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Title: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on May 18, 2018, 12:59:47 PM
I was on the fence when I heard about the She-Ra reboot, with all the weird reincarnations and animation styles nowadays, but this teaser is getting me excited...

Notice the subtitle... Plural??  :dropjaw:

Edit: I forgot to add the link to the article: http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/she-ra/269628/she-ra-first-look-at-netflix-reboot (http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/she-ra/269628/she-ra-first-look-at-netflix-reboot)

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Bring it on Netflix!
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 18, 2018, 01:10:39 PM
Umm I'll wait and see.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: dragonlady on May 18, 2018, 01:11:34 PM
The Voltron reboot is good so here's hoping the same for She-ra! *Crosses fingers*
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 18, 2018, 01:12:39 PM
Someone on the tf board noticed that it says She-Ra and the Princess of Power?
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on May 18, 2018, 01:23:31 PM
Someone on the tf board noticed that it says She-Ra and the Princess of Power?

That's how I read it first, too. But something felt off, and I had to take a closer look. It's actually "... and the PrincessES of Power". I totally overlooked it as well.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 18, 2018, 01:31:38 PM
Someone on the tf board noticed that it says She-Ra and the Princess of Power?

That's how I read it first, too. But something felt off, and I had to take a closer look. It's actually "... and the PrincessES of Power". I totally overlooked it as well.
Ohh. Good observation.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Nemesis on May 18, 2018, 02:25:50 PM
Ooh... *_* I would love to see She-Ra toys on store shelves again!

After reading the summary, I’m really excited to see this!
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 18, 2018, 03:37:45 PM
Is it going to be 2D animation or 3D?  Hoping for 2D . . .

Interesting that She-Ra is getting a reboot while He-Man isn't, but I'm not complaining.   ;)
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Tulips on May 18, 2018, 04:02:06 PM
Hmmm, I hope this ends up worth a watch. I didn't grow up with She-Ra so I'd be interested to see a reboot.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 18, 2018, 04:09:20 PM
Is it going to be 2D animation or 3D?  Hoping for 2D . . .

Interesting that She-Ra is getting a reboot while He-Man isn't, but I'm not complaining.   ;)

Actually He-Man is getting a live action movie.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Miniature Sheep on May 18, 2018, 05:16:26 PM
Oooh, this looks interesting; I really loved the She-Ra story books when I was a kid, definitely keeping my fingers crossed for some new ones! Also noted, "This show thankfully does NOT feature awful snarky dialogue" - sounds like it's off to a good start! :lol:
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: tikibirds on May 19, 2018, 12:14:56 AM
Intersting, although I was never a fan of the original
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Beldarna on May 19, 2018, 12:15:44 AM
Ooh! I loved She-Ra as a kid, much more than He-Man! The subtitle is interesting.. but somehow I got the mental image of Starla and the jewelriders when I read it. Even so, I hope this will be good!
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on May 19, 2018, 01:27:05 AM
Ooh... *_* I would love to see She-Ra toys on store shelves again!

Me too! As long as the head isn't too big for the body, I'm willing to put up with a lot. Especially excited for a possible brand new version of Spirit/Swift Wind!
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Nemesis on May 19, 2018, 02:06:27 AM
Ooh... *_* I would love to see She-Ra toys on store shelves again!

Me too! As long as the head isn't too big for the body, I'm willing to put up with a lot. Especially excited for a possible brand new version of Spirit/Swift Wind!

I hadn’t even thought of the horses, oddly enough (and I own some of the vintage ones, lol)! Now I’m doubly excited! XD
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Taffeta on May 19, 2018, 03:10:49 AM
Is it going to be 2D animation or 3D?  Hoping for 2D . . .

Interesting that She-Ra is getting a reboot while He-Man isn't, but I'm not complaining.   ;)

MOTU did have a reboot some ten or twelve years ago but SheRa hasn't ever had one I don't think. The reboot MOTU sucked a lot of the humour out of the original if I remember rightly but it did at least bother with an actual origins story so that was a bonus. I only saw a small portion of that series mind you.

As a kid I generally preferred MOTU but the premise for SheRa is more interesting in my opinion. What annoyed me about SheRa was that there are all these characters and they hardly get used, but instead you get the annoying Bo, Madam Razz, etc. I know Bo was made but Madame Razz wasn't so waste of screen time. I think Frosta, Glimmer etc got some significant airtime and I remember Castaspella having an amazing episode with Shadow Weaver (who is my favourite SheRa character because reasons) but most of the later ones had token appearances. Hopefully a new series can do something about that.

In any case, I always liked that SheRa (Adora) began the series as brainwashed by the enemy, and the idea of the Resistance.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 19, 2018, 08:27:20 AM
Now lets hope she's not a boy crazy airhead.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Zapper on May 19, 2018, 09:10:22 AM
Can't wait for the character art reveals! Some people will have a fit :lol:

Needs more Huntara. And goofy rotoscoped walk cycles! And Swifty with a heavy smoker voice.

Now lets hope she's not a boy crazy airhead.

She won't be. I know Lumberjanes, its got great female characters. Not even the original was an airhead. She was more intelligent than her brother, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 19, 2018, 09:13:52 AM
Can't wait for the character art reveals! Some people will have a fit :lol:

Needs more Huntara. And goofy rotoscoped walk cycles! And Swifty with a heavy smoker voice.

Now lets hope she's not a boy crazy airhead.

She won't be. I know Lumberjanes, its got great female characters. Not even the original was an airhead. She was more intelligent than her brother, that's for sure.

Let me rephrase: I hope they won't turn her into an airhead.

Lumberjanes?  Not familiar with that. :what:
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Nemesis on May 19, 2018, 09:55:10 AM
And Swifty with a heavy smoker voice.

:rofl:

Lumberjanes?  Not familiar with that. :what:

Lumberjanes is an awesomesauce indie comic book series featuring an all-female main cast. The characters are fantastic, and avoid falling into the typical, negative tropes that are so common in entertainment. If you want a well-written series with realistic, non-stereotyped women, it’s defs worth a read. :)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumberjanes
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: melodys_angel on May 19, 2018, 10:04:28 AM
Interesting.  Will have ot see how that turns out
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Taffeta on May 19, 2018, 02:24:47 PM
Having now read the whole article, I am looking forward to it.

Also, isn't old SheRa on Netflix? It certainly was at one point over here in the UK. Testing the waters maybe?

Looking at the castlist, I'm encouraged by the possibility of more involvement of the characters that were sidelined originally.

Although I don't see Flutterina...or Peekablue.

I can't remember which Shera figures I kept, but I think it was Flutterina (aka Papillon in my house for reasons), Perfuma, Netossa and Peekablue. It will be sad if Flutterina and Peekablue miss out on this new release.

However, I will hope that maybe there'll be a Shadow Weaver doll this time...
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on May 19, 2018, 02:46:02 PM
Although I don't see Flutterina...or Peekablue.

Maybe they wanted to limit the number of group members taking up screentime? They could still expand with more characters later on, if the show is successful.
Kowl, Madam Razz and Spirit/Swift Wind are missing as well. I can do without Madam Razz and to a lesser extent Kowl, but Spirit was quite iconic. I hope they keep him, even if he doesn't talk.

However, I will hope that maybe there'll be a Shadow Weaver doll this time...

I'm hoping for a smashing quality toy line! It's quite the stretch to assume there will be any toys at all at this point, but Mattel could potentially have their new Princess doll line right here, with Ever After High fizzling and the loss of Disney Princess... They tried to fill the void with the superhero girls, but those are still of a different kind than She-Ra.
This is mostly just me hoping for a great outcome though :)
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Taffeta on May 19, 2018, 02:50:08 PM
I basically agree with all the points you made. I will be sad if Flutterina and Peekablue miss out but I do have my vintage ones still. Flutterina is probably my favourite of the old figures :/

I will be happy if Madam Razz is gone for good. I hated her :/ And her broom.

It will be sad if Swifty isn't involved. :/

Would be happy to see less of Bow as well, but I guess he's rather essential. I put him in the same category as Rio from Jem - an unnecessary moron confused by multiple identities.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on May 19, 2018, 03:01:51 PM
... an unnecessary moron confused by multiple identities.

Lol, don't fear; Seahawk is still around to overshadow Bow. Seahawk was a great male sidekick, I hope his role will be bigger this time. Especially if Bow turns out to be the main comic relief now that Razz, broom and Kowl are gone.

Post Merge: May 19, 2018, 03:04:02 PM

Now lets hope she's not a boy crazy airhead.

...who wields a magical cellphone instead of a sword  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: kestral_kitsune on May 19, 2018, 04:35:50 PM
Is it going to be 2D animation or 3D?  Hoping for 2D . . .

Interesting that She-Ra is getting a reboot while He-Man isn't, but I'm not complaining.   ;)
  He-man already had his reboot and it was actually a pretty decent one.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 19, 2018, 05:06:16 PM
... an unnecessary moron confused by multiple identities.

Lol, don't fear; Seahawk is still around to overshadow Bow. Seahawk was a great male sidekick, I hope his role will be bigger this time. Especially if Bow turns out to be the main comic relief now that Razz, broom and Kowl are gone.

Post Merge: May 19, 2018, 03:04:02 PM

Now lets hope she's not a boy crazy airhead.

...who wields a magical cellphone instead of a sword  :lol: :lol: :lol:

No no! Baaaad!


:silly:
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Zapper on May 22, 2018, 05:11:53 AM
Ponies, please!

Of course all the horses will be in there. Everybody knows SwiftWind is essential to the She-Ra aesthetic.

I am honestly jealous of "Gingerhaze". From tumblr comicstrip artist to published comicbook artist/writer to exec producer under Dreamworks/Netflix of your beloved childhood cartoon.
The US and its animation industry is magical that way. I, too, would like to get picked up for the 6th installment of MLP :lol:
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on May 22, 2018, 10:16:03 AM
I am honestly jealous of "Gingerhaze". From tumblr comicstrip artist to published comicbook artist/writer to exec producer under Dreamworks/Netflix of your beloved childhood cartoon.
The US and its animation industry is magical that way. I, too, would like to get picked up for the 6th installment of MLP :lol:

I didn't know that, thanks for sharing. I love these life stories that prove how much is actually possible!
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: ringwraith10 on May 22, 2018, 03:46:48 PM
I somehow missed She-Ra when I was a kid but I've gotten interested as an adult so I'm definitely on board for this re-boot! It looks like it will be good. :)
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on May 23, 2018, 10:24:42 AM
Ponies, please!

Of course all the horses will be in there. Everybody knows SwiftWind is essential to the She-Ra aesthetic.


Don't forget about the Swan! I loved Enchanta.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: dragonfly on May 23, 2018, 07:41:57 PM
Ohh I hope it’s good! She Ra and He Man were always favorites of mine. Ok a believer ... optimistic this is well done!
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Mewtwofan1 on May 23, 2018, 09:46:05 PM
I really have high hopes for this. Dreamworks was with the voltron reboot, and it’s perfeomning quite well. Cartoon Network hasn’t quite gotten to make a good reboot yet, so I’m glad dreamworks is handling this. I’m quite curious as to how this pans out, and will be interested in seeing what unfolds.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 24, 2018, 07:55:06 AM
Why are they changing it so that she's not Prince Adam's twin sister? What is it with wtiters believing they hafta change core aspects?
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 24, 2018, 01:35:14 PM
I love the She-Ra horses, especially the translucent ones.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 24, 2018, 02:37:58 PM
I love the She-Ra horses, especially the translucent ones.

Me too. I had a light pink one and a purple one with blue hair that a friend gave me when I was a kid. I'm not sure if they had names.

