with official lists.

And two, Disney has been the home of this since the start in the UK. What that meant was a lot of long waits for new episodes to air, and of course no straight to netflix. I have Disney on my cable package but I still found it annoying. I'm not sure it's a good permanent home :(
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on October 03, 2020, 07:51:54 PM
I heard that starting with Miraculous World Disney has exclusive rights to air the show and everything after season 3 will not be going to Netflix.  I don't know if that info is accurate though.

I'm not happy with how things are in the show right now either.  It was hard for me to enjoy the Marinette and Adrien scenes for the most part because
Spoiler
I feel that Marinette is unintentionally pushing Adrien away by her actions.  On the plane Marinette's seat is supposed to be next to Adrien and Adrien tells her how happy he is that they get to sit together during the flight.  Marinette gets nervous about sitting next to him and attracts the attention of the science teacher who asks what's going on.  Alya says Marinette gets airsick and needs to sit in the center of the plane.  At first the science teacher refuses but eventually gives her seat to Marinette.

Later Adrien asks Marinette to dance with him to the song that they danced to at Chole's birthday party and Marinette tries to back away from Adrien but he grabs her hand begins dancing with her.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on October 04, 2020, 06:28:12 AM
The Luka and Kagami stuff isn't that interesting to me. I like Kagami as a character and would love to see her and Marinette interact more even, but I feel like we aren't going to get that. Luka bores me...
I'm still hurt that the creator said that Chloe was irredeemable. That was a stupid direction to go in and I fear season 4 will be set up with similarly misigned payoff.
I've not watched the special yet but I've seen Gifs and discussion. I think the special sounds more enjoyable as a standalone thing rather than connected to post s3...the emotional stuff makes sense but could have been anywhere timewise.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 19, 2021, 11:49:26 AM
I know it's been a while since this topic was updated but I just saw a preview for Miraculous World: Shanghai: Lady Dragon


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCUOI0F8Dpo


Not sure if I'll watch this one since I wasn't impressed with the New York one but I thought I'd post the teaser here.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 19, 2021, 12:38:29 PM
Oh, more release shenanigans have taken place since our last post. Disney+ will release the series worldwide minus Brazil, China, and Korea, and Disney Channel will air the series on TV except for a few countries, including the USA. :/ I get ratings are everything but this show has been pretty large, I think? I'm confused as to why it keeps hopping from channel to channel to streaming.

I still haven't seen the NY special, oops. The Shanghai one is grabbing my attention a bit more, probably because I'm not huge on NY as a setting and the preview looks more interesting in terms of relevancy to the main plot.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 19, 2021, 02:17:25 PM
Are you saying that Disney + will get all the episodes but Disney Channel in the US will stop airing them on TV? :(   

I have no idea why the show jumps around so much.  I do know that KidsClick got in trouble with the FCC at one point  for airing shows including Miraculous that they claimed were educational but didn't meet the regulations for e/i TV.  I was hoping when Disney got the TV rights they would keep them worldwide

It does look like Hawkmoth's more involved in the Shanghai plot than he was in the New York one from the preview.  I'll probably give it a chance.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 19, 2021, 02:20:47 PM
According the article (https://kidscreen.com/2021/02/26/disney-gets-miraculous/), yes. :(
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 19, 2021, 03:45:54 PM
:(

Maybe there'll be another way to see the new episodes besides Disney +


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 21, 2021, 07:24:29 PM
I saw an ad on Facebook for the Playmates United Heroez Cat Noir, Ladybug, Rena Rouge and Queen Bee figures that listed them as "coming soon."  A few people commented and said that they had ordered them already from Walmart.com   I hope they will be in stores soon.  I'd love another chance to get Miraculous figures.

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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 23, 2021, 11:51:28 AM
Brazil will air "Furious Fu" today at 7:30 their time, which is 6:30 EST. I'll miss any streams but I'm sure I'll catch it on Youtube later.
The Rena Rouge doll looks nice, but none of the toys are really enchanting me.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 26, 2021, 03:27:47 PM
Is "Furious Fu" on Youtube yet?  Do you know if it's in English or another language?  I've got better at being able to keep up with subtitles but the last time I tried to watch an episode in French with English subs I kept getting lost.

