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Title: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: starrynights on January 08, 2021, 04:47:31 PM
I got a baby moondancer from a friend who found her old ponies.
I scrubbed it with a magic eraser and dawn soap and gave a oxiclean bath.
But, the pony has these brown spots and a purple stain.
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What are they? Is it contagious? How do I remove it?
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: NanoRuby on January 08, 2021, 05:15:54 PM
I have a baby Glory with the exact same spots on her face. Maybe they're just odd age spots? If they are, then there's not much you can do about it unfortunately. Baby Moondancer burns easily in the sun from what I've heard, so you can't sunfade her. I could be wrong about them being age spots though.

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Yes, she has Baby Moondancer's tail.
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: BlackCurtains on January 08, 2021, 05:40:34 PM
Those are age spots, vinyl decay. Unfortunately, there's nothing you can really do about it. Some people have some success by poking a hole in the center of the dot and putting hydrogen peroxide on it. I've never tried that myself though.

Edit: It's not contagious.
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: starrynights on January 08, 2021, 05:47:14 PM
Thank you! So, shes safe to display with my other ponies? I'll try the hydrogen peroxide trick with a needle.
Luckily all the spots are on her non display side
Also, is her hair faded? My adult Moondancer has dark red satin color hair.
Thanks again xx
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: rybett on January 08, 2021, 05:48:40 PM
Baby has lighter hair than mama.
Title: Re: What\'s wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: starrynights on January 08, 2021, 05:49:16 PM
Baby has lighter hair than mama.
That makes sense, thanks for letting me know :)

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Does anyone know what color she turns to when getting "sun burnt"? If it'll make her a even color and hide the spots I might try it since she also has discoloring and damage to her paint and such
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: NanoRuby on January 08, 2021, 06:05:53 PM
I have a Baby M that I think has been sunburned (got her secondhand from a lot so I'm not sure). It's pretty splotchy, definitely not even. I'll post a picture if I can find her.
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: starrynights on January 08, 2021, 06:20:08 PM
I have a Baby M that I think has been sunburned (got her secondhand from a lot so I'm not sure). It's pretty splotchy, definitely not even. I'll post a picture if I can find her.
Thank you for letting me know :)
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: BlackCurtains on January 08, 2021, 07:10:56 PM
Yeah, sun burnt ponies go shades of brown. If anything it will probably make the spots darker.
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: MintyMyndi on January 08, 2021, 07:16:30 PM
Try it at your own risk, but some people have had success removing cancer with hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide can even prevent or remove sunburn! The most common method is a hydrogen peroxide soak, with the pony in a transparent container in the sun, but it has some drawbacks, including:
-Drying out the hair
-Killing mane glue
-Damaging Twinkle Eyes, Princess symbols, and loosening glitter symbols
-Causing vulnerable colors to fade
-Causing neon colors to bleed
-Pretty sure it's not good for flocking, either
A lot of this can be avoided by removing the hair and replacing it afterward, but that's an issue in and of itself.

Another method you can use is similar to a normal sunfade. Cover her hair with foil and the painted areas with thin, cheap acrylic paints, which will come off with rubbing alcohol when you're done (though I don't know how safe this is on glitter symbols). Instead of just placing her as-is, cover her surface with hydrogen peroxide gel or cream; I've seen a recipe for a homemade gel somewhere, and creams can be found in beauty stores as hair bleaching cream. You'll need to reapply it every twenty-four hours. This method is a bit safer, but it may be slower due to the lack of penetration.

Whatever method you use, though, you should keep track of it and disclose that it's been done should you decide to sell the pony. It also should be noted that spots have been known to return months after the treatment, but a temporary fix is better than no fix, right? There are still uncertainties when it comes to long-term side effects, but if the risk is worth it to you, then go for it!

More info here: http://www.mlppreservationproject.com/body.html#SunFading

Good luck!
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on January 08, 2021, 07:28:03 PM
she has freckles ;)  normal for a 35+ year plastic toy
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: starrynights on January 08, 2021, 08:47:22 PM
I would try sun fading, but I'm worried her back will turn a different color than the front since only the back needs it.
Do you put the the cream all over or just on the spots?
Thank you for all the help :)
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: NanoRuby on January 08, 2021, 09:32:56 PM
Got a picture of my Baby Moondancer.

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It didn't show up as well in the photo as I had hoped, but there's brown speckling all along her side.
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: LadyAmalthea on January 08, 2021, 09:54:57 PM
I have actually had good luck sun fading a Baby Moondancer. I wonder if she has more than one version, like Starshine, where some of them burn and some don't; I also have another really baity Baby M who is a consistent brown color all over, and I wonder if she got sun burned in a past life before she came to me. I haven't tried cleaning her up yet.

As for the brown spots, I don't think there's much you can do about them.
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: MintyMyndi on January 08, 2021, 10:02:40 PM
I would try sun fading, but I'm worried her back will turn a different color than the front since only the back needs it.
Do you put the the cream all over or just on the spots?
Thank you for all the help :)
I'd apply it all over since she tends to burn, but on a pony known to fade well, applying to just the spots could save on cream. I'd stand her upright on a mirror to fade evenly; best case scenario, it brightens her white, which is something you'd want to see all over!