Post Merge: May 24, 2018, 03:50:36 PM

I found them! :frolic: Crystal Swiftwind and Crystal Moonbeam!

http://www.ghostofthedoll.co.uk/shera-animals.php


Well I can't watch She-Ra, but I'm hoping you guys can tell me if its any good.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: mlly on May 24, 2018, 11:15:02 PM
Why are they changing it so that she's not Prince Adam's twin sister? What is it with wtiters believing they hafta change core aspects?

Probably because there is currently no ongoing or upcoming He-Man franchise reboot to go along with it.


Anyways..
I don't like the new Voltron but I'm still fairly excited and optimistic for this one, because of the writers/crew involved and that a lot of other characters like Mermista and Netossa already being confirmed. I'm just hoping the art style is more unique instead of being either  'round and quirky' or anime/Avatar-styled derivative like a lot of modern cartoons.

Though my only true worry is the toys, as Mattel's quality is currently, and has been, the absolute worst in these past few years.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on May 25, 2018, 10:56:45 AM
I love the She-Ra horses, especially the translucent ones.

Me too. I had a light pink one and a purple one with blue hair that a friend gave me when I was a kid. I'm not sure if they had names.

Post Merge: May 24, 2018, 03:50:36 PM

I found them! :frolic: Crystal Swiftwind and Crystal Moonbeam!

http://www.ghostofthedoll.co.uk/shera-animals.php


Well I can't watch She-Ra, but I'm hoping you guys can tell me if its any good.

Yep, they all had names. And the crystal versions had a backstory in comic book form, called Through The Crystal Door or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Galactica on May 25, 2018, 11:14:27 AM
Oh great news!

I hope they try 11" action figures that look more like dolls with combable hair (like the 11" doll they had at SDCC a couple years ago).

I don't like the looks of the most recent MOTU figures by ReAction- please, not like that !

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Though my only true worry is the toys, as Mattel's quality is currently, and has been, the absolute worst in these past few years.

Mattel gave up the MOTU license so I suspect that would include Shera as well?

Does anyone know who will get the license for the toys? Maybe not known yet?
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on May 25, 2018, 02:20:56 PM
Mattel gave up the MOTU license so I suspect that would include Shera as well?

Does anyone know who will get the license for the toys? Maybe not known yet?

There are different stories about this. Some claim Mattel sold everything MOTU, and through the years the IP was handed over a lot from one company to the next. All the while, Mattel kept first rights to toys till 2023, but has to pay royalties. Others say that Mattel still holds the rights to MOTU, and only the media rights are not in their hands; those currently belong to Universal.

She-Ra (as a toy) is legally a completely separate brand from MOTU, only connected to MOTU through animation (which belonged to Filmation). If Mattel sold off everything She-Ra as well, they might still have first rights on toys for the upcoming years, just like with He-Man. If they still own She-Ra, they can produce toys based on *their* original more girly (pink/purple/gold) She-Ra design, but if they want to make Dreamworks/Netflix (ex-filmation IP) style based toys, they probably pay royalties .

The legal separation between He-Man and She-Ra probably has something to do with why She-Ra never showed up in the He-Man reboots, and why He-Man is currently not being written into the She-Ra reboot.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 25, 2018, 02:28:34 PM
I would be thrilled if the people who make the nicer D.C. and Marvel toys picked these up. Maybe a Classic Anniversary line and a new style line to appeal to both old and new fans alike?
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Post by: Sky_Rocket_Sammie on May 25, 2018, 07:12:58 PM
At the very least even if I don't like the show there should be toys. Because there needs to be toys. Also, 2D please and thank you. I'm old school and love 2D over 3D any day.

Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Leave a Whisper on May 25, 2018, 08:28:56 PM
Why are they changing it so that she's not Prince Adam's twin sister? What is it with wtiters believing they hafta change core aspects?

Probably because there is currently no ongoing or upcoming He-Man franchise reboot to go along with it.


Anyways..
I don't like the new Voltron but I'm still fairly excited and optimistic for this one, because of the writers/crew involved and that a lot of other characters like Mermista and Netossa already being confirmed. I'm just hoping the art style is more unique instead of being either  'round and quirky' or anime/Avatar-styled derivative like a lot of modern cartoons.

Though my only true worry is the toys, as Mattel's quality is currently, and has been, the absolute worst in these past few years.

No but there's the upcoming movie.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Taffeta on May 26, 2018, 10:29:49 AM
It will be especially good if there are decent figures/dolls for this line, because if I remember rightly, Netossa was one of the harder figures to get, being that she was such a late release. I remember looking for a cheap one for a really long time before finally getting mine. It's one reason I kept her when I sold off most of the others, because I figured if I regretted it it would be hard to replace her. I'd love to see her done in a new style but in good quality.

I know there are more recent figures but they have moulded hair. I want brushable.

Still sad about Flutterina though :( Poor little papillon.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: LadyMoondancer on May 29, 2018, 11:56:10 AM
Mattel gave up the MOTU license so I suspect that would include Shera as well?

Does anyone know who will get the license for the toys? Maybe not known yet?

There are different stories about this. Some claim Mattel sold everything MOTU, and through the years the IP was handed over a lot from one company to the next. All the while, Mattel kept first rights to toys till 2023, but has to pay royalties. Others say that Mattel still holds the rights to MOTU, and only the media rights are not in their hands; those currently belong to Universal.

She-Ra (as a toy) is legally a completely separate brand from MOTU, only connected to MOTU through animation (which belonged to Filmation). If Mattel sold off everything She-Ra as well, they might still have first rights on toys for the upcoming years, just like with He-Man. If they still own She-Ra, they can produce toys based on *their* original more girly (pink/purple/gold) She-Ra design, but if they want to make Dreamworks/Netflix (ex-filmation IP) style based toys, they probably pay royalties .

The legal separation between He-Man and She-Ra probably has something to do with why She-Ra never showed up in the He-Man reboots, and why He-Man is currently not being written into the She-Ra reboot.

Wow, I never knew any of that!  Extremely interesting!
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Zapper on May 29, 2018, 01:39:08 PM
Even if He-Man and She-Ra weren't separate, why should She-Ra not be front and center this time?
The Dreamworks/Netflix arrangement has produced two cartoons targeted towards boys so far, Trollhunter and Voltron. She-Ra is their offering for girls.
And please don't give me this "everyone can watch it". That's not the way these things work :lol:
She-Ra was raised without knowing she had a brother at all. He is not needed for her show to work just like She-Ra was not needed for the He-Man reboot to work.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Einhornbaby on May 31, 2018, 02:45:11 AM
hm, will keep an eye on that! Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Icey on June 03, 2018, 01:24:04 PM
I am hoping it is great, but I am a little worried (I do not want to fight, so I will keep my reservations to myself). I will watch it first and then decide if I will show it to the kids or just keep watching the original.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Zapper on July 17, 2018, 09:41:37 AM
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/she-ra/269628/she-ra-release-date-first-look-at-netflix-reboot

New images!!! I am loving it more and more.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 17, 2018, 10:22:57 AM
Eh. *shakes hand in a so-so motion*
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: flutterscotch on July 17, 2018, 10:23:18 AM
Princesses plural makes sense. It's not like she's the only princess in that line. Glimmer and Mermista were too, while Frosta, Castaspella and Angella were queens. And there were about 8 billion kingdoms.

"Well, we need to make more toys", "How about another kingdom?"
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Galactica on July 17, 2018, 11:08:56 AM
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/she-ra/269628/she-ra-release-date-first-look-at-netflix-reboot

New images!!! I am loving it more and more.

Oh it looks cute!  I can't wait to see it!!!!!
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Zapper on July 17, 2018, 11:14:25 AM
A friend of mine said it reminds her of Steven Universe and I can see that in the background art and colors used. It's very pastelly. I hope there is more 80s references. Bow's hair and She-Ra's boots are a good start.

I love how Bow does not have the dumb mustache. And the outfit looks good, the heart is still there. Also shorts for the girls is a wise design move. They are teens, no need to sexualize them.

I need a pic of Swiftie next. November is still a long time to go so I hope there will be more teaser images.
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Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 17, 2018, 11:29:10 AM
I'm looking forward to it.  I heard that it might focus on She-Ra / Adora's upbringing, which if it's similar to the 80s origin, means she is separated from her parents and raised by the Evil Hordak.  In the 80s she faithfully serves Hordak as his soldier.  This could be super interesting!

YES, Bow's redesign is SO GOOD.  He looked ridiculous in the 80s.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Zapper on July 17, 2018, 11:48:07 AM
I'm looking forward to it.  I heard that it might focus on She-Ra / Adora's upbringing, which if it's similar to the 80s origin, means she is separated from her parents and raised by the Evil Hordak.

That image of Adora with Catra seems to be from that time. Catra as a legit catgirl is great to me because I always thought it was silly that she could only transform into a panther because Hordac gave her the headpiece of the catpeople... but she spoke like a freaking cat! She should have always been a real catperson and now she is one so I'm glad.

I also like how there seems to be variation in the girls bodytypes, hair lenght and outfits. Only judging by Glimmer, She-Ra/Adora and Catra, they already look like they can pass the silhouette test. One of my favorite She-Ra/He-Man/Jem jokes is how stupid the people were for not realizing who they were when they have the exact same face, voice and stature and when they are around the other person leaves :lol:
Might as well try to make Adora and She-Ra look a little different from each other so it's not that obvious.

I am really liking these 80s property redesigns as of late. First Transformers Cyberverse and now this. They capture the spirit (pun intended) of the old cartoon but they look fresh and more suited for modern animation.

I am turning into a little kid again. I am desperate to see Swiftwing, Huntara (please let her be there) and all the villains. Hordac should be scarier. As a little girl I was more afraid of silly Skeletor than Porky Horky.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on July 17, 2018, 11:57:00 AM
I'm happy to see them being proportionate - no exaggarated eyes, head, etc.; makes for a nice change nowadays.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: Zapper on July 17, 2018, 12:03:30 PM
I'm happy to see them being proportionate - no exaggarated eyes, head, etc.; makes for a nice change nowadays.

I hope that means there will be stuff to buy. They look very clean and cute without looking too simple or chibi. Would translate well onto actionfigures, like those Mysticon things.

Here is a quick refesher on which characters have been confirmed so far:

Adora/She-Ra
Seahawk
Bow
Shadow Weaver
Castaspella
Glimmer
Catra
Angella
Hordak
Scorpia
Entrapta
Perfuma
Mermista
Frosta
Netossa
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess (no, not Meghan Markle)
Post by: flutterscotch on July 17, 2018, 12:11:55 PM
Petulant Catra!!!!!!
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Post by: Sky_Rocket_Sammie on July 18, 2018, 10:47:53 PM
Nope, it looks nothing like the original and honestly looks like a bunch of fan art. *sigh* some things don't need to be brought back. Yes, I get there are problems with the original design but they ditched most of it for this stuff.

With some of the merchandise that Hot Topic carried in the early 2000s was great and I was desperately hoping to keep it in line with that. This whole reboot is now something I'm staying away from.
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Post by: Icey on July 18, 2018, 11:50:57 PM
After seeing what they did to Glimmer and Catra I am planning on skipping it. Not a fan of this animation style at all. I am so disappointed to see that DC Super Hero girls is going down this road as well. I collect the dolls and books with my daughter, but if the designs change I am out. My kids HATE this animation style too. I showed them the pictures, without any commentary from me, and my son thought She-Ra was Thor and my daughter crinkled her nose and asked why they were not pretty :(
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on July 20, 2018, 06:19:17 AM
I have to admit that I wasn't expecting them to look *that* young, so I'm wondering just how convincing it will be having a bunch of kids lead or attack some horde soldiers.