There's a new Miraculous app on the App Store (It might also be on Google Play but I haven't checked for it there) called Miraculous Color by Number or something like that.  I downloaded it the other night.  At first I thought that it was going to be like the endless runner game with a paywall that stops you from being able to fully enjoy the app but I was able to unlock all of the pictures currently in the app without paying by coloring a few pics.   I'm not sure who the target audience is  as some of the pictures are really simple and some are really complicated.  There are pics to color from Season 3 too.  The theme song plays while you're in the app and you can answer a trivia question from the show for extra helpful items.

I haven't played Miraculous Crush for a while so I don't know if that's been updated. 


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on March 26, 2021, 03:50:25 PM
Dang, the upload I watched got claimed! :( It was in Brazillian Portuguese and I had to wait for fansubs.
There was an ad that played that spoiled basically *everything* in the season, or it at least felt that way.
Spoiler
It sounds like this will be more emotional and serious than previous ones.
Furious Fu was an interesting episode! We get a new recurring character out of it, I guess?
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 17, 2021, 09:50:41 AM
I found a pair of kids ML sunglasses today.  I was surprised to see them because  I haven't seen any merchandise for a long time.  I bought them just in case I don't see them again.  I looked around for other ML items but didn't see any.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 17, 2021, 10:04:13 AM
Oh, you reminded me that Lies and Truth came out in other countries.
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Good. Luka and Kagami are now out of the story more or less. At least romantically.
Which was weird? Because I thought this would be a season-long event, but I guess not.
I thought the episodes were interesting and did show off why the relationships didn't work out. I wish Kagami would stick around a bit more in some capacity though.
The fandom is very amused by Chat Noir and his milk stuff.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 17, 2021, 03:53:38 PM
I haven't seen the new episodes yet but

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I'm glad to hear that Luka is no longer a romantic interest for Marinette.  He's one of my least favorite characters on the show and I like him even less when he's trying to become romantically involved with Marinette.

I like Kagami.




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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 27, 2021, 04:20:50 PM
Miraculous World Shanghai will air on Disney Channel this weekend.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on May 27, 2021, 05:43:38 PM
I haven't actually seen any of the specials yet...but I am following the show as it comes out internationally. Not a fan of how scattered things are released, but I'm glad that it seems like we're getting somewhere plot-wise.

I think Disney Channel airs it some episodes soon in the US!
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 28, 2021, 03:40:17 PM
I hope so.  :)  I love the show but I've seen most of the episodes that air on Disney so many times.  I'd love to see some new episodes and the plot advance. 

I'm going to try to DVR Shanghai and watch it later although I wasn't impressed with the New York one at all.

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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on June 01, 2021, 12:15:47 PM
I´ve seen 4 episodes of season 4 and I don´t like the new music for the opening. :pout: I hope we get new merchandise.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on June 01, 2021, 02:13:53 PM
I didn't know they changed the opening music.  I love the original opening both in French and English.

I thought the cable box recorded Shanghai but when I checked last night it wasn't there.  We had a power outage on Saturday that might have erased it.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on June 08, 2021, 08:10:40 AM
We might see new episodes from season 4 on Disney Channel US on June 21st. :)


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on June 12, 2021, 01:35:44 PM
Went in Smyths toy store this week for the first time since September, and I was really surprised to see a whole bunch of ML toys. They were all superhero costume versions - I think Ladybug and Cat Noir (both individually and a double box), then Queen Bee and...the kitsune one whose name I forget right now, Marinette's friend's alter ego.

I've not seen so many ML toys since the show first launched, where they were around superficially for a while then vanished.

I guess this is UK toy distribution for you...

If Cat Noir had proper hair instead of moulded I'd probably have bought him.

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on June 14, 2021, 06:38:27 AM
I keep hoping I'll find the toys but so far I've only found a pair of kids sunglasses.



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on June 29, 2021, 12:42:48 PM
I haven't seen any of the new episodes yet.  I thought we had DVR service through the cable company but when I try to find the episodes the cable recorded I get an error message.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on July 26, 2021, 09:28:25 AM
The toys are starting to appear in the US.  :D  I found this Ladybug doll at Target.

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She was the only character there.  I'm hoping they will get CN also.



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Bekuno on July 26, 2021, 09:39:56 AM
I haven't seen any episodes that haven't aired in the US, but I did find a free comic book day comic recently for only $2! I'm not sure if it's a unique store or not, it seems most of the comics just rehash the episodes.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on July 31, 2021, 11:54:58 AM
I went back to Target today and saw Queen Bee and shelf tags for Ladybug Cat Noir and the Dress Up set.   I didn't get a pic of Queen Bee though.



