Umm...didn't they already reboot that series once? The original series is still the best (in all it's cheesy 80's-ness) so they just need to leave it alone.
Umm...didn't they already reboot that series once? The original series is still the best (in all it's cheesy 80's-ness) so they just need to leave it alone.
They did and it was pretty good. This on the other hand...
Umm...didn't they already reboot that series once? The original series is still the best (in all it's cheesy 80's-ness) so they just need to leave it alone.
They did and it was pretty good. This on the other hand...
I have to admit I didn't watch the last reboot--I didn't have time and I didn't make an effort (and the original was my childhood, so I didn't much want to). But this one just looks like it's going to be terrible.
It's gonna be Teen Titans Go all over again, isn't it?. Sigh.
I was hoping this meant they were going to continue the reboot series they started back in 2011. (Why do they cancel everything good :cry:)
Wow....I didn't check out the video, but just seeing the animation style ticks me off. It's so awful! Just...I have no words.
Wow....I didn't check out the video, but just seeing the animation style ticks me off. It's so awful! Just...I have no words.
I watched part of it, until I got to the creator's pitch "I was such a huge fan of the original when growing up..." Sorry buddy, if you were, it sure doesn't reflect on the final result.
ohhh this looks like another Cartoon Network IP.... uhhhhhh The Amazing World of Gumball the Cat...
Eh, the creator is a big fan and he is right that the original was really goofy. So this is a spoof reboot and I can get behind that.
I liked the 2010 reboot fine but in hindsight that horrible love triangle they put Cheetara in was crap and it was good they cancelled it.
As for people calling it lazy or unimaginative... you do know the 80s toons were already done in Asian countries because that was cheaper and lazier, right? And that's why old 80s toons all tended to have that comicbook meets anime look. Also, Thundercats, He-Man, She-Ra, Silverhawks and so on were all basically the same formula :lol: We are just so attached to them because we watched it as children. It wasn't better, it was just another time period.
Quote from: Zapper ilink=topic=391622.msg1716265#msg1716265 date=1526742448Eh, the creator is a big fan and he is right that the original was really goofy. So this is a spoof reboot and I can get behind that.
I liked the 2010 reboot fine but in hindsight that horrible love triangle they put Cheetara in was crap and it was good they cancelled it.
As for people calling it lazy or unimaginative... you do know the 80s toons were already done in Asian countries because that was cheaper and lazier, right? And that's why old 80s toons all tended to have that comicbook meets anime look. Also, Thundercats, He-Man, She-Ra, Silverhawks and so on were all basically the same formula :lol: We are just so attached to them because we watched it as children. It wasn't better, it was just another time period.
Its a heck of a lot prettier Zapper. I don't understand why ugly and deformed is the norm. Not to mention treating kids like they're dumber then a pile of bricks.
The creator definitely is Not a fan. Not any more then Jon Chu was a fan of Jem.
Quote from: Zapper ilink=topic=391622.msg1716265#msg1716265 date=1526742448Eh, the creator is a big fan and he is right that the original was really goofy. So this is a spoof reboot and I can get behind that.
I liked the 2010 reboot fine but in hindsight that horrible love triangle they put Cheetara in was crap and it was good they cancelled it.
As for people calling it lazy or unimaginative... you do know the 80s toons were already done in Asian countries because that was cheaper and lazier, right? And that's why old 80s toons all tended to have that comicbook meets anime look. Also, Thundercats, He-Man, She-Ra, Silverhawks and so on were all basically the same formula :lol: We are just so attached to them because we watched it as children. It wasn't better, it was just another time period.
Its a heck of a lot prettier Zapper. I don't understand why ugly and deformed is the norm. Not to mention treating kids like they're dumber then a pile of bricks.
The creator definitely is Not a fan. Not any more then Jon Chu was a fan of Jem.
Well ugly is not the same as lazy to me. CN has an interesting approach to creating cartoons nowadays. The storyboarders are essentially the writers, animation is still being done overseas but there is more control over style, plot and character development, which I like.