This image in particular reminds me a lot of Avatar The Last Airbender for some reason:
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 20, 2018, 07:50:47 AM
It looks kinda like a cross between older anime and hanna barberra.
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Post by: Taffeta on July 20, 2018, 09:42:59 AM
One of my favorite She-Ra/He-Man/Jem jokes is how stupid the people were for not realizing who they were when they have the exact same face, voice and stature and when they are around the other person leaves :lol:

To be fair, Jem could be Jem and Jerrica at the same time, so long as nobody was trying to hug them both at the same time. Synergy often projected Jerrica when Jerrica was being Jem or vice versa, so that's not quite so idiotic. And most of the people she was truly close to also knew her secret. Rio doesn't count because he was an ape who two timed her with herself and then tried to three-time her, so I disregard him...

With SheRa and HeMan it is a bit weird that changing clothes is enough...?
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Post by: Zapper on July 21, 2018, 05:12:08 AM
Nope, it looks nothing like the original and honestly looks like a bunch of fan art. *sigh* some things don't need to be brought back.

I hated the Bayformers therefore all TF should cease to exist. I hated the Jem movie so I hope Jem will never be back again. I don't like G4 toys so I hope MLP will die. Some things should just never come back again, am I right? :lol:

Post Merge: July 21, 2018, 05:37:09 AM

my son thought She-Ra was Thor and my daughter crinkled her nose and asked why they were not pretty :(

Pretty alarming to me that your kids apparently base the goodness of female characters on looking "pretty".
Toxic self image starts with the media your kids consume. Maybe also ask your son why it's negative to him that a teen girl "looks like Thor". Maybe tell him girls can be physically strong, too. You're their mom, aren't you worried about that?

I can't believe what some people here are saying just because you personally dislike the look of something. Btw I know kids who think the new Barbie Fashionistas are too fat and too man looking, lol! You won't believe what young kids already pick up on just by watching their parents reaction to things.
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Post by: Icey on July 22, 2018, 09:37:08 AM
No, I am not worried about that because I do not buy into that nonsense. Little girls, like my perfectly normal and awesome little girl, like pretty things. Not all of course, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with girls being girls and boys being boys. I allow my children the space and freedom to be whomever they want to be. My little girl likes to dress up and be a pretty princess, she is also a beast in Tae Kwon-Do. I would not change anything about her. My son has a point, she looks like a boy. It was an innocent comment from a child, not something that needs to be dissected.
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Post by: Taffeta on July 22, 2018, 10:32:38 AM
Nope, it looks nothing like the original and honestly looks like a bunch of fan art. *sigh* some things don't need to be brought back.

I hated the Bayformers therefore all TF should cease to exist. I hated the Jem movie so I hope Jem will never be back again. I don't like G4 toys so I hope MLP will die. Some things should just never come back again, am I right? :lol:

I know that wasn't aimed at me, but I am actually okay with all of those suggestions?
I can't really comment on TF because I don't follow them, but I never wanted Jem to come back, and still don't. And I don't mind if MLP ends. At this point, we're just going to get regurgitated mane 6 forever so it's not that big a loss.

I don't really believe in something come back at any cost and with any sacrifice. The Jem movie is the best example of that, and that argument rattled over and over the Jem community for months before the film came out, ultimately proving the sceptics right about the content.

Precious things don't cease to be precious if future developers trample all over them, but sometimes it would be nice if they just left the old things be and made new things for modern kids to get excited over. I don't need ponies in stores to be a pony fan. My generation ended in 1994 and I'm still kicking, so it's no big deal to me if G4 were to suddenly vanish and there was no G5 :) (I guess maybe that should be in the unpopular opinion thread??)

That said, I do hope this series does well with the characters. I don't really like the art style either...but the story/character basis is more important to me.
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Post by: Galactica on July 23, 2018, 09:50:40 AM
I have to admit that I wasn't expecting them to look *that* young, so I'm wondering just how convincing it will be having a bunch of kids lead or attack some horde soldiers.

This image in particular reminds me a lot of Avatar The Last Airbender for some reason:
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The style does look like Avatar-

I really liked that cartoon and my nieces were obsessed with it so if it is anything as good as that, I have very high hopes indeed :D
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Post by: Baby Sugarberry on July 23, 2018, 03:00:56 PM
I for one am very, very glad they didn't go for an over-sexualized, pretty-pretty-princess look.  She looks just fine; anyone who thinks that Adora/She-Ra doesn't look like a girl needs a broader concept of what a girl looks like.  Her outfit is completely sensible for the badass fighting she has to do, except maybe the loose hair but we'll let that one fly under the flag of movie magic.  ;)  The art style is neither a plus nor minus to me, my enjoyment is going to swing largely on how the story-writing goes.

Kids decide on 'girl stuff' and 'boy stuff' exclusively based on cultural influences.  It's something they've absorbed, usually from birth. 
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Post by: Icey on July 24, 2018, 05:58:55 AM
Gender is not a social construct or cultural, there have been studies done to show that boys will gravitate toward boy stuff and girls will gravitate toward girl stuff (both ape and human studies). The whole gender is a social construct stuff comes from people who have a very specific agenda. Anything my children have ever asked for they have received regardless of who it is geared toward. My son had a dollhouse and baby dolls when he was little because she showed an interest in them. This set my FIL off, but I didn't care. My daughter has her own Transformers and Match Box cars. The problem today is that people do not want to allow children to be who they are. They want to force them to be something they THINK they should be.
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Post by: SaraMari on July 24, 2018, 06:42:32 AM
The She-ra cartoon was before my time, tho I did have two dolls when I was little, so to me I'm not going to have nostalgia coloring my perception of the reboot. I do agree it's getting tiring to wake up everyday to news of a new reboot being done, kids nowadays should have their own stories. But I guess media outlets see this as a chance to not only get a kid audience but cash in on that sweet sweet millennial nostalgia (which seems to be high right now)

Now as for my initial opinion on what's available so far on the new She-ra? It's positive, I like the designs as I appreciate different body types. I have very broad shoulders and am tall so I have experienced my share of bullying for not being "pretty" enough. However I don't feel a body shape dictates beauty. Contrary I like her more broad shape as it makes her sword fighting more believable.

Speaking of I really do not like the original She-ra cartoon. The writing is non existent, voice acting rather stilted, and animation just terrible (as per the norm of that time). I got half way thru it before I had to stop. If the new She-ra has an interesting plot, character development and depth I will be happy to watch it.
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 24, 2018, 07:21:39 AM
Gender is not a social construct or cultural, there have been studies done to show that boys will gravitate toward boy stuff and girls will gravitate toward girl stuff (both ape and human studies). The whole gender is a social construct stuff comes from people who have a very specific agenda. Anything my children have ever asked for they have received regardless of who it is geared toward. My son had a dollhouse and baby dolls when he was little because she showed an interest in them. This set my FIL off, but I didn't care. My daughter has her own Transformers and Match Box cars. The problem today is that people do not want to allow children to be who they are. They want to force them to be something they THINK they should be.

:iconclap: Precisely.  Sadly its always been a problem and will always be a problem.
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Post by: Icey on July 24, 2018, 07:43:06 AM
Thanks, LaW. I really do not mean to be argumentative. I was an expert on parenting too before I became a parent - LOL!
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Post by: Wardah on July 24, 2018, 08:43:50 AM
Gender is not a social construct or cultural, there have been studies done to show that boys will gravitate toward boy stuff and girls will gravitate toward girl stuff (both ape and human studies). The whole gender is a social construct stuff comes from people who have a very specific agenda. Anything my children have ever asked for they have received regardless of who it is geared toward. My son had a dollhouse and baby dolls when he was little because she showed an interest in them. This set my FIL off, but I didn't care. My daughter has her own Transformers and Match Box cars. The problem today is that people do not want to allow children to be who they are. They want to force them to be something they THINK they should be.

While I agree there are differences some of what those differences are is cultural. Pink used to be considered a masculine color and blue was ideal for women because it signified purity. That's why so many images of Mary have her wearing blue. And you letting your son play with dollhouses and baby dolls and your daughter's interest in cars just proves that gender interests are not as narrow as society tries to make them. I just wish everyone would let everyone like what they like and be how they feel happiest.

Back to She Ra the thing is if any boys did look like her everyone would be questioning his masculinity. She just looks like a girl who hasn't gone through puberty yet. Before puberty boys and girls look pretty much the same.
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Post by: Baby Sugarberry on July 25, 2018, 03:22:43 AM
'Boy stuff' is only 'boy stuff' and 'girl stuff is only 'girl stuff' because we've made it so, for the most part.  High heels used to be for men only!  Same with colours which switched associations, as Wardah pointed out.  A lot of gendered things are purely arbitrary. 

Here's to hoping the reboot gets some stellar story-writing and world building.  Most of my love of the original comes from nostalgia and there's plenty of room for improvement in those areas.
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Post by: Taffeta on July 25, 2018, 10:14:32 AM
There was a really interesting experiment done here a while back with a class of 7 year olds which they tried to challenge gender stereotypes and assumptions with.

What they established was that the kids by the age of 7 had fixed gender roles for several jobs in their mind although they weren't actually exclusive to that gender.

They also did an experiment with babies and caretakers and the caretaker, if given a female name and a baby in a dress would push dolls and plushies on the baby, whereas one dressed in boy clothes with a boy name would get trucks or cars or robots pushed on them.

I think that probably we are all guilty of reinforcing gender differences without even realising it. What the experiment achieved by the end of it was that the guys were more able to talk about stuff rather than getting angry. The girls gained confidence in their abilities to deal with maths and so on.

I mean, it's just one experiment and one class but I tend to believe a lot of gender ideas are social construct. Do kids go to the boy or girl toys or do they end up there because of what influences are around them?

It's an interesting question and I think it can be much more looked into than it currently has been.

BUT I think ultimately the most important thing is for the kid to like and choose what to play with at least if they can. I had sensible people in my life that didn't force barbie on me because they knew I didn't like it. And really listening to the kid and what the kid asks for, even if they ask for it becuase their friends have it and they can therefore play with it with someone else...is important.



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Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 25, 2018, 11:09:49 AM
Its nature and nurture. The problem is, is that too many people think in rigid, narrow confines and refuse to acknowledge factors such as individual personalities, cultural attitudes, societal shifts, deeply ingrained biases etc.

Truth be told, we're all various mixes of what are considered male and female traits and behaviors.

When I bought my daughter her first autobot for Christmas, one very rude and narrow minded relative snidely asked her if she was a little boy now. That relative got a big fat earful from me about outdated biased thinking and how sucky it was that she was trying her best to ruin a child's Christmas joy.  She does not make snide remarks anymore about her transformers.

Biases, attitudes, ideas and perceptions both good and bad, take a long time to shift from generation to generation. Partly because its ingrained all the way back to our survival days as cave people and partly because a good chunk of humanity has its head shoved up Its rear and cannot let people be.

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Post by: Taffeta on July 25, 2018, 11:27:04 AM
Its nature and nurture. The problem is, is that too many people think in rigid, narrow confines and refuse to acknowledge factors such as individual personalities, cultural attitudes, societal shifts, deeply ingrained biases etc.


This is so absolutely true on all levels, not just within gender. Humanity sucks sometimes :/
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Post by: Baby Sugarberry on July 25, 2018, 01:19:01 PM
Even when parents do their level best to provide diverse media, toys and teaching moments,  much of a kid's life is spent experiencing culture directly.  It can be the friends they play with, the ads they see in the mall, on the street, and TV, their teachers, relatives, books and more.  Culture is indeed slow to change, but I'm glad to see shows like this push things towards variety and less restrictive ideals.
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 03, 2018, 06:38:26 AM
I'm happy to see them being proportionate - no exaggarated eyes, head, etc.; makes for a nice change nowadays.

I hope that means there will be stuff to buy. They look very clean and cute without looking too simple or chibi. Would translate well onto actionfigures, like those Mysticon things.

Here is a quick refesher on which characters have been confirmed so far:

Adora/She-Ra
Seahawk
Bow
Shadow Weaver
Castaspella
Glimmer
Catra
Angella
Hordak
Scorpia
Entrapta
Perfuma
Mermista
Frosta
Netossa

Thanks for the list Zapper!
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Post by: TravelingTwinkler on September 06, 2018, 08:46:04 PM
I was on the fence when I heard about the She-Ra reboot, with all the weird reincarnations and animation styles nowadays, but this teaser is getting me excited...