If you do cover her vinyl with foil and leave only the spots exposed, put a layer of paper towel underneath, as I've seen reports of foil discoloring ponies. If you do opt for this, though, be prepared for the spots being whiter than the rest of her!
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: Ponybookworm on January 09, 2021, 09:46:40 AM
Cheers for this. Sea Murk has the same issue. Need to see if hydrogen peroxide works on her... (I want her to be Sea Mist again)
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: HollowZero on January 10, 2021, 06:28:23 PM
Do not use the cream. It's prone to cause more problems down the line.

Just buy hydrogen peroxide (I just use the pharmacy strength which I believe is 3%. Others have called for higher but I don't trust it) and pour it into a container you can put a lid on. Remove the ponys tail and immerse the body fully. You then place the whole container in a windowsill and turn it once a day to sunfade evenly.

I added oxiclean, myself. I personally left the head in a different container with the hair hanging outside of it. It is a slight more annoying because you have to flip the head every day, but I didn't want to ruin the mane.

I used this on a Tropical Breeze with age spots, a Cloud Puff with regrind, and a dingy yellow So Soft Surprise. I didn't have the patience for the Flutters but the age spots did fade from what they were to a significant amount. Surprise was my focus and she is now a lovely bright white. She had weird spots too and they disappeared.

If it's winter though the sun is obviously out less, so the sunfading will take longer.

I hope this may have helped you in some way!

Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on January 11, 2021, 10:30:57 AM
Do not use the cream. It's prone to cause more problems down the line.

Just buy hydrogen peroxide (I just use the pharmacy strength which I believe is 3%. Others have called for higher but I don't trust it) and pour it into a container you can put a lid on. Remove the ponys tail and immerse the body fully. You then place the whole container in a windowsill and turn it once a day to sunfade evenly.

I added oxiclean, myself. I personally left the head in a different container with the hair hanging outside of it. It is a slight more annoying because you have to flip the head every day, but I didn't want to ruin the mane.

I used this on a Tropical Breeze with age spots, a Cloud Puff with regrind, and a dingy yellow So Soft Surprise. I didn't have the patience for the Flutters but the age spots did fade from what they were to a significant amount. Surprise was my focus and she is now a lovely bright white. She had weird spots too and they disappeared.

If it's winter though the sun is obviously out less, so the sunfading will take longer.

I hope this may have helped you in some way!

I agree the cream can cause mayhem and would never use it. But since the marks are quite dark I would consider trying the jar method. I would have thought that using harsh chemicals would contribute to plastic breakdown and cause more problems in the long run. That said, what does seem to slow plastic breakdown is cleaning the pony carefully inside and out, drying it completely inside and out and then storing in stable conditions (temp, humidity, low/no UV light). I hope the method works for you and you get many more years of enjoyment with her.
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on January 11, 2021, 12:28:59 PM
My Baby Moondancer had the same. She was sold to me as a bait and I felt so bad for her I tried to fix her up.

What she looked like before I worked on her
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I did the Proxied soak for her and replaced her hair. This is the end result of that
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However, the proxied soak didn't last long and my girl had most of her spots return on her and currently looks more like she may have sunburn despite her not being in the sun (I think I may have sunburned her after the soak)
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on January 11, 2021, 02:35:17 PM
My Baby Moondancer had the same. She was sold to me as a bait and I felt so bad for her I tried to fix her up.

What she looked like before I worked on her
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I did the Proxied soak for her and replaced her hair. This is the end result of that
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However, the proxied soak didn't last long and my girl had most of her spots return on her and currently looks more like she may have sunburn despite her not being in the sun (I think I may have sunburned her after the soak)

I'm wondering whether the peroxide caused the sunburn in the long-term... thanks for sharing the pictures, very interesting!
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: starrynights on January 11, 2021, 10:47:40 PM
I think I'll leave her as is for now, since it seems all methods have potential to make things worse.
Thanks for all the info, everyone!
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: MintyMyndi on January 14, 2021, 09:03:16 PM
Do not use the cream. It's prone to cause more problems down the line.
What kinds of problems? I know to stay away from benzoyl peroxide, but are there any ingredients in hydrogen peroxide cream that are the culprit? I've thought about trying this on my inky Baby Glory, yellowish Starshine (though she is whiter than she tends to be!), and my EG Pinkie Pie with a yellowed head to preserve their hair, glitter, etc. but now I don't know. Would a DIY gel be better for them?
Title: Re: What's wrong with baby Moondancer?
Post by: IceCrystal02 on January 15, 2021, 12:32:28 AM
Do not use the cream. It's prone to cause more problems down the line.
What kinds of problems? I know to stay away from benzoyl peroxide, but are there any ingredients in hydrogen peroxide cream that are the culprit? I've thought about trying this on my inky Baby Glory, yellowish Starshine (though she is whiter than she tends to be!), and my EG Pinkie Pie with a yellowed head to preserve their hair, glitter, etc. but now I don't know. Would a DIY gel be better for them?

I've used Salon 40 Creme on various G1s according to this: http://www.mlppreservationproject.com/materials.html. --> scroll down to Salon 40 Creme Developer.

It has worked really well on yellowed white G1s and "highlighter marks", but I haven't had much success in trying to sun-fade cancer spots with it. I painted it on the cancer spots of a Splasher for months during a (sunny) summer. She didn't bleach, but the cancer spots didn't fade either. It seems safe in comparison to "Remove-Zit" that has been reported to cause bleached spots on the pony, to continue working long after the application and it even seems to spread to other ponies if they stand close enough to the treated pony.
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