Most of the style is due to CalArts. It's at a point where people in animation are openly hating on it and I can understand. I have no horse in that race as some modern cartoons I enjoy have that CalArts style and are still amazing to me (Star vs the Forces of Evil on Disney XD, for example). Also there was a time when everything on CN was cynical slapstick cartoon violence with really thick outlines. Samurai Jack and Teen Titans were the only toons of that era I liked. Most of those older toons are unwatchable to me nowadays because they had no story and had annoying characters and all had thick sharpie outlines and looked really deformed.
CN has all those CalArts people do properties on what they love. That's very imaginative to me and better than the same formula disguised as different series (80s), slapstick cartoons (90s) or cynical nastiness (00s).
As for that guy not being a fan... well he said he is and showed his collection. Some fans love to poke fun at the things they love (like me!) so I need to wait and judge after seeing a few episodes.
I am just tired of every reboot getting booed before it even aired. The 2010 reboot of Thundercats was trashed by fans, had bad viewership and now suddenly everyone likes it. So predictable :lol:
I mean... people in this very thread have praised Johnny Test over modern CN.
Johnny. Freaking. Test.
A poorly flash animated rip-off of Dexter's Laboratory. Yeah no, I will watch the new Thundercats if Johnny Test fans hate it already! It can only be better than JT :lol: ;)
Well ugly is not the same as lazy to me. CN has an interesting approach to creating cartoons nowadays. The storyboarders are essentially the writers, animation is still being done overseas but there is more control over style, plot and character development, which I like.
Most of the style is due to CalArts. It's at a point where people in animation are openly hating on it and I can understand. I have no horse in that race as some modern cartoons I enjoy have that CalArts style and are still amazing to me (Star vs the Forces of Evil on Disney XD, for example). Also there was a time when everything on CN was cynical slapstick cartoon violence with really thick outlines. Samurai Jack and Teen Titans were the only toons of that era I liked. Most of those older toons are unwatchable to me nowadays because they had no story and had annoying characters and all had thick sharpie outlines and looked really deformed.
CN has all those CalArts people do properties on what they love. That's very imaginative to me and better than the same formula disguised as different series (80s), slapstick cartoons (90s) or cynical nastiness (00s).
As for that guy not being a fan... well he said he is and showed his collection. Some fans love to poke fun at the things they love (like me!) so I need to wait and judge after seeing a few episodes.
I am just tired of every reboot getting booed before it even aired. The 2010 reboot of Thundercats was trashed by fans, had bad viewership and now suddenly everyone likes it. So predictable :lol:
I mean... people in this very thread have praised Johnny Test over modern CN.
Johnny. Freaking. Test.
A poorly flash animated rip-off of Dexter's Laboratory. Yeah no, I will watch the new Thundercats if Johnny Test fans hate it already! It can only be better than JT :lol: ;)
wait people thing Johnny Test is GOOD???
my beef is that the creator is saying that its completely inline with the original show.
It's not! yes 80's thundercats was campy and goofy at its best,but it still dealt with serious issues. but this crud they're starting to pull with shows is basically give kids something simple minded to look at and that's it.
do I wish this series to fail? NO. I actually do think kids will watch it and be entertained its just not my cup of tea, I will try and catch a couple eps but that is about it.
I can't stand the style, its gone cookie cutter, everyone is trying to eat off the success of SU so they copy the style even Disney is doing it with their new shows.
I wanted to like it but I cringed at the opening theme it was like... HOW does this compare to the original? i said it in one post and I'll say it again, I think that song would have worked in a looney tunes/tiny toons episode. not a stand alone theme maybe they'll get a better theme.
I actually liked the 2011 reboot, I didn't care for the love triangle someone else mentioned, but when I heard there was another go at Thundercats? I thought they were going through with another freaking season and giving THAT reboot a proper ending instead of the cliff hanger we got. and then i saw the announcement and went WHAT. NO.
I swear to Greyskull that Netflix gets She-Ra right.
wait people thing Johnny Test is GOOD???
my beef is that the creator is saying that its completely inline with the original show.
It's not! yes 80's thundercats was campy and goofy at its best,but it still dealt with serious issues. but this crud they're starting to pull with shows is basically give kids something simple minded to look at and that's it.
do I wish this series to fail? NO. I actually do think kids will watch it and be entertained its just not my cup of tea, I will try and catch a couple eps but that is about it.