Notice the subtitle... Plural??  :dropjaw:

PLURAL?! Oh wow I'm super-stoked now. What if there's insanely cool princesses who protect their own worlds and come together to defeat evil? Very Sailor Moon for a new generation.  :biggrin:

—mari

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Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 10, 2018, 12:07:10 PM
SHE-RA AND THE PRINCESSES OF POWER Teaser Trailer (2018)

https://youtu.be/zNT-74Andfo

The voice acting was forced, especially the shouting. Hopefully the actress will get into the groove of her character and smooth out.
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Post by: Icey on September 10, 2018, 05:55:47 PM
The trailer is trash. I will definitely be skipping it. My daughter and son said it looks terrible and my hubby said they made Adora sound like a whiny emo teen - LOL!
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on September 11, 2018, 11:55:15 AM
I loved the teaser... It really does feel like a sprakly purple pink version of Avatar The Last Airbender, if that makes sense. I'll definitely be binge watching the whole series once it drops. At first, I was on the fence, then I saw the teaser poster which I loved, then the stills of the characters (got me back on that fence)... It goes to show how character design can come across quite differently when you see it in motion as opposed to a bunch of stills.

Didn't quite like how they changed the transformation scene completely, but that's nitpicking.

And btw, apparently Swift Wind will be back, even though he didn't make any of the cast lists published (as far as I know). Swifty's voice actor stated that he did two songs for the character... Singing She-Ra and her magical Unicorn? Sounds like the tagline for a toy, but hey, let's just wait n see :D
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Post by: ladybastilla on September 11, 2018, 02:58:19 PM
I saw the trailer for this yesterday. Absolutely cannot wait for it to release. :heart: It will be fun to see what they do with these characters and overall premise.
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Post by: SailorEarth on September 11, 2018, 03:32:47 PM
I was reserving judgement when all we had were the stills but now the teaser has me pretty hyped  :frolic:
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on September 12, 2018, 11:12:32 AM
It will be fun to see what they do with these characters and overall premise.

Agreed, I think the key to enjoying this reboot is a detached excited approach to see what they have done with it. I have faith that the story will be entertaining, and the character revamp will be a new element to discover.

I think I can predict the overall consensus on this reboot, at the end of it: It was great in and of itself, but as She-Ra it is so not even close! I'm already OK with that, so it should be a fun ride for me.
Bring on the dark rainy fall evenings, hot cocoa and snuggly blankets for a fun filled binge watch of new She-Ra!! :D
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Post by: Taffeta on September 12, 2018, 04:49:37 PM
Weirdly it reminded me of a cut scene from a Japanese game I know, except that the voice is female not male.

I don't like the animation style particularly. But if it comes on UK netflix too I will be game to watch it and see.

What worries me a little is that this is focus on her getting the sword. I like the backstory of her growing up in conquered territory, brainwashed by the Horde. I guess we'll see.

But from that clip I'm reminded of the Japanese game and also Synergy speaking to Jem. I'm not really reminded of SheRa.

As for the voices, the original voices for some of the SheRa cast were appalling. I am fine with these in comparison.
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Post by: Zapper on September 13, 2018, 02:07:34 AM
The trailer is trash. I will definitely be skipping it. My daughter and son said it looks terrible and my hubby said they made Adora sound like a whiny emo teen - LOL!

My nieces said it looks great and my GF loved it as well. Therefore the trailer is awesome - ROFL!
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Post by: Galactica on September 13, 2018, 10:03:09 AM
SHE-RA AND THE PRINCESSES OF POWER Teaser Trailer (2018)

https://youtu.be/zNT-74Andfo

The voice acting was forced, especially the shouting. Hopefully the actress will get into the groove of her character and smooth out.

Looks very promising! Thanks for sharing!  I kinda love that they are keeping to the basic design (outfits) of the original but toning down the over-sexualized look of Shera (in my personal opinion) and instead just making them more like kids- I think it will probably go over well with the kinds of kids that fell for Teen Titans.
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Post by: TravelingTwinkler on September 13, 2018, 09:50:24 PM
I loved the teaser... It really does feel like a sprakly purple pink version of Avatar The Last Airbender, if that makes sense. I'll definitely be binge watching the whole series once it drops.

OH yes! Definitely some Avatar The Last Airbender homage in there along with some love for Sailor Moon in that transformation scene. She sounds large, in charge, and ready to kick some butt. The homages and commanding tone def make me want to give it a shot too.

—mari
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Post by: Roseprincess1 on September 13, 2018, 10:50:17 PM
I just saw the trailer.. I am inclined to give this a chance..
YOu can tell from looking that when she powers up.. shes wearing a LOT of armor. Thus some of her shape is lost.
But honestly for all you geeks out there.. Did we know kitiara was a girl(dragonlance) when she first stomped on the scene in her blue dragon scale armor? Or did we know Elise was a girl when she handed out bootys in sacks until she pulled her hood down? ITs hard to tell w hen your rocking that much gear.
I think this will be a lot of fun.. I HOPE we get dolls.
I love the curvy look for glimmer.. And i saw concept art for a dragon girl that is possibly Ghranamere's daughter.
So it ought to be interesting to see where its gonna go.
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 14, 2018, 06:53:12 AM
I don't think she looks like a boy. Just a girl going from child to teen. Plus all those idiots saying she looks like one, have clearly never seen a girl in their entire lives. Otherwise they'd know that girls, just like boys, go through developmental stages and that all girls have different body types.
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on September 24, 2018, 02:11:59 AM
Do they release full-on trailers for cartoon shows? Will we get one any time soon you think? The show will be released on november 16, that's quite close. All they have shown to promote this are some stills and teaser (because that 42 sec clip is Not a trailer).
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Post by: Icey on October 03, 2018, 01:18:09 PM
Do they release full-on trailers for cartoon shows? Will we get one any time soon you think? The show will be released on november 16, that's quite close. All they have shown to promote this are some stills and teaser (because that 42 sec clip is Not a trailer).

Apparently there will be a trailer at NY Comic Con.
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on October 04, 2018, 01:26:08 PM
Oh my... She-Ra looks quite ok, but Catra...
Mind you, they are prototypes.

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Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 04, 2018, 01:28:03 PM
 :blink: Mmm...those look kinda tacky. 
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on October 04, 2018, 01:30:57 PM
:blink: Mmm...those look kinda tacky.

Yeah, kinda like stick figures? Some animation in the poses might have helped I think.
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 04, 2018, 01:33:53 PM
:blink: Mmm...those look kinda tacky.

Yeah, kinda like stick figures? Some animation in the poses might have helped I think.

Yeah it might have. Oh well, I'm sure kids will have fun playing with them.
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Post by: Galactica on October 04, 2018, 01:48:39 PM
Oh my... She-Ra looks quite ok, but Catra...
Mind you, they are prototypes.

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Oh-  a little disappointing. They look so cheap and stiff-limbed. Catra especially does look weird with her arms sticking directly out like that.

Ah well.
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Post by: Zapper on October 04, 2018, 01:54:45 PM
I love She-Ra's sculpt. I am personally disappointed they don't have elbow or knee articulation.
But I am glad there will be toys at all. I hope something with more articulation is also planned.
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on October 04, 2018, 02:10:37 PM
Full trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsGMkAWB6lY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsGMkAWB6lY)

I like it, though I can see why some people would call this *She-Ra in name only*. Swift Wind is a full-time alicorn apparently?
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Post by: Zapper on October 04, 2018, 02:45:13 PM
Awesome! I'm hyped.
I don't see why people would call this "She-Ra in name only" except for them being salty that She-Ra isn't a double D anymore.

It has so much that made the original She-Ra great but it gives a modern spin to it.
She-Ra in the original was an instant wisecracking hero who got over her Horde life within a few eps.
It was fine for its time but you simply can't tell a story like that today with so much good animated competition. It will be cool to see her grow up and become the She-Ra we remember.

I really love the rebellion being led by the princesses and all of them using their traits/powers in a magical girl fashion - just without looking like eachother's clones.

Angella's wings being translucent is such a nice touch and the "evil horde" joke was great. My fave redesign is still Bow. He gives me such strong late 80s / early 90s vibes.
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Post by: SaraMari on October 04, 2018, 02:57:47 PM
I agree saying "in name only" is too harsh. The original She-ra barely even had a plot. Now they can take those bare bones and flesh out a good story with character development, world building and lore.

It looks like they are taking the important points like Adora being raised by the horde, finding her true destiny and making it more modern and thoughtful.

I liked the trailer, I will certainly give it a chance
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on October 04, 2018, 03:14:04 PM
Well, the secret identity concept is clearly out the window. And it seems like the sword is no longer the conduit for the magic; she just transforms at will?

The evil horde joke was good, I agree. And Hordak and Shadow Weaver got a really cool redesign I think. Swift Wind on the other hand... maybe it was the animation, but there seemed something off about him.

The story and the characters are definitely more fleshed out, so I'm sure this will be a great watch. I'm curious what that mysterious elaborate symbol means that they keep showing. A map?
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 04, 2018, 03:23:50 PM
Full trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsGMkAWB6lY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsGMkAWB6lY)

I like it, though I can see why some people would call this *She-Ra in name only*. Swift Wind is a full-time alicorn apparently?

The story sounds good.

Post Merge: October 04, 2018, 03:26:21 PM

Awesome! I'm hyped.
I don't see why people would call this "She-Ra in name only" except for them being salty that She-Ra isn't a double D anymore.

It has so much that made the original She-Ra great but it gives a modern spin to it.
She-Ra in the original was an instant wisecracking hero who got over her Horde life within a few eps.
It was fine for its time but you simply can't tell a story like that today with so much good animated competition. It will be cool to see her grow up and become the She-Ra we remember.

I really love the rebellion being led by the princesses and all of them using their traits/powers in a magical girl fashion - just without looking like eachother's clones.

Angella's wings being translucent is such a nice touch and the "evil horde" joke was great. My fave redesign is still Bow. He gives me such strong late 80s / early 90s vibes.

Don't know who'd think that anyway. Her name is She-Ra, not D-Ra. XD The other members of the rebellion look competent, showing off their skill and all. And Swift Wind...I need a toy of him.
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Post by: Baby Sugarberry on October 04, 2018, 08:10:23 PM
Trailer was good, I'm looking forward to checking out the series.
Those toys though... there's something *very* off about the proportions (no, not She-Ra's chest!), maybe it's the head to body ratio?  Catra and She-Ra don't look like they're from the same line to me.  The top of She-Ra's head is also weird looking being all flat and helmet-like.  No elbow or knee articulation makes for a mediocre action figure. Overall, 'meh'.
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Post by: ladybastilla on October 05, 2018, 05:37:06 AM
I am so hyped for this. I've watched the trailer at least six times now. :lol: Really want the toys, too, but I'll need to think about it with the two figures (She-Ra and Catra) being $70 USD for the pair. They're available for pre-order online and for me it's not just 'are the worth it?', but moreso 'can I fit them in my budget?' that is giving me pause.

I like the increased depth on the relationship between Adora and Catra. I like the fact that we do see some resistance from Glimmer when she and Adora meet. Bow's line was hilarious. As for She-Ra's identity not being a secret, this actually makes sense considering (far as I know) we're not getting Light Hope, Madam Razz or Cowl, who were essentially her secret keepers.

I also like what they've done with Hordak and Shadow Weaver. The new designs look fabulous. Plus, so many of the other characters who got shown in the trailer also look cool and / or have cool abilities or glimpses of interesting personalities shown. Really loving Mermista and Angela there.