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on August 03, 2021, 06:20:29 AM
I was checking the Target app yesterday and it said they had Cat, Queen Bee and Rena Rouge in stock.  They only had 4 of each doll and were sold out by Monday evening.

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My in store pic of Cat turned out blurry so here's the pic I took after I bought him.

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I'm pretty sure these are the same line of dolls that Taffeta saw because they are the superhero versions and Cat has molded hair. 


I still haven't seen any season 4 episodes.

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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on August 12, 2021, 07:02:14 AM
I finally got to see a couple of Season 4 episodes last night  "Gang of Secrets" and "Mr Pigeon 72"

Major spoiler ahead

Gang of Secrets
Spoiler

I was a little confused about it a first since I missed the episodes leading up to this one.  It took me a bit to figure out Shadow Moth is Gabriel using both the butterfly and peacock miraculous together. 

Has anyone seen Natalie in season 4? She wasn't in the episodes I watched and when I saw that Shadow Moth is now using both miraculouses at the same time I started wondering  if something has happened to her.

I was shocked that Marinette told Alya that she is Ladybug.  Then I remembered that Bunnix told Ladybug that one of the reasons she chose Alix was "because she knew how to keep a secret" so maybe revealing her secret to Alya will somehow lead up to Alix becoming Bunnix.   

I'm glad that Marinette and Luka are no longer involved romantically as well as Kagami and Adrien.   




Mister Pigeon

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This one was fun although I felt sorry for Kagami. I think in Marinette's mind she was trying to be a good friend to Kagami trying to get her back together with Adrien. 

I felt sorry for Adrien too being forced to work with the pigeons when he's allergic.   

At the end Ladybug gives Mr. Ramier a charm that is supposed to protect him from negative emotions.  I'm not sure how that fits in when I think the New York episode said he's been Mr. Pigeon 100 times?


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on September 28, 2021, 02:01:43 PM
Target has been restocking the dolls everyone once in a while.  I also found this set at Target.
 

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I like it but I didn't buy it.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 28, 2021, 09:07:09 PM
I kind of fell off the train, I'll have to catch up with some episodes soon. I wish this show wasn't so darn hard to keep up with.

It's fun to see stuff back in stores, although I'm not sure how well it's being released.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on September 29, 2021, 01:34:28 PM
Late to catch up with this but yes, those were the same as the dolls I saw in Smyths, Ponyfan :) I don't know if we still have them there because I haven't been out in a while thanks to our awesome govt removing the mask mandate and social distancing and thus making buses unsafe for families with immunocompromised people.

...If I ever get to go again I'll see if there's anything new.

There was also the double set of LB/CN. But the dolls looked the same as the individual ones.

 I wish they'd do the male dolls with hair not moulding.

I've not seen season 4 eps, I've no idea if they're airing here and haven't gone to look for them. Please let me know if/when they sort out the ridiculous social awkwards from season 3...if they do that then I'll probably start watching again, but for now that irked me too much.

Also though Season 3 aired in such a mad order I really don't know what order I ought to watch it in. So that made it a bit all over the place even though it has some nice episodes in it.

Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 29, 2021, 04:32:50 PM

The relationships set up in the finale of season 3...
Spoiler
Are ended in the first two episodes of s4.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Taffeta on September 29, 2021, 05:24:57 PM

The relationships set up in the finale of season 3...
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Are ended in the first two episodes of s4.

Thanks for that :)
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on October 11, 2021, 11:00:16 AM
I wish Disney Channel aired the episodes more consistently too.  In the US they are pretty random and sometimes the 2 part episodes don't even air on the same day.

I finally got to see Truth and Lies

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It's interesting that these 2 episodes are from Marinette and Adrien's point of view and fit together showing us what's happening at the same time to both characters.

I thought akumatized people don't remember who they really are when they are under Hawkmoth's/Shadowmoth's power  until the object is broken and Ladybug purifies the butterfly but both Luka and Kagami talk to other characters as Truth and Lies as themselves. Truth even tells Jagged Stone his name is Luka and asks if Jagged is the father that abandoned him as a baby.   


I wanted to give Adrien a hug when he said he feels he only truly be himself when he's CN and not Adrien.


Nathalie seems to be keeping track of Adrien's schedule through texts and calls but I haven't seen her on screen.  I have a feeling that something has happened to her but since it's not confirmed yet in the episodes I've seen so far I won't go in to that yet. 