I can't stand the style, its gone cookie cutter, everyone is trying to eat off the success of SU so they copy the style even Disney is doing it with their new shows.
I wanted to like it but I cringed at the opening theme it was like... HOW does this compare to the original? i said it in one post and I'll say it again, I think that song would have worked in a looney tunes/tiny toons episode. not a stand alone theme maybe they'll get a better theme.
I actually liked the 2011 reboot, I didn't care for the love triangle someone else mentioned, but when I heard there was another go at Thundercats? I thought they were going through with another freaking season and giving THAT reboot a proper ending instead of the cliff hanger we got. and then i saw the announcement and went WHAT. NO.
I swear to Greyskull that Netflix gets She-Ra right.
I want to add, that while I'm sick of rebooted shows getting dumbed down and made stupider <- my dad's words, I don't actually want the show to fail. Because that was one of the key reasons the 2011 Reboot failed, people railed about it and refused to watch and it got canceled. I also blame the crappy time slot it was given as key to its demise, but this reboot has the potential to get the younger generation looking at it and then going to see what the original was like. and like we've done when rewatching shows we watched as kids crack up at how campy it is.
ah the downfall of many a decent show no toy sales. i don't think i ever saw any toys for them other than the ridiculously over priced thunderfangwait people thing Johnny Test is GOOD???
my beef is that the creator is saying that its completely inline with the original show.
It's not! yes 80's thundercats was campy and goofy at its best,but it still dealt with serious issues. but this crud they're starting to pull with shows is basically give kids something simple minded to look at and that's it.
do I wish this series to fail? NO. I actually do think kids will watch it and be entertained its just not my cup of tea, I will try and catch a couple eps but that is about it.
I can't stand the style, its gone cookie cutter, everyone is trying to eat off the success of SU so they copy the style even Disney is doing it with their new shows.
I wanted to like it but I cringed at the opening theme it was like... HOW does this compare to the original? i said it in one post and I'll say it again, I think that song would have worked in a looney tunes/tiny toons episode. not a stand alone theme maybe they'll get a better theme.
I actually liked the 2011 reboot, I didn't care for the love triangle someone else mentioned, but when I heard there was another go at Thundercats? I thought they were going through with another freaking season and giving THAT reboot a proper ending instead of the cliff hanger we got. and then i saw the announcement and went WHAT. NO.
I swear to Greyskull that Netflix gets She-Ra right.
I want to add, that while I'm sick of rebooted shows getting dumbed down and made stupider <- my dad's words, I don't actually want the show to fail. Because that was one of the key reasons the 2011 Reboot failed, people railed about it and refused to watch and it got canceled. I also blame the crappy time slot it was given as key to its demise, but this reboot has the potential to get the younger generation looking at it and then going to see what the original was like. and like we've done when rewatching shows we watched as kids crack up at how campy it is.
Actually, the toyline failing was the cause of its demise.
ah the downfall of many a decent show no toy sales. i don't think i ever saw any toys for them other than the ridiculously over priced thunderfangwait people thing Johnny Test is GOOD???
my beef is that the creator is saying that its completely inline with the original show.
It's not! yes 80's thundercats was campy and goofy at its best,but it still dealt with serious issues. but this crud they're starting to pull with shows is basically give kids something simple minded to look at and that's it.
do I wish this series to fail? NO. I actually do think kids will watch it and be entertained its just not my cup of tea, I will try and catch a couple eps but that is about it.
I can't stand the style, its gone cookie cutter, everyone is trying to eat off the success of SU so they copy the style even Disney is doing it with their new shows.
I wanted to like it but I cringed at the opening theme it was like... HOW does this compare to the original? i said it in one post and I'll say it again, I think that song would have worked in a looney tunes/tiny toons episode. not a stand alone theme maybe they'll get a better theme.
I actually liked the 2011 reboot, I didn't care for the love triangle someone else mentioned, but when I heard there was another go at Thundercats? I thought they were going through with another freaking season and giving THAT reboot a proper ending instead of the cliff hanger we got. and then i saw the announcement and went WHAT. NO.
I swear to Greyskull that Netflix gets She-Ra right.