The best I can really say is that this will definitely be trying to draw my attention away from NaNoWriMo next month. I'm going to want to get a head start early on if I want to finish my novel. :lol:
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Post by: Zapper on October 05, 2018, 05:53:25 AM
As for She-Ra's identity not being a secret, this actually makes sense considering (far as I know) we're not getting Light Hope, Madam Razz or Cowl, who were essentially her secret keepers.

I hope Light Hope doesn't appear. It weirded me out that She-Ra would talk and take orders from something that was kinda godlike and allknowing. He-Man just had the Sorceress.

I figure her transformation into She-Ra will be similar to the other princesses powers. She-Ra is her powered alias just like Mermista has the mermaid form.
Speaking of which... Mermista is kind of a bada$$ in this. I love her voice.
Even though I love the old series, some of the character voices were creepy and weird. So many of the good women sounded like ditzy  airheads and the evil women sounded like idiots (a Scorpia and Catra remix on repeat could be used to legit torture me). Shadow was the only evil one who sounded cool and they captured that perfectly for the new series.

Glimmer having a more prominent role is great. I swear in the old series she just existed to get kidnapped and she looked only 2 years younger than her mum.

Now let me cross my fingers again to get smokervoice Swiftwind and an appearance by Star Wars character Huntara.
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Post by: LadyMoondancer on October 05, 2018, 09:17:18 AM
Duuuude, that trailer was awesome!  I'm pumped!
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Post by: Galactica on October 05, 2018, 09:18:25 AM
Oh yeah I remember the old voices-  the false high squeeky breathy voices- what on earth were they thinking?

I guess they didn't bother me a ton as a 5 year old but now, wow.
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Post by: Icey on October 07, 2018, 07:43:43 AM
I believe the voice that draws her to the sword is Light Hope ;)
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on October 07, 2018, 06:52:21 PM
So they are making classic MotU toys too.
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on October 09, 2018, 02:09:28 PM
More tidbits of information on the plot revealed by the showrunner:

Spoiler
Apparently it's set 1000 years in the future - compared to the previous MOTU and POP series - with a new world grown over the remnants of ancient civilisations. The sword apparently comes from those ancient civilisations. Discovering the planet's past, Grayskull and the sword's origins is the red thread through the series, like a mystery.

Sounds good to me!
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Post by: Zapper on October 10, 2018, 06:11:16 AM
Quote from screenrant:
Spoiler
In addition to providing its target young audience with an important moral lesson about honesty, this trailer tackles two oddities from the original She-Ra backstory. First, it addresses how quickly and easily Princess Adora is able to win the trust of The Great Rebellion without any sign of contrition beyond an apology for everything she did as part of The Evil Horde. It also addresses just how Adora could have no idea that the group that raised her, which openly called itself The Evil Horde, might be a bit on the dodgy side. In the new series, The Horde is called The Evil Horde by everyone else and Adora is revealed to have had a sheltered upbringing far away from the commoners that The Evil Horde oppressed.

It sounds well thought out and I like how it will have an ongoing plot. Thats what I said about modern cartoons, you need more story nowadays. Not just the wish to sell toys.
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Post by: MLPLover77 on October 10, 2018, 04:54:53 PM
Hmm...I'll have to wait and see.  I usually don't wind up liking re-boots.  I'd love to see She-Ra toys again though!   :biggrin:
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Post by: Taffeta on October 11, 2018, 09:52:31 AM
I agree saying "in name only" is too harsh. The original She-ra barely even had a plot.

IMO, that is also kinda harsh. It had a plot. It had terrible voices, but it had a plot. The biggest issue with old Shera is the lack of attention given to the other characters and the focus on the annoying ones that were mostly not made, like Madam Razz and the broom - and also on Bow, who was like Rio from Jem only with fewer anger management issues. I hated Rio, Bow just irritated me from existing. My point being that at least Rio elicited a viewer emotion from me...

But Shadow Weaver was class.

*watches trailer. 3 seconds in Shadow Weaver appears*

Ok. I'm sold ;)

No, in all seriousness, series don't have to be identical to their past versions. They can evolve and change. I just think the original has to be respected for what it was and when it was. And basically, for fans of the older series, if the new doesn't appeal, just don't watch it. I don't watch FIM. Doesn't make me any less of a pony fan.

I have to admit the figures are disappointing to me simply because there's no brushable hair. But that's fine. I'll save money. Catra reminds me of something. It isn't Catra...but I like her character much more from this clip and I hope they end up building on that and making Catra more 3 dimensional.

But I kind of like where they're going with this. For me the reason the Jem film failed was because they abandoned all the key origin points of meaning in Jerrica's story before it even began and made it all more superficial and social-mediaish instead of actually having a purpose to her music beyond being famous. It looks like they haven't done that with SheRa. If it comes onto our netflix or whatever here, I'll probably watch it :) even though I don't really like the art style for a couple of the characters.

But in ten seconds Bow apparently has more personality than in the entire 80s series. So that's good...

And I see no Madame Razz.

Also a plus.


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Post by: Zapper on October 11, 2018, 12:44:06 PM
Catra reminds me of something.

A Thundercat maybe?
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Post by: banditpony on October 15, 2018, 05:43:30 AM
I've never seen the original one (all the characters looked too old to me ^^; ), but this new one looks really fun!
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on October 22, 2018, 04:48:29 AM
Another spoiler tidbit:

Spoiler
Bow has two dads

I love how they start to work sensitive subjects like this into a cartoon for both kids and adults. I honestly can't wait for this to be released!

Mind you: the spoilers come from interviews with the creators, but it's the studio that has the final say in stuff like this I'm sure. Still; Hyped!
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Post by: Zapper on October 22, 2018, 06:55:25 AM
Uh-oh... after that spoiler I need to make comment sections a taboo for me. I really don't care to find out how the comic book nerds will react to this.

But I wonder how many more parents we will see now. Technically they are all tweens so it would make sense for some of them to live at home. Not all can be orphans.
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Post by: Taffeta on October 22, 2018, 07:35:06 AM
Uh-oh... after that spoiler I need to make comment sections a taboo for me. I really don't care to find out how the comic book nerds will react to this.

But I wonder how many more parents we will see now. Technically they are all tweens so it would make sense for some of them to live at home. Not all can be orphans.

In a resistance situation under a horde dictatorship, I think a lot of them could...

And maybe a thundercat. Maybe a cross between thundercat and something from 90s anime. And not DBZ.
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Post by: SaraMari on October 22, 2018, 08:16:15 AM
A cross between a thundercat (perhaps in particular from 2011?) And Merle from Escaflowne haha
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Post by: Zapper on October 23, 2018, 11:18:21 AM
Uh-oh... after that spoiler I need to make comment sections a taboo for me. I really don't care to find out how the comic book nerds will react to this.

But I wonder how many more parents we will see now. Technically they are all tweens so it would make sense for some of them to live at home. Not all can be orphans.

In a resistance situation under a horde dictatorship, I think a lot of them could...

That would make sense but would also be really dark. Depending on the tone of the series.
I already sense this Hordac will be less comical and Shadow might be much more dangerous.

I recently watched Horde Prime on Vacation or what that episode is called :lol: It will be interesting to see if Horde Prime exists in this version or if Hordac is the No. 1
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Post by: Taffeta on October 24, 2018, 02:12:28 PM
I am all for Shadow Weaver being more dark and twisty even than she originally was. She was always my favourite character, largely because the figures I liked best barely had a cartoon outing and didn't have a ton of appearances. Toy-wise my favourite was Flutterina (Papillon as I called her...) so yeah. But I did love Shadow Weaver. I have one somewhere that someone made for me xD. So they can make her as dark and twisty and complex as they like.

Not so fussed about Horde Prime/Hordac but it seems like they're paying some attention to that backstory, so maybe it will be kept in reserve?

As I said before, I still have high hopes for Catra to be more 3 dimensional a character than she was in the original. And if she is, maybe Entrapta and the other one whose name I forget will not be so annoying either. Scorpia? Maybe that's her...?
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on October 25, 2018, 11:53:49 AM
I'm hoping for a twist where it is revealed that Shadow Weaver has been conspiring against Hordak behind the scenes, eventually overthrowing him to take control of the Evil Horde for a hidden agenda of her own.
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Post by: Taffeta on October 26, 2018, 01:04:53 PM
I'm hoping for a twist where it is revealed that Shadow Weaver has been conspiring against Hordak behind the scenes, eventually overthrowing him to take control of the Evil Horde for a hidden agenda of her own.

Yes please!
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on October 29, 2018, 10:09:57 AM
I'm hoping for a twist where it is revealed that Shadow Weaver has been conspiring against Hordak behind the scenes, eventually overthrowing him to take control of the Evil Horde for a hidden agenda of her own.

Yes please!

Right? He always did run off with her great suggestions in the old cartoon, leaving her frustrated with him. She should get her time to rule!

We are getting closer btw; two more weeks till the show drops!
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 08, 2018, 08:14:29 AM
The newer designs are awful on closer inspection. Its like they're edging closer into Cal-Arts territory.
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Post by: mlly on November 08, 2018, 12:36:08 PM
The more I see of this the less excited and optimistic I am to be honest...

While I am always for diverse body types I'm just not feeling the art style itself and most of the designs at all.. Something about the art style to me just lacks 'flair' idk..

With the story/writing- I am honestly super suuuper tired of Avatar/Voltron LD/Young Justice/Dragon Prince whatever etc.. type cartoons (and their bland art styles too)...

While I don't think the original cartoon was actually good its timely goofiness was part of it's charm and why it was fun to watch.

Prolly won't watch this anymore...

The newer designs are awful on closer inspection. Its like they're edging closer into Cal-Arts territory.

There is no such thing as 'Cal-Arts style'. The reason why so many cartoons today looks similar is the same reason the looked similar in previous decades - because it's the style that's currently trendy. I mean, the earliest usage of the term 'calarts style' was for The Iron Giant movie of all things...
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 08, 2018, 07:07:24 PM
https://youtu.be/t8fvxycRpBc

What the everliving...? I'm now convinced that these people have never seen a SINGLE episode in their entire existence. Swiftwind's name isn't ******* Horsie!

Plus She-Ra is an incompetent boob with that sword. This is the trained warrior that was supposed to get promoted to a higher rank in Hordak's army? Someone who trips over there own feet trying to swing a sword around?  Just leave that girl where she's at and wave buh-bye to Hordak's army in a couple of years.

I did better with a sword my first time. A couple of little kids with foam or plastic swords do better then this.

This makes Skyward Sword look competent in terms of swordplay.

What are the creators doing over there?
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Post by: Zapper on November 09, 2018, 07:39:08 AM
The newer designs are awful on closer inspection. Its like they're edging closer into Cal-Arts territory.

There is no such thing as 'Cal-Arts style'. The reason why so many cartoons today looks similar is the same reason the looked similar in previous decades - because it's the style that's currently trendy. I mean, the earliest usage of the term 'calarts style' was for The Iron Giant movie of all things...

Thank you. This argument is getting recycled all the time and it's so tiring. Art style trends have existed since art was first defined. You can dislike them or not but that's in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I hate the thick outline style of various older CN shows. And I hate Ren and Stimpy, whose creator was one of those who made "CalArts style!!!" popular. So let me just name them CN style and R&S style and now they are both bad. Spongebob Squarepants is R&S and therefore bad and unimaginative. All those CN shows are copies of each other because they all have the same CN style. Who can tell Deedee from Dexter apart from Powerpuff Girls? Awful.

And since we had this subject before... I want to remember anyone that Rick & Morty is literally CalArts but isn't shunned for it for some reason. So what is CalArts style supposed to be?