At the begining of Truth Gabriel fixes the Peacock and that frees Dusuu from it.   Dusuu says that she felt really strange and had a dream that she was captured by "the bad guys"  Dusuu doesn't seem to realize that Gabriel is standing next to her and Noroo says something like "He's (Gabriel) the bad guy."   I've always thought that Noroo has seen both sides of Gabriel.  He doesn't like what Gabriel is doing as Hawkmoth/Shadow Moth but he knows that Gabriel isn't completely evil.

I love the moment when CN willingly jumps in to Lies' sphere that freezes all liars because he knows Ladybug will defeat Lies and save him and everyone else.   


I felt sorry for Kagami too when she said she loves to draw but her mother won't let her do it. 



I hope we will see more merchandise in the US. There is a Marinette listed in the Target app but I haven't seen her in store. 



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 23, 2022, 07:39:09 PM
I've finally had a chance to catch more Season 4 episodes.  I don't want to break down everything by episode so I'll just list the episodes I've seen and  my thoughts. 

I've seen "Furious Fu" "Sole Crusher"  "Crocoduel"  "Optigami" "SentiBubbler" and "Glaciator 2"


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It was fun seeing Fu again even if he can't remember anything about Ladybug, Cat Noir or the Miraculouses.  His villain form was interesting and the fact that he had a power that allowed him to see the objects Ladybug needed for her Lucky Charm to Work.


As I feared Natalie is sick from using the damaged Peacock and unable to leave her bed but still well enough to help Gabriel with his plan.   Natalie also seems to suffer when a sentimonster she created is destroyed but the same doesn't hold true for Gabriel.   It's interesting that they kept a record of all of the holders that revealed themselves under Miracle Queen's control.  In the episodes I've seen so far Natalie and Gabriel don't know CN, Ladbuy or Bunnix idenity.


I love how much Gabriel cares for Adrien and wants to keep him safe even when he's Shadowmoth.  When Natalie sends Optigami to an elevator because she hears voices and discovers Adrien and Marinette there, she tells Shadowmoth this and he tells Style Queen that the evlevator is empty. 

There's a moment in Glaciator 2 where Shadowmoth senses negative emotions, gets ready to send an akuma and then realizes that it's Adrien.  Shadowmoth doesn't release the akuma and instead scolds Adrien's bodyguard over the phone for not brining Adrien back immediately after fencing class.  Once Adrien returns home Gabriel tries to talk to him and tell him that even though he's busy Adrien can come to him if he needs to.  Because Adrien is upset over the way Ladybug has treat him as CN Adrien doesn't tell his father anything.

I feel like the charms Ladybug creates to stop people from being akumatized are going to play a major role in the overall plot.  Also the fact that Shadowmoth is reakumatizing everyone he has in the past.





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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on January 23, 2022, 08:40:35 PM
I've caught up with all episodes released worldwide so far...it's been a bit so they're blending together for me.
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Thoughts on the "Adrien is a Sentimonster" theory? I don't like it but it's all I hear about, ha
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 26, 2022, 10:29:17 AM
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I'm guessing the theory about Adrien being a Sentimonster means that the "real" Adrien is dead and the Adrien we see in the series is supposed to be a copy created by either Gabriel or Emilie? I don't buy that.  I know the sentimonster of Ladybug was somehow able to decide to stop being evil and tried to help the real Ladybug and CN before Mayura snuffed her out of existence but even taking that in to consideration I'm sure Adrien is fully human and not a Sentimonster  I don't think Fu would have chosen Adrien to become CN if he sensed something off about him. 

I wonder sometimes how Plagg, Nooroo and Dusu can all live in the same house with their holders and yet Plagg doesn't seem to be able to sense Nooroo and Dusu there and vice versa.     



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 05, 2022, 02:49:43 PM
In November I found the Fashion Flip Marinette doll. Today I found the matching Adrien. :)  Adrien has hair piece covers that fit over the holes for his cat ears when he isn't wearing them. 


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on February 08, 2022, 12:16:23 PM
Today I found the LB and CN set in one box with the hands sculpted differently so they can touch like they do when they say "Pound it" in the show.  It's tempting but I just spent money on Fashion Flip Adrien plus I have LB and CN separately already. 

I'm really happy to see the toys getter a wider US release.  :)


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 13, 2022, 07:20:02 AM
There's a second line of superhero dolls including Bunnix and Dragon Bug.