I want to add, that while I'm sick of rebooted shows getting dumbed down and made stupider <- my dad's words, I don't actually want the show to fail. Because that was one of the key reasons the 2011 Reboot failed, people railed about it and refused to watch and it got canceled. I also blame the crappy time slot it was given as key to its demise, but this reboot has the potential to get the younger generation looking at it and then going to see what the original was like. and like we've done when rewatching shows we watched as kids crack up at how campy it is.
Actually, the toyline failing was the cause of its demise.
I'm sick of reboots, period. Bring some originality to the table instead of resurrecting someone else's creation. That goes for movies and TV shows.
I'm sick of reboots, period. Bring some originality to the table instead of resurrecting someone else's creation. That goes for movies and TV shows.
I agree.
Or reboot (I kind of hate this word) something that needs it. There are a lot of older bad shows and movies that had solid ideas, or ideas that couldn't be conveyed due to technology limits. That's my main issues with remake movies in particular, especially in horror.
Both my mom and I are disgusted by this. Then I showed it to a coworker friend. She replied "That's so cute!" Really? Thundercats aren't supposed to be cute.
https://twitter.com/NicoColaleo/status/997544040491974656
Apparently this guy working on it says he hates it. Proof positive that the people they hire are tasteless trash. Sounds to me like they're jealous of people who are actually talented and successful.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I don't like the looks of this show, but calling a human being "tasteless trash" because you don't like a cartoon they're working on is really rude and inappropriate. How would you react if a brony said that about someone who worked on G1 or G3?
I truly appreciate that, LaW! <3 You're good people.
I've heard there's been a lot of backlash about this, and I'm not sure I understand why.
I've heard there's been a lot of backlash about this, and I'm not sure I understand why.
Just saw this article today: https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/thundercats-roar-backlash-calarts/
I can relate to a lot of what the author of the article is saying... I don’t really understand why fans get ANGRY about things like this. It’s not like they’re taking away the original series—they’re just making something new. *Shrug* No matter how good or bad the new show is, I’m no poorer for it having been made. Maybe they’ll even give the original series a new DVD or Blu Ray release, if Thundercats becomes popular again.
Offtopic...SpoilerVictor Courtright has taken the hipster top-knot too far. I like the style, my partner has the style, I had the style... but his is unbalanced and I want to shave him.
Maybe it will end up like that reboot of Rainbow Brite that was supposed to happen and never really did.
To end my rant on a funny note: what if this were to be the animation style for MLP G5:
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Maybe it will end up like that reboot of Rainbow Brite that was supposed to happen and never really did.
Which reboot? The first one that was just a few awful webisodes and a handful of dolls or the second one that looked good and actually got a series but it was limited to their paid streaming service and had no dolls at all.
Articles and youtube vids on the backlash are popping up everywhere. Little rant on how I feel the backlash is being handled.
I'm not a Tundercats fan but I did watch the eighties cartoon. I can only say that I find the reboot unappealing, both in style and in tone. I've voiced my opinion, and for me, that's that. But longtime fans will certainly have a lot more to say about it, and I can understand that.
The mean reactions directed towards individuals working on the show is simply unacceptable. That's bullying, period, so I won't defend that. But the backlash doesn't consist of *only* that type of reaction. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's a minority even. A lot of people are voicing their disagreement. However, it seems that disagreeing opinions are quite easily regarded as hate comments nowadays, or at the very least as unwaranted responses, just because it's a disagreement. There is a big difference though IMO between hate comments, hurtful backlash and a negative opinion. Even worse is when opinions are exaggarated or ridiculed as a defense tactic; I have not read *one* single comment on Thundercats Roar about it ruining someone's childhood. However, comments like "I hate it, what are you doing to Thundercats?" are mentally translated into "you ruined my childhood" by those who don't accept the fact that their work is not pleasing a remarkably large crowd. And when you ridicule an opinion, you relieve yourself of having to take it seriously.
And people disagreeing with you is to be expected when you drastically reboot a known IP, regardless of whether the fanbase is big or small. Producers behind a reboot should take that into consideration from the start by now and maybe even set up an action plan to deal with it in case it happens.