It's the same with "Mary Sue". A word that has lost all meaning because people started to apply it to anything they dislike. Because it's easier to just brand something.
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on November 09, 2018, 10:18:36 AM
I'm still okay with a lot of the story/character changes, but the lack of fluidity in the animation is dampening my enthusiasm I'm afraid - that's my main issue with what I've seen so far.
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Post by: mlly on November 10, 2018, 02:55:55 AM
I like Bow's and Angella's designs those 2 definitely look better than the originals, and the backgrounds are quite nice but that's pretty much all the positive I can currently say about this so far.
I just don't think I will like the writing/characterization with what they've currently shown.
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Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on November 10, 2018, 04:45:20 AM
Eek  :(. I couldn't keep myself from watching the entire season's early spoiler discussion that's currently on youtube... Oh my, no. Just no. The source is unconfirmed, but the spoilers fit right in with the tone of the show based on everything that has been officially revealed so far. It's a parody of the original - that's the best way to put it, I guess. Just look at the clip of Adora trying to activate the sword's magic  :huh: .... That is the comedic tone we can expect throughout the series.

Some of the unconfirmed spoilers:

Spoiler
- Light Hope is a computer projection (e.g. Jem's Synergy). Adora/She-Ra can't always follow the story exposition that Light Hope is providing, but LH doesn't pay attention to that and just continues to ramble on.

- The princesses are going to have a prom. I can't tell you more, because my brain stopped working upon learning this. How do you factor a prom into a show like She-Ra?

- Madam Razz is back - kind of... She is just a weird lady - no magic, nothing. And she has a geisha type fan that has the image of Lookie on it. She's portrayed as being kind of crazy, saying that she has two companions: her broom (a basic broom, not a live one), and Lookie - but Lookie loves to hide (because he's on a fan, get it..? 'Cause when you close the fan, he's gone...) Pffff

- Hordak is nothing more than a presence. Does nothing but sit around and say menacing things. Never a confrontation between Hordak and She-Ra.

- A lot of queerbaiting. Lots of mentioning the gay/bi orientation of characters, but nothing is actually fleshed out. Think LeFou in the live action Beauty and the Beast.

- The so-called legend of She-Ra goes back to a woman named Mara, who was booted from her role as warrior princess because she couldn't keep her personal life from interfering with her power princess responsibilities. So the powers behind the sword want Adora to part with her friends as well, to avoid a repeat of the past.

Again, none of this has been confirmed to be true. If it is, it will be an underwhelming experience for me. This is not quite what I was expecting, and I had a very open mind...

Three more days, and we'll know.

EDIT: DW approved reviews following the early screening are beginning to pop up, and I'm watching the first one right now. Will post my thoughts later on :)

EDIT 2: I'm two minutes into the second review, and I can already say that it all comes across as rather biased. Both of the reviewers start off by saying that they didn't really watch the original, to then go on and say how much better the new design of the characters is. Whereas the old show used the same body type over and over again for every female Rebellion member, this one has different body and skin types. Yes, I will give them that.
One of them did confess that - unlike with Voltron (which I've never watched, but the reviewer is an avid fan) - she can't binge watch the new She-Ra. Freely paraphrased "The new She-Ra is something fun to enjoy from ep to ep, spread out over time." People also seem to really like the voice acting; a lot of emotion is portrayed through the voice. I personally already got that from the clips, the voice actors are doing a fantastic job - my issue is that the emotion in the voice doesn't gel well with the wooden animation of the character though.
The first reviewer I watched said that She-Ra is much more conflicted in this new version about fighting her previous family - the Horde, compared to the old one. I can get this as well, but then I do wonder why she would have that impression if she didn't watch the original...
People loved the backgrounds. No surprise there. The BGs are great, but if anything, these awesome backgrounds put an emphasis on the limited animation of the foreground elements. And no one seems to point that out.
All in all, the reviewers are positive, encouraging the audience to watch the show...
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 10, 2018, 07:09:43 AM
That explains a lot actually.
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Post by: ladybastilla on November 11, 2018, 05:05:31 PM
The more I see, the more eager I am for Tuesday to get here. This is going to be fun. :)
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Post by: Dreamer on November 12, 2018, 02:04:32 PM
Unpopular opinion here, but I'm not really feeling Shadow Weaver's design. I like the wispy hair and the fact that apparently she walks on a lot of tiny spider legs (???) but her face... it looks like a Deadpool mask with a "nose", and those elf ears sticking out... not feeling it, not feeling it  >_<
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 12, 2018, 02:48:05 PM
Hordak's design is good. He looks more or less the same. Maybe a little more streamlined and sleek.
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Post by: ladybastilla on November 13, 2018, 09:17:56 AM
I have watched the first three episodes so far. Non-spoiler / first impression review is that I think they've done a fabulous job. Is it different than the original? Yes. But it's also fun and well put together in its own way Here are my thoughts. Warning: spoilers!

Spoiler
-- The horse they find in the preview clip gets turned into Swiftwind by the sword and does not transform back and forth.

-- There is a Cowl plush pillow in one of the Brightmoon guest rooms.

-- Madame Razz does make an appearance in episode 3 and the predictions from an earlier post are accurate.

-- So far, my favorite character is Bow.

-- Glimmer's powers are better explained than in the original.

-- The connection between Catra and Adora is youthful and intersting.
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Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on November 14, 2018, 12:12:59 PM
Just watched the first and second episodes. I didn't see the original series so I cannot comment on that, but I think they've got a really cool setup so far.
Spoiler
It sounds like Catra didn't have so much of a connection with Adora beforehand, and I think this gives more room for character tensison than simply just enemies.
Watching Adora learn about life outside the Fright Zone will be interesting to see as the series goes on. It was cute watching her enjoy herself. I find Glimmer a bit bothersome but I'm never a huge fan of stubborn characters,  regardless of how much I like/don't like her I think she and Bow (is it not Beau?) have an adorable dynamic. 
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Post by: heftysmurf76 on November 15, 2018, 10:46:36 AM
Die Hard She-Ra fan here! I absolutely LOVE this new series...very few things i DON'T like about it. I churned through all 13 episodes in 6 hours and want to rewatch them again very soon! LOVE Mermista's sassy dry attitude teh best , but the whole series is so well written and fun! I predict a massive hit for dreamworks with this!!!

Wanted to share my wall of PoP too, i got the button sets they gave out at NYCC from ebay, So pleased with my merch but I NEED MORE!!!!
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And you have to know I had my tiara and sword handy while watching the show!!
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 15, 2018, 04:32:22 PM
Congrats Hefty. I didn't know they were out. Nice to put a face to a name too.
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Post by: heftysmurf76 on November 15, 2018, 07:14:11 PM
Congrats Hefty. I didn't know they were out. Nice to put a face to a name too.
Awww Thanks! I was so glad I discovered teh buttons! They are really well made for freebies they passed out, so is teh tiara! the Sword is of ok material, but I'll preserve it well ;)
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Post by: ladybastilla on November 15, 2018, 08:40:19 PM
Yes, I've seen some YouTubers with the buttons and they look awesome. Congrats on getting a set of them for your collection. :) I'm up to episode 9 and Bow and Shadow Weaver and Catra are my favorites. Bow is just too cute for words, and I absolutely adore what they've done with the Horde in general. I find them much more intense and intimidating than in the original and they aren't always bumbling dummies for our heroes to outwit at every turn. The episode I'm watching right now has me biting my nails!

Also, not sure if it's Bow, Bo, or Beau, if I'm being honest. :)  That was a valid point, though.
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Post by: heftysmurf76 on November 15, 2018, 08:46:28 PM
Yes, I've seen some YouTubers with the buttons and they look awesome. Congrats on getting a set of them for your collection. :) I'm up to episode 9 and Bow and Shadow Weaver and Catra are my favorites. Bow is just too cute for words, and I absolutely adore what they've done with the Horde in general. I find them much more intense and intimidating than in the original and they aren't always bumbling dummies for our heroes to outwit at every turn. The episode I'm watching right now has me biting my nails!
Thanks! Yes it gets intense in teh last few episodes, from "the Princess Prom" on is action packed imo!
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Also, not sure if it's Bow, Bo, or Beau, if I'm being honest. :)  That was a valid point, though.
It's officially "Bow", teh original toy and teh toon named him as much :D
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Post by: STLGusty on November 17, 2018, 05:52:02 PM
I don't have Netflix, so I stalk this thread to read the spoilers lol.  :biggrin: I think it's an interesting spin on She-Ra overall.  The animation isn't necessarily my cup of tea, but I still want to watch anyway  :yikes:
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Post by: Icey on November 17, 2018, 07:17:25 PM
I was adamant I was not going to watch it or at the very least I would hate it if I did. I binge watched it over the past two nights and I didn't hate it. I still think the animation is kind of meh, and there are a lot more goofy parts than I personally would have liked, but the kids loved them. I like that She-Ra is vulnerable in this one. One of my favorite characters definitely has to be Catra. They did a really good job fleshing her out and making her relatable in this version. My other favorite is Queen Angela. She is beautifully drawn, the actress who played her did a great job and she was Motherly without being over bearing. I thought I was going to hate Glimmer and Bow would annoy me, but they were fine. Glimmer grew on me after a few episodes and I do not dislike her design as much as I originally disliked it. I do think it is sad that they basically wasted Netossa and Spinerella until the finale. Oh and I hate Swift Wind. Hate the way he was made (although it is kind of funny how they respond to him when they find out he can talk), hate his dialogue and I feel like he was not really well used however I can understand why they chose to go that route. That is more a personal pet peeve because I love the original. Also was not a fan of the redesign of Castaspella. My kids really enjoyed it. My son absolutely hated the theme song and asked me to skip it, but other than that they seemed to enjoy it. As much as I thought Sea Hawk was goofy they really liked him. I am glad I gave it a chance. It is not MY She-Ra, but it was still fun.
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Post by: Galactica on November 17, 2018, 10:11:11 PM
I’ve been watching and I love it! I think they’ve done a great job-
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Post by: LadyMoondancer on November 17, 2018, 10:50:12 PM
I didn't realize it was already out until one of my early-20s friends, who was completely unfamiliar with the original, posted "Oops, I stayed up until 2 AM watching She Ra.  Who I am cosplaying."  :P

Then I watched it myself.  I loved it!  I love how it focuses on Adora's struggles to grapple with her past as part of the Horde, which wasn't really a big part of the original series after the first five-parter, if I'm remembering correctly.  I absolutely love Catra (I'm SUCH a fan of her design, versus her being . . . a normal lady who dressed as a cat for some reason :P)  and I love her complex relationship with Adora.

I LOVE BOW.  He is so funny and charming, but without being just The Goofy Sidekick.  He just seems really . . . genuine?  I also love that he sports a bare midriff, in a homage to 80s Bow's design.  (The dude seriously wore nothing on top but a scanty breastplate.  Just . . . why.  LOL.)  And yeah, his name is Bow, not Beau.  Because he's an archer.  In the 80s he had a winged horse named Arrow. :P

I also love the new princess designs, especially the ice princess and the sea princess.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on November 18, 2018, 07:49:45 AM
I just finished watching the entire show, and I very much enjoyed it.

The first reactions and spoilers scared me a little, but the anger towards this new version is a little over the top IMO (*cough cough, Clownfish TV, cough*). I do get why some die-hard fans are so hard on this show, because it is drastically different in style and tone. But now that I've seen quite some reviews on it - and the actual show, I also get that a lot of people were apparently hoping for a near identical remake, or at least had a negative attitude towards it going in. The uber positive reviews may be biased, but the real negative ones are as well, I think.

My thoughts, and keep in mind, there are SPOILERS.

I'm just going to get the less good elements out of the way, because there really aren't that many.
- The animation. It is bulky and lacks fluidity. The angles are off at times. It all comes across as amateurish at times.
- The build-up. A lot of story elements are being hinted at ever so slightly, without enough foreshadowing to let you know that it does get deeper further down the line. The first half of the season didn't really entice me to stick around and learn more. I'm glad I did, but I had to force myself to continue the binge watch at one point. Because it does get good in the second half.