I watched "Shadow Moth's Final Attack"  Parts 1 and 2 last night.


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Gabriel creates an elaborate plan to try to force Ladybug to and the others to make a mistake so he can finally get the LB and CN Miraculouses to make the wish to revive Emilie. To protect Adrien from his scheme he decides to send him and Lila (I wish Lila would stop being a recurring character.) on an around the world trip for months to film a new perfume ad.  Adrien is sad and frustrated about having to leave everyone except Natalie and Lila behind while on his trip.

Shadow Moth akumatizes a little boy in to Risk and tells him to hide the akumatized object so LB won't be able to find it and take it away.  When Risk sings a small mark is placed on the listener's neck and they start doing and saying things that they normally wouldn't.  Adrien tells Marinette how unhappy he is with his father's plan but when Marinette tries to tell her friends no believes her.

Meanwhile CN is feeling more and more pushed aside by LB and disliking the fact that she is allowed to know the holder's true identities while he is not.

Felix pretends to be Adrien and meets Adrien in his room. Pretending to care about his cousin, Felix convinces Adrien that they should switch places as they used to do when they were little.  Felix promises that he will stand up to Gabriel and Adrien will be able to stay in Paris while pretending to be Felix. Adrien agrees and leaves the mansion disguised as Felix.

Instead of talking to Gabriel as agreed Felix uses his time as Adrien to snoop around Gabriel's office finding both the safe hidden behind the painting and the secret passage to Shadow's Moth's Lair/the butterfly room where Emelie is.  Discovering Emelie frightens him and he quickly returns to Gabriel's office.  He also steals the fake Butterfly and Peacock that Gabriel placed in the safe.

Under Risk's influence Kagami calls Adrien and tells him he's nothing more than a puppet.  Adrien decides to call off the charade and texts Felix to stop pretending to be him.  Felix deletes the message and leaves for the train.

Marinette, desperate to stop Adrien from leaving transforms in to LB and tries to stops "Adrien" (Felix) from boarding the train.  LB is unsuccessful and is devasted at the fact that Adrien is leaving.


Before leaving Felix stole Natalie's iPad that had the copy of the spell book and tries to use the fake Miraculous on the train.  Realizing his uncle tricked him Felix returns to his seat.


Shadow Moth creates Strike Back, a monster that can absorb the powers of the superheroes and is very destructive.  The citizens under Risk's power keep taking unnecessary chances causing LB and CN to have to rescue them.
 
LB accidently reveals that Rena Rouge (now Rena Furitive) is still using her power. Knowing this hurts CN even more because it's another secret he wasn't let in on.  CN feels like LB no longer trusts him and says he doesn't understand why.  He also mentions that he's never been akumatized while LB has a sudden flashback to Cat Blanc which CN obviously doesn't know about since LB changed the future to make sure it didn't happen.  CN and LB begin to argue.

Rena Furtive sees the mark on everyone's neck and tells LB.  At one point Rena is in danger and Carapace shouts out her name and uses Shelter to protect her.  This angers LB because no one else was supposed to know about Rena still using her power.  Rena apologizes and says she was unable to keep it a secret from Nino. 

LB eventually confronts Risk but fails to find the akumatized object. Her Lucky Charm tells her to go the past.  Realizing that "Adrien" didn't have the mark on his neck when got on the train, LB uses the powers of the Bunny and Horse to meet Adrien on the train and give him the Dog Miraculous.  Felix, still pretending to be Adrien accepts and LB explains how the power of the Dog allows Formidable to retrieve any object that his magic ball touches.  Together they travel to past and see that Risk hid the akumatized object.  Formidable throws the ball and the object and LB and he return to the present where Formidable summons the object and LB breaks it to free the akuma.   

LB comes up with a plan to defeat Strike Back.  While she's distracted Formidable touches her yoyo with his ball. CN sees Formidable and  how happy LB is to have him on the team.  CN detransforms and returns home. Strike Back is defeated and Shadow Moth is enraged that his plan failed again.

Alya gives Marinette the Fox because she feels she is no longer worthy to hold it.

When Gabriel returns home, he finds Formidable in his office who then reveals himself as Felix.  He promises his uncle all of the Miraculouses connected to the yoyo and Emelie's wedding ring in exchange for the real Peacock. 