To end my rant on a funny note: what if this were to be the animation style for MLP G5:
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I dunno, with all the pure ugly and stupidly written reboot shows that are coming up, Mega Man Fully Charged, Thundercats Roar, TMNT whats-it, ya can't blame people for being thoroughly fed up with this kinda crap.
I'm still trying to figure out why the 2010 reboot guy wanted Wily-Kit to be Lion-O's child bride in the third season that luckily never happened.
I'm still trying to figure out why the 2010 reboot guy wanted Wily-Kit to be Lion-O's child bride in the third season that luckily never happened.
The reboot made Snarf an ok character. Everybody hated original Snarf. What really sucks is how both reboots took away Lion-O's midriff. It's so important!
The newest Snarf is really cute in that style. I can't say the same about the rest. I wonder what Mumm-Ra looks like?
Skeletor needs his own TV show.
Skeletor needs his own TV show.
Skeletor needs his own TV show.
He needs his own Dr. Phil like talkshow! His reaction to every guest would be like "this is uninteresting and I hate you".
Skeletor needs his own TV show.
He needs his own Dr. Phil like talkshow! His reaction to every guest would be like "this is uninteresting and I hate you".
:lol:
Skeletor needs his own TV show.
He needs his own Dr. Phil like talkshow! His reaction to every guest would be like "this is uninteresting and I hate you".
:lol:
"You fools!"
This is reminding me of the adverts for Money Supermarket in the UK, with Heman and Skeletor dancing...
I really wish these young people, who are involved with a lot of the reboots, would just leave my favorite characters alone and go make something new. I will always have the originals and I skip most of the reboot stuff, but I have a hard time looking at it and thinking 'these folks are fans.' If you truly are a fan of something then why go to such great lengths to basically trash the properties. We have seen it time and time again with reboots. Just make your owns stuff and stop relying on my sense of nostalgia which you will only spit on with your horrible animation and 'story telling.' *le sigh*
I really wish these young people, who are involved with a lot of the reboots, would just leave my favorite characters alone and go make something new. I will always have the originals and I skip most of the reboot stuff, but I have a hard time looking at it and thinking 'these folks are fans.' If you truly are a fan of something then why go to such great lengths to basically trash the properties. We have seen it time and time again with reboots. Just make your owns stuff and stop relying on my sense of nostalgia which you will only spit on with your horrible animation and 'story telling.' *le sigh*
I really wish these young people, who are involved with a lot of the reboots, would just leave my favorite characters alone and go make something new. I will always have the originals and I skip most of the reboot stuff, but I have a hard time looking at it and thinking 'these folks are fans.' If you truly are a fan of something then why go to such great lengths to basically trash the properties. We have seen it time and time again with reboots. Just make your owns stuff and stop relying on my sense of nostalgia which you will only spit on with your horrible animation and 'story telling.' *le sigh*
I really wish these young people, who are involved with a lot of the reboots, would just leave my favorite characters alone and go make something new. I will always have the originals and I skip most of the reboot stuff, but I have a hard time looking at it and thinking 'these folks are fans.' If you truly are a fan of something then why go to such great lengths to basically trash the properties. We have seen it time and time again with reboots. Just make your owns stuff and stop relying on my sense of nostalgia which you will only spit on with your horrible animation and 'story telling.' *le sigh*
Just because someone is a fan of a thing doesn't mean they see the thing the way other fans do.
Oh, I definitely agree that it's okay to go a bit different with a reboot, it'd be boring if it was just the exact same as the original XP But there's a point where it crosses from "updated ver of classic chars" to "[show] in name only", y'know?
Oh, I definitely agree that it's okay to go a bit different with a reboot, it'd be boring if it was just the exact same as the original XP But there's a point where it crosses from "updated ver of classic chars" to "[show] in name only", y'know?
Oh, I definitely agree that it's okay to go a bit different with a reboot, it'd be boring if it was just the exact same as the original XP But there's a point where it crosses from "updated ver of classic chars" to "[show] in name only", y'know?
Honestly the problem is even if it was a new show with new characters it looks bad. It looks like a knock off Steven Universe. Imho a reboot needs to have just as much effort put into it as a new property. Not a halfhearted effort hoping to cash in on nostalgia.