Some of the things I liked:
- Shadow Weaver! That chick is just a ticking time bomb, yet again being treated condescendingly by Hordak - and in front of Catra, no less. Let her have her revenge please :D
- The princesses: I enjoyed all of them; redesign and personality. Mermista, a mermaid with a dry sense of humor: love it. Bow is very upbeat - some might see him as annoying, but I enjoyed him as the best friend. Seahawk is not to be taken very seriously; he is a comic relief.
- Adora: Well written, struggling with her new found identity and her loyalty to Catra. Subject of jokes that sometimes fall flat, others times they work.
- Catra: easily the most intriguing character.
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Spoiler for Ep. 11 "Promise": I did not expect her to turn on Adora so drastically the way she did. The situation that solidifies the rift between Adora and Catra initially comes across as something that would bring them closer and potentially have Catra question her legiance to the Horde as well. Surprising moment there. Loved it.
- Entrapta: My favorite princess so far. She's socially off, definitely has autistic traits, but they work very well as a non-offensive comedic relief. She was so much fun to watch :D
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I was surprised by her joining the Horde! She's also very funny in the ep in which it happens - constantly casually breaking out of her cuffs to join in on Catra's and Scorpia's conversations, then freely putting them back on when Catra points it out. She's a nutty, delightful character!
- She-Ra mythos: Some fans apparently thoroughly hate this concept; I always thought it went without saying that the She-Ra power is an archetype that gets passed down from one person to another when necessary. I liked this part of the story, it allows for side stories, deepening the mythology. I'm definitely interested to learn more about Mara, who apparently broke down under the responsability of having been chosen.

There is so much more to say, but I'll leave it at this.

I think it's fair to say that anyone who goes in with an open mind, won't be (too much?) disappointed. And anyone who had an issue with everything that has been revealed through promotional information, probably won't be swayed by the full show.

As with any reboot, enjoying it comes down to how much are you willing to let go of your expectations and immerse yourself in the new universe.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Galactica on November 19, 2018, 12:33:27 PM
Yeah I had my doubts based on the various re-makes of SSC, Jem-

Plus I was not excited by the preview images-

But then I saw the show pop up on Netflix and started watching and... was very pleasantly surprised!

I like the effort at making all the characters less 2 dimensional than the original.

Of course I LOVED the original but I was 6 so... I did not need a lot of character development... the old show is a lot harder to watch as an adult, haha...

I hope they get a second season!!!!

I also hope the show is wildly popular (it seems to be pretty popular so far) and gets a different licensee for the dolls/toys, which are not really my cup of tea.

Specifically I wish Mattel would take back the license and do the toys, but I don't see that happening anytime soon so I guess I won't hold my breath. :(

Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: heftysmurf76 on November 19, 2018, 06:19:38 PM
I hope they get a second season!!!!
Season 2 is already in the works, they haven't officially announced it, but you can gather as much info from what teh creators etc have mentioned on various social media, etc...
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I also hope the show is wildly popular (it seems to be pretty popular so far) and gets a different licensee for the dolls/toys, which are not really my cup of tea.

Specifically I wish Mattel would take back the license and do the toys, but I don't see that happening anytime soon so I guess I won't hold my breath. :(


Mattel officially filed trademarks, etc for She-Ra/Adora, Bow and Glimmer... toys are in teh works and will likely be like DC Super hero girls from what I have gathered. I have seen specific links for all of this, but don't have them on hand, but essentially, its a slow burn for Mattel, who imo, haven't dropped the ball, but didn't exactly grab the bull by the horns either..
I'm glad folks seem to like it so much. I can hardly contain my enthusiasm for the show. Its in teh top 100 for imdb and is trending on lots of top 10 sites for TV shows.

I've stated it here and elsewhere but I can essentially tell that its already a runaway hit, despite some naysayers here or there (hey if its not for you, I understand,But you still have the original to enjoy ;) :D  ) I've seen videos of little girls singing teh theme song and jumping up and down while viewing, heard tell of kids begging for more episodes when its past bedtime, etc etc, and thats what warms my heart the most is that She-Ra is here for a new generation to love and enjoy!
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Zapper on November 20, 2018, 03:25:07 AM
Finally finished it.
It's so good! I think I found my new favorite animated series of the moment (sorry Tangled Adventures, still love ya).

It's a great re-imagening! Everyone is brimming with personality and humor is there.
Lots of ramblings under the spoiler cut:

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I loved how many callbacks it had to the original. But they were'nt in your face.
Like Seahawk punching the console in one scene looked exactly like that "guy punches" stock animation. I let out a shriek. Other PoP fans, can you confirm? It's when he frees Bow from his cell. That weird fluid punch and hand on the hip movement :lol:

If you compare these chars to the 80s ones... it's almost impossible because some characters did not even have a personality in the original. They just had abilities. Only a few got to have more traits, like Huntara. I NEED her to appear.

I also laughed when they acknowledged that She-Ra was "not like the She-Ras from the past". Nips any kind of "she is not 100% like the original, waahh!!!" argument in the bud.
She gets reincarnated. You could say... she gets rebooted once in a while :cool:

They even made the gemstones from the toyline important! "What does Netossa even do?" " NET TOSS. I toss nets?!?!?!"  :lol:
Swiftie being aware that they keep the horses in captivity and wanting to change it... now they need to introduce unicorn island with the human hating unicorn king XD I loved that ep.

It's a lovingly done series. I can't wait to get more seasons!
I had a little tear in my eye when that young Catra and Adora flashback happened. And what about that dance? Catra looking dapper in that tuc and Scorpia in an evening gown! Oh yeah.

Catra, Scorpia and Entrapta really are all so endearing. In the original they were just evil brutes. Well, Catra was also jealous and petty, which is still there. And they gave her a heartbreaking reason to be. Love her.


Post Merge: November 20, 2018, 03:40:03 AM

(...) what warms my heart the most is that She-Ra is here for a new generation to love and enjoy!

A M E N brother. Omg I have developped such a hatred for people,especially grown adults, who nitpicked this show to death starting from the very first screencap. There is constructive criticism and being wary of new things... and then there is gatekeeping and the wish to see certain things stay dead instead of getting a fresh new look for a new gen of children.

I hope She-Ra becomes its own thing and can finally step out of He-Man's shadow.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Taffeta on November 20, 2018, 04:04:19 AM
I have had a crazy couple of weeks with uni stuff so I haven't looked at it yet (not reading the thread properly in case of spoilers xD) but I believe it is on UK netflix. Maybe when things quiet down a bit and I don't have to read whole books before teaching a class I'll get to watch it. I'm looking forward to seeing what they have done...
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Zapper on November 20, 2018, 04:55:34 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing what they have done...

Not a real spoiler but I know you love Shadow Weaver so you can really look forward to her having lots of screentime and importance.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 20, 2018, 07:01:16 AM
Its not gate keeping if you dislike something. And fans don't have ultimate cosmic control of whether or not a reiteration will be made at all. As they are not in any way, shape or form in charge of any of the creative or financial processes.

Besides, I've seen some of those figures. They look cheap and poorly done. I've not seen Matel's offerings yet.

If they make a good looking Swift Wind, and some affordable repro toys I'll grab some. The adult collector ones they showed off were spectacular, but outta my price range unfortunately.

Its kinda strange saying that She-Ra has always been in He-Man's shadow, when they're literally tied to the same universe and both were very popular. As though she were a minor background character that needed her own story when she's had one all along and was a main character with her own shows.

Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: LadyMoondancer on November 20, 2018, 07:50:19 AM
A M E N brother. Omg I have developped such a hatred for people,especially grown adults, who nitpicked this show to death starting from the very first screencap. There is constructive criticism and being wary of new things... and then there is gatekeeping and the wish to see certain things stay dead instead of getting a fresh new look for a new gen of children.

Same.  I was watching a video game "review" of one of the Zelda games the other day and all this guy's complaints basically boiled down to . . . "It's not like the Zelda game I played when I was seven!  Things CHANGED!"

NO . . . really?  Things changed in the 30 years since you were a child?  Someone decided to try something different?  Truly that is shocking.  And to think no one consulted you, random angry geek.  How dare.  You sure showed them by making a whiny Youtube video.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Zapper on November 20, 2018, 08:26:53 AM
Its not gate keeping if you dislike something. And fans don't have ultimate cosmic control of whether or not a reiteration will be made at all.

I don't disagree with you on the first part.
I also feel like we had this convo a couple of times already. Dislike can come in many forms. Some people have been so gross about this show from the get-go and if you are not one of them then you don't need to feel addressed.

The second part... Fan feedback nowadays can change an entire show. Look at FiM. Anti-fans can also become so vocal that creators are getting fired or online critique falls out overly negative because antis click a "zero" button 1000 times an hour.

Not that this will happen to She-Ra because it is widely liked apparently.
I am just fed up with grownups getting so heated and angry over a reboot of something from their childhood they start insulting people, especially young people, who are into it.

I wonder how the Transformers fandom survived the "Trukk not Munky" times, how MLP fandom survived the "shadow years"... I am glad I was too young and uninvolved back then because people would have verbally ripped me to shreds on usenet.
It must be scary to be a kid on the internet in 2018 when some SheRa Brony... (She-bro?) suddenly comes for your She-Ra cred and tells you the thing you love is trash and you are trash for liking it :lol:
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Galactica on November 20, 2018, 08:36:28 AM
It seems to me that most of the negativity is coming from older folks (people my age 40 give or take 5 years) who ADMITTEDLY have not watched the show.

I'm glad it's popular notwithstanding the angry bronies and their dumb youtube rants.

I love that there is a good story, great characters, and actual character development! Reminds me of the Last Airbender series, which I really liked.

I loved original She-ra of course, I was six! But watching the vintage episodes as an adult-  wow, it is so very clear that the show was nothing more than a commercial.  And my god the voices...  OLD she-ra will always have a nostalgic place in my heart, but if I ever want to watch it I think it is still on Netflix somewhere...

I love that the new show is so watchable :D
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 20, 2018, 09:41:43 AM
Its not gate keeping if you dislike something. And fans don't have ultimate cosmic control of whether or not a reiteration will be made at all.

I don't disagree with you on the first part.
I also feel like we had this convo a couple of times already. Dislike can come in many forms. Some people have been so gross about this show from the get-go and if you are not one of them then you don't need to feel addressed.

The second part... Fan feedback nowadays can change an entire show. Look at FiM. Anti-fans can also become so vocal that creators are getting fired or online critique falls out overly negative because antis click a "zero" button 1000 times an hour.

Not that this will happen to She-Ra because it is widely liked apparently.
I am just fed up with grownups getting so heated and angry over a reboot of something from their childhood they start insulting people, especially young people, who are into it.

I wonder how the Transformers fandom survived the "Trukk not Munky" times, how MLP fandom survived the "shadow years"... I am glad I was too young and uninvolved back then because people would have verbally ripped me to shreds on usenet.
It must be scary to be a kid on the internet in 2018 when some SheRa Brony... (She-bro?) suddenly comes for your She-Ra cred and tells you the thing you love is trash and you are trash for liking it :lol:

If people like it thats fine. Its good that its doing well. I think maybe people in general are just burnt out on reboots,  because there is like maybe, 1 or 2 good reboots (ThunderCats 2011,  Duck Tales) for every 5 sucky ones. (Teen Titans Go, ThunderCats Roar, Mega Man Fully Charged TMNT: Rise of the Turtles, the Jem movie).

Every reboot these days is almost always met with leery or negative reactions. And whose fault is that? The cartoonists for pulling down their pants and taking a massive dump on it, more often then not, and telling us that we will like it. 

I will say in fairness that neither the fans, nor the creators are blameless when it comes to nastiness and drama online. Takes two to argue.


Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Galactica on November 20, 2018, 09:56:33 AM
A M E N brother. Omg I have developped such a hatred for people,especially grown adults, who nitpicked this show to death starting from the very first screencap. There is constructive criticism and being wary of new things... and then there is gatekeeping and the wish to see certain things stay dead instead of getting a fresh new look for a new gen of children.