Meanwhile LB finds Adrien in his room and asks him to return the Dog. Adrien is confused and says that LB didn't give it him. Adrien realizes that LB gave the Dog to Felix and not to him.  At that moment the yoyo disappears as Formidable summons it for Gabriel.  Gabriel begins taking the Miraculouses from the yoyo. 

LB has a panic attack and detransforms after Adrien tells her she'll be safe in his bathroom.  When she transforms again the yoyo returns but Gabriel has already removed all of the Miraculouses. Adrien realizes he can still help LB as CN since his Miraculous wasn't connected to the Yoyo.

LB is on a roof crying over her failure as a guardian. CN appears and tells her that he'll never leave her side and together they'll get the Miraculouses back. An image of Hawkmoth appears in the sky warning everyone that he now has all the Miraculouses expect for LB and CN.

I have to admit that I'm disappointed with the way the season finale turned out but I think it will be fixed eventually since we know that Alix doesn't have her Miraculous yet in the present and that Marinette is still the LB of the future.  I do wonder if Felix gaining the Peacock is foreshadowing him becoming the future Hawkmoth.

I'm pretty sure I saw Lady Dragon from Shanghai in the team.  These episodes also confirm that Marinette doesn't know that Adrien is CN.






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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 19, 2022, 09:26:45 AM
I heard some rumors that several of the recurring VAs for the English dub have threated to quit because they were not getting the same about of pay as the main characters. 

Season 5 is supposed to premier late this year. 

It sounds like the movie will just be a retelling of how Marinette and Adrien got their powers instead of a new story.


I found Miraculous coloring book at Walmart the other day.  It was only $.97


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on April 19, 2022, 02:15:42 PM
Ah, yes, #PayUpZag. I think they are getting raises now, thankfully. :)

It's fun seeing ML merch in the US again! The doll with flippable sequins is neat.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on July 18, 2022, 06:35:43 AM
I noticed Target was having a sale on most of the Ladybug dolls.  They put Queen Bee on clearance a couple of weeks ago.  They also have shelf tags that say Miraculous movie dolls.  I hope this means that we'll get new dolls that go along with the movie.

Is it true that the movie will basically be a retelling of the events of season 1?  I was hoping for a new story instead.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on August 09, 2022, 06:27:19 AM
Amazon has some new listing for Miraculous dolls and toys.  :)  It looks like we will be getting some new things due to the movie coming out.



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on August 09, 2022, 09:40:19 AM
I haven't seen the new season yet. I did read the leaked bible though. I'm evil.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on August 15, 2022, 03:19:30 PM
Is it okay to post Amazon links here to some of the new toys? 

Walmart's Great Value smoothie yogurt has Ladybug and Cat Noir on the bottles.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on September 05, 2022, 06:32:53 AM
I heard season 5 will air in October in the US on Disney Channel.

Here's some of the new toys coming out.

LB and CN set

https://www.amazon.com/Miraculous-Ladybug-2-Pack-Giftset-Accessory/dp/B0B3PMDVR5/ref=sr_1_18_sspa?crid=3CX9X3OP8VXN2&keywords=miraculous+ladybug+dolls&qid=1662384487&sprefix=%2Caps%2C290&sr=8-18-spons&psc=1



Talk and Sparkle LB

https://www.amazon.com/Miraculous-Ladybug-Deluxe-Talking-Fashion/dp/B09JRZC9YT/ref=sr_1_19_sspa?crid=3CX9X3OP8VXN2&keywords=miraculous+ladybug+dolls&qid=1662384558&sprefix=%2Caps%2C290&sr=8-19-spons&psc=1



LB with Scooter

https://www.amazon.com/Scooter-Exclusive-Ladybug-Fashion-Accessories/dp/B0B3PXMHT8/ref=sr_1_32?crid=3CX9X3OP8VXN2&keywords=miraculous+ladybug+dolls&qid=1662384558&sprefix=%2Caps%2C290&sr=8-32



Character doll in the spoiler tags for those that haven't seen all of Season 4


Spoiler

https://www.amazon.com/Miraculous-Ladybug-Vesperia-Doll/dp/B097WH9YFY/ref=sr_1_6?crid=M6KOW1VSIA84&keywords=miraculous+ladybug+dolls&qid=1662384714&sprefix=miraculous+ladybug+dolls%2Caps%2C211&sr=8-6



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on September 05, 2022, 10:52:56 AM
I haven't seen any season 5 episodes yet since my GF was visiting when they were airing. :P
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on September 06, 2022, 02:05:02 PM
There is the  kwami surprise box, now has Kaalki, Xuppu, Roarr and Mullo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js-aqaNXw-k
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on September 10, 2022, 06:54:02 PM
I didn't know the Kwami surprise boxes had new kwamis in them.