Same.  I was watching a video game "review" of one of the Zelda games the other day and all this guy's complaints basically boiled down to . . . "It's not like the Zelda game I played when I was seven!  Things CHANGED!"

NO . . . really?  Things changed in the 30 years since you were a child?  Someone decided to try something different?  Truly that is shocking.  And to think no one consulted you, random angry geek.  How dare.  You sure showed them by making a whiny Youtube video.

Right?  And maybe not this guy, but some of these guys get pretty scary. Super focused and hateful- they get on these missions to bring people down-  whether it is a cartoonist or writer for a kid's show, or an actress they don't like, or even someone in government.

I have a co-worker who got involved in city counsel because she wanted to help change things, and of course there are hot-button issues that people get passionate above- in Seattle (as you know) it is the issue of what to do with homeless people and encampments...  because of her participation, she has been targeted, doxed, and threatened personally- and her family has been threatened too!  It used to be that kids were off limits- but no more.

It isn't hard to see how this internet culture of anonymous complaining-turned-bullying has shaped our country (and probably others) in the worst way...  I only hope that more people wake up enough to fight back in time...

Sometimes I look around and think we must be on that alternate track of reality where Sam (Quantum Leap) didn't save the day...
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 20, 2018, 10:01:58 AM
A M E N brother. Omg I have developped such a hatred for people,especially grown adults, who nitpicked this show to death starting from the very first screencap. There is constructive criticism and being wary of new things... and then there is gatekeeping and the wish to see certain things stay dead instead of getting a fresh new look for a new gen of children.

Same.  I was watching a video game "review" of one of the Zelda games the other day and all this guy's complaints basically boiled down to . . . "It's not like the Zelda game I played when I was seven!  Things CHANGED!"

NO . . . really?  Things changed in the 30 years since you were a child?  Someone decided to try something different?  Truly that is shocking.  And to think no one consulted you, random angry geek.  How dare.  You sure showed them by making a whiny Youtube video.

Right?  And maybe not this guy, but some of these guys get pretty scary. Super focused and hateful- they get on these missions to bring people down-  whether it is a cartoonist or writer for a kid's show, or an actress they don't like, or even someone in government.

I have a co-worker who got involved in city counsel because she wanted to help change things, and of course there are hot-button issues that people get passionate above- in Seattle (as you know) it is the issue of what to do with homeless people and encampments...  because of her participation, she has been targeted, doxed, and threatened personally- and her family has been threatened too!  It used to be that kids were off limits- but no more.

It isn't hard to see how this internet culture of anonymous complaining-turned-bullying has shaped our country (and probably others) in the worst way...  I only hope that more people wake up enough to fight back in time...

Sometimes I look around and think we must be on that alternate track of reality where Sam (Quantum Leap) didn't save the day...

That kinda behavior is never right. If there's one thing that's consistent, its that humanity is full of psychotic buttholes.  :pout:
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: heftysmurf76 on November 20, 2018, 10:03:47 AM
Finally finished it.
It's so good! I think I found my new favorite animated series of the moment (sorry Tangled Adventures, still love ya).
I miss Tangled already, wish they would stop changing the title of teh show, makes me scared my DVR will miss it again!
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It's a lovingly done series. I can't wait to get more seasons!
I agree, a lot of attention to the old series and teh comics and even mini comics was paid. this to me is an acknowledgement to teh fans...

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A M E N brother. Omg I have developped such a hatred for people,especially grown adults, who nitpicked this show to death starting from the very first screencap. There is constructive criticism and being wary of new things... and then there is gatekeeping and the wish to see certain things stay dead instead of getting a fresh new look for a new gen of children.
I'm trying so hard NOT to hate these people who have such vitriol and disdain for something that more than half the time they haven't even taken the time to actualy watch. I just don't understand all teh energy put into hating something? Its a hard concept for me to grasp, closest thing I can think is my disliek of the new Thundercats Roar series, I dont hate it but if I did its not something I would spend more than 5 minutes on, I move on with my life. I mean I HATE football, so I don't even waste time knowinng teams or watching or paying any mind to sports news. Why folks invest any of their tie in something they don't liek is beyond me...

Besides, I've seen some of those figures. They look cheap and poorly done. I've not seen Matel's offerings yet.
Are you talking about the 2 figures Super7 released? if so I agree with you, otehrwise there haven't been any otehr releases in regards to toys..


Same.  I was watching a video game "review" of one of the Zelda games the other day and all this guy's complaints basically boiled down to . . . "It's not like the Zelda game I played when I was seven!  Things CHANGED!"

NO . . . really?  Things changed in the 30 years since you were a child?  Someone decided to try something different?  Truly that is shocking.  And to think no one consulted you, random angry geek.  How dare.  You sure showed them by making a whiny Youtube video.
E X A C T L Y!!! Change is so hard for some people, heck its hard for me, but its a part of life and hwo we adjust to it is a decree of our character imo...
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 20, 2018, 10:08:43 AM
@hefty. Yup, those are the ones I'm talking about.


People were showing off great MOTU figures, but they were more for adult collectors, as they are a little pricier and seem nicely made.

Dunno what company is doing them though.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: mlly on November 21, 2018, 07:47:34 AM
Its not gate keeping if you dislike something. And fans don't have ultimate cosmic control of whether or not a reiteration will be made at all.

I don't disagree with you on the first part.
I also feel like we had this convo a couple of times already. Dislike can come in many forms. Some people have been so gross about this show from the get-go and if you are not one of them then you don't need to feel addressed.

The second part... Fan feedback nowadays can change an entire show. Look at FiM. Anti-fans can also become so vocal that creators are getting fired or online critique falls out overly negative because antis click a "zero" button 1000 times an hour.

Not that this will happen to She-Ra because it is widely liked apparently.
I am just fed up with grownups getting so heated and angry over a reboot of something from their childhood they start insulting people, especially young people, who are into it.

I wonder how the Transformers fandom survived the "Trukk not Munky" times, how MLP fandom survived the "shadow years"... I am glad I was too young and uninvolved back then because people would have verbally ripped me to shreds on usenet.
It must be scary to be a kid on the internet in 2018 when some SheRa Brony... (She-bro?) suddenly comes for your She-Ra cred and tells you the thing you love is trash and you are trash for liking it :lol:

If people like it thats fine. Its good that its doing well. I think maybe people in general are just burnt out on reboots,  because there is like maybe, 1 or 2 good reboots (ThunderCats 2011,  Duck Tales) for every 5 sucky ones. (Teen Titans Go, ThunderCats Roar, Mega Man Fully Charged TMNT: Rise of the Turtles, the Jem movie).

Every reboot these days is almost always met with leery or negative reactions. And whose fault is that? The cartoonists for pulling down their pants and taking a massive dump on it, more often then not, and telling us that we will like it. 

I will say in fairness that neither the fans, nor the creators are blameless when it comes to nastiness and drama online. Takes two to argue.

Rise of the TMNT is good though. While Thundercats 2011 had good animation the writing was kinda bland and cliched, and even ROTTMNT's dynamic stylized animation blows TC2011's generic wannabe anime out of the water too if you ask me. I wouldn't compare the recent TMNT to other reboots because TMNT, like Transformers, gets a new iteration every few years or soon after the latest one ends, unlike those other franchises that have not been touched for a long while until they rode the recent reboot trend.

(Sorry mods for getting off-topic)
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Taffeta on November 21, 2018, 01:35:39 PM
I have watched a few episodes now.

I am not huge on the art style of this version so I don't really like the design of any of the characters so far. Except maybe Swiftwind. But the story is working out for me so far. I'll keep watching.

Also @ Zapper - I am not sure how I feel about Shadow Weaver's voice yet. I think she might be interesting going forward though, fingers crossed.

In terms of the other point, I think it's not about liking or disliking or expressing like or dislike. If someone dislikes it they can say so. I think it's more about where the line is drawn between respecting other people's preference on things. It reminds me of the year and a half of factional backbiting that went on over the Jem movie on one of the community's oldest lists (which since died, I am sure the movie stuff killed it because so many people left).
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Ponyfan on November 21, 2018, 05:02:38 PM
I’ve never seen the original She Ra series bout I’m willing to give this new version a chance. I want to watch a couple episodes of the original series also.


Ponyfan
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: CloudyGlow on November 24, 2018, 12:13:04 AM
I finished watching all the episodes. I really like it. I love the princesses and the magic. It's pretty, positive, and fun. But also emotional. I'm compelled by Catra and Adora's relationship for example. This is what good cartoons should do. It's so magical.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: DreamvalleyMLP on November 26, 2018, 10:30:15 AM
Mattel to revive the old style She-Ra as well, in book format:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/11/24/masters-of-the-universe-she-ra-golden-books-2019/ (https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/11/24/masters-of-the-universe-she-ra-golden-books-2019/)

Who knows, maybe those truly awesome HQ dolls they showed at SDCC (or was it PowerCon?) will become mainstream toys? Scaled down versions of those dolls would be a hit I think.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Leave a Whisper on November 26, 2018, 10:33:10 AM
Neat! I didn't know matel owned golden books?
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: LadyMoondancer on November 27, 2018, 08:10:57 AM
I don't think Mattel owns Golden Books, but Golden Books does make books of a lot of licensed characters. :)  I've seen some MLP FIM ones that had a really cute art style (not just screencaps of the show, which I've always thought is lazy for a book.)
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Skeen on November 29, 2018, 01:45:26 PM
I binged last weekend.  At first, and as the messages to Aadra310 will corroborate, I was not impressed.  I disliked the style, the age reset, EVERYTHING about Catra, that Glimmer looks like a nine year old, that Bow was a geek, etc.  But by the third episode all that changed.  Well, I still don't really like the animation and that Glimmer still looks like a child, but everything else did a complete 180!  (Entrapta is best character) (Also Scorpia)

EDIT: (Also Sea Hawk)
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: ladybastilla on November 29, 2018, 10:30:13 PM
Scorpia is probably my favorite princess. I love what they did with her. Her personality and design are unique and fun for a 'bad guy'. She is capable of being competent, yet we also get a certain level of vulnerability from her character that contrasts her appearance and what one would 'think' she is going to be like in interesting ways. Plus, she looked fab in Princess Prom and her vehicle in that episode was quirky and fun.
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Galactica on November 30, 2018, 09:36:09 AM
I love Scorpia and how sweet she is and enamored of Catra :)

Catra is a seriously flawed character, but I like that too, so much better than "Good turned bad just waiting for the right moment to prove her heart is true" -  when she did that thing to Adora...  you know that she is more than just a good guy waiting to be redeemed.

I like that Entrapta and Bow are such geeks too-   I didn't hear the part about Bow having 2 dads though, maybe that will be next season?

Given the marketing that is ramping up, and the extreme popularity/success of the show thus far, I have to assume that we will get another season or 3 :D
Title: Re: Meet your new Princess - Update: TOYS & TRAILER
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on December 09, 2018, 11:10:41 PM
I watched all the currently available episodes in one sitting.  On the whole, I'm quite happy with how the series was handled.  I think my only real complaint is that there are some very obvious animation errors and miscolors in certain frames, and some of the infills look wonky.  Pretty minor on the whole.  And maybe I'm still not sold on Swiftwind's new incarnation but we'll see - he didn't exactly get a lot of speaking lines until the last couple of episodes.

The character depth and development is great, everyone is pretty relatable and unique enough to stand out without being overbearingly annoying.  I wouldn't mind seeing one or two more male characters with speaking parts.  I really enjoy the tension between Adora and Catra.  Having grown up together and being best friends, practically siblings, gives Adora a very good reason to not just smite her nemesis outright which was sorely lacking in the original series.  I love Entrapta, I think she's my favourite out of all of them. 
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