I saw several LB costumes at Walmart today.  :D



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on September 16, 2022, 03:18:02 PM
Here's a pic of the Walmart yogurt.

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I'd like to buy one so I could keep the bottle, but I'm hesitating because I know I'd end up wasting the yogurt because the flavors don't appeal to me.


I also saw a Ladybug toothbrush. :D


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on October 01, 2022, 12:00:24 PM
I found some new things today.  I was happy to see the CN costume as I've only seen the ones for the girl characters so far.


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The LB costume is $20.  I just hung it there to grab a pic.

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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on October 08, 2022, 03:47:39 PM
It looks like season 5 episodes started airing today on Disney Channel.   I'm going to wait for them to show up on Disney + so I don't have to watch the commercials.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on November 07, 2022, 09:24:48 AM
I found a CN costume on clearance after Halloween. :D 


Has anyone heard anything about the new Switch game?  It looks interesting, but I don't want to buy it and it turns out to be game intended for 5 year olds.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 08, 2022, 07:12:16 AM
I found a CN costume on clearance after Halloween. :D 


Has anyone heard anything about the new Switch game?  It looks interesting, but I don't want to buy it and it turns out to be game intended for 5 year olds.


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The game is intended for 5 year olds. People on Tumblr (Buggachat, if you want to look) posted quite a bit and got a kick out of the dialogue, but the gameplay isn't worth it.
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on November 08, 2022, 09:07:43 AM




The game is intended for 5 year olds. People on Tumblr (Buggachat, if you want to look) posted quite a bit and got a kick out of the dialogue, but the gameplay isn't worth it.


You just saved me $50.  I wish the game was one that adults could enjoy playing as well as kids like Mario and Kirby.  I'll have to check out Buggachat. :)


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on December 30, 2022, 11:42:50 AM
Season 5 episodes 1-9 have been added to Disney +.  :)



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on December 30, 2022, 12:16:33 PM
I've read the scripts for the last episode of season 5. :P Making your password "miraculous123" is not very safe, Zagtoons.

(The remaining scripts and some storyboards were leaked by the same Turkish guy that leaks everything else.)
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on January 07, 2023, 03:15:43 PM
I can't believe Zagtoons used that as their password :lol:

I found the Lady Dragon doll today.  She was the only one at Target.  I'm not sure if they put her out too early since they're restocking the shelves with new toys. I looke for her on Amazon since I couldn't find a shelf tag and she wasn't in stock on the US site.

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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 04, 2023, 01:42:10 PM
Build a Bear has a MLB Bear and LB and CN costumes for their animals as well as a T shirt with LB and CN



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: alkevin on March 09, 2023, 11:30:58 AM
Kinder is releasing  a new collection: https://www.kinder.com/pt/pt/kinder-surpresa-miraculous
Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on March 10, 2023, 07:26:00 PM
I wonder if the toys will be in Kinder eggs in the US?  I don' t check them very often because the toys don't  seem to be good quality and I've been disappointed by other companies that put toys inside chocolate like Yowies.  I wasn't impressed with the taste of Yowie chocolate.



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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on April 21, 2023, 09:56:27 AM
The season 5 2 part episode "The Kwamis Choice" airs this weekend in the US on Disney Channel.


Amazon has some new dolls including Vesperia, Multimouse and Purple Tigress.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on May 05, 2023, 03:35:35 PM
I found this at the grocery store today and it made me smile. :)


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on August 01, 2023, 03:23:26 PM
The movie is out on US Netflix.  I haven't seen it yet, but from what I've heard so far it's a retelling of stuff that already happened in the series and doesn't exactly match up with the series on some parts of the plot.

I've been waiting for an English version of "The Walls that Lie Between/Separate US" for quite a while as the original is in French and  I can't understand enough French to know what the lyrics are.  I thought it was a song from the movie, but it's not on the soundtrack.


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Title: Re: Miraculous Ladybug: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir Contains spoilers
Post by: Ponyfan on August 05, 2023, 10:46:00 AM
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I found these today.  Not sure if I'll get them since I have the other dolls that have been out for ages. 


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